Tuya device integration with HA | Home Assistant | Page 1

dark sigil Jul 12, 2023, 5:19 PM

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You keep posting and ignoring the replies, maybe this'll help

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every time the switch auto turns off
What does that ?
the Motion sensor seem to sometimes not work at Sunset
How does it work? An automation? Something else?

ebon sierra Jul 12, 2023, 5:23 PM

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seems to be around 10 sec or 11 after i turn the light off in Smartlife as im testing in here first to then add to home assistant. Ive made a lot of changes today so no clue what will happen tonight after Sunset for me!

dark sigil Jul 12, 2023, 5:24 PM

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Well... if you've not added them to Home Assistant then ... nobody here can help you

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It's a SmartLife problem

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Disable all the shit in SmartLife, add them to HA, use HA for control

ebon sierra Jul 12, 2023, 5:25 PM

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I cannot test from switch at the same time! Has really I do not want to use the switch at all

dark sigil Jul 12, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Disable all the shit in SmartLife, add them to HA, use HA for control

ebon sierra Jul 12, 2023, 5:25 PM

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they are added!

dark sigil Jul 12, 2023, 5:26 PM

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Then disable all the SmartLife logic

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Write some automations in HA

ebon sierra Jul 12, 2023, 5:26 PM

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i have no automations setup in HA yet

dark sigil Jul 12, 2023, 5:26 PM

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And ... that's your problem

ebon sierra Jul 12, 2023, 5:26 PM

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never done it before

dark sigil Jul 12, 2023, 5:26 PM

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We can't help with SmartLife

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If you want that to work you need to use Tuya's forums/whatever their support method is

ebon sierra Jul 12, 2023, 5:27 PM

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not needing help with Smartlife as Im trying to be home assitant only

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to be safer

dark sigil Jul 12, 2023, 5:27 PM

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Then disable all the SmartLife logic
Write some automations in HA

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Start with the first part - disable all the SmartLife logic and dive into HA's automations

ebon sierra Jul 12, 2023, 5:28 PM

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is there any slow way I can do this?

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i have medical needs!

dark sigil Jul 12, 2023, 5:28 PM

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Having two systems fight for control is going to be painful

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Pick a thing, migrate it wholesale

ebon sierra Jul 12, 2023, 5:29 PM

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ok I will try to do it slowly this week to get things all into HA then come back on it! if thats ok ?

dark sigil Jul 12, 2023, 5:29 PM

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Sure, but as I said we can't help with any SmartLife side of things, just the HA side

ebon sierra Jul 12, 2023, 5:30 PM

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I understand that!

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thanks!

ebon sierra Jul 12, 2023, 5:36 PM

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dark sigil > every time the switch auto turns off What does that ? > the Motion sensor seem...

Sorry I have Dyslexia! not on purpose 🙂 And miss things! Ands thank you yes this is better for me! 🙂

ebon sierra Jul 13, 2023, 10:14 PM

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Is there any reason why Im getting a slow responce fron a sensor? I have a few of the same type but just getting one that can delay for upto 20 seconds or longer

eternal arrowBOT Jul 14, 2023, 6:55 AM

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Tuya

Instructions on how to set up the Tuya hub within Home Assistant.

Quality scale

No score

IoT Class

Cloud Push

Integration type

hub

Documentation

View the documentation

Source

View the source on GitHub

Issues

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dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 6:55 AM

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If you look at the docs you'll see it's cloud based, that's always going to be slower than local

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Also, Tuya's cloud service is ... not great

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Tuya device integration with HA

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Have a look at https://github.com/make-all/tuya-local and https://github.com/rospogrigio/localtuya which may help here

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 9:57 AM

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dark sigil Also, Tuya's cloud service is ... not great

Thank on this I was thinking it maybe its the hub or that one sensor as all the other sensors are fine and pretty quick. wil have a look and read on it all !

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 11:53 AM

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If Im to disable tuya can I leave it there in home assistant to go back to it as a backup?

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 12:29 PM

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As a backup to what?

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 1:17 PM

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in case I mess things up trying to do thi schange over 🙂

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i also noticed now that tow of my sensors are not compatible is there a easy way to find devices that are to but?

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 1:23 PM

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Don't buy Tuya

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You're 100% better off buying things that are #zigbee-archived (but still not Tuya)

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:01 PM

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Yes I know it stated that it was zigbee compatible but its not! So I will need to but two new ones which I think I might go for Hue ones to be sure I hope 🙂

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:02 PM

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"it"?

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:03 PM

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I just got refunded for them and told to throw these in the bin which was really nice of them to do for me!

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Its funny really as the devices say not compatible but home assistant got them into it, so I also checked the switch to make sure that was compatible as its teh same make! And its compatible so no clue why there sensors say it and Home assistant says not!

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:05 PM

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Well... you're talking in vague terms about a "thing"... without telling us what it is

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Hard to help you when you won't tell us

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:06 PM

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Moes Motion Sensor sorry!

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:06 PM

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Model number?

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Most Tuya related brands make hundreds of devices

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:09 PM

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ZSS-X-PIR-C

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:09 PM

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Looks to be Zigbee, though not supported by Zigbee2MQTT... maybe it'll work with ZHA

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Any non-Tuya hub is unlikely to support it

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:11 PM

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I tried to do a Automation with it and it does not show up. what is a ZHA

eternal arrowBOT Jul 14, 2023, 3:12 PM

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Zigbee Home Automation

Instructions on how to integrate your Zigbee Home Automation (ZHA) devices within Home Assistant.

Quality scale

No score

IoT Class

Local Polling

Integration type

integration

Documentation

View the documentation

Source

View the source on GitHub

Issues

View known issues

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:12 PM

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The default way of connecting Zigbee devices to HA - with a suitable coordinator

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How were you trying to connect it? To your Tuya hub, or something else?

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:18 PM

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I added Tuya to HS but no clue how its doing it

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:18 PM

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You'd have to pair that device to your Tuya hub

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(and then hope that their cloud integration exposes it)

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:18 PM

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I never used tuya

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as I know

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:18 PM

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Well, Zigbee devices need to be connected to some form of Zigbee hub/coordinator

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Without that they're just pretty paperweights

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:19 PM

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the hub is zigby compatible

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:19 PM

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Right, but you still have to pair the Zigbee devices to it

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They don't work by magic

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:20 PM

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I got it in a pack at the start of trying all o fthis

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:20 PM

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Doesn't mean it came already paired

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Almost certainly it didn't

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:21 PM

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not sure how I paired it now why I get confused!

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I know I have a tuya account

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not sure if smartlife sends it to zigbee why I think might be better getting a whole new setup?

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:22 PM

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Well, I think there's two things at play here

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Tuya is a shit show

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You have no idea what you're doing

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:22 PM

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🙂

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correct!

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:23 PM

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For Zigbee you're 100% better off going direct with ZHA

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Buy a #zigbee-archived coordinator (that channel can help) and you can use your Zigbee devices directly

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:23 PM

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what is a ZHA?

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:23 PM

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#1128736242159337503 message

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For the WiFi based Tuya devices you'd probably want to see if there's a good Zigbee alternative, and if not what your other options are

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Ultimately not buying Tuya is the best thing

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:27 PM

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The issues I have here is most things are Zigbee though they are shit 🙂 your right there!

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:28 PM

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Well, it may also be that you don't understand Zigbee well enough to set up a healthy mesh

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Just slapping a bunch of end devices around isn't going to work

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:29 PM

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I have issues due to different medical things needing different things so I tend to have to try to get what makes them work some how what makes it hard for me on things!

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:29 PM

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Well, HA can help there, if you get the basics right

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:29 PM

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why i thought best to come over to HS to do this

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:30 PM

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You do need to understand how things work though, many people think Zigbee is terrible because they don't understand how it works

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:32 PM

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I dont find anythign terrible and yes I seen there web site an dit is very complicated to get stated with it but liek anything they more time you spend with it the more you learn.

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:33 PM

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And we have a #zigbee-archived channel with many handy pinned messages

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 3:33 PM

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I also never had anyone helping me to try to understand it liek you are doing ! Thank you!

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Is there anything you would recomend in a ground footing hub for me with HS?

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:39 PM

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No hubs, ever 😉

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For #zigbee-archived you want a Zigbee coordinator

eternal arrowBOT Jul 14, 2023, 3:39 PM

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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 3:39 PM

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See also the ZHA pages

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 4:29 PM

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so if Im going to do it this way its like you said doing it from the start again! So might also be best I get a new Raspberry pi 4 8mb ram to start new then I can have a temp backup in case of a failures

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is there any where in the uk selling these sticks?

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 5:56 PM

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Plenty of places, but why limit yourself

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 7:01 PM

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is it better to have POE nowadays? I have no setup for this but wondering the benefits of it

dark sigil Jul 14, 2023, 7:13 PM

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Do you already have support for PoE?

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 10:02 PM

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Is this a good start for me this time? I can get from London! https://electrolama.com/projects/zig-a-zig-ah/

ebon sierra Jul 14, 2023, 10:37 PM

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I also have a Yellow here but it does not work why Id rather buy in the UK as it took 3 months to get to me then does not work! Come from China!

dark sigil Jul 15, 2023, 7:10 AM

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Yeah, I have one of the ZZH and it works well

ebon sierra Jul 15, 2023, 9:14 AM

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is it possible to have two setup in case of distances? like downstairs add another raspberry pi and add another of these ZZH into its usb? No I have no support for PoE not even sure if the router will do it

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you mention these devices are no good (Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus–ZBDongle-E) can you tell me why they are no good so I can have a clue at what issues down the line they have?

ebon sierra Jul 15, 2023, 1:44 PM

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will these devices work with a Yellow?

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or is it best to stick to a Raspberry pi

dark sigil Jul 15, 2023, 7:48 PM

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#zigbee-archived can help with all your Zigbee questions

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No, one coordinator, many (Zigbee) routers see https://blog.ceard.tech/2019/11/zigbee-and-home-assistant

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The Sonoff P (CC2652) dongle has build quality issues. The E dongle is fine with ZHA, not fine with Zigbee2MQT

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The yellow is just a Pi

ebon sierra Jul 30, 2023, 10:13 AM

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are you talking to me 🙂

dark sigil Jul 30, 2023, 10:15 AM

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There's nobody else in this thread...

ebon sierra Jul 30, 2023, 10:18 AM

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i never notice how do you know this? 🙂

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i dont have a yaml of the automation

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unless it hides it some where when I do one

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how can i send you snapshots

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alias: white button turn light on
description: ''
trigger:

platform: device
device_id: e509
domain: bthome
type: button
subtype: press
condition: []
action:
type: turn_on
device_id: 38ab8
entity_id: light.desk_lamp_bulb
domain: light

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and to turn off

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alias: desk lamp off
description: ''
trigger:

platform: device
device_id: 8e509
domain: bthome
type: button
subtype: double_press
condition: []
action:
type: turn_off

dark sigil Jul 30, 2023, 12:02 PM

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You really want to:

Use a code share site, and share the entire automation
Post this in the #automations-archived channel so others can see your question
Explain what your question is

eternal arrowBOT Jul 30, 2023, 12:02 PM

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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language, and consider picking a longer expiry)
http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

dark sigil Jul 30, 2023, 12:03 PM

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ebon sierra i never notice how do you know this? 🙂

It's on the sidebar...

ebon sierra Jul 30, 2023, 12:57 PM

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thanks fo rthis what about people with Ddylexia like myself 🙂

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i find visions seeing it better than text as text jumps for me and I make lots of mistakes

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but know it as to be 100%

#Tuya device integration with HA