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worthy wedge
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kk on it

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thanks man

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dont ya wish that button was on the outside, my hands are sweating profusely ; watch me break it

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lol

austere patio
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If you flash it with router firmware, it'll become a router. You could join it to any Zigbee network, it doesn't care if it's on a network managed by Z2M.

primal blade
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Can I have that and flash as a coordinator? I only have that stick and battery sensors. Would I be able to have only a router and no coordinator? Or with my setup need to have something plugged into the computer running z2m?

austere patio
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Without something plugged into a computer, you have no way to talk to the mesh

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Sensors can connect directly to the coordinator

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It's just that when you add routers (e.g. lightbulbs, switchable outlets, most things that are always plugged in), they let you move sensors farther away

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You don't necessarily need a second USB stick flashed with router firmware

primal blade
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Ok, thanks. For now I got it working plugged in to the computer without changing firmware. From what I picked up looking around I would need a windows computer to flash new firmware. Is that correct or is there a way using linux?

austere patio
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What stick are you using?

primal blade
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sonoff 3.0 usb plus.

austere patio
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Which is cross-platform

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pip install git+https://github.com/JelmerT/cc2538-bsl intelhex and cc2538-bsl.py -evw -p /dev/serial/by-id/... firmware.hex

primal blade
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ok thanks. I had to download a .docx word file and open it with an online text editor to read the installation instructions.
BTW where can I find uartLog.py? It will sasve me unscrewing 4 screws to get to the button to reach the bootloader. Everywhere I look it talks about it being linked but I don't see any links (I'm just missing something)...

austere patio
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uartLog.py?

primal blade
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.zip sorry

austere patio
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I'm not sure I follow, where is this .zip file coming from?

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Oh, it's some random script for the Sonoff stick

primal blade
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I think its maybe in the docx file I cant open. I am just trying to get into flash mode without finding my small screwdriver set to open it to push the button. For some reason there is no hole to push something through for the button.

austere patio
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As in, download https://raw.githubusercontent.com/guozi7788/cc2538-bsl/master/cc2538-bsl.py and run that last command but add sonoff at the end. It doesn't look like it has any Windows-specific code.

primal blade
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Thanks, It worked. I had a few bumps (missing intelhex etc..) but its all working now.

austere patio
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Awesome. If you can, leave a comment in the GitHub issue letting the maintainer know it works.

primal blade
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Working on it now.

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Next job (another day) is to move it to my pi4 hopefully will work without issues.

worthy wedge
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once an individual does a firmware update on a coordinator and plugs it back in. Is it normal behavior to see 2 coordinators in ZHA ; 1 is unkown manuf , unknw ; with all their previous devices attached to it and then a 2nd coordinator with 0 devices attached to it .

primal blade
sudden crest
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Any clue why a shutdown of the raspi host (and thus core) would turn off a few but not all power plugs?

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Same with system crash which unfortunately happens sometimes I find a few but again not all plugs powered off.

ivory hound
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@austere patioyou are a great man

median jasper
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How do I completely remove Z2M ? Want a fresh start and something is hanging... after new install and config it starts and no errors on the addon, opening web UI and then see loading, please wait and have been like that for 30 minutes now.

sour shadow
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Removing the add-on should be all you need to do

jolly narwhal
median jasper
sour shadow
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I don't use add-ons, no idea

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I prefer to have full actual control

sweet cypress
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Hey guys, anyone that has Aqara roller shade e1 working with ZHA and a Conbee1 stick?
Also, is it possible to get the temperature vaules back in ZHA from aqara door and motion sensors?

near echo
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Unless there is a new version - don't think Aqara door & motion sensor report temps.

violet dagger
near echo
violet dagger
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new version is barely working right now

near echo
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ah okay. actually I think Aqara should think of adding a proximity sensor rather than temps

violet dagger
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that's a thought best directed towards aqara support, i doubt they're watching this discord

near echo
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yep, that's just a thought, I would rather build my own than going all the way to aqara 🙂

violet dagger
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i'd be extremely impressed if you managed to replicate the aqara sensor with proximity sensor added

sweet cypress
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I only get open/close and battery status from my door sensors

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i did get temp with deconz tho

jolly narwhal
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With Xiaomi sensors @sweet cypress ?

sweet cypress
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yes

jolly narwhal
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I have had temperature with mine in zigbee2mqtt for years at least

sweet cypress
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yeah, i guess a option would be to migrate to zigbee2mqtt from zha

jolly narwhal
sweet cypress
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thing is i have the conbee1 stick, and not sure its very good for z2m. i have ordered a TI CC2652R tho

jolly narwhal
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That is definitely an upgrade

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The Conbee is... Eh

sweet cypress
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and hoping i can get the aqara shade roller working with that

soft plover
stable thicket
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i have 2 raspberry pi´s with seperate HA Instances and a Sonoff Tasmota flashed Wifi Bridge (Hub). Is is possible to use on one HA Raspi zha and on the other Z2M with the same bridge as coordinator?

jolly narwhal
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I'd say no, you would be better off using z2m from somewhere and share a mqtt server between them

stable thicket
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ok, same mqtt server is possible but not the same bridge?

jolly narwhal
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I don't know that bridge, but it makes more sense to have one state machine than two

stable thicket
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ok. idea was to only use this for my dev system and testing purposes.

jolly narwhal
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Then, why use two different integrations?

stable thicket
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zha is on my main system. i want to give z2m a second try. but if i do it on my main system the WAF (women acceptance factor) will go red. 🙂

jolly narwhal
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Why will it go red?

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I've been running Z2M for over 2 years, with zero downtime

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That I didn't cause myself

stable thicket
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my gilfriend will go in alarm mode (red) if something goes wrong. had this topic last week as tried z2m on live system and it didn´t work as expected.

jolly narwhal
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Migrating 60+ devices to z2m for my last migration took around 45 minutes, hasn't been down since

glossy canopy
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Hello every one, so I migrated 17 hue lights and 3 dimmer switches from my hue hub to ZHA using a Conbee II yesterday and I’m getting quite a lot of lag and commands not working, for example when activating a scene that would make the living room lights go to 15% brightness and warm white 1 or 2 bulbs dim but don’t change color. I’ve tried HA light groups and ZHA groups but both yield the same results..

Setup wise the conbee is 50ish cm from the PC, set to the least populated channel and I paired each bulb in its final location.
Any ideas as to what could be causing this behaviour ? I had no problems when using the hue hub but would like a 100% local setup if possible…
When looking at the visualisation I see a lot of red lines idk if that had anything to do with it.. house isn’t very big.. any input is appreciated !

stable thicket
jolly narwhal
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These days I have 120+ devices though

stable thicket
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i guess it was not a problem with the amount of devices. maybe a misconfiguration with mqtt/z2m.

cerulean abyss
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Is it easy to move Z2Mqtt from one device to another device

lilac wharf
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Yep

cerulean abyss
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How do you do it

lilac wharf
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Copy the config dir over

cerulean abyss
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Oh really easy 😂

jolly narwhal
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Or run the config dir in a network shared volume

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Ha failover

cerulean abyss
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Wait that works?

jolly narwhal
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Well yes

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Anything works

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If you know what you are doing

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You could host the filesystem in Canberra and Tokyo and run the server in Mumbai

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If you so were inclined

inland coral
glossy canopy
inland coral
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Definitely not bad routers, these hue light bulbs are quality. Are your walls concrete lol?

mental path
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Hi! Help pls:)
Trying to implement custom_zha_quirks .
In one code update i change manufacturer_attribute type from
int32s to uint32_t

I'v got an error "-3 is not an unsigned 32 bit integer" - that is ok.
I change back variable type, restart HA and... got error again.

I try to remove pycache, zha and zygbee db, restarting HA docker, remove zygbee device and pair it again.. nothing, i still got that error.

inland coral
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If you have just set it up, it might take a little bit of time until the mesh network optimises itself. You could also try DeConz instead kf ZHA, as thats specifically for the conbee coorinators

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…although i use conbee 2 with ZHA and it works fine

trim bay
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I know this question is very subjective, but does if feel for other that Zigbee is not as stable as Z-Wave?
I have both a Zigbee and a Z-Wave network and it looks to me that zigbee devices are not good at going through walls and reconnecting to a node when they are in range.
I have a hub and 2 mains connected sonoff devices so it would create a decent mesh but it's still fairly unstable.

arctic lark
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more people have this problem when you try to open the phoscon web app after the deconz update ? (
Please wait until the search for gateways has finished.)

jolly narwhal
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I have had no issues with ZigBee devices @trim bay

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And I dropped zwave early on

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2 mains connected routers... Aren't much

glossy canopy
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I do get a bunch of 
No response to 'Command.aps_data_indication' command with seq id '0x90'

Warnings in my logs with difference ids at the end

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From the zigby_deconz.api

sterile sleet
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that is garbage from the conbee

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should run regardless

jolly narwhal
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Conbee garbage you say

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I concur doctor

sterile sleet
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what?

glossy canopy
sterile sleet
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yes

glossy canopy
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Ok thanks !
Is there anything I can do to get more green lines on the map ?

ivory hound
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100% hater here 🙂

drowsy meteor
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Can remotes like the hue dimmers control devices/groups directly? I know that the Ikea remotes are sometimes paired to bulbs by default. Therefore I was wondering if something similar can be achieved with ZHA

jolly narwhal
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Sure, by using HA automations

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You can do whatever you want

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Let your hue dimmer turn on your car

drowsy meteor
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no, I mean basically skipping the bridge/router for simple tasks like toggling a light (mainly for rooms that are far away from the bridge where my dimmers don't always react when pressed)

jolly narwhal
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Well, yes

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The same principle

vestal atlas
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Yes, you can bind the remotes directly to lights or groups

jolly narwhal
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Not all devices support binding though

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There is no reason to bind imho though

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HA automations are instantaneous

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And if your HA instance is down for some reason, that is a you problem

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The 30 seconds it takes to upgrade HA or whatever ZigBee integration you are using shouldn't be hard to avoid major usage

drowsy meteor
drowsy meteor
# jolly narwhal HA automations are instantaneous

yes, but for that the signal from the remote has to get to HA first. Probably because of the way my house is constructed the signal of the remote doesn't get to where it needs to be frequently. I'm trying to fix that without tearing my house down.

vestal atlas
drowsy meteor
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I'll give that a search

jolly narwhal
vestal atlas
jolly narwhal
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If anything stops working you are doing it wrong DogeWink

odd mango
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This one, however, failed in a couple of weeks.

glossy canopy
ivory hound
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yah, conbee clearly the best

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💩

worthy wedge
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after a zigbee firmware update ; my existing devices are all unavailable ?

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how can I rebind ?

austere patio
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Are you using ZHA?

worthy wedge
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yes

austere patio
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If you didn't do a network backup before upgrading the firmware, all of the settings were erased. Unless you had ZHA debug logging enabled in the past, there's no way to recover them.

worthy wedge
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they were working last night puddly remember you helped me get the firmware update working

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i woke up this morning and its like just the aqara e1 sensor is up and running

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all the other devices are pointing to unkn manuf ;

austere patio
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The entities may still be around but unless you did a network backup/restore, your network settings were erased with the flasher's -e flag

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And ZHA picked random ones when the network started up again

worthy wedge
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so for future reference ; I should do a network backup ; firmware update ; then restore correct ? will google where to find that

austere patio
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It'll be built into ZHA in the near future, hopefully before you next have to upgrade the firmware

worthy wedge
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so side question ; in Manage Clusters ; Device Binding ; it seemed like this is where my solution was in my mind ; what is this area specifically mean if it isn't what i think it was

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I wanted to select Binding to the 2nd "Cordinator" rather than the unknown one which seems like stale data

austere patio
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Binding lets you tell two Zigbee devices to do things directly (e.g. hook a button up to a light bulb), so they'll still work even if the coordinator is offline or your automations aren't running

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It's like a primitive automation

worthy wedge
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ahhhh gotcha

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ok ty

echo yarrow
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any preferred motion sensors that are relaible? I've got an Aqara one I'm playing with right now and it seems to not change states reliably.

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can go zigbee or zwave.

sour shadow
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Had no issues with Aqara

echo yarrow
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just want something with a long battery life, and that works. just put this thing in the pantry to sense someone entering the pantry and it's not changing states reliably.

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watching it on zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
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That sounds like a signal issue

echo yarrow
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I moved the tubezhub closer.

sour shadow
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All of mine, also on Z2M, work 100% of the time

echo yarrow
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yeah, have an older samsung/smart things one a few feet away to sense motion in the kitchen and that thing works great, but you can't get those anymore.

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I just relocated the tubez coordinator to a more central location, hopefully it's a signal issue.

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I think that may have done the trick.

unborn drift
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Hey,i need help, im stuck on setting up my CC2531 it is stuck on Loading, please wait

austere patio
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What integration are you using?

unborn drift
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Zigbee2mqtt

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can it be issue with login and password of MQTT broker ?

jolly narwhal
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Also

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Get another stick

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🥳

unborn drift
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i think it should work on this one too :d

reef sable
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I have a Conbee II that just connects/disconnects in windows and GCFFlasher cant find any FTDI devices. Anyone that has had something similar?

austere patio
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Try plugging it into a USB extension cable when flashing

reef sable
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It's the same in my Unraid machine (Where i have it passed through to a VM running HA)

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I thought the problem was with an update in HA because zigbee just started acting strange, being slow to respond and only lights worked, no buttons/sensors. So did a lot of work to get zigbee2mqtt working and could add the device but then stopped working. Then i saw the zigbee2mqtt log stating that it lost the Conbee, and in Unraids log file it sure enough said "connected..." "disconnected...." over and over

austere patio
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Problems with the Conbee after a HA update are normal, it doesn't like being restarted

rotund brook
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I have some issues pairing this device with my zigbee2mqtt zzh usb stick on HA-addon.
I am following the instructions, but it never starts fading - unless I remove paperclip. Then it starts flashing, but no sync to z2m.
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/E1603_E1702_E1708.html
Anyone know of another procedure?

jolly narwhal
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I have four of those

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With zigbee2mqtt and zzh

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Paired the latest yesterday

rotund brook
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Im reading the manual, and it says 5 seconds to facotry reset.

jolly narwhal
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Z2m in pair allow, 5 seconds paperclip, then release

rotund brook
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does it have a really bad antenna on the ikea device? how close do I have to be?

jolly narwhal
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Paired immediately

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You should pair it where it is supposed to be installed, like any ZigBee device

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If your mesh doesn't reach it, you need intermediate devices

rotund brook
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I have tried 1.5meters clear air

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to the zzh

jolly narwhal
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It should join the closest router

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Child devices of the coordinator shouldn't be many

rotund brook
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just to be sure, you do the 5 seconds paperclip while its powered up?

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or while plugging in?

jolly narwhal
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While powered up

rotund brook
jolly narwhal
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Have you enabled pairing?

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Then I would try restarting zigbee2mqtt

rotund brook
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yes

Info Zigbee: allowing new devices to join.
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/response/permit_join', payload '{"data":{"time":254,"value":true},"status":"ok","transaction":"qf38c-3"}'
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i did restart z2m

jolly narwhal
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Yeah, no issues with them here

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Never acted up either

rotund brook
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how close are you to the device you are pairing with?

jolly narwhal
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I have 12 routers probably within 2 meters

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To the one I paired yesterday

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5 metres to the coordinator, and probably 12+ end devices within 3 meters

rotund brook
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ok weird.

jolly narwhal
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Yeah, tradfri is solid to me

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I have probably 70+ tradfri devices

rotund brook
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The only issues I had with trådfri was pairing, but that time it wasnt in line of sighr

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this time its clear sight

jolly narwhal
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Line of sight of what?

rotund brook
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zzh and the other ikea device

jolly narwhal
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Shouldn't have to be

rotund brook
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nope :/ I dont get it working

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Zigbee2mqtt
Current version: 1.22.1-1

jolly narwhal
rotund brook
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i have 5 other ikea devices, no problems with them

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grr

gritty geyser
# reef sable Tried that, no difference

Had the same issue yesterday/today.
Had to unplug Conbee II from my RPI4, connect it to my windows machine, find the com port and start GCFFlasher to reset
Updated deconz on homeassistant to 6.11.1, reboot homeassistant RPI host, cleanup browser cache, bring stick back to RPI 4

jolly narwhal
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Ooof conbee

reef sable
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Although using Linux (popOS) I was able to flash the firmware no problem. But I think the real problem was the USB port…

gritty geyser
reef sable
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Well I don’t think my extension is 3.0? At least I know it doesn’t support 3.0 transfer speed

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But yes, quite embarrassing and stupid issue… after days of having a down zigbee network and a few frustrating times trying to debug the problem… thinking HA update is the problem, then ZHA, then update the firmware on the conbee, then install zigbee2mqtt just to see the problem is in unraid… so google and people install older firmware… so install Linux cuz windows sucks… flash firmware and then realize the problem is the usb port

marsh steeple
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I've specially for the USB3.0 2.4Ghz interference issues an USB2.0 hub for my Zigbee dongle

crude otter
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they are about 4m from the coordinator, and 3m or so from a signal repeater

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2 devices that i basically said "these will be reliable, because they are zigbee and from ikea"

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now the wife thinks im an idiot.. well, its another reason the wife thinks im an idiot.

jolly narwhal
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Which devices?

crude otter
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window blind

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and the remote that came with it

jolly narwhal
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Oh, I have never used those

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Bulbs, outlets, buttons, no issues in two+ years

crude otter
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they (were) work(ing) great

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yeah, the 2 bulbs in the kitchen work well

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and the dimmer for them

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and the signal repeaters seem to be solid

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i could swear i had better 'LQI' before the recent HA updates though

jolly narwhal
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Lqi is just a magic number anyway

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Don't take heed

cerulean abyss
sour shadow
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Varies from chipset to chipset, but it's something between an indicator of the signal quality (strength and lack of interference) and a wild ass guess

cunning fable
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hi all, sorry if this is asked a lot, but do you prefer ZHA or deconz? I've previously used deconz but have had to reset. I've setup in ZHA now as thought it would be better direct and slightly worried I'll need to setup in deconz again. One thing I've lost is the ability to use hue essentials for example

sour shadow
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Wrong question

The right question is Zigbee2MQTT or ZHA - where it's personal preference

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What is Hue Essentials though?

cunning fable
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so prefer dropping deconz? 🙂

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it's a hue-esque app that is compatible with deconz gateways, so has light specific functions like a 'party mode' where lights change to music etc, mostly gimmick stuff, but I give people this app instead of setting them up a full home-assistant user

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thank you for the response, I'll persist getting used to ZHA if it's the supported way going forward, I think it's just because I'm a bit unfamiliar 😄

sour shadow
cunning fable
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aha! that's the missing piece, tyvm, hue essentials supports 'diyHue' gateway too

junior viper
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Hi all, what can I do if MQTT is not discovered in my integrations? Using Z2M

sour shadow
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Set it up?

junior viper
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How? Specifying the URL manually? mqtt://core-mosquito

sour shadow
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If you mean in Z2M, then yes

junior viper
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No, using the MQTT integration. Z2M communicates with MQTT already

sour shadow
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You'd simply specify

mqtt:
  broker: core-mosquitto
copper solar
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heeeeeeeeelp ! need to get my zigbee network back up... i've been trying to fix stuff and i disabled ZHA and then re-enabled... now all devices seem disabled and I can't seem to re-enable !

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usb is dev/ttyACM0

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devices show as "The device is disabled by Config entry."

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aha !!!

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i just had to "reconfigure device" then it allowed me to re-enable !

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but I need to do that on all of them... about 20

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seems I've got a bit of work to do...

ivory hound
copper solar
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quite

bronze pewter
copper solar
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deconz conbee II

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or is that just "conbee II"

bronze pewter
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I’ve been troubleshooting my zha/conbee issues for a couple days now.

copper solar
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it's a conbee II anyway... haha

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nice

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i'm in the process of converting my wifi HA devices to zigbee !

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mainly sonoff basics to the zigbee version

covert matrix
ivory hound
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seriously Microsoft should hire the marketing department of deconz

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wtf is with everybody and conbee sticks

violet dagger
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good google ads placement?

ivory hound
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good marketing and very bad product

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and is easily to get one that is the main thing

violet dagger
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its probably that, it is available in many stores

copper solar
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hey - that's interesting to me, should I swap out my deconz II with someting else - if so what ?

bronze pewter
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Easy to get for sure was a draw for me

violet dagger
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replace it with something really hard to get right now 😉

bronze pewter
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My CC died last year and I could next day a conbee

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Any thoughts on the new sonoff usb rig? That looks neat

ivory hound
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@copper solarat this point you can't go wrong, maybe if you get a CC2531

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but even that is better in some cases

violet dagger
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so far the 3.0 sonoff stick is fine

copper solar
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i'll have a look thanks

ivory hound
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@copper solarwhat integration you use?

copper solar
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3.0 sonoff is better than conbee II - why's that ?

bronze pewter
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What was the tube thing mentioned in integrations?

copper solar
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using ZHA integration

violet dagger
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its new and has a better chip with better support

ivory hound
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any Silicon Labs EmberZNet based

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but maybe search for something on both lists ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT

copper solar
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thanks @violet dagger

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and hell

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hellcry

ivory hound
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search for something that works on zha and zigbee2mqtt

copper solar
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as a replacement for the conbee

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not a "stick" as such

ivory hound
bronze pewter
ivory hound
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that is the best i ever had for ZHA

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updated firmware just works flawless

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id doesn't work on z2m

cerulean abyss
bronze pewter
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Whatever is going on all of a sudden with my setup on zha and conbee is making me want to flip to z2m just to see if I can sort it

ivory hound
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@bronze pewter trust me is not ZHA, is the Conbee

cerulean abyss
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@bronze pewter have you updated the firmware on the conbee?

bronze pewter
bronze pewter
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Rolled back to 11.5, no change.

cerulean abyss
bronze pewter
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My ikea powered devices all dropped essentially

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Moved to 12 on dec 14, ikea stuff was flaking out, kids and life got in the way, downgraded to 11.5 yesterday, no change.

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Then ran the firmware update on the stick last night

cerulean abyss
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Hmm if you can try Z2Mqtt as I think that works better with conbee than ZHA

bronze pewter
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And today my plan was to burn it all down and start over with either zha or z2m again

cerulean abyss
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But if you can look at buying something better in the meantime

bronze pewter
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Yeah likely will order that sonoff stick if I can squeeze it past the Christmas budget. 😂

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Wife finally got used to all the motion lights in the basement so I have her on side at least now.

copper solar
ivory hound
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i doubt it

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the best in class is zigbee2mqtt Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! (zzh!)

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and

lilac wharf
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That sonoff stick is the same chip (but with a power amplifier)

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It's a good choice

ivory hound
copper solar
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tks

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in the meantime i've updated my conbee firmware

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13:31:09:472 GW firmware version is up to date: 0x26680700

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previiusly was on 13:12:15:496 Device firmware version 0x264A0700 ConBee II

bronze pewter
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interestingly.. my stick is showing offline in map

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i deleted the ZHA integration, rebooted the Pi, let it add again, and it had a record of all the previous devices, so that was clearly not how to burn it down. but also, interesting it detected the stick but shows offline

bronze pewter
copper solar
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ocker run -it --rm --entrypoint "/firmware-update.sh" --privileged --cap-add=ALL -v /dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2149812-if00:/dev/ttyACM0 -v /lib/modules:/lib/modules -v /sys:/sys marthoc/deconz

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docker not ocker!

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strangely HA is reporting it as a RaspBee II

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but it's a conbee

bronze pewter
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are you running HA/ZHA on a pi or in a vm?

cerulean abyss
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Pretty sure ZHA and conbee are not great. Avoid if possible (Z2Mqtt or deconz)

copper solar
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HA is in a docker....

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@cerulean abyss running ok, but I hear you, maybe will swap it out

bronze pewter
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is there a way to totally delete the whole zigbee setup from HA

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i have ZHA, want to start from scratch

sand egret
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Hi 👋 - got a push switch not connecting to ZHA. It's a https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Tuya_TS0041.html pretty sure. Seems only to stay in pairing mode (flashy flashy) while switch is held down 😆 I've put a weight on it but no luck...tried close to a router and the coordinator. Put old battery from scales in it, might be too low will try a fresh one. Get some weird "ignoring unrecognised message" in the logs, but it seems to be coming from a cc2351 I have router based on the IEEE address, getting them from time to time. Any ideas?

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@bronze pewter you can uninstall the integration and add it again I think? if that doesnt work, delete zigbee.db using the file editor add on before adding zha again...I did this earlier today should work.

bronze pewter
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That did the trick to reset zha.

ivory hound
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@bronze pewter to reset ZHA as you wish you need to delete integration stop home assistant and delete zigbee db from ha config folder

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then you are truly starting from 0

lilac wharf
# ivory hound now that's just horse shit

That...seems like an overreaction. But yeah, conbee + z2m is actually the troublesome combo. From what I've seen it's very hit or miss. Either way, something CC2652-based like the new sonoff zb 3.0 stick, ZZH, slaesh's stick, etc. is a good choice for both ZHA and z2m

bronze pewter
reef aurora
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my zigbee2mqtt add-on is stuck loading

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Failed to call 'Bridge' 'start' (TypeError: Cannot read property 'manufacturerID' of undefined

reef aurora
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ive tried a deconz and cc2531 adapter, both had the same results

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what am i doing wrong?

jolly narwhal
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Did you flash the cc2531? Also, is that supposed to work with deconz at all?

abstract dust
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random question - is it possible to attach a usb dongle to a system that's not your main HA system and map it across the network?

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my HA server runs in a VM on a server in the basement - it's not exactly in the best location to get a signal to other parts of the house

tropic depot
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Yes but it’s not recommended. The additional latency is not a good thing for zigbee networks

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If the communication is lan based it may be manageable

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I wouldn’t bother with WiFi

jolly narwhal
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Yes @abstract dust that is how I run it

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Via zigbee2mqtt

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There is no noticeable latency, ZigBee actions happen before I finish opening a door

tropic depot
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lan based right?

jolly narwhal
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Hard wired yes

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Albeit to a pi 🤢

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But works

tropic depot
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still better than wifi

jolly narwhal
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I had it on WiFi earlier, no major issues there either

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Only ran that for two weeks or so

tropic depot
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environment specific... when that sonoff thing came out it caused nightmares

jolly narwhal
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No extension cord on the zzh either

reef aurora
abstract dust
austere patio
abstract dust
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I don't actually have any ZigBee hardware yet, but I suspect it's something in going to run into soon enough

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Right - I'd totally forgotten about socat

austere patio
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ZHA supports TCP-serial servers with the socket:// the protocol, Z2M with tcp://

abstract dust
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Excellent

flat rock
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Just got a Zigbee radio and am trying to set it up. dmesg gives me an output of over 2,000 lines... is there any way to narrow it down so I can find where my adapter is mounted?
Think I got it.

flat rock
sour shadow
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Did you try using the IP of the host with the broker?

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Rather than relying on it resolving mqtt

flat rock
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I was just about to try that. You mean in configuration.yaml, right?

sour shadow
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Yes

flat rock
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Let me give that a try.

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That gave me a much longer log file, haha. I'll pastebin it.

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I actually can't even grab the whole log.

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Oh, I'm noticing that's including the previous logs too, shoulda figured that.

sour shadow
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zigbee2mqtt    | Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-12-21 13:46:52: Configuration is not consistent with adapter state/backup!
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You may want to look into the tail command, or other options for only seeing the last few dozen lines

flat rock
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That could be helpful.

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Thanks for that tip, that'll make log checking a lot easier.

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Hmmm, looking into that error...

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Must of what I'm seeing is related to the PAN ID not matching, but it does in my case. Hmm.

opaque pike
#

does the Z2M binding from the UI not work? Do i need to configure it through yaml? I cannot make either my Hue Wall Switch module or Hue Dimmer Switch bind to a light group

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Failed to bind cluster 'genOnOff' from 'Hue wall switch module 1' to 'kontor_lampe' (Error: Bind 0x001788010b008355/1 genOnOff from '2' failed (waiting for response TIMEOUT))

austere patio
flat rock
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Trying to find where I'd specify that in configuration.yaml

austere patio
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They're in the advanced section, I believe. Why'd they change? Did you try a new stick with ZHA and then move it back to Z2M?

flat rock
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I have no idea why they'd be different

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I've never had a zigbee stick before, just got a brand new one, plugged it in, and here we are

austere patio
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Re-flash its firmware

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It you haven't used it

flat rock
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Yeah, I haven't. I'll look into how to do that.

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Well, I flashed it, I think. I'm not entirely sure how to double check it's "alive," lol

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it is supposed to blink when I plug it in - it's not

mossy fern
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I want to update the firmware of my Eurotronics spirit Zigbee radiator valves. I found the instruction to do this with deCONZ here: https://github.com/EUROTRONIC-Technology/Spirit-ZigBee/wiki/OTA-update-guide-via-deCONZ. Can I also somehow do this via ZHA? If not, can I just take the Conbee stick from my NAS, put it into my laptop to update via deCONZ and put it back? Or would that require me to re-pair everything (which I want to avoid obviously)

molten linden
mossy fern
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So it works the same as for the IKEA stuff, just that it does not auto download it?

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Then how do I trigger it to pick up the file? I tried to send image_notify, but that does not seem to work

molten linden
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you have to restart HA after adding the FW so it knows it's there

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and then it just will happen in the background when the device checks.

arctic valley
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Is this a good place to ask questions about XBee?

storm lagoon
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Grrr... So I've been pairing a bunch of Zigbee devices to my new Zigbee stick. It works with a lot of the devices, but some (namely a Ikea E1743 switch and a Ikea https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/LED1836G9.html bulb) are resistant. Note that I managed to pair with identical devices, but not these particular two.
I factory reset e.g. the bulb according to instructions. The bulb "breathes" intensity, so it's trying to pair. I "permit join (all)" on Zigbee2mqtt, the bulb is <10 cm from the Zigbee stick. The stick shows green LED, indicating pairing. But after about 90s the bulb stops "breathing" and seems to give up pairing.

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Any suggestions how to troubleshoot? Note, I've about 24h of HA/Z2M experience

flat rock
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I'm trying to forward a new stick to my docker container and there's this in the compose:

    image: homeassistant/raspberrypi3-homeassistant```
How do I find which image I'm running if I'm user the container version?
storm lagoon
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This is what I get in the log when I permit join, then factory reset the bulb

Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/request/permit_join' with data '{"device":null,"time":254,"transaction":"d1u3t-3","value":true}'
Info Zigbee: allowing new devices to join.
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/response/permit_join', payload '{"data":{"time":254,"value":true},"status":"ok","transaction":"d1u3t-3"}'
Debug Saving state to file /config/zigbee2mqtt/state.json

cold obsidian
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@austere patio got the issue with the CC2652RB-stick again, as the power was lost an my raspberry and so it had a hard shutdown

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but now, I even didn't get it flashed again. Got an Error like ERROR: Timeout waiting for ACK/NACK after 'Synch (0x55 0x55)' or ERROR: bytearray index out of range

mossy fern
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It seems like I got it to work were it not for
OTA image version: 19055488, size: 185294. Update needed: False Seems like it is already up to date with the image I found

storm lagoon
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Huh. I can see the non-pairing bulb via Touchlink. I can get it to identify itself, and it reacts to Factory Reset. But still no connection to the Zigbee net...

mossy fern
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How do I check for the current firmware version? I retrieved the sw_build_id from the Basic cluster and it says 18181120 so I find it strabge that it says it does not need an update when the OTA image version is 19055488

austere patio
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Can you try an older version? pip install zigpy-znp==0.5.4, the same commands should work.

fossil spear
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What is the better choices of zigbee 3.0 usb sticks that is more accessible in the united states?

wanton bobcat
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Hey there - wondering if someone can help me understand this a bit.

I'm trying to understand if my custom Zigbee router devices are working or not. They show a LQI in the Zigbee2Mqtt frontend, but they also show "Last Seen: 4 months ago". I moved to a new house about ~2 months ago and the LQI of most of my devices is pretty rough (which leads me to believe that these two extra routers are not working). Also when trying to load the map its showing a "failed to load LQI for ZB Router (thats the name I have for one of the two router devices)"

rotund brook
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I have some issues pairing this device with my zigbee2mqtt zzh usb stick on HA-addon.
I am following the instructions, but it never starts fading - unless I remove paperclip. Then it starts flashing, but no sync to z2m.
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/E1603_E1702_E1708.html
Anyone know of another procedure?
I must be doing something wrong, because I have now swapped this with a new device, and its behaving the same.

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the only way I get the device to do anything is if I hold for 5s or more, and when I release, it makes a click sound and then starts blinking, as if it was reset. but nothing in z2m. allow join is on of course.

oak lark
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SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus not connecting to HA blue

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trying to setup ZHA and receive failed to connect

rocky sleet
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Hi

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looks like all have similar issues here 🙂

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i have mixed devices tuya, ikea, paulman, all detected but no way to interact between :/

austere patio
rocky sleet
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i was messing around clusters... but no succes....

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yup i enabled that,

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and i get tons of (for me) unusable data

oak lark
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@austere patio can't even install the integration. Do I still add the debug logging?

rocky sleet
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i added devices and they are hanging on ui but no functionality from button to dimmer

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i can manually turn dimmer from web ui (home assistant) but remote zigbee buttons can't be "binded" to dimmer

molten linden
fossil spear
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@molten lindendon't see anything in the pins, got a site?

austere patio
molten linden
oak lark
fossil spear
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ohh yea I did look at these. you were out of stock

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@molten lindendo you have a discord or somewhere you post to let people know when things are back in stock?

molten linden
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have a waiting list.. but generally have stock of most right now. PM me if you aren't seeing it and I can try and help

rocky sleet
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web discord not work good

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v 1.2 , build id: 20180507

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can't copy paste

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i work on OPI 2E+ with onboard flash

oak lark
austere patio
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With zigpy_znp

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Upload the entire chunk of the log somewhere

rocky sleet
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if i can't connect few mixed ZB devices each to other, should i use some other package like zigbee2mqtt or it can be done with cluster groups binding ??

oak lark
austere patio
oak lark
last mauve
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hi folks ...i have a tradfri hub, can I pair and control phillips hue bulbs to it?

austere patio
azure tinsel
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in z2m i have made a lightgroup with 7 lights. when turning these lights on and off seperately there is no problem. But when i turn the light group on and off one light stays on. i checked that this light is in the light group in z2m and functioning correctly. Anyone an idea why this isnt working properly?

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In the logs there are no errors and it even tells me that the light is turned on and off when i turn the light group on and off. When using the title button in home assistant to turn all the lights on and off the light works just fine

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never mind re-added the light to the group and now it works fine. But i really wonder how a light can just stop working in a light group all of a sudden

rocky sleet
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All devices were discovered fast but remote don't working, i only see battery status of tuya's remote and none usable function of each remote, lamp dimmers work over phone HA GUI

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Obviously remote wasn't recognized correct,I can't see their trigger (button press)function

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That's why I thought cluster/bind could do something, but it seems that not working

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I tried bind endpoint on/off off to turn off scene and similar combination but none make any progress

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I can throw all ZigBee stuff and use wifi esp-easy and wled but it isn't so fancy like ZB remote

hazy cradle
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Hello, zha randomly stops to communicate with wifi gateway, and I have to reload it in order to make it works. I enabled logs in config.yam, where now I can find they?

jolly narwhal
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Which WiFi gateway?

hazy cradle
jolly narwhal
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Oh that abomination

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Just order something else right now

hazy cradle
# jolly narwhal Oh that abomination

I alredy checked for something better, but a lot are out of stock
however this time looks more a zha issue (i can see the console, there is no communication)

sour shadow
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Reliability of communication with the gateway is a known problem

hazy cradle
jolly narwhal
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Yes

sour shadow
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Not WiFi is a good starting point

hazy cradle
obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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The logs will be the same ones as for HA I suspect

jolly narwhal
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New AP ? WhiteGuyBlinking

hazy cradle
jolly narwhal
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AP is useless usually the abbreviation for access point

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Which doesn't exist in ZigBee

storm lagoon
# rotund brook I have some issues pairing this device with my zigbee2mqtt zzh usb stick on HA-a...

I encountered the exact same problem yesterday evening, and haven't solved it yet. I have a mix of 8 nodes from Ikea, Philips in my Zigbee network in addition to CC2531 stick (yes, that's just for testing. a new one has been ordered).
I was wondering if it might NOT be an issue specific to the device I'm trying to pair, as I've had problems pairing E1603, Ikea onoff-switch and Ikea bulb. Even though Ikea onoff-switch and Ikea bulb of identical model paired just fine, with the exact same factory reset procedure...
We're travelling for xmas now, so I'll try again after xmas. With a little luck then I can try with a different/better coordinator USB stick

bronze pewter
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has anyone. ordered from ELELabs recently and shipped to Canada - Flat Rate $8 seems reasonable - but curious of the timing - my guess is like 4 weeks at that rate.

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debating between the ELElabs USB vs the Sonoff Zigbee 3 + 2 more temp sensors - Same price shipped for both ($38 USD)

wispy flume
molten linden
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what is your host system. looks like the serial connection isn't happening

wispy flume
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RPi

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Might try a new cable. although my prev coordinator was working just fine with the current one.

molten linden
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odd for sure. HASSOS? on the pi? if you had previous stick working over serial def start suspecting hardware the wire or stick

wispy flume
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ya, it's on a short usb extender cable that I just swapped out the dongle but it's an old cable so meh.

coarse horizon
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So just got done moving to ha and finished setting up my zwave network using zwave2mqtt and was looking at using zigbee2mqtt for the zigbee side of things but from what I have read I'm going to need a different usb adapter as the zigbee one's I have are not supported.

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Is there any vendors in the states that sell compatible usb sicks or a poe based network hub?
Everything I have seen comes from over seas.

lilac wharf
coarse horizon
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Ty

slate leaf
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Hi all, could someone help me to achieve my goal, or at least understand the functionality?

Q: I have very nice and simple Radiator Thermostat (Hama 00176592) connected to HA using RaspBee II + ZHA. Am wondering, am I able to get from ZHA (or somwhere else) full json of current states of all params? I tried to get values from clusters/attributes, but there is lotta attributes which are not related to this device.

obsidian sandalBOT
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The XY problem is asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem.

This leads to enormous amounts of wasted time and energy, both on the part of people asking for help, and on the part of those providing help.

The problem occurs when people get stuck on what they believe is the solution and are unable to step back and explain the issue in full.

Command '~xy' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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If you explain your goal I'm sure people can help you achieve that

slate leaf
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Am trying to get all parameters the Valve supports. Because while using clusters/attributes I can't tell if None means that the value is not set, or that value does not exist. The reason why I start digging here is, that I wanted to find out what is the cool down temperature. But all cooldown found in attributes says None

raven jewel
slate leaf
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Hi Rosemary. Am not sure if we can compare it, I have tested several valves in HA using Deconz, ZHA and also Zigbee2Mqtt and I had also this SEA802 from Saswell which is physically same as Hama 00176592 and I couldn't even connect it.

lofty junco
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Hey. I just now have a bug again that I currently can reproduce in HA.
I'm using ZHA and my TRV is showing that it's set to 5°C. When I set it to 20°C in the HA UI it stays at 20°C but as soon as I reload the page or switch menus, it is reverting to 5°C.
I doubt that it's the valve that is reverting the setting, since the logbook doesn't show the valve changing even for a sec.
I can manually adjust the wanted temp on the TRV by hand (phisically) and that works. After that phyical change I can adjust it again in HA for some time but after 1 day or so I end up in the same problem.
Any ideas? The normal server logs don't show any error or message regarding that, but I don't know if I can enable some verbose logging or so to see much more details.

tardy tendon
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Does anyone have the simple IKEA Tadfri shortcut button working with ZHA? Mine shows up as a sensor (power) with the correct-seeming quirk. I've found a forum post discussing this but it went off-topic before hitting a solution that worked for me (For example: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ikea-shortcut-button/214998). I don't see the button presses when listening for zha_event in the developer tools, even with the listener set to * I cannot find any events that seem to be me pressing the physical button.

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I'm a newbie still so I might be overlooking something obvious to you seasoned vets.

raven jewel
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Did you try listening to deconz_event?

sour shadow
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ZHA

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Wrong event 😉

tardy tendon
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As described in that forum post? No, as it seemed nonsensical to me. The original post (and I) are trying to integrate using zha. As far as I know, that means I don't have deconz_event installed.

sour shadow
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zha_event would be the relevant one

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That said, it should list a device trigger

tardy tendon
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I'll delete the device and listen to zha_event while re-adding it

sour shadow
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Should be no need to delete it

raven jewel
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Just listen to the events and then press the button

tardy tendon
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No event is listed for the button press.

lofty junco
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Tinkerer, any tipp for my problem above? I even restarted HA but the problem is still there :/

raven jewel
slate leaf
# lofty junco Tinkerer, any tipp for my problem above? I even restarted HA but the problem is ...

You sure the issue is not in your device? Am using TRV too, latest HA Core + latest ZHA and I don't have any problem with self resetting . Actually I might have encoutered something simillar at the beginning while I was testing other TRV's but those were apparently already used, so I did factory reset to every device to get rid of setup I didn't do, since I didn't want the TRV live it's own live, but to be fully controllable by HA, no problem since

tardy tendon
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I also see no zha_event content in the listener during repairing the device after deletion...

lofty junco
obsidian sandalBOT
tardy tendon
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Yes. Step 4 is the part where I see no data.

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Button presses do not generate an event there.

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Neither is an event generated during pairing (not sure if it should generate anything but I thought I'd try that).

slate leaf
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And you can confirm, the device is connected in ZHA, right? You see at least that battery status

tardy tendon
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Yes and I can see it in the visual map.

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That's as much as I know about confirming whether it's connected or not.

slate leaf
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ok, in ZHA Device Info, click on reconfigure device and try again

lofty junco
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i also tried the pastebin stuff but when i change temperatures in HA it doesnt show me any info. Is this only meant for actions that are coming FROM the valves?

slate leaf
slate leaf
lofty junco
tardy tendon
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But I won't question that for now I guess

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Thanks for your help.

slate leaf
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Well speaking about listening events using TRVs, I don't get any value but still all works

slate leaf
lofty junco
slate leaf
# lofty junco so... maybe it's the wrong event I'm listening to? :/

I just start listening events and did everything what was possible with my TRV and did not see any response. So maybe we both need some clarification on how this should work. But again, while controlling this device from HA, everything works well. You can also go directly to ZHA > Your Device and retrieve manually the state of attributes from Manage Clusters by choosing the cluster and attribute and click on GET. But this will bring you to the same place where I am now. I would love to see all possible options in one request

bronze pewter
untold zealot
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Interesting issues, i'm using some zigbee bulbs (generic ones) and they work fine if they're turned on at the switch then the rpi4 is turned on and HA started, however, if the rpi4 is turned on (with Ha running) then the bulbs are turned on at the switch, it doesn't pick them up and I can't control them?

obsidian sandalBOT
lofty junco
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And there is no recorded event that is indicating that the temp was lowered again.

slate leaf
# lofty junco And there is no recorded event that is indicating that the temp was lowered agai...
  1. Ensure you have the TRV excluded from any automation
  2. Check clusters/attribute or directly on TRV the target temperature
  3. Change the temperature in HA
  4. Do the point 2 again

Is the changed value in TRV?

I strongly doubt the refresh of the web page would send something to your TRV, it rather looks like unresolved change. HA will show you changed state sometimes, but did it already happend?

Like, if you turn on the automation toggle, which appears as ON, but in the background something went wrong so it is actually off. Or some actions need some time to be resolved (timeout?). For example yesterday my trv needed for about 10s to proceed the change. The automation appeared as done, but than I've refreshed the automation debug window and I've seen the workflow got really completed after some time

austere patio
wispy flume
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previous to it working, I was manually selecting ZNP

austere patio
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Hmm, the new connection logic might be less than 100% reliable

wispy flume
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I've managed to discover my powered devices. Battery devices are getting stuck on starting interview but I've gotten passed that before.

austere patio
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Though I'm not sure why that would depend on the USB connection, that seems like it should either work or not work

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Are they IKEA?

wispy flume
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No. All out of aliexpress. Motion and temp sensors.

austere patio
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Plugged straight into a USB 3 port may be the problem. Try reconnecting it with the extension, you can do it without restarting HA

wispy flume
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But I'm not too worried about this part. I had the same problem before with the old coordinator and they worked eventually.

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I've read about the interference issue so will move it out with a 3m usb cable shortly.

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Do I have the wrong understanding that powered zigbee devices can be used to add new devices? So if I have one closer to a battery device, i might have better luck adding it through it?

austere patio
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Anything with a battery will be off 99% of the time

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Most things plugged into an outlet or a light bulb socket will extend your mesh

wispy flume
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Perfect. I've read about keeping battery things alive to get through the interview so will try that as well.

sand egret
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Getting a delay of about 500ms on automation device button trigger -> device lightbulb toggle (compared to toggling the device in app directly which is nearly instant). Any way to speed this up? (zha but maybe this is a general ha question).

tropic depot
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depends

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what button

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and is it consistent

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or only when the button hasn't been used for a while

sand egret
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it's a zigbee lightswitch button thingy (TS0024)

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it's consistently slow - probabbly closer to a second

tropic depot
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can you enable debug logging for homeassistant.core

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so we can see when the trigger registers and when the automation fires?

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that should give us everything... the event / trigger and the automation

sand egret
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ok can do

tropic depot
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ty

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oh what are the lights too?

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and what is in the automation?

sand egret
# 
logger:
  default: warning
  logs:
    homeassistant.core: debug

something like this right?

tropic depot
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are you providing a transition? some bulbs behave very flaky

sand egret
#

just doing a toggle

#

I'll check that (without the button)

#

they are Hive lightbulbs of some kind

tropic depot
#

that config looks good

#

you can also turn it on w/ a service call I believe

#

so you don't have to restart

sand egret
#

too late but thanks 🙂

#

ok took a bit of poking after the restart

#

automation wasnt firing at all - added a different one to toggle a light on a CC2531 router and that working.......and the other automation triggering again

#

same delay though

#

devices were reporting in according to zha though

#

anyway! 🙂

#

just on the server logs page?

tropic depot
#

no you need to get the data from the log itself

sand egret
#

ok I see it....

#

Unless I'm missing something, the timestamps for the logs are only seconds precision?

#

it all happens at 2021-12-22 18:15:56 😄

tropic depot
#

unfortunately... i forgot about that

sand egret
#

had a thought though

#

the button has a double-click event

tropic depot
#

well that at least means it's less than 1 second

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😄

sand egret
#

maybe thats the source of the delay 🤔 (waiting for a second press)

tropic depot
#

depends on how the device works

sand egret
#

I can double click pretty fast will try that 😄

#

yeah didn't help.....it's slow to double click too

#

any other ideas? 🙂

lofty junco
slate leaf
lofty junco
slate leaf
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That's the right one

sand egret
#

Are the logs flushed per line maybe? Could try:

tail -f /config/home-assistant.log | xargs -IL echo "[[`cat /proc/uptime`]]   L"
lofty junco
sand egret
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my linux no good this give same uptime 😄

lofty junco
#

@slate leaf for some other TRV on my hose, which doesn'T get "stuck" the devtools -> service works for changing its temp. But not for this other problematic one...

sand egret
#

if the logs are flushed each line looks like HA is being fast, just the device slow to send the event:

112438.72 440939.81  >>  2021-12-22 18:54:15 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Bus:Handling <Event zha_event[L]: ...
112438.73 440939.83  >>  2021-12-22 18:54:15 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Bus:Handling <Event automation_triggered[L]: name=Lounge Light Toggle, entity_id=automation.new_automation, source=event 'zha_event'>
112438.74 440939.87  >>  2021-12-22 18:54:15 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Bus:Handling <Event state_changed[L]: entity_id=automation.new_automation, ...
112438.74 440939.87  >>  2021-12-22 18:54:15 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Bus:Handling <Event call_service[L]: domain=light, service=toggle, service_data=entity_id=light.aurora_fwclbulb01uk_3270ae02_level_on_off>...
...
slate leaf
lofty junco
slate leaf
lofty junco
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I was also thinking that maybe that valve has some preset heating schedule, but i didn'T see any. also that valve is still heating even though it's +4°C over the setted temp... weird.

slate leaf
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Just for my interest can you tell me the Mark and number of that device?

lofty junco
lofty junco
slate leaf
#

Oh yeah, very common one, but unfrotunately I did not test this specific one. Anyway, since you can make lotta changes directly on that device, it's quite possible, that it will ruin later interaction with that device from HA. If you have also that zigbee gate, try also use the TUYA app to reset this device or look on it's setup and compare it with others

lofty junco
# slate leaf Oh yeah, very common one, but unfrotunately I did not test this specific one. An...

hm.... now that you mention it.... i never used the tuya app.... it could be, that there is an pending firmware update that i could install on those devices i guess? But i already connected all 6 TRVs into my HA, what is the recommended process now? Should I maybe de-attach all of them from HA, connect all to the tuye app, look for updates, install them, reset them and then connect them back to HA?

#

And by the way: Do you have any recommendation for mid-budget TRVs that maybe are behaving better?

slate leaf
lofty junco
slate leaf
# lofty junco And by the way: Do you have any recommendation for mid-budget TRVs that maybe ar...

My experience said the best one is 'Hama 00176592'. It is nice, very easy, fast response and you can't do much setup on TRV itself (big plus from my perspective). There is lot of similar device to this one and some even bit cheaper, so you can try them, but from my experience I've tried also Saswell which looks same, but I was not able even connect it to ZHA/DeConz/ZigbeeToMQTT (Also, maybe faulty device).

slate leaf
valid rivet
#

I just got a sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb dongle and I'm passing it through to WSL2 Ubuntu how do I add it to ZHA? Like what is the device serial path?

zack@DESKTOP-DJT42SK:/mnt/c/Users/Zack$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 10c4:ea60 Silicon Labs CP210x UART Bridge  <--- Here it is
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
austere patio
valid rivet
#

Nothing shows

austere patio
#

As in there is no serial port shown in the dropdown?

valid rivet
#

Nope

austere patio
#

What does ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/* show?

valid rivet
#

No such file or directory

austere patio
#

What about /dev/tty*?

#

And python -c "from serial.tools.list_ports import *; [print(repr(p.device)) for p in comports()]"

valid rivet
lofty junco
#

Btw, do you know if there are already default ZHA quirks for that hama one that work directly?

#

because for my TRVs a user on github had me import a custom quirk config to my HA to make them work :/

slate leaf
lofty junco
slate leaf
# lofty junco but just making sure: u are using it directly with HA over ZHA, right? nothing w...

Yes, make just sure, that it will work with your zigbee module, but I assume this will not be a problem I have it on RaspBee II with latest firmware. Like that I just put the TRV to pairing mode and let ZHA to find it. Once done I could do my automation

It's so easy that I have decided to buy three of them to my father on Xmas. And he is really good firewall for complicated and not clear things.

valid rivet
austere patio
#

They may be the /dev/ttyS* entries

#

But ZHA expects pyserial to enumerate all of the serial ports

#

You might be able to do mkdir /dev/serial/by-id/ and sudo ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/serial/by-id/windows0, etc. to "trick" PySerial if it's a problem with the package, though I doubt it

austere patio
valid rivet
#

I'll try the other method and then admit defeat

austere patio
#

I don't think HA is tested on WSL but it should run

jolly narwhal
#

Wsl doesn't support usb passthrough since it is based on hyperv

austere patio
#

I thought WSL2 did

jolly narwhal
#

Afaik, no

#

I tried with my yubikey

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No go

#

And since hyperv doesn't, it makes sense that a layer on top doesn't

austere patio
#

In that case, you can use some COM-to-TCP application and use the socket://ip.addr:port protocol as the "manual" entry in ZHA. A little hacky but it should sidestep the problem.

jolly narwhal
#

Running ha in wsl is already so hacky I would just say

#

Don't do it

#

Outside of testing

austere patio
#

HA is more or less pure Python, it may not be tested but it should mostly work

echo yarrow
#

any reason my aqara motion sensor would stop repsponding? z2m sees it, but it doesn't change state.

jolly narwhal
#

Should work, it is still a horrible way to do it

sour shadow
echo yarrow
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100% on battery, and the coordinator is a tubez poe.

sour shadow
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Router != coordinator

austere patio
#

Aqara battery stats are useless, they always read 100%

valid rivet
echo yarrow
#

oh lovely.

sour shadow
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Nah, I've got some that read less

jolly narwhal
sour shadow
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Now, Konke... that's another story

jolly narwhal
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Apparently 2.0 now does support it

#

It is still a horrible way to run ha

valid rivet
#

I don't see the issue, personally

austere patio
#

Let me see if it works for me with WSL2

valid rivet
#

There's the answer

austere patio
#

COM to TCP is probably the only way then

rocky sleet
#

i'm still without working way to get remote controls to work

#

Model: CC2531, Z-Stack Home 1.2 (build 20180507)

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can this usb part drive zigbee 3 devices

sour shadow
#

Yes, but it's a crap stick

austere patio
rocky sleet
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but i gave one tuzya and one ikea r.c.

sour shadow
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not all devices support binding

rocky sleet
#

ikea have registered actions for buttons but when i make automation "on button-on" turn light it not fire that event

craggy vault
#

Does someone here uses the h1 double rocker switch from aqara?

austere patio
rocky sleet
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how to do this reconfiguration ? i removed an added hour ago, but nothing repaired

austere patio
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In the device page, there is a "reconfigure device" button

rocky sleet
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i tried developer-tools/event to check if it make any event, but it does not

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The device reconfiguration failed. Additional information may be available in the logs.

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some check was green but some failed

austere patio
#

Make sure the device is awake

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Click buttons, etc.

rocky sleet
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off-on was green , does it mean that at least core fn work ?

#

yup i did that.... clicked while it reconfigured

#

i know i have crappy stick, but this only what i have until i obtain better, it have 1.2 v but i have seen lot comments about versions and problems with ZigBee 3.0 devices...

#

i don't know if there is sense to mess around update fw

austere patio
#

It can handle many more than 3 devices and the problem is likely not with the stick

#

But updating the firmware is a good idea, you're running an ancient build of Z-Stack from Sonoff

rocky sleet
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some zb3.0 security issues. .. i read it on open hub support for same stick

austere patio
#

?

#

Other than the stick erroneously permitting joins on startup (fixed in ZHA), it's about as secure as any Zigbee coordinator

rocky sleet
#

can it be update without solder on it ?

sour shadow
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Yes

#

I flashed my CC2531 many times

austere patio
rocky sleet
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i mean not problem to solder, but just asking, i seen lot "hardware" way to update fw, i don't know if it have some own bootloader to update it from own usb

sour shadow
#

That guide covers updating it in many ways - no soldering

austere patio
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Doesn't mention the serial bootloader method

rocky sleet
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i checked... no way to update without soldering pins then making some of shown programming devices... if have to do i preffer esp8266 as programming hardware,

austere patio
#

See the link I posted above. The CC2531 has a serial bootloader, but if you have a microcontroller then do it with the ESP8266.

rocky sleet
#

question is if it solve my problem

#

i mean update from 1.2 to 1.2.2

#

because.... dimmers and bulbs working on it

#

just zigbee "input devices" not working

#

i succesfully connected my tuya gateway over tuya devel-cloud but is somehow overkill for HA

#

and seams that it is trial so after some time tuya would kick me ot it will probably stop work when trial expire

#

as far i understood modus operant... .but this way i could use remote via tuya cloud

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not preferred way but may work until i obtain better usb coordinator

austere patio
#

The coordinator won't fix problems arising from device configuration issues

last ruin
#

Some HA updates causes a few of my ZigBee devices to become unavailable. After updating to 2021.12.3 U have 22 unavailable devices. Why does this happen and can I fix it remotely? DeCONZ and Conbee II.

austere patio
#

How long has it been since you updated?

rocky sleet
#

where i can see some real time receiving ZB messages (i know log, but is so messy now when all debug options are enabled)

last ruin
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2 days maybe

rocky sleet
#

i have broadling pro plus and i intended to use it for remote controlers, but it isn't plug and play neither, and i'm new in it

#

is there some comparibility list which remote and which coordinator to buy to work all together

sour shadow
#

No, because it's more about the integration and the device - the coordinator is largely irrelevant

rocky sleet
#

this ikea things is easy to buy in shop no need to online order, as all from china to Croatia travel month

#

but to "integrate" successfully i should firstly have some push button test for in example ikea remote, and i can't get it to work... so i don't know from where to dig...

#

versions of everithing ? config files ? logs ? or maybe to make an virtual machine on pc and test it on it if work

sour shadow
#

Have you managed to pair the remote to ZHA?

#

I can't work out from what you've posted what your actual problem is

rocky sleet
#

yes i pair 5 devices

#

2 dimmers work normally

sour shadow
#

And the remote? You have it paired?

rocky sleet
#

those are paulman dimmers

#

yes i have tuya and ikea remote, both paired

#

but tuya see only batery status

sour shadow
#

That's normal

rocky sleet
#

ikea see all

#

but not trigering any action

sour shadow
#

Remotes normally work with events with ZHA - you don't get entities, you just get device triggers and events

rocky sleet
#

ok, next i created automation and with power on button on ikea tried to call power light on scene, but it dont work

#

i tried all buttons triggers

#

not work

sour shadow
#

Well, you have to write an automation that uses the correct entities and states, or events and event data

rocky sleet
#

i was looking in development>event>listen * but nothing fires out

#

how can i check if any event trigger work from R.C

#

i have read that with "manage clusters" is possible to get action if normal not working...

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but i'm still exploring and learning as just few days have this thing on desk

#

I will check messages in hour , gtg, bye

bronze pewter
lilac wharf
#

Not sure, but keep in mind it's likely that a shipping label was just generated instead of actually being shipped out

valid rivet
austere patio
valid rivet
#

Permission issue?

austere patio
#

Yep

valid rivet
#

Uhm, new to Linux what's the quickest way to sort this?

valid rivet
austere patio
valid rivet
#

It's using a virtual environment

#

The linux user has group tty

austere patio
#

It depends on what distribution you're using and what its settings are for the various groups but I believe dialout is what Ubuntu uses

green lily
#

Anyone got an older Centralite 3305-S motion/temperature sensor? It's flashing orange on motion which it doesn't normally do. It's stopped reporting motion (but still reports temp) so I am assuming that it's low battery or something,

valid rivet
#

I might write a guide on how to do this for others, any ideas of where to post it?

austere patio
modern mirage
#

Does anyone know if there is a resource where you can look up a device to see what entities it has and what they do?

sinful swift
modern mirage
wintry oriole
#

I say that because I'm pretty sure their remote (and by extension everything else) is just chinese zigbee.

bronze pewter
copper solar
#

hey guys - my quest continues to ziggyfi my house - from wifi devices !

#

sonoffs mainly...

violet dagger
#

hope its not sonoff sensors

copper solar
#

Is there a good way for me to see stats for all the devices on one screen!

#

@violet dagger mainly sonoff basics

violet dagger
jolly narwhal
#

Yaml baby

copper solar
#

@violet dagger however.... I was about to pull the trigger on a load of their temp sensors - why not . are they crap?

violet dagger
#

yes they are

jolly narwhal
#

Xiaomi 3622dance

violet dagger
#

Aqara 🍡

jolly narwhal
copper solar
#

why ?

#

I do admit i have aqara snsor already in bathroom and it's flawless

#

but pricey

#

compared to sonoff

violet dagger
#

pricey 🤣

#

and now you know why

copper solar
#

i can get 3x sonoff temp sensors for £20

#

i think

#

zigbee

violet dagger
#

and then you'll spend more replacing them with aqara sensors

copper solar
#

haha

#

maybe...

#

ok, i'll hold fire then on the bulk purcase

violet dagger
#

or spend the difference replacing the 2450 cells every 6 months

copper solar
#

i've bought a single sonoff zigbee temp sensor off amazon to test it

#

but ok.. thanks for warning

#

back to getting this zigbee info in HA

#

I don't see it

#

i mean on a device i see this...

#

Device info
BASICZBR3
by SONOFF
Connected via dresden elektronik RaspBee II
Zigbee info
IEEE: 00:12:4b:00:23:43:dd:aa
Nwk: 0x6caf
Device Type: Router
LQI: 255
RSSI: -71
Last Seen: 2021-12-23T13:12:51
Power Source: Mains

#

but can't see how to add all that to lovelace view

violet dagger
#

you cannot

copper solar
#

as it's device info - not entity

#

ahh, blast and drat !

#

etc

violet dagger
#

why would you want all that in a view?

copper solar
#

true

#

actually the power ones ok !

violet dagger
#

you have all pertinent info in attributes

copper solar
#

Device info
TRADFRI SHORTCUT Button
by IKEA of Sweden
Connected via dresden elektronik RaspBee II
Firmware: 0x23015631
Zigbee info
IEEE: 68:0a:e2:ff:fe:13:6f:6e
Nwk: 0x7da6
Device Type: EndDevice
LQI: Unknown
RSSI: Unknown
Last Seen: 2021-12-23T12:56:59
Power Source: Battery or Unknown
Quirk: zhaquirks.ikea.shortcutbtn.IkeaTradfriShortcutBtn

#

that one gives me an entity - Power = 87%

violet dagger
copper solar
#

oh yeah

#

can i have attributes in a list view

violet dagger
#

hmmm... looks like my aqara door sensor battery will finally need to be replaced

copper solar
#

so why are these sonoff sensors bad compared to aqara ?

willow bronze
#

Is it true that Sonoff Zigbee dongle can actually work at 20 dbi amplification

#

compared to standard 5 with z-stack

#

if so, is there custom firmware that can take advantage of this?

mighty river
#

I just rebuilt my HA Zigbee installation with the Sonoff 3.0 (previously deleted the ZHA).
Is a lot better than the Conbee II before.
However, in the visualization and device list I now see two coordinators.
In the visualization is a "unk_model from unk_manufacturer" connected to the end devices.
The second "ZNP = Texas Instruments Z-Stack ZNP protocol: CC253x, CC26x2, CC13x2
from ZHA" is not connected to any device.

What would you do?

willow bronze
mighty river
#

how?

#

which one ist the sonoff?
can I delete the otherone?

willow bronze
#

just remove the integration and the config files

#

zigbee.db and zha.storage in .storage

#

then add the integration back

#

@mighty river

austere patio
tropic depot
#

I thought we made it so you could… 🤔

#

I’ll check later

mighty river
#

is "Texas Instruments Z-Stack ZNP protocol: CC253x, CC26x2, CC13x2" the old conbee-II?

tropic depot
#

No

copper solar
#

i guess in here the answer is yes, but is the consensus that Zigbee is a better way than wifi for HA?

sour shadow
#

Well, yes

#

For a start it's 100% local, no cloud crap

copper solar
#

i think so for reasons...

#

tinks - yes, that and seems "lighter"... leaving wifi for other things

sour shadow
#

WiFi is fine for Tasmota and ESPHome, or anything else that's actually 100% local

copper solar
#

also no IP address management which I appreciate....

#

i will still have a few esphome devices on wifi

#

but they will be the exceptions

#

pairing also easier i think with zigbee

#

"setting up" basically.

#

I would like more of a centralised management view though, find the visualisation thing in HA ZHA quirky and pretty useless...

#

all those bubbles and lines moving around like some crazy video game!

#

rather just have a table view... is that possible ?

sour shadow
#

No idea, I don't use it, but then I also don't care what the "map" looks like if things work

copper solar
#

that's true i guess, if it works, it works.

primal blade
#

I am using ZHA integration currently and I want to try z2m. Is there a way to temporarily disable the ZHA integration so I can try z2m? I am assuming they can't both run at the same time because they need to access the port of the zigbee stick.

tropic depot
tropic depot
tropic depot
hoary gulch
#

Dear all, is anyone else being unable to pair any new devices to the C2652P coordinator? I've tried both the recommended 202103 firmware for Ebyte board and the latest 20211217 version. Both work perfectly fine for the existing network but I can't connect any device

#

I've asked on the zigbee2mqtt discord with no responses so far. Has anyone had and resolved this issue?

rocky sleet
#

i just installing fresh x86 virtual image of HA to test if ikea remote will work on it with same crappy usb stick

rocky sleet
#

totally same.... ikea tradfre rounded remote not working on another platform

#

dimmers found on power on, remote found on pairing, but when i make an automation i can't power light with "Turn on" button pressed trigger or any other

#

any experience with that ??

#

what is "Quirk" ? can anyone point me to some fixing direction

tropic depot
#

The ikea ones are all a mess because they keep changing things in firmware

#

I’ll try to take a pass at the devices I have soon

hoary gulch
#

The thing is that in my case I have 5 devices on my desk, neither of which is able to pair with the network while the core of my network with 40 devices works just fine.

#

I've tried going back and forth between firmwares and it's not it.

#

Changing USB ports, restarting the VM in which HA is running or the HA OS made an effect either

rocky sleet
#

i tried that blueprint upload

#

i have feeling that HA not understand / not see any remote trigger, but what to workaround ? i would buy another remote but i don't know which is native supported

rocky sleet
#

does using zigbee2mqtt solve problem with ikea ? and other things ? tuya etc ?

#

can zigbee2mqtt coegzist on same SBC (orange pi) ? or i have to put another one board ?

jolly narwhal
#

Problem with Ikea?

#

I use zigbee2mqtt with an abundance of ikea

#

70 or so of them

shell quiver
#

I have a zigbee noob question: When I'm trying to pair a new device to my zigbee network, does my network's range extension with existing devices not help it?

jolly narwhal
#

Mostly all mains powered devices act as routers in the mesh

#

Battery powered ones do not, with a few exceptions

shell quiver
#

I see—I have a couple smart plugs that I've confirmed act as routers, and I have one near a new device that I'm trying to add to my network, but it's not showing up when I get to the "Searching for ZHA Zigbee devices..." part. So my guess was that I'll need to bring my Conbee stick right next to this new device

jolly narwhal
#

No

#

Never move the coordinator

#

And always pair a device in its planned installation location

#

That said, you are the 15th or so user who has complained about issues lately and mentioned Conbee

shell quiver
#

Ah okay, I think I understand why. Any ideas on what I could try? My home is enormous so range issues was my first guess

jolly narwhal
#

More routers

#

I have a 252m2 house, with three floors

#

I have around 70 routers

#

Never any issues or devices dropping off

shell quiver
#

Nice. My house is about 1020 square meters (assuming I converted right, ~11k square feet), so adding devices sounds like a good idea

#

My home assistant rpi4 is in a server closet in the corner of the lower floor of the house, and that's where the conbee stick is, so it's probably struggling

#

Thanks for your help!

jolly narwhal
#

The coordinator in the middle of the house is a great idea

#

Also selecting the least congested frequencies are a good idea

tropic depot
#

You def need routers

lilac wharf
tropic depot
#

Srsly has to be like 10 beds 😂

lilac wharf
#

I thought my 1200 sq ft single story house with a full basement (so about 2000 sq ft total) was big

#

But damn

mighty bloom
#

I've just tried to add 6 identical PIR sensors. 2 of them have been recognized as TUYA TS0202. 4 of them are Unrecognized yet still show as TS0202. Have tried deleting and repairing them. Any tips. The 1st one connected fine. The next 4 Unsupported. The 6th one was recognized.

wintry oriole
#

Are there good units for use with the pi Zero? Possibly in kit form or otherwise needing very little configuration?

twilit narwhal
# jolly narwhal I have around 70 routers

Holy shit, same house size and configuration and I have a pretty decent mesh with 7 routers. But I don't do bulbs so that's why the numbers won't go up very fast. But yeah for 1k m2 you'd need at least two dozens very well-placed routers in order to cover the whole house. I try to always have a router less than 15ft from every end device as a rule of thumb.

wintry oriole
#

By units I mean zigbee coordinator hat

mighty bloom
#

They are pretty cheap anyway.

Look for a CC2652. They are a lot better than the slightly cheaper ones

wintry oriole
#

I'm not even sure if I need a full HA system. Just trying to make lights turn on with door sensors.

mighty bloom
#

I bought a CC2652 for only $44 AU.

Gives much longer range than the cheaper ones. So less likely to need a repeater.

If you add more and more things, it can handle over 200 devices comfortably

#

It's not much more than the cheapest ones. And HA seems to be like Pringles....

#

Can be frustrating though.

#

Trying to add 6 identical PIR sensors and 2 connect perfectly yet 4 connect yet are unrecognized

jolly narwhal
copper solar
#

i am thinking of getting some more ikea gu10s

ivory hound
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moved to a new house, brick walls, zigbee2mqtt up with all sensors in boxes, all bulbs (routers) not powered (in boxes), my cc2652r connected to my tuya din rail energy meter that i paired previously trough 4 walls with at least 20 meters distance 😄

mighty bloom
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I bought GU10's off Ali Express. $44 AU for 5. They work perfectly

mighty bloom
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Shame some of the devices don't work so well

ivory hound
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not even connected but it gives good readings :))

copper solar
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i am switching out my conbee II for the sonoff stick today

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is the sonoff stick a cc2652r

ivory hound
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@copper solarwelcome to the light

copper solar
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i listened yesterday...

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i paid too much on amazon for getting it today!

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one day delivery but hey ho

mighty bloom
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no idea i have zig-a-zig-ah (zzh)

wintry oriole
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Like the Spice Girls?

copper solar
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Zigbee Spice

copper solar
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strangely my conbee II has been ok, but i hear from you guys that the sonoff stick is better

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and as it's at the centre of things i guess i should do it !

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ZHA on HA

carmine star
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hello everyone, newcomer here (feel free to point out if I'm in the wrong channel)

I installed HA with LinuxServer.io's docker-compose.yml stack on a Debian 11 Bullseye VM under a Træfik 2.5 reverse proxy with Docker's labels.
I recently bought an Ikea Tradfri gateway (zigbee) and some compatible bulbs and a button. I then just had a chat with an Ikea "expert" who shut the "chat door" right in front of my face when I asked how to set a static IP to the gateway because he didn't know and the in-store reps didn't either (but I digress)...
So what would be a good alternative gateway system that actually works 100% of the time, and doesn't require me to set up complicated DHCP ranges and static leases?

Thank you in advance!!

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Well, for the IKEA integration, you should probably go to #integrations-archived, or you can get a Zigbee stick and connect it to your machine (and pass it through to the docker container), and pair the devices directly using ZHA, Z2M, or Deconz. (I will say, you can definitely set a fixed IP address on your router, and you shouldn't need to do any more than that.)

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Ikea integration was a mention, but since the "level of decency and competence" of the "experts" on phone/chat support from Ikea is like that, I posted here asking for alternatives because (like said before, since that's their level) I would like to switch off of that thing

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Lights and buttons are just "dumb devices" in the end, the gateway has to be "smart" enough to integrate well with other systems and such, and if they can't stand even a simple question like "how to set a static IP address", I would like another USB stick or RPi or whatever to handle my devices and not their gateway 🤷‍♂️

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Any suggestions about what stick / RPi hat to use? 😬

raven jewel
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I'm using a Sonoff dongle (https://sonoff.tech/product/diy-smart-switch/sonoff-dongle-plus/) and Zigbee2MQTT. All my IKEA plugs work great so far, though I've yet to move the lightbulbs and blinds over. It's worth getting a USB extension cable to place the dongle appropriately, and remove the likelihood of interference.

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Don't zigbee devices use each other like a network to spread the signal to the indended device like a multi-cell DECT system for cordless phones?

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I would put the dongle just outside the rack cabinet with an extension that goes to the server, and have zigbee light bulbs in the main room of the servers, some other bulbs in the corridor, and some other in my smart working studio and bedroom

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IIRC it should work "just fine" using each other device as bridge and not interfere with walls in between, since a path of direct "seeing each other" device exist...
(tho, I'm new to the system and I'm basing myself off of rumors and past experiences from friends, not mine directly, hence I might be totally wrong)

raven jewel
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Powered Zigbee devices should, but positioning the dongle right is worth it!

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If it were in a rack, it would almost certainly suffer. But your plan sounds good to me.

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Ooh, this is new to me, it logically makes actual sense, but only devices like light bulbs and sockets spread signal like a network, not a CR232 battery powered smart button...

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PS: it's a LackRack, so it shouldn't interfere even if left inside directly attached to the back of the server 😅
I went to Ikea for a reason, Lacks are way less expensive than a "real" cabinet 😂 (and their dimensions are accurate too, LOL)

raven jewel
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