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brittle sail
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you flashed with balena etcher or dd or something?

feral blade
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Thanks, the bios menu is straight forward without much hidden stuff... there is no option to go to legacy bios vs UEFI. I think its UEFI

feral blade
brittle sail
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yeah sounds about right

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not sure man should be pretty straightforward

feral blade
placid sage
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Hi there, i currently have Home assistance OS (x86-64) hooked into a INTEL X520 for networking

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it doesn't seems to be sending anything, despite my router picking up on it. is there any particular driver i need to download (if that's even possible)

brittle sail
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For haos?

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You give it some time while it starts the first time then it come up. If you have issue it’s DNS 100% of the time

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Except the other 10% where you think it is not DNS but it’s still DNS

placid sage
brittle sail
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For a pi and shit bandwidth it can be 30min but should be less

placid sage
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its running off of x86-64, so just on a old computer

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like i cant even get into it when its doing its thing

brittle sail
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Can you hit ip:8123

placid sage
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nope

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i had to revert back to the ethernet cable into the motherboard

brittle sail
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?

raven forge
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They are attempting to use a PC with a dual port PCIe 10G intel NIC. Personally I'd suggest using proxmox for this

placid sage
raven forge
placid sage
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there is only one network adapter shown, which is the ethernet port on the motherboard

manic bane
placid sage
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my cameras alone use up over 500mb/s in bandwidth to the router. its not so much about using the port on it, just the want to use a cable that isnt conjested

manic bane
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How many cameras is that

Also, that's still half a gigabit connection, HA itself isn't going to use 500mbps

placid sage
manic bane
placid sage
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hmm alright, might end up doing that in the future, is there at all a way to install drivers onto HA to atleast test and find out? or just not at all?

manic bane
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You can't install drivers

placid sage
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ahh dammit

manic bane
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If the NIC works in debian, then just run HA as a docker container

placid sage
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hmm, apparently there is a way

placid sage
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nvm, ill work on getting proxmox

copper steppe
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Other benefits with proxmox like remote management, snapshots, using machine for other things, nas storage, etc

wild plinth
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i'm having trouble finding the configuration.yaml file, I followed the guide but i can't find the add on file editor. I have a version installed on raspberry ( cotx helium miner) can anyone help me? Thank you

manic bane
wild plinth
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Home Assistant 2022.7.4
Frontend 20220707.0 - latest

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this what i see

manic bane
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So how did you install it, which guide

wild plinth
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it is a particular install. it's made from cotx website. they install for me

raven forge
manic bane
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But usually third party made setups don't work nearly as well as just HA either as an OS or on a docker container

raven forge
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Having a highly configurable/personalized software that benefits from/needs constant updates and maintenance being installed/maintained by someone else isn't optimal

manic bane
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HA is a monthly release system, right now the latest you're running is from July, 7 months ago

flint mesa
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hi guys , need help .i already install standard HA in CM4 emmc before i got yellow box , now according the guide for yellow box , i use USB to install HA for Yellow box system to nvme SSD , but still start up with emmc system . how to fix this ?

mild glacier
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Uughh, god, Been having problems with Energy counters being wron gand rolled from a backup which has now created more problems. Seems HomeAssistant doesnt seem to think any of my addons are running (MariaDB, ESPHome, Moqsuitto) etc arnt running, but when you try to start them the supervisor says "Cant start, its already running" -.-

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Very single step has made things worse haha.

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Thing is, they might be running

mild glacier
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OK, crisis 1 fixed, seems I had to power-cycle the entire Pi and its now detecting the state correctly, thats something at least -.-

hollow cave
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I need help for docker. docker-compose up -d

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ERROR: for portainer Cannot start service portainer: error while creating mount source path '/opt/portainer': mkdir /opt/portainer: read-only file system

ERROR: Encountered errors while bringing up the project.

manic bane
hollow cave
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how can I solve read-only file system

manic bane
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And in fact portainer can and has caused people issues with HA

hollow cave
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version: '3.0'

services:
portainer:
container_name: portainer
image: portainer/portainer
restart: always
stdin_open: true
tty: true
ports:
- "9000:9000/tcp"
environment:
- TZ=Europe/london
volumes:
- /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock
- /opt/portainer:/data

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I would like to install HA with the "real" docker

hollow cave
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services:
homeassistant:
container_name: homeassistant
image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
volumes:
- /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config #/opt/homeassistant/config:config #does not work
- /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
restart: unless-stopped
privileged: true
network_mode: host

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what is the conventional directory to use?

rough falcon
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You have #/opt/homeassistant/config:config #does not work - I think you're missing a leading / in front of config

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I think it should be like this instead
/opt/homeassistant/config:/config

humble scaffoldBOT
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@hollow cave I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
hollow cave
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I finally found the problem

nocturne root
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Hi there. I have a strange problem. I created a long live access token and i can access the HomeAssistant API via it but it seems i cannot manipulate any state with n8n. It says it has written the state (=off) but in HA the state is still on. What could be a point to look at ?

topaz atlas
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I'm unable to update HAOS from 8.5 to 9.5. In the web interface the update just times out and then if I try to use os update in the CLI I get an error that a job is already running.

brittle sail
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prob easier to just backup and restore on new version than fight it

kindred trout
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Can someone help me install my HA in Container (Supervised)

brittle sail
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No it’s unsupported and not suggested

kindred trout
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Its easy yeah bit very messy in docker

humble mirage
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Supervised is worse

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If you're reaching for Supervised it's either because you hate your future self, or ... because you don't understand

timid narwhal
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I'm having some problems with home assistant. Just randomly one day when I went to reboot my raspberry pi 4 with home assistant os running on it. It fails to load the supervisor. It just gives an error "system is not ready with state: setup"

earnest solstice
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Now that I got root access to HAOS I want to alter /etc/fstab but / is mounted read-only. How can I add an external disc to the system?

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It's so damn hard to integrate external media into home assistant 😉 How would I use plex media server w/o media?! 🤪

brittle sail
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Oh you’re wanting to run Plex as an addon? That’s crazy talk

earnest solstice
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Well. That's why it's hear I guess 😉

brittle sail
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Hear 👂🏻

earnest solstice
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At least I'd like to try

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here. Thanks

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Maybe I

brittle sail
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What hardware is this on?

earnest solstice
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n5100 celeron

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so x86

brittle sail
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Plex isn’t gonna love that

earnest solstice
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Plex doesn't like x86? Since when? I got it running on x86 for years. Just wanted it to move to some low power using machine

brittle sail
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Plex will run fine it’s the lack of ability to handle any transcoding that’s the problem

earnest solstice
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But let's forget plex and what ever. How would I be able to alter /etc/fstab? Is that even possible? I guess / mounted r-o is intended?

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Transcoding is not needed.

placid sage
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Hi, in the console of my Proxmox VM I'm getting:
[WARN] Home Assistant CLI not starting! Jump into emergency console...

However, if I ssh in or view the terminal via the Terminal & SSH add-on, I get the normal HA CLI.

Anyone knows what causes this, and is it a worry? Everything seems to be running as normal.

west thunder
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Not sure this is the correct area, but I was trying to move from a VM HAOS install to a NUC and after booting up the NUC and onboarding Home Assistant I did a restore backup from the VM. Everything (devices automation, etc...) shows up, but none of the icons in any of my cards show color changes, such as turning on a light the icon stays gray but shows a state of on. Everything is basically black and white, no color anywhere. But all the colors show up on my Cast devices. I tried a couple different browsers and cleared caches and so on, but no change. Any ideas?

humble mirage
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Sounds like a theme problem

west thunder
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Thanks, I'll try there. It's just weird since I am just running the backend default one

royal shuttle
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Rq question. I've got two mini PCs rn. One is running HA OS with a ton of addons. the other is running Ubuntu server. I know there probably is a way to run both of them on one machine but whats the best way to go forward with this?

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And should i do it?

humble mirage
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The way forward would be to install Proxmox and have two VMs... the question is why?

copper steppe
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Less hardware to look after, less power, less ethernet ports, easier to backup maybe, etc.

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But I think proxmox is the right solution imho; it's what I do.

manic bane
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Or move to a docker install for HA and keep a single Ubuntu based server

gusty veldt
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I was following the instructions on this site to install the docker contain for my QNAP NAS, but it did not have any of the “Advanced Settings”, but I continued with install.
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative/

The console is giving me these details and I cannot hit port 8123. what am I missing?

Unable to find configuration. Creating default one in /config
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: starting
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully started
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: starting
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: starting
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: starting
services-up: info: copying legacy longrun home-assistant (no readiness notification)
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services successfully started
Unable to find configuration. Creating default one in /config

raven forge
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You need to show exactly how you created the container and with which options. Also check the firewall

winter shadow
fallen lichen
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Developer Tools on the left sidebar

humble scaffoldBOT
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Various settings are hidden unless your user profile has Advanced mode enabled. These include some add-ons, the Lovelace Resources menu, server control options, and more.

fallen lichen
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^ If you don't have it

winter shadow
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oke ty

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got it

thick kiln
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Hi guys I was trying to restart home assistant on my custom url but it gives me "unable to connect to HS" error, I don't know what to do.

stark sphinx
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I have been using HA for over a year now, first install was great but now, I have had 2 power outages and lost UI access with the OS stuck in a reboot mode. raspberry pi 4 hardware and I did have the latest core updates. can anyone help???

humble mirage
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Possibly you've got a corrupt SD card now

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Do you have backups that aren't on the Pi?

brittle sail
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yesn't

stark sphinx
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I do have a backup but this has happened 2 times and its not fun, what am I missing? hard reboots should not cause this.

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is this an image issue?

humble mirage
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It's a Pi problem

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No computer likes sudden power outages, but Pis suffer more than most - particularly on an SD card

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Some battery backup/UPS will help

winter shadow
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can some one help me with the energy dashboard i cant select my Active power meter only the total are showing up

humble mirage
oblique ivy
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I need a config file from an encrypted backup, but it doesn't seem possible to extract it.. please tell me I'm wrong 🙂

fallen lichen
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you're wrong

frigid ridge
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is there a trick to get network_mode: host working?
tryin to get auto discovery & zeroconf on

brisk willow
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Nope. The host just needs to be some kind of Linux distro

frigid ridge
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is port 80 or 443 required or something?
i am under cgnat and those ports is also blocked

raven forge
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That's not really related

brisk willow
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Yeah, not related at all

frigid ridge
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i get connection refused.
no error in the container logs

visual sierra
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i've been hopping around from VM to Docker and now i'm looking into Proxmox. Is Proxmox the holy grail of setups?

fallen lichen
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Not any holier than a Docker install

brisk willow
placid sage
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Is it alright to run home assistance OS within a VM on windows server?

brittle sail
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Yesnt

placid sage
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Elaborate

brittle sail
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Yes but maybe a better scenario exists

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I prefer separating my smart home and my server and suggest the same

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Server down + smart home down = no fun

placid sage
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Or maybe I just run Debian without GUI and install it on that

brittle sail
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Yeah

placid sage
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Then just get custom drivers from intel

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Might give that a crack tonight, cheers!

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Ah, it needs to go on windows server, it runs supervised on Debian, not OS

brittle sail
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You’re asking for i pain

placid sage
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I mean, my NIC don’t work on the x86-64 version coz no drivers

visual sierra
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Setting up proxmox first time. It's wired to ethernet but I cannot access it from IP. I ran ip address but don't understand what to look for

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any help appreciated

pallid lake
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right ip/port?

copper steppe
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pastebin your ip addr | grep inet

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mine looks like

root@pve2:~# ip addr| grep inet
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
    inet 192.168.30.200/24 scope global vmbr0
    inet6 fe80::6e4b:90ff:fe48:8248/64 scope link
    inet6 2406:2d40:4100:12b4:2a87:baff:feda:4591/64 scope global dynamic mngtmpaddr
    inet6 fe80::2a87:baff:feda:4591/64 scope link

My ip addr is 192.168.30.200

visual sierra
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found a few online posts in proxmox. I basically had to update the /etc/network/interfaces to an ip within my LAN pool and the gateway. Then i needed to run ip link set enp0s up replacing enp0s with my own interface name from ip address

copper steppe
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didn't you pick an IP during proxmox install? (it's been a while since i did it)

visual sierra
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apt update works now, but i can't access it remotely even though i updated /etc/host

visual sierra
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i wasn't really sure what the ip link set enp0s up did but it worked

copper steppe
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default ip? unless that's within your LAN, that's no good 🙂

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that command just brings up the interface

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"turns it on"

pallid lake
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default isn't dhcp??

copper steppe
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I don't remember, but if it was, OP would probably have worked (assuming he's got a dhcp server)

visual sierra
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no default was 198.168.100.2

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and gateway was wrong too

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any ideas what to look into on why i can't connect on local device through IP:8006?

pallid lake
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and https?

visual sierra
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yeah https://<IP>:8006

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giving me refused to connect

copper steppe
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probably you changed network after it started, so it's a bit broken

visual sierra
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i rebooted? is that what you mean

copper steppe
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did you reboot after changing the network settings? might be easiest

visual sierra
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ah yeah i did

copper steppe
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after you rebooted, can you ssh to the box? on that ip?

visual sierra
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i can ping it but ssh connection refused

pallid lake
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reinstall fix the ip

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is simplest

visual sierra
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not a bad idea

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any other thoughts before i give that a go?

copper steppe
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seems easier

visual sierra
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oh this time install picked up right IP/gateway

copper steppe
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win 🙂

pallid lake
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yep

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you might have multiple dhcp servers on your network.

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if your devices are getting ip that are wrong

visual sierra
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bingo! we got access

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thanks all

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can't guarantee it'll be my last Q

pallid lake
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works better when install goes right

copper steppe
visual sierra
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any of them you recommend?

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Also do you guys prefer HaOS on proxmox or is there another configuration

copper steppe
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I've used the post-install scripts, haos, heimdall, uptime kuma, probably ubuntu and deb, etc

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+pihole

visual sierra
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this is helpful, running haos script now instead

narrow copper
split skiff
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Hey guys, been running home assistant for around 3 years now. Always run it within Docker with the network mode host. Since a month I reinstalled my server with alma 9 and reinstalled Docker with home assistant. For some reason, home assistant will not discover devices. For example I have a few Sonos speakers. When I search for them within the integration it just says it can’t find them, does anyone know how to solve this issue?

limpid heron
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Trying to install the home assistant on Rasberry pi 4 following the instructions.. waited for more than 2 hours still have the Preparing screen, did anyone face this issue? any advise on the next steps.

manic bane
limpid heron
lime beacon
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Hi everyone, I want to install everything from scratch, probably on a minipc. I don't want the OS version because I need to use the pc also for other stuff.. I'm evaluating the docker one, but what about the missing addons?
What do you suggest?

fallen lichen
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because I need to use the pc also for other stuff.

Docker

lime beacon
fallen lichen
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Sure... they're Docker images, you just have to find those images

grand pivot
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Or use HAOS in a VM

lime beacon
raven forge
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HAOS and its addons are very opinionated. This can be a good thing but depending on what you want to do it's very restrictive. I'd suggest you follow Rob's VM suggestion and try both

lime beacon
humble mirage
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You can run only what's available as an add-on

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If you want to run something that's not available as an add-on then ... you either build it yourself, or wait for somebody to do so

limpid heron
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Hello All, Instaling HA on Raspberry Pi 4 32GB card, getting the following error. Connected through the ethernet net cable directly to the Broadband hub.
23-02-25 14:40:33 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
23-02-25 14:41:14 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'Updater.fetch_data' blocked from execution, no supervisor internet connection
23-02-25 14:41:14 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

raven forge
# lime beacon Why restrictive?

For example the MySQL addon apparently doesn't allow custom configuration or the Mosquitto addon doesn't allow you to disable authentication.
As for the OS, gaining proper SSH access is a pain in the rear. At least in a VM. There's strange DNS issues (just google HAOS DNS) and it's just "different".
Getting help when the OS/supervisor has problems is mostly just restart or reinstall because, afaict, few people have intimate knowledge on the inner workings.
Most people just have more experience with a "normal" linux distribution. Giving people a specific path and sticking to it is great but to me it's just restrictive.
Whether that path is for you? Only you can say.

lime beacon
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Ok thanks, so with your experience you suggest the docker approach

raven forge
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I personally run HA in a docker container but installing/maintaining it and integrating things that you can get as addon yourself is more work.
Take VS Code for example. You'd have to install the docker container, configure (install extensions, give it api url, tokens, etc) and add it to the sidebar (iframe) yourself.
This additional workload might just not have the same cost/benefit ratio for you. HAOS is easier to start with and might do everything you need. Like I said. Try research/both 🙂
But to answer the question. Yes. I suggest the docker approach.

placid sage
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hey guys, i need some help by installing the SkyConnect stick 😦 someone might help me out there?

humble mirage
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Plug it in

placid sage
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i did, in homeassistant it doesnt get any connection it seems

humble mirage
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What hardware are you running HA on

placid sage
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intel nuc

humble mirage
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And the stick isn't detected at all?

placid sage
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well, it is detected

humble mirage
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Ok...

placid sage
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so if i check hardware, its listed there

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but if i try to config the integration, it fails

humble mirage
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Which integration?

placid sage
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i add ZHA to my integrations and then i see the pass for the stick, i submit and after that i have to choose a radio (?) and then it fails

humble mirage
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Then ... you're in the wrong channel

placid sage
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all right, sorry then

limpid heron
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Hello all, not able to find the any addons in my addon store for the HA installation on Raspberry Pi 4. Any setting needs to be enabled. Already tried enabling the Advance mode

minor orbit
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I cant find any addons in addon store either

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I am getting github error in supervisor logs, are you?

limpid heron
frigid ridge
normal whale
grand pivot
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you're not running a supported configuration

frigid ridge
grand pivot
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no

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use a VM & HAOS

frigid ridge
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yeah i guess i have to do that.
usbipd works the same way on VM as WSL?

grand pivot
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I don't know what that is

frigid ridge
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usbipd is the microsoft package to enable sharing usb devices over ethernet

grand pivot
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no idea

fallen lichen
normal whale
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I figured it out, thanks

raven forge
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Would be nice if you would share what you figured out

normal whale
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me?

raven forge
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Yeah

normal whale
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I had an issue with my nginx-proxy-manager not working with home assistant, so the link I was clicking in the HACS installation doc wasn't working right, once I fixed NPM, everythingg installed fine

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probably not going to help anyone...

blissful lagoon
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can you connect to a Bluetooth speaker inside Home assistant on the raspberry pi bluetooth or can it only do tracking

humble scaffoldBOT
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@stark sphinx I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
brittle sail
stark sphinx
brittle sail
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Can you use dpaste.org to post text like logs then share here?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@stark sphinx I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
blissful lagoon
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so tried to find a better route

brittle sail
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Not sure sorry

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Most of us use smart speakers like HomePod minis etc to do music or tts

blissful lagoon
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ah ok and whatrs homepod are they any good.. i wanted to link my Yorkville bluetooth speakers

stark sphinx
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Does mean my SD card is bad?

blissful lagoon
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trying to play an audio file from HA to volumio.. but i get an error... a column 1 error.. whats wrong with this script code... ```alias: "!!play audio to warning volumiio"
sequence:

humble scaffoldBOT
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@blissful lagoon I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
maiden ermine
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I'm really confused. I'm trying to install HASS to a Digital Ocean droplet, but when I run 'pip3 install homeassistant==2023.2.5' it says the most recent version is 2021.12.10. Any idea how to update this?

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pip3 is v20.0.2 but I've installed the newest v23 (it just doesn't appear in -v for reasons)

grand pivot
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You probably don't have Python 3.10

maiden ermine
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I do, from deadsnakes/ppa repo

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but maybe that's wrong

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I mean, I'm getting 3.10.10

manic bane
maiden ermine
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Yeah, I'm not using it for Home Automation. I'm using it to track mobile data usage on remote wifi hubs, so there's no reason for it to be in-house at all

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I also want to use Grafana with it, which seems to run better on proper linux systems (unless I can find a front-end dev to hire to create a custom card for the dashboard...)

maiden ermine
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Thanks for the help. Switched to using an OS image and trying that. Sleep for now...

brisk hollow
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hello i've got a question about installing the HA OS on a rpi3
i'm following the guide on the site : home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi

i'm trying to install it on a 128gb micro sd card and used the Balena Etcher in combination with the rpi3 github link.
i'm always getting the same errors in the preparing ha screen.

22-07-13 15:03:51 ERROR (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2023.2.5: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2023.2.5&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi3-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": x509: certificate has expired or is not yet valid: current time 2022-07-13T13:03:51Z is before 2022-07-19T00:00:00Z")
22-07-13 15:03:51 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
22-07-13 15:04:21 INFO (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2023.2.5
22-07-13 15:04:21 INFO (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant with tag 2023.2.5.
22-07-13 15:04:21 ERROR (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2023.2.5: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2023.2.5&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi3-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": x509: certificate has expired or is not yet valid: current time 2022-07-13T13:04:21Z is before 2022-07-19T00:00:00Z")

humble mirage
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current time 2022-07-13T13:03:51Z looks like your system doesn't have the correct date/time

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Make sure it can reach the Internet

brisk hollow
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@humble mirage it should be connected to the internet... but will check it and change it needed. thanks for the help.

humble mirage
#

The error means it couldn't sync the time, which usually means it doesn't have a working connection

brisk hollow
#

oke, thanks again... i'm going to fix it

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i'm a such an idiot... i used the wrong port settings on my router.

opal vine
humble mirage
#

What web browser?

#

Did you check you disabled any content blocker?

raven forge
#

Go back to the root and if that doesn't work try in incognito mode

jagged dock
#

I was having issues with installation and was going to ask for help, but then it dawned on me.: Home Assistant stable is not installable on Debian stable, nor testing. But 2023.3.0b3 works. Stable has Python 3.9 and testing has 3.11.something that makes aiohttp fail. It might be common knowledge (just not very well documented) but it might help someone

humble mirage
#

The docs say Python 3.10 for a reason

#

Or just use Docker

raven forge
#

I'd recommend docker as well but maybe you could try out pyenv to be somewhat independent from your OS' python version

humble mirage
#

pyenv works well - it's how my main install runs ablobjoy

jagged dock
#

I didn't know of pyenv.

I get that there is a dependency on 3.10, and I am fine with that. I was just extremely surprsed when it didn't work on Debian. That should be pretty non-special imho 🙂

humble mirage
#

The problem is HA isn't tied to Debian's update cycle, or anything else

#

HA's Python deprecation is well documented

maiden ermine
raven forge
#

Pretty much any installation method should work. Why trying. What's gone wrong?

maiden ermine
#

There's nothing I can do to install it on a droplet. Each slightly different way I try throws different errors. I know Supervised is almost unsupported, so I've been trying ways to use an OS version on any version that Droplets allow, following the official instructions

#

The Linux HA OS versions are all VM options. Running a VM inside a VM isn't a recommended procedure, but even breaking good practice I can't seem to make it work

#

Docker works, but then no addons

#

but maybe I'm overthinking something

grand pivot
#

you don't need addons

#

if you can run HA in docker, you can run whatever else you want in a container

maiden ermine
#

What do you mean? If I want to run Grafana, is that not an addon, and Docker doesn't have addons?

#

I think I missed something along the way haha

brisk willow
#

Add-ons are just pieces of software that you can otherwise install yourself

grand pivot
#

searched for "grafana docker image"

maiden ermine
#

But aren't they literally HA addons? Like, how does HA know I've installed Grafana, or does it just see it? I feel like I've been misunderstanding this process entirely

grand pivot
#

could be

#

Grafana has a whole life outside of HA

#

The fact that it's been packaged as an addon doesn't change that. And HA doesn't interact directly with it, any differently than you would with a container installation

raven forge
manic bane
#

HA add ons are packaged docker containers with a little bit of fluff
Everything can be configured by yourself anyway (it's what I do)

maiden ermine
#

omg. So much wasted time. I'll spend some time reading more about the addons, because I completely misunderstood them

pure tendon
#

I now running HA on a nuc, but I have a issue, every morning the nuc is off or in sleep mode, don’t know what. Can’t ping it. It’s a nuc serie 8. Have update to latest version. Any ideas how to fix it, guess it’s a setting in bios

manic bane
jagged dock
jagged dock
manic bane
#

Even core install assumes you're knowledgeable

manic bane
jagged dock
#

In any case: I only mentioned it if it could help someone else, not to start some kind of hot debate... could we just give it a rest? I had an issue, I solved it, I shared my experence, I am now being showered with information on how stupid I am that I did not solve it in 5 minutes instead of 15

jagged dock
manic bane
jagged dock
#

We re not saying you re stupid Just

maiden ermine
#

If I manage to install the HA image on a DO droplet (which I did), how do I actually start HA? Because it isn't running automatically the same way when I run in a local VM

low notch
#

droplet start homeassistant ? maybe

maiden ermine
#

droplet isn't a command. Are you messing with me? lol

#

Don't make me question my sanity.

pure tendon
manic bane
pure tendon
humble mirage
#

Home Assistant OS then?

#

Install Home Assistant Operating System

terse burrow
#

Hi, just finished my supervised install with Debian 11 on a new BMAX B3plus, and now trying to get Bluetooth up and running. Therefore I have installed D-Bus and BlueZ. So I think the only thing i need to do is make the DBus socket accessible in the docker container. (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/bluetooth#additional-details-for-container-core-and-supervised-installs)

  1. At the moment I don't have docker running as Docker Compose.
  2. Docker compose seems the cleanest way to add DBus to the containter
  3. is Docker Compose suported as official Home assistant Supervised
  4. Can I just add docker compose on top of my existing docker setup (based on HA Supervised)?
humble mirage
#

Supervised is a trap

#

You can't use compose files with Supervised

#

You can't install any other software on the host with Supervised

#

If you deviate from the requirements, expect your install to break without warning

terse burrow
#

ok, thanks for that advice ... Since I grown out of my RaspberryPi, I wanted to 'upgrade'.
Is it better then to run Homeassistant OS in a proxmox?

spiral zinc
#

Hi guys! I got grafana on my HA but it seems like an common error apperas if it's not updated to 9.3.2. How can i force an update on Grafana in HA?

terse burrow
manic bane
#

More flexibility and you're not adding a hypervisor for no reason

terse burrow
#

Damn, that's again another point of view 🙈

#

that means that every Addon I have from my backup (ha OS) I should manage myself in docker

humble mirage
#

There's really only two sane options:

  1. HAOS on bare metal
  2. Docker
terse burrow
#

instead of the addons.

#

(and proxmox with HAOS)?

#

and that's again up to me to decide if I want an extra virtual layer to it.

manic bane
#

Proxmox is unnecessary if you don't need VMs

spiral zinc
#

How do i install a specific version of Grafana on HA?

manic bane
#

Which for most people they don't

terse burrow
#

ok, ~~proxmox ~~ is out then.

#

So I can replace my supervised install, to a container install, on the same Debian os.

manic bane
#

Yes
It's very easy to manage docker containers
Use docker compose

terse burrow
#

I only have to reconfigure my NodeRed, and all other addons into docker

manic bane
#

It's very easy tbh
Half of them will have backups too

terse burrow
#

ans how do I restore them?

humble mirage
#

Depends on how you back them up

terse burrow
#

I have now a full backup on GoogleDrive.

humble mirage
#

I use rclone and rsnapshot - just rsync/scp the files back

manic bane
#

If you want the best set and forget, run HAOS on bare metal
You're still getting the same as the Pi, and still just as restrictive but its easy

terse burrow
#

thats true, and for now, I don't have any need for more complecity.

charred glade
#

How well does that processor run? Always thought Celeron was subpar but maybe runs fine dedicated to Home Assistant.

humble mirage
#

CPUMark of 4040... that's not sub-par

midnight zenith
#

Not sure where this question should go. I am running Home Assistant OS. I am working on writing a shell_command script that uses Python3. Is there a way to ssh into the docker container to test the script? I am currently getting errors when I run it through HA, but its not super helpful in the logs.

raven forge
#

docker exec -ti containername sh. Can't remember/test if bash is available right now

midnight zenith
#

ya, I tried that... docker is not a command

raven forge
#

You have to use the community SSH addon and disable protection mode for this to work. You can probably also just test the script on another machine depending on what it does

midnight zenith
#

The Terminal & SSH addon?

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I did.. .it works on my local machine, but does not from running the script in HA automation

raven forge
midnight zenith
#

thats why I want to run it myself in terminal on the HA machine to see if it gives me any more info than what is in the logs

#

got it

#

Ill try that... Than you!

#

.

raven forge
#

Do you have any logs/error messages? Can you try make the output log to a file to perhaps get more information? Actually, increasing the log level might be more useful.
Another thing I'd try is the full path to the executable. That's an ambiguous edit. Did it work now or?

midnight zenith
#

Sorry. PEBKAC. Container doesn't have access to /addons

#

Moved script to /config and it runs now

#

Looks like things are good right now... doing some final tests. Thank you for the help @raven forge

#

Plex.tv removed the tv guide magic... There is no way for my location to automatically download the guide. Getting something in python set up using zap2zml.py (port from the perl one) and thinking of making an integration that will automatically do this for you

cosmic cloak
#

is there any way to upgrade to supervised?, i use CasaOS

brisk willow
#

Don't use Supervised. If you want the Supervisor features, use HA OS on bare metal or in a VM

left agate
#

My HAOS keeps crashing on Mac OS/qemu. Anyone else faced a similar problem? It will run for a few hours and then crash

left agate
#

Specifically I'm getting errors like rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU

sand plover
#

Hey there, I have bought an amazon fire HD tablet & have home assistant running on my laptop through VirtualBox Linux server. I can connect to my home assistant server on my laptop, but not on my tablet. any idea what I am doing wrong?

humble mirage
#

What URL are you using to try to connect?

sand plover
#

my IP

humble mirage
#

And port 8123?

sand plover
#

I can connect through the generic browser on the Tablet but not through fully kiosk. I get the error net::ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR on fully kiosk

humble mirage
#

Ah...

sand plover
humble mirage
#

Well... that's expected

#

You're doing SSL in HA, and accessing https://192.168.0.42:8123/ .... of course the SSL certificate isn't going to be valid

#

Either:

  1. Move SSL to a proxy server
  2. Use the hostname in the SSL certificate
sand plover
#

Can you explain further please 😳

humble mirage
#

Which bit?

sand plover
#

well option 2 sounds more simple to me

humble mirage
#

You have an SSL certificate ... for some hostname

#

So... use that?

#

Same as you would if you were outside the house

low notch
#

except you have a cert for localhost 😄

humble mirage
#

Hopefully not

#

That'd be ... something rather special

sand plover
#

ok i sorted it out 😛

#

Dont ask me how because I dont actually know haha

upper trail
#

Hello friends

#

Virtual PC install on a NAS

#

observer says its healthy.. but it is not

manic bane
upper trail
#

🙂

placid sage
rotund slate
#

hey folks, does anyone here have experience integrating cloudflared tunnels with ha container? im starting to hit a wall

brisk willow
#

Yep, what issues are you having?

rotund slate
# brisk willow Yep, what issues are you having?

I have cloudflared setup on debian, I have HA setup in a container with docker compose. They arent talking to each other. As a fix, I am trying to spin up cloudflared in a container as well so they are both on the docker network but I dont know if it will work

#

When I navigate to my domain I get error 503 and the local tunnel says that it is unable to reach the origin service. Did you manage to get it running locally or did you run it in a container?

brisk willow
#

Check the HA log--there's probably a warning about an untrusted proxy if you didn't add this to the http: section in configuration.yaml:

use_x_forwarded_for: true
trusted_proxies:
- 172.18.0.0/16 # I used the Docker network range--customize to your setup
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I'm running the official cloudflared container, but you should be able to get it working with it on bare metal if that's your preference

rotund slate
#

Im going to try running it in docker- containerized is certainly my preference

#

I got to the http part- do you have a compose file you could send me to reference for your build or did you just docker run it

brisk willow
# 
  cloudflared:
    image: cloudflare/cloudflared:latest
    container_name: cloudflared
    restart: unless-stopped
    command: tunnel run
    environment:
    - TUNNEL_TOKEN=deeznutslol
rotund slate
#

actual goat- thank you

fluid dock
#

I used HA on a minipc, after some years I am reinstalling it on the same pc usign the HAOS, but it seems that after the usb boot, the ethernet card is not setup, nmcli dev status doesnt show it, but just docker0, hassio, lo interfaces

#

is it possible that the eth card is not supported to recent kernel? it is a generic intel one

#

nope, it doesnt work

rotund slate
fallen lichen
#

Pretty sure the token route is remote, where you set it up via the dashboard

rotund slate
#

Its finally talking to homeassistant! Still hitting error 400 because I think my config file is in the wrong place but thank you all so much!

#

Ill fire it in here and see if anyone knows:
volumes:

  • /docker/HomeAssistant/config:/config
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that is in the docker compose, and the config file is at docker/HomeAssistant/config/config.yaml

fallen lichen
#

You mean, config_uration_.yaml?

rotund slate
#

cheeky

humble mirage
#

Well, it's helpful if you're looking at the right file 😉

rotund slate
#

I changed the file name- still running up against "A request from a reverse proxy was received but your http integration is not set-up for reverse proxies"

#

my new sparkly configuration.yaml file has the http settings

humble mirage
#

Well... it'd have created it if you'd got the wrong name

#

So if there wasn't a configuration.yaml in the folder, you're looking in the wrong place

#

/docker/HomeAssistant/config isn't necessarily the same as docker/HomeAssistant/config

rotund slate
#

LMAOOOO I forgot to change that value in docker compose at first so now I have PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG in the base directory

#

and what do you know- a folder that is just docker

#

Lets gooo its working! Ill come give all of you a nice little peck on the lips if you want

fluid dock
#

so the HAOS cannot be installed on an intel machine due to the missing ethernet driver?

rotund slate
#

what intel machine do you have

#

but im guessing it uses non free firmware

#

a usb to ethernet should fix it, thats how i got debian to run on my dell

fluid dock
#

ubuntu and debian run correctly, the problem is with HAOS

#

01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Controller I225-V (rev 01)

#

this is the eth card

pallid lake
#

proxmox it

copper steppe
#

Yes, it's too new for the kernel that's in HAOS. Use proxmox is a good solution for now.

#

pfsense has the same problem with those NIC

kind osprey
#

hello, i've installed duckdns but now i can't access HA local with my non duck dns adress?!

humble mirage
#

That's perfectly normal

#

If you want to be able to do that you can't have HA handle SSL but need to use a (reverse) proxy server to do that (NGINX/NPM, Caddy, HAProxy, Traefik, etc)

viscid sigil
kind osprey
manic bane
kind osprey
kind osprey
low notch
#

you can edit the field though

kind osprey
low notch
#

just fill it in

kind osprey
#

i can't

low notch
#

you can, it just looks like its disabled

kind osprey
#

i am talking about the third line "url internal connection"

low notch
#

yes

#

your next problem is ssl verification because I doubt the app will allow insecure connections

kind osprey
#

ok i can use on the companion app my htpps://my-ip instead of duck dns

#

so if i understand if i connect thru my duck dns adress it doesn't mean i am not local?

humble mirage
kind osprey
#

sorry still in learning curve mindblown

humble mirage
kind osprey
#

ok now it's clear, but in automation i can't play local sounds on my google home mini....

#

in home assistant preference network "home assistant url" i put in "local" the duck dns adress and nothing in "internet". Should i put the duck dns adress in "internet" and the https: my-ip in the "local"?

kind osprey
humble mirage
#

If you're doing SSL in HA then you have to use your external_url all the time, and you can't set the internal_url

kind osprey
humble mirage
kind osprey
#

in home assistant...

humble mirage
#

Depends on what you've done

#

You should only have external/Internet set

kind osprey
#

ok

#

i will try

#

i am not sure to understand how i stay local while always connecting to my duck.dns.... i don't understand the concept....

manic bane
#

Because duckdns is just an address book for your router. It's not running anything through it

humble mirage
#

When you're at home you'll resolve it to your (local) WAN IP, and you'll connect to the router and back to HA

#

Alternatively, a reverse proxy server removes all of this

manic bane
#

Like when you go to google.com your computer converts it to an IP address and that's what it goes to (using DNS)

Duckdns is the same thing, just the IP is you

kind osprey
#

ok thank you for your time and help!!! Have a great day

tender hawk
#

Hi, I have an PIPO with Atom processor and touch screen 4G ram. There is windows 10. I don't now where is installed. There is no full size hard drive or ssd and there is no mention about disk in win "about". I would like to install there home assistant core as well use the touch screen for UI. I have trouble deciding if to choose windows installation (I try it install wsl, but since I do not use windodws I had trouble with power shell), install linux there (it do not react for live usb and I do not find how to get into bios) or HAOS (does it support touch screen?) Do you have same recomandation? Or link to block post about similar instalation?

low notch
#

home assistant os does not feature a desktop environment, no

#

you will have to find out how to enter the bios

iron cedar
#

Hey, I'm having the same issue as I had last year but the solution I referenced too has now been locked in some other channel. Could a mod check if this answer exists somewhere still?

humble mirage
#

It still exists there

iron cedar
#

I get "You don't have access to this link"

humble mirage
#

you'll be at the ha cli (ha >). Type login which will take you to the underlying shell --> #
then nmcli con show should show you one entry in green
edit that connection using nmcli con edit "Home Assistant OS default" (that should be its name)
then set ipv4.dns 9.9.9.9
save
quit
and finally ha host reboot

iron cedar
#

Thanks 😊

long sierra
#

hello, i installed HA 9.5 on PI 3 and i don t see port 8123 opened ? 4357 (observer is working) ... any ideas ?

quick hornet
#

i'm using a self signed cert. it's valid until 2070. it's been working for months without problems. today it no longer works. i get an error indicating that the certificate is invalid. as far as i can determine there is nothing wrong with the certificate. This only seems to affect edge. Has anyone else encountered problems recently?

copper steppe
#

Probably they updated and changed their default cert validation policy?

#

can you tell what it doesn't like about the cert? Too long validity window? Bad issuer?

quick hornet
#

it doesn't give any information about what it doesn't like. it just gives NET::ERR_CERT_INVALID which is unhelpful

copper steppe
#

can you right-mouse or whatever, and say "accept this cert" ? Or change security level of that website?

#

(aka trusted sites etc). FWIW I haven't run windows on my desktop in >10 years.

quick hornet
#

the cert was already installed and hasn't changed. and i've verified that both the root cert (in trusted publishers) and the ha cert for authentication are still isntalled, and they are.

#

i checked that the files were the same on the original and ha, and then made sure by copying over the originals again and restarting ha.

copper steppe
#

if nothing changed in HA or the cert, it's likely Edge changed, didn't it?

#

Looks like Edge 111+ uses it's own trust list, not the system one

#

That version is only a couple of weeks old

#

@quick hornet ☝️

quick hornet
#

thanks, i'll see what i can do

fluid seal
#

hi if I get the sonoff universal zigbee coordinator, and a aquara mini switch, will that let me control my WiFi bulb by connecting the USB to my pi on ha

#

I want to replace it my tuya hub and shitty knob shit from moes

brittle sail
#

well assuming hass can already control the bulb

fluid seal
#

yes it can control the bulb

#

which one should I go for?

brittle sail
fluid seal
#

ah sorry ty

north linden
#

Hi y'all. I'm trying to update my installation to 23.3.0 and it's failing. I think there's something wrong in the script. This is a linux container downloaded from the website.

23-03-01 22:12:24 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Updating Home Assistant to version 2023.3.0
23-03-01 22:12:24 INFO (SyncWorker_3) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2023.2.5 to ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2023.3.0
23-03-01 22:12:24 INFO (SyncWorker_3) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant with tag 2023.3.0.
23-03-01 22:12:25 ERROR (SyncWorker_3) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2023.3.0: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2023.3.0/json: Internal Server Error ("readlink /mnt/data/docker/overlay2/l: invalid argument")
23-03-01 22:12:25 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Updating Home Assistant image failed

manic bane
low notch
#

you get a 500 which usually means DNS but there's also a Internal Server including a readlink error regarding overlay2 reported so you might have corrupted data on top of that

versed badge
#

Hey! I've never used HA before but I've heard a lot about it. I wanted see how it all works out. What is the best way for a 'temp' install on a mac? Just to get a feel of it. I'm quite familiar with Python, so should I try that?

low notch
#

you will want a vm with either debian and docker setup or haos

#

running the python install will not make you happy

kind osprey
#

hello, i see on youtube people having in the automation page an on/off switch as well as a test buton by default on all automations line... How can i do it? Thank you

versed badge
low notch
#

not docker for mac, no

versed badge
#

hmm

#

alr ig ill do the vm route

versed badge
low notch
#

haos does not run on docker, operating systems do not run in docker

versed badge
#

aah

low notch
#

the ha container installation method is a pure docker install

#

but the problem with that lies in the implementation for docker for mac

versed badge
#

ic

low notch
#

yes, the kvm part in there makes no sense but virtualbox should work

versed badge
#

lol alr 👍

#

ty

tawdry flame
#

Im cannot start 2023.3 with docker container

#

Changing power on succeeded
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pkg_resources/init.py", line 617, in _build_master
ws.require(requires)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pkg_resources/init.py", line 956, in require
needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements))
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pkg_resources/init.py", line 815, in resolve
dist = self._resolve_dist(
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pkg_resources/init.py", line 861, in _resolve_dist
raise VersionConflict(dist, req).with_context(dependent_req)
pkg_resources.ContextualVersionConflict: (charset-normalizer 3.0.1 (/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages), Requirement.parse

frosty path
#

how do i setup the sky connect USB stick as a TBR?

#

I seem to not find documentation on how to do that

manic bane
brittle sail
long sierra
clear pollen
#

hey all! how do I reload my yaml "rest" entities? Doesn't look liek it's an option under YAML configuration reloading?

fallen lichen
#

Restart HA

clear pollen
#

Eeeek....so I'd have to fully restart HA every time I'd like to test a minor change? It will probably take a dozen times till I get it right...

#

that's crazy

hoary knot
#

Will you still have historical information if you auto_purge, or purge every x number of days, or is the historical data only available within those days? Certain things (like energie) I would like to see for years, to compare, for instance.

fallen lichen
#

recorder is responsible for history and logbook, but that's different from long term statistics, which is what the energy dashboard will use. To my knowledge those stats aren't purged (also supported by this: https://data.home-assistant.io/docs/statistics/)

hoary knot
#

Thank you!

hoary knot
#

Perhaps a silly question, but for all those sensors and such that don't neatly fit into a room... what is a good/clean way to organize them? How do you do that?

fluid seal
#

anyone have a good tutorial to install a supervised version of home assistant (my previous version i couldnt add add ons)

#

i assume supervised version gives you more features like operating system one but not inside os

#

raspberry pi

calm gulch
#

I have been struggling lately with my home assistant not loading addons, and giving this message "Not connected with the supervisor / system too busy!" on startup. I've been trying to clean my configuration file, although it's pretty simple already. I've tried searching online for info but can't find much. Is this something that's already well known?

#

And it keeps with this message "Home Assistant is starting, not everything will be available until it is finished."

crude inlet
#

@fluid seal very few will will recommend a supervised installation. You should go with HAOS on a pi if you need add-ons or a plain docker install

#

@calm gulch maybe check integration startup times? Settings > System > Repairs > upper right corner

sharp flame
low notch
#

username checks out

sharp flame
low notch
#

docker in particular gets you a 500 if the address does not resolve

sharp flame
#

Failing to connect to an upstream gateway should be 502, bad gateway

fluid seal
#

ok thanks

#

for some reason when i installed docker, the home assistant folders did not go where i wanted them to go, i could not locate the files so i use portainer to remove it, does this look right to you

sudo docker run -d
--name homeassistant
--privileged
--restart=unless-stopped
-e TZ=Europe/London
-v /home/adam/ha:/hass-config
--network=host
ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable

fallen lichen
fluid seal
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like this?

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i used a youtube tutorial idk why they but that there

fallen lichen
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Ancient? 🤷

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But yes

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That's better

fluid seal
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thanks working now

fluid seal
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where is docker-compose.yaml located i need to put my zigbee usb stick device id into it but i dont know where it is

vernal jasper
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Hello. I have been waiting for 30 minutes now 🤷‍♂️

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Preparing home assistant

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HAOS on mini pc

fervent shuttle
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UEFI Interactive Shell v2.2 EDK II UEFI v2.70 (EDK II, 0x00010000) Mapping table BLKO: Alias (s): PciRoot (0x0) /Pci (0x1,0x1) /Ata (0x0) BLK1: Alias (s): PciRoot (0x0) /Pci (0xD, 0x0) /Sata (0x0, 0xFFFF, 0x0) Press ESC in 1 seconds to skip startup.nsh or any other key to continue. Shell>

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Can someone help me with this?

brittle sail
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either need to turn off secure boot or change boot order i'd guess

fervent shuttle
raven forge
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Depends on your BIOS/UEFI

fervent shuttle
brisk willow
fluid seal
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oh okay turns out i didnt need it because it was already detacted on my dock

brisk willow
#

Ah yeah, you're running it in privileged mode (which IMO isn't a great idea, but it's in the official docs unfortunately)

molten beacon
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Hey guys I tried to install Home Assistant Core on my Ubuntu arm64 (Its a RaspiB4). After startig HA with hass I get a couple of errors.

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In the error I get also "linux-aarch64". Is It possible that somehow I does not detected the right OS?

brisk willow
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Any reason you're not running HA Container instead? That would save you some potential headaches

molten beacon
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I recently wiped the Pi completely because I had stuff in Docker and It bugged out quit a lot. Thats why I thought I try It without docker.

brisk willow
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I doubt Docker had anything to do with that

pseudo tiger
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Oh yeah, and python 3.10

raven forge
molten beacon
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but I'll remove it again and install the docker version

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it seems like there are other issue too

raven forge
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Try dpkg -S aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc. The package names and dependencies might differ a bit since you're using ubuntu.
I don't have an arm machine or PI to test this myself but this should tell you the package(s) that provide(s) aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc.
It's probably gcc-aarch64-linux-gnu but the command should tell you.

north linden
placid sage
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Hello all, I am running HA on Raspi in combination with MariaDB (V10.3) on my Synology succesfully since 2 years. This morning I installed HA core update V2023.3.3 at 9:13. Also I had a succesful minor update of my Synology OS (but no changes to MariaDB) at 9:40. I realized at around 10 that my Energy monitor doesn't load anymore. Also I get a repair message in HA stating that MariaDB should be upgraded to minimum V10.5.17 to avoid performance issues. There is also a link to a description of the issue (https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-25020) but the desctiption of the issue states that the problem only affects MAriaDB Versions 10.5.9, 10.5.13. Last MAriaDB entry in events table is at 8:31 (!) "homeassistant_stop". Anybody a clue what to do? MariaDB update on my synology not possible (doesn't show upgrade option in package), also I have doubts that this is really the issue. WOuld appreciate any kind of ideas.

empty bloom
humble scaffoldBOT
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Core stable

2023.3.1

Core beta

2023.3.1

OS stable

9.5

OS beta

9.5

Supervisor stable

2023.01.1

Supervisor beta

2023.01.1

empty bloom
#

@cosmic cloak #botspam is for bot information when you aren't helping others.

elfin ridge
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hello, my first time installing HA, went with the WSL install

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i can't connect to HA from another laptop

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in setting i have network - Exteernal acess diabled

humble mirage
#

WSL... did you use pip install?

elfin ridge
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yep

versed badge
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what is this warning?

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im just trying out ha for the first time

elfin ridge
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no warining, but i can't reach it

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only the setting External access disabled

versed badge
elfin ridge
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i will install it in the next few days on an SSD under a linux only env

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for now is just getting to know HA

humble mirage
#

It's probably Windows firewall settings

elfin ridge
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i disabled the firewall, no change

coral sequoia
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Hi someone help me, im install HA on SSD and on SD card Bootloader, im put first SD to RPI after few minutes im unlpug sd and plug SSD and it doesn't work

humble mirage
#

If the SD card has the bootloader you need it to boot

coral sequoia
humble mirage
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"in video"?

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We're not mind readers

versed oriole
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anyone here know how to reverse the open/closed status from a door sensor? I have one where it's actually "locked" when the status is OPEN and unlocked if it's CLOSED. Can't see where to customize these status'

opaque snow
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hey all... i have a REALLY stupid question. I just updated my docker container to 2023.3 but when I login and go to about, I still see 2023.1.5. Am I missing something? I got no errors when pulling the new container and starting it up. And yes, I removed the original container before updating. My script is: stop>rm>pull>run.

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Specifically, about says:

Frontend 20230110.0 - latest```
humble mirage
#

That process looks good, given you're not using compose files

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What tag are you using for the image?

opaque snow
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2023.3 which is what I see in dockerhub, was uploaded 21 hours ago. When I noticed the about page, I tried latest... same result.

vivid nimbus
#

I've been running HAOS in a VM using UTM on an M2 Mac for about a month now and about every other day the time in the VM gets thrown completely off (Sept 2059) and nothing works because HA thinks the ssl cert is expired. When I check the host interface, I always see this or something like it.

[30157.0283551 reu: 02-..: (2 ticks this GP) Idle-361/1/0x4000000000000002 softirq=283006/283006 fuss1.
(30157.0302231 reu: reu preempt kthread starved for 288245252820 Jlfries? g745309 fOx0 RCULGP_MAIT_14S(5) -›state-0x0 -›epu-3 (30157.0308861 rcu: oUnless rcu_preempt kthread gets sufficient CPU tine,
00M is now expected behauior.
[30157.031037] rcu: RCU grace-period kthread stack dump:
(30153.036108] rcu: Stack dump where RU GP kthread last ran:
vivid nimbus
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Specifically I m getting errors like

marsh marsh
#

Hey all! Is k8s-at-home still the go-to helm chart? I've got an arm64 cluster and I'm about ready to give up on k8s hosting for HASS

cosmic cloak
cosmic cloak
manic bane
cosmic cloak
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in egypt

manic bane
cosmic cloak
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What?!!!!! how ,,, it was working

manic bane
#

How is due to your country

placid sage
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i need hyper v in open all time to manage my alexa ?

manic bane
glacial grove
#

Anyone have any suggestions on how to get nvme temperatures? The SMART integration is broken and the official HDDtemp doesn't work with Hassio from my understanding?

stone hill
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Hiya.... I`am the new one and trying to install Home assistent on my Windows 10

fallen lichen
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Running into issues? Windows isn't really the greatest platform for it, but VirtualBox is probably the best/easiest under Windows

stone hill
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yes, i got vb but its stock ..

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at schell

fallen lichen
stone hill
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yes it says that it runs but didnt realy...

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how can i put in screenshots in here..???

high token
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maybe you're using wifi instead of ethernet?

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it's the most common problem

stone hill
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no .. i dint use wifi...

humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

stone hill
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ok.. iwill sign up @ imgur an will come back as soon as possible .. need to go to real life shopping bevore... cheers in advance..

high token
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don't need to sign up just copy paste your image 🙂

frail warren
grand pivot
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If you want to use HAOS, yes

frail warren
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Yea, I'm running on HassOS on the RPi4, no need to go with another option

raven forge
#

You could virtualize HAOS and do something else with the hardware as well

tranquil smelt
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Hey all, I'm getting started with HA running in Docker on a Intel NUC with a Z-Stick 7. I can see the USB device in Ubuntu but ls -l /dev/serial/by-id is failing. I was able to get Z-Wave JS UI working with /dev/ttyUSBX. I even added a z-wave device, but still would like to solve /serial/by-id. Anyone else figure this out?

raven forge
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Where are you executing the ls?

tranquil smelt
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Ubuntu terminal

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ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0
crw------- 1 root root 188, 0 Mar 4 14:24 /dev/ttyUSB0

raven forge
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Is there anything at all in /dev/serial/?

tranquil smelt
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No. Which makes this make sense.
ls: cannot access '/dev/serial/by-id': No such file or directory
Just don't get why.

raven forge
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Without the by-id I mean

tranquil smelt
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There is no serial folder.

frail warren
#

anyone had issues installing Balena Etcher during the Ubuntu Live USB process?

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i've been unable to install it via terminal, but I can get the AppImage to run. It gives me an error when trying to flash the HAOS image to the system drive. "if it is a compressed image, please check that the archive is not corrupted. the elevated process died unexpectedly"

floral sigil
#

Hello, I'm trying to install and run Home Assistant in a VM, my host machine is running Windows 10 and I'm using VirtualBox as the VM. I seem to have installed everything right and launched HA in the VM, just that I do not get an IPV4 address and I can't load the http://homeassistant.local:8123/ or http://homeassistant:8123/ (I'm assuming you open that in a browser right?).

I want to know do I have to physically connect my PC to the router via ethernet for all this to work? Thank you.

manic bane
floral sigil
placid dome
#

hey, has anyone tried putting home assistant on docker desktop? I'm about to try it but not sure where my configuration path should be pointed to, and if it will work due to needing libseccomp as a prereq

placid dome
humble mirage
placid dome
#

yeah didn't think of that actually, just wanted to spin it up to have a look about but might aswell do a VM then, cheers

humble mirage
#

You can certainly have a look, but any integrations that rely on any form of discovery won't work

neat socket
#

hi, i have a small HP Elitedesk 800 G2
and im about to try out HA in my home.
but idk where to start?
im not sure which HA OS i should download at first. 😛

humble mirage
neat socket
#

thanks, i was abit confused where to start.. i found a few different ways to start but couldnt figure out which was the right 1 xD

humble mirage
#

There's rarely only one "right" option

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Though, for your hardware if you want add-ons then that link is the way to go

neat socket
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okay, if i find it suitable for my home, later on im going to get an RPI4, is it the same method to start on RPI4 when time comes? 🙂

humble mirage
#

You want to downgrade?

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That seems like a terrible idea

neat socket
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downgrade? 😄

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isnt it better with the RPI4? 😛

humble mirage
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The Pi is a downgrade

neat socket
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oh. 😮

humble mirage
#

later on im going to get an RPI4

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Don't

neat socket
#

so the HP Elitedesk 800 is actually better? 😛

humble mirage
#

Depending on the CPU in it either a lot better, or so much better it's not funny

coral sequoia
#

Hi guys, after 2 days my HA on RPI stop working on SSD, where is the problem?

humble mirage
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Power?

coral sequoia
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LED- Red and Green always on

humble mirage
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Doesn't mean it's not power

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Hook up a keyboard and monitor, see what's going on

coral sequoia
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here is problem i dont have micro hdmi

humble mirage
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Then you get to force a reboot and hope

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(aka pull out the power, connect it back up, and pray)

coral sequoia
humble mirage
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Then ... you clearly have a problem

humble mirage
#

Is the SSD on a powered USB hub?

coral sequoia
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no

humble mirage
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Do it

coral sequoia
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i dont have hub

humble mirage
#

Buy one

coral sequoia
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tommorow I will try

coarse mango
#

I am running home assistant in docker. Are you supposed to shutdown home assistant before killing the container? I feel like "docker stop" is a bit harsh in case writes are being made to the db etc.

humble mirage
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docker stop should give it the opportunity to stop cleanly

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The main process inside the container will receive SIGTERM, and after a grace period, SIGKILL

coarse mango
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That's great to know, thanks!

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And it makes my life more easy 🙂

subtle escarp
#

I'm trying to figure out why I can see scripts to select as a service in automations, but I can't edit or create them.... the scripts list area is blank even though I know scrips exist???

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What is the location of the scripts file?

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/config/scripts.yaml?
Or is it
/config/configyamlfiles/scripts.yaml?

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Both files have scripts in them...

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But nothing shows in home assistant scripts list

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"We couldn't find any scripts"

unreal bane
#

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but is the restore process for HA to reinstall everything (add-ons, integrations, etc) and copy over specific data? Or does it do an image with the backup and then restore the image? Reason I ask is that I’m having trouble with a specific integration and some python errors. Wondering if restoring is something that could be worth a shot.

humble mirage
copper steppe
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@unreal bane which integration, which python errors?
A restore basically copies everything in /config afaik

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So restore probably won't fix it; depending on your specific error

unreal bane
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It’s the NUT integration. I can go pull the errors when back at my house. I recall it being a python error that my Google-fu says is related to corrupt pyc files.

copper steppe
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remove all the pyc?

unreal bane
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i tried

humble scaffoldBOT
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@unreal bane I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
hushed fern
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hello, and HELP help :)... my pi with my postgresql is diying... I've been able to export all the data to a dump file. Now I'm trying to import this dump in the maridb addon. To do so, I've installed phpmyadmin addon to import the dmp, but it start to read the file, then display a black screen. I've also try to do it on command line with ha addons run core_mariadb mysql -u hass -ppass -h core_mariadb -D hassbd < backup.sql, but i have an error on the -u. Anyone have any idea ?

raven forge
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PostgreSQL and MySQL/MariaDB aren't 100% compatible

hushed fern
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for sure but i need to try !

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my problem is to connect to mysql to import file as it's too big for phpmyadmin

raven forge
hushed fern
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too much error 😦

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any idea on how to migrate from PostGre to Maria ?

raven forge
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There's multiple tools for this. Just search for import postgres into mysql or migrate postgres to mysql. MySQL's workbench might be the easiest way. Do you absolutely need the data?

hushed fern
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yes i don't want to loose all my data for years

raven forge
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Well the other idea would be to keep Postgres and fix it from "dying" but keeping device history for years is uncommon, or at least not the default

hushed fern
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i've try all this day to get my pi running well again.

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oh perhaps i'm wrong with my config so

raven forge
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Not sure. You could explain the symptoms

hushed fern
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here is my ha config ```recorder:
db_url: !secret db_url
purge_keep_days: 7

influxdb:
host: !secret influx_server
port: 8086``` so you're right. all data are kept in influxdb not in the postgresql

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so i will only loose 7 days

raven forge
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Perfect. You can just start "fresh" then. I'd still be interested in the symptoms though. Maybe Influx is eating all your memory? We should probably switch to #general-archived though as it's off-topic

hushed fern
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oh no... my problem is with python library that broke my system.

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it's running like a charm for nearly 2 years now

hushed fern
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with the new database i've lost my history. Where is it stored by default ? in the mariadb/postgre ?

raven forge
#

homeassistant*.db

rugged plinth
#

Hi anyone noobie here I have managed to load an instance of HA using docker and a OS type install of HA so far.. but I can't make a dashboard have i got the wrong type .. Re Core or supervised or container type

hasty ruin
#

Hey, I'm having issues... Home assistant won't update. Clicking button isn't doing anything

Installed version
2023.2.5
Latest version
2023.3.1

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Have tried both browser and app

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No dice

brisk willow
rugged plinth
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Cheers Tediore I open Add a new Dashboard the wizard only lets me insert the 2 lines Title and Icon and switches Admin and Show in Sidebar which is already switched then bot r/h create.. that's it

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no Url for lovelace I assume it's just for the default Dashboard

manic bane
rugged plinth
#

And that's it! ok.. dumbo here.. yes then can i get an external card which i can config myself sorry for the dumbness moving on cheers 👍

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I was perturbed by U tube videos on the subject they all seem to have more tools on the sidebar that what my HA shows

humble mirage
storm geyser
#

Will HA install ok on an NVMe ssd?

humble mirage
#

Sure

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As long as the adapter is supported...

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(no, there's no official list, that'd make life too easy)

vast verge
#

Ah damn, does Chromecast not support the Webpage card due to it using iframes? :/ Trying to cash a lovelace view and the Webpage card is blank

humble mirage
#

Not really install related, but ... maybe?

vast verge
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Clicked the wrong one 👀

white bane
#

hELLO

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I started to install HA on my rpi 3 B+, but I get this error on the command: pip3 install homeassistant==2023.3.1
Can you help me?

humble mirage
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Unless there's a reason Docker won't run on that Pi, use Docker (HA Container) instead

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That error is almost certainly because you ignored the requirements for Python 3.10

white bane
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Docker takes performance on a raspberry pi 3?

humble mirage
#

No

white bane
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Why can't I do without?

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thanks

humble mirage
#

You can do it without Docker, but ... you need to install Python 3.10 from source

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And you need to do it correctly or HA won't run

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Then in December you repeat it for Python 3.11

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And next December for 3.12

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and so on

white bane
humble mirage
#

Root

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Always install software as root

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(or in this case, an account that supports sudo)

white bane
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okok

humble mirage
#

The script requires root or sudo privileges to run.

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The docs there are pretty good, it's worth taking a read through before you run it

white bane
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Yes

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It's true, it's better that I don't make a mistake haha

broken brook
#

Hey. Big challenge. I have a raspberry pi 3b at a remote location. It suddenly stopped when I updated to OS 9.5. I have a friend that can go in and restart the Rasp, it is then up and running for approx 1 hour then I can not access again. During this time I saw that everything seemed OK except the Z wave addon, that was not running, could not restart it either. Anybody have a clue what to do? Hope I explain it and posted it in the right place? If not point me in the right direction. THX

void pier
#

Since updating my Home Assistant a few weeks ago I've been experiencing huge issues with the stability of my system. It seems to be related to ffmpeg as this is used by both Scrypted and Frigate NVR which seem to be the addons that cause my issues.

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I just moved from Scrypted to Frigate NVR to see if it would fix my problem, but it didn't. Even bought myself a Coral TPU hoping it would make things work better.

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But when you turn off Scrypted/Frigate things start working perfectly

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With Scrypted/Frigate running I experience problems with Zigbee2MQTT lagging. It can take time to turn on lights, some become unreactive, etc.

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Scrypted and Zigbee2MQTT worked perfectly before updating Home Assistant a few weeks ago

humble mirage
#

Well, the FFMPEG in each of those is entirely separate

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What hardware are you running on?

void pier
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Previously I were running on Dell laptop with an i5 CPU, 8GB of ram, 100GB SSD, etc. I've just moved the SSD to one of my other computers with similar specs

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Just to see if it makes a difference

humble mirage
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How many cameras?

void pier
#

Running on this atm now that I'm testing
CPU: Intel Core i5 4690K (Not OC)
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 (Nvidia)
SSD: 255GB
Hard drive: 1000GB HDD
Hard drive: 300GB HDD
RAM: 24GB

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3

humble mirage
#

You're doing detection on the low res stream, or the high res stream?

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@void pier I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
void pier
#

2 of those. Stream is 2k and scaled down to 720p

Then 1 that is running on a native low-res 720p stream

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The 2 that are scaled down previously ran detections on lower than 720p with the same issues

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@void pier I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
void pier
#

That is the cameras that are scaled down to 720p

void pier
humble mirage
void pier
#

Previously I ran all 3 cameras on native 720p or lower with the same issue

humble mirage
#

AFAIK Scrypted has no detection capabilities anyway

void pier
#

...

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Sorry

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I'm a bit ttoo fast atm

humble mirage
#

That's fine... I can quickly block you and avoid the problem 😛

void pier
#

Yes, I'm very thankful for your help. I'm just so used to replying like that without thinking twice 😅

humble mirage
#

I'd take a step back. If Scrypted is also causing issues then it's not down to motion detection

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You'll need to spend time with top/htop/glances/etc to see what's going on on the host

void pier
#

I was running a motion detection plugin with Scrypted heheh

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OpenCV I believe

humble mirage
#

Turn it off, see if it helps

void pier
#

Good idea actually! I was considering if the network packets could have some type of a impact on the system. All constant camera streams over LAN

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I'll try to run Scrypted without detections

humble mirage
#

It shouldn't unless the hardware is seriously broken

void pier
#

Yea, I had an overheating issue a couple weeks ago so that was one of the things I considered. Just moved the SSD to my desktop though which is running just as bad

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Shouldn't be the SSD, right?

humble mirage
#

Shouldn't, no

void pier
#

My load is about 1.6 as well. Moves down to about 0.1-0.2 when Frigate/Scrypted is disabled

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Can get up to 2 too

humble mirage
#

Divide the load by the number of cores to get a more useful number

void pier
#

I see! Here is something which is a bit interesting too. The load doesn't fall directly when turning off Frigate. It takes about a minute for it to reach normal levels. Almost like it is clearing some type of queue?
https://i.imgur.com/HXl8YqL.png

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Just attempted to run Scrypted without OpenCV motion detection which seem to be causing the same issues

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Zigbee devices are still slow

humble mirage
#

Yes, the load isn't instantaneous

#

You need to check top/htop/etc

void pier
#

Could the cameras perhaps interfere with my Zigbee network? They are on Wi-Fi atm and I'm currently working towards connecting them with LAN

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That the streams cause so much Wi-Fi traffic that they interfere with my zigbee network

humble mirage
#

I mean ... yes, if you didn't pick your channels sensibly

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It's more likely that problems are caused by the Coral, or a lack of using a USB extension cable

void pier
#

Problems existed before the coral. My idea was that the Coral would improve the problems

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I'll attempt to run my cameras with LAN to see if that fixes the problem

#

I'm using a Unifi AC LR which is choosing channels itself depending on disturbance

humble mirage
#

Yeah, that's a shit idea...

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You can make them use a fixed channel

void pier
#

I'm realising this now! Didn't come up with the thought before that they could interfere so bad with each other. But makes sense now that I think of everything. I've just connected a temporary LAN setup for all cameras to see if there is any change

grand pivot
#

pick your channels, and don't turn on "auto optimize channels"

void pier
#

I think that I might have finally solved this problem after all these weeks of trouble. Just connected all cameras with LAN instead of Wi-Fi which instantly made Zigbee2MQTT work so much better. Thank you so much Tinkerer for standing out with my intensive typing and troubleshooting thoughts! heheh Really appreciate the will and dedication to help me! :)

#

RobC: Will do! Thank you! :)

hot ginkgo
#

Hi ... it seems my HA cant find updates (for HAos). I'm running 2022.12.7, but even if I manually search for updates, no one appears. I did recieve an update for Node Red today - so ... any ideas ? I'd like to get the 2023.3 updates.

manic bane
hot ginkgo
# manic bane What install method?

yea, not really an install, but I couldnt find a support channel for upgrades .... My HA is installed on a Pi and I'm trying to upgrade

manic bane
hot ginkgo
manic bane
hot ginkgo
manic bane
#

Well HAOS uses docker underneath but okay good to know you’re using HAOS

#

What do the logs say

hot ginkgo
# manic bane What do the logs say

interesting ... it says the "home assistant operating system update" was turned off .... I've restarted a few times, so perhaps it must be turned on somehow

hot ginkgo
coral sequoia
#

Hi guys i have question whats the better on Proxmox, VM and Docker and eveyrtihing on docker NR Z2M or VM and containers?

manic bane
hot ginkgo
hot ginkgo
zenith minnow
#

What's the recommended way to install HA on an Ubuntu system?

Moving from an RPI

brisk willow
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HA Container or HA OS in a VM

zenith minnow
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Is one a better choice than the other? Very comfortable using Linux so ease of install doesn't change anything for me

brisk willow
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Container sounds like a good choice then

zenith minnow
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Only thing I really care about is ease of maintenance once it's all setup. (Updating etc)

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I rather click a button than need to update via SSH etc..

brisk willow
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I guess HA OS then, but it's not difficult to upgrade HA Container

zenith minnow
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I'll take a look and compare the two thanks

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What runs on the PI, HA OS?

brisk willow
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Well any installation method can run on a pi

zenith minnow
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The default one then 🙂

brisk willow
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There's no default 😄

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It's probably a common choice for those using a pi

zenith minnow
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I'm guessing it have HA OS since I just wrote an image to a stick

zenith minnow
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What do you think of the supervised method?

I'd like to run HA on the bare metal, but also have an Linux OS that I can do other things on.

Running it as a VM (for HAOS) seems silly, and I really want the ease of updating and addon store etc so container is out of the picture for me.

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I'm assuming running it in a VM will also come with its own set of issues with USB / Networking too

grand pivot
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That is a misunderstanding of the supervised installation

raven forge
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Pretty much everyone will tell you it's a bad idea. Why would virtualizing it be silly? I think it's the best way to get the most out of your hardware

zenith minnow
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Maybe I misunderstood then. From what I understood the supervised runs directly in Linux without the need of a VM

raven forge
zenith minnow
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Ah I didint see that part.

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Yeah will go the HAOS route then thanks. Hopefully not too many issues with my ZHA/Zwave stick and reverse proxy

grand pivot
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The operating system is dedicated to running Home Assistant Supervised.
All system dependencies are installed according to the manual.
No additional software, outside of the Home Assistant ecosystem, is installed.

raven forge
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I'd still recommend virtualizing HAOS. You didn't answer why it would be silly to do so

zenith minnow
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It would be silly considering I thought the supervised method still gave me access to the base Linux OS.

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It's the obvious choice now

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Anyone that has this setup (HA OS) in a VM what are you guys running. KVM, Proxmox, Virtualbox?

Thinking of using KVM curious what y'all using

raven forge
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KVM through Proxmox. I only start HAOS when testing stuff or helping people though. My production HA runs containerized in a separate VM

rocky yew
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Hi all, is this also the place for backup restore questions? When so, last weekend i reinstalled HAOS again after it was not able to start-up again because it got out of memory issue.

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Now i tried a particle restore, It restored a lot except the automations etc.
Is there a way to install those back as well?

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Also i did not got back my dashboards as well.

proper mirage
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Good morning all... Have a certificate issue with the latest homeassistant container...

fallen lichen
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Explain what you mean by "have integrations that are still having SSL issues"

proper mirage
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I'm using an Octopi integration. It is complaining that it cannot connect due to a self signed cert

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(sorry for delay in replying... dropping kids at bus)

proper mirage
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I have a trusted root cert that I added

neat socket
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im trying to install HAOS on another pc right now.

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i made a USB with Ubuntu on, but i cant figure out how to install the HAOS through Ubuntu. 😦

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i got this guide yesterday but it only explains how to move the HAOS onto disc drive through "USB to SATA" 😮

crude inlet
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Within Ubuntu, download the x86-64 image, then open the Disks utility. "Restore" the file you have downloaded to the internal disk of the PC

neat socket
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so i dont need to download Balena Etcher on the ubuntu to get the HAOS? 😄

crude inlet
neat socket
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ohh, that sounds easier than the guide tells me xD

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never tried ubuntu before 😛

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what is the "Discs utility"? 🙂

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ohh, nvm 😭

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:)*

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when i restore the HAOS file to the internal ssd.
does it end up formatting the SSD when installing too? 🙂

crude inlet
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Whatever disk you choose will be formatted yeah

neat socket
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ok, thx, i will try it out. 😛

patent compass
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hi guys I am running HA with nginx proxy manager and now I can"t get certificates for my other websites because nginx proxy manager is catching all the trafic on port 80 (which let't encrypt uses to verify certificate if I understand it correctly) and redirecting to unknown hosts. All my websites are working fine on https://...:443 but well I don't have SSL cerificates. can u help me with that please? (using apache2 and virtualmin for other websites) 🥺

lucid temple
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hi everyone

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im new to home assistant

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i am looking to install home assistant on a Mac mini late 2012

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i have virtualbox installed

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wondering if you guys could help

grand pivot
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did you follow the instructions?

lucid temple
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yes i am stuck on a booting screen

rocky yew
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Thanks people who did not want to help me out earlier :S

white bane
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I want to reinstall OS assistant man, but I also plan to put a wifi repeater on it do I have SSH access? Raspberry pi 3

fallen lichen
lucid temple
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booting

patent compass
fallen lichen
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Is your zone hosted by virtualmin

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Overall... it seems awkward you're hosting completely different things on 80 vs 443. I'd recommend setting up subdomains for your various services instead, it'll make it much easier to manage

lucid temple
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anyone here who can help

patent compass
humble mirage
humble scaffoldBOT
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lucid temple
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how can i share an image in here

humble mirage
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Read the bot message...

fallen lichen
# patent compass ye I know but didn't know where to ask as I thought... No it just says that unau...

You'd have to share how your DNS is set up and how you're hosting HA vs VirtualMin/Apache in order to solve that mystery. But it sounds like they've got to have the same IP (are you self-hosting both on the same box? or port forwarding 443 vs 80 differently on your router?). You're only trying to use LE as you described above to get certs for the domains that VirtualMin has control over? (both the DNS zone and the actual host within Apache)

lucid temple
humble mirage
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That looks like either a bad image download, or that you didn't read the VBox instructions shrug

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Somebody who knows HAOS and VBox will hopefully be able to help you, but you did tick Enable EFI?

lucid temple
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yes enabled EFI

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tried an old image and the newer image

neat socket
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how do i turn off the HAOS the right way? 😄

humble mirage
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Use the option to shut down?

neat socket
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i cant find it. 😄

humble mirage
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Press c and start typing 😉

neat socket
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well, it made me loose the connection to the server, but the pc besides me with HAOS installed on did not shutdown. 😛

hushed fern
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hi, i'd like to switch my database from postgresql to mariadb (the addon once). But it's very hard to switch. So two options for me :

  1. someone here know a perfect howto to migrate
  2. i was thinking about backuping HA, switch my recorder setting to mariadb and restore. Will it works ? and will I keep history ?
    Thx for comments
raven forge
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We spoke about this two days ago. Have you tried to find a tools to make the migration? I also thought you didn't care about your 10 days of history

tribal shell
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I changed router and I no longer have the old router, my home assistant is configured with the old route, how do I configure it with the new one without losing all the data inside. the change was made in my absence and I could not configure anything. i set up homeassistant with an external link via DuckDNS link. I would like to be able to connect again can anyone help me?

humble mirage
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Assuming you configured HA with a static IP then it'll still be using that IP

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Configure your laptop/whatever with a different static IP in the same subnet

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Then you can access HA's UI using https://192.168.0.42:8123/ (or whatever the IP was) and reconfigure it to use DHCP

turbid cedar
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Hey guys,

I just moved and for that reason i freshly set up a new HA instance (using proxmox).

Before shutting down the old one, i changed the IP adress and now i removed access to USB devices (zigbee, home assistant, bluetooth).

Is there anything else i should do to make the old instance kind of read only? I just need it to see how i did some things before (to not re-invent my own wheels)...

fallen lichen
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Why not just backup/restore

turbid cedar
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A lot of stuff changed, so in general i want to start from scratch, i just want the ability to look for single things i did before

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both instances are within proxmox, so starting both at the same time is in general no problem, as long as they don't interfere each other (or more like the old one interfers the new one) somehow

fallen lichen
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As long as you don't use homeassistant.local to access them, they'll likely both broadcast that

turbid cedar
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usually i use the IP, can I avoid the old instance to broadcast that domain name?

fallen lichen
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I'd say stick w/ the IP and then you don't have to worry about it

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Probably just disable your integrations as well on your old one, depending on what you all have enabled and how your automations are set up

turbid cedar
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So just enabling them when i need something from them?

fallen lichen
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May just be fine to take a backup and reference the actual files within the backup

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What would you need from an active integration vs it being disabled?

turbid cedar
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some configuration I guess, im not sure. For the moment its limited to lovelace cards, but i dont know what i'll need in the future 😄

However the old instance will only be started when required, so i guess it should be okay

fallen lichen
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Yeah, I'd just say the integrations themselves should be disabled to prevent any fighting between your old and new instances, especially if you still have your automations still active

humble mirage
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Particularly for anything cloud based