#Hallo there! I have a tuya multi-mode

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hazy bone
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Are you using Home Assistant's ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT with that?

glad oriole
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I am a newbie

hazy bone
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That doesn't answer the question

glad oriole
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i've only tried with the android software that was advised

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tuya

hazy bone
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Then... you know this isn't Tuya support?

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That's what this server is about

glad oriole
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i don't even know what home assistant is

hazy bone
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Then you're very lost ๐Ÿ˜‰

glad oriole
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I sure am

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Hereby the newbie

hazy bone
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Click the link, read up on it, but we can't help you with Tuya's own hub

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Tuya can, hopefully

glad oriole
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I see

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So this is a software that runs on raspberry pie?

hazy bone
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Or other computer hardware

glad oriole
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Nice

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Can I control ikea lights as well?

hazy bone
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Plug in a Zigbee coordinator and then you can interact with almost any Zigbee device on the planet

glad oriole
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Mhhh

hazy bone
glad oriole
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What is the best bang for the back for coordinators?

hazy bone
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Well... that's kinda down to whether you use ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT, and what your budget is

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Plus whether you want a USB connected one, or a network (eg PoE) connected one

glad oriole
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I have ikea stuff and tuya

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Does it matter?

hazy bone
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Nope

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My own setup has Tuya, ikea, hue, innr, gledopto, xiaomi, and more

glad oriole
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How do I make my choice for the ZHA vs Zigbee2MQTT?

hazy bone
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Most people's setups have a wide range of brands

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ZHA is part of Home Assistant, no other software requred

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Zigbee2MQTT is external

topaz tuskBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and as of 1.35.0 now has opportunistic support similar to ZHA. This change has simplified adding support for new devices.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

glad oriole
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thanks

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Gotta get to dinner

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But I'll take a look!

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Just out of curiosity

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What was your choice?

hazy bone
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There's few wrong choices here... I've got a CC2652 based Zig-A-Zig-Ah!

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The only bad choices are the Sonoff P and the ConBee/RaspBee 1 and 2

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(and anything CC253x based)

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With ZHA buy something current generation EZSP based

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With Zigbee2MQTT buy something CC2652p7 based

glad oriole
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Mhhh

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What would you get if you were to start from scratch?

hazy bone
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Maybe they'll be ok, maybe they'll be crap

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You tend to get what you pay for

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Buy cheap, buy twice
Buy Tuya, buy thrice