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humble mirage
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Unless you're in YAML mode it doesn't exist

harsh nebula
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So i've selected a full backup to restore into HA. Any thoughts on how long that should take? rpi3b

manic bane
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Can tell you if it's done right then it works perfectly fine (have gone HAOS to docker).
If you want to add the ability or suggest it then the github is perfect for that

dusky flame
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Hi y'all. Need some help setting up duckdns on a container insall of ha. I'm Comming from ha os, and switched to docker, but I cant find any tutorials on how to set up remote acces it. am fairly new to this stuff

humble mirage
dusky flame
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I got that much, but I cant quite figure out how to configure that...

humble mirage
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Which "that"?

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Also, DuckDNS are having issues with their service ... again

dusky flame
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Well, I got it so far that my duckdns ulr showed a example site, but not homeassistant

humble mirage
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Ok, so the DuckDNS side is sorted, and by the sounds of things you set up the port forwarding?

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Did you configure the proxy to forward requests to HA?

dusky flame
dusky flame
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humble mirage
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Ok, so ... do you know what you're doing with NGINX/SWAG?

rugged osprey
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What is the difference between the Terminal add-on and connecting directly to the hardware (RPi4 in my case). I want to set the date, but have to pull the RPi4, connect a monitor and keyboard to it and then set it. How do I get the same level of privileges in Terminal add-on?

humble mirage
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The terminal is you SSHing to another container

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All add-ons are containers

rugged osprey
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So, is there any way to set the date on the RPi4 without connecting a monitor and keyboard?

viscid glacier
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Restart it with a network cable attached, it uses NTP servers on startup

rugged osprey
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For some reason, that doesnt happen. Everytime there is a power outage and the pi restarts, date is set to 3 months age.

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I have to manually set it back

rugged osprey
viscid glacier
charred peak
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can someone share the steps for docker install with persistent volumes?

brittle yew
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hi guys, I recently moved my HA instance to SSD drive from SD card and now cannot retrieve the supervisor logs any more (Failed to get supervisor logs, 502: Bad Gateway) any Ideas on where to start?

humble mirage
rugged osprey
brisk willow
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It doesn't. Pis don't have an RTC

gritty siren
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I'm having an issue where I'm trying to install the 10.1 core update, but at some point my Tinkerboard (the host) just restarts and never comes back up 100%. I can't seem to find any relevant information in the logs either. Previously my issue was due to a cert issue caused by Nabu, but this time around the HA core doesn't come up at all. Any recommendations?

tawdry hornet
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sooooo my pie 4 b is displaying 10 or so line of text before displaying nothing

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and cant connect by web

humble mirage
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When? At boot? Later?

tawdry hornet
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at boot

humble mirage
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Did it ever work, or is this a fresh install?

tawdry hornet
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fresh

humble mirage
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And you did flash the Pi4 image, not the Pi3 or Pi2 images?

tawdry hornet
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oh let me check

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yup did pie 4

viscid glacier
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64bit?
And its actually Raspberry Pi 4b? and not one of the 237928 clones that have flooded the market the past year(s)?

charred peak
tawdry hornet
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i got the pie from the real site and how do i tell if its 64bit?

viscid glacier
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Thats a choice you made

unknown.png
viscid glacier
tawdry hornet
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oh when i got the pie?

viscid glacier
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What image did you use? where did you find it?

crude inlet
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not the pi

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the image you grabbed

tawdry hornet
gritty siren
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Are there any 32 bit pi's nowadays?

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32**

crude inlet
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the pis can be flashed with either 32 or 64

tawdry hornet
viscid glacier
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Dont know noobs, so have no idea what you have

tawdry hornet
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so where do i get the image?

humble mirage
viscid glacier
tawdry hornet
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thanks

tawdry hornet
viscid glacier
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What lines and what is "nothing"?

gritty siren
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/\

tawdry hornet
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cant see the lines go to fast and i get a blank screen

viscid glacier
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How long did you leave it?

tawdry hornet
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5-10mins

viscid glacier
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wait longer

tawdry hornet
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ok

viscid glacier
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assuming it has a ethernet cable that is known to be working plugged in to a port that is known to be working

tawdry hornet
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yeah it dose

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thanks

viscid glacier
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And the SD card is new as well

tawdry hornet
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nah was running my pie on it before

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ill just wait so bye

viscid glacier
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if its not up in 30min, you should try a different card

tawdry hornet
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thanks again

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floral spoke
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Hi all ...im having issues with my home assistant cant control most things im getting "Your installation is unhealthy" mssg ...could anyone help? its running on rp-4

brazen herald
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You didn't specify how you installed HA 😉

floral spoke
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im kind of noob so im not sure how do you mean ....its installed on RETROFLAG NESPi 4 Case, Raspberry Pi 4 Case with SSD  i hope thats what your asking ?

brisk willow
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No, what installation method did you use? Go to Settings > System > Repairs > System Information (overflow menu in the upper right). What does it say next to installation type?

floral spoke
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all im seeing there is Core Metrics and Supervisor Metrics no installation type is seen 😦

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System informationYour installation is unhealthyLEARN MORE Core MetricsProcessor Usage0.4 % Memory Usage6.1 % Supervisor MetricsProcessor Usage0 % Memory Usage1.5 % COPY

grand pivot
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how did you install it?

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flashed an image?

floral spoke
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and it worked fine for 2 month or so untill a week ago 😦

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oops sorry i just recalled that it was install from Raspberry pie imager my bad

crude inlet
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@floral spoke what versions appear at Settings > About

floral spoke
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Home Assistant 2022.9.4Supervisor 2022.09.1Operating System 9.0Frontend 20220907.2 - latest

crude inlet
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@floral spoke go to Settings > System > Hardware and use the 3 dots in the upper right corner to reboot the host

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Lets see what happens with a fresh boot

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supervisor should be 2022.10.0, HA should be 2022.10.1

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you might have some connection issue if the updates aren't coming

floral spoke
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@crude inlet its say reconnecting but seems like its stuck

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ok its finished and connected now

crude inlet
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any notifications for updates?

floral spoke
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nop 😦

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how about if i use a backup from lets say a month ago could somthing like that might work?

crude inlet
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make a backup of current first. Then go ahead and try it

floral spoke
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ive made a backup of the current ....now when i look at loder backups the only ones i can see are core backups ...are this the ones i should use?

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loder=older

crude inlet
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those are the automatic backups made when you update core

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they will only restore the ha version

floral spoke
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So it’s not going to help?

remote veldt
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Any reason why Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi4 would take longer than the "20 minutes" to install... its been near 45 mins so far for me.

humble mirage
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Depends on the speed of the SD card and your Internet connection

gritty siren
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Most likely your SD card in my experience

remote veldt
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Gotcha. 1GB fiber, so that makes sense

gritty siren
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What brand SD card do you have? And, is it new?

floral spoke
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@crude inlet any idea b4 I’m erasing my ssd and installing a new fresh system?

gritty siren
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Make a full backup of what you got now and download it

crude inlet
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No idea sorry. Gotta head out

remote veldt
floral spoke
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@crude inlet thank you so much

remote veldt
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all good, install finished

gritty siren
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@floral spoke Full back-up, then reinstall, then restore from backup, then updates

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@remote veldt I would grab another at some point. Factory cards generally have the lowest write speed in existence

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But, you could have got a nice one depending on the pre-setup supplier

remote veldt
floral spoke
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@gritty siren I will try it thank you 🙏🏻

gritty siren
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With the right software I'm sure you could clone the SD card, but idk if I'd do that

rugged osprey
rugged osprey
viscid glacier
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Do not use a charger, use a proper power supply

gritty siren
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I'd recommend you grab a pi4 supply

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3.0A ☝️

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@rugged osprey What are you trying to do on CLI?

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Oh, time stuff.

rugged osprey
tranquil shard
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Home Assistant isn't found in Safari anymore. What do I need to do?
I have had plenty of error messages in Terminal and still been able to access HA in Safari, but the one about SSL certification seems new to me:
https://hastebin.com/oxoquciqux.sql

humble mirage
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You're missing the ffmpeg binary

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The SSL error isn't about your UI

cyan star
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Does restore from backup use dhcp or its old static IP? also how do i know when it is done?

humble mirage
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You'll know it's done because it'll restart

cyan star
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any way to see its progress?

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What is too long? 15min for a ssd?

sleek raven
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Hey guys, im trying to install HASS OS on my Pi4 8GB, but the installation is constantly failing. I get: [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

and:
[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2022.10.0: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.10.0&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi4-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")

and also:

'ResolutionFixup.run_autofix' blocked from execution, system is not healthy

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i've been trying to fix this since yesterday but nothing is working.
its connected by ethernet, set the router DNS to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 but no difference.

Tried both 32bit and 64bit

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same error everytime

tranquil shard
humble mirage
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Well... neither of those relate to your UI

tranquil shard
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localhost:8123 that is

humble mirage
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Firewall?

tranquil shard
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Never thought about firewalls since I bought an iMac years ago. 🤷‍♂️

sleek raven
tranquil shard
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Turns out my local ip-address changed. Possibly when I reset the router the other day. 😄

marsh totem
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Hello I just got my first raspberry pi today and am trying to set it up with HA. Im running into an issue where I cant access the device on first boot at the http://homeassistant.local:8123 or http://homeassistant:8123 and could use some help trouble shooting.

I used the imager to flash a Kingston SSD to be the boot drive and flashed a micro sd card to tell the pi to run off the SSD via USB. I followed the Paul Hibbert guide via youtube.

I have tried to locate the IP address for the pi using Fing but havent been successful using that method to access the 8123 site either.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is my first time doing anythign like this or even using a pi.

Thank you in advance

flat wyvern
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getting this error constantly in the logsWARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.websocket_api.http.connection] [140194553729264] Disconnected: Did not receive auth message within 10 seconds there's no indication of what is trying to use it

wise rivet
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Where do I follow these instructions, i don't think it's docker-compose, but where then?

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When using a reverse proxy, you will need to enable the use_x_forwarded_for and trusted_proxies options. Requests from reverse proxies will be blocked if these options are not set.
twilit siren
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hey guys, trying to install on bare metal x86-64 following https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64 and the first boot throws a lot of warnings and then loops a message about docker daemons not running. A reboot fixes that, but then it just sits at waiting for the cli and the web interface doesn't start

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system is: (Intel Haswell) Pentium anniversary, 8GB of ram, with 3xspinning rust drives.

crude inlet
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@wise rivet configuration.yaml
Look at the example in the docs

viscid minnow
wide wind
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I'm thinking of moving from my proxmox install, to run everything under docker. Do people recommend running plain os, let's say debían, and handle everything by myself, or use some sort of distro like OMV or similar to put stuff behind a nice webui? Don't know what other stuff is around to handle docker containers. I'm well versed with handling everything with docker compose, but looking for options

marsh totem
grand pivot
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configuration -> dotsvertical -> Check for updates

twilit siren
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I gave up with HAos, and went with Debian and Core... and it's working!

wise rivet
strange imp
near umbra
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Currently on a trial of HAC cloud.....when I login I am unable to connect to my host?

"Connection failed: No response from instance"

tawdry hornet
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well at homeassistant.local:8123 it says Preparing Home Assistant but no output to display

crude inlet
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@tawdry hornet clicked the blue dot?

tawdry hornet
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dosent matter just using ssh addon thanks anyway

tall marsh
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Did a bit more reading and I've decided it looks like wiping my current server and installing proxmox onto it makes the most sense. Then having a couple of VMs to keep the windows box I need. Would you recommend the linux vm for HA?

wooden smelt
dawn flame
tall marsh
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Thanks. I think I've decided that's the best thing to do for me. Going to be a pain setting up the vms. Just finished a backup of the windows drive. Now time to install proxmox. Appreciate it

flat wyvern
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Ok here's the solution to change the log file location for docker with homeassistant docker running run the following command docker exec homeassistant cat /etc/services.d/home-assistant/run copy that data into a new file onto your host edit it and add --log-file=/tmp/hass.log to the end of the exec python3 line then pass make sure you do chmod +x file_path then when running your docker make sure and pass in /file_path:/etc/services.d/home-assistant/run:ro annoyingly the fault log path doesnt change but i plan to put in a pr soon to fix that as well as get around having to do all that.

low notch
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Why though? Docker lets you map files/folders however you want them?

flat wyvern
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Because the log file is polluting the config folder it's a common problem with docker users I'd greatly prefer to have all logs be in the posix standard folder /var/log/homeassistant like most others that have posted about it.

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It causes an issue with a lot of people doing backups too I've been reading but have not encountered it myself yet

low notch
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volumes:
  /var/log/homeassistant/log.log:/config/homeassistant.log

isn't sufficient?

flat wyvern
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Nope as it still creates files in the /config folder

twin tendon
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hELLO everyone ! Do you know, if it's possible to install HA on a web server? VPS, Cloud, or similar?

brisk willow
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sure, but it kind of defeats the purpose

humble mirage
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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation

It'll run on anything Linux, so if that cloud platform is Linux, you could.

It'll be limited, many things won't work, and ... running a local automation platform in the cloud seems... not well thought out

strange imp
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im currently trying to get home assistant to work through qemu/kvm on linux, and im not able to ping my router from the home assistant console, any reason why?

humble mirage
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Did it get a DHCP lease from your DHCP server?

grand pivot
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and did you set up bridged networking?

strange imp
strange imp
humble mirage
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The HAOS console will show the IP address, if any

strange imp
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172.17.0.1

grand pivot
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i set it to use my docker network bridge

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that's not the bridge you need

strange imp
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ah

grand pivot
strange imp
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what bridge would i need?

grand pivot
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a bridge connected to your ethernet adapter

strange imp
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ah, alrighty, i can make that with networkmanager right?

grand pivot
strange imp
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ah, thank you

strange imp
grand pivot
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whatever your bridge is named

strange imp
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odd

elder viper
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Hi all. I am trying to find out why my VM of HA does not expand it's file system. From posts and HA docs, i understand that HA should expand the file system automatically but it remains at 93.5%. I've done all four things in the HA Clear up storage including the last resort of expanding the VM, but none of them affect the %. I have even written it up on the HA forums (https://community.home-assistant.io/t/file-system-not-auto-expanding-on-virtiabox/465672), but after two weeks, I still can't figure out it.

crude inlet
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@elder viper if you shut down and allocate more space to the VM it should account for it on the next boot

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If you're trying to use dynamic resizing on the fly I would say don't do that

elder viper
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I have rebooted, but I'll try a full shut down and restart. I'll check to make sure i'm not using dynamic resizing.

crude inlet
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Looking at your post now

elder viper
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It looks as if my VM disc is "Dynamically allocated...". Being a bit novice at Oracle VM, is there a way to change it?

elder viper
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Looks like I made the parent .vdi file 64gb, but didn't make the child .vdi any larger. Once I changed the child to 64gb, I launched HA and now i'm at 46.4%. And now I can finally finish updating. TY @crude inlet !

crude inlet
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@elder viper nice. You still might look into where that space is going. Do you store camera media?

elder viper
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I am interested where that other space is going. I don't believe I am storing any media inside my VM. My machine is windows so I can run blue iris which is saving files to the PC, but shouldn't be in my VM. But I did try using portainer per a you tube. But it wasn't working so I removed the add-in. I guess it's possible the space is still being used?

crude inlet
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You might try running ha su repair in the ssh addon terminal

elder viper
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Can do.

crude inlet
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That would prune unused images and containers.

elder viper
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Very cool.

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That may have cleared up a huge amount. Under "info" it now says Disk Used is 12.6GB of 62.3.

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Odd thing is I can't open the logs, or see the supervisor/system/core info screens. They just say things like "Error while loading page logs" and only give a link to "GO BACK". Does the DB need more time (even if the putty says complete)?

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In fact, under "Configuration" I can only open "Devices & Services", "Add-ons, Backups & Supervise" (but can only see add-ons), and "Settings". All of the other Configuration links say error loading?

ocean locust
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Hi, I’m trying to install HASS OS inside KVM (using virt-manager) on Kubuntu, how would I configure the bridge / networking?

elder viper
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Got my final issue fixed. Full VM shutdown and reboot, and now everything new and working.

lofty cliff
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Hi, I am new to HA, and have installed HA on a Generic x86-64 computer (Beelink BT 3 Pro with 4GB RAM). The installation at all took minumum 3 hours until the Onboarding was available. HA is also extremely slow. Add-Ons cannot be installed. In the logs I am gettting a lot of error, e.g.:

2022-10-09 06:46:41.854 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Timeout on /backups request
2022-10-09 06:46:41.858 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio] Failed to to call /backups -
2022-10-09 06:46:44.845 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Timeout on /host/info request
2022-10-09 06:46:44.849 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio] Failed to to call /host/info -
2022-10-09 06:46:44.852 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Timeout on /backups request
2022-10-09 06:46:44.856 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio] Failed to to call /backups -
2022-10-09 06:47:40.848 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Timeout on /core/info request
2022-10-09 06:47:40.854 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Timeout on /supervisor/info request
2022-10-09 06:47:40.858 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Timeout on /os/info request
2022-10-09 06:47:40.862 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Timeout on /info request
2022-10-09 06:47:40.871 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio] Error fetching hassio data: Error on Supervisor API:

kindred jewel
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Hi! I'm new to HA, I'm looking into purchasing a PC to run it as a server in my house, im trying with a virtual machine, using oracle VM virtualbox and followed all the instructions. Everything is working great and it runs on the virtual machine, when I try to do the first step (Preparing home assistant) it's been stuck for almost 40 minutes now, not sure what I have to do, if I go to the observer it shows that the supervisor is connected, supported and healthy, but my supervisor is completely stuck for the last 25 minutes, its not moving or doing anything

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22-10-08 23:43:19 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.NO_CURRENT_BACKUP - ContextType.SYSTEM / None
22-10-08 23:43:19 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.check] System checks complete
22-10-08 23:43:19 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] Starting system evaluation with state CoreState.RUNNING
22-10-08 23:43:22 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] System evaluation complete
22-10-08 23:43:22 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] Starting system autofix at state CoreState.RUNNING
22-10-08 23:43:22 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete

These are the last tasks it did, but then it just stopped

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Just rebooted everything, double check every single thing to see if it was working and It appear it was, I'm getting stuck at the exact same spot

acoustic vine
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I've only installed HA once, but the first time I did I ran into similiar issues with some pre-flashed HA version on the micro SD that I got with the Pi.

IiRC I just redownloaded HA and it worked like a charm. It might help you, it might not.

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humble mirage
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host_os: Home Assistant OS 5.12
``` that's .. very very old
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The unhealthy and unsupported words should be links to tell you the problem

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If you have a recent backup, starting fresh by restoring that may be the quickest option

ocean pasture
humble mirage
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Do you have console/SSH access?

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Can you get the supervisor logs?

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Without more information it's going to be hard to know whether this is a known problem, or not

ocean pasture
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SSH is blocked (I don't know why), I have to use the main PC CL interface with the ha> prompt
That does give me logs and "supervisor info" gets me the info block that I originally copied
I tried a "supervisor update" which reported that it ran successfully
...but the logs complained about an unsupported websocket command
The primary version listed is 2022.09.1 which looks "new" but as you have pointed out the core seems miles behind
The VM has been "off" for the time in between me playing with this- I wonder if a recent "auto" update afetr I restarted the VM has failed due to being so many versions behind

humble mirage
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The Supervisor auto-updates, but you have to manually update the OS (and Core)

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I'd not expect that it'd auto-update to a version of the Supervisor that's not supported by an OS version, but it's possible the devs never expected somebody to have such an old OS

supple trellis
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Hi, quick question about backups.
Let's say my hard drive dies and everything got wiped.
Could i restore everything (including deConz Settings, ESPHome, Node-RED..) with a full backup made with the home assistant backup function?

humble mirage
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Yes, assuming you were smart enough to not leave the backup on the computer

supple trellis
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Yes, i want to save the backups to another pc or the cloud (not sure yet), but i wanted to make sure, that it is enough if i use the backup from home assistant or if i have to backup the whole folder.

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Thank you for the answer 🙏🏼

high token
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The backup essentially backups the whole folder

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There are addons that can make a backup and upload it to Google Drive too for example

slender olive
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I am seeing this error when trying to update Core to 2022.10.2:

22-10-09 16:07:45 INFO (SyncWorker_7) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.10.1 to ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.10.2
22-10-09 16:07:45 INFO (SyncWorker_7) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.10.2.
22-10-09 16:08:26 ERROR (SyncWorker_7) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.10.2: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.10.2/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.10.2: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.10.2")
22-10-09 16:08:26 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Updating Home Assistant image failed```
brisk willow
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Looks brand new, so it's probably not ready yet for all builds

broken peak
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Hello how are you well I hope someone can help me to start "Home Assistant"

grand pivot
lean aurora
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can a Pi 1 B+ v1.2 run Home Assistant? from 2014

grand pivot
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No

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From that link:

Raspberry Pi 4 (Raspberry Pi 3 is ok too, if you have one laying around). Raspberry Pi are currently hard to come by, use RPilocator to find official distributors with stock.

supple gazelle
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After a couple false starts, the virtualbox installation method was drop dead easy as far as getting my feet wet. thanks whoever / everyone!

copper steppe
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HA OS bugging me for an upgrade, but clicked install (second time?) and it says no update. Caching? Need restart?

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r_c_l I still use virtualbox since my rpi SD died, and I never got around to moving back. It's so nice and fast! 🙂

copper steppe
sand sorrel
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hi. I have a supervised v.2022.08.07, was trying to update to 2022.10.02, but it took forever, over an hour. So I restarted and tried to do a manual backup, which also is taking forever. What next?

rough crane
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Hi, this only affects the v6 side of my home assistant os installation, would manually editing the network configuration to specify a token (https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/ip-token.8.html):

  1. be dangerous/put my install into a unhealthy state
  2. get wiped away by os updates
    (also if i wanted to make a issue/pr to get this added to the network configuration what repo should i use)
placid sage
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hello, I have version 0.117.2 of HA, can I upgrade to the latest version? if so, can someone explain to me how to do it? thank you

humble mirage
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Two years of breaking changes...

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You've got two choices here

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  1. Read the release notes of each version, note what breaking changes impact you, and apply the fixes as you upgrade from version to version - you may be able to skip a few releases at a time
  2. Throw caution to the wind, upgrade to the latest stable release, and then fix everything that breaks
brazen herald
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  1. Clean install and set up again, copying over automations and script, etc., manually
placid sage
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yes, I was guilty behind. i will delete everything and paste the codes manually.

unreal oxide
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I have a Denkovi USB module but I have problem with running Denkovi Command line tool. My problem is with installation of Java.... Can you please help me with Java installation on Home Automation on Raspberry Pi?

humble mirage
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You can't install Java on Home Assistant OS

unreal oxide
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So is there any chance to control Denkovi relay board via USB?

humble mirage
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If somebody writes an integration for it

quasi light
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Hi, would anyone here have an idea of why this fails for me? config $ ha available-updates ERRO[0000] Unexpected server response. Status code: 403 Unexpected server response. Status code: 403

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I do use ssl, if that may have anything to with this not being allowed...

quasi light
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Unknown then I guess. No clue in the log either. What should it normally return?

broken peak
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By installing Home Assistant on a virtual machine, what can I do with it

humble mirage
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What do you mean?

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It makes no real difference whether it's directly on hardware, or in a VM

broken peak
humble mirage
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If you have problems, that's what the channels are for @broken peak

broken peak
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ok thanks

placid sage
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Hello everyone, I am trying to install the latest HA version on an Android11 tablet using TERMUX. I manage to install all dependencies and even HA Core gets succesfully installed. However, when I run hass -v? I get an error Unable to set up dependencies of default_config. Setup failed for dependencies: hardware. I am struggling on this since 3 days. Can anyone help please?

humble mirage
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Not supported

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If you've got the skills and experience to run that effectively you'd know how to find out what the problem is

placid sage
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sorry I am new to this space. What do you mean by non supported?

humble mirage
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It's not a supported install method

placid sage
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you mean the installation on an android tablet?

humble mirage
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Correct

placid sage
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any where I could read more about this dependency : hardware. I honestly have no clue. I could install thanks to a lot of guides available on the HASS community

humble mirage
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Well, check the log file

serene scarabBOT
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If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

Command '~troubleshooting' was invoked by: Tinkerer
placid sage
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how can I get the log file?

humble mirage
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Keep in mind that come December you'll need Python 3.10 to be able to upgrade HA any further

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Did you bother to look at all at the bot message?

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There's a bunch of links you can click and read

placid sage
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I have python 3.10 installed

humble mirage
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Then you only have to worry about 3.11 next December

cursive wind
slender olive
cursive wind
sterile crag
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I cannot get to the supervisor panel, even after things like "supervisor repair", "supervisor reload", etc.. everything else seems available. logs are saying things like "[supervisor.api.middleware.security] Invalid token for access /app/entrypoint.js". Is that normal? This is an install from about a year ago that I'm trying to get back up and running. currently HA 2021.11.15

grand pivot
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currently HA 2021.11.15
🤔

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I suggest updating

sterile crag
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isnt that done from the supervisor, which I cannot get to? Ive tried various (command) update from the "ha >" prompt... must be missing one

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trying a "core check", but that just sits there at "Processing..." for about 5 minutes now. But maybe thats the one that needs an update.

grand pivot
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if you can use ha commands from ssh, then you can update anything

sterile crag
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I can get at the "ha >" prompt from console (this is a pi3), but cant remember ssh u/p

hard tide
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I'm trying to install HACS on home assistant CORE in UNRAID docker container.

The part I'm stuck on is "Change to the user that is running Home Assistant"
What exactly should I do in here?

humble mirage
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This is the channel for installing Home Assistant (and troubleshooting those installs)

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You're also reading the wrong part of the HACS docs

placid sage
sterile crag
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"core update --version 2022.10.2" says command completed successfully, but core info still indicates 2021.11.5, even after reboot. I might just reinstall again...

onyx widget
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I am trying to troubleshoot a Sonoff Dongle which I recently purchased but I cannot seem to get past even the basics of HASSIO. I have a dongle which works which I configured via the UI and manually in /config/zigbee2mqtt (the two configs a different but the file has all the up to date info). However if I replace the old dongle with the new to be tested one and update the yaml file(not through the GUI) and perform a restart via the zigbee2mqtt addon. The log file shows it is still referencing the old Sonoff. Does anyone have any ideas?

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To make matters more confusing, if I update the yaml file via the add-on web UI it works.

dark socket
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upgrade home assistant probleme

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homeassistant.exceptions.HomeAssistantError: Error updating Home Assistant Core 'HomeAssistantCore.update' blocked from execution, system is not healthy

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-_-'

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soo, what i can do to get over that

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Home Assistant 2022.10.1
Supervisor 2022.10.0
Interface: 20221006.0 - latest

dark socket
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why HA insists on not allow me to update or use adons when "system not healthy" for no reason!

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?

humble mirage
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It's "not healthy" for a reason... we just don't know why, but your system should tell you

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There should be a link that tells you the problem

dark socket
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if ha open I can check the link

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the probleme is HA dont even open =/

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this should never happens after an update

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on ha

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if works if system is healthy before update....why this happen after updating ha?

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this is a mess =/

humble mirage
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Are you using Home Assistant OS, or did you make the mistake of picking Supervised?

dark socket
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i'm using debian with supervised since 2020

humble mirage
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Ah well, there we go

dark socket
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im runing portainer

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but that should not block me

humble mirage
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It does

dark socket
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i did an full pgrade to debian now I can access to HA and observer

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but sill all adons are not working

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where i can check the messasges for unhealthy?

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I wil do unistall the portainer

humble mirage
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You need to uninstall any other Docker containers and any software not listed in the requirements

dark socket
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but i need to get a list of it

humble mirage
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A list of what?

dark socket
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of what HA is saying is not allow

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I think i only have portainer on it

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nothing more

humble mirage
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No additional software, outside of the Home Assistant ecosystem, is installed.

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I'm guessing you never actually read the requirements there, because that's pretty clear

dark socket
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I have no dicional software

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thats what im saying

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portainer already removed

humble mirage
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Right, but you did

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That's what caused it to break. If you've cleaned it up fully then try a host reboot and see if that helps.

dark socket
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cleaning apt, doing a su repair now, and then I will reboot

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let see if helps =/

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I need to move everything to unraid intead of proxmox

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thats an headatch

low notch
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you chose the hard way 🤷‍♂️

humble mirage
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Chose the hard way, ignored the requirements, is surprised when it breaks...

dark socket
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still

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Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Unsupported
Healthy: Unhealthy

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still unsuported unhealthy, without saying why

humble mirage
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You're on Debian Bullseye?

dark socket
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Distributor ID: Debian
Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Release: 11
Codename: bullseye

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i'm doing core rebuild

humble mirage
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Try a supervisor repair

dark socket
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ok

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connectivity

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busctl get-property org.freedesktop.NetworkManager /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager org.freedesktop.NetworkManager ConnectivityCheckAvailable

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that gave me false

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and I finally got every working

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-_-

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pain in ass

humble mirage
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Now switch to HAOS and you won't have that pain again

dark socket
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switch proxmox to unraid and supervisor to HAOS

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for sure

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thanks @humble mirage

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i really apreciate your help

hidden bison
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Hey erveryone ... I decided to step up the game a little and moved away from a VM trying to set up a supervised installation on ubuntu(not officially supprted, i know).
Besides the fact that the interface is now way more fluent and responds faster, which is great, i have that strange behavior now where a reboot of the whole system takes me back into the onboarding. to make things even more awkward, the non-default highlight color I set remains somehow. If i complete the onboarding and set up the first things one more time, everything looks great again. restarting only home assistant works fine and takes me to the login. just the reboots of the entire machine make me go way back to the onboarding. i tried to check logs and find any errors to find out what's wrong but didn't find anything so far.
Any buzzwords that i should dig into?

past ridge
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Hi ! recently i tried to update home assistant supervisor but it fails. 22-10-11 16:39:14 ERROR (SyncWorker_6) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.10.0: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.10.0/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.10.0: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.10.0")
22-10-11 16:39:14 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.supervisor] Update of Supervisor failed: Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.10.0: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.10.0/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.10.0: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.10.0")

crude inlet
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@past ridge started with a reboot of the whole system and not just HA?

past ridge
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Its on my rpi4, rebooted it many times. Nothing changed.

crude inlet
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Tried changing your DNS server?

neat spoke
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hmmm, I have the issue where I start up the VM and ESXi tell me no boot device. (I am using the vmdk image as the HD).

rugged urchin
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Is restoring a backup from a ha os vm to a compute module 4 install a bad thing? ”Nothing” seems to work. Addons doesn’t start, the conbee stick can’t be found, onboard bluetooth won’t initialize

humble mirage
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Should work fine, it's just the config that's backed up and restored

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Of course, not all add-ons may be available for the Pi

rugged urchin
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I’ll restore again and see

neat spoke
quasi light
crude inlet
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@quasi light where did you find that command?

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the command for updating would be ha core update --version=2022.10.3 for instance

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or just ha core update

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@rugged urchin reboot the system after a restore

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Settings > System > Hardware > 3 dots in the upper right corner

quasi light
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I was hoping this would indicate on a broader level what parts of the system had updates... But take it this was something for core only then?

crude inlet
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ah new to me

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"for currently pending updates" do you have any?

quasi light
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Yes, but the command fails...

crude inlet
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it does the same here. Going to downgrade, triggering available updates, and try some more

quasi light
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Thanks! 🙂

rugged urchin
# crude inlet Settings > System > Hardware > 3 dots in the upper right corner

Thanks but doesn’t work. I reverted to my vm until I feel sane to try again. I’m wondering if the 12V power supply can’t power the extention cable. I have issues without the cable but at least the ttyama0 shows up without the cable. However, regardless I cannot add it to homeassistant. No addons shows as started even though I can ssh into the cm4

crude inlet
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That only restarts HA

rugged urchin
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It doesn’t really matter what I try and restart, the addons or HA. Things are messed up after the restore

crude inlet
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That's why I am saying to reboot the system

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An HA restart only restarts HA

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That's one container

rugged urchin
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No, I restart the system

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To no change

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I’m going to try an earlier backup as soon as I come back home

sterile sable
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Yeah what happened I cant ever roll back to an earlier backup. :/

sharp patio
#

hello I installed home assistant on my raspberry 3 everything was working fine until this morning. impossible to connect and it displays this error message <blk_uptade_request: 1/0 error, dev mmcblk0, sector 1247752 op 0x0: ( read ) flag 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0

manic bane
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@lavish anvil is that a sd card failure? You seem to know the errors better than most lol

lavish anvil
#

that sounds like emmc

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and doesn't sound good

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Might be SD card too, I don't run SD cards on any of my systems KEK

sturdy iron
#

Hey guys! I'm changing my RetroPi into a HomeAssistant machine. I've tried everything I can think of to get HomeAssistant onto an SD card, but for some reason, it's not showing up on my network, or through homeassistant.local:8123. I've tried 3 different kinds of SD Cards, reflashed Raspberry Pi OS on (that works), but HA is not working at all. Any ideas?

low notch
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which pi is it? try pinging the ip, not the hostname, if pings are successful try to open the page

sturdy iron
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Pi 4 8gb

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That's the problem though, I'm not sure the ip address. It looks like I was able to get it when it had Raspberry OS on it, but now it's not showing up with HA on it. Pinging the IP with the Raspberry OS, did nothing, so I'm guessing it changed lol

placid sage
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Log on to your router and check for devices you can verify the ha up address to use from the router information

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Sorry up should read ip

sturdy iron
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That's where I'm trying to find the IP. I have a UDM pro and am looking at wired devices.

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It's almost like there's something wrong with the flash that doesn't let HA fully run or something

crude inlet
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can you connect a keyboard and monitor to it?

sturdy iron
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Putting it on a monitor shows a black screen, then it flashes a lighter black for a quick second, then repeats

copper steppe
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Sounds like your rp is broken. You should get Linux boot screen

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How are you writing the sd?

sturdy iron
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Yes. It loads Raspian, or Raspberry PI os just fine

copper steppe
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Did you put 64 bit kernel on 32 bit hw? Are you sure sd is not upside down or not fully inserted?

sturdy iron
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64 Bit

#

SD is properly inserted

copper steppe
#

It boots raspbian, on the same sd card, but doesn't load HA OS?

sturdy iron
#

Correct

copper steppe
#

Seems like it's not even starting the kernel, which implies a MBR/boot problem. Not even started loadlin/grub/whatever it uses

sturdy iron
#

Any idea how to remedy that?

copper steppe
#

use balena etcher to write it?

sturdy iron
#

I used Etcher and Raspberry Pi Imager

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On different attempts

copper steppe
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I'm just looking for my sd card adapter so I can try doing it here.

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but my rpi has no screen, so it's a pain to diagnose 🙂

#

got it, will try and write haos

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mine is a rpi 3 though

sturdy iron
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Appreciate it

copper steppe
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creating a backup on my virtualbox HA, so I can restore it onto the RPI.

#

The SD card was literally running raspbian 5 minutes ago before I formatted it.

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it's validating the write now.

#

it's pretty normal/common for sd cards to get broken, btw. they just don't last.

sturdy iron
#

Yeah, super weird that it's happening to multiple cards though. 😩

copper steppe
#

shutdown my main, starting my rpi

#

Looks to be doing fine. I got the "preparing home assistant"

sturdy iron
#

Did you use Etcher?

#

Was in HAos 9.2?

copper steppe
#

yup balina etcher with haos_rpi3-64-9.2.img.xz

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maybe try the rpi3 version, just in case rpi4 image is broken?

#

are you doing from Url or downloaded file? I wget it first, in case my internet flakes out.

sturdy iron
#

From the URL

#

copy and pasted

#

Trying the rpi3, just for fun. lol

copper steppe
#

might as well 🙂

#

did you happen to set the usb_boot_mode=1 and have a usb drive of some sort plugged in?

#

Once mine boots, I better check it started off the sd, and not the usb drive, too 🙂

sturdy iron
#

Still giving it a second to boot

copper steppe
sturdy iron
#

DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

low notch
#

fix your local dns

copper steppe
#

means the haos has not registered that name (yet?)

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mstone: given his previous report, it's probably not booting at all

low notch
#

DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN only happens after boot im dumb

copper steppe
#

What is it doing when "Preparing Home Assistant (this can take up to 20 minutes)". That's forever...

sturdy iron
#

I don't ever even get that

low notch
#

does etcher extract xz?

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i only work with .img

#

sounds to me like you are flashing the .xz

copper steppe
low notch
#

just not locally, it is not downloaded yet

copper steppe
#

it's been 13 mins so far, and my internet is ~100mbit

#

is the rpi3/64 image there?

sturdy iron
#

No good on this one. Is there a different URL I can try?

copper steppe
#

"docker pull" on my other machine worked in a couple of minutes :/

low notch
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download it AND extract it

copper steppe
#

I've got to start my VM HA for the hourly stats run now

low notch
#

then use the flasher with the extracted file

sturdy iron
#

Trying that now

copper steppe
#

afk, feeding chickens, going inside.

sturdy iron
#

Well, I've tried the 32 bit, 64 bit, Pi4, Pi3, Extracted, and Zipped

low notch
#

the pi needs internet, power and a sd card with haos on it. thats all, you almost cant f this up

sturdy iron
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I know right? Installing Raspberry OS was easy. First try. No issues.

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Idk why this is so hard. Ethernet is working just fine too

low notch
#

thats the difference, raspberry os comes with anything you need

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haos does not, it comes with a skeleton and needs to download parts upon first boot

#

it's not going to start up unless you give it internet access

sturdy iron
#

Other than plugging in an active Ethernet line, what else is there to do for that

low notch
#

plug in a monitor, see what its doing

sturdy iron
#

Black screen that blinks a lighter black for a second. Then repeats. Nothing really visible.

low notch
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how big is the file you select in balena etcher? to the byte

copper steppe
#

Sounds like boot loader problem

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Before the kernel even

low notch
#

hes still flashing the wrong image I believe

copper steppe
#

I usually download the file. Can probably check the sha too

low notch
sturdy iron
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I know it’s 64 bit. I tried flashing that like 10 times. Just tried the others out of boredom

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How long does it usually take for HA to boot the first time?

low notch
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That depends on your internet connection

copper steppe
#

Takes a minute or two to get the web interface, then maybe 20 to download. But if you’re not seeing boot messages it’s not starting

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Fwiw etcher desks with xz files fine. I just used it

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I can help in about 12-14 hours tomorrow, but my folks are staying with me now, in my office, so no monitor

sturdy iron
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Yeah. I wasnt getting anything. I have gig up/down.

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Thanks. I’ll try again tomorrow

low notch
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Are you sure that you have a pi4? These are with usb c, just making sure you dont run the wrong image

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Some folks discover that they only have a rpi3 this way

copper steppe
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If you just need HA use a virtualbox today 🙂

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He tried rpi3 image for a joke too

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@sturdy iron which timezone are you in?

sturdy iron
#

MT

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Yeah. I tried rpi3 for kicks and giggles

rugged osprey
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The time on my RPi4 gets set with 2 hours lag. How do I fix this?

manic bane
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@sturdy iron can you take a photo of your pi and post it here? Use something like Imgur

sharp patio
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hello I installed home assistant on my raspberry 3 everything was working fine until this morning. impossible to connect and it displays this error message <blk_uptade_request: 1/0 error, dev mmcblk0, sector 1247752 op 0x0: ( read ) flag 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0

brisk willow
#

Looks like your SD card might be going bad

high token
#

Any clues on this?

22-10-12 16:38:53 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.os.manager] Home Assistant Operating System update failed with: signature verification failed: error:2E09A09E:CMS routines:CMS_SignerInfo_verify_content:verification failure
unborn narwhal
#

I can't start home assistant because the home assistant CLI is not responding

sturdy iron
#

I took photos with the case on, off, and the Pi off and on. Hopefully that helps give some insight

low notch
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signed data uses certificates and validating certificates needs current and correct time

crude inlet
#

@sturdy iron You should probably try without the case's other stuff in the way.

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No USB ports connected, Ethernet straight in to the pi

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Also there's no reason to try the pi3 image on a pi4. That will definitely result in a black screen and no boot

sturdy iron
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Never had any USB ports connected. Only Power, HDMI, and Ethernet

crude inlet
#

The case itself is extending them?

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That's what I refer to

sturdy iron
#

Hmm

#

Unplugging the ethernet extension and plugging directly into the pi

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I forgot the NesPi case has some of that stuff

#

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE

#

Disconnecting all the extensions (and extracting the file before flashing) fixed it

muted wyvern
#

I have been using HA for a year now. Ive made a lot of mistakes but re-configured many times. Yesterday, there was a supervisor update while I was at work and I performed the update. All hell has broke loose since then. I can no longer create a VM in Virtualbox on my Windows computer that will load up. There are so many errors. I have downloaded new software, virtualbox software, everything so that I can load one of my backups. I can get nothing to work.

west igloo
#

Hi all, I need to add nomodeset to the grub, but I can't find grub.cfg anywhere, anyone know how to modify it?

humble mirage
#

For Home Assistant OS?

west igloo
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yes, on a "generic" machine

humble mirage
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There's no grub, you can't

#

What are you trying to do?

west igloo
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Hmm, that's odd. When the machine boots up I get a grub screen where I can select the partition. It hangs unless I add nomodeset when loading the kernel

low notch
#

hassio is alive?

west igloo
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This was a headless ubuntu server before, but I'm pretty sure I cleared everything

low notch
#

when did you last update homeassistant?

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or, what version are you running?

west igloo
#

It's the latest, forget the version but I did an update after installation (last night)

low notch
#

then it's supervised given you say ubuntu

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you are running out of supported territory by doing that

#

so tinkerers question is left: what are you trying to do?

west igloo
#

It was previously a ubuntu machine, now it's just the OS using the belenca method from a ubuntu live usb.

I was speculating why I would have a grub menu if there is no grub. What is the default haos bootloader?

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My goal is to have haos running on a dedicated machine. Currently I need the nomodeset boot option or it just hangs when booting. I have to add this by hand, but would like to make it permanent

low notch
#

i guess you are seeing grub from the live usb? how does installing haos include a ubuntu live usb?

west igloo
#

Usb is unplugged when booting after install. I used this guide:
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64

2. Copying a live operating system (e.g. Ubuntu) onto a USB device. Then, insert this USB device into your x86-64 hardware and start the Ubuntu.

* To use this method, follow the instructions of your Live distribution (e.g., this Ubuntu guide). Once you booted the live operating system, follow the steps described in the procedure below: Write the image to your boot media.
crude inlet
low notch
#

oof

west igloo
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aaah yes thank you. I did a search on the site and nothing comes up for "grub" (if anyone here works on the site, might want to change that) 🙂

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So that still leaves me with the question, where is it and how do I edit it? It's not in the typical location

crude inlet
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I'd try writing the image to your disk again. You shouldn't need to make any changes

quasi light
haughty oar
#

Got my unit in the mail yesterday by UPS. My network is non-trivial with four segmented parts. But, IoT stuff and TVs and junk goes on vlan555, so I plugged it into vlan555, and started a browser on a machine that has an interface on vlan555. And I'm told that it is preparing... might be 20 minutes... but that was three hours ago.

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ssh port is closed, is there another way to find out what's going on?

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(the founders vision is... visionary)

west igloo
crude inlet
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@haughty oar click the blue dot for logs

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and "unit"?

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Some random home assistant unit?

haughty oar
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My yellow homeassistant 🙂

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the pulsing blue dot? That doesn't seem to do anything.

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okay, I tried again with a local browser (with port forward, rather than via ssh -X), and now it works and shows me some logs.

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22-03-11 07:35:16 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.whoami] Whoami service failed with SSL verification: Cannot connect to host services.home-assistant.io:443 ssl:True [SSLCertVerificationError: (1, '[SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed: certificate is not yet valid (_ssl.c:1129)')]

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so the time on the unit is not correct.

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since it things it is 2022-03-11 (March 11?)

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[supervisor.host.control] Setting new host datetime: 2022-10-12T16:27:40+00:00

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fixed that, I guess.

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subsequent log info did not jump to new time.

haughty oar
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I power cycled it, hoping that the new date would take affect, but it did not, so it appears that the device is stuck in a loop, unable to update. Can I get a console via USB/TTL adapter?

slender olive
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I am trying to do the Home Assistant Operating System update (from 9.0 to 9.2), and I am getting this error:
22-10-12 13:25:19 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.os.manager] Home Assistant Operating System update failed with: signature verification failed: error:2E09A09E:CMS routines:CMS_SignerInfo_verify_content:verification failure
My system time is correct, as far as I can tell, both on the host machine and the VM.

safe harness
#

I don't have a yellow (there is a #yellow-archived) but does it have an RTC? Does that VLAN have access to pull from NTP?

fresh flume
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I’m using HAOS on a raspberry 4 with duckdns. From time to time the UI is unreachable with the page being stuck on loading.

copper steppe
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Morning all

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Good to see you got it fixed @sturdy iron

humble mirage
manic bane
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It's important to state what you're running HA on given you can run it on many many things

fresh flume
manic bane
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If you're not at home then that's not going to help with troubleshooting

lavish tulip
#

My M2. SSD drive appears unreachable from my PI after Home Assistant OS 9.2 upgrade. Based on the change it seems unlikely it's related. Is there a way to go back to OS 9.0 or do I have to start over and restore...

lavish tulip
west igloo
bleak plaza
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Hi, so can we run this entirely with docker ?

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also what is the difference between the supervisor and core?

copper steppe
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I assume Supervisor runs one or more containers; one of which is HA core

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is there any way to prevent a HA OS install "stealing" homeassistant.local from a pre-existing install? (I guess boot it, reconfigure it; but it'll break the existing in the meantime)

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@bleak plaza afaik HA OS is just a tiny OS that runs supervisor/docker

manic bane
# bleak plaza Hi, so can we run this entirely with docker ?

Yes.
If youre talking about the install methods, HAOS is a full operating system with add ons, container is self managed with no add ons (but easy to add them yourself), core is bare running on python, you need to manually control python dependencies there, and supervised is the hardest and requires you be an expert in docker & Linux networking & Linux management

copper steppe
#

HAOS is by far the easiest to manage. I recently switched from core-on-raspbian to haos; couldn't be happier.

copper steppe
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Is usb2 pen drive faster/slower more/less reliable than rpi3 SD card?

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Tired of failing sd cards. And so far failing to boot from a USB harddisk :/

brisk willow
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it's never too soon to switch platforms entirely sunglossus

copper steppe
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To...?

brisk willow
#

anything other than a pi

copper steppe
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Haha right now it's running lovely on a virtualbox on my workstation, but that's 100+ W

brisk willow
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O I C

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100W constantly? that seems... high

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anyway, to answer your question, i'm pretty sure flash drives aren't much more reliable than SD cards

copper steppe
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it's a bit hard to tell, I don't have a monitoring plug on it, so counting the whole workshop

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I guess there's a router and a camera/nvr there too

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plus a few power tools plugged in probably using nothing much

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Need to power down the computer to add a monitoring plug 🙂

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what's your hate on rpi? just the crappy cpu?

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It feels via web about the same as running in a VM...

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And these yellow etc are just rpi's in fancy pants

brisk willow
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oh no hate--i just see a lot of people talk about failing SD cards

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i use a couple of pis around the house

copper steppe
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I've got a drawer full of old hard-drives I could use, but can't seem to get rpi3 booting from the drive, even after changing the bios bit.

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And no screen convenient, to see what's on console, without moving it all inside

brisk willow
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oof

flat swift
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if I do a complete backup on HA OS and restore on a second system, everything will be restored including addons, their settings, and their data, right?

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my blue is great but getting tired of the restart times

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time to upgrade

copper steppe
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@brisk willow yeah, seems to be about 100W. Just installed a smart-plug.

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Apple says 40W idle, 119W max, and it doesn't seem super active, but kasa plug showing 80-100

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Actually, I was looking at wrong line. Apple says 70-197

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27" 5K screen, 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5 2015

fresh flume
toxic cedar
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Question, I've setup Google Cloud Assistant w/ Nabu Casa. After adding it to my google home, I now have duplicates of everything. Do I need to remove all other connections in the google home app (assuming they've been duplicated by Nabu Casa)?

humble mirage
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Yes

fair nebula
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hello guys i have my HA in a VM on unraid today i have bought a Z-Wave Z-Stick 7 i have gone to pass it through my VM but i see 2 options Select or Optional ???

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Do i need to select both ?

deft mirage
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Thought I would throw this in here as well... I am unable to upgrade to any 2022.10 version because my box swears it has no internet connection. I saw in my searches that DNS is often mis-configured and caused the problem. However, my DNS is working properly, remote and local access via VPN on Home Assistant and via web locally and externally via port forward. Nslookup and ping working properly, changed to google DNS server for testing and no change. I have rebooted Home Assistant and the host multiple times as well. I have a thread going on the forums with screen shots and system info at https://community.home-assistant.io/t/cant-upgrade-above-2022-9-7-no-internet-connection-really/474369. Could really use some help with this one. This system has been running for years without fail and I can't see a failure now.

crude inlet
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@deft mirage rerun the supervised installation deb?

deft mirage
deft mirage
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I was able to update to Supervisor 2022.10.0.

crude inlet
deft mirage
crude inlet
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same message about no internet for the host?

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and is this after re-installing?

toxic cedar
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Can anyone assist me with HACS? I've sent the command to download from the repo, it says that it saved index.html, I then cleared my browser cache, I restarted HA, but it will not show up when I click Add Integration

crude inlet
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@toxic cedar wget -O - https://get.hacs.xyz | bash - you ran that in the ssh add-on terminal ?

toxic cedar
crude inlet
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you might try again

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all of that is the result you should get

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not a saved index.html

toxic cedar
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wget: can't open 'index.html':File Exists

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Permissions?

crude inlet
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what are you pasting

toxic cedar
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wget -o https://get.hacs.xyz | bash -

crude inlet
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wget -O - https://get.hacs.xyz | bash -

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try that instead

toxic cedar
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I think that worked. Got a much better response.

crude inlet
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ok and then restart ha again. maybe clear cache again but that should be fine

toxic cedar
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Yup, worked a charm. Thanks for the assist.

deft mirage
crude inlet
deft mirage
south oracle
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Hoping someone will have some idea how to bypass this problem. After I installed OS 9.2 the other day, when the HA VM boots up, it freezes at "Mounted HassOS data partition" and just sits there. To get past this, in VirtualBox, I go to Machine->Reset and system boots successfully. However, if I try to restart the VM naturally (send the shutdown signal) and then restart, I arrive at the stuck "Mounted HassOS data partition" line. Any ideas what is going on here or what info I could get in order to troubleshoot? Thanks!

crude inlet
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@south oracle what happens when you reboot from within HA at Settings > System > Hardware

deft mirage
south oracle
deft mirage
south oracle
crude sage
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this is my first time here, so I'm hoping I'll do it right. seems like my Home assistant setup got hosed after attempting to update a piece of it this morning. Can't remember if I upgraded the core or if I upgraded the supervisor, though. I had it running under the official virtualbox image and managed to mount the virtual disk from a separate linux VM to inspect/fix

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when the Docker container won't load, what's the best way to restore from one of the backups taken before the upgrade process started?

humble mirage
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Perform a fresh install, upload the backup

crude sage
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this is exactly the route I'm taking. HA is doing the initial config right now. I found what seems to be a backup under hassos/data/supervisor/backup

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some files are much smaller than others so I am guessing some backups might not contain everything. am I looking in the right spot for picking up a backup?

humble mirage
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No idea, hopefully somebody else will know.

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Leaving backups on the system you're backing up means you don't really have backups

crude sage
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hmm. that seems to be the case. I loaded the biggest file and the UI says 'partial'

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lol

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I guess I figured it the wrong way

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but I can still access the virtualbox disk and navigate its content

crude inlet
crude sage
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ok. and is there a method to do a full restore (e.g. start from a given backup and roll forward) ? or should I just pick the largest/most recent backup before the crash?

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@crude inlet (thanks)

crude inlet
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what docker container isn't running?

crude sage
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even recovery was crashing

crude inlet
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to restore it would need to be running

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is it in a state where you can start the vm?

crude sage
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so I created a new VM with the latest VDI found

crude inlet
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ok

crude sage
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(as if starting from scratch)

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and I'm attempting a restore right now

crude inlet
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So copy those backups to the new VM instance.

crude sage
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From the initial prompt when the web ui showed up, I chose "... or restore from a backup"

crude inlet
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Restoring from the onboarding? It can be better to set it up and then restore

crude sage
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ok. I'll try that approach if restoring the core fails

crude inlet
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But if you already have the process going then it's a matter of waiting to see

crude sage
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🙂 exactly my thought. But I like having a path forward in case things go south again

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under windows, is it also possible to directly run from Docker, or is it better to run under docker under a VM ? Asking for a friend 😉

humble mirage
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Docker on Windows isn't supported for HA

crude sage
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got it.

humble mirage
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Amongst other things, Docker on Windows lacks the required host networking mode

crude sage
#

that makes sense. So I'll keep running the good old Virtualbox then. The whole system speed has improved over the past few months (thanks to everyone who contributed) and my host is a i5-6500 with 32Gb of RAM (a couple of other VM's are running so no need to swap). There isn't much benefit of running docker directly on the host but I was wondering

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one thing that keeps bothering me is that every time the host reboots, my Sonoff zigbee ends up in some sort of invalid state that prevents the zigbee2mqtt service to properly launch. But I guess this is a different topic on a different channel

humble mirage
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If you could ditch Windows then you'd have more options

crude sage
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I might do that when I have a bit more bandwidth (I still need to fix some of my bugs in the squeezelite-esp32 project). For now, I just need to get that up and running. It's crazy how we grow dependent on HA over time

crude sage
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I have a shitload of errors regarding mariaDB, which is setup as my recorder

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but at least I was able to run from an old backup of 2022.9

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I'm going to restore the backup from this morning now and cross fingers

crude sage
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looks like my backup's core.config_entries has been truncated

copper steppe
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virtualbox works great for me

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Sebastian I would use HA OS, rather than running/managing your own OS

crude sage
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@copper steppe that's what I've been doing, so I'll keep doing it

stray gust
#

Home assistant with super user on Ubuntu vs Home Assistance Core. which one is faster?

frozen plinth
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Depends on what you are doing. HAOS is probably faster than Ubuntu for bluetooth. HA Core container might be faster than a virtualenv for bluetooth, as some speed ups can fail to install properly and fallback to slow mode.

manic bane
stray gust
manic bane
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And will lead to issues

humble mirage
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On Ubuntu the only sane choice is Container (aka Docker)

manic bane
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HAOS is faster and easier yes. But you have to dedicate a device or vm to it

humble mirage
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If you're foolish enough to run Supervised on Ubuntu then expect a broken install in pretty short order

manic bane
deft mirage
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@crude inlet Problem solved! I actually ran sudo apt --fix-broken install because the installer for homeassistant-supervised.deb flagged a missing dependency of systemd-journal-remote. After this I was able to update as normal.

stray gust
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Which os that supervisor is fully supported 🙏🏻

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Debian?

humble mirage
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Yes, and it's still a terrible choice

crude inlet
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@stray gust 👆 that's an example of what you'll run into with running supervised without HA OS

humble mirage
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There's no good reason to run Supervised. If you want add-ons, use HAOS. If you want to run other stuff, use Container.

brisk willow
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well, a good reason to run Supervised is if you're a masochist

severe sinew
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I'm trying to set up SSL on a HAOS install, but I've not found the correct piece of documentation. I added the LetsEncrypt Add-On and created a certificate, but I have no idea how to tell HAOS to use the cert or what port might already be SSL. Trying to use SSL on 8123 returns errors that are presumably because it's not running SSL there, but I'm not sure.

humble mirage
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Once you've configured the relevant ssl_ lines, run a config check, and restarted HA, then that port will be SSL

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The add-on used to document this, I don't know why it doesn't any more

brisk willow
#

also if you have SSL enabled in HA itself, you'll need to access using the LAN IP over HTTPS too

severe sinew
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I don't see an http integration... Is it possible this is different by 2022.10.3?

brisk willow
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no

humble mirage
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YAML, not UI

brisk willow
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check the link. it's not configurable in the UI

humble mirage
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Follow the link

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You need to define ssl_certificate and ssl_key

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Something like

http:
  server_port: 12345
  ssl_certificate: /ssl/fullchain.pem
  ssl_key: /ssl/privkey.pem
``` With the actual filenames the add-on creates
severe sinew
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OK, I installed the terminal & ssh add-on, but it seems to run in a container (can't access /boot), is that the right place to edit, or do I need to edit some other way?

humble mirage
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Yes, that's the right place

severe sinew
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Thank you

deft mirage
humble mirage
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Then... Container it is

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If you're running other software alongside Supervised you're already ignoring the requirements, and something will break

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Saying that you want to run Supervised and ignore the requirements by running other software just means you hate yourself

deft mirage
#

I may be replying to someone else's answer... really not good a following along in discord. But, my install is Debian only and then the Home Assistant supervised only on top of Debian. I do not run anything else on the box.

humble mirage
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Debian + Supervised if you're following the requirements (and keeping current with changes to them) is still not a good choice, but at least it's not already a disaster

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It'll just become one if you're not staying current

brisk willow
deft mirage
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Understood... I run update/upgrade monthly. I am not sure why the journal problem slipped in, that one does not make sense to me unless a requirement changed.

humble mirage
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The requirements change

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You need to keep current with them

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All the people recently who discovered that after an auto-update of the Supervisor that their systems were now unsupported and unhealthy and they couldn't upgrade anything until they fixed it all... those found out the hard way about this

deft mirage
#

I really do make that effort. Have been running this system for several years now. My goal is to keep the system in a healthy and supported state at all times. Is the above mentioned generic-x86-64 install supported? If so, that would be a better install method and I really do not mind continuing to run a tiny dedicated i3 or i5 system.

brisk willow
#

yes, it is

humble mirage
#

If it supports UEFI then yes, you can run HAOS directly

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That's much better than Supervised, though to be fair, pretty much anything is better than Supervised

deft mirage
#

I may pick up another ssd and try going that route, my small lenovo does support uefi and is 64 bit. If I understand correctly, this would get me back to a point where I was when I ran HA natively on a pi 3. I agree, that would be idea!

humble mirage
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Yes, back to an appliance like setup with no OS to manage

deft mirage
#

Supervised is a pain in the ass and I would not miss it at all. @humble mirage that would be idea!

brisk willow
#

someone please quote that in the docs for installing HA Supervised

severe sinew
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Is there a way to edit HAOS /boot files without taking the SD card out? Like maybe it's just unmounted vs my assumption the terminal add-on was running chrooted or in a container?

humble mirage
#

Why are you trying to edit the boot files?

severe sinew
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RPi GPIO and I'm remote.

humble mirage
#

Ah, support for direct GPIOs has been removed from HA - you're planning on using a custom component for it?

severe sinew
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Z-Wave module.

humble mirage
#

Urgh, those are ... not awesome

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AFAIK it should just work with HAOS

deft mirage
#

@humble mirage Thanks for the discussion and stuff to think about! This community is truly one of the best open source communities I interact with. Between supporting idiots like me with weird problems and great response time... could not ask for more.

brisk willow
#

wow

severe sinew
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RPi HAOS defaults reserve the serial port GPIO section for Bluetooth until you edit boot files.

brisk willow
deft mirage
#

@brisk willow All are included in my thanks... just replied to the last person on the list... Like I said, I am not very good at discord. To many comms systems, at work it is slack, teams, skype, zoom and outlook. Can't get great at all of them! 🙂

brisk willow
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Haha it's all good, I was just messing with you

deft mirage
#

But, I really did mean it... this community is the best! I have been running HA for many years now, on many platforms and I really do try not to ask stupid questions. My greatest fear is that my system will go down and my numerous on site/off site backups will fail and I will have to start over. I likely have 20000 lines of config and automation built over the years and it is just a continual fine tuning based on changes to HA and new feature adds. I really do love it. But, I am the only tech person in the house, if it dies the fam can fall back and run everything with plugins and switches.

brazen herald
#

Step 0: have a backup ✅
Step 1: Try to ask good questions ✅
Sounds like you're doing things right!

deft mirage
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I am paranoid about my backups... I store locally on HA for quick access, store via samba on a pi 4 in my home and via google drive. Likely all will not go bad at once! 🙂

crude sage
#

wondering if there's a way to restore a partial backup manually (I'm using virtual box image) when the VM won't start

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I tried going with configuring from scratch and applying the last known working backup, but I just ended up missing half of the system

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(add-ons, etc)

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so I was thinking taking the non functional image I have (I already copied the VM disk somewhere in case I break it more), mount it in another VM as secondary storage, then apply a previous backup on top

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maybe that's a question for the dev_os channel

humble mirage
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No (end user) support in the dev channels

crude sage
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funny that in this discord I'm a end user while being a dev on a different platform 😛

humble mirage
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Well, just use a dedicated hostname/port for it shrug

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No particular magic

brazen herald
#

Why can't you use a subdomain?

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Why not put each service on a subdomain?

humble mirage
#

Ultimately, HA doesn't support paths, it never will support paths, the only solution is a subdomain, or a separate port

junior vale
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not sure if there’s a better place for this:

I installed hass os on my raspberry pi, set a static ip via the UI, but now got a new router from my ISP. Now, I can’t seem to connect and I’m thinking it’s because of the static IP.

My old router used 192.168.86.x but the new one uses 192.168.4.x.

Is there a way to update my HAOS static IP settings by either either:

  • plugging my raspberry pi directly into my macbook via ethernet and SSHing in, or
  • plugging the SSD I boot HAOS off of into my macbook and modifying some files there?
humble mirage
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Can you connect a keyboard and monitor? You can update it that way

junior vale
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yeah I’m hoping to avoid getting a microhdmi cable but that does sound optimal lol

humble mirage
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If not, setting the Mac to also have an IP in the 192.168.86.0/24 range will be the easiest option

junior vale
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so I set the mac to have an IP in that range and plug it into my rpi via a patch cable?

humble mirage
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Yes

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Or... don't worry about the patch cable

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If they're on the same physical network it'll just work

junior vale
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oh, sweet

humble mirage
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This is why static DHCP leases is often better than static IPs

junior vale
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yeah for sure, next time i’ll do that

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hm, so the router my ISP gave me isn’t showing the raspberry pi as a connected device at all

should it be, even if the static IP is out of the DHCP range?

humble mirage
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Doubt it

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Set the IP on the Mac, ping the IP of the pi

junior vale
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trying to remember the IP of the pi 😅

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Ugh super weird, it doesn’t seem to be working

When I enable ipv6, I see my pi in the router dashboard and can ping6 it from my macbook, but when I try to access port 8123 on it, or nmap -6 it, it doesn’t work

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huh works on my iphone though

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sweet, got in and re-enabled dhcp for ipv4 — it was set to dhcp already for ipv6 which is what seems to have saved me

grizzled valve
#

hello, i have a network dilemma as well if anybody can help, i have to change my home network ip range (currently the default 192.168.0.0/24) due work VPN conflict, i have a bunch of IP based devices (yeelight, nuki, shelly) that get static IPs from my router so i guess i reassign those to the new range, but will HA lose connectivity to all of them ? they're all configured from the UI so i don't know if there's any YAML i can manually update

brazen herald
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I'm lazy, so I'd probably start by telling work that the router doesn't let me change that and make it there problem.
But when something moves to another IP address HA should handle that by asking you to fix it—there's a repairs section where these should show up. You'll likely be able to provide a new IP address. It may also use magic to find the new addresses

iron elbow
tribal vapor
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😐 🤔 Interesting question...

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I am looking to migrate my HA to a SSD. The SSD is a M.2. I do not have an adapter.

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Is it possible to install Home Assistant to the SSD through the Raspberry Pi if I change the boot order first?

low notch
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I am confused, you do not have a adapter but want to run a ssd on pi?

tribal vapor
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Hmmm.... 🤔

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I have a Argon case.

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I didn't consider that.

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The M.2 drive is in the bottom of the case.

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Well, the connection for it is.

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I guess that can be considered a USB to SATA connection for it.

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Assuming I can connect that into a PC to install Home Assistant with Pi Imager.

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I was wondering if there was a way to use PiOS or something to install HA onto the M.2 without having to connect to PC.

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But I suppose I can use the M.2 adapter within my Argon case and plug that into a PC to do it as well. 🤔

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So, might have answered my own question here.

low notch
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Run rpi os and dd the haos.img onto the nvme?

sudden carbon
#

Hello, just got my yellow. I restored a backup from my docker install. The yellow is pinging but the UI has disappeared. Do I just wait it out?

wooden frost
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Hello, I am trying to install home assistant OS on a Dell laptop. It's to be run on an internal M.2 ssd. To install the OS I put the drive in a USB enclosure, installed OS onto the drive via belanaEtcher. Put the drive back in laptop. But it will not finish booting

tribal vapor
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But yeah, it'd be easier through the PC. 🤔

wooden frost
serene scarabBOT
copper steppe
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ankushg or you could have changed your router to /16 so both would work, connected to the old IP, and changed it

tribal vapor
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🏆 󠀀󠀀

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HA is setting up on the SSD now.

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😐 󠀀󠀀

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My Argon case comes with a fan that can be controlled via software. Is there a way to run that from within HA?

copper steppe
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If it can be scripted (via python ideally) it can be run from HA.

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@tribal vapor ^^

tribal vapor
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Man, I wish I knew about this Pi OS imager the first time I set up Home Assistant. 😐

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Now I'm in the anxiety mode of the process. 😐

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Waiting on the Restoring from full backup.

tribal vapor
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😐 One major hiccup (hiccough)... None of my addons will start. 😐

brazen herald
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You'll have to check the logs

tribal vapor
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Looks like the HA is having issues with connecting out. 😐

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Everything seems to connect to Home Assistant just fine.

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But Home Assistant isn't accessing information from the web.

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So, my Google Calendar isn't updating... my add-ons aren't working.

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Can't access /store with error code 500...

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So... I wonder if just restarting the whole raspberry pi might be in order. 😐

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Interestingly enough, I can access my Samba share from my computer and still access the files, as well as connect to Node Red through its port access.

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Yep... Restarted it through the Hardware area.

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Now my terminal add-on is starting.

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So, I may have hit the nail on the head there.

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On my plus side of all of this... my self solutions and self-ramblings are good problem solving tips for others. 😉

copper steppe
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👍

tribal vapor
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😐 󠀀󠀀 back to neutral

steady agate
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I'm trying to move my Data Disk to an external USB 3.0 SSD from a micro SD card on my Pi 4B. I started the process over an hour ago, and I can see activity indications on both the Pi and SSD, but HA is just unresponsive if I try to open it via the iOS app or via URL. I'm not sure if I should keep being patient, or if I need to intervene somehow

steady agate
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So, I rebooted the device, but dunno how to tell if it worked or not 😬 I see lots of activity lights on the SSD, but 🤷‍♂️

round raven
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hello guys! i'm new to home assistant.
what is the suggested installation method ? (HA OS on bare metal VS. HA OS virtualised VS. HA OS docker?)

humble mirage
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There is no HAOS Docker

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Beyond that, use HAOS (metal or VM) if you want add-ons, and Container if you're at home with Docker and prefer the control

copper steppe
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I'd say start with HAOS, even if you think you're an expert. You can always move later if you need to.

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If you don't need to use the machine for anything else, I'd suggest HAOS on metal.
(I happen to run it on a virtualbox, since the SD in my rpi died, and I haven't got around to moving back)

winged bramble
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Hi,
I'm running HA supervised on a Raspberry using docker.
I'm unable to update because I have other images installed on the same docker... As containerization purposes the segregation of services, there is no impact on having additional images/containers... However HA considers this a s a blocking factor for upgrades...

22-10-15 11:07:12 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'HomeAssistantCore.update' blocked from execution, system is not healthy```

Is there a parameter that can be configured so these are Warnings and not blocking errors for upgrading HA ?

__Update__:
Found that the ignore_conditions can be updated in jobs.json to circumvent the issue.
coarse burrow
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Hello, I have a Rpi3B with the standard hassos image on it. Everything is the latest version (OS: 9.2, Core: 2022.10.4, Supervisor: 2022.10.0). It is a completely new install (even though the problem I have was already there).
It bothered me for some time that the CPU usage was just always pegged at 60-70% on all cores. I thought about looking at the network and looked at it with the smart switch it is plugged into. It uses on average 1Mibit/s full time. Then I looked at the internet usage and that is completely uncorrelated (way lower when looking at it). Then I tried to confirm whether the cause was indeed the network usage and unplugged it, waited a few minutes and plugged it in again. The first dip to 1% in a year was those few minutes.
This CPU time is not consumed by Core (0-0.3%) or Supervisor (0-0.3%) (I can find this in Settings -> System -> Repair -> System Information). I have all integrations and addons disabled/stopped and even tried disabling some of the default_config stuff. The only thing I have is the sensor systemmonitor for checking whether it worked.
Is this normal behavior? If it is, how can I disable it? Is this maybe multicast traffic?

round raven
round raven
steady agate
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Is there an easy way to see if my attached SSD is being used as the data disk or not? I can see the device is detected in the host logs, but don't see any evidence of it in the HA UI

brisk willow
coarse burrow
placid sage
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Hello everyone. I have used HA for some years together with the old Z-wave integration. Have now set up Z-wave JS UI and is a bit confused how to MQTT integration works. I have also setup Mosquitto broker . Integration Z-wave devices in W-Wave JS works flawless. Bot nopw I am stuck how to get the MQTT devices available in Home Assistant. I have two sites, site A and Site B, each site is uisng ít's own Home Assistant. My goual it to cross replicate the mqtt servers between the two sites. Site A is using topic "SiteA" and Site B is using topic "SiteB". Is this a good start?

humble mirage
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Z-Wave JS doesn't use MQTT

placid sage
humble mirage
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Yes, and the integration in HA for it uses websockets, not MQTT

placid sage
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It provides a decouled gateway which can communicate using Z-Wave JS WebSockets (used by the Home Assistant Z-Wave JS integration) and MQTT (even simultaneously).

humble mirage
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Yes, and the integration in HA for it uses websockets, not MQTT (the bit you quoted even said that)

placid sage
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OK, that explains a lot 🙂

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Still the About information is not very easy to understand. As I am reading it, I interpret is as Z-Wave JS UI uses MQTT.
In Z-Wave JS UI settings there is a whole section for MQTT settings.

humble mirage
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You do know that that's software that's entirely external to HA?

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Yes, Z-Wave JS supports MQTT.

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HA doesn't use MQTT for integrating with it.

placid sage
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And as you say, HA uses web sockets to talk to Z-Wave JS

humble mirage
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No, you don't

digital pumice
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Hello, I installed ha image on vm, it's crashing, how can see logs? thanks

grave monolith
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my server start page isn't loading and cant start up. suggestions?

humble mirage
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How are you running Home Assistant?

grave monolith
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I have it through VM on a different computer. and it says its all running on that one.

humble mirage
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Then you have access to the console, which means you can get the logs (and more)

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The other thing you can do is try port 4357 instead of 8123

grave monolith
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nothing on either of those. I am pretty new at all this. how do I get to the console on the HA command line. I have it set at the OS so its the only thing that boots within the VM

humble mirage
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That should boot to a prompt

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From memory, at that point you're already in the ha command, so just supervisor info should work

grave monolith
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its telling me unclosed connection

digital pumice
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vm crashed, there isn't nothing in logs, there is something I can do?

humble mirage
grave monolith
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it keeps telling me server not found, but I have it up and running in the VM

zenith tiger
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Anyone have any idea why I cannot move "production_auth.json" from one ubuntu-based server to another ubuntu-based server. I'm running docker on both. But I cant move my production HA instance because a handful of files keep giving me an error about needing permission.

#

I've ssh'd into both machines and chmod 777 both folders

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Still getting permission errors

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is there somethign special about those files that wont let me move.

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TIL about chmod -R

grand pivot
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Wait until you learn about rm -rf!

cerulean temple
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Hi, i'm trying to install HA supervised on my Odroid M1. I installed Debian 11 and followed the official instructions for supervised installer on Linux systems. HA is running in docker, but in the logs i got some errors. Hope somebody here can tell me what is going on.

2022-10-15 17:00:32.271 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.ban] Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from supervisor (172.30.32.2). Requested URL: '/auth/token'. (HomeAssistantSupervisor/2022.10.0 aiohttp/3.8.3 Python/3.10)
2022-10-15 17:00:46.207 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.homeassistant_alerts] Error requesting homeassistant_alerts data: Cannot connect to host alerts.home-assistant.io:443 ssl:default [Try again]
2022-10-15 17:07:39.378 ERROR (MainThread) [metno] Access to https://aa015h6buqvih86i1.api.met.no/weatherapi/locationforecast/2.0/complete returned error 'ClientConnectorError'
2022-10-15 17:07:39.382 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.config_entries] Config entry 'Home' for met integration not ready yet: Update failed: ; Retrying in background
2022-10-15 17:07:49.397 ERROR (MainThread) [metno] Access to https://aa015h6buqvih86i1.api.met.no/weatherapi/locationforecast/2.0/complete returned error 'ClientConnectorError'
2022-10-15 17:07:50.387 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.config_entries] Error setting up entry Radio Browser for radio_browser

humble mirage
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Is the time correct?

cerulean temple
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yes it is.

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Strange thing is if i ping google.com inside the docker container it doesnt work, however outside the container it works. Is this normal behaviour? somehow i think my errors are connection related but im not sure

humble mirage
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DNS maybe?

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Can you ping 8.8.8.8?

cerulean temple
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yep, pinging 8.8.8.8 inside the container does work

humble mirage
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Then it's probably DNS

cerulean temple
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i think so too, thank you. now have to find out how to solve this 😛

humble mirage
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There's a DNS container, check that it's alive/running/whatever

cerulean temple
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its strange because natively docker containers inherit dns settings from the os

humble mirage
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Supervised is ... special

round raven
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Hello guys. I have a small hardware with the Atom CPU and 3GB Ram, what iso image i have to use to run O.S bare metal ?

humble mirage
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No ISO

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Depending on the Atom though it may be terribly underpowered

round raven
humble mirage
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No

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If your hardware doesn't support UEFI then there's no HAOS for you

round raven
digital pumice
humble mirage
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For debugging what?

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It won't help you debug the backup

digital pumice
humble scaffoldBOT
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When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
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Well, the backup won't crash on Debian, since you can't restore it there...

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It's also just a bunch of files

digital pumice
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ok thanks, will do a couple of attempts with this machine, a new one, and in case a fresh installation

icy atlas
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https://i.imgur.com/mFLNHy4.png my haos just decided to drop connection, nothing changed on my setup, its installed in proxmox and that part has connection working, tried changing dns in HA but no luck... wcyd

cerulean temple
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i disabled ipv4 in network settings in de HA UI and now im locked out 😅 i want to enable it again, but since i cannot reach the web interface anymore im looking to enable it through the HA CLI command line. i've found the command 'ha network' and this is what i probably need. anybody kowns the right cli command to enable ipv4 again?

cerulean temple
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nevermind it just disables ipv4 completely in the underlying OS. solved by opening nmtui

woven terrace
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No errors at all during installation, and I even restarted to make sure.

grand pivot
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You should use a container install instead

woven terrace
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Install docker and then home assistant? Seems like needless overhead when I'm not gonna use the pi for any other containers

grand pivot
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You're already struggling

woven terrace
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Unless: can you still do regular Linux things with home assistant OS?

grand pivot
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But yes, docker + an HA container

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There's no reason to use the core install you've tried

woven terrace
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All right

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But can I install other random stuff in home assistant OS? Cause then I'll just install that since that seems to be the most pushed for method

grand pivot
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No, you cannot

woven terrace
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Okay, thank you very much for your help, have a great evening

lofty blaze
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I forgot to set a valid timezone when I started the docker, how do I update the timezone?

hollow kestrel
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Anyone have any experience with Home Assistant on TrueNAS. I have it up and running but can not find how to restore a backup I have from my old Pi installation

lofty blaze
humble mirage
flat wyvern
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Does anyone know what selinux permissions are required for homeassistant docker to work with bluetooth? if i have setenforce 0 set on the host, then hass can find my switchbots, if i have setenforce 1 enabled it cant find them

grave monolith
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my home assistant.local.8123 loads on my phone, but says server not found on my computer, suggestions?

humble mirage
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Does it work with the LAN IP (and port)?

grave monolith
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one second please.

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it does not. it times out when I do it that way

humble mirage
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And it works from other devices?

grave monolith
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loaded homeassistant.local.8123 on my phone and came right up

humble mirage
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Then something on your computer is blocking it

flat wyvern
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is your pc setup to use the DNS server that serves homeassistant.local?

humble mirage
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Maybe security software, ad-blocker, etc

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.local is mDNS, not DNS

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Also, the IP doesn't work

grave monolith
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do I need to change my DNS server then?

humble mirage
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No

flat wyvern
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I'd recommend disabling the firewall on your local pc, and try connecting to the ip that will rule out or confirm firewall, but usually outbound ports don't get blocked by default

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also are you running hass os or docker?

grave monolith
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I will try that. and hoss os

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hass*

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no go with disabled firewall

flat wyvern
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what browser do you use?

grave monolith
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I was using Firefox

flat wyvern
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try loading edge that should rule out extension interference

grave monolith
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cant be reached on Edge or Chrome

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it does say DNS Probe finished_Nxdomain as the error message

flat wyvern
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Are you supplying http or https as the protocol? as browsers default to https and homeassistant by default runs on http

grave monolith
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http

flat wyvern
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shouldnt get a dns probe error if trying to connect to the ip directly, weird

humble mirage
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No add-blocker installed?

flat wyvern
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what happens if you open up command prompt (windows key + r and type in cmd) and run the command curl http://serverip:8123