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jagged crypt
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I've got a ubiquiti dream machine pro as my router/firewall, so no dealing with pfsense

young cloud
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I migrated home assistance last week from my raspi to a hp microserver gen8 on which i run proxmox and pfsense, went pretty smooth

wooden helm
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Hey everyone 🤓
I’m thinking of putting my electric oven (rated at a maximum of 3490 Watts) on a smart plug with a 16A rating to track its consumption. In theory this should be okay, as we have 240V here in Germany and thus 16A should handle 3840 Watts. But alas, I’m not an electrician and wanted to ask here. Thanks everyone ☺️

fringe moon
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That is a huge oven, but yeah, should be fine with a reputable brand plug

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And you will probably never run it at 100% anyway

proven girder
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Wouldn't recommend a cheap plug for that sort of wattage

wooden helm
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Is Meross considered a brand plug? I really don’t know 🥲

fringe moon
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I run my water heater with a tplink plug, it is 3000w, the plug is 16a

wooden helm
wooden helm
fringe moon
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It should pop the plug tbh, if it is designed properly

winged knoll
wooden helm
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Would you trust an IKEA manual with those energy claims? 🤔

winged knoll
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Cheap plugs often claim 16A when they really don't even support 10A

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I'd trust Ikea over Sonoff

proven girder
fringe moon
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The tplink hs110 has been solid for me

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Cheap too

wooden helm
void dirge
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Do you need to switch the oven with the plug?

wooden helm
void dirge
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One safe Idea would be to use she Shelly EM instead, it is not cheap and needs to be build in a separate electircal box but there is no current flowing over the measurement unit because it is using an amperage clamp

wooden helm
wooden helm
real edge
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To be safe, you would want the plug to be rated for a higher current draw than your fuse or breaker. Or use a CT instead.

void dirge
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perhaps one local electrician could do this for you - tampering with the breaker box is no good idea, i thought of an extension cable with the shelly in the middle (in a box)

wooden helm
wooden helm
void dirge
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32 Amps in residential is for sure no standard here in germany

wooden helm
gentle fossil
void dirge
wooden helm
void dirge
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is it an oven with cooking plates?

gentle fossil
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yeah a shelly 3em will do that fine

wooden helm
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And after a second thought, that destroys the 16A idea since there is probably more going through 🙈

void dirge
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if you got the oven and the stove connected to one outled the it is probably three phase

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with 3 16A breakers

wooden helm
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Okay, but if that’s the case, a 16A plug could work? Since the breaker would pop if if passed that mark? 🤔

void dirge
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the problem is, as others here mentioned: most of the plugs - if not all do not meet the printed on specs

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downside on a plug is the current is always flowing over a eventually cheap chinese relay

wooden helm
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Hmm, okay 😢
That makes sense 🙁
But it could provide an opportunity to sue someone 🤭

void dirge
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have fun with sueing chines companies 😄

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You want to track only your oven / stove? if not think about a shelly 3em in your breaker box installed by an professional 😉

wooden helm
void dirge
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but you get a nice energy dashboard in homeassistant 😉

young cloud
real edge
jagged crypt
raw gorge
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Im trying to flash GL-S10 as a ESPHome BT gateway using this website https://blakadder.github.io/bluetooth-proxies/. But the flashing halts on "Preparing installation..." every time i tried. Anyone has managed to get this flashhed? What am i doing wrong here?

winged knoll
wise grove
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Has anyone got their finger on the pulse of Yoolax blinds? Their site isn't accepting payments and seems to be out of stock on Amazon

abstract coral
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Looking to start setting up some home cams inside and outside, outside isn't really for intrusions (I live in the middle of the woods) more for catching passing wildlife? I'm more for opensource hardware if possible and I'm not against building my own or flashing some firmware if needed

cold moon
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Sounds like you’ll want to go the frigate route

abstract coral
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I'll pop over there thanks @cold moon !!

thin latch
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any recommendation for a slider dimmer for UK style wall box, that connects with zigbee?

past summit
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Does anyone use a fire hd as a wall mounted tablet to control HA? Is it the best tablet for that?

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Would prefer to be anle to use the camera as an rtsp stream/surveillance camera when out of the house too

agile olive
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I have a bluetooth ESP Muse Luxe speaker. It can't be detected in HA in any way, not microphone, not as a speaker. I was trying to use it in Rhasspy Assistant but without luck. Is this ever be supported? Anyone knows?

nocturne bramble
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Are there any Chinese amperage-voltage meters working with HA?

thin latch
nocturne bramble
thin latch
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If you don't mind modding things, using emporia with a custom nosed firmware might be an option. I haven't tried it yet personally but I was searching for one as well and found it.

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With 2 main 100A sensors + 8 circuit 50A sensors, it costs ~$125, but needs to flash the firmware manually.

nocturne bramble
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I’ve recently found cheaper and easier solution - Shelly EM meter with 50A clamp (enough for my needs). At least I have some choice now 🙂

dawn orchid
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hope im right here, im looking reduce my electricity usage and one idea is cutting the docking stations at least over night. naturally this would mean that my vacuum needs to charge in the morning.

my question: is the charging going to use more power than keeping it "online" the whole night?

nocturne bramble
dawn orchid
tacit burrow
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A single smart plug with energy meter is pretty cheap and ha integrates nicely. I use tplink Kasa plugs

heady reef
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who can help with (active mode on bluetooth proxies.) settings

zealous dune
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what exactly?

heady reef
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I install all atom device and i see this devices in HA. But i want this use for my BLE phone tracking. I dont know how use the yaml file or how to set up this file to my HA. I live with HA only two weeks...

zealous dune
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your BLE phone has to emulate an iBeacon

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if it does the BT proxy will catch it

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did you install the bt proxy using the web installer?

heady reef
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yes and also in HA phone app i enable i beacon. Now i see in HA this..

outer knotBOT
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@heady reef I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
heady reef
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I really don't know what that means. I see that the device is unavailable and in one case it is 10m away

tiny plinth
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Hello! I am starting my smart home (upgrading an existing structure in Wisconsin, USA) from scratch and looking for recommendations on hardware. I am looking to automate lighting, security, and anything that can save me time. I have a dedicated server and network with POE capabilities, however I prefer wireless in some instances since I don't like putting holes in things. Any particular brands I should be sticking to and steering away from?

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I have had bad luck with Merkury bulbs already so they are off the list. Budget is not an issue.

cold moon
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Zigbee has the most smart bulbs and you can bind them with zigbee light switches so they always work even if hass is down

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Zwave only has a couple bulb options but a pretty good selection of smart switches, dimmers, and sensors

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Wi-Fi you can get cheaper rgbw cct bulbs flashed with esphome, tasmota, or wled

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Explaining what you want to do helps hone in even more

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As far as particular brands, for zigbee you can’t go wrong with hue bulbs and motion sensors

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For zwave zooz and aeotec make good products

tiny plinth
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Is Zigbee a brand or protocol?

cold moon
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Protocol

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You buy a zigbee coordinator (PoE or usb) and then pair various devices to it and make a mesh

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Same with zwave and a controller usb stick

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Hue devices are ‘built’ to be used with their proprietary hue hub but work great paired to a zigbee coordinator

tiny plinth
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Sounds like Zigbee is the way to go for reliability

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Incase of power outage as well

cold moon
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Home assistant would be controlling the coordinator using a driver such as zha or Zigbee2mqtt

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Power outage has nothing to do with what I’ve said above

tiny plinth
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Long term power outage would be the only case where my server would be down

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3 Server HA Proxmox cluster

cold moon
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Zwave and zigbee controller / coordinator are still single points of failure

tiny plinth
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I have a backup generator but my server rack would get shut down due to power consumption

cold moon
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You can backup the nvm on them and restore to a new device if you have them backed up though

tiny plinth
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So I couldn't mesh in 2 controllers?

cold moon
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I think it’s possible in some scenarios

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Look it up on whatever driver you decide to go with

tiny plinth
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The plot thickens...

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Thanks for the info @cold moon I appreciate the help 🙂

cold moon
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Yep

hoary kite
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Hi!

I am setting up my home automation based on KNX with HA as my server. I need to select smart door locks for my home that can be integrated with HA.

I am keen on:

  1. August Smart Lock Pro with WIFI bridge
    https://august.com/products/august-smart-lock-pro-connect
    or
  2. any option from Yale that may be available in India
    https://yaleonline.in/collections/smart-locks-for-home-with-fingerprint?gclid=Cj0KCQjwk5ibBhDqARIsACzmgLTfeyla77CIFFnpKNtb8jVKBHhGLrHRMZiEQeEGY-oWQdS32FgPLBoaAqGtEALw_wcB

Can somebody guide me what would be the best option for me.

Thanks

thin latch
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I would prefer a full blown access control system whenever possible. I don't really like those all in one smart locks. This is just my personal opinion. But whatever you do, don't use those Chinese all in one password lock keypad that has all the electronics inside. Those can be cracked by just opening it up and shorting a wire.

hoary kite
thin latch
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I can't. I don't have any experience with it. But after seeing many smart locks with scary vulnerabilities in them, I won't consider them anymore.

north rivet
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Any ideas on smart locks for euro profile? I am looking for something that from the outside still uses a key, preferably something that can reuse the cylinder or at least allows to swap it

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the goal is to have no electronics available outside and have the access to everything locked from the internet (just ingress VPN to HA)

sly owl
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Any recommendation for a label marker for home automation icons and such?

thin latch
sly owl
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Yeah, they also have one with bluetooth for Android devices at half the price it seems

thin latch
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Yes

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I am not sure if those supports custom image printing though

sly owl
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I see it's possible to print your own images with it so it should be possible, but I'm trying to find out if there's a simpler way to import and use material design icons.

thin latch
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Just checked YouTube, yes, it supports custom image

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At 5:23

north rivet
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also any experience with nuki locks?

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apparently the bridge can be done with an esp32

warm edge
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Good morning all. I had a question on transferring your HA build to another piece of hardware.

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I'm currently running HA via a VM but am going to transfer my build to an ODROID-N2+.

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If I load my backup and use the same Zigbee controller, that should cover the transfer and transition of everything, right?

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I won't need to repair any of my Zigbee devices as they'll all be connected to the controller which is making the transition?

tender aurora
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can esphome act as a BLE proxy?

glossy prism
golden oyster
# hoary kite Thanks. Can you suggest a full blown access control system?

Are you on the CIA's watch list? If not I'd be more concerned about the guy who shows up at your house with a big rock to throw through the window to get in vs. a "scary vulnerability in a lock" No one is going to sit outside your house and hack a lock when they can kick the door down. I don't know about KNX, but I'd just get whatever lock makes sense for you based on the features.

frozen tundra
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Hey, all the history data of my greenhouse sensor has been deleted is this normal ? normally i could see the data for the whole year but now it only show less then 1 month ( since last update )

heady rover
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Hello! I have recently set up home assistant on a raspberry pi 4, however for "reasons" I want to tear down the hdmi pipeline in the RPi and save a few mA:s, I was able to quickly fix the LED lights with the boot config, but no such option exist for the HDMI pipeline. Have anyone done something like this, any pointers would be nice, cheers for the potential help 🙂

tender aurora
heady rover
shut vine
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I have multiple Aqara window/door sensor and all are working great. But I just unboxed a new pair and there is no blue light when I try to pair them. I measured the voltage of the battery and it's 100% full. 3.3 V. But no matter how long I press its button (multiple times in a row, holding it for 3s, for 10s,..) no reaction from the sensor. It's completely new, just opened the box. Any idea how to fix? Or is it just broken?

cold moon
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Have you tried gently throwing it against a wall?

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I don’t have anything to add it sounds like you’ve tried all the options lol

surreal marlin
keen flame
shut vine
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Unfortunately not. Bought in China... just tried another battery that is working in another sensor. Also not working. And the battery from the sensor not working has no problems in another sensor. So it's 100% the sensor which is dead with any battery..

surreal marlin
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it could also be a defective button that simply does not pass the signal through. you could open it and see if you can bridge the contacts, if it does anything then it's the button

keen flame
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Does everyone here use Sonos speakers or are there other brands that I should be considering for my HA-controlled home audio?

brazen osprey
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Do you know any bluetooth buttons (ideally decent looking?) that work with home assistant over esphome proxy?

jagged crypt
keen flame
eternal gust
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I have a mix, but mostly google nest stuff.

latent pollen
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Anyone have recommendations for light switches on the european market?
I'm planning to replace several switches in places where I can't swap the bulbs, and i want to make sure i'm not stuck with a solution that I'll regret in a year (or less).
With Matter on the way into the market I'd like to choose a company that would upgrade their existing products to the new standard.
I'm lost in all the brands and it's hard to find out what will be usable for the next few years.

gentle fossil
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I have very little space left behind wall outlets/switches and started out with zwave for them. Served me very well and the zwave switches are the smallest, not even sonoff can beat that years later.
Everything else i have is zigbee though.

These standards won‘t die just because matter comes to the table (if anytime soon)

latent pollen
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Fair point.
I have been streering away from Zwave since my impression is that even though Zigbee is more of a "messy" standard, with vendors implementing products with cluster id's that dont conform to the standard.
It seems that it still has the widest compatibility, and number of devices.
Matter being a nice point to that case. if i understand it correctly, it based on the cluster ids and such of Zigbee, making it easier for vendors to move towards the interoperable standard.

I've tested a couple products from Namron mainly since they had the longest list of cluster IDs on the zigbee2mqtt.io devices page. and I have been happy with the Dimmer (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/1402755.html).

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Although i have no idea if Namron will update their stuff..

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I contacted them about firmware, and they said they're working on a page to download firmware updates.
but for now I need their hub to update. and thats the kind of stuff i want to avoid.
and why i like the IKEA products, since home assistant can OTA update them.

winged knoll
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I'd not expect that any manufacturer will update their stuff to Thread/Matter

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Those that do are likely to be the exception, since most will view it as an opportunity to sell new stuff

latent pollen
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hmm. yeah. Thats probably the most likely outcome.
Urgh. maybe i should wait with the upgrade..
I really want the last few lights to be included in Home Assistant though 😛

winged knoll
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These standards won‘t die just because matter comes to the table (if anytime soon)

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Just buy Zigbee, or Z-Wave, or whatever, and worry about Thread/Matter in another year or two/five/ten

latent pollen
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Home Assistant really does make the protocol a bit irrelevant.
As long as i can get it into HA, I'll be relatively sorted.
Since i'm mostly on zigbee i think I'll focus on that.
I like that i can tie switches and buttons together right on the Zigbee network so even if HA is down, the basics like on/off, dimming still works.

thin latch
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Is there any smart switch offers the following?

  • uses zigbee
  • can act as a dumb switch only when the HA is not available
  • can be used as an input switch to HA when HA is online
  • can send signal to HA to dim a dimmable smart light
latent pollen
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Do you want the switch to NOT change the light it controls when connected to HA?
or would it be fine to have it allways control the lights it connected to, and update HA with the state when changed, and also allow HA to set state?

thin latch
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Basically acts as a dumb switch when HA is not available, act as a smart button when HA is available

latent pollen
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ah, nice. then i understand.
do you know if you have a Neutral wire in the place you want it installed?

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and what market are you in? EU, US, Other?

thin latch
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Yes, there are neutral

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UK standard

latent pollen
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hmm. i'm not familiar with the UK market.

thin latch
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And one nice to have feature would be power metering

thin latch
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What options do I have for 220/230 volts?

winged knoll
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Pretty sure there's no smart switch that integrates with HA so that it knows if it should directly operate the load or not

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That's the kind of thing that you'd need some custom firmware for, something that could check the state of HA and update its own config

thin latch
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Then do you know any UK smart button for controlling HA dimmer?

winged knoll
thin latch
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Ah, didn't know such list existed, thanks

winged knoll
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You can search it (eg Dimmer)

thin latch
winged knoll
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#zigbee-archived has a pinned message that answers that, but you've got ZHA built into HA

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ZHA doesn't have a list of known working devices

thin latch
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thanks

chilly orchid
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Got an old computer. i7-3770 is good enough to run home asisstant?

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Plan to install ubuntu and then HA in docker.

glossy prism
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Only definitely

chilly orchid
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Ok thx. Needed to know it its enough 😁

winged knoll
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If it has a CPUMark of over 900 it'll be ok

chilly orchid
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Cca 6400 😎 ok. Thx 😉

void hollow
glossy prism
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Does Shelly have a Zigbee relay?

void hollow
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No but you wouldn't need zigbee for this scenario

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I would use the js scripting in Shelly gen2s

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Send an api command to HA

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If error response, turn off relay

glossy prism
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Unless they don't have a WiFi signal in the planned location(s)

obtuse tree
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hey all

unreal rock
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Hello everyone ! I'm in the US, looking to install a bunch of smart switches, either Zigbee or Z-Wave. I'm still not decided between both, but what are my options for either ? I can't seem to find many options on Amazon. Almost all of them are WiFi ones.

Home Depot/Lowes have the Enbrighten ones, which is the newer GE/Jasco ones, which are similarly priced, and then there's Lutron Caseta, which is well beyond my budget.

I'm looking for opinions and suggestions about protocol and brand. Anyone have any ?

obtuse tree
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quick question just install sonoff lan, and have a sonoff B02-BL I can do dimmer and tempreture in the ewelink app, but its shows only as a switch in Home Assistant?

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is this a bug in HA or is it a bug on the light

golden oyster
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I haven't yet used any of Inovelli's new Zigbee line so I can't speak to them, but their zwave are nice

cold moon
unreal rock
obtuse tree
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@unreal rock, do you want battery zigbee wall switches or wired, since I went zigbee 3.0 bulbs you just end up turning off the light.

I am moving to zigbee switches battery and using the simple zigbee switch 5euros until IO can move to philips hue switch over time.

cold moon
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sticking a battery remote on the wall is not a solution lol

obtuse tree
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it depends since EU the switches are all live(hot) wire switches

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most wall switches can be 30-40 euros

cold moon
unreal rock
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Yes, I didn't know about binding, but that would definitely work ! Thank you for letting me know about that !

cold moon
cold moon
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you are limited in which devices can bind to which with zigbee, and to a lesser extent zwave

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i.e. you cant bind a door/window sensor to a light bulb with zigbee to turn a closet on/off (so you need a hass automation) but zwave can do that

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other limitations make zwave less exciting though ;P

steel temple
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How can I do zigbee switches (hardwired) but also have smart bulbs to do circadian lighting?

cold moon
unreal rock
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I could honestly go with either z-protocol, but I'm leaning towards Zigbee since I may be buying a few Aqara sensors or may be some other sensors and would like to have a proper mesh for when those walk in.

Bonus points if the Ikea blinds can join the Zigbee network and expand their reach to the gateway.

steel temple
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i have one test setup, and sometimes the light doesn't change colors when it turns on, i assume since it's "booting up", so to speak, heh

steel temple
cold moon
steel temple
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i just have a random aliexpress 8 euro zigbee switch module, I don't think it has any settings

cold moon
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both protocols have their benefits but frankly i think i like my zigbee mesh better than my zwave mesh. both are sensitive to bad devices causing issues on the mesh but that's easy to figure out asking questions here or searching on reddit/forums

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i.e. zwave is a low bandwidth sub ghz protocol so chatty devices like smart plugs reporting energy can flood the mesh, and with zigbee some devices are known to "black hole routes" aka a device that should act as a repeater is instead just.. fucking up routes

steel temple
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the only issue i have is if home assistant reboots, the door/window sensors don't update their state until it opens or closes...so HA reboots, and all the doors/windows show "unavailable" until i go and open/close them to force them to update 😛

unreal rock
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The sensors themselves work well. I don't doubt that. But without an established mesh with proper routers and repeaters, they're all useless. I had about 20 open/close sensors, 4 aqara sensors, and a few other zigbee devices, all battery operated, and only 4 zigbee wall outlets. All of those sensors worked fine for a couple of weeks, but once there was a power outage, most of them never came back on the network.

steel temple
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ah, weird

unreal rock
cold moon
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most of us have zigbee bulbs/light switches/smart plugs that repeat and form a good mesh

steel temple
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i have like 15 sensors in a fairly large 4 bedroom apartment, no repeaters at all, afaik

unreal rock
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Yes, that mesh is what I'm looking to build.

steel temple
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maybe one ikea bulb that's more or less in the same area as the RPI w/ HA

unreal rock
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Apartment is easy. Single level. I've done that. Now I have 3 levels, diagonally spanning may be 200 feet

steel temple
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yea fair enough

cold moon
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well you can always adopt me and i can help set that up

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i've still got a few good years left in me

unreal rock
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Honestly, I did think of buying some of the Ikea Zigbee bulbs and sprinkling them throughout the house so there's a mesh available. But what happens when I turn off the switch ? Does that router/repeater go offline causing the mesh to reconfigure itself ?

obtuse tree
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question about sonoff B02-BL, anyone know why it shows up as a switch via SONOFF Lan ?

cold moon
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And also no

obtuse tree
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my SONOFF B05-B shows as light

cold moon
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Aqara battery devices are known to not find a new route once they get one, so if you had a bulb acting as a repeater for it then that goes down you’ll have issues

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In general routers shouldn’t just lose power

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With either zig or zwave

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Different devices have weird knacks

unreal rock
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So bulbs are just repeaters, and not as useful as I think they would be

cold moon
obtuse tree
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@cold moon thank you with that "devices are known to not find a new route once they get one, so if you had a bulb acting as a repeater for it then that goes down you’ll have issues"

you just solved a headache I couldnt wrap my head around with a sensor

cold moon
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Should be repeaters, some bulbs like sengled don’t even repeat

cold moon
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Hue motion sensors don’t have that issue

unreal rock
cold moon
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Well the spec calls for them to repeat I think

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But zigbee is a lot more lax compared to zwave

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With zwave there’s the zwave alliance which is supposed to force manufacturers to stick to the spec to certify and be able to sell them

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But because of that it costs a company a lot of money to pay zwave alliance and join their cool kids club

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So we have like no options for zwave rgbw bulbs lol

unreal rock
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So far, considering everything, I'm better off investing in Zigbee for the lower cost, and building out the network for future sensors, and slightly better stability compared to Z-Wave. Any other pros for Zigbee ?

cold moon
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Future thread and matter support

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Higher bandwidth for more traffic

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With that being said, you need a zigbee coordinator to actually control the devices

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I use and recommend the sonoff p series usb dongle

unreal rock
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As in, a hub ?

cold moon
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If your pi or server isn’t centrally located or you just want to, you can buy a PoE coordinator and put it wherever

cold moon
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But it’s called a coordinator in Zigbee2mqtt and zha

unreal rock
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I have a Hue, a Smartthings, and a USB stick on my HA system. I think I'm covered for the coordinators..

cold moon
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Eww

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Ya you’d actually remove all those

unreal rock
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At some point, yes.

obtuse tree
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I recently swapped my family PC for a think center mini very low power usage and have vmware running haos

cold moon
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Hue bulbs are zigbee

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Smart things hub has both zigbee and zwave I think

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Idk what you mean by usb stick tho

obtuse tree
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do not use virtualbox, the usb zigbee doesnt like power outage or restarts

cold moon
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You’ve got at a minimum two zigbee meshes

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Which isn’t smart

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No tech guy is gonna suggest virtualbox

obtuse tree
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hey I am learning as we go 🙂

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I didnt know anything about smart homes home assistant 2-3 months ago

cold moon
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You talked about wanting a zigbee mesh above. To make a good mesh you pair everything to one coordinator and you plan out the zigbee channel for that coordinator

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I.e. channel 25 zigbee and your 2.4ghz Wi-Fi access points would be on 1,6 and 11 would be closest to interfere with zigbee 25 so that would be farthest from the coordinator in a perfect world

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Hope that all makes sense

unreal rock
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It does. I need to do some wifi channel mapping and set the Zigbee channel after that.

cold moon
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That’s shit btw

unreal rock
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I needed to get my landscape lights running quickly, that's why the Hue bridge exists.

cold moon
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Much better to get the sonoff p I mentioned above for zigbee. If you need a zwave one too get the zooz or aeotec 700 series.

unreal rock
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The SmartThings hub is a remnant of the past, I just powered it on, the reasoning is that if HA goes down and I cannot get to it in time, there should be a backup/app that can still control stuff.

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What makes the one I have not so good ?

cold moon
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That doesn’t make sense to me

cold moon
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Also due to usb port interference it’s highly recommended to put a zigbee and zwave usb stick on a usb extender, ideally a usb2.0 one or 3.x in a 2.0 port to minimize interference

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Apparently the usb specs just let them suck and spit out a bunch of noise that fucks with radios

unreal rock
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That is good to know, thank you for that !

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Under what circumstances do you steer people away from Zigbee ?

cold moon
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I don’t. I still like my zwave stuff but I feel limited with what I can add and that I basically can’t use my mesh for fear of it breaking (like with chatty devices)

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A lot of people move into a house with builder grade zwave stuff like switches all throughout so it’s easier for them to just buy a dongle and add existing devices

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Zwave is suggested as a good protocol in part by sub ghz band so in theory better at going through walls and not part of 2.4ghz like Wi-Fi,zigbee,thread,matter but in reality they still have shit range and a good mesh needs repeaters pretty close together

unreal rock
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What's your opinion about using the Hue as a coordinator so I can give the wife a pretty app to control stuff ? HA would read stuff off of Hue bridge and then do it's automations..

cold moon
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I don’t like the hue app or their hub

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Their hub can’t handle more than 40-50 devices before it starts having multi second lag for turning things on off etc

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Their app with 40+ devices started lagging on my phone as well

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If you want a pretty app to control stuff make her a nice dashboard on home assistant app and set that as her default dashboard

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You can remake the same scenes hue app has on your own

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Although I find them mostly silly.. you just make a few color temp ones you like

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Further, if she’s an iOS user I find HomeKit and the home app pretty nice looking for controlling devices including making scenes

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More than one way to do it

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And to add to that, you want your hue bulbs as repeaters for your zigbee mesh. If they’re paired to hue hub they aren’t part of your mesh you’re making with aqara ikea etc devices all from home assistant using zha or z2m drivers with a coordinator

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Still adoptable btw

unreal rock
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You make a compelling point. At some point, I want to get rid of the hubs and control everything with HA, but one, that needs time which I don't have much of right now, and two, I need to figure out a good way to make sure HA doesn't fail or go down. What are my options for high availability for HA ?

cold moon
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There isn’t any that I know of

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I mean if you have a cluster on proxmox or something that can handle a node dying then hass will stay up but the usb dongle wouldn’t

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You could use a PoE coordinator though

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That’s still a single point of failure

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@marsh lichen is there a way to have a backup zigbee coordinator?

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Not running hass on a pi would be a good start tho

unreal rock
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That's one kind of failure. The other kind is where I decide to upgrade HA to the latest version that breaks something and I find out something is broken right when I'm on a work call.

marsh lichen
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both z2m and zha have automated backups that can be restored to a new coordinator.

unreal rock
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My HA runs on a fully dedicated system, a HP T620. I've been bitten by a dead SD Card, so I moved it to it's own hardware

cold moon
unreal rock
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Lol, feels like I'm at work even when I'm off work.. 😆

marsh lichen
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live failover - not without a lot of effort. there are incrementing frame counters in the backups, so they need to be accounted for if doing any kind of automated failover

cold moon
glossy prism
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Not necessary

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With z2m at least, you can just stop z2m, plug in the new coordinator (and change the path for the device passthrough if applicable), start it up, and it will migrate to the new coordinator

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Not sure how ZHA handles that, but I assume it's similar

unreal rock
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So, ZooZ is Z-Wave only, and OOS on Amazon, Inovelli has Blues that are Zigbee, but are currently back-ordered, they say they'll ship in Dec, but there's no guarantee of the delivery date. I'd love to get the blues for $50 a piece, but I cannot wait that long to get them.

That brings me back to the Enbrighten Zigbee switches and dimmers. Any opinions on the GE/Jasco/Enbrighten brand of switches ?

cold moon
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And their own web store on Amazon which I guess is out

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The inovelli blue are the only zigbee switches I like and they’re new and currently have issues as seen on the forums and here

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Fixable with an update eventually if not already out

cold moon
glossy prism
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Automate mirroring the z2m config/backup on the other machine and use some trigger to determine the other machine isn't functioning properly and start up z2m on the secondary machine?

cold moon
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That would be cool

glossy prism
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Tbh it's probably not worth the effort for something that happens very rarely (at least in my experience)

cold moon
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Yea but it’s fun to think about

unreal rock
cold moon
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Yep

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But didn’t you want zigbee?

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Choosing a mesh protocol and hardware shouldn’t be decided by what’s in stock

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You’re-gonna-have-a-bad-time.jpg

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Wipnose spit it out already lol

glossy prism
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📜

unreal rock
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I agree. I wasn't going to purchase them, just surprised at the facts. I'm still trying to figure out if GE/Jasco/Enbrighten Zigbee is my only option, and reading reviews for them.

cold moon
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Ge jasco etc we’re not suggested until recently

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I still don’t like them based on high failure rates alone

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Unless I’m misremembering

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I have like 16 zooz light switches and like them very much fwiw

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But I also planned out my zwave mesh properly and don’t have chatty devices on the mesh

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But I also have all hue bulbs so the switches are in smart bulb mode and home assistant handles the light switch button presses so if hass is down shit don’t work. This isn’t an acceptable option for some folks

unreal rock
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I had 16 of the GE/Jasco z-wave dimmers in my old house that worked for the most part, but they kept dropping off the network at random times, and that's not something that a switch that should act like a repeater should do. And in the 4 years I had them, one completely failed and I had to replace it.

cold moon
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Agreed

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But you could easily have the same issue with zooz. The mesh dictates how stable the devices are

unreal rock
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If I have at least 5 switches per floor, reasonably equally spaced out, at 1100 sqft per floor, there should be no reason a mesh isn't properly built or balanced. But that's my assumption based on how they work in theory.

cold moon
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I’ve seen 10 meters apart quotes before. Real world I don’t think there’s a number

unreal rock
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Fair enough, but there's got to be some reasonable and widely accepted range for the switches that we use as a baseline to build upon, right ?

cold moon
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You would think

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Lol

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Reading logs after including seems to be the best way that I’ve seen

unreal rock
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Alright. I'm going back to WiFi.

/s

frail pulsar
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Today my IR sensor is no longer working. Previous the serial-port-name '/dev/serial/by-id/usb-FTDI_FT230X_Basic_UART_D307PBVY-if00-port0' worked in the past but today no more. Could anyone give me hint where or how to find the serial port to which my current IR detector is connected to. (Yes, I've checked the connectors). The serial-port-name is needed as input into an Integration. Did already tried Setting-System-Hardware-and-the-three-dots to only note USB drivers, and could not destill more relevant data. Maybe I overlook something (as I'm not an ITexpert)? Did als insert usb: extra in the config. Rebooted several times. Alternatively tried to disconnect and connect the USB plug and to note a change in a log (but there are many logs in HA and which one should I specially look for (core?). Did with SSH als lsusb and got an answer for three USBs with the vendor codes, but that seems most likely the ID's for the USB port itself. Would appreciate if anyone could point me to the proper method for the current Operating System (i.e. 9.3 in Nov2022) for how to find the serial-port-name for the USB connected IR sensor. Thanks.

glossy wigeon
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Anybody know of any methods to detect fire alarm sounds?
I'm in an apartment building where its not possible to have anything physically hooked into the smoke alarms but would love to have a method for HA to know when the fire alarm is going off. I'm thinking pretty much a mic that detects loud noises within a certain frequency range
Just want to know if its been done before or there's a product that does it. Thanks :)

cold moon
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Or multiple.. you can take them with you when you move

glossy wigeon
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I'm more interested in when the whole building alarm goes off than detecting actual smoke. It's a tiny studio apartment - the point at which my own smoke alarms are going off then I'm already on fire

cold moon
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I see. I’m not aware of a product like that so I’d look into diy with esphome

glossy wigeon
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alright, thanks

glossy prism
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I don't know if the standard smoke alarm sound in the US is the same in other countries, but there are smoke alarm listener devices (I've seen both Zigbee and zwave) that listen for the standard US smoke alarm tones @glossy wigeon

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Whether you're in the US or not though, it'd be worth it for you to Google smoke alarm listener

cold moon
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Interesting

glossy wigeon
unreal rock
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@cold moon , what was the Sonoff USB coordinator that you recommended ? I cannot find the link in today's messages

cold moon
lime ocean
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Hi all,
I'd like to setup some running led in one of my rooms controlled through HA... Any recommendations for the best LED strip that support running effect ?

dull portal
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Hi, I have few ZigBee buttons in home. Almost every button need to be click once before it works. They need to be wake up? I have one that don't need that. It's IKEA Styrbar button. It works always after first click.

winged knoll
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Hi all

cold moon
unreal rock
cold moon
unreal rock
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Damn. I was looking for where the PM section is, since you told me about the message. Where do I find my PMs ?

cold moon
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What client lol

unreal rock
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Web

cold moon
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in the top left i see a discord icon and if i hover over it says direct messages

gloomy spoke
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you could just create a thread...

cold moon
plush smelt
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Hey guys, not sure if this is the right section but I'm very new to HA and we're looking at making lights smart and I just want to make sure I've got the right info before getting lights organised

I've got a question about Shelly relays and wanted to get some info from people who have them hopefully

They're obviously WiFi based, but I was watching a video of someone setting theirs up and turning off the cloud part of the relay and connecting it to their ha without cloud, which is good

My question though is if you do that, since they're WiFi does that mean if the internet is down they can't be controlled by ha? Or will it still work as long as the router is up and running?

gentle mauve
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It's been a moment since I've done any audio processing with HA, but detecting when sounds are above a certain frequency, holding a safe buffer above and below it for XYZ seconds, and also criteria of regular interval between them.

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That's probably what I would attempt first if I was trying to implement this. Those Arduino ultrasonic sensors don't need to emit sound to receive and quantize it

gentle mauve
plush smelt
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, but I just wanted to make sure before going with it 😛

gentle mauve
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I use yeelite lights. I am weary about the phoning home, but I'm shortly about to cut the app out, and vlan/iptables them to only be controlled by HA, with ha being the only moving part not sequestered to my internal network

plush smelt
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That sounds like a good idea

gentle mauve
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Openwrt && vlan settings == a good way to get the best of both worlds using HA and fun/novel devices that reverse tunnel to China for zero functional reason lol

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I'm working on integrating this box of IoT webcam into zoneminder and the last one I was hacking on was literally just heartbeat timer to 3 different Chinese locations. Zero racial bias, I don't even understand the need for an American company to require that... A p2p encrypted AWS for cloud stuff, maybe, esp if they don't hold the keys.

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So thankful for HA

plush smelt
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That all sounds way above my level of knowledge at the moment 😛

cold moon
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If a tv is too old for hdmi cec is the next best option to use an ir blaster in front of tv to turn it on and off? If so, what specific hardware would you suggest?

gentle mauve
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Flipper zero 😂

gentle fossil
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I'd say testing if the device can auto turn on on power delivery and just cut the power for off, given its old its likely not a oled and doesnt care

cold moon
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Can I diy one with an esp or something?

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We’re talking bought in 2005 1080i

gentle mauve
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Seems plausible

cold moon
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Probably a power hog

gentle mauve
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Arduino nano would do it. Just pushing some voltage through an ir led shouldn't draw much

cold moon
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Is that all ir is doing? I never thought of it like that lol

glossy wigeon
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you'll have to figure out the frequency/sequence the ir led blinks at for whatever you want it to do - if I remember right each button on a remote has a different "code"

gentle mauve
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Got a brand and model?

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I might be able to find them

glossy wigeon
gentle mauve
glossy wigeon
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ah wow thats a handy database, I really should pick up a flipper at some point

gentle mauve
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I waited like 3 long years drooling over the production teasers lol

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There's about 5 or 6 unique repos for the ir files, the sub gz recordings, etc

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Way more than can even fit on the thing all at once

cold moon
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I watched David Bombals video on the flipper pretty cool

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The tv is a Polaroid FLM-323B

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It really should be sent to the big tv bin in the sky but I hate throwing away something that works

gentle mauve
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Seeing quite a few posts about Mitsubishi codes on "universal remote controls" being v useful

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I think I still have my old galaxy S5, loved it bc of the ir blaster lots of brands use the same IP or hardware without investing anything on hardening it or making it unique

cold moon
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No google hardware or android for me

gentle mauve
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Crappy universal remotes have been seen at dollar stores too lol

cold moon
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Yea

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I’ve got an old one for it actually

gentle mauve
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I wonder if the rgb led on this would work US $4.90 29%OFF | Seeeduino XIAO RP2040 Raspberry Pi RP2040 Chip Development Board Module For Arduino/MicroPython/CircuitPython
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mri5VXQ

cold moon
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I have a pi pico I never played with

gentle mauve
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Oh here's a nice little pairing...~$7 after shipping and can integrate into HA pretty easily. Button to press, or wireless for that connectivity..

US $1.40 | IR Controller Shield V1.0.0 for LOLIN D1 mini Infrared sensors 4x 940nm emitter 1x 38kHz receiver
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mr2HZIk

US $2.01 21%OFF | ESP32 S2 Mini V1.0.0 - LOLIN WIFI IOT Board based ESP32-S2FN4R2 ESP32-S2 4MB FLASH 2MB PSRAM MicroPython Arduino Compatible
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqIzWgM

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If you're so inclined could swap the smd led on any of these with an ir one

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Iirc Pico's have LEDs on em

cold moon
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Thanks man I can do some googling with that

naive thistle
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Anyone have any success with ZigBee door sensors and small gun safes?

hearty magnet
jagged crypt
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whoever was looking at detecting fire alarm, if it's a building alarm, would it be easier to detect the flashing light with something on the alarm in your unit?

harsh scaffold
thin latch
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is there any reason to use bluetooth low energy over zigbee?

winged knoll
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Depends on what you're using it for

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The BLE plant sensors for instance are really rather good

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BLE bulbs...

thin latch
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looking at some led lights

winged knoll
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Zigbee then

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Unless you're going to be cutting power to them, in which case either buy Sengled Zigbee bulbs, or something non-Zigbee

thin latch
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any recommendation for a ceiling light?

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I might use a smart switch along with the lights

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so that I can still control them even if the HA server is down

winged knoll
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Well, you're better off with a dumb bulb and a smart light switch/dimmer

outer knotBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
thin latch
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do such thing exists for a low budget?

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wait, then the color temperature won't be adjustable

harsh scaffold
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Get two bulbs lmao

thin latch
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what about color temperature adjustment?

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currently we have 2 of the 1500lm ceiling lights already, one broke thus looking for a smart conversion

harsh scaffold
snow plaza
#

I am looking to add my Xiaomi Dreame f9 to my HA, but it seems to be quite difficult, does anybody have experience with this model?

thin latch
thin latch
# outer knot

UK(anything 220 volts works I guess), under 80GBP or 90USD, zigbee

  • power monitoring(optional, good to have)
  • dimming
  • adjustable color temperature
winged knoll
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At last... you told us the country you're in

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If you want a smart bulb you can't cut the power to it, if you're happy with a dumb bulb you can dim with a smart dimmer you can

thin latch
winged knoll
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Not without some app/other magic (like Zigbee bindings)

thin latch
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I don't know what the terms for this type of light is

winged knoll
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Ah, a fixed unit you have to throw away when any part of it fails...

thin latch
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those are most likely going to be brighter, is this correct?

winged knoll
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Maybe

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I have a couple of old 1400 lumen LED bulbs, they can't be dimmed, but they're about 8 to 10 years old

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Buying a couple (or three) dimmable 500 lumen bulbs should be trivial

thin latch
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then color temperature can't be adjusted.
maybe:

  • use a switch/button/knob that triggers home assistant only
  • home assistant turns on/off/dim a smart light
  • when server is not available, use a hidden hard wired switch
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does this sounds like a good plan?

winged knoll
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If that works for you, sure

thin latch
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do you see any flaws if I go with that plan?

winged knoll
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Of course, if those are Zigbee cutting the power screws over the mesh, and your end devices may stop working

thin latch
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well, if I am cutting the power to the smart light, then the HA is not available anyways

winged knoll
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Zigbee2MQTT FTW 😛

thin latch
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hard wire switch is only for when HA is not available

#

I would want ZHA if possible, since it is native to home assistant

#

do you know any smart light that

  • uses zigbee
  • has ZHA support(I don't mind adding support on my own, if that is possible)
  • is dimmable
  • can adjustable color temperature
winged knoll
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Tradfri

thin latch
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light bulb?

winged knoll
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Yes

latent pollen
winged knoll
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I have a few of their older bulbs - cheap and work well

thin latch
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any dimmer input that can be hard wired?

latent pollen
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Agreed. I have an assortment of tradfri and phillips hue, and the only ones that have issues like blinking at low dim values are the hue bulbs.
Ikea one are stable

winged knoll
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You can't hard wire dimmer inputs for smart bulbs

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Smart bulbs need the normal power input 100% of the time, or you kill the electronics

thin latch
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I mean, a dimmer input to home assistant so HA dims the light

winged knoll
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If you connect a dimmer to a smart bulb expect a dead bulb

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Sure, that's called automations

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Buy your chosen "dimmer" remote

thin latch
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I would prefer it gets power from mains, so I don't have to replace the battery

winged knoll
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You'll probably only have to change that every couple of years

thin latch
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don't need it to look like an actual dimmer but I would prefer a wall electrical box mounted one

winged knoll
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Then you can do that - though you may need a dummy load (and the associated cost with powering it)

thin latch
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For some reason, I don't see many "remote" that has all

  • on/off
  • color temperature
  • dimming
    Available, does that not exist or? I see one but I don't see anywhere selling it (ADEO HR-C99C-Z-C045)
winged knoll
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Any remote that has 4 or more buttons could do that

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Push for on/off
Hold buttons a/b for warm/cool
Hold buttons c/d for bright/dim

thin latch
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So I can just do it in home assistant instead of looking for one that has the specific button?

winged knoll
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If you're wanting a "smart" dimmer to control a smart bulb it's either that or something like Tasmota

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You may find a #zigbee-archived device that can directly control another Zigbee light, but they're likely to be rare

hearty zinc
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Hey guys. I just put up a video on YouTube showing of my 43' wall mounted touchscreen setup with HA. Just starting out making videos, but hoping it will give everyone some ideas! https://youtu.be/yy_GBQ5dhKw

harsh scaffold
cold moon
unreal oak
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hey anyone own a switchbot bot? I am curious if the button presses can be toggles instead of just momentary

runic lodge
unreal oak
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wow, thanks a bunch!

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that's very cool

west kelp
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hi There!
I am wondering if it is possible to log raw vibration, m/s2, with some of the vibration sensors. We are going to have construction right outside our window, but by law they have to stay below 5m/s2 and I would like to keep taps on that 🙂

tacit burrow
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Do you have any cameras? You may be able to use the mic on those (if they have them). And use ffmpeg sensor maybe

cold moon
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no it doesnt

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it takes existing wiring and tags on to it

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modifying the alarm would be retarded

#

this was suggested the other day

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"smoke alarm listeners"

gentle fossil
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ios devices can detect audible alarm signals but majestic apple decided to not allow to automate on that except the device itself with accesibility functions for now. what a waste

cold moon
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you could tie that into an automation/script passed through to homekit and then on the phone create an automation that when the alarm sound on ios trigger is done, trigger the script/automation given via homekit

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but it's a hacky shit solution

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didnt know the idevices did that

gentle fossil
cold moon
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wouldnt you be able to use shortcuts to create a trigger or something for an automation inside home app?

gentle fossil
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not that I know of. please someone correct me on that

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and then also tell me how to make it run on homepods 😄

cold moon
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not finding anything on goog

steep monolith
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I have 3 physical light switches in my condo that I'd like to be able to control using home assistant for automation

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They don't have neutral wires

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Any suggestion on a devices that can kind of go overtop the light switch to toggle them?

gentle fossil
steep monolith
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Does it need a hub?

gloomy elbow
cold moon
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what do you mean an exclusive or

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like hey siri must be enabled?

gloomy elbow
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It can listen for a smoke alarm or for hey siri, but not both

cold moon
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Ooh

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Not ideal but since I got a couple HomePods hey siri doesn’t even trigger on my phone much

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Even if HomePod mini is two rooms away

gloomy elbow
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It's a per device setting, and only available on iPhone and iPad

cold moon
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Right I’m saying either or isn’t a killer on a phone due to HomePods existence

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Even less of an issue for an always at home iPad imo

gloomy elbow
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I got that, I'm just making sure you know it's not something a HomePod could do, and it's something you can do on an iPad as it's less likely you'll want that to respond to Hey Siri

cold moon
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Agreed

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Depends on your preferred mesh

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For zigbee their hue motion temp lux are the best

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Low retrigger for motion, accurate, battery lasts years

gloomy elbow
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I personally prefer to split the sensors up. The places which are ideal for motion sensors tend to be the colder spots in the rooms in my experience

cold moon
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No one buys the hue for the temp or lux it’s just nice to have

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I think hvac would be different in every house as far as layout and dead air zones

gloomy elbow
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HVAC is a nice theoretical, but not something I have 😉

cold moon
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Rip

gloomy elbow
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Nah, I have nice ceramic heaters, and the next place will be an air or ground source heat pump and underfloor heating.

cold moon
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Fancy

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My hvac heat is broken and too old to justify fixing. I’m in Texas tho and currently 80 degrees in November

jagged crypt
languid void
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Hey all, Can anyone recommend a good zigbee garage door open/close sensor? I currently use an old Smartthings multi contact thing that also has xyz accels but it goes through batteries like crazy. Something hardwired would be ideal.

keen flame
keen flame
#

What should I start looking into if I want to buy speakers to be receivers for Home Assistant / Music Assistant?

boreal tendon
mossy abyss
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Its 2022 and its usable already 🙂

plush smelt
#

hey guys, i've not touched any hardware but was curious if anyone knows of some good accel that can work with home assistant? basically something that i can move in 3d space and have it's relative position sent through to HA? or is that not really a thing?

winged knoll
sharp swan
#

Cannot get 2 of my Sonoff Basics that are flashed with Tasmota visible in Home Assistant. I have 5 similar devices, 3 work just fine. The 2 I recently flashed with Tasmota 12.x simply will not be recognized. SetOption19 On simply does... nothing. The 2 devices work fine assessing them over their Ip address... Is the 12.x firmware no longer supporting HA ???

glossy prism
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so19 1 has been deprecated for a long time

sharp swan
jagged crypt
fathom bane
#

People who have wall mounted tablets to display a frontend dashboard ... do you use the tablets speakers? is it worth customizing the mount (mbmounts) to expose the speakers? Using a fireHD 10 11th gen

keen flame
jagged crypt
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it looks complex, but it's quite nice. I have a couple pi's with 7" touch screens and dac-hats plugged into bookshelf speakers for audio with it

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can control like sonos system (though this redates sonos by 10-15 years)

keen flame
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I only have a Pi Zero W at the moment.

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It's tough to get hardware that isn't manufactured in North America where I live.

jagged crypt
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i have twp pi-zero also as an audio end points

keen flame
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How does that work?

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HDMI audio extracter?

jagged crypt
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DAC hat on the pi-zero's, hold on

cold moon
jagged crypt
keen flame
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Note that for the Raspberry PI zero, you need to solder a 40-pin male header to the board.

jagged crypt
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@cold moon need a few more options. I can link multiple endpoints to create a single "destination" and play and it computes out latency to try to sync

cold moon
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try to sync or syncs tho?

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if there's noticeable delay then that's not great

jagged crypt
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luth, I bought solderless headers that you "hammer" in

keen flame
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Oh dear, haha

jagged crypt
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hmoney, i run stereo speakers, when i run multi-room sync it seems to work fine, doesn't sound out of sync

cold moon
#

soldering gpio pins on isnt a big deal

keen flame
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I've never soldered anything.

cold moon
#

feel free to use the reply feature on me, i dont have an aversion to discord's built in features like a handful of people here do (they're the exception not the rule)

jagged crypt
keen flame
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I'll see if I can find that in Meixco

cold moon
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just watch a video on soldering the hammer things arent really an ideal solution but they do "work'

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soldering is simple to learn and opens up new project opportunities

jagged crypt
keen flame
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Practicing with my only rPi sounds daunting

cold moon
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even $10 china irons work fine

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then practice on something else

keen flame
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Hm, I found 40 pins but not 20. I suppose I can cut it in half though, yeah?

jagged crypt
#

LMS Server broadcasts music to "Squeezeboxes", which can be hardware or software. You use a different client (or a web interface) to the LMS to control how the music is broadcast.

keen flame
jagged crypt
#

you get five in that bag, so yep 🙂

keen flame
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ok. One piece solved.

jagged crypt
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i do think you can do hdmi audio out, but i know that people have problems with it (i think the config is more complex)

keen flame
#

Now to find a dac hat...

jagged crypt
keen flame
jagged crypt
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before tackling hardware, I would proof out the software install.

keen flame
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I found a Hifiberry dac hat for usd$50 😕

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Kinda makes the HDMI option look a lot nicer.

jagged crypt
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yeah, that's going to be the full-size one, not the dac-zero

keen flame
jagged crypt
#

ouch

keen flame
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If it's not manufactured in North America, it's really hard to find / expensive.

jagged crypt
#

are you in mexico city?

keen flame
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No, Queretaro. A few hours outside CDMX.

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Take a mexican vacation and bring me some audio hardware? 🙂

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Actually I'd like some networking hardware too. Ubiquiti doesn't resupply Mexico often.

jagged crypt
#

i think I drove through Santiago de Queretaro. Drove from Baja (la paz ferry to mazatlan) to Cancun over 3 months. Was in San Miguel de Allende, and drove to DF

keen flame
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Then almost certainly you did.

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I wouldn't recommend it now though. Guanajuato is pretty bad lately.

jagged crypt
#

I loved guanajuato in 2015 (when i was there), it was a random stop that we stayed at for a week

keen flame
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I have not been to GTO in some years.

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The state got very dangerous with the pandemic.

jagged crypt
#

anyways, back to your dac, for the zero, there's a single chipset that you can use, so you may be able to find alternatives easily

keen flame
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Gangs are attacking the highways at night and towns like Celaya are very dangerous now.

jagged crypt
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but at $50 vs $10 USD the HDMI extract may make more sense

keen flame
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Yeah, it seems more efficient if it will work.

jagged crypt
#

usb dac's are also an option

keen flame
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would that be better? I also do not yet have a speaker so I don't know what I'm connecting to.

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I want a Symfonik (?) from Ikea but they do not sell them in Mexico.

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so that's why I'm messing with this pi0w

jagged crypt
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get the software working first

keen flame
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maybe I have an old usb speaker somewhere. I should look.

jagged crypt
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looks like the hdmi stuff may be more solid, my searching on the picoreplayer forums looks like more recent issues are more "my case didn't let me plug the hdmi cable all the way in"

keen flame
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That's good to know.

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I found a usb speaker/mic. I need to find a usb-micro to micro cable now 😅

jagged crypt
#

I managed to set this all up when PI's were "reasonably" priced, so my pi3b+dac+touchscreen+smartipi case was ~$150 usd

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and the zero setups were <$50usd. I think the hifiberry dac was <$20, and i got a hifiberry zero case for $5

keen flame
#

No cable. 😦 USB to 3.5mm out though. I don't think that's helpful though.

jagged crypt
#

see if you can can LMS talking to the squeezeliteX client and playing on your PC (if you ware running windows)

keen flame
#

Try that instead of the pi0w first?

jagged crypt
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yeah, it's all software, no purchases requried

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if that works, then you can add the pizero easily

keen flame
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I was hoping to use the new Music Assistant for Home Assistant. I guess if I run the client on my PC then I can still test that.

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I guess i have no choice. I don't see micro to micro cables for sale 😅

jagged crypt
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I haven't played with music assistant yet, but HomeAssistant interfaces into LMS

keen flame
#

I watched the "Lets get lloud" video yesterday and it looked nice

jagged crypt
#

I have tradfri 5 button remotes controlling tracks and volume already, fighting with getting a playlist to load properly

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vs just sending it urls to play

keen flame
#

I also need to setup a NAS for media

hearty zinc
#

Music Assistant is pretty cool. Use it with DLNA streaming to a wifi speaker from inside HA

jagged crypt
keen flame
jagged crypt
#

good luck

regal stratus
#

hey guys, I'm having some issues with my new energy plugs. Installed tasmota on them, added them to my energy dashboard, and now 2 of 4 plugs are showing me wrong stas. one of the plugs is showing -11 kWh which isn't normal. is there any help to reset this?

keen flame
jagged crypt
#

@keen flame HA talks to LogitechMediaServer (installed on pi, nas, etc). LogitechMediaServer sends audio to squeezebox clients (squeezebotliteX on windows, picoreplayer on pi)

main garnet
#

What is the best os to run on my rpi4 to be able to run my ha dashboard on it? I'm now running an android version on my pi , but it's still not fast enough. So i'm searching for a solution to make it as fast as possible and also stable.

glad dust
#

4 out of 5 of our TP-Link Kasa HS100/HS110s have just dropped off the face of the earth in the last day or two

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They show in Unifi as connected, but I can't ping them...

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Anyone else had that happen?

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One of them is still talking. Can't even see them in the app right now (which oh so helpfully regularly loses its list of devices)

glossy prism
main garnet
glossy prism
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oh i see what you're asking

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no clue then. i suppose Raspberry Pi OS is still the answer, but i haven't used touchscreens on a Pi

jagged crypt
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at the prices for PI's, you could sell the pi and buy an android tablet 🙂

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trend on reddit seems to be buying fire-tablet-10's on discount, and putting kiosk-fullscreen on them. I find it makes more sense to add motion sensors then have to open a dashboard to turn off the lights, etc. Dashboard looks cooler, but motion sensors are way more efficient and functional.

gloomy elbow
keen flame
jagged crypt
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ok, to play with music assistant you need a supported media player

keen flame
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Just installed squeezeliteX. We'll see if that's supporte... oh, well look at you

jagged crypt
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so you could NOT install LMS, and instead install a squeezeliteX player on your machine, and install the slimproto integration

keen flame
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Okay. I've not installed LMS. I've installed SqueezeliteX on my PC, though it says "Can't connect ot LMS Telnet on port=9090". I've installed the slimproto integration.

jagged crypt
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slimproto needs to find squeezeliteX, not sure how to do that off hand

keen flame
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Reading the docs.

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not much help there.

jagged crypt
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looks like it tries to emulate a LMS server

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so point squeezeliteX to the HA instance now

keen flame
#

SlimProto Player does?

jagged crypt
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and/or port 9090

keen flame
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Squeezelite-X doesn't allow me to change the port, it seems. It's stuck on 9090.

#

bizarre app....

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Well that's weird. I installed Music Assistant and now I can't find it.

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I'll just reinstall it then.

#

When using Spotify or Youtube Music as a music source please note that only Premium accounts are supported, free accounts will not work. Oh well that's lousy.

keen flame
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Okay, I installed LMS on HA and was able to connect to it with Squeezelite-X. 🙂 Poco a poco.

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How to get the PC running Squeezelite recognized by HA, though, as an entity, I have no idea.

jagged crypt
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go ahead and try adding the "logitech -> squeezebox" integration

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i don't think that's what you want

keen flame
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I need to get the PC recognized as an entity. Installing LMS didn't do that, unfortunately.

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I'll uninstall it and try the SlimProto again I guess

jagged crypt
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i was able to add port 9091 to squeezelite-x

keen flame
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I can't post photos here. Under Logitech Media Server > Host > ...

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It has fields for User Name, Password, and then the port.

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The port in mine is green, 9090, and has a checkbox next to it. I can't edit it.

jagged crypt
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then it's already connected to a host of some sort then

keen flame
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I hit apply and it says "Can't connect to LMS Telnet on port=9090"

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So maybe SlimProto Player needs a username/password?

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There's no documentation about it and no configuration options either.

jagged crypt
#

does the "host" line in squeezelitex have anything?

keen flame
#

Mind if I PM you so I can send images?

jagged crypt
#

go ahead

keen flame
#

Will the HA Sonos integration work even on older, discontinued Sonos devices (like the Play 1)?

empty wing
#

Hello. I saw a deal on this mini PC and thought it could be used to load HA onto. What do you think?

https://a.co/d/683ssk7

cold moon
tired wedge
#

Does Home Assistant take advantage of quicksync?

empty wing
cold moon
#

Certain addons can benefit from a more powerful cpu / certain cpu features

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Like frigate or nginx with multiple camera streams

tired wedge
#

Oh with that coupon that's pretty cool.

cold moon
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Yea for 50 off that’s not bad

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Celeron is just a dirty word in my head and it’s ddr3 but still a shitload better than a pi

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It comes with an ssd too

empty wing
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Yeah I got tired of trying to find pi kit.. so I thought mini PC would work

cold moon
#

All in all not a bad buy I guess

cold moon
empty wing
#

I'm not married to this yet 😄

cold moon
#

Thin client if trying to save money, used laptop if you have one or can get cheap, or nuc like what you’ve settled on

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VM on a server works great too. I’m a fan of haos over managing it yourself with docker and especially the ability to use addons and restore/backup in haos

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Used laptop is nice cuz it has a battery for power backup but a UPS is a good idea anyways (for network for example). Plus with used laptop it can have a broken screen and still be used

tired wedge
#

Do you install haos on the bare metal or run it in something like Proxmox?

cold moon
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I moved from a pi to a used laptop myself lol.. lady gave it to me cuz screen was broken and $200 for just the new screen

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Bare metal

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I already have a hypervisor and nas with unraid

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I just wanted hass separate so if my server is down I still have internet and smart home

empty wing
cold moon
#

Nuc is a tiny pc like what you linked above with an intel cpu

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Haos is home assistant operating system which is what you probably have on a pi now

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i just made a youtube video on this (my first video) a week or so ago if you want to check it out. it's basically just 43 min of me talking about different install methods and explaining some basics

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lol

empty wing
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Yes sure!

cold moon
#

it's linked in my about me if you just click my name here

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have you not setup and played with home assistant at all yet?

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you're in for a treat dude

empty wing
#

Thanks. I will give it a look

empty wing
cold moon
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ah cool

#

lots to learn but dont focus on what you dont know

empty wing
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I just got Gigabyte internet. Looking at bringing online some smart switches and some contact servers

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Contact sensors

cold moon
#

yeah man you really can save yourself some frustration learning what you want to do then researching best things to buy that fit those goals

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buying random shit then trying to integrate it technically works but it's not ideal

empty wing
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Haha. But that is my entire way of life! Jk. I'm still learning.

cold moon
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i've been making a trello board that i'm adding things to as i think of them to redo my home assistant automations and just generally add features that i think would be nice

empty wing
#

Gotcha. Im also not sure I want to buy anything with Matter now making many smart devices easier to use. I still think HA will add to the possibility of automations that are possible. Just been hesitant to pull the trigger on my next move

cold moon
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nah

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matter doesnt mean shit for us and the devices are still either non existent or just now coming out

keen flame
#

Things will always be better in 3 years.

cold moon
#

you prob watched some clickbait youtuber that said "MATTER IS GONNA CHANGE EVERYTHING ZOMG"

empty wing
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...I did... Lol

jagged crypt
empty wing
jagged crypt
#

depends on price, 10watts, made for business robustness....

empty wing
#

Not doubting that. These were similar specs to my previous rig

jagged crypt
#

i picked up a thinkcentre m900tiny unit, put another 8 gigs into for $20, have a 16gig i5-6500t running proxmox with HA, and moving some other utilities over another vm on it. You could run stuff natively on 8gigs easily, proxmox was just easier for me (I run proxmox for some work-related loads so quite familiar with it).

tacit burrow
#

@jagged crypt do you have just the one nic on it? I'm having crashy problems with my usb-eth

jagged crypt
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just one nic, no wireless

tacit burrow
jagged crypt
#

someone reporting success with RTL8156 based adapter

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~$30 USD on amazon

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"pluggable" brand lists that chipset in the description.

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can you install nic the other "nvme" slot?

tacit burrow
#

If I can find another Nic?

hardy valley
winged knoll
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You can run them both, with different Zigbee coordinators, on different channels

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Alternatively take the more sensible approach and add support for them to Z2M

gloomy elbow
#

I have used their smoke alarm with Z2M before, it may actually work already, just not be listed explicitly yet

toxic furnace
#

I've Googled this to death and cannot find the answer. I want to add a USB Drive to my NUC to use as Media Storage. I'm running HAOS and have the Terminal and SSH add-in installed. At the End of Day, SSD's are cheap, I could buy a bigger one and just do a new install, and restore the backup....but, I would like to get the USB drive to work. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

jagged crypt
toxic furnace
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I saw that, but I was a bit concerned that I would bin my system.

stark spade
#

Hi, quick question from me (a noob :)): I just got my Slimmelezer+ and wanted to integrate it in Home Assistant

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However, the entity I want to measure in my energy dashboard ("Power Consumed") is not available in the dropdown for measuring my net usage :/ Only "Energy Consumed Tariff 1" and "Energy Consumed Tariff 2"

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Does anyone know how to add the entity "Power Consumed"? The other 2 entities (Tariff 1 and 2) seem a bit off

winged knoll
stark spade
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cool, thanks 🙂

tacit burrow
#

@jagged crypt I bought a TP-Link USB 3.0 to 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN Network Adapter (UE300) because my research hinted at realtek, but since then, other stuff says it might be the same chip as I'm having problems with.

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I haven't opened it yet, but there's no conventional slot-plate on the back of the minipc for a pci-card (or whatever the modern equivalent is)

gentle fossil
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you have a pcie mini slot in the machine

tacit burrow
#

how does that work with no backplane? I haven't fiddled with hardware except rpi in long time

verbal geyser
#

i'm looking to add some rgb strips to my room, i'd need ~25ft or so, does anyone have any specific recommendations on amazon?

jagged crypt
gentle fossil
tired wedge
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I have HAOS installed in Proxmox, and I think I installed it prior to there being an official .qcow2 option. I remember converting the .ova, or something like that. Anyway, it runs great, but as I like to tinker I'd like to create the VM from scratch. Any idea if the qcow2 option works better/the same as creating a virtual machine and installing using the Generic x86-64 method?

jagged crypt
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a disk image is a disk image is a disk image?

tired wedge
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yeah

gentle fossil
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Both are generic, you either install container on debian or use haos.
You cannot manually install homeassitant in homeassitantOS.

tacit burrow
#

@jagged crypt M910q

jagged crypt
#

just don't mix up m910 sff with tiny

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technically the other m.2 slot is for wifi

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which is a second network 🙂

#

you could also handle stuff with pfsense "on a stick" if you wanted to learn more networking

tacit burrow
#

I can't see anything that looks like a PCI slot..... :/

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Google says "Correct, M910q has one 2.5" drive bay and one M.2 80mm SSD slot. No, a device in 2.5" bay could only connect to SATA, there is no possibility to connect to the PCIe bus without the connector soldered in place (as on the M910x.)"

gentle fossil
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That thing right next to the sata cable

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Should be m.2/nvme or pcie

tacit burrow
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How would I tell? My hardware days were back in PentiumPro days.

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PCI was the newfangled.

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PCIe looks like a short version of conventional slots, not like that one...?

gloomy spoke
#

"Runs Doom great!"

gentle fossil
#

looks like it would fit that card i linked you above

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mini pcie

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lenovos are picky on these slots what they accept, you might have to read up on what is compatible with the boards bios

tacit burrow
#

I can't see the slot? Looking up my serial number on lenovo support, can see a "pci riser". Is there some silly proprietary connector that needs adapter? foo

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Do you mean that brown ribbon-cably looking thing?

gentle fossil
#

mini pcie

tacit burrow
jagged crypt
#

minipci is the same as nvme for basic understanding....

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where the wireless card goes (is?)

tacit burrow
#

I don't think mine has any wireless

jagged crypt
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in the pastboard.co link above, to the left of the ribbon cable bottom left

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bottom is where your nvme drive would go if you have that (though i think you said you got sata)

tacit burrow
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I opened it up again. It's much clearer in person than the photo

jagged crypt
tacit burrow
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But i'll review that page too

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That page is for pfsense, when I think I need to solve at proxmox layer

jagged crypt
#

yeah, just looked at your proxmox post

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let me look, i thought you should be able to basically assign three(or two) interfaces to the pfsense device and do the tagging in proxmox, vs pfsense

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in your example 4001 and 4002, did you define a "default" vlan of 4001?

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you basically want 4001 untagged port 1&2, 4001&4002 port3 TAGGED, 4002 port4-8 untagged. (from your example). Then define two network interfaces in the proxmox virtual host VM , both attached to VMBR0, and add "tag=4001" to one of them, and "tag=4002" to the other.

tacit burrow
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(Yes, was expecting to expose a virtual LAN and WAN interface separately to pfsense)

jagged crypt
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depending on your switch config you may have been bridging a default vlan untagged from 1&2 to 4-8

tacit burrow
#

yeah, that could explain why the DHCP from the dmz (port 1) was servicing requests on the lan (ports 4-8)

jagged crypt
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i know what it "needs to be", but I'm unsure of how the switch translates the language to config 🙂

tacit burrow
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I've got a similar switch on my desk now, with the Hp box there, and a keyboard/screen.
But no wired LAN in my office, so only using point-to-point to my laptop, with a 1-1 cable

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I've got to go to a meeting now, back in an hour. THanks for your help!!

tacit burrow
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@jagged crypt I'm back. Didn't my screenshot of my switch config match what you described? (the two vlans). I probably didn't get the proxmox config right.

jagged crypt
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oh, didn't zoom in the switch config, let me look

tacit burrow
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I'm doing it again on a 5 port switch, with basically the same UI.
vlan 4001 = port 1 (untagged) + port 2 (tagged -> proxmox)
vlan 4002 = port 2 (tagged -> proxmox), port 3-4 (untagged)
vlan 1 (default) = port 5 (so I can still access switch UI)

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Just need to "fix" proxmox from current static/untagged config to use vlan tagging

jagged crypt
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on proxmox, you want multiple vnics

tacit burrow
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yup, I only have cli until I fix it so it's accessible again. Editing /etc/network/interfaces file now to try and make it support vlan tagging (4001 first)

jagged crypt
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wait, proxmox host should be fine, you are altering the Vnics on the vm

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what did you do to break GUI on Proxmox? (Did you turn on the fw?)

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host(one step down from datacenter) -> firewall->options. If firewall is on, it will only allow GUI/ssh connections from local network (can potentially ssh tunnel to deal with that if you want)

tacit burrow
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gui not broken, ALL connectivity to box broken (including ping iirc). Probably mistake in bridge-vlan-aware config etc

jagged crypt
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you want the host to be in vlan4002, right?

tacit burrow
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proxmox? yes. I'm just turning off tagging, so I can ssh in again

outer knotBOT
#

@jagged crypt I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.yaml
jagged crypt
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i "think" that should work

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you need the timebomb revert function (click "is this ok" in 30 seconds after a network change, or it reverts)

tacit burrow
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I don't have any gui, so doing it from console+keyboard.

jagged crypt
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that's in /etc/network/interfaces

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do you have console to recover?

tacit burrow
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Yeah

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I must have broken something. Can't get any connection, even back to stock no-vlan. Will try and fix that first.

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Thanks for your help!

jagged crypt
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changing the file requires a network reload

#

just in case here's a stock config:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

iface eno1 inet manual

auto vmbr0
iface vmbr0 inet static
        address 192.168.0.100/24
        gateway 192.168.0.1
        bridge-ports eno1
        bridge-stp off
        bridge-fd 0
tacit burrow
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I did systemctl restart networing

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will do a reboot just in case

jagged crypt
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thinking about it, you should actually be able to give vmbr0 and vmbr0.4005 two different addresses to cover the 4005 tagged, and the untagged options 🙂

tacit burrow
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I can't get any traffic at all to/from the box. I can see vmbr0.4002 interfce, with the static IP.
Is the "4002" in the name just for text, or does it actually select the vlanid?

jagged crypt
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vmbr0.4002 should mean accept tagged with id 4002 traffic

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so my understanding of your config, you should be seeing 4001 tags and 4002 tags in there. You need to parse the 4002 to get to the host side of the proxmox.

tacit burrow
#

That's what it looks like to me. But everything dead right now. Can see both ports lit on switch. UGH

jagged crypt
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"tcpdump -enl" on proxmox

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should display the traffic and you can see if it's tagged

tacit burrow
#

I remove the old second interface from proxmox config, and reboot to see.

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sec

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on vmbr0?

jagged crypt
#

on eno1

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I'm not running vlans on home network, and work network I play with, I don't have any tagging, just virtual switches (I had extra ports)

tacit burrow
#

Mine is called something long and stupid. But it's not seeing any traffic. Maybe my client is borked. It's not even getting arp etc anymore. I'm going to try and revert to simple, then make sure that works. Then move forward. Sec

jagged crypt
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if you aren't getting arps on the interface your switch isn't sending any traffic to it

tacit burrow
#

I think maybe I'm misunderstanding switch UI a bit?

jagged crypt
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possibly, i was looking at the tplink docs, looks like you can configure it two different ways (just to make it easier).

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but my reading of what you showed in screen shots was correct

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put another machine in the same vlan, untagged and leave proxmox as tagged, and set static ips onthe second one and see if you can see arp, etc

tacit burrow
#

I've gone back to complete untagged. No vlans. plugged into two ports, both of which are flashing, and showing packets on switch, but can't ping/ssh anything

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(on the proxmox)

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actually, not RX any packets from proxmox

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firewall? routing? sec, will check config again

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Oh 🤦

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I had swapped cable to the second nic, to make sure my stupid device names were the right way around.

jagged crypt
#

ha

tacit burrow
#

OK this (non vlan) config is working:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

iface enp0s31f6 inet manual

auto vmbr0
iface vmbr0 inet static
        address 192.168.30.200/24
        gateway 192.168.30.201
        bridge-ports enp0s31f6
        bridge-stp off
        bridge-fd 0
jagged crypt
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ok, copy that file to /root so you can avoid typing it again later 🙂

tacit burrow
#

Changed it to

auto vmbr0.4002
iface vmbr0.4002 inet static
      address 192.168.30.200/24
      gateway 192.168.30.1

auto vmbr0
iface vmbr0 inet static
        bridge-ports enp0s31f6
        bridge-stp off
        bridge-fd 0
        bridge-vlan-aware yes
        bridge-vids 2-4094
#

Restarting network, then will go turn it back on switch.

jagged crypt
#

running tcpdump on the interface after you change to tagged should at least let you see if you are seeing tagged traffic

tacit burrow
#

yes, I'm seeing 802.1Q packets (but no response to client)

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vlan:4002

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Is there additional firewall/config needed on proxmox?

jagged crypt
#

let me look

outer knotBOT
#

@jagged crypt I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
tacit burrow
#

will try

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None says bridge-vlan-aware? or vids-range?

jagged crypt
#

yeah, this is pushing the vlans into a bridge each

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so you should have to make a vmbr0v4001 also if this worked

tacit burrow
#

I didn't bother with 4001 yet. Nope, seems to be same as before? I can see 802.1Q packets in enp0s31f6 for vlan 4002... But no response packets

jagged crypt
#

so lets go back to the "easier" config if the results were the same

tacit burrow
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ok, I kept interfaces.panzer1 🙂

jagged crypt
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aha!

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so you are seeing 802.1q tagged for 4002 traffic, arping for 192.168.30.200?

tacit burrow
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cool, so the switch is configured properly at this point then

tacit burrow
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and no arp entries on my mac for the proxmox (.200)

❯ arp -i en5 -a
? (192.168.30.73) at b4:b0:24:3a:ec:3a on en5 ifscope [ethernet]
? (192.168.30.200) at (incomplete) on en5 ifscope [ethernet]
? (239.255.255.250) at 1:0:5e:7f:ff:fa on en5 ifscope permanent [ethernet]
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.73 is the switch

jagged crypt
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yeah, you don't have arp-responses coming out proxmox

tacit burrow
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also tried nuking my mac arp cache : sudo arp -a -d

jagged crypt
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we have the 4001/4002 defined properly, right?

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ie, 4002 in the config

tacit burrow
jagged crypt
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yeah, your switch is doing the right thing, sending tagged 4002

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and interfaces.panzer1 has vmbr0.4002?

tacit burrow
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and the interfaces file is per post at 3:24 above

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yup. And ifconfig shows enp0s31f6, vmbr0 and vmbr0.4002

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The latter showing 1 RX packet and 56 TX.

jagged crypt
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if you ping 192.168.30.1 from proxmox and run tcpdump in the background do you get arp requests at all?

tacit burrow
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there's probably no .30.1 that's normally a VM

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brb

jagged crypt
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well, you can put any host on there, it doesn't have to be 30.1

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ie the 192.168.30.x host you are pinging from would be fine

tacit burrow
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the only host is my mac. this is airgapped.

jagged crypt
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what were you pinging 30.200 from?

tacit burrow
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my mac. .222

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I've got a usb-eth connected to the switch to work on all this vlan stuff.

jagged crypt
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just ping 30.222 and see what happens

tacit burrow
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Sec, my replacement usb-eth device just arrived. WIll plug it in, see if it's the same chipset as the bad one

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pinging, it says destination host unreachable

jagged crypt
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run "tcpdump &" and then do the ping, you want to see the traffic

tacit burrow
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Nope, it's using rtl 8152. Maybe that's less bad? hahah.

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will do that now, sec

jagged crypt
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we are trying to see if the outbound traffic on the proxmox is tagged

tacit burrow
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I'm seeing outbound ARP requests (who-has) with 802.1Q and vlan 4002

jagged crypt
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ok, so outbound is working, inbound isn't

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on the proxmox side

tacit burrow
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we saw inbound on the first tcpdump, and outbound on here

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proxmox is connected to port 2

jagged crypt
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if proxmox is sending arp-requests on vlan4002, than outbound traffic is being tagged properly.

tacit burrow
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looks like it is, from tcpdump at least :/

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Strange, eh? Switch rejecting it?

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I can set up a monitor port I guess. But that's also my target host

jagged crypt
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well, you didn't see arp-responses when your mac was trying to talk to proxmox 30.200

tacit burrow
jagged crypt
tacit burrow
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I found a little difference. "manual" vs "static" in the last stanza

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SEc

jagged crypt
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ok

tacit burrow
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Otherwise my config looks identical

jagged crypt
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vmbr0 inet manual
vmbr0.4002 inet static

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right?

tacit burrow
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yup.

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Didn't seem to fix anything.

jagged crypt
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reboots fast now?

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we can cheat and send no 802.1q tags into the the port from the switch

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ie 4001 is tagged, 4002 is not

tacit burrow
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sorry was afk for a sec.

jagged crypt
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iface vmbr0 inet manual
    bridge-ports enp0s31f6
    bridge-stp off
    bridge-fd 0
    bridge-vlan-aware yes
    bridge-vids 2-4094
 
auto vlan4002
iface vlan4002 inet static
    address 192.168.30.200/24
    gateway 192.168.30.1
    vlan-raw-device vmbr0
tacit burrow
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How does the second iface know to use vlan?

jagged crypt
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vmbr0 is attached to enp0s31f6
vlan4002 is atttached to vmbr0

tacit burrow
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just going to reset my switch back to factory, then start again. For some reason was being silly.

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Maybe the new NIC will be fine, not crash, and can forget all this vlan stuff 🙂

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OK this is super frustrating :/

jagged crypt
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you may be hitting the point where walking away for 24 hours will be more valuable than banging your head against the wall some more

tacit burrow
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I've reset everything back to no-vlan old config. PS: is it normal to get duplicate pings when pinging a proxmox box? I've noticed this since day 1?

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One with a ttl=64 one with 255. These are literally the only two hosts on this LAN

❯ ping 192.168.30.200
PING 192.168.30.200 (192.168.30.200): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.30.200: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.521 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.30.200: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.653 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.30.200: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.915 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.30.200: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.931 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.30.200: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=1.138 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.30.200: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.156 ms (DUP!)
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tcpdump on the target only shows 1 reply, with ttl=64

jagged crypt
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i can check mine, but no is my normal answer

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no, not getting duplicate pings

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you have something else causing issues here

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you don't have duplicate ip addresses defined? proxmox host and guest?