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bronze prism
shrewd crypt
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yeah I mean there is one power strip listed there

bronze prism
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yeah there doesn't seem to be that many choices

keen star
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hi. are there any instructions on migrating from zha to z2m? ive installed the z2m addon and disabled the zha integration. ive read some people post that all their already included devices just appear but thats not happening for me. is there a file i can copy from one place to another? or will i have to reset and reinclude all my devices?

keen star
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can i get zha to tell me the network key?

molten linden
white aurora
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Has anyone seen a Sonoff button that won't report battery level or action, etc?

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It pairs and interviews but everything except link quality is N/A

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I remove it and delete it and repair it and it says the interview has been completed but I'm still not getting anything other than link quality

cedar moat
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Is anybody using the Conbee II/deCONZ/Phoscon setup? I've set up a door sensor from Aqara that I can see in the Phoscon web app, but I am unable to find it under Settings -> Devices and Services -> Devices

bronze prism
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not sure how accurate the battery level is though

white aurora
bronze prism
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hmm not sure what you can do to be honest? change the battery?

white aurora
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Fresh batt

bronze prism
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swap the batt from the working one to the non-working one? (just to completely rule out the batt?) if not sounds like you might have a lemon

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i'm not sure if there's a way to "factory reset" these things

white aurora
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It was working before it just stopped

bronze prism
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but you said you fully removed it from the network and re-paired it and it still doesn't work right?

white aurora
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Yep. Force removed and then reset pin pressed

bronze prism
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well i can't think of anything else ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

white aurora
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Other button reports N/A only for action and only when not pressed

bronze prism
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yes that's the same as what I have

white aurora
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I should move to ZHA

bronze prism
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worth a shot i suppose if you have the time to switch

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it's weird it suddenly stopped working

white aurora
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error 2022-05-23 13:10:14Request 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/request/device/configure_reporting' failed with error: 'Bind 0x00124b0024ffff06/1 genPowerCfg from '0x00124b0024c82ec2/1' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms)'

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@bronze prism lmao

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I had to hold the reset button and as soon as it said "xxx has left the network" I hit the restart button on the zigbee2mqtt addon

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And then it paired perfectly

bronze prism
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no idea what that error means.. does that mean it works now?

ocean cloak
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I'm using Z2M. I have this Philips Hue motion sensor that just won't report. I can have it join the network fine, but then it just doesn't seem to send any updates. It was working 100% fine on ZHA, then it became spotty on Z2M, and now it's completely stopped working. I've tried changing the batteries with no luck. I've also tried this after changing channels (to 25).

I also have two other of these same sensors which have been working flawlessly since I got them 6 months ago. Any idea what could be going on?

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Or if there are logs or diagnostics I could grab that would be helpful in troubleshooting

bronze prism
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does it report any logs when it detects motion?

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and does it pass the interview/pairing process fine in Z2M? is it possible to OTA it?

ocean cloak
bronze prism
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so the exposes page is all n/a then?

ocean cloak
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Also yeah tried new batteries I ordered just to be sure I had fresh ones

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Just tried checking for new updates via the UI and it said there weren't any and it's on the same firmware as the others

bronze prism
ocean cloak
bronze prism
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hmm

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to be honest sounds like you covered all basis.. maybe someone else will have some ideas

ocean cloak
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State tab is all null except lqi as well

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I might just see if I can return it. It's been dropping off the network sporadically. It was totally fine with ZHA then started acting up after I switched to Z2M (which could have just been a coincidence)

bronze prism
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might be a lemon

ocean cloak
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It sits right behind my keyboard so maybe it was activating too often. Only crazy out there thing I can think of

ocean cloak
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It's weird that this page keeps calling it a bulb

bronze prism
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i assume the same process works with a bulb

ocean cloak
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Seems like almost all of this is just copy/paste for all Hue devices. I'm gonna try the Touchlink thing though

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I have a Tube zigbee coordinator. I think it should work?

bronze prism
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does the tube use a TI CC chip? I think it does?

white aurora
bronze prism
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how did you come up with that reset process?

mighty river
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Hi everyone, HA is a new topic for me and I'm just getting started with it. I have a quite annoying issue with Power Delivered (sensor.smartenergy_metering_summation_delivered) stopped being updated after a few hours in HA. I'm using Zigbee Sonoff USB Dongle (detected as Texas Instruments CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20220219)) and the Smart Plug is detected as TS011F. When I try to reset the docker HA container, the new values are reloaded, but it's not updated anymore. The only thing that worked so far was manual re-sync of all sensors. But again, after it, a few hours later sensor values stops to update again.

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Interestingly, one of the plugs is reporting power delivered correctly, but the rest of them - not

sour shadow
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Is the plug near another working plug?

mighty river
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this working plug has the other plug closer than the coordinator, if it's what you're asking

sour shadow
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Yeah, just checking that it's in range of teh mesh

mighty river
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the other value (Power) is updated every few seconds

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on all plugs

sour shadow
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Sounds like Tuya being Tuya then

mighty river
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the problem is with Energy (Power Delivered) and RMS Current and

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so is there any way to make them more reliable? I.e. flashing with some other firmware ?

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the other thing I wanted to try is to use zigbee2mqtt but I belive my coordinator uses zha? is there a way to use it with zigbee2mqtt?

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I'm a little confused with those two - are those zigbee2mqtt and zha related to the used chip or firmware within those chips?

sour shadow
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ZHA and Z2M are two different software solutions for working with Zigbee

mighty river
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yes, but it's possible to use both on the same Zigbee chip?

sour shadow
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Either can use that coordinator, and changing won't fix the Tuya device

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Sure, but not at the same time

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Just like only one person can drive a car at any given time

mighty river
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sure, I understand that

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but what is selecting the zigbee2mqtt/zha - is the HA configuration or do I need some other firmware for this sonoff chip?

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ahh... software

sour shadow
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Yes

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You select it

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ZHA is built into HA. Z2M is external.

mighty river
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so I should install the Z2M on the docker container and re-configure the HA to use it?

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I'm using the docker for HA - it's just a startpoint to get used to it and move to some other platform if needed, but for now I'm struggling with getting it working in a most basic configuration :/

cobalt dew
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I just did HA as a docker coantainer and same boat, a lot to understand

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So you have an external dongle?

mighty river
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yes

cobalt dew
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usb?

mighty river
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yes, sonoff ZBDongle

sour shadow
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Switching to Z2M isn't going to fix this

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The problem is with the device, not ZHA

cobalt dew
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cool, so how did you pass the usb port into HA? something in docker-compose.yaml?

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@sour shadow the sonoff dongle?

sour shadow
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Switching to Z2M isn't going to fix your Tuya plug reporting

mighty river
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on-demand?

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as for the Z2M, I would like to use it, because it seems to have more customization possibilities than ZHA, or I'm not aware of those in my current configuration

sour shadow
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You said the others do it, so ...

mighty river
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I've seen that Z2M have the possibility to add additional parameters in yml for each device

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I couldn't find anything like that for ZHA (except very poor configuration within device tab on HA)

sour shadow
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Interestingly, one of the plugs is reporting power delivered correctly, but the rest of them - not
That points to the problem being the plug

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And, to be fair, Tuya are known for being agooglepoop

mighty river
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yes, I'm just getting to know it on my own skin :/

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there's some possibilities to tweak with them :

sour shadow
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Starting with firmware version 1.0.5 (which comes pre-flashed on plugs produced since Q4 2021) core functionality on this plug is broken
facepalm

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In 2022, BlitzWolf started to sell BW-SHP13 that identify as _TZ3000_amdymr7l. Those devices report power, current and voltage unreliably
facepalm facepalm

mighty river
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yhea, sound really bad

sour shadow
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To be honest, it sounds about normal for Tuya

latent rose
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hi everyone, I use ikea light bulbs but their minimum brightness is still pretty high. I am wondering if you have recommendation for good bulbs with lower minimum brightness. I assume phillips hue are better but looking for cheaper options if possible

mighty river
# tropic depot we're working on this

it would be great to have more flexibility here, but in the meantime I will probably try to tweak with zibgee2mqtt, just to see if I can use the pooling to get those values out of those plugs once in a while

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I don't need them to be reported every few seconds

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even once per hour, or even once per day would be good for now

mighty river
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I think I just searched for new integration and selected Zigbee, and then HA asked for USB device to pick

warm umbra
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Hello,
I found some issues with my zigbee shutter modules and/or switches.

I use zigbee Moes switches, 3 button switches. They work fine as far as I can tell. To control my window shutters I use modules by loratap ( https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Hfa7e23be077d4d21bc23e0c8f6ee64c19.png )

I noticed that sometimes the communication between them doesn't seem to work well. I have automations setup to manually open/close them as well as automations that automatically open/close. The automatic works fine but sometimes when I push the button set to open/close a window shutter it doesn't respond. I can see that the automation gets triggered by the last time.. so the signal does arrive to trigger it. Any idea what I can do to test/try what's wrong?

hot tendon
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Tubez devices are great, do you have POE? I prefer z2m, but as I say, each has their adherents.

latent rose
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what's the main difference between this Tubez device and, say, a conbee stick?

faint zephyr
molten linden
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Most of my devices connect via serial over tcp. I do sell a usb option (network connection can be added later if ever wanted)

hot tendon
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conbee are quite old now and tubez devices (and, to be fair, any cc2652 base device) is much better and more modern tech. There seems also to be a growing number of posts on the forum about failing conbee devices.

molten linden
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the newer EFR32 radios are good too, just not supported well in z2m, they also have a path to running zigbee and thread concurrently (kind of alpha now) so this is how Yellow will ultimately support the Thread side of Matter. (and they are much harder to source).

thorny cargo
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Hey wonderful people of the internet. I am going to migrate from ZHA to Z2M (too many device drop outs with my Aqara motion sensors amongst other things). I only have 1 co-ordinator and I don't want to wait and order another one. Presumably I cannot have the same USB device configured for both ZHA and Z2M at the same time? I assume I will need to install Z2M (but without pointing it to my USB stick), then delete all of the devices in ZHA and delete the integration, then point Z2M at the USB stick?

sour shadow
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Correct

thorny cargo
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Thanks! Do you think it would do any harm if I get Z2M completely ready, except for pointing the USB before I disable ZHA? Just trying to minimize downtime

sour shadow
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Well, you can't really get it ready until you can connect it to the coordinator

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Note that changing to Z2M won't fix the problems with your mesh

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The drop outs will continue until you address the health of the mesh

thorny cargo
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I don't think its a mesh issue. I believe it to be a device specific issue. It is only the Aqara motion sensors that drop out, all other zigbee based devices have experience no dropouts to date

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Although I am quite happy to be informed otherwise. Moving over all devices to Z2M isn't something I am thrilled about

sour shadow
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Yup, which is still a mesh issue - nothing to do with ZHA vs Z2M

thorny cargo
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Oh ok. I had read that that ZHA was not playing well with the newer Aqara motion sensors. Thus my thinking to change setup

sour shadow
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There's a good guide on Xiaomi in the pins

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The very new sensors may not be fully supported, but it's a support thing, not a reliability thing

thorny cargo
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Oh right. So basically if it shows up and ever worked, then its not a ZHA issue, its a mesh issue. If it never worked in the first place, then its a ZHA issue?

sour shadow
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Correct

thorny cargo
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The only other reason I was thinking of moving was that my Ikea Symfonisk remote flately refuses to do anything in ZHA (it pairs but never recognises any events)

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So if I can resolve without this, then thats great

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I shall go and read the pins

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Thanks

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I am also using a USB3.0 port on my RPI4 which it seems like could be not helping. Although I haven't experienced any general network issues. Just specifically these aqara devices

sour shadow
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Yeah, well, that's not helping for sure

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Again, there's a pinned message about that

thorny cargo
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Potentially dumb question.... if I change the port my USB stick is plugged into, will I have to rebuild the ZHA network, or does magic occur and it will just work?

sour shadow
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Nah, as long as you used the /dev/serial/by-id/ path there's nothing to worry about

thorny cargo
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How would I validate that? I don't remember picking a path. When I plugged the device in, it was auto discovered by ZHA and I just followed the instructions

sour shadow
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Then the system should hopefully have done the smart thing

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Worst case you'll need to reconfigure ZHA, but it shouldn't happen, and that won't require you to re-pair all the devices

thorny cargo
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I have also read all of the pinned posts, I have no direct conflicting 2.4GHz channels (that are under my control anyway), I have no known incompatible repeaters, in-fact both motion sensors are closest to a known supported Ikea wireless outlet. I am considering changing the USB port, adding an extension cable and then trying to pair again?

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I am going to go away and read how to understand my network map to see if that tells me something illuminating. At the moment, its just blobs and lines that although I can see what goes where, the significance of this is lost on me!

sour shadow
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Well, you can pick channels that are more clear. If the default of 15 is noisy, change to (say) 25 and re-pair everything

thorny cargo
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Nothing on 15 at all, so I am not expecting that to be an issue. I do have google Wifi which does auto channel hop, but only between 1, 6 & 11 as far as I am aware

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Thank you for the advice!

sour shadow
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15 for Zigbee isn't 15 for WiFi

thorny cargo
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Oh right. I see....... Zigbee 15 is the same as WiFi 1-6?

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There are 2 networks on 1 and 2 on 6. So not very busy..... I also am not sure I quite understand why this would only affect the aqara based devices. I can see from reading that they are a bit picky, and can be tough to pair due to their not standard adoption of the standard (got to love tech companies who do this.....) and at first I thought it was just one device, but now I have both setup, they both have the same symptoms. They pair fine to begin with, and then they stop functioning and either always report the same motion/lux values, or they show as unavailable....

sour shadow
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Many possible reasons. Maybe they're closer to the source of interference, maybe they have a weaker connection to your mesh. Maybe they need new batteries.

thorny cargo
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They are both near a wifi node, but so are the lights they are supposed to control, and also next to a tradfri power socket. I will try the USB socket and extension cable, re-pair them and see how it goes.

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Would it be worth me posting a network visualisation to see if anyone can spot anything problematic?

sour shadow
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Sure, though to be honest the LQI is just a vague hint

cyan totem
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Hi all! Ive just installed a loratap zigbee curtain switch https://a.aliexpress.com/_vki765 and it added to my zha without any issue, but I need to calibrate it properly, and I cant find where to do that

jaunty maple
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I have an ikea switch that's connected to my homey and then pushed to home assistant via MQTT. Problem is that it only shows up with the battery indicator and not the actual switch in home assistant. Anyone know how i can fix that?

austere patio
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If your sensors are near one of your own access points on channel 2, that would definitely cause problems

thorny cargo
austere patio
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What Aqara sensors are causing problems?

thorny cargo
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Aqara motion sensors

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I have moved my USB stick to a USB 2.0 port, and put it on an extension cable away from the RPI

austere patio
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The old ones or the new ones?

thorny cargo
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I repaired both motion sensors and now one has stayed connected (2 hours so far), the other stopped reporting changes almost immediately

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I believe they are the new ones

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They are certainly new to me

austere patio
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Are they advertised as "Zigbee 3.0" or take multiple coin cell batteries?

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If they're the old ones that just have a single coin cell at the bottom, they could be stock from years ago and the batteries could be at the end of their lifespan

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Try swapping the batteries between a sensor that works and one that doesn't

thorny cargo
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I havent opened the bottom, but the listing says 1 lithium metal battery

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Both have been having issues

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But yes, that is something I can truy

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the moment I press the reset button, the blue light immediately comes on, but I guess there could be enough power to do that, but bugger all else

austere patio
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If you keep clicking the button, does the light get dimmer and dimmer with each blink? Do the LEDs on the two sensors blink with similar intensity?

thorny cargo
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Not noticably different

austere patio
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If they're older Aqara sensors, they sort of operate in one direction. They just send stuff to the coordinator and go back to sleep. No configuration.

austere patio
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Yeah that's the old one

thorny cargo
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Oh ok

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So I should try changing the battery and see how I get on?

austere patio
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Sure, it's worth a shot. There's not much else you can try other than changing the network channel.

thorny cargo
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Ok. I will try that this evening, and if that doesn't work, then I will migrate to Z2M and change channel

austere patio
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Changing the channel blindly won't really do much. I suggest doing a scan and re-forming your network on a quiet channel, assuming your problem is with the channel to begin with

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Especially with older Aqara sensors like these, there's really zero functional difference between the two integrations other than Z2M defaulting to channel 11 and ZHA to 15

thorny cargo
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I am also having some issues with a few ikea devices (one motion sensor and one symfonisk sound control), that I was hoping I could alleviate

austere patio
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Which issues?

thorny cargo
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Does Z2M have any better ability to "force" certain routes for devices, or is the point of the mesh that it does this all by magic

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The motion sensor will pair fine, but never report any change in state (somewhat similar to the one of the Aqara sensors), the rotary dial will pair fine, but never recognises any button presses or turns of the dial

austere patio
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Z2M and ZHA both just ask the coordinator to send a packet to the device. The coordinator's firmware decides how that happens, so it's effectively magic.

thorny cargo
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Right ok.

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I guess I could try flashing my Sonoff 3.0 plus dongle with the new firmware as well.... can't harm (I would hope)

austere patio
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There are ways to override sending a packet to a device, but neither integration exposes a way to force routes like this (nor is it a good idea). There's zero way to control how devices send packets back.

thorny cargo
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I wasn't sure if it was like some of the more traditional networks I am used to, where you can force traffic over a desired route

austere patio
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If you're going to be reflashing the firmware, you may as well do an energy scan at the same time to look for a quieter channel

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ZHA doesn't permit you to change the channel after your network has already been formed (since it's effectively destroying the network and forming a new one) so you'll have to reset the adapter anyways for it to read the channel config, which flashing the firmware does

thorny cargo
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So my USB device is plugged into my RPI. Can I run the command listed on the github readme via the terminal add on for HA

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or will I need to SSH directly on to the RPI or something like that

austere patio
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There are "installation" instructions at the top for getting the correct addon running

thorny cargo
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Ahh perfect. Thanks. I missed that

austere patio
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And from there, you can just run pip install intelhex 'git+https://github.com/JelmerT/cc2538-bsl.git' and run the flashing script with --bootloader-sonoff-usb to upgrade the firmware without taking the adapter apart.

thorny cargo
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Oh right. That will automatically pull the latest firmware and update it for me?

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Nice

austere patio
thorny cargo
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Ok, so channels 17 & 18 look busy

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11 is at 50%

austere patio
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What about 15? Can you upload your results somewhere?

thorny cargo
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It seems to be constant updating, not sure how to export the outcome

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Or is it a simple take a screenshot job

austere patio
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A screenshot is fine, you can ctrl-c to stop it

thorny cargo
austere patio
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Looks like you have nearby WiFi networks on 1 and 5?

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Maybe try switching the channel in ZHA to 25 and then upgrade your firmware to wipe the stick

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zha:
  zigpy_config:
    network:
      channel: 25
thorny cargo
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Is 25 compatible with all the Zigbee devices? I half read something, somewhere about certain devices not support certain channels

sour shadow
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26 is the problem channel

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I'm not aware of anything that doesn't support 11, 15, 20, 25... though I'm sure there's some ๐Ÿ˜„

austere patio
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I think there's some brand out there that only scans for networks on the "standard" ones, like 25

sour shadow
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Konke

thorny cargo
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Thanks. I really appreciate the help. Presumably, that code needs to go into my configuration.yaml, then I need to reboot HA?

austere patio
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Yep. It will only take effect if a new network will need to be formed, so only after you wipe the stick after upgrading the firmware

tropic depot
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whoops missed tinks reply

sour shadow
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To be fair, it's bad enough to be worth repeating

tropic depot
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lol

thorny cargo
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Ok. So I need to do the firmware update, which will entire wipe my ZHA integration and devices, it will restart on Channel 25 and then I can re-add everything and see if that makes a difference

austere patio
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Yep

thorny cargo
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With the .hex file, is there a way I can use terminal to pull it onto the RPI and extract, rather than do it on a machine and try and transfer it over? Or am I better off, just plugging it into my laptop and doing it there, and then plugging it back into the RPI?

austere patio
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It's all Python scripts so if it's easier to run the pip install ... stuff on the laptop, go for it

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Otherwise you should be able to get the raw .zip URL from the GitHub download page, unzip it on the pi (assuming HA OS has unzip), and then flash the firmware there

dusk crest
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#automations-archived message
As I've explained over in #automations-archived I've been experiencing some funky behavior with my Booleans which Daniel helped me track down to my IKEA button (since it isn't showing this behavior when running the automation with a Boolean as the trigger), any idea on how I'd approach this issue

thorny cargo
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@austere patio sorry for so many questions. Just want to make sure I get the order right. I need to download the zip containing my relevant .hex file (which I presume I can do in terminal somehow), then extract it with unzip. Then I need to run this (pip install intelhex 'git+https://github.com/JelmerT/cc2538-bsl.git') in terminal, followed by --bootloader-sonoff-usb

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Presumably, at somepoint, i will need to point one of these commands to the unzipped Hex

austere patio
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It would be something like this: cc2538-bsl.py --bootloader-sonoff-usb -evw -p /dev/serial/by-id/... /path/to/image.hex

thorny cargo
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I see. So the cc2538-bsl.py is the python script I get from JelmerT github repo, intelhex is some kind of dependancy of the process (that I will install prior to running the above command), then --bootloader-sonoff-usb is the instruction to the python scipt, -p is the path the USB device and then /path/to/image.hex is the location of the downloaded and unzipped hex file

austere patio
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Yep

thorny cargo
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Do i need to delete/disbale my existing ZHA configuration before hand, or will it happen as part of the process

austere patio
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If you haven't flashed anything yet, I would remove the ZHA integration entirely

thorny cargo
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presumably in terminal I can just use wget to pull the relevant hex file from github?

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Ok

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I will do that first

thorny cargo
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@austere patio Can I use the "devname" when referring to the USB device?

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I think the terminal command I would run to do this is...

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cc2538-bsl.py --bootloader-sonoff-usb -evw -p /dev/ttyUSB0 ./config/CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20220219.hex

austere patio
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I always prefer the /dev/serial/by-id/... symbolic link since you can be 100% sure it will point to the correct /dev/ttyUSB? device

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But they're otherwise identical, especially if you have only one USB device

thorny cargo
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Ok... so it would be better to do this

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cc2538-bsl.py --bootloader-sonoff-usb -evw -p /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_b400356ff112ec1199b723c7bd930c07-if00-port0
./config/CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20220219.hex

austere patio
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That should work

thorny cargo
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Once this process is done, I should restart HA, and it should then pick up my usb device as a new integration for ZHA, but will be channel 25 based on that configuration I added to my configuration.yaml?

austere patio
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Yep

thorny cargo
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Trying to run that, I get

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ERROR: No file path given

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zsh: permission denied: ./config/CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20220219.hex

austere patio
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I think you may have a newline somewhere

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And it's not being run as a single command

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Yeah, the /config/... part is on its own line

thorny cargo
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You are right

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It is running now

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Ends with Verified (match: 0xddfc152d)

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Time for an HA restart

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How would I know if the flash and channel change has worked? Is there anyway to see that

austere patio
thorny cargo
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Well its showing up and has been discovered. I got some errors in the logs which I assume are becuase my automations are now buggered as the devices don't exist!

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Its automatically found a bunch of devices?

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Even though they arent in pairing mode.... is that normal. Or will the devices have put themselves in pairing mode as the co-ordinator went offline?

austere patio
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If you didn't delete the /config/zigbee.db file, cached device information will be read from it

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It will speed up device re-joins, since ZHA won't have to query them for info after they join and will just immediately configure them

thorny cargo
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Oh right. Awesome

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So will I need to pair them again, or should they just work now :)?

austere patio
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You'll have to re-join them all to your new network

thorny cargo
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Or will I need to trigger the pair on each device to generate the new network

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Right yes, I can see that although they all show up in the list, their last seen date is pre-flash

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Do I need to delete them from this list, click "Add Device" and set the device into pairing mode. Or do I just put the device into pairing mode and it will re-connect to the relevant existing cached device info?

austere patio
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You can click "add device" and then join the device to the network

wary harbor
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anybody using the aqara temp/humidity sensor and noticing issues with the battery? mine is running out fast. I have it running for a few weeks now and the battery reached 62%

thorny cargo
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Ok, if I give it the name of something already in this list, will it just "merge" them?

austere patio
wary harbor
austere patio
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Yep

wary harbor
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so it'll just die when battery runs out? that sucks..

austere patio
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They last for years so it's not much of a problem. The device should be marked as " offline" by whatever integration you're using when that happens.

wary harbor
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got it, thanks

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also, how can I find out if signal strength to said device is fine?

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is the LQI field accurate?

austere patio
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LQI represents the received link quality between the last hop of the last packet sent by the device and your coordinator

wary harbor
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I see it now 102, and I only have a single coordinator with no repeaters

austere patio
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With Aqara you just have to make sure to permit joins only through the physically closest router so it picks a good parent

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In that case it's fine

wary harbor
austere patio
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Depends on the integration you're using. In ZHA, you go to the router device and permit joins through the button on that page

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With Z2M I believe there's a dropdown

wary harbor
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yeah, I'm using ZHA and I see "Add devices via this device" - I'm assuming you mean the same thing but on a repeater?

austere patio
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Yep

wary harbor
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got it, thanks

thorny cargo
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@austere patio thanks for all your help. All my devices are now re-joined and automations repaired

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Will see if that has helped these motion sensors later when their automations kick in

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Annoyingly my ikea rotary/symfonisk device is still doing bugger all

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Pairs fine, but it never recieves any events. Not sure where to go next with it

austere patio
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Have you tried hitting the "reconfigure" button while rotating it?

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Some IKEA devices go to sleep really quickly and it can take a few attempts for all of the reporting to be set up on it

thorny cargo
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Just trying that now

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Says device reconfiguration failed

austere patio
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You have to keep the device awake so that it can receive commands

thorny cargo
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Where are these logs that the error message says I might find more details?

austere patio
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It'll be in /config/home-assistant.log

thorny cargo
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I just see lots of failures for that time when I tried to do the reconfig. I have no idea how to keep this thing alive long enough for it to repair. I have tried turning it, pressing it, occasionaly pressing the reset button?!

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I think I am giving up on this device for today, and hoping that my other issue of Aqara sensors is fixed ๐Ÿ™‚

steep bolt
austere patio
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Have you tried unplugging the Conbee?

steep bolt
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yes

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but i havent tried a different usb port. Also it is set to USB2.0

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alright

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switching the port worked.
I thought i had tried every combination of things, but was proven wrong. Thank you

dusk crest
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#automations-archived message
As I've explained over in #automations-archived I've been experiencing some funky behavior with my Booleans which Daniel helped me track down to my IKEA button (since it isn't showing this behavior when running the automation with a Boolean as the trigger), any idea on how I'd approach this issue?

bronze prism
woeful urchin
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Does anyone know the secret to getting IKEA motion sensors to report their true battery level after replacement? I'm using Zigbee2MQTT.

queen bay
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Got a usb zigbee dongle and a couple sensors to play around with. Was able to get one sensor configured and working for a bit, but now it just shows a status of unavailable. I'm using ZHA. Could the fact that I have the mosquito broker installed be affecting things, even though I don't have any devices configured to use it?

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Sorry if this is a dumb question. I am trying to learn the ropes of HA but not having a lot of luck

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seeing this after enabling debugging:

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2022-05-24 16:35:07 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Bus:Handling <Event state_changed[L]: entity_id=button.sliding_door_identify, old_state=<state button.sliding_door_identify=unavailable; restored=True, device_class=update, friendly_name=Sliding door identify, supported_features=0 @ 2022-05-24T16:35:07.834936-07:00>, new_state=<state button.sliding_door_identify=unavailable; device_class=update, friendly_name=Sliding door identify @ 2022-05-24T16:35:07.834936-07:00>>

pastel ice
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Came across the HUSBZB-1 firmware update script. My stick is around 3 years old, what am I missing out on without updating? Thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

sudden plank
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I'm pretty heavily invested in the Aqara zigbee ecosystem previously with HomeKit as my smart home platform and looking for how best to move this setup to home assistant; I have buttons, motion sensors, humidity/temp sensors, vibration sensors, and lots of door/window sensors. I also use the light on the Aqara Hub M1S a ton as a status light for things like "the stove is on" and "the door is unlocked".

My Home Assistant server is out in the garage and not really near any zigbee devices at allโ€ฆ by about 80ft at least, which is why the zigbee hubs (particularly the wired M2) have been great to bridge over WiFi.

The M2 seems unsupported and the M1(S) requires you to use a mainland China account to get it working and that's not something I'm ok with.

Any suggestions for how to successfully migrate this over?

blissful pilot
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Hey guys, if I have a Zigbee device (thermostat) which should support different modes (heat and cool) but the deCONZ addon only creates a heat-only thermostat, is there something I can do to correct the issue?

Note that on deCONZ I can manually set the heatpoint, coolpoint and mode. The issue is only on the entity that home assistant creates through the addon.

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I think by best chance is to manually edit the entity files created by the deCONZ integration? Where do I find them tho?

sudden plank
blissful pilot
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However when I try to change coolsetpoint and mode it reverts after few attempts.

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2022-05-25 11:51:49 DEBUG (MainThread) [pydeconz.websocket] {"config":{"battery":0,"controlsequence":5,"coolsetpoint":1200,"heatsetpoint":1400,"mode":"3","offset":0,"on":false,"reachable":true,"schedule":{},"schedule_on":false},"e":"changed","id":"2","r":"sensors","t":"event","uniqueid":"00:0d:6f:00:15:eb:1a:87-01-0201"}```
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Why does it go from "mode : cool" to "mode : 3"?

snow gate
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Trying to update my Tubes Ethernet/serial coordinator without joy. Is there a better/updated procedure? Iโ€™ve tried the one from the HA wiki but not working. Appreciate any help? Also what about the OTA feature? #Tubes

molten linden
limber gate
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hey guys

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anyone familiar with tasmota flashing to sonoff devices?

sour shadow
mighty river
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nope @limber gate :c I've also have silly issue, zigbee2mqtt can't connect to mosquitto because... i skipped the part of installing it, so i installed, and still zigbee2mqtt can't connect, even I did the mossquitto installation like guide says, and nothing changed :C

limber gate
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ye me too, you have to flash it first.. okay ill move to #diy-archived

mighty river
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I have the gateway flashed already ๐Ÿ˜‰

sour shadow
limber gate
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me or him ?

sour shadow
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The person I tagged in the reply...

sour shadow
limber gate
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oh okay, sorry not familiar with discord

sour shadow
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ablobjoy 4 years on Discord and you've hardly used it ablobthinking

mighty river
# sour shadow What error are you getting _now_?

Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:23:39: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://core-mosquitto:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-05-25 22:23:40: MQTT failed to connect: Connection refused: Not authorized
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-05-25 22:23:40: Exiting...

limber gate
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yes, downloaded it because my friends started using this instead of skype

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don't like it that much tho

sour shadow
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As you're using the Mosquitto add-on, you use an account created in HA

mighty river
sour shadow
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Create a user in HA and it's available to the add-on

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Then "all" you need to do is configure Z2M to use those details

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You can install MQTT Explorer on Windows and use that to test

mighty river
mighty river
mighty river
sour shadow
mighty river
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but still I have one question left, can I use same account as I am using to open HA or it should be separate only for z2m ?

sour shadow
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You can, but you probably shouldn't

mighty river
sour shadow
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๐Ÿ˜ฑ

mighty river
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so it should be no xD

sour shadow
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It doesn't need to have full admin rights to your HA instance

mighty river
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so the output on z2m is > zigbee2mqtt@1.25.1 start

node index.js
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:28: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2022-05-25.22-38-24' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:28: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.25.1 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:28: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.27)
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:29: zigbee-herdsman started (resumed)
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:29: Coordinator firmware version: '{"meta":{"maintrel":1,"majorrel":2,"minorrel":7,"product":1,"revision":20210708,"transportrev":2},"type":"zStack3x0"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:29: Currently 0 devices are joined:
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:29: Zigbee: disabling joining new devices.
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:30: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://core-mosquitto:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:31: Connected to MQTT server
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:31: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state', payload 'online'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:32: Started frontend on port 0.0.0.0:8099
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:32: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/config', payload '{"commit":"unknown","coordinator":{"meta":{"maintrel":1,"majorrel":2,"minorrel":7,"product":1,"revision":20210708,"transportrev":2},"type":"zStack3x0"},"log_level":"info","network":{"channel":11,"extendedPanID":"0x00124b0024c8bc79","panID":6754},"permit_join":false,"version":"1.25.1"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-25 22:38:32: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state', payload 'online'

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is it right?

sour shadow
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Well, I don't see any ERROR messages there

mighty river
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because frontend is up at the moment

sour shadow
#

Next thing to do is update the firmware on your coordinator ๐Ÿ˜‰

mighty river
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also, my other silly question, about gateway, I have "Sonoff ZigBee Dongle Plus ZBDongle-P Adapter ZigBee 3.0" pre-flashed with Z-Stack 3.x.0 coordinator

mighty river
sour shadow
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Did you read the log you posted?

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In two places it tells you the coordinator firmware version

mighty river
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ffs year behind

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so... i suppose it cannot be updated via RPi ? :c

sour shadow
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Mac is an option

mighty river
mighty river
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am i right that outdated firmware gives you less devices ?

sour shadow
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or see "Flashing CC1352/CC2652/CC2538 based adapters" below

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Lists three ways that are multi-platform, plus the Windows only tool

mighty river
#

ok, I've missinterpreted this.. sorry

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but flashing will not need new configuration or re-configuring HA, am I right ?

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT isn't Home Assistant, flashing the coordinator has nothing to do with HA at any step

mighty river
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ok, so now I have to download it and try to flash it, hope I won't brick the stick ๐Ÿ˜„

cobalt dew
austere patio
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I personally avoid anything branded Tuya. They're responsible for like 90% of device support problems since they have their own proprietary protocol on top of Zigbee.

cobalt dew
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tinkerer said avoid tuya so you are not the first to say that hence I am avoiding their kit. being in NZ getting anything is a problem let alone affordable, TY ๐Ÿ™‚

woeful urchin
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Except for motion sensors, then I go with Ikea.

cobalt dew
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Ok I'd like not to use battery stuff if I can.

woeful urchin
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I would also avoid Tuya, especially since they're moving away from ESP-chips.

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Well, I just checked AliExpress, and looks like there's a limited quantity of Aqara FP1's available.

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Which is expensive but very cool.

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@sour shadow Have you looked at the FP1 yet?

cobalt dew
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i'd also like to talk to arduinos as uno's are dirt cheap and I have a few in kit

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those fp1's look good

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I like usb powered that fp1 looks really neat

austere patio
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Huh, it looks like it exposes a 4x4 detection grid

woeful urchin
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Does anyone know the secret to getting IKEA motion sensors to report their true battery level after replacement? I'm using Zigbee2MQTT.

cobalt dew
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yes I need to read soooo much

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not so much cheap as un-encumbered / locked in by manufacturers

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working in IT I am sick of being locked into a silo so I/we cant do what we want to by vendors hence homeassistant.

grim igloo
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sounds like you would enjoy playing with esphome then

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and making your own sensors etc with esp32 devices

cobalt dew
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I saw something on that

grim igloo
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home assistant (nabu casa) acquired them

cobalt dew
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yes that might be an idea

grim igloo
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so it makes even more sense to play with it

cobalt dew
bronze prism
raw goblet
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Hi all! finally was brave enough to move to ZHA today, flashed the sonoff 3pro , added a repeater and its looking good! bus still confused about 1 thing:

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how (and if at all possible) does one add old hubs (hue,aqra etc) into the mesh? can they be used as repeaters?

sour shadow
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You don't, they can't

raw goblet
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and if not with aqara hubs which are cameras and alarms, how does one add them, or is that also not possible?

raw goblet
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but in all seriousness what about aqara hubs that have cameras etc

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i wont be able to use that camera?

sour shadow
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These devices are intended as Zigbee hubs only, so you can't add them to your mesh that way

raw goblet
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i see. is there any way at all to add it as a camera?

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i guess thats outside of the channels scope ๐Ÿ™‚

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so to summarise yank out the hue hubs and my aqara cameras and alarms?

sour shadow
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Yup

raw goblet
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thx @sour shadow

woeful urchin
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This also allows me, or more importantly, the other members of my household to continue to use cloud-hosted voice assistants to trigger the lights. At some point I'll move voice commands on-prem, but that isn't at the top of my priority list.

queen bay
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how am I supposed to set up a zigbee 3.0 USB dongle? I have it plugged in, I have ZHA configured in HA, I was able to get a sensor working for a little while but now it just shows as unavailable. How can I confirm the stick is working? I tried to get the sensor configured in the Smart Life app but it asks me to set up a gateway, but I don't have one?

sour shadow
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Is the stick in a USB 3.0 port (this is bad)?

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Is the stick on a USB extension cable (this is good)?

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How far from the stick is the sensor? Direct range is typically under 8 meters, and every obstruction (wall, door, human) cuts the range further.

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Also, did you check that your chosen Zigbee channel (15 by default with ZHA) is clear of WiFi interference?

queen bay
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I'll have to hunt for a USB extension cable and give that a shot. The stick and the sensor are about 5 meters from each other. It looks like the only available USB connections on the Blue are USB 3

sour shadow
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Putting it directly in the computer drops the range

queen bay
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I changed the wifi channel on my router for 2.4 Ghz to 11. What is a good way to find out if there is interference?

sour shadow
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Putting it in a USB 3.0 port drops the range (interference)

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The pinned messages have a lot of good information on all of this

queen bay
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Thank you, I will review those

keen rose
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I've got two sonoff zigbee outlets and a hue remote set up on my local zigbee network via the HubZ Smart Home Controller integration (zha?). I'm looking to temporarily set them up at a friend's place to see if this hardware will fit his use case, and before I head over I'd like to disassociate the hardware from my network to prevent issues adopting it at his place. Do I just need to delete the devices from the integration in HA, or is there anything else I need to do to inform the hardware it's homeless?

austere patio
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You can also delete them if you don't want to look at unavailable entities

keen rose
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Ah, okay. I assumed the plugs just showed up automatically when I did setup because they hadn't been connected to a controller before. Actually glad to hear I don't need to delete them, since I expect I'll be moving them back to my setup within a week or two. Thanks!

heavy crow
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Hi. I'm looking for something like the old Lightify Dimming Switch. A Zigbee switch that goes over a real switch.

sour shadow
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And ... if you're looking for advice you need to tell us your country

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No point in recommending stuff that's designed for (say) EU switches if you're in the USA

heavy crow
bronze prism
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could you use something non-zigbee? like something that can be flashed with tasmota?

heavy crow
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what is tasmota?

sour shadow
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Firmware for ESPs

obsidian sandalBOT
heavy crow
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I just setup HA with a new Sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle. No zwave and I'm avoiding stuff that uses my wifi network.

bronze prism
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fair enough.. in my mind one of the strengths of HA is that you can control a zigbee bulb with a wifi switch etc and mix/match various integrations

heavy crow
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I was interested in HA because it let me revive my old Lightify stuff that my Hue hub wouldn't talk to.

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It also revived some bulbs that I thought the Hue hub would talk to but ended up being shelved.

bronze prism
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of course there's pro to having more zigbee devices as you can build a better mesh, but i assume the switch and light is usually quite near by...(maybe not?)

heavy crow
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I doubt the mesh is having any trouble as-is.

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Other than if the family excessively turns lights off with the switches...

bronze prism
heavy crow
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Actually, I'm having troubles getting these switches that I do have (the lightify dimming switches, I have two old ones.) to do anything.

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I can get the "long-press/dim up or down" events to fire but I cannot get the on or off events.

heavy crow
jolly python
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Yo usinโ€˜ zha?

heavy crow
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Yes, I think.

jolly python
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It seems to be to have the same fingerprint as the centralite one, thatโ€˜s the reason it is showinโ€˜ as that

heavy crow
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Yeah, I suspect that they are very similar. They look the same in pictures except for some branding.

jolly python
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What is the on or off event you waitinโ€˜ for, looks not like it has those events, it does only have two buttons, right?

heavy crow
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Two buttons. It also has long press events.

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If I tap the top button or the bottom button, nothing happens.

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If I long tap the top or bottom buttons, I can get stuff to happen.

jolly python
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You have another one of these switches?

heavy crow
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I have two of them.

jolly python
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And both have the problem?

heavy crow
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The second one doesn't report any zha events, but I haven't tried making it do anything either.

jolly python
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Maybe itโ€˜s a bug, maybe the switches are trash

heavy crow
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They worked before I retired them.

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But that was on the Lightify hub.

jolly python
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Maybe they do not comply to the zigbee standard and need a qirk, but i did not read anything of it

heavy crow
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They do have quirks.

jolly python
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Then there could be a bug in them and reporting on git could help

heavy crow
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Yeah

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How do I edit them locally?

jolly python
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I do not use zha, so maybe some one else can help, but google could help also

heavy crow
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I'm only using zha because that's what the system defaulted me to. I only started this on Sunday.

mellow geode
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Just to confirm, you're listening for zha_event in the Home Assistant Dev Tools and some buttons show events, but others do not?

tropic depot
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Theyโ€™re the exact same deviceโ€ฆ I have like 10 of them. Either the device that isnโ€™t working fell off your network or it isnโ€™t paired correctly

heavy crow
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The one that only does the long presses is the most confusing to me.

mellow geode
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just try to pair the device again maybe

heavy crow
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That's what I'm about to do

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Ok, so I'm here with you too.

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Reconfiguring fails for the onoff option, but works for the LevelControl.

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@tropic depot What does reset mean? How do I do it?

tropic depot
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Pull the battery, hold the button down and while holding it reinsert the battery

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Then add devices again

heavy crow
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Ok

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I think I've got it so configure/reconfiguring completely fails. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tropic depot
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if you reset the device and re-join it you donโ€™t need to reconfigure it

heavy crow
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I mean when I do the "reconfigure" thing, all the things come back yellow.

tropic depot
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Right donโ€™t do that

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Pull the battery and reset it

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Once itโ€™s blinking blue

heavy crow
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I've done three different "resets"

tropic depot
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Go back to zha and click add devices

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Is the battery good?

heavy crow
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The first, I was pressing both buttons when I put the battery in. Behaved like it had been with the long holds and failure to reconfigure onoff.

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Battery is new.

heavy crow
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Second was with the "off" button held while putting the battery in, that resulted in the nothing working.

tropic depot
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You need to pull the battery from centralite devices to reset them

heavy crow
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The third was with the "on" button held while putting the battery in, that has gotten it working in the held button mode again.

heavy crow
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I can't get it to give me a solid red light.

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Maybe Orange is red.

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And if you hold it too long, it ignores you.

tropic depot
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As long as it starts blinking blue youโ€™re ready to pair it

heavy crow
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I think I have reset them a few times now, still will not let it configure the onoff configuration.

tropic depot
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Not sure what to say

heavy crow
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I'm thinking, "well, that stinks."

tropic depot
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๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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And I have a few actual centralite ones

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they all just work

woeful urchin
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@heavy crow I didn't read your exact needs, but you can make the IKEA Symfonisk sound remote function as a dimmer and you can click it to toggle the device on/off.

heavy crow
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I need smart light switches that protect regular light switches that hide under them.

woeful urchin
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ah, I see.

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Does it have to cover the old switch, or is removing the existing switch also an option?

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And the AC wires themselves are just twisted together.

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I've also got a couple of clear switch guards that prevent actual turning off of a mains switch with a hue remote mounted right beside it

heavy crow
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I would consider smart switches that send a signal and leave the power on.

molten linden
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You can mod aqara contact sensors to be actuated with a dumb switch, and leave power connected. Or pay for the hue product thatโ€™s marketed for this for 4x more

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I have both ๐Ÿ˜‚

woeful urchin
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I've got the Hue version...was not aware of the Aqara mod. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

molten linden
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Really any reed based contact sensor. Just put wires on either side of the magnetic reed and hook them to the switch. I remove the reed to make it cleaner.

woeful urchin
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I've got such a mixture of different smart switches and bulbs, if I could start over I would probably just do all Lutron switches...only because the TP-Link dimmer switches are terrible.

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But the TP-Link simple on/off ones are great.

molten linden
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I started home automation with some hue bulbs and some Lutron pico remotes as switches (with the staples connect hub) that went belly up and I got into HA and then a lutron hub to keep my pico remotes connected

woeful urchin
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Pico remotes work well for controlling Sonos as well.

median talon
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I am looking at buying SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus. Will I need to flash it?

sour shadow
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It'll probably come with old firmware, you'll want to flash it

median talon
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Alright, thanks

cobalt dew
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it looks pretty easy to do then you also know its clean

mellow solar
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Hey, I have an Aqara smart switch, how do I make it so that pressing the button just sends a zigbee message and doesn't actually switch the relay?

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I'm using ZHA

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All I see in HA is the on_off entity which lets met switch the relay

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Or see the relay state

sour shadow
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What's the model number of that switch?

mellow solar
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WS-USC01

raw goblet
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hi all ๐Ÿ™‚ so finished my transition of more then 60 devices to ZHA. all works well apart from the phillips hue V2 switches/dimmers.

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i have the V1 version (RWL021) who seem to work well and show there is a sensor

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but with V2 (RWL022) there are no entities at all

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what am i missing ๐Ÿ˜„

mellow geode
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There should be a battery entity. For button presses, listen to zha_event

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Otherwise, can you upload the device signature to https://dpaste.org and send the link here?

raw goblet
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thx @mellow geode ! very new so trying to follow aloing ๐Ÿ™‚

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let me paste to dpaste

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one sec

mellow geode
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I also have both the RWL021 + RWL022 and they seem to work fine here. Wondering if it just didnโ€™t pair correctly or if thereโ€™s a new hardware/software revision that somehow isnโ€™t compatible yet

raw goblet
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all my V1 seems to appear fine and all my V2 (i have 6) have the same issue with no entities

mellow geode
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Okay, it did apply the correct quirk (last row). Thatโ€™s good

raw goblet
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i may be missing something obvious as i am a neewb ;0

mellow geode
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What entities do you expect to have? IIRC, the dimmers shouldnโ€™t have any entities other than battery

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But you can use device automations for triggers

raw goblet
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hmmm @mellow geode ahh i see. the V1 has a sensor entity

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maybe thats what threw me off

mellow geode
mellow geode
raw goblet
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i can see V1 in automations and couldnt see V2

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so @mellow geode , to program the keys on these dimmers i create an automation right?

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just to be sure im doing the right thing

mellow geode
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Yeah, that should work

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Creating a new empty automation and then choosing device -> dimmer as the trigger. Then you should be able to select which button does what

raw goblet
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yeah thought so. ok let me try and report back. really appreciate the help @mellow geode !

mellow geode
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There are also Home Assistant automation blueprints available (not sure if thereโ€™s one for the new dimmer with ZHA though).

But creating from empty automations should also work fine

raw goblet
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cool trying now

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btw i know this isnt the proper channel to ask but is it valid to do this automation in nod-red (for the switches)?

mellow geode
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Not using Node-RED myself, but I think that should also work

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Itโ€™s possible you need to listen for zha_event then, since Iโ€™m not sure the device triggers are available in NodeRED

raw goblet
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ok no worries just curious. so seems like i can see the V2 now in the automation (i could have sworn it didn't appear before :))

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i guess the fact that V1 had entities threw me off ๐Ÿ˜„

mellow geode
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Yeah, Iโ€™m not sure why it even has one now. You can probably ignore/disable it

raw goblet
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@mellow geode may i bother you to inquire how you name the Hue dimmers?

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its not a light or sensor so kinds lost ๐Ÿ˜„

mellow geode
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Settings -> Integrations -> ZigBee Home Automation -> Devices -> select your dimmer and there should be an edit button next to the name

raw goblet
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right, i mean more the naming scheme sorry ๐Ÿ˜„

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do you call it a switch, a dimmer etc ๐Ÿ™‚

mellow geode
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Ah, uh

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I mostly name it something with dimmer, as switches rather seem to refer to actual wall switches (with relays) (and these dimmers are basically remotes)

raw goblet
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exactly my thoughts ok cool thx again!

heavy crow
mellow solar
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I bought mine from cloudfree and it came pre flashed

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Great shop

odd mango
#

hi. does localTuya support zigbee devices?

sour shadow
odd mango
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so there is no hope for tuya zigbee devices?

sour shadow
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Sure there is

obsidian sandalBOT
#

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

sour shadow
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โ˜๏ธ

odd mango
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I have added it to zda and there are no entities

sour shadow
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"it"?

odd mango
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zha*

sour shadow
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What it?

odd mango
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a new radar presence detector

sour shadow
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Tuya's Zigbee range is even more of a shit show than their WiFi devices. Odds are good that:

  1. It's ignoring all the Zigbee standards so it'll need a quirk
  2. Too new and nobody has written a quirk for it yet
odd mango
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how do I do it myself?

mellow geode
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Please upload your device signature to https://dpaste.org/ and send the link here -- just wanna see if the device is known

odd mango
sour shadow
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That's not the device signature ๐Ÿ˜„

odd mango
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bfeccdb289fd73ffd7loo6

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this one I think

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ok, how do I extract the signature :))

mellow geode
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Uh, go to Settings -> Integrations -> ZHA -> Devices -> click on your device -> click on Zigbee device signature and paste the content to https://dpaste.org

odd mango
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is this it?

mellow geode
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no -- is the device still added to ZHA?

odd mango
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moved it on tuya hub

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one moment

mellow geode
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yep, that's it. one moment

odd mango
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hm

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is it possible to run both zha and zigbee2mqtt?

sour shadow
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Not with one stick

odd mango
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perhaps it could be ported more easily than from scratch?

odd mango
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I could probably pay some symbolic amount to get this working

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I do believe this sensor could change the game though

thick plover
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any ideas on issues trying to pair a zigbee device to z2m (philips hue plug) and it continually coming up as not supported?

sour shadow
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You're on Zigbee2MQTT 1.25.x and not stuck on 1.18.1?

thick plover
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checking that now...

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1.22.1

mellow geode
sour shadow
# thick plover 1.22.1

You can check the release notes and see when it was added, quite possibly after 1.22.1

thick plover
mellow geode
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What's the Zigbee model name of that Hue plug?

thick plover
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tis this oe

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one

mellow geode
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Is it reporting itself as LOM005 somewhere?

thick plover
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LOM011

mellow geode
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lmao really

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well, someone else already did the work then. I just added the name to a signature that looked similar

odd mango
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I don't get all of configuration sliders, but detection works

mellow geode
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well, that's something

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I'll create a PR with that simple change later, so at least basic functionality is available in some later Home Assistant version (without needing to use a custom quirk)

odd mango
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(y)

mellow geode
thick plover
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ah ok. now for the embarassing question, how do I do that? its been ages since I have touched this stuff. i install via a docker compose file

mellow geode
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uh, I'm not using Z2M myself. Are you running Home Assistant OS with the addon installed?

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ah nvm

thick plover
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haha yeah on a separate device

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i will go thru my chat history, someone helped me many moons ago

mellow geode
mighty river
#

Hi all. I need litle help. I have fan that is turned on by automations in HA when humidity in bathroom reach certain level. but the same fan can be turned on by switch manualy. I want this fan turned off automatically even if my HA server is down. is there any zigbee module that supports timers by itself.

thick plover
sour shadow
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Replace your current version string with :latest-dev

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For example,

    image: koenkk/zigbee2mqtt:lastest-dev
thick plover
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legend, thanks tink

sour shadow
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It's a standard approach for all Docker images, though what latest means varies a lot

thorny cargo
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So after a few days of rebuilding my zigbee network, and changing channels, it does seem to be running much better, so thanks for all the advice. However, I still have one Aqara motion sensor that keeps going unavailable. The others are fine, but after a day or so, this one just stops working. Other than changing the battery, do I have any other avenues to explore?

bronze prism
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others seem to have better luck than i do with them..

obsidian sandalBOT
drifting whale
# obsidian sandal

I'm running HA in a docker container, and I've got ZHA set up using the conbee II. For some reason, the conbee keeps timing out. I tried using the conbee II outside of home assistant and it works. Anybody else seen this before? I was able to fix it last time this happened but I don't remember what I did...

austere patio
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Have you tried physically unplugging and plugging the Conbee back in, and then restarting the container?

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The timeout error is for the very first command sent to the Conbee so the serial port just isn't functional

sour shadow
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Also make sure it's on a USB extension cable

crimson dust
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I'm using ZHA and want to update firmware of an IKEA lamp... I guess its not as easy as with Zigbee2MQTT with one button right? I read some guide and did as they said with the config. And then they said go to Config > Integrations > ZHA > Device > OTA Cluster > image_notify but that path doesnt exist. Is there some updated guide on how to update a decive in ZHA?

drifting whale
drifting whale
crimson dust
crimson dust
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Yes I have this:

zha:
zigpy_config:
ota:
ikea_provider: true

But still not updated the lamp

austere patio
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You will have to call the zha.issue_zigbee_cluster_command service to ask the lamp to ask for a new update

drifting whale
crimson dust
austere patio
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You just add the IEEE address of your device and that's it

crimson dust
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Oh ok!

austere patio
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The device then asks ZHA for a new image, ZHA asks IKEA, and you get the latest

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There's unfortunately no progress outside of the debug log so you'll just see the light/relay flash in like 10 minutes when it's done

crimson dust
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Oh ok! It seems hoever that it wants more info. I get a long error code in the bottom

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Failed to call service zha.issue_zigbee_cluster_command. required key not provided @ data['cluster_id']. Got None required key not provided @ data['command']. Got None required key not provided @ data['command_type']. Got None required key not provided @ data['endpoint_id']. Got None

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yaml mode is:

service: zha.issue_zigbee_cluster_command
data:
ieee: 00:3c:84:ff:fe:1a:7c:9f

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Maybe easier to just go over to Zigbee2MQTT where it tells you when there is a firmware available and you just press a button? ๐Ÿ˜›

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I have 15 devices... but I guess the transit goes faster than to hack my way through to get ZHA to update one device's firmware? hehe

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But if you find a solution please tell me ๐Ÿ™‚

last ruin
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Migrating from deCONZ is just as hard going to ZHA as Zigbee2MQTT?

crimson dust
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I guess if you name you devices exact the same they should fit into all automations etc right?

jolly python
crimson dust
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but wont the name be " light.XXX_XXX " in both?

jolly python
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lights, maybe, switches clearly not

crimson dust
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so my theory is.. if I dont touch anything in my automations.. just switch from ZHA to ZigbeeMQTT and name my 15 devices the same.. my automation wont notice anything? ๐Ÿ˜›

jolly python
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the switches wont work any longer

crimson dust
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Hm dont have any switches actually, just lights, plugs, door magnets etc

jolly python
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Do it or die tryin'

drifting whale
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I guess my HA container is just cursed. I can communicate with the conbee from inside the container manually using zigpy, but HA keeps timing out with the same error.

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is there a way to see what file ZHA is reading/writing to to communicate with the hardware?

austere patio
crimson dust
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Do I need the debugg loggin to see how the update going?

austere patio
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Yep

crimson dust
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Ok cool

drifting whale
austere patio
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Anything dealing with the radio is 100% in that log file once you enable logging for zigpy and zigpy_deconz. It may not log the full device path when connecting but it will log all serial traffic

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But from the error message, you'll likely just see it connect to the port, send data, and then time out when the coordinator doesn't send anything back

drifting whale
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I do see that, but i wanted to verify that it was using the correct device path

crimson dust
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Ok I added logging in the yaml. But where do I actually see the logg it self?

austere patio
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The log file is /config/home-assistant.log. It's very verbose.

austere patio
crimson dust
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Is there a way with ZHA to get notice when there is a new update avalible?

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to any of your devices

austere patio
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Not at the moment

crimson dust
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okok

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the logg was very intense.. hehe

austere patio
crimson dust
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Oh ok

drifting whale
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@austere patio I fixed it by unplugging my valve index

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

austere patio
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Was ZHA (or the Docker container) not configured to use the /dev/serial/by-id/ symlink?

drifting whale
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I guess not. I have no idea where to check

median dome
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Hi! Fast question. If i have for ex.: one light bulb, and put two gang switch (connect L1 for that bulb) in HA i will be able to operate with second button for whatever i want correct?

balmy bough
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hello, I bought a new sonoff zigbee USB stick and linked up all my devices. It works well so far, then I learnt about firmware updates. Is there any key advantages of updating, or I can leave it as it is if everything is working fine?

austere patio
raw goblet
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Hi again all. so i finally have my ZHA up and running and thx to @mellow geode kind help have 20 dimmer hue switches working (both V1 and V2) and buttons configured via Home assistant automations. But..out 3 of them (v1) just wont launch automations

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i have added them (and even reset and re-added them) in Home assistant via ZHA. they show up as the rest of the V1 buttons, but they just wont launch any automation when any button is pressed

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How does one go on debugging this, im am kind of clueless on this ๐Ÿ™‚ any help would be highly appreciated!

fair mountain
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anyone have a LinkTap G1S? They say "proprietary" zigbee, I'm looking for a water valve that works with my 3/4 Garden hose ..

fair mountain
raw goblet
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@fair mountain sweet thats cool

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so the buttons do seem to fire

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so whats the next step then to debug why these dont work in automations?

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ok managed to fix 2 out of 3

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the last one does appear under devices but dosent seem to be sending events

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sows exactly like the rest of the devices and has 100% battery..weird ๐Ÿ˜„

short mesa
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Jesus. Spent hours trying to get Mosquitto and Z2M installed and running with no luck

tired sage
#

915 MHz Zigbee Australia and US. In Australia and US Zigbee is supposed to use 915 MHz, which seems like a good thing to me - keeping away from crowded 2.4GHz wifi. But, I've found this in the "diagnostics" download for my Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 dongle. frequency_band=<FrequencyBand.Freq2400MHz: 8> So I am surmising that I'm using 2.4GHz. Can anyone tell me how I can set this?

sleek girder
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zigbee2mqtt worth it?

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does anyone have a good guide on migrating from a standard zigbee config over to zigbee2mqtt?

austere patio
median dome
raw goblet
#

Hi all, having tons of issues with hue motion sensors (SML001) with ZHA. they worked great with the phillips hub, but now its a mixed bag.. ๐Ÿ™‚

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some of then work fine, sone have serious lags and some plain dont detect motion ๐Ÿ™‚

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anyone has experience working with these?

mellow geode
mellow geode
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The occupancy entity is the one you want. (You can even change it to "show as motion" in Home Assistant, so itโ€™ll get the proper icon)

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The sensors are the fastest for me. Iโ€™d recommend to pair them again perhaps if they donโ€™t work correctly. But I didnโ€™t have any issues

wide harness
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Hello! I am developing a Zigbee thermostat and currently adapting it to ZHA. After the configuration, a window appears about the successful addition, where the icons show my clusters. But for some reason, there are two exclamation points in the list with the Null description. I don't see any strange in the list of clusters. And my device is working correctly. But this little thing haunts me. How to fix this? Maybe somewhere this error was logged?

mellow geode
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You can see the entities when opening the device page

tropic depot
wide harness
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Thanks, @mellow geode and @tropic depot! Yes, you are right, they are lqi and rssi. I just need to figure out how to turn them on or remove

mellow geode
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Theyโ€™re disabled in Home Assistant by default. You can turn them on using the UI

wide harness
mellow geode
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That exclamation mark is there for all devices at the moment

short mesa
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Attempting to install mosquitto via docker

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And when it attempts to open the listen socket on 1883 I get "Address not available"

sour shadow
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On the host try

sudo netstat -pant | grep 1883
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There's also

sudo ss -pt | grep 1883
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I've seen more than one person find out they've already got Mosquitto running

short mesa
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So the result is entries tcp and tcp6

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Im assuming 0.0.0.0 means local host

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They say listen and then 401 or 406/docker-proxy

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As well, if I try docker container ls all I get is HA

sour shadow
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Yeah, looks like something else is using port 1883 then

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Check your Docker containers to see if any have explicitly listed port 1883

short mesa
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Well the only other docker container I have is HA Container

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And the only other things running on ny device are Pihole and Plex MedianServer

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Not sure about pihole, but I connect to Plex via localhost:32400

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Tempted to just use ZHA. I know Z2M is better in a lot of ways, but damn is has this been frustrating just to get a mqtt broker going

sour shadow
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Check that you don't have any stopped containers that have that port mapped

short mesa
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Not sure how to do that

sour shadow
#
sudo docker ps -a
``` from memory
short mesa
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Hmm. Yeah only container with mapped ports is the mosquitto container that gave me the address not available error 14 minutes ago

short mesa
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Going to just put a fresh image on the Pi, and start with only trying to install Mosquitto and Z2M

robust forum
#

What is a decent LQI and what is considered too low and needs an additional router? Also, how far away are you able to space your Zigbee routers (I'm using the Sonoff dongle reflashed)?

sour shadow
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LQI isn't a universal measurement - different devices report it differently. I have devices that are just fine with an LQI as low as the teens

robust forum
#

What is a reasonable distance between a router and a device that you've found to work reliably both in line of sight and walls in between?

sour shadow
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It varies, a lot. I've got working ranges of everything from under 2 meters to 12 meters

robust forum
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Ok, thanks. I was going by the stated (in the Zigbee wikipedia) of 10 to 100 meters. 2 to 12 meters makes a difference in planning out the number of routers I need.

sour shadow
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Well, the official ranges are always in perfect conditions

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No obstructions, no interference, everything set up just so

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Reality says 6 to 8 meters is pretty typical of what you can expect, unless your house is all stone/brick walls when it'll be less

robust forum
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Yeah, I have a hollow block concrete wall between my house and my garage. I found out the hard way that zigbee range gets drastically reduced by that!

short mesa
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Well shit. Even with a fresh RPi image I get the address not available message

sour shadow
#

What does your Docker Compose file look like?

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There's clearly something you're doing that's causing this, it's just a matter of finding out what

short mesa
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So I am following that guide through step 5

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

sour shadow
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Use one of those, share your Docker Compose file

short mesa
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Then I create a folder for Mosquitto, and run the following:
docker run -it --name mosquitto1 -p 1883:1883 eclipse-mosquitto

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well apparently I cant even properly format a fucking discord message

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There we go

sour shadow
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Urgh, command line... ๐Ÿ˜›

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Ignoring that you've not mapped any volumes, what's the error you get?

short mesa
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Is there a different install method you would suggest?

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And you mention mapping volumes, excuse my ignorance but what does that mean or what is the significance?

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I would say I wish there was a guide for this, but from what I have found is that there are too many guides, all with varying instructions

sour shadow
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Compose file... always compose files

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(or wherever you're keeping the data)

short mesa
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Awesome. I will start there!

vernal moth
#

I have a radio I bought from tubes zb store a whole back, what kind of computer/raspberry pi should I have to run it with ZigBee2mqtt

sour shadow
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Anything better than a Pi2

vernal moth
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Pi3 should be fine then?

sour shadow
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It's better than a Pi2... so yes

vernal moth
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Alrighty

obsidian sandalBOT
short mesa
#

Sorry, not sure if there is a better way to post that

sour shadow
short mesa
#

But essentially I did a fresh Pi Image with the only thing installed being Pi Hole. I then installed docker and docker-compose based on the guide I shared earlier. I then created the docker-compose.yml in a directory for mosquitto. I then ran docker-compose up from said directory and got the same error

sour shadow
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Mosquitto 2.0 binds to the loopback interface if you don't provide a listener configuration. That loopback interface probably isn't available to your docker container, so it fails. If you add listener 1883 to your configuration it will start working happily again - but note that you also need to configure some form of authentication, or set allow_anonymous true if you don't want clients to have to authenticate.

short mesa
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Yeah I about give up at this point. From what I have read, the default mosquitto config should populate, but I dont see shit in the directory I ran my compose from

sour shadow
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So... create it?

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See the guide I keep linking to

short mesa
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Even when I manually populated config/mosquitto.conf and had "listener 1883" I got the same issue

sour shadow
#

Did you map the volume though?

short mesa
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That was one of the first things I tried yesterday

sour shadow
#

Your command line never mapped anything more than a port

short mesa
#

And again, not sure what mapping the volume entails

sour shadow
#

Click that link

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Read the article, and my message

rough shadow
#

So I have the SONOFF Zigbee dongle I upgraded it just fine to the newest firmware. Flashed another one with the router firmware but when I click the permit all it does not find it anyone have any suggestions?

final pivot
#

Hey guys just a quesion regarding Linus tech tips latest outburst of a company not providing firmwares to upload there devices outside there hub, do phillips hue provide firmware updates? - I recall deconz can update hue stuff, not sure been a while

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I don't think they can and don't really understand his outburst as I'd thought this is the same for most smarthome stuff, as Hue don't support there stuff working with other stuff, it just does because of the protocol

final pivot
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Philips Hue devices (not every firmware is made available by them)

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So not exactly that different to most of the industry then

mellow geode
#

Youโ€™ll find all Hue firmware files in the zigbee-ota repo (which is used by Z2M)

wide harness
#

How can I integrate my converter for ZHA? In Z2M it was possible by external_converters option in the configuration file. I don't see that option here

mellow geode
tropic depot
wide harness
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Thanks! I found documentation. All that remains now is to program the converter ๐Ÿ™‚

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My device complies with the standard. But there are several standard attributes that ZHA does not support, and well as my device has one custom attributes. And I'm need to write the converter. It's still nicer than in Z2M, where you have to write everything. Where no basic converters

copper mountain
#

Hi everyone, regarding adding Zigbee devices to HA. I know it's easier to just start over and rebind everything but is there a way of joining an existing network rather than starting over?

final pivot
mellow geode
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Hue doesnโ€™t provide them voluntarily ๐Ÿ˜‰

final pivot
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No doubt, you know how there hijacked?

sour shadow
spice meteor
#

I have a weid behaviour with my zigbee lamps in ZHA. I have them on at a specific brighness. Normally I can control them properly with IKEA dimmer switches. But if I turn them off and then press the off button again, they are "stuck" off and I have to press on twice and then they only come on with minimal brightness. Is that some normal ZigBee lamp behaviour or is it something with my automation/connection between lamps and switches.

wide harness
#

@tropic depot
I noticed that ZHA is not able to work with a device if it does not have out clusters. It seems that this is not according to the standard and is not correct. I started both someone else's device and my thermostat, where there are no out clusters, and they have neither icons nor entities, although the clusters in the list are displayed correctly. How so? Is this a ZHA bug?

tropic depot
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Thatโ€™s not trueโ€ฆ

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Out clusters are not mandatory

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Youโ€™re more than welcome to dm me details and Iโ€™ll help as I have time

wide harness
#

Now, after the next reconnection of the device, entities suddenly appeared. Yes, there are still no icons, but ... I donโ€™t understand anything.

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I tried to add a temperature sensor again, it was not added, but it appeared in the list, and ZHA stopped working

tropic depot
#

๐Ÿค”

copper mountain
sour shadow
#

You said:

is there a way of joining an existing network
Which implies you have an existing Zigbee mesh

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It sounds like you may have an Aqara hub?

copper mountain
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Sorry I maybe using an incorrect term. The Cameras act as hubs that you can attach other sensors to, however they also have a hub which is a zigbee to ethernet (which I don't have). I have a ConBee II usb

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which is on the HA RPi so that's what I would like to use to talk to the sensors/cameras if possible

sour shadow
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Ok, so you don't currently have an existing network then...?

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So, it's time to start by building one, and that means you need Zigbee routers as well as those sensors

copper mountain
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k sounds like I misunderstood what the ConBee II would do for me. I wanted a bridge between HA and Zigbee

sour shadow
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That's what the ConBee will do

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Along with some software, either ZHA, Zigbee2MQTT, or deCONZ

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The ConBee is a coordinator - the controller of the mesh. Zigbee meshes have one coordinator, and only one.

copper mountain
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Yeah I knew the whole "mesh" vs. "network" diff ... I thought that the two cameras are the coordinators each with its own "mesh".

sour shadow
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Possibly, but you can't use the ConBee with the mesh they create

copper mountain
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ok that's what was my miunderstanding. I thought you could just "join" those mesh networks using ConBee.

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Thank you for clarifying. So my question becomes if I do have these aqara meshes, is there software or hardware that'll let me use the existing mesh?

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Or do I need to bite the bullet and just rejoin everything to the ConBee?

austere patio
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It's technically possible to take over the Aqara hub's mesh but you'll likely spend the same amount of time doing it as you would just rejoining every device.

copper mountain
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There are a lot of devices... ~18 or so

sour shadow
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That's not a lot TBH

copper mountain
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I also like being able to use the aqara hub while remote without VPN.

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no it isn't a lot ... just a pain

sour shadow
copper mountain
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ty, rgr on both of those ... really watch out for interference .

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I'm tempted to switch to zigbee2mqtt and use a mqtt server to watch out for the msgs rather joining the mesh.

sour shadow
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Well, Zigbee2MQTT still requires you to join your devices to the coordinator/mesh

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It's not like it magically allows you to MITM the existing Zigbee devices

copper mountain
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oh ... ok another bad assumption ๐Ÿ™‚

tropic depot
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All clusters are output clusters

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Essentially it was implemented like it was a remote and not a sensor

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make a quirk, and in the replacement include all the clusters that are defined as output clusters in the input cluster list instead

wide harness
tropic depot
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Not too sure what that link isโ€ฆ look at your diagnostic file

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The device reports all clusters are out clusters

wide harness
tropic depot
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You can add a quirk locally too to reverse it

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The author is also welcome to dm me here

wide harness
tropic depot
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Cool

wide harness
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I myself ignored ZHA until one of my colleagues reminded me about you

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Expanding support out of the box ๐Ÿ™‚

uneven dew
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can i migrate a backup of my HA from x86 to arm? i am interested mainly in the entities and my zigbee network, not the addones.

uneven dew
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yep. easy peasy. looks like i can just copy the config folder .

shy summit
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I just bought some Ikea ZigBee devices. But the shortcut and on/off button seem to be not configured correctly using ZHA. The button state and sometimes the battery state is missing. Any experiences with that?

sour shadow
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With ZHA you only get events for buttons, not button states

quartz flume
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So i have a button with z2m, which has 3 kind of actions press, two press and long press, it also sees presence, luminance and temp.

But it always had a problem which if i press it it keeps firing the action for almos 30 seconds, i never understood why, and never got to use it as a button because of it, there`s a why to modify it in homeassistant, z2m, or something else?

hearty breach
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This command operates a bioclimatic pergola with Somfy engine and respective lighting (LED strip). I wanted to integrate it into HA, but I don't know if any more equipment is needed or if I can use it directly with a Zigbee pen (I think the engines and this command speak zigbee). If anyone wants to give tips on where to start, I'm really at zero.

hearty breach
shy summit
wide prism
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Did anyone's zigbee and zwave integrations stop working today during their cloud maintenance? Cloud is back up but my zigbee and zwave are still not working

robust forum
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How do you force the zigbee network to reconfigure itself after you've moved a sensor from one area to another? I have multiple routers now set up with the coordinator. I'm just moving a temperature sensor from one section (where it is close to the coordinator) to another part of the house (where another router is closer).

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Or am I stuck resetting and re-pairing?

twilit narwhal
white aurora
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Does anyone know the update rate of the SNZB-02?

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Temp/Humidity

austere patio
# white aurora Does anyone know the update rate of the SNZB-02?

Normal Zigbee sensors don't really have fixed update intervals, the integration sets up attribute reporting. It's basically "if the sensor value changes by at least X, report it at most once every Y seconds, but report no matter what at least once every Z seconds". Those three numbers depend on the integration you're using.

white aurora
austere patio
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I think Z2M lets you configure attribute reporting

white aurora
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Force it to every 15min

faint zephyr
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What is a good website/store to buy ZigBee devices from ?

bronze prism
thick plover
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has anyone noticed the toggle switch disappearing from their zigbee2mqtt groups (like a group of lights exposed as a group from z2m to HA) and replaced with just an mdi:flash and mdi:flash-off icon?

tepid mauve
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Hey, since i cant find it anywhere, is it possible to create groups of other groups in zigbee2mqtt?

twin cargo
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Hi! I've got myself a new TubesZB POE Coordinator and router. I am currently using a Sonoff ZB Bridge with Tasmota on ZHA with 80+ devices. Are there any good tutorials out there on how to move to the Tubes Coordinator while retaining my devices in ZHA? Thanks!

faint zephyr
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Is it absolutely needed to install the zigbee2mqtt addon in home assistant for it to work watched 4 movies and they all use the addon or is it preferred? Else I need to make a VM to run ha so I can use add-ons

sour shadow
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What?

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You need to install Zigbee2MQTT to use Zigbee2MQTT. You don't need the add-on any more than you need any add-on (which is to say, not at all)

faint zephyr
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@sour shadow good to know I don't need the addon

lean echo
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does anyone have the Ikea motion sensor? I can see in z2m docs that you can set the occupancy_timeout to any value greater than 0, but when I look online everyone says it's fixed to 3 minutes... will that work like the aqara sensors that even if you can set it to 0 it will go for a deep sleep 3 minutes anyway?

nova flint
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I don't know if 0 does anything, but any non-zero value works fine for me. I've got all 3 of mine on a 10 second timeout and they work just fine.

lean echo
nova flint
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Once they stop reporting motion, they'll sleep for 10 seconds before reporting again to conserve battery. Even if motion happens during that time

lean echo
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Ok, so they really sleep for the time you set with zigbee. That's awesome!

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Anything you would complain about them? I think I'll buy one and will compare with the aqara, but the fact that I don't need to do any hardware hack its already a really big plus

austere patio
nova flint
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A bit pricey ๐Ÿ˜„

lean echo
nova flint
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They lasted a few weeks with 3sec timeout, been almost a month now on fresh batteries with 10s timeout and plenty left still

woven trench
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Is it just me or have others had issues with zha not loading/working at all ever since 2022.4.7? I just tried 2022.6 and STILL no go.

mellow geode
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Anything in the logs?

woven trench
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logs say nothing other than the usual startup messages.

austere patio
woven trench
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no errors other that the Devices&Services block says: "Failed to load, see logs"

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okay, modified my configuration.yaml and have restarted....

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how to you "post a link to the log"?

austere patio
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You can either DM it to me or upload it somewhere and post a link to it

obsidian sandalBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

woven trench
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do you want the log of zha from after the upgrade when it fails or the current one (2022.4.7) running?

austere patio
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All logs are good

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Though the one where it's running isn't going to show why it fails ๐Ÿ˜†

woven trench
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Well... you just got it. ๐Ÿ™‚ I will now upgrade to 2022.6 and send you a new log. This will take about 10 minutes.

tepid mauve
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Hey, since i cant find it anywhere, is it possible to create groups of other groups in zigbee2mqtt? The endpoint file dis blank. What exactly is an endpoint?

sour shadow
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AFAIK no

agile fiber
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whats a good zigbee motion sensor that i can link to home assistant with included temp sensor and works with Zigbee2MQTT

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the hue ones are hella expensive

sour shadow
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Get a separate temperature sensor

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The Aqara motion sensor is ok - the newer Zigbee 3.0 ones are better

agile fiber
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i dont need a hub for aqara?

sour shadow
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TL/DR: blobcsignno

agile fiber
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nice

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thx

woven trench
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new log fille sent @austere patio

austere patio