hardware-archived

[zealous dune]

like this https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Neo_NAS-AB06B2.html ?

[mental reef]

I have some Tuya (UK style) smart sockets, and they connected straight to Zigbee2Mqtt, and just work for me. They have interesting diagnostic sensors like "Voltage", and the zigbee routing seems as reliable as my IKEA smart plugs (that is, mostly reliable)

[mental reef]

Actually, I was thinking of internal, and having it serve multipurpose like door bell chime, alert (you've left a door open), and siren (to scare people away?). However, maybe I also need an outdoor solar powered siren too 🤔

[cold moon]

why have you settled on analog strips instead of addressable?

[mental reef]

Oh, and... a lot of Tuya devices are available as identical looking WiFi and Zigbee versions - the WiFi ones do need to be setup in Tuya's cloud, and I think that all battery powered WiFi sensors and controllers suffer from delay waking up. I just bought a Tuya WiFi contact sensor by mistake. (And for some reason the Zigbee versions are always a bit more expensive)

[tepid heart]

Probably people confusing the Tuya wifi with Tuya zigbee devices. Their wifi stuff is highly proprietary and discouraging of local control.

[sinful mirage]

figured having both a cool white and warm white LED was more important. unless you know of an addressable one with similar chips? its for my kitchen so its not the end of the world if it can't put on a programmed show 😛

[cold moon]

no disco kitchen? 😦

i would do the 24v ws2811 cob strips

[sinful mirage]

haha

[cold moon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmIcTIAlI74

[sinful mirage]

wouldn't this suffer from the same white issues of other RGB? aka because it doesn't have dedicated white LEDs

[cold moon]

ye

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397426163649216512/914682412099850280/video0.mov mine are just rgb but i would prefer rgbw like sk6812. 5v sucks to power inject tho

[sinful mirage]

i think im going to go with the CCT in the end just because of the flexability on the white light

assuming i can figure out what controller to get

haven't found anything with 6 pins. yet....

[cold moon]

https://www.athom.tech/blank-1/wled-rgbcct-analog-and-digital-light-strip-controller

you can buy from their aliexpress shop too

it would be nice if it was an esp32 tho

[sinful mirage]

thanks

[limber sequoia]

Hey all, I am running into a weird issue with a Skyconnect that I can't seem to find any definitive info on (other than one online thread that seems to describe a similar issue but with no resolution). I am running Supervised in a VM on Windows 11. When I first plug in the Skyconnect, it shows up in HA and I am able to configure the ZHA and thread integrations successfully. But whenever the VM restarts, the integrations will not reinitialize, and after some troubleshooting what seems to be happening is that the Skyconnect essentially disappears as far as HA is concerned. Even though the host machine can still see it. But if I unplug and replug, it works fine again until the next restart.

Is this a known/common issue, and is there a way to fix it? I spend extended periods away from the house, so it's not feasible to physically cycle the USB connection whenever this happens.

[cold moon]

jump to #zigbee-archived

[limber sequoia]

Oh okay, I thought I would start here since its multi protocol hardware. But I'll jump over.

[devout parrot]

That sounds like it might be some kind of issue with whatever VM software you're using.

[limber mango]

Hi all! Would you guys consider using a 24 inches wall touch display for the dashboards? Or do Home Asisstant dashboards even support touch displays?

[fallow cape]

yes but that seems rather impractical

it's somewhat common for people to mount 7 or 10 inch tables to the wall to use as touch control panels

but 24 inches seems like it would not make sense unless you are talking about some serious information density and what's not really what HA dashboards are intended for

[limber sequoia]

You just prompted me to do some digging on that front, and indeed, it seems like that might be the culprit. I am using VirtualBox, I am now reading some stuff that seems to indicate that USB pass-through can only happen if VirtualBox is running at the moment the USB device is inserted. But…I am surprised I haven't heard people talk about that before.

Does no one else have HAOS running in a VM that maintains connections to antennas/peripherals across reboots? That seems bonkers.

[patent river]

VirtualBox's USB passthrough was never reliable for me (not tested with HA, just kinda naff in general)

You've got a few options for Ethernet-connected Zigbee controllers that might make life a bit easier with a VM. Most are PoE too, so if you've got a PoE switch you don't need a power adapter either.

[jagged crypt]

Are you asking if anyone has a high-availability system that stays connected to single pieces of hardware?

[limber sequoia]

With HAOS running of a VM specifically, yeah. Because if this is indeed an intrinsic constraint of how VirtualBox operates, I would love to know if someone else is having success with a different virtualization solution, because I would gladly switch over.

[jagged crypt]

you have one skyconnect, and two machines running a high-available setup of HAOS?

and you want the skyconnect to work on both dynamically?

or you have two skyconnect, two machines, and you want to be able to fail over between the two machines?

or something else?

[limber sequoia]

I have a Windows 11 host, and one virtualized HAOS guest running on it. I also have one skyconnect. I want the skyconnect to work in HAOS across restarts of either the guest or host, without having to physically unplug and replug the skyconnect after the restart, which is what I have to do right now.

[cold moon]

https://www.derekseaman.com/2023/06/home-assistant-proxmox-ve-8-0-quick-start-guide.html

Just move over to proxmox and follow that guide

[jagged crypt]

works fine in proxmox for me

[cold moon]

People always have issues with vbox and passthru

[jagged crypt]

reboots, restarts, host or guest

have usb mapping enabled

[limber sequoia]

awesome

[jagged crypt]

even works if i move the thing to a different port

[cold moon]

Alternatively look into a PoE zigbee coordinator if you want to just not deal with usb at all

[jagged crypt]

yup, that works also

[cold moon]

This is what I use

[lavish prawn]

Hmm, I like that

[hexed galleon]

Has anyone tried

Moes

moeshouse.com

Found the factory of them here in china

[mental panther]

Does anyone have shelly duo bulbs? I'm having some issues adjusting the temperature of the bulbs with mqtt

[midnight ibex]

Hey there, can you help me identify that sensor housing?

[fluid zinc]

This might be a stupid question, but if I get an old thin client (HP something, with 8GB and a nice SSD), can I also sun HAOS? Or do I have to use some sort of docker solution?

Currently on a RPi4 and I might want to start with some more things like Frigate or others.

[zealous dune]

you can if its not that old and it supports virtualisation such as Proxmox

[slow echo]

so i really think i am moving on the n100. my i5 uses 4x the power of the n100. i am only running home assistant OS (zigbee + node-red) and maybe 3 more containers (transmission, handbrake, custom ones) but i dont use them that often and i dont need it to be super performant.
take in mind that i really want the power down. size doesnt matter, i dont mind if it is rack or not, i actually like rack since i have one. i want to keep home assistant addons interface though since it helps out setting things up, it is just plain easier. from the time i was setting things up i noticed that having it on a docker container was a pain, is that still a thing? if it isnt docker container all the way!

within the price range 100-200e, do you think a mini pc with a n100 is the best thing i can have? a bit out of the loop of what exists

[fluid zinc]

I'll have to read up on proxmox, no idea what that is 😄 But thanks, I'll look into it then to make sure it's not too old. Am I being stupid saying that I want HAOS, is it 'smarter' to do it differently? I prefer not to do the whole manual linux thing, where I have to do my own updates, etc. It's decades since I last frequently ran a linux distro and I don't fancy getting back into it...

[zealous dune]

it is "smarter" if you "don't prefer the manual linux thing", no need to subject yourself to that if haos does what you want

[glacial oracle]

that looks like it be an rs2 one

[fluid zinc]

Cool thanks. Yeah I'll only be running HA, Frigate (and some NVR system) and related things like an MQTT system. All network related stuff my unifi does.

[nimble grotto]

So what's the most deadbeat hardware you can run HAOS on? I'm currently running on a raspberry pi 2 and it's not too bad

[zealous dune]

probably that 😄

[modern coyote]

Hi, I'm looking for a little push in the right direction. I have installed HAOS half an hour ago and been messing around with motionEye for a bit trying to connect my Reolink frontdoor camera. So far so good! However, before shifting to HA I had an RPI with a 2TB HDD to write my camera recording to. I'm trying to find a step-by-step to mount this disk in my HOAS, but anything I've found so far was related to back-ups or mediastorage.

Specifically; all I want to do is access the HDD through the filepath of my HAOS so I can tell motionEye to write my camera-recordings to the HDD specifically designed for it, instead of the on-board SSD.

[devout parrot]

I run mine in Docker and it's not too difficult, like I'm not a developer or an IT pro or anything and I figure it out just fine, it all comes down to personal preference and needs. There's a bit more stuff you have to configure manually if you're using Docker. If you don't want to run HAOS on bare metal, do Proxmox if you still want the convenience of HAOS.

[slow echo]

yep been using proxmox but might do the docker way if able to get it running fully. that is the thing, last time i run the docker version, it was lacking a lot from HAOS

[glacial oracle]

Well it's the "do it yourself" version of it

the n100 will run proxmox with multiple vms without any issues, id kinda safe myself the headache and have it "just work"

[crude cape]

Hi Guys

I have a little Question and Google isn't helpfull atm

I bought a house and the lightning is with pulse switches and builtin led. I have on every switch only 2 cables to switch indeed. I have tried to install the sonoff zbmini but it didnt work. Does anyone have experience with what hardware I need? I could change just the lamps but then we cant use the switches (Replacing the switches is also an option if there are zigbee pulse switches)

[devout parrot]

You need the ZBMINI-L2 if you don't have neutral wire.

[fringe crater]

Are those wires to the momentary switches actually mains voltage and carry any power? I wonder if they're just little 5v wires that signal to a main controller.

[devout parrot]

Wait when you say pulse do you mean momentary switches?

[crude cape]

I guess they signal to a main controller, didnt figured it all out but living room has 2 switches for lights and one in the kitchen to turn off all liht so i ues its to a main controller

[devout parrot]

for that I think you want something with a dry contact

[crude cape]

Could be :p im dutch speaking so maybe my transmation wasn't right but indeed it is momentary

[fringe crater]

If there's no mains power at the switch you might have a hard time.

[crude cape]

Thats what i tought. There is no main power to it

[fringe crater]

Maybe need some battery powered remotes and some DIY wiring at the controller.

[devout parrot]

Oh no the zbmini-L2 supports momentary switches

[crude cape]

i will buy one an try it out :p

thank you for the fast info

[fringe crater]

Actually I guess you don't need batteries, you just need to install the new relay at the controller where you have power, and not in the wall socket. Got confused for a minute 😅

[crude cape]

so just install it were the power comes in and the first switch is located

[fringe crater]

I don't have the wiring diagram of what you're dealing with so I can't say with certainty.

[crude cape]

Yeah i Understand. Thats the problem we bought the house and the wiring diagram isnt correct and we cant get in touch with the previous owner

[cold moon]

Hire an electrician or get your hands dirty

[crude cape]

will get my hands dirty

[lilac ingot]

hey yall, im pretty new to HA and im still in the process of getting my hardware

was wondering, what, if any, are some cheaper alternatives to Raspberry pi?

bit expensive in my country

preferably a micro computer not a whole desktop

actually if someone can give me some general basic CPU requirements to set up your own HA environment (nothing crazy just for my apartment)

[cold moon]

what country

[lilac ingot]

i can do my own research between micro computers

[cold moon]

used mini pc like lenovo m910q in the usa is $100 or less

[lilac ingot]

vietnam

are the days of $50 micro computers gone?

😢

[cold moon]

there are $50 thin clients and cheaper

dell wyse 3040 or something similar

kinda shit compared to a mini pc tho

[lilac ingot]

how shit is shit

i havent ordered anyhting besides a SONOFF zigbee 3.0 dongle

just wanna set something up myself instead of buying like an AQARA hub

takes all the fun away from it

i have been reading into it a fair bit but what kind of impact on performace are we talking about? slower response? lesser device connections? crashing?

[cold moon]

With wired Ethernet home assistant ‘works fine’ with no delays turning lights on and stuff on low powered shit like a pi. The performance benefits are dashboards loading with lots of data like cams, update/restart speed, limitations of addons you can run, etc

[lilac ingot]

understood. will probably try with something slightly cheaper and below the rpi specs and see if that fulfils my needs

thanks bud!

[cold moon]

well going below a pi3 or pi4 passmark is a bad idea

one thing you can do is buy used broken laptops (the screen can literally be missing) and bad keyboard etc

[devout parrot]

Yeah idk what the market is like over in Vietnam, but over here businesses liquidate huge lots of thin clients, resellers get hold of them, and plenty of them sell for the same price or cheaper than a Pi with way more resources and similar power consumption.
Also if you have any unused laptops or laptops with broken screens or whatever, or if you can get hold of one for free or cheap, you can run HA on that no problem.

[cold moon]

you can get a newer gen laptop for pretty cheap if you are buying it "for parts" since newer gen laptop screens can cost way too much for people to spend $ on

ya that

[past summit]

If you were to build a all-in-one HA, NVR, adblocker etc solution, would you go HA Yellow or a "regular" computer? I intend to have cameras, voice assistant etc. From a power usage perspective the HAY makes more sense but I think I will have about 5-10 cameras running (only recording on motion) for my "summer" house. I will have a spare server soon

[untold harness]

My personal vote is do something stronger (like a standalone server running Proxmox or Unraid or something like that)

[shy flax]

Anyone else using Konnected garage door openers?

[past summit]

so not HAOS and HAOD addons?

[golden thorn]

You can run HAOS on proxmox no problem

[untold harness]

^

Just in a virtual machine

[past summit]

great

this is the way then

then I think I will sell my second HAY

Shame I bought one before I had these thoughts

[vast falcon]

I was asking about vacuums the other day - i ended up gtting the roborock and i have to say it integrates SUPER easily in HA and works perfectly. really nice

and it communicates locally

[past summit]

VM or LXC or doesn't matter? If you know

[golden thorn]

You can't run HAOS in a container

[past summit]

I found a script for it somewhere

so it seems like it can, but maybe not advisable

no, I was wrong. I read it too quickly

[golden thorn]

😉

[past summit]

weeeell, it's evening here. I blame a long day mainly

[vernal bay]

Any recommendations for switch relays that use zigbee that do power monitoring? I don’t think the sonoff ones do. Could use WiFi but prefer not to.

[past summit]

I think the aqara one's does if you use the ones with a neutral

[vernal bay]

$34 might just go with a WiFi Shelly one

[past summit]

not sure all shelly do power monitoring though

[vernal bay]

1PM UL $21.89

Only thing is it’s WiFi but not a deal breaker

As long as I can use it locally

[past summit]

okay

[patent river]

Depending on where you need to put it and how much power you need to switch, the new "mini" line might also work?
https://www.shelly.com/en/products/shop/shelly-plus-1-pm-mini
It's only rated 8A (vs 16A on the full size), but is half the size

[vernal bay]

I only need like 2 or 3 amps so that might be perfect

Thank you

[patent river]

To note, there is also a new monitoring-only model (no switching):
https://www.shelly.com/en/products/shop/shelly-plus-pm-mini

[vernal bay]

This is perfect. Unfortunately it says unavailable in USA

[patent river]

They only announced them a few weeks ago, is possible they're just not available yet

[vernal bay]

Ah maybe

Guess I’ll go with the regular size one. Would be cool if it allowed dimming

[patent river]

There at least used to be a dimmer model, but appears discontinued

[vernal bay]

https://www.shelly.com/en-us/products/shop/shelly-dimmer-2

Found out

It

[patent river]

The heck? That said "unavailable" when I clicked on it 5 minutes ago

[vernal bay]

Getting up in price. Might as well get the aqara so I can have zigbee

Nvm looks like no dimming

[patent river]

I'm looking at the "plus 1 mini" models in order to cram them in behind my light switches (very little space available). Pretty sure the mini is the only one that you can wire into a 2-way circuit (due to the extra terminal).

Might take them up on the 10% off if you sign up to their newsletter 😄

[devout parrot]

Shelly devices are reliable and good quality, and running WiFi devices for power monitoring saves bandwidth on your Zigbee network.

[patent river]

Let's be honest too, what else is 2.4GHz WiFi really good for?
Pretty sure all but 1-2 devices (out of 40) in my house that use 2.4 are IoT things.

LIFX bulbs, Xiaomi fans, Twinkly lights, Kasa switches, Elgato video light, cat feeder (Petkit), cat toilet (Litter Robot), Sonos speakers, Mitsubishi heat pump

Would hazard a guess about 85% of those are ESPs too 😄

[jagged crypt]

2.4 is good for stable connections past 15 feet with any walls nearby

I'll put this in here, since I haven't given an update in a couple weeks, this setting in Ubiquiti to basically send out unicast frames instead of broadcasts for ARP packets solved my WIZ lights having any latency from gettings commands from HA:

[cold moon]

I’m impressed

[jagged crypt]

i suspect it has to do with esp32 network stack handling broadcasts, but haven't had the urge to test out with some of my esp32 test boards

it could just be the code on the wiz lights also

but eitherway not getting the 1-2 second delays that were occurring regularly

[vernal bay]

How’d you even figure that out lol

[sage sigil]

Is anyone aware of a TRV (uk) that only has open/close function. I know theres loads out there but i dont need a display, or temp measurements or fancy extras. Just one thatll open or close a rad valve

[jagged crypt]

experimentation mostly. Created a 2.4ghz only, turned off band steering, and other things that everyone had recommended, and then decided to try that. Unicast messages are for the platform, so it will parse it at normal priority, but broadcasts aren't neccessarily for it, so i figured maybe the stack was running broadcast processing at a lower priority. Still don't know for sure, but it does seem to be working. A test would be to put static arp entries on home-assistant for the Wiz Lights (or other esp32 devices) and see if latency goes away on initial pings or other connections. I still get 20-80ms, but not 500-2000 anymore.

[vernal bay]

Thought about getting a kasa motion sensor switch but they don’t appear to allow local control unfortunately

[patent river]

I have quite old ones; hs100 single switches (two indoor lights), and a KP303 3-outlet power strip (mounted under the house, switching outdoor lights)

[midnight ibex]

Gas sensot type

[jagged crypt]

slow day

[shy flax]

Since you said it's a slow day I will repost my quesiton from yesterday.... Anyone using Konnected garage door openers?

[winged knoll]

People do... you should ask the question so people can answer when they're around

[shy flax]

thanks.

I got two of them and I am having nightmares with them. They will not keep a connection to my Wifi. I will see on my router (TP-link) that they have an assigned IP address but in the logs of the device itself it will show "Found networks" and then list out my SSID, "WiFi Connecting to MYSSID", "Timeout while connecting to WiFi", "wifi_apply_hostname_(garage-door-6f6171): lwIP error -16 on interface st (index 0)", "Event: Disconnected ssid='MySSID' bssid=E8:48:B8:21:22:2F[redacted] reason='Association Leave'". I went so far as to disable 5G on the router thinking maybe that would help but it has not

They might work for a day or two or maybe for an hour or two but they always stop working

is this a common issue? Would setting a static IP on them possibly help? If so how do I do that?

[jagged crypt]

"konnected" is a brand or just a funky way to ask if HA->garage works? IE: (yes, web connected)

[outer knot]

Konnected.io

Connect wired alarm sensors and siren using the NodeMCU based Konnected Alarm Panel

Quality scale

No score

IoT Class

Local Push

Integration type

integration

Documentation

View the documentation

Source

View the source on GitHub

Issues

View known issues

[shy flax]

it's a brand

[jagged crypt]

what's the wifi accespoint/router you are using?

[shy flax]

It's a tp-link AX11000 MU-MIMO Tri-Band Gaming Router

[jagged crypt]

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/wifi-issues/407562 - not the help you are looking for though

Can you issues a static ip address in the device, or only dhcp (static or dynamic)

[shy flax]

I added a static for them and that seemed to make it worse. So, I was trying to figure out how to set a static onthe device itself. The Konnected website mentions that is a good idea but does not explain how to do it

so that thread you posted in basically saying throw them away and but something else?

[jagged crypt]

adding a static for them, meaning you statically are issuing a DHCP lease, or statically defined it on the client?

[shy flax]

Now I am doing neither. I added a reseveration for them in DHCP but that seemed to make things worse so I removed it. I don't know how to define one on the client.

Not sure if this helps or not but this is the firmware I'm running. https://install.konnected.io/garage-door-opener The ESPHome one in the drop-down

[jagged crypt]

odds are it's NOT ip related, based on the post

you can't make any config changes to that firmware in esphome vs the konnected download directly (I'm grasping here, and not directly familar with the product)

[shy flax]

Let me find something to show you. BTW... I am a total noob to home automation

[jagged crypt]

https://support.konnected.io/esphome-customization-on-the-konnected-alarm-panel-pro-esp32

[shy flax]

I have the alarm panel too. I think the firmware is not the same. It works with HACS and the door openers do not

[jagged crypt]

https://support.konnected.io/add-a-konnected-device-to-home-assistant-with-esphome

seems to imply they do have ESPHOME configs, but now provide a prebuilt firmware

[shy flax]

I can't find that article but somewhere I read that they have a hard time negotiating DHCP requests

[jagged crypt]

https://support.konnected.io/esphome-customization-on-the-garage-door-opener
and then https://esphome.io/components/wifi.html

you can add the "manual_IP" to the esphome description, you won't brick the device, but you may have to re-flash via usb if the network stuff screws up

you may already have that config in esphome on your home assistant

[shy flax]

Oh. And I might have it backwards which is supported that way and which is not.

[jagged crypt]

and you just need to add the static ip address to the config, and re-push the config

[shy flax]

substitutions:
name: garage-door-6f6171
friendly_name: "Lexus Garage"
packages:
konnected.garage-door-esp8266: github://konnected-io/konnected-esphome/garage-door-esp8266.yaml@master
esphome:
name: ${name}
name_add_mac_suffix: false
api:
encryption:
key: 16Uwzc6Vxhugt30Qch09SwcotgRt0p+bexqX1qu+sCY=

wifi:
ssid: LooneyTunes
password: "XXXXXXXXXXX"

I downloaded the yaml from on using ESPHome. That's it

So do I go to edit to change it?

[jagged crypt]

so you should be able to add:
** manual_ip:
static_ip: 192.168.0.123
gateway: 192.168.0.1
subnet: 255.255.255.0**

but it's up the WIFI: section, so "manual_ip:" should be spaced out to be in-line with SSID

[shy flax]

Sorry for being so dumb.....

[jagged crypt]

obviously fix static-ip, gateway and subnet to match yours

[shy flax]

When I got to edit on the device in ESPHome there's nothing there. So I need to paste in what I downloaded with the addition of the manual_ip stuff?

[jagged crypt]

you're starting to get into "i don't know specifics for that product" territory for me, but again, worst case it should just fail to update

do you have it listed in the ESPHOME section of the home-assistant GUI?

[shy flax]

Right, I do.

that might help explain my question. When I go to edit from your screenshot it's blank

[jagged crypt]

you can paste in the config, and then click update and see what happens 🙂

[shy flax]

cool, let me try. thanks man!

[jagged crypt]

it'll compile a new firmware and try to push it out

i'm working on the fact that it's not working now, so absolute case it's still not working 🙂

[shy flax]

I see. I've flashed them a million times so that's not an issue if it breaks who cares

I have one connected locally via usb

and one is actually working right now

[jagged crypt]

ok, so we're on the same page, just making sure

[mental panther]

Does anyone use shelly duo lightbulbs? I'm having some trouble changing the color temp on the overview screen of HA.

[shy flax]

spaced out like this?

[jagged crypt]

that looks right

[shy flax]

okay trying now

silly questrion... how do I know it it worked?

[jagged crypt]

you have click update on home page, and it'll compile it and push out a new config

[shy flax]

Oh I think I found it

[jagged crypt]

and then you should be able to ping it

[jagged crypt]

you may have to usb connect it, not sure

[shy flax]

Yea, let me try the one I have on USB

[jagged crypt]

you can also potentially add the "fast_connect: true" line to try also, as listed in the original bug-report

[shy flax]

So that seems to have worked and the logs show it connected to my wifi

I'll add fast_connect to the other one just to see if it's better. But that one is mounted on the garage cealing so I have to go take ti down lol

[jagged crypt]

sounds like a tentative success then

[shy flax]

I would say so. It replies to a ping on the IP I gave it

thanks a lot! I've been trying to make these work for nearly a month

[jagged crypt]

you're welcome

[shy flax]

Doing the other one now. 🙂

Awesome. They are both online and working now

[jagged crypt]

cool

[shy flax]

thanks again!

[jagged crypt]

see how it goes over the next couple of days before declaring success 🙂

[shy flax]

fair enough

I will say though that I've flashed these things a million times and it's never been this easy so that's a victory in my book

[jagged crypt]

yeah, my guess is you're good to go

[shy flax]

I think so too

Would have been nice if in those 20 emails back and forth with Konnected support they would have told me to do that

Sort of on the same subject. Do you know what one of the openers would have no actions avilable in automations but the other does?

Crap. This happened before and it was a pain to fix. I think it's the issue though. Somehow in ESPHome both of them show with the same name

[jagged crypt]

you may have to delete and re-add

[shy flax]

Actually I fgot it. Never been this easy before. I just renamed one. The entity names were correct so it worked

[jagged crypt]

oh cool, I had to nuke stuff before and re-add, but i've just played with some esp32 dev boards

[shy flax]

that's what I had to do last time. And even then it kept coming back wrong. not sure why it just worked this time when I renamed it in ESPHome

[jagged crypt]

well worst case, you have a reproduction process that isn't complex

[viral sphinx]

Can someone recommend me a good WiFi AP? I have ethernet on the place, but WiFi is too weak and WiFi devices keep disconnecting

[south dock]

Hi all! I'm new to HA discord! I am looking for some advise because I'm new to home automation and tasmota.

If I wire everything right,

1. My understand is, I will be able to operate the external switches to ON and tasmota webui to OFF with something like sonoff dualr3. Is this notion right?

2. If my above notion is right, is it it possible for the ifan04 to control fan speed via tasmota and dualr3 to OFF the fan via tasmota, and external switch to ON the fan. Use them all in conjunction?

3. If notion 1 is wrong, how will I be able to use external switches along with tasmota enabled relay switch?

Thank you and any kind of advise and insight is highly appreciated!

PS: Kindly please do not give smart switches as an option because I don't want to change the existing switch.

[sacred dagger]

I tried to connect my Tuya enabled infrared panel to home assistant but it seems like I messed something up.

[cold pollen]

Hi, I got a new heating system installed (floor heating) and want to use the opportunity to attach a temperature sensor and display to each room (right now there are just two old thermostats for the entire home). I plan to exchange the manual valve heads and reuse the electric onces. I'm wondering which kind of thermometer and display I am going to use, as I would love to use the displays for other purposes as well, basically having a control unit per room. There are candidates like sonoff displays, Shelly displays, Nextion, or using tablets in kiosk mode... What is the best option terms of HA integration and be able to extend it for possible future tasks

As for the sensor I plan to use some wireless units, which allows me to place them at an ideal position in the room. For the valves I considering to use a relay units with a relay for each valve controlled by an Esp via esphome

[zealous dune]

what do you think you messed up?

[cold pollen]

Would love to hear about others who added something like this to HA

[wild atlas]

I have 2 unifi access points, they work pretty well but I also use their switches and firewall so everything integrates together nicely

[fringe crater]

I would guess most all APs are going to be broadly similar for signal strength, given regulatory limits on broadcast power, etc.
If you have weak signal you might not need good APs but just more APs.
But I also use unifi APs and are happy with them, though I don't have the rest of their ecosystem, they still work well.

[viral sphinx]

I have low signal because the router is far. I have installed ethernet cable to the place and now I want to add an AP in that place

[fringe crater]

guess it comes down to what features you want. if you just need any wifi, I would just use any old thing you can find for cheap. Other things that will drive the consideration are things like if you want vlans, poe, more options.

Unifi and Omada seem to be the ones I see most recommended if you want some more advanced features.

[viral sphinx]

I only want to connect to my wifi

Probably even a better router with better antena will work 😅

[zealous dune]

any cheap router in ap mode works

[novel arch]

of the wifi rgb bulbs, is there a brand that is easier to integrate or more friendly for local only control? looking around kasa, govee A19 bulbs for outdoor(but enclosed) use.

[zealous dune]

Kauf bulbs

[pallid panther]

Can't seem to get the Kasa pan camera KC410S to be found by my home assistant server. I have the Kasa integration and already have a few kasa things integrated

[fringe crater]

The kasa integration doesn't mention about supporting any cameras. Looks like lights, switches, and plugs only.

[wanton oar]

Does Anyone have recommendations for an adjustable white smart bulb that works in Home Assistant, I would not mind using Zigbee if it was necessary

[novel arch]

i have heard about those

what is the extent that all these wifi bulbs make you register with them to get them onto your wifi and integrated with ha locally?

i havent used anything other than tasmota/esphome thus far.

[mental panther]

Def not these damn shelly duo bulbs 😒

[devout parrot]

So, why do you want to add a smart controller to the fan and then add another smart device that powers things on and off when the ifan can do all that already?
If you want to use the ifan in conjunction with the existing physical switch, look into adding a module like the Shelly 1 or Sonoff Mini that supports detached relay mode/decoupled mode and have the switch trigger an automation that tells the ifan to toggle on/off.

[fluid sigil]

Hey all, since some weeks, I have a RTL2832 dongle, but the Raspberry Pi won't recognise it. I use it for sharing data with Flightradar24. Any idea's how to connect the dongle?

[coral solstice]

Any recommendations for some recessed RGB cabinet lights that are 12v and fit in a ~2.5in (64mm) hole? Something that can be controlled by either bluetooth, zigbee, or hooked up to an ESP32 running wled or something similar?

I see these that may work: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804639000282.html (the 12V RGBW 3000k one), but not sure how they are controlled.

[tacit burrow]

Which os/distro? Your problem is likely the os, not the hardware or HA

[inland trout]

man I cannot get this esp board to be seen over serial no matter what I do. :/

[devout parrot]

What board? What OS? Do other serial devices work?

[inland trout]

https://github.com/emporia-vue-local/esphome
Trying to flash an Emporia Vue. The v5 has a resistor blocking the RXD pin but I bypassed that following this guide https://github.com/emporia-vue-local/esphome/discussions/31
Still no dice. I see my USB adapter has 3.3v out on the TXD, I dont know if i have to have 5.

esptool.py flash_id
Serial port COM21
Connecting......................................
COM21 failed to connect: Failed to connect to Espressif device: No serial data received.```

[devout parrot]

Looks like you need 5v

Hold the modified end of the cable in IO0 to the metal shield on the ESP32. If you'd like, you can tape it down so that you have both hands free.

While holding it in place, connect 5V on your UART adapter to the VCC_5V0 pin on the board.

[slender marsh]

Hello guys, i have a RGBW strip attached to a mibox controller wifi
I would like to swap this rgbw wireless controller in order to be able to control the led strip through homeassistant

Can anyone suggest me a way to do it? Every time i try to search i get really confused.
Is it possible to swap easily just by buying a same voltage led controller that supports rgbw or do i need to do anything else?
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005004527624562.html?src=google&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=494-037-6276&slnk&plac&mtctp&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=19207366554&albag&trgt&crea=it1005004527624562&netw=x&device=c&albpg&albpd=it1005004527624562&gad=1&aff_fcid=16bbc042f318424c9887789053c9bf70-1697966287226-09881-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=16bbc042f318424c9887789053c9bf70-1697966287226-09881-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=403fb358eab648a1b405bc02d4f20613&afSmartRedirect=y

[worn musk]

Read at ur own risk, you might lose a few braincells. Basically, I wanted to buy 2x of these type of switches, to use with Shellies behind em
https://www.retrotouch.co.uk/crystal-pulse-retractive-switches/crystal-pg-retractivepulse-light-switch-2-gang-white.html
But then I realized I actually need them to be in a single housing, just like I have mine installed right now
I have Niko rn btw, it says its 83mm wide, these are 86mm but whatever, that aside, this is the housing that they sell:
https://www.retrotouch.co.uk/euro-plates-and-modules/crystal-pg-euro-module-plate-4-gang-white.html

But I need it to be vertical XD and I dont know if it these switch modules will still snap in place if i rotated it... so yeh 🤦‍♂️ tried looking up vids online but nothing useful

[tall hare]

[previously](#hardware-archived message) i was looking for smart plugs but now I have a budget around 150cad. I was looking at HS300 and someone mentioned about having a double relay but I have no knowledge about relay devices so any suggestion for relay devices with consumption monitoring?

[coral solstice]

do you need relays, or smart plugs you plug into an existing outlet? Do you have Zigbee running?

[tall hare]

Click on my previous message but preferably a plug or relay but it needs to have consumption monitoring and I don't have any zigbee or zwave setup

[coral solstice]

ah, sorry. Missed your previous comment. Are you looking for a wifi controlled one or esphome? I have a couple Athom smart plugs that integrate via esphome. They have power monitoring capabilities.

something like this: https://www.amazon.com/KAUF-Monitoring-ESPHome-Compatible-Assistant/dp/B0BJLGNPPX

but that assumes you have/run esphome

Anyone using an old Kindle for a slow refresh dashboard? (weather, daily calendar, etc.) I've been having several really annoying issues with mine that I can't solve.

[jagged crypt]

https://cloudfree.shop/product/sonoff-s31-flashed-with-tasmota/

sorry, looks like it's backordered right now

[tall hare]

Any works for me as long it doesn't require a hub, I have multiple routers and I can pull one of my router to have a dedicated router for it.

[deep pike]

Hi I'm just looking for some advice on a Google Coral. I'm running HAOS on a dell optiplex, with frigate add on. Should I get the USB version or would it be better to get an add on card for an m.2 version?

[winged knoll]

If you have the option then m.2 over USB IMO

[deep pike]

@winged knoll is there anything special I'll have to do is the set up or will either work if I follow some documentation

[winged knoll]

Well... try following the docs?

if they don't work then you can provide feedback, but I'd assume the docs have what you need

[deep pike]

@winged knoll okay thanks a lot. Now I gotta convince my wife to buy me one so I can buy other stuff lol

[cold moon]

See if your motherboard has an E key m.2 slot

A lot of them have an e key for Wi-Fi/BT and you can swap with a coral e key m.2

[hard minnow]

Hey, I would like to setup a homeassistant server and upgrade my appartment with smart devices. I am completely overwhelmed by all the chinese rebrands and brands i never heared of before. I already bought 8 zigbee E27 socket lamps because I got them for a great discount but i am still looking for european Thermostatesand and window open and closed sensors. Does anyone have any recommendations ?

[winged knoll]

For Zigbee sensors Xiaomi is a good choice, as are Linkind, 3Reality, Hue, and Develco

Xiaomi's E1 and T1 ranges are Zigbee 3.0, unlike the older ones which are just 1.2

[hard minnow]

Gotcha , do you also have a recommendation for carbon monoxide detectors ? I will check xiaomis products now 🙂 thamks already

[winged knoll]

See the above brands, they may do some

I use Zigbee2MQTT so their supported devices list is my usual starting point

[hard minnow]

I check it out thank you 🙂 have to do a lot of reading anyway 🙂

[cold moon]

If you have a zwave mesh there are a few good options

https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/products/zooz-800-series-z-wave-long-range-dc-signal-sensor these take existing interconnect alarms and make them smart

https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-SCO7CN-Combination-Monoxide/dp/B0002CWXZG this is a battery only combo alarm

[fluid sigil]

Home Assistant Core, 2023.10.1. Now updating to 2023.10.5

[devout parrot]

The Sonoff S31 that was linked above can also be bought with the stock Sonoff firmware and flashed with esphome or Tasmota very easily. All you need is a screwdriver, a USB UART dongle, and some test hooks.

[echo hearth]

Evening everyone, I am looking for advice to get temperature sensors (multi sensors are OK) for 13 rooms across 3 floors.

I am planning on getting a SkyConnect so will have Zigbee available. Has anyone here mass tracked their temperature across their house and what sensors do you use?

I keep seeing these cheap ones from AliExpress but I honestly have no experience with these yet
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004728929707.html

[zealous dune]

Skip

If you really want cheap sensors get https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Tuya_IH-K009.html

[undone robin]

Idk if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know if Lewis’ presence sensors can also act as bt proxies AND microphones for assist?

[echo hearth]

Thanks @zealous dune for the recommendation. I think* I have seen these ones reviewed on a YT video and they too came recommended. Do you have any of these already?

[livid briar]

What home theater receiver features should I look for that means they will be compatible with Home Assistant or are any particular brands HA friendly?

[devout parrot]

So as far as reliable smoke alarms that integrate with HA, should I go ahead and add zwave to my system or are there Zigbee options that I can trust?

[zealous dune]

I don't recommend things I don't use

[gentle fossil]

They are nice, send updates every minute

[jade jewel]

Do you know of any 433Mhz bridges with something similar to Zigbee2Mqtt. Tasmota only seems to support the sonoff one and the only sonoff bridges now available are not fully supported to control stuff like blinds and curtains

[gentle fossil]

433mhz has nothing to do with zigbee

[wise gorge]

When i used 433 i used integration with Animus Heart.

Worked great

[tawny dome]

Hi all, can anyone recommend some smart battery operated RGB lights? Something that I could leave in a window that doesnt have an electrical plug nearby

I'm looking at a simple way to do some halloween and christmas decorations. I figured some coloured smart lights in my house windows would be a simple way to decorate for the season

[jade jewel]

I asked for something similar to the zigbee2mqtt I also gave an example of tasmota I am aware they are not the same

[gentle fossil]

I like to keep my stuff away from 433mhz because it just doesn't work for me. not even in the same room

[jade jewel]

Yeah it really sucks but unless I want to sleep on the sofa for an indefinite amount of time I rather not mess with blinds and curtains picked out… curtains is a relatively easy fix blinds not so much

[winged knoll]

https://docs.openmqttgateway.com/use/rf.html?

[steep lark]

Probably a dumb question. My work threw away some DSC PG9984P sensors. Is there an easy way I could take them home and use them for home automation?

[terse pebble]

They seem to be using an own wireless standard (PowerG) 🤔

[steep lark]

So I would probably need more dsc stuff to be able to connect it to HA?

[terse pebble]

As far as I see, the DSC integrations just interact with the alarm control panel (via a connection device) and show zone status, not the sensors itself. But take this with a grain of salt - I don't use them.

[devout parrot]

Ok so you have existing motorized blinds and curtains that have what, 433mhz RF remotes?

[zealous ermine]

I can second the usage of OpenMQTTGateway. currently using it with an ESP32 and a high gain antenna for repurposing a few temp/humidity sensors around the house. RTL_433 should cover a lot of ground.

[jade jewel]

Yep it appears to be some brand called Dooya

[devout parrot]

And they just have remotes, there's no two way communication with some kind of hub?

[jade jewel]

HA forums seems to have all the RF codes for this dooya product but I don’t see how I can use that with OpenMQTT

[jade jewel]

Nope just motors and a 15/16 channel remote it can control multiple motors at the same time

There is RM Pro which works and people have used it successfully but I don’t want to have to use their app for anything

[devout parrot]

Ok so you just need something like a broadlink rm4 or bond bridge

[jade jewel]

Bond bridge?

[devout parrot]

Same type of device as the RM4

[jade jewel]

All this would not be an issue if So off just left their RF bridges alone

Their V2.2 messed everything up, best thing I can do is to try and find old stock which I can buy

And hope there are any R1s or R2s V1.0

[devout parrot]

So what are the new versions? Not flashable?

And regarding the broadlink rm4, you would only need their app to get it connected to your Wi-Fi network

After that because of the way the broad link integration works all the code storage, programming, stuff like that you would be doing in home assistant

If you have a spare remote or if you want to buy one to tear up, you could also do some #diy-archived stuff, solder an esp32 to the buttons and build your own cloud free smart controller that way. Don't ask me exactly how that works I just know it's usually possible.

[jade jewel]

They are but you need the portish firmware on it communicate with non sonoff rf devices

[steep lark]

Figured. Thanks for the help. 🙂

[devout parrot]

Right so you flash Tasmota, flash the Portisch firmware to the secondary controller chip, and you're in business, right?

[jade jewel]

Yes but the V2.2 doesn’t work with portish anymore

[tidal hill]

where do you guys go to get large touchscreens? i'm trying to find one that's 12" or ideally 15+, but can't seem to find any good options

[devout parrot]

Just a screen or does it need to run android or something?

I'd look on eBay for used kiosk hardware

[short cargo]

Hello, can anyone here help me with Skyconnect issue?

[golden thorn]

Ask your question and find out: https://dontasktoask.com/

[short cargo]

Ok I tried to install Silicon Labs Multiprotocol add on on my HA to get both Thread and Zigbee working via Skyconnect but now getting zigbee errors and can't communicate with my zigbee devices

[winged knoll]

You have to point your #zigbee-archived integration at the add-on

The use of the multi-protocol add-on is not recommended though 😉

[untold harness]

As long as you don't sneeze around it its stable 😛

[gloomy spoke]

Sneezing is known to cause inference to wireless protocols

[short cargo]

Yes I know, I did point it to the the add on

[winged knoll]

#zigbee-archived can help you if you tell them whether you're using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

[short cargo]

ok thank you, I'll try that

[trail solstice]

Hi there! Which mmwave-sensor do you guys recommend for presence detection?

[zealous dune]

Everything Presence

[trail solstice]

So they all work the same? 🙂

[devout parrot]

No that's the name of the device.

[low forge]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask but can anyone recommend a wifi or bluetooth power switch that can handle a space heater and somewhat moist environments? I have an airplane hangar that isn't sealed well so there can be moister in the air.

[cold moon]

https://byjasco.com/enbrighten-z-wave-plus-direct-wire-indooroutdoor-smart-switch-40a this is the only thing i can think of that is high amp and outdoor rated but it's zwave

[low forge]

Thank you. Looks pretty overkill.

[cold moon]

you want overkill with a space heater...

many smart plugs (indoor only) are rated for 15a or 12a but cant handle loads sustained at those high amps

https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/products/zooz-700-series-z-wave-plus-outdoor-smart-plug-zen05 this might work and is much smaller

[low forge]

That one looks nice. The space heater is just going to be temporary. I am going to install a block heater which only uses 300 watts.

[devout parrot]

Yeah leaving a space heater running unattended is usually a big no-no but if you have to, you want overkill on whatever you're using to control it

[cold moon]

and thicc wires

10gauge short as possible extension cord imo

[jagged crypt]

i could see the switch-bot and a proper electrical switch as a space heater solution

[cold moon]

bruh

[low forge]

Ya, I don't like the idea. lol. But I need like 3 hours of heat to warm my engine up.

[south dock]

Thank you! I was looking for some ideas and advise like this. Shelly devices are hard to find where I live. So sonoff with tasmota is the way to go for me. Does tasmota sonoff dualr3 support detached relay mode?

My plan is I want to use the default external switches because it gives a particular look to the house. Family members will not be happy if change them. So I want to use the tasmota dualr3 to ON/OFF the light and fan. And use the ifan to control fan speed. Most importantly, While still using the external switches to ON/OFF the light and fan.

So is this possible with tasmota ifan and dualr3? I don't just want the ifan to ON/OFF... I want to control speed with the ifan, use dualr3 and external switches to ON/OFF. So what kind of automation should be set for this?

[cold moon]

https://tenor.com/bzMbF.gif

[low forge]

lol

[devout parrot]

You wouldn't want the R3 because that doesn't support an external switch. You want to get a Sonoff MiniR4 and then flash that with your preferred firmware.

[cold moon]

ree esphome ree

[devout parrot]

Provided you have a neutral wire in your switch box.

[south dock]

2x sonoff minir4 because 1 for the light and the other for the fan? I believe minir4 is 1 gang right? Also, I should use this in detached relay mode with the ifan and external switch, right?

And I do have neutral wire

[devout parrot]

Do you have separate switches for the light and fan?

[south dock]

Yes seperate switches

[devout parrot]

Ok then yeah you'd need one for each switch and then set them to detached mode, which I think will give you two entities each in HA, someone correct me if I'm wrong, one for the switch and one for the relay. Then you just use the switch to automate shutting the fan on and off and leave the relay on, let all the actual control happen in the ifan.

[south dock]

Can you please tell me how did you know that the minir4 supports external switches and not the dualr3? Where do I look for this information in the sonoff website?

[devout parrot]

Hold on. I was wrong it does I just looked at the wrong picture.

[south dock]

So tasmota flashed dualr3 supports right?

[devout parrot]

Idk if it does the detached relay though, which is kind of important if you want to use a device like that to control other smart devices.

[south dock]

Thank you, I'll give it a try. Hopefully the detached relay mode will help me use the external switches and tasmota webui whenever needed.

[tight sorrel]

can anyone recommend an extremely small window sensor for velux roof windows ? Zigbee or Tuya

i have seen z wave stripes so narrow

[zealous dune]

small as in how small?

[tight sorrel]

smallest on market

[zealous dune]

that would be https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Xiaomi_MCCGQ01LM.html

[tight sorrel]

like the z waves stripes

https://sensative.com/sensors/strips-zwave/

[zealous dune]

nope

[winged knoll]

There's a Zigbee version of those

Not by Sensative, sadly, but they exist

[zealous dune]

there used to be a single stip like sensor but the battery life was poor

[tight sorrel]

and where to change the battery

[winged knoll]

Sensative also do a LoRa version

On the strip, you don't

(had a bunch of the Z-Wave Sensative strips, did love them)

[zealous dune]

can't remember the brand dammit

[winged knoll]

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/AV2010_21C.html

[zealous dune]

yes thats the one

[winged knoll]

The Terncy sensors are pretty damn small - they just don't play with TI coordinators

[zealous dune]

i put my xiaomi ones inside PVC windows

and some tuya ones fit inside doors without the shell

[tight sorrel]

I want it to be recognised as open even if you only press the handle to open it. Maybe people know what I mean about a Velux roof window.

[winged knoll]

That'd need a sensor on the handle

I'm not aware of anything like that

[zealous dune]

i never looked at how Velux windows actually work. Is there a latch inside like on multipoint lock doors?

there's a door sensor hiding under that tape 😄

[winged knoll]

You could at least have used white tape

[zealous dune]

i wanted to but lost all motivation to do it when i couldn't find it

[tight sorrel]

wait

i show u a pic what i want

i need to put a sensor in the red marked area

that the window is recognised as open in the handle position even when it is closed.

some ideas?

are such narrow strips also available with replaceable batteries?

[winged knoll]

Not seen any of that style with replaceable batteries

[tight sorrel]

Has anyone ever opened such a stripe and tried to replace the battery or is it definitely broken?

[winged knoll]

I'm sure it's possible, if you're good at soldering and get a compatible battery

Not going to be easy though

[terse pebble]

Maybe the magnet of a door sensor on the outside of the handle and the sensor on the window frame - so far up that it triggers as soon as the magnet is moved downwards with the handle? 🤔

[tight sorrel]

you would have to look at it nevertheless it would have to be extremely small the ones from sonoff would be too big

[terse pebble]

That's metal on the inside of the handle, right?
If the PCB of the door sensor fits inside one of those indentations, you could desolder the reed switch and use some wire as contact to the handle. If the handle is closed, the wires are electrically connected via the handle and if is opened they are not 🤔

Or solder the wires to the reed switch

Or... try some magnetic tape on the inside of the handle if it triggers the reed switch

And don't use black electrical tape 😆

[zealous dune]

I feel attacked

[terse pebble]

Black electrical tape on a white window is not very stealthy

[zealous ermine]

during the day

[devout parrot]

So I got my Athom wled bulb today
Set it up
Tried to integrate it
No dice because the bulb supports CCT. "wled device 'xxxxx' has a CCT channel, which is not supported by this integration"
Apparently there's a PR that's been in limbo for like a year that would fix that but yeah. I guess I should have looked into that before I bought it.

[round plinth]

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I'm curious if I could easily find a "smart" lock. More like a padlock. I am mainly interested in tracking open/close. Would consider a smart lock box, too.

[bitter heron]

Anyone know of any switched that go over the existing switch like the Lutron one does but not a dimmer? Just regular buttons?

https://www.amazon.com/Lutron-Aurora-Dimmer-Philips-Z3-1BRL-WH-L0/dp/B07RJ14FBS/ Basically this without the dimmer

[green summit]

What would be a good pir, mmwave, temp and humidity, brightness sensor? (either zigbee or wifi)

[zealous dune]

Everything Presence One

also the only one with all that

[boreal sierra]

in home assistant, using the Alexa intagration, i have 7 devices listed, i only use 5 in my home, 2 are at my moms place, am i sool trying to hide them from view?

maybe im answering my own question, but im assuming that since its linked to the amazon account, it just list all devices regardless. But has anyone been able to hide them anyhow i guess is the real question. Just doing Home cleaning and organizing and was curious.

[devout parrot]

You should be able to disable those entities in HA.

[boreal sierra]

it kept showing up even after i did, then i rebooted the system, not just reset and there gone. weird but worked

[sacred lake]

Hi, someone have set a samsung ty or lg tb to open a webpage on startup in full screen?

[stiff wharf]

If you would build a house and use some sort of "KNX" alternative that works better with HA (and also easier to install) what would you use? one requirement is lamps should be dimmable.

i was thinking Shelly Pro, but its only relays

[zealous dune]

there are relay boards with PWM dimmers that are centrally mounted

[stiff wharf]

with support for zigbee, tasmota or any other open system? :)

[zealous dune]

esphome and/or tasmota

they run on ESP32

[stiff wharf]

can you send me?

[zealous dune]

https://www.kincony.com/esp32-pwm-dimmer.html

https://www.kincony.com/32-channel-esp32-mosfet-board.html

[stiff wharf]

12/24v, is there any alternative with 230v? :D

[zealous dune]

not as a finished product

[stiff wharf]

bummer.. what you send me is really close what i want

[zealous dune]

if you're installing things wired like that you usually do it from scratch whcih means installing 12V lighting

[stiff wharf]

i dont like like my roof looking like a swiss cheeze with spotlights
i like the downlights more, and IMO its nicer to have 230v hanging lights over a table for example :)

[broken flower]

KNX works pretty good with HA though 😉

[cold moon]

I know you’ve gotta have a bias being the knx integration maintainer but would you actually plan to use knx if you’re building a new house in 2023 and knew you’d be using home assistant?

[broken flower]

I would. Imho it's still the least bad wired system available.

[cold moon]

I recently got a client in a very expensive custom home who wants to move to home assistant and I’m gonna have to rip out and redo so much stuff

Example after walking in the front door lol

[broken flower]

So it's quite solid for wall switches, presence detection, heating stuff etc. that should just work. You can always couple other systems to it (eg. with HA)

[cold moon]

I might start working with a custom home builder on new homes so something like knx would be a decent wired option I think

[warm edge]

Morning all. I'm exploring possibly implementing a Presence Sensor into my setup. (Looking at the Aqara FP2, Everything Presence Lite or Everything Presence One).

I have a room with an electrical outlet in the center of the ceiling. I'm trying to figure out how functional Presence Sensors are when ceiling mounted rather than wall mounted or facing straight ahead.

Can anyone speak to if adequately functional presence detection is viable with ceiling mounted Presence Sensors?

[cold moon]

Apparently the fp2 is buggy and should be avoided at this time

[winged knoll]

Functionality will depend on the sensor and ceiling height too

[zealous dune]

Its a matter of coverage that depends on the presence sensor fov

While their detection distance can range from 4 to 10m

[warm edge]

That was the consensus I was seeing.

[zealous dune]

Ceiling installs can't cover large rooms by themselves

[warm edge]

Can you elaborate on what you mean by 'by themselves'?

[zealous dune]

FP2 is trying to do too much so it doesn't do the thing it should consistently

[zealous dune]

Meaning a single presence sensor cannot cover large rooms naturally depending on the ceiling height

[warm edge]

The implication being two or more might be adequate where one was not?

[zealous dune]

Compared to walled install

[warm edge]

Or that ceiling height specifically is probably the biggest potential issue?

Gotcha.

[zealous dune]

It's all circumstantial to your situation

[tranquil nest]

Does anybody know a battery-powered, local first video doorbell? I can find battery, and local, but not both easily

[gentle fossil]

I should build and sell these it seems like its a gold mine

[tranquil nest]

take my money please. 🙂

I do like how the reddit threads answer the question with: "Well, what if you assemble and build your own hardware and software for it?"

like... sure, that's a solution. Just like "how can I buy my first house" can be answered with: "well, have you thought of a log cabin, built by hand with trees felled by your axe?"

[jagged crypt]

you'll need a hammer also to get those logs together 🙂

[gloomy spoke]

Get your Kickstarter going...

[jagged crypt]

kickstarter: plans to buy an axe and hammer, so you can fell your trees and build a HOUSE!

[gloomy spoke]

Sounds like something that Sears sold early in the 20th century

They'll sell you the plans and tools, you only need to add the house

[tranquil nest]

delivered by that new fangled railroad.

[jagged crypt]

this was in the interwebs recently - https://www.amazon.com/ECOHOUSEMART-House-FRAMING-D33H-986-brown/dp/B09MBXW7G2

[devout parrot]

I mean chances are someone's already done it, you'd just need to follow their example.

[tranquil nest]

the wife-factor would be low for any home built thing though, which is the bigger hurdle. Not much oppotunity for a sleek enclosure when it has to fit an rpi or something

[devout parrot]

It would probably be something more like a nodemcu or d1 mini but yeah I get it. So do you need two-way audio? What exactly are you looking for in your smart doorbell?

[olive jetty]

Hi i bought and installed new "smart light switch" it is connected with neutral but when the light is on it continuously flickers i am in canada and using the inovelli blue switch any one might know something about this.

[quasi spindle]

so I got a second router and connected it to the first router, how do I make devices in the second router accessable to the first router? I set up this route thing but it doesn't seem like I can see the devices that are connected to 192.168.1.191 (aka 192.168.50.1) For example on the second router there is a camera at 192.168.50.20

[wild atlas]

You might be able to put it in an access point mode rather than as a full router. You don't need the second one serving DHCP requests or a separate nat from your main network

Otherwise you'll be punching port forwards all over the place

[quasi spindle]

I see

I dont know if AP mode is compatable with the existing mesh network thats why I set it up seperatly (and to open up a new wifi channel)

[jagged crypt]

AP mode is compatible, it won't be part of the mesh

[quasi spindle]

Ok I am changing it to AP mode

Do I need to do anything special like changing the lan cable that connects it to the router from WAN to LAN?

[jagged crypt]

if you are adding an access-point to your LAN, you want both sides plugged in LAN usually

[quasi spindle]

Ok I think that worked, that was much easier than I was worried about

Very thankful for this community and all the help 🙂

[tacit pilot]

I've heard there are a lot of low quality air quality/CO2 sensors out there and the legit ones are more expensive. I'm fine paying more, but how do you differentiate the two?

[cold terrace]

the super high end Dyson fans report PM 2.5, PM 10, a Nitrogen Dioxide index, VOC index, temperature and humidity, formaldehyde

should always take readings with a grain of salt though. I can influence the readings by operating a ham radio

[zealous dune]

Look for NDIR sensors

[cold terrace]

I wonder if this is any good

https://www.amazon.com/Detector-Formaldehyde-Temperature-Humidity-Outdoor/dp/B0BXWGPNMM/

[tacit pilot]

From what I've heard, anything prepackaged selling for under like $100 is probably only an approximate

[patent river]

One thing you'll need to consider is the sensors for some of those more "exotic" gases have quite short lifespans.
Milesight (LoRa sensors I use) only quote a 6y lifespan for their HCHO sensor (not even sure how realistic that is), and I've seen some DIY ones only claiming 2.

[zealous dune]

What did we just say about the price?

[tacit pilot]

Ok thanks. Found this one https://www.adafruit.com/product/4867

[zealous dune]

Overpriced

[tacit pilot]

This one also looks good though? https://www.adafruit.com/product/5190

But doesn't seem to be ndir

And about the same price so I'm guessing also overpriced? lol

[zealous dune]

https://blakadder.com/seeedstudio-grove-all-in-one-environmental-sensor-sen5x/

For CO2 get an MHZ-19

SCD41 is good as well

But you'll be fine with 40

[tacit pilot]

yeah what is the difference?

That always catches me on these sensors. No difference in the description

Between the 40 and 41 I mean

[zealous dune]

41 has higher detection range which a normal home doesn't need

And higher price

[tacit pilot]

Nvm I see it in the technical details now

[tacit pilot]

Only a $5 difference though to feel cooler with the higher end one?

Ah the MHZ I saw on the esphome page. How does this compare to the SCDs?

[zealous dune]

Sure spend 10% more for something you don't need

MHZ is cheaper 😉

[tacit pilot]

Yeah I guess they're both "real" co2 sensors though

Wonder how they differ. Always just find that stuff interesting

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35261115

zdw

Low Cost CO2 Sensors Comparison: Photo-Acoustic vs. NDIR

Hacker News · Mar 22, 2023, 2:02 PM

Seems like a great resource

[zealous dune]

Good read

[tacit pilot]

It's so fascinating how there are these sophisticated sensors packed into something so tiny

Also just all the different types are fascinating. Like I was browsing the ESPHome page and there's one that detects nearby lightnight. So I assume you could theoretically get a heads up of an incoming storm even if off the (internet) grid

Cool, so basically one uses light and one uses sound

[cold terrace]

hikers listen to NOAA weather reports on channel 162.550

https://www.weather.gov/nwr/

the station sends out a tone burst if there's an emergency alert

[tacit pilot]

Yeah but that isn't as cool as holding a lightning detector in your hand!

[cold terrace]

😂

can't argue with that

[tacit pilot]

Think I'll probably go with the SCD4 since it also has humidity

[tacit pilot]

Interesting that this packaged m5stack one is cheaper than the bare board:
https://shop.m5stack.com/products/co2-unit-with-temperature-and-humidity-sensor-scd40
https://www.adafruit.com/product/5187

[zealous dune]

an SCD40 is 15$ on AliExpress

[tacit pilot]

What about a case?

[zealous dune]

it would ruin the temperature and humidity readings

[tacit pilot]

Even a perforated one like the m5stack one?

[zealous dune]

do you sweat more naked or in a perforated jumpsuit?

[gloomy spoke]

I have a feeling that blakadder.com has done a comparison and has the receipts

[tacit pilot]

depends if I'm surounded by people

[gloomy spoke]

See here on my blog....

[zealous dune]

a perforated jumpsuit would still be more awkward, lots of explaining to do

[tacit pilot]

To what extent were your measurements negatively affected by a perforated cover?

[zealous dune]

to the extent of not showing the real values

[tacit pilot]

Normally I don't care too much, I'm a backend engineer, but I have been trying when possible to clean things up a bit on the "frontend"

I mean if it's not the real value off by .00001% then I'll go with the cover

Rob said you might have the "receipts" so thought I'd ask 🙂

[zealous dune]

thats nota statistically significant value

2 deg celsius is

[tacit pilot]

Yeah that's what I'm saying. Is it 2 deg C? What about the affect on the CO2 reading?

[zealous dune]

the m5stack also converts 5v to 3.3v inside the case for some reason so thats extra heating

[tacit pilot]

Yeah I noticed that...

[zealous dune]

co2 reading is photoacoustic, temperatures don't affect it

well, room temperatures

[tacit pilot]

Might just go with the m5stack and baseline it against something else then offset

Though I know those aren't always linear. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. No better way to learn then making mistakes!

[zealous dune]

don;t compare to anything else and you wont know anyway

[tacit pilot]

I won't know what?

Oh

Well if it's so insignificant than why did you mention it?

[zealous dune]

usually people care

[tacit pilot]

I mean you said the case would "ruin" it so I thought you were saying it was pretty bad

[zealous dune]

it is but you think you'll fix it in post so its not that relevant to you

[tacit pilot]

Well that's tbd lol

@zealous dune Just finished reading your write up of that all in one sensor. Sounds pretty cool too. Are you using it for anything atm? Or just like a general air quality sensor for your house?

[zealous dune]

its a general air sensor in my workshop

[tacit pilot]

Nice, that's a good spot for it

[gusty relic]

Hello, im connecting two esp together via REST API.
/sensor/termo_nr_2
response:
{
"id": "sensor-termo_nr_2",
"value": 23.275,
"state": "23.3 °C"
}
This lamda cannot parse value:
- lambda: |-
json::parse_json(id(termo_nr_2).get_string(),[](JsonObject root){id(template_sensor_id).publish_state(root["value"]);});

error: JSON parse error: InvalidInput

Can someone help me? Thank you

[tacit pilot]

Sounds like a question for another channel? Doesn't seem hardware related

[winged knoll]

If you're using Tasmota or ESPHome they have their own Discords

Otherwise #diy-archived can probably help if you tell them what you're running on the ESPs

[high depot]

is there any zigbee motion sensors that reset faster?

[tacit burrow]

faster than....

[high depot]

yes sorry, ikeas motion sensors

[tacit burrow]

which reset.... how fast?

[high depot]

no idea took like 5 minutes

[winged knoll]

The Develco MOSZB-140 goes down to 10 to 20 seconds

[tacit burrow]

My hue motion sensors seem like they're more-or-less realtime?

But I think "presence" is different to "motion"

[winged knoll]

The Aqara P1 can be set down to 10 seconds, though it takes ~60 seconds from last motion to clear

[tacit burrow]

this morning

There's an occupancy timeout setting in hue, but I've no idea what it does. Mine seems to be set to zero

seems like a delta. goes plus/minus. Google says it supports down to 10 seconds. https://www.reddit.com/r/Hue/comments/zbdj0r/indoor_motion_sensor_how_to_reduce_timeout/

[high depot]

I've got a ledstrip i want to smarten up

Got an sunricher zigbee driver would that work or is there better stuff

[zealous dune]

What led strip, what driver?

[jagged crypt]

10 second cooldown on my hue motion sensors into hue hub -> configured in "another app" -> HA integration

[quasi spindle]

This is pretty cool, I've been using the nearby WAQI sensor not sure how much of a difference it makes to have one right next to you

[zealous dune]

Hey it's all the same air around the entire Earth, no difference...

[gloomy spoke]

in that it's an oxygen/nitrogen mix in rougly the same proportions 🙂

[quasi spindle]

I am not super educated on how it works, was surprised to see that some WAQI stations does not have ozone

[loud marlin]

Hi, I have the SONOFF Zigbee TI CC2652P adapter and I'm trying to add Ikea Tradfri and Philips Hue bulbs to my home assistant. If I set up mqtt and zigbee2mqtt then I don't need to purchase an Ikea or Philips Hue hub/gateway correct?

[fringe crater]

Correct

[loud marlin]

Thank you. Just need to get zigbee2mqtt up and working first.

[cold moon]

well

you will have to put the bulbs into pairing mode if they are not brand new

the z2m products page lists various ways to do that

[loud marlin]

Finally got it working. Thanks everyone for the help

[timid moth]

Hiya. I recently found that running HA on a SD card Pi is not so future-proof. If I would buy an SSD, would that be fine? So far things have been great so would rather not completely replace the RPi if I do not have to.

[winged knoll]

SSD would be fine, though you may need a powered USB hub too (and you certainly will if you have other USB devices)

[timid moth]

I only have a Zigbee dongle attached to the Pi for now

[winged knoll]

I'd always recommend using one regardless just to avoid the risk of data loss and system crashes

[timid moth]

But I will consider the USB power hub as well, thanks!

[winged knoll]

Well, then you'll certainly need a powered hub

[timid moth]

Would I then still use the USB extension cable for the Zigbee dongle?

[winged knoll]

Yes

[timid moth]

Ok perfect, thanks!

[winged knoll]

That cable doesn't provide power after all 😉

All it does is move the stick away from the RF noise

[timid moth]

Ah yeah that makes sense

I thought maybe the Hub could move it away from the noise

[winged knoll]

Well, that hub is also a source of noise

[timid moth]

Ah yes of course. Do you have an example for a powered usb hub? Just so I have some reference

[winged knoll]

For the UK, sure

Just buy some externally powered USB hub from Amazon

[timid moth]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/RSHTECH-Aluminum-Splitter-Extension-RSH-ST04-Black/dp/B0BTPLTGLJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?crid=3EJXBGAIP6O75&keywords=usb+powered+hub&qid=1698303416&sprefix=usb+powered+hub%2Caps%2C99&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1

Something like that right?

[winged knoll]

Yup, let me get the ones I bought

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01MQE53GL
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08KXNDTPV

[timid moth]

Awesome, many thanks Tinkerer!

[tight sorrel]

Can you recommend a smoke detector and radiator thermostat that are reliable? Zigbee or Tuya

[winged knoll]

Country?

[tight sorrel]

Germany

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Xiaomi_JTYJ-GD-01LM_BW.html

[crude cape]

Someone any ideas what the best thermostat is to get zoned heating? I have already one valve actuator but this depends on the themperature of the living room (were the google nest is now) i want to have my boiler to heat when even i set a temperature in a different room than the one with my Nest

[warm birch]

Guys, I’m tearing my hair out here. I have a bunch of zigbee devices in my kitchen but they can’t be picked up by my Sonoff dongle in the basement connected to HA. What is the easiest and most affordable hub I need to get to shove into the wall to coordinate these devices in ha?

Can I get a USB hub and use a power adapter or is the antenna not able to do both WiFi and zigbee? Seems like such a common use case I don’t understand what I’m missing here but surely you his don’t have raspberries with dongles on each floor in your house?

[zealous dune]

Your devices are too far away from the coordinator. You either extend the mesh with router devices or relocate the coordinator by using an Ethernet connected gateway

[warm birch]

Yeah… that’s sort of summarizing my question. Now to the answers…

What are the commonly used devices for this?

Do I just get a Aqara m2 hub or are there more versatile devices?

[zealous dune]

A plug or a bulb

Aqara M2 hub works only with Aqara devices

[uncut badger]

Most of my bulbs are zigbee, and that forms a mesh throughout my home. the signal hops from one to the next to the next, etc etc. if you can get mains powered zigbee devices between your dongle and your devides in the kitchen, it should work. mains powered is important, because battery ones tend not to forward signals. (mains ones might not, but likely will. battery won't.)

[winged knoll]

Also, hubs create new Zigbee meshes, which is the opposite of what you want

Buy Zigbee plugs, like Innr

[uncut badger]

an example of an ethernet connected gateway is something like a SLZB-06. which gets round the problem by putting your zigbee coordinator physically closer. (but now you need to connect it to the same network.)

[warm birch]

I have tons of Philips hue which should be able to help then or?

[winged knoll]

Yes, if you join them to that mesh, and don't cut power to them

[warm birch]

Hmm but they are already happy with a hue bridge.

[jagged crypt]

i have sengled smart plugs zigbee units as a parallel zigbee network

with sonoff temp sensors and ikea buttons hooked up to them

and a hue network parallel connected to hue-hub

or you could get a zigbee-ethernet unit as mentioned above

[warm birch]

I think this is the way. Sonoff has anything worth looking at?

That isn’t €120 😂

Or Tuya

[zealous dune]

No

[warm birch]

Wow

[zealous dune]

Tubes, athom or the smlight already recommended above

[jagged crypt]

sengled smart plugs in the US are less than $15 each 🙂

[jagged crypt]

this means you are already running two zigbee networks btw

[warm birch]

@jagged crypt yeah, I got that... but the SLZB06 can act as repeaters right, or do they always form their own networks?

[jagged crypt]

if you just need a router, that seems like overkill. If you want a remote coordinator, then fine, a third zigbee network in your house. Whatever you want is kind of waht the recommendations are coming in for you....

do you want tinker, or just have crap work?

(both are valid goals, but vastly different paths)

[warm birch]

haha, I like to tinker but after that the crap must continue to work on its own... that however I have never achieved in my lifetime 😄 I ordered a SLZB06M btw, seemed like a really neat device

[zinc hazel]

Hello, what is the best possible way to run Homeassistant? Is it the Raspberry PI?

[zealous dune]

It is not

[jagged crypt]

the way that works for you within the cost requirements you have

[zealous dune]

What's the budget?

[warm birch]

but now I'm looking at Sengel plug as well, it could be just as easy to litter the house with those or similar. But they don't seem to brag about zigbee but matter... is matter on top of zigbee or should I look at other plugs to act as small repeaters?

[jagged crypt]

sengled or innr wall plugs would be routers on your zigbee network, and paired up to your coordinator.

if blackadder suggest innr over sengled, grab those instead 🙂

[zinc hazel]

It doesn't matter at first. If it's worth the money, what kind of obzions are there?

[zealous dune]

I mean if there's no budget go nuts with a true server

[jagged crypt]

what's the automation goal? couple lights? lots of lights, and some cameras? camera's with AI detction? lots of additional add-ons?

[zealous dune]

I don't, all my Zigbee plugs are Tuya 😀

[zinc hazel]

So it’s a big house 😅 Many Lights some Sensors maybe some Cameras. But first I want to now witch different good Options there are

[zealous dune]

Any CPU from gen 6 onwards

You really need to have some parameters to make a choice

[jagged crypt]

the questions are being asked because what your goal is will change what you need. Much like asking, what's the "BEST" car to buy. Are you driving on highways or just offroad?

[zealous dune]

All I can say is don't buy toys to be your home server

[jagged crypt]

btw, PSA, these are back in stock - https://shop.m5stack.com/products/atom-echo-smart-speaker-dev-kit

[outer knot]

You can disable link preview in Discord by adding < before and > after the URL, like this: <http://home-assistant.io/>

[jagged crypt]

i can delete the preview also

Paul, some of us use old SFF machines with proxmox hypervisor and HAOS in a VM - https://www.servethehome.com/introducing-project-tinyminimicro-home-lab-revolution/

[zinc hazel]

So I have it, 28 roller shutters, 35 Lights and many sockets, 20 Thermostats and everything should be automated

[zealous dune]

And some use old laptops

That's nothing

[wild atlas]

Basically all the smart devices are in the bytes per second range of processing, it takes quite a few to actually stress a machine

[jagged crypt]

until you toss in camera processing

[zealous dune]

Or assist pipeline 🙂

[thorn bridge]

Hello everyone, what do you use best for HA as a room thermometer with display? For controlling heating and air conditioning. Thanks

[zealous dune]

A tablet with HA dashboard

[zinc hazel]

Which operating system does Homeassistant have to run on? Linux?

[winged knoll]

Well, any in the supported list 😉

See the topic of the #installation-archived channel

(it even runs on unsupported OS's if they support Python and you know what you're doing)

[gloomy spoke]

toasters, including. as long as they run ToasterOS

and potatoes

[zealous dune]

GarlicOS 🙂

[gloomy spoke]

you can guess what they need

[zealous dune]

Incidentally a real thing

[gloomy spoke]

lol

[winged knoll]

Please tell me it's based on NetBSD

[zealous dune]

It's a portable emulator console thingie OS, probably some form of Linux underneath

[winged knoll]

Dammit

[jagged crypt]

https://www.patreon.com/posts/garlicos-for-76561333

[runic tinsel]

Xiaomi Miija Bluetooth sensors for around 5€ a pop. Plus some Esphome proxies

[sage mason]

Any Aqara US smartplug users find there are some devices (lamps) that you just cannot seem to insert into the receptacle? I've got some devices (Anker pwoer bricks) that plug in stiffly, but do insert while the devices I really want to plug in (boring old lamps) that I cannot insert at all. I've verifed the neutral/load side (and reversing the lamp plug doesn't fit at all). This has happened on two different Aqara smartplugs, so it's not just a manufacturing thing (or so I think). Really bizare.

[fringe crater]

From the exploded view sort of looks like it has a tamper resistant receptacle, I think they can be a bit tricky to engage correctly sometimes.
https://www.aqara.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Multiple-Safeguards-In-Place-to-Ensure-Your-Safety.jpg

You need to lift that shutter when you insert the plug, it has to be inserted perfectly straight, could try wiggling it a bit. If the progs are bent at all it might not work correctly.

[fringe crater]

See ^

[sage mason]

That seems to match up with what I'm experiencing. I've tried extensive wiggling to no effect. I wish there was some sort of manual override for the shutter. Short of disassembling the plug, that is. 😄

And thank you! ❤️

Ah. I'm able to make it work if I stick a small screwdriver into the grounding plug and force the shutter up. A hack, but it works. Just never change what's plugged into this. 😛

[hollow lantern]

i was just wondering, how overkill can i make home assistant? without it being a complete waste of money? are there ram cpu limitations? thanks

[gentle fossil]

limitations? no

[hollow lantern]

oh ok. i got alot of spare hardware, but i would like to build kinda the one and done standalone, or go buy a top of the line nuc.

[gentle fossil]

you can run it on pretty much anything, from potato to latest and greatest

look at the requirements though

[proven girder]

Hardware requirements depend on what else you want to do with it too

[hollow lantern]

ok cool, yeh requirements are low, i want it to do all the things. for like 5 years atleast.

[gentle fossil]

"all the things" is a very vague statement considering what all it can do

[hollow lantern]

im building a jonsbo n3 its my plex and torrent and server, i was thinking of virtual box the home assistant on it, but then i do have to re start it here and there for windows updates and other stuff.

[gentle fossil]

windows is a very bad os for servers imo

you will not be happy

put linux on it, be 100 times more efficient

[hollow lantern]

yeh i know it is vague, i havent looked into all the things, but i own alot of lights and switches and cameras, and ill buy, mess around with what ever interests me.

[hollow lantern]

i know, i need some windows things that are not in linux, i get going then i want to start adding thunderbolt devices, might stick a 4080 in it, i change my mind alot, i have other setups.

[gentle fossil]

linux can pass through anything you want

virtualize windows

if you really need it

hint: you don't on a server

[hollow lantern]

i like linux, just not experienced enough, every time i setup, i end up killing it, cause i think i screwed it up. not a windows fan boy, but i know the most

[gentle fossil]

hyperv bad

virtualbox also not good

[hollow lantern]

i have a Z590 that im putting in a 11900k and 64 gig of ram mini itx, is what im starting with. i got a sonnettech card that has 2 nvme and usb c 10gb and 10gbe also on one pcie 3.0 x8 card

[gentle fossil]

linux would love that

[hollow lantern]

i got time to try linux again, i gotta see if drivers for the hardware

[gentle fossil]

no drivers needed, its linux not windows

[hollow lantern]

yeh its a pc/mac card, i buy from sonnettech cause there hardware is allways both, and i think linux also?

[hollow lantern]

https://www.sonnettech.com/product/mcfiver-pcie-card/overview.html

it is linux

allright gonna do that, what version you recomend?

[gentle fossil]

start with proxmox

[hollow lantern]

ok, i think i saw a sujestion for a video on that just recently on youtube

[gentle fossil]

it'll make the transition to linux easier for you, you can start vms with clicky clacky

[hollow lantern]

yeh i want to make it bare metal, as much as possible. cool, it does plex and uttorent?

[gentle fossil]

if you want to make it bare metal you will need to learn linux

in that case I suggest debian

you can install proxmox on debian also, very easy

[hollow lantern]

yeh, well i got time, i can leave my devices running the way they are at the momment, and i have my x299 rig running plex uttorrent right now.

[gentle fossil]

I have no idea what that means

[hollow lantern]

oh my x299 intel machine/server with windows.

[gentle fossil]

windows bad server

[hollow lantern]

its just a asus workstation board with 10gbe and thunderbolt built in, yes server in name, but just running windows 11 with a bunch of shared hard drives. and a bunch of capture cards.

[gentle fossil]

good night when it decides to update on its own

[hollow lantern]

my main use of server is store a bunch of stuff, i can network to it fast and have plex on it and utorrent and sometimes i setup a game server/lan on it. i just test and learn things, i drive a public bus as my $$$

i dont stress over backups, i got duplicates on many drives and one drive

[gentle fossil]

the learning curve with todays distros is very steep, you also get thrown a lot of warnings into your face when doing stoopid things

docker is here to help you, as are vms

with docker and vms you barely ever have to touch the os

so the likeliness of you breaking something goes against 0

but it is never actually 0

[hollow lantern]

i started with IBM Home director in the early 90's and X10 stuff, then messed around with windows xp media center addition. i just like this stuff.

[gentle fossil]

give proxmox a try, with a windows vm and another linux vm on top of that it will still perform better than your windows server

experiment in the linux vm, you can take snapshots as you go

[hollow lantern]

ok, cool i will do, yep that sounds interesting, need to learn all that anyways. 👍

[hollow lantern]

last time i ran home assistant, was over a year ago on windows with the virtual box. but i trashed/sold/tore down that rig. now starting again, with this new case, thats cool, fits 8 sata drives.

yep jonsbo n3

might watercool?

air most likely

[hollow lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZcOlW-DwrU this what im watching

[tacit burrow]

There’s a couple of good proxmox + home assistant ones. Eg Derek seaman or something like that

https://www.derekseaman.com/2023/10/home-assistant-proxmox-ve-8-0-quick-start-guide-2.html

[jagged crypt]

it works, but i've been dealing with linux for 30 years....

[hollow lantern]

thanks!

[jade jewel]

Anyone here a Daikin expert?

I have a bunch of these Mini Splits which the previous owners seem to have imported from Asia and I cannot find any documentation on these or well about their equivalent models

These have a S403 port which needs to be converted to a S21 port with this interface adapter and there are 3 different model numbers of this interface adapter with their matching indoor units but I cant seem to match them with my units

[nimble grotto]

Do you have any access to control them apart of the RF remote?

I am using https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/daikin/ for my multisplit

[unkempt jacinth]

Hi, I am searching for a smart lock compatible with home assistant. But here is the thing:
to open the door, I have to "hold" my key to the right and then push the door (no handle on the outside)
to close the door, I can choose to turn the key ones or twice ("normal" lock and extra pins)
So I need a smart lock with following states:

• open (hold the key slightly to the right for example 5 seconds)
• "idle" (not closed, not open, just the "thingy" from the handle on the inside in the hole)
• closed ones (normal lock)
• closed twice (with extra pins)

Bonus question: what is the name of such a lock (very common in belgium)

[jade jewel]

My units dont have that I am trying to add them using openmqtt and esp faikin project. For that I need a S21 port and on older units without the S21 port daikin has these interface boards which convert S403 to S21 now the only question where I am stuck at is which one to get

[nimble grotto]

I think that question is too specific for this chat? if there are forums for owner of these units who are involved in that project, I think you have better luck asking there.

[trail solstice]

Best smart bulbs

[abstract bobcat]

I have a house with an old alarm system from a previous tenant. It's not currently active and I think parts of it are missing, like one of the pieces on one of the door detectors. I'd like to integrate it with HA, where I already have a doorbell camera configured with frigate, and have a whole security/alarm tab. I don't really want to pay for remote monitoring, since that by its nature means sending a ton of sensitive data to someone else, but noonlight likes good with the HA integration that lets me determine when to send the alarm. I'm just not totally sure I understand the process for smartifying the security system. Konnected has a conversion kit, but I'm unsure if that'll let me see stuff like individual motion detectors (I'd like to hook one up to the hall lights), and how I'd be able to verify each component is working properly (I'm pretty sure they're all wireless too so I'll need to verify they all have good batteries). I'm also not sure how well it'll integrate with any new devices I buy, like some zigbee window shatter detectors

And how complicated is the konnected conversion kit install? Is that something I should get an electrician to do?

[winged knoll]

Konnected is aimed at wired sensors from memory, not wireless

[abstract bobcat]

Admittedly I'm not 100% sure they're wireless, they just seem so randomly placed that I don't suspect they are wired. I know my current alarms control panel is a concord 4. Do you know if that rules out wireless?

[warm birch]

@jagged crypt the Innr worked the magic, now I understand hub, router and end device better too so thank you for the help. I coulnd't help but notice they don't support power metering, which if I have smart plugs seems like something I would want to have. Do you know which smart sockets is good routers with PM?

[jagged crypt]

no problem, different versions may have power monitoring or not. My sengled does, but i know sonoff had some with powermointoring and some without and the different was one letter in the model number.

[warm birch]

cna you link the one you use. The only sengled I find that isn't wifi is only listing matter as their thing. Dont wnat to introduce more protocols if I can avoid it for now

I just want to stay far away from anything Tuya-based... geez I'm tired of their platform that everyone is abusing to release all sorts of "smart home"-junk

[dense sparrow]

I am looking for a good option for a 433 Mhz sender / receiver.
Can be standalone or USB device, but should have possibility for up-to-date firmware. And since my HA runs on a Raspi 4 I would also consider those tiny sender / receiver modules, which you can connect to the GPIO ports - I even have been using these on the same device before on openHAB). I even read about a NodeMCU running those modules with (1technophile/OpenMQTTGateway) , but I heard that this option is supposed to be only stable enough for testing purposes.

So if you have any advice for me, please let me know. Thank you.

[jagged crypt]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B092DBFFBY - you want the rectangle ones, not the square ones. And don't pay $90 for four, they normally have 20-40 off coupons

I don't remember if you are in a country with US plugs either

[zealous ermine]

I'm currently using OpenMQTTGateway on a ESP32 with a CC1101 module at 433MHz. so far, it works pretty well for the few months it's been up & running. the only real change I had to make was a higher gain antenna so it could read sensors across the house. it's really going to be a matter of what you need it for, but the base function is pretty solid.

[runic tinsel]

I have an RFXcom device that works across my apartment. It picks up the various intertechno remotes/plug and manages Somfy blinds. It wasn’t super cheap though

http://www.rfxcom.com/epages/78165469.mobile/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/78165469/Products/23104

[dense sparrow]

I have an extra NodeMCU and a D1 mini (and those CC1101 modules) so I will try that approach. It is way cheaper than @runic tinsel's suggestion. Thanks for your feedback

[leaden drift]

do presence sensors actually detect presence.. they seem to me like their motion sensors... as when I don't move the lights turns off even though I'm in the room. I bought a zy m100 zigbee from aliexpress as it was well praised but doesn't seem to work and after changing sensitivity in home assistant the sensors broke and only the lux sensor updates (It happened before, I fixed it once by reseting things but doesn't seem to unbrick it's self anymore.)

I set the delay to 15 seconds before it turns off, Is that the reason or did I just buy a shit sensor

[winged knoll]

Depends on what they are, mmWave ones do (ish), PIR ones don't

[leaden drift]

yeah I bought a 5ghz mmwave sensor since it was apparently better accuracy but less ranger

[winged knoll]

That one looks to be mmWave, but yeah, range isn't always awesome

Max 10 meters, and probably only half that in reality

[leaden drift]

yeah this model was only 5.5m

the 2ghz one is 10m

[zealous dune]

Technically they detects movements

PIR detects heat

[winged knoll]

Well, moving heat 😛

(was just reading your review of that unit)

[zealous dune]

5.8Ghz sensors have the largest range combined with accuracy

[leaden drift]

nvm

I had a 2.4ghz one actually

since it said in description it was better

[zealous dune]

AliExpress description?

[leaden drift]

yes

[zealous dune]

Trustworthy source indeed

[zealous dune]

Note the sarcasme

[leaden drift]

is it actually a lie

[zealous dune]

It's not but that's 24 not 2.4

There's a difference

[leaden drift]

oh I thought it was like WiFi gigaherts lol

tbh at this point I would rather have a camera for presence detection lol

[zealous dune]

Good luck with that 🙂

Have you considered factory resetting the sensor and starting fresh?

[leaden drift]

you can't factory reset it

you can only unpair it from zigbee2mqtt

I bought a tuya hub to connect it to smart life

as that might get it to work

it keeps stop updating the presence sensors if you mess around with sensitivity controls

[zealous dune]

Messing around without understanding them tends to do that

But the 24Ghz version is untested by me and features completely different hardware

Is it even labelled as ZY-M100?

[leaden drift]

yes it is when I had zha it was called that

do you have a zy m100 sensor

[zealous dune]

Zha can call it George doesn't mean it's George

I have I think 5 now

[leaden drift]

if you don't move is presence detected?

[zealous dune]

And two dozen others

Yes

[leaden drift]

is urs 24 or 54 ghz

[zealous dune]

Some even detect the difference in motion

Mine are 5.8, 10, 24, 60

[leaden drift]

do you have zigbee2mqtt edge version

[zealous dune]

Amongst other version yes

[leaden drift]

oh ok damn i bought a 5.4ghz one from a different seller, maybe that will work better

[zealous dune]

I don't think the sensor is the issue

[warm birch]

took me a while and nearly a divorce before I realised what you need in your home is mmWave and what you need outside is PIR 🙂 everytime the bathroom got dark while my wife was in the shower and her dance to light it started I swear I learned 15 new cuss words each time

[warm birch]

bummer, can't find the european version anywhere. Seems discontinued

[wise sail]

@warm birch I have at MMWave is bathroom for same reason....

I'm going to test a theory that MM can go through walls though and try it on the other side of the bathroom wall where I have a utility room

[warm birch]

do you know if mmWave see through glass well? Like shower glass doors? I have it placed really weirdly now and would like to move it but haven't been able to get a reliable take on this

[wise sail]

I know the device I use has sensativiety settings in Zigbee2MqTT

[zealous dune]

It's not a theory but it depends on the wall

Mine turns on the light before opening the bathroom doors

But no luck through a 40cm brick wall... Stupid physics

[leaden drift]

would a wifi or zigbee mmwave sensor be better

[zealous dune]

What most don't tell you is that mmwave can be sensitive to water moving

[leaden drift]

i have a wifi smart life bulb and its instant when turning it on home assistant so i feel like wifi is better?

[zealous dune]

It's arguable which is better

[wise sail]

I'm just going through drywall, I'm hoping its not do bad

1 layer as utility room is unfinished

[zealous dune]

Your wifi might not be as fast if you go via cliud

[leaden drift]

i have tuya local and its instant so might go with it

[zealous dune]

This my drywall thickness

[wise sail]

ewww

[zealous dune]

It's not but close enough

[wise sail]

I'm looking at 1/2"

[zealous dune]

That's not even a wall 🙂

[wise sail]

well like I said the backside is an unfinished room

so really I'm just going to tape the sensor to the back of the drywall

because my sensor is ugly

[zealous dune]

It'll work, maybe some diminished range

[wise sail]

works like charm!

[quasi spindle]

am I missing anything to open port 9999 for kasa switches? In my WAN settings I have TCP 9999/9999 enabled

[jagged crypt]

you may want to add some additional context to your statement/question....

[quasi spindle]

I get lots of log errors for all of my tplink kasa switches that look like this 192.168.1.131 data: Unable to connect to the device: 192.168.1.131:9999
on the router page I can see that these devices are maintaining their connection fine on that end so I have to assume when HA does a check for the device on 9999 it times out

[jagged crypt]

192.168.1.131 can't talk to 192.168.1.131?

if you are seeing issues with HomeAssistnant trying to original connections to KASA switches 9999 and getting time outs, that routing and/or firewall issues, yes.

same problem? https://community.home-assistant.io/t/kasa-plugs-and-switches-giving-errors-and-warnings/543954 - no answer though

[quasi spindle]

yeah same problem I think

[jagged crypt]

this looks like ha->switch:9999 is failing

so routing, firewall, or perhaps switch is rate limiting connections (intentionally or because they are super slow)

[quasi spindle]

Do you think the rate limit could be helped by disabling the switch integration from my alexa?

Firewall is disabled, routing like I said I have a Port trigger enabled on 9999

all devices also have a static ip

[jagged crypt]

i don't think the alexa is polling the device

[abstract bobcat]

BTW I want a cellular backup. Is the usual way to handle this making an old phone a permanent hotspot that my HA machine can connect to in a pinch? Is there anything I can do to make sure if I, say, activated the noonlight alarm and it fails because the internet is cut, then it tries again after connecting to the hotspot?
Also, I'm looking at this plan for data, and I think it's probably the best I'll find: https://charge.co/plans . Since it's just a backup I'll rarely if ever use the data, so it'll be a small one time cost then just a $3/mo ongoing cost.

[quasi spindle]

im so defeated, I cant figure out why it keeps happening, it stopped last night for about 10 hours but basically for the entire time I have been using HA it happens extremely frequently

[jagged crypt]

is something else failing, or just seeing the logs?

[quasi spindle]

yeah the switch becomes unavailable during that time

[jagged crypt]

thepaperpilot, house router can deal with internet failover possibly easier. As to mobile plans, whatever works for you, in whatever country you are in.

[elder latch]

Anybody know how I can configure or add Zwave JS support for an unsupported device (Vemmio Room Sensor) none of the documented parameters show in the UI so I’m unable to change basic things like the report frequency.

http://vemmio.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Room-Sensor-manual.pdf

[runic tinsel]

I would like to install a charging wall box in the underground parking garage of our building. Is there any standard/brand that would allow me to control this from HA over the mobile network? Getting LAN to the garage would be a bit of a job

[quasi spindle]

anyone running unbound on pihole with HA? any cons?

[haughty quail]

Hi guys, would this be the right place to ask for some assistance in wiring a new smart switch module in place of the old "dumb" light switch? I'm trying to figure it out but the different wiring diagram notations are confusing me a bit...

[vapid socket]

Only immediate con that I can see: if you f*** one of the services and have to set something up from scratch, the other services on the device might be screwed, too. Also, resources ... HA + pihole + unbound ... depends on your hardware. If you have a Pi2, I'd not recommend doing that 😉

[devout parrot]

Sure. Ask and if someone can help they'll help you. Make sure you tell us what device it is and what country you're in.

[haughty quail]

Okay thanks!

So, as I mentioned I'm trying to install a Zigbee switch in place of an old dumb switch. Both are 2-channel switches (aka 1-way but control 2 ceiling lights).

Pics 1 and 2 are the current wiring. Pic 3 is the new switch.

I'm in EU, my new switch is a "no neutral" one.

Oh, and I don't intend to have a physical switch connected to the smart module (as it's in an awkward place - so I will control it with a separate wireless switch via HA)

The lettering on the current switch is kinda tripping me up, as I couldn't find any instructions online using similar notation 😓

I'm thinking it should be:
Brown wire (Live) to L
Gray and Yellow/green wire to L1 and L2

... however, how come the yellow/green wire is used in this way? I thought yellow/green is for Ground always

[rich venture]

reason they used yellow green is that it wasnt installed by a professional electrician
what probably happened: hey i ran ot of x color, ill use green yellow instead

[haughty quail]

I see... That's explains a lot, yeah (a lot of other wires in different places of the house don't match color coding rules either, sadly).

[warm helm]

What are you guys using for a sensor to tell when the garbage has been collected? I've used Aqara sensors but twice now they've gone missing. Even though the adhesive seems strong I'm guessing they get knocked off somehow when the garbage truck picks up the bin with those mechanical arms and lifts it and tips it into the back.

[rich venture]

where did you glue them?

[fallow cape]

TIL that digikey will allow you to modify order quantities without having to cancel your order, now waiting for 10x pi zero 2 ws instead of 8x

doing bt presence tracking and remembering that I have more rooms

[wise sail]

Not sure if this is a hardware question or front end question, but any experiences using cheap android tablets in kiosk mode versus a more spendy tablet, want replace a weather station setup with a HA set and integrate my ecobee setup in

[wild atlas]

I use an Amazon fire tablet with wall panel installed, wouldn't really recommend it to others, plain android would be much easier to deal with for the install and configuration

But it works really well now that it's all setup

[gilded steppe]

Any recommendations on a zigbee device that works with zha and connects over ethernet instead of USB? Ready to get rid of my hue hub but bulbs are too far away from my HA instance. Found the zigstar lan gatewaay and it looks nice, but doesn't appear to be able to be shipped to the US.

[wild atlas]

https://tubeszb.com/product/cc2652p2-based-zigbee-to-poe-coordinator-2023/

[golden thorn]

@gilded steppe I know you're not using Z2M but take a look here for more options: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/adapters/

[wild atlas]

Don't remember if it's zha compatible, but it is poe powered and works with home assistant

[gilded steppe]

Thanks!

[devout parrot]

it works with both ZHA and z2m

[stone magnet]

Or any usb stick and a pi or something and send that serial over tcp

[slate jewel]

I've used Teclast and cheap Samsung A7 tablets with success. All run Fully Kiosk Browser so the tablet doesn't need to be special.

[frigid turret]

I want to switch from my Pi4 to a mini PC, the pi is sluggish and I want to run Frigate on the new install (new house). I have a bunch of 1TB m.2s that I would like to use. The thing will be screwed against the wood panel in the utility closet. Any recommendations?

Or maybe I should just use my old Ryzen 5 based laptop?

[golden thorn]

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[remote narwhal]

Which smart thermostats can you recommend? There are quite a few out there.

[wise sail]

@remote narwhal that depends what you are trying to do, what are you looking to do, I have Centralite Pearl which is zigbee thermostat that I do all my automation from HA. All it basically does it control my HVAC system with set temps and HA does everything else

[remote narwhal]

I just want to control the temperature with maybe a timeplan and air humidity.

I actually don’t know what else would make sense. I want to see all rooms in one app and don’t walk threw the whole house.

[quasi spindle]

ive been fighting with my network setup for like 4 days
it looks like the culprit was pihole somehow but I fixed it

[leaden drift]

how can i add a sensor to automations or whatever it is called??

it is missing presence state in automations

it is mm wave sensor

[devout parrot]

#automations-archived can help with that

[leaden drift]

thanks

[devout parrot]

Ok so do you have a single thermostat for the house or multiple? What thermostat do you have currently?

[wraith oriole]

Been having problems with homeassistant restarting several times a day and now it is crashing and not restarting could it be my rpi3? now I'm having to power off the pi and restart it to get HA working again

[coarse flame]

hi all im looking for some recommendations on something that works over wifi, and lets me monitor power consumption of a specific outlet

from what i can see , smart plugs do that, however i cant fit a smart plug in the place i want it to go, ive also looked into shelly stuff that go inside the wall connecting to mains, but as far as im aware they are made for switches ?

[remote narwhal]

Well I actually have no idea. I have a oil heater in the basement and these in each room.

[devout parrot]

Shelly PM would probably do what you need if you've got the room for it inside the junction box

[coarse flame]

great will look into it i guess

u referring to this right ?