yep
#hardware-archived
torpid tulip
zealous dune
Don't, create sensors in yaml without the availability configuration
torpid tulip
okay. thanks for your help, i'll give it a try
torpid tulip
@zealous dune seams to work π Thanks!
amber snow
How can I add an unique id to my nanoleaf lights:
Here is my config:
light:
- platform: nanoleaf
host: 192.168.86.47
token: cjDyFJBsvQTRiR4ax0qXfXG
winged knoll
You can't
amber snow
I'm getting this message:
This entity does not have a unique ID, therefore its settings cannot be managed from the UI.
I see few people online with the same issue, but none of the answers are clear. The answer assume that you are an expert on home assistant.
winged knoll
The answer is simple - you can't add a unique ID
The only thing you can't do is change the entity_id, everything else works
amber snow
How can I add the nanoleaf light to a room?
winged knoll
You can only add devices to an Area
winged knoll
Only when some developer adds that ability
amber snow
Can I make an entity a device?
winged knoll
Nope
glossy prism
tinkerer, the bearer of bad news
winged knoll
I come with truth. When applied at sufficient velocity, truth hurts.
amber snow
??
drifting ember
I come with truth. When applied at sufficient velocity, truth hurts.
truth, at rest, can hurt
LOL
winged knoll
That message is little more than Nothing to see here, move along
You can't change things there, because they're "hard coded" via YAML
amber snow
Thanks
long charm
@long charm the newer nest minis have hardware switches that let you disable the microphones, and have pretty good sound.
@ruby talon nest minis arrived today. You are right, they sound decent, punch above their price point IMO
ruby talon
@long charm nice! yeah def agree on that.
the og hub and the og google home do not have nearly as good sound quality as the mini
i have a mini in every room, incl the bathroom (for shower tunes)
@amber snow you can add a lovelace card for the nanoleaf. it won't be listed as a device, but it has an entity if you look at the Entities list under 
and sort by Integration and scroll to Light.
https://i.imgur.com/OaAyvAk.png @amber snow
wanton aurora
Anyone have a shelly 2.5 trip when used with a three-way switch as one of the two "switches"? I have a 3-way config in the SW1 set up and a normal switch in the SW2 set up. The three way works just fine by itself..but adding the normal switch trips the breaker. Any tips?
long charm
@ruby talon any neat integrations or tips for the nest minis with HASS?
I see I can send them text to speak
ruby talon
i enjoyed the spotcast add-on for a bit, but then spotify started having issues and i said π to spotify
yeah i tried that. some worked better than others, and it kind of interrupts music.
and i live alone... so it was easier for me to just send notifications to my phone π
snow pawn
Is there a way to make a light group in the UI of Home Assistant? I added a bunch of Zigbee bulbs recently and I want to group them up to make toggling a room's light easier.
gloomy spoke
I don't think so
snow pawn
Shoot. So only through the configuration.yaml file then?
Or a Groups.yaml file if I set one up
snow pawn
How so? What is the better option? I just basically want to tie a group of lights to a single lovelace button.
gloomy spoke
a light group only supports lights and also allows you to use light controls/effects (dim, brighten, etc.)
a group can contain anything, but only supports on/off
gloomy spoke
a light group looks like a light once you create it
snow pawn
I see, sounds good. Yeah I'll end up using the light group. Thanks!
twilit relic
I've got a Logi Pop button (logitech button) that just does not want to behave in Home Assistant
after resetting the required bridge and button, i was able to use the HomeKit Controller to add them to HA. BUT, the only thing that comes over for the button is a battery sensor...
is there any way to rectify this?
glad dust
Has anyone done anything with the Honeywell Galaxyβs Ethernet module? Would be cheaper than a Konnected if I can just chuck one in but I suspect that itβs some closed protocol?
runic drift
@glad dust you might want to look through the forums https://community.home-assistant.io/ I know I ran across a post about that
may not be the exact same thing just know it was about the Honeywell Galaxy for UK
subtle flame
Hello guys, I stucked a bit. I created a sensor what is showing the time since motion detected. This sensors results are never refreshing. Any idea what I missed? https://community.home-assistant.io/t/sensor-not-refreshing/225736
winged knoll
You've configured the sensor to only update when binary_sensor.motion_detection_kitchen changes
Instead you need to use https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/time_date and do maths
subtle flame
Ah I see. Look like what I found on forum is not good.
Thank you
and Can I somehow check the time of the sensor changing status or how should I do the math? Can you please give me a helping hand?
zealous dune
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winged knoll
#templates-archived can help with... templates π
subtle flame
Ok looks like I have to search more π thanks for the hint.
grand sorrel
Couldn't you use a template sensor and get the info with the following template ? states.binary_sensor.motion_detection_kitchen.last_changed
brisk nacelle
winged knoll
twilit relic
Question about Logitech POP button above: #hardware-archived message
cyan wigeon
Hmm.. I'm having issues with the ha android app not sending device tracker info to my ha instance. I can see in the app configuration that the app gets the GPS coordinates, but the state in HA is empty for the specific device_tracker
The geocoded sensor values are sent through as expected
I've tried disabling / enabling the sensor in the app. Enabling zones makes no difference (zones not detected)
What else could I try?
winged knoll
You could try asking in the #android-archived channel
cyan wigeon
@winged knoll ooops π thnx
twilit relic
What about my POP problem. Thoughts?
zealous dune
asking repeatedly won't really conjure up a solution, if there was no answer noone has experience with it
winged knoll
My standard advice is that if you don't get an answer here, ask on the forum
twilit relic
all right, sounds good
amber coral
is the POP button just literally a single button? you can make that with an ESP for a few dollars and run ESPHome on it
lament stone
is someone using homematic ccu2 with home assistant here? I try to create a button for my homematic dimmer to put my light on with dimmer value 20, but I can't figure it out π¦
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
Good news, that you're using Homematic is irrelevant to your question π
lament stone
yeah, great π because I have same question regarding my Hue lights too π
winged knoll
lament stone
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/homematic-set-dimmer-value/225824/2 π
@winged knoll thank you very much for your really fast reply, I try this now π
winged knoll
Do read all the docs I linked too π
I've only given you a part of the answer, so that you have to do some learning too
winged knoll
I linked to it
lament stone
ok then I don't have it
winged knoll
Yes, you do, but cards are a #frontend-archived channel thing
lament stone
just the "normal" button
winged knoll
Scripts are a thing for #automations-archived
lament stone
then it's the normal Button, but there is no "tap action to call a script." option
just call-service
winged knoll
https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/button/#tap_action, but as I said, see #frontend-archived if you need help with that
twilit relic
is the POP button just literally a single button? you can make that with an ESP for a few dollars and run ESPHome on it
@amber coral itβs a stateless programmable switch and itβs glued to my wall
lament stone
https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/button/#tap_action, but as I said, see #frontend-archived if you need help with that
@winged knoll finally got it! π
twilit relic
HA supports this type of device/entity right?
glossy prism
If it's supported it almost certainly uses events for button presses. You won't see an actual entity for button press. Listen for events at developer tools > events when pressing the button
@twilit relic
sullen yew
Iβm new to HA. I want to get some sensors, starting with something simple like leak sensors, probably zigbee. Iβve seen xiaomi and aqara recommended a lot for sensors, but where you prefer to buy them? Do I need to avoid anywhere like Amazon or eBay? Are there different types of leak sensors that work differently/better/worse with HA?
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
There's a lot of choices, but if you can answer the above it'll help π
boreal oar
I just got the schlage connect lock, it uses z-wave. I'm looking for which hub/controller to go with. I've got a few other "smart" devices but they're all on wifi - eyezon alarm system, HEOS Denon AVR and speakers, and i'm looking at getting a bunch of temperature sensors by zigbee, so maybe a z-wave + zigbee all in one solution? I'm adverse to any cloud stuff, in Canada, and budget is whatever is necessary to have something that works well across lots of devices with minimal fuss
I've started putting together a PC to run Home Assistant on but hit some snags during setup and haven't gotten any further yet
winged knoll
See #zwave-archived - basically buy a Z-Wave (Plus) stick and go direct
boreal oar
a usb stick?
winged knoll
Yes
boreal oar
like the aeotec?
gloomy spoke
like #zwave-archived π
winged knoll
He's been posting over there, eventually π
analog dune
Hey folks, I need a bit of advice. Just bought a Xiaomi Mijia Remote, and I can't get it to work for some reason. Well, it works, I can learn and send codes from HA, but when I'm trying to learn codes for both of my IR-devices (TV and AC) I get a new code each time I press a button on an original remote. Which seems kinda weird.
The only thing that worked so far is the Power On button on my Sony TV remote, though for some weird reason it only worked once.
It would be great if you could suggest some ways to solve this kind of issue, since I haven't been able to find any relevant info regarding my devices online.
Also, how do I decode the raw IR codes I learn with HA?
twilit relic
it doesn't seem like HA supports stateless switches...
amber coral
what do you mean by stateless switch?
amber coral
home assistant does support that
twilit relic
1 tap, 2 taps, long press
amber coral
i used an ESP32 with a button to control my lights
twilit relic
when i pair my button with HA, it has no states except battery level
listening to *all events resulted in no activity while pressing the button
amber coral
which hub to you have it paired to?
twilit relic
The button has its own hub, which is on the wifi. I've paired the button hub and the button with HA via the HK Controller
amber coral
what do you have for homekit in your config.yaml?
twilit relic
there's nothing in the config/configuration.yml file fo rhomekit
should there be a separate HK config file in HA somewherE?
amber coral
it appears to be a subsection in your config.yaml
My entity doesnβt show up
Check if the domain of your entity is supported. If it is, check your filter settings. Make sure the spelling is correct, especially if you use include_entities.
If you have no settings for HK in your config, i'm assuming it'll use the default filter behaviour of allow all supported domains
twilit relic
yes it's the default
amber coral
in which case "check if your domain entity is supported"
which you'd assume it'd come up as a binary_sensor or input_boolean
amber coral
i'm afraid i'm not familiar with homekit
twilit relic
the page you linked me to is not HomeKit Controller
sullen yew
@winged knoll thank you. Iβm in the US. No budget limitation at this time. I want a simple leak sensor that is battery operated, and easy to set up w/ HA. I was thinking Zigbee network of switches/bulbs/sensors would be good to get established, but open to hearing if thereβs a reason to choose something else. I have very few smart devices in the home so far and am looking to learn HA on simpler ones first. My only voice assistant is Google Home.
bright jacinthBOT
Tinkerer is away for 30m 19s with a message :point_right: π
twilit relic
the page you linked me to is what devices Homekit can read from HA
should Homekit Controller not support every device/characteristic that is normally supported by Homekit?
amber coral
I guess it only supports whatever the devs have time/will to include in HA
although you'd think a binary_sensor would be important
twilit relic
Stateless Programmable Switch
i don't know what that translates to in the HA world, but it's not showing up anywhere. is there a better channel for HomeKit chat?
amber coral
it translates as binary_sensor
sullen yew
@winged knoll I guess I should add I have the Nortek z wave/zigbee combo stick, just got it to connect to a z wave smart lock that came with the house, but havenβt set up zigbee yet because I donβt have any zigbee devices yet
bright jacinthBOT
Tinkerer is away for 35m 44s with a message :point_right: π
amber coral
@twilit relic try #integrations-archived since it seems to be an issue with the homekit integration
twilit relic
i also don't see what you think it's a binary_sensor
when the button is pressed i guess it counts as closed?
twilit relic
so yeah, HK stateless devices aren't currently implemented in the HA HK-Controller integration.
twilit relic
drifting grove
I've been scrounging the internet and forums for some info on Sonoff's T0EU1C. I was able to flash them with Tasmota but I wanted to go with the ESPHome so followed how to migrate. So far so good. Got the add-in in HA and compiled the binaries and downloaded them but when I do a manual upload of the .bin file it says incompatible.
the .yaml file validates without any issues.
esphome:
name: wc_switch
platform: ESP8266
board: esp01_1m
I'm tired of trying to figure this out by myself and hopping someone can help
amber coral
@twilit relic if it has no state and just fires events, you just need to catch either the device ID or event ID in order to fire actions
ie: for my setup, nfc tags can generate an event in home assistant with Event type: tag_scanned and tag id: blah blah blah, which can then be added to automations or scripts
but because they are passive and just cause the phone to send an event, they aren't entities
maybe your logitech pop is the same. try creating an automation to toggle a light, and then in the triggers setup an event with the device id of your POP
@drifting grove can you post the log when it says incompatible please?
twilit relic
I did try automation triggers like you suggest, but only battery level change Is available π
amber coral
are you setting trigger type: device
drifting grove
I think I found out the issue. Got this at the complete bottom of the migration page. It seems I have to set an option to 1.
If you are using Tasmota 8+ and get an error after uploading the firmware, go to the console and type SetOption78 1, then restart the device and try the firmware again.
trying it right now
amber coral
yeah so because the button is 'stateless' ie: can't be read back, i think it is not an entity of the device, but an event. I would be setting the trigger type: Event, and trying to find the event id to filter by, I'll upload my config for an NFC tag which is conceptually similiar
amber coral
home assistant tells you the tag id when you setup the tag, which is obviously not gonna be available for your system
amber coral
trial and error? π
twilit relic
so if I already did a system wide listen for all events, and no amount of jamming the button with my finger fired any events in HA debug, i think this idea is DOA
amber coral
I guess the event isn't getting from homekit to HA
use a heatgun to get it off your wall maybe?
twilit relic
Lol seriously considering it. Not sure how long the review and merge cycle is going to be for that moon shot PR that adds event support
donβt think I can wait that long
amber coral
i have the same problem with a device i want to tuya-convert. Never know how long you'll wait
you could run that PR to try it?
twilit relic
Thanks for this! Been looking all night for instructions
stray idol
Hello everyone. I got a question. Does anyone know of a budget light switch that also monitors consumption and has integration with HA without flashing?
spice patio
Hi, I am having an issue with a smart plug (OSRAM Zigbee). When I turn it on via UI, the switch on the screen returns to "off" but the plug remains on. The power measuring is also out of wack showing 28,000W. Does anybody have any clue?
gloomy spoke
you probably want #zigbee-archived
runic drift
@stray idol Shelly 1pm. not a light switch, uses your existing switch and sits behind it. price ranges from $12-$16
stray idol
@runic drift that was my initial idea but then I come to the fact that I need a switch on the wall too. You know wife approval thing. Haha
gloomy spoke
Sounds like youβd retain your wall switch
stray idol
I was looking at modifying a decora switch to be momentary. Has anyone tried that?
If I can convert the switch then I could use the Shelly and wala
runic drift
@stray idol there are some diy ways to convert some switches to momentary however once you make the switch you could no longer use the switch without something like a shelly again.
runic drift
yea it works with momentary
stray idol
Do I have to change a setting?
runic drift
stray idol
Perfect. Thanks
I guess I will go with that combo. Shelly 1pm + modified decora switch
spice patio
Hi, I am having an issue with a smart plug (OSRAM Zigbee). When I turn it on via UI, the switch on the screen returns to "off" but the plug remains on. The power measuring is also out of wack showing 28,000W. Does anybody have any clue?
@spice patio I connected the plug to the wall - vertical (instead to a power bar on the floor - horizontal) and now it works fine... I won't touch it.
lament stone
Hey, good morning. Is HOSS running on RPi2 as well?
iron sand
Hi, maybe anyone can help me. I have problems to connect my vacuum cleaner to home assistant. I have a Xiaomi Mi Robot (STYJ02YM) and I also have a token from the cleaner. But in home assistant I got a time out from the miioprotocols. Any idea what I could do? Thank you all!
winged knoll
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/installation/#performance-expectations @lament stone
"Run" yes, perform well.... not really
#integrations-archived @iron sand π
lament stone
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/installation/#performance-expectations @lament stone
"Run" yes, perform well.... not really
@winged knoll thx I ordered already a RPi4 π
runic drift
rpi1a here i come!
winged knoll
You joke, but there are folks out there using those or a Pi Zero, and who then complain that upgrades can take most of the day... π
runic drift
lol i don't think you can even buy the a version of the original pi anymore. but it wasn't that long ago there was someone in here running it off a pi0 lol
I guess once you got it set up and never touched it again, it would be ok
zealous dune
dreamworld
crystal hull
I was using an RPi2, but moved to a HP ProDesk mini computer with an i3 and SSD... Huge improvement! Also switched from Python VirtEnv to Docker (HA, SQL, and more...). I had the computer lying around.
stiff trout
I'm using a old laptop (Lenovo t440P) with a fourth gen i7. runs great
runic drift
it' sad your "old" laptop is newer than my desktop i am currently on
stiff trout
Ah, it was for my job.. worked on it daily for about 5 years. great machine.
It's funny to see it pop up on reddit thinkpad as a second hand machine π
manic rampart
Nice Drakonen! Im running the same thing! Went from a pi to a desktop to the laptop.
heavy oracle
Hi all, I'm a noob to HA but a competent techie so this is a great challenge. I've got HA running and I added a Sonoff Basic device (without flashing anything different on it) to my entities and have been playing with some integrations and some basics with automations. All is good thus far.
I'm now looking at purchasing some sensors, switches and any other useful endpoint devices and got a good understanding of the differences between ZWave, Zigbee and WiFi. I think I will be going down the Zigbee path which I understand requires a bridge/hub and a dongle of some kind(?) for the devices to connect to.
I'm watching lots of you tube videos and it seems like the technology is forever improving and evolving. Am I correct in saying that the best way to attach Zigbee these days is to use a Sonoff Bridge flashed with a zigbee tasmota image? Rather than get a dongle that would plug into my HASS machine?
winged knoll
Best is personal π
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
Plus the Tasmota thing, I've no idea what that supports
#zigbee-archived channel is a great place for advice though
heavy oracle
oh bloody ell. lol
winged knoll
Looks like https://tasmota.github.io/docs/Zigbee/ doesn't document supported devices π€·
Personally, I recommend zha if you want something built into HA, and Zigbee2MQTT if you don't, but there's no universal best or right method
heavy oracle
ok, so from where I enter this world, my learning is that Zigbee is usually the cheapest route to getting small, low power (battery type) sensors and switches. I'm still grasping what MQTT is but this is this next step on my journey. I'm good with NodeRed, so should be able to test MQTT stuff easily, i think
winged knoll
MQTT is just a message transfer protocol
And yes, Zigbee is cheaper than Z-Wave, and has better battery life than WiFi devices
heavy oracle
ok, and Zigbee2MQTT suggests to me that compatible Zigbee devices use the protocol to send messages such as on, off as well as other more complex signals. I think I'll grasp that concept sooner than later.
amber coral
zigbee2MQTT translates the zigbee protocol into MQTT protocol, which allows it to travel over IP
heavy oracle
@winged knoll - that makes sense.
winged knoll
It's more that it's a bridge - it translates. It handles all the Zigbee magic, and talks something else for HA and others
heavy oracle
the "Zigbee Stick" part is the bit I want to get right
manic rampart
I havent used the zigbee stuff myself. Since i liek to hack away at stuff and Im cheap, I went with the mqtt stuff and flashed tasmota on them. So light bulbs, esp8266 devices etc.
winged knoll
That's the great thing with HA - there's a whole long list of options
amber coral
by far the cooler option π
heavy oracle
I'm sure I saw a recent video on Dr Zzz's that showed a stick that was preflashed ready to go. I'll continue looking around, because recommendations just seem to keep on changing as things improve. My question is, does the individual Zigbee devices all connect to the stick? Or do they mesh?
manic rampart
oh and all my stuff runs off an outlet so far.. If it go with somethign liek a remote weatherstation that runs off a battery and a sloar cell that may be a good excuse to take advantage of zigbee lower power. But for now, the mqtt stuff is no problem. Tasmota takes care of most of the realy nitty gitty stuff for me.
manic rampart
and a lot of mtqq devices can suck up your IP addresses.
heavy oracle
even on a private class c, the number of IP addresses are plentiful
Zigbee can mesh
@amber coral But does it always have to mesh?
amber coral
well at some point data will hit the bridge and leave the mesh (where you'll convert it to mqtt)
ruby talon
i know there's probably a reason for this, just curious what it is. the nanoleaf integration results in an entity, but not in a device. why is that? in order to use it in automations, i have to call light services, i can't just call it as a device.
winged knoll
The mains powered devices build the mesh
If you've got a well placed, capable, stick you can get away without a mesh on small installs
heavy oracle
The mains powered devices build the mesh
@winged knoll Ah, understood. Which is what I thought. Hence why when I watched the video showing that you can use a flashed Sonoff zigbee bridge in a well placed position in the house, this sounded like a good idea. It effectively is "the sigbee stick" but not physically plugged into the HA machine.
winged knoll
Well, with Zigbee2MQTT and deCONZ you can run remove from HA anyway
heavy oracle
Oooh
my indecisive brain is hurting
Fundamentally, my main goal/project before I get all creative with HA is to satisfy 1 requirement... I have 2 bay windows in my house, each bay window has 10 individual blinds, so that 20 blinds, which I for sure am not buying 20 of those expensive motorized blind gadgets. My challenge to myself is to build something small that works that I can repeat 20 times, and be as cost effective as possible. "The Hook Up" channel showed a solution to make the motorized part that can hook into HA for $10 each. So I estimate $200 for 20 blinds is an amazing deal.
amber coral
holy crap that's a lot of windows
winged knoll
This is HA, nobody said you have to use only one technology π
heavy oracle
https://i.ibb.co/NVt7hKM/Bay-Window-Blinds.jpg
It's a nice look, but it takes ages to wind and unwind them twice every single day.
amber coral
that's underwhelming i was expecting an enormous set of windows
i wonder if you could mechanically link them somehow
heavy oracle
I knew it would be underwhelming, which is why i just showed the picture. 10 blinds a single bay window sounds like its was expected to be huge, but im afraid not. It's just a huge inconvenience and chore.
I looked into mechanically linking them, but it would look ugly if it was feasible.
amber coral
alternatively you could replace them with a curved curtain rail and a single curtain puller
if not, at least you only need 1 driver, even for 10 individual blind lifters
heavy oracle
just 1 driver?
amber coral
i assume you want all the blinds to raise/lower at once then you just need one module right?
heavy oracle
yeah
but each blind will still need to be individually connected because there's no neat way to tie them all together
amber coral
yeah so as i understand the DIY system is a stepper motor attached to a chain puller
but you can drive all 10 stepper motors from a single ESP32 since the control signals will be the same
maybe one set each for top and bottom since they're different heights
heavy oracle
the motion is a "twist" rather than a "pull" to open/close the blinds. I can't think of a way to attach 5 of them together. Maybe I'm misunderstanding?
This is the inspirational video I was watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O_1gUFumQM&t=317s
amber coral
yeah i mean that each window/blind will need it's own motor and driver, but the actual controller, as in the device that converts zigbee into stepper motor control signals, can be just one per set of blinds
amber coral
silver linings
wooden mica
Agh spent almost 12 hours trying to get my Mi vacuum connected to HA and been through at least a dozen tokens. I am now completely out of ideas and in need of sleep. I set the vacuum up on a new version of the app on Mainland China servers, got an old version of the app on Mainland China servers, check app logs, grab token and IP, plug into configuration.yaml... nothing.
jolly cobalt
Hey, not sure if this channel is the right one, I wanted to ask, I am about to buy these light switches (at least one now for testing) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001331194955.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.20053c00Tam6k0&mp=1 I have two gang switch now, is it possible to buy three gang switch and don't connect the third one to any wire and use it for stuff in home assistant instead?
amber coral
seems reasonable
random charm
Hi, am new to HA and also new to discord (friend said to try in here for this as you guys post lots of good info. - trying to get broadlink rm4 to learn RF, can get it to learn IR. - when would this guys change / enhancement make it to the live version? https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/39671
amber coral
@jolly cobalt i wonder if i could plug none of them in (just L and N) and use it purely as a smart switch
amber coral
I'm currently renting as a student but when I get my own place that's a solid option
winged knoll
@random charm They only submitted it for consideration a week ago - it could be in 0.116, or 0.136, or never if it doesn't meet the requirements for merging. Just follow the PR and you'll be able to see things progress
random charm
Fantastic thanks @winged knoll for the advice.
blissful crane
Random question... Are there any smart locks for deadbolts that actually fit over the deadbolt lever and don't require taking off the faceplate?
This is the only one i've found so far: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084PCRTCW/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A1ZJB7KR4O7862&psc=1
idle zephyr
i need plugs... I am trying to find zigbee 3.0 aqara plugs (US) but they don't seem to exist. What plugs should I use? or are full on outlets the better solution?
winged knoll
See the pinned messages in #zigbee-archived @idle zephyr
idle zephyr
Thanks
heavy oracle
Has anyone by any chance used, or is familiar with a "USR-WIFI232-A2" - it's a Serial TTL UART to Wifi Wireless Module. The module has a manual that shows the pin out, but what annoys me is the simple things such as which way up is the diagram showing the pins. lol. Is there something obvious in engineering/electronics that I dont know about? Because there is no obvious corrolation from the image showing the pins, compared to me holding the device in my hand. It's a 50-50 guess. Arghh
amber coral
do you have a multimeter?
in fact regarding the pinout, one of the pins is square, and you can see in the picture of it that the bottom right pin is square
heavy oracle
can you link me to the diagram you're looking at?
amber coral
for reference, if you did have a multimeter and didn't have the square pin, you could expect the metal casing to be connected to ground, so put your multimeter in short mode, and tap the pins until you figure out which is ground
heavy oracle
im so glad you pointed this obvious observation because i dont have a mustimeter, but im recent times i've found a need to use one - only last week was I wiring up my dashcam to my cars fuse box, and couldn't find an "always-on" connection fuse.
amber coral
i'll admit it
i don't have one at the moment
i'm waiting for the pokit pro to ship, and my cheap one died
heavy oracle
I just hope I haven't fried my module because i know for sure I had the wrong pins connected, and it got very hot and so i disconnected it... and a half second later I could smell the after burn smell, eeekkk
amber coral
maybe, it might just be that it's getting hot.
from the datasheet it's a 3.3v device and up to 300mA, that's 1W of power
heavy oracle
i wonder how tolerant the bits on the board are to taking 3.75V through a RX connection. whoops
amber coral
it'll probably be fine. I'm sure i've never wired something correctly in my life ever
first time that is
heavy oracle
the module only cost me Β£5 but took 3 weeks to get here π¦
amber coral
damn, you could probably get an ESP for less than that with amazon next day
heavy oracle
i'm still learning i guess. As far as I was aware i needed to communicate through serial using WiFi, and this module is what popped up
amber coral
what're you trying to acheive?
heavy oracle
my existing home alarm system can be integrated with HA to allow me to arm and disarm it, and it also uses the the existing alarms PIR's and door/windows in my house as entities through HA.
amber coral
so the UART is connected to your alarm and the wifi is connected to the same network as HA?
heavy oracle
yes
amber coral
does the alarm system know how to communicate with your wifi module?
heavy oracle
hummm...
amber coral
i'd imagine there's a fair chance as AT standard is (reasonably) universal
heavy oracle
the documentation doesn't mention any need to flash the module
I was expecting that I would need to flash the module in some way, but apparently the module has a small webserver on it and thats all it needs (?)
amber coral
yeah it looks like you can run the AT command set on it
heavy oracle
ok, im gonna give it another shot. Thanks for teaching me how to suck eggs correctly π
amber coral
anytime 
heavy oracle
BOOM! The module is now broadcasting it's WiFi AP yay! Now on to the fun bit, the HA yaml stuff
amber coral
π
severe scaffold
Any know how to get mqtt sensor to update more often?
amber coral
what kind of MQTT sensor?
severe scaffold
ive got a sp20 and I"m getting the power and amp info from it
it works with a template to tell if a fan is on or off
but it only seems to be updating every 5 min
I'm using Tasmota and Mosquitto
oh and auto discovery
amber coral
Tasmota is the important bit since the device will be responsible for timing the reports
i'm unfamiliar with the SP20, is it a power meter?
severe scaffold
its a wall plug with power monitoring
amber coral
ok so you just want to increase the refresh rate of the ammeter
severe scaffold
TECKIN SP20 Module
amber coral
i'm not familiar with tasmota but i'm reading the docs rn
severe scaffold
i was looking at the docs and I may have missed the section to update reporting times
amber coral
ok so apparently you can just issue a command to change config
you need to issue the command TelePeriod <X> where <X> is the time in seconds
glossy prism
@severe scaffold alternatively, you can have it push updates when the power usage changes by a certain amount in watts: https://tasmota.github.io/docs/Commands/#power-monitoring (look for PowerDelta)
probably better than basing it on time
change in watts or percent change
severe scaffold
so what I have is a switch template and that template looks at a the watts being used by a tower fan to determine if its on or off (fan is controlled by IR)
glossy prism
heh, i have one of those set up
severe scaffold
so I could use the PowerLow setting to send a message when it is 2 watts or less
if I do that does it update all the sensor data or just send a message?
just found my answer
severe scaffold
that did it
is the PowerDelta command persistent through a power failure? I don't know much about Tasmota
glossy prism
Yup
glossy prism
Power usage (watts)
severe scaffold
do you have that set up as part of the switch, a separate switch or a sensor template
glossy prism
Template fan
bright jacinthBOT
glossy prism
A template in speed_template:
severe scaffold
got it
subtle flame
Hello Community, I have a really interesting question π I would like to create an alarm system with the devices I have. I have the sensors, motion detectors, cameras etc. I also have a Xiaomi Wireless Switch what I will put on the wall in my hall. This psychical button and Home assistant virtual buttons will be the Alarming Buttons, If I go to bed I'll always push this on the wall or on my phone to activate the alarm system. I also want to add there a little feedback red led, where I can see if its activated or not, of course on Home Assistant I'll also add one. If me or my girlfriend goes there and wants to go outside at the morning we will see oops the alarm is still set and we need to push the button to deactivate it. This feedback led would be really important, the only problem is there is no RF/IR controller there to activate this so its need to be WIFI-based led and the most biggest problem there is no power there! There is any method to solve that somehow? I found Abutton on Aliexpress and a lot of ESP based Wifi stuffs but if the LED will stay alive on RED glowing mode, when the alarm system set then it will kill the battery in a few hours or less. Thank you for your advices.
ember carbon
Does anyone know if you can run HassOS from an SSD on a RPi4?
gloomy spoke
Yes
ember carbon
Ok thats good to know
I did the whole bootloader update thing but I cant seem to get HassOS on to my SSD and still have it boot. Should I install HassOS on an SD and then image that to the SSD?
hollow isle
hello. i need help with android app.
twilit bobcat
@hollow isle #android-archived
hollow isle
I did install SSL via DuckDNS + Lets crypt and now i can login outside, but not inside my home network
i can login via web browser inside
amber coral
potent crane
Is there a way to connect an USB endoscope camera to RPI Hassio?
I want to monitor my 3D prints
I mounted this camera near the printer nozzle
amber coral
I don't think there's a native way to connect USB cams, but you could start a new docker instance running https://github.com/gen2brain/cam2ip and then connect that as an IP cam i think. also try #cameras-archived
twilit bobcat
@potent crane check out octoprint if you haven't already. it's great
potent crane
Yes I want to connect it to Octoprint
I have an instance running on Hassos
But I need Hassos to recognize the camera
runic drift
you can install motioneye
potent crane
Will this camera be supported by motioneye? https://allegro.pl/oferta/mini-kamera-media-tech-endoscope-usb-mt4095-ip67-7137159679
winged knoll
#cameras-archived would be a good place to ask, but they do document supported devices
If it has Linux support, you're likely golden
runic drift
I have one of those, not that brand tho. great for shoving in tight places to get an idea whats there but it was crappy used as a general camera hehe
winged knoll
Yeah, if you want an actual camera, a cheap webcam would be far better
rigid perch
Hey folks! I have just set up a Shelly 2.5 and a Shelly 1 in my house. I'm wondering if it's possible to remap switches? Firstly, if possible on the default Shelly firmware, and if not, Tasmota. For example, I'm looking for a switch attached to the Shelly 2.5 to stop controlling the device attached to the Shelly 2.5, and rather control the device attached to the Shelly 1. Conversely, I want the switch on the Shelly 1 to control one of the devices on the Shelly 2.5. Thanks for your help in advance!
Please @ me if you can help out! All the best!
runic drift
@rigid perch wut?
that is making my head spin
I get it now
had to reread it a few times
rigid perch
Haha sorry
runic drift
you use detached switch mode
not sure you can control one with the other through firmware only but through HA you can easily
using an automation
rigid perch
Gotcha! So I'd use the detached input as the trigger for the automation and then the automation would turn on the other light, and vice versa
runic drift
correct
using the built in mqtt you can probably get it to do from shelly to shelly.
rigid perch
Great! Thanks for your help!
cunning helm
Hi
I'm using the home assistant + conbee II stick and hue bulbs. Everything in the latest version but the deConz addon can't find any hue bulbs
winged knoll
See #zigbee-archived (or the deCONZ Discord)
frigid dove
Will this camera be supported by motioneye? https://allegro.pl/oferta/mini-kamera-media-tech-endoscope-usb-mt4095-ip67-7137159679
@potent crane why would you want to use that in motion eye, this doesn't sound like the right application for it
plucky shuttle
I used to track my phone by wifi (using devicetracker/ping) to tell when I was home, but ever since I switched to iOS from Android, this doesn't seem to work consistently (iOS appears to disconnect from wifi when not in use)
Does anyone have any recommendations for circumventing this iOS issue or a better mechanism of "at home" detection?
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
Bluetooth > WiFi
Interesting, stock Android and many custom ROMs behave exactly the same, so you got "lucky"
plucky shuttle
Interesting. I had a Samsung Galaxy S8 before. I used to keep BT off to save battery, but battery isn't an issue now so I could switch to BT
winged knoll
Actual battery drain from Bluetooth has been irrelevant for years now
plucky shuttle
Oh, huh, cool. Incremental upgrades or was there a big innovation?
winged knoll
A bit of the first, coupled with the fact that screens consume masses of power
So sure, when you had a tiny battery and small screens Bluetooth was a relatively large drain, but for the last 5 to 10 years it's been insignificant
One of the tech sites did tests recently and discovered that the battery drain from Bluetooth is less than the margin of error in the measurements π
plucky shuttle
Wow, that's wild. I guess we're finally getting the fruits of that computing energy revolution and devices are becoming less power hungry
I was kind of wondering about that when people were talking about BLE contact tracing, so that's an interesting piece of the puzzle I wasn't aware of
winged knoll
I've left Bluetooth switched on for every phone I've owned in the last 15+ years - I saw a steady improvement at first, and then stopped caring
It's not been a factor in reaching the end of the day for over 5 years now - long enough that I can only say "less than 10, more than 5" π
plucky shuttle
I guess it also depends on how often you change out your phone -- battery capacity seems to drop significantly over time, though I'm not quite sure how much is degradation vs. increased drain from OS changes and other bloat
winged knoll
I'm still rocking my OG Pixel - so that should tell you something
Call it 3.5 years since I didn't buy one right away
plucky shuttle
Nice! People really liked the early Pixels, right? But I think they're not liking the new ones as much
runic drift
I like my pixel 3
winged knoll
We've got the OG, a 3, and a 3a here. None are bad they're just not as good value for money as the previous range
Folks have got a Moto, and other than the skin (and lack of updates) it's a nice phone
I'll be upgrading to a Pixel 4a or 5 though π
plucky shuttle
Meh maybe I should have asked you all about what phone to buy. I'm really regretting the switch to iOS
Not being able to install uBlock Origin and PrivacyBadger on FireFox is driving me crazy
Brave is like 90% there but not quite
winged knoll
I'm a huge Android fan, and iOS annoys the heck out of me
plucky shuttle
I hadn't used it in over a decade and my parents offered to pay for my phone if I switched... hard to refuse that offer
People really like FaceTime
glossy prism
I'm still rocking my OG Pixel - so that should tell you something
@winged knoll wait really?? So am I
When the battery is past EOL I'm just gonna have it replaced
winged knoll
Well, that's really a topic for #integrations-archived π
plucky shuttle
Oh, good point. I'll repost it!
tidal grotto
Hello Fellas, I'm looking for an alarm plug.... I have a motion sensor zigbee but want detection at certain times to make noise... what options is there compatible with Ha?
winged knoll
Any media player...
runic drift
lol any controllable 12v relay like sonoff/shelly + old mechanical door chime and presto.. annoyance with every motion
winged knoll
Oooooh, Zigbee plug + chime + Binding and you get an automatic ding every time the sensor detects motion
tidal grotto
I have the motion sensor send me notification which buzzes my smartwatch a million times to wake me up, it triggers 11pm till 6.30 am... the valuable is not there when I go to work
bit against media player as they suck bit too much power for my liking as I have no need for another one in the shed, I know its only 2-3 watts idle, but surely there is something else that uses like 0.5?
scenic plaza
im trying to integrate my philips 70PUS6504 into home assistant but i cant find any mention of being able to this.
Looks like there was a lot for 2016-2018 models but nothing from 2019.
wise socket
Anyone have a konnected alarm panel that can help me out? I just wired it up and added it to home assistant but none of the sensors change state. I think I wired it wrong. Can anyone help?
olive brook
I need to find a 12 V power supply that I could control using Home Assistant Ξ² and Google. Any idea?
amber coral
Smart socket + 12v adapter?
crystal hull
@olive brook Similar to me? I'm waiting on some D1 mini's π
@olive brook I missed the URL: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/making-12v-siren-smart/220226
limber reef
Hey guys!!! Has anyone here ever used a Sonoff in the same circuit as a water pump? I don't know if it will work well since current peaks may occur when the circuit starts to work.
I have a few Sonoff POW (16a right?) here with me and my idea was to control my water pumps. Example: Sonoff will always stay on but the pump may be on or off according to water level (different circuit to control the pump). When the pump is on, the energy will flow through the Sonoff and then it will measure a current. Home assistant will monitor the current and since it noticed that the pump is on it can send a push notification to the user.
My worries here are using a sonoff with a water pump. My pump regular current is below 10A.
runic drift
@limber reef if your worried that during a "peak" the pump might exceed 16 amps you could always use a plug in meter to check prior to using the sonoff.
I personally doubt it would if it's rated for 10a but to ease your concern you could do that
limber reef
I personally doubt it would if it's rated for 10a but to ease your concern you could do that
@runic drift
Thanks!. I measured it and it does not exceed the 16A. I was also worried because it is a 'motor' and normally this circuit is sinusoidal. But I guess it will work.
runic drift
should work just fine
winged knoll
Sounds like #templates-archived
winged knoll
Globally, AliExpress or Amazon if it exists in your country
formal pecan
ye was looking at aliexpress, the most selling beacon keyring on there seems alright abit dodge. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32826544680.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.103a423a9FC9v9&algo_pvid=fb385274-67a7-4956-8d2b-590523133d51&algo_expid=fb385274-67a7-4956-8d2b-590523133d51-0&btsid=0b0a050b16001836874468382eef9d&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
maybe i just need to look at chips and maky my own keyring
winged knoll
I bought a Chipolo myself, easy to get and works well with monitor
formal pecan
is it just any generic "key finder" type device will be fine right?
winged knoll
No idea, but probably
formal pecan
thanks, ye typing key finder into aliexpress yields much better results
frigid dove
So I was going to put a Wyze sensor in a mailbox and when my mom heard, she said no it is "probably illegal"
Does anyone have any ideas for identifying when mail is here?
Like mailbox cameras exist so I'm sure it is legal, but my mom doesn't want anything in there
winged knoll
If it has a door/flap, a door/window sensor if you've got the range
zealous dune
@formal pecan these are less dodgy
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLw9767
blissful crane
Are there any smart locks for deadbolts that actually fit over the deadbolt lever and don't require taking off the faceplate?
This is the only one i've found so far: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084PCRTCW/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A1ZJB7KR4O7862&psc=1
runic drift
@blissful crane there are lots of them, but maybe not so many with an outside keylock part
plain lance
greets. does anyone happen to know how I can reset a cheap 433MHz remote to new codes? they seem to have a "wipe code" dance, but not a "reset to random code"
using a Sonoff 433MHz bridge running tasmota that is
mqtt integration if that makes a difference
limber tinsel
anyone experienced yeelight bulbs connection problem?
it might be related to HA 0.114 as I checked everything else - router is same, wifi has same setting, unifi wasn't updated for good 3 months, bulbs have static IP for ages....
winged knoll
No issues with mine on 0.114
limber tinsel
I'm struggling TBH - rgb v2 and v1 - all of them I have so 8
they are out sometimes after 1 hour, sometimes after 12 hrs, longest time was 2 days
just started all of sudden last Friday, and well I'm hopeless - did reset, changed servers to china, sinagapore, back to europe, restarted APs, changed DNS in pi-hole
Unable to update device 192.168.88.116, Salon lampa pojedyncza: A socket error occurred when sending the command.
Unable to update device 192.168.88.121, Biuro 3-3: Bulb closed the connection.
winged knoll
I only see that kind of thing when the light needs power cycled
limber tinsel
so somethin is with yee and commands sent from HA (Source: components/yeelight/init.py:326)
but well they were rock stable for months it's first problem this year and I'm running wild
as nothing has changed beside hass version
blissful crane
@blissful crane there are lots of them, but maybe not so many with an outside keylock part
@runic drift That's what I explicitly need because I'm unable to modify the lock / door in any way (apartment.)
limber tinsel
another one down just 3 min ago without a reason ehh
high yarrow
Hey I had a quick question about NFC tags. In HA, do they work more like a switch or executing a script? Basically I want to know if I could use it to more or less check into a room. If I put the card on a table and drop my phone on top it would know I'm there. But then when I'd pick it up it would know I was leaving. Not sure if this would work or not
amber coral
NFC tags aren't constantly read, they fire an event one time only
plain lance
it depends on how you read them -- you could program a reader to act as an on/off switch
I've done this with a esp8266 and a nfc reader to play music while a tag is on the reader
you could have it send something on MQTT on events, HA wouldn't even care that it's NFC vs an actual switch
high yarrow
Yea I was just hoping to make things easy by having my phone be the reader and the tags would stick to specific spots. So as I moved my phone around it would know if it were down in a room or not
amber coral
BLE beacons can do that no?
high yarrow
Yea but just a little more complicated
plain lance
yeah I don't know about that, what would the phone use to read the tags?
Android or iOS?
amber coral
my phone can read tags
plain lance
you could rig something in Tasker to continuously check for tags and do the on/off thing
or of course make an app, but that's more involved
high yarrow
Haha yup
But maybe Tasker can just do the constant checks after a tag has been read so it doesn't devour my battery
I'll look into that
high yarrow
Yea that's what I was thinking
And when it doesn't hit it's not there and stops check g
plain lance
also, if you move the phone to another tag, that's easy
I've switched to an iphone this year, I try not to think of tasker anymore π
high yarrow
Haha could be worse!
ruby talon
just put tags on the inside and outside of your doorways and scan them as you walk in and out of rooms
winged knoll
Auto closing doors that require you to scan in and out of the room before they'll unlock...
plain lance
write a chat bot that messages you every 30s and asks you in which room you're in
amber coral
PIR sensors?
winged knoll
Drones to follow people around
plain lance
get a dog that follows you around and train it to scan its tag on each door
olive brook
@olive brook Similar to me? I'm waiting on some D1 mini's π
@crystal hull
Will look in to it. I am searching for a guide about ESP and Home Assistant Ξ² for dummies. I havenβt figured it out yet how it work and how to code them:/ but will add this to list thanks
amber coral
How you use esphome depends on how you have HA installed. If Hass you can just install the addon, otherwise you need to spin up a docker instance for it
pulsar mauve
I just asked in Zigbee but is this or is Zigbee the correct place to ask about flashing a zzh with the Zigbee firmware?
buoyant dune
If I add devices via the UI rather than config.php, will that be an either or, does it add it to config.php, or does it just use both?
winged knoll
#zigbee-archived @pulsar mauve - assuming you've already read the instructions in the ZZH docs about how to flash
There is no config.php @buoyant dune ;)
But yes, HA loads from both the YAML and the UI configs
buoyant dune
So if I have a roku device set up and the integration "present" all that's left is to set up the card, right now it's at the default, but I'd like it to act more as a remote. Is the only option here to simply install a custom card from github?
@winged knoll
winged knoll
Well, cards are a #frontend-archived thing, and I have no idea about Roku - I don't use my UI as an oversized remote control π
buoyant dune
Fair enough! I'm getting the basics down, then I plan on integrating it fully. Otherwise most of my spare time lately has been getting swag and letsencrypt set up so I can have alexa interact with things
green oyster
Team. I have a sensor which feeds me an output, and i need to translate that output into the proper scale. It basically gives me a number between 5813 - 29390, and I need to change the scale to 0-2000
Can this be done on the home assistant front end, or do I need to do it in the code?
winged knoll
You'd do it with #templates-archived
sleek wolf
Hey,
Is there any way we can control LG HVAC system which supports LG Smart Thinq?
If yes, what all component would be required to set it up? Thanks!
winged knoll
Have you looked at https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations yet?
sleek wolf
yep
winged knoll
If it's not there, there's no built in option, but Google should find you something
I googled Home Assistant LG HVAC and found a custom #integrations-archived
sleek wolf
thanks. what I wanted to know is - has anyone tried it, and the if I'd require any physical component to enable the setup (apart from the HVAC system obv.)?
sleek wolf
yes - I did. Thanks.
formal pecan
Alot of talk around NFC tags at the moment but my phone doesnt support NFC π¦ Anyone know if its practical or possible to have a seperate reader that would serve a similar purpose?
runic drift
@formal pecan did you see this? https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2020/09/15/home-assistant-tags/
winged knoll
See also #tags-archived
formal pecan
ah sorry, didnt see the new channel
runic drift
me either heh
ripe girder
anyone use IR pucks? i just got one and i dont think i can use if for HA but im wondering if there is one that does work with HA
runic drift
is that like one of those broadlink RM things?
glossy prism
yeah, the broadlink IR blasters work locally with HA @ripe girder
i have two of them
ripe girder
Awesome!
little sentinel
You can't use combee zha to interact with tiling plugs righ?
winged knoll
If they're not Zigbee, no
ripe girder
ok ordered thank you @glossy prism
bright jacinthBOT
hard tinsel
@winged knoll thanks
Does anyone have any recommendation on motion sensor hardware for use in automating lights on/off? Perhaps a multi-sensor so it can do other things too. Are the DIY ones by BRUH Good? I have a 3D printer so I could make it pretty easy. I'm in the UK, I don't really have a budget, interested in what my options are, have no protocol preference since I'm just getting started π
winged knoll
Depends on whether you want "compact and nice looking" or "cheap"
Cheap means DIY is fine, the other option means you're buying
There's good Z-Wave multi-sensors (Fibaro and Aeotec)
There's no good Zigbee ones, but you can buy separate sensors for a fraction of the cost of one Z-Wave π
hard tinsel
I see, I do think the BRUH ones look perfectly fine, Apart from looks, is there any functionality downsides/upsides?
winged knoll
You may have to do some tinkering to avoid interference, but π€·
hard tinsel
and now I just googled the Aeotec ones...they do look really nice lol
winged knoll
They are, though the Fibaro ones are actually slightly nicer in person
hard tinsel
I guess the downside is that the aeotec/fibaro ones are just motion, while the BRUH is a multi sensor, but I can see now that the others definitely look better. Would be interesting to make a good looking DIY alternative
winged knoll
Ah, no, the Aeotec and Fibaro are multi
Motion + Temperature + light level, and in the case of the Aeotec also humidity
hard tinsel
Ah cool, then yea, maybe tempted to pick up one of those instead, thanks for the info π
winged knoll
They're not cheap, but they work really well
hard tinsel
Indeed, Β£50 each, I guess I'd also need a Z-Wave USB dongle too?
winged knoll
Yup
So, a Zigbee motion sensor, temperature humidity sensor, and light sensor would set you back about Β£30 for the three...
You could then place each where it works best
hard tinsel
I'm guessing that's a better solution?
winged knoll
Cheaper anyway
Better is relative
That Β£20 per room saving soon adds up, and would probably pay for window sensors for each room
hard tinsel
yea, I want to do that too, I'm in a rented place atm so looking at the stuff I can easily take with me when I move next year, want to do all the things once I've got my own place π
civic kraken
I love the Xiaomi motion sensors that I've had for a couple of years now. So if you choose to go with zigbee, I would recommend those
hard tinsel
do like Xiaomi, I have a yeelight already and it's good π
my logic would be that separate sensors would be better too, then they could be positioned in better locations
winged knoll
The Xiaomi Mija light sensor is awesome, the Aqara temperature/humidity sensor is really good. Their motion sensor is, compared to others, simply ok, but ... it works
hard tinsel
I see, is there a better zigbee motion sensor you'd recommend?
civic kraken
Just for reference, what's the difference between motions sensors you've had Tinkerer? I've only tried to Xiaomi so far
winged knoll
Z-Wave ones are very tuneable, Zigbee ones aren't tuneable at all
I've heard that the Hue motion sensor may be good, but I don't have one to try
civic kraken
right, didn't think about the tuning
winged knoll
For Zigbee I've got:
- Aqara - ok
- Konke - can't get it paired π¬
Z-Wave: - Fibaro - rock solid, but does tend to eat batteries
- Aeotec - had some issues, but runs on USB power
hard tinsel
Part of me is tempted to do option C: Design my own wall mountable case that looks like an Aeotec and takes the BRUH innards
civic kraken
Biggest issue with DIY is the power consumption I think
the xiaomis I have, have been running on the same battery for two years now
winged knoll
I want to try the BlitzWolf, CR Smart Home, HEIMAN, and iHORN ones - they all look ok and work with Z2M
hard tinsel
that's pretty impressive, I was leaning more towards wiring everything, but with a battery life rated in years it doesn't seem worth the hassle
glossy prism
the hue motion sensor is top-tier tbh
winged knoll
Even the Fibaro goes 6+ months on batteries
glossy prism
it's just incredibly expensive for a zigbee motion sensor
i was able to find them for 20 USD at best buy one time though. should have bought a few because i've never seen that deal since
winged knoll
And the Hue is relatively large and ugly π
hard tinsel
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/smart-tech/smart-tech/smart-home/smart-security-and-cctv/philips-hue-hue-smart-motion-sensor-10168910-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2f489429-2329-4fcd-941a-a6a497a10e1d&istItemId=wtilqwapi&istBid=t this one? It doesn't seem that expensive
glossy prism
indeed
winged knoll
The Xiaomi ones are about Β£10
hard tinsel
I see
also another fun question, what's the deal with range on these things? I mean Zigbee is obviously some RF protocol, I can't imagine a USB stick getting enough range to decently cover a typical home?
winged knoll
Mesh
glossy prism
Mesh
winged knoll
It's a mesh network
glossy prism
It's a mesh network
hard tinsel
ahh, fancy
winged knoll
glossy prism
hard tinsel
clearly you two are twins lol
winged knoll
π
glossy prism
you're the end device
hard tinsel
suppose it brings me to the logical next question, is there any recommendation for zigbee USB sticks (again, in the UK)
hard tinsel
I see, will do some googling first but I have a bit of a better picture now than when I started, thanks π
civic kraken
check the topic too π
winged knoll
See also ...
bright jacinthBOT
amber coral
long shot but has anyone taken apart a beko coffee machine? I want to see if mine has a UART
zealous dune
then take it apart π
glossy prism
doit
amber coral
I'm gonna do it once i've moved house
I took apart the coffee machine at my old work to fix a pump, that literally had an rs232 on the back. My machine doesn't appear to have anything, but you gotta assume it'll have a UART inside somewhere
glossy prism
The abode gen 1 gateway has a 6-pin header. Can't get anything to show up in the console though
drifting grove
Hi all, got into Home Assistant after using the manufacturer apps for some time. To get to the point: I'm using sensors connected to Tuya/Smart Life but as you may well be aware their API doesn't expose sensors. So I'm looking for a good replacement source for sensors that works great with Home Assistant. Are the Xiaomi Aqara range of sensors any good? Other brand recommendations? Thanks!
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
If you're looking for a range of different sensor types, I'd suggest starting with Zigbee (see the pinned messages in the #zigbee-archived channel)
drifting grove
The Xiaomi sensors in combination with their bridge is Zigbee I think. But I don't know if that brand is particularly well supported by Home Assistant
I see here that there might be some issues with different bridge revisions: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/xiaomi_aqara/
winged knoll
They're supported by the Zigbee integrations you can use
Don't waste your time with their bridge π
I use a stack of them with Zigbee2MQTT, others use them with zha, and others use them with deCONZ
drifting grove
Hm, but Zigbee does require getting a radio right? How would I handle connecting multiple radios on different locations to the same HA installation?
I'm using a Raspberry pi to run HA on btw
drifting grove
But I want to use sensors at different physical locations (two houses that are not in range of each other) without them being separate houses
Separate houses as in different HA installations
winged knoll
That's fine
You'll need connectivity between them (eg with a VPN) and you can easily run (say) a remote Zigbee2MQTT install in the other house
drifting grove
I have a VPN connection so thatβs cool. Iβll look into zigbee2mqtt then!
Thanks!
winged knoll
No worries
bright jacinthBOT
wide sleet
I have some lifx bulbs in a scene and those bulbs, I have the effect set to lifx_effect_colorloop, which was done via the UI. It works if you invoke the effect manually. But when you activate the scene, even though the effect was set to effect_loop, it still won't loop. I have to go to the bulb and manually set it each time. When looking at the scene's yaml, this is what I have in there, which was created when I set it via the UI: ^
I did have effect: lifx_effect_colorloop right above effect_list but it keeps disappearing
hot schooner
I don't know if anybody else has seen this but for some reason tasmota devices just randomly cannot connect to the mqtt service on home assistant. In the tasmota log it just says connection failed. I am able to get to the ip address of the tasmota device. I can get into hass.io and issue a ping command to the devices ip addres and it will come back with no responce. If i try it again it says it is alive and the device reconnects.
winged knoll
What's your MQTT broker?
hot schooner
mosquitto i got it from the add-on store
verbal magnet
Anyone have a reliable way of sensing if a key lock is engaged on a front door? I want to integrate this, but Iβm only going to get one chance to not ruin the door frame so want to make sure itβs done right the first time
runic drift
@verbal magnet door/window sensor. nothing to ruin
gloomy spoke
For a lock? Like on a door handle or a deadbolt?
granite helm
Hi, is there any way to add nest thermostats to HA. I have wached many videos and they said it was no longer I went on the intergations page on the main website of ha and found of yaml file syaing nest: and then enter your info. It connected but then it says to authorize your acount and then there is a link you have to click and it opens like a nest login page where you have to enter your info. I do but it doesn't go through or does it let me reset the password. It there a work around on this or is there something i can buy to make it work,
gloomy spoke
verbal magnet
Sorry, I may have been a little unclear, I am looking for a way to detect if the deadbolt has been engaged from the door being locked
I'd like to be able to bring up a notification on our mobile phones if we leave the house and manage to get a certain distance away without the door being locked
In which case a door/window sensor would only be suitable to tell us after the fact if someone decided to walk in
fringe moon
Unless the deadbolt is smart you need some kind of sensor to either see if it is engages (pushable ones) or something to notice if it is in contact inside( pushing on something or a distance / metal sensor)
runic drift
door/window reed switch on the deadbolt latch. magnet sticks to levver, switch connects to door. ugly but works
undone haven
@verbal magnet , how about a zwave lock?
verbal magnet
@fringe moon That is what I was thinking, a magnetic/distance sensor or an engagement switch, was just wandering if anyone had done something like this
I appreciate that a lock only keeps and honest person honest
but I also have a deep distrust in smart locks
verbal magnet
I'd like to how to get a thing into the door frame
it is metal
so I'm only going to get one chance to not mess it up
otherwise it could be a costly mistake
verbal magnet
A door and frame like this
a straight unit on the door with a handle and a key mechanism below it
key engages a deadbolt and 2 clips top and bottom
whatever I fit I will have to drill/dremel into the frame
unless there's a better solution
undone haven
Just a point, you donβt trust locks so you would rather weaken your door frame at the deadbolt ?
undone haven
Well, anything that detects the deadbolt engaging is going to have to be close enough to the deadbolt to detect it, which means, you will change the integrity of the frame
verbal magnet
I've been thinking of drilling a small hole in the frame from the back of the deadbolt hole to the wall and putting a push switch in that
it shouldnt change the integrity much
I'd have thought
and lets be honest if someone really wants in theyll just smash a window
I just want piece of mind that the doors are locked
undone haven
Right, which contradicts your fear of smart locks.
verbal magnet
How exactly?
I'm genuinely intrigued I specialise in IT security
So my distrust is at a technical level of how hard it is to bypass a smart lock
undone haven
How exactly do you think someone will intercept your zwave lock with a secure inclusion?
runic drift
it would be easier to kick in the door than to hack a smart lock and faster too just fyi
verbal magnet
for starters why would I use zwave
undone haven
Why wouldnβt you?
zealous dune
there a lot less criminals with deep knowledge of wireless hacking than ones with a crowbar
like a lot
winged knoll
Hacking a Z-Wave smart lock requires close proximity, and the encryption keys
And more skill than any typical burglar is likely to have
undone haven
So thatβs like 4 people telling you otherwise π
winged knoll
Hell, hacking secure Z-Wave devices doesn't seem to be a thing that's talked about at all
I'd be a lot more worried about WiFi or Bluetooth
verbal magnet
I was just more intrigued about how zwave got into the conversation
winged knoll
"Most secure" option
undone haven
Because of what Tinkerer said
verbal magnet
"Most secure" option
@winged knoll buy a bank vault, live in it xD
winged knoll
Well, that's one option
I'm contemplating https://nuki.io/en/smart-lock/, and it's not even Z-Wave
zealous dune
no matter the protocol the point is that doors are locked against opportunistic criminals not "professional" burglars
i presume you don't use remote locking on your cars?
winged knoll
Two neighbours have had break-ins here. Both left their car keys sitting on a windowsill visible to the world, both had their cars stolen. Nothing else
I've left my car unlocked on the drive overnight more than once π¬
zealous dune
Unlocked car without keys is harder to drive away with if you don't know what you're doing π
verbal magnet
I left my keys in my motorcycle overnight once, gave myself a stern telling off the next morning and haven;t managed to do it again yet
runic drift
i'd never buy a smart lock that couldn't be unlocked manually from the outside
winged knoll
Yeah, but nobody even stole any of the contents
@runic drift That's why I like the look of the Nuki
verbal magnet
it's a game of luck and having insurance
as the police dont give a shit about thieves anymore
winged knoll
And making your house look less attractive than the others around π
Dog + alarm helps
runic drift
considering the odds of someone coming through your front door and what method as to which they do it I wouldn't even consider risking messing up my door or frame just to appease a fear
winged knoll
Mostly I'd like a smart lock so that I can unlock the door remotely when somebody forgets their keys
cough wife cough
runic drift
but don't they need those keys for other things? lol
verbal magnet
Based on what you lot have said I may just get in contact with some local access control companies
zealous dune
common reason to get a smart lock π
verbal magnet
have a professional solution installed
winged knoll
Yeah, and we've got a house alarm, so even if somebody manages to hack the lock the alarm would go off, and then the dog would attack them come and demand snacks
runic drift
what would be the professional solution in this case
winged knoll
Expensive
zealous dune
dog snacks and shots are also expensive
verbal magnet
@runic drift https://www.tedsystems.com/3-types-access-control-which-right-building/ this kind of thing
where they fit an accredited system
That meets the requirements of the buildings insurance
Then I maybe wouldnt even have to care about having to go back to lock, could just make it auto lock when I get far enough away if it isnt already locked
runic drift
the solution costs more than the whole door and frame.. makes sense
maybe you should just get in the habit of making sure you lock the door
verbal magnet
I should make it clear, I don;t want to mess up my door and frame, but I am not averse to the cost
I am half considering going Control4 or Savant over Home assistant because they have a nicer UI
So I'd prefer to not bring budget into the conversation
runic drift
well if you got money to burn then go for it
runic drift
I always thought the nicer and more secure someone's entry way looked the more appealing it was for someone to break in it lol
undone haven
Hm, I have an alarm on all my cars which remote locks them. Also, light is your biggest deterrent
undone haven
Prob not these days. People are numb to alarms.
runic drift
there's an idea, hire a front door security guard
winged knoll
There's a bunch of posts on the forum, and elsewhere, about detecting locks - but it requires embedding things in the frame to detect the position of the bolt
It's a very hacky DIY thing though
verbal magnet
there's an idea, hire a front door security guard
@runic drift I may be able to afford an access control; system, not sure I could afford to pay someone a yearly salary to sit at my front door
runic drift
I saw a commercial where flo from progressive stood watch over people's homes
undone haven
Flo doesnβt pack a .40, I do π
verbal magnet
That's a very "you don;t live in europe" comment
undone haven
Also if my alarm goes off, it turns on every common area light I. The house
runic drift
cameras and an alarm sign seem to keep most out, those who are still willing to preceed are the type that smash your window and by pass the door lol
verbal magnet
Any of you ever looked into those systems that fill rooms with dense fog when the alarm goes off?
undone haven
The only goal is to make your house less attractive than the neighbors, unfortunately
verbal magnet
I should comment I'm not sure that sort of thing interests me
undone haven
False positives π€£
verbal magnet
just in case i triggered it myself
runic drift
I would be shocked if someone in this server had some elaborate alarm system from the movie mission impossible
verbal magnet
Been watching the instagram stories recently of a company that's started fitting them in the UK
Not sure I like the idea of result of me accidentally setting off the alarm
verbal magnet
No idea, I assume it's non toxic to be allowed to install it in a home
runic drift
still has to cause some kind of respiratory issue over long exposure
verbal magnet
maybe?
undone haven
Why would you want to limit visibility? What you do to the bad guy, you also do to yourself
verbal magnet
In Europe you can;t defend your home with a firearm
as you cant even own one
so you have to come up with alternatives
undone haven
How about a knife? Or a bat?
winged knoll
As I said, dog + make your house less attractive
undone haven
I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6π
verbal magnet
if you beat the shit out of a burglar they can charge you with grievous bodily harm
undone haven
Just me though
winged knoll
It's a way more complicated than that - if you beat on somebody who's defenceless sure, but defending yourself is different
undone haven
Maybe a bat is too Freedom country. A cricket stick π€£
winged knoll
Or a hockey stick
You're only allowed cabers (aka tree trunks) once you're in Scotland
undone haven
Lmao, could you imagine breaking in a house and meeting a bloke with a tree trunk.
Talk about quickly un-assing a situation
terse ice
I've found that simply being crazier than the person breaking in does wonders. Take off all your clothes and start screaming and charging the robber. No one wants to fight a naked dude. Bonus points for a firearm.
verbal magnet
naked man with a firearm, sounds like a nightmare
winged knoll
Or the start of a good story...
terse ice
i see none of you have been to Florida. That barely makes the back page anymore
assault with a reptile is more newsworthy
next solstice
Does the Shelly Dimmer (1 or 2) allow dimming of the circuit while also allowing the physical switch to operate somewhat normally? Is there a special kind of switch I would need for that? (US Wiring w/ neutral wire)
civic kraken
It should have two wires that connect to the physical switch
next solstice
isn't that most switches? π
civic kraken
on/off is how most switches work, yes π
stable canopy
Could anyone help with rebooting a tasmoda light switch via mqtt? The Web UI is down but MQTT is working. I don't want to flip the breaker
It's like this for every light switch I have for some reason, all the web ui are down but MQTT is working.
zealous dune
cmnd/%topic%/webserver 2 or cmnd/%topic%/restart 1
try using setoption41 to stop the webui to become nonreponsive
stable canopy
Oh cool, didn't know it was a feature I guess?
This is my first mqtt public manually how do I what topic to put?
Is it just the 4176DE_RL_1 shown in the image?
stable canopy
Sorry don't know what topic is set as, is it published somewhere? It's not shown in root of mqtt explorer
Could I find it in HA somewhere?
zealous dune
if you don't know your device topic noone does
look for LWT in mqtt info for that device in HA
stable canopy
Alright I look for that. Is the command you posted cmnd.. published as raw?
zealous dune
its just 1 number, you cannot post it as anything else anyway
stable canopy
Oh gotcha,
https://blakadder.com/pir-in-tasmota/ cool post was looking it over.
I use wyze sense and while crazy user friendly batteries are getting to be a pain. Might be looking for new wall switch with PIR.
Was able to restart a light switch sweet, thanks! I'll try that setoption.
half leaf
anyone have home thermostat that looks super slick and doesnt require an over-the-internet API to manage it?
fringe moon
@half leaf physical buttons? Or a screen?
drifting grove
so my sony tv is turning itself on every four hours for about 10 minutes then turns itself off again and I can't figure out what's causing it
home assistant's log says that the state changes to playing but it's not really showing what or why
I don't have any automations set up for the tv either
fringe moon
some magic packet is being tossed around your network ?
winged knoll
Is it turning on, or just reporting on?
half leaf
@fringe moon no real opinion - would love to find something the quality of nest or ecobee.. im just tired of having their APIs fail, and its silly to have to reach out over the internet to do basic things
fringe moon
Well, that is what I asked
Buttons or just a screen
So, you want a full local solution
With control, buttons and maybe even a screen
glossy prism
@half leaf you can connect ecobee to home assistant via HomeKit Controller for full local control. You won't have all the functionality of the cloud API, but at least it'll be local
I built my thermostat schedule with a few home assistant automations
gloomy spoke
Venstar is popular for local control: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/venstar/
half leaf
oo i will have to look at that (the homekit controller stuff) didnt realize
half leaf
hrm any good guides on how to get homekit controller to actually work?
only seems to pick up my bridge even tho i have the ecobee showing a barcode
gloomy spoke
it was pretty straightforward for me
half leaf
im gonna assume this is somehow related to me running HA in docker
gloomy spoke
I did have to make sure that the Ecobees weren't already paired with another HomeKit controller, and I had set them up earlier that way
winged knoll
Not running in host mode could cause all sorts of fun
half leaf
trying to remember why im not tbqh
probably conflicts w/ something
maybe just need to setup vms
do you need bridge setup first for controller to function?
yep its host mode
damn this is going to make everything a nightmare to fix
rip saturday
magic niche
just got HA set up for the first time, and I'm looking at devices I might want to acquire to set up with it - are there any good resources for device comparisons of smart lights/switches/outlets? I want to pick devices for my house based on HA integration and device quality
merry flint
Hi all, i'm also very new to HA and a bit to linux. I've installed and have working a VM version of HA (per the youtube channel TheHookUp), and it has been fine expect for when I tried purchasing a Zigbee USB stick (Nortex HUSBZB-1). I've have been following the HA integration page and i'm stuck on the part of providing the "Serial device path". I cannot find ttyUSB0 the /dev/ or /dev/serial/ folders. When I take out the USB stick and put it back in, the HA output says "usb 1-2: cp210x converter now attached to ttyUSB0". I tired doing a "find" for ttyUSB0 and found it here "./sys/bus/usb-serial/devices/ttyUSB", but when I provide that as the seral path, it still says "Unable to connect to ZHA device". Am I missing a big step somewhere?
winged knoll
@magic niche If you go Zigbee it depends on which integration you use (see #zigbee-archived). If you go Z-Wave then any Z-Wave Plus device will work. Otherwise, just look at the integrations list
glossy prism
@half leaf I run in docker with the ecobee (and other IoT devices) in their own VLAN. No issues
I have mDNS reflection enabled though
half leaf
@glossy prism yeah my issue is im sharing a server with a ton of containers and i wanted to semi-lock them down
im probably missing some config somewhere.. its quite the mess atm
just moving mysql/hass to bridged networking for now
which def fixed the homekit controller stuff
i may try to move hass to a raspi at some point
dont really wanna have to go overboard w/ expensive virtualization just to solve this
and prob would be nice to isolate it for uptime
glossy prism
Tbh I'd skip the pi entirely. I run it on a $100 mini PC with a dual-core Celeron (1.6 GHz up to 2.5 GHz), huge step above a 3B+ and probably still better than a pi 4
half leaf
i am a bit worried about the pi handling all of this
glossy prism
I started on a 3B+ and it was fine but the mini PC was like a night and day difference
glossy prism
Lemme find an Amazon link (I'm in the US)
half leaf
also while folks are around.. any way to hint at homekit rooms/etc for future re-configuration? kind of like you can with google home integration
glossy prism
Looks like it's out of stock, but this is the one I have: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T5DTNPS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_XXKzFb1V0FSYA
half leaf
i had an intel nuc before that used to act as my server.. was a bit pricier, and refused to boot after moving :/
will have to explore tho, thanks
clever rover
Hi, I recently did a update of home assistant but after reboot the webgui wont startup I can only see a login screen in the console (attaching screen to my rpi) which says "Welcome to Home Assistant, homeassistant login:"
Do any of you know what I could do to fix it?
fringe moon
Going to #330990055533576204 and getting help there is probably a good idea
clever rover
ok, thanks
pine apex
not sure if this is the right channel but are there any recommendations for water sensors?
I have a smartthings water sensor currently but need to pick up an additional one
drifting grove
Hi is there a way to read imageβs pixel color or brightness and make sensor out of it?
frigid dove
not sure if this is the right channel but are there any recommendations for water sensors?
@pine apex I've been following this thread on the forums: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/govee-wifi-water-sensor/213277/28
lost briar
hi everyone! I'm using fibaro rollershuter for both my awning and my blind rollers. I would like to remove the one used in my awning from the main group. Currently when I say "Hey Siri, roll down the blinders" my awning is also commanded and I would like to narrow down the group so that that does not happen.
winged knoll
@pine apex If you're already using Zigbee then the #zigbee-archived channel can likely suggest more, but I know a few folks are using the Xiaomi ones
honest narwhal
Is there anyway to rename my iOS devices? For some reason phone gets called "name_s" and the other just "names" while both are called "Name's" in iOS.
subtle flame
Hello Community, I use Xiaomi Wireless Switch with AlexxIT's Gateway3 integration. I created a simple automation what is Toggle Livingroom Light when status of the SwitchSensor is changed. Every 3rd or 4th click is double and turning on and off in 1 second. I cannot really use it with events because in event there is no changes, changing from button:1 action:single -> button:1 action:single.
hybrid nexus
Hi everybody!
I'm using a door sensor (xiaomi, added through MQTT) to check if my door is locked (not closed) or not. The thing is that the setup requires the reverse to be true/false (if the sensor is closed - the door is unlocked).
Is there anyway to reverse the status of the sensor, also maybe the name of the status (closed -> locked; open -> unlocked)?
zealous dune
added through MQTT means what exactly?
hybrid nexus
Please forive the terminology, I'm a newbie.
It's a zigbee type door sensor (from xiaomi) which appears as an entity through the Mqtt integration
zealous dune
so you're using zigbee2mqtt?
hybrid nexus
yes
zealous dune
you can create a new template sensor using states of the existing one or create a new mqtt sensor where you will change device class and payloads
hybrid nexus
I wanted to avoid using a template and now, that you've asked me about zigbee2mqtt I've refined my search. I've just found the solution posted on a forum, it states exactly what you've proposed - just modify the sensor data, delete the original sensor, and redetect it.
Thanks a lot, didn't think to add zigbee2mqtt π
weary edge
OK, I have a z wave dimmer switch I want to connect to a flood light that is not dim-able - is there a way to configure HA dimmer to be a straight forward on/off switch?
past canyon
does anyone know if a GU10 RGB "dumb" light exists?
I mean one that takes RGB + 12/24V instead of 220V or whatever
fringe moon
What
A dumb RGB GU10 that does 12/24v
That's an interesting question
Takes RGB
π§ββοΈ
humble lion
Found some on google.
https://www.leditnow.gr/led-spot-gu10-1-led-3w-12v-30-rgb-me-4-kalodia.html
and some on alli, but that are gone ...
fringe moon
I have no idea why you wouldn't just go ZigBee RGB
humble lion
wire are 100% better <3
fringe moon
π€’
humble lion
every one have they world; i know when i get a new house, i'll wire everything. zwave had me want to tear it appart, and i'm very anoyed of some of my hue light not turning off, and me having to wait 10 sec for the bridge to pull them and let me turn them off again
(also no standby power <3 )
fringe moon
I run 90zigbee devices, I've had no issues in..... 6 months, except for a battery that ran out in a door sensor
tender aurora
Is it possible to use a sensor connected to a pi in h-a?
tender aurora
Less devices
fringe moon
More dependencies on a single device is 100x worse
humble lion
tender aurora
I have a central h-a installation and then vpn to each location where i have a pi and a display
@humble lion yeah, for that you need to have h-a running on the pi
humble lion
sorry, read it after sending the first link
so basicaly, mqtt or remote ssh commande
I run 90zigbee devices, I've had no issues in..... 6 months, except for a battery that ran out in a door sensor
I have so much issue with wireless device that i'm sure there is something in my neighborhood that broadcast noise ... nothing work well aside WIFI
tender aurora
The cover thing could work, yes
humble lion
if you know a bit of programing, i would recomande making a quick python script that pool your pin, and publish to ha via the web api
it's very easy actualy, i am nothing of a dev and done something like that to see if my computer was on
fringe moon
Or mqtt over the internet
humble lion
you can use mqtt to for sure, but if you have to do some python to push to mqtt, might as well push to ha directly if you don't need mqtt
just in case you need it @tender aurora, my old code https://community.home-assistant.io/t/linux-gnome-retreive-the-lock-or-unlock-state-of-your-linux-computer/181489
past canyon
thank you @humble lion
humble lion
hop you find something that match your need
past canyon
@fringe moon client wants to keep using wall switches with the lights. With these I can use a shelly dimmer or something like that
humble lion
you mean shelly rgb i hop, XD
if i'm not wrong, the dimmer will send 120/240v in your 12v bulb
humble lion
but if it's for a client, i would go against ... they will never find replacement if it burn up
past canyon
agains?
humble lion
sorry, my T didn't want to come
past canyon
any idea how to solve the issue I have?
or to put it better, fulfill the requirement
client wants RGB smart lights that can also be turned on / off from the switches he has in place already
humble lion
is your gu10 for a in-wall fixture ?
past canyon
yes
humble lion
the you have many in wall, rgb controled, spotlight
a good brand will allow to find a replacement one day
past canyon
the issue is that if the client turns off the power from the wall then the lights stop working
humble lion
yea yea yea, no issue there, let me find what i am talking about
past canyon
another solution would be to use smart GU10 lights and then to find a device like the shelly 1, except that it sends a zigbee signal that can be paired with the bulbs
so in the event that the zigbee controller dies the lights and switches still work
humble lion
damn me, can't find the name of light like that https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-10X-10W-RGB-LED-Panel-Light-Dimmable-Recessed-Ceiling-Downlight-Colorful-Lamp/124212970201?hash=item1cebab82d9:g:888AAOSww0he~qsz&var=425101975781
they are some of thos who just have rgb+ground wire for a shelly rgb
past canyon
do they fit in a standard GU10 hole?
humble lion
some yea
past canyon
I don't think it's an issue to make the holes a bit bigger anyway
but that's great to know
humble lion
ok the key word is downlight
past canyon
I see the ones you linked come with a controller
I would probably skip the controller and go into the shelly, right?
humble lion
that was just to show you how they look like
past canyon
do you know of any reputable brands options for those?
tender aurora
@humble lion i have written the script to get the output
@humble lion so now i just need to submit it
humble lion
Paolo no i don't, i'm looking but i feel like my googlefu is failing me :( i know i've seen some that fit what you need
past canyon
thank you so much anyway, you've pointed me in the right direction