#installation-archived

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humble mirage
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I don't use HAOS, somebody else will have to help with that

fervent jewel
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ok, not sure if this is relevent but during boot it looks like its failing to load firmware for rtl nic

crude inlet
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Did you update the OS?

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Or only core?

fervent jewel
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im thinking it may have been OS

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ive managed to get myself to the HAOS-boot shell

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can see EFI1 and EFI2.... EFI2 seems to have all the config etc

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though cant seem to find a command list i can use in this shell

fervent jewel
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Ok while the boot occurring was able to pause on the last screen that flashes before I land on the white auto boot screen

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Appears to show a bunch of stuff about efi

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Last line states environment load /efivars/barebox-env- some sequence of numbers no such file or dir

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When running the boot command in the HAOS-boot shell it doesn’t appear to find any valid targets

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But then lists details for B and A

fervent jewel
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Hmm don’t think there is any way to recover from this. And from all the reading I can find the community seem to advise to steer clear from HAOS

daring lance
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@fervent jewel, what power supply are you using? I've had similar issues after updates with fast mobile chargers being the problem

sour lark
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@humble mirage I somehow totally fudged my Docker install by trying to use my new compose file. So I uninstalled it and am stuck unable to install it again because the get.docker script returns "The repository 'https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bullseye Release' does not have a Release file." Can you please point me in the right direction?

humble mirage
sour lark
humble mirage
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And ... for future reference

abstract hearthBOT
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@sour lark Generally, don't tag people to ask for help - it comes across as bad manners, you’re demanding somebody answers you. It’s different if you’re thanking somebody, obviously. If you do tag somebody keep it polite and respectful. Remember that everybody is a volunteer, and nobody has to help you, and people may block you.

Similarly, please don’t DM (direct message) people asking for help. It also comes across as demanding, and means that others can’t learn from what you do.

Finally, please keep tagging people in replies to a minimum. That too can become annoying very quickly and should be used only when it's necessary (such as if it's been a long time, or there's multiple conversations going on). When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

sour lark
# abstract hearth

my bad, apologies. I've googled and googled, posted in Docker & RaspPi Discords (to no response) so I've desperately returned to the one person who helped

sour lark
humble mirage
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There is no Ubuntu bullseye

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Are you running Ubuntu, or are you running Debian?

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Or, do you not know?

sour lark
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It's Rasp Pi, so Debian?

humble mirage
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Well, no

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Maybe it's Raspberry Pi OS

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It's rather important to know

sour lark
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how to confirm?

humble mirage
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Look at /etc/os-release

sour lark
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cat /proc/version returns: Linux version 5.10.92-v7l+ (dom@buildbot) (arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc-8 (Ubuntu/Linaro 8.4.0-3ubuntu1) 8.4.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.34) #1514 SMP Mon Jan 17 17:38:03 GMT 2022 - looks like Ubuntu, eh?

humble mirage
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I don't know whether to be impressed, or concerned

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I say look here and you ignore me and go look elsewhere

sour lark
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I had already been googling, will go look at that

humble mirage
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And, I'm not going to waste my time if you're going to ignore me

sour lark
sour lark
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oh damn, I was going there, you were the only person helping me! I thought I was being proactive

humble mirage
sour lark
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oh please

sour lark
sour lark
humble mirage
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There's instructions at that link, try them

sour lark
humble mirage
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Because you're not paying any attention

sour lark
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I'm trying very hard. Can you tell me what I'm missing?

humble mirage
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Start by removing the lines you added to your APT config

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You're not running Ubuntu, so that's clearly wrong

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Until you un-fuck your install you can't go forwards

sour lark
humble mirage
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/etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/

sour lark
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Okay, I found it in the sources.list. Is this the line I need to remove:

#deb-src http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/ bullseye main contrib non-free rpi
grand pivot
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I miss that guy. He sure was interesting

sour lark
humble mirage
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Then you haven't found and removed the line you added referring to Ubuntu

sour lark
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My whole Home Assistant instance is gone because I tried to follow your advice to use Compose files but I'm dumb so I messed something up. You appear to know how to fix it so I'm humbly asking for your help to get back to where I was. Please 🙏

humble mirage
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Somewhere in /etc/apt you have a reference to Ubuntu, because you ignored reality

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If sources.list is empty then you really fucked things up

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See that thing about backups?

sour lark
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😭

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Sources.list is empty because the instruction was to remove the lines I added. There was only 3 lines there and I removed them.

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I really am trying to do exactly what you're saying, but I'm unclear, and that's what's screwing things up

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oooh, inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d is docker.list - that file has a mention of ubuntu. So I should remove that line?

humble mirage
sour lark
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I didn't knowingly add the lines so I didn't know what to remove and to my newb ears, you sounded cryptic so I did what I thought you were instructing me to do

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😦

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I'm trying to learn and I'm trying to follow instructions

brazen herald
humble mirage
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If only I'd been banging on about:

  • Ask if you don't know
  • Make backups
daring lance
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For some reason (Myself as experience), one neglects backups for the first HA installation. With experience though... You get totally opposite. Did a small change in my configuration... Think I'll do a full backup!

brazen herald
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Always good advice. If only it were heeded.

sour lark
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I will definitely get backups going if I ever get my Home Assistant started again. Is there anyone that can help me get that going again? I'm stuck at apt-get update because of a source issue. I keep getting an error that says 'The repository 'https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bullseye Release' does not have a Release file.'

humble mirage
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Then you still have a reference to that somewhere

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Fix that then apt update

sour lark
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I saw a mention of it on /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list so I removed that and just ran

sudo apt update

the return of which was:

Ign:1 https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bullseye InRelease
Err:2 https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bullseye Release
404 Not Found [IP: 2600:9000:215a:3e00:3:db06:4200:93a1 443]
Hit:3 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian bullseye InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
E: The repository 'https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bullseye Release' does not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.

sour lark
umbral rampart
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seems excessive

versed jackal
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Hey guys how do I update the hassio multicast, dns, audio components? I'm using HassOS. There is a newer version available in GitHub but I don't see any button to update in my Hassio

grand pivot
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You don't update them manually. If there's an update being offered, you'll get a notification

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I assume those would all be part of a Supervisor update

versed jackal
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@grand pivot thanks for the reply.

But for example, I see that version 2022.02.0 for multicast is available and it's not a pre-release/beta

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but maybe you are right and they only get updated when Supervisor gets updated

high token
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how do you know it's not already the version you have?

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either they come with Supervisor or they are updated in the background without your knowledge (can't really remember)

versed jackal
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docker ps (ssh addon)

high token
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I just checked in two separate instances

versed jackal
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right, actually, try dns

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mine is running 2021.06.0

high token
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so is mine

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and everyone else's actually

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it's still listed here

versed jackal
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understood.

high token
versed jackal
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So, I think they get updated automatically

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because I never saw a button/notification to upgrade either of these components

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like audio, multicast, dns

high token
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they definitely do so does Supervisor (you just get to see the Supervisor update show up)

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but it will auto update if you don't update it yourself

versed jackal
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got it. Thank you!

high token
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my guess is they update themselves and not part of Supervisor

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otherwise they wouldn't be a need to be listed in the json seperately

versed jackal
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although automatic

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yeah, it may be the case

high token
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automatic for sure as they are required for the system to function properly

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same reason the Supervisor will autoupdate

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so essentially nothing to worry about 😛

versed jackal
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same reason the Supervisor will autoupdate
Hm.. I always receive a notification

versed jackal
oak dew
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Sooo, what if I have an installation running, but want to upgrade the SD card, how do I migrate my home assistant? Make a backup and install a clean version?

humble mirage
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Yup

humble mirage
night sage
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SORRY I delete it

atomic cape
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Hi guys... i tried to connect to the HassOS installed on a Raspberry Pi via SSH (i mean the host os, cause i installed a conbeeII there) but it does not work

humble mirage
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Well, that's expected

atomic cape
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is there any documentation on how to get that work?

humble mirage
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Why are you trying to SSH to the host?

atomic cape
atomic cape
humble mirage
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There's no need to SSH to the host itself unless you're a developer

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You can see connected hardware in the Supervisor's Host menu

atomic cape
humble mirage
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Yes

atomic cape
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ah cool, thanks, will have a look there

humble mirage
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If you go and use that then you're officially on your own

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If the ConBee isn't showing in the hardware menu then you likely have a power issue

atomic cape
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as this is the internal docker ip and i do not find the ports that are ported outside

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maybe i made a mistake there

humble mirage
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I think you're massively over-complicating things and looking in the wrong places

abstract hearthBOT
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The XY problem is asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem.

This leads to enormous amounts of wasted time and energy, both on the part of people asking for help, and on the part of those providing help.

The problem occurs when people get stuck on what they believe is the solution and are unable to step back and explain the issue in full.

humble mirage
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☝️

atomic cape
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absolutely true, i am used to have a look in the network configuration firewall settings etc

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😄

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to provide enough logs

humble mirage
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Then you're running the wrong install method 😉

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Go back to basics and see if the #zigbee-archived channel can help you with the actual problem you're having

atomic cape
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thanks a million!

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will give it a try

novel kite
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Guys my HA stopped working, i want to restore it and install a fresh one but i want to grab the automations.yaml file but when i insert my sd card these are the files i see. any tips on how to go from here?

humble mirage
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Don't you have backups?

novel kite
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sadly no this was a new system but i have some important id's there that i need to retrieve for some new devices

humble mirage
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The file system you need is formatted ext4 (or maybe ext3) and you'll need drivers for Windows to see it

novel kite
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thanks i will try

violet ferry
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My supervisor log is full of this, how can I find out why?
WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.api.ingress] No valid ingress session d1fed287ed58ca8a2548f1c5694efb7e9f877d2f710026bafe72651e94b9b0717d074fa7fc784546e1b5fbc0f6d4930ae36bebe24d2937b56be1297537828092

foggy flume
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anyone else getting a 404 error when trying a fresh installi of HAOS on a RPi3?

crude inlet
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@violet ferry you might have a browser or tab somewhere on your network which is open to some page of your frontend and has gone stale?

humble mirage
foggy flume
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Error in Preparing HA installing screens: [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.3.5.
22-03-18 10:04:02 ERROR (SyncWorker_6) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.3.5: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.3.5/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.3.5: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.3.5")
22-03-18 10:04:02 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
22-03-18 10:04:32 INFO (SyncWorker_6) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.3.5
22-03-18 10:04:32 INFO (SyncWorker_6) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.3.5.

crude inlet
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@foggy flume it's not likely a space issue on a new install but you are using a decent size SD? It's probably a network issue

foggy flume
stable saddle
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Running the HassOS qcow2 image as a VM in Unraid. I've had it up this way for a couple years now since graduating from a Pi. Yesterday I updated my motherboard's bios and spun the server back up. VMs didn't load because I forgot to enable virtualization after the update. I rebooted and enabled. Windows VM came up fine thereafter, but home assistant won't load. Nothing on the browser end and the vnc connection just shows "[WARN] Home Assistant CLI not starting! Jump into emergency console.." - I tried a few things I found online, but seems the vast majority of people have this issue right after install and not with a many-years-old install. Any suggestions on how to proceed?

placid sage
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Anyone has any idea and could help me a bit about this issue with HA blue? #installation-archived message

Key points of my issue are.

  • I have internet connection from the host (I can do a ping with no problem) but supervisor says doesn't have internet connection. Something wrong with docker maybe?
  • My time is not synchronized and thus I see errors of invalid certificate because of the time in the logs.
  • I already changed the dns server using nmcli because I saw this was a common plroblem but no luck, the issue remains.

I really would appreciate if someone could help me a bit with this

crude inlet
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@placid sage have you connected monitor and keyboard?

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Also the blue has a battery for the system clock. You might check if that is seated before going further

placid sage
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Hi @crude inlet, yes I did connect a monitor and a keyboard. I can log in to the cli but I'm not able to fix the issue

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ok, I can try to open the blue to check everything is in its place

violet ferry
lost obsidian
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My HASS VM ran out of space. how do I get from the ha > prompt into the bash shell?

high token
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login

lost obsidian
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ohhh

high token
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or just increase the size of the disk

lost obsidian
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would be way easier if it said that on the screen that you can do that

high token
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not generally I place you need to be at

lost obsidian
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true, but would be good info on that screen with all the other commands that you can use that I don't see as useful myself

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at least, haven't seen a use case for it so far

high token
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it's kind of on purpose not shown there

placid sage
# crude inlet Also the blue has a battery for the system clock. You might check if that is sea...

I did manage to open the blue, after going to buy an appropriate screw driver, and the battery it's in place and looks ok. But still I have the issue of supervisor without internet.

As I said, the blue host seems to have internet, I have an IP within the range of my vlan and pings are successful. But if I enter in the supervisor docker docker exec -it hash bash I can see docker container has no internet, ping fail inside the docker container. ifconfig command inside the container returns the IP 172.17.0.2 (my vlan is in the range of 192.168.50).

Any idea where to look or how to fix this?

Thanks a lot for your help

high token
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if I saw your error earlier it's a date issue

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so an issue with NTP servers not resolving

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if you have VLANs and such are you maybe blocking ntp servers in your network?

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172.17.0.2 is fine as that's internal in the docker network

placid sage
# high token so an issue with NTP servers not resolving

Thanks for your answer @high token. I also believe it's a ntp issue but I have no clue how to fix it. I wanted to install ntpdate to check but seems like I cannot install any package because there is no package manager.

I did stop the firewall in the router and I don't have any rule to block anything, all ports are open so I don't know why could this happen.

Do you have any idea how could I debug this to find the root cause of why my time is not being sync?

high token
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can you ping time.cloudflare.com ?

placid sage
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Yes, if I do it from the host I get a time.cloudfare.com is alive and if I enter inside the docker and do the same I get the following:

PING time.cloudfare.com (104.16.133.229): 56 data bytes 
64 bytes from 104.16.133.229: seq=0 ttl=57 time 5.323 ms
64 bytes from 104.16.133.229: seq=1 ttl=57 time 5.309 ms
64 bytes from 104.16.133.229: seq=2 ttl=57 time 5.198 ms
64 bytes from 104.16.133.229: seq=3 ttl=57 time 5.155 ms

And so on, all the time getting a ping of arounf 5 ms

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and after restarting the supervisor docker image seems like a curl to google also works so it has internet connection but if I do a network info in HA cli it says hosst_internet: false and supervisor_internet: false I don't unddedrstand it.

Another thing that is weird is the if I do a docker logs -f supervisor_docker_hash seems like supervisor is not writing logs anymore, the las log was:

´Updater.fetch_data´ blocked from execution, no supervisor internet connection
Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

But it seems like it never retries because there are no newer logs. 🤔

crude inlet
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@placid sage so date shows what?

placid sage
crude inlet
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and if you set it?

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date -s "2022-3-18 13:35" for example

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or just the date if the time is fine

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actually is hwclock showing the same as date?

placid sage
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Ohhhh! I did the date -s and I actually updated the time 🥳 this is starting to look promising

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The bad news is that with hwclock I get this message:

low voltage detected, date/time is not reliable
hwclock: RTC_RD_TIME: Invalid argument
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So I might have to replace the RTC battery

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do you know the exact command for hwclock so I don't get the Invalid argument?

hollow wharf
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Hey all, newer to HA here.
It looks like on March 9, my HAOS install updated supervisor and something caused it to fail to launch. I'm getting a python traceback when the container attempts to launch during boot. It prevents the rest of the containers from spinning up. Any help would be appreciated.
Traceback is here: https://pastebin.com/2HqBUW3v

crude inlet
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@placid sage hwclock --show but that works the same for me

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I assumed if you had access to the battery you would have given it the tongue test 😝 How could you resist?

placid sage
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@crude inlet I might have to do that 😂 😂

The good news is that it seems to be working now, superviisor was able to download its stuff and now I can log in Home Assistant 💪

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Thanks a lot for your help @crude inlet and @high token. You are really awesome and I'm so thankful for your help 🙇‍♂️

daring lance
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For rasp 4's. What power supplies are you using? I'm using a fast charger 25W mobile charger. And every now and then it seems that HA UI drops out. Server running and all is well. But just wondering if you got some experiences to share

karmic jungle
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I've got updates available for HA Core and OS. Does it matter which is updated first?

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7.5OS and 2022.3.5 Core

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thanks

high token
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Rpi4 doesn't do fast charging

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the charger will only provide as much amperage as it can in the 5V

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so I doubt its doing 5A

daring lance
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I kinda know. I just had an issue with a regular charger and changed to a fast charger I had laying around. Been fine for a week, but now I have same symptoms. Log saying undervoltage and not able to connect to UI. But looks like the server is running

high token
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then you need another charger

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it should say on it how much Amperage it can deliver for 5V

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but since it's already telling you undervoltage it's not gonna be enough

daring lance
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25w = 5A at 5V?

humble mirage
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Or another cable - the USB C cable may be the issue

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Just because a mobile charger says it supports something doesn't mean it does

high token
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check the charger because fast charger usually advertise the max they can delivery (but not for 5V)

daring lance
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aah.. .That makes sense

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So, buy original rasp power supply is probably the best option?

high token
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It's probably doing 25W in another voltage. E.g. 5V 2A but 10V 2.5A

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or something like that

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and obviously an Rpi will only use 5V

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the best bet is the official power supply yes

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definitely not anything too random that says 5V 3A

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most off brand PSUs never supply as much as they are advertised

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yours must be way less than 3A not only to say undervoltage but to also hung the whole system

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if this is also an SD card you are already entering corruption territory @daring lance

daring lance
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I'm super crazy abotu backups, so no worries there

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I find it really strange though. I have a weather logger outside HA. It still sends the data to it. But ill shop a brand rpi supply

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But thanks for the chat and input! Really helped me understand more

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Hope I can contribute, and not just ask soon

pale bridge
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USB chargers require a protocol to enable higher charging rate, mine for instance goes to 9V at about 2.2A during fast charging. Without this protocol using only resistances on the USB lines to identify it as generic power source, I cannot draw more than 2A from this supply. (at 5V)

trim briar
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how do you add custom components on HA supervised

high token
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some as any other installation

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either manually by putting it in /config/custom_components or by installing and using HACS

crude inlet
trim briar
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where exactly is the config dir

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no embed :(

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I'm in /usr/share/hassio

orchid pebble
jaunty ice
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idk why but like a week after deploying HAOS backups take forever to be created

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this is on x86 on an HP thinclient

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t530 i believe

crude inlet
trim briar
grand pivot
jaunty ice
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the backups are like 1 gb in size

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these are full backups btw

jovial rampart
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Check the size of home-assistant_v2.db in your config folder. If it is growing out of control then change your recorder settings

grand pivot
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And check the size of home-assistant.log and adjust your logger settings:

jaunty ice
high token
jaunty ice
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uhh, default?

high token
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10 days

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all your entities

jaunty ice
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yeah all my entities

high token
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do you then have 1000+ entities?

jaunty ice
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no lol

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actually how do i know

high token
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I have 2000 lol

jaunty ice
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did you like count them?

high token
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Quick and dirty = go to Cconfig --> Device & Entities --> Entities tab --> Select all

jaunty ice
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223 entities

high token
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God no. I have a template that tells me how many in total and how many per domain

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223 entities with 10 days history and 5.5GB database??

jaunty ice
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yeah

high token
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that is rather a lot

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for only 223 entities

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and you don't have anything configured in your config.yaml regarding the recorder?

jaunty ice
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no but i'm doing that rn

high token
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exclude anything you don't want

jaunty ice
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can't i just include what i do want instead?

high token
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but that huge of a database with that few entities you might have sensors that update themselves far too often

jaunty ice
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i don't need logging on my lamps for instance

high token
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yeah can do one or the other or both

jovial rampart
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I just keep stuff for 7 days I think.

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Who needs anything past that unless it is energy stuff

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Maybe even only 3 days.

high token
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Ι have 15 🙈

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my recorder.yaml is 200 lines though 😅

jovial rampart
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Yea, pretty sure my recorder yaml is the one line that cleans everything out after a specified number of days.

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200 lines…..my goodness man……to each is own though 😉

high token
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Essentially I'm too lazy to go to Grafana to look at past history lol

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I just need to next move the database of HAOS so it doesn't try to backup 5GB every time

jovial rampart
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Yea, I don’t use grafana either. Because of exactly what you said, I prob wouldn’t look at it anyway.

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So many things in HAss are super cool when you first start using it. Then things become not so cool and then they become a hassle to maintain 🤣

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I was just thinking today I have become a bit complacent with my home automation and need to find something new to play with 😉

jaunty ice
jovial rampart
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There is no right or wrong when it comes to the recorder. It’s a personal thing. As long as it passes the config check, run with it and watch your databases/logs

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Tweak as needed

high token
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you have too many spaces though

jaunty ice
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i moreso meant if what i did is correct

jovial rampart
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Config check 😉

grand pivot
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That's why we recommend the command line check

jovial rampart
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I was just searching for the bot command

jaunty ice
abstract hearthBOT
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Always run the configuration check command when you make changes. Don't trust the UI check - it misses some problems.

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Always run the configuration check command when you make changes. Don't trust the UI check - it misses some problems.

jaunty ice
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should i not use tab then?

jovial rampart
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Space

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I think tab won’t cause problems but spaces are better

high token
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I use tab

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but looks like you double tabed

jovial rampart
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Boo

jaunty ice
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imo tab is a little more clear

jaunty ice
jovial rampart
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Prob a copy paste thing

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Your top level looks off in the code share

jaunty ice
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when should it start shrinking though?

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after 10 days?

jaunty ice
high token
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one dot = a space

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you have 4

jovial rampart
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If you didn’t specify days, it won’t do anything but lessen the amount of data going in

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Although the default is 10 days I think

high token
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indeed

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so will take 10 days for what is now excluded to be gone

jaunty ice
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1 tab = 4 spaces

high token
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Hmm you are correct

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File Editor does that it seems

jaunty ice
#

yeah i am in the file editor

high token
#

I use vscode where tab is always 2 spaces

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I was under the assumption that was the case everywhere

jaunty ice
#

variations exist everywhere

grand pivot
#

You can change that

jaunty ice
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oh you can?

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eh still, i like the 4 space tab

grand pivot
jaunty ice
#

anyways thanks for the help!

high token
#

if you already want to lower the size you can either purge by days or by certain entities (or globs of entities)

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rather than waiting 10 days

crude inlet
#

Does anyone else never backup core?

high token
#

I haven't backed up in a couple of weeks 🙈

#

is your production also in dev?

crude inlet
#

I switch channels often. It is dev now

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I have backups, but core, specifically

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I uncheck the box because you can always select whichever

high token
#

I've been in dev for several months now. Used to backup to GDrive daily

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kinda stopped a few weeks back though

crude inlet
#

So you switched to the least stable and then stopped backups? 😂

high token
#

nooo kept dev haha

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it couldn't handle the backup of the 5GB database and it would lock

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so had no history till I'd restart

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currently on latest stable though becuase dev.4.x gave memory leaks 😢

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I just trust it not to kill it completely (and shouldn't these days)

idle jungle
#

i did a fresh Install via Virtual box and the appropriate image but it gets stuck 😑 Error returned form Supervisor: System is not ready with state: setup

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to fix:
Settings -> Network-> Advanced-> set Promiscuous-Modus to "erlauben für alle VMs und den Host" means something like "allow all for VMs and Host"

high token
#

are you using Ethernet in bridge mode?

idle jungle
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yes

high token
#

are there no actually errors?

idle jungle
novel kite
#

im trying to connect my rasp pi with HA to a wifi. I have connected my pi to a screen and a keyboard but what do i do next, i forgot the commands..

misty magnet
#

Im installing homeassistant on a second server - one for each of the two houses on my address, and i would like one common ui for both houses! What is the best way to make them talk? Or could i create a lovelace ui with controlelements from both servers?

humble mirage
high token
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no need for a scree and keyboard these days 😄

#

if possible, you should avoid Wifi though

novel kite
#

I can’t even access the HA. I have connected it to a screen to try and troubleshoot

#

My homeassistant.local:8123 doesn’t work

high token
#

this is a fresh installation?

novel kite
#

It worked for a few weeks with some sensors

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But it was working with wifi, after I accidentally turned the pi off, it stopped working

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Even with a lan cable

high token
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right now you have a cable though or?

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it's booted to the ha banner?

novel kite
#

no banner ,nothing

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i have a cable connected now

high token
#

is there any output at all?

#

which pi?

novel kite
#

the only working stuff i see is on my screen with the ipv4 and ipv6 adresses

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rasp pi 4

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i could install a fresh system but theres some house id's that i have on it i want to retrieve

high token
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ok so it does have an output. not just a black screen

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Should say Ipv4 address for eth0

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but its empty for you?

novel kite
#

How do I clear the screen

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I have typed info and stats

high token
#

do banner

novel kite
#

IPv4 for eth0 has an adress

high token
#

have you tried that address on a browser?

novel kite
#

192.168.0.186/24

high token
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(or https if you had set up SSL)

novel kite
#

nope, doesnt work

high token
novel kite
#

Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

high token
#

ok so some of it is working

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anything useful if you do su logs ?

novel kite
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i can take a pic

high token
#

does it have warnings/errors?

novel kite
#

yes

high token
#

pick which sounds more scary

high token
#

looks like it had some issues with HA crashing

#

but seems to have fixed itself or it would have keep saying it crashed

#

if you run it again does it show the same?

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as in time wise? essentially looking if it's crashing all over

novel kite
#

su logs shows the same everytime i run it

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i can try and restart the pi

#

but ive done that many times

high token
#

with new timestamps?

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do login

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then docker logs hassio_supervisor --follow

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will be crazy at first but when it gets to 22:31 timestamp does it calm down?

novel kite
#

Its the same as su logs

high token
#

yeah I know. I'm just looking for if the same goes into a loop

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HA crashed rebuilding - seems ok

#

then crashing again

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I take it no though

#

because the logs are live now it would be obvious if new errors showed up

novel kite
#

I don’t see anything new

high token
#

ok that's fine

#

Ctrl C to escape that

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what about ha core logs

high token
#

Hm doesn't look like Core is up

#

docker ps -f name=homeassistant take it says excited?

novel kite
#

seems like something is missing?

high token
#

you can just docker ps -a for sure

#

but you're missing the entire HA container

#

in which case ha su repair

novel kite
#

Yep I see all my addons like pgadmin and so on

high token
#

also based on that last screenshot it think you were/are running HA 2021.8.8 🤔

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I thought you had only gotten into it a few weeks ago

novel kite
#

ye the system is a few months old but it only worked for a few weeks in the beginning

high token
#

lol I've never seen that command not wrap lines

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that's a wide screen!!

novel kite
#

ye lol i had to get a micro hdmi to hdmi and use my tv haha

high token
#

HA is there now I see it

#

3rd line

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but indeed can't get up

novel kite
#

yep

#

if i can just get the files from the tellstick addon (7th line) i could just reinstall the system

#

i dont know which way is easier

high token
#

had you not made a backup?

novel kite
#

nop

#

i have a backup of my entire system, but not after i got some new 433 mhz devices and hooked those up to my system

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i would need to install windows on my mac just to get those codes and i dont wanna do that

high token
#

it will have tried this itself already

novel kite
#

ha su repair completed succesfully

high token
#

try now ha core rebuild

#

and once completed check first docker ps -a if running or already excited

novel kite
#

ha core rebuild

unknown error, see supervisor

high token
#

right

#

so one idea would be make a backup for your addon from the command line

#

then get it out from the SD card to restore in a new installation

novel kite
#

If that’s possible then it would be nice

high token
#

could also just do a full backup in case you want anything from your HA config

#

or do both I guess

#

ha backups new --addons core_tellstick should make one for that addon

#

( I think that was the name of the addon?)

#

ha backups new should make a full one of everything

novel kite
#

slug: 835fbcbd

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Does that mean it worked

high token
#

check su logs

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if yes it should say Creating partial backup with slug 835fbcbd completed

novel kite
#

Yes it worked

high token
#

I'm not familiar with tellstick but this assumes anything you want was stored in the addon itself right

novel kite
#

Yes it should be

high token
#

if it was in /config then it won't be in this backup

#

do a full backup as well just in case

novel kite
#

ok

#

It should be on the sd card?

high token
#

if full one is also finished then ha host shutdown to cleanly shut it down

#

one of them has a link to a program to use to read the SD card

#

(it's not readable by default in windows)

novel kite
#

ok thank you very much

high token
#

hope it works

#

just in case would use a different SD card to flash

novel kite
#

thank you!

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id it possible to read the sd card on a mac?

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or i can try on a windows pc tomorrow

high token
#

the pinned message should have links to a windows and a mac programm I believe

idle jungle
#

what can i do if Preparing Home Assistant takes longer than 20 minutes ?

grand pivot
#

click the blue dot

idle jungle
#

and then ?

grand pivot
#

see what it's doing

idle jungle
#

nothing

grand pivot
#

ok

idle jungle
#

now after 40 min it is working

placid sage
#

Hi firiend a this time working in android termux ?manuale instruction? Thank s

placid sage
#

Out dated? Noto supporter?

left kraken
#
Source: components/recorder/util.py:408
Integration: Recorder (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 11:38:48 (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 11:38:48

Ended unfinished session (id=42 from 2022-03-14 07:26:08.446699)```
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What's that? Could it be a reason for HA freeze?

crude inlet
#

@left kraken did you pull power?

#

That's usually the reason for that message

quartz wing
#

Is there an easy way to make the Home Assistant container not run as root (without extending the image with my own docker file)

high token
#

are you referring to the privileged flag?

novel kite
#

i have installed the linux reader but what file has my backup from yesterday?

#

i cant find it

#

found it

quartz wing
quartz wing
#

I've created a new docker image that creates a new user (docker_user) and then switches to that user before the process starts, so now the main process runs as docker_user, but I don't know if there is an easier option that doesn't involve creating a new image

left kraken
buoyant yarrow
#

Can you use docker run --user-remap ... so that root in the HA container maps to your desired host user?

fervent tree
#

How to reset an already running HA to "factory" (want to building a new setup... for our new home) ? Can't find anything in the Docs?

humble mirage
#

Delete everything in the config folder, all the hidden files and folders too

fervent tree
#

...everything 🙄 ?

humble mirage
#

No, I actually meant just two files...

fervent tree
#

😄

humble mirage
#

Yes everything

fervent tree
#

So HA will then re-create a new setup/files?

humble mirage
#

When you reboot the host, yes

fervent tree
#

🤞

#

Actually a bit fun, to see the welcome wizard for the first time in 4 years -- it's nice !! 😎 thanks @humble mirage

supple obsidian
#

Hi, I am having a problem with my home assistant disk space getting out of control. I believe it is due to failed backups or snapshots taking up space. I have tried to locate them on the disk but am not able to. Would someone be able to direct me where to look or how to hunt for large files.

humble mirage
#

It could also be corrupt database backups - SSH on and check the contents of your config folder

supple obsidian
#

@humble mirage having a look with df or du maybe?

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I clearly suck with Linux commands. I've played around with ls du and df and can't figure anything out

nocturne talon
#

anybody using node red in combination with ios devices for notifications??

humble mirage
#

Same for sharing the results of an ls -l of your config folder

supple obsidian
abstract hearthBOT
#

@supple obsidian Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
#

Nothing huge in the folder, I'll let others who know HAOS troubleshoot from here

supple obsidian
#

ok thanks and appreciate the irc info

crude inlet
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@supple obsidian what do you have in /backups directory?

supple obsidian
#

a single file, maybe this is it!7.5G Feb 21 17:49 ad195986.tar

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but still odd how almost all of 64gb is consumed, removing that its still like 55+ Gb

crude inlet
#

Are you using cameras?

supple obsidian
#

nope

crude inlet
#

Try running ha su repair

supple obsidian
#

actually I do have environment Canada as a camera I believe

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ill give ha su repair a go and see what happens, ill remove that file also

supple obsidian
#

I still can't seem to figure out what is taking all of the disk space, when I do a df command I have many folders showing as having 55.7G used. What is a good way to narrow it down? Similar output as this minus the backup file I removed

fleet sierra
#

Hi folks, I have home assistant container (podman) running behind traefik (2.6.something), however ios companion app wont log in (android and web seem to be fine) due to a websocket error.
I think ive narrowed this down to my proxy allowing http/2 which doesn't play nicely with websockets. If I force curl into http1.1 i see the expected upgrade response when hitting/api/websocket
Any suggestions? No luck working out where I should set the disableHTTP2 = true in my home assistant dynamic traefik config.

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I should clarify: the ios companion app initialises, redirects to web page, can log in correctly, redirecs back then fails to complete

upbeat tusk
#

Not sure if this goes here but... I tried restoring a backup and I got an error it said "check with Supervisor". I then lost connection to my HA. I thought maybe the backup had actually started to load. So I waited. After 20 mins I still didn't have access to HA. I went and checked my Raspberry Pi and it was at the normal Home Assistant screen it is always at with the ha> blinking. So I figured it had locked up. So I rebooted it. After it booted back to the main screen I still couldn't connect to my dashboard. So I turned off my Pi for about 30 secs and turned it back on.... same thing. I have no idea what the heck just happened but my Home Assistant is not running right now. Any thoughts on how to get it up and running again?

upbeat tusk
#

I use DuckDNS for my web connection. I made sure the IP address is correct with that. I also tried connecting directly to the Pi's IP (on port 8123) but that wouldn't connect either.

abstract hearthBOT
ruby flower
#

Good evening. After a series of power outages, my RaspPi's SD card decided to poop the bed, and I needed to get a new one. I figured that because my first attempt at Home Assistant was a pretty noob effort, I would re-do my entire environment from scratch, and this time, use more of the built-in instructions (I was kludging stuff together).

My setup is successfully deployed and i'm starting to plug in more of my automations/devices, but is there more command line access to the HomeAssistant OS via commandline/putty? Is it possible to VNC or otherwise access GUI on the Linux OS? Is it possible to get access to the Config.yaml through the web browser?

HassBot moved my system stats to hastebin: https://hastebin.com/qeduxajane

EDIT, I found some information I think I need here: https://github.com/home-assistant/addons/blob/master/ssh/DOCS.md

hearty summit
#

Hi there, I just need some help on how to access my new HA on my Raspberry Pi 4. I just flashed the SD and plugged in the network cable but I cant seem to access it

#

It also says in the network info that interfaces connected false

north crown
#

Hey peeps 🤔
Having probs with a fresh install with TTS. My old install on a 64gb sd worked fine in sending messages to google home but my new 16gb sd card’s install says Failed to call service media_player/play_media.
I can stream radio from radio browser but not do tts.
Any ideas??

abstract hearthBOT
#

If tts isn't working in your media players (and on a Google device at most you get a bloop), then the problem is most likely down to SSL. If you're using SSL in HA make sure that your external_url is correctly set, and that internal_url matches it. Alternatively set base_url in the tts integration to your external SSL URL.

north crown
#

Thanks Tinkerer
So my base_url is set to my external url or should I have external_url: blank.dickens.org?

humble mirage
#

Well, do you have SSL set up in HA?

#

If yes, then make sure external_url is set, and that internal_url is either blank or matches it

#

blank.dickens.org isn't a URL

north crown
#

I use duckdns.
My external url is in the format https://copy.duckdns.org
I am able to log in and also able to link google home devices to ha and control ha via google assistant but not tts

#

Copy is an example - not my real address

#

Should I try deleting my ssl/fullchain.pem and /ssl/privkey.pem and pull through fresh ones?

humble mirage
#

No

#

What you should do is check that external_url is set to that URL, and that internal_url is either blank, or set to the same thing

#

Alternatively set base_url in tts: to that external URL

pulsar monolith
#

my HA was working - but I reset and can't get into the UI - my server is also offline as none of my automations etc are working. Everything in the console looks like its working and theres no problems:
https://imgur.com/a/USQyB30
I changed nothing on my end - only just restarted the server as I had to reboot my NUC

#

I am using VIrtualBox

north crown
#

Where do I look for external url in ha

pulsar monolith
#

I've just made another fresh install of HA and still I can't access the server when I could when I installed a few days ago - not sure if windows has put a firewall or something on it

north crown
#

Found it…

#

You beauty
Thanks @humble mirage you are spot on.
Now sorted 😊

humble mirage
north crown
#

Is there a way to change the voice settings for tts?

humble mirage
#

See the docs for whatever TTS integration you're using

north crown
#

I’ll give that a go

#

Cheers😊

quartz wing
oak dew
#

the installation page recommends 32gb or more for the sd card, but other place note that 64 or more needs to be formatted as fat32, this isn't mentioned on the home assistant website though?

#

raspberry pi

crude inlet
#

The SD is formatted when the image is written

oak dew
#

so I wouldn't need to format it fat32 myself but if it is formatted fat32 it's also fine

crude inlet
#

yeah. As long as it is recognized by your system, whatever is on it will be wiped

oak dew
#

alright, other question then, I have a backup downloaded, how would I upload it to the new sd? I'm trying to migrate sd card

crude inlet
#

You wouldn't upload it to the SD. You would upload it to the newly running system. You can try it during onboarding, but I would instead continue with setup with a dummy user, then upload and restore the backup

oak dew
#

ahh, and I can just upload the .tar file folder thing

old fog
#

Hi, I installed recently HA on a chromebook using the Linux container and it works as expected, until I try to reach it through the local network on another device, it timeout with error -1001 (iOS app).
Any idea if ChromeOS might be preventing me to reach out HA from the outside ? 🤔

daring lance
#

I've had some issues and resolved it by updating the IP address on duckDNS. I found a curl command to automate the update, but is there a way to store the duckDNS token in secrets? How do I refer to it in the curl command?

humble mirage
daring lance
#

I know about that, but the integration does not update the IP address which my provider randomly changes... ? I need to update at the duckDNS site

humble mirage
#

If it isn't working then you should check your log file for the cause

daring lance
#

I did. I had to remove the HTTP section in my config, then I got it working locally. When I added it I got unable to connect. Updated the duckDNS ip and everything is fine

humble mirage
#

Well, that's up to you... what you want to use

daring lance
#

So I'm thinking maybe I got some other issues too then? Because it did not work with my https//: localIP

crude inlet
#

@daring lance https://local_ip:8123 ?

humble mirage
#

Easy is personal - everybody is different

old fog
humble mirage
humble mirage
daring lance
humble mirage
#

Then you had a bigger issue

crude inlet
#

just to confirm, local ip is the ip address of your installation, and not your external ip

#

And yeah if that wasn't working, then bigger issue

daring lance
#

Yes, the local IP is the IP my local router designates HA

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But everything is fine now. So I can assume I'm accessing HA via internett, not locally when I'm on my wifi? Or am I missing something

old fog
#

All the tutorial I see online are installing it

humble mirage
#

There's an add-on, which is different from the integration

old fog
#

I have just installed HA via docker container, I guess I don't get as much as the OS 🤔

humble mirage
#

Sure, you don't get add-ons, so you can install the same software other ways

glossy thorn
#

hi
so i have sort of a limited setup
i have everything done for the home assistant core except for makign the homeassitant user
any way i can bypass taht and just use the current user instead

#

oh nvm, running hass as it is seems to have opened a server

#

how do i add support for reverse proxies

#

oh nevermind apparently home assistant is not meant for the cloud

#

idk what i was thinking it was but oh well

high token
#

I'm very confused with your thought process there

grand pivot
#

Lost me at hi

jaunty ice
#

@high token is it supposed to still log things that i no longer want to log?

#

(obvious answer is obvious i know)

#

but yeah it still logs things even after restarting HA or the entire system

high token
#

what's your yaml like for the recorder right now?

karmic condor
#

I hooked up a display to my Pi running HA.. Fairly useless at the moment, is there an easy way to have it showing the current contents of my logs at any given moment?

jaunty ice
#

i might do it properly at some point but rn it's like 1 am

high token
#

@jaunty ice may or may not be because of this but your yaml isn't technically valid

#
include:
    entity_globs:
    - binary_sensor.*_occupancy
#

should better be

include:
  entity_globs:
    - binary_sensor.*_occupancy
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Did you definitely try to look at an entity that isn't perhaps falling into ones under glob?

jaunty ice
#

ah, so add another tab to the sensor globs?

high token
#

you have 4 spaces now

#

must be using file editor

#

on the gear under editor settings there's a tab size

#

it's 4, shoulf be 2

#

as long as it's multiples of 2 I don't think it messes up with yaml. But generally should be 2 in my opinion

jaunty ice
#

i like it being more spaced out like this tbh, though i'll give it a try

grand pivot
#

4 is fine until you start to manage Lovelace using YAML. It gets out of control really quickly

jaunty ice
#

also this is include, why are things not listed in include still logging?

high token
#

you are seeing full history still on all sensors?

jaunty ice
#

yep, lights are not on the list, yet they still have history

high token
#

but it's not the same history since you changed it? There is actually new history being recorded?

#

obviously history already present till the point of the change will not go away immediately/automatically

jaunty ice
#

it's new history

#

wait

#

is it?

high token
#

hahaha

#

Best way would be to purge the history of a light and see if there's one made

#

or even the whole light domain

jaunty ice
#

i may be stupid tbh lol

#

how do i purge history of a light?

high token
#

there's a purge_entities call service

jaunty ice
#

oh is that in the command line?

#

i don't have SSH set up yet

high token
#

no it's a call service 😛

#

and you should

#

devtools --> Services

jaunty ice
#

well i did it to the light group in my living room, still shows on as the last state

high token
#

it might tak some time to complete

jaunty ice
#

i did devices instead of entities

high token
#

usually CPU spikes while deleting the states

jaunty ice
#

or does that not matter?

#

anyways yeah it now shows no history

high token
#

no that's fine either way works

#

it should stay that way now

#

hopefully 😄

jaunty ice
#

i'll check tomorrow lol

#

or well today but later

hearty summit
#

Can anyone help me get an IP for my Raspberry PI 4 64 bit fresh instal

shell lark
hearty summit
#

The leases are good, should I be checking for a specific range?

still owl
hasty owl
#

any changes to required hardware (mem/cpu/disk) as new features are added?

#

i am running a vm with 8 gigs and i'm up to 60% usage

humble mirage
#

Maybe... depends on what features you use

#

Given that HA itself can run on a Pi3 though...

hasty owl
#

guess that is question what is the 'features' --> 'memory' requirements

#

i am not running much (I don't think) - heaviest thing is probably mqtt server

humble mirage
#

Well, it really depends on what integrations you use, and what other software you run. No two HA installs are going to be the same

#

If you use more integrations, and install more software, you'll need more resources

hasty owl
#

understood no two will be the same - just curious because i have to reboot this thing every couple days as the memory hits 80/90% used

#

and i'm not sure why because i would have expected it to be more static

humble mirage
#

Well, depends on what you mean by memory usage

hasty owl
#

and i cannot run vscode either - cpu/memory get chewed up in matter of an hour or so

#

well I'm running in proxmox and the first time i hit this threshold and went to console it was killing processes

#

so i know it's not a "it's not really using it" type scenario

#

otherwise it wouldn't be killing processes to free up memory

#

and running on pi vs vm

#

isn't apples to apples i know and that is what i'm trying to understand

#

do i need more resources on a vm as it's optimized for pi

humble mirage
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You need to track down what's causing it - which is likely either an add-on (VSCode is RAM heavy) or a custom component

hasty owl
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well vscode was fine until my last update then it started to hammer cpu/memory and i had to track that down and then disabled it

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so can't run that add-on anymore - now just trying to see how i can figure out why memory creeps other than shutting down add-ons

humble mirage
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Make sure to report the issues with VSCode if you haven't already

high token
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Are you also basing that on RAM usage reported by the Proxmox hypervisor or by sensors in HA so inside the VM itself?

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there's several reports of incorrect reporting of RAM usage in the Proxmox dashboard

hasty owl
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well at first I thought it was proxmox - but when i went to console it was actively killing processes which required me to reboot the vm

high token
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Oh I see the graph

hasty owl
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that was when i discovered vscode issue - since then it generally is around 30% to start and slowly increases over time

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i run 5 other vm's in proxmox and honestly didn't have this issue until recent upgrade

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i been running for months clean on this build

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and this is the only vm with this issue

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why i was wondering if the code is more optimized for pi?

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and is it just i need more resources running in proxmox

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also i was looking for ways to trace memory but limited in haas

crude inlet
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it isn't optimized for pi, not in the way you are thinking anyway

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and you aren't using the pi image for your vm

hasty owl
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oh okay

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nooo

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i did generic x86-64 isntall

crude inlet
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8GB should be more than enough. camera streams, vscode, glances...there are probably add-ons adding to resource usage

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or you're running dev lol

hasty owl
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nooo...lol...i made that mistake once had to rebuild

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guess i'll just watch it and try to figure out what could be so resource hungry because i really don't have much running don't think, not compared to some other folks i see

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thanks for all the feedback

cobalt jay
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"If you use Home Assistant Operating System, you can find configuration.yaml in the /config folder of the installation."

This seems to be lie as /config doesn't exist

steel sky
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Where are you looking?

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Also, look up Hanlon's razor. Just general life advice.

cobalt jay
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Just installed Home Assistant 7.5 -> login to exit the ha CLI -> cd /config

high token
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a few sentences above the screenshot there, it's suggesting you use one of the addons (VSCODE, File Editor, SAMBA) to get to the files

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or even plain SSH if you prefer that (but the addon)

cobalt jay
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Ah, is /config part of some containerised version of Home Assistant and not the OS itself?

steel sky
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Probably, yes.

high token
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Unless you have a specific reason to be at the host shell you shouldn't be there really

cobalt jay
crude inlet
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@cobalt jay everything is in containers. HA, all add-ons, and the supervisor...all separate containers

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To edit config and anything in it, you need to configure access first

gusty venture
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Hi everyone, I'm new in the HA experience and still learning stuff... I need a little help with the auto restart of H.A. in case of temporary power failure. I'm running a W10 machine with HA via Virtual Box, I know how to add VB in startup in case on pc restarts, but is there a way to also power on H.A. without me connecting remotely and having to press the start button?

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Kind regards, ConteleBerula

hasty oxide
gusty venture
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Much appreciate it clarjon1, as a total noob didn't knew VB can do that

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Thank you for your headsup

hasty oxide
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no worries. just as a heads up, dunno what Oracle did but that page makes chrome lag out my machine when loading it for a few minutes

gusty venture
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time to make a coffe and start read

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aye

hasty oxide
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May want to get that page loading before you go off to make coffee so it's responsive when you get back 😉

gusty venture
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will do 👍

gusty venture
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found an easier way looks like VBOX allows me to right click on HA and actually create a shortcut of HA machine and the just dump in it W10 startup... didn't manage to take a sip of my coffe

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😀

jovial rampart
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You more than likely shouldn’t be running supervised if you can’t install it @haughty needle

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and especially if you do not know what a .gz file is

haughty needle
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Maybe so, but I figured this is the place to learn. @jovial rampart

brazen herald
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There's a difference between "learning how things work" and "taking the hard path whilst ignoring all the big warning signs that say you're on your own"

jovial rampart
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@haughty needle , learn docker, learn home assistant, learn zwave, learn zigbeee, learn automations. There is tons to learn without going the supervised route.

nocturne kindle
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is this the correct image for an i7 , 64bit architecture.
i'd prefer a non netinstall tho

debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst

humble mirage
nocturne kindle
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getting a full download as it will only take a few minutes

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you're a great guy Tinkerer. i really appreciate your help

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"writing" the image to an usb stick

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balenaEtcher ftw

nocturne kindle
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what do i do when it wants the dvd while i used usb as media ?

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i'm trying to install the dependencies

humble mirage
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If you'd used the netinst image you wouldn't have had that question 😛

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Doesn't matter though, you can mount the USB instead of the DVD

nocturne kindle
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irc , internet relay chat......brings back memories

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lol

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i'll try there but usb isn't showing when doing fdisk -l

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finally

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lol at first i mounted it as usb....should've been cdrom....

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takes some tinkering

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fun....the debian has no release file

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throws laptop in bin

olive star
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Hello guys, i have got intel core 2 duo 4gb ram and 256 ssd with a good price and want to use it for HA. Should I buy? Please share me ur experience with it.

humble mirage
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What's the model of the CPU?

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Odds are that the spec should be good enough, but Core 2 Duo launched in 2006...

olive star
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Let me check it

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Its dell optiplex, DOS, core 2 duo, 2.1Ghz, 2 processors

humble mirage
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A model would help, but .. that's probably going to be ok

olive star
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I want to use like 4 cameras with motioneye

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I think that the model, is there another thing left?

humble mirage
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That's likely to struggle with motion detection though, unless you're using low resolution streams

olive star
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Checked it, it E4500 model

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So for using with camera core i3 is the min right?

humble mirage
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If you're using cameras with low resolution streams, and are doing motion detection on that stream, then you can get away with something like the Core 2 Duo for 2 cameras, maybe 4.

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I'd also suggest you look at Frigate instead, which adds object detection, but does really require a Coral board/stick to get the best out of it

olive star
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Ok I will try it, thanks

olive star
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It works in docker as motioneye right? I have got docker image by /blakeblackshear

humble mirage
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Frigate? Yes

nocturne kindle
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this kpoppf guy is realy something

weary quest
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Hello everyone, I just installed HA about 30 minutes ago on a raspberry pi4, first time. Actually I still on "preparing HA" screen. Is this normal ?

crude inlet
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@weary quest using ethernet?

weary quest
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Yes

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Followed up this

crude inlet
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Click on the blue dot. Do you see anything there?

weary quest
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I was looking for log

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22-03-24 16:09:00 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete

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Last line..

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Actually

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Clicking on the blue dots seems to solve...

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I just moved to the next step thanks @crude inlet

crude inlet
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Watching the pot makes the water boil I guess

proud aurora
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Good evening.
I would like to import my zigbee gateway into local tuya.
Installed and configured on the App correctly.
Found on the net by the localtuya App
But when I enter the requested data, he replies:

Connection to device succeeded but no datapoint found. Please try again.

Being a simple gateway, it seems correct to me that it does not have DP.
How do I get it recognized in HA (without using Tuya integration)?

humble mirage
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What is the gateway? the ZBbridge?

turbid rapids
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Hey! I suspect my SD card is starting to give up.. updating takes forever and some times they wont update at all. But if I want to use HASSOS on my Rasp Pi using an external drive (think I have one laying around), do I just flash the Hassos to that drive using Balena Etcher just as when I used it to flash to the SD Card? And then just plug it into a free USB port on my Rasp Pi?

unkempt crow
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which raspberry pi are you using?

turbid rapids
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The 3 one!

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According to system info everything looks fine

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just that part of SD cards not working

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seems to be a common problem

unkempt crow
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ok with the pi3 i don't know my way around but with the pi4 i had to change the boot order via firmware flash

turbid rapids
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oh ok

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how do I do that? shouldnt it be the same on a 3?

unkempt crow
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the pi just has to know that it should boot via usb

turbid rapids
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ok and there's no easy way of doing that then?

unkempt crow
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which pi3 do you have exactly?

turbid rapids
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Bought it some years ago but didnt really use it. I think it's a 3 model B

jovial rampart
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The 3B+ should do usb boot natively

unkempt crow
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that's exactly why I asked

turbid rapids
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Okay So I dont have to change anything?

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not sure what natively boot means 🙂

unkempt crow
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you don't have to do anything if you have the 3b+

jovial rampart
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Instructions for both

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If it just boots…..rock on. If it doesn’t, set the bit

turbid rapids
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Ah okay. Thank you!

unkempt crow
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correct

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but it may be that balena etcher complains because it is a hard drive

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but it should work

turbid rapids
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Ah ok! just give her a slap and she stop complain? 😛

jovial rampart
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Shouldn’t complain one bit.

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Go do it. You aren’t going to hurt anything

turbid rapids
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but if I want to restore my backup.. do I just start with the install the hassio google backup and load my latest backup and run it?

jovial rampart
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Keep your sd card in case things go bad

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Image your sd card using win32imager to a usb drive. If you ran rasbian you could actually copy the sd card to a connected usb, take out the sd card and boot to the usb drive.

turbid rapids
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Ok cool will try that! Thx

unkempt crow
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Doesn't home assistant now have the copy function too?

jovial rampart
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No idea. The sd card copier in raspberry os is pretty slick. I use it to back up my usb drive.

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Can copy from usb to sd and sd to usb.

unkempt crow
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you can move the data medium in the supervisor

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at the three points at host

turbid rapids
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ah right!

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the upload backup there right?

unkempt crow
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I switched to ssd when it wasn't there

turbid rapids
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right

unkempt crow
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if that doesn't work, it's best to do a clean setup and then import the backup

jovial rampart
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I don’t do hassos but the backup is just a zip file correct.

turbid rapids
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its a .tar file

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but looks like a zip file

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Is 500 SSD drive more than enough? 😛

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500gb*

jovial rampart
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I like to image my drives for backups so I keep them to a minimum. Prob not an issue with hassos

unkempt crow
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if you put a lot of music, pictures or videos on it, it should be enough

high token
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its more like a .tar that has inside a .tar.gz that has inside a .tar 😅

jovial rampart
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It’s a zip 🤣 but it isn’t

turbid rapids
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zip zap! :p

grand pivot
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It's turtles all the way down

rare roost
#

I currently have HAOS running in a VBOX, but I also run docker on a separate machine. is there benefit to move HA to a docker container? what functionality will I lose?

turbid rapids
#

Should I go for a SSD or a HDD drive?

jovial rampart
unkempt crow
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an 64gb ssd should do the work

jovial rampart
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I had problems getting an ssd to boot.

unkempt crow
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i have an 128gb one but it ist almost empty

rare roost
jovial rampart
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No….TACOS

high token
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You won't exactly get SSD speeds on a pi3 since it's only usb2

turbid rapids
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and with HDD I get a lot more storage for the money

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So better to just go for a cheap HDD with tons of storage?

unkempt crow
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if you need the lots of storage

high token
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Doubt you really need that much storage

turbid rapids
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I get like 2TB HDD for the price of 500Mb SSD :p

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yeha guess I dont need it 😛

rare roost
#

A'Tuin the World Turtle

turbid rapids
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who last longest? SSD or HDD?

humble mirage
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Largely irrelevant

jovial rampart
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There should be a study.

humble mirage
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There's been more than one

jovial rampart
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Prob inconclusive.

humble mirage
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The results are usually it doesn't matter

turbid rapids
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hehe ok

jovial rampart
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I’ve had ssd randomly go and well as spinning rust 🤷🏼

high token
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this reminds me

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need to backup my SSD OSes

jovial rampart
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Just lost an m.2 nvme after only 2 years

high token
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(what is the plural of OS?) 🤔

jovial rampart
#

Taco

humble mirage
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Ossssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

trail ferry
#

Just upgraded to core-2022.3.7 and have a few new errors in the log.

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"2022-03-24 18:28:15 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.frame] Detected code that uses str for device registry entry_type. This is deprecated and will stop working in Home Assistant 2022.3, it should be updated to use DeviceEntryType instead. Please report this issue."

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how can I tell what it's referring to?

grand pivot
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there may be some info messages above that indicating what was being loaded

winged moon
#

How do I access the full logs? My instance keeps going unresponsive (I've had to reboot twice so far) but the logs when I reboot only show a handful of entries related to the boot process so I can't see if there's anything about why the device stopped responding

grand pivot
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From ssh. There will be a home-assistant.log.1 from the last run

winged moon
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Thanks. I'll go give it a power cycle and have a look at that one

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I feel this Pi3 might be on its last legs

placid sage
#

Hey guys, how are you? I am a complete beginner with HA, I just installed in the raspberry pi running debian. Got sme problems with the grub but they are solved I suppose. Now I am trying to access the web interface with my Ip address and

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cannot connect

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any thoughts?

dawn flame
#

What IP address are you trying to use?

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if your trying to use pcname.local or something like that, stop it. use the actual address. Something like 192.168.1.100:8123....

humble mirage
gloomy ledge
#

Hi, Do we depend to internet for installation or is there any offline installation method?

humble mirage
#

Yes, you need it to download the Docker images (for three of the install methods) and also for any required Python libraries

#

Once that's done you can disconnect from the Internet, at least until it's time to update or you want to use a new integration

quaint arrow
#

Need some help. I replaced my old fan with a new model. The old fan had a light switch and a fan switch. The new fan only need one switch that turn the unit on and off. I need to use the remote to control the fan speed and lights that can also be dimmed. I want to be able to control the light and fan from the wall switch. Can some one guide me?

spring nymph
#

what kind of remote is it?

quaint arrow
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@spring nymph wifi

spring nymph
jovial rampart
#

@quaint arrow , my guess is that fan still has independent wires for the light. Not sure what your ultimate goal is but you should still be able to allow the light and fan to have its own individual switch. That being said, if you don’t know what you are doing you should prob at least confer with an electrician

sage gulch
#

Since I installed HAOS on ESXi, it's not registering the host name with my local DNS. Are there any likely idiot traps I could have fallen into please?

timid shoal
#

Been searching and reading history here for a while now. Set up HA on a Rasp Pi 4 following the guide. It's connected via ethernet, I can ping it, I get the "Preparing Home Assistant" screen and I've waited a half hour and tried a reboot to be sure then waited 45 minutes and tried another reboot. Back around the 30 minute mark again. Is the consensus that I should just wait longer?

grand pivot
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You should click the blue dot

pine pivot
#

hi guys, just installed HA. any idea why i can access HA on my laptop but not on my iphone safari or ios HA app? it says server stop responding.

jovial rampart
#

Logs? Are you trying to connect from your internal network or external?

onyx lantern
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Hello Guys,
I'm trying to install HA in RPI3B+ for the last three days but repeatedly getting the following error. Any Suggestion?
Raspberry Pi 3B+
MMC : 16GB/128GB Class 10
Logs : https://justpaste.it/8z1u4

turbid pilot
#

Really weird issue I'm running Hassos in ESXI 6.7 and I'm trying to expose two NICs to home assistant. Only one at a time is working, I can add the same two network cards on another host and they both show up and get an IP address via DHCP. But when I add both NIC pointed to different vlans in Hass it is not getting a DHCP reservation for one of the two nics. Anyone happen to run into this before?

high token
#

if you also have DNS blocking like Pihole/Adguard it can also affect sometimes

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in most cases manually setting the DNS server to 9.9.9.9 or 1.1.1.1 helps

high token
turbid pilot
#

I've had no issues with it in Vmware workstation, Mdns and device discovery even worked across different vlans.

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I suppose the difference is that in VMware I was using a separate physical bridged nic.

sick thunder
#

Does anyone know how to force a supervisor upgrade? I rolled to a dev branch, went back to stable, but the supervisor won't upgrade from dev branch.

grand pivot
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Usage:
  ha supervisor update [flags]

Aliases:
  update, upgrade, downgrade, up, down

Examples:

  ha supervisor update
  ha supervisor update --version 173

Flags:
  -h, --help             help for update
      --version string   Version to update to
high token
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it will say there's no update available

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right?

sick thunder
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Correct

high token
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Yeah encountered this before. Unsure why

#

you can't actually downgrade. But you are supposed to be able to "update" to whatever is considered latest on each channel

sick thunder
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Yeah, the only way to technically downgrade when I needed to was swap channels

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But I can't seem to get to the latest on the stable shannel now

left kraken
#

Anyone can tell me what's wrong? HACS component causes trouble?

grand pivot
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either github is having issues, or you're having issues getting to it:
aiohttp.client_exceptions.ClientConnectorError: Cannot connect to host api.github.com:443 ssl:default [Try again]

high token
sick thunder
#

Haha

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I am trying to swap to beta and see what happens

high token
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Someone else had the same issue some time ago and I got exactly the same. I tried going to stable (I'm running dev) but couldn't "update" either

sick thunder
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Trying to file the bug

sick thunder
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Not sure if that is enough information since its my first time logging.

high token
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looks fine agooglethumbsup

left kraken
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And this one:? ```Logger: homeassistant
Source: runner.py:98
First occurred: 18:37:23 (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 18:37:23

Error doing job: Task was destroyed but it is pending!```

grand pivot
#

that's a problem with an integration, usually

#

but not necessarily a fatal one. The Harmony integration does that once for each hub

sick thunder
#

I've also been getting weird errors around the sensor season. Started happening after a hardware upgrade but the config didn't change. The following integrations and platforms could not be set up: Season.

Logger: homeassistant.setup
Source: setup.py:162
First occurred: 2:43:04 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 2:43:04 PM

Setup failed for season: No setup or config entry setup function defined.

The weird thing is that season appears to be there and working.

mighty reef
#

My Home assistant unable to connect. That's 3rd time in one weak now. Home assistant is installed on NUC Proxmox 6.3 VM. Can be crashing caused by Proxmox 6.3 is a old version and I have to install Proxmox 7 ?

glossy kernel
#

how would I set up a wifi connection? the device I want to use does not have ethernet

onyx lantern
winged moon
#

Can anyone link me to a guide on how to USB boot HA on a Pi? I think my SD card is nearly dead so I'm going to swap to a spare USB HDD for boot

jovial rampart
#

Which model pi @winged moon

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And which install method

winged moon
jovial rampart
#

So? HassOS? And it’s a big difference between a 3 and a 3b+.

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A 3b+ can usb boot natively, a 3b needs a bit set.

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And you should be able to just use the pi sd copier to copy the sd card to the usb drive if running raspberry os. If running hassos apparently it has a similar function but I run the docker install so can’t help any further on that point.

winged moon
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Running HassOS (and not worried about a fresh install, it's mostly for testing until we move to our new place).

And yeah, pretty sure its a 3b, not a plus so I have to set the bit in the OTP

hardy forge
#

Hello, I'm trying to install HA on an old Nexus 7 tablet following this guide:
https://github.com/alexanderhale/home-assistant

I have now hit a wall and don't know how to resolve my issue.
This occurs after initiating "pip install homeassistant".

https://imgur.com/a/e8qnraQ

I have upgraded and made sure that pip, rustc and cargo are updated and installed.

I have tried to find out how to successfully set the CARGO_BUILD_TARGET, but that has not yielded any success.

Can anyone here offer any guidance?

humble mirage
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Yeah... don't do that

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If you're going to go for a totally unsupported install, then you're assumed to have the skills required to troubleshoot problems

hardy forge
#

i thought i did but apparently not, but i dont feel like giving up just yet, yes i saw that issue too

humble mirage
#

You need to use the full error output, and any log files, to find the underlying issue and then fix it

#

Their problem is pretty obvious

hardy forge
humble mirage
#

Did you read the issue?

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Search it for error

hardy forge
#

well yes, that is why i sent the print screen. and as i have stated: "I have tried to find out how to successfully set the CARGO_BUILD_TARGET, but that has not yielded any success."

humble mirage
#

Yeah, I don't bother with images of text

abstract hearthBOT
#

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

humble mirage
#

The issue post clearly has:

error: can't find Rust compiler
hardy forge
#

rust is installed, version 1.59

humble mirage
#

Right, and ... you didn't read the error line?

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error: Don't know the correct rust target for system type arm-unknown-linux-androideabi. Please set the CARGO_BUILD_TARGET environment variable.
hardy forge
#

and once again ... "I have tried to find out how to successfully set the CARGO_BUILD_TARGET, but that has not yielded any success."

humble mirage
#

Well,setting it would be

export CARGO_BUILD_TARGET="something"
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What something would be is a Cargo specific thing

abstract hearthBOT
humble mirage
#

Then I just did a little clicking

hardy forge
#

oh crap, I had gotten the target list previously from
rustc --print targetlist
and i thought i had done the export but apparently not (or done wrong). thank u!

quasi stream
#

Today I restarted my Debian machine running a HA Supervised installation (Docker). Because of the new Debian Bullseye release (11.3), some things broke on my system (ZFS for example) but I managed to fix them. After trying to connect to HA ("no connection"), I realised that almost (hassio_observer is still there) all of my HA related Docker containers were missing from docker ps and now I don't know what to do. docker images still shows all of them but the containers are gone...

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I used the HA Supervised installation script to install HA back then. As far as I could see, all of the relevant data in /usr/share/hassio/ is still there. Is there a way to bring everything back up?

ionic lodge
#

I know this forum is for folks who build this out themselves, but I have other projects I am focusing on too much right now. Is there anyone who would be willing to help me build out some basic integrations (including setting up the base unit) between Ubiquiti and Alexa Show 10? I just don't have the time to read/learn/experiment and would actually be willing to pay for the advice to just get it up and running. I started, but the wife asked if I finished (I got stuck) so now its back at the top of the list.

humble mirage
#

You'll find a few posts on the forum from people who offer that kind of service. If you're really lucky then they may actually know what they're doing.

grand pivot
#

If they don't, they might just come here and ask the questions for you

brazen herald
#

Honestly, unless you have a crystal clear list of requirements, you'll spend as much time answering someone's questions as you do setting it up yourself.

worn rover
#

Am I able to use a laptop (Wi-Fi) to create a bridge ? KVM setup on Ubuntu server

#

Been stuck all day

#

It boots in kvm fine but the best I’ve been able to do was have home assistant work on my local machine but not for the rest of the household

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I.e installed gnome on server laptop and could browse to homeassistant.local:8123

#

Any tips places to loook at? Is it doable with Wi-Fi adapter only no Ethernet

#

I know it’s not optimal

ionic ginkgo
#

What is the best way to backup the entirety of a Docker container setup so I can move it to a different machine?

grand pivot
#

Back up your config folder including all hidden directories like .storage. That's it