Whether it works or not ... maybe
#hardware-archived
winged knoll
crystal marlin
I am trying to delete. That’s what I’m asking 🙂 I can’t see any delete button for devices anywhere.
gloomy spoke
you don't delete devices - they're created by integrations
and you can't disable them
crystal marlin
Hm ok. So I can’t do anything about my duplicated devices then? 🤨
gloomy spoke
if you want to delete the devices that an integration creates, you need to remove the integration
winged knoll
Some you can delete
But they'll be obvious, the Device page will have a clear DELETE button
gloomy spoke
I see. I don't think I have any of those
crystal marlin
if you want to delete the devices that an integration creates, you need to remove the integration
@gloomy spoke ok. Hm that would kill aaall my IKEA lights and I don’t want to set that up from scratch again 😅 Maybe I’ll just leave those duplicated/orphaned Devices there.
gloomy spoke
doesn't really bother me to have "extra" devices because they're really just a UI thing for scripts/automations, but a quick scan through my devices doesn't show any that can be deleted.
crystal marlin
Yeah but it’s a bit annoying when creating an automation to have two identical devices to choose from. One has entities attached and the other does not.
glossy prism
MQTT is the only integration i'm aware of that lets you delete Devices (which makes sense)
little sentinel
How are the sonoff plugs from aliexpress??
zealous dune
same as any other one as long as you buy actual sonoff plugs
little sentinel
Haha cheeky aliexpress
little sentinel
Does any one use smart door locks in uk 🇬🇧
simple ether
Hey guys, I plan to buy some smart switches for lights. Should I avoid wifi protocol for light switches? Or is it ok?Seeing some good prices on 3 way smart switches (4pks on amazon) just noticed they were wifi based. I am wondering If I should try and go for Zigbee or ZWave instead for the best experience. Experience in this came meaning, ease of adding or removing, reliability when turning on or off, and ease of creating automations for it
foggy pecan
"depends"
wifi can be good but they can also be prime examples of "you get what you pay for"
also having a route to the internet can also be problematic
simple ether
Ah was wondering about that, if it needed just a local network or truly need to communicate outside
foggy pecan
if its on your wifi network, its on your wifi network
simple ether
Ok taking a look at GE switches instead
foggy pecan
GE is hit or miss on the zwave side IIRC
simple ether
Oh, they were just at the top results. is there one the community recommends or maybe one you would recommend
foggy pecan
inovelli are generally well regarded. better support of standard features
simple ether
Awesome this is exactly what I needed, I can at least now focus on reading their manual and device dimensions to see if I can use them
foggy pecan
should be able to if you are in NA
#zwave-archived for more if you wish to dig deeper. #zigbee-archived if you want to explore that route as well
both of them care about your region though
sleek parrot
Guys I am looking for smarthome devices Ideas. Can you throw me some what are you using. Also where are you using PIRS for activationg lights?
zealous dune
here's a few thousand https://templates.blakadder.com/index.html and https://zigbee.blakadder.com/
sleek parrot
Understand that, but I would like to know the specific with automations you have with them. For example I love windows opener and the vaccum cleaner. Others I have are just lights, some temperature sensors.
zealous dune
water kettle heater with morning coffee routine, dryer notifications, randomised doorbell voice announcements
sleek parrot
the kettle. Which one are you using?
zealous dune
winged knoll
I'd turn the question around though, look at the problems not the toys
sleek parrot
@winged knoll can you be more specific please?
winged knoll
You're asking about devices to buy (toys)
You should be thinking about what do I want to achieve (problems)
sleek parrot
Oh
I understand you. I would like to put the PIRs on toilet bathroom and kitchen. Now I have them only in bedroom for nightlits and in hall. But I am kind of affraid when I will have them on the other rooms if they will be working according my assuptions.
zealous dune
at first probably not 😄
zealous dune
but after some tweaking you'll get there
winged knoll
You can also start by just having them do notifications so you can work out what they would have done
zealous dune
i have PIRs in bathrooms and halls and some other spots that require lighting only when there
winged knoll
I've found that reliable lighting like that requires: motion sensors, possibly door sensors, lots of patience
sleek parrot
the combination would be awesome
winged knoll
It took me a lot of iterations to get the garden lighting logic mostly right, and even then it's still possible for it to go wrong 🤷
sleek parrot
The problem I am living in a rented appartment and the doors from bathroom are crooked unable to close 😄 And I dont want to buy new ones. The door sensors are out unfortunatelly
wheat pendant
Guys - any one here with a DIY alarm system? I'm struggling to find any good external dome siren I can hook up to my Ring Alarm kit via HA.
Zigbee etc, anything!
The Ring Siren is just pathetic inside.
bright jacinthBOT
wheat pendant
Eeesh, that looks more complicated than I was hoping for!
wheat pendant
What would be a good starting point? With the goal being an external siren on my wall to go off when my Ring alarm goes off, via an automation in HA.
Any advise is much appreciated!
winged knoll
Outside of what you can find on AliExpress etc, I'm only aware of the Z-Wave Popp Solar Outdoor Siren 2
The sren sound is very feeble
sirent sounds like a microwave
So, you know, maybe not 😉
wheat pendant
Lol
Damn.
Was hoping to find something Zigbee based...
As I have a Conbee stick.
winged knoll
Well, I'd not touch that device anyway
But, AFAIK many/most sirens would work if connected to a relay to control their input...
fringe moon
and ESPhome like this with a relay board would probably be good to run a 12v siren
esp01 is tiny
wheat pendant
I'll have to take a look
!*
Thanks @fringe moon but it might be a bit out of my league!
fringe moon
then I'll be fair and say anything diy will be, that is probably as easy as it is gonna get
wheat pendant
Noted!
drifting grove
Not sure if it comes under devices, but if anyone has Traccar setup, whats the main (cheapest) Tracker people are using ?
fringe moon
I've used traccar in the past
with android devices
there are a lot of chinese devices, but the sim card bit is what makes it expensive for me, cheapest one you can get here is $15 per month I believe without being prepaid
drifting grove
Yeah I mean I can get a sim on PAYgo and just top up £5 and get 1000 SMS 500mb data, but im just looking for a cheap quick install one to try it with at the moment before I go purchase one i need to start moving cables to fit in
light ridge
Are there any battery operated wifi/zigbee/zwave light fixtures out there? Is this a terrible idea? I'm looking for something to stick in a closet that I can integrate with like a pico switch or something
light ridge
ah yep, I can probably just mash that into a dollar store closet light
drifting grove
What is the best way to integrate the flic 2 hub and buttons into my instance so that I can use the buttons with my automations.
bright jacinthBOT
strange aspen
Greetings, I'm trying to setup HA and I think I'm doing something stupid. I'm trying to add a mqtt and it does not seem to work.
- platform: mqtt
name: "P1mon"
state_topic: "p1mon/smartmeter/consumption_kw"
unit_of_measurement: 'kw'
I can see the mqtt in the broker on HA
*mqtt messages
any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this?
When I listen to the topic "p1mon/smartmeter/consumption_kw" in the MQTT integration, it receives the data just fine
I just can't get it to work as a sensor
strange aspen
I removed the units of measurement and now it works...
random hare
hello, after the last update 0.116.1 i have some issue with the yeelight bulb, i have two light that are not working anymore, in the log file i found this https://pastebin.com/w0vb8X9f any idea if i can do anything to fix it ?
i'm using the HA container and in the config file i only have the ip and the name
rigid onyx
Any favorite outdoor motion detectors that can aren't set off by incidental movement (e.g., leaves shaking, etc.)? I tried setting up my Wyze Sense Motion Sensor outdoors in one particular area where there are some leaves and whatnot, and got too many false positives...
runic drift
@rigid onyx utilizing an actual outdoor flood light pir sensor will probably be your best bet. they won't be perfect, insects will still set them off but they are better designed for the situation with adjustments
rigid onyx
@runic drift any recommendations? We have a couple of ring floodlights set up that came with the house, but I'm not a huge fan of ring's response time or the inability to change out bulbs.
And thank you!
runic drift
@rigid onyx you can buy just the motion sensor part of a traditional outdoor flood light. pair it with like a shelly or sonoff to get the trigger into HA.
gloomy sequoia
recommendations for an inexpensive contact sensor? I'm in US, and have a couple wyze sense ones (from the starter pack), but wondered if there were any better deals on some hidden gems
glossy prism
You're not gonna find much cheaper than wyze, but I did find this two pack of Zigbee contact sensors for $16.50 before tax: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YDF7967
gloomy sequoia
think they're any good? lol they also have a security starter pack for just $80
hmm, wouldn't need the hub though 🤔
glossy prism
I bought them, no issues
gloomy sequoia
ah, nice
glossy prism
I want that keypad really bad but I can't find it for sale anywhere by itself
gloomy sequoia
I'm thinking of getting that starter anyways even though I don't really need the hub lol
glossy prism
Probably not worth it unless you want the keypad too
gloomy sequoia
yeah the keypad and another motion sensor would be cool
it's either that or the wyze sense pack again, with another cam
I'm quite pleased with the wyze stuff I do have
eh, I'll just grab those sensors for now I guess lol
glossy prism
Yeah I like my wyze stuff. I'm using it for things that aren't super important
Why another cam with the pack?
gloomy sequoia
that's what comes with it
those sensors, do they just send an event on state change?
glossy prism
They sell the starter kit without a camera. Two contact sensors, motion sensor, bridge
gloomy sequoia
ohh?
glossy prism
Or a four pack of contact sensors
gloomy sequoia
crap, through wyze I guess? I wasn't seeing them in amzn
glossy prism
Yeah
Amazon doesn't have those packs for whatever reason
You can also buy single motion sensors for $6
gloomy sequoia
hell yeah, 4 contact sensors is perfect
glossy prism
Yeah I think shipping is like $5, but $25 for 4 contact sensors is still a good deal
If Amazon had that contact sensor kit it would almost certainly be listed at $25
rigid onyx
I'm really liking the Wyze contact sensors. Quick, responsive, and super low profile.
wraith portal
Hey guys, I'm moving away from smartthings to have local control if the internet were to go out. Is there a way I can pair my smartthing brand outlets with my z-wave/zigbee norteck stick or do I need to get non-samsung outlets?
winged knoll
That should be fine @wraith portal - see the #zigbee-archived channel's pinned messages for the choices of integration you've got
For the Z-Wave stuff, see #zwave-archived
red mulch
I have just added a z-wave radiator thermostat (Popp). I wonder how I control the actual temperature?
it's not really a "climate" entity
red mulch
okay ... restarting HA added the climate entities
raw trellis
Any recommendations on some good, cheap temperature / humidity sensors that work well with Home Assistant? I’m currently using F007TH sensors and intercepting with rtl-433 then rebroadcasting over MQTT. Works fine but they’re $15 each. Needs to be weatherproof for outdoor use and handle temperatures down to -10F
winged knoll
Xiaomi Zigbee ones are cheap, and some folks have used them outdoors, just sheltered
raw trellis
Where’s a good place to source those from in the US?
heavy oracle
I'm looking at the Sonoff light switch, I can see the TX series is the latest version, although the website allows you to select a T0, T1, T2 or T3. My first assumption is that the T3 is the new series in black, and the T2 is the new series in white, and the T1 is a remake of the old T1 but within the TX series still.
Then there is HA, and the integration that works with Sonoff without the need to reflash with Tasmota. The compatibility list for this integration is here: https://github.com/peterbuga/HASS-sonoff-ewelink#compatibility-list . It mentions it is compatible with the Sonoff TX 1C... but what is the "1C"? I'm trying to figure out if the T2 (white) is compatible.
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience using a specific TX series with HA?
heavy oracle
ok, so i dont have a neutral wire, so im giving up on the sonoff idea. I've seen alternatives that dont use a neutral wire, and the cheapest i've seen is a Tuya version. I can see there is good support for Tuya in HA, but is there anything I can do to ensure connectivity is local and not cloud/internet reliant?
gloomy sequoia
@glossy prism any idea what the protocol is on those little wyze sensors? I have the wyzesense integration, so they're running locally anyways... but if they're zigbee/zwave, I could just use my hub? 🤔
glossy prism
It's proprietary 915 MHz @gloomy sequoia
heavy oracle
ok, so i dont have a neutral wire, so im giving up on the sonoff idea. I've seen alternatives that dont use a neutral wire, and the cheapest i've seen is a Tuya version. I can see there is good support for Tuya in HA, but is there anything I can do to ensure connectivity is local and not cloud/internet reliant?
@heavy oracle Answering my own question here, but still posting it for the purpose of letting others know that were unware. It looks like a integration for Tuya does exist for local mode: https://github.com/rospogrigio/localtuya-homeassistant
scarlet aurora
cant get yeelight stripe to work in hassio.. at first i got it in, but when i added to homekit and restarted hassio it wont work again. restarted, resetted etc without sucess.. anyone?
running hassio in docker on ubuntu server.
gloomy sequoia
@heavy oracle I'm planning on playing with that integration today
the are actually a few, with a common parent fork (I think)
not sure which will go the best
it does seem that one is likely the most up to date though 👍👍
heavy oracle
@gloomy sequoia if you get a good outcome and cant contain your excitement, feel free to message me and let me know how you got on 😄
heavy oracle
I've seen the switches that look like they do the job but If I go to the manufacturers website or Amazon, they're both estimating around 21 business days for delivery. Wow!
oh i might have had a breakthrough, BangGood are say 10 business days 😄 and somehow it's cheaper.
gloomy sequoia
@heavy oracle i'm... not making much headway
got my local keys, but it seems that integration still needs some work on getting the DPs right for the bulbs, so that you can control them properly
heavy oracle
@gloomy sequoia im assuming you dont have a neutral wire either right?
gloomy sequoia
right lol
cerulean path
Is there any way to tell HA to not track the history of an entity? I don't care about it tracking the date/time https://i.imgur.com/GeyScNR.png
bright jacinthBOT
flint crystal
Anyone know how to get the temp of a smart life heater in as a sensor? I can add it, see the temp in a thermostat card, and set the thermostat and turn on and off manually but can’t seem to find a way to just pull the temp reading
gritty helm
hello, I have delete two Mqtt Device which was auto-doscovered from room-assistant. But I need these device. So how can I get these device back?
Thanks a lot for help
rigid onyx
I'm officially sick of my TP-Link Kasa plugs. Have tried seemingly everything and they seem to be unavailable at random times with no real reason (both within HA and the Kasa app). What else would you all recommend for smart plugs?
runic drift
crazy the amount of people who have issues with kasa
rigid onyx
It's interesting (to me) that the issue isn't device-specific. The fact that all three of my plugs will drop at the same time... like, why?! Maybe there was a drop on my router and they just don't reconnect well.. the only thing I can think of.
valid talon
Hey all, anybody got any advice on hooking up LIFX bulbs? I had to reset my wireless AP and not the bulbs are telling me to pound sound.
I've factory reset them, turned off my phones data. disabled the 5g so it's not trying to connect to that, tried different lights, etc.
these worked fine earlier today.
but now it's getting stuck on "Preparing device"
misty python
All me Kasa devices were unavailable then after a 0.116.2 upgrade they become available again. Very random.
rigid onyx
@misty python interesting, will try updating. Then again, they were also unavailable in the Kasa app.
@glossy prism I'm not quite there yet in terms of running Tasmota. Just dipping my toes beyond the HA basics.
and have 0 background with programming, unfortunately. Been a lot of learn-as-I-go
valid talon
IS there a better light out there? I liked LifX because of how bright it was.
undone tinsel
what type of smart switches do you guys recommend? kasa and gosund seems to be priced the best, i heard people love caseta (i don't LOVE the look but if features are that much better than the others then i'd consider) and i'm still open to others -- do any have easy motion sensors built in? i have a neutral wire as far as i can tell (there's 3 wires going to my light switches)
also i'm wondering what colored bulbs / lightstrips / other fixtures most people use or recommend. i have a few hue bulbs already but damn are they expensive. any other ones that are less expensive and still good, or should i continue with hue? i know you can easily get an LED controller for a light strip, but i'm not sure which controllers or lightstrips are the best
runic drift
@undone tinsel you are best using the search feature in discord, either in this channel or #diy-archived and even #the-water-cooler or through the forums https://community.home-assistant.io/. everyone has their own preference and when it comes to features that's all over the board too, not to mention some companies start out great then turn to crap so what is "recommended" at one point, may not be x amount of time down the road etc
undone tinsel
i'll look into the forums but as you said, what was answered then isn't necessarily the newest info. as long as there is local control though, i guess the fact that it can be controlled remotely is the main part that matters
dry tusk
does anyone know of a temperature sensor that will work with a sonoff bridge
runic drift
@undone tinsel there are many ways a device can be controlled locally as well, it really is a rabbit hole lol you just gotta determine for yourself what you want then narrow down the list to what pros/cons you can live with. Take the two you already mentioned, search for them, look for recent posts and comments.. see if either of them match what you are looking for etc
@dry tusk the rf bridge or zigbee?
dry tusk
@runic drift rf bridge
runic drift
@dry tusk unmodified? none that I know of, modified I think there are a couple.
dry tusk
unmodified, in using AlexxIT plugin
runic drift
You should google around, there might be one in existence but I have not read about it (yet)
dry tusk
for the Xiaomi Mijia i would need the hub for it to work
glossy prism
Or a zigbee stick
unborn furnace
not sure if this is the right are for this or not but... trying to get presence sensing out of the way... i have a phone with service and the ha app. roommate has a phone with no service and doesnt want to install anything... is there any way to set his phone up so ha knows when he is home and not home?
winged knoll
Bluetooth ✅
WiFi ✅
That's all I use for home/away, since GPS for home/away is a PoS
unborn furnace
hmmmm wifi could work since thats all he does when he is home is plays on his phone instead of pays bills....
winged knoll
Bluetooth is better if you can use it, but WiFi mostly works
unborn furnace
the only tracker that works for my phone is called defice_tracker.sm_g***u numbers left out for possible security reasons.
the rest of them dont show any home away status but it does
winged knoll
Those are the two I use, though you can replace monitor with the built in tracker
(monitor is way better IMO)
unborn furnace
last thing before i go to bed. wake on lan. i have it set up as a skill on alexa so i know it works with my computer. ive tried to get it to work through ha and nothing shows up in ha after in enter what the instructions say to in configurations.yaml and the file switch.yaml i have to create. any help is amazing.
rotund pumice
have you created a switch to then use it in the UI?
ah
what does your switch look like
raw gorge
Im looking for a wifi, battery-powered (preferably with solar charging), small (dome or something similar) camera with an external antenna port. Has anyone seen anything like that or maybe a DIY solution? Reolink Argus cams look perfect, except they dont have external camera port
unborn furnace
- platform: wake_on_lan
name: EuroWabbitsGamingPC
mac: "*************"
host: *******
raw gorge
basically i want to install a camera outside in my parcel box, which is made of metal. I have tried Argus camera but it doesnt get any signal in a metal box
unborn furnace
mac is mac address of pc i want to wake and host is ip of said ip
raw gorge
so with external port i could install the antenna on the outside
unborn furnace
@raw gorge can you drill a hole and pass an antenna through that hole?
rotund pumice
@unborn furnace the first part is to enable wake on lan in the configuration.yaml
Example configuration.yaml entry
wake_on_lan:
raw gorge
@unborn furnace i could, but Argus have a camera built into the dome
gentle fossil
try your broadcast adress as ip (x.x.x.255)
rotund pumice
then create a switch:
switch:
- platform: wake_on_lan
mac: MAC_ADDRESS
then you can add it to lovelace
raw gorge
otherwise its perfect, it is small, battery powered, has solar panel which i can put outside of the box
rotund pumice
@raw gorge ive been wanting something like that for my garage
(shared garage without power)
unborn furnace
the instructions i found said to put wake_on_lan: in configurations.yaml
and what i posted in a new file named switch.yaml
rotund pumice
@unborn furnace this is gold standard here: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/wake_on_lan/
unborn furnace
did i do it wrong
rotund pumice
that may be an old example (that you had)
unborn furnace
do i put it all in the configurations.yaml file?
raw gorge
@rotund pumice yeah, Arguses are great but their wifi range is weak on its own, not to mention closing it in a metal box
rotund pumice
@unborn furnace yes, if you have switches setup in your configuration.yaml then you put it in there but step 1. enable wake on lan in the configuration.yaml is required before it will work as a switch
@raw gorge i has the same issue with my mailbox zigbee notification attempt.. one big metal box = terrible range as expected :/
gentle fossil
you can always use the devtools -> wakeonlan service without a button to try the WOL #integrations-archived
raw gorge
Zwave is quite good at operating in metal boxes in my opinion. But no Zwave cameras 🙂
gentle fossil
zwave is low bandwidth, don't expect cameras for that
unborn furnace
im sorry. im still a little confused... do i put wake on lan: then below that put
switch:
- platform: wake on lan
mac:*****
with underscores obviously
rotund pumice
yeah 2.4ghz trash.. give me that z-wave. everything i look at is so expensive though heh
raw gorge
what are you looking for? opening sensor ?
rotund pumice
yeah i was trying a vibration sensor.. a bit flimsy but something
gentle fossil
yeah 2.4ghz trash.. give me that z-wave. everything i look at is so expensive though heh
@rotund pumice
It operates at 868.42 MHz in Europe, at 908.42 MHz in North America
rotund pumice
@unborn furnace you configuration file would look like:
wake_on_lan:
switch:
- platform: wake_on_lan
mac: MAC_ADDRESS
unborn furnace
thats what i thought. thank you
rotund pumice
but make sure 'switch:' isnt duplicated of course
unborn furnace
and then ill find it in ha somewhere or?
raw gorge
@rotund pumice @gentle fossil you can try hunting for a Monoprice / Vision Vibration sensor on ebay, recently i got one for 20 pounds
gentle fossil
I'm not looking for anything, just here to tell you guys about #hardware-archived and #integrations-archived
rotund pumice
then you can add it to ui-lovelace.yaml (or via the UI i guess)
gentle fossil
oh and make corrections about #zwave-archived
raw gorge
@rotund pumice and if you need an opening sensor then Aliexpress sells Neos for roughly 20 quid
gentle fossil
I got some xiaomi zigbee ones for 7$, have to try them first though I heard they don't really adhere to the standard
unborn furnace
would i need to restart ha for it to update the config file?
gentle fossil
yes
unborn furnace
at least its quick
raw gorge
worst case scenario i will try to drill through camera case and install antenna pigtail
unborn furnace
i still havent finished putting my rpi where i want it. its just plugged in and set on a shelf. running wifi atm. its going to be put somewhere safe and ethernet soon.
stuck cosmos
quick question for yall. Looking for a cheap temp/humidity sensor to be able to stick in rooms of the house, i know there are DIY solutions of course as i've got one already but looking for soemthing i can just tack onto hass and go. don't use zwave/zigbee at all as well
gentle fossil
netatmo is wifi, but not cheap
stuck cosmos
hmmm
I wish someone would make one thats got a touch screen or buttons to be able to make it a thermostat basically LOL, but im like sounds like too much for a DIY right now
might just go the xioami route and give into zigbee
unborn furnace
no idea where this should go but as im laying in bed i thought about it... wall mounted devices... any recommendations on what to get? im thinking a couple 7" kindle fires and a 10" fire for the main panel.
stuck cosmos
that was another thought i had ^^ little sensors hidden and then some kindle fires for controls for each room
i don't know about others but the kind fire 7" seem perfet, cheap and if your using it for home assistant not much else needed, my only concern has been how to power them as i'd want them basically inside each room where a lightswitch would be, but need the screen to go off and back on
stuck cosmos
i've seen em, i'm just not sold on having yet another wireless network running LOL
but seem to be best bang for the buck
fringe moon
ZigBee is great, mesh, so all devices are interconnected for better coverage
unborn furnace
powers easy. especially over an old light switch as im getting ride of them. going smart home. no need for manual switches...
fringe moon
And ZigBee battery life is 3+ years
Compared to 2 months with wifi
If you are lucky
stuck cosmos
yeah, where i work we use zigbee sensors to monitor cooler temperatures and i love the life of them and that they are mesh. idk maybe i'm just paranoid LOL. Kinda planning out going forward and i'd like to setup temp monitoring on a room by room basis as it makes sense since we don't have centeral heating of any sort, be nice to automate heating/cooling in each room.
need PIR's as well for a few rooms, i'm assuming xiaomi makes those as well?
fringe moon
Easy to automate it with zigbee sensors and whatever you use for heating
Just create a generic climate device
Yeah, same there 4 for 35 last I purchased
The lux sensor isn't very good, but the motion bit is perfect
stuck cosmos
yeah i've got two generic climate devices setup in hass right now. but they both use a single DHT22 so two rooms are dictated by that one thing LOL. then eaches cool function is actually just a smart plug attached to box fansi n windows haha. heating is 100% manual as its baseboard
stuck cosmos
but thats part of why i wanna do something else because i love my bedroom cold but my office freezes as a result this time of year haha. requires the hub correct?
fringe moon
No, do Zigbee2mqtt
More on topic for #zigbee-archived but use a zzh, slaesh or cc1352 as a coordinator
stuck cosmos
might run into issue with signal distance from the controller to the nearest zigbee device that would be the issue. our house was constructed eons ago and then renovated in silly manners, 1500sqft house and i've got two wifi routers as is to get decent signal LOL
but yeah i'll take a look
fringe moon
Just buy a few bulbs
Those will act as routers
But frankly my cc1352 was in my concrete garage in the basement, and still could reach my attic devices
stuck cosmos
barn beam construction throughout. then at one point rather than remove plaster/lathe they stuck 2x2 over that and then drywalled over it. some areas of te house still have signal issues due to it.
but yeah bulbs, could do that, i've got a few hue ones that i like but hate at the same time haha
wait aren't those zigbee too? LOL
runic drift
those are some thick walls lol
stuck cosmos
yes, yes they are thick, we knew they were thick ofcourse because look at the doorways and windows, went to install an outlet last year and found out then about the doubled up walls, its so ridiculous. could gain hundreds of sqft back just ripping out the doubled up part and ripping down the plaster LOL
gentle fossil
the hue one's are terrible at routing though - don't know about the new ones, those have BT too but the old ones definitely
stuck cosmos
might be soemthing i just replace anyways. or put in locations where its like eh
fringe moon
I have no issues with my older or newer hue ones, but I have only 4
The rest of the ... 60 or so bulbs are tradfri
gentle fossil
all my nodes always favorite the tradfris over the hues... thankfully
stuck cosmos
tradfri ones that good i'm guessing?
iv'e got just like 4 of the hue ones myself and would like to basically change everything over in the entire house, right now its just the few locations because living with people who are entirely against google. "whats wrong with a light switch"
gentle fossil
Hue bulbs -- Terrible Zigbee repeaters. These bulbs are ZLL native (a subset of the zigbee standard) but when joined to something other then the Hue hub they will fall back to ZHA mode. However, they seem to have a very small buffer space and will silently drop messages/packets on your network.
IKEA TRADFRI -- Good overall solution for bulbs. Smart plug seems to have a weak radio. One of the only manufactures to release firmware files publicly so OTA firmware updates are possible without their hub. zigp
https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/eym1h8/state_of_zigbee_in_2020_zha_z2m_deconz/
fringe moon
Hue is also possible to upgrade fw of with zigbee2mqtt now
Someone reverse engineered the fw packages
gentle fossil
same with zha
idle zephyr
I was wondering if anyone has any specific recomendations. I have looked at the zigbee device pins, but i could go wifi as well if I can't get a good zigbee choice or if the wifi one is best. I run a mix of wifi and zigbee devices currently. I'm looking for two colored smart bulbs to replace my front door outdoor lights. Something that work well outdoors, are standard size (A19 will be fine) and will work well to light my steps. good color will be nice as I plan to do special event based coloring. any thoughts or best choices?
fringe moon
I use IKEA tradfri g10 outdoors, they have been there for a year already, in +30 summer and -25 winter
idle zephyr
ah, good point, I should say I'm in Maine (US) so very cold in winter and can get hot and humid in summer
those are spot lights, i'm looking for front door just outdoor lights, but I will look at the ikea version of what i need since you had good success.
what does ikea use? Is it Zigbee? Easy to get into ZHA or a direct HA integration?
gentle fossil
what does ikea use? Is it Zigbee? Easy to get into ZHA or a direct HA integration?
@idle zephyr yes
fringe moon
I use them with zigbee2mqtt, but yes
And my outdoor lights are gu10
Pretty normal here
idle zephyr
https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Light-Sconce/s?k=Outdoor+Light+Sconce even for something like this? I'm more used to seeing those bulbs in a spotlight situation, which I do need 4 of for my backyard
thanks for the suggestions though, so many options it's paralyzing lol
glacial cove
Hi guys, anyone flashed a Sonoff Basic?
winged knoll
With what?
gaunt trellis
Hello, anyone has their Samsung TV added in HASS? I have a question about the TV's history entries. It is marked as ON every 10-20 minutes for few seconds, so I just wanted to check if that's normal.
winged knoll
That'd be a good question for #integrations-archived 😉
glacial cove
Sorry, Tasmota?
winged knoll
Lots of folks will have flashed it with Tasmota
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gaunt trellis
Ah, thanks, sorry for misplacing it.
winged knoll
Their Discord is probably the best place to find those folks
glacial cove
Thanks Tinkerer, First attempt so didnt know where to go! Thanks again
winged knoll
No worries, good luck
verbal plank
Hey, how can i deal with zigbee2qmtt error 'No network route' (205) ? Is reseting the device only way?
gloomy spoke
#zigbee-archived would be better
cerulean path
@glossy prism (sorry for the ping) but I wanted to say thank you for pointing me to the recorder documentation. I see there is a way to exclude domains/entities 🙂
glossy prism
Yeah it's definitely useful. You can do the same for the logbook and history too
Naturally if you exclude it from recorder it's excluded from both logbook and history
But it can be nice to still record history to the DB but not display it in the History panel or logbook
cerulean path
So if I exclude it from recorder, logbook/history will also disappear. I assume there is a documentation page for history that can hide entities there?
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winged knoll
(aka, yes)
glossy prism
.logbook too
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cerulean path
Thank you!
The old data is still there, is there any way to purge it?
If not it should drop off the page after a day and deleted later but
winged knoll
There's a lot of relevant information in the docs, it's worth reading it so you know how the integrations you're using work, and what the options are 😉
cerulean path
I did search and found the purge service, and how it automatically gets called and everything by the recorder service
However This will only delete data past the expire date, and not the entities that I have excluded, at least according to the documentation
cerulean path
Got it, no problem, it will expire in a few days then
winged knoll
(if there was, it'd be documented 😉 )
cerulean path
I am not used to working with projects this well documented tbh
winged knoll
I mean, you could go in and manipulate the database directly, but that'd be risky 😉
cerulean path
Eh, that doesnt sound worth it. If it was an external DB (which I know I could do) I could write a query to do it but I dont want to mess around with the internal DB file
modest bramble
If I have a random device, let's say a dumb rice cooker with 4 buttons for select mode, time, start, cancel, what's a simple way to get those buttons as switches in HA?
winged knoll
There's no simple way, but embedding an ESP is likely the only option (see #diy-archived )
plain lance
hey, I'm looking for decent cheap (<€50) CCTV cameras that work without an app -- is anyone really happy with theirs?
it looks like the trend is now to require a stupid app for configuring and controlling the camera -- tplink, yi, amcrest, nobody does web interfaces anymore
winged knoll
HikVision
fringe moon
Kkmoon has been great too
I don't touch the web interface though
I just open the rtsp stream
plain lance
I know about Hik, they're reasonable but they're not dirt cheap
iirc they're in the $100-$200 range for what I need (IR)
can you set up a brand new kkmoon without an app?
fringe moon
Any Chinese Poe camera will probably be plug and play
plain lance
a lot of them want you to install their shitty app
fringe moon
Really
I've bought 6 different ones, 4 kkmoon and 2 others I've forgotten the name of
Pure rtsp streams
$20-30 each
plain lance
yup, that's what I'm looking for
maybe I should be looking on aliexpress and not at brand name stuff like yi
random first camera on aliexpress:
Set, monitor and share all via Arenti App
second random camera:
✔ Step 1
Search “Imou” in Google Play or App Store to download and install Imou App.✔ Step 2
Run Imou App, and then register an account for first use.
gentle fossil
imagine all the people who don't know where their data is going
plain lance
I'm pretty sure these things slurp up all data they can get
I can easily drop a camera on a walled vlan, but I really don't want to deal with 10 different apps
could probably set up a separate phone with firewall and all, but it's too much hassle
plain lance
also they're going to break some rule, get dropped from the app store, and then it will be impossible to configure the camera
these things are <$50, pi+case+power+camera would be more
I would like to have a camera that boots from a SD, so I can send one to my family already configured
gentle fossil
pi cams work with pi1s - I'm sure you will still get >30$ but not by much, I'd be interested in @fringe moon 's cams too
plain lance
can't buy new pi1s anymore
runic drift
pi0w
plain lance
maybe a zero w, but then the case and power will cost more than the pi and camera
runic drift
adafruit had a whole package for under 50 not long ago
comes with that case that you can snap the camera in and is all one thing
winged knoll
Not too shabby
plain lance
that's not bad, it's got IR, right?
plain lance
btw, that would be one extra thing for the pi
runic drift
weren't you also posting ghost images that camera caught as well? may want your 20 back lol
fringe moon
@runic drift no that would be DOODS
gentle fossil
wait NW is in the same TZ as austria but its 11 for me
fringe moon
Thinking I have five toilets and three airplanes in my back yard
@gentle fossil haven't adjusted it for DST 🤏
gentle fossil
what is this cam though and where do I get it for <20$
runic drift
wired?
plain lance
I found a couple, they also advertise they have an app
fringe moon
I have never opened an app for these, the web gui is pretty terrible most buttons don't work
Just scanned with onvifer on Android, and added that info to motion
plain lance
I don't mind flashing the firmware if I have a good option, that's what I do with all esp8266 devices and tasmota
runic drift
well you flash it via sdcard
plain lance
question is, flash what on it though
gentle fossil
i still have a blink xt2 lying around but refuse to use it because shitty cloud and no custom firmware
plain lance
there you go
runic drift
gentle fossil
anywhooo - #cameras-archived I guess
plain lance
hah I just found a kkmoon camera on amazon that lists "setup using ios or android app"
oh, I didn't see #cameras-archived or I would have asked in there
runic drift
wyze you have 3 options, stock with just app acces, stock with rtsp and app access or that custom firmware which is local only, web access/rtsp
but if you need audio as well then I wouldn't flash it lol
plain lance
I just need to find a reasonably common manufacturer that has web config
like hik but cheaper 🤷♀️
runic drift
this day in age that is harder to hard to find
runic drift
how long ago did you pick it up tho?
plain lance
yeah, we're talking about £20 on the cheapies
runic drift
80 US isn't bad
winged knoll
That one is currently £70, but they do have cheaper ones now
gentle fossil
https://i.imgur.com/ZpcsJL1.jpg make doods recognize that!
winged knoll
£25 and up for bullet cams
plain lance
how long does the battery last?
gloomy spoke
looks like an airplane to me
runic drift
we're so past #cameras-archived it's not even funny lol
plain lance
too many channels in here imho
@winged knoll which model?
I can only find them around €150 and up
winged knoll
IPC-T140
plain lance
thanks
winged knoll
Discontinued by the looks of things, but still available on Amazon and others
If I was buying now I'd buy one with their ColorVue night vision capabilities
gentle fossil
uuuh 75 euro money
winged knoll
Depends on which lens you get how much it costs
gentle fossil
ah ok 2.8mm, 4.0mm is 90 euro moneys
plain lance
yeah, I see 90ish on it too
gentle fossil
I can only find them around €150 and up
@plain lance that happens to me also when I look for these things
plain lance
oh interesting, I looked up one of the colorvue models and it's only €80ish
gentle fossil
Yi Technology Kami Home is cheap cheap
plain lance
this is where I started this discussion from, what I really want is something cheap that I can configure without an app
hmm ubiquiti cameras are cheaper than I was expecting
then again, you can't even configure their access points without a big app
gentle fossil
while some of them will just need the app to connect to wifi, others really need internet all the time - I don't have a overview anymore but this list holds potential candidates for me
https://geizhals.at/?cat=camsec&sort=p&xf=2012_1920x1080~2014_Akkubetrieb~2014_IR-Beleuchtung~2015_WIFI
plain lance
reolink cameras need the app to setup afaik
a lot of them on that list
ring is amazon, can scratch them off the list
for the <€100 range, Hik DS-2CE72DFT-F(3.6mm) looks promising
for <€50 I only have kkmoon on the list so far
gentle fossil
It's not wifi, is it?
gentle fossil
https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/xt2-hand.png
those are perfect - but of course cloud only 🤢 🤮
gentle fossil
well you can't expect solid h264/rtsp from batteries but I still wonder why they can't provide mjpeg or sth else locally
plain lance
wish is shady, I just get stuff off aliexpress or banggood
gentle fossil
that is correct
plain lance
always a nice surprise, by the time they arrive I forgot what I even ordered
gentle fossil
doing that now too, first time alisomething
We couldn't process this payment for security reasons. Error code: CSC_7200026 hm
oh, my bank just decided to go in maintenance mode 🤷♂️
plain lance
I figured at that price, app or not, if I get any stream out of it I'm happy
if they work without an app, I'll get more
btw, random plug, I just got some Aqara/Opple zigbee switches, they're pretty nice
cursive pagoda
Hey everyone! I just installed and added devices today. I have a light group in Wyze with both brightness and color options. Is there a way to have that on the dashboard without having to long press each light? I want to be able to have one brightness and one color bar to control all of that group.
runic drift
@cursive pagoda add the light group to the dashboard
fast bane
Anyone have the ubiquiti doorbell g4?
I like the fact its LAN based
But curious on HASS support
fast bane
Seems no good hardwired relay based doorbells exist
unborn furnace
can two motion sensors(specifically samsung smartthings) be combined as one in software? aka so they activate the same tile in the dashboard?
runic drift
@unborn furnace they can be combined using a template sensor
unborn furnace
is that in ha?
runic drift
yes
unborn furnace
i found something about it on the website. ill have to get another motion sensor and test it out.
little sentinel
How are blink cameras for zigbee in UK for indoor cctv?
Tempted to get one for baby room or top of stairs
If they're cheap enough on 'prime day'
gentle fossil
few days ago there was talk about a zwave camera even, wonder if they support 4k
/s
jagged lotus
Hi All
I am using Mi Flora Sensor to measure my plants soil moisture , this sensor connect with the Raspberry Pi 4 using BLE , but the raspberry bluetooth range very limited so If any one have an Idea how to boost the range ? also I see some people talk about connecting ESP32 with the Pi 4 through mqtt then the mi flora sensor can talk with the esp32 if this the right approach can any one share the hardware installation for the ESP32 with the PI 4 ? or any other advice 🙂
I need to install the ESP32 on Arduino Uno board and connect it to the MQTT broker ?
jagged lotus
@jagged lotus
@fringe moon So I just can connect the ESP32 in a usb cable then integrate it using the ESPHome with HA and Mi Flora 🙂 , this article very Good
verbal plank
Hello 🙂 is it a correct place for SSD question? I want to upgrade from my sd card to this ssd: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07CGJNLBB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&th=1 enclosed in this: https://www.amazon.de/-/pl/dp/B07N48N5GR/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_pl_PL=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=Plugable+USB+C&qid=1602415061&sr=8-3 and connected directly via USB to my RPi4. Will this work?
fringe moon
That would be for your install method @verbal plank
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jagged lotus
Hello 🙂 is it a correct place for SSD question? I want to upgrade from my sd card to this ssd: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07CGJNLBB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&th=1 enclosed in this: https://www.amazon.de/-/pl/dp/B07N48N5GR/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_pl_PL=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=Plugable+USB+C&qid=1602415061&sr=8-3 and connected directly via USB to my RPi4. Will this work?
@verbal plank I dont think this will work if u wana install the HA os on it
verbal plank
@fringe moon @jagged lotus i'm currently running HA in the docker containers (mqtt, zigbee2mqtt also in the containers)
fringe moon
if you are running a regular Raspberry PI install
you should be fine
With raspberry pi OS
If you run HASSOS, no idea
ruby talon
@verbal plank do you really need 1tb for homeassistant?
gritty zinc
I'm considering picking up a Hive Active Heating thermostat and wonder what features I'd lose if I integrated via ZigBee instead of using their hub and the unofficial API. Without going too deep into their support site, the only thing I've spotted (and can live without) is the SMS commands. Is there anything else I should be aware of?
Really, I only care about the ability to turn it on/off or set target temperatures, none of which seems to be restricted to one method or the other.
glacial cove
Anyone know any good curtain or blind controllers than dont have you pants down?
fringe moon
DIY seems easy enough
glacial cove
Hmm. didnt think of that
glacial cove
Thanks man
meager shoal
So with prime day coming I want to buy a tablet and wallmount for displaying HA Dashboard. I would like to utilize fully kiosk or something similar. Looking to keep price low, suggestions?
winged knoll
#frontend-archived can likely tell you what does and doesn't work, I know there's issues with older versions of Android for example
meager shoal
ok let me ask in there
verbal plank
@verbal plank do you really need 1tb for homeassistant?
@ruby talon i'm thinking about collecting some more data and show it in grafana and also to be futureproof in case i want to have a home media center someday. But maye half the space for half the price will be enough...
fringe moon
1TB.... Will be a lot
Probably all the systems I run for all my HA stuff is less than.... 100G
Including operating systems on multiple platforms
And video recordings
Guessing ballpark of 50-60 GB
With 2 years of database and 1 year of influx
ruby talon
@verbal plank at least in the US, i was able to get a 128gb SSD for ~$20. i've been running homeassistant off it for a little over a month and i'm only at 5.6% disk utilization.
little sentinel
Wondering if its worth buying a Blinkt camera since they're quite cheap
winged knoll
#cameras-archived may know
little sentinel
Yeah i think blinkt is the lowest tier of cameras 😂 will keep it there
Hoping to see some Hue bulbs Black friday or Prime day
I wonder if Aliexpress or Banggood will have any Black Fridays 😮
fringe moon
They have a lot of different special days off
ruby talon
do the lutron caseta switches ever go on sale?
fringe moon
No idea about those, I mostly buy Xiaomi
wooden bridge
Hi all, I have a camera entity on my HA setup. It is a TTGo Camera setup with ESPhome. I want to be able to access the live stream of the camera from my magic mirror and display the current feed. Is there any way i can access the feed from a URL by calling the API. I'm rather new to API's so dont understand the full capabilities, Is this even possible? Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks
gentle fossil
you‘d need a token to use the api, then get the current stream url with this token and then open this url again with the token
wooden bridge
@gentle fossil thanks, can i use a long live token?
Can you explain how i would go about getting token and the current stream url?
gentle fossil
generate token in your user profile, use curl to get the url
rugged heron
Is it possible to exclude a device in a group from affecting a groups on/off status?
twilit relic
hey. do i have to use generic_thermostat platform to create a virtual air conditioner? can i just use the native climate platform instead?
damn. Platform error climate.climate - No module named 'homeassistant.components.climate.climate'
rugged heron
you could approximate that with a template switch
@gloomy spoke Can I just check if each entity is on with anorstatement between them all?
gloomy spoke
something like this:
{{ is_state('binary_sensor.updater_supervisor', 'on') or is_state('binary_sensor.updater_addons', 'on') or xxx }}
Actually, if I do it this way, will I still be able to control the light color, brightness, etc. or is this just a literal switch?
upper stream
Guys somehow I added 5 devices called my iphone
And idk which one is really my iphone
gloomy spoke
@upper stream you can just remove the extra integrations and re-onboard. #ios_and_mac-archived for more
upper stream
Ok thanks
high oar
Hi everyone! I've got some GE Dimmers, and a GE switch, the dimmers have a separate power meter that I can pull from for automations, the switch shows the power meter, but it's not a separate entity. Is there a way to edit my config and make that it's own entity?
I can send pictures if that helps someone
rugged heron
@rugged heron https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/light.template/
@gloomy spoke awesome, thanks! 🙂
unborn furnace
is there a way to get alexa guard to integrate with smartthing home monitor or watch the door/window sensors and other devices i have with smartthings?
wraith portal
Is there a way to delete a device rather than disable? I have some old ones from back when I used the smartthings integration heavily I would like to get off my device list
gloomy spoke
Apparently some devices like MQTT discovered devices can be deleted, but most are tied to an integration and can’t be without removing the integration
wraith portal
Do you know if there is a way to refresh the smartthing integration to delete the inactive devices?
gloomy spoke
I do not
wraith portal
no worries, I may just end up deleting and reinstalling. I only use smartthings for my thermostat since I have a sensi brand anyways
gaunt bear
Anyone have thoughts on the blink mini vs wyze for HA? Blink mini is on sale for the same price as the wyze
winged knoll
#cameras-archived though...
fringe moon
gaunt bear
🙏🏼😫🙏🏼
Is there a specific section I can ask questions about whether I should I use Wi-Fi for connections and the best way to do so?
glossy prism
For...what?
runic drift
The answer is always, If you have a choice then NO otherwise you make due with what you got.
glossy prism
Yeah, wired will always be better than wireless
fringe moon
wireless is cool for devices you don't care about
winged knoll
I wire everything I can
gaunt bear
@runic drift @glossy prism so I know from my research (unless I’m mistaken) that if you put too many things on Wi-Fi it will make it congested and stupid... however the Wyze camera uses WiFi... would y’all suggest I make a second Wi-Fi channel for my wyze cameras and other “must be Wi-Fi” items? Or can it just be put on a standard Wi-Fi channel as long as it’s strong (I’m using cute orbis)
winged knoll
Well, hopefully you've got 2.4 GHz and at least one 5 GHz channel 😉
gaunt bear
@fringe moon Tbh if I end up with a team with EMPs and earthquake generators trying to break into my place— Oceans 11 style— then I don’t think any amount of Home Assistant integrations will save me.
fringe moon
any idiot burglar has a signal scrambler
glossy prism
Sauce
fringe moon
heck, random people have been stopped with gps scramblers here
gaunt bear
Plus I can’t find a clean way to run 50 different Ethernet cables through my walls, like some sort of human sized rat.
glossy prism
"leafy_green"
fringe moon
@glossy prism let wifey set up this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wZFCINl440
glossy prism
How tf can that thing shout loud enough to jam 2.4
gaunt bear
so if I’m using an Orbi I don’t need to worry about a bunch of Wi-Fi cameras?
fringe moon
@glossy prism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEWwZNUafKo
winged knoll
You always have to care, but how much depends on your setup
gaunt bear
I wish we had some sort of magic Wi-Fi that was never congested and could transfer unlimited data instantaneously and was about 30 bucks for the router and was open source and 3D printable.
glossy prism
i'm on it
gaunt bear
maybe the HA team can work on it next
gaunt bear
Ok thanks. Obviously I’d like to be named on the dev team (vanity title)
winged knoll
Call it CAT8 or something
gaunt bear
Have you guys ever heard of “raspberry pies” maybe you can use that to do this.
ok guys can I ask one question. If you don’t mind.
fringe moon
There is a reason why any uptime sensitive stuff, or professional security stuff isn't wifi
and why most military installations don't even have wifi
gaunt bear
since I’m somehow lucking out and talking to cool cats in here
haha jk this community is so helpful
Haha
fringe moon
heck, most military installations don't even have Twisted pair
gaunt bear
but anyway since everyone is nice this morning
and not dealing with some sorta demons from their past
glossy prism
lmao wut
gaunt bear
(Other groups on discord are mean half the time)
(Everyone here is a jokey mcjokester today which is sick)
winged knoll
We're also mean half the time, you're just here in the nice time
fringe moon
I'm a fucking c... andlestick
gaunt bear
#italian
glossy prism
speak for yourself @winged knoll, i'm nice all the time, i just rant about people in private 😂
gaunt bear
Ok so I was currently using a RPi and I thought “wow I added an integration I’m pretty much elon musk on a coke binge now (minus the slave labor in emerald mines haha— it’s cool tho he loves memes)
So I thought — hey I’ll use a real computer like a hacker on NCIS or Criminal minds or {third show}
fringe moon
RPI is a kids toy afterall
runic drift
bring a signal jammer
@fringe moon really?
fringe moon
I've heard they do it quite frequently here for breakins at businesses
runic drift
why not just bring a rock and you can handle both scenarios
fringe moon
because many alarms are also wireless
gaunt bear
so now I’m using, honestly, a pretty overpowered used pc (i7-6700 3.4GHz / 32GB RAM / 256GB SSD + 2TB)... a bit more powerful than a RPi (it was an RPi4 so it’s essentially quantum)
fringe moon
that sounds like a random RGB-kid computer yes
runic drift
I've heard they do it quite frequently here for breakins at businesses
@fringe moon norway full of ethan hunts huh?
gaunt bear
anything cool I can do with it— or stuff that has opened up to me bc of it. “Oh make sure you code a hack onto the mainframe— 24 seconds until it resets” or whatever
fringe moon
eh we are quite technologically advanced compared to some third world countries @runic drift 😉
runic drift
more like quite technologically full of shit lol
glossy prism
@gaunt bear enjoy the faster reboots/reloading of YAML
/home assistant startups/etc.
glossy prism
yes
fringe moon
noice
gaunt bear
I was thinking of using the little cheap cammies + some AI thing like Blue Iris or Deepstack — is that even worthwhile?
I did the math and since I use 3x RPi at the moment, it seemed like a solid way to consolidate.
Atm I use one pi to make my two label printers wireless, one for Pihole, one for HA. Was thinking of doing windows for the label printers, and using that to access them, and then a VM or something for HA + PiHole
runic drift
use to be a pihole addon, dunno if that is still around or not
gaunt bear
I’ve seen a lot of vids talking about blue iris and whatnot. Does that actually do anything cool or is it extraneous
runic drift
high oar
Hi everyone! I've got some GE Dimmers, and a GE switch, the dimmers have a separate power meter that I can pull from for automations, the switch shows the power meter, but it's not a separate entity. Is there a way to edit my config and make that it's own entity?
Here are some pictures to explain:
https://imgur.com/a/ZeEMlZh
note that the non-dimmer still shows power consumption but I can't seem to call it for automations, which is what I'd like to do
winged knoll
Template sensor #integrations-archived is what you're after
Though, as of 0.116 (or maybe 0.115) you can use attributes in triggers
You want to be looking at 
-> States
pliant hornet
Hey, can someone recommend good smart thermostats in Europe (Denmark)?
I'm looking at Netatmo and Tado currently..
And please ping me if you do :)
high oar
@winged knoll thank you so much, I was able to pull that info from data.attributes.current_power_w in node red!
uneven wasp
I'm looking at getting my hunter fan automated in my office. The remote it uses is 434 mhz and I can't seem to find anything that controls that frequency. Has anyone else figured this out? A smart switch is not an option, it does not have the wiring. I really don't want to install anything in the base of the fan since it already has that rf capability in it.
Here is the fan if anyone needs it: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hunter-Channing-54-in-LED-Indoor-Easy-Install-Noble-Bronze-Ceiling-Fan-with-HunterExpress-Feature-Set-and-Remote-53366/304357284
I've looked at the sonoff rf bridge and the Broadlink and those only say up to 433 mhz.
I have a rbp zero in my office, so if I need to add an rf transmitter to it I can, if that is my only option.
tall drift
Have a look at bond. Im using it on 303mhz stuff and its working well. Local control and all that. Bit expensive for one fan
They also have a site where you can submit the fccid of your remote and check compatibility
@uneven wasp https://bondhome.io/supported-devices/
glossy prism
@uneven wasp i could be wrong but i think 433 MHz goes up to 434 MHz
winged knoll
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LPD433
The frequencies correspond with the ITU region 1 ISM band of 433.050 MHz to 434.790 MHz
uneven wasp
I think you're right, bond is a little spendy for 1 fan. I guess I can make the plunge of $8 to get that Sonoff RF. I got a little more confidence now. Thanks @tall drift @glossy prism @winged knoll for the advice
mild talon
is presence detection with nmap still a thing? All the documentation seems to be a little out of date taking about known_devices.yaml. But that was deprecated a while back?
upper stream
Is there a way to add Samsung SmartThings buttons without using zigbee?
rugged heron
Can you group devices? I'd like to be able to setup an automation that triggers when a device in a group's status changes
gloomy spoke
groups are created in YAML, and devices aren't intended to be specified in YAML. You can group entities
rugged heron
@gloomy spoke I have my entities grouped into devices already via MQTT discovery. I want to setup notifications when any of these devices go online or offline, but since these devices are created dynamically through MQTT, I can't exactly hardcode them in the config
gloomy spoke
right, I agree that you can't do what you want
rugged heron
Ah, is there another way to go about it then?
gloomy spoke
you might be able to create a device automation with triggers for each device in the UI
rugged heron
But that would involve adding them one-by-one still, right?
gloomy spoke
it shouldn't matter that they're dynamic - I believe that they'll still show up if they were discovered before
rugged heron
I'm still stuck :/ Is there another way I should be doing this?
gloomy spoke
I don't think you can do it with devices
especially since you don't want to enumerate them in an automation
rugged heron
If I can't do it with devices, is there another type of device/entity/integration/etc that I should use?
Can presence detectors do that?
gloomy spoke
you can group entities, but you have to enumerate the entities
rugged heron
Do you have a documentation link on how to enumerate the entities?
gloomy spoke
type them in a YAML file 🙂
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undone haven
@rugged heron , are the entities consistent in any way? Same domain? Same state?
rugged heron
They're all MQTT sensors so I can configure them however. They are all devices consisting of three entities: state, ip address and mac address
undone haven
This guy is the master at Jinja. Pretty sure you will find something here that you could make work.
https://github.com/skalavala/mysmarthome/tree/master/jinja_helpers
rugged heron
Thanks, I'll check out that resource and see what I can do
Those can use directly in the configuration? Never used jinja before...
gloomy spoke
but I think that's intended to generate the group definition that you then put in groups.yaml
gloomy spoke
I've done that before. it's not dynamic
rugged heron
:/
gloomy spoke
there are some nice Lovelace cards that can use globs and filter by nearly everything to control what's displayed, but none of that is available in the backend for stuff like this
rugged heron
I mean the presence detection is literally a bash script that runs on my router so it can really call whatever, I'm just not sure which integration can handle what I'm trying to do
I could handle it all internally with the bash script and no HA, but I'd really like it all in one place
gloomy spoke
you could probably do it in a python_script or via AppDaemon
they have access to all entities and can set values based on logic
an example:
entity_id = hass.states.entity_ids()
logger.info("Updating entities")
for e in entity_id:
if not e.startswith('group.'):
continue
service_data = {'entity_id': e}
hass.services.call('homeassistant',
'update_entity',
service_data)
whoa
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gloomy spoke
is that mentioned anywhere in the docs?
undone haven
Crap. Ok, well there is an example
gloomy spoke
that's pretty cool
undone haven
Well, I am using it. Look in services.
gloomy spoke
I see it
@rugged heron !!!
how one is supposed to learn about that is a mystery to me
undone haven
Hard to keep up.
gloomy spoke
there's a post from 2017, so it ain't new
undone haven
I know. I still haven’t played with any of the automation additions from .115
rugged heron
I just ran out on an errand, I can check that out in a bit, I’m excited 😊
Thank you for finding that
gloomy spoke
undone haven
With the jinja templates and group.set. EZPZ
gloomy spoke
yep, you nailed it
undone haven
I use a really ugly template to group all my zwave devices
foggy pecan
Lol how ugly?
gloomy spoke
it looks like it predates the github history. I must find a reason to use this now
NO SLEEP TONIGHT
undone haven
Maybe a docs PR for hacktoberfesf 😉
foggy pecan
Oh oh no
Please don't hate me but I have something for you
if (item.attributes.node_id) and not state_attr(item.entity_id, 'device_class') in ["battery", "etc", "continued"]
Can chop that way down
gloomy spoke
yep. that's actually pretty straightforward
I was expecting some obfuscated Jinja thing
foggy pecan
Yeah, not too bad, not in <list of shit> is the only immediate improvement I can see on mobile
foggy pecan
Lol I think I made @undone haven hate me
runic drift
I think you made him go back and redo alot of his stuff lol
foggy pecan
Haha
rugged heron
So now if I have a group of all my entities, how can I trigger an automation per an entity change in that group?
gaunt dew
hello, does anybody have an idea where could i buy google coral in Europe ?
fringe moon
Online
gaunt dew
ye sure, but i was unable to find a shop, those on google website is out of stock for a months
fringe moon
Just the usb accelerator or the dev board?
gaunt dew
the usb accelerator
gaunt dew
does not sell to czechia 😦
gaunt dew
yes i did, out of stock or not available for me
looks like i found it on https://store.gravitylink.com/ 20eur shipment tho 😮
fringe moon
Oooof
rugged heron
@gaunt dew Does Arrow ship to you? Looks like it’s in stock with “free fast shipping to UK+EU” for orders $50+ if you signup for ArrowPerks which is free too I guess
Never used it before but figured I let you know
gaunt dew
arrow does not look to me like trustworthy site 😄 dont know it personally, but i am not even able to click buy button 😄 something is wrong there
found it https://thepihut.com/products/coral-usb-accelerator it looks good to me
5libra shipping to czechia is good i guess
fringe moon
Arrow is a huge electronic vendor in Europe
hollow night
Anyone tried loratap devices
zealous dune
yes
hollow night
I bought 7 and they don't connect to network
I tried everything to connect do smart life app
zealous dune
i have zigbee loratap devices
hollow night
This is my device
I tried 2 different phones 2 different routers and 2 different devices nothing worked
Allways timeout on app
But in my router he connects
raw gorge
are there any cheap 12v solar controllers which offer wireless connectivity and integrate with HA?
fringe moon
no idea then, don't run those devices, anything I've bought of tuya hase been converted the second it was plugged into power
runic drift
which is sadly no longer possible. amazon has a crap ton of tuya based stuff on sale now and I don't think any of it can be converted. well cept maybe the martin jerry switches
last jackal
Hi all, I'm finally have a plugin /w usage sensor which allowing me to know whether my AC is ON/OFF. However how could I implemented to IR sensor so it will change status on when there are current usages and change it status back to off when there are no current? Anyway have idea or clue on how to make this happen?
last jackal
heemm generic_climate will show uncertain data
need something to make the usage sensor (for example 4000++ mA current) will surely shown that the AC is online... now how could I make that sensor into a binary_sensor
fringe moon
that should be possible with #templates-archived @last jackal
last jackal
actually I used threshold and it work yay.. thank @fringe moon for helping
undone haven
@foggy pecan , sorry, just fell asleep. Always appreciated improvements.
wheat pendant
Not sure if this is strictly the right place to ask, but I'm sure someone will know! Is there a limit on the SD card size for a RPI Zero W
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
Conveniently Google provides a snippet with the answer
wheat pendant
I had checked, but I have a working SD card, 256GB that I cannot get to work in an RPI Zero W (works in windows, on RPI3/4).
So was starting to question life itself.
Have tested in multiple RPI Zero Ws
winged knoll
May be an issue with that card 🤷
wheat pendant
If the RPI supports the SD, should any distro as well? Like OSMC, or Kodi etc.?
winged knoll
Yes
wheat pendant
Strange for it to work in other RPIs like 3 and 4s, but not the zero! Anyway, thanks @winged knoll for your help.
Appreciate i t!
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vapid hull
anyone have any thoughts about 0-10v dimmer controls that can be integrated with HA? I'm building a new garage and the light fixtures use a 0-10v dimmer. i don't REALLY need HA integrations in the garage, but, why not?
winged knoll
There's at least one #zwave-archived one, Fibaro I think, maybe Qubino
fringe moon
never seen that tbh
but fluorecent is mostly garages here
and those aren't dimmable usually
winged knoll
fringe moon
fancy
I'm printing a bracket for my garage switches so I can fit a shelly behind switches
winged knoll
There's at least one more that can dim low voltage DC, but I don't recall it
vapid hull
@fringe moon yeah 0-10v dimming is common on fixtures that have "ballasts", which is usually fluorescent, but now all those fluo type fixtures are becoming LED but the standard for dimming is the same
@winged knoll oh good find
fringe moon
yeah, my fixtures support both fluorecent and led
I replaced them three years ago
but led was too expensive, so bought fluor
$3 per pipe instead of $12
winged knoll
No strip lights here, though the garage would have benefited from them
Instead the garage has some high power LED units - about 120W equivalent 😄
winged knoll
Only two fixtures here, annoyingly placed towards the back of the garage
Hence getting enough light at the front from those results in "quite a lot" at the back
At some point I'll run some digital LED strips so I can do something "sane"
(because why not go with something fun)
fringe moon
just flush the roof of the garage with ws2812
winged knoll
🤣
fringe moon
you can host strip parties in the weekend
UNTZ UNTZ
PUT SOME DOLLARS DOWN THERE BOY
winged knoll
Good news dear, I've banished shadows from the garage.... and anything in front of the garage for a mile or so
vapid hull
i'm trying to light ~2000sqft. I need 12 110w fixtures 😕
fringe moon
On the other note ,we have a lot of shady women hanging around the garage door
vapid hull
but that gives me ~90-130fc everywhere
anyway, @winged knoll those qubinos look PERFECT. you rock
winged knoll
No worries
fringe moon
I should really replace my 433 temp sensors with some zigbee ones
winged knoll
The Xiaomi ones work fine for me, and they're cheap
fringe moon
need one for my freezer, and one for outdoor temperature, both with probes if possible
for battery life
wonder if I can solder a probe on the xiaomi sensors somehow
winged knoll
I'd be surprised if the Xiaomi ones wouldn't survive outdoors if they were sheltered
last jackal
The Xiaomi ones work fine for me, and they're cheap
@winged knoll agree.. just purchase another 3 unit @5usd...
zealous dune
must be BT
last jackal
must be BT
@zealous dune best one.. and very very cheap
that one is less then 4USD
gaunt quarry
Anyone know much about these Gosund mini plugs on amazon's sale?
last jackal
and BT yes....
@fringe moon yeah.. you want to put it in a freezer..
what is it for if I may ask?
fringe moon
for seeing the temperature 🤔
zealous dune
BT is definitely not the best one
fringe moon
and since I have 4 freezers and one fridge on the same power outlet I know if the circuit is tripped or not
if temperature starts rising rapidly
last jackal
BT is definitely not the best one
@zealous dune cheap and its work like a charm for HA hahahaha.. so its work for me also its look really good..
zealous dune
works for me != best one
last jackal
hehehe.. true...
fringe moon
zigbee >>>>> bt
last jackal
true too but it will cost $$$
fringe moon
the $7-8 a zigbee sensor costs
zealous dune
so does creating a bt gateway to be in range of the tiny BT antenna
fringe moon
probably same cost in the end 🤔
last jackal
😊
I use esp32 to do that.. not bad 1 unit can support 2-3 rooms
so quite satisfied
fringe moon
esp36 ? I thought 36bit computing died out in the 80s
zealous dune
where do you get esp36s?
fringe moon
🤣
zealous dune
so esp32 4$, wall wart 1$, dead outlet = priceless
zealous dune
not counting extra 2.4ghz fun with all the esp32's
last jackal
where do you get esp36s?
@zealous dune my bad hahahaha...
getting old..
well you get a real thermometer on the room though
btw did you guys used card-mod... need some help
@zealous dune miss tasmota.. since tuya being an ass and close tuya convert... arrrrgggghhh
last jackal
well tuya plug need to be crack open so sad..
did soldering for my xiaomi gateway.. yeah.. thats fun stuff..
gentle fossil
anybody got this connected to HA?
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B089P244V7/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1
believe it needs a bt gateway
.... or this?
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B089MWRBZ5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2TGJBDH2LB9IO&psc=1
fringe moon
should be doable maybe
gentle fossil
guess I'll go the eve route, the other seems not possible atm
hollow night
no idea then, don't run those devices, anything I've bought of tuya hase been converted the second it was plugged into power
@fringe moon that was my idea to but it don't work
There is the video I made
undone tinsel
if i want to add some led lightstrips around the house, any recommendations for the type of light strip, or are they basically all the same? also, is there any preferred controller? i was looking at either the shelly rgbw2 or zooz rgbw dimmer
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
And no, they're anything but all the same 😉
RGB vs RGBW vs RGB-CCT vs CCT; analogue vs digital; 30 LED/m vs 60/72/90/120/144...
undone tinsel
well, i saw recommendations for WS2812b on reddit but i'm not too sure of disadvantages or advantages of them. i'm in the US, don't really have a budget, and i mainly only care about dimming/color
zealous dune
what are you using them for exaclty
undone tinsel
around a desk, and maybe under cabinet lighting for kitchen in the future
zealous dune
analog rgb led strips with a controller
zealous dune
personally i'd never get 30 led, 60 is the minimum
undone tinsel
i don't know how bright they actually look, but i don't need extremely bright lights
zealous dune
its not about brightness, its about uniformity
winged knoll
If it's indirect 30 LED/m can be ok, but if you can see it at all, or it's not really indirect, 60 LED/m or higher is nicer
I've got some 30 LED/m behind the bedhead, and in that location, with the distance from the wall, it looks fine
undone tinsel
is there any specific brand of lightstrip you recommend?
winged knoll
The quinled site has some reviews, beyond that you may need to narrow down your choices in terms of specs first
undone tinsel
based off what was said in the quinled site, it seems like the ws2812b's are probably the best for this use. thanks.
undone tinsel
having trouble finding a controller that supports 5vs instead of 12/24v though, any suggestions for controllers? i don't really have a preference of wifi vs z-wave vs zigbee
zealous dune
If you're getting addressable led strips there aren't any commercial controllers, only quins diguno
undone tinsel
so i should probably get 12v strips to use a controller instead?
winged knoll
12V or 24V
24V is a better choice if there's going to be any length to it, or the power lead between the transformer and it
opal elk
Hey i have a question about zoned sensors. I'm working on converting the current automation in my church to HA, and one of the hang-ups i have is these sensors in the church. there are like 20+ sensors that all report information to their current system (Omni Pro 2)
Now i know Konnected has a board for integrating these zones directly into HA easy but i'd have to buy like 3 of the boards to work with all the zones i have.
is there an easier way to do this?
winged knoll
Konnected is probably the easy way, just not necessarily cheap
opal elk
Okay dumb question here. Could i setup a bunch of ESP8266's or Arduinos and configure each sensor manually? (aka put 10 sensors to each arduino or something like that)?
opal elk
are there any ESP like devices that have alot of inputs for sensors and what not that works with ESPHome?
or am i looking at this the wrong way?
winged knoll
Well, the ESPHome Discord could answer that one (or #diy-archived here maybe)
sick forge
Hiya guys. Our neighbour just ringed the bell telling us he's had his house broken into just a few hours ago. So i'm looking for a cheap security camera to aim at my front door
Do you have any recommendations? There's amazon prime days so i might get something from there
winged knoll
sick forge
i keep missing channels here, there's SO MANY
winged knoll
One, two, skip a few, 99, 100
trim temple
Greetings, just started with HA, I haven't started buying much for smart devices. I know I'm going to want a large touch screen info board that can display family calendars, news, weather and whatnot. Any have a large touch screen that has been reliable? I thought about just getting a fire HD10 to start with, but would like to go bigger.
jovial oxide
Looking for LED light strip recommendations.
Information:
- Country - US
- Budget - $50 plus or minus a little (looking for something decent and willing to spend more if it is worth it)
- Protocols - Preferably Tasmota flashable with MQTT support (open to other options though)
- Features - Dimmable and color control
Please @drifting grove or DM me with responses.
Thank you in advance! 🙂
tawdry ruin
Looking for LED light strip recommendations.
Information:
- Country - US
- Budget - $50 plus or minus a little (looking for something decent and willing to spend more if it is worth it)
- Protocols - Preferably Tasmota flashable with MQTT support (open to other options though)
- Features - Dimmable and color control
Please @drifting grove or DM me with responses.
Thank you in advance! 🙂
@jovial oxide https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33028948247.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dHh3Osn works great and has a "local management IP option" meaning you don't need any cloud crap
jovial oxide
Thanks @tawdry ruin
rigid onyx
Hi all, I linked a Samsung smart TV today. I see a supported features number, and have looked up what that means in terms of what it can do. However, I'm not sure how I translate that in terms of creating actual services and automation. I tried running a service for media_player.samsung_tv to turn_on and got no results.
For what it's worth, supported features are 20281. And the source list is tv and HDMI.
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
Questions about integrating things with HA go in #integrations-archived 😉
steel swan
Hi, I think I have an English language issue to understand my device 😄 I have a presence detection device, and it has two attributes that I can't quite understand/differenciate:
tamperoccupancy
Can you help me ? ^^