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tidal pollen Jul 14, 2020, 9:56 PM

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maybe that's what I'm looking for..let me check that out

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yes that's a smart one...

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that makes the shelly mostly redundant

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so maybe something like that, but without the automation functionality would be more appropriate (and less expensive)

zealous dune Jul 14, 2020, 9:59 PM

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that link is not a smart switch

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it only has RF option

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but all this begs the question of why not simply get a smart switch

tidal pollen Jul 14, 2020, 10:00 PM

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shelly has power monitoring and temperature cut off...and certified on european standards

zealous dune Jul 14, 2020, 10:01 PM

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and glass touch switches are expensive already

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and not all will work depending on their internals

tidal pollen Jul 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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in deed

bright jacinthBOT Jul 15, 2020, 5:57 AM

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@scarlet perch posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/k8MGvNp7kb/

opaque sentinel Jul 15, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Hello

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anyone expert of tuya convert?

gritty zinc Jul 15, 2020, 7:51 AM

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@opaque sentinel https://dontasktoask.com/

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And after looking in the other channels, I see you were crossposting too 🤣

fringe moon Jul 15, 2020, 7:53 AM

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nutButton

jade jolt Jul 15, 2020, 9:41 AM

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can anyone recommend a zigbee GU10 bulb - white only will do ?

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brighter the better

winged knoll Jul 15, 2020, 9:42 AM

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#zigbee-archived
See the pinned messages there

jade jolt Jul 15, 2020, 9:43 AM

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yeah I've been there - I was looking more for personal recommendation - who's happy with what etc..

winged knoll Jul 15, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Then ask in the right channel 😉

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You'll find #zigbee-archived users in the #zigbee-archived channel after all

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And mentioning personal recommendation is good to do 😉

jade jolt Jul 15, 2020, 9:44 AM

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oh - a light isnt a device ?

winged knoll Jul 15, 2020, 9:44 AM

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blink

bright jacinthBOT Jul 15, 2020, 9:44 AM

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The topic of this channel is:

Questions about a device (not their #integrations-archived with HA)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff.

Please use https://www.hastebin.com/ or https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs

winged knoll Jul 15, 2020, 9:45 AM

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You're asking about a #zigbee-archived device...

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We have a #zigbee-archived channel for that

robust geyser Jul 15, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Hi, i need some help. I will use my KNX Room Controller to controll a zigbee rgb light. Two switches (saturation up/down, HSV Color up/down) have group adresses that change the hs_color on the Zigbee Bulb. But i must send back the color and the saturation state to the room controller. I have no idea to do that.

I have test it with automation and knx.send:
data_template:
address: 0/2/1
payload: >-
{{ (255 / 360 * state_attr('light.spielzimmer_decke_1',
'hs_color')|first)|round|int }}
service: knx.send

It dosen't work. I see the package in the ETS bus monitor but the Controller dosn't change the state. When i send a value trouth ETS the state is change.
What i see is, the package from HA has no DPT value and vom ETS it is 5.003 Angle.

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Is it posible to add custom attributes to entity? Then i can use knx expose.

robust geyser Jul 15, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Now it works!
I use two number_input helpers and an automation so copy the HSV Angle and the HSV satturation in the helpers.
Now i can expose the values from the helpers to the knx group addresses.

plucky cosmos Jul 15, 2020, 4:44 PM

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hello, I am looking to setup some home automations. What type of device do I need in order to allow Home Assistant to communicate with Zigbee and ZWave devices?

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any recomendations?

glossy prism Jul 15, 2020, 4:44 PM

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...

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see #zigbee-archived or #zwave-archived

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you'll see your options there in the links in each topic's title

plucky cosmos Jul 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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i see it, thank you

lilac cedar Jul 15, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Are there any devices that work in the same way as a sonoff basic (so basically just a network connected relay that can be controlled with mqtt) but that works with ethernet

last lantern Jul 15, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I'm curious, how does one directly link alarm_panel_control to an alarm entity?

I set up Ring Alarm via MQTT and auto discovered my devices. I was wanting to create a manual alarm_control_panel and set it up so that Google assistant can arm/disarm my Ring Alarm MQTT using ```alarm_control_panel:

platform: mqtt
state_topic: "home/alarm"
command_topic: "home/alarm/set"```

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Unfortunately, Google can't seem to disarm/arm that mqtt alarm_control_panel

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I see my MQTT custom alarm but Google just says, "Sorry, something went wrong for my security"

last lantern Jul 15, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Yeah, MQTT, even with the correct state and command topics, isn't working

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Is it possible to use my alarm_control_panel.ring_alarm entity as a manual alarm_control_panel so that I can setup a code?

nimble lion Jul 15, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I've got a number of flood sensors (zwave) added into my system, but I stupidly did not track the locations and name them. So I have some pretty generic names.

What's the easiest way to identify which one is which? I could trigger it and look at the values in the dev tools "states" area but wondering if there's a more efficient way. Could I just look at a log, trigger the flood sensor by putting it on some water and seeing a log message?

lyric halo Jul 16, 2020, 2:31 AM

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That's a pretty efficient way

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Unless these things are in hard to get to places I'd do the states thing.

shut quiver Jul 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Any recommendations for light strips? Never tackled those before

bright jacinthBOT Jul 16, 2020, 7:17 AM

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@shut quiver Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

Which country you're in
What your budget is
What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

hardy kelp Jul 16, 2020, 10:16 AM

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If I have a light switch whose 2 buttons are aligned horizontally

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No labels or anything, both buttons are identical

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By intuition, should the left or the right one turn a device on

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I feel like it would feel more natural if the left one turned something on and the right one off

fringe moon Jul 16, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Opposite for me

winged knoll Jul 16, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Push either button, toggle the light state 😉

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 11:52 AM

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That feels like a question to ask a UX/UI expert, not a group of random strangers 😄

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But as always, Tinkerer is right. You have two buttons, use both separately 😄

winged knoll Jul 16, 2020, 11:52 AM

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Or, use the one nearer the light to control that light and the other one to do something else

fringe moon Jul 16, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Eject the toilet seat

fast bane Jul 16, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Smart Motorised 24vDC Vertical Sliding Door : Australia: $$$: Wifi: RS485 or Modbus integration preferred

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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So...

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my LED strips finally came

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and they use the common MagicHome Wi-Fi controller

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But the seller also included the generic 24-key IR remote...?

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...why?

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As far as I know the wifi controller doesn't also do ir

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On a related note, the controller has a round barrel port (for the 12V 3A power unit) and also a smooth black rectangular cable. What's the purpose of the black part?

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 5:34 PM

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This is one of those rare cases where a photo would be more useful than text.

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I don't have permission to attach files

bright jacinthBOT Jul 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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So hold up, I'll upload to imgur

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https://imgur.com/a/3oxYPb8

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 5:36 PM

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What model of potato did you use to take that photo? 😄

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I can't tell what the connections are from that image.

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 5:37 PM

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poorly lit 4K camera

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I assumed it was common hence why I asked

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brb with a charged phone and a better pic

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https://imgur.com/a/wKXw5Nz

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my phone lens really does not like focussing well on this thing

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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That looks like the same image.

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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that's the same pic isn't it

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Anyway, I googled it instead.

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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wtf is up with imgur damn

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I don't see any pins, so it'll exist to ensure you orient the plug the right way.

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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it says CHQB

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Like how ethernet cables can only be plugged in one way.

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I don't get it

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Noooo... wait. It's the IR receiver.

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2nd image on this listing: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Controller-ALED-LIGHT-Controlled-Compatible/dp/B07R1XKRBK/ref=asc_df_B07R1XKRBK

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 5:42 PM

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that's the IR receiver?

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It clearly doesn't work then :/

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 5:42 PM

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🤷‍♂️

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The image suggests it's a receiver. They draw a connection between the remote and that 'connector'.

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 5:43 PM

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ah

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okay

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it DOES work

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for some reason the IR doesn't work unless the wifi is set up first

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decent LED strip

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First one I've ever bought

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quite impressed aside from the power supply which sparks and audibly buzzes

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and also it seems to find it difficult to sustain white, there's slight flickering

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also, can't figure of a better channel to ask, is it normal for certain appliances to produce a white flash in a power socket when first put inc

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 5:56 PM

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That flash was caused by arcing. It can happen 🤷‍♂️

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But that's why you connect something up and then turn on the power.

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Seems like a bit of a fuss on an extension lead

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Would mean turning off the whole strip

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Then you get to deal with the joys of high voltage electricity... 🤷‍♂️

winged knoll Jul 16, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Buy a strip with switchable sockets 😉

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 6:03 PM

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A smart one, even.

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Perhaps

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I just have a 12-port surge protector that switches off from the socket

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Wow. 12 ports all drawing from the same wall socket. That doesn't sound dangerous.

winged knoll Jul 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Pretty normal in the UK

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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3000W

winged knoll Jul 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Don't forget, no wimpy 110V here

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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I use less than 1000W for the whole tower

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I just need a lot of physical sockets for low-wattage items

winged knoll Jul 16, 2020, 6:07 PM

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13A x 240V = 3.1KW per socket (nominal)

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I think the highest wattage thing plugged in is 100W (tv) and a stereo that takes 50W

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everything else is like 3-60W at highest

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phone charger is 63W ig, turntable is like... 3W?

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British houses just have fuckall physical sockets >:(

winged knoll Jul 16, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Old ones do

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New ones have still not enough, but more

gritty zinc Jul 16, 2020, 6:08 PM

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70's build here and not enough 😦

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 6:09 PM

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my house was built in 2007

winged knoll Jul 16, 2020, 6:09 PM

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We had our last house rewired, and it still required things like 8 socket extension strips in places

sand mason Jul 16, 2020, 6:09 PM

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but by an landlord who has absolutely no knowledge of how to build a house

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I have 6 physical plugs in my room (3 double BS1363)

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single sockets seem to be incredibly uncommon these days

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I have 2 cube splitters in one double (so a total of 6), one runs a 10m 1-port solely for my PC, one runs a 4-port for my bed side, then the last one runs a 4-port and a 12-port for my desk

fringe moon Jul 16, 2020, 7:19 PM

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My house is from the 80s, most sockets are dual, I wish most were quad, but I've change a few of them

little sentinel Jul 17, 2020, 10:51 AM

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So it seems Argos and some other stores in UK are selling: "Philips Hue White and Colour Ambiance B22 Starter Kit" for £59 quid

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do you need the "Bridge"

severe mortar Jul 17, 2020, 10:52 AM

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from memory with philip hue you do need their bridge

little sentinel Jul 17, 2020, 10:53 AM

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ah okay

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so with bridge can interact with conbee2 or zigbee i assume?

gritty zinc Jul 17, 2020, 10:53 AM

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Nonsense. You don't need any bridges for the vast majority of ZigBee devices.

severe mortar Jul 17, 2020, 10:53 AM

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I think it's zigbee, but don't take my word for it

gritty zinc Jul 17, 2020, 10:53 AM

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But this is a #zigbee-archived discussion.

little sentinel Jul 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

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was a device discussion now ill move on to next channel! 😂

gritty zinc Jul 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

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If you're talking about a device which doesn't have a more specific channel, it goes here.

severe mortar Jul 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

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there's plenty of brands who are bt + wifi tho, not only xiaomi 🙂

gritty zinc Jul 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

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ZigBee/Z-Wave/cameras... all have more specific channels.

severe mortar Jul 17, 2020, 10:56 AM

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ot, I posted a question on keyring in "other", is that the right channel? can't find anything more appropriate

gritty zinc Jul 17, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Do you mean the keyring on the OS that saves security credentials? If so, ask in the relevant installation channel.

bright jacinthBOT Jul 17, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Not sure which install you're using?

If you're using HassOS, flashed an image, or booted a VM with an image you're using #330990055533576204
If you installed Linux and then ran a script to install HA and have add-ons then you have #330944238910963714
If you're running docker commands or use a Docker manager and have no add-ons then you have #449717345808547842
Finally, if you use pip to install or upgrade you have #551864459891703809

Having difficulty chosing an install method? See this blog post for guidance.

sullen iris Jul 17, 2020, 11:31 AM

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Hi I live in the USA. I have a old house with no ground or neutral. Can I use any smart switches? Not picky on what system it uses just need to be able to have a smart switch

gritty zinc Jul 17, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Do your light switches only have a live and a switched live?

sullen iris Jul 17, 2020, 11:34 AM

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correct

gritty zinc Jul 17, 2020, 11:35 AM

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You'll still have options but you'll want to look for smart switches advertised as 'no neutral'.

sullen iris Jul 17, 2020, 11:36 AM

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Ok they will work just fine? What confused me is that some people said that it still needed ground if it says no neutral.

gritty zinc Jul 17, 2020, 11:37 AM

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I'm not familiar with US wiring. UK wiring doesn't usually have a ground connection for the switch circuit itself, except to ground the backbox in case of shorts.

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If you post a little more information, hopefully someone in the US can give suggestions:

bright jacinthBOT Jul 17, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

Which country you're in
What your budget is
What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

sullen iris Jul 17, 2020, 11:38 AM

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I am not sure what else to say :). The wiring is so bad that both wires are black. I will have to use a meter to see what is what.

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It does have modern breakers though.

gritty zinc Jul 17, 2020, 11:40 AM

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The bits from the bot post are a great start

sullen iris Jul 17, 2020, 11:42 AM

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I guess I live in the USA. No budget(can't be picky if options are limited with out ground/netural) Don't care on protocol I will buy what ever is needed to get it working with home asst. Not picky on features at this point I just want to turn it on or off at a min.

fringe moon Jul 17, 2020, 11:54 AM

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You can still use wireless smart switches

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Next to the actual switch, or over the switch

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You get 3d printed holders that go over buttons

amber frost Jul 17, 2020, 11:57 AM

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is there a way to set up a sensor to hold a date/time value? I know it sounds corny but I want to include a button on my UI that I can press when my dog goes outside to poop... so I can look at the screen and determine the last time she pooped so I know when to expect her to go again... #DontJudgeMe 😄

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if there's a better channel to ask that question in, let me know.

fringe moon Jul 17, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Last triggered on an input Boolean @amber frost doable with #templates-archived and #frontend-archived

amber frost Jul 17, 2020, 12:02 PM

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perfect! Don't really understand templates yet... next on my "to learn" list

sullen iris Jul 17, 2020, 12:05 PM

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@fringe moon Thank you for that. Do you have any example products?

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https://www.amazon.com/Lutron-Aurora-Dimmer-Philips-Z3-1BRL-WH-L0-2/dp/B07Z6RFQ35/

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DO you mean something like this and just go with smart bulbs?

fringe moon Jul 17, 2020, 12:08 PM

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https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&biw=414&bih=780&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=smart+button+cover+3d+printed&oq=smart+button+cover+3d+printed&aqs=mobile-gws-lite..#imgrc=ZU8n0njO3jvlaM

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That will work too

sullen iris Jul 17, 2020, 12:09 PM

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You know what I think I will do that. Seems the safer bet. Thanks a lot for your help @fringe moon

drifting grove Jul 17, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Hi, is there a way to stop my heiman hs2wd-e flashing and screaming from homeassistant? 😦 I've found this reply, but dind't know how to do that from ha: https://github.com/dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin/issues/565#issuecomment-385235131

winged knoll Jul 17, 2020, 1:55 PM

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You may want to ask the #zigbee-archived experts

hushed moth Jul 17, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Does someone know if the aqara motion sensors report correct battery? I've a few of them, some that are in use for over 2 months and they still report 100% battery

gritty zinc Jul 17, 2020, 4:57 PM

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They're a #zigbee-archived device, right?

winged knoll Jul 17, 2020, 4:58 PM

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See #zigbee-archived and provide the answer to the question in the topic there 😉

glossy prism Jul 17, 2020, 4:58 PM

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#bigzee

winged knoll Jul 17, 2020, 4:58 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/zorro-sword-slash-gif-14863752

Tenor

rugged heron Jul 17, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Is there a way to flash firmware on this MagicHome LED controller OTA or do I have to open it up and solder serial connections to flash my own? https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07L5CX8F9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_T4EeFb6NZVT0X

winged knoll Jul 17, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I'd ask in #diy-archived since it's in their kind of territory

rugged heron Jul 17, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Got it, thanks 🙂

nova vortex Jul 17, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Hi folks! I'm looking to get some sort of device to act as a central control panel / dashboard for my instance. Do you have any recommendations? Something like an old iPad could work... But I feel like they aren't super well suited to being plugged in all the time and wall mounted.

iron sable Jul 17, 2020, 9:04 PM

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you might use an android tablet with removed battery, connected to power supply

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or even ipad in kiosk mode i guess

nova vortex Jul 17, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Hmm. I've heard horror stories with an iPad plugged in indefinitely. But maybe those were just anecdotal.

cerulean trail Jul 17, 2020, 10:17 PM

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My iPad mini has been plugged in without a break with the screen allways on for almost 3 years now

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pretty sure the battery is almost dead on it, but it does not matter

nova vortex Jul 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Good to know!

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I have an old iPad that gets little use so I'll probably start with that.

tight rose Jul 17, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I've seen a lot of instances running on Lenovo pads as well

iron sable Jul 17, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Also you can remove the battery, hook up a step down converter from 5v to 3.7v and connect it to iPad’s battery connector.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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@cerulean trail I think iPads detect when it's plugged in 24/7 and changes how it handles charging the battery

bright jacinthBOT Jul 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Ludeeus is away for 3h 14m 52s with a message :point_right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ItHLz5WEA

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:08 AM

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@prime granite I'd recommend getting a #zigbee-archived and/or #zwave-archived stick instead of a smartthings hub. The smartthings integration is cloud based, but a Zigbee/zwave stick works locally

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(see those channels for details on that)

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Hey everyone! I'm buying my first house at the end of the month, and I'm extremely excited to have a place to make "Smart". The first thing I'm doing is installing new deadbolts on the house. I'm looking at kwikset 916's as they're whats suggested on The Hook Up. I don't have the money to build out a ubiquity home networks so I'm trying to stick with some z-wave or zigbee stuff. I was thinking about buying the smart things hub and implementing that into my home assistant platform. Is it better to use something like smartthings, or build out a diy zigbee/z-wave system? I'm also thinking about buying wyze sensors for all the windows/doors on on our house. If I understand it correctly, you need at least 1 wyze camera to make the sensors work? I have like 1,001 questions regarding security systems, networks, other than the hook up are there any good resources? I've been reading through the forums. Any ways, I'm glad there's such a helpful community! If this isn't the right place for these questions, I'll happily delete this and go somewhere else.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Wyze sensors work locally with a custom component. You plug the wyze bridge into your home assistant machine

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Moved it over @glossy prism

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Why is Ubiquiti cost prohibitive? Are you talking from a network or their whole LED solution

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Their whole network setup seems cost prohibitive. The dream machine makes it seem more possible.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Did you see my response above Andrew?

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Yup! Thank you!

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Don't waste on the Dream Machine. Get you a few WAPs and you can run the controller in HA

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Yeah I just run unifi controller on my server

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I have an edgerouter x and unifi AP AC lite

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:12 AM

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If my mikrotik ever decides to die, getting a USG

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:13 AM

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So, in theory a couple WAP and my home assistant should allow me to do the same as something like Google Nest WIfi? The mesh network affect.

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Stay away from mesh IMO. Especially if you are building. Congrats on that BTW, bout to sell my house and looking to build

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Ha, sorry I wasn't clear. We're buying a 1949 house.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:15 AM

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nutButton

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Gotcha, for some reason i thought build...damn bourbon.

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Ha, bourbon will do that.

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The amount of bullshit you have to go through to buy a house makes me want to drink.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:16 AM

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But yeah. Don't get the smartthings hub

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The smartthings devices on the other hand are nice. I have a few of the buttons and water leak sensors paired to my Zigbee stick

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:17 AM

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LOL, closing had me in a mini panic attack. I don't get great range with my wyze sensors. Might want to look at Z sensors

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:17 AM

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I know there's a zigbee/z-wave channel, but any suggestions on the sticks or hubs?

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Check out the channel topics there 😛

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Willd o

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:18 AM

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You'll need to pick a Zigbee integration first, then choose your stick

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:18 AM

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The sellers wanted a 28 day closing. So it's been warp speed for the last 2 1/2 weeks.

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:19 AM

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get ready to sign your name 100 times 🙂

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Ugh yup

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Trying to figure the zigbee stuff out is going to be a headache it seems.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Y

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Options paralysis.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Heh, fair

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You can't really go wrong

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:23 AM

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I've always liked Z-Wave, but everyone has their preference

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Zigbee4lyfe

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I have both, but vast majority is zigbee

peak talon Jul 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Z-wave are expensive compared to Zigbee

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Yep

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Can I implement both? Or is it usually just one or the other?

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https://www.kwikset.com/products/detail/916-smartcode-traditional-electronic-deadbolt-with-z-wave-technology

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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you can do both

peak talon Jul 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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now you are walking on other side of the line called #zigbee-archived or #zwave-archived 🙂

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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totally different frequency

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Anyone have the lock mentioned above?

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I'd ask in #zwave-archived

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I'll be sure to direct you elsewhere soon after that 😛

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Okay, this which channel is going to take me a min. lol

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You could then redirect me to zigbee as they have that option to lol.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Lots of channels, but it's for the best

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Totally get it.

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This whole world has so many subsets of it.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:30 AM

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It really does

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:30 AM

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and once you get into HA, you start checking their integrations before you make purchases

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lol, the free platform has costed me a few $$'s

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Yeah, I was running HA for some of my lights but I didn't like buying the expensive smart bulbs so I kind of let that project die. My plans are to install shelly's on the light switches so I don't have to worry about buying the bulbs.

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I racked up on the wyze smart bulbs special they were running. Got a few cams & a lot of free bulbs

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:36 AM

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The sensor prices seem really reasonable.

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:37 AM

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just got to be careful of how big the house is. Their range is bad from my experience

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I have like 22 windows on the house, and 2 doors.

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It's about 1,400 square feet.

peak talon Jul 18, 2020, 4:38 AM

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22 windows for 1400 sqft - wow! you must use window sensors than

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:39 AM

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That's weird, I'd expect 915 MHz to have pretty decent range

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:41 AM

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I don't know if it's a lot of windows or not for the size of our house. It is really bright which is why we liked it.

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:41 AM

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2 story?

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Seems like a lot if it's one story

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Yeah, and some of them are the basement windows.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:42 AM

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O

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Nvm then

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:42 AM

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1 1/2 story

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:42 AM

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got pets?

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Yup, 2 cats and a dog.

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:44 AM

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instead of getting contacts on each window, I'd find some pet immune motion sensors. Save the sensors for the doors and even the smartlock should take care of that

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:46 AM

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That's what I liked about the wyze stuff, I could get a motion sensor for each room and the window/door sensor affordably. I was hoping to use the motion sensor and some automation with the shelly's to flick on the lights.

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:47 AM

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grab a few and test em out. I like my wyze sensors, but there is some lag. Especially if you use their service

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Gotta use that custom component boi

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Local control

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:48 AM

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drives me nuts they don't open their API for integrations

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Supa fast

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boi

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Any suggestions on smart smoke/carbon monoxide detectors?

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I have the ZCOMBO, seems to work fine

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Except for it completely dropping off the network the other day

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(zwave)

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:50 AM

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i got sucked into the Nest when i got my house. Regret it ever since

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Those are the ones I have on my to buy list.

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The ZCOMBO ones.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:51 AM

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It was a bitch to get properly paired

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:51 AM

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That's what the reviews have said about it.

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:51 AM

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But after a few tries it worked

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Just wear ear protection when you do it lol

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BEEP

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Sounds good. It looks like it has a stupid loud alarm?

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 4:52 AM

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I would certainly hope heh

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It takes AAs which is quite nice

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Fuck 9V

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:53 AM

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yeah, a calm alarm when I'm about to die isn't good

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Yeah, I'd like to learn how to hard wire something like that in but I have zero clue on wiring.

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If they made a version that was hard wired.

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:55 AM

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get some cable nuts and match the colors. Just kill the power first. My nest is hard wired with a common wire, was no biggie

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AC is more forgiving than DC

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 4:57 AM

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The next fun thing is getting internet out to my detached garage.

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 4:57 AM

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🙂 Ubiquiti PTP

prime granite Jul 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I wonder if there's conduit going from the house to the garage that I could snake Ethernet through. That would be super nice. I'm hoping to buy a CNC for my woodshop in the next few years, and having internet would be nice.

topaz meadow Jul 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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where can i ask about sonoff s26 sockets, i got some problems flashing it.

peak talon Jul 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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#diy-archived

dapper swift Jul 18, 2020, 5:56 AM

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@prime granite how far is the run. Thats not a fun run

late jackal Jul 18, 2020, 7:58 AM

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(please let me know if I should be asking this elsewhere... I'm fairly new here...)

winged knoll Jul 18, 2020, 7:58 AM

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That'd be an #integrations-archived topic since it's about your MQTT integration

late jackal Jul 18, 2020, 8:01 AM

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ok, thanks! (removed from here)

cobalt mulch Jul 18, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Hi guys anyone got some recommendations for motion, temperature and contact sensors that work well with HA?

fringe moon Jul 18, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Xiaomi Xiaomi Xiaomi

cobalt mulch Jul 18, 2020, 11:22 AM

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😄 thanks @fringe moon

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can they work without a hub?

gritty zinc Jul 18, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Yes

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Find out more at #zigbee-archived

cobalt mulch Jul 18, 2020, 11:31 AM

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thanks guys

finite dawn Jul 18, 2020, 1:19 PM

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hi, is Ikea TRADFRI motion sensor supported in HA ? E1745 https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/tradfri-wireless-motion-sensor-white-70429913/

gritty zinc Jul 18, 2020, 1:22 PM

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It's a ZigBee device. Check the topic in #zigbee-archived

scarlet pewter Jul 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Hi, I'm looking for some new smart lights. Currently I use yeelights but I've found they can be hit or miss in responding to service calls. Looking for bulbs that can do RGB and different colour temperatures and cost less than 20 GBP per bulb preferably. I've heard the IKEA Tradfri bulbs don't play nicely with hass so I'd prefer to stay away from those

winged knoll Jul 18, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Tradfri bulbs work fine with HA

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However...

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That'd be a topic for #zigbee-archived

peak talon Jul 18, 2020, 3:37 PM

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try Aqara ones - haven't found them in RGB but white ones with spectrum of color temp work very well with z2m

edgy mantle Jul 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Hi :) somebody know how to do factory reset to sesoo switch ?

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HA remember switch's name even i have a new tuya account

white badge Jul 18, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Can’t do presence detection with hitron coda anymore after rogers updated their fw version. Anybody else having this issue ?

brisk gale Jul 18, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Hey everyone, I've got a peculiar problem and no simple solution (besides connecting the wires together, plastering the hole and mounting a wireless switch).
I've got smart lights and wireless switches, but I've also got dumb switches present. Now, when someone turns the dumb switch off, the power gets cut to my Xiaomi lights, and they don't like that.
Does anyone know of a 2.4 or ZigBee switch that keeps the power on (at all times) but is mountable in standard European wall socket holes?
Thanks!

winged knoll Jul 18, 2020, 8:00 PM

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See the pinned messages in #zigbee-archived - but you can do that with any if you bypass the switch ablobgrimace

gritty zinc Jul 18, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Smart switch + smart bulb = 🤢

lunar delta Jul 18, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Roborock owners: Valetudo or Valetudo RE?

tight rose Jul 18, 2020, 9:31 PM

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@gritty zinc I was looking into doing that. Why not so good?

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 9:56 PM

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A smart switch cuts the power to whatever fixture is on the same circuit, but smart bulbs need to be powered all the time to work @tight rose

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So, it's smart switch + dumb bulb or dumb switch + smart bulb

zealous dune Jul 18, 2020, 9:56 PM

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but what if you... decouple the relay

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Ooooo true

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Tasmota makes that trivial

tight rose Jul 18, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Is that always the case? I thought some switches when turned "off" actually kept a minimal amount of power going

zealous dune Jul 18, 2020, 9:57 PM

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i use smart switches with bulbs, gotta have some handy dimming/color changing

tight rose Jul 18, 2020, 9:57 PM

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i.e. Inovelli or Zooz

zealous dune Jul 18, 2020, 9:58 PM

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depends a lot on the swich

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i have some zigbee ones where you have no choice, they simply cut power

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what kind of bulbs you got?

tight rose Jul 18, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Planning on getting Inovelli Ilumin

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Also pairing with Inovelli switches

zealous dune Jul 18, 2020, 10:00 PM

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yes but what kind of lights are they

tight rose Jul 18, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Not sure what you're asking. Z-wave Plus RGB, 800+ lumen

zealous dune Jul 18, 2020, 10:03 PM

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rgb is the important part

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you can always connect the live wire inside the switch box without going through the switch then control the bulb through HA

tight rose Jul 18, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Would that be instead of using a smart switch?

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Yup

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Well, you can power the smart switch still

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It just won't physically control anything

tight rose Jul 18, 2020, 10:06 PM

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The switch has the ability to do scenes. Is that not possible with that type of bulb?

zealous dune Jul 18, 2020, 10:06 PM

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smart remotes are even better

glossy prism Jul 18, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I like my Hue ones

zealous dune Jul 18, 2020, 10:07 PM

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if you use HA you can do scenes

tight rose Jul 18, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Yea, I have a Pi running HASS

zealous dune Jul 18, 2020, 10:08 PM

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HA does the scenes then, your controller just triggers them

wanton burrow Jul 18, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Hi. I've just orderd nodeMCU board with sensors. I'm looking also to buy lcd for nodeMCU. Can i program nodeMCU through yaml file to show sensors data? I'll be using esphome HA addon.

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Hm maybe I already found a solution: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/esphome-with-dht22-and-128x32-oled-display/148342/2

peak talon Jul 18, 2020, 11:31 PM

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yes. Anything you do in Esphome can be seamlessly ported over to HA. In fact using the Native API you can also directly expose the services defined in esphome to be directly invoked by HA

drifting grove Jul 19, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Where can I find the "domain" of the device?

glossy prism Jul 19, 2020, 2:35 AM

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@drifting grove domains are an entity concept. The domain of an entity ID is the part to the left of the period

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For example:

sensor.turtles

sensor is the domain

mighty magnet Jul 19, 2020, 2:52 AM

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anyone can help me with how to setup default Turn On color/values for lights?

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I have some RGBCCT lights, and their default color is RGB + Cool White all on, and I'm trying to default the RGB portion to off, and maybe default to warm white instead of Cool

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I see this https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/light/ but I'm confused about where I ... apply .... this light_profiles.csv

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and what fields I should put in this light_profiles.csv

winged knoll Jul 19, 2020, 8:00 AM

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That'd be #integrations-archived

bright jacinthBOT Jul 19, 2020, 11:05 AM

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The topic of this channel is:

Questions about a device (not their #integrations-archived with HA)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff.

Please use https://www.hastebin.com/ or https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs

wide ivy Jul 19, 2020, 11:07 AM

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@winged knoll where i can read how to work in this server? like execute .topic and etc?

winged knoll Jul 19, 2020, 11:08 AM

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#botspam and enter .help 😉

wide ivy Jul 19, 2020, 11:08 AM

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10x

twilit quartz Jul 19, 2020, 3:16 PM

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I am wondering if you guys could help me with identifying the right wiring for each port for the thermostat.

I recently bought a Zen Thermostat and here's a pic of the previous thermostat's wiring

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Oh great, can't upload pictures here. Holdon

bright jacinthBOT Jul 19, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

twilit quartz Jul 19, 2020, 3:19 PM

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http://imgur.com/a/eWsEYQ5

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Zen thermostat's base: http://imgur.com/a/YordXZy

twilit quartz Jul 19, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Does anyone have any idea?

gritty zinc Jul 19, 2020, 3:43 PM

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They'll answer when they're ready. Have patience.

winged knoll Jul 19, 2020, 3:55 PM

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In theory... following the wiring plan for Nest or any other smart thermostat will match

twilit quartz Jul 19, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Yeah I think I got it wired correctly. Just trying to figure out why the wifi isnt appearing from the thermostat to continue the configuration.

twilit quartz Jul 19, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Nevermind, got it working with the zigbee stick. Thanks for the help guys

wispy pollen Jul 19, 2020, 6:40 PM

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apologies if this is the wrong place to ask, but looking for a recommendation for air purifier/fan combo that isn't a dyson...any recommendations appreciated

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ideally smart with HA integration, but at the least it should switch on via smart plug without the need for human interaction (we have an existing purifier that doesn't switch on without a manual press of a switch, for example)

gritty zinc Jul 19, 2020, 6:45 PM

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You're in the right place but should give a little more detail

bright jacinthBOT Jul 19, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

Which country you're in
What your budget is
What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

gritty zinc Jul 19, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Country and budget will normally narrow down your search nicely, and people will be able to give better suggestions.

wispy pollen Jul 19, 2020, 6:57 PM

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thanks @gritty zinc -

country - UK
budget - up to £500, but ideally around half that
protocols - wifi or zigbee/z-wave that works with a smartthings hub

slender silo Jul 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Does the motion sensor of IKEA always say detected at the occupancy entity?

winged knoll Jul 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Depends on how you integrated it with HA...

slender silo Jul 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Zigbee2MQTT

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I just made an automation and when i press execute, my lamp turns on. The motions detection sensor tells me detected in the love lace enviromen.

winged knoll Jul 19, 2020, 8:56 PM

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If you check devtools -> States you'll likely see that it's really on and off

slender silo Jul 19, 2020, 8:57 PM

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It is stated as on. I cant figure out why my automation isn't working the way it is supposed to do

winged knoll Jul 19, 2020, 9:00 PM

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That'd be a topic for #automations-archived and you'd need to use a code share site to share your automation 😉

slender silo Jul 19, 2020, 9:11 PM

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@winged knoll will post it there. What code share website do you recommend or is allowed?

bright jacinthBOT Jul 19, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Tinkerer is away for 7m 17s with a message :point_right: A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

hot tangle Jul 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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https://www.malighting.com/product/grandma3-full-size-4010500/ is it possible to use this with hassio? getting one delivered today

fringe moon Jul 20, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Dead link for me

sudden escarp Jul 20, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Hi there, what do the Home Assistant Community, prefer Zigbee or Wifi or is there not much difference. also has anyone had any joy or luck with or reviewed ZiGate
The ZigBee universal gateway

winged knoll Jul 20, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Zigbee all the way 😉

bright jacinthBOT Jul 20, 2020, 8:31 AM

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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI. It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively, with no native UI. It uses MQTT for control and configuration, but there are third party UIs. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

winged knoll Jul 20, 2020, 8:31 AM

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(see also #zigbee-archived)

winged knoll Jul 20, 2020, 10:02 AM

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@golden heath As I've said over on the other Discord - switches are on/off. You CANNOT "fade" with a switch

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If you want fade than you have to use a dimmer

golden heath Jul 20, 2020, 10:03 AM

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@winged knoll yes, I’m looking for help everywhere.

winged knoll Jul 20, 2020, 10:03 AM

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And still you seem to think switches can dim 😛

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More seriously...

bright jacinthBOT Jul 20, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

Which country you're in
What your budget is
What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

golden heath Jul 20, 2020, 10:04 AM

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So I would need a dimmer switch for bathrooms, hallways, entry, etc to be able to fade on/off from sensor triggers?

winged knoll Jul 20, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Well, you need a dimmer, in some form factor

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Then with HA you simply specify the transition, and it'll fade in and out

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Some devices may be configurable so that they also fade in/out when manually operated

golden heath Jul 20, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Which devices would those be?

winged knoll Jul 20, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Z-Wave certainly

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Can't speak for other protocols

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Though, not all devices will support it, and that's why the bot message above matters 😉

golden heath Jul 20, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Ok, thank you for your input

winged knoll Jul 20, 2020, 10:07 AM

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If you can answer the bot questions, others will be better able to answer you

golden heath Jul 20, 2020, 10:09 AM

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I’m currently in China, open budget (looking for value, reliability, aesthetics), Wifi? I currently don’t use a hub other than my homepod and a hue hub that I may just keep for outdoor lighting.

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https://dylan.lifebylee.com/automating-my-home-with-leviton-switches-prime-day-discount/

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Something like this type of feature. I am looking for some alternative choices of smart switches that can have this function.

earnest shadow Jul 20, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Don't suppose anybody here has messed around with Mirabella genio bulbs in Australia?

bright jacinthBOT Jul 20, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
Is the problem uniform or erratic?
What's the exact error message?
When did it arise?
What exactly don't you "get"?
Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?

earnest shadow Jul 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Specifically the rgbw one. I've tried the guide on the wiki, could flash successfully but the template on the wiki doesn't work, if I drag the sliders around I occasionally can get it to display a colour but it's like some random combo I haven't been able to crack yet :)

gritty zinc Jul 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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What are you flashing it with?

earnest shadow Jul 20, 2020, 12:31 PM

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generic tasmota as per https://tasmota.github.io/docs/devices/Mirabella-Genio-Bulb/#module-settings

gritty zinc Jul 20, 2020, 12:31 PM

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It sounds like maybe your template isn't right if the behaviour doesn't match.

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Might be worth asking on their Discord

bright jacinthBOT Jul 20, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Ready to use custom firmware for ESP8266 devices (including Sonoff)

Docs:
https://tasmota.github.io/docs/

Discord:
https://discord.gg/Ks2Kzd4

earnest shadow Jul 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

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yeah might give it a whirl, was hoping maybe i'd catch an aussie before bed who'd had a crack 🙂

bitter cloud Jul 20, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Hey all, Just installed Home Assistant, Version 0.112.4 on a Pi. Bought a Shelly to goof off with. Trying to get HACS to show Shelly for Hass but I don't see it when I search. Manually installed the files. Now I can see my Shelly but I'd really like to get HACS working correctly but I only see repositories from AppDeamon on it. Going to try Reinstall of HACS and see if it helps. Any other suggestions?

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Sorry wrong channel...

glacial elbow Jul 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Is it possible to extract and re-import Homekit devices from one instance of HA to another without a full snapshot restore? I managed to break my HASS installation without a recent backup, and ultimately re-installed to new hardware. I have the old running in a broken state, and just want to pull out 3 iHome smart plugs, which have their HomeKit pairing sticker worn off, so I don't know their code... I have the homekit_controller-entity-map that contains all the data, but just not sure if I'd need to manually edit another entity db to add them, or if there's a better way...

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At this point, if I can't figure out how to export/import, I'll probably just thrown them in the trash, and replace with $7 Tasmota plugs....

glossy prism Jul 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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you should see an entry for them in .storage/core.config_entries

glacial elbow Jul 20, 2020, 7:19 PM

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so just backup that file and then copy/paste those entries into the new system and restart?

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(or take a fresh snapshot)

glossy prism Jul 20, 2020, 7:20 PM

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or yeah, fix what's broken and take a snapshot

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this is #integrations-archived though

glacial elbow Jul 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I see them in that file. I just wasn't sure what "lights up the entity" in the system. I'll copy them over and give that a shot. Thanks! I was debating between device and integration....wasn't sure

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thanks for the info!

glacial elbow Jul 20, 2020, 7:50 PM

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@glossy prism - That worked perfectly. Thanks again!

twilit quartz Jul 20, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Has anyone used a Shelly 1 wifi relay for the garage door opener?

zealous dune Jul 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2gyzKcHbYfqoXA5xbyGXtQ

twilit quartz Jul 20, 2020, 11:17 PM

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ah perfect, thanks

polar tendon Jul 21, 2020, 7:15 AM

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i've got bn-link smart plugs on my washer and dryer. tuya convert'd. no problems so far

snow reef Jul 21, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Hello, is it possible to use customize.yaml to change the entity_id of a device to another one?

gritty zinc Jul 21, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Entity ID's are generated by the integration. You can change the friendly names.

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Also, a device isn't an entity. It's a logical grouping of entities, and isn't used by all #integrations-archived.

snow reef Jul 21, 2020, 10:29 AM

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If I disconnect and connect an integration

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Is there a way I keep the mapping between the entity id generated by integration

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and the friendly entity id

white hemlock Jul 21, 2020, 11:39 AM

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Looking for a Zigbee temp/humidity sensor, a hub (either wired or wireless), and an air quality monitor (PM2.5/VOC). Budget up to £100, would like to get from Amazon UK.
Maybe something like the SAMOTECH Tuya/SM310 Zigbee Hub for the hub

gritty zinc Jul 21, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Hubs? 🤢

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Either way, check the links in the topic of #zigbee-archived for supported devices.

white hemlock Jul 21, 2020, 12:18 PM

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I mean, I'd prefer pure wireless, but they seem to be bluetooth or hub-based only

gritty zinc Jul 21, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Just because something is advertised as requiring a hub, doesn't make it true. I'm sure Philips would love for you to only buy from the Hue ecosystem but there are plenty of people using a mix of products.

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Check out #zigbee-archived. There's a decent amount of info in the topic to get you started. You can use a whole load of different products from different brands with a cheap USB dongle instead of buying some overpriced hub and being both locked in to a vendor and having your data shared across the internet.

white hemlock Jul 21, 2020, 12:36 PM

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How does the usb dongle work? does it need to be plugged into the box running home assistant?

gritty zinc Jul 21, 2020, 12:36 PM

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#zigbee-archived

coarse breach Jul 21, 2020, 1:11 PM

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not sure if this belongs here, or #zwave-archived or elsewhere. I am buying a home and I would like a smartlock that integrates well with Home assistant (probably using z-wave as i've heard good things) but can I use them before I have my home assistant hub set up? also what brands/models work really well with HA?

safe galleon Jul 21, 2020, 2:55 PM

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@earnest shadow make sure you apply the template for it to take effect, and if you used the tuya-convert tool, make sure you update it via ota to the full build

tranquil nest Jul 21, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Anybody have recommendations or horror stories on automated blinds? I'm looking for zwave control, and also need new blinds themselves, so was going to look at an all-in-one solution rather than piecemeal. Any brands people like?

past canyon Jul 21, 2020, 8:01 PM

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does anyone have experience with Broadlink RM devices? I've been trying to learn the commands for an RF remote but I've been struggling to get the device to recognize the button presses

manic sand Jul 21, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Has anyone had an unpaired zigbee device control other devices that you don't want it to?

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I have a WXCJKG13LM that for some reason controlling my xiaomi curtains as well, it's not hooked into home assistant

verbal helm Jul 21, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I’ve been going across google for several hours now but i haven’t found a good solution yet. So here i am, hitting up discord and hoping i’m in the right channel haha.

I’m in the Netherlands and have just added a Google Home to my setup. I’ve been running some yeelight bulbs, and i want to add some strips here and there.

Preferably Wifi controlled, integratable with HA but also natively with Google Assistant.

I’m want to be able to fully control RGB (or even rgbw / rgbcct).

I know Yeelight has its own strips but they are quite expensive and not really modular..

What’s the best choice? I’m in the Netherlands but AliExpress is no problem. I can wait 😉

zealous dune Jul 21, 2020, 10:23 PM

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build your own, get a led controller, led strips and a power supply

verbal helm Jul 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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build your own, get a led controller, led strips and a power supply
@blakadder.com#8319 okey 🙂 let me be clear. The plan is indeed to “diy”. As in i have many (MANY) meters of RGB and RGBW 5050 strips from an old project. So i am looking for the controller that will work 🙂

true wasp Jul 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Hey, has anyone gotten SSD boot working via USB on a pi 4 with an eeprom upgrade?

zealous dune Jul 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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led controller and a sufficient power supply

true wasp Jul 21, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I bought one of those SSD hats and a smallish ssd but it doesn't seem to boot even after I made the eeprom mods

zealous dune Jul 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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are you looking for wifi or any other protocol?

verbal helm Jul 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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@zealous dune i dont have any hubs yet, but am willing to like add a zigbee hub if it makes things easier in the future 🙂

zealous dune Jul 21, 2020, 10:32 PM

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https://zigbee.blakadder.com/lights.html - led controllers are amongst other light device but control+f is your friend 😄

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here's some wifi options too https://templates.blakadder.com/light.html

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easies to start with would be Shelly

verbal helm Jul 21, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Well thank you! I’ll be having a closer look tomorrow morning. It’s past midnight here haha! Thanks!

safe galleon Jul 21, 2020, 11:37 PM

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blak use tasmota and an esp

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🙂

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powergamert i guess i mean

earnest shadow Jul 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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oh true that's a point, maybe my tuya convert is a bit old, will give a whirl thanks @safe galleon

earnest shadow Jul 22, 2020, 1:53 AM

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no change unfortunately 😦

earnest shadow Jul 22, 2020, 2:10 AM

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AH, there's a new template that came out recently I'd missed :)
https://templates.blakadder.com/mirabella_genio_I002608.html

fallow cape Jul 22, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Can someone shed some light on what I'm screwing up in my light group config? https://pastebin.com/THQj6pJD

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I'm getting 'mapping values are not allowed here' at the first entities line

copper condor Jul 22, 2020, 3:22 AM

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try unindenting entities and the lights by one maybe

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https://pastebin.com/TdEWd9Ta

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mine looks like that

fallow cape Jul 22, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Spaces shouldn't matter though I think missing the quotations marks around the name field might be causing an issue, hmm

copper condor Jul 22, 2020, 3:24 AM

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pretty sure spaces matter in YAML

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right?

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I know I've had issues with that before

fallow cape Jul 22, 2020, 3:27 AM

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That might've done it, config passes now.. also had some lingering tabs in the entity lines as well, oy. ty

copper condor Jul 22, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Awesome

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glad it worked

cold void Jul 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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I'm having trouble setting up a smartplug

upper stream Jul 22, 2020, 4:27 AM

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How do I make it so if I turn on a switch during the day it autmatically turns off>
I want to be able to use my outside lights at night but want them to be off all day even if someone turns them on

manic sand Jul 22, 2020, 4:37 AM

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@upper stream by switch do you mean an HA switch?

upper stream Jul 22, 2020, 4:38 AM

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@manic sand I mean a real z wave switch

manic sand Jul 22, 2020, 4:40 AM

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would turning all outside lights off at sunrise work for you?

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@upper stream and do you mean if someone turns them on during the day they get turned off right away

upper stream Jul 22, 2020, 4:43 AM

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It wouldnt becuase people sometimes turn them on during the day

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Yeah

manic sand Jul 22, 2020, 4:44 AM

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ok just checking

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go into automations and type in something like turn off lights at sunrise

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that'll get you started then you can add what lights you want to get turned off

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also hit the + to add an automation first

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the trigger in yaml is
platform: sun event: sunrise

upper stream Jul 22, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Ok did that

iron sable Jul 22, 2020, 7:59 AM

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but want them to be off all day even if someone turns them on

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do you want the automation to monitor it too?

manic sand Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 AM

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I suspect it was a mistype, that's why I asked about that as well

iron sable Jul 22, 2020, 8:02 AM

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oh right

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didn't read all above

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😗

obsidian pawn Jul 22, 2020, 8:07 AM

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hello, I've been reading for hours trying to know how to install i2c-tools in my HA raspi with no luck, can anyone tell me how to do this? I installed HA in a rpi 2 following the manual and I SSH into it using the addon but the i2cdetect command is not available and apt-get does not exist. I'm trying to test a new BME680 sensor I just installed in the Pi itself (no idea if it is working, hence I wanted to troubleshoot using i2cdetect)

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I think the issue is that the SSH seems to get me into the docker, not the rpi host

versed sonnet Jul 22, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Hi anyone familiar with Aqara P3 Air Conditioning Controller (new homekit one)?

drifting grove Jul 22, 2020, 8:24 AM

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Hello, I have an raspberry 3 b+ and since yesterday he wont boot to zhe end,...

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 8:39 AM

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@obsidian pawn If you installed from an image, you're not running a full version of Linux. It's a buildroot lacks many of the tools you may be familiar with. If you want 'power mode', use another installation method.

obsidian pawn Jul 22, 2020, 8:57 AM

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ah... damn it

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thanks for the reply @gritty zinc

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so... best method is to use raspbian and install manually ha?

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 8:58 AM

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I have no idea what's best for your situation. Often if you need to have some other software, there's an add-on for it.

obsidian pawn Jul 22, 2020, 8:59 AM

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I tried first using docker in a Synology nas but I found also many limitations like not having access to the add-ons and all documentation always points you to the add ons

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so I decided to use a rpi 2 and install it following the instructions

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I mean the image directly on the sd card

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I'm new to HA so my setup is quite simple, I have 2 smart plugs, 1 broadlink IR blaster and now I was trying to setup a BME680 board connected to the rpi

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which is the recommended installation method without all these limitations? raspbian + manual ha installation via apt-get?

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 9:03 AM

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Recommended would be not using a Pi. But honestly, there are so many ways to install it and they all have their merits.

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Check out the topics in the installation channels to see some of the differences.

storm peak Jul 22, 2020, 9:04 AM

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You can use add-ons in Synology (I'm using that)

obsidian pawn Jul 22, 2020, 9:04 AM

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for the very simple setup I have I prefer to start with the pi or docker, I don't think it is wise to spend 1000$ in a NUC or similar when I'm not sure I'll keep this system, it seems really complex to get it working

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@storm peak did you use the Docker installation or the "native" one that requires you to ssh into the synology and do some commands?

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the docker one did not have add-ons for me

storm peak Jul 22, 2020, 9:05 AM

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I used the one from the package centre, that one creates a bunch of docker containers

obsidian pawn Jul 22, 2020, 9:05 AM

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I'd rather have it in the synology than having another device (rpi) plugged to the electricity when the nas is 24/7

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did you follow any guide that you can share?

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 9:06 AM

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I spent $10 on an old machine my company were replacing 🤷‍♂️

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One of those small form factor HP workstations.

obsidian pawn Jul 22, 2020, 9:07 AM

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yeah, I consider that option, but I prefer to try first with the pi before spending any money. So far the experience is not good, I've invested an absurd amount of hours and I did not get very far

storm peak Jul 22, 2020, 9:08 AM

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@obsidian pawn https://youtu.be/QdBYUbj0B5Q?t=272

obsidian pawn Jul 22, 2020, 9:08 AM

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thanks!

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oh yeah, I saw that one

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 9:08 AM

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I'm running the image-based install too, if it helps. Works fine, you just don't want to run it on something low powered, nor off an SD card (which will die eventually)

storm peak Jul 22, 2020, 9:08 AM

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I have a question: I added octoprint in the configuration.yaml like described, but the settings/ sensors all show up as different entities, is there a way to merge them into 1 device (for easier overview)?
https://pastebin.com/f53mbhi7

obsidian pawn Jul 22, 2020, 9:09 AM

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yep, I'm aware of the sd card problem, but before setting up anything more hardcore, I want to test and see if I like it

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 9:09 AM

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That's an #integrations-archived question, thebakker 🙂

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(but no, you can't make devices)

mental cargo Jul 22, 2020, 9:16 AM

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@gritty zinc I would like to know how likly the SD-failure problem is in the real world. i mean - everybody agrees, that this happens. It's just that I have multiple Raspis running for years (oldest 3.5 years) day and night on SDs. Never had one failing. I know that this is no scientific result in any way. But still, am I only lucky?

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...or are there specific actions which make SD-Cards fail?

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Do you mean specific actions like running a database on an SD card and having constant reads and writes? 🤷‍♂️

mental cargo Jul 22, 2020, 10:38 AM

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yes. I mean obviously HA always has the db. But maybe there are huge differences how often there are I/Os

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 10:45 AM

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If I'm reading the code correctly, the recorder component can write to disk every second. And that's assuming you don't have other processes with disk I/O.

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86400 writes a day... that's gonna screw with an SD card pretty quickly.

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But it's a moot point. It's well-known that HA and SD cards don't mix, so there's nothing to argue here.

jovial pulsar Jul 22, 2020, 10:47 AM

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(10 000 000*pi times per year, roughly)

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 10:48 AM

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Flash memory indeed has limited write cycles. However, by now it is unlikely that you'll encounter this within the normal lifetime of such a card. Usually this is in the order of 100,000 write cycles today and SD cards include circuitry to manage wear-leveling, that is, spread out writes over the storage media evenly to avoid "hot spots"—pages that are written too frequently and therefore failing early.

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100k write cycles vs 10m writes per year... hmm.

mental cargo Jul 22, 2020, 10:54 AM

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sometimes it is not about arguing - it s about understanding 😉

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Well I hope this was helpful and that you understand now.

mental cargo Jul 22, 2020, 11:08 AM

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cool

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thanks

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I might even find a way to crash test different sds in the future

steady karma Jul 22, 2020, 11:34 AM

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hi can some one tell me why i cant Preparing Home Assistant for the first time , have wait now 1 hour and it say up to 20 min

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 11:56 AM

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No crossposting, thanks. Ask in one place, wait for an answer.

quartz berry Jul 22, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Question on device types. I have a couple of zigbee centralite smart plugs which are showing up in home assistant as lights... any way to change that? My search foo is coming up with nada.

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"manufacturer": "CentraLite",
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"model": "4257050-RZHAC",
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"class": "zigpy.device.Device"

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 2:33 PM

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okay so I think it would be here to ask.. how do you change a devices or entities area.. like its assigned to one area but you move the device and want it to be in that "new"area?

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nm i think i found it

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Just because something is advertised as requiring a hub, doesn't make it true. I'm sure Philips would love for you to only buy from the Hue ecosystem but there are plenty of people using a mix of products.
@gritty zinc there is some benefits to a hub over a stick, any devices in a hub is exposed over https for free on most compatile smart systems

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Automatically exposing things to the internet = bad

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Full control of your home automation = good

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:03 PM

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most automatically go pay for nabacasa for it

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$5 per month

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Most? Bold claim.

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:04 PM

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3 options, pay nabacasa or not bothered about google home/alexa exposure, or brave ones who want to tinkering with the long winded method that is forever changing

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 3:05 PM

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I think most people here are willing and capable to learn how HA works. It's not difficult.

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You're free to do things your way but please don't make HA sound more complicated than it is.

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:06 PM

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not talking about HA, talking about the free method of exposing entities to google home/alexa

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Not everyone wants it linked to Google/Alexa. That's personal preference.

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Many people choose to avoid cloud completely.

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:07 PM

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yes I get that, but thats why I say there is some benefit to hubs over usb dongles

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:08 PM

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but then theres the Con to hubs over USB stick

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:08 PM

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course

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Nothing that can be done with hubs can't be done without them.

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Local control

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Hubs bring so many limitations and security implications.

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If someone wants plug and play, sure, suggest a hub.

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:08 PM

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I went from Wink to a USB dongle

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 3:09 PM

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But the people that want plug and play likely aren't the same people that went to the effort of setting up HA.

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:10 PM

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I personally do both, Deconz for dimmers, buttons and motion sensors, but I have all my lightbulbs on my hue hub as the hub keeps the lights available for voice control for free

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:11 PM

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but is your HUE hub local control?

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so if the internet goes out do you still have control?

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:11 PM

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local polling

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so yes my motion sensors and dimmers still work/ and my mobile

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:12 PM

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but your lightbulbs

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I ask .. because I do.

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:13 PM

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if internet goes down then ha can still commuinicate with the hue hub yes

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:13 PM

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interesting..

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didnt know Hue offered Local

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Wink did not

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you had to "hack" the device

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:14 PM

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local polling is no good state changes though

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for light bulbs local polling is fine

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:14 PM

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most of my devices are WIFI

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off cloud local access

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Local Polling < Local Push

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If your doing automations in home assistant the trigger device will want be using a service that uses local push, this is because HA needs to know as soon as the state changes

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:17 PM

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through Mqtt it does that local push

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:17 PM

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I had hue dimmers on phillips hue but it would take 3-4 seconds before HA would be told that it was pressed

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so I move the hue dimmers to deconz that does local push

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:17 PM

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as well as me telling the device when I first connected it to do it

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:17 PM

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can keep the bulbs on hue hub as that is not used as triggers

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:18 PM

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and thats why I moved to WIFI

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I have a couple of lights on my system that are triggers

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:18 PM

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what do you do for wall dimmers/buttons?

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:18 PM

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mostly wifi

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i have a couple that are Zwave

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:19 PM

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wifi dimmers/buttons?

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:19 PM

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yup

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:19 PM

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like what

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brand name?

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:19 PM

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i got them from amazon... and have flashed them to be off the cloud

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also tplink does make them

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the Kasa collection

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i started with those..

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Realgandy

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@grizzled finch

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:21 PM

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automation section most likely realgandy

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raven, i can't find any wifi buttons in the uk can you find link to what you use

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curios

old warren Jul 22, 2020, 3:21 PM

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you have to disable the entity

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oh wow yea there are alot in the UK

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im gonna pm you

tidal grotto Jul 22, 2020, 3:22 PM

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I use these so they go over the existing light switches - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Homegoo-Dimmable-Wireless-Standard-Converter/dp/B07PY5ZB2S/ref=pd_lpo_201_t_1/261-1381189-8136203?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07PY5ZB2S&pd_rd_r=ffacf5cf-ab73-4206-bba9-ba39d1191fba&pd_rd_w=0QWp4&pd_rd_wg=nmgZ5&pf_rd_p=7b8e3b03-1439-4489-abd4-4a138cf4eca6&pf_rd_r=NPTV6VW4M3GEAXEP7HF4&psc=1&refRID=NPTV6VW4M3GEAXEP7HF4

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 6:15 PM

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im kind of new to node mcu, etc. is it normal that the first node mcu i bought i think it was a wemo d1 mini, it worked instantly when i plugged it into windows, got a serial port and everything. now i bought another node mcu from amazon and the serial port is not automatically setup and it looks like i need to go hunt down the drivers but i just want to make sure that is normal first. i would have thought all node mcu boards use the same serial chip? i just want to make sure i didnt get scammed with some fake clone or something

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perhaps each company who makes node mcu's uses their own serial chip

zealous dune Jul 22, 2020, 6:25 PM

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there are two serial chips used: cp2102 and ch340g so you're probably missing drivers for one of those

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and a sidebar nodmcu =! wemos d1 mini

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 6:26 PM

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blakadder: yeah i just installed the silabs driverss for cp2102 and now its working. i just was worried i got some kind of fake clone or something.

zealous dune Jul 22, 2020, 6:26 PM

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you did 😄

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likelikehood you got an original wemos/lolin board is small

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 6:27 PM

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yep you are right

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IZOKEE D1 Mini NodeMcu Lua 4M Bytes WLAN WiFi Internet Development Board Base on ESP8266 ESP-12F for Arduino, 100% Compatible with WeMos D1 Mini (Pack

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MakerFocus 2pcs ESP8266 NodeMCU LUA CP2102 ESP-12E Internet WiFi Development Board Serial Wireless Module Internet for Arduino IDE/Micropython with Fr

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those are the 2

zealous dune Jul 22, 2020, 6:28 PM

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they all use the same wifi chip

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 6:28 PM

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the d1 mini is a clone

zealous dune Jul 22, 2020, 6:28 PM

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only difference is d1 mini clones have weak voltage regulators

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 6:28 PM

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so basically esp8266 is what they all have in common, but then how that chip is packaged is what is different?

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these things are so cool i wish i got into this years ago

zealous dune Jul 22, 2020, 6:32 PM

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haha, i thought the same 2 years ago

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 6:32 PM

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the possibilities are endless

zealous dune Jul 22, 2020, 6:33 PM

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its a deep rabbit hole to go into

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next you know you're exploring diy battery pack building and solar systems

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 6:33 PM

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oh i am already fully into that lol

zealous dune Jul 22, 2020, 6:33 PM

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ah, you're coming from the other side 😄

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 6:33 PM

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i have a DIY powerwall setup in my basement

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but it uses SLA currently

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im waiting for lifepo4 to come down in price still

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im too paranoid to use lithium ion in my basement

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next i want to put solar panels on my shed and pipe that power into my DIY powerwall

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in my area you need heavy permits for anything solar related but if its an "off grid" system on a shed, i think i can get away with it

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i watch all these YT videos and i am like how the hell are these guys getting away with installing all this solar stuff with no permits and inspections

zealous dune Jul 22, 2020, 6:39 PM

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depends on the country

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in our counry common way of dealing with that is "if they don't know about it it's fine"

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 6:41 PM

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problem is i live in a pretty populated area, so its real obvious if i do anything

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Im currently working on this project: https://github.com/thehookup/Motorized_MQTT_Blinds

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its why i am messing with the nodemcu currently

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i wish i knew about this before i spent hundreds on shtity blind motorss that are terrible

zealous dune Jul 22, 2020, 6:48 PM

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good project for messing with

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 6:49 PM

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im amazed at how simple the code is

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i guess all these libs do the heavy lifting

frank mica Jul 22, 2020, 7:16 PM

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this is so cool, i have zero experience with these things and in 10 minutes i am controlling the LED light on the nodemcu with mqtt

quartz meteor Jul 22, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Hello everyone, is there any way to play music via bluetooth samsung soundbar ?

pearl kestrel Jul 22, 2020, 9:06 PM

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is this the right place for this question? anybody have a skybell? I switched from Virtual Machine to Ubuntu Server, and can't get my skybell to connect? My credentials are correct in the configuration.yaml

gritty zinc Jul 22, 2020, 9:09 PM

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If it's about the device itself, ask here. If it's about an #integrations-archived with a device, ask there.

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And if you head over there, you'll notice someone with a very similar question to yours 😉

pearl kestrel Jul 22, 2020, 9:16 PM

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thank you!

winter hill Jul 22, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Anyone have a genius way to export a list of all entities from Home Assistant into a CSV file or something?

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Found this, but cannot get it to work. Ideas? https://community.home-assistant.io/t/export-entity-names/206262

dark steeple Jul 22, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Hi all, i get an error by adding a device with entity over MQTT discovery (https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/mqtt/discovery/)
topic: homeassistant/sensor/energyCounterIn/config

{
    "device": {
        "manufacturer":"PAF",
        "model":"PAF5EC3gr00006",
        "sw_version":"1.27",
        "name":"Energy Counter"
    },
    "icon": "mdi:counter",
    "name": "Consumption",
    "state_topic": "homeassistant/sensor/energyCounter/state",
    "unique_id": "energy_total_consumption",
    "unit_of_measurement": "kWh",
    "value_template": "{{value_json.total_consumption}}"
}

Error: Exception in async_discover_sensor when dispatching 'mqtt_discovery_new_sensor_mqtt'. Someone know where is the problem?

fluid solar Jul 22, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Just seen Drzz’s video on flashing a Sonoff Rf bridge with openmqttgateway for better command messaging vs tasmota, is that still good advice or has tasmota improved in that regard - 2 week old HA newbie so I want the coding to be simple right now.

manic sand Jul 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

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@frank mica it's even easier with esphome

naive nacelle Jul 23, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Somewhat random hardware related question: anyone know what PWM frequency Hue smart bulbs run at, and if it can be increased?

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I keep catching the PWM flicker when they're dimmed, and it's annoying

fallow cape Jul 23, 2020, 3:15 AM

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1 khz apparently - https://www.reddit.com/r/Hue/comments/duadv4/pwm_flicker_with_hue/

naive nacelle Jul 23, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Super, I can see a 1 khz flicker... That's annoying

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@fallow cape Thanks for finding that. Guess it's time to hunt down a smart bulb that's 30+ khz

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Or one that uses analog dimming

fallow cape Jul 23, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Does anyone have a suggestion for a cheap venetian blind motor that talks either zigbee or wifi?

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I saw @frank mica mention having bought bad ones, so ones to avoid would be useful too 😉

torpid gull Jul 23, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Hello! Has anyone been able to get HA to put the Sonos Arc back into TV mode after music?

frank mica Jul 23, 2020, 5:21 AM

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@fallow cape i have iblinds which are zwave and they are ok but i wouldnt spend my money on them again

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but they are slat blinds, are venetian the ones that hang vertical?

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i am currently working on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O_1gUFumQM

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i wish i did this from the start

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the iblinds have lots of issues, especially with HA

fallow cape Jul 23, 2020, 5:24 AM

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ty 🙂 I've seen that video before but I'm not quite interested in that level of DIY in this case. 😄

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I have a 3d printer though and am familiar enough with stepper motors.. it's probably the best bet, really

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Oh hey, what do you know, that person just put out a new video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4BcvlIQTuI

frank mica Jul 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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those options might work for you

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venetian is the vertical slats?

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oh nvm i just google it and they are the same as mine

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i thought they were the vertical type for some reason

fallow cape Jul 23, 2020, 5:40 AM

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'regular blinds' I guess

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But locally I've seen them called venetian blinds 🙂

frank mica Jul 23, 2020, 5:41 AM

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i have mysmartblinds which are great hardware but horrible software/firmware

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they are good only if you want to set a schedule and thats it, forget controlling it from HA or any controller

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iblinds are zwave but their firmware is also shit and they have lots of quirks and issues

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for example in HA, you cant get the position of the blinds

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also really expensive, both of them are like $150 per blind

fallow cape Jul 23, 2020, 5:42 AM

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I've seen mysmartblinds on amazon but they're always out of stock in Canada

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And yeah $150 is a lot

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I'd probably have already ordered one of these $40 motors that need a wifi bridge except I don't want to pay $20 for shipping 😄

frank mica Jul 23, 2020, 5:46 AM

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the reason i am doing the DIY setup is all the existing solutions suck lol

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none of them are great

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probably iblinds is the best of them though

fallow cape Jul 23, 2020, 5:47 AM

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I'm not entirely sure if any of these would be compatible with my existing blinds though, not sure what this kind of cord is called but you pull it to pull the blinds up and the cord rests on the floor

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It's not just a fixed length rope

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..actually I forgot that the two sides of the cord are tied together on the blind closest to me, so it's just a regular pull cord haha

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...oh right, I'm reminded that most of these are actually for open/closing blinds, when I'm wanting to lift or lower the blinds

twilit quartz Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Has anyone flashed Tasmota on these devices? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076F52NQD/ref=crt_ewc_title_huc_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2K4DGCC72N9AG

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They are still ESP8266 base, but I just want to confirm that its still possible before I order some of them

fallow cape Jul 23, 2020, 2:09 PM

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@twilit quartz I see a review on amazon.ca mentioning that they are and it's working great

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Works great. I set it up with tasmota firmware and working great controlling a relay using home assistant

twilit quartz Jul 23, 2020, 2:10 PM

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oh should've read the reviews lol. Thanks!

zealous dune Jul 23, 2020, 2:10 PM

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all development boards can be flashed with tasmota

twilit quartz Jul 23, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Oh nice, thanks sir!

pearl kestrel Jul 23, 2020, 4:51 PM

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I have 1 zwave bulb that I've been testing, and it is a bit finiky. The HA homepage shows the light on when it is off and if I use the dimmer slider, sometimes leaves the bulb at 1%, do you know anything about that?

golden frost Jul 23, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Hi. I upgraded to 0.113 last night, and since, whenever I restart I lose zigbee devices (connected via zigbee2mqtt). They just shows in HA as non-available. I can see in the z2m log that upon restart the status of all of the switches and lights are being sent whenever HA restarts. And yet they show as unavailable.
Anyone else seen this issue? once a device shows as unavailable, it won't ever show up online in HA until I remove the switch/light and re-pair it.

scarlet pewter Jul 24, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Does anyone know the proper process to put Philips hue white/colour bulbs into pairing mode?? I'm trying to connect them with ZHA if that makes a difference, so no hub

copper condor Jul 24, 2020, 1:18 AM

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maybe try this? https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/9290022169.html

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are you using zigbee2mqtt?

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if not I think you need the bridge

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oh you said ZHA sorry

twilit bobcat Jul 24, 2020, 1:20 AM

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@scarlet pewter if they have been previously added to hue, simply removing them from the hue app will put them in pairing mode. if that fails you can reset them manually using a hue dimmer and holding the on and off buttons close to the bulb for about 10 seconds. the bulb will flash twice and then come back on and it is factory reset

scarlet pewter Jul 24, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Ah right. I don't have a dimmer but I got a hub/bridge with the bundle that I can use to get them set up with if only to put them into pairing mode

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Thanks!

twilit bobcat Jul 24, 2020, 1:22 AM

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they should be in pairing mode immediately when powered on whenever they arent already included in a zigbee network

scarlet pewter Jul 24, 2020, 1:22 AM

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They didn't appear to be, but I don't know what they look like in pairing mode. ZHA didn't pick them up, even after a few scans

twilit bobcat Jul 24, 2020, 1:22 AM

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i have tons of them and mostly they work great but sometimes they can be finicky. thats when the dimmer comes in handy

scarlet pewter Jul 24, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Someone suggested turning them off and on again like 8 times 🤷‍♀️

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Which didn't work for me haha

twilit bobcat Jul 24, 2020, 1:23 AM

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yeah that works for some bulbs but thats manufacturer specific. only thing ive seen that will override it for hue is the dimmer switch

scarlet pewter Jul 24, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Ah right

twilit bobcat Jul 24, 2020, 1:23 AM

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which isnt expensive and can also be used with zha, just fyi

scarlet pewter Jul 24, 2020, 1:24 AM

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I know for yeelights you can click them on and off 5 times and then they'll go rainbow and then you know they're in pairing mode

twilit bobcat Jul 24, 2020, 1:24 AM

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yeah same for cree

scarlet pewter Jul 24, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I may pick up a dimmer if it simplifies the pairing process, but the app method seems fairly straightforward

twilit bobcat Jul 24, 2020, 1:25 AM

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another thing is sometimes it might take several tries to find, and sometimes ive discovered that the bulb did actually add and just never showed me the card. make sure its not in your device list

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id also recommend only trying one at a time.

scarlet pewter Jul 24, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Yeah I've definitely seen that before with other devices haha, I did check the device list fwiw

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Alrighty, I'll try that in the morning. Thanks again!

twilit bobcat Jul 24, 2020, 1:26 AM

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np, good luck. they can be annoying lol

pliant geode Jul 24, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Anyone know of a way to get yeelight flashed so it used local connections? From my understanding it doesn’t have esp8266 so tasmota won’t work, curious if anyone knows anything that would work?

fast bane Jul 24, 2020, 5:28 AM

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@pliant geode Once you enable LAN from the app it communicates directly to Home Assistant without cloud, you can disable the outbound connection if you like, but the telemetry is actually pretty limited.

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So enabling LAN from the app means the yeelight no longer needs xiaomi servers for control or interface

cloud sedge Jul 24, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Hi all.
I have an entity called sensor.power_metre
Every minute a esphome device updates it with how much power was used in the last minute.
The problem i'm finding is that home assistant doesn't write to db if it has 2 of the same value in a row.
Any way i can get around this?

gritty zinc Jul 24, 2020, 8:04 AM

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How did you set up the sensor in HA?

cloud sedge Jul 24, 2020, 8:05 AM

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with the esphome intergration.

gritty zinc Jul 24, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Then I don't think you can. If the entity hasn't changed, there's nothing to record.

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Is that the full problem? What are you trying to do with the data?

cloud sedge Jul 24, 2020, 8:07 AM

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work out the total power used per hour ie the sum of all records within an hour

gritty zinc Jul 24, 2020, 8:07 AM

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So total energy. In that case, it's not going to be a simple sum, it's going to be an integration.

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There's an integration integration for that. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/integration/

cloud sedge Jul 24, 2020, 8:08 AM

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ah yes. cheers 🙂

gritty zinc Jul 24, 2020, 8:09 AM

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That page also has a note on how to deal with 'spikey' data. Might help with your problem of missing datapoints.

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Try the different options, see what gives the most sensible values.

pliant geode Jul 24, 2020, 1:58 PM

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@fast bane thanks, but you still need to pass the wifi credentials to the yeelight server, and there is no way of disconnecting from their server once you turn on LAN. Let me know if you have a workaround for that, the whole point is that I don’t want to pass my wifi creds to these remote servers

fast bane Jul 24, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Well I block outbound connections via a VLAN, but you will never be able to run custom firmware on the yeelights. If that is your intension look elsewhere. specifically go with something like zigbee so its not bound by wifi at all. Or replace the Marvell 88MW300 with something that can be reflashed with non proprietary binaries.

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@pliant geode

pliant geode Jul 24, 2020, 2:08 PM

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@fast bane Yeah I was thinking VLAN, but you can only block outbound once it’s already passed cred to the remote server right? Yeelight just has the best bang for you buck with the scenes and quality of brightness on RGB.

fast bane Jul 24, 2020, 3:15 PM

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@pliant geode I am not familiar enough with the protocol to tell you, but to me the attack vector of having wifi credentials is not of importance. To me the most important aspect is the yeelights themselves are isolated from my network once they have joined. This is achievable in my case by using a separate IoT network SSID. Telemetry is rather small and is blocked using VLANs. What is your concern with Wifi Credentials uploaded anyway? You really think there is a benefit to having these?

pliant geode Jul 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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@fast bane so within the VLAN you broadcast another SSID? Does that leverage the same pw as your LAN? That’s interesting, I’ll have to look into that, because I was thinking using my 5ghz ssid for the iot devices and 2.4 for my main. I guess now that I think about the frequencies, that’s basically the same as broadcasting a VLAN ssid! Just rather not have my creds pinged to a remote server that’s a big risk

past canyon Jul 24, 2020, 3:31 PM

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2.4 is better for IoT than 5 GHz

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Most IoT devices only do 2.4 to save on power

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2.4 is also more congested and slower, so it's better for low data devices like IoT

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I also employ the same solution as @fast bane , I have an IoT VLAN / SSID that blocks internet access

fast bane Jul 24, 2020, 3:35 PM

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@pliant geode On most enterprise/prosumer WIFI APs (i.e. Ubiquiti, Cisco etc.) you can broadcast multiple SSIDs (networks) on the same radio. You don't have to split them by frequency. i.e. I have IoT, Guest and Main and they all show up as different WIFI networks. (all on 2.4GHz and all on 5ghz)

gloomy oak Jul 24, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Does anyone know of a good place to get door sensors in Canada?

ancient quest Jul 24, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I'm looking for a wall mounted touchscreen for HA, what's everyone using?

gritty zinc Jul 24, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Velcro works well, especially if you have carpeted walls.

ancient quest Jul 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Heh, I was hoping for some models of some barebone tablets that work well with HA

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and stay on, can dim until someone walks by etc

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I suppose most go with Galaxy tablets or Amazon Fire tablets...I could have sworn that there were issues with the Amazon tablets and HA though, not as customizable

rotund oak Jul 25, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a smoke detector that has a working integration with HA for use in USA?

tidal grotto Jul 25, 2020, 11:00 AM

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When buying smart home products, what do you guys think will work for longer, a device that using the ''meross'' app or a tuya product? which one is likely to not shut off there servers first IMO... would this sway your purchasing decision on a product

golden frost Jul 25, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Hi. I have a few Hue devices I'm trying to add via zigbee2mqtt; and some of them are always showing as offline whenever HA is restarted. When I look at the payload sent by mqtt when HA is restarted, a message is sent for the device; however I noticed that a linkquality value isn't found in the payload.

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it's the only difference I can notice between the one working properly, and the ones HA thinks are offline upon restart.

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is this something that should be fixed by z2m or within HA?

drifting grove Jul 25, 2020, 2:10 PM

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@ancient quest I would get a used ipad so all the stuff could be in homekit.

toxic dust Jul 25, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Hi guys, I'm trying to add MagicHome wi-fi LED controllers, following the documentation. Discovery doesn't work but I've been able to add them manually by IP. The thing is that HASS adds them as read-only entities and doesn't create devices so I can't control them with automations and such. I also have the Homekit bridge setup and they do carry over as switches over there so I'm kind of puzzled on what I'm missing here?

gritty zinc Jul 25, 2020, 3:34 PM

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adds them as read-only entities and doesn't create devices so I can't control them with automations
Huh? You don't control devices, you control entities.

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 5:22 PM

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the gui can build device automations

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it's confusing for old-timers 🙂

oblique bear Jul 25, 2020, 5:38 PM

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ya thats somewhat new

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/device_automation

gritty zinc Jul 25, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I can understand device triggers... but device actions? You already have entities to control.

toxic dust Jul 25, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Sorry, newbie here and relying on the GUI a lot to get around. What probably confused me is that many "things" I added or were discovered by HASS automatically got a "entity" and a related "device" without me having to do anything. Adding on top of that that the only automation action "type" (again, in the GUI) that makes sense to me is "device" and that my LED controllers are not appearing in there and you got one confused fellow 🤔

gritty zinc Jul 25, 2020, 5:52 PM

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A device is just a logical grouping of entities. Imagine you have a wall switch that's actually got 3 switches on. The physical panel on your wall is a device but HA sees the 3 individual switches as entities.

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Not all integrations create a device. All integrations create entities.

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So if you're going to learn to work with only one, entities would be it.

toxic dust Jul 25, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Gotcha. But one cannot create a device manually?

gritty zinc Jul 25, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Nope

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Integrations create entities and (sometimes) devices. Try not to think of automations in the sense of controlling a physical 'thing'.

obsidian moth Jul 25, 2020, 7:12 PM

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on 0.113.1 where do I set the Area for a Device now?

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 7:16 PM

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I don't think it's changed, but it's not very intuitive

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from the device screen, hit the cog in the upper-right. allows renaming and setting the area

obsidian moth Jul 25, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Aah! Thank you! That's it.

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I think there's a plan to put a pencil next to the name, as the universe expects 🙂

obsidian moth Jul 25, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Yes, because it's not clear that the gear icon applies to the device as it's up in the menu bar.

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 7:22 PM

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it's been noted

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I think the last comment was something along the lines of "that's the last place I'd look for that..."

modest bramble Jul 25, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Would this be a good place to ask a generalize energy monitoring question?

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My question being, in the US what are folks using to do at home energy consumption monitoring? Is the trend to monitor just the mains? Are people going wild with smart plugs that also do energy monitoring?

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I'm just trying to decide if I should stock up on the Kasa HS110, or to invest into something like Sense or IotaWatt.

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 7:42 PM

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I just do it informally, but I used a combination of a smart meter (Eagle Rainforest) and plug-in modules in strategic locations

modest bramble Jul 25, 2020, 7:56 PM

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@gloomy spoke What's your experience with the Eagle Rainforest?

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I'm trying to figure out if it's worth asking me landlord to setup something in the utility room.

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I have the original one and it works great for what I need

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but like I said, it's just informal as a graph on my Lovelace dashboard

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it's been rock solid

modest bramble Jul 25, 2020, 7:57 PM

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What power company are you using it with?

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 7:58 PM

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options to capture and analyze data online have come and gone, so I just manage it locally

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SDG&E

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San Diego

modest bramble Jul 25, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Ah ok.

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I'm up in Oakland with PG&E.

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I like it because it ties into the meter and takes my solar production into account

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so I can see whether I'm above or below zero and by how much

modest bramble Jul 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Neat.

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What do you use for wall plugs?

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I really only use for one my washer/dryer to know when it starts/stops, and I've tried 3

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All of the ones I've tried are Z-Wave. The first was a cheap round plug from Amazon that couldn't handle the inrush current and kept failing. The second was an Enerwave outlet that would regularly just stop reporting or responding to Z-Wave. The last one is an Aeotec Smart Switch 6, and it's been great

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there are others that are cheaper that others have pointed out after I complained about mine

modest bramble Jul 25, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Jah.

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I'm a little annoyed to find out today TP-Link discontinued their little power monitor.

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 8:03 PM

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some get pretty chatty,

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that first plug reported constantly and none of the parameters worked

modest bramble Jul 25, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Heh.

gloomy spoke Jul 25, 2020, 8:04 PM

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keep an eye on anyone that you get

cobalt mulch Jul 25, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Anyone used Aqara devices with HA?

jovial pulsar Jul 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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some

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Via Deconz and a Conbee usb stick.

modest bramble Jul 26, 2020, 12:41 AM

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I have a pair of Aqara temp sensors I got working through a Vera Plus hub. I also bought their button but had trouble getting that working with my hub.

random finch Jul 26, 2020, 1:21 AM

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So, I have some automations where lights will transition from 100 to 0 over a 30 second period. However, this results in HA remembering the last brightness, essentially making the "on/off" switch on the dashboard useless, since it just turns it on to 1% brightness. Any way to configure those switches to set to 100%?

hushed moth Jul 26, 2020, 1:40 AM

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@cobalt mulch yes, 13 connected using zigbee2mqqt runnig on a CC2531 usb stick.

willow kiln Jul 26, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Just ordered a "Kogan Smart Blinds Driver" very interested to see if I can get this working with HA

gusty flame Jul 26, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Is this the right part of the server to get help with Arduino MQTT

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?

mental cargo Jul 26, 2020, 5:36 AM

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sounds like #diy-archived ?

desert forum Jul 26, 2020, 10:48 AM

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What is the best smart doorbell i can buy? Already searching alot what info the current ones give to HASS. Someone that has a suggestion?

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 10:56 AM

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Best is always subjective. Give a little more detail to help narrow it down

bright jacinthBOT Jul 26, 2020, 10:56 AM

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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

Which country you're in
What your budget is
What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

desert forum Jul 26, 2020, 10:57 AM

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@gritty zinc buying a house so i need a good doorbell. One with the ability to make automations 🙂

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 10:58 AM

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See the bot post. Provide that information. Even a dumb doorbell can be automated.

desert forum Jul 26, 2020, 10:59 AM

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EU, 300€ max, wifi, camera+automations based on bell press.

desert forum Jul 26, 2020, 11:31 AM

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I think about getting the Ring 3, but does anyone have a screenshot of all the sensors?

cobalt mulch Jul 26, 2020, 12:46 PM

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@cobalt mulch yes, 13 connected using zigbee2mqqt runnig on a CC2531 usb stick.
@hushed moth thanks man. Im running HA in docker not on a PI and I dont want tu be buying a hub to run these. Is this still doable?

undone viper Jul 26, 2020, 1:45 PM

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русские тут?

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 1:54 PM

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No, only English

hushed moth Jul 26, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Yes it is, there are a lot of tutorials online, you should be able to find one very easily. You can buy a CC2531 stick pre-flashed with zigbee2mqtt from aliexpres (sonoff sells one)

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One little note, I believe there are better options with better range / better overall stability but these options also cost more.

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 2:07 PM

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You can't really go wrong with a CC2531 as a starter stick. From there, it's simple to migrate to any other TI chip, including the newer zzh.

winter bronze Jul 26, 2020, 3:36 PM

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someone that got a cecotec conga (smart vacuum) working with hass? I sniffed the packets from my control app to the vacuum but I don't know yet how to implement the protocol... I'm trying to understand if it's xiaomi compatible...

so far I can get the vacuum working with tuya (smartlife) too, but there's no integration yet for smartlife vacuum on HASS
@trail sage hi ! i found this : it works for my cecotec 5090 https://github.com/adrigzr/badconga

dusk notch Jul 26, 2020, 5:26 PM

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does anyone have an recomendation for a wired temperature probe that i can attach to my HA?

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onewire does not work since i have a NUC based setup

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Probe as in sticking it into meat/water/etc or just a sensor for a room?

dusk notch Jul 26, 2020, 5:44 PM

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probe for sticking into a metal cabinett to measure the temperature in it

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orgininally i wanted to use a onewire based setup but since i'm on a NUC i dont have the GPIO pins

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also the USB interface DS9490R does not work due to the docker nature....

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i do have an arduino at hand but something simpler would be nice

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 5:50 PM

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If you're limited by the software, you might want to look at a #diy-archived solution. Lots of people have crafted cheap ESP-based devices, and they communicate well with HA.

dusk notch Jul 26, 2020, 5:51 PM

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mhm the sensor needs to be resistant to moisture, hence i'd like to avoid putting an ESP into the cabinett

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ok, seems i will have to build my own probe using a TMP36 attached to one of the analog inputs of the arduino -.-

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Well the ESP could go on the outside, with only the probe going inside. You just want the WiFi antenna to be outside so you're not putting it in what is essentially a Faraday cage.

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Much the same solution as your idea with the Arduino, just a cheaper piece of kit (couple of dollars each for an ESP).

dusk notch Jul 26, 2020, 5:54 PM

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hmmm ok that also sounds good... will think about it

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thnx!

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i already use an Arduino to operate some relais using the digital output

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probably i will try using the analog in first, if it fails i'll go the ESP route!

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still, the most sustainable solution would be if the onewire interfache would be working in the docker environment

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i wonder why this does not work since other addins / integrations (like the arduino) can work with USB accessories?

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Not a clue why that limitation exists, sorry.

little sentinel Jul 26, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Anyone got motion sensors?

gloomy spoke Jul 26, 2020, 8:12 PM

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nope, noone

little sentinel Jul 26, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Do they detect doors opening closing? or just people moving and grooving?

willow kiln Jul 26, 2020, 8:12 PM

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@desert forum ring doesn’t allow constant video. Always very delayed. I had instant regrets

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The detect motion @little sentinel

gloomy spoke Jul 26, 2020, 8:13 PM

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depends. many are looking for IR response, which requires heat moving around

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"passive IR"

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 8:15 PM

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They're great at detecting pets moving too.

gloomy spoke Jul 26, 2020, 8:16 PM

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if there's a temp change on the other side of the door, maybe. You'd have to see

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I had a problem with a motion sensor detecting a small pendulum clock, but only at certain times of the year when it would reflect the sun 🙂

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 8:17 PM

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I'd expect something would have to be radiating heat to be picked up. Warm bodies of air won't trigger it.

little sentinel Jul 26, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Ah okay so it detects any movement

gritty zinc Jul 26, 2020, 8:41 PM

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It depends...

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Passive IR picks up hot things moving. Active IR picks up all things moving.

little sentinel Jul 26, 2020, 8:45 PM

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woo

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got a passive one

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yippie

gloomy spoke Jul 26, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Some of the PIR models have a sensitivity level, but you’ll need to determine if your sensor sees the door moving in your room

mint edge Jul 27, 2020, 12:19 AM

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best devices to get started? I am just starting with home assistant. I have been using google home for about a year now and have some wifi devices (lights and plugs by C by GE, monster LED Strip, chromecasts) but it appears most of them don't work with HA.

US
Budget: $100 to start with
protocols: Wifi (don't have any zigbee or Z-Wave hubs, Unless HA can do that)

sullen quarry Jul 27, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Hi is it possible I can get nest products working with HA

mint edge Jul 27, 2020, 1:15 AM

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@sullen quarry this might be what your looking for but best under integrations https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/nest/

harsh portal Jul 27, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Those are useless if you dont' have a works with nest development key

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You can use "badnest" though to get some basic functionality

sullen quarry Jul 27, 2020, 1:24 AM

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is badnest working today?

harsh portal Jul 27, 2020, 1:36 AM

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i dont have it enabled currently, so I can't answer

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i'm about to replace all my nest thermostats with something else

mint edge Jul 27, 2020, 1:45 AM

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What are you replacing them with?

harsh portal Jul 27, 2020, 1:49 AM

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i haven't pulled the trigger yet, but i'm leaning twoards venstar t7900

mint edge Jul 27, 2020, 3:13 AM

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I just bought a nest thermo whoops

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a couple weeks ago

crisp mauve Jul 27, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Should I expect lower battery life out of a SmartThings button when connected via Conbee II/ZHA instead of a ST hub?

The included battery died within about a month, I think, but admittedly I was re-pairing it and testing range. Changed the battery two days ago, and it's already showing 74%. I know the reporting isn't too accurate but this seems way too quick.

gritty zinc Jul 27, 2020, 7:55 AM

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The behaviour of your button will be no different unless you have something trying to poll it constantly. Battery-powered ZigBee devices tend to only broadcast rather than doing 2-way communication, so the co-ordinator you're using shouldn't matter at all.

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That said... over to #zigbee-archived if you want more ZigBee users to see this.

crisp mauve Jul 27, 2020, 10:17 AM

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It's a temperature sensor as well, it seems to update pretty frequently.

tidal grotto Jul 27, 2020, 12:27 PM

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What are your guys opinions of smart life products?

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I go for zigbee where I can but there is some products that tuya are one of few that make them

gritty zinc Jul 27, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Which products?

tidal grotto Jul 27, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Extention plugs

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4 or 5 outlets

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Outlets-AOFO-Protector-Individual-Assistant/dp/B07MZSH3CF/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=smart+extention+plug&qid=1595853083&sr=8-6

magic vortex Jul 27, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Hi guys, has anybody tried to make your humidifier ‚smarter’? I have Rowenta hu5220f0 with touch screen, but it’s ‚dumb’ device. I can’t dissasembly this, cause it has ‚triangle’ screws on the bottom 😅

gritty zinc Jul 27, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Buy a triangle screwdriver 🤷‍♂️

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Difficult to make a device smart without modifying it if it's not wireless.

winter bronze Jul 27, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Hi all ! I am new to home assistant and noob in yaml but this is the first time I need help, hope this is the right place. (noob in English too 😅 ) I bought an air conditioner connected to smartlife and when it is imported into the home assistant it is seen as a light! (on/off didnt work) and I can't use it! "CECOTEC FORCE CLIMA 12750 COLD & WARM CONNECTED" in smartlife everything is fine (fan control, on / off, fan mode, air conditioning mode ...) I tried to use the "template" function but it does not work with "climate". Do you have any idea to solve this problem ? 😊

little sentinel Jul 27, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Are Philips Hue color the best light bulbs?

gritty zinc Jul 27, 2020, 6:26 PM

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As always, 'best' is subjective.

little sentinel Jul 27, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Hmm

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want a 'fun' colourful bulb

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£60+ seems like a lot

gritty zinc Jul 27, 2020, 6:27 PM

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There are many, many bulbs out there. Start by describing what you're looking for and see what suggestions people have.

bright jacinthBOT Jul 27, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

Which country you're in
What your budget is
What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

little sentinel Jul 27, 2020, 6:28 PM

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ah okay

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Looking for E27 colourful bulb (bright enough for bedroom)

I'm from UK
Looking at about £25 p/bulb
I'm Using DeCONz (via Conbee ii)

vestal radish Jul 27, 2020, 6:50 PM

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whats a good option for a simple switch

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https://uk.gearbest.com/smart-light-bulb/pp_257679.html

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Is this any good?

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I purely want to use them to turn a vac on and off in a workshop

undone moon Jul 27, 2020, 7:05 PM

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which iPad is the "best" for mounting it on a wall?

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I was thinking something like this https://www.iwalldock.com/

gritty zinc Jul 27, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I would say one of these models: http://prntscr.com/tphadx

civic kraken Jul 27, 2020, 8:07 PM

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There are plenty of options Jonopoly. You should check Amazon or AliExpress, whichever you fancy. You'll have WiFi, ZigBee and other options, most less than 20£

little sentinel Jul 27, 2020, 8:20 PM

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But are they good though? feel like every time i google "top 10 smart home light bulbs"

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11/10 it's phillips hue

iron sable Jul 27, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Sonoff B1 is okay

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mine do flicker sometimes after 2 years of use

little sentinel Jul 27, 2020, 8:23 PM

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...flicker sounds annoying

civic kraken Jul 27, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Jonopoly, all I can talk for is what I have. Both milights (require hub) and Xiaomi (wifi) have worked great for me. 6-12€ a piece

little sentinel Jul 27, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Hmm ill probably try an xiaomi one

twin vault Jul 27, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Has anyone used an LED strip that allows setting color temperature in HA (similar to a Hue ambiance bulb)? Hoping for something that works with ESPHome though I'm not tied to it

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Jonopoly - I recently branched out from Hue and added some Ikea bulbs to the Hue hub, so far I'm fine with them

gritty zinc Jul 27, 2020, 10:23 PM

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If you want strips that have full control over RGBW, check out the WS2812 chipset (and related variants). Works okay with ESPHome but I'd recommend looking into WLED instead if the controller is going to be dedicated to lighting (i.e. no other sensors/switches running from the same ESP).

twin vault Jul 27, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Thanks! Actually I'm not even interested in RGB, just want a good experience similar to the Hue white ambiance (white only with color temperature adjustment). Would that still be WS2812? I looked into SK6812

civic kraken Jul 27, 2020, 11:21 PM

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SK6812 is pretty nice. Lacks the proper white temperature control, but otherwise it's been great

rich heron Jul 28, 2020, 1:01 AM

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a switch is a device? I have a switch to control various sensors and associate these sensors to an area, but I still don't know where to start.

foggy pecan Jul 28, 2020, 1:29 AM

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What is your end goal?

rich heron Jul 28, 2020, 3:17 AM

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my goal is to create a device, which I suppose has to be a switch and assign that switch to an area

foggy pecan Jul 28, 2020, 3:18 AM

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not going to happen without a full integration

rich heron Jul 28, 2020, 3:22 AM

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He tried an integration, but I do not know where to go, I saw the documentation but it is not clear to me, any recommendations?

foggy pecan Jul 28, 2020, 3:23 AM

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you would need to write an itegration

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none of the helpers can generate devices

rich heron Jul 28, 2020, 3:26 AM

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so I could not add any device without doing an integration?

foggy pecan Jul 28, 2020, 3:27 AM

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devices can only be created by integrations that populate the entity and device registries

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template_* and input_* integrations do not do so

rich heron Jul 28, 2020, 3:34 AM

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have created an integration using python3 -m script.scaffold integration, now would I have to configure some file to add a device? or is it not?

foggy pecan Jul 28, 2020, 3:35 AM

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best bet is to read through here:
https://developers.home-assistant.io/

past canyon Jul 28, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Does anyone know of a smart remote that can control devices that use 2.4 ghz radio (not wifi)?

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I have a light that has a radio remote and I'm pretty sure it's on 2.4 GHz instead of the usual 433 MHz, so I can't control it with a Broadlink RM

sudden escarp Jul 28, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Good morning

I am using WLED as a mobile app and recently installed home assistant on raspberry Pi3 B+, and WLED Home assistant finds WLED, but I would like to use either Google home or Alexa to control WLED’s lighting effects ( not just the solid colours) but the effects such as rainbow chase etc. I just want to know if it can be done and if anyone has done this and how

slender silo Jul 28, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Is someone here familiar with the OSRAM gardenpoles? Just bought a set. have it setup to MQTT and HA is letting me switch on and off and picking colours. The only thing is my lights wont turn on at all..

bright jacinthBOT Jul 28, 2020, 11:27 AM

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@sudden escarp Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

sudden escarp Jul 28, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Ok

white mantle Jul 28, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Any chance there's such thing as a battery-free open/ close sensor? I realise I'm probably dreaming here, but I just want to make sure! I think the battery-free switches (e.g. Senic's Nuimo - https://www.senic.com/nuimo-click) are genius!

gritty zinc Jul 28, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Of course you can have battery-free. It just usually means running mains power 😉

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The reason clickable things work is there's kinetic energy powering them. No such luck with hall sensors / reed sensors.

white mantle Jul 28, 2020, 3:48 PM

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How did I know that was going to be the answer 😂 Wanted to get started on the sensor collection but can't hardwire right now (moving house)
I figured it was a stretch!

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I know there's plenty of community posts, but while I'm here, any recommendations for use as a door open/ close?

gritty zinc Jul 28, 2020, 3:56 PM

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If you're using (or willing to add) ZigBee, the Aqara sensors are amazing. So small, long battery life, reports both open and close events.

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There's the Samsung ones too. Also ZigBee but more expensive.

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Probably some good Z-Wave options too. You're not really going to find good WiFi options, since WiFi and long battery life don't exist in the same product.

white mantle Jul 28, 2020, 4:16 PM

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The Aqara ones looks fairly good! I'll go ask my noob question (s) about how to get started with a ZigBee hub and not the proprietary Aqara one over in #zigbee-archived 🙂
Thanks for the help @gritty zinc !

little sentinel Jul 28, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Not sure if this is the right channel...

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does the power consumption change when charging an ipad vs when its full?

gritty zinc Jul 28, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Almost definitely. Most power adapters will have intelligent circuits so they don't supply the full current when the device is charged.

little sentinel Jul 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Hmmm 🤔

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That's exciting!

abstract nest Jul 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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can anyone recommend a smart deadbolt that works well with HA?

wet moat Jul 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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im curious about that too. do you want a keypad?

abstract nest Jul 28, 2020, 6:42 PM

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yes

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https://www.amazon.com/Ultraloq-U-Bolt-Smart-Deadbolt-Door/dp/B07XLJZWMC?ref_=Oct_s9_apbd_omwf_hd_bw_b290s&pf_rd_r=WC3ZYPVBJEE5HXZXV3BD&pf_rd_p=f57eefe2-2983-58f3-8345-e93fe4d6c21b&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-10&pf_rd_t=BROWSE&pf_rd_i=511306

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i was thinking about this

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was about to buy it

wooden peak Jul 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Switching channel, think the question is better here 🙂

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Is it possible to rename an auto discovered device from MQTT?

verbal magnet Jul 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Upon advice from a MOD, I am going to cross-post this here, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7CJZ57kwcb/ for some background I am already using HA on a raspberry pi 4 with ikea tradfri in my current place with alexa, hamony hub and emulated roku linked with android ADB to control lights and media devices in my home, new house is going to get the proper treatment of built-in automation capabilities rather than wireless optional extras, so any advice you can give would be great?. 🙂

gritty zinc Jul 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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(mods have green names)