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merry ember May 2, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Yeah

bright jacinthBOT May 2, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ or https://www.hastebin.com/ to share code or logs.

fringe moon May 2, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Show what you have

merry ember May 2, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Am not by my laptop right now, but will check it asap

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@fringe moon thanks..

quaint pier May 2, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Hey has anyone tried using a sonoff t1 switch as a rf bridge or receiver?

cunning cypress May 2, 2020, 9:02 AM

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Hey. Returning hass user 🙂 looking at smart blind controls for existing roller blinds. Has anyone got any recommendations. 🇬🇧

quaint pier May 2, 2020, 10:50 AM

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what about pairing a sonoff t1 with a rf remote (receive only)? its is possible with the stock firmware but i cannot find a way to do it with tasmota

timid ore May 2, 2020, 1:55 PM

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in short you have to set up a mqtt sensor

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:17 PM

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in short you have to set up a mqtt sensor
@timid ore is this message for me?

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ok so where do i create this sensor? i think i need to tell tasmota to "read" that signal and port it "to a sensor"?!

timid ore May 2, 2020, 2:18 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/dht11-attached-to-esp8266-and-flashed-with-tasmota-sensor-values-not-showing-up-in-home-assistant/108728

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as example

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share the mqtt payload

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:20 PM

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tasmota does not generate a payload. i used "RfRAW AAB155" to sniff the singals

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i think i now need to tell tasmota to capture this "device" and create a payload!?

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14:15:06 CMD: RfRAW AAB155
14:15:06 MQT: stat/rfbridge_433994/RESULT = {"RfRaw":"ON"}
14:15:06 MQT: tele/rfbridge_433994/RESULT = {"Time":"2020-05-02T14:15:06","RfRaw":{"Data":"AAA055"}}
14:15:34 MQT: tele/rfbridge_433994/RESULT = {"Time":"2020-05-02T14:15:34","RfRaw":{"Data":"AA B1 04 0226 038E 0762 074E 381828282818 55"}}
14:15:34 MQT: tele/rfbridge_433994/RESULT = {"Time":"2020-05-02T14:15:34","RfRaw":{"Data":"AA B1 04 0226 037A 0758 0F0A 38182828181818281828182818181818182818282828182818282828281818282818181828 55"}}
14:16:53 MQT: tele/rfbridge_433994/RESULT = {"Time":"2020-05-02T14:16:53","RfRaw":{"Data":"AA B1 04 0226 038E 0762 074E 381828282818 55"}}
14:16:54 MQT: tele/rfbridge_433994/RESULT = {"Time":"2020-05-02T14:16:54","RfRaw":{"Data":"AA B1 04 0230 0384 0758 0EF6 38182828181818281828182818181818182818282828182828282828281818282818181828 55"}}
14:17:44 MQT: tele/rfbridge_433994/HASS_STATE = {"Version":"8.2.0(tasmota)","BuildDateTime":"2020-03-20T14:45:23","Core":"STAGE","SDK":"2.2.2-dev(38a443e)","Module":"Sonoff Bridge","RestartReason":"Power On","Uptime":"0T00:10:02","WiFi LinkCount":1,"WiFi Downtime":"0T00:00:06","MqttCount":1,"BootCount":17,"SaveCount":41,"IPAddress":"192.168.100.37","RSSI":"100","LoadAvg":19}
14:17:54 MQT: tele/rfbridge_433994/STATE = {"Time":"2020-05-02T14:17:54","Uptime":"0T00:10:12","UptimeSec":612,"Heap":27,"SleepMode":"Dynamic","Sleep":50,"LoadAvg":20,"MqttCount":1,"Wifi":{"AP":1,"SSId":"xxx","BSSId":"D2:40:D0:3E:BF:70","Channel":1,"RSSI":100,"Signal":-44,"LinkCount":1,"Downtime":"0T00:00:06"}}
14:18:12 MQT: tele/rfbridge_433994/RESULT = {"Time":"2020-05-02T14:18:12","RfRaw":{"Data":"AA B1 04 0226 0398 074E 0744 381828282818 55"}}
14:18:13 MQT: tele/rfbridge_433994/RESULT = {"Time":"2020-05-02T14:18:13","RfRaw":{"Data":"AA B1 04 0226 037A 074E 0F0A 38182828181818281828182818181818182818282828182828282828281818282818181828 55"}}

timid ore May 2, 2020, 2:21 PM

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`The RFdata is what tasmota is sniffing with the device - that is already your payload

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:22 PM

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ok so what to do next?

timid ore May 2, 2020, 2:26 PM

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to be honest... I realy dont know - with a template sensor you can edit the data youre reciving

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lets google

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:31 PM

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@timid ore i thought this would be easyier. i imagined, that my sensor is sending his stuff and i tell tasmota to redirect it to mqtt, so that hass can handle it.

timid ore May 2, 2020, 2:34 PM

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well, that temperature device creates payloads with a logic - i dont know wich
That crayzy person took the time to look throu some of them - maybe worth cheating with it
https://github.com/merbanan/rtl_433
Tasmota only creates a rf sensor

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but that ll be defenitly hard

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button presses are easy to get around - that was also that what I thourght you want to use it for

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:36 PM

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no buttons, just receive the temp from the sensor

timid ore May 2, 2020, 2:36 PM

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'just'

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:36 PM

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yeah, i thought this is just basic stuff 😄

timid ore May 2, 2020, 2:37 PM

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you basicaly want to reverse engeneer the rf comand wich the hama swich is sendong and want to make sense out of it

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:38 PM

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https://i.otto.de/i/otto/25031436/hama-funk-wetterstation-3-aussensensoren-hygrometer-thermometer-mit-wecker-batteriebetrieben-schwarz.jpg?$formatz$

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this is the weather station i'm already running

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there are some cheap "433 temp sensors" on ali, gearbeast, etc... are those easyier to integrate?

timid ore May 2, 2020, 2:40 PM

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rf = rf - I would say no to easyer - Look throu the forums and google is someone else took the time to get around the logic

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when you just have to integrate is it most certanly is easyer

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:42 PM

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i think i will stick to those zigbee sensors then. just hoped that i can still use my existing sensors.

timid ore May 2, 2020, 2:42 PM

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an easyer aproach to that hama thing would be a camera and run image recognition over the temperature display GWchadThonkery

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:42 PM

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wow 😄

timid ore May 2, 2020, 2:43 PM

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I would know how I could do that at least 🤣

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:47 PM

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@timid ore im going to open one of the sensors, lets see whats in there

timid ore May 2, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Probably ont of the dallas temp sensors or something like a DHT - ask the chip how he encodes the payload 😄

void kestrel May 2, 2020, 2:52 PM

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i sent a picture in DM, i cant post pictures here

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Hi guys, I've been doing some search, but I couldn't find the final answer to my question. I'm looking for a wifi plug (or maybe a wifi socket) to start with and learn the basics. It's not clear though if all devices that say "google home" and "alexa" are supported. My best guess is that, for each device, I must search for an integration with that specific model, I can't rely on the "google home" label, right? Also, it's hard to tell if the devices are going to communicate to external services/need to register some kind of account (like xiaomi devices). I would prefer a device that just works locally. So, how can I tell?

zealous dune May 2, 2020, 3:33 PM

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only off the shelf device that can work locally is shelly and even that requires you to have an mqtt server

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every other commercial system uses the cloud for remote control

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google home and alexa only mean they work with them, not with home assistant

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 3:40 PM

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so every device communicates with it's own external service? and home assistant integrates with that service?

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What about z-wave/zigbee devices? I can create a hub with a USB stick. Would those devices also require communicating with their external services?

zealous dune May 2, 2020, 3:42 PM

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zigbee and zwave are inherently local but depending on the gateway

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if you're prepared to do work you can create your own solution for wifi, zigbee or zwave

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 3:48 PM

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what kind of work?

zealous dune May 2, 2020, 3:49 PM

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configuring, installing, potentially debugging

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 3:50 PM

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that, for sure, but i can't bypass the fact that wifi devices will need to communicate with external services, right?

zealous dune May 2, 2020, 3:50 PM

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you can if you spin your own solution

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 3:52 PM

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what do you mean? i'm a developer, i don't understand anything about electronics

zealous dune May 2, 2020, 3:52 PM

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same way you need to install and configure home assistant you need to install and configure a gateway for your chosen protocol

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in some cases that requires flashing firmware in some no

calm sleet May 2, 2020, 4:05 PM

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hey there, right now i try to integrate a tasmota flashed sonoff t1 in home assistant, but the mqtt automatic device detection doesnt work, even so in the console of tasmota web ui i get the cornfirmation that mqtt connection is successfull and a bunch of mqtt messages. Is there any obvious mistake i make right now?

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 4:06 PM

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if i just use a usb z-wave stick, doesn't home assistant work as a hub?

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that's what i understood from the tutorial

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and then i would add any z-wave device

zealous dune May 2, 2020, 4:06 PM

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yes

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@calm sleet did you activate the discovery with setoption19 1 and did you activate discovery in the mqtt integration?

calm sleet May 2, 2020, 4:11 PM

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@zealous dune Yes, i did both things. But still no new entities showing up

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@zealous dune & thanks for you help

zealous dune May 2, 2020, 4:12 PM

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are you using tasmota with autodiscovery support?

calm sleet May 2, 2020, 4:14 PM

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ähm, i should look this up. right now i use 8.1 do you luckly know if this supports tho?

zealous dune May 2, 2020, 4:16 PM

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everything is documented https://tasmota.github.io/docs/Home-Assistant/

calm sleet May 2, 2020, 4:20 PM

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if i subscribe to those topics i get messages back, but still can't find new entities under configuration->integration->mqtt

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 6:01 PM

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you guys prefer z-wave or zigbee?

flint rover May 2, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Hi, I just got a Nest gen 2, how can I connect it to Google Home and/or Hass? I wasn't a nest developer and the tuya config aint working.

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 6:07 PM

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https://github.com/USA-RedDragon/badnest

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@trim bloom "Yes" 😉 I prefer the cost of Zigbee, and the range and interoperability of Z-Wave. Zigbee 3.0 promises to be a lot better for interoperability at least

flint rover May 2, 2020, 6:10 PM

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ty Tink

cunning cypress May 2, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Can anyone recommend any smart blind controls?

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:32 PM

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@winged knoll ty! so, just to go into more details on what you said, you think zigbee is cheaper and z-wave is more reliable? which one is closer to a "plug and play" when adding a device, or which one requires less fussing around to connect a new device?

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Well, sort of, but not quite 😉

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Z-Wave devices will "just work" and all work together without pain

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Zigbee... mostly works, and largely works together, except when it doesn't

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:33 PM

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i see

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 8:34 PM

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With Zigbee a little research and asking questions will help you avoid known problems

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Xiaomi devices are cheap, but also known to be not exactly compliant

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I have a load of them, and no problems, but ... I'm using devices that are known to route them without pain

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:36 PM

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right, i actually think xiaomi devices are pretty horrible, software-wise

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Personally... having to do a little research up front is worth the massive cost saving 😄

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:36 PM

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yeah, i'm usually an extensive-research-guy

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for everything

drifting grove May 2, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Yeah I'm going through the same thinking for my new house to go Zigbee or Zwave

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 8:37 PM

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You can go both 😉

fringe moon May 2, 2020, 8:38 PM

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@trim bloom I only run Xiaomi for battery devices, 20 something of them

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:38 PM

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i'm more inclined to z-wave, but zigbee is pretty cool too, being kind of unlimited in both range (number of hops) and number of devices

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 8:38 PM

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https://community.hubitat.com/t/xiaomi-aqara-devices-pairing-keeping-them-connected/623 is one good guide, there's likely others out there, but that's more a #zigbee-archived topic

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For me the choice to add Zigbee was easy - 20+ sensors are £7 or at £35...

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:39 PM

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@fringe moon but they need that sketchy xiaomi account, right?

drifting grove May 2, 2020, 8:39 PM

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So would the thinking be controllable stuff Zwave, and non-critical Zigbee?

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 8:40 PM

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They don't @trim bloom

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They're just Zigbee

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:40 PM

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oh, so it's all local?

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Yup

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:40 PM

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that kinda changes the picture for me

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 8:40 PM

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For me, Z-Wave for where you need configurable devices, Zigbee when you need simple ones

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:40 PM

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because i really like xiaomi's hardware, just dislike the software

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I can tune my Z-Wave multi-sensors to respond as I want, but the Zigbee ones are "install and pray"

fringe moon May 2, 2020, 8:41 PM

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I have hue, gledopto, tradfri and Xiaomi in the same 85 device mesh

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With zigbee2mqtt

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All local

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:42 PM

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i bought a xiaomi "smart network speaker" (wifi) a while ago and, as though it is an extremely good speaker (hardware-wise), its software is the single worst piece of software i've ever seen in a device

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the only firmware update they released, makes it stop working

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and it's basically the dumbest speaker i've ever had

fringe moon May 2, 2020, 8:45 PM

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From what I can see it supports dlna, so you shouldn't need to use the software, people even report it as a regular media player in ha

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:45 PM

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it supports pluggin in a pen drive, but it ignores folders, albums, filenames, whatever, it creates a list of all the songs in the pen drive, ordered by its metadata title and that's it! no organization whatsoever

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playing from bluetooth, it skips a lot, with the phone right besides it

undone moon May 2, 2020, 8:46 PM

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a question - should I for every esp32/esp8266 esphome device put a reserved ip address?

trim bloom May 2, 2020, 8:47 PM

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my 90's mp3 player is smarter...

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at least it has good sound quality, so i plug my phone though the 3.5" jack

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💩

winged knoll May 2, 2020, 8:49 PM

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No harm in static leases

fringe moon May 2, 2020, 8:49 PM

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DHCP reservations and DNS entries imo

undone moon May 2, 2020, 8:50 PM

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ok

stiff scroll May 2, 2020, 9:11 PM

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What would be the best no nutral wire smart switch? I'm in the UK. Ik I can't have WiFi due to all of them needing neural wire so I'm assuming it would have to be ZigBee or zwave

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Hi... I'm Sanath... need some help as I'm unable to add / discover Google mini in Home Assistant. Currently on version 0.109.1 of Hass.io
Have the following settings in configuration.yaml.

media_player:
  - platform: cast
    host: 192.168.0.12

I have a google mini configured on my Google Home App and can connect to the same via the Google Home app.

However the above device is not discovered in HA after I restart the server.

glossy prism May 3, 2020, 1:51 AM

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@tardy otter that's not the correct configuration: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/cast/#advanced-use

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Cast devices are also supported by discovery

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 1:58 AM

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@glossy prism Thank you for your prompt response. I tried change the same to cast: media_player: - host: 192.168.0.12

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but not media_players are discovered

glossy prism May 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Anything in the log?

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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I'm a kind of new to things... I checked the home-assistant.log and all I see is
2020-05-03 11:57:13 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup of input_boolean is taking over 10 seconds.
2020-05-03 11:57:36 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.google_assistant.http] Request for https://homegraph.googleapis.com/v1/devices:requestSync failed: 404
2020-05-03 11:57:38 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Error doing job: Unclosed connection
2020-05-03 11:57:41 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.loader] You are using a custom integration for nodered which has not been tested by Home Assistant. This component might cause stability problems, be sure to disable it if you experience issues with Home Assistant.
2020-05-03 11:57:42 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.translation] nodered: the '.translations' directory has been moved, the new name is 'translations', starting with Home Assistant 0.111 your translations will no longer load if you do not move/rename this
2020-05-03 11:58:32 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.google_assistant.http] Request for https://homegraph.googleapis.com/v1/devices:reportStateAndNotification failed: 404

glossy prism May 3, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Check developer tools > states or Configuration > entities for media_player. entities

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 2:06 AM

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not there

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I mean it is not appearing in that

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🙂

glossy prism May 3, 2020, 2:07 AM

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That's...weird. Did you try with discovery first? Configuration > integrations

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Might need to remove your cast configuration first

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I see the Google Cast Integration in the integration list... but there are no devices in there...

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or entities in it

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my GH mini has a static IP assigned to it..

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this used to work... until yday.... when the device disappeared

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I did upgrade HA to the latest version yday...

glossy prism May 3, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Hmm. Try updating to 0.109.3

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 2:12 AM

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I can see .2 on my Dashboard... will try that and see

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Should work fine, I have three Google home devices configured like that, though on 108.9

slender bluff May 3, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Hi guys!

I want to mount my fire HD 10 directly on the wall...
There is a flush-mounted box directly underneath it.
I want the charging cable to come directly out of the wall, no visible wiring...
Is there a cheaper option for that than for example this: https://amzn.to/3f9ZJGt ?

Thanks!

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Unless you make it yourself, probably not

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 6:34 AM

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ok so continuing from my last message... installed 0.109.3... restarted.. installed Google Cast Integration... restarted... added cast: media_player: - host: 192.168.0.12

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i still cannot see any media player entities on HA.... (only expect to see one)

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 6:50 AM

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You're looking in devtools ->_ States_?

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 7:07 AM

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looked there as well...

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 7:08 AM

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And no media_player. entities at all?

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Then there should be an error in the logs

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Hi @fringe moon nothing in the log file... and no media_player entity at all...

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this is very strange....

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I just restarted the server... let me post the log file output

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Other than this error there is nothing else 2020-05-03 17:45:09 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.google_assistant.http] Request for https://homegraph.googleapis.com/v1/devices:reportStateAndNotification failed: 404

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 8:17 AM

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That is very strange

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One of my Google homes is disconnected, and the error for that shows up like this 2020-05-03 08:17:31 ERROR (Thread-11) [pychromecast.socket_client] [192.168.1.34:8009] Failed to connect, retrying in 5.0s

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So one would expect an error like that if you don't see any media devices

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 8:29 AM

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hmmm.... it is as if it is not seeing the media_player device which I have added.... what could cause this potentially?

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hence not even trying to connect and throw an error?

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 8:30 AM

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I have no idea tbh, what loglevel do you have? Should have it at atleast warn to see those

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 8:37 AM

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I have the default level... let me find how to change the logging level

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going to go with this and see what info comes through logger: default: info

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 8:49 AM

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Yep, set that to warn

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Actually, leave it at info 😉

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It produces more than at warn, and is often useful for spotting problems that don't make it up to WARN or ERROR

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Ok so the only warn I get is 2020-05-03 18:46:52 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.ban] Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from 27.96.221.77

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Doh, I'm backwards haha

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 8:59 AM

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and `2020-05-03 18:46:47 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.google_assistant.http] Request for https://homegraph.googleapis.com/v1/devices:requestSync failed: 404'

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🙂

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 8:59 AM

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I have no idea why your Google home is not showing up though

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 9:00 AM

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2020-05-03 18:46:17 INFO (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setting up media_player
2020-05-03 18:46:17 INFO (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup of domain media_player took 0.1 seconds.
2020-05-03 18:46:17 INFO (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.media_player] Setting up media_player.cast

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Do you have a media_player.cast in states then?

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 9:01 AM

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I have 4 Home Assistant Cast Users created now in teh Users list

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I have 0 items with the string media in states or entities...

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wail

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The Google Cast integration appears under the Integrations list with 0 devices and entities...

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why do I have 4 Home Assistant Cast Users... ?

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every time I remove and add the cast integration it adds a user

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:08 AM

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josepHHM

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Cast user?

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I think I have noone of those

cunning cypress May 3, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Can anyone recommend any blind controls units? I’ve seen soma, what’s everyone using?

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 9:21 AM

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@fringe moon yep... Exact name is Home Assistant Cast...

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:25 AM

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I'm curious @tardy otter are you running HA in docker?

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If so, you need host mode to talk to cast devices I believe

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`Cast devices can only be discovered and connected to if they are on the same subnet as Home Assistant.

When running Home Assistant Core in a Docker container, the command line option --net=host or the compose file equivalent network_mode: host must be used to put it on the host’s network, otherwise the Home Assistant Core will not be able to connect to any Cast device.`

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 9:27 AM

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They've specified the IP manually too ... https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/672223433907765288/706393317071650816

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 9:27 AM

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its running as a VM on a windows box.... everything is on the same subset

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the weirdest thing was this was working fine a few days ago.... then it was showing unknown device... since yday...

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I deleted the entity on HA and this is my attempt to add this back

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:33 AM

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What VM platform? Virtualbox in bridge?

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 9:33 AM

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yes

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:34 AM

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I'm out of ideas peepoShrug

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Nothing in logs, nothing in states

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Makes no sense

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 9:34 AM

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yes... I agree...

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Gremlins...

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:35 AM

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goblinSipp

turbid bear May 3, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Can I use a Nest Mini as a simple media_player (for TTS) without having to sign up with Google?

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Well, no, it's linked to your Google account

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:36 AM

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You would have to use a Google account to configure it

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 9:36 AM

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If you cut it off from the Internet it will stop working after a while

turbid bear May 3, 2020, 9:36 AM

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Buggers. Any other ideas for a nice little speaker for announcements?

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Any Chromecast audio would work, if you could get you hands on one

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haha

turbid bear May 3, 2020, 9:37 AM

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That still does not give me a speaker?

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Sure, it has audio out

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 9:37 AM

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You're looking for something fully stand-alone?

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Probably then it's DIY with a Pi time...

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There's conflicting reports on the Home stopping without Internet though 🤷

turbid bear May 3, 2020, 9:38 AM

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Right. It is a bit exorbitant to dedicate one of my Sonos for announcements.

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:38 AM

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Or a old android phone with some software on it

tardy otter May 3, 2020, 9:38 AM

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any advice on how I can clean up this having multiple Home Assistant Cast Users ?

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:41 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/lannouncer/ @turbid bear

turbid bear May 3, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Thanks, I do not have any Android devices though (and I would think the sound quality would probably be bad for loud announcements). Would be good if hassio could talk to a portable bluetooth speaker.

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 9:46 AM

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I'm sure one year some developer will create such a component... though given there's a range of media player integrations that talk to software that can use BT speakers, maybe more add-on worthy

turbid bear May 3, 2020, 9:47 AM

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I do have an old Squeezebox Radio but it requires me to run a server :-/. Oh well. Thanks for the input.

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 9:49 AM

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The server is pretty lightweight - maybe somebody has done an add-on?

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Yeah, squeezebox can run on a water bottle haha

obsidian fjord May 3, 2020, 10:15 AM

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hello, i don't know if i am in the good channel. On first installation, my NAS synology was discovered and i approuved that, know i want to remove it because no data are interresting. How to do it ? ther is no line in configuration file

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 10:16 AM

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configuration -> Integrations

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Find the integration, go into it, and use the trashcan in the top right

obsidian fjord May 3, 2020, 10:17 AM

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easy... thanks 👍

obsidian fjord May 3, 2020, 1:49 PM

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i have a mistake on with my WebTV LG integration. i put this line on configuration.yaml
webostv: host: 192.168.0.x name: TV LG Salon turn_on_action: service: wake_on_lan.send_magic_packet data: mac: xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx message: "Turn on action" customize: sources: - livetv - youtube - netflix - "Set-top box"
tv whas found but when i click on Card, the source list is different, (LiveTV, Youtube, Netflix) Set-top box not displayed

winged knoll May 3, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Can you edit that and use code markup (https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/210298617-Markdown-Text-101-Chat-Formatting-Bold-Italic-Underline- ) or delete it and use a code share site (see the channel topic) - then we can see the formatting

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You'll also want to run a command line config check https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/troubleshooting/#problems-with-the-configuration

rough radish May 3, 2020, 2:48 PM

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anyone knows any Thermostat device that uses WiFi instead of bluetooth?

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I wanted one that had batery, without the need to plug it to power

proper fable May 3, 2020, 3:38 PM

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i have HA on a VM and i cant get the audio jack from the host machine to show in the HA guest instance, what am i doing wrong?

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it just shows dummy output

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 5:16 PM

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@rough radish WiFi = terrible battery life

zealous dune May 3, 2020, 5:32 PM

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life as in fruit fly life 😄

lean bison May 3, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@fringe moon hello your advice i tried to flash my switch. on the other hand my relay goes back in the form of two switches under tasmota and under Home assistant. I tried to add a cover mqtt on the other hand I have a single topic and two switch so impossible to drive the two at the same time do you have an opinion. i can share code or config

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I use this config https://templates.blakadder.com/loratap_SC400W.html and take this error :53 CMD: ShutterRelay1
20:53:53 MQT: command unknow

zealous dune May 3, 2020, 6:59 PM

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are you using a binary that actually has shutter support?

fringe moon May 3, 2020, 6:59 PM

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I have that exact switch I'm going to flash to control my window blinds

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hyperjoy

lean bison May 3, 2020, 7:21 PM

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@fringe moon it goes back into home assistant in the form of a cover or in the form of two switches

smoky ivy May 3, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I'm looking to boost the 433MHz RF transmit signal on the Sonoff RF bridge. Does anyone have any success with this?

drifting grove May 3, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Somebody experience with the Xiaomi mi bedside lamp 2

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?

dreamy karma May 4, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Can someone help with a tasmota switch, and the fact the MQTT will not allow me to turn it on or off from HA?

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IT shows up as a entity, but it is greyed out on the dashboard

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is there a debug log anywhere?

burnt cosmos May 4, 2020, 3:39 AM

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I want to connect multiple sensors through bluetooth to my RPi 4 by following guides online for bluez, blueman and bluepy. After the installations I couldn't make it work so I've uninstalled everything then reinstalled some programs and just walked in circles for a week. With all the issues I've been having I feel like I should perhaps try something else. Does anyone here have any suggestions for BLE gateways? Also if anyone has made a BLE gateway or mesh network with RPi, I'd be very thankful for advise or maybe a link to a good guide. Thank you!

lean bison May 4, 2020, 10:17 AM

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@fringe moon I found the solution, it was necessary to pass from the firmware tasmota 8.1.2 to 8.2.0 to have the shutter mode

undone haven May 4, 2020, 10:25 AM

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@burnt cosmos , what are you using the Bluetooth sensors for?

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Hi all. new HA user here, have set up HA successfully, picks up my local network devices like hue etc.

However i have a network IOT and network Camera, beside my internal network. Those are behind my firewall. So i looked some info and saw you can scan this range with nmap. However my first test was when i add the configuration, HA doesn't scan my local network anymore.

So basically what would be the best approach to have my IOT and Camera devices in HA. (besides moving everything in 1 lan.)

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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nmap is for presence detection, not integrating things

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In general, see the list of #integrations-archived on the site for how to set each up - the channel topic there links to the docs

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 10:54 AM

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nmap is for presence detection, not integrating things
@winged knoll thanks for clearing that up!

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 10:54 AM

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#cameras-archived can help with camers

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Most integrations aren't set up through the UI though, don't be surprised at that

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 10:55 AM

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Most integrations aren't set up through the UI though, don't be surprised at that
@winged knoll don't mind that, if i know how to add the device. But there's no other option to "auto-scan" just like for the local network?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 10:55 AM

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~irc 😉

bright jacinthBOT May 4, 2020, 10:55 AM

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Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 10:55 AM

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There are some, but they're fully automated, and only work on the local network

bright jacinthBOT May 4, 2020, 10:55 AM

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Discovery shouldn't be run in a production environment. Relying on discovery leaves the possibility that something may be missed or may be configured differently when it returns.

It is recommended to turn discovery on only to find new devices and retrieve the required information so that you can manually configure the devices.

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 10:55 AM

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Pfft, not that one

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/discovery

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/upnp

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zeroconf

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/ssdp/

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those are the "find things and let me add them" options, but generally speaking you have to chose to add things

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 10:56 AM

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ok, let's see if i can make sense of it for me

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Pick a thing you've got and I'll point you at it and how to find it

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 10:57 AM

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first thing now is a hiksvision camera (have irobot and evohome in the iot network also)

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Then ... https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations#camera

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 10:58 AM

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if i have one example i can use the same steps for the others

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Start typing "hikvision" into the search box, or just scroll down

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That one finds two, a binary sensor, and a motion sensor

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 10:59 AM

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omg, now i see why i couldn't get any results before.. i'm always mixing up hikSvision... 🙂

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 10:59 AM

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In this case though, for a camera, you'll end up with https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/generic_ip_camera/

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(I use that with my HikVision, though I also have MotionEye in the loop doing motion detection, and Doods doing object detection)

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 11:03 AM

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ok, i'll see what i can do with it, thx for the guidance!

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 11:03 AM

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No worries

heavy mountain May 4, 2020, 11:40 AM

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json question. How do point to the 'Temperature' value here: tele/sonoff/SENSOR = {"Time":"2020-05-04T21:39:56","Switch2":"OFF","DHT11":{"Temperature":14.0,"Humidity":22.0},"ADS1115":{"A0":17728,"A1":4112,"A2":4192,"A3":17744},"TempUnit":"C"}

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I'm getting the 'Switch2' value using: value_template: "{{ value_json.Switch2 }}"

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but how do I read a 'nested' value?

zealous dune May 4, 2020, 11:42 AM

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{{ value_json['DHT11'].Temperature }}

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there are other ways too but this is a safe one

burnt cosmos May 4, 2020, 1:29 PM

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@undone haven they're 6 axis, humidity, UV and temperature.

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 3:51 PM

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i have a binary sensor working well, i cant seem to add any more though.
im guessing this is due to my config below. What should I add/remove please?
https://pastebin.com/R0uQj3VF

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the log says 'Entity id already exists - ignoring: binary_sensor.switch' but Im not so sure how to fix it

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Change switch: to something sensible, like underfloor_heating:, central_heating:, etc 😉

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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ok - I thought it had to be switch - because it was monitoring the condition of a switch.

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guess not -

azure crown May 4, 2020, 4:07 PM

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anybody know how to show tuya mcu battery devices with their last status? I have tasmotised Digoo door sensor, and because of battery saving, it doesn't update status often enough via mqtt, therefore it shows "unavailable" after show while.

ember wing May 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I have a few devices on a zwave network and would like to add more, including standard porch light and backyard floodlights. Both are on standard switch's that control light, but I'd like the switch to be on zwave as well as possible a color changing bulb for the porch. How would zwave interact with zwave light? Obviously both need to be continuously powered, so I'm having trouble finding a solution.

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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#zwave-archived would be the place to ask - and the answer is depends 😉

reef flax May 4, 2020, 4:56 PM

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i added a SONOFF basic using mqtt platform (trying to configure without autodiscovery). Device appears in entities list (and not under MQTT integration devices), i can contol with mqtt, but the homeassistant.toggle and switch.turn_on services have no effect. no errors reported. is this expected?

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autodiscovery worked fine on all of these devices, but i'm trying to learn to do it manually. thx

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Depends on the domain of the entity...

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switch.banana is a switch domain entity, and will respond to switch. services

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of course, the other possibility is that your command topics/messages are wrong 😉

reef flax May 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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ah - then is homeassistant.toggle is for the auto-discovered devices?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 4:58 PM

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That should work on anything that can be toggled, but ... you've not told us the entity_id so we're just guessing 😉

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If it's a switch it should work

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And if it doesn't then your topic/message is wrong

reef flax May 4, 2020, 5:01 PM

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switch:
  - platform: mqtt
    name: "sonoffalthea"
    state_topic: "switches/Althea/cmnd/STATE"
    command_topic: "switches/Althea/cmnd/POWER"
    payload_on: "ON"
    payload_off: "OFF"
    optimistic: false
    qos: 0
    retain: true

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reef flax May 4, 2020, 5:01 PM

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testing state topic right now.

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and HassBot schooled me on how to include code on discord 🙂

reef flax May 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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is the entity_id "switch:"? also, when i publish: switches/Althea/cmnd/STATE, I get switches/Althea/stat/RESULT in response. Does that verify my "state_topic"?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 5:21 PM

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switch.sonoffalthea probably

reef flax May 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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got it. yes thats it

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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As for the topics, I'd check the docs for that device, I'd expect that the STATE topic returns ON and OFF not an MQTT topic

reef flax May 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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duh - sorry - was confused with entity_id being a set parameter. I get that all entities have a platform.name id

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"switches/Althea/cmnd/POWER" returns 'ON' or 'OFF'. Plugged that in and the services switch.turn_on still not working.

paper swan May 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Looking for a wireless monitor that does temp, humidity and air quality (if this exists). US, no budget. Open to building something. Any recommendations?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Temperature and humidity are easy, Xiaomi WSDCGQ11LM is the cheap option

paper swan May 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Awesome, I'm down for that if I can't find a combo of something. Is ebay the best option to purchase those?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I get mine from AliExpress

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/MCLH-08.html may also be an option

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I have a camera that just streams video on a ip address, but not sure how to add it to home assistant, it says in the tutorial to add this to yaml configuration file but which one, not sure where it's located ```camera:

platform: generic
name: Host instance camera feed
still_image_url: https://127.0.0.5:8123/api/camera_proxy/camera.live_view```

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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It says to add it to configuration.yaml 😉

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You only have one of those for HA, in your config folder

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That however won't be right, since you've given it the stream URL in the image URL config

reef flax May 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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got it! my command was wrong.

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and i was started the command with "/"... oops!

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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😄

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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So this configuration.yaml is located on the device on which i installed home assistant?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Yes

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/

bright jacinthBOT May 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Not sure which install you're using? If you have add-ons, or see references to either Hass.io or Supervisor, then you're using #330944238910963714. If you're running natively in Docker or in a venv then you have the #672217570283094017 install method

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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If you need help, see the relevant channel

reef flax May 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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now the real question, Tinkerer, is: Is there any value to using auto-discovery for these SONOFF switches, if i don't mind configuring them all manually? do I lose any functionality by defining manually?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Just means you get new ones without restarting HA

reef flax May 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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They don't seem to show up in the devices list in the UI. Is this expected?

bright jacinthBOT May 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Not every entity in your system is associated with a Device. If you want to see everything, look under Developer Tools then States or in the Entities menu under Configuration.

reef flax May 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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They do appear on the entities list. They DO NOT appear under the MQTT integration where the auto-discovered devices were listed. is the MQTT integration just for auto discovered devices?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Ish

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The answer is complicated, but managed by the integration and has a unique_id

lucid silo May 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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how do you customize states im want to see motion not an 8

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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You don't

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You create a template binary sensor

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The Z-Wave docs have an example for you 😉

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https://home-assistant.io/docs/z-wave/entities/

lucid silo May 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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thanks

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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You might find that you can set binary reporting in your #zwave-archived device

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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binary_sensor:
  - platform: template
    sensors:
      kitchen_sensor_motion:
        value_template: "{{ is_state('sensor.kitchen_sensor_alarm_level', '8') }}"
        friendly_name: "Motion Sensor (KITCHEN)"
        device_class: motion
        entity_id: sensor.kitchen_sensor_alarm_level

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Pretty much

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The last line is redundant I think, but does no harm to leave in

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I wondered about that the other day.. all my examples had it in there but it seemed redundant

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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You normally only need it if you want the template to be evaluated when another entity updates (not the one in the template) or the template has no entities in it

drifting grove May 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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@lucid silo My kitchen example

lucid silo May 4, 2020, 6:12 PM

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thank you

reef flax May 4, 2020, 6:20 PM

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by "managed by the integration" do you mean, its using the mqtt platform? I added a unique_id to the config:

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- platform: mqtt
  name: "sonoffalthea"
  unique_id: 12345
  state_topic: "switches/Althea/cmnd/POWER"
  command_topic: "switches/Althea/cmnd/POWER"
  payload_on: "ON"
  payload_off: "OFF"
  optimistic: false
  qos: 0
  retain: true

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in my mqtt: config, i have discovery: true and dicovery_prefix: homeassistant. Is that why the auto discovered devices operate under the homeassistant.toggle service?

rancid sable May 4, 2020, 6:41 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/672223433907765288/706393317071650816, Hi everyone, I'm having the same issue with chromecast. MY device just disappear, and after deleting the integration, and re-creating it it's not showing up anymore, no errors in the logs.. very weird. Any thoughts on this issue?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 6:59 PM

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The unique_id is only valid if you're using Discovery @reef flax

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@rancid sable are your devices on the same subnet as HA? You're not running some weird mDNS setup that doesn't use .local?

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/672220541343760384/706824064039256117 for instance

rancid sable May 4, 2020, 7:06 PM

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No, same lan, no vlnas. Running HASSOS ona VBox VM. On 108 it was working fine, in 109 is not. hassio (10.0.0.3, ccast 10.0.0.16)...nothing in the logs.. HA just doesn't create the mediaplayer.ccast entity anymore.

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 7:06 PM

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I know things changed in 0.109, to do with mDNS, so this time it's probably a VBox related problem

rancid sable May 4, 2020, 7:08 PM

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ok..but it's weird since chromecast did not use any local DNS. Ccast use google public dns no matter what.

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also, i put in my cast config the ip address of the device, why it should be a dns problem then?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 7:09 PM

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mDNS is how cast finds them...

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mDNS != DNS

cerulean trail May 4, 2020, 7:10 PM

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DNS == broken
So mDNS is moreBroken?

rancid sable May 4, 2020, 7:10 PM

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ah ok .. but, putting the ip on the config will not make it find right away?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 7:10 PM

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It should, but ... for some reason it's not working for some folks

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There's no obvious common denominator, other than it seems to be all folks on non-standard #330944238910963714 installs, but not all of them

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So... again, no obvious common denominator

rancid sable May 4, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I see. Still my android phone see my cast device with no problem on the same network. My WIndows PC can cast with chrome.. and HA used to do it also.. just before 109. :-

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Yup, 0.109 changed the mDNS stuff, and something around that has caused problems for some people

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There's probably an issue about it, worth looking there

bright jacinthBOT May 4, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Want to see what issues are open (or were open and are now closed)?

Check issues for the backend, issues for the UI, and issues for the documentation.

rancid sable May 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Well thanks a lot. I think it's going to be a matter of waiting until things are resolved. I thought there should be a work around to fix it now, but its not a bis issue for me at the moment. Thanks for you responses. Have a great they!

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Well, nothing will be resolved if there's no open issues 😉

rancid sable May 4, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I'm looking for reports, if i can;t find one will open the issue myself. Thanks!

high yarrow May 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Is there a quick way to mass add devices to areas? When I go to an area, I can't add from there, and in order to add it from the device I have to go to the device page then the cog, then the area. Any help would be appreciated!

snow stream May 4, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Is there a quick way of creating and modifying groups through the UI other than editing the groups.yaml?

winged knoll May 4, 2020, 9:48 PM

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#integrations-archived would be where to ask that, but ... nope

winged knoll May 5, 2020, 7:01 AM

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~what @drifting grove

bright jacinthBOT May 5, 2020, 7:01 AM

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@verbal willow Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

Which country you're in
What your budget is
What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

winged knoll May 5, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Right one second time around 😄

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IMO, for general purpose use, you can't go wrong with Zigbee, but ... 🤷

drifting grove May 5, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Yeah i was considering Z-Wave or Zigbee

winged knoll May 5, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Zigbee is cheaper 😉

drifting grove May 5, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Here's my question from #general-archived , Which smart switches (Z-Wave / Zigbee) compatible with HA do folks recommend? I'm looking to connect these switches with Hue Bulbs to get started with. I'm living in the US, looking for something that ships inside US. Budget anywhere <=$30-$40 per switch.

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@winged knoll Thanks...which ones do u have? and how do you use them? I'm going after an idea where just one switch could cycle between different dimming states for a bulb.

winged knoll May 5, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Well, I'm in the UK, so that won't help you much 😛

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However, the Ikea ones are reasonably priced and seem popular

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https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ and https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_devices.html are useful lists

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I quite like my Hive plug, since it has local control. I've got a much smaller Salus plug I've yet to install, which also has local control

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Both report power usage too, which is nice

drifting grove May 5, 2020, 7:10 AM

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i see

toxic bloom May 5, 2020, 4:03 PM

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How do you reset tasmota sonoff basic device? So I can reconnect it

pale mantle May 5, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Is there a way to manage groups in the frontend yet that I just haven't found, or do you still need to do that using groups.yaml?

winged knoll May 5, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Nope, there was an editor once upon a time, but it was removed after a while - not sure why

pale mantle May 5, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Ok, thanks. Groups.yaml it is then. Although, seems that group management in the front end would be desirable.

jovial pulsar May 5, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Groups turned out to be a bit of a resource hog, and are largely superceded by lovelace and light groups.

winged knoll May 5, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Well, yes but no 😛

pale mantle May 5, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I don't follow, exactly, because I need groups for my automations.

winged knoll May 5, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Groups used to be used for everything, UI and more

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Now they're not used for the UI, though I'd say that light groups are but a tiny corner of group usage

lilac urchin May 6, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Good morning guys!
Can some one recommend a truly working Zigbee gateway for a Rasberry Pi 4.
A friend of mine has been using rasbee2 but that don't seem 100% supported on the new RpI.
So either he'll return it and get something else [WHAT?] or get an aquara GW ...

winged knoll May 6, 2020, 6:44 AM

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See #zigbee-archived 😉

lilac urchin May 6, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Thanks!

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:18 AM

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to continue on that @high spoke

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:18 AM

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alright

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yeah i assume it would be costly

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but since the dean suggested to do this for my masters i kinda expect uni to cover the expenses

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Where are youfrom?

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The thing is: Are the radiators old or new?

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Do they have thermostats on them already?

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:20 AM

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still i have to find best solution and consider both efficency and cost

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they are old

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i presume they dont

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:20 AM

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The valves

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are they simple ?

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Like

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Open or close?

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:21 AM

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as far as i know they are simple yeah, those that you screw left and right to open/close

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so those would have to be replaced

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+get the thermostats for each room, if i understand this correctly

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Exactly

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Yep

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:22 AM

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so what would be some examples of thermostats+valves i could use?

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:22 AM

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The problem is: you need a plumber to replace those.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:22 AM

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yeah that's not a problem 😄

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:22 AM

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It really depends on where you are from

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And what you want

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I don't have them myself , but i heard good stuff about honeywell HR92

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But

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I think you need to research some more

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And also conside the fact that it's used in class so it should be moderatly unbreakable.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:23 AM

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you mean so that the valves wouldn't break?

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:24 AM

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Well

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Kids/students break everything.

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the thermostat

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:24 AM

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well first test implementation will be in dean's offices

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so professor's cabinets and such

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don't expect them to break those 😄

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:25 AM

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I know

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or

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for a building you could check KNX

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which is stable

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:27 AM

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that's an already complete system i suppose

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:27 AM

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KNX is a protocol

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Wired, and the only one that is NEN/ISO certified.

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I've finished a minor in Domotics.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:28 AM

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aha

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nice

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maybe i should explain a bit more what exactly i'm trying to achieve

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Following convo. I’m interested I radiator valves as well. Curious what technologies you’re looking at (zwave, Bluetooth, zigbee, WiFi)

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Or diy

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Neither @hidden wharf

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Best for radiator is to buy it from a manufacturer that knows it

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As you have the CV involved.

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HVAC*

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Im asumming we’re just talking about TRVs assuming radiators already exist.

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Yep

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But ideally you want the controller to speak with the HVAC

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If the HVAC is at 18 degrees

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and you put your rad at 20

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that wouldn't move shit.

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:32 AM

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But trvs five room based control for a have system that is already running and removes the need to look at an overall temp

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:32 AM

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What's a TRV?

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Five = give (on phone)

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:32 AM

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i want the system to follow school's schedule (when professors are in their cabinets, when classrooms are occupied, etc.). Based on each room I would calculate for each room how long it needs to heat to desired temp (based on current temp, desired temp, room volume, radiator heating rate) and turn valves before classes start or professors come in. If room won't be occupied anymore or for a longer period of time, radiators should be turned off and then back on, based on previous requirement.

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:33 AM

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@high spoke Interesting case.

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There is only one flaw.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:33 AM

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hit me

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:33 AM

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What if class is canceled?

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Thermostatic radiator valve. A doodacky that sits in a radiator in a room and when below temp allows hot water into that particular radiator

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:33 AM

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What if class is put in

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@hidden wharf Ah yes. Alright. But: the overal temp is mostly controlled by a HVAC controller in 1 room(old way to do it). What happens then is that you do need that HVAC controlelr to work with the rads in order to achieve the heat.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:34 AM

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the schedule is online, so if that change is also changed on the schedule, it should notify the radiators

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:34 AM

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I think that should be achievable

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But needs some thought to it

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Anyway, i would suggest checking KNX (because of the scale)

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Or the honeywells. but you need to look into reviews.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:35 AM

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so honeywells can be done over HA, and KNX is it's own integration?

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Yes

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:36 AM

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@marsh sail with trvs you kinda ignore a system wide setting as if all valves are closed, system runs but has very little water to heat (water is normally heated to 60 deg c)

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:36 AM

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and what valves/thermostats are useable with knx?

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:36 AM

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You gotta look into that

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I have no clue

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Also: IT has substantinal costs.

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KNX is not cheap

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:37 AM

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yeah, i presume using HA would be more cost effective

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:37 AM

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But unstable

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As compared to KNX

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:37 AM

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can you explain why it would be unstable?

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Exactly. I know of evo homes, zwave ones. Bluetooth ones and others. Battery operated or mains powered.

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:38 AM

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@hidden wharf That sounds okay ish, but i really doubt that you wouldn't want to controll that 60 deg.

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KNX is always working

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Always

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HA has to many influences

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And not unimportant: KNX is certified by NEN / ISO

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You wouldn't want to say "Sorry dean, my RPI is broken so school is cold today"

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:38 AM

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No the boiler does that. You just turn on the entire system (I do this at my house with a zwave relay. When average temp under 18 degrees turn on boiler). You don’t care what the water temp it

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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what's RPI

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Raspberry pi

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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ah yes

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Moving to smart trvs just allow you to work at a room level not at a system level

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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@hidden wharf Wouldn't work for my home env, i don't have a boiler.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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how likely is it for rpi to break tho?

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:40 AM

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It's not the RPI

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but HA

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after a update or so

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:40 AM

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No, as I said at the start of the convo. I was assuming radiators and boiler etc existed as @high spoke was asking about devices for radiators

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:40 AM

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You need stability in a environment

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The other thing thats unknown here: the shcool might have a huge boiler or so

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Which would be running all day and poss all night.

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Probably

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which would make your idea viable

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Especially during winter. The heat up time might be an hour for water to filter to all radiators in the entire system over a whole school. Radiators are a closed loop. Cold in, heated to 60, and moves under pressure to each radiator. The. Ends up back at the boiler where it’s reheated back to 60

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:42 AM

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so, isn't it possible to lock the system down? so updates happen when i want them to

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:43 AM

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@high spoke It is possible.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:43 AM

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so that would make it more stable, right?

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Nope

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Part of your master is making the best decision right, not the cheapest :p?

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:44 AM

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yes ofc

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i need to consider both

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Read into the working

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:45 AM

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the working what? 😄

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:45 AM

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How a HVAC works :p

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as @hidden wharf notices: that loop (as its cold)

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But you might want to figure out what a good "holding" temp is, so you don't lose allot of energy.

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Making water to 60 from 20 deg is way harder than making 60 from 40 for example.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:46 AM

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yeah ofc

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Sp you’d do something like if outside temp below 18 degrees c - turn on then boiler

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:47 AM

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i won't be doing anything with the boiler

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:47 AM

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If class scheduled in the next hour, set room trv for 20 degrees for arga. sake

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Im afk a bit

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Ok good one less thing to worry about

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:48 AM

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alright ,thanks @marsh sail

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yeah i just need to open and close valves

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that's it 😄

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:48 AM

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So you are gong wanting to care about a room not the entire system

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Gong = only

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Where in the world are you?

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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slovenia 😄

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Ok so are radiators common over there?

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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yeah

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that's the normal way of heating

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not hvac

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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I ask cos over here in my country they Are not, so smart trvs do not exist

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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yeah i understand

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:51 AM

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So things like danfoss might be available. And evo home are two brands I know of from the UK. I think there are zwave, which might be usable and that creates a mesh network

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Or a WiFi option might better suit. But poss uses more battery power.

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Given your country and mine, you’d need to do the research into what technologies are available To you

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And as long as there is manual overrides then I think you could set something up based on class schedules.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:53 AM

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yeah i just need to ping valves to turn on/off based on schedule

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that's basically it

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:54 AM

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That’s what these things do

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:54 AM

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okay zwave has slovenian site 😂

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:55 AM

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https://www.theheatinghub.co.uk/smart-radiator-valves-product-and-compatibility-guide

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UK based. But some of it might be relevant - and easier than me typing on a phone

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😆

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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so i would need this for each radiator https://zwave.si/index.php?_route_=thermostats/radiatorthermostats/AEOEZWA021

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it already has temperature sensor integrated

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so no need for extra temp sensor per room

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i guess?

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but it would be better if temperature wasn't measure directly near the radiator 😂

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Yeah. Zwave is generally not the cheapest. And yes. It includes temp. You could add extra as well since you have control over it. But why bother

high spoke May 6, 2020, 7:58 AM

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50€ doesn't seem too much for 1 valve

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cheaper than others i have looked at so far

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like nest is 150€ 😄

winged knoll May 6, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Just watch, with Z-Wave and Zigbee you need mains powered repeaters

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 7:59 AM

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https://www.tado.com/gb/products/smart-radiator-starter-kit

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I think these ones use their own bridge...which over the distances and buildings you’re looking at is probably not suitable. Even zwave might be too short range

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I think WiFi might be what you’d want to look at.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 8:02 AM

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yeah i already thought about that

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i suppose RPI would be kept in the server/IT room

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and since building is big

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it might be a problem to reach the valves

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but there is wifi all over the building

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so that would be great, yeah

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 8:03 AM

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https://www.tektouch.net/WiFi/smart-wifi-radiator-valves.php

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Lists a bunch of products. Again lots of research needed.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 8:04 AM

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will cross reference those with HA

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 8:05 AM

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@high spoke What school you at over there?

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The problem with WiFi is, if Internet is out, so is your rad's

high spoke May 6, 2020, 8:06 AM

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true

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faculty of natural sciences

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university of maribor

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 8:11 AM

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@marsh sail not necessarily. If local WiFi control, the internet may not be needed. And I’d expect a school to have Poe APs (like unifi) that are independent to an internet gateway

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Meaning if internet down, school lan and wlan are still running

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 8:13 AM

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I know

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But even then

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 8:14 AM

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All my home automation stays running in the event of power and/or internet outage

high spoke May 6, 2020, 8:14 AM

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so tado (150£), honeywell (300£ for thermostat + 2 heads), Lightwave (35£ per head), netatmo (64£ perhead)

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those are my options based on HA

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those ahve wifi

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 8:15 AM

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As above you should look a little further in and make sure they’re not cloud dependent.

high spoke May 6, 2020, 8:15 AM

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yeah i will

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 8:15 AM

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@high spoke I' have a mug of your school ;D

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I've attended the bled econference in 2018

high spoke May 6, 2020, 8:15 AM

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lol wat

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haha

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nice

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 8:15 AM

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I spoke there on the Students Bazar

high spoke May 6, 2020, 8:16 AM

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cool

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where you from? 😄

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 8:16 AM

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NL

high spoke May 6, 2020, 8:16 AM

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dope

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pun intended?

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Where is NL?

high spoke May 6, 2020, 8:17 AM

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across the sea

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Netherlands 🙂

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Netherlands?

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Ahh good guess by me. I was trying to figure out if it was a us state

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Where are you from?

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Wellington New Zealand.

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Wow!

fringe moon May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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I've been there

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25 years ago

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 9:14 AM

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You’ve been here?

fringe moon May 6, 2020, 9:17 AM

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yes

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wellington and auckland

hidden wharf May 6, 2020, 9:27 AM

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From where did you originate?

tame edge May 6, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Hi all, I really think I tried it all. I have 2 Ikea on/off switches connected trough deconz, wit one I can make automations, with the other not. The switch is available in my devices, but when I try to create Automations it says there are no triggers. Deleted, vnc deletion, reset, reboot, nothing works. When I check my eventslog it shows it registers the on/off clicks and all. What can I do next?

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 9:27 AM

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#zigbee-archived

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But: quick answer: probably not paired correctly.

fringe moon May 6, 2020, 9:28 AM

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@hidden wharf Tromsø, Norway

tame edge May 6, 2020, 9:29 AM

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O sorry for the wrong channel

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I will go there! Thanks anyways 😄

fringe moon May 6, 2020, 9:38 AM

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@mortal minnow zigbee == cheap and many devices, open standard so not everything plays as nice, zwave == 4x price of zigbee, less devices, semi closed standard, so devices mostly play nice

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wifi == horrible for battery life

mortal minnow May 6, 2020, 9:38 AM

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zigbee supports on/off status?

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or is it as dumb as RF?

fringe moon May 6, 2020, 9:38 AM

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no, it's smart

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you can poll states, poll power draw (if supported) and they also extend your network by creating a mesh network

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same with zwave

mortal minnow May 6, 2020, 9:40 AM

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okay. would you happen to know a zigbee and z-wave brand that has some of these built in swtiches,dimmers etc? Then I can find comparable ones and create a financial impact study 😄

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with HA I can target both? Z-wave and zigbee? Or Z-Wave is too closed for that?

fringe moon May 6, 2020, 9:41 AM

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both work fine, with multiple implementations for each

bright jacinthBOT May 6, 2020, 9:41 AM

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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI. It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on for Hass.io, in a Docker container, and natively, with no native UI. It uses MQTT for control and configuration, but there are third party UIs. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zwave/
https://www.home-assistant.io/hassio/zwave/

winged knoll May 6, 2020, 9:43 AM

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See #zigbee-archived and #zwave-archived - Zigbee is always cheaper than Z-Wave, Z-Wave is usually more configurable and interoperable (between brands)

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 9:45 AM

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PickYourStick!

winged knoll May 6, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Pick your integration 😛

marsh sail May 6, 2020, 9:50 AM

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VindYourInt?

winged knoll May 6, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Strong like ox. Smart like ox

drifting grove May 6, 2020, 2:26 PM

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hello everyone i am new and i am trying to learn i wanted to know if it is possible to create an automation that allows me with a single switch to turn on two more swiches
sorry for my english
thanks

toxic bloom May 6, 2020, 2:39 PM

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How to reset sonoff basic on tasmota

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Can't connect onto it

winged knoll May 6, 2020, 2:41 PM

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You tried asking the folks on the Tasmota Discord?

toxic bloom May 6, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Ok thanks

gritty zinc May 6, 2020, 4:04 PM

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My knowledge of electrics is fairly limited so I want to check my understanding. If I want to replace a 2-way lighting circuit (i.e. switch at top and bottom of stairs controlling the same light), am I right in thinking that a switch like this would only complete a 1-way circuit and that any additional switches would have to work remotely (via Zigbee, etc)?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07ZM2RDZT/?coliid=I3KDWFAXF0RY3E&colid=3IALGVO69QTHB&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

winged knoll May 6, 2020, 4:06 PM

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What I'd suggest is that you get a Zigbee dimmer/switch module that goes by the light if possible. Wire the switches to that module, and then the light is controlled directly from the module

gritty zinc May 6, 2020, 4:07 PM

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That was the initial plan until I discovered that even a Sonoff Mini wouldn't fit in the light fixtures. The missus would go a little OCD if the wall switches were in the wrong position compared to the state of the lights, so I'd prefer not to have modules behind the switch itself.

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Plus, I'm in the UK and have no neutral wire to my switches which severely limits my options 😦

winged knoll May 6, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Tell me about it 😄

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But, the module can go in the ceiling space rather than behind a switch

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You could also replace the switches with momentary switches to avoid the position problem

gritty zinc May 6, 2020, 4:10 PM

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I had a feeling it would mean replacing the switches with momentary switches, which is why I'd started looking at products like the one I linked. I don't have many places in my house where I care about multiple switches per light, so they seem almost ideal.

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I think I only have two circuits where it would matter and one rarely gets used (and could probably even be replaced by motion/contact sensors since it's just the porch area).

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I take it you mean something simple like this one? https://www.screwfix.com/p/schneider-electric-lisse-10ax-1-gang-2-way-retractive-switch-white-with-white-inserts/5729j

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Ah, and of course Screwfix don't have a 2-gang version 😄

broken crescent May 6, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Hey everyone 🙂 what would be the recommendation for a device for interfacing via IR and RF with older devices? With some kind of learning/training..

fringe moon May 6, 2020, 5:53 PM

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@broken crescent broadlink mini 3 works nicely for me, with smartir custom component in HA

broken crescent May 6, 2020, 5:54 PM

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that's IR only right?

fringe moon May 6, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Aye, I think there is an ir RF too, but I don't use RF for anything except temperature sensors, so moving that to esphome soon

gritty zinc May 6, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Argh. The hardware side of all this confuses me to no end. Can't wait to find some switches that actually fit the bill so I can get back to the fun stuff (writing the automations!)

For the switches I linked earlier... if I connected 1 gang of a 2-gang switch to a bulb and left the other disconnected, would it be a safe bet that pressing the disconnected switch would still fire an event off across Zigbee? I'm hoping so, and that I could have a 1-gang switch upstairs where there's only one light to be controlled, and the 2-gang switch downstairs controlling one light directly and one indirectly.

winged knoll May 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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If they support Binding then yes

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#zigbee-archived would be a good place to ask more about Zigbee though

tall inlet May 6, 2020, 7:40 PM

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are there any better solutions (that don't require me to open the panel) for pressing this elevator button than the Switchbot?

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https://imgur.com/a/kb4oTS3

wet moat May 6, 2020, 8:14 PM

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does it need physically depressed or is it more like a touch (static charge) button

tall inlet May 6, 2020, 9:03 PM

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it needs to be physically pressed

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but doesn't go deep

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just needs a couple mm's to get pushed

wet moat May 6, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Oh man. Good luck

tall inlet May 6, 2020, 9:10 PM

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thx xd

tall inlet May 6, 2020, 9:48 PM

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How do bluetooth devices that can't connect to the actual machine running the HA server work?

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if I have a raspberry zero that is in range instead

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What should/can you use to connect that bluetooth device to the HA server

heavy pond May 6, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Hi All, is there anyone here using the Xiaomi Gateway and the Xiaomi Zigbee wall plugs? I recently blocked internet for the gateway from my router and noticed that the load_power values for these plugs stop working. They start working if I unblock the gateway. Is this expected behaviour?

random edge May 7, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Hello All: Trying to find a good HVAC (USA w/Heat/cool) Thermostat for HA.... I have a newer home with (2) Carrier COR 7C wifi Thermostats that work with the App, however they state they can work through Ecobee API, but no luck. Even after opening tickets with Carrier and Ecobee.
Question: Is there a good Thermostat that folks would suggest that works Zigbee / Z-Wave / MQTT (no cloud required) that would directly replace my current wifi until to integrate into my HA system?

thin flint May 7, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Is there a way to add like my garage door ask for a pin when I ask Google to open or closing is there a way to add that feature to other devices so my kids can't just say it without giving it the pin

heavy pond May 7, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Is there a way to add like my garage door ask for a pin when I ask Google to open or closing is there a way to add that feature to other devices so my kids can't just say it without giving it the pin
@thin flint I think this is what you need. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/google_assistant/#secure_devices_pin

thin flint May 7, 2020, 3:09 AM

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@heavy pond Thanks

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question is can you do this with something that's integrations

hidden wharf May 7, 2020, 5:47 AM

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@heavy pond mine have been blocked from the internet since forever but I notice I still get power readings. However I’m primarily openHAB and use the xiaomi binding in thats. So it must be possible to get the values. I expect the code is similar . Maybe gateway/firmware dependent?

stone sand May 7, 2020, 10:53 AM

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So i want to get a Sonoff basic relay

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is installing Tasmota on it easy?

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or i need to open it up and use UART connectors n stuff to flash firmware on it?

winged knoll May 7, 2020, 10:55 AM

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https://github.com/arendst/Tasmota covers it, and the Tasmota Discord can give more help I'm sure

stone sand May 7, 2020, 10:56 AM

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Do i even need to Install Tasmota to use the device with HomeAssistant?

winged knoll May 7, 2020, 11:03 AM

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https://github.com/peterbuga/HASS-sonoff-ewelink is one of your options

true pelican May 7, 2020, 6:14 PM

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hello, is there a recommend list of devices that integrate well with HA?

winged knoll May 7, 2020, 6:18 PM

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See the list of integrations to start with

frank mica May 7, 2020, 8:06 PM

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anyone use Iblinds? was really disappointed to find out they dont work with Home Assistant since them not working properly with ST was the motivation to switch. I assumed they would just work since they are Zwave devices and can operate like dimmer switches but it looks like its a lot of issues: https://support.myiblinds.com/community/home-assistant/configuring-home-assistant-and-iblinds/ 😦

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they say: "I'm hoping that after this solution has been tested an HA user can get this update pushed to the HA Z-Wave database so future users will not be required to make these updates. " - how would i confirm if that database has been updated?

lilac cedar May 7, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Can I use the power readings from a sonoff pow to detect the power state of a tv in home assistant

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I want to use it in automations that are triggered when the TV turns on and off

winged knoll May 7, 2020, 8:41 PM

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@marsh hamlet I quite like my https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/WXKG12LM.html - but I have Zigbee already

marsh hamlet May 7, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Thanks,yes I have Zigbee

heavy pond May 7, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Thanks @hidden wharf , it could be to do with the firmware maybe. I had it running the latest gateway firmware before I blocked internet.

dire pewter May 8, 2020, 1:41 AM

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I flashed a Sonoff ifan03 with tasmota 8.2.0. Everything works great when controlled directly via browser. I have setoption19 on and the "switch" displays in HA with normal function, but I don't see the "fan" component in HA. Am I missing a place to configure the fan?

stoic vale May 8, 2020, 2:22 AM

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noob question... I bought Sengled Smart LEDs... do I need the sengled app, or another hub for HA to connect to, to configure them before HA will see them?

rugged heron May 8, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Is there a way to diagnose unsupported Samsung Smart TV models? My hass instance does this (https://imgur.com/a/080uOsL) but with the low loading time, it doesn’t seem to actually be doing anything. Is there a log to see more in depth what’s causing it not to be able to connect?

winged knoll May 8, 2020, 7:10 AM

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There are at least four custom components for Samsung TVs

rugged heron May 8, 2020, 7:14 AM

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@winged knoll Thanks--I'll take a look at those

tidal grotto May 8, 2020, 9:29 AM

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which has higher idle phantom power, Wifi cloud plug or Zigbee plug? Curious to know how much by but my energy plug only seems to pickup things over a few watts

zealous dune May 8, 2020, 9:30 AM

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depends

tidal grotto May 8, 2020, 9:30 AM

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on?

zealous dune May 8, 2020, 9:30 AM

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features and software running on the chips

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zigbee is inherently lower powered standard

tidal grotto May 8, 2020, 9:31 AM

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yeah, I believe it be zigbee but be intrested to see how much by over a year

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x10 plug

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Is there deivces that can gauge power on the low wattage side?

zealous dune May 8, 2020, 9:31 AM

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yes but they're expensive

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here's some ballpark numbers for wifi https://tasmota.github.io/docs/Energy-Saving/

tidal grotto May 8, 2020, 9:34 AM

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intresting, costs can be neglible if there powering off 6w phantom drawer in devices

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Any new plugs i buy are ikea zigbe, £10 and work with my hue hub or if wanted deconz

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So thats tasmota no cloud, looks like cloud plugs like smart life £8 are 1.5-2 watts, wheras zigbee is 0.3-0.6- https://iot.stackexchange.com/questions/608/how-much-power-do-smart-sockets-consume-themselves

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for 0.14pkw that £1.71 each plug more.

zealous dune May 8, 2020, 9:47 AM

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tasmota uses lighter weight mqtt protocol and soem optimisations in the core

tidal grotto May 8, 2020, 9:48 AM

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looks cool but bit to complicated.. too many steps for my liking

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you have a have a few things to do them

zealous dune May 8, 2020, 9:48 AM

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considering how the landscape is progressing zigbee has a very bright future

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but zigbee 3.0

tidal grotto May 8, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Teckin (smart life plugs) are same price as the ikea zigbee plugs at the moment (you can pickup teckin cheaper on offers)

zealous dune May 8, 2020, 9:50 AM

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teckin uses RTL chipset and you're locked into their ecosystem

drifting grove May 8, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Hi all, i have a question.
i got an DSMR reader hooked up to my VM server but i cant get any readings.

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i'm quit new to HA, is there any1 out there who can help me?

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it does shows at my entity's (sensor.current_phase_l1 unknown friendly_name: Current Phase L1)

bright jacinthBOT May 8, 2020, 3:00 PM

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If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

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Explain what the problem you're having is - sharing configuration, errors, and logs

hidden shell May 8, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@fringe moon / @lean bison ; I just got the US version of the switch you are also working with (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MYTFJG5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). Flash it with Tasmota 8.2 (shutter support), and configured it according to the directions listed on the template (https://templates.blakadder.com/loratap_SC400W.html). Everything seems to be working OK with the physical device itself; but I have not been able to properly configure this device in Home Assistant (mqtt.cover). Any luck on your end?

Prior to Tasmota with shutter support, I was using rules to publish mqtt messages (OPEN / CLOSE / STOP), and the below configuration will work; but now with shutter support in Tasmota, I am a little lost on how to make it work

  name: "Curtain French Door"
  command_topic: "patio-door-curtain/command"
  state_topic: "patio-door-curtain/status"
  availability_topic: "tele/patio-door-curtain/LWT"
  qos: 0
  retain: true
  payload_open: "open"
  payload_close: "close"
  payload_stop: "stop"
  state_open: "OPEN"
  state_closed: "CLOSE"
  payload_available: "Online"
  payload_not_available: "Offline"
  optimistic: false```

tidal grotto May 8, 2020, 3:12 PM

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teckin uses RTL chipset and you're locked into their ecosystem
@zealous dune yes I am comparing to say that ikea zigbee much better buy... even better if they update to zigbe 3.0 and stay £10

zealous dune May 8, 2020, 3:13 PM

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ZigBee is alwaysa better buy due to ability to go with your own local solution

marsh topaz May 8, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Does anyone have the dome auto shutoff valve? If so how do you like it

stoic hull May 8, 2020, 7:30 PM

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So how do I install this z-wave/zigbee dongle 🤔

winged knoll May 8, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Plug it in

stoic hull May 8, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Done. New config menu should show up, right?

winged knoll May 8, 2020, 7:31 PM

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For #zwave-archived see the #zwave-archived docs

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You still have to install the integration

stoic hull May 8, 2020, 7:31 PM

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👌

fierce anchor May 8, 2020, 11:49 PM

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where's the ha channel? general discussion?

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I wanted to upgrade to latest version tonight, not getting any response anymore from ha, not via cloud, not locally, I get this error in config: 2020-05-09 01:44:19 WARNING (zeroconf-ServiceBrowser__coap._udp.local.) [zeroconf] Exception occurred:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/zeroconf/init.py", line 2644, in send
bytes_sent = s.sendto(packet, 0, (real_addr, port))
PermissionError: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted

glossy prism May 8, 2020, 11:54 PM

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@fierce anchor ask in #330944238910963714 or #672217570283094017 based on how you installed home assistant. See the channel topics to determine which to post to

novel nebula May 9, 2020, 9:43 AM

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I by mistake disabled an entity. How do I get it back again? I tried re-add it in deconz with another name, but it wont show up. Think they share some unique id or something. :/

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Solved it by edit .storage/core.entity_registry and set disabled_by: to null.

lunar delta May 9, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Using an SDR to pull readings from my gas meter. Any idea what units an Itron 100G meter broadcasts in?

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I went from 168766 to 169000 consumption overnight. Way too much for it to be CCF

lunar delta May 9, 2020, 12:37 PM

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looks like i need to divide by 100 to match what's on the bill

gaunt oxide May 9, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Hi all can anyone help with mqtt - been pulling out my hair for a week now

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SDR -RTL_433

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I have got it to publish messages to Hassi "Message 1778 received on rtl_433/Oregon-v1/14/1/temperature_C at 4:50 PM:
24.1
QoS: 0 - Retain: false" but the sensor shows unknown

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config in yamal:

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gaunt oxide May 9, 2020, 2:54 PM

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'''- platform: mqtt
state_topic: "433/Oregon-v1/14/1"
name: "Temp OREGAN"
unit_of_measurement: "°C"
value_template: ‘{{ value_json.temperature_C }}’ '''

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rtl_433 -M -C -F mqtt://192.168.x.x:1883,retain=1,user=xxx,pass=xxx#,devices=rtl_433[/model][/subtype][/id][/channel]

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wet moat May 9, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Anything in ha logs?

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Maybe it's that degree symbol?

gaunt oxide May 9, 2020, 3:51 PM

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changed it to ''' - platform: mqtt
name: "Temperature-14002"
state_topic: "rtl_433/Oregon-v1/14/1/temperature_C"
unique_id: "14"
unit_of_measurement: 'C'
value_template: "{{ value_json.temperature_C }}'''

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now it shows Temperature-14002 C

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gaunt oxide May 9, 2020, 3:52 PM

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no value

drifting grove May 9, 2020, 6:27 PM

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This is probably a Philips Hue issue. But has anyone had trouble with getting brand new hue bulbs to work with Home Assistant?
i'm using the Nortek HUSBZB-1 Zigbee hub.

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i used hue-thief to factory reset the bulb and was able to add it to my Home Assistant Zigbee Network. But the light doesn't turn off or dim whatsoever.

winged knoll May 9, 2020, 6:28 PM

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#zigbee-archived would be the place to ask

devout quartz May 9, 2020, 7:00 PM

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somehow I broke a tasmota motion sensor after upgrading
Motion Switch2 Unavailable

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the d1 mini can still be logged in, but I'm not 100% sure where to look to diagnose

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im guessing its no longer sending state info to mqtt, but I'm only guessing

crisp mauve May 9, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Sorry if recommendations/reviews aren't allowed here, but I was wondering if anyone had experience with the Lenovo smart bulbs? I've had a decent experience with Yeelights in the past but they only seem available from China right now and I don't want to wait 8 weeks lol.

visual zenith May 9, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Hi all, I have flashed a sonoff SV with tasmota. When I connect the power to it into the ports labelled In+ and In-, i get no power to the unit. but then I soldered the mains to two header pins labelled + and - and its working. anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks

modern river May 10, 2020, 12:35 AM

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is there a bulk option to assign areas? I had to reset my devices registry and only way to set I know is devices -> klick on device -> click option -> assign area -> klick update

molten harbor May 10, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Evening most folks! I am struggling to setup a DVB tuner for use in TVHeadend; The device appears in the host logs; however, when checking the "host hardware" from the config panel the device is never listed

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Any thoughts?

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Device is: https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-dualHD

molten harbor May 10, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Just FYI for everyone; the device appears in /dev/dvb even though not listed in HA devices

austere herald May 10, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Probably a stupid question but... What is this thing? https://i.imgur.com/7B54Vys.jpg

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Homer isn't a thing I've setup or heard of

wanton aurora May 10, 2020, 12:16 PM

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So, restricting the login for Shelly devices apparently isn't a thing. Every time I try and set a password (16 chars), it logs me out and then won't log me back in with the password I just set up. Forces me to factory reset them and start over. Lovely.

fringe moon May 10, 2020, 2:17 PM

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I just set a 17 char password

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Worked flawlessly @wanton aurora

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The current Firmware version of your Shelly device is 20200320-123430/v1.6.2@514044b4

wanton aurora May 10, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Not sure why mine isn't setting correctly. I did copy/paste into the password box. When you typed in your u/n and password, did it kick you out and then let you immediately log back in?

fringe moon May 10, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Yes

wanton aurora May 10, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Hm...maybe it's the browser or the copy/paste. I'll try again. I hate having to factory default them again. 😛

fringe moon May 10, 2020, 2:19 PM

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I just wrote a 17char password in

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On my mobile phone haha

wanton aurora May 10, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I use a password manager but after the second time trying it and having to factory default it..I just left it alone for now. I'm trying to integrate it into hass next. MQTT sees it but the HACS plugin I used is confusing and not linking things up, so it's manual yaml for meeeee!

fringe moon May 10, 2020, 2:34 PM

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I used the Shelly custom integration

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It works flawlessly

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ShellyForHass from HACS

flint stag May 10, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Someone has experience with MQTT device tracker ? I receive longitude and lattitude on 2 different MQTT topics. I would like to show tis on a map (it's my robotic mower). How can i do this ?

crimson panther May 10, 2020, 6:41 PM

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I'm getting this exact same error after adding a tasmota mqtt switch...is this a known issue? The config won't accept an id or unique_id in the switch definition. https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/fmz6no/add_unique_ids_to_mqtt_devices/

winged knoll May 10, 2020, 6:56 PM

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That's normal - those are only supported if you're using MQTT Discovery

crimson panther May 10, 2020, 7:06 PM

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I restarted HA and now it suddenly has an ID (I can add it to the UI at least)...weird. Thanks though :)

tidal grotto May 10, 2020, 7:16 PM

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is there any work around for nest cameras?

normal canopy May 10, 2020, 8:22 PM

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anyone can recommend water, temp/humidity sensors? main concerns are price/reliability

winged knoll May 10, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Temperature/humidity https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/WSDCGQ11LM.html

broken lynx May 10, 2020, 8:25 PM

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So if you are gonna be sticking a shelly 1 in a light switch box its probably worth the 4 dollars to go with the UL listed one right?

normal canopy May 10, 2020, 8:35 PM

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thnx @winged knoll . . . any thoughts on water sensors?

winged knoll May 10, 2020, 8:36 PM

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I don't have any so while I can point you at them, I can't recommend any

normal canopy May 10, 2020, 8:36 PM

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lol. . . i noticed alot of govee ones on amazon, but mixed reviews

glossy prism May 10, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I like my smartthings water leak sensors (connected via ZHA)

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~$18 each, contacts on the top and bottom of the sensor

normal canopy May 10, 2020, 8:43 PM

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thnx @glossy prism

meager venture May 10, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Hi all.. I have built the Bruh multisensor and I am using it with ESPHome using this code : https://esphome.io/cookbook/bruh.html

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Strangely though, the LUX reading goes up when it gets darker and down when brighter. Looks like it's basically reversed...

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this is the bit of code related to the LUX :

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platform: adc
pin: A0
name: "Multisensor Brightness"
unit_of_measurement: lux
filters:
- lambda: |-
return (x / 10000.0) * 2000000.0;

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Any idea what's going on ?

stoic hull May 11, 2020, 1:08 AM

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not sure if devices is the right spot to ask, but anyone had any success launching apps on a fire TV? doesn't seem to like the monkey command 🤔

narrow zenith May 11, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Hi all. I bought a xiaomi mi remote for control my TV and Air Conditioner. And it has a problem with Air Conditioner control.
People recommends Broadlink IR for this purpose.
Can you say which Broadlink model is better for IR control/integration in HASS?
I found 2 popular models: RM Mini 3 / RM4C mini

tough halo May 11, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Hey, I don't suppose anyone here is using the Samsung TV integration successfully? It's started working for me in the latest release for the most part but after a few days of running smoothly it'll start spamming my TV with permission requests every few seconds, I accept them and they just keep coming and coming. I remove and re-add the integration in HA to fix this temporarily but I can't do that every 3-4 days! Anyone else?

frigid shuttle May 11, 2020, 8:41 AM

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ive got a mi flora bluetooth device im trying to get working, currently im just trying to connect it to my phone, but when it tries to link it gives the error that its only usable with mainland china, even if my account is in region mainland china

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does it use my geo location or? is this a problem for getting it to work with home assistant aswell or?

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also, the gateway bluetooth <--> mqtt, is it realy a raspberry pi thats best for this? feels like it would be quite overpowered for such a task

zealous dune May 11, 2020, 8:47 AM

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an esp32 or esp8266+BT receiver is enough

frigid shuttle May 11, 2020, 8:50 AM

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yea figured something like that should be enough, anyone know of premade code for it?

zealous dune May 11, 2020, 8:50 AM

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not a soul

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tasmota, esphome or openmqttgateway are good starting points

frigid shuttle May 11, 2020, 9:15 AM

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next question will be where to place it :/ not exactly a beautiful thing to connect with a usb charger to a wallsocket 😛 but ah well thats a problem for future me

tough halo May 11, 2020, 10:20 AM

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probably wrong channel for that

winged knoll May 11, 2020, 10:20 AM

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See #330944238910963714 if you want add-ons and #672217570283094017 if you don't

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lean bison May 11, 2020, 12:00 PM

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@hidden shell my config works https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xGH2WQFXV2/

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winged knoll May 11, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Doesn't matter

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mortal minnow May 11, 2020, 12:32 PM

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anybody having experience with the MAX Q3 Cube + radiator thermostats? they don't really do what they are supposed to

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within HA

hidden shell May 11, 2020, 1:19 PM

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@near light, thanks for your reply. I just saw your code, and noticed the mistakes I was making in mine. Thanks again.

stone sand May 11, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Is it possible to use an xbox360 kinect for facial recognition?

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or presence detection

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the kinect has a bunch of useful sensors.

hasty zodiac May 11, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Anyone know how to control the light ring on the Fibaro Wall Plug Z-Wave?

lean bison May 11, 2020, 3:11 PM

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@hidden shell no problem, have fun

vivid laurel May 11, 2020, 4:32 PM

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I might have discovered a bug. I have a group of Sylvania Smart+ bulbs (zigbee) in a Zigbee device group (the group is defined within the Zigbe integration not via groups.yaml). When you turn off the group via a light button the lights turn off but the button shows on. If you press the card again the card reflects correctly and the lights stay off. Turning on works fine.

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Anyone else seen this?

winged knoll May 11, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Check the state of the underlying entity in devtools -> States

vivid laurel May 11, 2020, 4:36 PM

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It shoes as on after clicking the button card.

winged knoll May 11, 2020, 4:36 PM

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The actual entity does?

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That would sound then like a topic for #zigbee-archived

vivid laurel May 11, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Gotcha, it looks like all but one show off.

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I will move to the other channel

vivid dune May 11, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Can i group devices through UI? Or only through configuration.yaml?

frank mica May 11, 2020, 7:06 PM

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does anyone know of a zwave switch with an occupancy sensor that could be controlled in a way that i could disable the ocupancy sensor? i currently have a GE sensor in my kitchen and it puts on all my bright kitchen lights when someone comes in, but sometimes if i go in the kitchen in the middle of the night i dont want to be blasted with bright lights (as i want to go back to bed!) or perhaps my only option would be to disable the occupancy sensor and using a seperate motion sensor?

winged knoll May 11, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Only in the YAML @vivid dune

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I'd go with a separate motion sensor

vivid dune May 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Are devices (like lights) automatically grouped? Related to area, maybe?

winged knoll May 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Nope

west ferry May 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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how can I monitor a refrigerator to know when it loses power?

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I have it on a Wemo but no notification when power fails. Plus when power returns it fails open/off

winged knoll May 11, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Well, the power return state then is trivial to detect

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For power failure, any device that reports power draw you should be able to detect if it doesn't change the report in a given time

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Zigbee devices tend to be quite chatty, so if you hadn't heard from one in, say, two hours you could use that to detect failure

upper quarry May 11, 2020, 7:18 PM

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If I have two individual LEDs wired in sequence, is there a way to set the color of each individually? Or do I have to use a predefined effect? For instance, I'd like to say something like light.board_led[0] = red, light.board_led[1] = green

tidal grotto May 11, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Hi Guys, im intrested in playing with a IR smart device, is the tuya one any good for homeassitant and device in general? I don't particulary see much use for it other then play around, £10 on ebay, any reccomendations?

urban ore May 11, 2020, 9:41 PM

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So I'm digging for a way to perhaps store some "settings" in HA. For example, I just tried (and failed) to setup a template light that I could store RGB values in. I don't want it to act on it but have a front end to a placeholder that could be referenced by node-red.

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Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks!

west ferry May 11, 2020, 9:51 PM

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@winged knoll I’m a network engineer/security engineer but don’t know too much about zigbee. What’s involved in setting it up? Another AP connected to Ethernet LAN? SSID/WPA2/PSK?

bright jacinthBOT May 11, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Tinkerer is away for 23m 58s with a message :point_right: Swarm node 42 is currently calibrating the VDA

glossy prism May 11, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@west ferry zigbee is its own protocol separate from wi-fi, you need a USB adapter or hub that has a zigbee radio

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#zigbee-archived for more info

vernal arrow May 12, 2020, 11:48 AM

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Could someone please assist me with the correct YAML for a Sonoff basic with a DHT22 attached? A YAML checker says that it is fine, but ESPHome won't compile

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 11:50 AM

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~esphome @vernal arrow

bright jacinthBOT May 12, 2020, 11:50 AM

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@vernal arrow ESPHome is a system to control your ESP8266/ESP32. You can find their documentation here, and get help here in the #diy-archived channel. They have their own Discord server too.

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Try their Discord 😉

tacit plinth May 12, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Looking for any recommendations on a USB C hub -- hopefully something shielded

rugged mist May 12, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Hello, I am starting to have problems with my Unifi device detection. I have connected my phone device tracking to my user and now it is showing as home and then away like every minute....

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 5:56 PM

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If the phone is idle it'll put the WiFi to sleep, so that's fairly normal

rugged mist May 12, 2020, 6:18 PM

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ok thanks. just cant see in the unify controller that it disconnects...

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Hi I'm looking for Sensors

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I've got a Pi3 and Hassio installed
What's a good option to monitor door/drawers opening/closing

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 7:59 PM

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My personal suggestion would be https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/MCCGQ11LM.html coupled with a #zigbee-archived integration of your choice

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Oh Hello

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 7:59 PM

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👋

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Zigbee

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Yup

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Are Zigbee and Wave the two main ones?

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Well, Zigbee, Z-Wave, and WiFi

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Battery life of the first two is a lot better than the last

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 8:00 PM

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don't forget the good old wire if that rpi is close

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:00 PM

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If i got Zigbee stuff would be limited to Zigbee only stuff

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Nope

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I run Zigbee, Z-Wave, and even some WiFi

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Oh okay that's fancy

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 8:01 PM

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most of us does, even RF is an option if you want to go oldschool

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Well, I started with Z-Wave because of the functionality, and added Zigbee to keep the costs sane

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I can buy a lot more £7 sensors than £35 sensors 😄

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Oh cheap

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I like cheap

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 8:02 PM

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cheap =/= cost effective 😄

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I'm new to the whole 'smart home' thing... so my partner will kill me if i spend loads on it

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:03 PM

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There's no shortage of cheap and low quality, but the Xiaomi units are pretty good

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:03 PM

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and do nothing

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Atm i can turn the tv off.. and adjust the volume

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 8:03 PM

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if you're just starting out i'd go with tink's recommendation

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:03 PM

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a week well spent

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I started with nothing more than presence detection

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I didn't get the TV hooked up until a while later, or anything else

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 8:04 PM

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i started with a Yeelight... there was no going back!

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:05 PM

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I started this so I could fit lights in the garden, and have a switch by the back door, without calling in an electrician

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:07 PM

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I got a little drawer with pi stuff.. and son keeps opening it

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so i wanna be alerted

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Well, if you've got any Google Home devices you could have it play a siren sound too 😛

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:07 PM

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wow

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:07 PM

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And have it keep doing that while the drawer is open

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(works too with any other media player)

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:08 PM

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@winged knoll
So you said Xiamio stuff is good
like this?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000008306006.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.68aa2a7e572lIS&algo_pvid=731e30e1-74f7-4438-a539-4badcd6c4406&algo_expid=731e30e1-74f7-4438-a539-4badcd6c4406-0&btsid=0ab6f82115893137106241226e19ee&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 8:08 PM

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and flash the lights if they're smart

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Or TTS for Hey, Son, close the drawer NOW

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Nope @little sentinel - look at the one I linked 😉

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 8:08 PM

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those are older version

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tbh not any difference apart from different design

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:09 PM

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i can't click "Buy" on one you linked T_T

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:09 PM

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000184042720.html

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That's the style you're after

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Does i need anything else to use zigbee stuff?

bright jacinthBOT May 12, 2020, 8:13 PM

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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI. It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on for Hass.io, in a Docker container, and natively, with no native UI. It uses MQTT for control and configuration, but there are third party UIs. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 8:13 PM

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And see the #zigbee-archived channel for more 😉

little sentinel May 12, 2020, 8:18 PM

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ooh on to the next level

elfin wraith May 12, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Anyone know of any in-wall switches that can control multiple things (within a single gang unit)? I'm hoping to find something that uses wifi rather than Zwave for connectivity.

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 9:34 PM

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what do you mean by "control multiple things"?

elfin wraith May 12, 2020, 9:35 PM

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like multiple scenes... press a button and it can trigger something in node-red... press another button and it controls another trigger in node-red...

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 9:36 PM

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any wifi switch with Tasmota can do that

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or any zigbee switch/remote

elfin wraith May 12, 2020, 9:37 PM

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the tasmota's (at least looking at them on amazon) look like they just have one 'button' (or rocker)? How would they control different things?

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 9:37 PM

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what?

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there's 1 - 6 gang wifi switches

winged knoll May 12, 2020, 9:38 PM

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You've also got single/double/triple press and hold actions

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 9:38 PM

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and each button can have multiple fucntions, f.e. multipress or hold

elfin wraith May 12, 2020, 9:39 PM

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can these switches be found on amazon? I can't seem to find them

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 9:39 PM

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https://templates.blakadder.com/switch.html

elfin wraith May 12, 2020, 9:40 PM

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oh I see... tasmota is like a custom firmware

zealous dune May 12, 2020, 9:41 PM

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yes, manufacturers don't really give you many options to play with

elfin wraith May 12, 2020, 9:47 PM

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thank you all for your help!

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 1:22 AM

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hi all !

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seeking help or how to's and know how for basic operation with Mijia Mi Robot 2in1 Vacuum and Mop 1c

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is this right a right place ?

amber snow May 13, 2020, 2:26 AM

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I have an entity that has a read only and I would like to rename the entity id

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Mijia Mi Robot 2in1 Vacuum and Mop 1c - anyone can help with basic operations

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?

lunar skiff May 13, 2020, 9:12 AM

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This might be OT but I’m using AirPlay for full home audio and I want a speaker for my bedroom, as cheap as possible. I’m thinking about getting a google home mini, they’re around 40 usd here (Sweden) and small and unobtrusive. I’ve installed the Chromecast to airplay add on to try out, but for some reason it’s not discovering my LG tv which is available for casting within the YouTube app at least. Does anyone have experience with that plugin? Does anyone have any other speakers I should consider?

rich canyon May 13, 2020, 11:49 AM

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@lunar skiff Are you using an older chromecast?

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Chromecast 1 is super buggy in that regard https://prnt.sc/sfz40t

lunar skiff May 13, 2020, 12:15 PM

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@rich canyon I have an LG WebOS TV with built in chromecast functionality, I dunno which version it would correspond to but probably an earlier spec, the tv is from 2016

fringe moon May 13, 2020, 12:34 PM

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it's not fully chromecast imo @lunar skiff it supports casting from apps etc, but it won't do everything a regular chromecast does in my experience

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I have a 2017 LG, and it's hit and miss, but I don't use the smart functions on it much, just WoL really

lunar skiff May 13, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Yeah I’ve never really used it @fringe moon but I wanted to see if the plugin worked as intended before I bought a google home mini. Have you tried the chromecast airplay plugin with your tv?

fringe moon May 13, 2020, 12:46 PM

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nope

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I use a roku on my main TV, and apple tv on the other two

fading pawn May 13, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Is there anything you can do to initiate Discovery - to rediscover a removed device?

stark island May 13, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Hey y’all. Quick question. I just added a new nest thermostat to my house but it isn’t showing up In home assistant. I know I’m missing something. Any ideas

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Did you already have Nest integrated with HA?

stark island May 13, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Yes

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All working great

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📎 image0.png

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Not sure then

stark island May 13, 2020, 4:33 PM

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How can I force an update

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Restarted a bunch.

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Not having any, I've no idea 🤷

stark island May 13, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Got ya. If someone has an idea, please ping me or shoot me a dm

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 5:26 PM

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HI All ! is there a list of supported devices by this channel members?

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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No

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There's some lists for specific integrations, but there's no master list

zealous dune May 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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challenge accepted

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just kidding 😄

stark island May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Anyone have an experience with nest products using the old api

drifting pivot May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Has anyone managed to get devices registered in the Lombex app to work with the tuya integration? I'm pretty sure I just need the platform identity string for the log in but can't find it and I've run out of ideas on what to try

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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@winged knoll what kind of support in here then ?

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Help with specific things

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:19 PM

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i was linked to this page by a website mentioning applications for Mijia/Xiaomi devices [ Mi Home devices to be specific ]

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Then that'd be something that's supported by the #zigbee-archived integrations and the Xiaomi hub integration

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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@winged knoll how about mi robots [ vac and mop ]

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?

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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~irc @ashen patrol

bright jacinthBOT May 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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@ashen patrol Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations lists all the integrations

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations#vacuum for the vacuum ones, etc

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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ta'

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is there such support with regards to prep to have devices enter a state with AP [ access point ] feature enabled, broadcasting SSID to connect to

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:24 PM

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The short answer is ... no

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:24 PM

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🙂

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:25 PM

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The long answer is more complicated, but generally speaking HA doesn't set up devices, you set them up and connect them to HA

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:26 PM

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HA being Home Assistant and what ? an application ?

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Home Assistant, yes

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https://www.home-assistant.io/

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:26 PM

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how about for maintenance on firmware for those devices

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?

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Depends

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Some Zigbee devices can be updated, most others have to be updated using their own software

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:28 PM

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we need to find more specific instructions on how to enter AP mode for robovac that seems in ' boot loop ' and eventually entering " download mode " to upload version of the firmware that contains no errors.

cerulean trail May 13, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Contact the manufactur

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:29 PM

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🙂 xiao-mi tech and cust. support seem unlikely to be co-operative.

cerulean trail May 13, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Better than us 😉

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they actually know the products, and sequences needed to get out of it

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Well, we can be cooperative, just unhelpful 😉

zealous dune May 13, 2020, 7:31 PM

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xiaomi has a huge forum for exactly that type of questions

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:31 PM

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there must be a way to find docs. for techy and staff member repairing or refurbishing

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Try the Xiaomi forum

ashen patrol May 13, 2020, 7:32 PM

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which one ? the net is populated with tons and at times useless forums

winged knoll May 13, 2020, 7:32 PM

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🤷 Google found https://c.mi.com/global/forum.php

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It's a better starting point than here