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acoustic thistle
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They do learn!
Hallelujah!

dry compass
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hi, I was setting up duckdns for my ha, I guess I am having trouble figuring out the port forwarding, cause when check on the site canyouseeme.org my port cant be connected.

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the error it shows is connection timed out

manic bane
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Does your ISP allow port forwarding

dry compass
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I guess

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I have a tp link router.

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which one should I select

manic bane
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I have no clue, since you just cropped a pic of different protocols

odd marlin
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wow, gopher

dry compass
manic bane
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Yes. Whether the router allows it or not is irrelevant if your ISP blocks them

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Or has you behind CGNAT

dry compass
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ohk

wicked plank
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I have HAOS on my nuc, i opted to update haos from 9.0 to 9.5 an it has gone 25minutes and when i try to connect via browser im unable to connect? Help , what do i doo now?

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And, how long should an update take? Should i be worried? 😭

hidden trellis
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ok, so I made a fresh(first time) install of ha, installed some addons added some integration and devices, everything worked and I made a backup.
[1:18 PM]
then the SD card died (was not a new one) so I got a new one, installed HA and restored the backup
[1:19 PM]
the addons are there but according to the frontend, they are not started (they are) and I cannot install the ssh+ web terminal
[1:20 PM]
the ssh server works so from my main linux machine I can ssh into the system. but I cannot use the web terminal

manic bane
hidden trellis
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I have already tried

manic bane
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As in the host itself not just HA. The normal restart button does not restart the host

hidden trellis
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ok doing that now (ssh;d in and did a reboot

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that is a thing I was missing in the front-end a "shutdown/reboot" button

manic bane
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There is one. I just am not sure where it is since I don't use HAOS

humble scaffoldBOT
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Hardware

Open your Home Assistant instance and show hardware information

odd marlin
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dotsvertical > Reboot system

hidden trellis
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yup found it 🙂 well hidden

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aand everything is working now 🙂

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thank you very much

manic bane
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Yay

wicked plank
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Any tips on a nuc haos update that wont go through?

manic bane
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Jumbers is the MVP of finding stuff lol

odd marlin
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🧙‍♂️

hidden trellis
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you need people like that

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ha 👨‍🎓

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I have always done my home automation only with node-red, but making all those dashboards was getting tedious

low notch
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I have never touched node-red

hidden trellis
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I find node-red fun

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but not friendly for non technical people(like my wife)

frank perch
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I have 2 of the Nexus 7's lol

peak jasper
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Question: Why isn't there an ISO installer artifact created by the build/release process? It would make it so much easier to install because every hypervisor expects an ISO to install to disk, not a raw disk. Just providing a raw disk image makes installing (especially to hypervisors like Proxmox) quite a lot harder.

odd marlin
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You don't need to "install" anything, you just provide the image as a disk. I've never used Proxmox, but in virt-manager (libvirt/QEMU), you just tell it you're importing a disk

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Pretty sure Virtualbox does the same thing, but I haven't used it in years

peak jasper
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I've used both virt-manager and proxmox, and I found the process quite cumbersome, to be honest. The challenge is actually the work of dd-ing the haos image onto the virtual disk, which is usually not something that is very well explained in the hypervisor docs.

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not everyone uses a "file" for the virtual disk.

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(and that's talking from the experience of a 20+ years linux sysadmin)

low notch
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hypervisors in general don't care if its a iso or a ready disk image, they are made to load whatever floats your boat by provisioning. Its the UI and users making this troublesome

peak jasper
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Exactly, it is the UI of the hypervisors that is the problem, not the disk image in itself. Most of them don't have a "simple" option of "dd this file to the virtual disk and use that as your boot drive" workflow.

low notch
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dd this file? there is no need to dd anything

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you just point it to the drive image you want to use

peak jasper
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it is if you want to e.g. use a zfs zvol as your boot drive for haos

low notch
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that is not supported

dry compass
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I can't open the ha through duckdns domain, can anyone help pl;s

peak jasper
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@low notch Well, for haos it just sees it as a dumb ahci drive, it's the hypervisor's job to manage that part.

low notch
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no its your job to manage that part, thats why we are discussing this in the first place

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else they would release a .img with zfs zvol as format

dry compass
peak jasper
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You can't release an .img as a zvol, a zvol is just a block device, as any other, and every hypervisor on the planet supports virtual disks from block devices (in some form or the other).

low notch
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hypervisors can also just load the premade img and be done, no need for zvol

odd marlin
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The short answer is probably that creating and maintaining an ISO-based installer takes time and effort, and nobody has had any interest in doing so. It's an open source project after all, so if nobody is interested in doing it, then it won't get done

peak jasper
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@dry compass Are you running the duckdns client on your machine, and is it reporting any issues?

dry compass
peak jasper
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@odd marlin Of course that is the case, I'm just arguing for HAOS install process being different from anything else in the linux world, where an ISO installer is the defacto standard to release a distro. That's all.

low notch
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that is very much not the case for embedded devices

peak jasper
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I wouldn't call HAOS an embedded device, it's more of an appliance, and most appliance installers are also packaged as ISOs (for anything x86).

odd marlin
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At least half of the installs of HA are on Raspberry Pi or similar devices where you can't boot from an ISO. You just dump an image onto an SD card

peak jasper
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I'm just arguing if your storage is non-removable that process is more involved, which is made easier with a bootable USB/ISO installer.

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But it seems like I'm preaching to a wall here, so I'll go somewhere else. Thanks for be unhelpful and nonforthcoming of new ideas.

frank perch
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who was unhelpful?

dry compass
peak jasper
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@dry compass Where are you running the duckdns client?

frank perch
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"where"

dry compass
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ha

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home assistant

peak jasper
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addon?

dry compass
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yes

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and the site

peak jasper
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and what does the logs say for the addon?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@dry compass I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
peak jasper
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and have you portforwarded or used a reverse proxy to forward port 8123 from your router to your HAOS machine?

dry compass
dry compass
peak jasper
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I would not forward port 8123 directly, as that is unencrypted HTTP by default, although I don't know what the duckdns addon does to change things.

dry compass
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But the 2nd one should work

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thats why I added 2

peak jasper
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Does the duckdns addon actually spin up a reverse proxy? From the logs it looks like that, but I'm not sure. This is probably a question better answered in #add-ons-archived .

manic bane
peak jasper
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@manic bane I'm sure there is, but this is not about "magic" one-liners that hides the complexity. As someone who has run workshops for people getting started with Home Assistant the install process on RPIs is trivial, quite simple actually. But once you want to go a step up and install on a dedicated x86 box because you want some more power the virtualization route is an enticing one. Maybe I should make myself an iPXE boot environment that automatically boots up e.g. alpine inside the VM and lists the drives available and chooses one to dd the .img to and reboots. Maybe that's a better approach. Is there an API somewhere that lists the versions of the various disk images available for each architecture?

low notch
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haos is for those who have no idea about filesystems and don't care about performance as long as it runs. if you want to differ much from that you may want to chose a different install method (container) which gives you the most freedom

peak jasper
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yeah, I've been running Core for several years, but recently transitioned to haos to get the benefits of addons.

low notch
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there is no benefit

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its just docker containers

manic bane
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If you run container based install everything is just a few extra lines in a docker-compose

peak jasper
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the integrated authentication between addons is for sure a benefit

manic bane
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Very easy

manic bane
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You create a username/password for the addon, then set that in HA, job done

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Don't need to worry about anything

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If you want to create and support iso creation including an installer for the HAOS image then by all means go ahead with it

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HA is open source for a reason

peak jasper
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Sure, if I actually had time to devote to that I'd do it. For now I'll have to decide for myself if I'll take the time to write a feature request on GitHub or not. I don't know if you two represent the general consensus of how HA developers feel about this topic or not.

manic bane
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I'm not a HA developer anyway

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Just someone who doesn't use HAOS and thinks if you go advanced then go for something like container

peak jasper
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I've actually done advanced for quite some time, and now I'm trying to go simpler to reduce the maintenance burden in my spare time. Keeping on top of all the updates to components in my home lab is starting to become a chore, keeping me from exploring the interesting stuff. So the less stuff I need to manually worry about updating the better.

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Hence HAOS with addons

odd marlin
manic bane
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Then do OS level updates about every fortnight to monthly

peak jasper
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How do you handle breaking changes in your docker container's release notes?

low notch
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that is somewhat the wrong approach, as said haos is for the uninformed who does not care about any of that and just want it to run.
anything outside of that containment amounts in extraordinary work for you, container is the best for sleek performance and customizability

peak jasper
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You just blindly upgrade and hope for the best?

low notch
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breaking changes are the same for every install

peak jasper
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@low notch Not talking abotu HA breaking changes here, refering to @manic bane 's one-shot docker upgrade script

manic bane
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I check the release notes first

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Then go

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I hold off upgrading till I have time to fix anything

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The only HA instance that breaks for me is my Beta HA one because I never bother to update things on that until I test stuff out

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Since its very much similar to my main instance anything breaking on that is fixed on both before it breaks prod

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(And HA is the only one I've had breaking changes for, rest seem to work fine 😄 )

peak jasper
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Since I've started using portainer upgrading my docker containers is generally just a few clicks, but when you're running 31 containers across six different hosts it still takes a while to go through all the release notes and figure out the next viable version number (for the ones not running :latest).

manic bane
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All of my stuff runs latest really

peak jasper
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Luckily newreleases.io helps a lot out in that department to make it somewhat faster.

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I got burned by keycloak when they upgraded major release on :latest with massive breaking changes causing everything to stop working. Been careful since then.

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But I guess we're getting a bit off-topic here. I'll get back to my Prometheus deployment, which was on my agenda for today. Trying to migrate off my ELK stack for monitoring.

humble surge
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I just noticed the HA OS update 9.5, checking the releases notes it's only in the beta channel, but I'm not?

crude inlet
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The note needs to be removed probably

calm stag
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Hello Home assistant gods 🙂 I have been using home assistant for many month now and i am super addicted and happy. I have thrown to much time and money into this haha 🙂 And The new usb sky connect stick i have not been able to test yet 😄

Anyways I have run it on virtual box and i was planning to change PC to run it on. I made copy of virtualbox fully, but i get som EFI problems i think. Does anyone have an ide? Thank you in advanced

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Oh i was about to upload img but i see that i cannot do that?

wicked plank
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How do i browse and clone github files onto certain places in my haos?

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Or i cant browse installfiles when i installed the home assistant os?

static current
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Hello. I just got Raspberry Pi400 and have flashed Home Assistant to the microSD card. I get HA to boot but upon boot it does not get IP nor does homeassistant.local:8123 nor :4357 work so I can't reach it.
RPi's OS worked just fine with my network.

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My router is Unifi Dream Machine and I tried to connect to the RPi by having it directly plugged in to it and via Unifi Switch but no dice, RPi does not get IP for itself when it's booted to Home Assistant CLI.

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% ping homeassistant.local
ping: cannot resolve homeassistant.local: Unknown host

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Plot thickens. When running login, then nmcli con show and checking again with nmcli I get eth0 unavailable..

static current
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OK, minor update. Seems like I'm getting stuck on "Error: Can’t update config on eth0: Connection ‘Supervisor eth0’ is not available on device eth0 because device has no carrier" but I have no solution on how to continue from that. Any help would be appreciated.

fallen lichen
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That sounds like a network interface issue, not software. Cable not plugged in, bad cable, etc

static current
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Checked and cable is OK, worked fine on RPi's OS and is fully plugged in.

fallen lichen
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Link LEDs on?

static current
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Not with HA and just changed my cable and port from switch

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Yeah, just restarted RPi and same result. This is with different cable and port from switch.

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I also flashed HA 9.5., from 9.4., to my SD and that didn't solve the issue either

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To be clear; I'd want to run HA on a separate installation, i.e. on it's own SD card, instead of piling it on top of RPI's OS. Hence the separate SD card for HA and RPi OS.

fallen lichen
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Anything interesting in dmesg? I'd say you can try enabling auto-negotiate through nmcli but I'd be guessing at that point

static current
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dmesg|grep eth0 only gives "link is down" and then numbers and "renamed from..."

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nmcli device show : eth0 GENERAL.STATE 20 (Unavailable)

fallen lichen
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nmcli connection up ifname eth0 same error?

static current
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Error: Can’t update config on eth0: Connection ‘Supervisor eth0’ is not available on device eth0 because device has no carrier

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OCR ❤️

static current
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Last chance, trying to boot HA with image flashed to USB flashdrive. Probably does not work but have no other ideas anymore, unless manually editing wi-fi credentials to the configs but that kind of defeats the purpose, as wi-fi is, notoriously, unreliable

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Couldn't catch the error but it was along the lines of kernel failing to synchronize time within the 1m 30 s. Makes sense though as there's no connection

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But yeah, no, trying the USB flashdrive did not help. 😦

harsh hawk
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Is there a way to automate home assistant system updates?

static current
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Last update: went as far as to disconnect my router and switch and plugged RPi straight to my incoming ethernet; could still not get the connection to work so it's not my router nor the switch causing the issue but rather, to make a Mac analogy: some kext is not loading and there's no easy way to fix that.

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A start job is running for wait Until Kernel Tine Synchronized (52s / 1min 30s)

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(FAILED] Failed to start Wait Until Kernel Time Synchronized.
See systemctl status systend-tine-walt-sync.service' for details.
OK Reached target Systen Tine Synchronized.
OK Started Discard unused blocks once a weck.
OK Reached target Tiner Units.
Starting Hass0S AppArmor..
OK Finished HassOS AppArnor.
Starting Docker Application Container Engine..

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That's the last logs that I could capture. I'll resume this at another time but leaving those in case they help in any way.

static current
storm sluice
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hm the joys of toy computers

sand aurora
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Hi, I'm trying to setup Home Assistant on my raspberry pi 3 and I've already burned the HA image and on the sd card and booted the raspberry pi but I can't access it through the browser (which the last instalation step) but if I ping the ip adress of the pi ,which I got from connecting a screen to the pi and entering the command line, it says its connected.
Any idea on how to fix it?

fallen lichen
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How are you navigating to it in the browser

blissful lagoon
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i think i should posted here not general?.... but is there a spot on a new install of HA to put the backup file.. im fiding the 20 min wait is stuck least 2 hours... i not sure if HA is down where it gets the initial setup but can i copy the backup file to a location on a newly installed HA so it can read it and install from that? as i went from SD card to SSD. using a sabrent adapter in the blue usb port on a raspbery pie 4 and i using a 240gb kingston ssd

odd marlin
blissful lagoon
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ok ill check it out... as i was having ha corruption error and the date and time was set 2 days earlier.. so figured id move from a sd card to ssd as i been told before u wanna run ha off ssd not sd card... but ill check out link

odd marlin
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If your SD card has gone bad, you'd want to start with a new SD card as well. Once you move the data disk though, the SD card becomes mostly read-only, except for OS updates

storm sluice
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isnt that even worse? now you need both to work..

blissful lagoon
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the sd card i guessing gone flaky as it doesnt always boot... and it cant sync the time.. and you get the error of ha critical error.. and i dont have a spare 32gb sd card.. i do have a spare 8gb sd card.. but how do you do a full restore cuz wont it try to first install on a sd card then you gotta move to ssd card... so i guessing i need another 32gb sd card first then right

queen bronze
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Anyone ever see a problem where after a backup restore your addons appear to not be running from the frontend?

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As in they are all grayed out and if you go into one you can click start even though it's already started

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They are actually running, it's just the frontend. Nbd, but thought I'd ask. Maybe something I could report

odd marlin
storm sluice
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its probably a problem with cached stuff in the browser

queen bronze
queen bronze
odd marlin
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Every time I've seen somebody mention addons not working after a restore, a reboot of the system fixes it

storm sluice
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its a good idea either way to make sure your stuff actualy works

queen bronze
queen bronze
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This is just my test box. I'm just noticing now because before my addons were completely broken after restore for disk space reasons. Making a fix to my provisioning so it resizes the VM image first

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Had some worrying issues before where it looked like my mariadb backups were all corrupt

blissful lagoon
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so i re formated my sd card re installed HA on it and its been more then an hour and still stuck on preparing ha that it install under 20 min... i had a monitor hooked up the rpi4 only thing that failed was ther kerneal sync clock whatever that is.. and its sitting at the login screen... and like the usb drive i was trying to install my pfsense says my rpi4 is only using like 300 bits/s to the pi so its not installing or anything.. whats going on? is the pi broken? and i dont have a keyboard on the pi... but ya browser still stuck on it should only take up to 20 min

low notch
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apparently your pi has trouble reaching the internet

blissful lagoon
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hmm its dns is setup to 1.1.1.1 it was working but i figure might try installing on a different pi and then just shove the card in... maybe ill plug a computer on the cable of the pi and see but internet should be working

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but ill trouble shoot some more

low notch
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you can try a usb ethernet adapter if your ethernet port is suspected defect

spare heron
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I am installing the core on a pi, right when running hass i got ImportError: cannot import name 'contextfilter' from 'jinja2' (/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.7/site-packages/jinja2/__init__.py)

odd marlin
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Core is really not a recommended install method and is meant for experts. You're better off with HAOS or Container

spare heron
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ah ok, lemme use container then

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thx

brisk willow
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container4lyfe

spare heron
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What would be a good path for the config?

odd marlin
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/opt/homeassistant or something is a good place for those kinds of things if you like to follow Linux filesystem conventions, but it really doesn't matter

spare heron
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Okay, thank you!

blissful lagoon
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i couldnt install HA on my 1 raspberry pi wanted to re install it.. couple hours didnt work.. now i trying to install it on a working one.. and its also been stuck for an hour where it says takes 20 min.. at webpage that says it will only take up to 20 min.. is it needing internet to setup or it is just unpacking files? if its needing internet.. is there a way to test if the server it gets its files is down?

spare heron
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god i just updated docker from 17.x.x to 20.x.x lol

spare heron
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why in the creation of earth did i put a 16 gig sd into my pi 💀

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the god damn thing errored after 20 minutes of pulling because i have no storage lmfao

little yarrow
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im planning to switch my home assistant install from my current docker install to a dedicated vm running home assistant OS. anything i should know before i start?

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was just going to do a backup from the home assistant settings, will that be enough?

odd marlin
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Yes just restore the backup and you're good to go

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Sometimes if you have a large backup then the web uploader can fail, but you can always go through the initial setup, install the Samba add-on, upload the backup, and then restore that way

spice shuttle
little yarrow
little yarrow
spice shuttle
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I only ask bc i used Virtual box under windows and that was hell (incredibly slow) so i didnt want you to have to go through that 💀

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Switched to ubuntu server and it works incredibly well

little yarrow
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thanks for the warning

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i am having a tone of issues with my docker VM (not just HA but that is the main thing) so i want to get it on its own VM so it is more robust

spice shuttle
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I heard ppl love using proxmox hope that works well for ya

little yarrow
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and i figured if im doing that i might as well use HAOS so i can use add ons

spice shuttle
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I run scrypted, homebridge, HA, and plex media

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Ya its worth having OS for addons

little yarrow
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i keep my plex stuff in a separate VM for the same reason

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is there anything you loose going from docker to VM?

spice shuttle
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Im not sure if you look on the HA website youre gaining not losing

brisk willow
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also i'm guessing you know this already, but add-ons are just pieces of software you could install standalone and connect to HA

odd marlin
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You give up the flexibility of installing whatever you want for the convenience of addons which are essentially Docker containers with some additional magic to integrate more deeply with HA

little yarrow
# brisk willow what issues?

basicaly the whole system crashes. it is something on that VM because i left the VM off for a week and had no crashes where it was crashing at least once a day befor

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and by the whole system i mean i had to go hold the power button on the proxmox box

little yarrow
odd marlin
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That's basically my approach to HA. I run HAOS because it just works, does it own thing, makes all its own backups for me, and if I want to do unsupported things I just install them on other machines

brisk willow
little yarrow
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the VM? Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS

brisk willow
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yeah

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silly ubuntu

little yarrow
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my plex VM that dosnt seam to have issues is also Ubuntu but 20.04.0 LTS

brisk willow
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debian4lyfe (for servers at least)

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i like ubuntu for desktop though

little yarrow
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honestly i just picked at random, never really worked out the pros and cons of each

odd marlin
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I've been running Ubuntu Server for years on a bunch of personal machines and a few thousand at work, and it has always been rock solid

little yarrow
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oh, my proxmox is also quite out of date

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gonna need to fix that before i can install the VM

meager fjord
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I currently run HA in python env. however i'd like to find a way to keep it HA automatically updated. are there any options for that?

odd marlin
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Core (python venvs) is not a recommended install method. You should really consider Container or HAOS. Regardless though, automatic updates of HA is not a good idea because of breaking changes

static current
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Hello, it's me again. So to summarise; I was troubleshooting yesterday for my RPi400 as it couldn't get eth0 enabled no matter what I tried, common error being "Connection 'Supervisor eth0 is not available' on device eth0 because device has no carrier". I've now tried to connect the RPi to my Mac with ethernet to see if I could get them to connect but alas, no dice.

With all of my testing now done, excluding buying an USB to ethernet adapter, would it be correct to assume that the RPi itself has a faulty ethernet port?

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It does though work just fine on RPi OS.

low notch
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No lol. If it works in rpi os it works.

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You‘re just doing something goofy

static current
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OK, not ruling out that though as I tend to have bad luck with HW. 😄

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That was my thought as well.

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But an annoying problem to solve though. Seems like a few people have this issue as well but there's no common nominator as there's not enough data. My current suspicion is that my Unifi Dream Machine having some issues. I've also flashed HA to the SD now a few times and also tried from flashdrive in order to rule out broken bootable media or corrupted image.

low notch
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Is the image for the 400 ? Not sure if that works

static current
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I tried with Raspberry Pi imager and chose image for RPi 400.

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Just checked and image for RPi4 and RPi400 is the same, according to the RPi imager.

low notch
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Yes rpi os comes with everything for all of them

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But haos… is a different story

static current
low notch
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Anyways, you want to get rid of that unifi 💩

static current
low notch
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Every day there‘s about 20-50 people coming on this discord with either: IP not working or DNS not working. Every damn time.

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And it is always HaOS

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I‘m not sure but yeah its totally possible that they‘re doing something nasty, just go with a container install. Way less headache

static current
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That's unfortunate as I would rather have RPi running it due to low power consumption. And now that I finally, after 1,5 years of waiting, managed to grab one..

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If I can't get this to work I might have to consider that. More to learn then as Docker is something I've yet to use..

low notch
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You would be up and running a long time ago if you focused on docker alone

static current
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Heh, probably true but wanted to rule out hw failure and to learn what's wrong and how to fix it, as RPi would still be my preferred option.

low notch
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You bought a keyboard with a computer attached my dude

static current
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Yeah, so?

low notch
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You waited 1,5 years for that?

static current
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Not that specifially but overall, for an RPi

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To cut it short: I've been interested to run HA and would have liked to run it on separate device, where RPi comes into play. RPi's have been under the rock since the pandemic and managed to find one now, though not exactly my preferred option but good enough, hence RPi400.

low notch
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no problems with a container install. i promise

manic bane
manic bane
static current
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Yes, I'm still on my return window if need be. I was more so focused on RPi as I've been interested on it for a while now

manic bane
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It is very much a toy/ education tool not super great for production

meager fjord
spare heron
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Can I only flash the OS on Pi 4 an 3?

low notch
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what else do you want?

spare heron
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I have some old 1B laying around

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💀

low notch
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last time i tried rpi1 setup it took almost 3 hours

spare heron
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that thing a potato lmfao

dry compass
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Hi, I recently setup duck dns but I ran into a problem, the ip in the duckdns website changes to my pc ip for no reason whereas it whould be my internet ip. Is there a solution to it?

low notch
dry compass
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I was deleting it from that section, cause this is a installation query I believe

low notch
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someone of the 11k people will eventually respond when they have time and a similar setup

blissful lagoon
#

i cant seem to install HA is the file server down or something? i did a clean install on the sd card.. and i left it over night and its still stuck on 20 min.. is it a glitch in the os its not setting up... or does it connect to a website to setup files and if so is it down?

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i cant seem to install HA is the file server down or something?

tawdry glen
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have you tried restarting it

blissful lagoon
#

ya i have both just sit on the prepairing home assistant this can take up to 20 min

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ive tried different browsers too nothing

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i just posted on the community forum maybe someone seen same issue.. try to expand my help but i dont understand

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cuz internet works at the network cable.

humble scaffoldBOT
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@spare heron I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
spare heron
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the whole pi died after that 💀

tawdry glen
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Oof

tawdry glen
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oh wait, that doesn't seem like a download issue at all

blissful lagoon
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no where i mean is the os downloading when it sits at the 20 min or is maybe something corrupt in the os

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i have tried both etcher and raspi installer to install HA

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then i boot up and i goto the website and it then says the takes up to 20 min

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if i have a screen plugged into the pi i get to the login screen

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and thats it it never sets up

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so i wanted to know if its not connecting to a website to download or maybe something corrupt in the os .. this happening on 2 pis now i tried

hexed mirage
#

there seems to be issue in the dockerhub in some of my cloud VM, the images are not pulling for dockerhub

manic bane
#

Why do you have ha on a cloud VM

storm sluice
blissful lagoon
#

how you check the logs at console?

storm sluice
#

on the ha cli try "su logs"

blissful lagoon
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it says "/bin/ash: su: not found"

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im guessing because ha hasnt set itself up yet?

odd marlin
#

That sounds like you're at a shell rather than the ha> prompt. In that case it would be ha su logs

blissful lagoon
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lot of errors can ill see if i can screen caputre with my cell phone.. on the HA community page i posted what i got when i typed "ha supervisor update" gbcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2023.01.1: 500 server error for http+docker//localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2023.01.1&fromimage=gbcr.io%2fhome-assistant%2faarch64-hassio-supervsior&platform=linux%2Farm64: internal server error (“get “https://gbcr.io/v2/”: x509: cerficate has expired or is not yet valid: current time 2022-07-14100:45:002 is before 2022-07-i9t00:00:002”) ill try to get a pic with my cell

odd marlin
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Your system clock is wrong

blissful lagoon
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ah wont let me post pic... i know a week ago HA reported a critical error.. and the link they offered on ha website said try these things didnt fix it.. now i did 2 new installs.. of ha neither has gotten past the 20 min preparing... so reason i figured maybe corrupt thing or it cant get to website it needs files for that maybe its down

odd marlin
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Seems like something is preventing it from reaching an NTP server to update its clock

blissful lagoon
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here is the link to the HA community i asked in there.. the pics i couldnt post here are on the bottom of the page

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how do you force HA to use 192.168.0.1 as the ntp server then

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that way it forces ha to continue the setup

#

or how do i ping the ntp server to see its working

#

from the console

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but i dunno why does time block HA from being able to installed

odd marlin
#

The underlying NTP settings (as with the rest of the OS) aren't meant to be changed. You can see the NTP status with timedatectl timesync-status

odd marlin
blissful lagoon
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here i thought orginally when you download HA for raspberry pi the file is downloaded and when you burn it to the SD card the os there and it just sets up locally that it doesnt need internet.. least thats orginally how i thought it worked... so do i type timedatectl timesync-status at the console?

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and can i ping the npt from console to see if its reaching

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i tried to nano /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf but there is no nano as i was gonna get it to point to 192.168.0.1

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i did find a google . says make a file in the boot location on the sd card a timesyncd.conf i did [Time] NTP=192.168.0.1 so hopefully that gets me started

odd marlin
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Like I said, the OS isn't meant to be modified. It seems like you have some sort of networking/firewall issue that needs to be resolved

blissful lagoon
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it started 1 week ago

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least on the computer havent re tried on the pi

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guess that didnt work... i did cat timesysncd.conf on the pi and it is [Time] FallbackNTP=time.cloudflare.com #speed up-boot as first attemp is done before network is up connectionretrysec=10

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so i dont get what to check look for or test

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so how do i force to sync.. what other options are there

oblique yoke
#

Hello !I am currently struggling to run the docker ha on my raspberry pi B. I get the message "connection refused" either on my windows browser (http://RASPBERRY_IP:8123) and from my ssh connection to the pi (wget -p localhost:8123). I have a pi-hole running on my PI which is plugged to my internet box. What can I do ?

oblique yoke
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I can access the pihole web interface properly from my windows computer

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Also it seems that I don't have any .yaml configuration file in my docker HA directory

shrewd depot
#

I’ve been running HA through Docker for many years now, is there any benefit to ”upgrade” to HA OS on say a standalone RPi?

fallen lichen
fallen lichen
shrewd depot
fallen lichen
#

All the add-ons are are Docker containers that are managed for you... less flexible (but "easier to maintain") than DIY Docker

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Again, depending on the RPi, you may run yourself into resource issues w/ add-ons

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RPis are fine for starter systems or things that aren't too active, but not great for anything else

shrewd depot
#

I was looking into HA yellow but it doesn’t seem like id get anything more than i already have

oblique yoke
fallen lichen
#

Just like docker logs homeassistant

oblique yoke
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s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: starting
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully started
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: starting
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: starting
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: starting
services-up: info: copying legacy longrun home-assistant (no readiness notification)
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services successfully started
[17:19:01] INFO: Home Assistant Core finish process exit code 256
[17:19:01] INFO: Home Assistant Core finish process received signal 4

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Normally if I ping localhost:8123 from my pi it should respond ?
pi@raspberrypi:/var/log $ wget -p localhost:8123
--2023-01-29 17:25:25-- http://localhost:8123/
Resolving localhost (localhost)... ::1, 127.0.0.1
Connecting to localhost (localhost)|::1|:8123... failed: Connection refused.
Connecting to localhost (localhost)|127.0.0.1|:8123... failed: Connection refused.

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On port 80 (my pi-hole webserver I guess) it says "connected"

fast rapids
#

Hello everyone !

#

I have a quick question. I just did a fresh install of Home Assistant OS 2023.1.7 on a NUC. And all the add-ons (SCS, Node-RED, File Editor) keeps restarting randomly every few seconds (30-60 seconds)

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Can't find any resources online about this issue. Any recommendations?

fervent vapor
#

After installation, how can I connect my Pi4, to internet using WiFi instead of ethernet?

odd marlin
humble scaffoldBOT
#
Network

Open your Home Assistant instance and manage your systems network configuration

fervent vapor
#

Which means I was to use URL during installation?

#

START UP YOUR RASPBERRY PI
Insert the boot media (SD card) you just created.

Attach an Ethernet cable for network.(missing this at my place how can I go about it??)

Attach the power cable.

In the browser of your Desktop system, within a few minutes you will be able to reach your new Home Assistant on

odd marlin
#

oh, if you don't have a way to connect to ethernet at all, you'll have to connect a monitor and keyboard and change the settings via the CLI

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If you're at the ha> prompt, then network update will give you the relevant arguments

hasty raven
#

does anyone know how i can install an ssl certificate that i generate from my internal certificate authority

odd marlin
static current
# low notch no problems with a container install. i promise

Some troubleshooting, cough 11 hours later but including life and other stuff, I think I found the issue with RPi 400 and connection. It seems like there's a bug and either the ethernet driver is missing or not loaded upon first boot for the onboard ethernet port. Once I changed to USB to ethernet adapter I got network online. I do have some modifications done to the system now so I'll have to double check if the issue comes back with vanilla HA OS 9.5.

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I'll try to test this further tomorrow and post to github about the issue, if I can verify it. But in short: if someone has an issue with RPi400 (possibly 4 as well) not connecting to internet at all during boot to Home Assistant Command Line (CLI) but it works in Raspbian: more than likely your install might not have loaded ethernet drivers or they're missing, try using USB to ethernet adapter, instead of your network having issues (at least in my case). That worked for me.

urban dock
#

Hello... I am trying to install HA fresh on a RPI4. I used the HA OS image and followed instruction but the install is stuck on preparing Home Assistant, should take 20 minutes screen. It's been stuck there since yesterday. Apparently it has something to do the time on the RPI. So my question is, how can I adjust the time on the RPI ? I don't think SSH is enabled by default. And even iit was, which user would I use as a login since I can't get to the UI to create one... Thanks !

supple warren
#

HI,
After updating to HAOS 9.5 the website:8123 no longer works, the observer goes to port 4357 and shows:
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy
it run on RPi4...
A login via ssh is possible, but what can I do there? apparently there are not m,al log files under /var/log/ ...???
What can I do to start the environment again, even a reboot from the RPi didn't help.

scarlet oar
supple warren
#

How can I do that?

scarlet oar
supple warren
#

ok, i fou dit
[core-ssh ~]$ ha core check

scarlet oar
#

took a while to run on mine

supple warren
#

Wasn't due to HA, it was an error on my part, I had created a yaml file that was empty, he probably didn't like that.

#

So now I know what to do with the ssh login... I'll have to read up a bit.

oblique yoke
#

I don't have any .yaml file in my "ha" folder, is it normal ?

#

I juste have a "core" file

manic bane
#

File or folder

#

And what install type

oblique yoke
#

I used docker

#

And it is a file

#

That's so weird

#

I tried this on my WSL2, and it creates more files and folders

hasty raven
#

How do i create the ssl certificate becuase when i sign the cert request it will be in cer format

#

and the key will be .key

#

so if i change somethning in config.yaml do i have to do anything? or does it find it automatically?

brazen herald
#

You'll need to reload that integration or restart HA. But do a config check before you do either of those.

humble scaffoldBOT
hasty raven
#

switch:

  • platform: remote_rpi_gpio
    host: 192.168.40.51
    ports:
    11: Doorbell Button
    12: Voip
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would that work for a remote gpio raspberry pi?

left agate
#

I finally figured it out! Got hass-os working on macos with qemu, so much faster than the s**** virtualbox.

frozen epoch
#

MARIADB: ERROR: Got unexpected response from the API: There is already a MySQL service in use from core_mariadb

#

I am trying to solve the problem above, I have found a few references in Github and Discord to this issue...but I can never find the resolution.

#

Does anyone here know how to fix it?

#

(Note: HAOS running on Synology Virtual Machine Manager)

humble mirage
little yarrow
#

trying to setup a VM with home assistant to port from a container and it has been stuck on the restore for over half an hour, any ideas?

humble mirage
#

It's often recommended that you do the standard onboarding and then restore, that way is more likely to work

little yarrow
#

thanks will do

little yarrow
#

ok how do i restore once i have gone through the standard setup?

humble mirage
little yarrow
#

thanks

warm plover
#

Hello everyone,
I have home assistant installed on my SD card for my Odroid N2+ .
With the latest OS update to 9.5 the SD card failed and now im looking into installing HA on a SSD.
I have a USB ready SATA SSD but the Odroid wont seem to boot directly from the SSD.

What are possible solutions to this, if any.
I've looked online but couldnt find anything helpful related to this issue

left agate
#

Has anyone set up a vlan where devices with access to WiFi are isolated on a separate network with no access to the internet and only home assistant can control them?

low notch
#

yes

brisk willow
#

Yep

hidden trellis
#

so my homeassistant keeps crashing, third time today

#

and the only thing I can do is restart the pi, I already restored a backup on a new sd card but it keeps crashing

#

it is a very new install with only 4 addons and HACS addes

#

I am quite good with linux (been using it for more then 20 years) but without access to any of the systems logs (usually in /var/log/*) its quite hard to find the problem

#

the power supply is a standard original raspberry pi psu and its running on a pi4

#

anybody any idea where to begin?

#

according to the about:
Home Assistant 2023.1.7
Supervisor 2023.01.1
Operating System 9.5
Frontend 20230110.0 - latest

gentle depot
hidden trellis
#

wow why is there so much dns lookups

brisk willow
#

By design, apparently

hidden trellis
#

52 in one minute?

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Jan 30 17:07:15 homeassistant hassio_dns[452]: [INFO] 172.30.32.1:41654 - 23401 "PTR IN 164.178.168.192.in-addr.arpa. udp 46 false 512" NXDOMAIN qr,rd,ra 46 0.032689607s

humble mirage
#

There's a few forum threads, and issues, about it

brisk willow
#

status: wontfix

humble mirage
#

Upgrade your DNS server with go-faster stripes

hidden trellis
#

hmmz I am using the dns server of my internet provider

brisk willow
#

With your Linux experience, HA Container might be a more desirable option for you

hidden trellis
#

reading about it, is the addon store still available with that?

grand pivot
#

no. But if you're using a container for HA, you can just do the same for whatever services you want

digital patio
#

Hello, i'm having an issue with my install showing as unhealthy. It seems to be related to "Home Assistant WebSocket API". What is this? I'm not clear what it is used for and how i can resolve the issue. It's blocking any updates due to the error.

hasty oxide
#

dunno how to clear your block, but here's docs on what the websocket api is for

#

tl;dr -- it's an API endpoint so stuff can talk to your home assistant install using websockets for a constant data stream instead of one-shot POST calls

manic bane
digital patio
#

HAOS on rpi 4 with SSD

#

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/aiohttp/web_protocol.py", line 334, in data_received
messages, upgraded, tail = self._request_parser.feed_data(data)
File "aiohttp/_http_parser.pyx", line 551, in aiohttp._http_parser.HttpParser.feed_data
aiohttp.http_exceptions.BadStatusLine: 400, message="Bad status line 'Invalid method encountered'"
2023-01-26 23:53:28.075 ERROR (MainThread) [frontend.js.latest.202301040] :0:0 ResizeObserver loop completed with undelivered notifications.
2023-01-26 23:54:38.772 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.websocket_api.http.connection] [547807341024] Error updating Home Assistant Core 'HomeAssistantCore.update' blocked from execution, system is not healthy - setup
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/hassio/update.py", line 303, in async_install
await async_update_core(self.hass, version=version, backup=backup)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/hassio/handler.py", line 51, in _wrapper
raise HassioAPIError(data["message"])
homeassistant.components.hassio.handler.HassioAPIError: 'HomeAssistantCore.update' blocked from execution, system is not healthy - setup

errant basalt
#

Does the secrets.yaml support jinja?

grand pivot
#

You can put Jinja in them, but it's just a text substitution

#

So the part that matters is that where you use the secret supports templates

left agate
# low notch yes

Great! Could you share any resources on how to go about it?
So the wifi devices have zero access to the outside internet?
Are you able to access Home Assistant from the web, outside your home?

spark halo
#

Hello 👋 Just getting started with Home Assistant and I’m currently stuck at the preparing Home Assistant screen for about 30 minutes now. Any suggestions?

grand pivot
#

Click the blue dot

spark halo
#

Installation

low notch
warm garden
#

Hello everyone, I'm trying to install Home Assistant OS on a raspberry pi 4. I am not able to get the web page to open. Looking at the display output i see that it give the message [WARN] Home Assistant CLI not starting! Jump into emergency console... Also the kernel network time sync seems to fail. Could this be causing issues? Do you guys have any ideas?

fossil plover
#

Can anyone help I can't input to domains field at addon Let's Encrypt

humble mirage
fossil plover
placid sage
#

Weird error. Fresh install using the guide but get this error: Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": x509: certificate has expired or is not yet valid: current time 2022-07-13T12:18:40Z is before 2022-07-19T00:00:00Z")

#

Seems like it's not getting the correct network time

placid sage
brazen herald
placid sage
brazen herald
#

Did you already use login?

#

And what does date output?

placid sage
#

I actually solved it now. Don't know why it worked but installing raspberry OS first and then installing home assistant seemed to have done the trick

dry compass
#

Hey, I was recently setting up duckdns. But there's something which is blocking me to work it out. My ISP provides 2 public ip's, I want duckdns to access my ip which shows on my router, is it possible to do so

#

I have configured my router to show ip on ha

humble mirage
#

When you say want duckdns to access my ip are you using the DuckDNS add-on, or integration?

#

(or something else to update the IP)

dry compass
#

Add on

humble mirage
#

Then #add-ons-archived may know what's possible there, but the other option is to disable that and manually update it

dry compass
#

My ip changes everyday so manually wont be possible

#

But ill go in the add on and ask if something helps

tall mason
#

#/settings/websocket

#

Hey all I've spent days now and cannot seem to find a way to enable websocket support using the NGINX add-on. Have a Shelly HT Plus and the device connects to HA, but with no entities. Tried with wss and ws, with IP, and hostname. The only thing that seems to connect is ws with hostname. ( NGINX is being used for SSL and that works fine. Based on all my reading web socket support needs to be added to nginx. I can't seem to figure out how to do that using the add-on version though. I think perhaps a custom file of some sort...

humble mirage
tall mason
idle lily
#

Anyone else using portainer to manage their container install?

I tried stopping my stack, and redeploying with the pull latest image option selected. But it still just stays on 2023.1.7, not 2023.2

grand pivot
#

nobody should use the "latest" tag

#

use "stable"

idle lily
#

Ahh looks like I do have the stable tag

#

So im guessing 2023.2 isnt marked as stable yet

grand pivot
#

it's in beta

low notch
#

tbh homeassistant is the only image I know not using :latest for the latest stable

humble mirage
#

Also portainer has a habit of breaking stuff...

mortal tapir
#

hey guys so im setting up home assistant on on my windows 10 pc using virtual box every time i start it gets hung up on this screen and i cannot connect to http://homeassistant.local:8123/

manic bane
swift quiver
#

I am running odroid with home assistant OS, how to install from commandline anything in the operating system (no access to apt-get)? I have problem with date/timeand i would like to have ntp installed so time is synchronized over internet

odd marlin
#

HAOS already uses NTP. If the clock isn't syncing, you likely have some sort of networking issue

swift quiver
#

thats strange because it has access to the intern

#

no problem with getting the sensor data from tuya etc

#

no firewall that is brutal and cuts out everything

crude inlet
#

And it's an embedded os. There's no package manager

odd marlin
crude inlet
#

There's a Chrony addon you could use

swift quiver
#

but chrony is a server from what i read so if my local time is bad than it will not help right?

odd marlin
dry compass
#

is there a way to call an entity in an add-on config?

humble mirage
#

What do you mean?

#

Few add-ons interact with HA's entities (I'd say none, but I'm sure there's going to be one that uses HA's API or MQTT)

dry compass
#

I want to call an entity to tell my ip in duckdns because I have 2 public ip's

humble mirage
#

#add-ons-archived can tell you if that DuckDNS add-on supports it - but the docs for it will tell you

#

I'd expect the answer is no

dry compass
#

👍

dry compass
#

i want to show ip which is shown in my router

#

have configured the entity for it but how do I call it in the config is what I dont know

humble mirage
#

You need something that shows you that IP in a URL

manic bane
placid sage
#

Running into some weird things when trying to install home assistant OS on a raspberry pie 4. It gets stuck in the install with the following error. Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": x509: certificate has expired or is not yet valid: current time 2022-07-13T11:39:14Z is before 2022-07-19T00:00:00Z") seems like that it doesn't pick up the correct time on install, and I can't find any options for that when flashing the sd card?

cinder thorn
#

hi im from Iran i can't update my home assistant server because internet problem with my government i have a VPN on my phone but i can't share it with my server anyone knows a way i share my VPN with my server (i use napsternetv with a config file to access free internet)

low notch
#

internet sharing usually works around vpns running on mobile clients, which leaves you with the current situation you are in

#

you'd need a vpn client on haos or on your router

placid sage
#

Is there any way you can set system time from the console?

low notch
#

you can try timedatectl

placid sage
#

it fails during headless setup, and I try to figure out how I can set the time for it to actually see the certs as valid

low notch
#

it not being able to fetch the current time is a sign of no internet connection, manually adjusting the time will not get you further in that case

placid sage
#

Its connected with ethernet to a managed ubiquiti switch and since I can visit homeassistant.local the connection seems fine

low notch
#

a working homeassistant.local is no confirmation of a working internet connection

placid sage
#

Ah, you're one of those.

humble mirage
#

What? They're somebody who applies logic?

frosty path
#

Can't read Supervisor data: System is not ready with state: setup

#

Error during setup of component hassio
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/setup.py", line 253, in _async_setup_component
result = await task
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/hassio/init.py", line 587, in async_setup
await repairs.setup()
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/hassio/repairs.py", line 149, in setup
await self.update()
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/hassio/repairs.py", line 157, in update
data = await self._client.get_resolution_info()
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/hassio/handler.py", line 51, in _wrapper
raise HassioAPIError(data["message"])
homeassistant.components.hassio.handler.HassioAPIError: System is not ready with state: setup

placid sage
humble mirage
#

You know, if you don't want help there's easier ways of going around it

#

Being an ass to people trying to help you is a great approach to it though

placid sage
#

Neither is being an ass to people asking for help....

humble mirage
#

I think you're confused

#

a working homeassistant.local is no confirmation of a working internet connection
is not being an ass

#

It's a statement of fact

low notch
#

you probably need to check your dns settings, your homeassistant device does not appear to reach the internet as said

frosty path
#

how can i troubleshoot hassio issues?

#

it won't startup correctly

low notch
#

what does it/the logs say?

frosty path
#

there is a more complete log as i can not upload here or create messages as file

humble mirage
#

This page is no longer available. It has either expired, been removed by its creator, or removed by one of the Pastebin staff.

humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

frosty path
pseudo dune
#

Hi, I'm having issues installing this specific orjson-3.8.1.tar.gz, when trying to do home assistant core install, homeassistant==2023.1.7

#

ERROR: Could not build wheels for maturin, which is required to install pyproject.toml-based projects

humble mirage
#

Any reason you're using a Core install and not Container (Docker)?

#

This is an advanced installation process, and some steps might differ on your system. Considering the nature of this installation type, we assume you can handle subtle differences between this document and the system configuration you are using. When in doubt, please consider one of the other installation methods, as they might be a better fit instead.

#

(I'm going to guess that the full error tells you that you're missing something, probably cargo)

paper patio
#

Hi, I encountered this issue:

Home Assistant observer
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Unsupported
Healthy: Unhealthy

Do you have an idea how to debug and fix this?

humble mirage
#

Is that a Home Assistant OS install, or a Supervised install?

paper patio
humble mirage
#

Home Assistant OS then

humble mirage
#

That eliminates most of the common errors, unless you installed the Portainer add-on

paper patio
humble scaffoldBOT
#

@paper patio When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
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And ... if you pay attention... it tells you to Click to disable

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Well failed though...

paper patio
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I dont know this function... I clicked it multiple times. Dont know if it is enabled or disabled now.

Anyways, I dont know what "eliminates most of the common errors, unless you installed the Portainer add-on"

humble mirage
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Easy... if it says @ OFF then it's off

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Did you install the Portainer add-on?

paper patio
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No

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I should?

crude inlet
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No

dreamy spindle
odd marlin
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Core isn't a recommended install method. You should probably use a VM

humble mirage
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With Core it assumes you can translate the instructions to your OS

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(The instructions are also the same, even on Windows, which is ... amusing)

dreamy spindle
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Okay I don’t want to go down the virtualbox route. What is the KVM way, that didn’t make sense to me

humble mirage
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On a Mac M1 you'll need something like UTM instead

paper patio
humble mirage
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Yeah... stop tagging me in replies 😉

dreamy spindle
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Okay, I tried that now. So to get Bluetooth to work have to do proxy or usb plug?

paper patio
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Haha ok if that helps...

low notch
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you should probably go the linux vm + container install, I doubt the aarch64 image will boot in utm

humble mirage
frosty path
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what about my issue that HASSIO decided to stop working?

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is there anything i can do to troubleshoot it somehow

paper patio
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You mean the logs? Any specific system log I should check? F.e. Home Assistant Core?

humble mirage
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Nah, in the UI, but somebody who uses HAOS will have to guide you if you can't find it

paper patio
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Ah I thought you meant the logs in HA UI (in path /config/logs). Ok maybe someone who uses HAOS can help me?

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Btw, do you know if there is a difference between HA Observer and HA Supervisor?
In the UI I found some system information which differs a bit from the HA Observer:

Home Assistant Supervisor
Host Operating System Home Assistant OS 9.5
Update Channel stable
Supervisor Version supervisor-2023.01.1
Agent Version 1.4.1
Docker Version 20.10.22
Healthy true
Supported true

crude inlet
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@paper patio the observer can tell you if the supervisor is running

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you use :4357 instead of :8123

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@frosty path your logs show a lot of problems with custom integrations. You should start by disabling those just to filter them out

paper patio
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Yes I know but I wasn't sure about the information there. It says
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Unsupported
Healthy: Unhealthy

While in the HA Supervisor in the UI it says:
Healthy true
Supported true

crude inlet
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rename the custom_components directory, no_custom_components for example

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and then restart HA

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@paper patio reboot the system, then check logs again (yes, config/home-assistant.log file)

spice cape
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hey everyone. i just tried too install home assistant on a raspberry pi 4 i have it booting the os on a usb stick. it has worked on othe projects when i turn it on the green ACT led on the pi starts blinking once per second wich means that the usb stick is working properly. it didnt show up in my network scanner even thogh my ethernet cable green light was flashing the pi got hot so i thoght it was doing its own thing so i waited A DAY and it still has not showed up in my mobile network scanner and i cant connect homeassistant.local:8123 i tried to refflash the image but it still has the same issue. anyone got any idea on why this is happening. i really want too get this too work so i can control my new homemade blinds (:

maiden mesa
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What is a mobile network scanner?

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The pi is plugged in via ethernet?

spice cape
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it pings every ip in the network. and yes it is plugged in via ethernet directly too the router

maiden mesa
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why not use your router to see connected devices instead of the "scanner"

odd marlin
maiden mesa
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oh, I just noticed that. I am blind. 🙂 ty jumbers.

spice cape
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well the thing is i am 15 and its my dads router. i dont know if he would want me snooping in there and i read that a network scanner should work fine. but shouldnt it technically work? all of my other projects have worked

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with a usb stick

maiden mesa
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using a router to view the network is a lot more normal than pinging your entire network

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If your device doesn't support mDNS, you won't be able to use the magical homeassistant.local url. Are you on windows?

spice cape
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yes im on windows

maiden mesa
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okay, that isn't your issue then

spice cape
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because i am pretty sure green flashing light means usb i ok

crude inlet
humble mirage
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And USB sticks tend to have a shorter life than SD cards

crude inlet
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And yeah it will be a "works for now" kind of experience

spice cape
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and my ethernet cable flashesh from time too time. but if i look at my pc internet cable it flashesh alot more. my ethernet cable flashesh once in maybe 8 seconds

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but if i flash somthing else like raspberry pi os it works

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if i wanted too try wireless connection too see if that works better how would i do that

maiden mesa
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That is highly unsuggested as well. Do you not have an SD card for your pi?

spice cape
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thats the thing i only have one sd card and that is in my MagicMirror project

#

do you really think that is the problem? my usb stick is pretty fast

maiden mesa
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Alright, well the only other thing I can suggest is hooking a monitor up to the pi to see what is going on. You need to replace the USB drive or else it's sort a waste of everyone's time to try to continue to debug.

spice cape
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yea ok sorry. i will try too debug with the monitor soon

maiden mesa
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no problem at all, really. You are way more likely to get help from others when you're following the suggested or known paths and I don't want you to make it harder on yourself.

static current
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Hi, I'm about to submit a bug of eth0 on RPi 400 not having drivers or not loading on cli. I'm not 100% sure on which repo to submit the bug though. Is it an issue with Supervisor, cli or what?

humble mirage
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Operating System

worthy basin
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hi guys, i used to have home assistant on docker and now i decided to install the supervised version to be able to use repositories addons and all that cool stuff, the problem is that im getting pretty high cpu usage and the server is not reachable.
ha banner returns all the correct information and the supervisor works

humble mirage
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Hopefully you're using Home Assistant OS, and not HA Supervised?

worthy basin
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i am using supervised

humble mirage
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Go and re-build that with HAOS and restore your backup there

worthy basin
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ok but i also have other stuff on that machine, i currently have debian

humble mirage
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Other stuff... that means you ignored the requirements already

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This won't end well

static current
worthy basin
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do you think it is better to just stick with the docker image in this situation ?

maiden mesa
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container, yes

worthy basin
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alright, thank you guys

maiden mesa
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You're going backwards. Most people go HAOS/Supervised to Docker

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or other

worthy basin
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well i just wanted to try addons and repositories

humble mirage
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Running Supervised is like using a blow torch to inspect the inside of a petrol tanker

maiden mesa
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addons are just containers with more blindspots

humble mirage
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If by repositories you mean custom components (eg HACS) then you get those already

worthy basin
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so y'all recommend docker

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im pretty new to this, installed it 3 days ago

humble mirage
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If you want to run other software outside of add-ons it's the only supported way

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(I mean, there is ||Core|| but unless you're a linux admin just don't)

worthy basin
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im pretty good with linux

humble mirage
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Docker

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"Pretty good" is still a reason to run Docker

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Can make Linux dance to my tune ... still use Docker

worthy basin
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alright, thanks for the directions

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you've been very helpful

spice cape
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ok i connected a monitor and i took a picture but i dont seem to have permisions too upload pictures here. so when i boot up i get somthing saying " FAILED Failied too start network manager wait online but then it seems too fix itself by saying reached target network is online then it waits for somthing called kernel time syncronized. and that also seems too fix itself. then i get to a screen saying: "welcome too the home assistant command line. System information. ipv4 adresses for eth0: (blank) like its actually not anything there. "ipv4 adresses for wlan0: same here. home assistant URL "http://homeassistant.local:8123" i dont get why that is and also is there a way too send pictures in this channel. because i cant seem too do it on my phone atleast and thats where i have the pictures.

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if you want more context scroll up too my other post

spice cape
humble scaffoldBOT
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@spice cape Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

spice cape
humble mirage
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You did plug the network cable in?

spice cape
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Yes 🤣

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I'm pretty sure anyway

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Maybe the Ethernet cable is faulty

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But it is glowing green and orange

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I could try too change the cable sson

humble mirage
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Swap it with one you know works

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And swap the port it's connected to

spice cape
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Hmm yes I will try that but shouldn't the cable need too work in order for the initial setup too work?

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Maybe it shuts off the Ethernet after the setup or something

static current
static current
# spice cape https://i.imgur.com/cvRMPge.jpg

One method to narrow down this issue is to boot the Raspberry to Raspbian and see if the ethernet port works there. If it does then it could be the same issue I was having, as per my previous reply.

spice cape
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ok i w8ill try too flash rasbian

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When i unplugg and replug Ethernet while in home assistant command line i get absolutely no error message or anything saying that the Ethernet is disconnected nor when i plug it back in. Just too add. I will try flash raspbian

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Here is an error

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[failed]

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Seems too be important

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As usual it starts but I can't access the website and no ip is being displayed

static current
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Could you post the image to imgur

static current
# spice cape https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/qho2KCluzBeg

Just checked; that's the same issue I was having so it seems to be related. If you didn't try to boot into Raspbian yet do that as well so that you can narrow down is the issue with your Raspberry or Home Assistant. If your ethernet works in Raspbian it's a software issue and most likely the same that I'm having. If it does not work in Raspbian nor in Home Assistant then it's either a bad cable (change that first and then try again in Raspbian. If it still doesn't work try different port from router or switch) or a fault in RPi itself.

spice cape
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Yes the cable works no problem how did you fix yours? I have a pi 3. Could that work fine with home assistant

static current
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I'd also recommend having more than one SD card in hand for testing, makes it a bit faster to switch between two systems. You can use USB flashdrive too but don't rely on them. Not sure do they wear out faster. Overall, I'd recommend having at least two SD cards, one for Raspbian and one for Home Assistant, and one USB flashdrive if you have to do some testing with commands. That way you can always have at least one clean installation.

static current
spice cape
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Ok i think i have a adapter lying around that i could test otherwise I will test with pi 3

static current
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One method that you could try, though I've yet to test this and most likely won't as I have now a working connection via adapter, is to connect the RPi to Wi-Fi during initial setup and then check if the ethernet port could be re-enabled on HA. I've yet to go that far though, as I had no time to continue with setup.

spice cape
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How hard is it too do wireless setup

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What do i have too change

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do i have too reflash my os and then plugg in the adapter or could i just do it now and restart

static current
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So you have Home Assistant on the card now? I'd turn off RPi first then plug in the adapter and see if the connection works

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Just to be sure

spice cape
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Still get the failed too start network manager wait online rhing

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Thing

static current
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Ok then it could be that your adapter is not supported either..

spice cape
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Well something changed now when it is done booting i get a new system information ip but still no ip in it. It says ipv4 adresses for enp1s0u1u1: and then nothing here

static current
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Do note that you're on your own with that as I've not done it nor can help you with troubleshooting

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I was about to do that and start from step 2. as that was the part I found useful for my situation and it might've worked for me. But alas, I did not test it.

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If you had any setup on your old Home Assistant setup and can loose it; flash your card and then try the wi-fi but again, only if you're comfortable with it.

spice cape
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No it's all good this is my first time using home assistant

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I have nothing too lose

static current
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Do note that it is recommended to not use Wi-Fi in the long term and I don't know if you can force the eth0 to come online from completed installation.

#

The more information that can be provided the better as then there's more of a chance to get the issue fixed.

If you're willing to you can also try to use Docker and run Home Assistant from there but that's, again, something that I'm not familiar with it. You might be able to run Home Assistant through Docker from Raspbian though.. not sure.

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Best of luck with the setup and please do post back if you can get your installation setup completely. I'd tinker and see if I could get eth0 working later, as in if setup could be completed and eth0 enabled once the first setup is complete, but don't really have time for that now.

spice cape
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I GOT IT TOO WORK. I just switched my USB to a ad card i managed too find flashed the os on that and then plugged the Ethernet cable into a Ethernet extender. (The thing where 1 Ethernet cable splits too 10 ) because before i was just plugging it straight too the router and now it works great!

maiden mesa
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o.O it sort of sounds like you were trying to use a modem/router combo that was in bridge mode. It sounds like you're now actually using a device that is routing.

spice cape
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yea as i said im 15 i have no idea about any of that. i just saw a hole and shoved it in

maiden mesa
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okay, use protection

sterile palm
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Hi, i just followed the install steps for QNAP (Docker, ARM, homeassistant/armhf-homeassistant) from the getting started page.
after the container has finished creating and trying to start it, i always get an "exec /init: exec format error".
i dont know what that means and how to fix this. Any help would be appreciated 🙂

humble mirage
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It usually means you have the wrong image for the CPU in your computer

sterile palm
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@humble mirage i have a ARM Cortex-A57 wich is a ARMv8-A Processor and i used the homeassistant/armhf-homeassistant with should support arm cpus

humble mirage
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This ain't IRC, you don't have to @ me 😉

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Norrmally you just pull ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable and let the system handle it

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Did you try that?

sterile palm
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yea some other error ill come back when i replicated it

daring sentinel
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Hello! I went to check on myHome Assistant instance (Raspberry Pi 4, installed from the image) and found that it wasn't working today.

Plugging in the HDMI, I saw a black screen with a blinking underscore.

I restarted the Pi, watched it go through the boot sequence. It got to the screen with "Waiting for Home Assistant CLI to be ready" text, and then the text flickered a few times before returning to the same blank-screen-blinky-underscore as before.

Any ideas on how to get it back up and running?

humble mirage
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The most likely problems are power or failing SD card, and I'd start with power

daring sentinel
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Oh, fun! Okay, that sounds fixable.

humble mirage
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Do you have anything connected to the USB ports? Are you powering it with a Pi power supply, or something else?

daring sentinel
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The SD card should be fairly new, and I think I remember disabling some logs to keep it happier.

humble mirage
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New can still fail fast 😄

daring sentinel
humble mirage
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Yeah... that'll do it

daring sentinel
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I'm not sure I even have a dedicated 5V power supply.. but maybe I can find one if I go looking.

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I assume a high-wattage, PD-enabled USB-C charger isn't going to work well, either?

humble mirage
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I'm not sure the Pi4 supports PD

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If it does, then yes you'll be fine

humble scaffoldBOT
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@sterile palm I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
#

@sterile palm When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
#

Well... that looks like a really shit NAS for Docker

daring sentinel
humble mirage
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They won't supply over 1A without negotiation (from memory)

maiden mesa
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I did not actually meant to ping you, lmao

humble mirage
maiden mesa
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It was plain text and it got converted!

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I tried to hard to make it plain text just to get burned

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that sure is a pretty background

daring sentinel
# humble mirage

Heh, sorry. I'm the opposite -- I need the pings to keep track of anything. ADHD drops conversations on the floor without it. 😭

humble mirage
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Yeah, it'd be nice of the Discord devs could allow the recipient to choose...

daring sentinel
sterile palm
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what does shit nas mean ?
no way to debug this ?

humble mirage
daring sentinel
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But it's annoying that we have to sort that out for ourselves!

sterile palm
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i just tryed to increase my memory allocation up to 6gb but its no difference

daring sentinel
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Okay, proper power supply on order, trying out a different (dumber?) phone power supply to see if that makes a difference. I really hope it's not the SD card, that would be... annoying.

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... lol, I'm clueless... There's very clearly a yellow lightning bolt in the corner of the screen telling me I'm underpowering the Pi. xD

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Time to go power supply hunting...

humble mirage
crude inlet
daring sentinel
brisk aspen
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is there a way to run esphome without hassio? I am just running core in a container.

humble mirage
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Yes

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ESPHome existed before add-ons

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Just ... follow their docs

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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You can get help there ☝️

brisk aspen
#

cool, thanks

sterile palm
daring sentinel
#

Sigh. Well, the PoE hat works, but solving the power issues did not solve my problem. Time to check the SD card, I guess?

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... I should also try it with the dedicated Pi power adapter I picked up, just in case.

fiery forge
#

Anybody have issues upgrading to 2023.2? I started it over an hour ago and it’s still spinning

storm needle
#

hello. i'm having trouble getting ConBee II set up on a new Home Assistant install. i have tried Core and Docker install methods and both end up with the same error. logs only show:

2023-02-01 17:51:33.944 ERROR (MainThread) [aiohttp.server] Error handling request

the UI starts by saying "Loading next step for Zigbee Home Automation" and then after a moment says "Error"

i searched GitHub but didn't seem like i found anything to indicate a current know issue with ZHA or the ConBee. any ideas on what to try?

left agate
left agate
dreamy spindle
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Yeah I got it to work with UTM as well, but also have core working also.

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With core, I can use the built in Bluetooth

left agate
dreamy spindle
left agate
#

Wow. Soo long and it's setting up ha supervised. I ran HAOS directly on qemu

reef hemlock
#

Anyone have issues updating their docker containers? I'm not 100% sure which version I was on before, but the log says updating the database schema from 30 to 33, and now I get the onboarding screen (but my automations are trying to run and are throwing errors for unknown entities)

#

this has happened twice to me recently, the last time I took it as an opportunity to reconfigure everything, but not this time

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aannnd now it's throwing the error: RuntimeError: No Home Assistant provider found

manic bane
manic bane
#

Also how do you update your containers

reef hemlock
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I tried to go through the onboarding (to see if I could get into a halfway usable instance)

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anyways, I update by pulling the latest version through portainer, then recreated the container so it would use that newly pulled image

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I (thankfully) always rsync the files elsewhere first, so I was able to go back to the last image I had pulled on 2023-01-12 (I'm guessing 2023.1.2), and everything is fine with that

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Alright, not sure what I did differently, but repeating what I believe is the same steps got me to 2023.2.0

manic bane
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It could well have been portainer stuffing it up

reef hemlock
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Possibly, I've had other odd issues happen with portainer before

river pelican
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I am running HA OS in a VM on ESXI. I've mounted my NFS share for storage and passed through to VM but HAOS is not recognizing the extra storage space.

I found some stuff online suggesting it's not actually possible to do this - is that true? If so, is it possible to mount an NFS share directly in HAOS?

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Basically I'm trying to give Frigate plenty of storage to record onto without killing my little local 32gb HAOS drive.

#

(also not sure if this is the most appropriate channel, apologizes if not)

manic bane
river pelican
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Ah, crap.

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I actually just got the HAOS up and running because the docker container I was using didn't support add-ons 😄

#

I guess I can just expand the HAOS drive space

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What is the most expansive installation method that supports the most things? Container?

low notch
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container is the best in terms of flexibility and compatibility

river pelican
#

Gotcha, I appreciate that info. I may try and spin up another VM and go that route just to see. Thanks 🙂

river pelican
#

Well poop, I can't expand the disk size either since it was imported from HA directly and not created by ESXI. Well I sure did waste a bunch of time doing this haha!

#

Would I be able to just direct attach a USB drive? Or does HAOS not recognize any other drive but itself?

#

How do people with HAOS run frigate and store recordings? Or something similar

humble mirage
#

It doesn't really support local drives either

#

It's (largely) a one drive thing

river pelican
#

Hmm. So people who run HAOS either don't use the provided VMDK or they just don't use HAOS to do frigate, etc.

#

Is it possible to somehow edit the VMDK?

humble mirage
#

No

#

HAOS is an "appliance like" experience

#

If you want control you don't use it

river pelican
#

But docker doesn't support add-ons, right?

#

So it's either-or?

humble mirage
#

Add-ons aren't magic

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Add-ons are just software in Docker with sprinkles for the Supervisor

#

If an add-on exists then there's a 99.99999999999999999999% probability that the same software exists as a Docker image

river pelican
#

Fair. I'm just curious how people run frigate as an add-on within HAOS. I suppose it's just a proof of concept-type thing then and not actually production enviro?

humble mirage
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The Frigate devs discourage it ... so that should tell you something

river pelican
#

Ahh, fair.

humble mirage
river pelican
#

Oh, interesting. Well then I guess I could spin up frigate in docker on a separate VM and add that in with the proxy addon, however if I'm doing that I might as well just spin up HA in docker as well if it gives more control/compatibility

#

So, I have HA already running in a docker container but on unRaid. Would this limit my options as well, should I run it in a VM on ESXI to get a more "real" docker experience?

humble mirage
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I don't know enough about unRAID, but if you're not limited to some crappy UI then you should be fine

river pelican
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Yeah, I can access terminal and such for each container with unraid

#

Hmm, might go back that route. Thank you 🙂

#

I appreciate all the info

humble mirage
#

IMO if you can create and manage containers with Docker Compose you'll have a better time than if it locks you into something like Portainer

paper patio
river pelican
humble mirage
#

Portainer ... has issues

#

Some deployment approaches are overwriting the PATH environment value to an old value. If you see errors like ./run: line 7: exec: nginx: not found, then you need to stop overriding your PATH. This happens with both Proxmox LXC and Portainer (#3223 the database will need to be deleted to roll-back successfully.
from https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/releases

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Similar fuckery has caused issues for other images, including HA

river pelican
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oof, that's rough

humble mirage
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As long as you know it may shoot you in the foot though at least you're prepared

river pelican
#

True... fair point.

#

Perhaps I'll try and do this all with docker compose on a fresh VM instead of trying to workaround unraid.

#

I do love HA's backups. It was super easy to migrate from one install to another.

humble mirage
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Same goes for any backup though shrug

river pelican
#

If I am going the way of docker, I want supervised - yes?

#

It appears to have the most functionality

fair spindle
#

Container is preferred; Supervised is not really worth the bother unless you absolutely need it

low notch
fair spindle
#

you won't have addons, but you can use other containers alongside HA with docker-compose anyway

humble mirage
#

Supervised is what you use if you hate your future self

river pelican
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Hahahaha, fair enough. Thank you

#

The end-goal is frigate, mosquitto, and zigbee2mqtt but can run those alongside with docker compose I'm sure

low notch
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it was once a swiss army knife but long ago that turned into a trap

humble mirage
#

It's still a swiss army knife, but it's rusty, and some blades will self-deploy when in your pocket

river pelican
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I appreciate the advice

#

So I'm pretty new to docker, still learning - I'm seeing that for linux, there's docker engine or docker desktop which runs containers in a VM but is more standard across platforms. I am guessing I should probably go with the docker desktop version, correct?

#

Sorry, I realize that's not a question directly related to HA but it's sort of indirect considering my end-goal.

humble mirage
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You don't want desktop, no

#

Docker Desktop is for, well, desktops, not servers

#

Install Debian, install Docker + Compose

river pelican
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Ahh, thank you! Much appreciated.

boreal gyro
#

I just have a look into docker-compose.yaml at the main page and why there is set an option privileged: true ?? There is described how to add an USB devices with devices option so don't get it for what is that privileged? Looks really badly for every one with a container experience. It's seriously security issue

humble mirage
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The point is that it makes it easier for those that aren't great with Linux

#

I've lost track of how many people use Docker but can't find their device path

#

Clearly if you feel it's a risk then ... don't use it

eager iris
#

Hi,
I use the Linux-Docker variant with external mariadb. DB-size is approx 40gb. Log shows "Database is about to upgrade from schema version: 30 to: 33". This is already running for some time. How long might this take?

humble mirage
#

What version of MariaDB?

eager iris
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It is later than recommended in the release blog post.
Server version: 10.6.11-MariaDB-0ubuntu0.22.04.1 - Ubuntu 22.04

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I believe the blog says 10.6.9

frigid cloak
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Hopefully this is a good place to dump this, i have an issue, i have an ubuntu server running vritualbox and a HA OS VM in it. If i shutdown the VM and try to start it up again, i get a VBoxManage: error: The virtual machine 'home_assistant' has terminated unexpectedly during startup because of signal 6 VBoxManage: error: Details: code NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005), component MachineWrap, interface IMachine I then reboot the host and everything is fine.... anyone seen anything like this?

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The google search for this bring up a lot of things which don't really makes sense for this particular case

obtuse talon
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can i get a password change . i forgot

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my old password

crude inlet
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@obtuse talon if you're running HA OS you can get the console by connecting with keyboard and monitor

obtuse talon
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but i am locked in

dry fern
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I heard something about thread/matter is not supported in a docker install only with vm or baremetal, anyone know? I was planning to go to docker only install

low notch
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yes, the matter addon is currently made only for haos afaik

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you can try building it yourself? 🤷‍♂️

dry fern
low notch
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just... wait?

dry fern
low notch
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what devices have you that you need it immediately?

dry fern
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not immediately, just wanna be ready, got the skyconnect

low notch
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you gain pretty much nothing by doing that now

dry fern
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yeah dno if it's worth to do all docker install then if it's not supported in the future

low notch
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who said it won't be supported in future?

dry fern
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dno about the future, did see the home assistant live release and they said only supported in haos

low notch
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currently, yes.

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as I said

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but you gain nothing from it currently anyway, so 🤷‍♂️

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its FOMO but there is nothing to miss out of yet

dry fern
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yeah ain't gonna setup at the moment then, just don't wanna do all docker-compose and then switch to proxmox when/if it's needed 🙂

humble mirage
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Nobody needs Proxmox 😛

dry fern
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what's wrong with Proxmox 😛

low notch
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it's... austrian

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nah, we are proud container install users and we need our daily fix to tell you

dry fern
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xD haha
Proxmox is what I used in the past I used LXC before docker

humble mirage
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It's fine, if you need VMs

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Since properly embracing Docker I've not needed VMs

dry fern
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All HA + other stuff purely on docker?

humble mirage
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Mostly

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Some stuff is bare metal because I have "some" background there

low notch
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docker, if not possible or not needed - bare metal. windows does not dockerize so thats the last thing I use vms for pretty much

dry fern
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docker without a VM would be best, thinking about running light desktop + HA on a n6005

low notch
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desktop
why?

dry fern
low notch
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bad thinking but you'll learn 😄

dry fern
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hahaha should be enough juice for that? 😛

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also seen at a 5105 for router i HA

low notch
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people here seem to be the most peaceful with running ha on a dedicated machine

odd marlin
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Router on its own hardware, HA on its own hardware, that's the life for me. Everything else goes on other machines, mostly in VMs

hearty tide
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Hi, I have been running HASSOS 9.3 in a QEMU VM on Unraid for a few months now. A few days ago, I was unable to access homeassistant. Looking at the VM, it was stuck in the EFI shell. FS0: (where BOOT and cmdline.txt should be) was completely empty, so today I copied those two from the original qcow2 boot partition to my VM (mounted the original disk as well and simply cp'd from FS1 to FS0). It now boots, but I am presented with the initial setup screen. Running backups using the cli tool also shows there are no backups :/. I have a backup of the qcow from before I tried to fix the boot partition

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I'm not sure what to do

ashen charm
dry fern
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Thanks for all inputs, gonna think about it and maybe do all docker 😛

eager iris
eager iris
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wooha - hd full

ashen charm
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free up disk space and as long as you don't have any actual corruption, restart HA, and it should try again.

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Make sure you always have at least 1.25x the size of the database in free space available for temp tables and schema changes

eager iris
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yes, freed 18 gb and restarted. but 1.25x is hard as the ssd is only 128gb. any way to shrink the db beforehand? use older docker container and then reduce "purge_keep_days" ?

ashen charm
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you can call the recorder.purge service manually to delete old data

eager iris
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tried that right now - no result so far. maybe it is not possible during a running migration

strong lagoon
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I want to use my raspberry pi 4 4gb as homeassistant host and want to connect it to my tv so i can see my dashboard. Can i use the normal homeassistant imager or use pi OS and install it on that

brazen herald
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HAOS does not output a visual interface. Just a command line.

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You could install Debian and run Home Assistant in a docker container. But you may also be better off using some thing like the Cast #integrations-archived to display your dashboard on the TV

strong lagoon
brazen herald
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Docker containers aren't hard. If you're new to this I'd install HAOS and look at getting something you can connect to the TV to see a dashboard on. Maybe a Pi Zero W, maybe a Chromecast 🙂

brittle sail
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What’s a good way to display a hass dashboard on a chrome cast btw?

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Does it need to be manually casted by a pc or something?

strong lagoon
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Owh okay, but the thing is i want it on one pi. Not multiple

brazen herald
brittle sail
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I need to play with that

crude inlet
brittle sail
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Just use the cast integration?

brazen herald
brittle sail
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Thanks

daring sentinel
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The HA instance on my Pi4B is crashing and throwing "read only filesystem" errors with an SD card and 2 different SATA SSDs connected via USB3.0.

Is my Pi cursed? Did I just get really unlucky with storage media?

(more info in thread)

brittle sail
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Rip sd card

strong lagoon
crude inlet
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You'd still need some other device connected to the tv to cast a dashboard to it. A chromecast, etc

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and even then you can't interact with it

strong lagoon
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Owh, that too bad

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Then im gonna experiment and export it later to my nas if i upgrade my ram

boreal gyro
raw axle
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Hi! I've had to re-flash my SD card after I accidentally locked myself out of HA (turned off IPv4, don't ask), but I'm 20+ minutes into having plugged the freshly installed version back into my Raspberry Pi 4 and I'm still unable to access HA via homeassistant.local:8123 or the ip address directly. Was pointed in this direction for help!

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The specific error in the browser is "This site can’t be reached. homeassistant.local refused to connect."

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I've tried multiple browsers, and multiple devices.

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I've also tried flashing the SD card a second time.

odd marlin
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Without a monitor hooked up, it's hard to know what the problem is

raw axle
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Yeah I'm getting that feeling too. Will have to go buy a micro hdmi or w/e tomorrow morning. Any other tips I can try before then?

low notch
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Serial tty should also work

brittle sail
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isnt there another port you can reach to see if it's having issues

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like 4000 something

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4357

crude inlet
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At this point :4357 is mainly telling you if the supervisor is running or not, which can be helpful

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Like, "oh my problem is that bad" helpful

crude inlet
versed bronze
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After updating to Core 2023.2.0 some Aqara humidity sensors do not work with the statistic diagram card. After restoring Core 2023.1.7 everything works fine again.
Any ideas?
Thanks a lot!

gentle depot
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Oh looks like 2023.2.1 is already released just now.

odd marlin
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Weird, I'm on 2023.2.0 and humidity, voltage, etc all load fine

hexed vessel
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I upgraded to 2023.2 together with mariadb and all my history is gone, no energy nothing shows up in logbook and history

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Is it still running a migration or something?

humble mirage
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You'll have seen a persistent notification when the migration started, if you left it it'll have cleared when the migration finished

hexed vessel
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I don’t see anything on the current log

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Mariadb log also does not show any problems but still history does not load from anywhere

naive cargo
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is there another version of HAOS with different network drivers, my nic is not supported

frozen plinth
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(If you did it at literally the same time I guess Ha could have got confused if Maria restarted while it was trying to migrate)

frozen plinth
hexed vessel
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I upgraded to 2023.2 it gave me a message about a performance bug in mariadb and that I should upgrade it, I did, and not all the history is gone

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if I look into the statics_run table, I only have entries after the upgrade time

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how can i restore my backup? 🙂

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ah i found the option, fingers crossed

manic bane
naive cargo
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Never mind, started working after bios update

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so just finished installing on baremetal and pc has internal video card INTEL and I added an Nvidia dual port video card but not getting video output from that card, only the internal nic.. how can I find out if I can utilize the card for Hw acceleration for transcoding

hexed vessel
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oof, i restored backup, upgraded again, now none of the addons work, they don't register as running

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||[2023-02-03T09:06:31.850Z] info Wrote default config file to ~/.config/code-server/config.yaml
[2023-02-03T09:06:32.976Z] info code-server 4.9.1 f7989a4dfcf21085e52157a01924d79d708bcc05
[2023-02-03T09:06:32.979Z] info Using user-data-dir /data/vscode
[2023-02-03T09:06:33.270Z] info Using config file ~/.config/code-server/config.yaml
[2023-02-03T09:06:33.270Z] info HTTP server listening on http://0.0.0.0:1337/ [2023-02-03T09:06:33.270Z] info - Authentication is disabled [2023-02-03T09:06:33.271Z] info - Not serving HTTPS||

manic bane
manic bane
hexed vessel
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@manic bane on it

hexed vessel
upbeat dirge
humble scaffoldBOT
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@dreamy turtle I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
placid sage
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Hey 🙂 i am not able to install universal-silabs-flasher on my HA on Raspberry Pi, for flashing my skyconnect stick

grim ferry
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hey everyone, hass fails detect the modbus converter as audio, can I change the group to dialout?

ls /dev/ttyUSB0 -la
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 188, 0 Feb 3 14:28 /dev/ttyUSB0

naive cargo
hollow obsidian
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Hi

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one of this hardware would be OK for HAss ?

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TINY Lenovo M53 Tiny: Celeron J1800 2.41GHz 4G 16GB SSD NO-Optical

TINY Lenovo M600 Tiny: Celeron N3000 1.04GHz 4G 16GB SSD NO-Optical

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with 256 Gb SSD

humble mirage
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The first is about 2/3 the performance of a Pi4

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The second is no better

odd marlin
hollow obsidian
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thanks !

humble mirage
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If in doubt, search for the CPUMark rating - the Pi4 scores around 900

hollow obsidian
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yes, that's because I have one unit of each in a closet ...

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was an option to give them a usage

odd marlin
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If you already have them sitting around, there's no harm in giving them a try. Worst that'll happen is it'll run slowly. It sounded like you were asking for advice on buying something

dreamy turtle
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i'm not getting HOAS booting on an Futro-S920. Deleting my attempt and trying Proxmox => is booting. What can i try else? (sudo efibootmgr -c... allready done)

fallen lichen
warm plover
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Hello,
I have an issue with moving the data disk to an usb SATA SSD.
I tried both the UI and the CLI way of moving data disk to /dev/sda.
The data disk remains on the eMMC storage however

https://snipboard.io/P1wFl5.jpg

Any idea how to solve this issue?

dreamy turtle
strong lagoon
humble mirage
copper steppe
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@dreamy turtle if you have proxmox running, why not run haos in a vm?

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Run this command, in a shell on your proxmox, "one click" HAOS install
bash -c "$(wget -qLO - https://github.com/tteck/Proxmox/raw/main/vm/haos-vm-v5.sh)"

dreamy turtle
copper steppe
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Yeah bro. Get a bigger one 🙂 pretty cheap

lofty shale
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Why is it that when I get an update via docker, when HA restarts, it fails to start up logging and a whole heap of stuff, but if I do a restart via the UI, it all restarts successfully

grand pivot
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How did you install HA?

lofty shale
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just in a docker-compose.yaml

grand pivot
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What does it mean for logging not to start up?

lofty shale
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ie the problem seems to trigger when my cron does a: docker compose pull && docker compose up -d

grand pivot
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Upgrading indiscriminately like that is a bad idea

lofty shale
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you know the history logger stuff? I believe it stores it all in a mariadb database - but I have a depends_on in the hass service on a healthy mariadb - so the DB should be always up.

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at least as far as HA is concerned

grand pivot
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I have no such problem

lofty shale
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strange - it happens to me every time an auto-update happens....

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as I said though, restarting HA via the UI causes everything to launch properly

odd marlin
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Automatically updating isn't a good idea

lofty shale
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well, never updating is also a bad idea.....

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and random updates that happen are also a bad idea.

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so, I dunno - we get updates to the docker image for a reason - or they're just being done randomly, and that'd be a bad idea....

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so which bad idea is the best?

odd marlin
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Almost every monthly release comes with breaking changes which will eventually bite you if you're doing automatic updates

lofty shale
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that's fine - every normal docker image update causes problems anyway

pulsar monolith