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near echo
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So that we could make end devices from these dongles

crude otter
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mine is the 3.0 Dongle Plus

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and its been a great bit of kit.. except for when it corrupted NVRAM

near echo
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Yes thats the only new one ;-)

crude otter
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but restoring from a backup sorted that out

fickle coral
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ooh the zigbeee

near echo
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Soon it's gonna be ooh the matter

ocean cloak
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I have it on my desk so it does trigger a lot, maybe that's why? Or the batteries were already low when it arrived

solid inlet
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Hi guys. Upgraded to Zigbee2Mqtt v 1.25.1-1 yesterday and worked fine. Now I find the web UI won't load, and find nothing unusual in the logs. I have restarted Home Assistant. What should I try next?

sour shadow
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Others have reported that problem with the add-on

solid inlet
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Oh! Sorry, but thanks!

sour shadow
ocean cloak
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Oh phew thought it was just me

ocean cloak
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Could someone suggest a smart plug that has energy monitoring that can act as a router?

I have a bunch of Sonoff S31's flashed with Tasmota and they're great, but the Zigbee equivalents (S31 Lite) don't support energy monitoring.

sour shadow
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Where in the world are you?

ocean cloak
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US

molten linden
heavy latch
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Can anyone help me bind philips hue occupancy sensor to a bulb? Z2M I already added bulb to group, and now I'm stuck

tropic depot
heavy latch
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attempts to unbind from Coordinator only unbinds "Temperature"

wary harbor
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i'm using zha with a tubeszb coordinator and trying out a couple of ikea devices, it looks very limited, e.g. can't find a way to change bulb color temp, only on/off available. And I'm not seeing entities for the 5-button remote - am I missing something or should I switch to zigbee2mqtt ? any ideas?

ocean cloak
molten linden
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Yes

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@ocean cloak ^

ocean cloak
# molten linden Yes

Thanks. Checking them out. Btw my zigbee coordinator is still going strong without an issue for like half a year now!

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Why do you like those smart plugs in particular?

molten linden
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I have 6 I think online. They never fall off, are solid routers, and you get energy monitoring. I think some one said that had issues with a high startup current that even though they are rated for 15 Amps they didn’t handle it well.

ocean cloak
mighty lion
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Hi, im using ZHA with Conbee 2 and it worked perfectly until yesterday. now i cannot access any of the childs of "Sideboard" anymore

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"Sideboard" and "Tuya Schalter" works tho

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any ideas?

maiden axle
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Since yesterday's Zigbee2MQTT update to version 1.25.1-1 the frontend is not working anymore in the HA Android app while on desktop browser it's working though. On Z2M 1.25.1-0 everything was working fine. Anyone else facing this problem?

sour shadow
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Clear the browser caches, it's a known issue

maiden axle
sour shadow
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No idea TBH

maiden axle
wraith elm
odd mango
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I have replaced my zigbee stick. How do I change the device? Without removing the integration?

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it does not appear to offer any configuration

uneven ruin
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am i the only one who's experiencing worse performance with the new P2 motion sensor?

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maybe I have a dud

uneven ruin
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it should still retain names IIRC

odd mango
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this also resets all their names

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already figured out how to restore them

uneven ruin
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I reinstalled ZHA and it still remembered 5 devices that I didn't manually delete

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which is really annoying because I can't remove them now

odd mango
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zha is really bad at user interface

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I mean really.

tropic depot
uneven ruin
tropic depot
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you can remove the devices using the remove service in dev tools

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just supply the IEEE from the device card

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that will do it too

uneven ruin
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I have a peanut which is the only zigbee plug with power monitoring that fits in a weird outlet box, but it doesn't like my z2m channel which means I didn't have a sensor to tell me if the projector is on or not

uneven ruin
wary harbor
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i'm using zha with a tubeszb coordinator and trying out a couple of ikea devices, it looks very limited, e.g. can't find a way to change bulb color temp, only on/off available. And I'm not seeing entities for the 5-button remote - am I missing something or should I switch to zigbee2mqtt ? any ideas?

tropic depot
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remotes don't have entities

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they fire events

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we definitely support color temp... what is the model of the bulb?

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should look like that in HA if the bulb reports that it supports temp

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christ that image is way larger than I expected

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@wary harbor ^^^^

wary harbor
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@tropic depot all I can do is on/off as you can see

steep tide
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Hi everyone. I just purchased a Zigbee light from LIDL and it came with this remote. The light itself paired nicely using ZHA and is working as expected. The remote however, is not pairing whatsoever. Yes, I pressed both buttons to enter pairing mode, but ZHA didn't find anything. Any suggestions?

lilac wharf
tropic depot
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Yeah i worked through it with them in a DM

mental hedge
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I use z2m
I've got a sonoff zigbee 3.0 plus dongle to replace my broken cc2531 adapter.
On blackadder, I read I don't have to re-pair everything if I set the ieee address of the new stick to the current one.
It's not showing up in the TI smartrf flash programmer 2 though, and I don't see any errors in device manager.
How can I resolve this?

mental hedge
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With some further rebooting to fully activate the windows update / driver, I now see "request for device descriptor failed" in device manager :/

jolly python
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Have you followed that?

storm palm
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I add a new switch but it shows up as unknown. How do I tell ZHA this is a switch?

mental hedge
storm palm
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I remove the device, add it back and now it does not show unknown but the only entity it has is identify

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There is no on/off entity, How can I add that manually to a zigbee device?

mental hedge
austere patio
storm palm
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It is a plug

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It has a relay inside that should be controllable

austere patio
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What's the Zigbee manufacturer and model name?

storm palm
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It shows up as eWeLink SA-003-Zigbee

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It's just a cheap generic plug

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Again I just want to know what is the easy to to simply manually add on/off entity to a device

austere patio
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Can you post the Zigbee device signature JSON?

storm palm
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In the clusters I can see it has in signature 0x0006 which should be on/off

obsidian sandalBOT
austere patio
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That looks normal to me. Can you upload the ZHA diagnostics for that device as well?

storm palm
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I think I got it working with manage clusters, now I see the on/off control

austere patio
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That's odd. If it has an OnOff input cluster, ZHA should create an entity for it

storm palm
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I think it's an issue with the signal even if LQI and RSSI are decent

austere patio
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Are you using a Conbee or an EZSP radio?

storm palm
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EZSP

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Ok I think the device just needed a power cycle

austere patio
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I wouldn't think "real" link quality would have an impact once the device's basic information is read out, but if the entity now exists then it's not really a problem that can be fixed 🤷‍♂️

storm palm
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... but it would be nice to know how to send whatever command you want to a zigbee device instead of relying on ZHA to work properly

austere patio
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You can send commands from the "manage clusters" interface

jolly python
mental hedge
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Yes, exactly the same hardware & os though, do you think it's worth a shot despite that?

mental hedge
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That other PC at least recognizes it as a Sonoff Zigbee stick in device manager, but also cowardly refuses to install the drivers.

austere patio
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Do you have a non-Windows computer?

mental hedge
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I have a couple of linux boxes, but with limited OSes (HA OS, LibreElec)
From a desktop point of view it's only windows.

austere patio
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All of this can be done with the command line firmware flashing utility, it's written in Python and can run on just about anything

mental hedge
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I downloaded that but could not figure out how to install.
The .txt file suggests right clicking the silabser.inf file should give an "Install" option but it does not.

austere patio
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Try manually installing the driver from Device Manager and point it to that folder

mental hedge
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On PC#1 installing went OK, but now doesn't see the stick at all. Attempting on PC#2. In the meanwhile I found the libreelec box does have python, so could also try there

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That got it into flash programmer on pc #2. Thanks Patrex and Puddly, time for the next step in the instructions.

mental hedge
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Successfully flashed the stick with the latest stable firmware and the old IEEE as secondary.
In HA z2m addon it won't start, though...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-05-03 22:15:01: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0'

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Based on some suggestion I found on the forum I re-installed the z2m addon but that did not resolve

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An "ls -l /dev" indeed showed me there is no /dev/ttyACM0

sour shadow
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Check the Supervisor's hardware menu and look for a /dev/serial/by-id/ path

mental hedge
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22-05-03 22:03:12 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.ADD hardware /dev/ttyUSB0 - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_e2384a355329ec11a2d26f7840c9ce8d-if00-port0

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so it's /dev/ttyUSB0

austere patio
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Use the /dev/serial/by-id/ symlink wherever possible. It's stable, /dev/ttyUSB0 is not and can refer to a different device in the future.

mental hedge
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Okilydokily

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Thanks all

gloomy hazel
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Hi All,
I wonder if there is some special magic I need to do working with ZHA with a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus. I did update the firmware to 20220219. It does work in general - the sick had been detected and I could integrate a Hue and an Ikea lamp for testing purposes.

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But: The Hue Smart Button: nope, I don't get that one to work

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It only shows 4 entities:

  • identify
  • power (not working - showing 1% - with a battery just tested to be >3.0V)
  • Basic lqi (deactivated)
  • basic rssi (deactivated)
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my web search shows that ZHA is supporting the button and I find lots of input about what people are doing with the button.

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So I wonder if I am missing something here

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Thanks for any pointing me into the right direction

sweet prawn
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Any way to make ikea bulbs turn on full power instead of last state, like hue bulbs do? New zigbee2mqtt user here.

worthy wedge
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Hey guys, for multi-pole locations are there cheaper options than GE Enbrighten switches ? I keep opening up walls and finding that its like I need 2x more add-on switches almost at every location and the ecosystem forces you to purchase these add-on switches

tropic depot
blissful whale
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Hey all, i unplugged my zigbee stick and when I plugged it back in, it's not automatically seen. How do I verify the port in ZHA?

austere patio
worldly spade
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I force-removed some lights in Zigbee2mqtt and now I can't get them to show up in scans again, anything I can do to get them back?

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nvm it pairs I guess my receiver just doesn't work down a short hallway

echo tusk
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hey! anyone knows why my Z2M frontend only loads using my local ip and not my duckdns url?

crude shell
worldly spade
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My lights are all registered and working in z2m but they don't show up in the entities list? I'm on 1.25

worldly spade
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They they show up with ZHA though. They just don't show up with z2m (ZHA doesn't find all of my devices)

mellow geode
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Can’t speak about Z2M, but ZHA should find all devices. They might just "not work"

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Maybe try bringing the device closer to the coordinator or another router (mains-powered device)

supple plover
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I updated Z2M, and Mosquitto Broker addons today. And now all my devices are gone from Z2M. I have tried all morning to find out what was wrong with the addon, before finally taking a motion sensor and trying to include it again. That worked, so it seems everything works, and that i just lost all my devices... Anyone know why this happened?

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Fortunately I don't have a lot of zigbee devices..

hushed cargo
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Are these things just bad?

TS0201
by _TZ3000_fie1dpkm
Connected via Zigbee Coordinator
Zigbee info
IEEE: a4:c1:38:5b:6d:7f:ab:d0
Nwk: 0xa4a2
Device Type: EndDevice
LQI: 247
RSSI: -78
Last Seen: 2022-05-04T10:52:34
Power Source: Battery or Unknown

I'm not getting any change in temperature whatsoever from this device, it's been on "constant" temperature value (22.7C) since I got it. Also the last 2 readings, with the same exact temp were from 10:58, then 11:32, that's a bit of a stretch

tall pike
blissful whale
jolly narwhal
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Need to buy some more Zigbee devices soon

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By power source
Mains (single phase): 74
Battery: 46
ocean cloak
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Welp even after changing channels my Hue motion sensor is still falling off my network on z2m after it being fine for months in ZHA

ocean cloak
echo tusk
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Thanks!

mighty river
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Anyone have a recommendation for a ZigBee ap ? My Xiaomi temp sensor is out in my greenhouse closer to end of my garage about 75 feet and 2 sets of walls from my HA so it will drop out eventually through the day

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I have a HUE and WiFi in the garage but didn't wanna add it to HA but it's just sitting in the box wondering if that's a better go forward

untold iron
mighty river
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Think it was downstairs in basement but I can repair - paired it out there last summer but same issue. I have some of the Ikea plugs but I can't recall if they worked at all for me

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Google answered me. Hue only works as a coordinator. So much for that lol

sweet prawn
austere patio
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Z2M should have a way to set the power on behavior

sweet prawn
# austere patio Z2M should have a way to set the power on behavior

Cool! I see this at z2m..."To read (/get) the value publish a message to topic zigbee2mqtt/FRIENDLY_NAME/get with payload {"power_on_behavior": ""}. To write (/set) a value publish a message to topic zigbee2mqtt/FRIENDLY_NAME/set with payload {"power_on_behavior": NEW_VALUE}. The possible values are: off, previous, on."

sweet prawn
austere patio
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Yep. There should be a similar attribute for the level control cluster, which would let you control the power on behavior of the brightness in addition to the on/off state

sweet prawn
slender bloom
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Hope anyone here can help me out. I have a Gledopto GL-C-008-1ID rgb controller. Connected via z2m and working fine. The only thing i would like to change is the min brightness setting. As currently the ledstrip turns off at 11%. Is there a setting in ha or z2m that i am missing to set the new 1% brightness to 12%? Thanks been searching for a while now

mighty river
lusty yew
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Are zigbee repeaters that don't do anything but repeat the signal a thing? Something I could just plug into an outlet that'd extend the mesh?

sour shadow
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They are

lusty yew
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Hmm, I suppose a Zigbee outlet would be just that.

knotty saffron
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Hello there . Ive got problem with zigbee2mqtt , snzb-02 temp sensors freezes. I mean readouts are static. gets static after some period of time

sour shadow
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I'm pretty sure those ones are known to do that

hot tendon
ocean cloak
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Is there a way to force devices to try to remap how they attach to the mesh?

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I just added a device that can act as a router (a smart plug) above another device that has notoriously had a bad LQI and dropped off the network, but that device is still connecting directly to my coordinator

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I tried removing it and re-adding it, but it's still connecting to the main coordinator

ocean cloak
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It's weird, one device seems to have automatically changed it's route except it's the device that's maybe the closest physically and with best line of sight to the coordinator

ocean cloak
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Great now somehow I fucked up my entire coordinator and z2m won't connect

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My tube-zb keeps showing this:

[D][serial_server:103]: New client connected from 10.0.0.223
[D][binary_sensor:036]: 'TubesZB Gateway Serial Connected': Sending state ON
[D][serial_server:068]: Client 10.0.0.223 disconnected
[D][binary_sensor:036]: 'TubesZB Gateway Serial Connected': Sending state OFF
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Because z2m keeps failing to connect:

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-05-05 02:49:47: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
    at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:102:27)
    at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:123:29)
    at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:58:27)
    at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:100:27)
    at start (/app/index.js:110:5)
molten linden
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which coordinator do you have? PoE/ non PoE ethernet? Square or round 🤦‍♂️

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Sometime just unplugging for a bit and retrying overcomes this. Other times reflashing the esp32 helps.

hazy edge
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I am currently using the Sonoff ZBBridge flashed with tasmota and connected to HA with ZHA. I added a Tuya T0202 motion sensor and I'm trying to figure out how to change the sensitivity on the sensor. I was reading an article (https://smarthomescene.com/reviews/cheapest-zigbee-motion-sensor-for-your-smart-home/) regarding this particular motion sensor having the option to change sensitivity when connected using Zigbee2MQTT but I am not seeing this settings exposed in ZHA.

ocean cloak
warm estuary
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Lately my zigbee network seems unstable. It has been working good for a year, but for the last week or so temp sensors become unavailable, lights doesn't work (need to power cycle them and they work again) etc. I haven't added, removed or changed the zigbee network in any way (except updates to HA I guess).

Has anyone else seen the same or is it just me? I'm thinking if there's something up with ZHA...

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ZHA + conbee 2 btw

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I've heard so many good things about Z2M so now that my stuff is acting up I'm thinking of maybe testing it out... 🙂 I only have ~30 or so devices.

fervent night
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Hi. I bought sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb dongle plus and connect IT to home assistant without flashing. Can I plug out stick, flash it and plug in again or need I do something before that? Unconfigure in HA?

sour shadow
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You can do that just fine

hushed cargo
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I am horrified by the short range of Zigbee. So far, in my house, I get tops 5-6 meters distance between the nearest router and an end device - using HubZ Smart Home Controller. Some of my repeaters are light bulbs that will occasionally blink (not sure why). I also have a Hue Hub in the same house, could that be causing interference? I cannot see which channel Zigbee is running on, and my local wifi mesh is using "auto" for it's channels, could those interfere with zigbee somehow, and cause poor signals?

Also, in terms of signal strength, what should I be looking for? I see green lines with values around 200-255, assuming that is "good" signal. Signal strength 138 is marked yellow, while 106 are displayed in red. Should I do something to that?

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(sorry for all the questions, I'm completely new to Zigbee)

sour shadow
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That's a pretty normal range - you may get more depending on the environment

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There's some pinned messages about checking for interference and picking good channels - you want to ensure that you're not using auto for WiFi channels and are using a quiet channel for Zigbee. It's possible you picked the same channel that the Hue is using for your (I assume) ZHA install

hushed cargo
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ZHA is HubZ?

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My issue with the short range is I don't reach my garage, where I need temperature and motion detection. Guess I'll have to Z-wave those too then

sour shadow
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ZHA is the built in Zigbee integration, with whatever stick you chose

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You can get maybe 8 to 10 meters in a good environment

mellow geode
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You could also switch to one if you’re using ZHA

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For now, did you update Home Assistant to the latest version?

uneven dew
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Hello, i updated to the new home assistant yesterday, and now it seems my zigbee network is falling apart... where do i start looking to try to fix it?

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this is kinda strange... i reset on of the plugs to repair it with my stuff, and when i try to add a device it find my zigbee stick..

uneven dew
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so is the ZHA integration in HA just flaky AF?

tropic depot
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no

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also you haven't shared any of the necessary info for folks to help you

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after 4 messages (1 deleted) you finally shared that you are using ZHA

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what coordinator? what devices? define "falling apart"

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what is your setup and what specifically are your issues

cerulean bison
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Hi Guys,

I'm facing issues pairing IKEA Motion sensor with ZHA using Sonoff USB Dongle plus. The interview is completed, but the configuration never ends... If I go back to integration page, it shows the sensor added, but not usable.

Would appreciate any hints on how to get this to work...

tropic depot
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what do you mean by "the configuration never ends"

native prairie
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Not sure why but my motions sensors show up unavailable. I believe there was an update since the HA UI looks different now (new layout in settings and stuff) I checked my mqtt broker config and z2m config all seems fine. I did also re-connect one of the sensors, it shows up and connects in z2m but when I check in overview it shows unavailable. anyone having the same issue?

uneven dew
# tropic depot no

Yes the zha ha integration is flakey,. Just go look on GitHub at the numerous reports about this happening. The message that was deleted was not relevant, and since you did see it you could have commented. Also considering that the zha integration is the one that is first shown it would be fair to assume that is the one that is the issue unless it was explicitly called out that another ZigBee integration was being using with ha

tropic depot
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do you want help or do you just want to complain?

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provide the info or peace out

uneven dew
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Please step back and look at your first comments. Maybe you are having a bad morning or whatever time zone you are in. Don't be a dick

sour shadow
native prairie
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please all be kind to each other and specially me and help Daywalker 🙂

sour shadow
native prairie
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yes

sour shadow
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Have you checked the devices are showing as available in Z2M?

native prairie
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all of it

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rebooted the server, the add on, re-paired the sensor

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funny is that the sensor shows up after I pair it, just shows unavailable

native prairie
uneven dew
sour shadow
tropic depot
native prairie
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oh wells, thanks anyways

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I'm going to reinstall all anyways since I want to run the server headless

tropic depot
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could it be an issue w/ the mqtt broker? (i don't know much about how z2m works)

native prairie
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having troubles with ram, just ordered a upgrade module and after I install that I do a fresh start

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hope the problem is solved after that

tropic depot
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good luck

native prairie
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maybe due a update some configurations are screwed

tropic depot
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we move fast as a project

native prairie
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no biggy since I only stared out

tropic depot
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🙂

native prairie
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just hopeing I'm not running in the same situation every now and then

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probably be back for more help, till then be nice to each other and don't forget } help Daywalker

uneven dew
# tropic depot I'm willing to help... I need the info though...

i dont think this has anything to to with the stick from what i can find. i have this error in my logs

WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0xA529:1:0x0702]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>')]

but its a sonoff zigbee 3.0 stick

tropic depot
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OK so ZHA, Sonoff stick (ZNP)

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what are the devices you are having issues with

uneven dew
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everything

tropic depot
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not helpful

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lol

uneven dew
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i have 6 energy plugs connected to it

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it was working fine until i update HA, and now the zigbee network appears broken

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i tried to repair one of the devices, and it just kinda sat there waiting to be paired.

tropic depot
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make / model of the devices

uneven dew
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they are all sengled E1C-NB7

tropic depot
uneven dew
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the plug? yes i thought i did

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i forgot i have these sensors that i can try to pair fresh.

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let me try one.

tropic depot
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I have 12 of those plugs... they are rock solid in general

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lets try to figure out what is going on... What is the HA setup?

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hardware / installation type

uneven dew
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Home Assistant OS. in a VMware fusion VM

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was running on the old version of HA for the past week no problem

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upgraded to 2022.5 yesterday afternoon, then last night it seems the stick started having issues

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i would paste a picture but it appears i cannot

tropic depot
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you can DM me media

obsidian sandalBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

Command '~images' was invoked by: Tinkerer
tropic depot
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these sonoff sticks are causing all sorts of headaches

uneven dew
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i grabbed one because i heard good things about them

tropic depot
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we'll try to figure out what is up

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but just want to point out that in Zigbee the nwk is managed at the stack level... there isn't much we can control

uneven dew
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so i know HA is using this by path by id. or at least it appears to be doing so according to the logs

tropic depot
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devices self organize etc... when things like this happen it's really tough to get to the bottom of it

uneven dew
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yeah i just tried to pair sonoff sensor to the stick

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and it didn

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t see it 😐

tropic depot
uneven dew
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ohh got ya

tropic depot
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have you recently moved anything?

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added in any other 2.4Ghz devices

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changed anything related to Wifi?

uneven dew
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i personally have not

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but i think the guys upstairs got their internet in yesterday

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but that was at like 10 AM

tropic depot
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is the stick directly connected to the machine?

uneven dew
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yeap, hasn't moved since its been connected

tropic depot
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do you have a USB extension cable you can try?

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and is the stick in a USB 2 or USB 3 port?

uneven dew
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i think its in a 3 port

tropic depot
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not good for radio interference

uneven dew
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i see

tropic depot
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get it on an extension cable and in a USB2 port if possible

uneven dew
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will a 3 to 2 ub work?

tropic depot
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?

uneven dew
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a usb3 hub that has 2.0 ports

tropic depot
#

i'd use an extension cable regardless to get it away from the hub itself

uneven dew
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k. i'll have to go buy one later this afternoon.

#

also if all the devices are now offline, will i need to repair them?

tropic depot
#

depends on the issue honestly

#

are the plugs all you have?

uneven dew
#

right now, yes

tropic depot
#

i'd guess no but I can't say for sure

uneven dew
#

is there away to backup the zigbee stuff? i can try to put it on a machine that has usb 2.0 ports only

tropic depot
#

you will want it on an extension no matter what

#

the sonoff stuff isn't really shielded at all IIRC

#

most aren't tbh

pulsar apex
#

My zigbee2mqtt web UI isn't working. My devices are still communicating to HA, but I can't access the UI to add new devices

sour shadow
#

There's a known bug solved by clearing the browser cache

pulsar apex
#

That worked! Thank you.

ocean cloak
#

Is there a way to force devices to use certain routers? Also do devices dynamically adjust their routes or is it static from when you do the initial pairing? Based on distances and obstructions to the coordinator, I have some unexpected routing.

tropic depot
#

nope

#

you can try pairing a device to a specific router

#

but they are free to move around

#

nothing we can do to prevent it

ocean cloak
#

Also I'm going off of the map in z2m if that matters

#

Also is there a difference between green and blue dotted lines? The two routers (sengled plugs) I got are at opposite ends of my apartment and have dotted lines between them

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These are my first routers so I'm a little new to all this

austere patio
#

I believe Z2M uses dotted lines to represent "neighbors". As in, the routers can hear one another but likely will never communicate using that path.

#

Although if they are your only two routers, they may be

ocean cloak
#

The UI says "Dashed lines are the links with routes"

#

Also do wired/router devices typically have better range than non-router devices?

sour shadow
#

Maybe, depends a lot on the device

ocean cloak
#

The reason I got the devices is that I have some devices which are far from the coordinator and have had reliability issues. So far those devices haven't connected to the routers which is annoying, but I haven't had issues with them yet so perhaps I should just wait.

sour shadow
#

It has more power available, but if it's not using that, or has a crappy antenna design, a battery powered device may have better range

ocean cloak
#

I was under the impression that routes were static when you paired. I had heard advice to pair your device in the location where it's going to be for routing reasons

austere patio
#

They are for some devices, not for others. It takes energy for a battery operated device to scan the channel for a new parent router so it's not something they will proactively do. Maybe only when they can't reach their parent. If the connection quality is low enough, that might happen on its and cause the device to re-join through a new parent.

lusty yew
#

iirc Xaomai devices won't repair to a new router ever

ocean cloak
#

Oh for real? Yeah that's what all of my devices are except for the routers which are sengled plugs

#

There's literally no way? Not even removing battery or holding down the button?

sour shadow
#

If you force them to re-pair then sure, but by themselves no

#

(the newer Zigbee 3.0 stuff may ... the light sensor does anyway)

finite jay
#

Hi. I have an Ikea button (model IKEA E2001/E2002) and a lamp from Ikea also. I can turn on and off the lamp in HA and I also can do it with the button. But when I click the button, nothing is reflected in HA. Is this a limitation or am I missing some configuration?

tropic depot
#

what integration?

finite jay
#

zigbee2mqtt

ocean cloak
#

Yeah I tried forcing a re-pair of a temperature and vibration sensor and it didn't connect to the router device.

austere patio
#

You have to permit joins only through the router

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And also make sure that your coordinator firmware is recent. Older versions had a bug that prevented joins from being opened on just a single router without also including the coordinator.

ocean cloak
sour shadow
#

Xiaomi stuff pairs through the first device they hear from, so if you don't force it to pair in a particular way...

ocean cloak
austere patio
#

Z2M should tell you the build ID. Should be something like 20220123

sour shadow
ocean cloak
austere patio
#

Nope, you're fine. 20210708 is the first release with the fix.

ocean cloak
#

Not sure if there's an easier way to find it but I found that in z2m under Settings > Raw

#

Oh right next to it in About

molten linden
keen mica
#

Restoring to 2022.4 made them work again, thought I'd try .5 once more and yup, they borked.

#

It's like the entity doesn't update with the state when the switch is toggled, looks like it gets confused.

molten linden
#

posting some debug logs would help to see what is happening. I have a large zha network and have been fine on 2022.5 (since beta 1).

keen mica
#

Forgive my ignorance, but where do I find those?

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My sensors and lights seem fine, it's just plugs.

austere patio
keen mica
austere patio
#

What doesn't work?

#

And what Zigbee coordinator are you using?

keen mica
#

It's controlling them, but the entity in home assistant doesn't update, so it's like it gets "stuck" almost.

keen mica
austere patio
keen mica
ocean cloak
hardy crane
#

If I've understood it correctly on Z2M FAQ page it says going from an CC2531 to a CC2652 which the sonoff dongle is, I don't need to repair everything. Is that actually correct?

austere patio
#

Seems like you have to copy over the IEEE address of the CC2531 to the CC2652 but yes

cerulean bison
# tropic depot what do you mean by "the configuration never ends"

@tropic depot In the UI when it shows status like interview initiated, interview complete, etc, if all the steps are done, then that box turns green and it states "Configuration Complete". In my case with IKEA motion sensor, this doesn't happen. It continues to try to configure the device more than 10/15 mins.

molten linden
keen mica
molten linden
#

Custome component broke, it was fixed but in testing it has been totally unreliable lots of serial disconnects every few hour to minutes sometimes

austere patio
hardy crane
keen mica
sour shadow
austere patio
#

Does the UI update after this happens? How long after a restart are you running this command?

keen mica
#

The UI moves with the switch to on, then back to off like it doesn't get the response that the device is on.

#

Restart was circa 25 mins ago.

austere patio
#

@tropic depot ^

tropic depot
#

yes?

#

what type of plugs?

#

do you have any Xiaomi routing devices on your network?

keen mica
keen mica
#

Wait no, they own Aqara, I lied.

#

But no routing devices.

austere patio
#

That specific device is TRADFRI control outlet

tropic depot
#

i have a tradfri control outlet

#

on my prod

#

just checked it.... seems to be fine

keen mica
#

Balls

tropic depot
#

so you are saying... you toggle via the UI

#

switch changes correctly

#

UI snaps back to off?

keen mica
#

Yeah, like it doesn't get the response. It reminds me of a Wake on Lan switch when it doesn't have a ping response yet so the switch goes to off until it does.

#

But it doesn't rectify

tropic depot
#

are you using any of the switch_as_x stuff?

keen mica
tropic depot
#

pulling up your log

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give me a sec

keen mica
#

Appreciate it

tropic depot
#

0xF8C4 is the switch?

keen mica
#

Yeah

#

The Last Seen is when I toggled the switch

tropic depot
#

can you share the diagnostics from the integration too

#

you can DM me the file

cerulean bison
tropic depot
#

that screen times out after 60s

#

so anything longer than that is just static

#

it's not still configuring

#

the spinner stops... and the text changes to indicate that things are complete

#

if the device isn't finishing the interview i'd look for sources of interference

cerulean bison
cerulean bison
#

Still not sure what's the broken link in that chain

tropic depot
#

that wont do it

#

what coordinator are you using?

#

and you should pair the devices where they will live (just an FYI I know you are troubleshooting)

cerulean bison
cerulean bison
tropic depot
#

crank up debug logging and give us the logs from a pairing attempt

cerulean bison
#

Okay

odd mango
#

I is a wired wall switch with neutral, was paired to other zigbee stick

#

Seems to have no extra button and does not respond to long-click

odd mango
#

I tried to quickly press it fet times and then hold, and it beeps in 10 seconds or so, but nothing happens

sharp granite
#

How do I rename a zigbee device if the tag is not unique and it won’t let me from the gui front end?

#

Also - is there a way to prevent zigbee battery level pass through HomeKit bridge? It doesn’t seem to display as a separate entity? I got a class low battery level on numerous temp sensors and it’s unwieldy on the home app

pliant belfry
#

Anyone else having issues accessing the zigbee2mqtt addon through the phone app? I'm on android. It won't load anything, just a blank screen.
On a computer it works fine.

slow remnant
#

Hi guys, I am currently starting out with the idea of getting some smart devices and doing some automation with homeassistant. I am searching for sensors right now and found the aqara stuff. Now it zigbee as i read, can i use these sensors without a bridge, just with homeassistant or do i need a bridge?
Ive got some thread-capable device already but i guess this wont work with zigbee?

mellow geode
# tropic depot UI snaps back to off?

Huh, I got a BW-SHP-15 plug today (mostly for testing) and while the plug physically changes state correctly, it also "snaps back to off" in the UI.
I didn’t do any further testing yet and initially just blamed Tuya. I’ll do some testing later to see what fails

tropic depot
#

I know what it is

#

It doesn’t report state

mellow geode
#

Doesn’t ZHA poll devices shortly after sending a turn on/off?

tropic depot
#

Not switches

near echo
slow remnant
ocean cloak
#

lol these stupid devices. This one had consistently well over 100 LQI and now that I added some router device it goes AWAY from the coordinator and now has a ~20 LQI

unborn orbit
#

Curious if there are any high count networks out there with a couple to a few hundred devices? What is your setup? How often do you have devices falling off the network? What firmware versions are you using?

#

I think at this point i've tried every iteration and somehow i have devices always falling off the network including those powered by mains

acoustic ruin
#

hey all! anyone running HA on 22.04?

#

I just updated and I think the new kernel borked ZHA and zwavejs2mqtt

#

can anyone confirm?

trim stirrup
#

Hey all, trying to move from ZHA to Zigbee2MQTT and I'm having a bit of an issue with trying to get the addon to start. I removed ZHA, rebooted, and then tried to start Z2M and am getting the same error as this guy: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zigbee2mqtt-502-bad-gateway/337929/2

I see his problem was having ZHA installed, but I know for a fact ZHA is gone from my install. Does anyone have any other ideas of things I could try?

thick zealot
#

I wanna disable the password on Phoscon. I dislike having to enter in another password when I have already authenticated to the HA frontend. Before I ask if it is possible, I want to know if its some risk to it besides the marginal decrease in security

thick zealot
thick zealot
unborn orbit
tropic depot
glass orbit
#

[0x0000:zdo] ZDO request ZDOCmd.Mgmt_Permit_Joining_rsp: [<Status.SUCCESS: 0>]
[0x0000:zdo] No handler for ZDO request:ZDOCmd.Mgmt_Permit_Joining_rsp([<Status.SUCCESS: 0>])

#

My cc2531 can't find anything, any idea?

crude otter
#

how can i help to get support for a new device in ZHA?

#

its a Zigbee device that uses the Tuya SmartLife app

tropic depot
#

Ha looks like you just did 😀

wary wyvern
#

Hi! I have this temperature and humidity sensor from Sonoff. I have paired it with Zigbee2Mqtt and I can se the temp and humidity values in the zigbee2mqtt dashboard in HA. However, the device does not show up in any sensor list and I cannot add it manually by code either, because it does not exist under sensor. What's up with that?

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/SNZB-02.html

sour shadow
#

Do you have other devices that are showing in HA?

wary wyvern
#

Yes. I have other sensors that are available in HA

#

Sensors that have been added through zigbee2mqtt that is. For instance, my Hue motion sensor (which also reports temperature etc).

sour shadow
wary wyvern
#

Sorry but I don't quite follow. I use "Mosquitto broker" as MQTT integration and I don't see such an option for it. I can re-configure it, but I don't see such an option.

sour shadow
#

The option is under dotsvertical

#

To the right of CONFIGURE

wary wyvern
#

Oh there. Yeah, that one is enabled

untold obsidian
#

did you check if it is actually offered to MQTT? Where the path is device>z2M>mqtt>HA ... I use MQTT Explorer to find out if it at least shows up there http://mqtt-explorer.com/

tall pike
#

Hi everyone, I've got a bunch of Tradfri bulbs and remotes connected to ZHA via a Conbee2. Now I'd like to directly bind a set of 3 bulbs to a Tradfri 5 button remote using the IKEA method of long-pressing the pairing button while holding the remote near the bulb. Before I do this, would like to know if the bulbs will still respond to automations through HA, and if the remote will still send messages to HA?

#

The idea is that I primarily want to control the bulbs via HA, but if the bulbs drop off the network then I can use the directly bound remote to control them. Does binding work in this way?

sterile sleet
silent prism
silent prism
# tall pike Hi everyone, I've got a bunch of Tradfri bulbs and remotes connected to ZHA via ...

I've got a bunch of tradfri gear, can confirm that you can pair the bulb to HA as well as directly to a remote and both will work to control it. Not so sure about pairing a remote to both HA and the bulb though, sounds like it might cause issues when both devices recieve the button presses though.
Those remotes are pretty cheap though, so I'd recommend having an extra that never gets paired to HA to use as your backup

thick zealot
thick zealot
fickle hamlet
#

what do i need to do to setup deconz plugin with raspbee2?

unborn orbit
hexed cargo
#

Hi, I have something crazy going on with an Aqara H1 wireless via Z2M. Had some automations programmed for it, and was fooling around in Node-Red to create new ones. At some point the H1 stopped responding altogether, LEDs didn't even blink. Ended up having to reset it. Now when it is bound to Z2M, all buttons have the same effect: it toggles ALL zigbee devices it has in range, although every single automation and node flow related to it are disabled. i've tried keeping the battery out for hours, resetting it I don't know how many times, it remains that way. Does that ring any bell to anyone?

tropic depot
#

that means it is not configured correctly

crimson dust
#

Have anyone tried Aqaras multisensor temp/hygrometer outide? Do they survive that?

tropic depot
#

with a lot of Zigbee 3.0 remotes if no clusters are bound they message the global group

#

which wil affect ALL devices with reciprocal clusters

hexed cargo
#

It appears since I did the first reset, the Z2M join does not proceed correctly indeed, as it does not report the battery status anymore, but I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

hexed cargo
crimson dust
tropic depot
hexed cargo
tropic depot
#

make sure you get it removed from z2m... I am guessing they do not reconfigure it if they already know about the device

hexed cargo
#

I have to do a force remove because the graceful remove obviously fails
Okay, just deleted it from Z2M. Now going to reinsert the battery and do a reset.

hexed cargo
tropic depot
#

someone who knows z2m will have to help.... the device isn't being configured.

hexed cargo
#

I think I got in this situation in the first place by keeping the right button pressed too long while toying with Node-Red.. I'll try to reach out to the Z2M community see if it rings bells there. Thanks for the help tho 🙂

sharp granite
#

Looking at mesh routers with zigbee built in, ie tp link deco eero etc - will these extend all my zigbee networks, sonoff-zha ikea and aqara or certain brands/channels only?

uneven dew
#

@tropic depot i got the usb extension cable and am in a 2.0 port. still same issue.... is there away to issue commands directly on the stick for debugging?

tropic depot
#

The next thing to do is run an energy scan

#

Search this channel for instructions

#

I’m out atm so I won’t be much help

uneven dew
#

dunno if it help, but i also update to the latest HA

austere patio
uneven ruin
#

I know everyone does the report differently, but I stopped having things get out of sync once I got that worked out. Then just kinda did the same thing for the items I considered my main routers (which are two tubezb routers, and a couple Sylviania plugs)

uneven ruin
#

I say this actively using them

#

meant to reply to him sorry puddly

#

@sharp granite see above

hazy edge
#

Is there documentation on to properly use ZHA's manage clusters to change a zigbee device's settings? I want to adjust my PIR motion sensor's sensitivity level

unborn orbit
crimson dust
#

In my ZHA Visualization I only see lines between one/units. Even thoguh all my sensors works fine. How come? I see others who have lines to each unit showing its strenght. I use a Conbee2 as a Coordinator

crude otter
#

Someone posted a quirk, but it has not worked

tall pike
crude otter
#

'arcane art' lol.. Zigbee is the voodoo of home automation

#

how does it work? nobody knows!

uneven ruin
#

Just used the map. Moved the coordinator or repositioned it's antenna then remapped. Did that a few times. Turned out moving it to the other side of the main duct was key

uneven ruin
#

@unborn orbit that was supposed to be a reply to you - guess the app didn't do that by default.

#

While analyzing the map i realized the one that I had plugged in showed crazy strong connections to things further away and realized I had a second one in the closet. threw that in to patch a "hole" in the mesh having strong connections and that pretty much settled everything.

open linden
#

Any recommendations on zigbee smart bulbs, if I don’t care about color, only care about color temperature in so far as having the bulbs be warm white, not especially worried about supporting low dimming levels, need the bulbs to come on if power was cut and restored, and don’t care about using the bulbs as routers.

To explain: I’m mostly going with smart switches, but need some bulbs for table lamps. I’m primarily interested in being able turn the bulbs off via automation. Currently I expect they will usually be turned on with the knob, which might mean a few extra clicks if they had been turned off by automation, but that is fine.

noble lion
#

hi all! my z2mqtt is misbehaving after months of being stable! at first it couldnt see many devices, it was only those very nearby, no routers. Now after a retstart it doesnt recognise any devices but the log does show it's hearing from some..

crimson dust
white aurora
#

What's the cheapest Zigbee repeater?

#

Smartplug, lightbulb, etc really anything

sour shadow
#

They're not necessarily good routers, but they're cheap

austere patio
#

If you're in the United States, Ecosmart bulbs can be found for less than $5 each. They run hot at 100% brightness and take ~10s to turn on to minimum brightness if they've been off for a while. But they're also $5.

white aurora
#

CC2531 off of AliExpress it is

jolly python
#

Ok lets go

open linden
austere patio
open linden
#

If so only physically, the website no longer shows the zigbee version at all for me.

austere patio
#

Oh, I was replying to L33tMasta's earlier question about the cheapest possible Zigbee router. I wouldn't suggest buying Ecosmart unless you just want a router that doubles as a bright space heater.

open linden
#

ah, fair enough. but even so, it probably might be hard to find.

#

I hate this global chip shortage, everyone is out of products, nonsense.

austere patio
open linden
#

ok, weird.

austere patio
#

Seems to be the last of their stock, I'm not seeing any A19 bulbs left

open linden
#

"wireless" is not really a word that goes with actual bulbs. Perhaps little stick-on battery powered led modules. Really dumb marketing.

#

Like, as opposed to the bulbs with an ethernet jack?

tropic depot
lilac wharf
sour shadow
lilac wharf
#

Unifi 🤢

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#

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uneven dew
#

i got my USB extension cable and have hooked it up, i am trying to run an energy scan as suggested but it fails (this is for the sonoff zigbee 3 stick) https://dpaste.org/keAhx
i guess i need to file a github issue for this?

uneven dew
#

uhh how do i tell what channel my stick is currently on?

#

and if i move it to a new channel, do i need to repair?

sour shadow
#

ZHA defaults to 15, Zigbee2MQTT defaults to 11

tropic depot
#

wait... you have a TI based sonoff stick right?

uneven dew
#

yes, i found the info for using zigpy

#

can we pin that please?

#

and 15 is near chan 11 for wifi, right?

tropic depot
#

15 is between WiFi channels that is why we default to it

#

The signal info is pinned here

sharp granite
unborn orbit
lilac wharf
ocean cloak
#

Is there a way to fix the issues with zigbee2mqtt and battery readings? It seems like from what I've heard people just take it for a matter of fact that your battery readings are going to just not work, but is there really nothing that can be done about it?

#

I'm even more skeptical because before I switched to z2m recently, the battery readings with ZHA at least showed some reading that moved rather than each one always being at 100% as it is now with z2m

uneven dew
#

what are my next steps in trying to get this working again?

 - 14    17.25%  #################
 - 15    22.20%  ######################
 - 16     0.00%
 - 17     0.00%

this is what my channel 15 is looking like

unborn orbit
#

If i have a device that is still reporting an LQI but says it is offline on z2m what does that mean?

uneven ruin
sharp granite
lilac wharf
#

They're not. TP-Link has zigbee devices

austere patio
uneven dew
#

should i pastebin it or can i put it here?

austere patio
#

20 looks better than 15

#

Do you have any 2.4GHz WiFi APs nearby on nonstandard channels (i.e. not 1/6/11)?

uneven dew
#

so i live in the city, and i am 99% sure all my neighbors have the managed FiOS router. so yes there is probably a boat load of stuff on non standard channels

#

so... not sure what happened but on a whim i tried to add a sonoff temp/humidity sensor

#

and it detected it, and the zigbee devices are appearing to come back to life

uneven ruin
#

so your network to that device is lossy

#

when I talked about optimizing my network. Moving one of my routers was another key. it used to drop "offline" due to missed pings but was still connected (though poorly)

unborn orbit
uneven ruin
unborn orbit
uneven ruin
#

I tried different antenna directions and spots. I guess I"m kinda lucky I have my coordinator in my utility room on a longish USB2 extension so moveing it around wasn't hard

#

radio stuff is weird, too close can be bad, too far can be bad. theres a goldilocks distance. Moving the coordinator over a metal duct put the distance to a few key mains routers in the right spot

#

I also put in a few jasco outlets, which are in wall outlets with one of the 2 plugs being zigbee controlable. They've been rock solid for my xiomi/aqara sensors

#

also, I'm talking about LQI in the map not the main screen. I have very different values in the main screen. Not sure why

mossy fern
#

My zigbee devices are suddenly disabled in HA. I had this a fewbtimes recently and could solve it by rebooting the host. Now after a few reboots they are still all ubavailable. I use ZHA with a ConbeeIi stick.

#

Logger: zigpy_deconz.api
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/zigpy_deconz/api.py:316
First occurred: 9:18:23 AM (7 occurrences)
Last logged: 9:23:24 AM

No response to 'Command.aps_data_request' command with seq id '0x8b'
No response to 'Command.aps_data_request' command with seq id '0xb3'
No response to 'Command.aps_data_request' command with seq id '0xd1'
No response to 'Command.aps_data_request' command with seq id '0x37'
No response to 'Command.aps_data_request' command with seq id '0x6b'

#

Any ideas where to look, this is giving serious WAF problems at the moment

mossy fern
#

Thry are back online, but now the responsetime of my IKEA bulbs is a few seconds

last ruin
#

When adding a device to Phoscon and naming it there, do I have to restart HA to get the updated entity name?

#

I mean I get the updated entity name if I restart HA, I was just hoping for a quicker method.

warped hatch
#

Not sure if this is the right place but is anyone able to give me some assistance with Zigbee2mqtt? I am currently stuck with 502 bad gateway and in the logs its : "Failed to connect to the adapter"

#

I was originally on ZHA - I have that currently disabled but does it need to be totally uninstalled to release the serial for use with Z2M?

sour shadow
#

You need to make sure that ZHA isn't started

warped hatch
#

It is currently disabled. I assumed that stopped it? Does it not?

sour shadow
#

I'd guess so, but you probably have to restart HA - or possibly even reboot the host - to get the stick available for Z2M after you disabled ZHA

warped hatch
#

Right, never thought of that - I did try unplugging and plugging the stick back in but never though to reboot the host - will try that now.

sour shadow
#

It may well be that the Supervisor isn't freeing up the stick because it thinks the HA container still needs it

warped hatch
#

Its taking a hella long time to reboot so hopefully find out soon

#

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-05-08 15:01:43: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-05-08 15:01:43: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-05-08 15:01:43: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-05-08 15:01:43: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:94:31)
at Generator.throw (<anonymous>)
at rejected (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:25:65)

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Sadly the reboot did not resolve my issue

sour shadow
warped hatch
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I was sure I was but let me double check.

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Oh I didn't because it cried when I tried but I put it under the port and now the log says
node index.js
CREATED DECONZ ADAPTER

But hasn't gone further and I still have 502

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But the log doesn't seem to go further this time to cry about failing to connect to the adapter

obsidian sandalBOT
#

@warped hatch Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (text longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://dpaste.org/ (pick YAML for the language), https://www.codepile.net/ (pick YAML for the language), or https://paste.debian.net/ (pick YAML for the language).

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

Command '~codewall' was invoked by: Tinkerer
warped hatch
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oh appologies

sour shadow
#

The default log level will have it not producing any more output

warped hatch
#

righttt

sour shadow
#

You need to change the log level to get useful chatter

warped hatch
#

is there a level you would recommend?
Currently: log_level: warn

sour shadow
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info is nice and chatty

warped hatch
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Shall do that now

sour shadow
#

debug is probably a bit much

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info is great for troubleshooting what's going on

warped hatch
#

hmm what is very strange is the log all appears fine

sour shadow
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Does it include a line about the frontend starting?

warped hatch
#

yep

# 
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2022-05-08 15:09:55: Started frontend on port 0.0.0.0:8080
sour shadow
#

Try connecting directly to the UI, rather than using the sidebar?

warped hatch
#

apologies - how do you do that?

sour shadow
# 
Started frontend on port 0.0.0.0:8080

Connect to port 8080?

warped hatch
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if i do the pi's ip address on port 8080 I get this page isn't working at the moment

sour shadow
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Weird

warped hatch
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I honestly thought we had this nailed when the log said it started the front end

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Oh I am in!

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I realised I had set it to 8080 when I was struggling so went and found the default port it has which is 8099 and I am in

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Wether or not any of it is working is a different matter but I am in which is a solid start

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Oh my word its worked - @sour shadow - Thank you very much for your time - it was very much appreciated.

azure tinsel
#

after updating z2mqtt to the latest version i have i hue bulb LTA001 that wont react anymore. i tried force removing it and rejoining. It is found just fine and z2m shows the light like normal but i get this error every few seconds: 2022-05-08 20:23:26Publish 'set' 'state' to '0x001788010678f195' failed: 'Error: Command 0x001788010678f195/1 genOnOff.on({}, {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Timeout - 62358 - 1 - 25 - 6 - 11 after 10000ms)'

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i removed it again and paired it to a hue bridge. the light works perfectly with the hue bridge.

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i have 2 more hue LTA001 bulbs that work like they should

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before the update the bulb worked just fine

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all 3 have the same firmware : 1.93.7

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i have absolutely no idea why one of the three dropped of the network after the update and wont funtion anymore

violet magnet
#

Are other folks having luck with Hue dimmer remotes paired to ZHA?

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I'm trying to use one for a room with a zigbee-switch that Hue won't talk to, but the dimmer remote keeps unpairing somehow - it just blinks red when I press a button.

wary turret
#

hello all, this is my first message here 😄 I have been (without many issues) running home assistant with conbee II for over a year now. Last week I got some innr bulbs. So far I have been unsuccessful in getting the network to recognize them. I have tried multiple locations near and far with no avail. Anyone else have had issues with them before?

sour shadow
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What are you using? ZHA? deCONZ? Zigbee2MQTT?

wary turret
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deconz integration in hass

obsidian bison
#

does anyone know any door switches that can be made to output a periodic update?

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atm I have door contact sensors from Aqara, Blitzwolf and Tuya, and as far as I can tell all of them only send a message on open/close -- but if I miss that, they're fully unknown until the next event

faint quest
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I have an Aqara vibration sensor and I'm trying to use z2m to set its sensitivity to high. There's a page on how to do this but I'm having trouble understanding the instructions. It says The sensitivity can be changed by publishing to zigbee2mqtt/FRIENDLY_NAME/set{"sensitivity": "SENSITIVITY"} where SENSITIVITY is one of the following values: low, medium, high.

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What do they mean by "publish"?

pliant belfry
#

Anyone that can recommend a 20A EU wall plug (or 16A) that works with z2m?

Just got some tuya 20A plugs in the mail that keeps powering off by themselves.

austere patio
hot tendon
jade mirage
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Tinkerer? you around??

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ok, lets see what eveyone knows. my zigbee2mqtt won't start, because it can't see the ttyACM0. from qnap command line, I can see it, and tool says success when I test it there.

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can't run test from docker container because it shuts down too quickly

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and I am trying to do the things fromhttps://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html

storm palm
#

Is there any way to do a smooth press and release bright/dim with a remote control? I am testing one out and it requires to press and release the bright or dim button many times.

orchid galleon
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I assume you'd need a loop though. Whilst X is held, keep increasing the brightness by X

lusty breach
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Hello, I have a strange behaviour with HA and Zigbee2MQTT, when I launch flash for service light.turn_on on bulb that are all off, z2m bulb will stay on after effect and the ones on hue bridge will return in previous state (off) as expected.

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I also tried on Z2M bulb breathe effect, that don't work on bulb on hue bridge, anyway, if i launch it from Z2M dashboard, previous state is restored correctly.
From HA > service light.turn_on > effect > breathe, lights stay on after

summer fable
#

So, I'm currently using deconz for ZigBee, is there anyway I can switch to the integrated ZigBee control without rebinding everything again? Deconz doesn like my motion sensors but I know they used to work before I spent money and upgraded the dongle (figured I'd switch to Deconz when I did it cos it was the dongle and since then I've added quite a few things since then)

storm yarrow
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@empty igloo a bit late but with Hue essentials App you regain the "Away from Home" feature 🙂 also you can use the HUB as transceiver with diyhue. But we recommend a dedicated Zigbee Tansceiver stick as cheap as some 15 $

empty igloo
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not having to get a new transceiver just saves me hassle in a few ways

storm yarrow
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@empty igloo you can use diyhue <--> Hue Bidge <--> Zigbee lights but only lights no sensors as the are not exposed by the original bridge

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i use Stick <--> Z2M <--> diyhue

verbal prawn
#

What configuration do you use in z2mqtt? It’s giving Erro 502
HA is in version 2022.4.7 and is installed on raspberry pi 4 4gb.

ebon thorn
#

Hi. I have two Ikea bulbs and 1 Ikea motion sensor connected to ZHA. I have a simple automation that turns on the lights when the sensor detects motion. But the lights only come on to 1% every time. I have the same bulbs and motion sensor in another room that work fine. I tested the light.on service for the entity and it works as expected. Unsure why these two bulbs and motion sensor behave differently.

woeful sentinel
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hey all. is it normal/expected for contact sensors to become "offline" after 25 hours of not being moved?

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i've enabled the Availability thing in Z2M, for reference. Some of my contact sensors stay online for days, but others ALWAYS show as offline after 25 hours, even though they are fine (i open the door and it immediately goes back online)

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ie: I open the front door. contact is online and shows as opened. i close the door, it updates to closed. after a day of not using the front door, it drops to OFFLINE, which messes up a lot of my HA automations. After 1 day I open the door again, and it goes from unavailable to Open.

sour shadow
woeful sentinel
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FYI, these sensors all have temperature too, so I would expect them to offer regular updates

sour shadow
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What make/model?

woeful sentinel
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they actually worked fine until earlier this year. No issues like this in 2021

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LQI is around 50 according to Z2M, batteries are mostly full

woeful sentinel
ivory dagger
sour shadow
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Don't buy a hub, buy a Zigbee stick and use ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
ivory dagger
sour shadow
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Then buy a Hue or Tradfri hub until you can change that

spark fiber
# 
alias: Knopftest 2
description: ''
use_blueprint:
  path: SeanM/zha-aqara-wireless-mini-switch.yaml
  input:
    aqara_mini_switch: 801
    button_single_press:
      - service: notify.alexa_media_b
        data:
          data:
            type: announce
            method: all
          message: Kno
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this is what I am trying to run

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can anyone help me how to debug this please?

woeful sentinel
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I tried Googling but i keep getting red herrings

sour shadow
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I don't have those devices, I know nothing about them

woeful sentinel
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ah. so you think it's a device specific issue, not a z2m issue

sour shadow
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All of my devices report in at least once every 24 hours (actually, between 1 and 3 hours), where yours don't seem to

woeful sentinel
#

would a router device powering on and off cause this? let's say i put a usb repeater in my car that's only powered sporadically through the week for a few minutes

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if those sensors happened to route through it..

sour shadow
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Yes

lusty breach
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As light.turn_on service can not fully handle correctly a Z2M bulb, I used mqtt.publish service as workaround, by this way effects works perfectly, but because of that, I have two lights groups, one for hue, one for Z2M instead of one group.

woeful sentinel
# sour shadow Yes

looking at Google it doesn't seem to be possible to "blacklist" a router device on the network from being used 😦

hazy oak
#

Bulb recommendation? I found Sengled which I really liked until I found out they won't route traffic. I'm looking for a standard E26 rgbcw bulb. Innr looks good but a little pricey. (US)

stable ermine
uneven ruin
jolly python
terse crystal
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hi there

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I've just paired an IKEA Tradfri button and can't get anything to be recognised on a button press

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anyone got these working

hot tendon
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Where are you looking? Events or somewhere else?

quick cliff
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Zigbee mesh does not seem to be restructuring itself. I paired temp sensor near one router1 and moved it near router2. I waited 2 days but it did not come online. So I forced it to be paired to router2 and it works immidiately. Is it zigbee coordinator firmware or zigbee2mqtt configuration issue?

terse crystal
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I deleted my ZHA install....then updated my Sonoff Zigbee USB...

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not it isn't recognised at all *

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😦

uneven ruin
white aurora
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Are there any good Zigbee sirens that aren't Tuya? I hate having to find my keys

random shell
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hi, i am looking for a nice setup with zigbee preferably without external dongles. https://zig-star.com/projects/zigbee-shield/ would it be a bad idea to get something like that? i can get some device with raspberrypi-like-gpio and use that? or maybe there is a device that connects to usb header that i could keep inside intel nuc ?

cerulean abyss
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@random shell I have one of tubes zigbee ethernet ones and it’s worked great for me. Means it just has to plug into Ethernet & power and can be anywhere in your house

random shell
cerulean abyss
random shell
cerulean abyss
random shell
cerulean abyss
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Which is run on your own server

random shell
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it sounds weird to me since it is a separate device that could go bad ;/

cerulean abyss
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No different than a usb device going bad…

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Or your wifi router going bad

random shell
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yeah, but you could easily see that and it does not need extra power/port/etc

random shell
cerulean abyss
#

You can easily see if a tube one dies, your zigbee devices stop communicating with HA

cerulean abyss
random shell
cerulean abyss
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Think that’s okay. Others can advise though. Note a plastic case isn’t really going to have many issues even if you carried it around. I personally would stick with the list of recommended devices (in the pins) but it’s up to you

random shell
cerulean abyss
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That’s not the pins though

random shell
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yeah 😦

cerulean abyss
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Just because it works doesn’t mean it’s fully recommended

random shell
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checking what is pinned

obsidian sandalBOT
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@random shell Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '~pickyourstick' was invoked by: calmelb
random shell
cerulean abyss
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Except there’s some recommendations of what to use

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Such as electrolama and tube

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Sonoff has been better recently, I personally wouldn’t trust it

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Ultimately is up to you

random shell
cerulean abyss
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Not sure on that. I presume not

random shell
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well, gonna need something from aliexpress. sonoff is the easiest choice i suppose ;/

cerulean abyss
random shell
# cerulean abyss Why from Ali?

local stores have little to nothing or price markup is way too huge. plus it is most hated country in the world so no one else would ship here ;/

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so my choice is 'something open' because 'trust but verify'

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and it has to be available in one way or another

cerulean abyss
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Cannot be sure that it is open though

random shell
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as far as i see - all dongles use 'same firmware'

open linden
cerulean abyss
random shell
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Could i have two zigbee dongles connected to HA at the same time just in case i need to do maintenance or relace faulty hardware?

austere patio
random shell
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I see that there is tasmota for ‘wifi’ devices

silver rampart
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Hi, anyone else using sonoff znzb-04 door sensors?

They seem to have a curious quirk: closing door is reported instantly, always. Opening door has a 1-2 second delay.

Is this normal? any way to tweak it?

austere patio
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And even the "open" coordinator firmware isn't even really open, you can just compile it yourself. There's no way to modify the parts of the stack that Texas Instruments distributes pre-compiled, which is most of the interesting stuff.

random shell
austere patio
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Nope

random shell
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Oh well :/

austere patio
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It's not unusual, I'm not aware of any completely source-available let alone "free" Zigbee stack. That's not to say Z-Stack is unusable, it's just not "open" in the same way Home Assistant is.

cerulean abyss
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There’s also not a need for devices, since if the stick is not talking to the internet then none of the devices would ever be able to

random shell
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zigbee or not - opensource firmware usually improve usability/security of device and its lifetime

silver rampart
#

with esp32/8266 dev boards being super popular and pretty awesome.

Are there any similar zigbee based ones? (

austere patio
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Nothing that runs Arduino or is as easy to use but Nordic and SiLabs have relatively cheap dev kits

silver rampart
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thanks, i'll take a look

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For context, i'd like to make some battery powerd buttons and sensors and worried about wifi connection lag when waking up from deep sleep

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i expirienced this with other, bought, wifi devices. never tried it with esphome

tropic depot
austere patio
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I'm still waiting for the one I ordered in December 😢

open linden
#

Oof.. I ordered a Sengled Zigbee bulb 4 pack, and Amazon sent me a package with the correct FBA barcode, but inside the package was 4 Sengled Bluetooth Low Energy mesh bulbs. I have no use for BLE mesh bulbs. But this also means some FBA seller has contaminated the amazon supply chain, and while they track which company originated comingled products, they won't let me request a specific provider, so I can't reorder though amazon and expect to get the right product.

tropic depot
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😦

calm turret
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im about to give up on these Aqara plugs

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@tropic depot do we actually know what changed that broke them?

tropic depot
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0 context here they make like 15 different plugs

cerulean abyss
open linden
#

The packaging with the FBA barcode could not really have had its contents swapped. It was one of those shipping bags that you need to tear open. Shipped inside a bigger cardboard box, of course! With four individually packaged bulbs. Which is certainly odd in the first place. But that does not scream return scam to me. Putting bulbs in the wrong boxes and shipping those back would be more likely for a return scam. This feels more like an FBA merchant creating their own four packs, and putting the wrong barcode on them.

cerulean abyss
calm turret
tropic depot
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change the mode the device is in

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in the manage clusters dialog pick the mfg cluster (opple iirc) and change the mode to 1

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Then reconfigure the device

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If you are on current HA

calm turret
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ok ill try

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That got the temperature reading to work properly but I still dont have the W sensor

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I'll try again tomorrow, good night

mellow geode
#

I have a couple of the mmeu01 plugs and they need be re-paired until they report the correct signature and get the quirk applied.

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Maybe the quirk should be expanded with all possible signatures

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But for now, try to re-pair it multiple times until it picks up the quirk

obtuse fern
#

Hi all! I have recently bought a zigbee switch (pretty much the only cheap black one I could find tbh). As it is not working off the shelf I since have been introduced quirks. I am still trying to wrap my head around things, so any good documentation you could point me to would be great (I don't find the readme @ https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/tree/master that clear). From what I can find I should be looking towards the ts0041.py quirk but the endpoints don't seem to match. Any guidance you could give? what should i check, verify test etc? big thanks!

tropic depot
tropic depot
#

DM me when you are available and I’ll help

brittle maple
#

Good morning - I have been strugging with keeping battery operated aqara sensors (temperature, air quality, motion) connected to my zigbee network and I am looking for guidance on how best to fix/debug. I have a bunch of powered zigbee devices and my coordinator is Tube's Texas Instruments CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20211217). I also have one of Tubes routers. I live in a apartment that is approximately 1400 sq feet in a high rise building. The devices do pair and are available for a while but eventually they go unavailable. I have tried to add the devices directly to the coordinator and also to the router but neither has corrected the problem. Appreciate any suggestions on how to determine what is causing these devices to go unavailable since I would like to continue to use them since they are reasonably priced.

tropic depot
#

What other routers are on the network

brittle maple
#

4257050-RZHAC
by CentraLite ,lumi.plug.maus01
by LUMI

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I have additional lumi (aqara) and other centralite that I can add if needed.

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I also just noticed that I have a device labelled as "unk_model
by unk_manufacturer" which is labelled as a coordinator and has children associated with it whereas the other coordinator does not - it is called CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20211217)
by Texas Instruments and I assumed it is the Tube coordinator. I only have the tube coordinator attached to a USB on the hub.

tropic depot
#

are the sensors paired now?

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what router does the visualization show them on

brittle maple
#

the "unk_model
by unk_manufacturer" shows children but the other one does not show any children. Some of the other powered devices also show children - some of which are currently unavailable.

tropic depot
#

"Some of the other powered devices"

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which ones

wanton falcon
#

Hello all. I am having issues with ZHA after attempting the 5.1 update. I tried to restore but that did not resolve. This is the error I am seeing. If someone could point me in the right direction I would be grateful! Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator

tropic depot
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need more than that

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go to the log and get the full error trace

obsidian sandalBOT
wanton falcon
#

Apologies in advance. I am pretty new to HA. Is that was you were asking for?

tropic depot
#

yeah what is your setup

#

?

wanton falcon
#

RaspPi 4

tropic depot
#

what coordinator?

wanton falcon
#

full install (is that how you say it?)

tropic depot
#

how is it connected?

wanton falcon
#

the hardware? its a nortek stick

tropic depot
#

weird

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try replugging it in

wanton falcon
#

power the rasp down first?

tropic depot
#

shouldn't have to

wanton falcon
#

ok

tropic depot
#

you don't have anything else trying to access the stick right?

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the zigbee side

wanton falcon
#

no, its a pretty vanilla setup. I am coming from Smartthings and just starting to get things moved over

tropic depot
#

DM me the diagnostics file from the integration card

wanton falcon
#

I tried re plugging and now zwave is throwing an error. Iam going to try a quick restart

tropic depot
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settings -> devices + services -> zha in the 3dot menu on the card there is a download diagnostics

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ok

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sorry didn't think about zwave being in use when I asked you to replug it

wanton falcon
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all good. appreciate your help!!

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zwave came back after restart but same issue with zigbee. grabbing diagnostics now

brittle maple
tropic depot
#

remove the centralite device and test

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1 change at a time

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the tube and xiaomi devices should be fine

brittle maple
#

Dumb question - do I need to repair the unavailable devices or will they come back on their own?

lone apex
#

hey guys ....i installed home assistant on a rpi3 within docker. now i want to add a sonoff zigbee stick ... i need to figure out how to forward the ttyUSB0 device to the conainer if i get it right...but all i tried doesnt work
anyone an idea
?

tropic depot
#

you can just re-add them in place

upbeat bronze
#

gle

cerulean thorn
#

Is it any known issues with tube zigbee poe version? Sometimes it just locks up and I have to reboot it. Sooo annoying

molten linden
#

Haven't heard of any thing widespread. feel free to DM me. sometimes a clean reflash of the esp32 can help

cerulean thorn
#

I will hit you up tomorrow, thanks 🙂

robust forum
#

Is there any issues running multiple raspberry pi's each with a Sonoff Zigbee dongle running zigbee2mqtt? With all of them connecting to the same mosquito mqtt server hosted on HAos? I'm going to be running Zigbee in multiple places far from each other, and rather than trying to get a mesh going (since the Zigbee units will be battery powered temperature and contact sensors), I was planning on putting a raspberry pi zigbee2mqtt near each group.

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I have Home Assistant running in my vm server in the basement as a vm, and it's far from where I need the Zigbee sensors. I already have one Raspberry Pi working with a Sonoff temperature sensor remotely connecting into the Home Assistant MQTT.

molten linden
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Should work fine just give each z2m instance it’s own base_topic for MQTT

sour shadow
silent flower
#

Don't know what it can be? For several days Z2M crashes at + - regular intervals (4 am) then works for a while (6am) and finally I have to restart, then it runs again all day.

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT 1.25? I've seen a number of reports, though few open issues

silent flower
#

1.25.1

random shell
#

would older zigbee <=2.0 devices work with zigbee 3.0 coordinator ? would there be some caveats ? looking at some aquara (not T1) sensors

sour shadow
#

Yes they would

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Nothing major to worry about

random shell
# sour shadow Yes they would

thanks, i think i will just get a pair of sensors for now (to try). what could be the minor problem(s) when pairing earlier zigbee devices with 3.0 coordinator? (if any)

sour shadow
#

For sensors, nothing AFAIK. I'm not sure what, if any, impact there is with a Zigbee 3.0 device routing through a Zigbee 1.2 router - either nothing or not much

thick plover
#

anyone used one of the IKEA Symfonisk rotary remotes for a volume remote successfully?

warped nest
#

Hello, why im getting 502: when trying to start zigbee2mqtt ? never started it, trying to pair aqara roller shade, i do have deconz installed but i dont see the roller driver there

sour shadow
#

What's in the log file for Z2M?

#

And, do you have only a single Zigbee stick?

warped nest
#

refusing to start because config is not valid

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yes

sour shadow
#

Well, then you have to ensure deCONZ is stopped

warped nest
#

oh

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:c

sour shadow
warped nest
#

is there a way to pair the roller shade driver with deconz?

sour shadow
#

Almost certainly

warped nest
#

okay, how do xd

sour shadow
#

No idea, I don't use deCONZ, but the same way you'd pair anything else (from the deCONZ side)

warped nest
#

because i do have aqara door switch, windows switch ect paired and it works fine

sharp berry
robust forum
#

I'm having problems with a Sonoff Motion sensor. Keeps showing N/A in Zigbee2MQTT for both Occupancy and Tamper. Logs don't show any messages, but it is paired and showing up in the Zigbee2MQTT dashboard.

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nvm, just did a long reset on the sensor (pin on reset hole for 5 seconds), and now it's working. Weird that I needed to do that.

warped nest
#

I can see the curtain driver as a light in phoscon, i nmaed it curtain driver but how do I add it as an entity to HA?

arctic nimbus
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Trying to get a Zigbee network going, I have a Sonoff USB transmitter, but it uses the same USB controller chip as my Zooz Z-Wave transmitter so it reports to Unraid/HA as the same device. What Zigbee transmitter should I try next?

obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

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sour shadow
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☝️ See that

warped nest
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how do I find the path of the controller?

hybrid cloud
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is the sonoff dongle a good choice

sour shadow
hybrid cloud
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when kind of build quality issues are we talking about here

sour shadow
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Some have antennas that aren't exactly soldered on, and there's been a fair few reports of issues with the NVRAM going corrupt

hybrid cloud
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oof, gotcha

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how about the smlight slzb02, any simiar known issues with that one?

sour shadow
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Never heard of it

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If you're in North America (or not) I can highly recommend Tube's devices, in Europe Electrolama's devices are good

hybrid cloud
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yeah im in the us, was looking at tube's too, but that one ooks sold out right now

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also, do the zigbee dongles need to have a firmware flashed to work with zha (some or all) or is it mostly plug and play and just following the integration guide

austere patio
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They'll need to be running coordinator firmware. Most that you buy online are going to be pre-flashed but flashing just involves plugging it into a USB port and running a Python script, it's not very difficult.

robust forum
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Zigbee newb here, does all AC wired Zigbee devices act as a mesh node to relay? Do you need to do anything to force end devices to connect to a nearer mesh node (looking to add in a mesh node just to have the end node battery life extended).

sour shadow
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Mostly, but not entirely

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Sengled bulbs don't, and many 2-wire light switches/dimmers don't

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Some end devices will change parent when they feel like it, others won't ever change (particularly common with pre-Zigbee 3.0 Xiaomi stuff)

robust forum
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Is there a Zigbee router(?) that I can buy that will act as a mesh node?

sour shadow
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Not sure I understand the question, any router will be a node in the mesh...

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You can't buy a Zigbee device that's not going to be a node in the mesh

robust forum
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As in, a separate wired unit dedicated just to be a mesh node, as opposed to something like an outlet or a switch.

sour shadow
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Sure, there's a range of them of varying quality. The Ikea ones are ok, though buying a CC2652 based device and flashing it with router firmware will give you one of the best dedicated router devices you can buy

robust forum
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Oh, cool. Didn't know I could just buy a CC2652 device and flash the router firmware.

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Do you have a link to the router firmware? My google-fu is failing me.

sour shadow
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check if there is a router firmware by clicking on your adapter

mighty river
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hi all i am neew in zigbe and home assistant. but already i need some help. i bought popular wall plug TS011F TZ3000_gjnozsaz. i managed somehow configutre zigbee gateway (sonoff zigbee) with tasmota and i connected my wall plug to HA. but it seems (as i read on other forums that my wall plug needs firmware upgrade to remember state after opwer failure. i tried to find how can i upgrade firmware but I can't understant what i have to do. can someone explain me or point to any tutorial howe to do it?

sour shadow
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Are you using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

mighty river
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ZHA

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is it bad that i use ZHA?

sour shadow
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No

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I don't use ZHA, I can't help you with it

mighty river
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is is possible that any one can help me hrere or i just use some "noob" integration and i should change?

sour shadow
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Somebody else will be able to help you, have a little patience

mighty river
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ok thx i will wait.

molten linden
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if you have the FW file you'll want to add the otau_directory to your config and then make sure you drop the fw into the folder you define. Restart HA so it's picked up and when the device checks for FW it will update. Tuya stuff is a pain in the ass too 🤷🏼‍♂️

mighty river
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i was looking on tasmota help pages. ant all tutoorials was very complicated. i will try this one it looks easy. (i hope)

mellow geode
molten linden
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tasmota would be just running the serial connection over IP and really not doing anything with the zigbee side of things

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if you have zha set up

random shell
sour shadow
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You should ask everybody who uses their WiFi stuff zany

molten linden
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lets start with a couple hundred model numbers like this TZ3000_gjnozsaz

tropic depot
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lol

random shell
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ah, wifi.

random shell
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or thousands of new versions

tropic depot
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Tuya isn't the one releasing the devices

random shell
molten linden
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every different manufacturer adds their own random string

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and since they don't follow any specs

tropic depot
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they have a platform that lets any jerk create a zigbee firmware

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and they generally get cots features then modify them

sour shadow
tropic depot
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so 20 different TS0041 devices exist

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and they all do different stuff

sour shadow
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I mean, Xiaomi is known for being troublesome, but I'd take them over either Sonoff or Tuya any day

tropic depot
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it's a nightmare

molten linden
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literally need "magic spells" to make their stuff work 😂

random shell
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why? i did order their temperature/humidity sensors along with Sonoff and Aqara. i have heard tha Aqara is non-compliant (cause compatibility issues) and have problems with range

tropic depot
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they also WANT you to use their cloud

brittle maple
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I have an Ikea 5 Button end device that shows in visualization as an Orphan (no connections to a router/coordinator) but it still works - can someone explain why this is the case? This is using ZHA.

tropic depot
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the visualization is not real time

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topology is refreshed on an interval

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I forget the default

random shell
tropic depot
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it's something like every 30 or 60 mins IIRC

sour shadow
molten linden
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depends on the router to report its children too.

tropic depot
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give it a few mins based on the size of the network then leave the screen and return

brittle maple
tropic depot
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yes

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also... this is really a debugging tool... no need to have any anxiety if things are working 🙂

brittle maple
sour shadow
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Then you don't want to use Z-Wave, where the map is a work of fiction

tropic depot
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lol

random shell
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@sour shadow could you please tell me what is the problem with all of them? i did check online and aqara temperature sensors have problems with range and compatibility in general causing them dropoff due to 'different timeout' (did i get that right?)

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haven't found complains about others

tropic depot
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aqara devices are actually very good

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they just don't play well with all other devices

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some have 0 issues

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some will drop them

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but they are generally accurate, they have very good battery life, well made, generally look good

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etc

random shell
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10$ for aqara (buying x2), 7$ tuya (buying x2), or 7.5$ sonoff (buying x1 but bundled with their dongle). price difference does not matter as long as it does not cause issues

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even if it would be 20-30$ i guess

tropic depot
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sonoff devices are huge and have terrible battery life from what I have seen

sour shadow
tropic depot
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tuya... i wont give them my money because they make my hobby hell

sour shadow
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For Sonoff, many reports of battery life issues, and sensors just stopping reporting

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Tuya, well, they also chew batteries and getting them working is a pain

random shell
random shell
obsidian sandalBOT
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@random shell When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

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random shell
sour shadow
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Were you paying attention to the channel for the last half hour?

mighty river
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how long should i wait after configuring zha to auto update for my wall plug to recive new firmware?

tropic depot
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unplug it

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and plug it back in and it should check

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there is a service call to make too to have the device check but I don't recall the parameters

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Tube may

mighty river
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i know i read it already on github

random shell
mighty river
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ieee: <device_ieee>
endpoint_id: 1
cluster_type: out
command_type: client
cluster_id: 25
command: 0
args:

  • 0
  • 100
sour shadow
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It is, in short, a shit show

mighty river
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after unpluging and pluging back nothing happened. i checked logs for cat home-assistant.log | egrep 'zigpy.ota|zigpy.util|zigpy.*OTA' and logs are empty

tropic depot
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did you try the service?

mighty river
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not yet

molten linden
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TS0601 is literally at least a dozen different products from gas sensors to covers to radiator valves. 🤦‍♂️

molten linden
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to see the OTA stuff

mighty river
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i did

random shell
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WT004 is the Temperature sensors i ordered, power strip with wifi (???), some hub and i have no idea what else

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oh my god. such vendor

mighty river
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i have this in logs 2022-05-12 22:20:18 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.ota.provider] OTA image directory '/config/zigpy_ota' does not exist
2022-05-12 22:20:18 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.ota.provider] Trådfri: OTA provider enabled
2022-05-12 22:20:18 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.ota.provider] Ledvance: OTA provider enabled
2022-05-12 22:20:18 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.ota.provider] Ledvance: Finished downloading firmware update list
2022-05-12 22:20:18 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.ota.provider] Trådfri: Finished downloading firmware update list
2022-05-12 22:38:44 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.util] Duplicate 35 TSN
2022-05-12 22:38:45 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.util] Duplicate 36 TSN

random shell
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is there a 'Home Assistant Sensors From Hell' or something like that?

sour shadow
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See: Tuya

mighty river
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i created missing folder , restarted ha but still noting. i will try manual update from github

random shell
sour shadow
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Sonoff 😛

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The answer though is complex, because rarely is an entire brand bad, often it's parts of the range, or only in conjunction with some other brand, or ...

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Some people have trouble with Xiaomi (which play loose with the Zigbee spec) because they have routers that play loose with the Zigbee spec in a way that makes them incompatible

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Others don't

mighty river
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2022-05-12 23:00:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x480E:1:0x0019] OTA query_next_image handler for '_TZ3000_gjnozsaz TS011F': field_control=FieldControl.0, manufacture_id=4417, image_type=54179, current_file_version=68, hardware_version=None, model=TS011F
2022-05-12 23:00:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x480E:1:0x0019] No OTA image is available