installation-archived

[unique edge]

Off topic but I may try to do all my automations inside HA this time to avoid being dependant on NR, seems like its improved drastically

[ruby owl]

Hi just tried starting fresh on my HA Blue. Did the re flash with Balena Etcher and not getting the ui at all. Now all I can see when on a screen is the HA CLI an clues what I could try

[unique edge]

what does the CLI says?

[crude inlet]

@unique edge the image is not included in the backup

It is downloaded and your data and configuration for the add-on is restored

@ruby owl try su logs

[unique edge]

@crude inlet does that mean friendly names in the way I had them before was never backed up?

[ruby owl]

Its just HA >

With Home Assistant in big letters above, the ip address etc

The thing is visiting 192.168.1.200:8123 doesn't work . Although when I check for open ports on the ip using the FING app I see 8123 and nothing else listed

[ruby owl]

will look now

[crude inlet]

@unique edge I don't know what the addon does in regard to names. Do you enter names there anywhere?

[unique edge]

Idk dont worry im just restarting anyway

[ruby owl]

Everything is green.

The last bit was about renewing the Home Assistant API key

[crude inlet]

And core logs?

[ruby owl]

2 Oranges

WARNING (Recorder) [homesassistant.components.recorder.util] the system could not validate that the sqlite3 database at //config/home/home-assistant_v2.db was shutdown cleanly

WARNING (Recorder) [homesassistant.components.recorder.util] Ended unfinished session (id=1 from 2022-10-26 12:42:07.740217

[crude inlet]

@ruby owl that's showing it wasn't shut down or restarted nicely but would be ok

so http://192.168.1.200:8123 still shows nothing?

you aren't using https:// right?

[quasi light]

Hi. Just had a very odd experience with HA OS. Zigbee2mqtt had stopped by itself, and after restarting it and HAOS, HAOS v9.3 was announced as new version. But I have already applied that, days ago?! What is going on...

[formal bone]

Hello! Does anyone have explanation/solution:

Im tryin to start my raspberry pi 3 with SSD, and it does start. SSD is flashed with 9.2 HA, but it keep saying *** Error serverip not set

[crude inlet]

@quasi light days ago? This was an hour ago https://github.com/home-assistant/version/pull/263

maybe 9.2?

[quasi light]

Strange... I must have mixed it up then, sorry. Github said 6 days agi since release...

[ruby owl]

Thank you @crude inlet it seems to be working now. Perhaps I was not patient enough but don't recall it taking this long previously

[copper steppe]

Hmmm, rebooting my VM seemed to loose all my data. Oh crap. Anyway, attempting to restore from full backup, after uploading the file, then clicking restore, how do I tell if it's working? Doesn't seem to be doing anything, and it's just sitting there on the user-registration screen

[humble mirage]

The restore is silent, AFAIK the only sign it finished is things will restart

[copper steppe]

That's a bit dumb/annoying, eh?

[humble mirage]

It's possibly not too late to open a WTH about it, if there isn't one already

[copper steppe]

Hmm, still doesn't seem to be doing anything? 20 minutes now

Even tried new download of haos vdi (9.3)

[delicate coyote]

So, I'm trying to configure my container storage volumes and I've noticed that there is a directory called /config/.storage which seems to contain basically all my application configuration.

Can I configure what location this is stored at (like I can other databases etc?) ?

[crude inlet]

that stays in /config

[delicate coyote]

i want to drive all my config, like databse config and ip ranges and stuff like that with kubernetes config maps, but having the storage directory among all the config files makes it very fiddly

[copper steppe]

I can't get the restore to work at all. WTF?? 😦

Just hangs, or does nothing.

I can see the backups I've uploaded/attempted in the "ha backups list"

And running "ha backups restore xxx" says completed. But... nothing changes??

[crude inlet]

what are you restoring?

is it a backup of HA? that will only change the version

Is it a full backup?

[copper steppe]

it's a full backup from system that was working a couple of days ago. if I do a partial backup, I can see all the right bits (my addons etc)

[copper steppe]

😦 Even if I restore, it's still in onboarding. If I enter a new username/password, then I can see the backup in the backups screen! But it did not restore

[wanton heath]

Hi 🙂 I have a home assistant installation on a raspbi 4 and I just tried to update it to the new 9.3 OS. Sadly I did not notice that my local DNS server (pi hole) did not work (crashed). Somehow HA did upgrade to the new version, but python could not update it's packages and now I seem to have some kind of broken state. Has anyone a hint for me how to fix this? Is there an option to "reinstall" the latest update?
It still boots up and shows me the interface but has loads and loads of python errors (missing/broken packages).

[wanton heath]

Seems I could fix it by using the bash command ha os update --version 9.2 to downgrade the OS to the old version. As the DNS was back up it did work for python to pull all the deps when then upgrading to version 9.3 again afterwards. I did not know about this command before 🙂

[royal echo]

Hi! I want to install the latest version of home assistant on a intel NUC. But can't seem to find the download for the NUC image on the Home Assistant web site? What am i missing ? Never mind ! RTFM 😜

[slow gyro]

I want to install it on my rpi4 but I don’t want homeassistant os as it make my pi unusable for other stuff. Is there any other way I can get all the features in homeassistant os while still being able to use Rpi?

[low notch]

no

except you learn a fair bit of linux and docker

[humble mirage]

It's a binary decision tree - either you use HAOS and get add-ons etc, or you don't use HAOS, and don't get them

[slow gyro]

If I run Debian on Rpi

[humble mirage]

Doesn't matter

[slow gyro]

Will supervised work?

[humble mirage]

"work"

[slow gyro]

Why not?

[humble mirage]

Well, you've already said that you'd be ignoring the requirements

[low notch]

every second you spend making this "work" will be better invested in learning docker

[humble mirage]

And ignoring the requirements results in it being unhealthy and unsupported ... and broken

it make my pi unusable for other stuff

So does Supervised

[slow gyro]

Why would learning docker help ?

[low notch]

because thats all you ask for, managing docker containers

supervised / haos does that for you

[humble mirage]

There's no magic with add-ons, they're just special Docker images

Everything you can do with HAOS you can do yourself

[slow gyro]

So to get supervisor features on Rpi

I should run docker images

For each add on

[humble mirage]

No

Instead of the Node Red add-on, you run the Node Red Docker image

Instead of the Mosquitto add-on, you run the Mosquitto Docker image

🔁

[slow gyro]

Ok

Supervisor will work on Rpi but I have to run them as separate docker images?

[humble mirage]

If you want the Supervisor you use HAOS

[slow gyro]

What if I ran a vm on Rpi?

[humble mirage]

Then you run HAOS in the VM on the Pi

[low notch]

stop

[humble mirage]

Eh, I'm amused at seeing how big a hole they can dig themselves

We all know how over-powered a Pi is

There's going to be no issues running a VM on one

[low notch]

sd cards love hypervisors

[humble mirage]

It probably won't die horribly sooner than a fortnight

[fallen urchin]

Is it possible with an !include to include dir merge named more then one directory? Like so (I know this doesn’t work but something like this is what I seek)
variable:
- !include_dir_merge_named dir1
- ! include_dir_merge_named dir2

Or like:

variable: ! include_dir_merge_named “dir1” + !include_dir_merge_named dir2

[half wave]

Hi everyone! I'm having a little problem with my HA instance in proxmox. After a power outage I can't reach the GUI anymore: "502 bad gateway". I can ping without any problem

I usually access it via tailscale and reverse proxy

[humble mirage]

Can you connect directly to it?

[half wave]

it says "the connection was reset"

if I try to connect via local ip I mean

but I can access the CLI via vnc

[humble mirage]

What's in the core logs?

[half wave]

a shitton of errors

"setup failed" for basically everything

[humble mirage]

Start at the top, find the first one

[half wave]

sorry, tryin to upload the screenshot

can't upload the screenshot

[humble scaffold]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[half wave]

https://imgur.com/a/l9Cdltp

[humble mirage]

Really need the earlier entries

[half wave]

those are the first entries I have when I input core logs? Is there something I'm doing wrong? Sorry, never used HA before

[humble mirage]

Check the log file on disk home-assistant.log in the config folder

[half wave]

https://imgur.com/a/MGL1Zwz

[humble mirage]

Ok, start with the first error, fix it, move on

It's an image of text, which is horrible, but it looks like it's complaining about a nonsense IP address for the proxy

[pure mauve]

Hi. On https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#platform-installation, it mentions this line:
-v /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config \
What is an example of where I should be pointing 'PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG'? I could set this up anywhere I guess, but I'd rather go with some standard location if there is one.

[humble mirage]

There is no standard location, but many of us suggest you:

1. Use Docker compose instead
2. Put everything under one common root to make backups easier

For instance, I have

/docker - includes my compose file
/docker/homeassistant - HA config
/docker/zigbee2mqtt - Z2M config

[pure mauve]

Makes sense, thank you.
One last question then - I am migrating from Snap to Docker. Is the /config folder mentioned here meant to map to this folder, or the /config within it (which has zha_quirks for me and nothing else).
https://imgur.com/a/D4UdggY

Basically my plan is to copy these files into the container and wondering which folder /config points to from my existing setup.

[humble mirage]

Interesting ... that config folder is inside /config, so /config/config

[pure mauve]

Ok thank you, this makes sense then. The inner config dir is there for a zha_quirk script I added manually, so I may have created it myself at one point, I don't recall.
But this should work for me now then, thnaks!

[woven terrace]

so in the installation guide for docker it says "libseccomp 2.4.2 or newer" is required, but 2.3.1-4.el7 is the latest version for CentOS 7.
Could that be causing the container to not be reachable? or am I supposed to try and access the container from the machine its running on for some reason

[humble scaffold]

@woven terrace I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[humble mirage]

Short answer, yes it could

[woven terrace]

hmm, okay. Weird that there isn't any error message in the docker container

[humble mirage]

CentOS 7 is ... old, and not being updated any more by the look of things

[woven terrace]

I agree, that's part of a whole big project.

[humble mirage]

The HA log file should tell you about HA starting, and if it's running the UI should be available fairly quickly

[woven terrace]

might just wait until I have it on a proper server instead of on the laptop that runs all my websites and bots and stuff

[woven terrace]

okay, yep then definitely broken. Guess that's something to add to my ToDo

[mild glacier]

Hm, so I've started getting an error on my HAOS the last few days Run Bootstrap script to install extra packages uses an unknown service not quite sure what its about

[white bane]

hey !

Welcome to the Home Assisant command line.

Waiting for Supervisor to startup...
System information
Error returned from Supervisor: System is not ready with state: setup

[exotic herald]

Hi guys. I have an existing HA installation running in Docker on UnRAID. However, I want to move it to dedicated hardware running Home Assistant OS. I can’t seem to get the backup.create service running. Can I just put my Home Assistant AppData folder in a .tar archive and import that for my new installation?

[topaz plinth]

Hi, i have problem with filesystem, how i can force system to run fsck on boot/

[humble mirage]

You'd said:

i have problem with filesystem due to lack of space
What's the problem?

[topaz plinth]

https://ibb.co/CKDSm1Z

[humble mirage]

Did you press Enter?

[topaz plinth]

yes

Ok, so lets start from the begining, my 60gb drive was consumed by something, today i was checking and find out, that logs from /mnt/data/logs consume around 55gb

system was using 97% of disk before

I've deleted files, rebooted system and wanted to update to latest version

I can't get to supervisor tab, because of some error

https://ibb.co/3kJwfGY

I tried to login directly to hassos and run it with those console line tools with core update, os update and so on

and i couldn't becasue system health status was not ok

oh, now my observer url shows that system is healthy

so something changed

[warped kite]

Hi all! Please help! I'm trying to install HA on a virtual machine in Hyper-V, I downloaded the image from the link https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/download/9.3/haos_ova-9.3.vhdx.zip, slipped it to the created virtual machine . HA starts up and works, but there is no SUPERVISOR tab anywhere! although in the section about the program is Home Assistant 2022.10.5
Supervisor 2022.10.0
Operating System 9.3
Frontend 20221010.0 - latest. Help how to get SUPERVISOR!

[humble mirage]

The Supervisor tab moved a long time ago - maybe a year ago

The functions it held are now found in other parts of the UI

[warped kite]

i am neby

[topaz plinth]

Ok, but i didnt update for a year 🙂

nvm, im doing it now

[humble mirage]

The c key allows you to search

[humble mirage]

I wasn't replying to you...

[topaz plinth]

but still, there were file system errors in logs and suggestions to run fsck

[humble mirage]

Use the c key in the UI to search for whatever it is you're after

Oh, and stop following old, outdated, YouTube videos

[warped kite]

Thanks!

[languid mist]

Currently running OS 9.2, and getting a notification to upgrade to 9.3. Pressed install and get an error saying another install is in process, but it's been running for over 24 hr's. I've already rebooted a few times. Is this a known issue? Would appreciate any thoughts on how to clear it, or if that might damage things

[fleet lynx]

Hi All. I can do "ha backups" and get a complete list - however, cant scroll in that list, so i'm not able to see all the backups?

[fleet lynx]

HA is insanely unstable tbh...

[humble mirage]

Then there's something broken with your install/hardware

HA itself is rarely unstable, if it was we'd see a lot of posts and issues about it

[fleet lynx]

I updated it. Now it wont run again. I'm inside HA CLI, but it's not in the network.

I mean, looking at the forums - there's a lot of issue also that isn't really due to plugins and modification. I found numerous while searching for this issue.

[humble mirage]

HAOS.... HAOS is another kettle of fish, and I agree that I see a disturbingly high number of reliability/stability issues around it

A lot of problems just getting the install to actually install

[fleet lynx]

Sorry, i was probably to generall, im using HAOS. However, i had the other version before - but i had a lot of issue on that as well. I couldnt do updates even becuase it was flagged as "running unstable" due to me not using a specific mode. That's why i went with HAOS.

[humble mirage]

If by other version you mean Supervised, that's a clusterfuck that's expected to be broken

Container has no concept of unstable/unsupported

[fleet lynx]

So... how the heck am i supposed to run it? To be honest, to me this seems to be s**t in terms of all issues i've had.

Alright, so that's how i should run it?

[humble mirage]

The only two good choices, for some value of good, are:

1. HAOS if you want add-ons and stuff
2. Container if you want full control/love Docker already

[fleet lynx]

It's just, getting kinda tired of setting upp the enviroment over and over.

[humble mirage]

Nobody should touch Supervised, and Core is for weirdos like me that love their bare metal installs

[fleet lynx]

I am running HAOS tho?

[humble mirage]

I'd expect so, if you have add-ons

[humble scaffold]

Not sure which install you're using? Check the Home Assistant info page

[fleet lynx]

Can't access it 😉

[humble mirage]

You mentioned HA CLI which points to HAOS or Supervised

Container doesn't have that

[fleet lynx]

Alright! I'm inside the CLI and it says it's OS, but also something about Supervised i believe. Currently doing a core rebuild. Hopefully that'll solve it. Seems like it doesen't get any internet connection. But the PC has it - and i tried to use chrome - all worked fine.

[humble mirage]

HAOS has the supervisor, and all the things Supervised does, but without the pain that having to manage your own OS very precisely brings

A lot of the time the lack of an internet connection is a DNS issue

Something like

ha dns options --servers dns://1.1.1.1
ha dns restart
``` can help if that's the case

[fleet lynx]

Alright, i'll give that a try also. Thank you

[floral wind]

Hi, I have som problems getting my bluetooth working. HA up and running on an lenovo Z50 laptop, Ubuntu installation., Virtualbox, Bluetooth working in ubuntu. But cant get it to work in HA. Using internal bluetooth. Any solutions?

[simple saffron]

Anyone else running into similar issues:

$ ha os update --log-level Debug                                                          ...
⣾ Processing... DEBU[0190] Response                                      body="{\"result\": \"error\", \"message\": \"Can't fetch OTA update from https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/download/9.3/haos_rpi3-64-9.3.raucb: Connection timeout to host https://objects.githubusercontent.com/github-production-release-asset-2e65be/115992009/25b0c67e-3839-4321-ba08-49a080f3d7da?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAIWNJYAX4CSVEH53A/20221028/us-east-1/s3/aws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20221028T153442Z&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=bc833080378652f50ce4af2ffd0a92d6369a3130c2fd320a983b5a5468861d7f&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&actor_id=0&key_id=0&repo_id=115992009&response-content-disposition=attachment%3B%20filename%3Dhaos_rpi3-64-9.3.raucb&response-content-type=application/octet-stream\"}" fields.time=3m10.402486498s headers="map[Content-Length:[731] Content-Type:[application/json; charset=utf-8] Date:[Fri, 28 Oct 2022 15:37:43 GMT] Server:[Python/3.10 aiohttp/3.8.3]]" received-at="2022-10-28 08:37:43.474377532 -0700 PDT m=+190.483382368" request="&{POST http://supervisor/os/update HTTP/1.1 1 1 map[Accept:[application/json] Authorization:[Bearer a86dec628069d6b229841d47bf4ec664b87cb22ba8b252d01387d21836f5235ffb845b9f3d6844b9261b5278328a47e21074e3bfd80fcd5b] User-Agent:[go-resty/2.7.0 (https://github.com/go-resty/resty)]] <nil> 0x2a4a30 0 [] false supervisor map[] map[] <nil> map[]   <nil> <nil> <nil> 0x40000c8040}" status="400 Bad Request" statuscode=400

Running curl -OL https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/download/9.3/haos_rpi3-64-9.3.raucb seems to show the download going super slow, so I'm guessing the request is timing out.

I'm only getting between 10 and 20 KBps. On my laptop (same network) I'm getting around 50Mbps so the download is super fast.

Although now that I'm testing something else, maybe it's the write speed rather than the download speed.

[proper latch]

I'm having issues with HA that I think are network related. I could not get HA to install, it kept freezing with error 500 when trying to get the updates from github. I was able to solve this with soem DNS work arounds

On a VM that was the end of it; from then on it worked (but was slow and used too much resources for this computer)

So, I tried to do this on RPi. I had teh same installation issues, the same work arounds allowed installtion. BUT, now I cannot install any add-ons because there is no host internet. I tried with docker on RPi and it was the same (I only have home edition windows so cannot see if docker on the computer would be any better)

Because I'm able to get installtion done with the workaround I'm not sure if this is an installation question or some other question. Ultimately, the installation work around was DNS changes, so if you have suggestions on what I could check or change on my router I'd be open to other suggestions.

I'll post my workaround in a threaded comment

[copper steppe]

Looks like that image isn't built... yet?

[grand pivot]

no, probably DNS

[copper steppe]

dns wouldn't be a 404

[grand pivot]

it can

that image exists and I was running it until I switched to the beta

or it's a general network issue

[copper steppe]

yeah, "docker pull ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.10.5" works for me

How can I switch haos to the beta channel? I've got a busted integration that's really annoying me.

[copper steppe]

Ah I must be blind 🙂

tx

waiting for my Chrome to come back. Accidentally viewing a diff of all the changes from b1 to 2022.10.5, it's killing my machine :/

is b1 "generally ok"?

[grand pivot]

working fine for me

review the changes, as always

[copper steppe]

yeah I had a look, tried to look at diff, was bigger than I expected :0

Installing 2022.11.0b1 now.
I don't have too many integrations, just my Hue, solar inverter, and starlink via hass

I'm hoping/assuming we'll start looking at py3.11 soon

For speed (maybe) if nothing else

[manic bane]

When that question came up in #beta it was packages used by integrations not yet supporting py3.11

[stark quail]

hiyaaa, trying to install supervised on rpi but hitting a roadblock. my logs look like this:

Oct 29 03:18:39 raspberrypi hassio_supervisor[5098]: 22-10-29 03:18:39 INFO (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-audio with tag 2022.07.0.
Oct 29 03:18:39 raspberrypi dockerd[5098]: time="2022-10-29T03:18:39.800098664+01:00" level=error msg="Handler for GET /v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-audio:2022.07.0/json returned error: readlink /var/lib/docker/overlay2: invalid argument"
Oct 29 03:18:39 raspberrypi hassio_supervisor[5098]: 22-10-29 03:18:39 ERROR (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-audio:2022.07.0: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-audio:2022.07.0/json: Internal Server Error ("readlink /var/lib/docker/overlay2: invalid argument")
Oct 29 03:18:39 raspberrypi hassio_supervisor[5098]: 22-10-29 03:18:39 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.audio] Error on installing Audio plugin, retrying in 30sec```

[brisk willow]

Don't install supervised

if you want the add-on store, install HA OS

[stark quail]

i'll install supervised if i'd like ty

i'm asking a question not wanting to be judged on what form of HA i use

[brisk willow]

lol i'm not judging you

[stark quail]

preesh

[brisk willow]

there's really not a reason to install HA Supervised over HA OS

[stark quail]

i'm installing it through a docker so i can manage other stuff on my rpi

so yes, there is

[brisk willow]

so... install HA Container instead

[stark quail]

again if you can't provide support on my question i'm good man

[uneven merlin]

"supervised" is the method that requires the most knowledge to install it

it really doesn't provide anything you can't do without it

[stark quail]

and i've gotten this far being able to handle myself for it

smh just let me have my damn supervised

[brisk willow]

you're already going to be running an unsupported installation if you install anything else on the pi that's not on the supervised requirements list

[uneven merlin]

a lot of extra overhead for almost no added value

[brisk willow]

i'm trying to save you some future pain

[stark quail]

i got peer pressured into supervisor and im simply trying to make it work on docker

is it that difficult to grasp

[uneven merlin]

so sunk cost fallacy, got it

[brisk willow]

for real, if you're going to be running other stuff on the host, HA Container is a good fit

[stark quail]

hahaha

ok ill just wipe this and go container

i declare defeat

😐

[uneven merlin]

shouldn't need any wiping

[stark quail]

it needs stopping no

its in an infinite retry loop

[uneven merlin]

i mean, you can but that's over kill

[stark quail]

im not trying to make it keep trying that's just giving the system false hope

[stark quail]

where add ons :(

not available in container?

[uneven merlin]

no addons needed. just get containers

docker-compose is your friend

linuxserver.io is a good resource

[stark quail]

dude i need my code editor and meross add ons

[brisk willow]

meross appears to be an integration, so that's unrelated

as far as code editor, there's probably a standalone container for that (and if not, there are numerous other options)

[fierce flame]

hi all, i've got a fresh install of HA on a RPI. I tried installing Adaware addon but since then, my HA has no internet access. I still can connect to it locally, I've uninstalled adaware and the problem persist. Any clues ?

[magic void]

I'm seeing random reboots and a version roll-back from 9.2 and now 9.3 back to 9.0. Can anyone help point me to where to troubleshoot?

I have a working installation, and have noticed some random reboots on the system. Upgraded to HAOS 9.2 hoping it would fix it. but the random reboots continue, and the OS rolled back to 9.0. I thought that had to be a mistake on my part, but I Caught it today. I upgraded to 9.3 earlier today. When I logged in via SSH it shows v9.3, so I generated a timestamp and left it. sure enough, it rebooted a short time after, and when it came back up, it shows version 9.0, with a timestamp ~20 minutes later than the 9.3.

https://i.imgur.com/TZxjxgy.png

I m seeing random reboots and a version

[boreal bough]

Hello all
Does anyone here use HA with KNX for home?

[humble scaffold]

KNX

Quality scale

:trophy: Platinum

IoT Class

Local Push

Documentation

View the documentation

Source

View the source on GitHub

Issues

View known issues

[low notch]

in use by almost 1300 installations.. someone here pretty sure does. what is the question though

[round raven]

Hello everyone !
Is there any docker image for Home Assistant ?
Is it any downside of implementing Home Assistant as container ?

[low notch]

yes there is

in 3 of the 4 available install methods you run HA as a container

what do you want to do?

[round raven]

i already have a Linux box 8GB ram running, and i thought is a good start to have it on docker

@low notch do you think there is downside if run on docker ?

[low notch]

not at all

[round raven]

thanks a lot

[manic bane]

I run it on docker and its great

[round raven]

thank you , i'm just wondering how to start because i need a NAS, media player, torrent downloader and thinking to go with Linux debian or Mint + docker or + VM's to separate those functions.

[brittle sail]

honestly you might prefer something like proxmox, truenas scale, esxi, unraid etc

i dont know if i've seen a guy use proxmox and hate it. truenas scale as a nas/vm/container solution with zfs is getting more popular, unraid is dead simple to use but has drawbacks, esxi is well.. the nuclear option

[low notch]

kvm + docker + virtmanager in container

no need for bloated hypervisors

[brittle sail]

what-year-is-it.jpg

that's some 2010 advice lol

[low notch]

it is still modern and the most lightweight you can get

[brittle sail]

yea some greybeards like life on hardmode

i respect it but it's not for most people

[low notch]

if you really insist this is 2010 then I tell you:
proxmox is just kvm

[brittle sail]

i've heard it described as debian with a gui

[low notch]

so you basically say that to yourself

[hasty flint]

Hi have problems to get duckdns working

dont know if it is realted to my router or orther things

[humble mirage]

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/remote-access-for-home-assistant/206072 should take you through all the steps

[hasty flint]

i will check this thx ... i will come back 🙂

i will use nabu instead in the future ... i dont know why but everything was working with lets entcrypt and duckdns

[opaque spire]

Trying to setup a friend's Home Assistant on Proxmox. We've used the script that downloads and builds the VM for you.

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/installing-home-assistant-os-using-proxmox-7/201835

However, everything boots fine and then suddenly his whole network just drops and starts dropping packets all over the shop. As soon as you stop the VM it's completely fine.

[low notch]

I cannot tag the guy responsible for this script because he uses a bold italic name 😡🤬

[grand pivot]

genius

[brittle sail]

ya but it looks super cool and unique

[hushed raptor]

Hey yall, so a new installer of Home Assistant, worked super cool and now me and my roomate can have shared access over home devices and custom dashboards.

Issue I am having is that our spectrum is spamming our phones with "new device has connected to your network" notifications. This concerns me, especially with a random black box computer connected to my network. Would anyone know why this is happening and how to fix if I can?

[low notch]

Random black boxes connected to your network are always up for surprises

[modern basalt]

Hey all - trying to install HA on generic X86 (old HP Optiplex) for a friend and it keeps stalling at random points during boot. First it was at "Activating VRAM", now it's at loading Intel WiFi driver. This PC doesn't have WiFi though. Any ideas?

[raw hedge]

Docker and Debian

K3s if you feel peckish and life is good and easy for installs

[wild needle]

Has anyone heard of some addons showing "add-on is not running" dialogues after migrating to a new system when in fact the addons are running?

E.g. ESPhome is throwing that error when I click it from the sidebar but I can open/close my garage door with the HA switch..

DoubleTake doing the same thing

Terminal too

[wild needle]

For those stuck with the same, the steps in the answer post here got me home

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/add-ons-not-working-properly-after-snapshot-restore/449796

[soft current]

The esp home add-on only pertains to managing your esphome devices and upgrading them. It is not involved in using them.

(The esphome device connects directly to home assistant without passing through the esphome addon container)

[wild needle]

Yeah makes sense given the behavior

All square now though

And with my flashy new bt dongle

[meager heron]

Hello guys I have an ee et1602 PC how can I install as OS the Home Assistant on it?

[low notch]

Given that this computer is basically a screen itself you want to give us more details on how you want to use it because the OS will not drive that display

At least nut GUI wise, you will only get a shell

[stuck charm]

After a backup/restore from my VM install to my Yellow I can't access my ha install. In the supervisor logs I get "Home Assistant has crashed" after it tries to start with yellow-homeassistant version 2022.10.5. It doesn't look like there are any errors in the core log. I've tried a rebuild on the supervisor and core, but still no luck

Not sure where I should be looking next to figure out what is crashing

[meager heron]

Just to make home assistant OS the screen will be always off I guess ... Just want to run the os (like in the raspberry, but I don't have raspberry ATM)

[low notch]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64/

[meager heron]

When I try to boot from pen it gets like this

Can't share IMG 🙃 black screen with a _ blinking

[humble scaffold]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[manic bane]

Does the computer support uefi bios?

[low notch]

have you set the correct boot device?

[meager heron]

Yes

[meager heron]

I can't find the option on bios

So I don't know if it supports or not

Any idea ?

[icy wind]

I am hoping somebody here can help me. I have installed HA in a docker container running on UBUNTU laptop. But I am having a problem with the network configuration. If I configure the HA's container network to be in HOST mode, then I am unable to access the HA GUI page on http://192.168.4.90:8123/
However, if I configure HA's container network in BRIDGE mode, then I can access the GUI. But then HA does not see any devices on my local network because the BRIDGE subnet is different than my local network subnet. I cannot figure out why port 8123 is not accessible from the device's IP 192.168.4.90! Am I missing something trivial here? I appreciate any help.

This is what I see in the container log in HOST network mode:
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: starting
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully started
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: starting
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: starting
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: starting
services-up: info: copying legacy longrun home-assistant (no readiness notification)
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services successfully started
2022-10-30 14:44:43.850 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.config_entries] Config entry 'Homebridge FF60 BE56' for homekit_controller integration not ready yet: Timeout while waiting for connection to device 172.17.0.4:51109; Retrying in background
2022-10-30 14:44:45.272 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.sonos.entity] Bedroom cannot reach 192.168.65.9:1400, falling back to polling, functionality may be limited, see https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sonos/#network-requirements for more details
2022-10-30 14:44:46.208 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.sonos.entity] TV Room cannot reach 192.168.65.9:1400, falling back to polling, functionality may be limited, see https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sonos/#network-requirements for more details
2022-10-30 14:44:46.314 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.sonos.entity] Kitchen cannot reach 192.168.65.9:1400, falling back to polling, functionality may be limited, see https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sonos/#network-requirements for more details

And ths is what I see using lsof command in terminal:
sam@sam-Ubuntu:~$ sudo lsof -i -P -n | grep LISTEN
systemd-r 589 systemd-resolve 14u IPv4 27326 0t0 TCP 127.0.0.53:53 (LISTEN)
cupsd 768 root 6u IPv6 26184 0t0 TCP [::1]:631 (LISTEN)
cupsd 768 root 7u IPv4 26185 0t0 TCP 127.0.0.1:631 (LISTEN)
dnsmasq 1155 libvirt-dnsmasq 6u IPv4 29410 0t0 TCP 192.168.122.1:53 (LISTEN)
com.docke 3896 sam 28u IPv4 44243 0t0 TCP *:46313 (LISTEN)
com.docke 3896 sam 123u IPv6 44633 0t0 TCP *:9443 (LISTEN)
com.docke 3896 sam 124u IPv6 44635 0t0 TCP *:8000 (LISTEN)
vpnkit-br 3918 sam 9u IPv4 44243 0t0 TCP *:46313 (LISTEN)

[rare fossil]

Hello. Is the docker method of installation supported?

[brisk willow]

HA Container? Yes

[rare fossil]

Ok. Do you know how I can get my google coral tpu recognized in the HA container?

[gilded pewter]

What is the easyest way to install HA on a debian VM (running on a raspberry4) that can use addons

[grand pivot]

there is no sane way to do all that

[brisk willow]

USB or PCIe?

[rare fossil]

usb

[gilded pewter]

@grand pivot talking to me?

[grand pivot]

yes

[gilded pewter]

why cant i use https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer

[rare fossil]

i can see the usb device id of it

[grand pivot]

running a VM on a Pi in which you're running Debian?

because it's insane

do not do it

[gilded pewter]

I have a PI4 with many debian VM's

[rare fossil]

VMs

[grand pivot]

it makes no sense to do all that in a VM - just run HA OS in the VM

[brittle sail]

Why do you hate yourself?

[icy wind]

or run HA in a docker container

[grand pivot]

ideally, don't run a VM on the Pi at all and just flash HA OS

[gilded pewter]

I need an addon

[grand pivot]

nobody needs an addon

[brittle sail]

I need them like a crackhead needs crack

[rare fossil]

RobC the frigate addon is necessary!

[brittle sail]

Does that count

[grand pivot]

anything you can do in an addon, you could install yourself in some other way

it shouldn't dictate the install method

[rare fossil]

USB

[grand pivot]

it most definitely should not push you to a Supervised install

[gilded pewter]

You guys have no imagiation

[grand pivot]

if you're able to install and maintain that according to the instructions, requirements, and restrictions, you're more than capable of installing and maintaining whatever you want the addon for

[brisk willow]

interestingly, the frigate docs suggest passing through the entire USB bus to the container for the USB coral, but i'm not sure if that's strictly necessary or not (i don't have a coral, so i don't know how it appears on the host)

[grand pivot]

you do you, of course

[brittle sail]

Nah man pi is just too slow to actually use as hardware for a hypervisor lol

[rare fossil]

if I run lsusb in the terminal, I can see the device ID in there.

[brisk willow]

run dmesg -w and then unplug and replug the coral in

[brisk willow]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[rare fossil]

Ok, did that. I can see that it sees the device

[brisk willow]

does it show a path for it?

[rare fossil]

no path, just USB 2-2

[rare fossil]

I installed the drivers on the host, too

[brisk willow]

https://tenor.com/view/pings-off-reply-pings-off-reply-ping-discord-reply-ping-gif-22087396

actually, before we go anywhere... how did you install HA?

settings > system > repairs > three dots in the upper right > system information > installation type

[rare fossil]

supervised

[brisk willow]

HA should already have access to everything on the host then

[rare fossil]

not sure how to get it to show up as a usb device, then.

[brisk willow]

also... i would suggest switching to HA OS if you want the add-on store or HA Container if you don't care about that and want to add other software yourself

just follow the docs: https://docs.frigate.video/configuration/index

detectors:
  # Required: name of the detector
  coral:
    # Required: type of the detector
    # Valid values are 'edgetpu' (requires device property below) and 'cpu'.
    type: edgetpu
    # Optional: device name as defined here: https://coral.ai/docs/edgetpu/multiple-edgetpu/#using-the-tensorflow-lite-python-api
    device: usb

[gilded pewter]

for example for https://github.com/Bram-diederik/secureVPNwithLocalLan because android cant handle multiple vpns at once.

[rare fossil]

if it's not showing up as a device, then that'll be kind of tough (to get working that way), though I am familiar with how to set up the coral in the settings

[brisk willow]

you don't need to worry about that

[rare fossil]

ok. I'll try it, but it blew up the last time. I know, what does "blew up" mean?

[fleet lynx]

Having an issue where the VM running HAos cant get internet. I has worked, until i updated it like 1-2 weeks ago. I just updated HA - and now it wont work.

[rare fossil]

no edgetpu detected

[brisk willow]

not sure what special things might be required for Supervised

if you're using the frigate add-on, it should "just work"

[rare fossil]

yes, that's what I'm using

[meager heron]

How to install HAOS without UEFI?

[rare fossil]

I followed the official coral instructions and I was able to successfully run the test. I can see the device ID in the HA terminal, and it's the same id as it is on the host.

[brisk willow]

i don't run an install method with add-ons, so i probably won't be of much help

[gilded pewter]

I have it running

[rare fossil]

ok, just have to turn protected mode off for frigate!

[rare fossil]

it would be better to lower the permissions of what it needs, but this is all brand new to me.

[brisk willow]

seriously: #installation-archived message

i'd also like to again recommend switching to HA OS

[rare fossil]

I was using a different machine for this, and I didn't want to use the entire machine for HA. I'm using a pi4 now, so i'll give that a shaky maaayyyyyyyyybe

[brisk willow]

please stop with the pings

[rare fossil]

who?

I'm not doing anything deliberately.

[brisk willow]

every time you use the quote feature, the default is ON for pings. please turn it off

anyway, if you're running things outside of the HA ecosystem on HA Supervised, then your install method will be unsupported

HA Container is a good choice if you want to run other things on the host

[rare fossil]

where is that setting? I tried to find it.

[brisk willow]

#installation-archived message

[rare fossil]

yeah, but where is it?

[rare fossil]

ok, found it. didn't realize I had to try to quote first. better?

[rare fossil]

The Coral tpu and my external drive really don't work well together. kernel:[ 155.634149] EXT4-fs (sda2): failed to convert unwritten extents to written extents -- potential data loss!

only happens when the coral is attached/used

[worthy swallow]

Anyone running HomeAssistant on Docker behind Traefik? I have these labels on the compose but I keep getting a bad gateway error

- traefik.enable=true
- traefik.http.routers.hass.rule=Host(`hass.${DOMAIN}`)
- traefik.http.routers.hass.entrypoints=websecure
- traefik.http.services.hass.loadbalancer.server.url=http://${HOSTNAME}
- traefik.http.services.hass.loadbalancer.server.port=8123

[low notch]

did you setup http:accordingly?

[worthy swallow]

HA instance is reachable through IP so I suppose. I suspect it's traefik redirecting the request to localhost of it's network which breaks things

[humble scaffold]

HTTP

Quality scale

:house: Internal

IoT Class

Local Push

Documentation

View the documentation

Source

View the source on GitHub

Issues

View known issues

[low notch]

you need use_x_forwarded_for and trusted_proxies added

[worthy swallow]

Thanks, I'll look into that

[rare fossil]

I'm going to install HA OS. I want to see if my supervised install was what caused the filesystem error

[fleet lynx]

Can someone help me get connection on my HAOS through VM VirtualBox? It did work before, but now, after an update to HA, i cant get it to work.

[gilded pewter]

@grand pivot FYI I successfully installed Home assistant on a VM on my raspberry pi 4 8gig. and made my phone assistant fail over. I tested it. and made several calls after each other and there is always a phone assistant up to pick up the call and tells Im busy playing with home automation.

Like i said no imagination

Oh and i forgot to increase the memory from the cloned vm from 512 to recommended settings. Lets see what 1024 mb will do

[brittle sail]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-you-youre-crazy-will-ferrell-i-like-you-but-gif-5858970

[gilded pewter]

I call my self daft_dutch dont you think i dont know

and think what you can do. No stranger can call me awake at night anymore. And im always reachable for close friends and family

[heady nova]

Is it possible to check which WiFi driver version is included in HA OS 9.3?

[austere venture]

Can you move a HA instance between old/new machine just by swapping the hard drive or does HA require the installer to create hardware configurations? Making it specific to that one machine?

[humble mirage]

Depends on the hardware

Moving from a Pi to any other model of Pi, or other hardware, won't work

Moving from one PC to another PC will work - at least if the new PC's hardware is supported

[fleet lynx]

"nmcli con" returns Error: NetworkManager is not running.

Cant find how to start it?

[humble mirage]

What's your install method? HAOS, Supervised, Container?

[fleet lynx]

HAOS

[humble mirage]

I suspect that nmcli will only work on the console, not over SSH

[fleet lynx]

I'm in the CLI

[humble mirage]

As in, console - keyboard and monitor?

[fleet lynx]

Yes.

Got it running on a Windows Server on VM Virtual Box. So i'm connected via Remote Desktop.

[humble mirage]

Not sure then, maybe try a reboot?

[fleet lynx]

Tried it. Both for the VM and the Server. After the latest update, it cant get connection.

I updated HA, that broke it all.

[humble mirage]

Updating HA shouldn't break the OS

[fleet lynx]

The OS itself seems to be working, however the NetworkManager doesen't seem to connect anymore. And that was the only thing i did.

https://imgur.com/qoXw52O

[humble scaffold]

@vague quartz I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[vague quartz]

Greetings all. I have been trying to deploy VScode stack
vscode:
container_name: vscode
image: codercom/code-server
volumes:
- /home/smartnepal/Docker/VSCode:/config
- /home/smartnepal/Docker/VSCode:/home/coder/.local/share/code-server
ports:
- "8443:8080"
command: code-server --auth none --disable-telemetry /config
restart: unless-stopped

Above is the command on portainer I have been using. However it is giving error message. It says, 'Failure failed to deploy a stack: vscode Pulling no matching manifest for linux/arm/v7 in the manifest list entries". I also tried the same through terminal but it still showed the same error.
can anyone please help

[manic bane]

Well is there images released for arm with that container image?

[red lichen]

Not arm32

[vague quartz]

Possibly, that is the issue i figured. Thus, I tried changing the image for those docker pull VScode image to hegerdes/vscode-latex.

After changing the code, even my Home Assistant container didn't work. It gave this error. "Failure
failed to deploy a stack: Network ha_default Creating Network ha_default Created Container vscode Creating Container homeassistant Creating Container vscode Created Container homeassistant Created Container vscode Starting Container homeassistant Starting Container homeassistant Started Error response from daemon: failed to create shim task: OCI runtime create failed: runc create failed: unable to start container process: exec: "code-server": executable file not found in $PATH: unknown"

[humble mirage]

The HA container needs to use host networking

[humble scaffold]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

[humble mirage]

Please use a code share site to share the whole compose file, or at least the relevant section, it'll be easier to help you

[vague quartz]

As my previous IP got hacked. I am just getting restarted with the stack and have installed HA only before going for VScode. https://codeshare.io/vwWJql

[humble mirage]

    ports:
      - "8123:8123"
``` that's the wrong approach, everything that relies on broadcasts will fail

You'll also need to map the config folder for HA into VSCode if you want to use it to edit anything in HA

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#docker-compose

[vague quartz]

Thanks a lot. Hopefully, after changing the stack and mapping cofig folder for HA to VScode, codercom container image will work. Thanks

[glad bay]

Hi, it's possible to install home assistant os to work via wifi, right? or will it only work with ethernet cable ?

[manic bane]

It will work. But it's not supported or recommended as server hardware shouldn't be on wifi

[glad bay]

yes, i understand, this is mostly to setup a bunch of stuff. I don't have any ethernet cable, in the room where my computer is

[manic bane]

What are you setting up that needs the device next to you

[glad bay]

for now, i'm trying to set up my 3d printers

so i will need to setup moonraker, and the smart plug of tapo that i have

ill move to #add-ons-archived for further question, as i don't want to flood in the wrong place ^^

[manic bane]

You don't need the device next to it for that? You set up the HA device and then access it over the web interface

[glad bay]

yes it's true, it's just that i don't have any ethernet cable next to my computer, I didn't want to climb the stairs up an down many times in case my installation process didn't work

and I don't think i have an ethernet cable available at all as of right now

[vague quartz]

Hardware: RPi4, OS is 32 bit raspbian. Trying to download VScode in docker with image codercom.code:focal (as it was tagged as arm 64). It gives an error Failure failed to deploy a stack: vscode Pulling no matching manifest for linux/arm/v7 in the manifest list entries. Also HA container stops running simultaneously.

[covert burrow]

Hi, I'm from Libre Computer and we're interested in making a generic ARM64 EFI build of HA for our hardware, is there someone to talk to?

all of our boards are standardized around ARM EBBR spec with EFI boot and a lot of users have asked us for support for HA

was wondering if we should do this on our own and release it or work with HA and have official support

we roll out standard Ubuntu/Debian images already

[brisk willow]

VSCode isn't available for 32-bit

[vague quartz]

Is it recent? I was running VS code from a slightly different portainer type around 15 days ago.. As my system got hacked, I am redoing it again. This time, following a slightly different track

[manic bane]

Why would you install 32bit though

[vague quartz]

As I am new to home Assistant, didn't know that 64 bit version also exist

[manic bane]

Also, how did your system get hacked

[manic bane]

Well you installed raspbian not HAOS

And so you run your own containers too

Since you don't have a supervisor

[vague quartz]

I was trying to find alternative to Nabu casa so I tried using Duck DNS and Cloudfare too. Exactly don't know what happened but after multiple try for port forwarding for duck DNS and AP authorization attempt for cloudfare, my system got hacked

[brisk willow]

How do you know you got hacked?

[brittle sail]

it sounds like he exposed it to wan without a login lol

[brisk willow]

Also I missed that you have an rpi4, so yeah, why not use the 64-bit version of Raspbian?

[brittle sail]

or with some easy to guess pw

[manic bane]

2FA ftw

[vague quartz]

When I booted my system, it was asking for pairing request and without me doing anything my system was behaving wierd

[manic bane]

What do you mean by pairing request?

If you mean offering integrations as possible options then that's standard HA

If you mean Bluetooth then anyone in the area couldve just tapped pair

[vague quartz]

the request, I rejected. However, it was sending a loop of 4 digit number. Also, this request was active only when I was using the browser... In addition, some of my portainer installation were auto starting, closing and there were some other weird things occuring

[manic bane]

What do you mean by a request of a loop of a 4 digit number

Also curious, how did you port forward when you used duckdns or did you use CloudFlare Tunnels

[vague quartz]

In my screen there was 2104 for pairing request (I only had option to reject, so I did) after 0.5 second of reject there was 5498 for pairing request and it continues....

I couldn't use both of these for even a single time

As in Cloudfare, while AP authorization submit, it was showing error. In duck DNS, I just followed a YouTube channel. Don't remember much as I was about 1.5 months ago. What I remember then is that, suddenly after attempting for this DNS, I couldn't get access to Portainer, Pi-hole and graphana through my iframe panel.. that was the only issue so instead of logging in through iframe panel, I worked from IP and assigned port then

[manic bane]

AP authorisation? What?
Did you have to port forward anything from the router to your device

[manic bane]

That just sounds like Bluetooth tbh

[vague quartz]

However, other iframe panel such as node red hacs were smoothly running then

[vague quartz]

But this only happened while running chromium browser

[manic bane]

Start from the beginning. You had HA accessible from outside the network using duckdns. What did you port forward from your router
What else did you expose

[vague quartz]

I exactly don't remember.

What do you suggest now

[manic bane]

Unless you know how to be safe, don't port forward or expose anything to the internet

And if you can't remember what you did that's just as dangerous

[vague quartz]

Is it a good idea to reboot to 64 bit OS now

Now unless I know more about that, I will opt for Nabu casa

As I cannot get access to VS code

Is it really due to me downloading 32 bit raspbian OS

[vague quartz]

After Add integration from HA, and Cloudfare it automatically asks for AP authorization..

[brisk willow]

Yes, 32-bit is the issue

[manic bane]

What AP authorisation? Also why did you add the CloudFlare integration

[vague quartz]

So that I could use home Assistant app from outside my house

[vague quartz]

Rebooted my RPi 4 to the 64 bit version.. The performance is extremely slow though. I am unable to understand the reason.. Should I update PPPOE or anything?? Clueless

[humble mirage]

64 bit HAOS?

It may still be doing the initial install, give it another 10 minutes and see if it settles

[vague quartz]

64 bit raspberry pi

[humble mirage]

You didn't flash the Pi with another Pi

Really... that's not a thing

[manic bane]

Going by what they said before, raspbian

And I hope with docker but was unclear

[vague quartz]

sudo docker pull portainer/portainer-ce:linux-arm
linux-arm: Pulling from portainer/portainer-ce
no matching manifest for linux/arm64/v8 in the manifest list entries

this was working fine with the 32 bit version. Now it says no matching manifest

[humble mirage]

Because there's no 64 bit version for ARM

[vague quartz]

so what do i do now for portainer

[humble mirage]

Not use it

Write your compose files, use compose

[vague quartz]

isn't portainer not available on 64 bit version

[humble mirage]

The error you got suggests no, at least not with the tag linux-arm

Is there a reason you're using that tag, rather than just letting Docker sort it out?

Or, even using the right tag for your architecture?

[vague quartz]

ok i will try without arm tag then

[humble mirage]

Remember you can look up the tags and architectures for any Docker image

[vague quartz]

thanks. will do some research with tags and architect; then will proceed.

[humble mirage]

If you need more help with Portainer itself, they have a Slack channel

[obtuse talon]

can i have a password change

[manic bane]

Its your own instance so yes?

[humble mirage]

can i have a password change

[marsh gull]

hi, i am trying to locate where on my sd card the backup is stored for home assistant. I believe I installed home assistant supervised on a pi4.

https://peyanski.com/how-to-install-home-assistant-supervised-official-way/

i may have followed that how to there

[high scaffold]

Are there directions on how to migrate from one install to another?

[marsh gull]

it def said "you are running an unsupported installation"

[humble mirage]

From what install type to what install type?

[high scaffold]

I think i'm running docker and moving to a lxc container

[humble mirage]

Do you already have backups?

[high scaffold]

I can't figure out how to donwload my backup files which is also annoying

I have backups

[humble mirage]

Well, you can't restore the backups from the built in backup "tool" unless you're using Home Assistant OS

[high scaffold]

Ah

[humble mirage]

You'll have to do it manually - extract the contents to the desired location

[high scaffold]

Maybe i'll just do a haos VM then

instead of a lxc container

Ah... found my backups! 🙂

[magic idol]

Just installed HOME assistent on the RPI but nothing shows on my hdmi connected monitor
Does HA OS support any monitor features?

[pearl mantle]

You should at least have the command line show up

[magic idol]

i see nothing

[pearl mantle]

Guys I'm very new to Docker and I installed it on my Pi 4 with rPi OS. Then I pulled the HA container and set it all up.
And then I discovered Docker volumes. Should I start over with HA and install it on it's own volume?

[pearl mantle]

Is the Pi turned on lol?

[magic idol]

yess

my monitor says no signal tho

oh i see stuff now

after rebooting it

and it's a black screen now

yeah it stays a black screen

[pearl mantle]

What did you see after you rebooted it?

[magic idol]

pretty much looked like it booted up

saw the command line outputting things real fast

[humble mirage]

There's no local UI

[magic idol]

not on an HDMI?

[humble mirage]

Also, with HAOS if the monitor isn't connected when it boots the monitor isn't enabled

There's no local UI

none

[magic idol]

ok

[humble mirage]

It's 100% web based

[magic idol]

i was scared i destroyed both hdmi ports or something

thank god

LOL

[pearl mantle]

Ah well there you go, sorry I didn't realise.

[magic idol]

i do have another question

not sure if this is the right place...

but i have a bluetooth issue.

my RPI has build in bluetooth. but HA says there is no bluetooth adapter found? lol

[magic idol]

no worries :P

[steel sky]

Does the ha core logs command have anything like the -f flag of docker logs? I'd like to see my logs as they apea... I could just use tail -f on the log file... never mind

That doesn't give me colors, though. My question still stands.

[vivid karma]

I was able to boot from the usb however that didn't install from the USB. The website doesn't explain how to do this step

I followed these instructions https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-operating-system

I'd prefer it if it was installed to the hard disk and overwrites the existing windows install

I see I may have skipped over some stuff since I expected it to not require two USB sticks and a live version of ubuntu....

[copper steppe]

Installing haos doesn't need any of that. Write a USB of the install image, boot it, select the hard-disk, install.

[vivid karma]

It didn't ask for install? I downloaded from here https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/

I chose haos_generic-x86-64-9.3.img.xz

it offers no install when booted

just runs hass os from the usb

[copper steppe]

to be honest, I never installed haos natively. I run in virtualbox or proxmox

[vivid karma]

wish me luck

[copper steppe]

I've been using proxmox for a few days now. LOVE IT

Then you can use https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/ scripts to install stuff (like HA) with one-shot command.

[manic bane]

Use your USB. Create a bootable Linux/ etc system. Then use dd or balena or whatever to install onto the main drive

Or take the drive, connect it to your computer and install directly onto that drive

[vivid karma]

yeah balena is failing to run well in the live environment. I need to figure out the exact dd command to run

[vivid karma]

I think I got it working

thanks for letting me ask silly questions

[copper steppe]

No problem. Maybe paste what you did wrong here, for future generations to learn from

[vivid karma]

1. assumed it worked like most OS installs and so I copied the haos img to a usb and skipped ahead 🤦‍♂️
2. The documentation identified steps to fix balena on a live system but it was hidden under a expandable box labelled "ubuntu's dependency for etcher"
3. Once I had balena running on a live image ubuntu I was able to image my drive with the haos img

[vague quartz]

I am running VScode stack. Want to run Docker compose and Home Assistant Inside VS Code. As I am running the below mentioned command, the binding isn't done. Can somebody help
#VSCode
vscode:
container_name: vscode
image: codercom/code-server
volumes:
- /home/smartnepal/Docker/VSCode:/config
- /home/smartnepal/Docker/VSCode:/home/coder/.local/share/code-server
ports:
- "8443:8080"
command: code-server --auth none --disable-telemetry /config
restart: unless-stopped

The stack is deployed from the Portainer (under home assistant stack) and I have used host network mode for home assistant

How can I run HA (with YAML file access), and Docker from VScode..

[brisk willow]

Why are you mounting the same path on the host to two paths in the container? I don't use code-server, but I'm thinking the first one is supposed to be the path to your HA config?

[vague quartz]

Did this thinking that would keep my codes clean and trackable later as I have just stated with HA, Docker, YAML, basically everything.

[brisk willow]

I'm saying it doesn't make sense for you to mount the same directory on the host to two paths in the container

It seems like the first path should be the path to your HA config

[vague quartz]

so is it a better idea to mount another directory?

or shall i change the host path to Home assistant configuration

[brisk willow]

I've answered that twice

[heady olive]

hi guys, i desperately need assistance. im pretty basic at this stuff, slowly trying to learn, im running HA as a VM on unraid and its bloody filling up on me and i dont know where to look. i started at 32gb, filled it, went to 35gb filled it, went to 40gb last night and im apparently at 39gb. its not my MariaDB DB file as its only around 10Gb. any recommendations please

[copper steppe]

what is using the space? likely some addons. My system is maybe 10GB

[heady olive]

im not sure, thats what i need to find out but not sure how to find anymore.

[vague quartz]

#VSCode
vscode:
container_name: vscode
image: codercom/code-server
environment:
PASSWORD: "R!Z#ee"
volumes:
- /home/smartnepal/Docker/VSCode:/home/coder/.local/share/code-server
- /home/smartnepal/Docker/HomeAssistant:/home/coder/project
ports:
- "8443:8080"
command: code-server --auth password --disable-telemetry /config
restart: unless-stopped
is it incorrect anywhere.. may be in setting up the environment or mapping it HomeAssistant folder
this is the error it shows. failed to deploy a stack: (root) Additional property vscode is not allowed

[humble scaffold]

To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
example: here
```
Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

[humble mirage]

This is more #general-archived than installation, since you're not trying to install HA. It would help us however if you tell us what docs you're following here, and if you used either proper code markup or a code share site so we can see your YAML

[heady olive]

anyone able to assist on this one at all?

[humble mirage]

Could be the log file

Go to the config folder and type:

du -m --max-depth 1 |sort -n

[burnt mango]

Whats the recommended install for home assistant, i read in the instruction about a pi4 but im thinking about maybe setting up a linux or windows VM and installing on that, is this not a good idea?

[humble mirage]

Pi is the entry level approach

[burnt mango]

so for low key stuff just to play around with?

[humble mirage]

Well, it's the minimum viable platform

A Pi4+SSD is fine, running on an SD not so much

[burnt mango]

right ok, so if your setting one up from scratch and want it to do everything what base would you ideally use?

[humble mirage]

Proper hardware

[burnt mango]

like a VM with Windows on it?

[humble mirage]

Personally Debian + HA in Docker (Container), but it's your choice

[burnt mango]

ok so docker in Debian and HA in a container

[humble mirage]

If you like that

Some people want add-ons and a pretty UI

[burnt mango]

ow right ok, i need to read more it sounds like, thanks im a noob here just trying to work stuff out

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation#compare-installation-methods - but ignore Supervised and Core

[burnt mango]

so OS is a base operating system?

and HA installed onto that ?

[humble mirage]

HAOS is an "appliance like experience"

#general-archived message

[burnt mango]

Great thanks

[nimble dragon]

So I’m planning to -eventually- use cameras and a coral usb accelerator for frigate in my home assistant setup, and I’m moving my home assistant install to a new computer.

I see in the frigate docs it’s recommended to use a separate docker container for frigate and use the proxy add-on… but I’ve heard bad things about supervised

So, I’m not sure what the best way to do this would be (HAOS vs supervised vs container on a separate OS). Anyone have any input on this?

I do use add ons so I think I’m kinda stuck with HAOS or supervised

[brisk willow]

HA OS is the way if you want add-ons, but keep in mind that add-ons are just pieces of software you could install standalone

[nimble dragon]

I am mildly competent with linux and docker so that is a possibility, I just am not 100% sure about how much effort I’d be putting in to change from the the nice integrated add-on versions to standalone or other docker containers.

[brisk willow]

Not much especially if you're already familiar with Docker

And especially with docker-compose

[brazen herald]

And you can do a slow migration over time, which is how I'm doing it. Move one addon to docker, repeat the next day, get distracted with new shiny projects, and eventually I'll finish

[nimble dragon]

I suppose I could run HAOS in a vm?

[brazen herald]

Yes, but what is the benefit of that?

[nimble dragon]

Mostly being keeping the set up I have and being able to do things outside of HAOS without having to run supervised. It’s a kludge for sure

[brazen herald]

I would focus on migrating over to docker containers instead. You can retain your setup, you'll just need to tweak some things—likely everything that would need tweaking when you migrate to a new install anyway

[knotty summit]

can home assistant be installed on a ras pi zero 2 w

idc about like performance

[brisk willow]

Yes || but performance will be horrible ||

[knotty summit]

i want to use it as a basic input output lol

idc about performance

[brisk willow]

There's almost definitely a better solution

What are you trying to do?

[knotty summit]

Detect if input is on, then if on it doesnt do anything but if off and i give it a command it turns it on

detecting power led on a pc so it doesnt turn it off when i tell it to turn it on

its more of a learning experience with micro code /electronics

and i want to use a zero 2 w since i have no ethernet and the zero 2 is cheap

it can be powered by standby usb power is why ras pi

does home assistant have gpio pin support, ive seen contrary reports

[humble mirage]

Not any more, no

You'd be a lot better off using an ESP for that

[knotty summit]

ok

[placid sage]

👀 HI, my installation never stops prepare, i have a raspberry 4/ 8 gb and have flash a 64 bit installation to my sd card, I have try to flach it 2 times with same result today. It alarms for internal server error. Is there any sulotion for this

[crude inlet]

Probably DNS

<#installation-archived message>

[keen shale]

Had the same problem. Check if your SD Card is compatible with the PI. Had the same on raspi 3b+ and the problem was an SDXC card, but it only supports SDHC

[keen shale]

Portable SSD was my solution for this, worked instantly fine on first try

[brazen herald]

SSD > (micro) SD any day of the week anyway.

[grizzled minnow]

as #449717345808547842 is archived i'm not sure if this is the right place now but: https://hub.docker.com/r/homeassistant/home-assistant/tags does not have a tag for 2022.11 as per normal. it does however have a 2022.11.0

oversight?

maybe i'm just catching it before it's posted... looks like vevery ~4 minutes 'pvizeli' is updating another tag. 2022.11.0 first, then stable, now latest... 2022.11 might be next.

[stray shard]

hi , had the same issue on HA stucking at preparing page , im running it on proxmox

any suggestions?

[flat flume]

Hi everyone,
I've got an issue with the manual installation of HomeAssistant on a Raspberry PI 4. I followed ( 2 times) the process on webpage and everything until the command 'hass' is ok. But this one never give up. Nevertheless after a while I can connect on the HomeAssistant webpage, configure account and connect some Tuya item for example. But, I think after a timeout, the web page of HA is not accessible anymore.
Is anyone have a idee of how troubleshooting this?

[humble mirage]

Hi everyone

[heady olive]

i cant add pics for some reason, but unless im doing it wrong, i dont think i need to be in console to view the size of the files. i can do that in unraid. tells me the same thing as i went cd /mnt/user/domains/home_assistant

[humble scaffold]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[heady olive]

https://imgur.com/a/lUARZnl

[humble scaffold]

@heady olive When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[humble mirage]

You need to run that command inside the HA config folder

[vapid kraken]

Heyas, I have a RP3 hassio setup since quite some time and the pi is connected via LAN and wifi. I used back in the time the usb stick method to put wifi config onto the device. The LAN connection never worked for some reason but wifi did. Yesterday our router stopped working and I got a replacement router from the Telco. So I assume that ip changed. Right now I am not able to connect to hassio at all anymore and the pi doesn´t show up in my router anywhere. What is the way to fix it? Again using a usb stick with updated wifi config?

[hot egret]

hey everyone, i did the update to 2022.11.0 this morning and my home assistant stopped working - is anyone able to help / give me some tips on troubleshooting this?

I am using haos 9.3

using the "login" command at the haos console, I can get into the homeassistant container with "docker exec -it homeassistant bash"

when i run "cat /config/configuration.yaml" it prints a default file.... my local changes are missing

the "http:" section is gone, and my instance is no longer listening on port 443 or presenting a TLS certificate

i can access it on the default URL of "http://homeassistant.local:8123" but when i try to login it says the user doesnt exist

its as if it has been reset to factory default

[manic bane]

Have you got backups

[hot egret]

unfortunately, only partial

😭

but..... looking closer.... i can see my user is the /config/.storage/auth file

so its not entirely reset

perhaps just re-editing the configuration.yaml will get me away.....

[manic bane]

Then you may be stuffed, if your config is empty then something broke

[hot egret]

yeah - i'm trying to work out what went wrong

[manic bane]

I would do a full reinstall personally

[hot egret]

really trying to avoid setting up all my zigbee devices again 😦

[manic bane]

Used zha?

[hot egret]

yes

i haven't previous had issues with upgrades.... this was unexpected.... can't find other complaints online.... so i seem to be an isolated case?

[manic bane]

Unsure on how to back that one up sorry. I use zigbee2mqtt

[manic bane]

Alas perils of being early updater

Especially without backups

[hot egret]

i wonder if more complaints will come in

[hybrid pasture]

How can I uninstall several themes that I have installed in hacs? Thank you

[humble mirage]

Remove them using HACS?

[hybrid pasture]

yes

[quasi glen]

Hello everyone. I am new to home assistant. just set up my odroid N2+. At first I could access http://homeassistant.local:8123/ and even entered my profile. After about 30 min an error popped up. (homeassistant.local’s DNS address could not be found. Diagnosing the problem.). Now I can't use home assistant using http://homeassistant.local:8123/ or 192.168.x.x:8123. Can anyone help me?

[manic bane]

Are you sure the local IP is correct

Also don't need to censor it. Your 192.168.0.25 is not accessible outside of your network

[quasi glen]

Yes. homeassistant shows on my home network.

[manic bane]

And what does the console on the device say

Plus can you ping the IP

[quasi glen]

How do I do that?

[manic bane]

First question, what does the console on the device say

If you plug it in to a monitor what comes up

• I presume you installed HAOS?

[quasi glen]

Yes

[manic bane]

So first question

What happens if it's plugged into a monitor

[quasi glen]

I will check it

I can't attach photo. Would you mind if I DM you?

Now that I have moved odroid to anothe place it started working. Can it be an issue with the cable?

[humble scaffold]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[manic bane]

Yes it could be

[quasi glen]

Is there a difference for odroid if I plug cat 5 or cat 6

[crude inlet]

No. But it could be bad cable vs good cable

[manic bane]

Especially so if one is handmade

[long terrace]

Trying to install my HA on a virtual machine, and I believe I’m doing everything correct but I keep getting a EUFI terminal

[manic bane]

How are you installing it

[long terrace]

Through virtual machine

[manic bane]

And what host for the VM

[long terrace]

And I tried through VMware

[manic bane]

Yes I got that. However you never said what install method

HAOS?

[long terrace]

I believe so

[manic bane]

Well how are you doing the install

[long terrace]

There was a link for the corresponding VM

[manic bane]

Okay then HAOS

[long terrace]

I install it to a file on my computer and then run it

and I make sure that it is the bootable media

[manic bane]

Are you following any guide?

[long terrace]

yes

the guide on the HA website as well as several through YouTube all telling me the same thing

[manic bane]

HAOS is not something that you install, the vm images should be bootable straight away

Import and go

[long terrace]

Correct yes and it’s opening a EUFI config

[manic bane]

So presume this is the place you downloaded the image from?

[long terrace]

I followed this to a tea lol

and yet same thing

and I made sure virtualization is on ofc

[humble scaffold]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[manic bane]

Use this and share a screenshot

[long terrace]

https://gyazo.com/833fe5e88a7c0fa24b7f69345a8fcc86

[vagrant jasper]

So I lost my pi password, but have access to HA interface.

What kind of backup will keep my HA installation without keeping the pi's password? I'm not seeing an easy way to reset it.

[brisk willow]

https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/locked_out/

[long terrace]

anyone have any suggestions for my gyazo posted?

[low notch]

did you set the boot device properly?

[long terrace]

I thought so, but am also not 100% sure, I downloaded it, unzipped it to downloads folder. when I selected the boot device I used “use an existing hard drive” as suggested. and then I ensure uefi is enabled as suggested and run the vm. That’s when this error pops up

and the hard drive or boot medium I believe is the thing I downloaded from HA

[low notch]

"use an existing hard drive" usually is told in the "add a hard disk to your vm" dialogue

normally the boot drive gets determined later

you might need a additional checkbox checked you havent found yet

[long terrace]

Im not sure what it could be

but I understand, I am also running it on a old PC I have

But it doesn’t want to finish configuring even once I connect to it on the web browser

[low notch]

something like this (this is kvm, so yours will look different)
https://imgur.com/a/F6WiwER

[long terrace]

I believe I have my Optical at the top of boot priority

[low notch]

remove that optical drive, you dont need it

[long terrace]

which one do I run first ?

[brisk willow]

But how else am I supposed to install my free trial of AOL?

[brittle sail]

Y o u v e g o t m a i l

[long terrace]

Same thing if ran w hard drive

[low notch]

your hdd is supposed to be in this list

[long terrace]

it is

But it is still doing the thing

[low notch]

go to hangout and share your screen will be easier

[long terrace]

Can’t talk rn

Gf is work from home rn

But I can share lol

and listen

[long terrace]

https://gyazo.com/d748c7f54772989ba25d93e0e2be6937

can anyone tell me what to do for this

Somehow got the vdi file on the vm, now the it’s not connecting to docker daemon!!

[long terrace]

it is for virtualbox on windows 11

[long terrace]

any suggestions

getting "cannot connect to the docker daemon at unix://var/run/docker.sock

[long terrace]

may have to use another product than home assistant

[humble mirage]

Or, if you know a little Linux/Docker, switch to a pure Docker install

[long terrace]

is there a link to how to install it that way?

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-container

Personally I recommend https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#docker-compose

Debian + Docker is a nice solution for running lots of things

[long terrace]

still confused on this invalid superblock checksum. run e2fsck?

[crude inlet]

I don't think you have set up the virtual machine correctly

[long terrace]

i can share my screen, but i dont know what i could be doing wrong

[humble mirage]

invalid superblock checksum. run e2fsck
That's ... not a healthy sign. If you wrote a valid image your storage device is failing

[long terrace]

i cant talk but tryna voice hangout and i can share screen?

https://gyazo.com/ef222f67f29c618116429e3db293cbe8

heres a gif of what it looks like

https://gyazo.com/9070e75e0b0861c78d684f430424acfe

now its just saying waiting for the home assistant CLI to be ready

[low notch]

did you stop clicking around randomly by now?

[long terrace]

hahahaha

literally @low notch

im angsty ive been trying to get this working for a day now

[low notch]

then maybe follow the steps exactly from the official documentation

the uefi issue you had was merely because you setup something else

[long terrace]

i did! even did it on a second comp, on there its just not setting up the download keeps failing

[low notch]

thats a network issue then

[long terrace]

hmmmmmmmmmm

so odd

didnt think it would be this bad!

or hard for me

[low notch]

maybe try tinkerer's advice?
you need some sort of docker experience anyway when things go wrong

[long terrace]

that is fair, i was just hoping it wouldnt be that hard lol. on my good computer it isnt downloading to even start HA and on my shit PC i can start HA but not preparing

[low notch]

the docker error you see in virtualbox just tells me that your cpu or settings probably prevent something like virtualization or nested virtualization

[long terrace]

i had to enable virtualization in my BIOS

[low notch]

while docker does not need virtualization itself (the vm does though) - I have no idea what else than this prevents it from starting up in the premade HAOS image

[long terrace]

I may try it through the container method I just liked how core ran, I’ve heard of other apps that connect smart devices it may not be as clean but it may do

[high scaffold]

I'm running HAOS inside Proxmox VM -> and i am having issues with my addons. They dont "appear" to start except from the logs it looks like they did start. Any ideas?

[high scaffold]

I just had to reboot - and reinstall my addons

[long terrace]

issue with downloading docker image on the preparing home assistant phase on configuration

[humble mirage]

What does the error say?

[long terrace]

'ResolutionFixup.run_autofix' blocked from execution, system is not healthy

a bit more errors but im not sure why

INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.FATAL_ERROR - ContextType.STORE / a0d7b954
22-11-03 16:21:45 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.store.git] Can't clone https://github.com/esphome/home-assistant-addon repository: Cmd('git') failed due to: exit code(128)
cmdline: git clone -v --recursive --depth=1 --shallow-submodules https://github.com/esphome/home-assistant-addon /data/addons/git/5c53de3b
stderr: 'Cloning into '/data/addons/git/5c53de3b'...
fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/esphome/home-assistant-addon/': Could not resolve host: github.com

some more e rrors

maybe having trouble downloading the image once the vm is setup, the errors occur while preparing HA

[humble mirage]

You have a DNS problem

[long terrace]

how would i fix this? im connected with the right adapter?

[humble mirage]

Could not resolve host: github.com

#installation-archived message

[long terrace]

just did it will update

just reloaded the supervisor as well after that

ERROR (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.10.2: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.10.2&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Famd64-hassio-supervisor&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
22-11-03 16:28:21 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.UPDATE_FAILED - ContextType.SUPERVISOR / None
22-11-03 16:28:21 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.supervisor] Update of Supervisor failed: Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.10.2: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.10.2&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Famd64-hassio-supervisor&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
22-11-03 16:28:21 CRITICAL (MainThread) [supervisor.core] Can't update Supervisor! This will break some Add-ons or affect future versions of Home Assistant!

interesting

D/ContextType.DNS_SERVER
22-11-03 16:29:37 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.NO_CURRENT_BACKUP/ContextType.SYSTEM
22-11-03 16:29:37 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new suggestion SuggestionType.CREATE_FULL_BACKUP - ContextType.SYSTEM / None
22-11-03 16:29:37 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.NO_CURRENT_BACKUP - ContextType.SYSTEM / None
22-11-03 16:29:37 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.PWNED/ContextType.ADDON
22-11-03 16:29:37 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.check] System checks complete
22-11-03 16:29:37 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] Starting system evaluation with state CoreState.RUNNING
22-11-03 16:29:38 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] System evaluation complete
22-11-03 16:29:38 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'ResolutionFixup.run_autofix' blocked from execution, system is not healthy
22-11-03 16:30:07 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.dns] Restarting CoreDNS plugin
22-11-03 16:30:07 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Restarting ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-dns
22-11-03 16:30:11 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.dbus] D-Bus method org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.call_get_all not exists!
22-11-03 16:30:11 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.dbus.network] Can't process /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/22:
22-11-03 16:30:11 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.dbus] D-Bus method org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.call_get_all not exists!
22-11-03 16:30:11 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.dbus.network] Can't process /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/23:
22-11-03 16:30:11 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.dbus] D-Bus method org.freedesktop.DBus.Propertie

im sorry for the spam guys ):

[crude inlet]

Did you reboot the host after this network change?

Or only restart HA

[humble scaffold]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

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[long terrace]

good to know

and i rebooted HA

not necessarily the PC

[crude inlet]

Reboot host. Or restart HA. Those are two separate things.

[long terrace]

host as in the PC im running it on?

[crude inlet]

The VM if this is a VM

[long terrace]

ohhhhhhh yes

i have restarted the vm

just did again

will update, odd its not connecting to download

2-11-03 16:38:38 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor with tag 2022.10.2.

at this the last few mins @crude inlet

https://paste.debian.net/1259443/

the very bottom is the prob

[brazen herald]

Does your network support IPV6?

[high scaffold]

New HAOS isntall in a vim - Clicked "Add Integration" and it just hangs ... i'll try a reboot but wondering if anybody seen this before

[long terrace]

not necessarily sure but i would assume

[brazen herald]

Well the error right at the end says it's running into an IPV6 network. If you don't know that your network supports IPV6 it probably doesn't and it may be worth turning it off in HA as part of the troubleshooting

[long terrace]

would that fix the other problems? with it not downloading?

[brazen herald]

You have network problems, it's almost certainly a DNS issue, but if it's trying to talk over IPV6 as well as IPV4 then you're going to have to fix both

[long terrace]

i cant even access the supervisor

to disable ipv6

i did recently set a new dns server to googles

[brazen herald]

Which won't be the problem, though I'd always recommend CloudFlare over Google

[long terrace]

i can change it to that but i had it at that before

[brazen herald]

With the number of issues you've been having with the VM I'd just go with a docker container personally

[long terrace]

dang

ive tried 3 different VM's as well

would i just run that on windows or still through a VM?

[humble mirage]

VM with Debian

[long terrace]

ok ok ok ok i heard i wouldnt have as much access to configure addons is that true?

[humble mirage]

It's true, but add-ons are just software running in a container

So, instead of the Mosquitto add-on, you'd run Mosquitto in Docker instead

[long terrace]

would that be home assistant core?

[humble mirage]

The main difference is that instead of a GUI you add some lines to a Docker Compose file

[brazen herald]

Container

[long terrace]

trying to find download link atm

[brazen herald]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-container

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#docker-compose

[long terrace]

would i have to install docker on my vm?

[humble mirage]

You can get Debian from https://www.debian.org/download

Because Docker on Windows is broken

[brazen herald]

Why do you need a VM at all for docker? Just install linux on the machine

[long terrace]

so run that on my VM, and then download the docker on there?

and i could, but wanted to use this on my main windows pc

[humble mirage]

Yes Debian + Docker is the way

[brazen herald]

Dedicated hardware is the way to go for things like this

Especially with Windows being your primary OS

[long terrace]

so do i just commit my old pc to linux to do this?

[humble mirage]

That's the best approach

[brazen herald]

One small low power dedicated machine to run whatever home services you like

[humble mirage]

Windows desktop makes for a really shitty server platform

[brazen herald]

Windows updates won't take out your automations leaving you in the dark

[long terrace]

put debian on usd, run debian on secondary comp and then do the docker on the Debian OS on the new pc

[humble mirage]

Yup

[copper steppe]

If your machine is dedicated, or semi-dedicated, native debian might not be the simplest choice.

maybe consider HAOS, or HAOS in a virtualization platform like proxmox

[brazen herald]

KD's been struggling with virtualisation for the last few days. Debian isn't bad to get to know, and it has the advantage of letting you run any service as a docker container

[long terrace]

installed debian on the usb, i may need to format the drive idk, now cant get it to boot up from the usb it just keeps booting windows

[brazen herald]

You'll need to enter the bios to select the boot disk, probably by tapping (repeatedly) ESC, F2, or F10 as soon as you've pressed the power on

[long terrace]

i moved the usb to the top of the boot priority

and the partition for the usb

but still windows is first

is there something i need to do to the usb drive to make it a boot drive

[brazen herald]

Assuming you flashed Debian onto it with something like Balena Etcher, that would do it

[long terrace]

i just downloaded it and put it on the usb lol

[brazen herald]

That won't do it

[long terrace]

and debian 11 will work

i did it and now its downloading debian

and then just google how to install docker and then follow the guide to install containers with docker?

[humble mirage]

https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/debian/

[long terrace]

i messed up and now i dont remember my root password

dope

i typed in what i believe i set it as lol

[brisk willow]

[manic bane]

Time to reinstall

[long terrace]

literally

trying to get it through recovery mode

rq

[manic bane]

If you only just installed just wipe and do it again

[low notch]

stop clicking around 😄

you're supposed to learn that stuff

[brisk willow]

Nah, just spray and pray

[high gyro]

Hi there, i think this is the right channel. I currently have home assistant installed on ubuntu in a VM Ware instance ... Is there a proper procedure for moving this to proxmox? I imagine just a backup then an install onto proxmox is the right move? My main concern / questions is on migrating my zigbee / zwave sticks between installs. Thanks for any tips / pointers!

[brazen herald]

Make sure your sticks are using the serial ids to point at them rather than the less precise ttyUSB0 or similar.

[high gyro]

Can i check this within the web GUI?

[brazen herald]

Yup

[high gyro]

Where can i verify it? Taking a look at the z-wave integration i didnt see anythign , or in the stick itself from there? Or am i missing something?

[brazen herald]

Well it depends which integration you're using

[high gyro]

Z-Wave JS and ZHA

[brazen herald]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#configuration---gui

I'm not sure for Z-Wave JS, but I'd imagine it's the same

[high gyro]

so i would presume thats the way I setup my ZHA atleast, i used that link to set it up when i installed the stick

[brazen herald]

Then it should be fine, if you click "configure" on it then you may be able to see/edit that

[high gyro]

ya not seeing anything there, i guess thats what confusing me ... dont see an option to set it (for either integration)

[brazen herald]

Then it's probably saved somewhere safe so should be fine

[high gyro]

Found it for Z-Wave JS integration. In "Addons -> Z-Wave JS -> Configuration Tab" .... I had set it "by-id"

[brazen herald]

Perfect!

[high gyro]

Yup , now just tryign to find a way to confirm ZHA is the same (99% sure it is) ... worst case its 2 devices and i can just reset everything if it fails .... Should ahve just gone Proxmox first doh

[brazen herald]

I'd actually say worst case you can just update those two config entries and be up and running in no time

[high gyro]

fair point lol

Loving this transition from SmartThings though. Much better platform now!

[brazen herald]

HA is great, and because it's open people can add to it to fill in the blanks for their needs too

[flat swift]

I am trying to convert from an OS installation to a container installation. The container eventually comes up but it seems to hang on specific integrations that never used to be a problem. I'm unclear how to troubleshoot this, anyone have ideas?

[copper steppe]

anything in the integration logs? are you using any addons? (my feel is they would be quite likely broken by the migration)

[brisk willow]

No add-ons with HA Container

But yes, definitely share logs

[flat swift]

I manually updated the config entries that needed to be updated. I do have a couple of config entries that are broken but those were broken before the migration and that's not where the startup paused

[low notch]

error where?

[flat swift]

?

right now it seems to hang on brother printer lol

[brisk willow]

oh brother

for real though, let's see some logs boi

[flat swift]

yeah I disabled the noisy integration to give you something easier to look at, currently waiting for startup again

[low notch]

dont make me invoke the bot message raman

[flat swift]

cowers

[brisk willow]

[flat swift]

does system health no longer exist? can't find it and the my link just takes me to about but no system health data anywhere

[low notch]

system health is a supervisor thing

[flat swift]

lol maybe I should just stick to my OS build ffs

[brittle sail]

ye

[flat swift]

https://pastecode.io/s/wiayiw15

[brittle sail]

life on hardmode just to do the same shit haos does is pretty silly

[flat swift]

the motivation was that I was getting annoyed by how long my blue took to restart. When I used containers before on a beefier machine it was much quicker, so figured I'd migrate back

[low notch]

looks like you need some tweaking for your network / docker traffic on the one hand and also some borked automation

[flat swift]

I suppose I should just start using dev containers for testing like a real developer instead of constantly restarting my prod instance

yeah the borked automation is because I disabled a config entry to clean up the logs

not sure how to go about troubleshooting the network issue. HA container is in host network mode

wonder if it's the VM then... I truly did go hardmode with all of this, installed proxmox for the first time, turnkey linux for my host, and moving my instance over to a container

[low notch]

the 500 at the end for https://homegraph.googleapis.com/v1/devices:requestSync likely is a dns failure

[flat swift]

oh shit

I think I know what's happening, good catch

I have a pihole container running on the same host. I may need to put it on macvlan

although my firewall is acting as the resolver which is on a separate system so that shouldn't be an issue 🤔

[low notch]

zigpy looks for 192.168.0.12, which is apparently also not accessible

so if 192.168.0.1 is your router - dns will likely also fail

[flat swift]

yeah that's because my zigbee coordinator is unplugged

in the process of moving and half of my crap is still in boxes somewhere

[low notch]

so you run proxmox, installed a turnkey lxc and on this you run docker ?

[flat swift]

proxmox, turnkey VM, running docker on that

[low notch]

lxc or vm? afaik turnkey makes lxcs

or, last I tried

[flat swift]

vm

hmm maybe I shouldn't have done that then?

[low notch]

debian is the go-to if in doubt

[flat swift]

I started with alpine then started fighting with it so moved to turnkey

guess I'll try again

[low notch]

ye, alpine is made for containers not vms

[flat swift]

it worked fine after some tweaks but used mdev instead of udev so I was fighting with pinning my USB devices to a static path and then I had an issue with dbus

anyway, I'm just going to keep my blue running for now and maybe try yet another migration when I have the energy for it

thanks for taking a look

[low notch]

you can do it

[flat swift]

honestly, this all got complicated because I tried to add storage to my NAS. Since then I feel like I have been endlessly yak shaving

sigh... anyway, night all

[low notch]

there's this ancient norwat saying:

Just don't run HAOS

[grand pivot]

Even a broken clock...

[wintry ether]

ok, I screwed up my installation about an hour ago by trying to fix the "Unsupported Installation" message with a reinstall of the supervisor. I forgot that I had installed it to a custom directory originally, now I realize that the supervised-installer deb file puts everything in /usr/share/hassio -- that's not where I installed my original system to. I removed everything, did a clean installation using the deb file and tried restoring from backup and now all my addons show as not running even though the dockers are up and running. Anyone know how to fix my setup?

[low notch]

you likely have 2 supervisors fighting now 🎉

[wintry ether]

nah, part of the "clean" process was to stop and remove all containers.

[low notch]

thats not how you remove the supervisor

[wintry ether]

oh?