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tawny adder
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Ok, so what integration are you using?

little swiftBOT
tawny adder
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That one?

vernal spoke
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yes, but not sure Ive set it up right with them having so many different accounts! Just lookig at the link you sent now to go through it again to see if I have missed things as I know I set things up with Tuya just not sure I followed any instructions correctly as I tend to guess first then figure the hard way later they wont work like now! thaanks you! will go though and see as well as automations to learn your showing me rather than guess! 🙂

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I ve also just maaanged to put up a wall heater that is Home assistant friendly I think too but Too much fo rme to do all of it until I learn the basics!

tawny adder
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Well... Tuya... you're getting what you paid for it

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Which is to say, buy cheap crap, get cheap crap

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Using one of the many local Tuya integrations instead should speed up the behaviour, since that'll remove the cloud

vernal spoke
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the other issues I have I have no light on the top stairs until I get this up and running again as the switch does not feed upstairs power to the switch the people who did it before neevr wired it up the right ways and its made things hard or Ive made things hard by teh way I do things! 🙂

tawny adder
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If you want speedy Zigbee devices you also want to move all the Zigbee devices to ZHA - #zigbee-archived can guide you there

vernal spoke
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iv not bought tit down to price! I bought things as I thought taht where good but now I have had chance to learn more I think help to do things differeent might thelp but hard to just swop over thats my issues! Id change tomorrow if I could do it tomorrow but Im cant! So Im learning from you to try to come away from there servers to have it at home! then no server stops my setup

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if I have somthing now in fron tof me to throw the sensors in the bin they be in it 🙂

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i have lots of different things thats the issues and all the tecnologies come from different places so I have to try to get them all in Home assistant as well!

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Alexa, Apple, Google alll of them!

tawny adder
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Well, all the Zigbee stuff can be ripped away from their hubs and handled directly

vernal spoke
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that will be great but I have not got the parts to do it in the UK!

tawny adder
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Zigbee coordinators aren't expensive, you can certainly buy them in the UK

vernal spoke
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if also like a raspberry 4 to do it all on give me time to swop it over them and also a backup if one fails!

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I was looking when you mentioned it before but they where out of stock and now again Ive forgot what I was going to get and try

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if stairs was ok i would not be as bothered but no good when no lights on stairs! 🙂

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i can ask google or alexa for the time being though

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hard when you are half asleep at night going hypo to ask google 🤣

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why other things help!

vernal spoke
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you say Tuya is cheap yet me to buy cheap Zigbe devices im confused 🙂

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Tuya devices are more expensive!

tawny adder
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There's a difference between cheap and low cost

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Tuya is a provider of firmware and cloud services. Others make their hardware (or use a design from Tuya) and slap on the firmware.

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A lot of the hardware is made to minimal costs, with corners cut as much as possible. Some isn't, some is actually decent, but ... the WiFi stuff particularly tends to be cheap and nasty

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There are other brands that are known to be problems - Osram's Zigbee 1.2 range, Sonoff's battery powered sensors (and smart plugs), and more

vernal spoke
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its liek the same old story of the bluetooth devices you get good makes and bad makes and you have to try to track them own but this is a nightmare as there is millions of devices

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ELECTROLAMA as sold out on there devices every time I look

tawny adder
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Well, yes, but the problem brands are well known

vernal spoke
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id be dead time I go ta replacment!

tawny adder
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Good news... you can import stuff from outside the UK

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Most of my smart devices were imported

vernal spoke
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yes see my bill from china £58 for nothing!

tawny adder
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I've never been charged for anything that AliExpress failed to deliver

vernal spoke
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so thsi says stop buying from outside the uk no time for it

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casing me more issues than good

tawny adder
vernal spoke
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the £58 was to just get the import into the country and Im excempt from that but still get the hassels of it all!

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small print do not wash over me!

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if Im to buy somthing I need it to work yes I can understand things get better but I still rather have somthing thats I can trust and be safe with

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even i fits cost more that is fine but it needs to be a good product liek a good bluetooth connection or like my linky router is still better than we have now and that i do not use due to it all changing but I could get a greater distance over wifi with it!

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I had one of these aat the satrt and they where rubbish! SONOFF Universal Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle E Gateway with Antenna for Home Assistant, Open HAB etc, Support Data Flow Control

tawny adder
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There's nothing wrong with them

vernal spoke
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nothing would work with tehm

tawny adder
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There's usually a lot wrong with what you do with them

vernal spoke
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maybe

tawny adder
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No maybe, it's a certainty 😉

vernal spoke
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i was not using home assitant at the start wwhen I go tone

tawny adder
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The common problems apply no matter what

vernal spoke
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it was the distances! Im in a very hard propety! Very tight and tight crner no open spaces

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so I have had to do a lot to mesh it around me

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so using one of these do teh tuya ones still work on the system and voice liek it is now

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on a SONOFF Universal Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle E Gateway with Antenna for Home Assistant, Open HAB etc, Support Data Flow Control

tawny adder
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If you connect Home Assistant to Google Assistant/Alexa, then anything in HA can be controlled by voice

vernal spoke
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ok so that parts done by me I think not totaly sure as its all in one at mo

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i trust smartlife more than anythign really

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but it has its issues!

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yes I know im laughing too 🙂

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why my setups hard is one things says its working but another things is not how its suppose to look in Home Assistant settings with things liek config under it when you have configured it

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this is google Nest setup im talking about

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as an e.g

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I will buy a SONOFF Universal Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle E Gateway with Antenna for Home Assistant, Open HAB etc, Support Data Flow Control for you!

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but chances are I will not like it! but we can only try again! 🙂

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can it run an electric shower I need one 🙂

tawny adder
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I don't think that's likely

vernal spoke
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the big issues I have i sthe best location for these devices in on my stairs! But the stairs as only 2 usb sockets but another medical device tahts is great takes both the usb slots due to it width design. I have no other means of getting usb on the stairs at mo bu tmaybe able too now I installed a electric wall heater google and Alexa which looks great

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had to bring power in from the Attic

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why not a shower? can I not use Shellyu devices?

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then have google and alexa in the shower singing to me 🤣

tawny adder
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The coordinator - stick - connects into your HA server, not some random USB point

vernal spoke
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while I ask it my blood reading to see im not going to have a hypo

tawny adder
vernal spoke
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Ha server I dont have

tawny adder
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The Zigbee dongle does ZIGBEE

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You are at least planning on using Home Assistant?

vernal spoke
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yes I want to try to get everything into it

tawny adder
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Ok, you can do that in stages

vernal spoke
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best way stages for me!

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🙂

tawny adder
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Also

BENEXMART Tuya Zigbee Hub PIR Sensor and I'm finding them to be also very slow at turning lights on
That suggested you were already using Home Assistant

vernal spoke
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what do i need to buy first

tawny adder
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Nobody here can help you with Tuya's cloud shit, and if you don't tell people that's what you're doing then it's just going to frustrate everybody

vernal spoke
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yes they are slow aand somtines dont work you have to keep rebooting there device very annoying

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ok when they work but not reliable! BENEXMART Tuya Zigbee Hub PIR Sensor

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so I got the Aquara sensors and tehy are not very good either

tawny adder
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Well, again

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we can't help unless you're using Home Assistant

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Your experiences with other platforms are utterly irrelevant to HA

vernal spoke
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why I want to use Home Assistant to have devices that will work and do the things to help me

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at hoem and not on a server

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at home

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not on some else server

tawny adder
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Right, but all you've done is complain about the problems you're having... and not being honest enough to admit that your problems have nothing do with HA

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Trying to fix problems that don't exist is just a waste of time

vernal spoke
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not about home assitant the problems Im talkign about what Ive to get around here!

tawny adder
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Well... I'm done with this until you're actually using HA

vernal spoke
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im not slaggin ghome assistant!

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and how can I use Home assitant until I knwo what Im doing

tawny adder
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How are you going to know what you're doing until you start trying?

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Install HA, learn how to use it ... that's how it works

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That's how it works for everybody

vernal spoke
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Only to get a SONOFF Universal Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle E Gateway with Antenna for Home Assistant, Open HAB etc, Support Data Flow Control which Im going to do!

tawny adder
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Well, also get Home Assistant, or that's a pretty fucking useless paperweight

vernal spoke
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I have home Assistant! But not as you want me to have it so I have to also get a Raspberry Pi 4 and install Home Assitant again! ok?

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clean start

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or do I need anything else smart ponder

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when I started this I was just seeing what I might be able to do and was not expecting to get so many things running from a Raspberry pi 3 so yes now Im very impressed! So I went out and tried to buy a Yellow only for it not to work so maybe its just my luck

vernal spoke
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I already have Tuya App installed into HA and also have already setup a HA so not sure what you are on about with that comment?

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I just dont have the sensors showing up from the Smartlife to HA and wondering why

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so its a long way arounf to do what your asking for some sensors!

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sorry they are showing up just found them in Tuya instead of the BTHome which I was in looking for them!

vernal spoke
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make a little more sense now on coordinator but still confused my my setup what to do! Has I dont think I need a router though I may do with these device. Do i need to have both router version and coordinator version to start off with or can I use coordinator from each router I have already setup I have a two RT-AX82U routers

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i read about where it says on when to flash it! with your link thank yoU!

vernal spoke
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is it possible to get a MOES Tuya ZigBee Smart Touch Switch, Requires Tuya ZigBee Hub, No Neutral Wire No Capacitor Needed, also Works with L & N wire, Compatible with Smart Life Tuya App Alexa Google Home, 2 Gang, White into HA? or will I be better re wiring in a Yagusmart WiFi Smart Wall Light Switch, No Neutral Wire Required, No Hub Required, Compatible with Alexa and Google Home, APP Remote Control, Timing Function, Voice Control(3 Gang-Black)? then I will know if the SONOFF Universal Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle E Gateway with Antenna for Home Assistant, Open HAB etc, Support Data Flow Control i sany use to me! (edited)

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i get one switch in ok in Has with no issues but its only a 1 switch the one downstairs is a two switch and at the time had a very bad signal to get anythign to it I sorted that out with two new routers but I installed a different switch into it being a double one. Im totaly confused on it wiring from original now! So I was thinking maybe have another go at the same kind of switch i have had no issues with and attempt putting in the Capitor in ceiling rose. as this MOES Tuya ZigBee Smart seems to not work like a normal switch does with smart bulms in them too this means the switch needs to be on all of the time or is there other easier ways you might know?

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or wait to see if this SONOFF Universal Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle E will get it into HA?