Hello,
I am new here and also will try to run Home Assistant in my laptop. Any advice about installing on a MacBook Air will ne appreciated as I am not 100% sure that is possible and will work for all kind of Zigbee devices I aplan to install. Thamks-
#Home Assistant for MackBook Air
twin gate
eager axle
For Zigbee see the #zigbee-archived channel and the pinned messages there
Your MacBook will need to run HAOS in a VM
twin gate
Your MacBook will need to run HAOS in a VM
Thank you for your quick reply. I saw this tutorial and it seems quite straightforward https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBWYaQ64Q18However I am not sure how to get the Home Assitant URL as requested...2:07
twin gate
Yes, that is correct - sorry for not being clearer on that. I believe that is all I need to control the Zigbee devices by now.
eager axle
No, you need Home Assistant
The companion app is just another way of interacting with HA itself, and has sensors that tell HA about the device (things like battery level)
drifting marten
Yes, that is correct - sorry for not being clearer on that. I believe that is al...
you need actual HA using anyone of these methods https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/
best is HAOS running on Rpi4 or homeassistnat yellow
twin gate
The companion app is just another way of interacting with HA itself, and has sen...
I see. Thanks for the clarification.
Do you see any advantage of using a virtual machine instead of your pc (in the case of installing HA for example on Windows 10)?
drifting marten
slim bay
is it a new M1 Air or an old Intel one?
twin gate
is it a new M1 Air or an old Intel one?
My laptop is a MacBook Air M1 2020
twin gate
yeah, no problem then, I would install Docker and run the HA container
Great! Thank you for this information and the link. I will definitely try it.
Just one more thing, would it be even better using a raspberry-pi? why? I actually do not plan to buy one but forcuriosity.
slim bay
HA provides a full system image for running on a RPi, so it would be easier setting it up and maintaining it
otherwise a RPi is just another PC, you don't gain anything substantial
drifting marten
HA provides a full system image for running on a RPi, so it would be easier sett...
don't you count, 4 USb type A ports something substantial ?
slim bay
um no, that's absolutely irrelevant?
unless I'm missing your point here
are we comparing the Mac with a RPi?
eager axle
yeah, no problem then, I would install Docker and run the HA container
That's not supported
Docker on Mac is nerfed
drifting marten
no you can use zigbee sticks, ADB-S radios etc etc
eager axle
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/macos lists two options, neither of which is Docker on Mac
drifting marten
are we comparing the Mac with a RPi?
for running HA
slim bay
you're saying Docker on macOS can't access hardware devices?
if that's the case, I stand corrected
eager axle
The problem is the networking stack is incomplete
drifting marten
instead of hassle of working in a virtual environment you have "normal" access to HA on rpi
drifting marten
run Linux in vbox and install docker there 😉
slim bay
which is what Docker could be doing too
drifting marten
box in box in a box
slim bay
at least it would work just fine
- portable to any other machine
(except M1 Macs heh heh)
drifting marten
Conbee stick I was trying to mention before
eager axle
CC2652 based is worlds better than Conbee
Even better, buy a network connected one and save yourself the pain of USB passthrough
slim bay
SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus,TI CC2652P + CP2102N Zigbee USB-Stick
eager axle
And there growing reports of issues with those
drifting marten
why this hassle when you can do away with a simple 2Gb rpi4 and 32GB sd card exclusive for JA
eager axle
Sonoff's hardware generally seems to be suspect
slim bay
good luck finding a RPi 4 to buy
drifting marten
follow Jeff Geerling for the stocks
slim bay
drifting marten
For running HA it's ... ok, maybe
but HA yellow is based on rpi
drifting marten
Doesn't make it an awesome choice
what is recommended choice?
eager axle
Something 64 bit, with at least 2 cores and 2 GB of RAM
Like about any second hand system from the last decade
I run HA on an 8 or 9 year old i5 laptop. It outperforms any Pi by an insane amount, and yet is still quiet and low power
drifting marten
Like about any second hand system from the last decade
I do have old laptop lying around, easily available in market too, but does it consume same energy as rpi4?
eager axle
Tiny bit more, but you get more as a result
slim bay
just make sure you turn off the screen lol
eager axle
Pi4 is, what, 6W ish at peak
My laptop is about 10W at peak
drifting marten
Tiny bit more, but you get more as a result
yes more if you are running more heavy task such as frigate etc
slim bay
I have an old Air I'm using as a TTS announcer, it idles about 10W too
drifting marten
Pi4 is, what, 6W ish at peak
My laptop is about 10W at peak
xps 15 tops 40W average
slim bay
I tried a MacBook Pro with the screen full on running the photo screensaver, that was going ~35W
drifting marten
what installation method to use on old pc?
slim bay
for home stuff I run a Lenovo ThinkCentre i5/8GB, $100ish, 35kWh
eager axle
what installation method to use on old pc?
Whatever you want - HAOS or Container
drifting marten
CC2652 based is worlds better than Conbee
any particular brand or stick?
eager axle
See the pinned messages in #zigbee-archived
drifting marten
Whatever you want - HAOS or Container
how do install HAOS on a old windows machine?
slim bay
I have a Slaesh's CC2652RB stick and it's alright, nothing to complain about
drifting marten
need one in Pakistan
eager axle
how do install HAOS on a old windows machine?
drifting marten
https://www.daraz.pk/ is one such store
eager axle
The #installation-archived channel can guide you further on installs if you need help
slim bay
you can run Proxmox on the old machine and have one VM with HAOS
drifting marten
can buy from aliexpress but that takes too long and can go MIA
eager axle
This thread has been well hijacked
slim bay
🤷♂️
drifting marten
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