Guys, can i use Shelly 1 or Shelly 2.5 with a Smart Bulb?
#hardware-archived
finite storm
winged knoll
If you turn off the power to a smart bulb, it's not so smart any more
finite storm
But the Shelly 1 have i wifi/mqtt, it have all the time connection to the HASS right?
winged knoll
So... what's the actual question then?
If you're asking can I use HA to have device A control unconnected device B then the answer is ... of course
But, fi that bulb is wired to the Shelly, when you turn off the Shelly, the bulb is off. Powerless. Unable to be controlled any more.
finite storm
You mean "turn off the shelly" = just via the switch turn off or via the app or via HASS turn off
winged knoll
As I said, it's all about how things are wired...
Smart bulbs without power are dumb
finite storm
ok actual question now
shelly is wired behind the switch and the L gooing to the ceiling bulb. Just when i turn on or off i can all the time control the bulb via the switch or via hass with a normal bulb
just a normal bulb i can control it, just turn on or off
what is more on a smart bulb, just the colors. Can i now control the colors? = Smart bulb connected via mqtt to hass and Shelly connected via mqtt to hass
winged knoll
Sure, you can control it when it has power
finite storm
and when i turn off the the bulb via HASS MQTT/Shelly, i can't turn on via MQTT/Smartbulb anymore?
winged knoll
Correct - because it has no power
If you throw the bulb in the drawer, can you control it with HA?
No - same situation
finite storm
Ahh oke.
BUT, now the really point question form me 
if i want to create some scene just also when shelly is turned off to turn on the smart bulb, can i then create on HASS a button to "turn on the shelly first and then turn on the smart bulb and set the color to Blue"?
winged knoll
Well:
- Turn on Shelly
- Wait for smart bulb to reconnect
- Control bulb
finite storm
Because the target is i want at night when i go to the WC the bulb always be turn on but then color BLUE.
Ohh this is maybe 5 seconds
should not be solve my problem
finite storm
What if someone powerdown the switch
or want to be able to turn on the bulb also via Switch?
winged knoll
Don't connect a smart bulb to a switch
You can use HA to indirectly control things
But what you're doing as I've said more than a few times is not the best approach
zealous dune
or disable control of the relay from shelly and control the bulb via HA all the time
finite storm
Then i have no possibility to use the swtich becauase my wife want to use it all the time to turn on and turn off
zealous dune
wife using the switch?
finite storm
yes
zealous dune
divorce
jovial pulsar
Tape
frosty saffron
@undone haven,. many tx for the feedback,.. I'll look into templates,.. but that's just what I was looking for...
undone haven
Glad it helped out. Happy automating
finite storm
Guys what do you thing about my question, there is a possibility to use shelly as Detached Mode?
What does it mean really?
undone haven
@finite storm , I think your question has been answered more than once.
sharp fjord
hi all, question if I may.... just installed a sonoff d1 dimmer, flashed with tasmota, so using mqtt, added a custom card to lovelace, with custom slider, but light doesnt turn off when slidder at the bottom, seems to stop responding below 5%, any ideas - please
brave dagger
Can you share the relevant configurations?
sharp fjord
how do i do that - sorry fairly new to ha and discord
winged knoll
You'd have to turn it off
sharp fjord
the state that would normally report the light % just shows OFF at all times no matter where the slider is, the bulb is responding proving I dont go below 5%
providing...
works ok with the standard card... so will work with that for now
patent cobalt
Fairly new to HA and rolling my own automation in general. Got a Sonoff Basic R3 in yesterday and started playing with it. What's the best way to integrate it, either via DIY mode or using DIY mode to flash tasmota, I'm open to either option.
winged knoll
IMO Tasmota since you get more direct control and integration with a host of things
patent cobalt
So that was my expectation as well. Got the device into DIY mode, joined to my wifi network, but I'm unsure of where to go from here to get Tasmota on it via the OTA method that's allegedly available now. Any links for a guide on how to do that, that explain it reasonably newbie-friendly way?
bright jacinthBOT
naive nacelle
So, that $16 4-pack of smart plugs turned out to be a winner. It's the flashable hardware revision \o/
Sale appears to still be going, but Amazon's auto-pricing has started to kick in
About to figure out Tasmota for the first time, myself
terse ice
@naive nacelle link?
also, lmk if you need help. I've been using tasmota for a few years now
naive nacelle
@terse ice https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QPZ5WMW
They've gone up in price by a dollar since yesterday, but still cheap AF
Currently throwing Linux on a spare laptop because it would appear tuya-convert requires a linux system with wifi to do its thing
terse ice
@naive nacelle that is a decent price. I think im gonna hold out until i can get some zigbee/zwave outlets directly, now that i have both bridges
@naive nacelle I keep a spare wifi usb dongle, and plug it into the machine, pass it through to a linux vm, and run it all from there
well kinda, its all a hypervisor lviing in a server rack, but ive done it with vbox too.
naive nacelle
That's what i would have done, but my USB wifi dongles are all currently accounted for
naive nacelle
Need to get a new spare, the old spare is now permanently in use >_>
naive nacelle
Think I bricked a plug...
terse ice
wooo!!! time to get a CP2102 😛
naive nacelle
"Device did not appear with the intermediate firmware" error
And now it won't respond at all
terse ice
ah yea... are you sure the firmware version was flashable?
because I got a bunch of LEDs that I had to pull apart and flash manually.
naive nacelle
Should have been
The page lists the TYWRD2S revision as incompatible, but this is a TYWRD3S
terse ice
tl;dr, tuya changed some code on their end that makes tuya-convert's exploit code no longer function
same thing happened to me (might even see my comment in that chain)
naive nacelle
Managed to recover, it's flashing now
Ran it again and it picked up where it left off, thankfully
No LED on the plug the entire time, which was weird
terse ice
save yourself future heartache, get these: https://www.amazon.com/Tegg-Electrical-Testing-Multimeter-Grabber/dp/B07NY73PQF/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=test+hook+clip&qid=1592938564&s=hi&sr=1-2
naive nacelle
Got a Tasmoda SSID
terse ice
before you need them
naive nacelle
So, this actually worked perfectly
@terse ice I actually have some of those already, lol
Very familiar with hardware programmers, just wasn't looking forward to trying to pry one of these plugs open
terse ice
Yea... thats never fun. The ultrasonic welds are a pain
FWIW im an embedded engineer by trade, so things like that are right up my alley.
naive nacelle
Eeeyyy! It has an IP address on my wifi
terse ice
eyyy!
naive nacelle
Doing the OTA firmware update, as tuya-convert flashed a pretty old version, hopefully it comes back from this...
Yay, it's still not bricked, lol
No huge loss if one of these does brick, honestly. They were $4 each...
terse ice
im just waiting for my temp/humidity sensors to show up.
worst case is you pull it apart to flash manually. ESP's are REAL hard to kill
i've only manage to kill 2. 1 by high voltage, one by total immersion in salt water.
naive nacelle
@terse ice So, how's wemo emulation supposed to work?
Device isn't discoverable via wemo in HA or the Belkin app, and Alexa just refers back to setting the device up in the Belkin app first
Got it working with MQTT, so I can talk to it that way, but kinda need Alexa to see it too
naive nacelle
Yeah, that has pretty much no info on how to make it work. lol
terse ice
so its discoverable to hass
naive nacelle
Option is set, emulation is enabled, nada
terse ice
did you perform a device discovery within the alexa app?
naive nacelle
Yeah, just says to open the Belkin WeMo app
naive nacelle
Already have a physical hue hub, and Alexa only supports one of those
So it won't see it
naive nacelle
Yeah, pfsense router and cisco switches
terse ice
what wap?
naive nacelle
Aruba IAP 324
naive nacelle
Yeah, I've been loving mine. Upgraded from TP-Link garbage 😛
naive nacelle
I specifically avoided going Ubiquiti
I don't like their management architecture at all
Cisco and Aruba have it figured out with integrated FindIT / Aruba Instant management
terse ice
i liked the collaborative meshing support. I've got a crapton of land to cover.
but low bandwidth needs overall
and i didn't want to screw around with licensing.
naive nacelle
The Cisco / Aruba hardware I picked up has integrated licensing
So didn't have to deal with that either 😛
But yeah, if I went any higher-end, I'd be in full blown enterprise gear with licensing and a support contract required just to get firmware updates
terse ice
doesn't hurt that I got a bunch of AP-PRO's for $20 each
naive nacelle
Any other ideas on why WeMo emulation is failing? Their docs really don't say anything about how to make it work
terse ice
thats the problem, most of this stuff is geared for consumer networks, not this near enterprise level though
naive nacelle
I should note that real WeMo gear works fine
I have a legit Belkin smart plug that discovers no problem
terse ice
oh. well then maybe raise an issue on the github?
naive nacelle
Is there like a pairing mode I need to enable? The real ones need you to hold down the power button for several seconds
But I get the feeling that might be a factory reset on tasmota
terse ice
what version of tasmota are you running?
terse ice
right but are you running tasmota.bin, or tasmota-lite.bin, etc?
naive nacelle
tasmota.bin
naive nacelle
I was looking through their issue tracker already, lots of people saying to use hue instead...
But that literally only lets you use one device
terse ice
you don't have the friendly name using a dollar sign, do you?
naive nacelle
Nope, friendly name is just TasmotaPlug1
naive nacelle
This is the one thing I needed to work, lol
naive nacelle
Figures. I should just flash it back to stock and use the Tuya app
terse ice
if thats your perogative, go for it.
I personally just deal with the local control limitations.
keeps my bride happy.
naive nacelle
Was trying to keep things local, but working > not working
terse ice
i mean, you could do alexa->hass->mqtt->tasmota, right?
naive nacelle
Yeah, haven't committed to that monthly fee yet
terse ice
what monthly fee?
naive nacelle
Nabu Casa
terse ice
oh yea, that thing
naive nacelle
I'm not about to forward a port directly to the server running HomeAssistant, which is what the manual setup procedure requires
Makes the HomeAssistant login page visible on the open internet. It's running in Docker so I have no control over keeping whatever web server it's running on secure, and there's not even any MFA support on the login page...
terse ice
im in the same boat.
gritty zinc
You should consider using something like nginx to take care of controlling traffic.
naive nacelle
And while it's possible to do a reverse connection or a VPN tunnel from AWS (thereby making everything secure and only accessible from inside AWS), that's not free to set up
terse ice
or traefik
naive nacelle
So, yeah, I'd rather pay for Nabu Casa than deal with that
I have HAProxy running on pfsense
A reverse proxy doesn't really stop someone from hammering the logon page until they get in
terse ice
no, it doesn't but you can do some intrusion detection and just ipblock
naive nacelle
I'd rather have the reverse connection to AWS 😛
gritty zinc
If only HA had native IP banning: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/http#ip-filtering-and-banning
naive nacelle
IP banning isn't a cure-all, though it is a good mitigation to have
gritty zinc
But this conversation appears to be way off topic for this channel. Take it to #general-archived or #the-water-cooler please.
naive nacelle
Router already does that for all port forwards
Right, back to trying to get WeMo integration working on Tasmota...
Which is how we got to "MQTT -> HA -> Alexa" in the first place, as a work-around
gritty zinc
Speaking of #integrations-archived
naive nacelle
@terse ice I notice mDNS discovery is disabled... might be it?
Nothing showing up for that when I search the wiki
terse ice
@naive nacelle try enabling it, see what happens
naive nacelle
No idea how, docs don't say anything about it. lol
It's not a menu option anywhere, so it must be a command
naive nacelle
Hopping over to the Tasmota discord, lets see if they know what's up <.<
naive nacelle
They're stumped too D:
naive nacelle
So, tasmota was a major letdown. The one feature I needed to work failed to work, has no real documentation, and two communities worth of home automation buffs have no idea what could be wrong
Any other firmware I can try?
lol
naive nacelle
Should work fine. Worst case, the additional RAM isn't utilized
I believe the 32bit ARM version of HASSOS is compiled with the LPAE flag enabled, which will allow the 32bit OS to utilize all 8GB of RAM
with the caviot that individual processes can use no more than 3GB of RAM each
boreal oar
Is there a preferred method to monitor a deep freeze? Just had an incident where ours was left open all day and everything melted. It’s unfortunate because it’s actually a wifi enabled freezer but the service was discontinued
naive nacelle
Standard magnetic door sensor would work
And/or a temperature sensor placed inside
I use these for most things, they're Zigbee
One of their temp sensors inside the freezer would be slick, as long as the signal can reach through the casing...
I've been tempted to put a couple door sensors on my fridge so Alexa can start complaining if a door gets left cracked open
boreal oar
Do you feel the 2 yr battery life is realistic?
naive nacelle
They've been good so far. Installed for a few weeks now and all the batteries still read 100%
And HomeAssistant can read the battery status, so it's something you can make a notification for
I actually shoved one inside my doorbell ringer. It goes off when the bell rings because the ringer uses a pair of solenoids, and they make a large enough magnetic field to trip the magnetic switch inside. Lol
boreal oar
So you are using them with just a generic zigbee hub?
naive nacelle
Using them with a USB Zigbee/Z-Wave dongle
boreal oar
I’m not super familiar with zigbee or any of the radios
So this freezer is in my garage, do I need to create radio coverage between it and my pc running HA?
naive nacelle
That's the one I used ^
Zigbee is a 2.4Ghz mesh network, so if you have any other Zigbee devices they'll act as repeaters
glossy prism
I also use that stick
Not all mains-powered devices are repeaters necessarily though. Most are, but some (sengled bulbs in particular) are end devices only
naive nacelle
Z-Wave may be a better bet, I think it's like 900 MHz?
Longer range, better wall penetration
boreal oar
Is wifi an option? I have an AP in the garage. Also have a network switch in there
naive nacelle
@glossy prism I was pleasantly surprised to find Hue bulbs are repeaters, when paired directly to the Zigbee stick
Bulbs alone give me a full coverage mesh
WiFi could be an option, though most WiFi sensors tend to have poorer battery life
boreal oar
I see
glossy prism
Yeah the single hue lamp I have in my ZHA mesh helps with a few sensors that are far from the coordinator
naive nacelle
There are honestly tons of options
You said it was a smart freezer until the cloud service died
If it had a local API, you might be able to talk to it still
boreal oar
It was and yeah, haven’t found anything where it’s been reverse engineered
I’m not a fan of automating lights so I’d have to dream up some other reason to have other zigbee devices for creating a mesh
boreal oar
If I went the zigbee route what’s the typical way to create an alert to my phone that the sensor is open?
glossy prism
Wireless protocol doesn't matter for that, it's the same regardless. State trigger with the binary sensor entity going from 'off' to 'on'
tawny jacinth
Hi guys
what is typical range of zigbee devices?
how far can they be from the coordinator/hub?
general question.. i ordered bunch of door sensors... for 3 storied house.
now wondering if i will need zigbee routers... shipping from aliexpress takes months..
boreal oar
I guess what I mean to say is do you get it to trigger a text message? Or are there better ways to set of an alarm on your phone?
nimble pecan
Is it possible to use a ps3 camera using the motion addon? Right now it just shows a grey image. Seems like it might not have the drivers?
hmm nm there seems to be 4 instances or something of the camera.
naive nacelle
So, I ordered a couple of these for my ceiling fans. They're Zigbee canopy controllers, and they're turning out to be pretty buggy and unreliable:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hampton-Bay-Universal-Wink-Enabled-White-Ceiling-Fan-Premier-Remote-Control-99432/206591100
Anyone have any advice before I return than and find something else?
They regularly stop responding via Zigbee and have to be reset a few times. The RF remote they come with tends to work in these scenarios, but setting fan speed 3 has a 50/50 chance of crashing the controller and turning off the entire fixture until it's power cycled at the switch
Wishing I'd purchased a Bond Hub instead >_>
mighty sentinel
Hey There, am I'm missing something or isn't there a option to add entities to an area? Thanks in advance
winged knoll
Correct
covert summit
Hi guys, is there a way to retrieve past value of a sensor that it had at certain hour?
winged knoll
Not easily
covert summit
I can view it in the history, would love to get it with a template.
Any hints on how to tackle that?
winged knoll
covert summit
ugh, not easy indeed 🙂
hushed moth
@tawny jacinth The range really depends on a lot of things. You could just try it when you receive them and if it doesn't work buy an ikea range extender / plug.
winged knoll
Zigbee range is about 8 to 10 meters under good conditions
You can reasonably expect less
I bought one of https://zigbee2mqtt.discourse.group/t/ad-buy-ready2use-zigbee2mqtt-stick-flashed-antenna-mod-and-printed-case/22/6 (from Europe) and it covers a whole floor with ease
tawny jacinth
Thanks. Doesn't look like I have choice but to wait.
:)
Ordered bunch of door sensors yesterday from AliExpress. Will have to wait for 3weeks atleast before I can check...
Another question... I have a door intercom.. analog one.. I would like to get HA notified when bell is rang.. any idea how I can achieve that?
lyric hamlet
anyone know how to not record history for certain devices? like time or sun?
bright jacinthBOT
gritty zinc
Another question... I have a door intercom.. analog one.. I would like to get HA notified when bell is rang.. any idea how I can achieve that?
@tawny jacinth There's all kinds of ways you could make a dumb device smart. Most of which will involve doing some #diy-archived.
tawny jacinth
@tawny jacinth There's all kinds of ways you could make a dumb device smart. Most of which will involve doing some #diy-archived.
@gritty zinc ok tks.
void olive
wich heater is intergrating beautifull with home assistant. I will get a garden room(glass room) and for the winter i look for a suitable heater. any tips? living in the eu(the netherlands)
winged knoll
void olive
well that doesn't cut it many things there but many about ac
void olive
well some heaters have different levels
cedar venture
any uk users can recommend a ceiling fan with either wifi or zigbee support? I can only find a couple but they are for the US market, and ebay only has junk for uk
naive nacelle
Still trying to find good ones in the US, to be honest
I installed some Hampton Bay can controllers with zigbee support, and they're about to get returned. They keep dropping, crashing, and locking up
And I really don't need a light fixture to crash...
modern river
anyone got suggestions for a old 10" tablet to use as wallpanel that has good custom rom support so that the android version is fairly recent?
cedar venture
@naive nacelle was that in reply to my question about fans?
naive nacelle
Yup
foggy pecan
Probably better off getting a dumb fan and a smart controller for it
cedar venture
yeah ive considered that. Theres a SONOFF relay which can control lights and fans in one unit. Just not sure how id control the various fan speeds
@naive nacelle ok thanks
naive nacelle
I'll ping you if I find anything
cedar venture
and the lights are always just some crappy led, not a socket you can put a hue bulb into. Maybe I just expect too much for 2020 😄
naive nacelle
@foggy pecan like the Bond Hub?
I almost got one, but didn't like that it could lose sync with the actual state of the fans and lights
cedar venture
i saw bond on amazon uk, but its not available atm
suspect it wont be restocked either
naive nacelle
Bond apparently makes actual canopy controllers, as well
Which will always report the actual state of the fan and lights
If they work anything like the bond hub, they can be configured as dumb MQTT devices and work with HomeAssistant over WiFi
There it is
Install that with any dumb fan, put it in MQTT mode, and connect it right up to HomeAssistant
cedar venture
it can expose diff fan speeds? or just on/off?
naive nacelle
4 speeds, fully controllable
cedar venture
hrm, interesting
naive nacelle
I'm about to swap the Zigbee canopy controllers I bought out for these
cedar venture
how does it work for a dumb fan though? how can it control speed?
relies on being a dc motor and just controls voltage?
naive nacelle
dumb fans generally use a 3-wire system, the canopy controller connects to the 3 wires coming out of the fan
naive nacelle
Which ones?
cedar venture
Thanks @naive nacelle, gonna look into that a bit more if I can find a UK supplier for any of it 🙂
naive nacelle
Also a canopy controller?
foggy pecan
I'm not sure what those are. It lives in the wall though
My overhead fans use 3 conductor cables to the box
naive nacelle
Canopy controllers install in the housing directly above the fan, so you don't need to run the fan wiring all the way to multiple wall switches
And then operate via remote
naive nacelle
My fans were installed in locations that used to have normal light fixtures, so no 3rd wire for an in-wall switch
Otherwise they'd be lutron 😛
foggy pecan
House was pre-wired for double gang
cedar venture
would you prefer lutron, if you werent having to retrofit?
naive nacelle
Yeah, I would have just installed their Caseta switches in the walls and called it a day
cedar venture
this is for fans too, or just lighting?
naive nacelle
Most of the switches in the house are already Lutron Caseta
cedar venture
ah nm, found it
naive nacelle
They make a specific one for fans
cedar venture
seems I cant buy lutron in uk either. Hooray!
naive nacelle
I believe you'd install both a dimmer switch AND a fan switch in a double-gang box. Not sure they have a single combo switch. That'd be a lot of buttons.
naive nacelle
I'm currently using a couple Lutron Pico Remotes for my fan control. Most of the remote is light control (on, off, brighten, dim). The center button has been made into a fan speed toggle, cycling through off, high, medium, low, and back to off.
Two are installed into standard decora wall plates and look like permanently installed Lutron switches, and a 3rd one sits on the coffee table
Little bit round-about: Pico remote -> Lutron hub -> HomeAssistant -> Zigbee Fan
cedar venture
this is just a dumb fan too?
naive nacelle
It's a dumb fan with a zigbee canopy controller installed
naive nacelle
So I can control it from HomeAssistant programmatically, or with the included remotes
The included remotes aren't really used with the in-wall PicoRemotes installed, though
cedar venture
maybe I should just import some Hampton Bay canopy controllers
naive nacelle
What's the line voltage over there, again?
naive nacelle
Thaaat'd be a problem
cedar venture
😦
naive nacelle
Pretty sure these only work on 120
naive nacelle
North American standard is between 110 and 120v
cedar venture
seems like the best option is to just wait
naive nacelle
I mentioned the Bond Hub earlier, because if your fan already has a simple RF remote, it can clone it and make it available to HomeAssistant
Either using the Bond integration, or by converting it to an MQTT device
cedar venture
I dont have a fan yet, just a light fixture. I was going to replace that with a fan + ideally a hue bulb but
im expecting too much for uk I think
naive nacelle
Gotcha
Keep in mind, if you install hue bulbs, you need to make sure the fan's light stays on at all times, otherwise they'll lose contact with the hub
And disable any dimming features of the fixture, as hue smart bulbs don't like dimmers at all
cedar venture
my initial plan was to have a SONOFF relay which powers the fan and bulb individually from one unit
so I can control both of those
like this one
keen ingot
Anybody ever used one of those Lutron Aurora dimmer switches with a non Hue bulb?
I see some things online that indicate it should be possible to use it as just a regular Zigbee switch device, and other things that say it only works with Hue
dense isle
Hey all, I just took down something on my wall, Google told me its a honeywell glass break detector. I tried googling if it can be used with HA but all I see are security companies using it. Anyone know if there is any integration with them directly with HA? Thanks!
undone haven
What protocol does it use? Zigbee, zwave, or WiFi ?
Never mind, looks like the only integration Honeywell has is thermostats.
dense isle
Oh well, guess its going in the garbage
alpine shale
I'm trying to set up a camera in HASS OS. I don't see any errors in the log, but I also don't see a camera device anywhere.
undone haven
Did you enable stream? Beyond that, you will get better information in #cameras-archived
alpine shale
@undone haven No. But I will. Thanks for directing me to the correct forum
boreal oar
I’m thinking of getting into things with aqara door sensors and temp sensors. Does it make the most sense to go with an aqara hub? Or a xioami? Or other?
raven heart
Anybody have experience with Wyze cameras and homeassistant? I have a couple of nest cameras but I hate paying the monthly cloud storage fee which really adds up. Now that I have homeassistant running well I'm considering getting some wyze cameras, but I'm not really sure how the system would compare
peak talon
I’m thinking of getting into things with aqara door sensors and temp sensors. Does it make the most sense to go with an aqara hub? Or a xioami? Or other?
@boreal oar try zigbee stick connected to HA. You wouldnt need any other hub
winged knoll
See #zigbee-archived
dusty kraken
Hello! I like to buy a Vaccum Cleaner that is supported by Home Assistant. Which one would you recommend? I was looking at the Roborock S5 Max or S6.
zealous dune
do you need mopping?
dusty kraken
not necessarily
zealous dune
i recently got xiaomi vacuum 1s just because we realised we almost never used the mopping feature on our previous vacuum
dusty kraken
I will have a look at it. Thanks!
zealous dune
easily pulled the miio key and all features work through home assistant
undone haven
I have the s4 and would get the s5 just for its power. I think it navigates rugs and stuff better. I don’t think I would ever use the moping feature
Or the newer S6
chrome haven
When enabling a light (connected by Tuya) it turns on in real life, but the slider doesn't move.
What can that be?
New it goes to this, while I didn't change anything
peak talon
you are using Tuya services or Tuya convert?
chrome haven
Tuya Services
peak talon
so you are experiencing a delay? if yes, then it is expected
chrome haven
What do you mean?
peak talon
I thought from your gif, you are experiecing a delay from the time you click on and switch responded correct?
chrome haven
Well, when I click it, the light goes on in real life. But the switch online doesn't follow indeed
And then after some refreshing and waiting, it jumps a bit around, the end in the correct position
peak talon
have you done any configuration, or just used the integration and added the switches?
I mean have you written any specific automation in yaml ?
peak talon
ah okay - so it must be those servers responding incorrect messages
chrome haven
And is there a way to fix that? Or do I need to use another integration?
peak talon
you could just remove the integration and try adding again
or go with Tuya convert process to just stay local, your control stays local
chrome haven
What is the difference between Tuya Convert and normal tuya?
Because there is only one Tuya integration in the list
(new to this, sorry xD)
peak talon
https://github.com/ct-Open-Source/tuya-convert This allows your to overwrite the firmware in your tuya devices which are essentially the ESP chips. So either you write the tasmota or ESPhome https://www.esphome.io
chrome haven
Ah ok; thanks :)
And this will improve stability?
peak talon
stability and fleibility - since now you can effectively disconnect internet and still control your tuya devices.
but there is some learning curve. You need to understand either Tasmota or ESPHOME
chrome haven
How does it communicate then without wifi?
peak talon
i didn't say wifi - i just said internet. It still uses your wifi to connect to your router. Since it can be connected to your HA (which is in the same wifi) it just connects with it.
chrome haven
Oh ok. Thank you, will read the documentation :)
(Probably will go with Tasmota)
peak talon
Technically you do not even require HA - ESPhome / TASMOTA have their own UI as well
chrome haven
Is there any way to see which Realtek module your light is using?
Tuya has begun manufacturing some Wi-Fi modules using a Realtek RTL8710BN Wi-Fi SOC instead of an ESP82xx chip.
Tasmota cannot run on Realtek devices and there are no plans on supporting them.
peak talon
probably not. just run the Tuya convert process, if it does not connect, then you are not on esp 🙂 there will be no damage other than lost time
chrome haven
Ok, thanks 😃
peak talon
once you get hang of it. start buying those cheap esp8266 / esp32 devices and build your own sensors and integrate to HA seamlessly, HA and Espome work superbly - its actually quite addictive see esphome discord
candid agate
can anyone recommend any Bluetooth trackers for keys that works nicely with the Bluetooth tracker, backup tracker for phone WiFi and Bluetooth?
bright jacinthBOT
candid agate
Romania, bluetooth tracker that works like a phone bluetooth, i can go up to 20 euros top for pice
just plain bluetooth when i arrive home home assistant will pick it up as home
nothing else i care
winged knoll
I've had luck with the Chipolo beacons
I use them with monitor rather than HA directly though
candid agate
ah good if that works like this i can buy them cheap
i dont use monitor because i dont use zigbee2mqtt
candid agate
yah i dont use mqtt at all
nowhere
but i don't see any reason that wont work is bluetooth
i'll buy one see if it works
thanks @winged knoll
dense isle
whats people's go to for motion detection? CHeap but functional? I can do both zigbee and zwave. I want to set up an automation that will turn off my lights if no motion detected in x mins
looks like aqare has a cheap $20 one, leaning to that unless there's other suggestions
mental cargo
the aqara ones are great. I also like their built in light sensor. Don’t know where u r from, but one can usually get them imported for 10€ max
cedar venture
@dense isle I use Hue motion detectors, which work well but not the prettiest. I also use Aqara temp and door sensors, which are far better than the equivalent Hue and SmartThings ones. Im impressed with Aqara overall so it's unlikely to be a bad option
keen ingot
@dense isle I love the Dome ones but they're a little more expensive than that.
cedar venture
although having said that, Aqara motion detectors look kinda big and bulky, now I google
keen ingot
https://www.domeha.com/z-wave-motion-sensor are about the size and shape of a golf ball and have an optional magnetic mount on the back so you can angle it any way you need, and easily stick to things like the side of a fridge, a door, a washing machine, a shelf, etc.
lol never mind the buy link goes to amazon which is out of stock
gg dome
I see a lot of people using that Ecolink z-wave PIR one. I'm not wild about the boxy look, but if looks don't matter I've heard good things about it and not going off for pets etc
cedar venture
my hue ones dont trigger for pets, but they have to be mounted flat to a wall, so no angling
the smart things ones have a metal pivot so you can angle them if you want
dense isle
Thank you guus for the feedback, sounds like I same some pretty good options
glossy prism
@cedar venture they're pretty small actually
Apparently their specs section is an image
fleet grotto
Any reason why the sonoff motion sensor (https://sonoff.tech/product/smart-home-security/snzb-03) takes an entire MINUTE to stop detecting motion? Is there a way to change this "setting"?
fringe moon
If it didn't it would probably be out of battery in divide time with you desired timeout value I would guess
My Xiaomi can be hacked with a soldering joint to do every 5 seconds
balmy forge
Anyone know of a way to save a history of light color and brightness?
On/off is useful, but it would also be nice to have brightness and color
foggy pecan
Look at scenes
bright jacinthBOT
brave dagger
@chrome haven If its still in the config file then just restart and it should appear again. Was it a sensor you deleted or the broker?
pastel coyote
maybe someone knows the secrets of the command_line sensor:
I'm trying to fetch the SSD usage like this:
command: "smartctl --all /dev/sda | grep Total_LBAs_Written | awk '{print $10}'"
but the the sensor value is empty
when running in console (ssh) it returns the output (a number)
also tried some other commands - "pwd" and "id" are working, "ls" is not
what could be a reason?
crisp mauve
Are you running in a Docker container or anything like that?
Came with a question of my own actually, I got a Broadlink RM4 Pro recently and setting it up has been weird. Initially I couldn't get the broadlink.learn command to work, gave up for the night, but then found it was working today when I hadn't changed anything...
Now, I've tried two different IR remotes (Samsung TV and no-name HDMI switcher), both are producing different results each time I try to learn the same button. Not sure why, possibly it includes the press duration? When I try broadlink.send with any of these packets, the device won't respond at all.
Might also need to be positioning the RM4 better, gonna try that now but wanted to ask in case anyone had gone through the same thing already.
pastel coyote
Are you running in a Docker container or anything like that?
@crisp mauve
I have no idea where HA executes these commands, maybe in a Docker... in that case it may have no access to the smartctr utility. Tried to find out this using ls but ls doesn't work as well
winged knoll
How did you install HA?
When you look in 
-> Info you should see some information about the OS, whether it's Hassio/Docker/etc
Also installation_type
pastel coyote
oh, I see - the image for the RPi3B+
installation_type Home Assistant
winged knoll
Then probably smartctl isn't available in the HA container
(you're using #330990055533576204 FYI)
pastel coyote
I installed it and it works in the ssh terminal
winged knoll
That's another container
So, tools available there are available there and maybe not anywhere else
crisp mauve
I think my RM4 issue was positioning :/
pastel coyote
So, tools available there are available there and maybe not anywhere else
@winged knoll
I believe I installed it in the base Linux
I can see Dockers running there (if only HA doesn't use Docker in Docker...)
winged knoll
When you see container think other computer
Doesn't matter what you install on the host, or in another container
Though, if you're running #330990055533576204 (OS will be HassOS in -> Info) then you didn't install it in the base 😉
pastel coyote
I did :)
but you're right - I went to the homeassistant docker and smartctl is not available there
I thought file system is mostly mapped from the host, but it is not (at least /usr/sbin/ is not)
winged knoll
That's not how Docker works
pastel coyote
yes, I know...
installed smartmontools inside the homeassistant docker and it works now
thanks
winged knoll
Just keep in mind, you upgrade HA, those tools are gone
pastel coyote
oh, right you are, thanks
docker inspect shows some mapped directories (e.g. /config, /share) I can probably try to put some softlink there
winged knoll
You can put static binaries there and call them, but if they're dynamic, or soft links, don't expect it to work
pastel coyote
well, you're right again
smartctl depends on several standard libs and currently versions are the same in the docker and in base Linux. If homeassistant core migrates to something newer and not backward compatible my sensor will stop working. Automation to reinstall smartmontools inside homeassistant docker triggered by its upgrade? 🙂 I'll rely on compatibility for now
covert summit
Hi everyone, I have a device which can be switched on and off with http requests. It's basically http://ip/endpoint?switch=1 to switch it on and http://ip/endpoint?switch=0 to switch it off. Is there a way to use the restful switch to control the device? The restful switch does not allow resource template, but perhaps there's a way?
covert summit
it's dahua IPC. I wrote a custom component of my own, but was hoping for a more elegant solution
west summit
I have groups setup for my blinds in HA and it worked before. Now the grouped covers are present in HA, but they have no supported features, even though the blinds themselves all have the same features. Any ideas where I can look to fix that?
winged knoll
west summit
Tried those. Here's what I see: https://i.imgur.com/YOynXFI.png (grouped blinds, customized as shades in back-end)
Here's one of the members of that group: https://i.imgur.com/o8MPlOy.png. I'm very confused as to why the group has no controls. Even if I add it as an entity in the front end: https://i.imgur.com/60vJTWe.png (those are customized with sliders, which worked before great).
winged knoll
Which did you use?
west summit
cover group
west summit
winged knoll
No idea then 🤷
west summit
oop! I see it
I named all the entities _blind this time and I didnt last time. lol It's the little things
Actually that was just one of them. I wonder if It has to do with the fact that the covergroups are taking the customization of shade from the customize.yaml I have but the individual covers aren't.
I figured it out. Misnamed the entities in the group was the crux of the problem. Thanks for the help 😄
winged knoll
Happy to have served as your rubber duck
covert summit
Hi again, I asked the question earlier, but didn't find a solution. Perhaps now I would have more luck
I have a device which can be switched on and off with http requests. It's basically http://ip/endpoint?switch=1 to switch it on and http://ip/endpoint?switch=0 to switch it off. Is there a way to use the restful switch to control the device? The restful switch does not allow resource template, but perhaps there's a way?
covert summit
with curl?
winged knoll
Yup
You'll need something else to track the state
Assuming it doesn't report the state, that'd be an input_boolean you also turn on and off
covert summit
Sounds interesting. I'll give it a try. Thanks!
cedar venture
@glossy prism oh wow yeah. Those aqari sensors are tiny. They looked pretty big on the amazon images
fringe moon
Well, some of the images make it look like it is the size of a door
glossy prism
Yeah like the contact sensor ones lmao
civic kraken
haha I've never understood why they market them that way. They were so nice and tiny when I got them
glossy prism
Size: 2.5m L, 0.4m W, 0.2m D
Weight: 100kg
Battery capacity: 2,000,000,000,000 mAh
Battery life: Approx. 1500 years
fringe moon
Tut-ahn-kahmon used one on his tomb door to automate curse
glossy prism
Tut tut, it looks like rain
@fringe moon do you know what a s'more is, and if so, have you had one?
fringe moon
Yes, and no
brazen viper
does the phillips hue dimmer not show up as an actual dimmer in HA?
is it just a 4 button remote?
apologies if it's the wrong channel to ask in, just not sure if i'm doing something wrong
gritty zinc
Do you mean the #zigbee-archived remotes? Probably better to ask there 🙂
If you're ever unsure, read the topic.
brazen viper
yeah the zigbee version, i figured #hardware-archived was a catchall
gritty zinc
Here's good if there's not a more specific channel 🙂
brazen viper
fair enough, thanks
boreal oar
Anyone got anything negative to say about ConBee II before I buy?
nimble pecan
Anyone have experience with a sonof rf hub? Seems pretty affordable at 15$
fossil tundra
Does anyone have/know of a smart plug or other device that will let me measure current/load with frequent measurements? I've tried a TPLINK HS110 for a few months, but it frequently misses momentary power-ups of the device it's monitoring — I assume because it only occasionally samples the load on the outlet.
haughty shuttle
how frequent?
fossil tundra
Spent some more time looking into this; I'm probably wrong about this and it's not a hardware issue and I can solve my problem with some customized software. I'm using homeassistant's tplink integration to measure current, and then alarm if a device hasn't powered on in a very long time, or if it powers on too frequently (I'm monitoring a sump pump).
It seems the HA tplink integration — reasonably — polls at an interval that is too large for my purpose. I can either customize that interval, or set up my own polling script to hit the device's interface and post those metrics. Running this manually on a 1-second interval, I see it returning useful and different current numbers.
haughty shuttle
I know you can change the polling freq of zwave and zigbee stuff.
fringe moon
@nimble pecan doesn't work with any EU 433 devices I've tried so far, now trying with custom firmware and such
quiet sierra
@crisp mauve had your rm4 pro broadlink.send issue fixed? i got the same issue also.
fickle heath
I everyone, Im considering replacing my zWave and RF433 devices to wifi devices, e.g. LED Dimmer (fibrao), Plugs (RF433), motion sensors (RF433/zWave). Any recommendation or experience with the same migration?
gritty zinc
You'll need to be more specific about what devices you want to use. There's not really a 'migration' - you'll just be removing some stuff and adding other stuff.
bright jacinthBOT
fringe moon
I can heartedly recommend xiaomi zigbee sensors
gritty zinc
ZigBee isn't WiFi 😄
fickle heath
@gritty zinc 🙂 I know, I was just looking for great working WIFI devices, e.g. Motion Sensors, Plugs, Wall Dimmers so that I can fully replace them
fringe moon
wifi motion will be a PITA
gritty zinc
They all 'work'. The differences are... availability in your country, your budget, and features you want.
fringe moon
1 week of battery life hello
I have bought a few wifi wall dimmers with tuya that I am converting to tasmota, but I haven't had time to install them yet
for plugs I use either tuya based tasmota converted or zigbee ones where I don't need metering
fickle heath
well I might be on a wrong path, but my idea was that I have some ILFX bulbs on Wifi and like the ease of them just being on the WIFI with out additional antenna, usb adapters and communication in the house. I know that not all stuff are yet to be found on Wifi, but I might keep my RF433 stuff for some theap motion sensors etc
--- was also considering going the HomeKit way, but but .... don't want to lock my house to Apple only, in case I get an Andriod phone in the future
gritty zinc
Start with the basics... there may be better solutions. Bulbs... do you need RGB, dimming, colour temperature?
fickle heath
nope
gritty zinc
You just want on/off?
fickle heath
well dimming would be nice, as I have that today with my Fibrao Dimmers for my LED spots in the Livving room
but no color etc would be needed
fringe moon
I do dimming and colour temp with my ikea tradfri bulbs, that were $7-12 each
gritty zinc
But seeing as you already have Z-Wave, why change?
fickle heath
well my ILFX works perfect
fickle heath
correct 🙂
well I will not need that many.. I already have four and will need two more
gritty zinc
70+ bulbs is another reason to make the switches smart instead 😄
fringe moon
nah, I prefer the lights dimming according to daylight outside
I only turn them off at night automatically when I go to bed
and on when we enter the living room
bulbs downstairs are only on when doors are open, same with bathrooms
and the offices are motion triggered
fickle heath
are yours @fringe moon HUE or IKEA or just native Zigbee
fickle heath
ok
gritty zinc
Your bathroom bulbs only come on when the bathroom door is open? You don't like privacy when you shit? 😄
fickle heath
@fringe moon using USB Zigbee or IKEA gateway?
fringe moon
I hate it when I'm doing a footlong and the lights go off
I started with the ikea gateway, then moved to cc2531 but found out it was way underpowered and bought a cc1352
fickle heath
:angeryping:
@fringe moon Never hear of that device
fickle heath
and how to connect it to HA
fringe moon
via a raspberry pi on the other side of the house, that talks zigbee2mqtt via mqtt to HA
fringe moon
fickle heath
oki - well reconsidering my migration strategy
gritty zinc
I've fallen in love with ZigBee. I'm only going to use other protocols if there's no decent ZigBee product to fill a need.
I still have a WiFi power outlet at the moment because it works okay but I wouldn't have bought it at all if I'd realised how accessible ZigBee was.
fickle heath
I do like to price level fo rZigBee deviceses compared with zWave (and Homekit)
fringe moon
Yes, I buy door and motion sensors for $7-10
which is great
and the IKEA CT bulbs are good enough for me for most stuff, if I need RGB I build a custom light with ws2812
gritty zinc
Once the development boards get cheaper, it'll be easy to DIY stuff too.
Yeah, IKEA don't make RGB clouds 😄
cerulean trail
not yet*
gritty zinc
Just wait until someone in their product team sees atx's cloud
fringe moon
It's a shame the video doesn't do it justice
because it looks a hella lot cooler irl
I bought 900ish of these earlier this year, and I figured out the twitching too, so they'll be nice for christmas this year https://imgur.com/gallery/LxBX7A6
gritty zinc
900 lights or 900 sets of lights? With you, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.
graceful star
hi ppl, I have 2 switch lighs in my home one is one swtich, and other with 2 stitches, but one is for the same bulg that preview swtich, how do I connect my sonoff mini 2 way?
gritty zinc
If you don't know, you pay an electrician.
Don't mess with high voltage electricity if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
drifting grove
Hi @fringe moon , can you tell me which sensors you’re talking about and where to buy them ?
drifting grove
Do you need the Xiaomi gateway or can they be added directly to HA?
drifting grove
Good idea! Thanks
low current
i give up with my telegram issue Oo
peak talon
I use telegram a lot - also the commands but less of a calllback. You facing issues in commands or callbacks?
low current
telegram_commands all of them but not the keyboard, its inconsistent @peak talon
since i upgraded from 106 to latest
alias: 'Ping'
hide_entity: true
trigger:
platform: event
event_type: telegram_command
event_data:
command: '/ping'
action:
- service: telegram_bot.send_message
data_template:
target: '{{trigger.event.data.user_id}}'
message: "pong"
for instance
peak talon
i do not provide ' in command. Just the /ping. You are having problem sending the message back?
low current
or smth like this:
alias: 'Telegram hass gitpull'
hide_entity: true
trigger:
platform: event
event_type: telegram_command
event_data:
command: '/hagitpull'
action:
- service: shell_command.gitpull
Doesn't work either
i had never troubles before the update, all telegram commands worked accordingly
gritty zinc
Don't forget, that's an #integrations-archived or #automations-archived topic depending on what's wrong 😉
peak talon
have you tried removing the ' ' from teh command?
peak talon
let's go to #integrations-archived
low current
ups, yeah you are right
candid agate
@winged knoll I've tried that bluetooth le tracker you suggested, doesn't seem to work with - platform: bluetooth_le_tracker just because that is not actually working well, since i've enable it a lot of errors in logs
i'll look into that monitor maybe i'll make it work
winged knoll
That's what I use
gloomy spoke
I’ve been playing with that lately and really like it, but it still seems to need to be paired with something else to be reliable for exits. I’ve gotten false exits two nights in a row now
I’ve seen mentions of tying it to door opening and I’m trying that now
winged knoll
That's what I use
gloomy spoke
It’s frustrating that anything that relies on phones behaving sanely when sitting on the nightstand charging seems to fail at some point in the middle of the night
Ping, arp, location, btle all fall over periodically
candid agate
to be honest i am willing to try mqtt also, the only downside is i dont have it setup, i've never tried it, so i have to learn and do everuthiung from scatch on a platfor that actually works ok (at least bluettoth), ble do seem to be not functional at least for ha
candid agate
already did
gloomy spoke
The dark corners have dark corners
candid agate
just wanted to add one more tracker, that cipolo you recommended
but doesn't play nice with bluetooth_le_tracker
i'll try monitor but have to buy a pi zero
gritty zinc
It'll play nicely with monitor
candid agate
maybe I'll succeed to move bluetooth tracker and ble on that entirely
free one port on my nuc 🙂
gloomy spoke
Any Pi with Bluetooth or a dongle will work with monitor, doesn’t need to be a zero/w
gritty zinc
Yeah, I have it running on the 3B+ that used to have my HA install on.
I still need to plagiarise Tinkerer's automations but monitor itself runs well.
candid agate
actually i do have a pi3b+ sitting arround
gloomy spoke
Most do 🙂
gloomy spoke
There’s even an addon
gritty zinc
Isn't the addon less flexible than the real thing? I know it's a decent substitute but it doesn't expose all the same configuration.
candid agate
cant use addons 🙂 using unsupervised ha 😛
i prefer to make my own tbh, i was lost without add-ons at the beginning
gloomy spoke
Correct, mono. Looks like it doesn’t let you modify the various prefs beyond addresses to look for and command line args
Probably enough for most, though
fading mesa
Hi..not sure if right channel but I'm getting 100% swap usage on my rpi3 running hassio. Does anyone know how to clear the swap/get the usage down? Thanks!
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
☝️
fading mesa
thanks
pure solar
Guys, what's the easiest way to get Shelly working on HomeAssistant?
pure solar
seems like https://github.com/StyraHem/ShellyForHASS
fringe moon
I've used that to experiment with my Shelly, seemed good
steel temple
Hi folks, not sure if this is the correct channel to ask....but here goes. I have some HA experience, but I've just moved to Europe (Spain) and need some device advice! In the past I've used completely "temporary" devices (Tradfri bulbs, etc) but now I want to have hardwired switches/outlets. I think I want to standardize on zigbee2mqtt compatable devices...so any advice on wired wall switches and outlets that'll work in euro gang boxes and at 220v?
winged knoll
See the pinned messages in #zigbee-archived for a link to Z2M compatible devices
hushed moth
Is it possible to add more effects to my rgb lights strips? Using tasmota for them but the only effects are 0, 1, 2, 3 & 4. I now WLED is out there but I would prefer to just everything on tasmota.
fringe moon
WLED > tasmota for led strips
hushed moth
Even for regular rgb strips (not adressable per led)?. And would it work good on those wifi rgb ledstrip controllers? (http://shorturl.at/noqU3)
winged knoll
Effects are handled by the light, not HA
hushed moth
Ah, didn't know that
fringe moon
That was the strangest URL I've clicked this year
It looked like a Korean self help pastor
Nah, it's Chinese when I think about it
hushed moth
Whut
fringe moon
Click your own link 
dense isle
Hey all, I have a couple minka aire fans that use a remote and a code in the remote, similar to how garage door openers have. Is there any way I could integrate that into HA? Would be nice to auto turn on the fan based on the temperature in the house
hushed moth
Click your own link :GuitarTime:
For me that directs to an image of a wifi ledstrip controller
gritty zinc
For us, it's some creepy ass dude and no LED strips in sight.
Some '5G internet marketing' crap. Looks like a scam.
winged knoll
https://sites.google.com/view/happy0422/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81
gritty zinc
This is one of the reasons short URLs are baaaaad.
dense isle
Yeah thats a funny 5g link
hushed moth
Still isn't for me, guess it's cached in my browser. I made it to redirect to https://www.lumimaniac.nl/Files/2/59000/59619/ProductPhotos/Large/726051700.jpg
gloomy spoke
that link has 100% less creepy dude
steep badge
I'm trying to build a custom mqtt device, and successfully connected and published but a new device doesn't appear in mosquito
is there something I'm supposed to do besides client connecting and client.publish if I'm using pubsubclient?
white hemlock
Looking for a wireless (not bluetooth) temp/humidity/co2 sensor to use with HA, any suggestions?
Ideally without a hub and from Amazon, rather than AliExpress or other such stores, but it's not essential.
bright jacinthBOT
white hemlock
In the UK, no real idea on budget, probably up to £50. No preference on protocols, but must be wifi instead of bluetooth. I just want to pull the temps/humidity/co2 and log it to granfana.
winged knoll
No preference on protocols, but must be wifi
So, you do have a preference 😉
That rules out Zigbee and Z-Wave, and anything else that's not WiFi
white hemlock
Do zigbee and z-wave not work over wifi?
winged knoll
No
soft lake
Harmony hub vs broadlink mini, vs alternatives? I’ve got a harmony hub in the living room already but I’m looking for something that can control a non-smart IR fan in a bedroom, so need to add a second device.
glossy prism
@white hemlock Zigbee and Z-wave are their own wireless protocols like WiFi and Bluetooth
vestal hinge
hi guys. i have an RGB light but its showing as a normal light entity card on lovelace. but if i click on the 3 dots on the right hand side of the card, it opens up the RGB color picker and brightness slider, which is what i'm looking for. any chance how i can get that to lovelace?
civic kraken
#frontend-archived for frontend questions. You'll probably want a custom card for that so maybe look at HACS too
vestal hinge
oops sorry bout the mispost. thanks
steady void
Anyone got the Xiaomi Mi Smart Standing Fan 1C working in HomeAssistant?
bright jacinthBOT
tidal grotto
Harmony hub vs broadlink mini, vs alternatives? I’ve got a harmony hub in the living room already but I’m looking for something that can control a non-smart IR fan in a bedroom, so need to add a second device.
@soft lake broadlink mini, no new documentation, but its is really easy
oblique bear
i use a harmony hub to control my IR devices....i use a template switch to turn them on/off easily
got fans, fireplace, curtains and a humidifier hooked up to it lol
tidal grotto
harmony hub is pricey
broadlink mini is £12
in short steps, download broadlink app, go to add, when it gets to part of adding to a room backout of app and unistall the app, go to fing on your mobile and note down the ip and mac of the broadlink device, add this info to your configuration.yaml, restart, then go to service and select broadlink.learn, ,then press button on a remote pointed at hub, this will then give notification in your ha notifications ection with a code, copy this code and go to an automation and use ''broadlink send'' put the message and paste the code, woilla, ha then sends this code to the ip and performs it
soft lake
It's £12?
Where's are you finding one for £12?!
I had £25
Yeah, I'm trying to work out if harmony hub is worth the £££ over broadlink
I want it to do a relatively easy automation at night - if temp > xx then fan on
civic kraken
Automation-wise both will probably be similar. With Harmony stuff you're most likely spending for the software and database they have, which afaik matters very little with HA. I use a Harmony remote for remote stuff and a Broadlink Mini for ir-automation.
soft lake
Possible odd question, but want to double check based on creatish's description. Broadlink fussy about being controlled by multiple things (i.e. home assistant + alexa without link from alexa to home assistant)
Presumably not, but the uninstall the app suggested maybe
soft lake
It seems like broadlink you have to double teach - or do some pain in the neck extraction given I'm on iOS to get working on both Alexa and HA... 😩
But concept of temp and humid cable is great
civic kraken
In the current state of things, if you want things to be controlled by home assistant, you want it all going through it. This would mean telling Alexa to ask HA to do the action and not integrating Broadlink to Alexa at all. I'm not sure if I made any sense...
soft lake
Yes, think you answered it, but not hugely helpful in my current world 😂 Currently things can be controlled by Harmony, HA and Alexa, or even the device app, and none of those have to speak to any of the others. It's helpful for my perspective, because alexa is the most gf friendly. She can still turn lights on with alexa as an example, I can send all the automation through HA, and if HA goes down becu
Because I break something it's not the biggest issue
mystic token
Hey everyone, I'm not sure this goes in this channel but here goes.
I have a garage door equipped with one relay (to open/close, only one command to do it all), and 2 independent sensors (window sensors) that tell me if the door is fully opened or fully closed. Those 3 devices are already in HA.
I want to create a new "door" device, with a command to open/close, and a state that tells me if the door is opened/closed/in between, and maybe some logic to open/close depending on the sensors.
Should I create a new device for this (how?) or is it just a matter of having a proper custom card with a couple of automations to do the actions?
safe gazelle
Hello, i have a Tuya Smart Pet Feeder, which i converted to a Tasmota device using Tuya-convert, its fully working the only problem is i am not sure how to intergrate its mqtt to homeassistant, and get it properly working, online searches haven't lead to any good help. also i think that i somehow need to configure the tasmota in order for it to be able to control the pet feeder if you have anything i could try in regards of that it would be very kind if you could share that with me. i hope somebody here can help me, due to it being very late for me, i would kinda ask to ping me if you have an idea, or something i could try.
boreal hedge
does anyone know if running ESPHome on sonoff rf bridge still requires hardware mod? Thought I saw a mention that it doesn’t, but can’t find any concrete info
@mystic token can you use a cover template?
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weary spoke
what could be causing devices to be offline / unavailable to Home Assistant but reachable via the VM they're running on. 24 hour ping only 2% packet loss
TP-Link switches
nimble pecan
sensor temp_humid:
- platform: htu21d
i2c_bus: 1
name: "Office Sensor"
My sensor doesn't seem to be working with HA. Tried following the instructions from the site. I'm running on a rpi2.
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mystic token
@mystic token can you use a cover template?
@boreal hedge this looks perfect, thanks 🙂
wind pike
Hi, I have problems repairing philips hue smart button. Only the battery is now detected (once it worked as intended), no switch action. I tried reset by pressing internal reset button, also tried through touchlink (send the reset mqtt topic without payload). Aslo tried to remove it from UI.
Any ideas how I can solve it?
Other device works without problems
winged knoll
How did you "pair" it? Which integration are you using with it?
wind pike
I'm not sure to undestand. In integrations I have 3: Meteorologisk institutt (Met.no), MQTT, Zigbee Home Automation
winged knoll
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha doesn't use MQTT
#zigbee-archived can help further there
wind pike
Thanks
wise oyster
anyone have a good resource on implementing an nodemcu ESP8266 device to HA? I can see my ESP connecting the the MQTT broker and I've tried creating an entity but I don't see naything on the dashboard or the temp readings im publishing
gloomy spoke
depends on what you're using to program the ESP8266. I use ESPHome and it just connects automatically
it sounds like you may need to create mqtt sensors
wise oyster
I was just trying to program to esp8266 from the arduino IDE heres what I have for the configuration.yaml
gloomy spoke
or the topics aren't set up for auto-discovery
wise oyster
`sensor:
- platform: mqtt
name: "Temperature1"
state_topic: "tele/sensors/SENSORS"
unit_of_measurement: "*C"
value_template: "{{ value_json.temperature }}"
- platform: mqtt
name: "Temperature ESP"
state_topic: "tele/sensors/espTemp"
unit_of_measurement: "*C"
value_template: "{{ value_json.temperature }}"
`
the second one is the one that's not being detected
gloomy spoke
do the sensors show up in MQTT Explorer, or when you subscribe in dev tools?
civic kraken
Other one is detected, but the other one isn't? Can you subscribe to the broker and see that there's no typo in the topic or something. # should subscribe to all topics
wise oyster
So the first one detected is flashed with tasmota
what is the MQTT explorer? Do you mean under the configuration -> integrations page?
wise oyster
okay I've gone there and I've put in the topic I should be listening for, is there something I should see?
wise oyster
So that works but I'm not receiving my publishes from the esp8266
wise oyster
strange since the serial port says it's publishing
and publish is being acknowledged
gloomy spoke
MQTT Explorer is nice because it just shows everything on the server in a convenient way
wise oyster
sounds good thank you, it looks like the mqtt broker isn't picking up the publishes for whatever reason
civic kraken
In the future I would recommend checking out ESPHome and other similar readymade software for the esp8266 stuff like RobC mentioned. It makes it a breeze to integrate small sensors and such with Home Assistant
wise oyster
Thanks for the info but what I'm trying to do is incorporate a bit more coding
determining the size of beehive cluster based on multiple different temperature sensors
civic kraken
Hehe, yeah it's mostly useful for quick and simple stuff
wise oyster
good to know
frank mica
I have been using mostly smartthings zigbee motion sensors with fairly good results (and they are fairly cheap) with my smartthings hub. now that i am switching to HA i need to buy some more motion sensors and am wondering if there is a go to motion sensor for HA? I have zigbee and zwave available on my HA install. I was looking at the new inovelli multi motion sensor or was thinking maybe just getting more smartthings zigbee sensors.....
winged knoll
I'd suggest asking in #zigbee-archived and #zwave-archived for specific recommendations.
Personally for Z-Wave I like the Aeotec and Fibaro multi-sensors, though the Aeotec has been problematic for many - including me.
For Zigbee the Xiaomi Aqara one is cheap, and ok. I've got a Konke one on order and will find out in a month or two what that's like.
winged knoll
I doubt it, but I don't have any
frank mica
they seem to work pretty well overall
winged knoll
The folks in #zigbee-archived will know more I'm sure
frank mica
is there anything i should keep in mind when choosing between zwave or zigbee for my sensor?
winged knoll
Not particularly
frank mica
k thanks
wise oyster
So I'm able to see my message being published in MQTT explorer but I can't see the entity in the influx db add-on or dashboard
I'm using an ESP8266 programmed through the arduino IDE
any ideas?
gritty zinc
If you can't see an entity, you haven't configured discovery. You need to either do that or add a suitable #integrations-archived to see it.
wise oyster
Well I do have discovery enabled as my other tasmota devices work
through the discovery feature
gritty zinc
Is the device using discovery? 😉
Tasmota takes care of that stuff for you. You said you've programmed this other device yourself.
wise oyster
righhhhhht
Can I enter manually enter the mqtt device in the config.yaml or will that effect the auto discovery feature
gritty zinc
You can... and ask in #integrations-archived for help if you need it.
wise oyster
thank you
opaque tide
I have an awning that's open when it's closed and closed when it's open. I don't see anything in https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/cover/ .. is there some way to invert this?
gritty zinc
Covers switching the open/close but has some issues with position.
It's basically this: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/cover.template/
opaque tide
Fortunately it doesn't have a position.
opaque tide
Does this look like it might work? https://hastebin.com/licifujazi.yaml I could use a sanity check since I'm not familiar with this template system and I'm trying to avoid 1000 restarts to figure it out.
Oh crap, I didn't see the template editor in the UI
Sorry to jump the gun on asking.
And it works. Thanks!
hushed moth
At one time I deleted the HA app from some devices and re-installed it. Somehow there were duplicate devices. The entry on the first install and one for the second install. Most of them are gone now but not all. How can I remove this duplicate device? http://werra11.eu/i/01-07-2020_00:11:33.png
nimble pecan
How do I check if an ic2 device is working?
nimble pecan
sensor office_temp:
- platform: htu21d
temperature:
name: "PC Room Temperature"
humidity:
name: "PC Room Humidity"
update_interval: 60s
remote anvil
Hello every1. I have purchased a CC2531 USB dongle which I will plug into my HassOS powered RPi4. I have read multiple docs and tutorials, but I have one concern that I wanted to check with you.
The question is: when I plug the USB stick to the RPi 4 - do I have to configure anything on OS level so it is detected or I just need to install the Mosquito an ZB2MQTT addons and configure it there?
zealous dune
it should be detected by the os kernel
remote anvil
Thanks for confirming guys - I thought it was the case since there is no info on that. Sorry about spamming in this channel - still new
undone haven
@nimble pecan , check the states page for your sensors. See if they change state?
@hushed moth , #ios_and_mac-archived May have better info but you could always remove the entity from .storage. You have to stop HAss, backup the file, and remove the entity being careful not to break the formatting.
graceful star
Does anyone tried connect the SP501E controller light strip with home assistant?
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azure hare
I’m new into Raspberry World. I would like to have a wall panel to see HA but I want it be stable. Should I stick with a RPi4 and 7’’ touchscreen for my Home Assistant? Many people here goes with old tablets… I recently bought my first RPi4 and want to have HA with Node Red.
Would I have same RPi4 to both HA and Media Center? I bought 1 TB SSD for my movies. Mostly 4K and Bluray. Anybody told me that I should seperate one RPi4 for HA and one more for Media. So three RPi4 for me?
winged knoll
Depending on your install method you can't have a local display
I'd also suggest that running HA on a thing folks are poking may lead to not stable
azure hare
@winged knoll what you mean with local display?
I can wire a ethernet cable to the place I was thinking to have my screen if that was what you thinking about.
winged knoll
Should I stick with a RPi4 and 7’’ touchscreen for my Home Assistant
You can't connect a display if you're using #330990055533576204 (or any supported version of #330944238910963714)
Anything remote will work fine though
It's "just" a web interface
civic kraken
My guess would be that RPi will handle both HA and Media just fine, but I personally got a Nuc that does both for me
azure hare
@winged knoll I understand now.
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civic kraken
Which install method are you running/planning?
azure hare
Hmm, exactly my thought. This is my first time with HA. I want to try with my RPi4 with a SSD first. Then maybe buy a NUC.
I'm a little bit confusing but have read about Home Assistant with Node Red on my RPi4.
But now I see that my 8 GB RAM wont be working. Gah, I completely missed that!
graceful star
how to use led strip controller SP501E in Home Assistant?
winged knoll
From a quick Google, the answer looks to be maybe you can't
graceful star
@winged knoll I did search previous at google, but like fmcla google didnt provide any answer, but another discord group did and solve
=/
civic kraken
Fele, moving the installation to a different platform is fairly easy so I'd probably just start with trying out HA and then see if you want to go forward with it. If you want a full OS, instead of hassos it gets a bit more complicated and often not fully supported
foggy pecan
you have a bad template somewhere
tribal stump
I think this might be what is causing it but I don't know how to fix it
value_template: "{{ value_json.status }}"
foggy pecan
.share the full thing in #templates-archived
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tribal stump
Okay, thank you
zinc vine
I have a removed device (sensor) which still gives me an error message on every startup of HA. I've checked all the config, but it's not there. How do I get rid of it?
(And there... When I ask the question I find it myself....)
sigh
drifting grove
hi maybe this has been asked before. But I like to control a hue light bulb by using a velbus push button. Since I am new to HA I have no clue where to look. Is this an automation? I migrated from openhab and there is solved this using a rule
glossy prism
yep, that's an automation
drifting grove
how would one do this?
glossy prism
this is an #automations-archived question, but for a button you'll probably need to listen for a button press event or, if the integration supports it, use a Device automation created in the automation UI
nimble pecan
@undone haven Im getting a sensor is not detected in bus 1. I have all of it plugged in. Same as the adafruit learn page. It working when I connect it to an arduino.
raven coyote
anyone have one of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YP9Q65C ? is it just a ZHA bulb, or some custom zigbee protocol?
olive mason
Has anyone played around with SwitchBot? Do you need (yet another) hub to use it?
olive mason
oh, nevermind. switchbot is bluetooth.. eff that
i work professionally on BLE devices.. trust me when I say bluetooth is hot garbage
dusty cobalt
Is anyone having issues with their Xiaomi Vacuum since 0.112?
Mine is no longer being seen.
frank mica
i want to get alerted if someone walks in to my garage, i was thinking of maybe trying to tap into the garage door opener optical sensor. anyone done anything like that?
dusty cobalt
Do you have a motion sensor in there?
frank mica
yeah but it doesnt trigger if they were to only walk in a little
maybe i can re position it i guess
probably a lot easier than tryign to tap into the optical sensor on the GDO
dusty cobalt
You want this to happen if the door is open as well as closed or is this for a side door?
frank mica
my detached garage sadly has only 1 way in and out, the main door
so the door would be open
i wish there was a way to get an alert if the person in the garage isnt me
i guess to do something like that I would need to look into using AI with a camera?>
dusty cobalt
Or a BLE beacon
frank mica
yeah that might be cool too
tawny dust
Im looking for a battery driven led, wich I can turn on and off from HA when my washing machine is done. but cant find one
tawny dust
could be a diode
winged knoll
The problem is... always listening devices consume a fair bit of power, which isn't good for battery life
tawny dust
@winged knoll yeah i see might have to find something 230v device instead
winged knoll
Or USB...
tawny dust
maybe Philips Hue Go v2 EAN 8718696173992
versed helm
Can I link the kevo smart lock to home assistant?
winged knoll
And then, if it isn't there, search the forum 😉
gritty zinc
If there are no results, you could Google and see if there are custom components.
fringe moon
@tawny dust just go for a smart bulb, change colour when done, presto
mental cargo
@tawny dust as already pointed out, the problem will not be the power consumption of the light but that of the always-on-Receiver. I had really studied the same problem for weeks until I found the following: the best idea for battery driven smart lights is probably using zigbee, which I managed to get below 20mA for receiving. The best reasonably sized battery power supply would be any LiPo which could have around 3000-3500mAh. Bottom line: any battery based smart light (bought or diy) would last one week max before having to recharge it.
..If u r interested in a DIY solution let’s switch to #diy-archived
valid python
Can someone tell me how to control a switch that is set up in once instance of hass from another instance of hass?
twilit bobcat
@valid python i would use mqtt. connect both instances to the same mqtt broker and set up an MQTT switch (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/switch.mqtt/) on the secondary instance and an automation to control the actual switch using the mqtt payload as the trigger.
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/automation/trigger/ (third one down)
teal gust
for some reason my binary sensor states changed from open/close to on/off after upgrade to 0.112, have I missed something 
Even Synology security status went from safe/unsafe to on/off lol
gloomy spoke
binary_sensor states are always on/off
and have always been
sensors, on the other hand, can do whatever they want
twilit bobcat
@teal gust just make a template sensor based on the binary and you can make the state whatever you want
thorny abyss
Hello all! I have added Tuya light bulbs to my Home Assistant config using the built in integration. They work, but there is a significant delay in feedback to Home Assistant. I activate in HA, the light goes off, but the feedback in HA takes at least 10 seconds. There is zero delay if I use the Smart Life app. Anybody know how to fix this? My bulbs can't be flashed with Tasmota -- already tried that. In my professional life, I'm an AV design engineer, and delayed feedback is absolutely not allowed. I can't imagine that there isn't a better way, which makes me think I've missed something. Any help would be appreciated!
hazy acorn
After I upgraded to .112 my Lutron-Caseta occupancy sensor is no longer recognized at startup:
2020-07-02 20:51:33 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.binary_sensor] Error while setting up lutron_caseta platform for binary_sensor
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/entity_platform.py", line 186, in _async_setup_platform
await asyncio.gather(pending)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/entity_platform.py", line 292, in async_add_entities
await asyncio.gather(tasks)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/entity_platform.py", line 343, in _async_add_entity
device_info = entity.device_info
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/lutron_caseta/init.py", line 134, in device_info
"identifiers": {(DOMAIN, self.serial)},
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/lutron_caseta/init.py", line 123, in serial
return self._device["serial"]
KeyError: 'serial'
remote depot
I'm having trouble finding the API key of my Xiaomi fan s2, i could extract it using the mi home app for my first fan last year, but i have now bought a second one and the log file only seems to contain one api key. actualy it is now showing the same api key twice, however home assistant is not recognising the second fan with this key. any thoughts?
remote depot
i have just figured out that the second key dropped of my notepad window. i feel like such a fool now
slender bluff
Can anyone recommend a weather station (wind, rain sensor) that works with HomeAssistant? Thanks 🙂
naive inlet
hi guys i just received my xiaomi airpurifier 3 model zhimi.airpurifier.ma4. I read the docs in the webpage but some how i cannot get it running tried to search also in forum but didnt find anything. Does is currently work with HA 0.112.1? TIA
heady kettle
cant get the xiaomi water leak sensor to change states in homeassistant They are connected thru conbee 2. The state change is detected in deconz. Have various other xiamoi sensors all working fine.
winged knoll
See #zigbee-archived
pallid thistle
Morning all, I'm just in the process of moving from ipad wall panels to android ones using fully kiosk.
My ipads are currently using appdemon dashboard, but I'm moving to Lovelace.
In Lovelace I've got the animated background that relates to the weather and this works well on my phone and laptop, but on the fire the background is just white.
I do have a message that says "Beware of the outdated android WebView, (current Ver. 70)" - Not sure if that will have an impact.
Thanks in Advance.
molten parcel
Has anyone has this message when trying to configure an entity via UI? "This entity does not have a unique ID, therefore its settings cannot be managed from the UI."
Not sure how to fix it :/
crisp rover
guys how cna I remove these bunch of devices? https://imgur.com/x44zoKC
winged knoll
@molten parcel That simply is telling you you can't change the entity_id
crisp rover
the checkbox is greyed out
winged knoll
You don't fix it
molten parcel
ahh okay, I guess I have to write automations via Yaml
winged knoll
You can still write the automation in the UI...
Those will be in known_devices.yaml @crisp rover - stop HA before editing that file
molten parcel
got ya
The device doesnt appear in the dropdown when selection action for some reason.
crisp rover
thnx
winged knoll
Then @molten parcel you need to move away from device actions 😉
molten parcel
Okay thanks 🙂
glass moss
Hello, I'm new with Homeassistant and starting to config, my question is: configuration made with UI dosent appear on configuration files (yaml)?
glass moss
where i configure the devices? Witch YAML file?
winged knoll
Well... generally you configure them according to the #integrations-archived documentation
There's no universal "just do this"
glass moss
Thanks
random scarab
Has anyone had any luck with flux/Magichome led bulbs? I have some rgbw bulbs but it seems they only just flash for a second when turned on/off
steep badge
when you add a tasmota RGB smart bulb and auto discover it is it supposed to detect the color stuff automatically?
or do you have to manually do that
weary spoke
I'm having issues with TP-Link and YeeLight, the TP-Links are randomly going unavailable even though its reachable from the host. The YeeLights also a similar problem, but they show up as "white only" even though they are color bulbs - when they do show up. Does anyone know whats going on?
fringe moon
Since both probably use multicast, is your ha and the devices on the same logical subnet, and is your HA installation running in host mode with no firewalls @weary spoke ?
dawn flame
I can't see any of my Xiaomi Zigbee devices after updating to the latest version. No idea where to start troubleshooting, nothing in error logs
gritty zinc
Start by posting in the right channel: #zigbee-archived
ember oriole
@winged knoll is your bedroom light happen to the the yeelight beside 2?
bright jacinthBOT
Tinkerer is away for 2h 2m 57s with a message :point_right: What do you mean the line printer is on fire?
winged knoll
Strip @ember oriole
weary spoke
@fringe moon its running on the same network technically - dual interface
indigo raven
Hi, I have a couple of devices that suddenly stopped working on HASSIO, did some restarts, updates, etc, etc. and nothing worked. finally the only fix was to change the device IP address, for example from 192.168.0.66 to 192.168.0.166 the same thing with other devices. is there something in hassio that blocks some IP's? is there a log I can take a look? no errors on MQTT or supervisor, the device is simply not found unless the IP is changed... thanks all for your help
pure solar
@indigo raven Probably need to know what kind of devices these are to troubleshoot. My guess is maybe remove/add them?
Also what integration are they using?
indigo raven
once was Konnected and the other was a Shelly HT, Konnected uses its own Integration and shelly HT uses MQTT
there is no problem with Integration or mqtt, since if I change the IP they worked but if I put previous IP they dont
pure solar
Anything in the logs? I can't speak for Konnected, but for Shelly HT it'd be easy to use a MQTT client to make sure it's reporting correctly to see if it's a problem with the sensor vs HA's reaction to it.
If IP change fixes it then I guess we're good to go!
indigo raven
If I change the IP on SHelly HT it is shown on Mosquito Logs but if I put old IP is not shown on the logs
pure solar
Dare I say - router may have been fudging up DHCP Leases and the devices just couldn't connect to WiFi to begin with - your IP restart probably forced a lease and then we're good to go
indigo raven
change the IP is a temporary fix but what if this keeps happening to other devices?
pure solar
Well - come back when it does. If it happens to completley unrelated devices than it seems it's a WiFi infrastructure problem.
indigo raven
nope, no ip problems or router issues. is something on HASSIO but dont know where to look
pure solar
oh ok
fringe moon
@weary spoke that would probably be your issue then, dual homed is usually the worst idea
weary spoke
not sure what else to do, the network is isolated the home assistant is the only vm that has access to the internet
fringe moon
Use proper firewall rules and vlaning if you so feel like it 
drifting grove
anybody got experience connecting a 2-wire pt100 to a sonoff?
winged knoll
Sounds like #diy-archived
brisk drum
It seems there is no support for TP Link Tapo P100 smart sockets, while there is for many others (e.g. HS100). Is it not possible for some reason or has it just not been done?