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ashen charm
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attachments are downloading

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over greenland now so wifi is junk

brittle sail
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I thought planes had starlink or some decent air fiber stuff nowadays

ashen charm
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news to me

low notch
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LORA it is

ashen charm
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pretty sure pigeon net has a faster data transfer rate

brittle sail
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Guess it’s just a proof of concept thing

copper steppe
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I think it's more than a POC. It's been properly sold, hasn't it?

brittle sail
ashen charm
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the 10.0 callgrind actually looks better than than 9.5 one

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so the problem is likely outside of core (which makes sense)

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but was still worth a look

copper steppe
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Given that HAOS was changed, and not core... how different were the kernel versions? I haven't gone though the release change log, but I wouldn't know what I was looking for

ashen charm
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5.15 -> 6.1 if I recall correctly

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starlink_grpc is surprisingly expensive as well

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almost looks like its doing blocking I/O in the event loop

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something calling async_get_data is taking the bulk of the time

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query in file called network.py

copper steppe
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I feel like maybe the profiling tools are not dealing with async io too well. I'm 90% sure tplink_ess is all asyncio

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I used qcachegrind and snakeviz

ashen charm
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the profiler only profiles the event loop

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you need py-spy if you want the other threads

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112x calls to recvfrom taking 18% of the run time seems suspect

manic bane
copper steppe
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Hmm, although the underlying library has async methods, it's still using self.s_socket.sendto() and self.receive_socket()) which is probably synchronous

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I'll raise an issue against the lib, so we can look into that. cc @wicked rivet

ashen charm
ashen charm
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its all sync

manic bane
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Even if they can only manage 10mbps per passenger on average, would go a long way to making flights better for communication, etc

ashen charm
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no loop.create_datagram_endpoint or setblocking

copper steppe
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Yup, I was just rtfm on async io datagrams in python

ashen charm
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but thats likely not the cpu problem

copper steppe
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Agreed

ashen charm
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all the code can be used with hass.async_add_executor_job

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but better to convert it to asyncio

copper steppe
copper steppe
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ANything sticking out with that issue bdraco? I don't even know where to look.

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I don't know how I'd use py-spy with HAOS which is the issue I was originally investigating...

brittle sail
celest quartz
jolly orchid
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hello! I'm helping out a friend (who is not technical .. and I am "somewhat" technical) .. for him to test out Homeassistant. We already bought the zigbee/zwave dongle for him. I personally use a Windows Server (used as a plex + blue iris) and put my own HA in a vmware workstation instance, which is working fine for me. I have a decent hardware that allowed me to do that. For him, its just an old laptop which is very limited.

I'm thinking of doing a Proxmox and put HA on a VM there. Then probably put a Windows VM for blue iris (just incase he wants to do that) OR put a Frigate on LXC.

My question is -- is HA in Proxmox any good? Can you install Addons like MQTT, HACS, etc? That is how I do it in my own HA vmware.

humble mirage
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It's fine to do that

grand pivot
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Presumably you're installing HAOS in the VM, so yes, it supports addons

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HACS not being an addon, it works in any installation type

jolly orchid
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alright cool . thank you!

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its the qcow2 format probably in proxmox

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I mean in HA .. the qcow2 format VM Ill be using in Proxmox

vestal roost
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Hi, q question regarding moving from http to https. Am I in the right place?

crude inlet
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you can just ask, and will be sent to the right place if not

vestal roost
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OK. All works fine while I'm running on HTTP.

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a port forward from ext to int 8123 to the right IP was created and worked OK (also on my iPhone App).

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Using duckdns ofcourse.

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Now moving to HTTPS using Let's Encrypt, was done OK ( now internally I'm using the same local URL https://192.168.2.117:8123)

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A port forward from ext 8123 ---> to int 8123 updated to to ext 443 ---> to int 8123, just wont work.

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Do I miss something ?

low notch
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use a proxy to do the ssl communication, run HA in plain http

vestal roost
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@low notch can you please explain ?

low notch
karmic cairn
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When did Home assistant completely block for the supervised version to run on raspbian?

humble mirage
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Many many months ago

karmic cairn
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but why?

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It worked?

humble mirage
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Because it's not supported

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And hasn't been for years

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Yet... people ignore that, get themselves stuck, and blame the devs

karmic cairn
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I have a version running version 2022.6.6, so it cant be that long ago?

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So you cant run home assistant on raspberrys anymore?

humble mirage
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Sure you can

karmic cairn
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unless you use normal debain

humble mirage
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You cannot run Supervised

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Use HAOS, or use Container

karmic cairn
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Well then I dont have access to all of the addons?

humble mirage
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HAOS does

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HAOS is what you should be using if you want add-ons

crude inlet
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HAOS is the original project with add-ons. Not "supervised"

karmic cairn
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yea but from what I understand it doesn't have all of the features as raspbian?

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I use my rasberry for other containers too

crude inlet
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Now you're on a swing. Pick what you want.

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If you want control over containers then choose a docker install and forget add-ons

karmic cairn
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okay thanks

heady anvil
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does home assistant core have plugins

grand pivot
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There are no plugins

fiery shuttle
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I'm on the installation step to Write the Image to your Boot Medium. I'm using a live Ubuntu USB stick. I ran the command to add the HAOS boot section but it doesn't show up in the target list of Etcher. When I select the Windows drive it gives me a warning about the system drive and fails when I try to flash it. I'm on a usff PC. Any ideas what I need to do?

fiery shuttle
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I went ahead and installed Ubuntu on the PC and it's still giving me the warning when I select the primary hard drive and it fails when I tell it to go ahead. What am I missing?

queen ermine
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what is problem?

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[info] Install AppArmor scripts
[info] Start Home Assistant Supervised
[info] Installing the 'ha' cli
[info] Within a few minutes you will be able to reach Home Assistant at:
[info] http://homeassistant.local:8123 or using the IP address of your
[info] machine: http://192.168.20.239:8123
╭─   ~                                                 18.02s    09:07:24   
╰ ping localhost:8123
ping: localhost:8123: Name or service not known
╭─   ~                                                            09:27:02   
╰ ping 192.168.20.239:8123
ping: 192.168.20.239:8123: Name or service not known
humble mirage
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Is this a HAOS or Supervised install?

queen ermine
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sudo apt update
# install available updates
sudo apt upgrade -y
# install some prerequisites
sudo apt install jq wget curl udisks2 libglib2.0-bin network-manager dbus -y
# install docker
curl -fsSL https://get.docker.com | sudo sh
# download home assistant os-agent
wget https://github.com/home-assistant/os-agent/releases/download/1.2.2/os-agent_1.2.2_linux_x86_64.deb
# install home assistant os-agent
sudo dpkg -i os-agent_1.2.2_linux_x86_64.deb
# download home assistant package
wget https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer/releases/latest/download/homeassistant-supervised.deb
# install home assistant
sudo dpkg -i homeassistant-supervised.deb```
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i followed above intsructions.

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i am working on linux mint

low notch
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bad instructions

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there is a big warning regarding the only linux distro for supervised in the official instructions

humble mirage
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Mint isn't supported for Supervised... don't do that

queen ermine
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how to install correctly

humble mirage
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Do you want to run other software on that computer, or are you happy to dedicate it to Home Assistant?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@broken meadow I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
humble mirage
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After you set that, did you restart HA?

vestal roost
broken meadow
low notch
plush crag
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so my home assistant suddenly decided not to properly boot anymore so I checked the SD card and bam a ton of failed sectors, I think I made a proper copy of the card using ddrescue but it accidentally aborted while trimming the backup, now I want to know why some big region of the card just got obliterated and if I should just clone it to another card or stop using an SD card altogether

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I am using a raspberry pi 3b with a 32gb Kingston SD card

low notch
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sd cards are not meant to be used as a pc hard drive

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flashing the sd and restoring a backup is probably your fastest choice

plush crag
low notch
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Um no i mean your config backup, no need for a full disk backup but if thats what you have then that is also in there

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A pi3 is really the minimum, i run on a pi4 with nfs boot from nvme and also hit the limits with my rather big but very optimized setup

copper steppe
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It doesn't need to be dedicated. HA runs perfectly fine as a VM (or container maybe) in another host OS

ionic cave
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Hey guys, I'm doing a small project, im a beginner, and i could use some help with floor3d plan, can anyone help me with some issue, real quick...? It would mean alot...

wind adder
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lo, nebbie needing advice, using rpi4 4 /w gigs ram, debian 11, installed docker and HA containered. I plan to uses ESP8266 Wifi Relays to control the lighting in the house I'm building. It appears I might want to start over and install HAOS for supervisor. Any thoughts or advice?

ionic cave
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Ne treba mi pomoc

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Pametan sam.

wind adder
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chirp chirp.....

copper steppe
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if you don't need the box for anything else, HAOS is way easier

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And be careful with using sd-card for storage: HA includes a database (sqllite) which is very hard on sd-cards, and they will ultimately fail. Better to use a ssd.

light talon
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Hi. I'm just getting started with HA. I've installed the server and the HA app on an Android and iPhone. The app works well on Android but fails on my iPhone. Here is a screenshot of the HA app config points on my phone: Location: Always; Local Network: ON; Motion & Fitness: ON; Focus: ON; Backgroup App Refresh: ON; Cellular Data: ON; Allow Cross-Website Tracking: OFF. Any pointers here?

copper steppe
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You should probably describe what you mean by "fails"

light talon
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OK, HA isn't being updated with my location. Also, both the Android and my iPhone are showing up as Devices but only the Android is showing up as a Mobile App in Integrations and my iPhone isn't.

plush crag
plush crag
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doesn't boot

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alright I'll get the config out of there

humble mirage
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Hey guys I m doing a small project im a

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lo nebbie needing advice using rpi4 4 w

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OK HA isn t being updated with my

loud sable
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It seems like the Home Assistant OS 10.1 (beta) is either not a beta or not released as beta. In the release notes it states that it is on the beta channel but it looks like it isn't.

humble mirage
loud sable
humble mirage
loud sable
humble mirage
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We'll find out... I've flagged it up to the powers that be

loud sable
livid robin
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Update 10.0 to 10.1 failing

languid isle
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Is there a good guide on installing coturn for webrtc?

earnest crag
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I managed somehow to destroy my installation. Wanted to install beta in docker, after installation i got stuck on initializing mjpeg or sun or uptime. Tried to revert to latest image nothing changed. deleted all the config files and restored a backup from duplicati and got to onboarding page asking to add new user. did that and now every second i got a "a login attempt or request" from my laptop
anyone that can help?

humble mirage
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  1. It sounds like you didn't backup or restore .storage/ in your config folder, you want to check on that
  2. What's running on your laptop that's trying to log in?
earnest crag
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.storage is also included and restored

humble mirage
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Then you wouldn't have seen the onboarding page

earnest crag
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my laptop is running windows, i have cleared the cookies on chrome

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which files from .storage are critical to restore for no onboarding procedure? i see some of them are not reverted

humble mirage
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Anything to do with auth, I'm not 100% certain beyond that

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TBH "all" is safer

earnest crag
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so if the .storage folder is partially restored what can i save from my installation to have a running system and near to it's last running condition?

humble mirage
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Well, everything you do in the UI is written there...

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If "all" you've lost is the auth then I suspect everything else will be fine

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Mostly

earnest crag
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should i just restore everything except .storage?

humble mirage
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Why?

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You're not going to be any better off

earnest crag
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because now i can't have any good running system

humble mirage
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I'm curious how you managed a partial backup like that

earnest crag
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i'm also curius 😛

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it's through duplicati

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i backup my entire /home directory

humble mirage
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Is it running as a user other than root?

earnest crag
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i was pretty sure that it was running on root but it seems not

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i will just restore my .yaml files and see if everything works

humble mirage
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Well, nothing you set up in the UI will work

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Including every integration you set up in the UI

earnest crag
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i still get: Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from DESKTOP-VKVJSG0.fritz.box (192.168.178.45). See the log for details.

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that's my laptop

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and of course safe mode

humble mirage
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So... something is running there, some agent or other software

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Did you install the Android app?

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Something else?

earnest crag
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agent was the ke

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key

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hass agent

earnest crag
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where in .storage are the helpers stored?

humble mirage
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core.config_entries or core.entity_registry probably

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(or both)

coral plank
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hey everyone, got a few questions. tried installing HAOS on Proxmox, which is running in Debian 11. Tteck's script to install completed but I still can't access HAOS landing page, any thoughts?

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I'm not exactly sure if it was properly installed or it's an issue with my settings with the network bridge

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Noticed I cant access UI or observer URL

raven forge
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You might want to share some screenshots and information of your setup. Summary, Hardware, Console, Console after typing network info, etc
Maybe also the System -> Network page of your node and ip a from its Shell if you're concerned the node's setup is wrong

coral plank
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ah sure! one step at a time haha I'm quite new to this

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heh, guess I can't upload photos

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

coral plank
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That was somehow more complicated than I expected haha

raven forge
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I'm confused. I wanted to see screenshots of proxmox's web interface. Did you install proxmox on a desktop OS?

coral plank
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i installed proxmox within Debian 11

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i can't as of right now completely wipe my drive so i went this way

raven forge
coral plank
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sure, i can do that

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Thanks

coral plank
raven forge
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That looks okay to me. Did you try http://192.168.100.29:8123?
If that doesn't work, can you show me the output of the ip a command and the /etc/network/interfaces file of the host

coral plank
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the ethernet connection has been giving me issues, on reboot it looses configuration and the host at times can't connect to outside internet or anything so I have to reconfigure, not sure if it is due to my static configuration within GUI network settings of Debian

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guess I could just go back to DHCP on that

raven forge
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My guess is that the desktop environment uses network manager or similar instead of the interfaces file and sets different things which conflict.
The interfaces file has no ip defined for the bridge, for example, and vmbr0 has no ip assigned either in ip a's output.
See the link above for an example how it "should" look like

coral plank
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I think I could make both /etc/network/interfaces file and what the network manager is doing in the background and reboot

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I'll base it on the link you sent

raven forge
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Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the gnome GUI (at least looks like it) so I'm not sure how exactly it configures the network

coral plank
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heh it sort of not worked at all

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had to delete all the config and try again, lost connection to proxmox server on host

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ah I remembered I switch NetworkManager config to allow unmanaged networks to be managed. Switched that back to false, and even though my /etc/network/interfaces file is correct, I think during the installation of proxmox-ve it removed ifupdown and now I can't reinstall it

raven forge
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Why not? Proxmox recommends ifupdown2, btw

coral plank
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Let me try with ifupdown2

coral plank
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So far by remanaging with Network Manager, I could verify that ifupdown2 was already installed and up to date. So I changed back /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to managed=false and by deleting everything and rewriting the /etc/network/interfaces my host has access to internet again and server is up and running

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So ifupdown2 seems to be doing its job then

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update: when creating the bridge, i lose all communications except access to proxmox server even though all network devices are up in ip a

raven forge
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Can you show the ip a output and the interfaces file again. Might make sense to stop the network manager or configure it instead of that file. Not sure what happens if you use both

coral plank
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I'm having an issue right now that even though ifupdown2 is installed, i get a bash: ifreload: command not found error

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I deleted all info from the network manager and stopped the service from managing my network interfaces. After that with the use of /etc/network/interfaces I recovered connection to the internet from the host, but any attempt to configure the bridge breaks it

raven forge
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Try a ip in the 192.168.100.x range. Strange that ifreload fails

coral plank
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yup, fofr some reason ifupdown2 just doesn't wanna work properly haha just ifreload from time to time, and definitely doesn't work when all coms are down, I hve to reboot then to apply network changes

raven forge
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Try apt install --reinstall ifupdown2

coral plank
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That's how it looks now

coral plank
raven forge
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Yay

coral plank
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I swear I feel I went through a couple of these configurations once or twice and didn't work haha

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Oh man...thank a lot Impact!

covert jungle
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Greetings! I have an issue after the lastest (aprox. 2 days ago) update. I wonder if anyone can help me out.

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I never had any issues with updates, so as it appeared, I hit install. But it never came back online. I said np, I do a quick reinstall and restore the backup from google drive. In Windows, I format the drive and reinstalled the HA OS, and it booted w/o issue. Uploaded the backup file and hit restore and the same issue. It won't come back online. Tried to sever times in several configurations but had no luck.

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The hardware is a pi4 with ssd in an Argon case

raven forge
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Connect a monitor and keyboard and check what it says

covert jungle
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It's showing what is usually shown after a fresh install.

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on what IP can i access

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but can't connect to it, the observer link works fine

raven forge
covert jungle
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Somehow it booted, but I can't remember what I selected at the restore menu, I don't have the addons. I will try to restore those separatly from the backup, but sadly the system is still in startup state for minutes now

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I give him couple more minutes, I guess it's not advised to reboot it in this stage

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it looks like it's not fully starting because of these

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Invalid config
The following integrations and platforms could not be set up:

recorder (Show logs)
logbook (Show logs)
history (Show logs)
energy (Show logs)
default_config (Show logs)

Please check your config and logs.

and

Recorder
The recorder could not start, check the logs

fallen lichen
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What do the logs say?

covert jungle
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Since lots of addons are missing it's kinda messy.

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still stuck in "Restoring a backup is not possible right now because the system is in startup state."

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and can't access addons cause of 401 errors

fallen lichen
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Well yeah, recorder doesn't work because maria isn't there

covert jungle
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yep

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i try to install it, maybe it will start so i can restore

willow halo
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it seems that raspian and arch-arm do not have support for apparmor, which i need for hassio which i need for the addons menu
what do i do?

fallen lichen
willow halo
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i am trying to get the addons menu, but yes

fallen lichen
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That's Debian only

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If you want add-ons, you want HA OS

willow halo
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:/

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i apparently need the addons for using zigbee

fallen lichen
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You don't need them... if you do a Docker install, there are containers to run to host Z2M or whatever you want

willow halo
fallen lichen
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Right, that's for home assistant core itself

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What Zigbee software are you going to use

covert jungle
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progress

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Restoring addons from backup now

willow halo
# fallen lichen What Zigbee software are you going to use

no idea yet, any recommendations? i have a pre-existing raspi that is used but not heavily so (it does some minor automation scripts and a very small website) and now a sonoff 3.0 usb dongle, plus i bought and installed a smart Zigbee lightswitch. and kinda figured my years of python and linux experience would carry me through ^^ So far i am getting discouraged from how bad it feels to work with home assistant, it seems optimized for an entirely different culture :D i am doing my best to learn though

fallen lichen
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Have you excluded HA OS entirely? Presumably you're wanting to use your Pi for other things?

willow halo
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yup, i have a heavily customized arch running on there for all my other tasks, it just uses less than 10% ram and pretty much 0% cpu on average, so there should be enough room to run anything that runs on a normal raspi

fallen lichen
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Then yeah, you'll want to run Docker if you're going to use that same hardware

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I'd suggest Zigbee2MQTT, but I'm partial to that, as that's all I've ever used

willow halo
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sounds good enough :D

fallen lichen
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For that, you'll need an MQTT Broker and Zigbee2MQTT itself set up alongside Home Assistant

willow halo
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if so i will follow that

fallen lichen
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The actual docs for each piece of software would be best though

willow halo
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at least this is getting me some more familiarity with docker :D
i assume the /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB2.0-Serial-if00-port0:/dev/ttyACM from the guide is the coordinator, i have found my equivalent (/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20230220180004-if00) but it is missing the tty descriptor which teletypewrite am i using and why? (alternatively where can i read up on that?)

warped nimbus
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hello, i want to add a map of my house with this:Your HA Digital Twin floor3d-card downloaded with hacs . When i add my file and my folder gives me this error:http://paste.debian.net/1278882/ can someone have any idea: Thanks

fiery forge
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Anyone have any ideas why my full backups would fail for core? That is with built in backup. When I try and use Autobackup integration it says another backup is running, but there isn’t one running as far as I can see.

dark garnet
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Heads up if anyone uses Debian 11 + Docker and uses the /dev/serial/by-id to map their sticks seems a recent update to systemd from today broke this functionality. You have to update your configurations to reference /dev/ttyXXX or do some custom udev foo and make your own devices.

robust cypress
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good evening

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I am installing HA at proxmox

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do not complete

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is it not possible send screens here

brittle sail
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no you need to use imgur

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but you might not need a picture at all. what is your exact issue?

robust cypress
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the instalation does finish

brittle sail
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which install type? haos in a vm or docker container or lxc or?

robust cypress
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vm

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can you help me

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?

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please

brittle sail
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maybe you would be better with his installer for the VM image there

robust cypress
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just write this command

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at promox shell ?

brittle sail
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yeah

robust cypress
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my BIOS does not have support for virtalization

brittle sail
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Sucks

robust cypress
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do I have to change some itens after this script finish ?

brittle sail
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I’m not sure I run haos bare metal

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I don’t believe so

robust cypress
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download finished

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extractiing kvm disk image

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creating HAOS VM

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✓ Created HAOS VM (haos10.1)

  • Starting Home Assistant OS VM...KVM virtualisation configured, but not available. Either disable in VM configuration or enable in BIOS.

[ERROR] in line 430: exit code 255: while executing command qm start $VMID

brittle sail
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So you need to enable vtx/ vtd in bios or your shit is too old

robust cypress
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I disable KVM hardware virtualization at the VM created

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start again

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waiting....

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stop here

pastel sphinx
robust cypress
pastel sphinx
robust cypress
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😞

pastel sphinx
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If you can't run Proxmox, then you can bare metal install HAOS on the computer.

robust cypress
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how can I do it ?

pastel sphinx
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Just write HAOS to a USB stick (using something like Balena etcher), boot from the USB stick, and install HAOS.

robust cypress
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the BIOS at computer I am using does not support UEFI Boot mode i

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do you think it will work ?

pastel sphinx
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Just try it and see....I'm not sure.

robust cypress
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can I use ventoy?

fallen lichen
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UEFI is required for HA OS

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This hardware sounds ancient

pastel sphinx
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I agree..go to ebay or amazon used thin clients and spend $50-$100 on something more recent

robust cypress
amber iron
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you can even find something >50 if you know where to look

robust cypress
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I can use this hardware install debian 11 and after install HA with docker?

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do you have howto for it ?

pastel sphinx
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No I only do HA OS ..sorry

amber iron
# fallen lichen UEFI is required for HA OS

just a curiousity if you know the answer. im running ha through promox, but my proxmox decided to instal as legacy boot. my machine supports uefi, is that why im not having issues?i kinda woulda expected to have issues

fallen lichen
#

I can't say I know all of the details but the requirement for HA is just for itself, so if the VM is set up to boot UEFI, then you're fine even if Proxmox itself didn't boot that way

fallen lichen
amber iron
brittle sail
#

@robust cypress if you have money to spend it’s better to buy a mini pc or thin client depending on $ available

robust cypress
brittle sail
#

Otherwise starting out with docker is fine

robust cypress
brittle sail
#

Using anything

#

That tteck link above has premade docker lxc or container for hass

robust cypress
robust cypress
raven forge
#

No. HAOS has no bootable installer like that

runic venture
#

I recently installed HA to a NUC, away from a VirtualBox VM (I had constant thread hangs and desync errors that ruined reliability in VBox) and imported a full backup. Awesome! Everything works!
Except - trying to do updates, all but one of them fail with this line:
WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'HomeAssistantCore.update' blocked from execution, no host internet connection

  • There are no repairs available, including hidden
  • I have rebooted both soft and hardware
  • I have changed my internet settings from DHCP to static and set DNS servers and back without luck
#

On this last point - I have two devices in the NUC, en01 and WLP0S20F3, the latter I assume being the wireless card. I can't enable the device, it throws an immediate Unknown error, see supervisor logs, so if I am somehow using the wrong device, I'm not sure how to change that.
Anyone experienced anything like this or have some tips? My router isn't blocking the device as I can access it through LAN just fine, and all it is doing is giving HA a static IP (the same as it was doing on VBox).

#

(This didn't seem applicable to hardware, that seemed to be more about things to control with HA, but if i'm in the wrong place, i'll move)
HA is going through a simple switch to the router along with another device that has internet access, also.

#

Hopefully this log helps? Looks to my uneducated self like core.py has an error in calling the update API. (Go figure, idiot, I guess?)

Hopefully this gets line converted because I don't want to overload here too much

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@runic venture I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
runic venture
#

nice

#

I have updates for Core, Supervisor and two addons due, all throw the no host connection error.

copper steppe
#

If you ssh in, does internet etc work? What device is it using? What dns settings? What routing?

#

If the LAN works, but the internet doesn't, it sounds a bit like your default gateway isn't working/set

#

Or (more likely) DNS

#

@runic venture ☝️

sudden junco
#

I've been trying to setup HASS* on WSL since I recently moved and haven't unpacked my server stuff but I am endlessly in a cycle of
ImportError: cannot import name 'html5lib' from 'pip._vendor'

  • I got past couple recent ones but this one is endless. I tried some of the SO posts but then I'm getting
    E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
    Anyone experience these issues with WSL?
low notch
#

you will be way faster just using a containerized ha, any reason why you explicitly chose a pyenv install?

sudden junco
low notch
#

yeah, that is not a very friendly way to install ha

sudden junco
#

Alright, I'll go VM then. Wanna set some stuff up before I unpack. Thanks.

runic venture
runic venture
low notch
sudden junco
#

I debated going docker but I remember last time I did I had a lot of issues with network access. I never tried Docker for Windows, though.

low notch
#

do not do docker for windows

#

its a bit to learn (docker/linux) but incredibly useful for your further linux adventure to set up and get apps/services going very fast

copper steppe
copper steppe
runic venture
#

Yeah, router as the gateway and 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8 as the DNS hosts

#

It appears to set those details fine but makes no difference to internet connectivity

#

I believe I have SSH enabled to use the addon you can get to show the console in HA - I don't know if that would count here?

#

I have the Terminal addon

amber iron
copper steppe
runic venture
copper steppe
#

Try “ping 8.8.8.8” and “curl -v google.com”

runic venture
#

To curl:

  • Could not resolve host: google.com
    *Closing connection 0
    curl: (6) Could not resolve host: google.com
    To ping 8.8.8.8
    PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
    []

No progress beyond that point - looks like it's waiting for a reply, I think?

copper steppe
#

What does “route” output?

runic venture
#

Dumb question (probably) but how can I copy+paste out of terminal? It doesn't pick up text if I hold it highlighted

raven forge
#

It's probably a good idea to run these commands on the host, not in the SSH container

copper steppe
#

Your computer is not getting to the internet which breaks everything

runic venture
#

Hmm, can I change location in this terminal session or would I need to do this right on metal?

#

Hmm - so it does seem DNSy then

copper steppe
#

Broken dns is caused by broken routing; not the other way around

runic venture
copper steppe
#

What is core-samba host?

runic venture
#

Ah - I have a samba addon that lets me get to HA's local files over network via windows share

#

It was/is necessary to copy and edit things in HACS oftentimes

amber iron
copper steppe
#

I’m on my phone. It’s hard to type.

runic venture
#

Pain in the ain

copper steppe
#

I use file-manager addon to view edit ha files, not samba

runic venture
#

I'm more than willing to switch, I used what I think was in a guide on the HA forum somewhere

#

Or under a HACS addon github

copper steppe
#

Sorry I can’t really help. Typing on phone too hard

raven forge
#

What does ha network info say?

runic venture
#

Thank you for helping this much, @copper steppe !

runic venture
#

The DNS for docker is definitely wrong though

#

Unless, wait

#

is 172. internal?

raven forge
#

Either use something like putty to connect via SSH and copy paste the text or make a screenshot

runic venture
#

I always forget

#

Yeah this server blocks images which is a beach

#

Let me try putty

humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

runic venture
#

my networking skills are very much reading-off-the-manufacturer's-instructions

runic venture
#

I'll try putty first, bear with

#

Man networking's a pain

#

So ethernet is set up correctly but docker isn't

#

Looks like some unreachable internal IP

raven forge
#

That's fine. What's more concerning is host_internet: false and supervisor_internet: false

runic venture
#

Yeah, they have no net. But why?

#

I would assume having a valid ethernet connection would do the magickery

#

I can get to it from the LAN, so it's outbound connection seems like it should work

raven forge
#

Not sure. Everything else but this looks okay to me

runic venture
#

Hmm. Do those conditions change on their own once internet is up to HA, or would it need to restart or something? I can try restarting the router to see if it's something there

#

Actually I'm noticing that my router doesn't list HA in the wired devices section

#

It's definitely there in the ACL list and clients lists

raven forge
#

I'm not familiar with HA's code base. I'd try re-plugging the ethernet cable and maybe cycling power. On a "normal" linux OS I'd probably run ifreload and/or dhclient

runic venture
#

I've tried full restarts of the HA device so maybe I'll restart the switch and router and go from there

#

Thanks - I'll report back here

#

Appreciate the help from everyone so far!

brisk path
#

Running into an issue with the latest debian packages in my containered HA installation. After drilling down further - the issue exists in the hotplug management daemon package update. This causes the attached Sonoff Zigbee dongle serial port to not show up in the vbox vm

#

so if you have a usb zigbee stick on your windows machine being shared to your debian vm - that would fail with the latest debian packages update....

grim onyx
#

Does it make sense to restore from a partial backup on a freshly installed system? Also, should I be expecting to see more than one item in the checklist?

gloomy frigate
#

Help... Getting stuck on starting Homeassistant in a DEV-Container in VS-Code. After Creating Useraccount/Language/Currency i'm stuck... Alreads restarted HA, Cleared all Data, recreated docker, tried different browsers, cleared cookies...

#

i Only got a screen with a HomeAssistant Badge, no buttons, no actions

#

i followed these guide for setting up

humble mirage
#

If you need help with a dev container, for developing, then #developers is a better channel to ask in

gloomy frigate
#

thx.. thought, it was a general problem since i found multiple documents on google referencing that problem - but non solution worked for me.. Still stuck on onboarding...

#

the strange thing: it formerly worked for me very well but suddenly it stops workign

bright zenith
#

Hey, getting the below error sometimes on my HA installation. Am I right in assuming the machine I'm running it on is having issues?https://imgur.com/a/p2ucPBv

humble mirage
#

Hard to tell with a shrunken image... but probably

amber iron
#

It's only one item because you probably only specified core in the partial backup

finite thunder
#

is it possible to install home assistant supervised on a pine a64+?

humble mirage
#

Supervised is only an option on actual Debian, and it's not a good option

finite thunder
humble mirage
#

Because it's fragile and easily broken

#

All you have to do is either ignore the requirements, or not keep on top of changes to them

finite thunder
#

Do you know which one I need to select when I get prompted which device I have

humble mirage
#

Are you running actual Debian?

#

Not a Debian derivative, or something based on it, but actual Debian

finite thunder
#

Dietpi so a Debian based distribution

humble mirage
#

So, not Debian and not supported

finite thunder
#

Okay then I will install Debian

humble mirage
#

Google suggests the A64+ uses the same CPU as the Pi3, so maybe try that

finite thunder
#

because the A64+ is the same cpu as Pi3 can you also install HASSIO on a A64+?

humble mirage
#

I doubt it

#

The boards are quite different

nocturne sable
#

Hi guys, I've been trying to install Home Assistant in the docker container for a few days now, and the only thing that pops up in the console is

s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: starting
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully started
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: starting
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: starting
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: starting
services-up: info: copying legacy longrun home-assistant (no readiness notification)
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services successfully started

I created a container through Portainer with this text:

version: '3'
services:
  homeassistant:
    container_name: homeassistant
    image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
    volumes:
      - /var/lib/docker/volumes/homeassistant-data/_data:/config
      - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
    restart: unless-stopped
    privileged: true
    network_mode: host

The site doesn't open, what should I do? What else should I add to the information?

humble mirage
#

When you say the site doesn't open you are using a web browser to connect?

nocturne sable
#

Yes

#

What do I need to use to connect?

humble mirage
#

A web browser

#

I would say that your choice of volume location is highly unusual

# 
      - /var/lib/docker/volumes/homeassistant-data/_data:/config
#

However... have you looked in there for the log file?

nocturne sable
#

I created a volume in Portainer and took the path directly from there

#

I don't know how to check if there's a log file, I'm told that the volume is Unused

humble mirage
#

Look in /var/lib/docker/volumes/homeassistant-data/_data

#

Portainer is also known for being ... a bit weird

nocturne sable
#

What do I need to find there? I think all the homeassistant files are there

humble mirage
#

There should be a log file there

nocturne sable
#

There are log files, but they are all empty, should I restart the container?

humble mirage
#

Check the container logs, in Portainer

#

It's entirely possible Portainer is being weird again

nocturne sable
humble mirage
#

Well, by removing host networking you've broken many integrations

robust cypress
#

good afternoon

#

I am trying to install HAOS bare metal at my old laptop

#

I record the files at my pendrive

#

according this instruction

#

nevertheless my laptop does not recognize the pendrive to boot it

#

when I enable UEFI at BIOS this screen appears

humble mirage
#

You don't write those files to the pendrive, you write them to the boot drive

robust cypress
humble mirage
#

Yes, either

robust cypress
robust cypress
humble mirage
#

You have to be able to access the drive

#

So, up to you - do you have a way of accessing it from Windows?

robust cypress
#

yes, but balena will write files correctly from windows? I mean, windows is running in HD and balena will write at same HD

#

will it works?

humble mirage
#

It works

#

And no, it won't write to the drive Windows is running from

robust cypress
#

does not work 😞

#

message "flash failure"

humble mirage
#

Well... are you trying to write it to the drive you've booted from?

robust cypress
#

yes

humble mirage
#

no, it won't write to the drive Windows is running from

robust cypress
#

I am preparing ubuntu live usb

crude inlet
#

Flash Ubuntu live to your pen drive, boot into Ubuntu, download the HAOS xz file, open ubuntu's "disks" utility and choose the laptop HD. Then select to restore the HAOS file to that HD.

#

You can skip downloading balena

robust cypress
distant jungle
#

hello. currently am testing a proxmox install on j3455 which has 4 cores and 8GB RAM. did a fresh install and let it sit for over 12 hours. is there a reason why it's running literally nothing yet the CPU is 40%-60% at all times? meanwhile my existing install on a raspberry pi 3 is using under 20% cpu (and thats with all my addons running)

https://i.imgur.com/VVM4mJj.png

crude inlet
copper steppe
#

Is it installed or stuck installing?

distant jungle
#

its completed and running for over 12 hrs

copper steppe
#

What does it say on console? Check logs too

distant jungle
#

no addons installed

#

console is normal

copper steppe
#

From “ha” prompt type “login” then “top” and see what’s using cpu

#

Check logs too

distant jungle
#

logs are empty

copper steppe
#

My proxmox is 3% with many integrations and addons

distant jungle
#

are you running latest version of the OS? 10.1

copper steppe
#

Latest is bad (high cpu) for done people. Wound suggest revert to 9.5 see if problem goes away

distant jungle
#

done people?

crude inlet
#

Some people, I assume

distant jungle
#

gotcha. how do i revert to 9.5? i can clone this instance and downgrade it to test

copper steppe
#

From ha prompt it’s something like: os upgrade —version 9.5

#

No need to reinstall

crude inlet
#

ha os update --version=9.5

#

Should do

#

Upgrade might be valid too. I forget

copper steppe
#

There ya go. I’m on phone walking dogs

#

Check haos issue queue

crude inlet
#

Hey that's what I'm about to do heh

copper steppe
distant jungle
#

so thats the issue huh?

copper steppe
#

For me, and some

distant jungle
#

my install with high CPU is 100% fresh and brand new, i havent even installed or loaded a backup yet

#

all i did was create an account

copper steppe
#

Try downgrading os

distant jungle
#

yeah im doing that now

copper steppe
#

It’s easy and safe

#

Otherwise problem likely in logs

#

Sorry one finger phone typing

distant jungle
#

yeah im cloning the vm to see what happens. i wanted to get off my pi..

copper steppe
#

Cloned vm from rpi? But they’re different arch??

distant jungle
#

cloning the proxmox VM to downgrade the clone

copper steppe
#

Don’t bother

#

Up/down easy and reversible

distant jungle
#

im aware, just being safe. doesnt bother me that much

copper steppe
#

Ps suggest tteck script for one line haos install on proxmox

distant jungle
#

whats that?

copper steppe
#

Google tteck proxmox

distant jungle
#

i see. i just created and loaded the image manually.

copper steppe
#

Sure. Ymmv. I use tteck for all kinds of things on proxmox

copper steppe
#

How did that go?

robust cypress
#

good evening

#

I wrote HAOS using balena etcher at my computer

#

but when it boot HAOS does not start

#

I change my BIOS to UEFI

#

please, what I am doing wrong ?

distant jungle
copper steppe
#

Need to view logs. Maybe try a parallel tteck install in case you muffed a setting?

distant jungle
#

which logs are you referring to? system > logs ?

copper steppe
#

Ha logs

#

I’ll be on a computer in 15 mins might be able to help more then. Try tteck in parallel - it’s possible you made mistake in vm settings or something

distant jungle
#

sure ill look at it

copper steppe
#

OK, on a computer now

distant jungle
copper steppe
#

it's just an idea, for a repeatable no-human involved install.

#

TLDR open the shell on the proxmox node, and paste:

bash -c "$(wget -qLO - https://github.com/tteck/Proxmox/raw/main/vm/haos-vm.sh)"
distant jungle
#

alright ill try.

copper steppe
#

👍

#

I just did one too, so I can follow along. Also on proxmox

distant jungle
#

its up. just created an account.

copper steppe
#

Mine seems to be running fine with ~5% cpu

# 
 Status running
 HA State none
 Node pve2
 CPU usage 7.04% of 1 CPU(s)
 Memory usage 93.67% (1.37 GiB of 1.46 GiB)
 Bootdisk size 32.00 GiB
distant jungle
#

what you type to get that

copper steppe
#

That's from the summary panel within the VM in proxmox

distant jungle
#

maybe the hardware im trying to run it on just isnt good?

Status running
HA State none
Node proxmox
CPU usage 75.71% of 2 CPU(s)
Memory usage 89.54% (3.58 GiB of 4.00 GiB)
Bootdisk size 32.00 GiB

copper steppe
#

It was some j-thingy?

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@distant jungle I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
distant jungle
#

would have thought it would have been better than using an old pi3

copper steppe
#

Looks like the J3455 is about twice as fast.

distant jungle
#

well thats a bit messed up then that my cpu is 30%+ for no reason lol

#

im trying on my NAS now to see how it compares

copper steppe
#

are you running latest proxmox kernel?

distant jungle
#

its a new install, so yeah

copper steppe
#

You disabled all the subscription repos, did the updates, cleaned old kernels, etc?

#

You could try edge kernels, see if that's any better

#

again tteck scripts for all this 🙂

distant jungle
#

disabled subs, i hid the popup box, checked for updates

wooden smelt
#

The newer, low-cost Celeron processors seem to require some adjustments, such as using "Host" as the CPU model and the more recent 6.2 kernel.

copper steppe
#

Here's the man himself 🙂

distant jungle
#

oh? let me look here hmm

#

now where the heck do i change the cpu model

#

my kernel version on the VM creation says 6.x - 2.6 Kernel

copper steppe
#

I assume he means on the host

#

check the summary panel on the proxmox node.

#

eg: mine is "Linux 5.15.102-1-pve #1 SMP PVE 5.15.102-1 (2023-03-14T13:48Z"

distant jungle
# 
CPU(s) 4 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU J3455 @ 1.50GHz (1 Socket)
Kernel Version Linux 5.15.107-1-pve #1 SMP PVE 5.15.107-1 (2023-04-20T10:05Z)
PVE Manager Version pve-manager/7.4-3/9002ab8a
Repository Status Proxmox VE updates Non production-ready repository enabled!
copper steppe
#

Try the edge kernel

distant jungle
#

you mean reinstall proxmox completely?

copper steppe
#

Nah, just the kernel, which is one part of the underlying OS. Use the tteck script: /Proxmox VE tools/Proxmox VE Edge Kernel Tool/

#

It will require a proxmox reboot though

wooden smelt
#

By utilizing the mentioned script and choosing the "Advanced" option, a dialog box will appear, presenting various options.

distant jungle
#

oh i see

#

so even though im on the new prox. its using the old kernel

copper steppe
#

6.x is for future proxmox versions

wooden smelt
robust cypress
#

I just install my HAOS bare metal but the system did not recognize my wifi adapter and did not get IP address

copper steppe
#

I haven't bothered updating to edge kernels. Any point on old hardware tteck? i5-6500T

robust cypress
#

do you know how can I solve it ?

copper steppe
#

use ethernet? 🙂

distant jungle
robust cypress
#

the computer will be far from the router

copper steppe
#

ha on wifi is rather unreliable, not a good idea

brittle sail
#

It’s a terrible idea

distant jungle
#

whats the best way to reboot proxmox? select the proxmox node and restart? or is there a higher up level to restart?

copper steppe
#

click the node and click reboot

#

that's as high up as you get.

distant jungle
#

just did that, here is what i got now:

CPU(s) 4 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU J3455 @ 1.50GHz (1 Socket)
Kernel Version Linux 6.2.11-1-pve #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC PVE 6.2.11-1 (2023-04-20T09:59Z)
PVE Manager Version pve-manager/7.4-3/9002ab8a
Repository Status Proxmox VE updates Non production-ready repository enabled!
copper steppe
#

ok, you're running a newer kernel now. and "host" mode cpu in the vm?

#

does it look any better?

distant jungle
#

gotta edit the host mode on cpu still

#

you dont think i would need to rebuild it from scratch with those new settings would ya?

wooden smelt
#

Did you look over the guide I linked?

distant jungle
#

slowly am

copper steppe
#

probably no need to rebuild it when you change CPU type; it's like moving the disk between different computers.

robust cypress
#

how can shutdow HA using CLI ?

#

host shutdown

distant jungle
robust cypress
#

I got access to my HA homepage using ethernet

#

is it possible fix the wifi connection from HA webpage ?

copper steppe
#

nope, it's too low-level for that. See link above, or google it

robust cypress
copper steppe
#

so search the forums, man. HAOS is intended to be appliance, it doesn't have great ootb support for wireless because it's so thoroughly recommended against

main orbit
#

I just install Home Assistant onto my Raspberry Pi. I got my Apple TV connected through Home Assistant but can't figure out to add a remote card into Home Assistant dashboard. There isn't any steps on the docs page. Any ideas?

low notch
runic warren
#

Howdy folks, hope this is the right channel. Having some issues with my HA install on a virtual machine on an OptiPlex 5050.

A few weeks ago I noticed my automations weren't running. When I would get onto my machine and check the HA instance to verify it was running, it would have a slew of "watchdog timeout" errors. I also have issues connecting to the UI, and nothing seems to help that except just repeated attempts? Two things I did around this time:

  • Setup a Minecraft server on the same computer

  • Connected an external SSD to be used as a home network drive.

I've already disconnected the drive but no change, so I'm assuming there's an issue with the Minecraft server? Anyways, I'm curious where to start looking for troubleshooting and finding the most useful information, as I'm pretty new to all this so don't want to bother you all with handholding me through it!

raven forge
runic warren
#

Like I mentioned, Dell OptiPlex 5050. Host OS is Windows 10, HAOS running on Oracle VirtualBox. I just changed a few things and restarted so now the errors are gone, but I will post with them as they come up.

Thank you for the link, that is exactly the kind of point in the right direction I was looking for!

stable swallow
#

Where to read about setting up duckdns and home companion

humble mirage
#

Home Companion?

quick ocean
fallen lichen
#

That'd be there for the line breaks to facilitate ease of copy/paste

quick ocean
#

Running HA on docker. I think a messed up with setting up the volumes. Is there a way to check where HA is saving data?

grand pivot
#

The software in the container itself doesn't know what you've mapped. It would be clear from what you mapped in the docker run or docker-compose.yaml

quick ocean
#

-v ./config

#

didn't have much understanding of docker when I installed it

humble mirage
#

You ... probably didn't map anything then, not as far as HA was concerned

grand pivot
#

yeah, what you tried to do there is wrong and didn't work

#

your config directory is sitting in the container, which is a bad thing

humble mirage
#

You can get it out, but if you're new to Docker (and Linux) then it's going to be "an experience"

quick ocean
#

hehe everything is a experience with HA

#

so docker exec -it containerid /bin/bash

#

?

grand pivot
#

It's trickier because you need to map an external directory properly to be able to copy your config directory out of the container by doing that. You're better off making a backup, downloading it, extracting it into a directory of your choice, and properly mapping it

quick ocean
#

okay, so stopping the currently running HA after backing up and starting a new docker HA with correct mapping?

grand pivot
#

After downloading and extracting, yes

raven forge
#

docker cp should work

grand pivot
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That would require more explaining

quick ocean
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I will start over. Thx

distant jungle
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Can I install HA directly on a PC or do I have to install linux first then install inside that?

low notch
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Running native on linux will give you a lot more options

distant jungle
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does that support the supervised method?

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if so, once i get a linux variant on there, what method do i use to install HA?

low notch
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supervised is a trap, don't go that route

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you can run it in docker, also kvm is possible for haos and pyenv is also possible

distant jungle
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im running supervised on my raspberry pi right now, i would like to repeat the same style

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as when i reload my backup i want it all to work the same

low notch
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if you need addons go haos, not supervised

distant jungle
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sorry. maybe i got them mixed up

low notch
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well haos is a (almost) complete os, you will need a virtual machine or install it bare metal

distant jungle
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this is what im running right now

low notch
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yes, you will need a vm or bare metal install

distant jungle
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can i bare metal install that on a regular intel based PC?

low notch
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should be doable

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some people have uefi / virtualization issues but give it a try

distant jungle
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i tried a VM on it, but the hardware is so low-end, that a fresh install pegs the CPU at 40% CPU usage 24/7 with no backup loaded yet. so i was wondering about bare metal.

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i guess my question around that...can you install it via USB? or do i have to flash the image directly onto the drive that will go into the PC?

low notch
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a ssd is clearly preferred, you should be able to install wherever you want though

distant jungle
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yeah i have an SSD in that mini PC, but i cant take it out, image it, and put it back in

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would i have to boot to a live USB and then write it i guess?

low notch
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you can boot a live linux on it, write the image to the ssd

distant jungle
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yeah sorry i just thought of that or i wouldnt have wasted your time to read it

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ill give that a shot.

copper steppe
distant jungle
amber iron
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thats more than enough

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my machine is considerable worse than yours and runs ha fine

distant jungle
amber iron
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vm on proxmox, gx-415ga, 1.5ghz 4 cores, but no hyperthreading

distant jungle
copper steppe
distant jungle
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yeah i just wish it wouldnt run to high in the CPU. is there any way to see what processes are causing that?

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@amber iron how much does your CPU idle at?

amber iron
distant jungle
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are you doing anything special when creating the VM? like i said, mine sits at 40% with nothing installed yet. still cant figure out why.

amber iron
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not really.. i set it up with this script here
bash -c "$(wget -qLO - https://github.com/tteck/Proxmox/raw/main/vm/haos-vm.sh)"

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but pretty sure it sets it up with mostly defaults

distant jungle
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yeah i tried that also. insane how mine just doesnt work better even though its a better cpu

amber iron
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you have all your cores assigned to haos?

distant jungle
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yeah

amber iron
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not sure, 40% sounds a lot, but are you sure it wasnt still setting stuff up in the bg

distant jungle
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100%. i had it sitting idle for over 24 hrs

amber iron
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actually was this haos 10

distant jungle
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it was HASOS 10 and 9.5

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i tried both

amber iron
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well, heard a lot about 10 increasing cpu use for some people but, if its 9.5 iunno, sounds odd to me

distant jungle
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is there a way to see what process is using the CPU?

amber iron
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in haos?

distant jungle
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yeah. like how can i see what is pegging it at 40% cpu?

raven forge
#

glances would probably be the easiest way

distant jungle
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how do you run that

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or where.

raven forge
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It's an addon. You install it and press z to show the processes Iirc. You can also configure it to always show them but that uses more CPU usage itself

distant jungle
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gotcha. going to look at that quick.

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hmmm maybe i see a problem

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hassio_dns using 141 cpu

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i think i ran into this before

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ha. i wonder if my custom DNS setup is the cause

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sheesh. i need to fix that

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@raven forge lifesaver

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glances helped me see that hassio_dns was the issue

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i have a firewall rule that blocks dns for port 853

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once i added an exclusion for it, its fine

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@copper steppe see above ^

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it was trying to talk to DNS and getting filtered 10,000+ times a second

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now my CPU is at 5%

raven forge
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10,000+ times a second
👀

distant jungle
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yeah it was slamming my network

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now i can actually use proxmox

humble mirage
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hassio_dns has a well documented history of behaving badly, sadly

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There's at least a few forum threads where posters discovered it to be the cause of their system being overloaded

amber iron
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glad u figured it out tho

distant jungle
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once i installed the glance addon it showed me right away what the problem was

distant jungle
placid island
#

Hello guys,
I am currently having an issue with my HA setup.
It wont Start after a reboot and only the Command 'banner' fixes it. Does anyone Else have such an issue and any solution for it?

amber iron
#

Are you sure it doesn't actually start. How long do you wait before you consider it to be not started

placid island
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30min
But with Supervisor repair it now seems to work

wooden smelt
raven forge
#

The hostname warning is a bit dramatic though. I don't see a reason why you couldn't change it later on

wooden smelt
pastel sphinx
placid sage
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Can I host this on Windows???

humble mirage
#

Yes

placid sage
#

YIPPEE

humble mirage
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There's a link in the channel topic

placid sage
#

oh

copper steppe
#

Ah the microcode update

runic venture
# runic venture Appreciate the help from everyone so far!

Hi guys! Following up on the replied-to post. I've restarted everything involved in the network and no success. Anyone have any new ideas?
I still feel like those public-looking (or at least, not-the-same-as-my-internal-LAN-subnet) IPs need updating in Docker, from a networking perspective that seems to be a problem.

woeful kernel
#

I need some docker help please

grand pivot
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please just jump to the question

woeful kernel
#

i'm trying to implement the ibeacons and am having problems understanding how to make ethe dbus available to HA.

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The system says if I'm using the run command do one thing and if I'm using compose do something different. I just installed it and can't figure out where to add the necessary arguements to the command line.

deft bloom
#

Is this the right channel to post about installing Home assistant OS?

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I hope so

#

I’m trying to install the latest stable version on a hp elitedesk computer, I checked the website and it meets the system requirements. It installs perfectly fine until “Waiting for home assistant CLI to be ready…”. After a minute or two it prints “[WARN] Home Assistant CLI not starting! Jump into emergency console…” and I don’t know what to do. If anyone could help me it would be greatly appreciated.

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Any more info that I forgot to give just lmk

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It’s installing on a SSD and secure boot is disabled

deft bloom
low notch
#

loginand check if you can ping google ?

karmic agate
#

Hello,

I'd like to install Home Assistant on my NAS-Server which runs Truenas Core, which doesn't officially support it anymore.

What other possibilities do I have? I only have that NAS-Server.

humble mirage
#

Run a VM

gilded pewter
#

I found regression. the tts automation ui does no longer work with google speakers.

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there is no option to set. entity_id: media_player.googlehomeSOMETHINGSOMTHING

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will file a bug tomorrow im going to bed

gilded pewter
#

oh a other name.. almost same yaml. that works i guess

astral kraken
#

Am i correct in thinking theres no way to use the internal wifi on my x86 box because the standard kernel modules werent included and theres no way to ad them? And thers also no way to partition data between 2 networks?

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*on home assitant OS

astral kraken
#

In 30 years i havent used a worse *nix. Even routers dont store their passwords in plaintext.

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one suggestion =- i get you removed LSPCI cos RPi doesnt have it, but generic-x86 do.

copper steppe
#

There is no "you" there is only "we"

low notch
#

a pi has a pci bus like any other pc

copper steppe
#

he's talking about the cli tool being missing from haos

low notch
#

yes I know but that makes no sense

copper steppe
#

he's trying to figure out which hardware/driver he has, I guess

low notch
#

use a hypervisor, enjoy whatever hardware that supports

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or a container install, which fits 99% of needs

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its not due to the pi that haos does not come with pciutils, its because you generally only need it in rare cases like yours

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wifi is shite anyways for servers

astral kraken
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hence 2 networks, wifi for the IoT devices and eth for the local net 🙂

copper steppe
#

iirc "some" wifi devices are available, but it's so thoroughly recommended against, I don't think the maintainers go out of their way to add more.

astral kraken
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And yeah a hypervisor is whats needed. A hypervisor for a hypervisor thats misconfigured and as sucure as win 98

copper steppe
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+ignore

astral kraken
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lol +aintcare

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plaintext passwords!

low notch
#

why split the networks? have them both on ethernet and wifi

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vlans!

glossy dove
#

how to I install influxDB 2.7 on HAOS?

humble mirage
glossy dove
#

yes I tried the influxdb addon but the interface is useless

humble mirage
#

That's your only option if you want to run it on HAOS

glossy dove
#

I tried the standalone influxdb on window CLI and it looked promising

humble mirage
#

You can run InfluxDB wherever you want though

glossy dove
#

how do I get influxDB to run from the same IP address under the HAOS VM?

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so I have to not use HAOS and install everything manually?

humble mirage
#

If that's what you want, yes

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Why do you care about the IP?

shadow hazel
#

How long does restore from backup take? And what do I do when it doesn't response after 15minutes...

humble mirage
#

Depends on the size of the backup and the hardware

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20 GB to a Pi on an SD card, takes a long time

shadow hazel
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500Mb, installed on NUC (beelink) with proxmox vm : 4 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz (1 Socket)

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(starting to sweat 🙂 )

humble mirage
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Once the restore is done it'll reboot

shadow hazel
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(damn latest update to 2023-4-5 did not so great...)

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sorry update 2023.5 messed a lot of integrations up)

umbral prairie
#

Hi! I got this error (the first one) during installation on RPi4 (tried both balena and Rpi Imager). Any idea?

 ERROR (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-audio:2023.04.1: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.42/images/create?tag=2023.04.1&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Faarch64-hassio-audio&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": context deadline exceeded")
23-05-04 16:43:56 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.audio] Audio update failed
23-05-04 16:43:56 ERROR (MainThread)
jovial pivot
deft bloom
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CAPS

low notch
#

you installed what?

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judging by the time it took you to respond I'd still say its DNS

long current
#

hi I started facing an issue that the HA OS (on pi4) won't load from datadisk, it loads an old version of HA (os is 10.1) if I do ha os datadisk list I see my disk there

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so it's actually allowing me to move my disk from the SD card over the USB drive again (I guess this will overwrite my current config on the USB drive)

outer quiver
#

Hey im facing an issue after registering account on home assistant, when i login in im stuck on a page(onboarding.html). Im using VM, any ideas?

humble mirage
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I've seen somebody else report something similar. You're using Chrome with no ad-blockers?

outer quiver
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Yes, but already removed it and it keeps the same state. I tried other browsers as well but the error was the same

robust crescent
#

Has anyone installed directly to a nvme drive before from a USB? I do not want to take apart the deskpi if i can help it.

fallen lichen
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If you boot some type of live environment, you could run Balena or whatever to write HAOS to your drive

robust crescent
#

ok, that is a thought... thanks

deft bloom
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If there’s a specific way to check pls lmk

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And I wasn’t able to respond because I am an idiot.

raven forge
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Try ip a, ping google.com, ha network info

deft bloom
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I can’t really copy it all down unless you want a very dirty and ugly screenshot

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Lol

raven forge
deft bloom
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Ok let me check

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Thanks

deft bloom
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Can’t really format cause I am in mobile sorry

rugged rapids
#

I downloaded the spiupdate img file and flashed it with BalenaEtcher

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It doesn't present a fat partition to drop the spiboot.img file onto

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So I created another partition on the SD card that was small and partitioned fat

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Put the image on there

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It doesn't update it when booting the board

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Anyone have any advice?

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The version of Petitboot that's on there now is (dev.20220303)

fallen lichen
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I'm not familiar with the process, but it sounds like something went wrong w/ the etching process if you didn't see that partition created

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How does the SD card present after flashing

rugged rapids
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It creates two paritions

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but they arne't windows friendly

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I don't have an SD card

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It's the eMMC chip

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Oh dur.. sorry re-read

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Let me share a screen shot

fallen lichen
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Youll need to upload to imgur and share the link

rugged rapids
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When I flash the HA image onto the SD card it'll boot up completely.

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but I don't want to use the SD card to boot

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instead would want to boot the eMMC chip

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The instructions indicate that you need to updated petitboot

fallen lichen
#

Right.... so did you flash that initial image on an SD and follow those directions?

rugged rapids
fallen lichen
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Gotcha.... it should be that first partition you copy it to

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Not sure why it wouldn't be mountable by windows

rugged rapids
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Tried Rufus as well same result

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Tried another sdcard same result

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Tried another computer

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Same result

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Btw the other computer is a mac

rugged rapids
#

Guess I'll break out the ole Linux machine

worldly glen
#

Home Assistant gets stuck on /onboarding.html page during initial setup. Cannot find a way around. If you search the internet, you will find many other instances of this happening throughout the years, with most of the issues being shrugged off.

I have tried 1) using the official Docker container, 2) booting a VM with the KVM image, and 3) booting the official Hyper-V image on Windows, and all three times I am stuck at this step. I have also tried 1) different browsers, 2) clearing browser cache/cookies/using private windows, and 3) using different login names. Anyone else?

worldly glen
#

Update: Rolled back to 2023.4.6-ls141 and it is working. It seems the latest has broken the onboarding process.

quasi light
#

Hi, I am about to download the KVM image of Home Assistant, but cannot find any sha256/512 or even MD5 files to verify integrity with. Can I find those somewhere please?

quasi light
#

On Github I find a .raucb file for each downloadable file, but how shall that be used? Please tell me the greatest home automation framework supports a way to verify file integrity... 🙂

placid sage
#

Hi all, i install haos to VM Hyper-v. Connect to webpage, create user, fill country etc. And thats all. After new login i have only logo home assistant And that all

humble mirage
quasi light
humble mirage
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There's nothing

quasi light
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:/ Thanks I suppose... There should be imho

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Do we know why there isn't a way to do this?

humble mirage
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I don't think anybody's ever even raised a feature request for it

quasi light
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Ah, ok. I've seen a few questions, but that may be it. I'll think about it, shouldn't be too hard compared to all great magic dev's already do 🙂

humble mirage
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Open a feature request (forum) or develop the required PR 😉

fossil veldt
#

yeah so Im still tryin to do a x86 install, been going through a bunch of my old PCs but I cant seem to have em boot UEFI. They from 2013, thereabouts and just lack the feature. Any chance to make it run without UEFI? Will gladly take the performance hit

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had it running through a VM til now but my windows keeps freezing

raven forge
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Install proxmox on it/them and virtualize HAOS

rich minnow
#

hi there

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please guys i am stuck in the "preparing home assistant" tis can take 20 miutes

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is there any guide for rockies in installing and run home assistant on a rasberry pi in youtube

humble mirage
#

What model of Pi, and is it using an SD card?

humble mirage
#

Have you tried using MQTT Explorer with the same information?

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Is it connected?

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It looks like it's working

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What is it you're entering the details in that's not working?

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Where?

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In Home Assistant?

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In some device?

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Ok, check the log

humble scaffoldBOT
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If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

humble mirage
#

Weird... I take it that you don't already have MQTT configured in HA?

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Well, you can't configure MQTT in YAML

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In the UI, following the docs...

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
#

If you mean "UI" by menu then sure

#

Click the docs link in the bot message and follow the instructions

humble mirage
#

Where did you get that error?

#

Which container is throwing the error?

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Check the configuration for it

humble scaffoldBOT
#

To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Shift+Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
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Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

humble mirage
#

Do you have a config file at /opt/mosquitto/config/mosquitto.conf?

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I would also have expected you to map /opt/mosquitto/config:/mosquitto/config

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That's what their own docs show you should do

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Try that, see if it fixes your error

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No

# 
      - /opt/mosquitto:/mosquitto
``` ❌
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Yes

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Well... fix that 😉

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Make sure the flie is there and it can read it

rugged rapids
humble mirage
#

By default the mosquitto container runs as user 1883 - if that user can't access the folder or files it can't open the confiig file

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You're running on Windows?

fossil veldt
# raven forge Install proxmox on it/them and virtualize HAOS

but thats what I said, it's already virtualized, do you think proxmox would make a difference over a VM? honest question.
for instance I did hear QEMU would be better than VirtualBox though (which is what I have it running on ATM) on account of the instructions being sent direct to kernel

crude inlet
#

Proxmox is simply for managing many VMs. There wouldn't be a difference i think

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Personally I would choose qemu/kvm over virtualbox

raven forge
fossil veldt
#

freezes cos of lack of resources

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tried adjusting

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no dice

raven forge
#

Proxmox needs about 1G for itself. How many resources does your host have?

fossil veldt
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4gb ram, 2500mhz core2duo

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it's a t410

raven forge
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Should be enough to run proxmox and a HAOS VM

fossil veldt
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hah

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yeah but im a windows fag

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it run on win too?

raven forge
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No

fossil veldt
#

gah

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to go back to my initial question, any way for a generic x86 install to run without UEFI?

raven forge
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You can go the cursed supervised route but if you want to avoid linux that won't be what you want either

fossil veldt
#

interesting

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imma probably just buy a new pc at this point :))

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but will look into what you said first, ofc

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cheers

placid sage
#

Hi guys, is it possible to restore a full backup of raspi 4 on a VM homeassistant which is hostet on qnap?
My Raspi is broken and now I'm looking for the easiest way to integrate all the stuff.

My first attempts fail. After the restore, the thing can be reached, but can no longer be reached via 8123 and firefox.

humble mirage
#

Yes, you can

ebon shard
#

At present i have Zigbee setup on my HA server using ZHA which connects to a Sonoff Wifi to Zigbee bridge which all works (can't use usb Zigbee as HA server is in loft and i have range issues with some devices) . i need to add Zigbee2MQTT for a keypad i want to install how do i go about this ?

raven forge
ebon shard
raven forge
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Depends on your setup. Check the docs. The E version is experimental in Z2M. Do not recommend

runic olive
raven forge
#

How and where is docker installed?

runic olive
raven forge
#

I saw a few of those errors related to containers. My guess it's LXC related

weary basalt
#

Hi, I have a problem with the initial setup of HAss after I have installed a current docker container because I had to reinstall my raspi 3b.
When I do the initial setup and create my account, then confirm my location, then specify what data I want to share and click "next" I only have the "Homme Assistant" banner at the top, but the rest of the page is unfortunately empty.
I have already tried other browsers, other devices or even clearing the page cache. None of this has brought me a solution.

Does anyone have any ideas what I can change? I'm running out of ideas. Of course, I also rebuilt the Docker container a few times and deleted the entire config.

fallen lichen
#

The path will be different for your container, you'll need to go into .storage wherever your /config is mounted

weary basalt
#

i will try, thanks

weary basalt
raven forge
#

You might have to install bonjour if you're on windows. Mdns can be finicky

humble mirage
#

Well, that if you're still running it on Windows, host mode networking doesn't work

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That's why the docs are quite clear that Docker on Windows isn't supported

#

Well... Docker on Windows isn't supported

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It isn't going to work

#

Click the link in the channel topic, scroll down to Linux and read

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Remember, WSL doesn't count

#

You need to run a VM, and install HA in the VM

raven forge
#

i couldn't
That's too vague to help. Try again and ask us if you run into problems

grand pivot
#

I always assume that it burst into flames

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or their hands fell off

humble mirage
#

Head... head fell off

placid sage
#

hello 😅 I just upgraded to 2023.05.1 from 2023.05.0 and now al my tasmota devices are just rapidly cycling between Unknown/Unavailable/<actual state>. (e.g. when I look at the "Overview page) Is there something you can point me to where to look to debug this ?

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oooow. the mqtt log is full of "Client <client id> disconnected due to malformed packet."

spice briar
#

Hello. I am installing Home Assistant using docker...when going through the onboarding, I configure my location etc and click next, but the page seems to hang on the home assistant logo...I can't progress the installation anymore

fallen lichen
spice briar
#

I have tried that but I don't then get the iintegration guided setup

#

is there a way to get that back? So it auto discovers my devices etc?

fallen lichen
#

Just finish and go to Settings -> Devices & Services

spice briar
#

Okay...is there a version tag I can use to use a working version until the issue is fixed ? Or is this the only workaround?

fallen lichen
#

can try 2023.4.6

spice briar
#

thanks

long terrace
#

after initial setup I keep getting Error returned, (: System is not ready with state:Setup)

#

sad day

#

have fresh installed it several times and cant seem to get it working at all

tulip basin
#

i have installed hass inside home assistant container, but when I go to add the integration it says I can't do that from the GUI, I have to edit configuration.yaml manually, but nowhere I've found what to actually put in there 😦

#

it has a link to the documentation but that page doesn't actually mention anything about that

grand pivot
#

What integration?

tulip basin
#

oh my bad.. I installed HACS

torn roost
#

Hi guys, need some help with my installation. I've been running HAOS for the past year without major problems. But after I applied an update the other day (I think that was for 23.5 version), ha won't start anymore. Seems like the entire web interface/service has gone bonkers. I can still ssh to the rpi where ha is installed, and I'd like to try restoring a backup from there. Can anyone guide me how to do it?