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jolly narwhal Jun 2, 2021, 7:53 AM

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reverting to stable fixed that

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so still haven't migrated to 1.19, might later this week

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 8:04 AM

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I had planned on trying it this weekend, guess I'll hold off and see what's going on 😄

ivory hound Jun 2, 2021, 8:55 AM

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any new info about low level stack bug in the SiLabs EFR32 used by IKEA devices that causes them to crash?

jolly narwhal Jun 2, 2021, 9:46 AM

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what is this IKEA crash ?

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😄

fleet lodge Jun 2, 2021, 9:56 AM

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"SI Lockup Bug"

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I have not heard of Ikea publishing firmware that fixes the issue in EmberZNet firmware. @austere patio has kept me educated here and would likely know of the update if there were one. But to my knowledge, this has not been fixed.

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I did a bit of research on this because I was curious. I think the TI article you're referencing is this one (https://www.ti.com/lit/an/swra427d/swra427d.pdf?ts=1622564745835) where they are pushing 400 nodes with CC2530's in 2014. The technology has come a long way since. I think the SI article you're referencing is this one (https://www.silabs.com/documents/login/application-notes/an1138-zigbee-mesh-network-performance.pdf) and I'm having a hard time finding a date on this one.

Both articles post very positive results.

I feel good about pushing 1,000 devices on a network, but I think it would be difficult to even provision 1,000 devices in such a density. I think most use-cases would call for separate networks on separate coordinators. It's an interesting thought exercise for sure.

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 10:08 AM

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I doubt in a hobby setup anybody is going to get close enough to 1K devices for it to matter

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I mean, if you had 20 devices per room, you'd need a very big house to hit that 😂

fleet lodge Jun 2, 2021, 10:12 AM

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100% agreed. But for those with commercial aspirations, I think choosing Zigbee as a communications protocol is sound architectural decision for handling 100's of low-powered sensors

cunning trellis Jun 2, 2021, 11:34 AM

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I might try doing an upgrade of my CC2531 with a spare Pi laying around tonight. Any chance if you know if this is still true? Zigbee 3.0 firmwares are not recommended for the CC2530 and CC2531 (since those are not powerful enough) (coming from https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/tree/master/coordinator#im-using-a-cc2530-or-cc2531-which-firmware-should-i-use)

ivory hound Jun 2, 2021, 11:35 AM

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is still true

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hardware has not changed 🙂

cunning trellis Jun 2, 2021, 11:35 AM

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I was hoping for firmware tweaks 🙂 I'll be going with the latest 1.2 then

ivory hound Jun 2, 2021, 11:35 AM

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and software usually ask for more not less

cunning trellis Jun 2, 2021, 11:37 AM

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the CC2531 should be able to run my 9 device network 😉

ivory hound Jun 2, 2021, 11:37 AM

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yah that should not be a problem

ruby field Jun 2, 2021, 11:43 AM

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anyone know if changing zigbee usb stick requires re-pairing of all devices?

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Using Zigbee2MQTT

cunning trellis Jun 2, 2021, 11:44 AM

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It depends: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/FAQ.html#what-does-and-does-not-require-repairing-of-all-devices

thick plover Jun 2, 2021, 11:45 AM

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is there a way to remove devices from your MQTT broker?

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i.e. I have a double up in devices...

ruby field Jun 2, 2021, 11:47 AM

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cunning trellis It depends: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/FAQ.html#what-does-and-does-n...

thanks.

forest cobalt Jun 2, 2021, 11:48 AM

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thick plover is there a way to remove devices from your MQTT broker?

Send a null (empty) message to the MQTT topic.

ruby field Jun 2, 2021, 11:48 AM

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where do I find the version?

thick plover Jun 2, 2021, 11:48 AM

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you are gonna have to spoon feed that to me mate lol

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fwiw, i only use MQTT to get z2m to talk to HA

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I have never really touched anything bar the config file

forest cobalt Jun 2, 2021, 11:49 AM

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lol... use something like MQTT Explorer, find the duped topic (which shouldn't be there) and then publish an empty message to it.

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 11:49 AM

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MQTT Explorer even lets you delete retained messages in the UI, there's a button for it

thick plover Jun 2, 2021, 11:49 AM

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ah cool, will open that up

ruby field Jun 2, 2021, 11:51 AM

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looks like I'm repairing everything AGAIN 😦

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 11:51 AM

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What stick are you going from and going to?

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Because, maybe not

ruby field Jun 2, 2021, 11:52 AM

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just got a Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! (zzh!)

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CC2652R

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coming from the sonoff USB C2531 I think

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 11:52 AM

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Then look at the top pinned message

ruby field Jun 2, 2021, 11:55 AM

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sour shadow Then look at the top pinned message

this https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#backup-and-restore

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 11:55 AM

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Well, is that the top pinned message?

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Unless you stand on your head, it should be

ruby field Jun 2, 2021, 11:56 AM

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ok ok.. settle I'm not on discord often 😦

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 11:56 AM

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That's the one, and it covers _ ... snapshot the device state and move your network between any supported hardware and firmware versions._

ruby field Jun 2, 2021, 11:57 AM

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have you used it?

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 11:57 AM

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No, but many people have without issues

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Also, what have you got to lose?

ruby field Jun 2, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Awesome..

fringe vault Jun 2, 2021, 12:04 PM

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Cool, Lidl has some gardening "computer" over Zigbee

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actually a water valve, nothing more 😄

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https://www.lidl-shop.be/nl-BE/PARKSIDE-Besproeiingscomputer-Smart-Home-PSBZS-A1/p100325201

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€ 24,99 in Belgium

violet dagger Jun 2, 2021, 12:05 PM

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damn, i hoped it would do all the gardening

fringe vault Jun 2, 2021, 12:10 PM

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😛

cunning trellis Jun 2, 2021, 1:17 PM

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Surgery completed successfully, my CC2531 is now running 20201127

blissful nacelle Jun 2, 2021, 1:55 PM

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how do I recognise which of my serial ports point to my zigbee stick? Have 2 usb devices one of which is my ssh which my whole pi is running of

The offered options are:
/dev/ttyUSB0 - USB Serial, s/n: n/a
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/dev/ttyAMA0 - ttyAMA0, s/n: n/a

jolly narwhal Jun 2, 2021, 1:57 PM

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unplug it, see which one vanishes

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or read from lsusb if you are lucky

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and use persistent paths, not transient ones...

blissful nacelle Jun 2, 2021, 1:58 PM

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jolly narwhal and use persistent paths, not transient ones...

How do I do that?

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do I simply mount the desired device?

jolly narwhal Jun 2, 2021, 1:58 PM

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ls -lla /dev/serial/by-id/

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use the one that corresponds to your zigbee stick

blissful nacelle Jun 2, 2021, 1:59 PM

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and found out its the ttyUSB0 based on unplugging it

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that command returned this:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jun 2 14:58 /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB0
should I do anything more?

jolly narwhal Jun 2, 2021, 2:01 PM

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use that path for mapping the usb stick

blissful nacelle Jun 2, 2021, 2:01 PM

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k, thanks for the help

jolly narwhal Jun 2, 2021, 2:01 PM

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/dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0

thick plover Jun 2, 2021, 2:03 PM

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Whats the best method of tracking power consumption? Voltage? Watts?

jolly narwhal Jun 2, 2021, 2:07 PM

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wattage

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watts == power spent \ generated

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V * I = P

thick plover Jun 2, 2021, 2:53 PM

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Thanks mate

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 3:53 PM

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So, most blueprints for z2m don't work if I use z2m and HA core in docker, is that correct?

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To say, they are made for the z2m version that can be integrated in HA with supervisor and all? I'm somewhat confused...

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 3:55 PM

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It should work regardless - Z2M is Z2M

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:00 PM

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Anyone got any recommendations for door contact sensors that will happily use hue bulbs as routers?

forest cobalt Jun 2, 2021, 4:02 PM

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Nope. First, ANY bulb as a router is generally a bad idea. Get some real mains powered devices as you're going to have nothing but problems relying on just bulbs as routers.

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 4:05 PM

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But I won't have z2m in my integrations list, as it's just messages that come via mqtt, right?

forest cobalt Jun 2, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Correct. You don't need the integration as all your devices are done through MQTT discovery.

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:07 PM

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livid abyss But I won't have z2m in my integrations list, as it's just messages that come vi...

If you look at the configuration -> Devices view you'll see it listed against individual devices when you look at them

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Firmware: Zigbee2MQTT 1.18.3
for instance, under Device Info

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 4:08 PM

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For me most blueprints don't work, like this one https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zha-deconz-zigbee2mqtt-ikea-e1743-on-off-switch-dimmer-universal-blueprint-all-actions-double-click-events-control-lights-media-players-and-more-with-hooks/277861

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:09 PM

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You've set up the required integration input?

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 4:11 PM

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No, not sure what you mean exactly...

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:12 PM

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That blueprint looks to take an input that says what kind of Zigbee integration you're using

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  input:
    integration:
      name: Integration
      description: Integration used for connecting the remote with Home Assistant. Select one of the available values.
      selector:
        select:
          options:
            - deCONZ
            - ZHA
            - Zigbee2MQTT

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Ok, yes it has a dropdown I set to z2m.

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Then it's probably worth asking for help on that thread, since entities are entities, so it's likely a problem relating to that blueprint

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 4:19 PM

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I have one automation that works, but is not reliable. I have to press the button 2-5 times sometime for it to trigger. I thought it was just the zigbee hardware, but z2m sends its mqtt messages every time, and I can see the state change in HA also every time. I have no idea how to check what's going on...

austere patio Jun 2, 2021, 4:20 PM

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earnest sigil Anyone got any recommendations for door contact sensors that will happily use hu...

Have you had problems already with your Aqara stuff interacting with Hue bulbs?

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Well apparently Xiaomi battery stuff will only connect to Xiaomi stuff

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Nah

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Though will happily connect to my non-xiaomi coordinator so 🤷

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:30 PM

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I have Xiaomi battery stuff connected to non-Xiaomi stuff

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Indeed, I have no mains Xiaomi stuff 😂

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Hmm ok was going by what some guy was saying in here yesterday

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Well... as in the pinned messages, Xiaomi stuff (like many other brands) isn't exactly standards compliant

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That thread is worth a read though

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Mine route through Gledopto, Ikea, Innr, Lidl, Hive, and some Salus stuff - plus the DIY routers

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Hmm ok. Last time I looked they were all connected directly to the coordinator despite me repairing them

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Do they work?

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Yeah but I doubt if I put some further away they would. Plus I've temporarily moved the coordinator more central with a cable

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:33 PM

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If you put them further away they'd route differently shrug

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Moving stuff around after you've paired it though, that's a recipe for pain

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Oh

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I was still wondering whether to keep the coordinator in my office in the corner of the houee or move it central

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Mine is in the corner, not ideal, but it all works just fine

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:35 PM

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I had real problems pairing some of my hue bulbs until I moved the coordinator

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Like 5 or 6 that just wouldn't pair. And then I moved the coordinator to the lounge and they all joined quickly

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:36 PM

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https://camo.githubusercontent.com/44d64fc8b311038cbd50fc20950abd298812a671c839a0b7d9e6fce0f10564bb/68747470733a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f386f65307554512e706e67 mine is pretty much where the green humidity symbol next to 45% is

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I have devices in just about every room in the house, routers scattered around, everything works

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Pretty much every window has a Xiaomi sensor on it, only a handful connect directly

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Hmm these just wouldn't pair no matter what I did

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Go read the pinned message on Xiaomi

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Moved the coordinator and bam

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These were hue

sour shadow Jun 2, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Well, who knows then

earnest sigil Jun 2, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Yeah

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It's like they ignored all the other bulbs around them and needed the coordinator to be closer

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 7:20 PM

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With z2m, can I pair devices via a router instead of the coordinator? Like with ZHA.

forest cobalt Jun 2, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Yes

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Do I need to do anything special? I held my Ikea wall plug next to the bulb for pairing, but nothing happened...

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I reset the bulb of course

dry fossil Jun 2, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Why are you trying to pair to a specific device? Pair your device where it's actually going to be positioned, allow the mesh to figure out what its parent should be.

forest cobalt Jun 2, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Yeah, what Mono said... Pairing directly to a router should really only be done in edge cases. It's only part of the Zigbee spec because of those rare cases. Plus, there is zero guarantee that when you pair a child to a router, that'll it'll actually stay on that router.

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 7:36 PM

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The pairing info says to keep the bulb close to the coordinator, I can't do that so I thought I'd bring a router close to the bulb...

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So just keeping the router close should work? I remember with ZHA I had to start the pairing specifically for a router in HA, but can't find such an option in z2m

dry fossil Jun 2, 2021, 8:01 PM

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it shouldn't need to be close unless it's one of those weird devices that uses sound as well.

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Hmm, either with router close or not it does not pair, just blinks. I had it paired via ZHA before.

forest cobalt Jun 2, 2021, 8:08 PM

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What kind of bulb is it?

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Plus, what channel is your Z2M mesh on?

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 8:11 PM

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It's this one https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/LED1546G12.html. I didn't change the channel, so it should be 11 I think?

forest cobalt Jun 2, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Ahhhh... good old Ikea bulbs. Yeah, I've never had good success with them on 11. 15, 20, or 25 are the channels they like.

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What sucks is that if you have an established mesh, changing channels can be a PAIN.

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Hmm, I just paired my first 6 devices, so I guess it would be an ok time to do it now

forest cobalt Jun 2, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Yeah, I'd go with 15 to start (but, be aware of what your WiFi AP channels are set to). If your WiFi channels are low (1,6,11, etc), you'll want to go with 20 or 25 for your Zigbee channel.

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https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/zigbee-wifi-coexistence.html

livid abyss Jun 2, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Thanks, I'll look it up

silk stream Jun 2, 2021, 9:24 PM

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hi friends! i have a husbzb-1 running with zha on my raspi (docker). it worked fine for a while, then it randomly stopped working, then i stopped using HA for a while - now i'm trying to get back into using it, upgraded, but zigbee still isn't working. i can see my zigbee lightbulbs on the map, but triggering them in lovelace doesnt actually do anything. there's also a few worrying lines in the log (lemme dig em out real quick)

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2021-06-02 12:39:38 ERROR (bellows.thread_0) [bellows.uart] Lost serial connection: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)
2021-06-02 12:39:38 ERROR (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart

2021-06-02 12:58:02 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0xF607:1:0x1000]: Couldn't get list of groups: ApplicationController is not running
2021-06-02 12:58:02 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0xF607:1:0x1000]: Couldn't get list of groups: ApplicationController is not running```

gentle flint Jun 2, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Either it's loosing connection to usb (bad power supply) or multiple instance are running at the same time. Check syslog

silk stream Jun 2, 2021, 9:37 PM

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gentle flint Either it's loosing connection to usb (bad power supply) or multiple instance ar...

syslog as in /var/log/syslog on the host? what am i looking for?

atomic thicket Jun 2, 2021, 9:38 PM

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Hi everyone, I have issues getting zigbee to function after a (presumed) SD card crash. I set up a completely new rig with RPi4 and SSD. Everything went fine up to the point where I installed mosquitto broker and zigbee2mqtt

atomic thicket Jun 2, 2021, 9:39 PM

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atomic thicket Hi everyone, I have issues getting zigbee to function after a (presumed) SD card...

The devices just won't pair, sometimes I get the ID, but it says it's unsupported. This was not an issue before...

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The logs say nothing...

austere patio Jun 2, 2021, 9:47 PM

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silk stream syslog as in `/var/log/syslog` on the host? what am i looking for?

If you run dmesg you should see lines referring to the USB device. Usually when it disconnects there is something logged.

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If not, make sure that you are not running two HA instances (e.g. two containers by accident?) and that only one process is using the serial port.

wintry horizon Jun 2, 2021, 9:55 PM

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hey guys. I just got some LED1924G9 Ikea bulbs and these ones wont do anything but say unsupported even though they are supported on z2mqtt https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/LED1924G9.html i do have some other ikea bulbs but they were a different model number but they work perfectly.

silk stream Jun 2, 2021, 9:55 PM

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austere patio If you run `dmesg` you should see lines referring to the USB device. Usually whe...

hmmm not seeing anything suspicious in dmesg: https://pastebin.com/iXZ8jr6f
also only see one docker container running -

CONTAINER ID        IMAGE                                             COMMAND             CREATED             STATUS              PORTS               NAMES
16d7369132eb        homeassistant/raspberrypi4-homeassistant:stable   "/init"             3 hours ago         Up 2 hours                              home-assistant```

wintry horizon Jun 2, 2021, 9:55 PM

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https://gyazo.com/310b7da3ade7d5d48d9dad8ecc61275a anyone have any recommendations on how to fix this?

silk stream Jun 2, 2021, 9:57 PM

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austere patio If not, make sure that you are not running two HA instances (e.g. two containers...

lsof|grep tty gives me this, but idk what to make of it:

bash        776                              pi    1u      CHR        4,1      0t0       5745 /dev/tty1
bash        776                              pi    2u      CHR        4,1      0t0       5745 /dev/tty1
bash        776                              pi  255u      CHR        4,1      0t0       5745 /dev/tty1```

atomic thicket Jun 2, 2021, 10:04 PM

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atomic thicket The logs say nothing...

Ah, silly me RPi4 and interference.... used an USB extension cable and everything works...

wintry horizon Jun 2, 2021, 10:22 PM

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wintry horizon hey guys. I just got some LED1924G9 Ikea bulbs and these ones wont do anything b...

anyone have any paths to put me down for this? 😦

austere patio Jun 2, 2021, 10:22 PM

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wintry horizon anyone have any paths to put me down for this? 😦

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/how_tos/how_to_support_new_devices.html

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I'd check if it's already supported in the dev branch. If not, Z2M requires every possible device to be explicitly supported, even if it's a minor variation of an already functional device so you likely need to just copy/paste its model info into some file.

wintry horizon Jun 2, 2021, 10:33 PM

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austere patio I'd check if it's already supported in the dev branch. If not, Z2M requires ever...

i see. its just weird. the model number does match exactly.

silk stream Jun 2, 2021, 10:34 PM

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any other ideas what might be going on with my setup? or things i could prod to debug further?

dry fossil Jun 2, 2021, 10:46 PM

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wintry horizon i see. its just weird. the model number does match exactly.

I've seen the logs claim something's unsupported when the interview went wonky. If you're sure that model is supported, just keep trying. My IKEA devices took soooo many attempts to pair (30+ per device, I was ready to throw myself out of a window that day).

silk stream Jun 3, 2021, 12:18 AM

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digging into this some more, everything seems to fail with. 2021-06-02 17:17:03 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.entity] light.bathroom: turned on: {'on_off': ControllerError('ApplicationController is not running')} now only to figure out why it isnt running lol

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2021-06-02 17:11:35 ERROR (bellows.thread_0) [bellows.uart] Lost serial connection: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)
2021-06-02 17:11:35 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] /dev/ttyUSB1 connection lost unexpectedly: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)
2021-06-02 17:11:35 ERROR (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart
2021-06-02 17:11:41 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] Resetting EZSP
2021-06-02 17:11:41 ERROR (bellows.thread_0) [bellows.uart] Lost serial connection: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)
2021-06-02 17:11:41 ERROR (bellows.thread_0) [bellows.uart] Lost serial connection: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)
2021-06-02 17:11:41 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] /dev/ttyUSB1 connection lost unexpectedly: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)
2021-06-02 17:11:41 ERROR (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart
2021-06-02 17:11:41 ERROR (bellows.thread_0) [bellows.uart] Lost serial connection: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)
``` guess it boils down to the same thing again

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 1:43 AM

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I believe you're using a Pi as well. Do you have it plugged into a USB 2.0 port (not 3.0)? With an extension cable? And you're not running a SSD off of the USB ports as well, right?

gentle flint Jun 3, 2021, 4:10 AM

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What pi is this? And depending how are you running docker, it may not deal correctly with usb hot-plugging. That error indicates that it cannot communicate with the usb adapter. Replug adapter and reboot the host.

solid inlet Jun 3, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Ok, I got the one mesh part but... What if having several coordinators on different zigbee channels?

jolly narwhal Jun 3, 2021, 6:16 AM

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There is no advantage to that

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It will create interference

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And your meshes will be weaker

jolly narwhal Jun 3, 2021, 6:18 AM

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silk stream ```2021-06-02 17:11:35 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] Controlle...

And stop using non persistent paths to the adapter

solid inlet Jun 3, 2021, 6:23 AM

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Aha. Ok, sound like a bad idea then. I am still trying to build some kind of "redundancy" into this. If the coordinator fails everything does until new one in place. Perhaps there is no way to do that...

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 6:29 AM

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Buy a spare coordinator, take backups when you add a new device, and in the unlikely event of your coordinator failing swap in the replacement and restore the backup

jolly narwhal Jun 3, 2021, 7:05 AM

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this

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I have slapped and spanked my coordinators for almost three years

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they have never failed

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probably never will

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but now I have a spare, just because I wanted to try a second model

frosty shore Jun 3, 2021, 7:38 AM

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Sorry, don't slap me too hard (I tried to find discussion related to this, but failed);

Is there a workaround how to get the Ikea Fyrtur covers to work with the 2021.6.0 version? After I updated into this version, my Home Assistant does not want to play together with Zigbee2mqtt, with the covers and I'm unable to control or even monitor the status of these covers from HA.
Log error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rjNHY4G2bt/

I don't know if I should do something about this, is it something I could/should fix via configurations or is this a bug in HA/zigbee2mqtt/somewhere?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 7:41 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2021/06/02/release-20216/#other-breaking-changes - under MQTT

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https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/7680

frosty shore Jun 3, 2021, 7:45 AM

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Thanks :) I did read the Breaking Changes thoroughly yes, but failed to find what should I as user to actually do in order to keep it working. But I'll follow this issue for the time being!

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 7:50 AM

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Mostly in these cases the only things you can do are:

Get involved in future betas (I have a separate install for testing betas with)
Ensure the issue is raised with the dev of the other software

frosty shore Jun 3, 2021, 8:00 AM

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For the record, fix can be found here: https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/releases/tag/1.19.0

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:02 AM

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I know 1.19 has caused issues for a few folks, but I don't know how widespread it is

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https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/7665

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That looks to only be CC253x users

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 8:04 AM

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yep, I was just about to note that 😉

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:05 AM

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It also looks like they all have old coordinator firmware

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 8:05 AM

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I did a repairing round through the house and it works stable again. But I only have 9 devices, if you have way more that might not be an option 😉

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Upgraded firmware too indeed, never did that before (which means I was running 20190109 )

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:05 AM

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Yeah, I wonder if the 2019 firmware has bugs... oh, hang on, what am I saying ablobjoy

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 8:07 AM

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But as I didn't have a CC download cable, I just sticked with it. Performed surgery on the device yesterday (had to do some magic with dupont cables that were having too large connectors), now it works again.

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:07 AM

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Anybody with one of those should have a flash cable/capability anyway

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Or should be planning on replacing it with something that's actually good

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 8:07 AM

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I was thinking about the latter, but hey: "it still works" 🤷‍♂️

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If I buy a new device, I need to be able to hide the purchase from Ms Hmmbob 😉 😉

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/kidding

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:09 AM

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They're really small, and easy to hide in the post

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ablobjoy

frosty shore Jun 3, 2021, 8:19 AM

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does it break something if I uninstall the current z2m 1.1.18.1-1 and install the new 1.19.0-1 from another source? I mean, do I need to backup the configurations or something?

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or should it be "drop in replacement"-ish?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Ah, you're an add-on user...

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As far as I know, no

frosty shore Jun 3, 2021, 8:20 AM

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no for it shouldn't break or no for it's not drop in replacement? :D

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:21 AM

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No, it shouldn't break

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But, I'd take a snapshot first, just in case

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:33 AM

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https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/j5WKBxG8Cd/

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lil help before the wife kills me?

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Tried to restart z2m and it died in the arse and will not restart

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:34 AM

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Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:34 AM

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any idea how I can fix that?

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think it could be looking at the wrong port?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:34 AM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/FAQ.html#error-srsp---sys---ping-after-6000ms

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:34 AM

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ha

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read the docs

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:34 AM

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And a few thousand Google hits on it too 😄

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Fuck Google, I come to the pros for help

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:35 AM

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The CC2530/31 are well known for locking up and requiring removed and re-inserted

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:35 AM

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I have a zig zah hah or whatever

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:35 AM

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But, if you're using the /dev/tty* path, that can change

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:35 AM

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yeah thats what I was using

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:35 AM

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If you're on the pre 2021 firmware with the ZZH then that also has lockup bugs

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:36 AM

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should be the most recent (or whatever was most recent 6 weeks ago when I got it)

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:36 AM

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shrug

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Should be and reality often differ

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:36 AM

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this is true

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:37 AM

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Check the path first, and switch to using the long one, /dev/serial/...

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:38 AM

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/dev/ttyUSB0 potentially

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 8:40 AM

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I've mapped mine to /dev/zigbee (and the zwave adapter to /dev/zwave obviously), so there can be no mistakes. Need to find the tutorial on how i did this though

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:41 AM

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please pass on when you do!

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[    0.000000] Kernel command line: coherent_pool=1M 8250.nr_uarts=0 snd_bcm2835.enable_compat_alsa=0 snd_bcm2835.enable_hdmi=1  smsc95xx.macaddr=DC:A6:32:73:88:C2 vc_mem.mem_base=0x3ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x40000000  console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 root=PARTUUID=9d036fca-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes rootwait
[    0.001808] printk: console [tty1] enabled
[    1.438681] fe201000.serial: ttyAMA0 at MMIO 0xfe201000 (irq = 36, base_baud = 0) is a PL011 rev2
[    5.054774] usb 1-1.2: ch341-uart converter now attached to ttyUSB0

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I am guessing that ttyUSB0 is where it is

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which is what is in the config.yaml also

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/dev/ttyUSB0 is listed in the config yaml

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permit_join: true
mqtt:
  base_topic: zigbee2mqtt
  server: 'mqtt://localhost'
  user: '!secret mqtt_user'
  password: '!secret mqtt_pass'
serial:
  port: /dev/ttyUSB0

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 8:46 AM

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I've got this in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules on my Docker host:

SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0451", ATTRS{idProduct}=="16a8", SYMLINK+="zigbee"
SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0658", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0200", SYMLINK+="zwave"

This makes my adapters always come back online under /dev/zigbee and /dev/zwave respectively, regardless of which port or order they are plugged in

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:49 AM

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ls -al /dev/serial/by-id/

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 8:49 AM

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Tutorial here: http://hintshop.ludvig.co.nz/show/persistent-names-usb-serial-devices/

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:49 AM

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Or just use the fact that these days you get a unique path all the time anyway

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:50 AM

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sour shadow `ls -al /dev/serial/by-id/`

returns lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Apr 18 19:15 usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB0

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:50 AM

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There you go, you have a nice long unique path already

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:50 AM

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so if thats in my config, why is it not working

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is there a way to display the full path?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:51 AM

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Well, the problem is you're not using it

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You're using /dev/ttyUSB0

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:51 AM

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I am lost mate.

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 8:52 AM

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Use /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:54 AM

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also, my z2m log is fkn massive, how can I just restart and see what the log spits out about the restart?

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using docker...

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docker start zigbee2mqtt -a

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got it

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 8:56 AM

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Yeah, it'll rotate the log. You can find old logs in the /log folder

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:56 AM

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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-06-03 18:55:51: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0'

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still...

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:56 AM

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Check your container config

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You have to pass that device in

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:56 AM

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ah

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:56 AM

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Bet you're not 😉

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:57 AM

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I doubt I am because I didn't know I had to, nor how to HAHAHA

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I love coming here, always turn up with a problem, feel like a dumb / shit c*** and then leave feeling enlightened

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Learning by figuring it out yourself 👍
(with some helpful pointers, of course)

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:58 AM

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so where do I find the container config usually? is that the one inside the actual container?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Well, how are you running it?

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:59 AM

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compose

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 8:59 AM

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Then your compose file...

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 8:59 AM

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hmmm the new file path is listed there...

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https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/XzQPcjR6cS/

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:00 AM

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Did you rebuild the container?

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:00 AM

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no...

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not going to lose everything am i?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:01 AM

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docker-compose up -d zigbee2mqtt

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:02 AM

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hmmm now its just sitting as restarting...

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:02 AM

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You can watch the logs

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:02 AM

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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-06-03 19:02:21: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-06-03 19:02:21: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/FAQ.html#help-zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-06-03 19:02:21: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-06-03 19:02:21: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0'

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again, the same thing

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is it a permissions thing by any chance?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:03 AM

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No

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It's a layer 8 thing

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    devices:
      - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0:/dev/ttyUSB0

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Do you understand what that line is doing?

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:03 AM

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yes

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:03 AM

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Then explain it to me 😉

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Because I don't think you do

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:03 AM

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one side is the container, one side is my pi

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the : splits it yeah?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:03 AM

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Yes

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:03 AM

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WOWEE

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:03 AM

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So, the left side is the path on the host, the right side is the path in the container

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:04 AM

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following

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:04 AM

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So, with that in mind, why the f**k did you tell Z2M to use the the path on the host

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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-06-03 19:02:21: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0'

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:04 AM

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uhm, thought you guys said to?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:04 AM

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😂

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Well, yes, but no

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:05 AM

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fkn hell mate, english!

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:05 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-well-yes-no-yes-yes-no-gif-13736934

Tenor

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You have to pass that path to the container, since that path will never change

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However, you can call it whatever the hell you like in the container

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You called it /dev/ttyUSB0

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:05 AM

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ah

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:05 AM

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So, you know, in the container you kinda have to use that

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:06 AM

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and I pass that path via the compose file?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:06 AM

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Ok, step back a moment

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    devices:
      - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0:/dev/ttyUSB0
        ^-- path on the host --------------------------^ ^- path in the container

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You already passed a path to the container

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:07 AM

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oh

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:07 AM

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So, the container sees /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0 as /dev/ttyUSB0

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:07 AM

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ok

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so I should be putting /dev/ttyUSB0 in the config.yaml?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:10 AM

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Yes, since that's the path in the container

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:10 AM

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and in the docker-compose file the 'host' path?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:11 AM

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Your compose file is fine

violet dagger Jun 3, 2021, 9:11 AM

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i think you need a venn diagram

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:11 AM

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And possibly a little more time with the Docker docs

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:11 AM

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i won't need a venn diagram when I've got a bullet in the head

violet dagger Jun 3, 2021, 9:12 AM

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thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:12 AM

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violet dagger

where'd you find that pic of me?

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still failing to understand how this has occured though considering I have not touched a single thing, the device has not power cycled since it was set up etc etc

obsidian sandalBOT Jun 3, 2021, 9:13 AM

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Remember, a few hours of trial and error can save you several minutes of reading the documentation.

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:18 AM

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so this compose file https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/XzQPcjR6cS/
and this z2m config file https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/rKFsD5RKjR/

should be working

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:18 AM

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Looks good

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:19 AM

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I wonder what else could be the problem then 😦

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:20 AM

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Push the reset button on the stick, try again

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Basically, follow all the FAQ steps

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:20 AM

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yeah just power cycled the pi

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:21 AM

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You may still need to push the reset button, not entirely sure

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:21 AM

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ok

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:21 AM

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Or flash it with the current firmware

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:22 AM

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ok its working now

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not feeling very enlightened this time tho

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 9:27 AM

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But you did learn something!

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:29 AM

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yeah that I am a dumb c***

jolly narwhal Jun 3, 2021, 9:29 AM

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nothing new then

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😄

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 9:29 AM

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That you don't yet understand Docker "enough"

cunning trellis Jun 3, 2021, 9:29 AM

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And that you need a few more hours of trial and error 😉

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 9:30 AM

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haha

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I was refreshed on some things

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and always turn it off and on again

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and now I have to figure out how the hell to reset / unpair an old philips hue LED strip

long junco Jun 3, 2021, 10:37 AM

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I have a Sonoff zigbee door sensor connected on ZHA, which works fine, but goes unavailable overnight or if we don't open the door. Opening the door then triggers it, so I suspect it's just not sending to HA when nothing happens. I am sure I have seen something about changing the timeout, but I can't find it. Please could someone point me in the right direction. Ideally I just want to override the time on this one sensor, the others are all Aqara and work fine as they send the battery status every couple of hours.

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 10:39 AM

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The Sonoffs are known for being junk

thick plover Jun 3, 2021, 10:47 AM

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thanks for putting up with my shit lads

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that was frustrating, literally started working as the wife walked in from work 😄

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 12:01 PM

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Hello. Does anyone know if there is a way to trigger (via a service call?) the ZHA Integration's "Update configuration" event (reachable via UI: Configuration-->Integrations-->ZHA/Configure-->Update configuration). This seems to fix my problems when my Sonoff ZB Bridge drops out with "[bellows.ezsp] NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart". Thank you.

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 12:42 PM

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nimble light Hello. Does anyone know if there is a way to trigger (via a service call?) the ...

This is very much not a solution 😆

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That error is logged only when serial communication with your bridge is broken

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So the underlying problem needs to be fixed (i.e. reposition the bridge or get a better wireless router)

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 12:44 PM

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Or replace it with something that doesn't use WiFi, since WiFi and Zigbee on one device, that close together, that's not a good plan

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 12:54 PM

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long junco I have a Sonoff zigbee door sensor connected on ZHA, which works fine, but goes...

Try opening/closing the door to keep the sensor awake (or maybe clicking the button if there is one) and then clicking the "reconfigure" button in the device page. ZHA should have setup reporting for the battery status, which would cause the sensor to check-in periodically and let ZHA know that it's alive.

long junco Jun 3, 2021, 1:27 PM

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austere patio Try opening/closing the door to keep the sensor awake (or maybe clicking the but...

That works OK except it normally goes off when we are asleep.

long junco Jun 3, 2021, 1:29 PM

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sour shadow The Sonoffs are known for being junk

I know that is why I only have 1. I am currently waiting on the some replacement aqura ones, but in the meantime wondered if I could tweak something to stop HA assuming it's gone away. It's sitting within 2 metres of a Router in a switch.

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 1:29 PM

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The problem is the device isn't reporting/responding

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 1:40 PM

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long junco That works OK except it normally goes off when we are asleep.

Right. But the problem seems to be that the device was never fully initialized by ZHA and didn't setup some sort of periodic reporting. Does it have a battery status?

long junco Jun 3, 2021, 1:42 PM

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It does, but it only seems to report it when the door opens/closes

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I will have another go at pairing it to see if that helps. I have tried that a few times before though

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 1:43 PM

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Hmm, that shouldn't be showing up then if battery reporting wasn't setup properly

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Could just be a weird sensor

long junco Jun 3, 2021, 1:45 PM

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Yes, don't worry when the slow boat from China delivers my new pack I will replace it and put it in the "don't buy the VERY cheap" stuff pile!

livid abyss Jun 3, 2021, 5:10 PM

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When I change the 'friendly name' in z2m via the web gui, will that be reflected in HA?

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 5:10 PM

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Yes

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Assuming of course you enable that when renaming it 😉

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Turn it on, and as it suggests, it'll update the HA entity

livid abyss Jun 3, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Is that in the z2m settings or HA? Can't find it in z2m...

forest cobalt Jun 3, 2021, 5:15 PM

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It's in Z2M when you click on the Rename button in the UI.

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It's a per device "setting" that doesn't stay sticky.

livid abyss Jun 3, 2021, 5:17 PM

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I was looking the settings, thanks!

graceful notch Jun 3, 2021, 5:31 PM

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is there a way to make the aqara switch not report every hour the battery state ?
feels a bit overkill and draining more battery than needed

sour shadow Jun 3, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Sure, pull the battery out

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You need it to be talking on the mesh regularly so it doesn't fall off

graceful notch Jun 3, 2021, 5:34 PM

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yeah, it might just be something I notice now, because I'm adding more devices in one time

analog flicker Jun 3, 2021, 5:41 PM

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If I take a device out of range (like miles) and bring it back, will it automatically reconnect or would I need to repair it?

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Specially an aqara zigbee vibration sensor

forest cobalt Jun 3, 2021, 5:44 PM

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It should, yes. Although, Aqara devices are notorious for not reconnecting automatically when separated from their parent router.

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 6:21 PM

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graceful notch is there a way to make the aqara switch not report every hour the battery state ...

You can't configure the attribute reporting interval for Aqara sensors but I wouldn't worry about it. I think I change my batteries like once every two years.

graceful notch Jun 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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that's good to hear @austere patio

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I should worry less 😉

dry fossil Jun 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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Zigbee is designed to be incredibly efficient anyway, so once an hour is nothing.

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Once a minute would still last forever.

graceful notch Jun 3, 2021, 7:07 PM

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now to figure out what I can do with the vibration sensors 😄

dry fossil Jun 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Use them as a trigger for mood lighting and romantic music in the bedroom, of course.

forest cobalt Jun 3, 2021, 7:17 PM

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graceful notch now to figure out what I can do with the vibration sensors 😄

They do great as glass break sensors. 😉

graceful notch Jun 3, 2021, 7:18 PM

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that's what I already had in mind, for the glass breaking

dry fossil Jun 3, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Ya huh... 'glass breaking'

graceful notch Jun 3, 2021, 7:19 PM

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or opening windows

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I could also mount one on the dogs bench

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and try one in my car, if the signal is strong enough

dry fossil Jun 3, 2021, 7:20 PM

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So you know how many reps it pressed?

forest cobalt Jun 3, 2021, 7:20 PM

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lol

dry fossil Jun 3, 2021, 7:21 PM

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graceful notch and try one in my car, if the signal is strong enough

This is your only bad idea so far. You don't want to use a mesh device if it's going to be out of range of the mesh.

forest cobalt Jun 3, 2021, 7:22 PM

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I use presence sensors in both of our cars. They actually work better than I thought they would initially.

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BUT... I also have some really good routers as well (CC2652P2).

graceful notch Jun 3, 2021, 7:22 PM

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dry fossil This is your only bad idea so far. You don't want to use a mesh device if it's g...

any specific reason for that? (my brain is gone for the rest of the day)

forest cobalt Jun 3, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Some devices (specifically Aqara and Xiaomi and maybe a few others) have issues reconnecting to their parent router if disconnected for an extended period of time.

graceful notch Jun 3, 2021, 7:24 PM

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oh

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that's actually something I can try

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just move one sensor away for a day

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and see what gives

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and do that routine for a couple of days

forest cobalt Jun 3, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Yup. I've not tried it with any Aqara devices, but my Samsung devices work fine disconnecting/reconnecting to the mesh.

graceful notch Jun 3, 2021, 7:27 PM

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I'll try that and post the results here

dry fossil Jun 3, 2021, 7:32 PM

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graceful notch any specific reason for that? (my brain is gone for the rest of the day)

I didn't give more information because it was already given: #zigbee-archived message

frail shell Jun 3, 2021, 7:55 PM

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downside of replacing the Xiaomi zigbee hub with a usb stick is editing the automations (maybe) but the stick itself seems extremely stable

dry fossil Jun 3, 2021, 7:58 PM

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This is the way.

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 8:34 PM

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austere patio So the underlying problem needs to be fixed (i.e. reposition the bridge or get a...

I know it would be a dirty solution, but only until my zzh! CC2652R stick arrives. The Sonoff ZB Bridge is actually placed right beside the Wifi router, it shows a perfect connection - (100%, -10 dBm), but still drops out constantly...

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 8:41 PM

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nimble light I know it would be a dirty solution, but only until my zzh! CC2652R stick arrive...

You might be able to use https://github.com/walthowd/ha-constant-modifier to tweak https://github.com/zigpy/bellows/blob/dev/bellows/zigbee/application.py#L32-L34

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The radio library should auto reconnect on its own, it probably just takes too long when the bridge disconnects so frequently

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So reduce MAX_WATCHDOG_FAILURES to 0 or 1 so it immediately resets instead of taking a minute

tawdry raft Jun 3, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Hey, since a while I have the problem that I get multiple events (up to five or six events per click) with my various IKEA buttons/remotes. Do you have any tips on what I can do about this?

forest cobalt Jun 3, 2021, 9:03 PM

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Which integration are you using? (Z2M/ZHA/something else)?

tawdry raft Jun 3, 2021, 9:03 PM

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ZHA with a conbee2

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:04 PM

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I believe there was a zigpy issue opened about this exact problem a while ago

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Changing the battery or something fixed it, iirc

molten linden Jun 3, 2021, 9:05 PM

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My smartthings buttons do this when battery is low

tawdry raft Jun 3, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Yes, have found here (https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zha-multiple-events/120878/2) and here(https://github.com/dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin/issues/4227) some on the subject and already tried various things (battery change, ha restart, raspi restart, device reset) but all have not helped. Got a new symfonisk remote today and it has the same problem.

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:29 PM

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Is it possible to run a router firmware e.g. on CS2531 with zha/zigbee2mqtt?

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Seems like it should be possible to connect and send messages to other nodes as a router in general for zigbee...

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(as opposed to controller)

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 9:31 PM

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austere patio You might be able to use https://github.com/walthowd/ha-constant-modifier to twe...

OK, I will try. What exact integration name should I put in the configuration.yaml bellow the "constant_modifier:"?

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:33 PM

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nimble light OK, I will try. What exact integration name should I put in the configuration.y...

I think this will work: ```yaml
constant_modifier:
bellows.zigbee.application:
MAX_WATCHDOG_FAILURES: 0

molten linden Jun 3, 2021, 9:33 PM

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sand egret Is it possible to run a router firmware e.g. on CS2531 with zha/zigbee2mqtt?

yes, google cc2531 router firmware.

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 9:36 PM

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austere patio I think this will work: ```yaml constant_modifier: bellows.zigbee.application:...

And I guess the manifest.json with a "version" is now needed as well?

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:36 PM

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Ah, I forgot they released that

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Won't work, unfortunately. You'll have to edit the package directly within the HA container 😦

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:36 PM

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molten linden yes, google cc2531 router firmware.

thanks - I've tried https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/blob/master/router/Z-Stack_Home_1.2/bin/CC2531_router_2020_09_29.zip which paired with my hive hub controller ok - but had no usb serial. Also tried now the CC2531-router-diag-usb.hex one from ptvo.io - can't pair, but does has usb serial, however zha fails to connect to it (maybe because it's not paired to network?)

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 9:37 PM

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austere patio Ah, I forgot they released that

I am on a Home Assistant OS and cannot access the source files...

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:37 PM

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You can, it's just a bit of a chore

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 9:38 PM

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copy the source to custom_components?

molten linden Jun 3, 2021, 9:38 PM

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I've never used the ones with serial enabled. I think you can hit one of the buttons to reset/get it in pairing mode.

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:40 PM

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It's not a component but a Python package that ZHA indirectly uses. You might be able to put the bellows subdirectory of https://github.com/zigpy/bellows/ into the /config/deps/ folder and edit that, but I think the version number being 0.25.dev0 might make HA re-install it? I have instructions for getting into the appropriate container here (just ignore the installation stuff): https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#in-home-assistant-os

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:40 PM

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Maybe it just doesn't want to pair today - I want to use the router on the pi I'm running HA on as the means of HA talking to the zigbee network....is that really supported? :/

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:41 PM

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Do you have a coordinator?

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:41 PM

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The hive hub is the coordinator I was pairing to.

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(which obv isn't running HA :D)

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:42 PM

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So you're trying to use the CC2531 as a router and want to talk to the Hive hub's network through it?

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:42 PM

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yes...not sure if that's compatible

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I mean you should be able to talk to other devices on the network as a router - but idk you probabbly won't be able to intercept all the messages which might be needed for HA to monitor all the devices on there

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:43 PM

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It's not, unfortunately. I believe the router builds of the CC2531 firmware only spit out diagnostic info. Even if it were to work, ZHA and all the other Zigbee solutions expect to have control over the coordinator

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:44 PM

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yeah makes sense

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:44 PM

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So you can use the CC2531 as a coordinator and just make a new network

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:44 PM

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Can I NAT the two controllers or something? Or proxy devices from one network onto the other?

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Nope

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Very bad things start to happen when two devices on the network both say they're 0x0000

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Sure I get that - and this is probabbly needlessly painful - but can you have e.g. a device with 2 zigbee radios on both networks as a router, and spoof traffic from one network to the other?

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Just wondering if there's a way to get Hive cloud and HA both able to control the devices on the network

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:47 PM

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In theory yes but the transmit part of the firmware is not easy to write

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You can use a CC2531 as a sniffer and just work with the raw Zigbee traffic if you're looking to hack something together yourself

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But you won't be able to transmit, only receive

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Ok, guessing you;d have to write firmware to do that too.

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:50 PM

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There is sniffer firmware but no software that can hook the traffic into e.g. zigpy and then expose it in HA

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:50 PM

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not just void OnRecieve(message) { othernetwork.send(message.source, message.data); } etc

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:50 PM

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You'd likely have much more luck just migrating the entire Zigbee network to HA 😆

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:51 PM

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yeah I will do that if there's no off the shelf sw to do it 😄

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:52 PM

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None that I'm aware of. If you have a large (25+ device) network the CC2531 won't perform all that well as a coordinator due to range issues and firmware stability. The channel's pinned messages have various recommendations for more capable hardware.

sand egret Jun 3, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Yeah read that - I don't, not yet. Thanks for helping!

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:53 PM

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That and it having firmware glitches that cause it to lock up, plus it being its own USB controller, cause it to just completely die unless you cut power every once in a while

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But it's worth the $5 you probably paid for it 😄

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 9:54 PM

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austere patio It's not a component but a Python package that ZHA indirectly uses. You *might* ...

What credentials should I use at this step?: 2. Drop into a regular shell by running login. root does not work, nor my HASS user...

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:55 PM

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Did you get into the HA OS shell?

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Or are you still at the login screen?

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 9:58 PM

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I run login, it asks me core-ssh login:

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Does root not work? In my VM it just logs in without a password.

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Maybe for the SSH addon you have to do some configuration to generate credentials

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 9:59 PM

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core-ssh login: root Login incorrect

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 10:00 PM

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austere patio Maybe for the SSH addon you have to do some configuration to generate credential...

I'll check that

nimble light Jun 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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austere patio Maybe for the SSH addon you have to do some configuration to generate credential...

hmm... I am just using an ssh-rsa key, no other credentials..
`authorized_keys:

"ssh-rsa AKDJD3839...== my-key"
password: ''
`

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Lemme give it a try

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 10:17 PM

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nimble light hmm... I am just using an ssh-rsa key, no other credentials.. `authorized_keys:...

You can omit the login part, the SSH addon just gives you a normal shell to begin with

heavy latch Jun 3, 2021, 10:28 PM

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zigbee2mqtt on hassos, usb coordinator CC1352P-2. Stopped working, here's the log, what is the cause? https://ghostbin.co/paste/vrfw

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 10:32 PM

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Have you unplugged it and plugged it back in?

heavy latch Jun 3, 2021, 10:32 PM

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I didn't, and it's in a place which cant be knocked.

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 10:33 PM

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No I mean have you tried unplugging it and restarting Z2M

heavy latch Jun 3, 2021, 10:33 PM

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To get it working again, I tried toggling a switch a few times from the z2m gui and then it works again. Or restartin z2m will make it work again yeah

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but until I do that, my switches etc dont work, which is no good for the wife 🙂

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 10:34 PM

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Your coordinator shouldn't not respond to a SYS.Version request

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Is this a Z2M startup log?

heavy latch Jun 3, 2021, 10:35 PM

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it was just the log

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 10:35 PM

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So Z2M is functional?

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Does it work after you restart Z2M but not touch the hardware?

heavy latch Jun 3, 2021, 10:36 PM

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yep

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and yep 🙂

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 10:36 PM

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Without actual debug logs for Z2M and herdsman it's hard to tell

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But if it's not a hardware problem then it's a Z2M problem and since I don't use Z2M I probably can't be of much help

heavy latch Jun 3, 2021, 10:37 PM

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I can get the debug logs, turned on debug last time it happened

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Hmm I dont know where the logs are,

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the logs I can find just show Starting zigbee-herdsman and thats it

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Which is kind of pointless...

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the logs in the gui always start with a blank screen, then messages gradually start coming in. Nothing historic

heavy latch Jun 3, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Ah log location was changed...
https://ghostbin.co/paste/hcz4

austere patio Jun 3, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Are you triggering a ton of lights at once?

heavy latch Jun 3, 2021, 11:27 PM

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I wasn't, but maybe the wife pressed the hallway light too many times in a row. She keeps pressing the left switch when she wants to press the right switch (upstairs/downstairs lights)

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She's a nightmare even with regular light switches, click click click. She's great at "testing" stuff

velvet anchor Jun 4, 2021, 1:43 AM

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I'm having an issue with hue bulbs no longer working with effect: colorloop. The bulbs are connected via deconz with a conbee II.
Version core-2021.6.0
Installation Type Home Assistant Container

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Anyone have similar hardware that can test?

fringe zephyr Jun 4, 2021, 1:43 AM

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I want to get an Ikea dimmer switch and bulb. Do I need a hub to do that?

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If so any recommendations?

forest cobalt Jun 4, 2021, 1:46 AM

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@fringe zephyr Click the pushpin icon at the top of the window. Second message in is what you want to start reading.

velvet anchor Jun 4, 2021, 1:49 AM

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For background, I had colorloop working fine, but it stopped working about 3 weeks ago.

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service: light.turn_on
target:
  entity_id: light.living_room_lamp_1
data:
  brightness: 255
  effect: colorloop

will turn the bulb on, but the effect doesn't start

forest cobalt Jun 4, 2021, 1:50 AM

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velvet anchor I'm having an issue with hue bulbs no longer working with `effect: colorloop`. T...

Can you issue the color loop effect through the Deconz UI?

velvet anchor Jun 4, 2021, 1:51 AM

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forest cobalt Can you issue the color loop effect through the Deconz UI?

Phoscon doesn't yet have light effects built into the UI.

forest cobalt Jun 4, 2021, 1:53 AM

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Damnit. I thought they had that by now.

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Yeah, I don't see anything about it in the github issues.

velvet anchor Jun 4, 2021, 1:56 AM

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I had searched myself and didn't see anything. I also posted in the forums the other week and got 0 responses

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I just don't know where to go from here

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seems odd that everything is working, except for effects

forest cobalt Jun 4, 2021, 1:59 AM

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It might be a 2021.6 issue. I'd try posting an issue in github as it might get more visibility by the devs.

velvet anchor Jun 4, 2021, 2:02 AM

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I'm guessing maybe started with 2021.5 but thanks, i'll post on gh

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 2:37 AM

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if a device (in this case a zigbee wired light switch) isn't listed in the z2m supported devices, can it still be integrated to z2m?

forest cobalt Jun 4, 2021, 2:39 AM

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Yup: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/how_tos/how_to_support_new_devices.html

velvet anchor Jun 4, 2021, 4:22 AM

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just a follow up. reverted HA to 2021.4.0 with no change. reverted deconz to amd64-2.11.01 and colorloop is back. 🙂

humble summit Jun 4, 2021, 5:58 AM

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Hey guy's, My house came with downlights from this company: https://gosmartlighting.com.au.
I really want to use my downlights with home assistant but their app (eco1) doesnt integrate, it's google home and alexa capabilities are prettly limited (on/off)

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They came with a remote. Is there anyway that i can get the signal from the remote to use with a zigby adapter and home assistant?

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 6:31 AM

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Are their lights Zigbee? Their range looks rather like WiFi...

humble summit Jun 4, 2021, 6:33 AM

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Thats what the support guy said

humble summit Jun 4, 2021, 6:35 AM

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sour shadow Are their lights Zigbee? Their range looks rather like WiFi...

"Our products use a form of ZigBee with an added security layer"

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 6:35 AM

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blink

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It's Zigbee Jim, but not as we know it

humble summit Jun 4, 2021, 6:36 AM

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Great reference

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 6:36 AM

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It depends whether it's really Zigbee, or whether they really did modify things

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If it's really Zigbee, and their support staff are clueless/brainwashed by their marketing department, you're going to be ok

humble summit Jun 4, 2021, 6:37 AM

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Haha thank you for the reassurance.

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 6:38 AM

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https://zigbeealliance.org/zigbee_products/?product_type=certified_product&se=gosmartlighting shrug - but there's a non-zero chance they're rebadging something made by somebody else

humble summit Jun 4, 2021, 6:38 AM

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How do a go about trying to control the lights with a zigbee adapter then?

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 6:38 AM

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Step #1 - try to pair it with the adapter

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Oh, and those visually look very similar to Gledopto and Nue smart lights

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You can eyeball a large number of devices at https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_devices.html and https://zigbee.blakadder.com/

humble summit Jun 4, 2021, 6:44 AM

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You beauty, thanks so much mate.

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Im going to grill the support guy, see if it is a rebranding and if i can get some decent info out of him

nimble light Jun 4, 2021, 7:26 AM

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austere patio You can omit the `login` part, the SSH addon just gives you a normal shell to be...

it doesn't allow to execute this command in the shell that I am in:
~ $ docker exec -it homeassistant bash -bash: docker: command not found

In the docs of "Home Assistant Add-on: Terminal & SSH" it says:
"Regardless of how you connect (using the web terminal or using an SSH client), you end up in this add-on's container. The Home Assistant configuration directory is located on the path /config."

sand egret Jun 4, 2021, 8:25 AM

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So... lets say I plug a CC2531 into a sbc, code a program with zigbeeNet/zipPy to throw some gpios/be a zigbee switch/light.

Which firmware do I need so that it exposes a usb serial I can communicate on and connects as end-device/router?

sterile sleet Jun 4, 2021, 9:23 AM

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2531 is one of the worst coordinators afaik

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 9:37 AM

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Yes, but it's ok as a router

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_devices.html#custom-devices-diy may have useful links

sand egret Jun 4, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Yeah thanks, I'm just tinkering so far. But is there a firmware which has a usb serial that I can use to make my sbc a zigbee device.

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I get I can just send mqtt over traditional network - but I want to play with a sbc as a zigbee node being a end-device (+router probabbly)

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 9:57 AM

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Well, it's either an end device, or a router

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It's the Zigbee chip that'd handle that though

sand egret Jun 4, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Stuff like lightbulbs are routers, but also things that can be controlled right?

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Yes, and they're not end devices

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See the pinned message about how Zigbee works

sand egret Jun 4, 2021, 9:59 AM

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end-devices don't route other nodes traffic, I get that.

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I just don't care if I make it a router or end device - I just want to write some code to control some stuff and show up as a zigbee device.

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I'm confused about which firmware I need to pick - I need it to have a usb serial so I can interact with it from the code, but I don't want it to be a contoller - so I think I need a router firmware with usb serial? I haven't found one so far

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 10:03 AM

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Did you explore any of the options in the link I posted?

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There's links there to descriptions, with links again to more information, including firmware

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What you're talking about doing isn't going to be trivial though, I hope you've got some significant development experience, or are willing to learn

sand egret Jun 4, 2021, 10:05 AM

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yeah I'm a swe

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Thanks - the only compatible ones I can see there is https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/ti.router.html which points to Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware...

Recommended for CS2531 is home1.2 - I flashed CC2531_router_2020_09_29.zip, but I didn't get any usb serial on /dev/serial and nothing showed up on dmesg that looked bad...

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I was expecting /dev/AMTTY0 (or whatever it comes up as) ... should I have got that with that firmware? 🤔

violet dagger Jun 4, 2021, 10:11 AM

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https://ptvo.info/zigbee-configurable-firmware-features/ offers uart in router firmware

sand egret Jun 4, 2021, 10:18 AM

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Ok, with that I can't use the usb port right? I'd have to wire up the debug connector pins to the sbc and learn how to talk over uart? I was hoping there was a firmware for easy plug in usb->get /dev/AMTTY0->xyz.connect("/dev/AMTTY0").ZigbeeStuff(...)?

Useful information about the board on there though thanks!

heavy latch Jun 4, 2021, 10:24 AM

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Last night my zigbee network stopped behaving itself again, posted here but it was quite late at night. Anyhoo, z2m on hassos with a TI coordinator. Here's the logs around that time. Any ideas? https://ghostbin.co/paste/hcz4

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restarting z2m and everything works again, or toggling something repeatedly via the z2m gui usually kicks it back into life too.

sand egret Jun 4, 2021, 10:27 AM

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It's weird because I flashed z-stack home1.2 CC2531 coordinator, and I got a usb serial

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but when I flashed z-stack home1.2 CC2531 router, I didn't get a usb serial :/

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 10:38 AM

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heavy latch Last night my zigbee network stopped behaving itself again, posted here but it w...

Which of the many "TI coordinator" options?

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If that's a CC2530/31 then those are known to be crappy

heavy latch Jun 4, 2021, 10:45 AM

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LAUNCHXL-CC1352P-2 recommended by yourself a long time ago 🙂

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I've got a tube poe coordinator on it's way like

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Make sure you're on the 2021 firmware, there's a known lockup bug on the 2020 firmware (at least for the CC2652, but I'd not be surprised if it's the same)

heavy latch Jun 4, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Aye, I'm on the latest, I think january 2021

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If it's a usb issue (hassos is in a VM) then hopefully the tube poe one will resolve that, also considering moving z2m to docker failing that.

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It's occasional, usually only once per week or 10 days, sometimes after only a couple of days.

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 11:28 AM

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humble summit Im going to grill the support guy, see if it is a rebranding and if i can get so...

which company was it?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 12:05 PM

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Hi, after update from core-2021.5.5 to core-2021.6.1 ZHS cant not be loaded anymore:

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log: Couldn't start application
14:04:45 – (ERROR) /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zigpy/application.py

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what am i missing?

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rolling back to latest snapshots and it works again

humble summit Jun 4, 2021, 12:51 PM

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humble summit Hey guy's, My house came with downlights from this company: https://gosmartlight...

@thick plover

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 12:52 PM

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Ah, thought maybe it was another mob that installed

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or do they do installs too?

humble summit Jun 4, 2021, 12:54 PM

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installs too

eternal phoenix Jun 4, 2021, 1:15 PM

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hello. We have moved our Hue setup over to Zigbee2MQTT, but an issue we have is that when switching on/off/etc many lights at once, some of them have a serious and random delay? This never used to happen on Hue? Is there something that can be done to fix this?

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 1:16 PM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/groups.html and https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/integration/home_assistant.html#groups

eternal phoenix Jun 4, 2021, 1:20 PM

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those are at the network level? I previously read the groups section in the second link and it came off as just a way to expose things to HA, basically an equivalent of HA's light groups. But it's actually not?

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 1:23 PM

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No, it's not

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The result is that there's a single broadcast message on the mesh, telling every member of group whale to do something

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 1:26 PM

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I set groups up in z2m but they never made it to HA as entities

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 1:26 PM

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See the links above

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 1:27 PM

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🤓

eternal phoenix Jun 4, 2021, 1:42 PM

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thanks Tinkerer, that's very useful. Have you also ever used the front-end of Z2M to bind zigbee devices? I can't get mine working due to a ridiculous bug where it resets the input every few seconds

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 1:45 PM

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Yeah, it's a known bug - I don't know if it's fixed in 1.19, or if it'll be a later release

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 2:31 PM

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hmmm so adding the following to my light.yaml does not throw anything up in the entities.... no doub't I am doing something wrong...

- platform: mqtt
  schema: json
  name: office_lights_z2m
  command_topic: "zigbee2mqtt/Office_Lights/set"
  state_topic: "zigbee2mqtt/Office_Lights"
  brightness: true

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Did you restart HA after adding that?

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Did you check the topics are correct?

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 2:33 PM

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I restarted the template entities

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wait.... maybe its groups I am meant to...

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hmmm nope

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 2:34 PM

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sour shadow Did you check the topics are correct?

will double check that now

obsidian sandalBOT Jun 4, 2021, 2:34 PM

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@thick plover When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 2:34 PM

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woops

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my bad

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 2:34 PM

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ablobjoy

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 2:35 PM

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i usually turn it off

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off topic here, but when the heck is the HA website going to get a dark mode? kills my eyes

jolly narwhal Jun 4, 2021, 2:36 PM

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you use the website ?

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 2:36 PM

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I READ THE DOCS MKAY

jolly narwhal Jun 4, 2021, 2:37 PM

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you haven't memorized them ?

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shame

thick plover Jun 4, 2021, 2:37 PM

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my brain is already full of shit

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😄

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its all so tiresome. i will try this another time.

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 3:20 PM

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sand egret I'm confused about which firmware I need to pick - I need it to have a usb seria...

The Z-Stack coordinator firmware lets you pick the logical device type at runtime and add endpoints/clusters. I've never tried turning the CC2531 into an end device myself but the entire management and testing command set is mapped out in https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/. Take a look in the docs folder for Z-Stack docs. There's a SYS.GPIO command as well.

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 3:28 PM

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arctic locust log: Couldn't start application 14:04:45 – (ERROR) /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site...

Can you get a more complete error message? https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#debug-logging

eternal phoenix Jun 4, 2021, 3:50 PM

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This here seems to imply that Hue bulbs do not support stage changes? https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/binding.html
But the default reporting on Hue coloured GU10s seems to report everything? https://i.imgur.com/mWNyQ9r.png Am I misunderstanding something, or is the information outdated?

sour shadow Jun 4, 2021, 4:05 PM

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That's about reporting when a device causes a state change - the remote you've bound to the light

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:20 PM

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nimble light it doesn't allow to execute this command in the shell that I am in: ` ~ $ docker...

I think I see the problem. There are two SSH addons: "Terminal & SSH" (official) and "SSH & Web Terminal" (community). The former is pretty much useless and gives you SSH access to the /config/ folder. The second one is what I was using: https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-ssh/blob/main/ssh/DOCS.md

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:31 PM

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austere patio Can you get a more complete error message? https://www.home-assistant.io/integra...

i hope i got the right section:

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--> what is the best way to post a log?

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:37 PM

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arctic locust --> what is the best way to post a log?

You can use https://paste.ubuntu.com/

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:38 PM

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austere patio You can use https://paste.ubuntu.com/

thanks, here it is:

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9v2J5M97bF/

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Can you post the whole thing, up to the error message?

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Or just the lines with zigpy or zha

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:44 PM

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sure, I just realised, that the log start on the top... 😆

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7WQvwFWgnH/

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:44 PM

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Is there any more?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:45 PM

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one second

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this should be everything: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WCQTvvykz8/

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Hmmmm. Thanks, I'll take a look.

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:47 PM

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there must be a better way to sort the log then "Ctrl+F"...?

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thanks a lot!

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Hmmm. Did you do any sort of backup/restore with this thing?

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The launchxl kit

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:53 PM

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yes, I transfered from CC2531 to TI Launchboard

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correct

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Yeah, that didn't work too well 😆

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:53 PM

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oh...

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Did you copy over the NVRAM directly?

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That's what looks like what happened

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You want this one instead: https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#network-backup-beta

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:54 PM

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no, I delted the Integration and installed it new, the choose the new Launchpad

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Right but the NVRAM state of your adapter doesn't match its architecture. It looks like you copied the NVRAM from a CC2531 straight to this board

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:56 PM

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not on purpose...

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Were you previously able to use it with the old home assistant?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:56 PM

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yes

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only update to 2021.6.1 killed it

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:57 PM

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That is very surprising

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When did you migrate from the CC2531?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:58 PM

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May this year

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Did any devices transfer with the migration?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 4:59 PM

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all, I had to rename the entities after and it worked

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-change-seriel-dev-of-zigbee-integration/304126/4

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 5:01 PM

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So to be clear, you never ran anything like zigpy_znp.tools.nvram_write?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 5:01 PM

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no

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Just flashed the LAUNCHXL board with firmware and changed the entry in .storage?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 5:02 PM

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flashed it correct

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and then deleted the integration and installed it new, choose the new controller and renamed the entities

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so no editing in any files

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Hmm. And you're saying that devices that were on your CC2531 network "moved" to the LAUNCHXL's network without you having to do anything other than rename entities? You didn't have to re-join them to the network?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 5:06 PM

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correct

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 5:08 PM

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I am not seeing how that's possible, since a freshly-flashed LAUNCHXL board would be given completely random network settings when ZHA starts up with it, same way the CC2531 was given completely random settings

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Did you use UNIFLASH or some other tool?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 5:09 PM

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I used UNIFLASH

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Since you're saying it's working with a previous release of Home Assistant, could you gather a debug log with it successfully starting up with the old version?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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of course

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vSpfpb4dJM/

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Parsed NIB: CC2531NIB is not supposed to happen for a LAUNCHXL board 🤔

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This thing is in a bad state. So to confirm: you bought a LAUNCHXL board some time in May, flashed it with Z-Stack 20210120 with UNIFLASH, added it ZHA, then this upgrade broke it? You didn't use Z2M at any point or do any sort of backup/restore stuff beyond editing the serial port path in .storage?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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I bought it way earlier, but the rest is correct

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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No flash or NVRAM backup/restore with the CC2531?

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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correct

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Do you know roughly when you would have added it to ZHA? I'm just trying to figure out what package version would have been responsible for setting up your board, to see what could have gone wrong

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 5:19 PM

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I added the Launchboard May 1st this year (it was in the closet for some time)

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Thanks for the info. If you want to give it a try, can you follow the installation instructions in https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md (to get access to zigpy-znp's tools, which can also be run on a separate computer) and make a complete NVRAM backup (https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#nvram-backup )? That way I can make a copy of your coordinator to see what can be done about this problem...

arctic locust Jun 4, 2021, 5:33 PM

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I try, but it will be tomorrow or Sunday, I'll get back to you! thanks a lot!

austere patio Jun 4, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Sure thing. Thanks again for the help.

solar oriole Jun 4, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Hey, yesterday I installed home assistant for the first time, and I'm confused because this led strip (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/HG06104A.html) didn't work as expected. I'm using zigbee2mqtt on another machine and I'm using the mqtt integration. While all other devices(sensors) directly showed up and showed all desired data, I could not interact with the led strip. The toggle just jumps back to off and nothing happens. Now the documentation mentions a manual configuration, and when I use this, I'm able to control the strip through HA. Is this the way to go or should this work "out of the box"? Because the documentation states, "MQTT discovery is preferred" and I'm concerned that I misconfigured something.

torn pawn Jun 5, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Anyone here buy this bad boy and get it to work in home assistant?? I’m using conbee 2.

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 5:20 AM

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austere patio Sure thing. Thanks again for the help.

just did the backup: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TpJ6DBsnSy/

nimble light Jun 5, 2021, 9:55 AM

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austere patio I think I see the problem. There are *two* SSH addons: "Terminal & SSH" (officia...

@austere patio - spot on. Thank you.
I am inside:
➜ ~ docker exec -it homeassistant bash bash-5.0# ls
What should I do next?

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 2:45 PM

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nimble light <@!652580495892152331> - spot on. Thank you. I am inside: ` ➜ ~ docker exec -it...

I think you wanted to tweak the watchdog timeouts within bellows for your WiFi bridge, so edit /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/bellows/zigbee/application.py and maybe reduce MAX_WATCHDOG_FAILURES to 0 so that it starts reconnecting sooner

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 2:53 PM

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arctic locust just did the backup: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TpJ6DBsnSy/

Thanks, I think I can see how to fix this strange problem. Did you buy this LAUNCHXL board used by any chance? UNIFLASH doesn't wipe the board's flash by default when you flash new firmware and seems to retain old settings.

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 2:55 PM

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i used it before in a FHEM setup, so it was used before.

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Hmm, I wasn't aware of that platform. What does it use to talk to the Zigbee board?

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 2:59 PM

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it's mostly in German, that's maybe the reason. It uses Zigbee2mqtt

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Was the CC2531 you were using before flashed with 3.0.x firmware or was it the default Z-Stack Home 1.2?

graceful notch Jun 5, 2021, 3:01 PM

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ooh just discovered that the aqara motion sensor also has luminance and temperature

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 3:02 PM

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graceful notch ooh just discovered that the aqara motion sensor also has luminance and temperat...

Temp readings are for the processor and don't really correlate with indoor temperature very well but the light sensor is pretty useful

graceful notch Jun 5, 2021, 3:02 PM

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aha that's good to know

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I have a bunch of temp sensor though, so not that I would rely on it 🙂

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 3:04 PM

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graceful notch I have a bunch of temp sensor though, so not that I would rely on it 🙂

Here's what mine looked like last year: https://i.imgur.com/T7NEGRr.png

graceful notch Jun 5, 2021, 3:13 PM

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ooh nice

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with what app did you do the graph ?

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Just a one-off script with https://matplotlib.org/

graceful notch Jun 5, 2021, 3:16 PM

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ah I was thinking of putting the mqtt messages immediately to a db and use grafana for it

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 3:16 PM

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That'd work too and probably be a bit easier 😆

graceful notch Jun 5, 2021, 3:16 PM

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yeah, I don't like matplotlib in python 😄

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that requires my brain to function well

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just wondering what db i would use for it

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probably mariadb

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 3:20 PM

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austere patio Was the CC2531 you were using before flashed with 3.0.x firmware or was it the d...

i can not say fore sure...

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 3:20 PM

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That's alright, your NVRAM backup is really all I need to get it working

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 3:21 PM

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🙂

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 3:21 PM

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It just seems that somehow either Z2M or some sort of cosmic rays managed to make your LAUNCHXL's settings a mixture of both

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 3:22 PM

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as i am far from being knowledgeable i would love to blame something else 😆

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so procedure would be fixing the NVRAM and loading it back onto the LAUNCHXL?

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Yeah, but I suspect you're not the first one with this problem so I'd like to automate it

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If you want to do it yourself it's not difficult at all

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You just edit the JSON that you sent me and add a few bytes to the end of two entries: 000000000000 at the end of NIB and 00 at the end of the first TCLK_TABLE entry. Then write it back and things should work, but I haven't tested it 100% just yet.

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 3:40 PM

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if this help, then I can go forward with this!

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Hmm. There are a few more fixes, not that simple.

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 3:48 PM

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ok, what can i do to help here?

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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arctic locust ok, what can i do to help here?

Ok, it appears to be fixed from my tests. It'll take a few days for the changes to be included in HA but if you want to try upgrading to the latest HA release again, you can pull the absolute latest changes by following these instructions: https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp#testing-dev-with-home-assistant-os

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If you made any network changes since taking that NVRAM backup (i.e. adding/removing devices), it'd be a good idea to do the NVRAM backup once more

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You should also see significant performance improvements because your LAUNCHXL board was previously being detected as a CC2531 and its maximum concurrency was limited to two requests, instead of 16 😆

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 4:27 PM

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ok, gonna try it, thanks a lot!!

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 4:45 PM

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austere patio Ok, it appears to be fixed from my tests. It'll take a few days for the changes ...

just upgraded to core-2021.6.2 and it works, any easy way to check if everything is now as it should be?

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and thanks again!

austere patio Jun 5, 2021, 4:46 PM

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If HA started then it should be working. You should see sensor updates and be able to control devices if everything is 100% working.

arctic locust Jun 5, 2021, 4:47 PM

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jup everything works like it should!

muted nest Jun 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Just got an email that slaesh is now available again

dry fossil Jun 5, 2021, 5:47 PM

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Been a long time since I heard anyone promote that stick. Weren't there people having support issues?

muted nest Jun 5, 2021, 5:54 PM

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i dont know, i read some issues about that stick too

simple sentinel Jun 5, 2021, 6:01 PM

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the hardware works like a dream; some people have had trouble with receiving their orders in a timely manner.

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So Slaesh sticks are fine but you might be in for an emotional roller coaster getting a hold of it

muted nest Jun 5, 2021, 6:02 PM

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my zzh is on the way i hope it works fine 🙂

simple sentinel Jun 5, 2021, 6:04 PM

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My Slaesh stick might hit the second hand market soon as I am waiting for one of tube's POE numbers

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high hopes

stable ermine Jun 5, 2021, 6:05 PM

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simple sentinel My Slaesh stick might hit the second hand market soon as I am waiting for one of...

tube's POE? what is that?

simple sentinel Jun 5, 2021, 6:06 PM

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stable ermine tube's POE? what is that?

https://www.tubeszb.com/product/cc2652_poe_coordinator/15?cp=true&sa=false&sbp=false&q=false&category_id=2 this bad boy

muted nest Jun 5, 2021, 6:07 PM

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simple sentinel https://www.tubeszb.com/product/cc2652_poe_coordinator/15?cp=true&sa=false&sbp=f...

how long has it been out of stock?

simple sentinel Jun 5, 2021, 6:08 PM

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He was saying that the chip drought means he won't be releasing much more for a while :/

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tube is a regular in this channel, so he usually let's us know when he has new wares

muted nest Jun 5, 2021, 6:08 PM

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ok

simple sentinel Jun 5, 2021, 6:08 PM

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twitter is a good place too apparently

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but yeah, times are hard, apparently

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for everyone from PS5 producers to zigbee enthusiasts

stable ermine Jun 5, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Yup. It'll take a little while for supply chains to level back

simple sentinel Jun 5, 2021, 6:11 PM

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too, bad cause I love my gadgets 😮

stable ermine Jun 5, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Is anyone familiar with the Enbrighten Zigbee Smart Light Outlet Receptacle? Looking at using one to serve as a router to replace a plug-in one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0842BDN9R/ Do you know any other similar zigbee receptacle?

digital relic Jun 5, 2021, 7:28 PM

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anyone use the v2 Hue dimmer switch to reset bulbs? was it successful?

quick terrace Jun 5, 2021, 7:35 PM

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I'm cobbling together my first ZHA stack and getting unexpected results. I have sourced a Hama 00176592 radiator thermostat via the Blackadder list: https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Hama_00176592.html which promises battery, thermostat and temperature. It is linked to ZHA via a flashed Sonoff bridge and (eventually) showed as the correct Zigbee ID. So far, so good - I think the communication is working.

However, the device only shows basic Device/Zigbee info and what looks like generic ZHA options (reconfigure device, zigbee device signature, manage clusters, view in visualisation, remove device). Could anyone help me get to the heating specific stuff please?

mellow valve Jun 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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The integration I'm using for my ConBee II is called "Zigbee Home Automation". Isn't that ZHA? I've been having some errors and some experts in another channel are saying they are coming from deCONZ and I would be better off moving over to ZHA. But... am I not already?

formal pasture Jun 5, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Hi! I have a zigbee device that died and still present in the zigbee (zha) integration. Any way to delete it? It doesn't have any information listed in the device, so I don't even have an IEEE address to use zha.remove with. Thanks!

molten linden Jun 5, 2021, 10:11 PM

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muted nest ok

Module manufacturer is not very clear “this month or next month” 🤷🏼‍♂️ so hopefully by mid/late July I guess

formal pasture Jun 5, 2021, 11:35 PM

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Separate issue from above: I have 3 historically-working zigbee devices that simply appear dead to the coordinator. They are three different types of devices. One is bound to a switch and still turns on and off with that switch. Two are identical to other devices in the same room. I checked on the topology map and all three are very well connected. I've power cycled my home assistant as well as (separately) the circuits for those devices. For the two that have buttons, they turn on/off as expected. In other words, they all respond to each other and to physical inputs like normal, but the coordinator doesn't see any of it.

Any ideas? Thanks!

formal pasture Jun 6, 2021, 2:48 AM

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I've been doing a cleanup of old/disabled/etc. devices and it appears that there are actually 5 zigbee devices "offline," all different types, all behaving identically, and all of which went offline at roughly the same time.

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I turned on zigbee logging and at least one of the nodes shows up with this message periodically: 2021-06-05 19:37:10 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] Received incomingManyToOneRouteRequestHandler frame with [0x002b, aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff:gg:hh, 2] where that's the ieee id of the device.

gentle flint Jun 6, 2021, 3:41 AM

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quick terrace I'm cobbling together my first ZHA stack and getting unexpected results. I have ...

Must be a tuya rebrand. May need to open request to zha-device-handlers to have it added, but must identity correct quirk. Apparently there multiple devices with excat same model and manufacturer but having different controls

livid abyss Jun 6, 2021, 6:24 AM

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I switched to z2m with the slaesh stick this week, and all has been fine for a day or two, but now my sonoff temp and door sensors start disconnecting from the network. Everything is within 10 m from the coordinator, I have several Ikea plugs as routers. Any way to find out what's going on? How do I get the sensors to reconnect? Reset does not seem to work.

graceful canopy Jun 6, 2021, 7:38 AM

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My ikea remote is turning on/off my xiaomi power plug and there is no automation in Home assistant (using zigbee2mqtt)

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This behavior is happening without me stipulating it.

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Why?

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Seems like it happened in the past: https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/2772

graceful canopy Jun 6, 2021, 7:59 AM

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Ok I figured it out it was all bound to the default group

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So I created a new bind group and now it does not control the power outlet

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neat feature, but silly that everything is added to a default bind group

quick terrace Jun 6, 2021, 8:41 AM

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gentle flint Must be a tuya rebrand. May need to open request to zha-device-handlers to have ...

Cheers for that. You're saying that the device does not follow the Tuya standard and needs some tweaks to communicate with HA? I'll put in the request on Github and see what comes out. The Hama is only a PoC to get to grips with ZHA since I'm fairly new to HA. I might switch to a different model/make if the Hama is a dead end.

graceful notch Jun 6, 2021, 9:56 AM

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is a higher linkquality better or worse? as my sensors that are nearby the stick are in the 100 range and when I move one of them outside, it goes in the 200 range (and i don't see anything failing)

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 9:57 AM

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Higher is better

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LQI is a measure of many things, depending on the device, and is often just a vague indicator

oblique root Jun 6, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Hi everyone, just a quick question. I have about 20 xiaomi window/door sendors spread over 3 floors. Some of them keep failing. It is only those farthest away from my conbee stick. If I understand correctly, using a powered zigbee device like a powerplug, should increasr the range, as zigbee is some kind of mesh network. Does any zigbee powerplug work? Or should I get a xiaomi one to be more compatible with the sensors? Thanks

faint vine Jun 6, 2021, 10:04 AM

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oblique root Hi everyone, just a quick question. I have about 20 xiaomi window/door sendors s...

I bought these ones which are working as repeaters for my Xiaomi window/door sensors, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ZigBee-Smart-Plug-16A-UK-Socket-Tuya-Smart-Life-APP-Work-With-Alexa-Google-Home-Assistant/1005002427778624.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.683d4c4d0ofu4z

So the answer to your question is yes in theory.

That said I've got a problem with those, they seem to be turning themselves off within a few seconds of me turning them on, so anyone that knows about what could be causing that would be appreciated

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 10:05 AM

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oblique root Hi everyone, just a quick question. I have about 20 xiaomi window/door sendors s...

See the pinned messages - not all routers will work

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I've had no issues with Ikea, Gledopto, Innr, Salus, or DIY ones

oblique root Jun 6, 2021, 10:06 AM

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sour shadow I've had no issues with Ikea, Gledopto, Innr, Salus, or DIY ones

Thanks! I will look into those.

oblique root Jun 6, 2021, 10:06 AM

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faint vine I bought these ones which are working as repeaters for my Xiaomi window/door sen...

I plan to only use them as repeaters. If they turn off, do they also stop the “repeater” function?

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 10:07 AM

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If you turn the power off to them, yes

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Not if you use the button on them/Zigbee commands to turn them off though

faint vine Jun 6, 2021, 10:07 AM

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oblique root I plan to only use them as repeaters. If they turn off, do they also stop the “r...

I think so, the one that is acting as a repeater is on my dishwasher which is running atm, but I'll test it properly for you once the cycle is finished

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 10:08 AM

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As long as a Zigbee router has power it will continue to route traffic

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Otherwise the mesh would spend more time broken than working...

oblique root Jun 6, 2021, 10:10 AM

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faint vine I think so, the one that is acting as a repeater is on my dishwasher which is ru...

Thanks!

oblique root Jun 6, 2021, 10:10 AM

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sour shadow Otherwise the mesh would spend more time broken than working...

That’s true… thanks!

obsidian sandalBOT Jun 6, 2021, 10:10 AM

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@oblique root When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

faint vine Jun 6, 2021, 10:12 AM

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Not sure how to debug them turning themselves off on their own though. I've disabled all automations, I turn it on, it stays on for a few seconds, then just turns itself off again.

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 10:12 AM

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Does the Logbook show them turning off, or HA doing something and then them turning off

faint vine Jun 6, 2021, 10:13 AM

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Both, intermittently it seems, sometimes it says "Turned off by Alfie" and other times it just says "Turned off"

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 10:13 AM

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The first says that Alfie did that (probably using the UI)

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The second says that HA detected it turning off

faint vine Jun 6, 2021, 10:14 AM

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I wonder if it could be a signal thing, like the plug automatically turns off if its out of range? It is quite far from the USB receiver.

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 10:15 AM

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Check the link quality

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That'd be a pretty bad bit of design though 😄

faint vine Jun 6, 2021, 10:19 AM

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I'm guessing that's the number on the visualisation? reports 71/23, and has a green line, which I assume means it's ok

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I brought it closer to the USB stick to test and it stayed on, then I put it back where it was originally and it still stays on, so either signal or it's drunk 😂

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Yeah, that's fine

faint vine Jun 6, 2021, 10:23 AM

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weirdly, it looks like the fault started at 6:08:37am this morning, when everyone was asleep, it turned itself off (home assistant says "Turned off", no username.) Meanwhile another one entered the same broken state at 8:49:28am. I don't have any automations on these plugs apart from monitoring the load and sending notifications, wonder if they are faulty

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 10:23 AM

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So, something external to HA turned it off

faint vine Jun 6, 2021, 10:23 AM

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which is fun, because I own no other smart hubs, and the only thing that could turn it off apart from home assistant would be the physical switch on the plug

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 10:25 AM

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update : a driver package seems required when using the zigbee stick in a synology

faint vine Jun 6, 2021, 10:28 AM

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I have a fun experiment idea, I have one more that is brand new in box, not paired to anything. I'm going to get it out, plug it in, hit the button on the side to turn it on, and see if it turns itself off. If it does I know they are defective and will have to return

oblique root Jun 6, 2021, 10:45 AM

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Maybe a dumb idea, could it be related to mqtt? Maybe they share topics with other devices? Is that even possible?

faint vine Jun 6, 2021, 11:01 AM

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next time it happens, I'll try turning the computer off and see if it still turns itself off when I physically press the switch too, that'll answer that question, good suggestion 🙂

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 12:50 PM

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with mqtt2zigbee i can easily make a backup of my devices , they're all listened in the config file, so when i move the docker container to a different system i don't have to connect all my devices again ?

livid abyss Jun 6, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Nobody has an idea how I can get a sensor to reconnect to the network if resetting it does not work?

graceful notch Jun 6, 2021, 1:18 PM

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if anyone is interested in putting mqtt messages in a database instance (python & docker based), I'm currently working on a tiny project and looking for feedback, testing..

solid inlet Jun 6, 2021, 2:02 PM

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graceful notch if anyone is interested in putting mqtt messages in a database instance (python ...

Why? What besides perhaps history would be the point? Not using mqtt yet, but will soon, so just curious 🙂

graceful notch Jun 6, 2021, 2:07 PM

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history and statistics if you want @solid inlet

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you could use the data to build a grafana dashboard

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but for this moment I only just started capturing the timestamp, topic, clientid and the complete payload msg

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haven't done anything else with it yet 🙂

hardy crane Jun 6, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Anyone running deCONZ noticed lights becoming unavailable for some amount of time (~30mins) on 2021.6.0. Lights that have had 100% uptime suddenly drop out

solid inlet Jun 6, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Thanks, I will keep this in mind 🙂

graceful notch Jun 6, 2021, 2:41 PM

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no problem, i have made a git repo that's public, but the more feedback i have, the better it can become

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Hello everyone, i seem to have a very bad signal between the ZZH stick and the Xiaomi components , is this normal

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distance between the stick and the first xiaomi component is 2.5 meters, link quality is 65 ?

dry fossil Jun 6, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Ignore the link quality. Does it work?

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 4:08 PM

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yes it works

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but my devices 4 meters away from it don't have a connection anymore

dry fossil Jun 6, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Those two things aren't related.

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Re-pair the things that don't work. Stop worrying about LQI numbers if things work.

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 4:14 PM

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in the other room i don't have signal anymore between the stick and the Xiaomi door sensor

dry fossil Jun 6, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Re-pair the things that don't work

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 4:15 PM

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ok

wide saffron Jun 6, 2021, 4:44 PM

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digital relic anyone use the v2 Hue dimmer switch to reset bulbs? was it successful?

Did you figure this out? So far I’m not having any luck either

graceful notch Jun 6, 2021, 4:45 PM

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it worked fine for me

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just need to be nearby the bulb like within 1m range

digital relic Jun 6, 2021, 4:48 PM

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wide saffron Did you figure this out? So far I’m not having any luck either

I actually found the v1 at my Home depot, still for sale. They had three. I haven't tested it yet, but it is definitely the v1, because it has the words 'ON, OFF' on it.

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I'd check the HD website, and even look at your nearby towns to see if one is still in stock.

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 5:01 PM

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mono you were right , i had to walk closer to the zzh stick , paired them again , and when i walk back i have link quality of 18 but it seems to work

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pairing them in the other room doesn't seem to work

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 5:20 PM

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people a question : i'm looking for a nice tiny device that can act as a signal repeater , a light switch or something like that , is there someone that has experience with a certain device

hardy crane Jun 6, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Ideally you want to be pairing them at the place they are going to be put

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plugs, lights, mains switches take your pick

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 5:37 PM

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i think i'm gonna order a cheap plug and use that as a repeater

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yes but i can't pair them here in this room , link quality is 7 but the xiaomi component works great , even with this bad signal (if the signal indicator is correct)

dry fossil Jun 6, 2021, 5:46 PM

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hardy crane Ideally you want to be pairing them at the place they are going to be put

Exception being if you only have the coordinator and no routers, which I think is true for Daniel.

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The 'pair in situ' rule is so it picks up the best router, not just the one you were nearest when you paired.

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 5:46 PM

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ah!

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and what if i add a router in the near future , would it automatically use the new device as a signal repeaters

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true Mono : i don't have any zigbee routers (yet)

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 6:33 PM

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is there anyone who has a link of a good shop that sells a great working zigbee plug (so that i can use it as a router)

dry fossil Jun 6, 2021, 6:44 PM

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frail shell and what if i add a router in the near future , would it automatically use the n...

It would use what it thinks is the 'best' one (usually the closest/strongest from where it is).

dry fossil Jun 6, 2021, 6:44 PM

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frail shell is there anyone who has a link of a good shop that sells a great working zigbee ...

You'll have to say where you are, since plugs differ in many countries.

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 6:46 PM

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the netherlands

golden vessel Jun 6, 2021, 6:46 PM

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Hey. In ZHA, is there any way to trigger a clustter attr get in an automation? I would like to update the active_power more frequently than the default 30s for a specific device.

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 6:54 PM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/ZNCZ04LM.html that could maybe act as a stable router

hardy crane Jun 6, 2021, 6:58 PM

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I believe I've seen the BlitzWolf BW-SHP13 on sale on Banggood

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 7:00 PM

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50% cheaper then the xiaomi

hardy crane Jun 6, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Maybe I should get a few myself

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Im using a conbee II key, and today I had a powercut (HA is on a UPS so stayed up). But all my Hue bulbs came back at full brightness, and the plugs all reverted to ON. Hue devices have a feature to remember their previous state I think, but apparently it didnt work for me today. Anyone found a solution to this?

obsidian sandalBOT Jun 6, 2021, 7:06 PM

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The topic of this channel is:

Zigbee :bee: - please remember to mention whether you're using zha (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha), deCONZ (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/deconz), zigbee2mqtt (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io), or even something else.

Looking for devices? See https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ and https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_devices.html.

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 7:07 PM

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As mentioned, the integration you use matters

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The stick is not that important (for this anyway)

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:07 PM

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ok im confused. I asked in #integrations-archived and you suggested I use #zigbee-archived?

frail shell Jun 6, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Hey Tinkerer : small update , i managed to get the stick working on a synology too , i had to install a driver package

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 7:09 PM

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tall nacelle ok im confused. I asked in <#672220541343760384> and you suggested I use <#55184...

Did you read the channel topic?

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Did you read the bot message?

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Please read them...

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:10 PM

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I did, but I assumed mentioning Conbee II implied I was using DeConz integration. My bad

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 7:10 PM

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Well, no, because you can use that stick with all three options

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:10 PM

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ok, I didnt know, sorry

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 7:14 PM

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If nobody here knows, the people on the deCONZ Discord should know

obsidian sandalBOT Jun 6, 2021, 7:14 PM

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deCONZ by dresden elektronik is a software that communicates with ConBee/RaspBee Zigbee gateways and exposes Zigbee devices that are connected to the gateway. Our #zigbee-archived channel is a good place to ask about using it with Home Assistant, but they also have their own Discord server.

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:16 PM

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ok thanks, Im fitting an extractor fan this week so will involved turning off lighting circuit. Good time to do some testing and see if it happens again

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 7:16 PM

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It should, it's a safety feature, so that if the power goes out when it's dark you have lights when the power comes back on

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Why it wouldn't be return to the previous power state by default I don't know... probably some lawyer somewhere decided this was easier

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:17 PM

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But like you say, Hue added the return to previous state feature

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So not entirely sure which part of the puzzle is stoping that from kicking in

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 7:18 PM

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The feature has to be enabled I believe

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:20 PM

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ok ill dig further, thx for the help

graceful notch Jun 6, 2021, 7:25 PM

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@tall nacelle if you use zigbee2mqtt

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  cache_state: true
  cache_state_persistent: true
  cache_state_send_on_startup: true```

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this should do it

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haven't tested it yet

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:26 PM

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thx dude. I dont currently, but maybe its time to switch over

graceful notch Jun 6, 2021, 7:26 PM

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what do you use atm ?

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Im not entirely sure 😄 I just use the Deconz integration?

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no mqtt

graceful notch Jun 6, 2021, 7:27 PM

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ah I prefer the mqtt way, don't ask me why 🙂

sour shadow Jun 6, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Z2M > ZHA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deCONZ
(IMO)

austere patio Jun 6, 2021, 7:28 PM

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tall nacelle Im using a conbee II key, and today I had a powercut (HA is on a UPS so stayed u...

deCONZ should give you access to the clusters so if you go to the OnOff and LevelControl clusters on your devices, they should have start-up attributes you can set. Assuming your bulbs and switches are Zigbee 3.0.

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:29 PM

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I struggled to find a reason to increase complexity by adding mqtt in the past. This is a compelling reason though 🙂

graceful notch Jun 6, 2021, 7:40 PM

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oh also something you need to do

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  "hue_power_on_behavior": "recover"
}```

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 7:53 PM

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thanks

graceful notch Jun 6, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Just tested and it works with those settings

tall nacelle Jun 6, 2021, 8:03 PM

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austere patio deCONZ should give you access to the clusters so if you go to the OnOff and Leve...

didnt see your reply earlier, until now. Could you give me a bit more info on where I access this plz? Im using DeConz integration, but my main access route to it is via Phoscon app. I can also use the VNC tool into deconz, but Im not seeing any cluster stuff there either

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actually Ive now found a 'Cluster' tab in VNC, but no matter what node I select it just shows 'Please select a cluster to get further info'

modern kite Jun 6, 2021, 8:56 PM

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Hey all. I have a zzh! with zha integration. Any tips for pairing a IKEA E1743 dimmer switch? It pairs, but doesn’t throw any zha_events like the 5 button remote.

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Nevermind. I managed to pair properly by trying to keep it alive by pressing buttons throughout until successfully

austere patio Jun 6, 2021, 9:12 PM

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tall nacelle actually Ive now found a 'Cluster' tab in VNC, but no matter what node I select ...

Never used deCONZ but from what I've seen of its UI, I think you have to select a device, find the endpoint with either an on/off or level control cluster, then change that attribute

rich mirage Jun 7, 2021, 12:56 AM

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so I'm back with in need of help, i have some sonoff devices that keep going unavailable/unknown. This time I do have an LQI and RSSI number, instead of the previous unknow. all my devices have LQI 255, one of the diveces that drop last shown LQI of 243

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This time I have LQI and RSSI numbers with the husbsz-1 compared to using a CR2351

mellow geode Jun 7, 2021, 1:01 AM

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LQI of 255 probably means that it has no idea of what the link quality actually is

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and RSSI isn’t exposed on Texas Instrument chips

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Which devices keep going unavailable?

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And which routers are you using?

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Also, did u have the issue on your TI stick previously?

mellow valve Jun 7, 2021, 3:13 AM

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When I first got a ConBee II, I followed the instructions and loaded ZHA to manage it. I've been wanting to test out deConz instead, but when I try to install it via the UI it asks for a "Host" and shows a suggested port of 80. I cannot find any documentation on what host it would want. the word "host" doesn't even show up in https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/deconz/. ANy pointers on moving forward?

mellow valve Jun 7, 2021, 3:16 AM

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mellow valve When I first got a ConBee II, I followed the instructions and loaded ZHA to mana...

Oh i think I see. There's a separate add on that probably configured the integration

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Is there any way to figure out which Zigbee device caused this err?

`Logger: zigpy_deconz.uart
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zigpy_deconz/uart.py:94
First occurred: June 5, 2021, 12:13:44 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: June 5, 2021, 12:13:44 PM

Unexpected error handling the frame: 'NoneType' object is not iterable
`
And, is it weird that I'm not using deConz, but rather ZHA, and I get error messages referring to "zigpy_deconz"?

mellow geode Jun 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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Since deCONZ here refers to the protocol of the Conbee stick

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It’s basically the name of the library (that lets ZHA communicate with Conbee sticks)

thick plover Jun 7, 2021, 11:15 AM

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https://www.legrand.com.au/path-file/449

Interesting new product available here (Australia). I wonder if they’re z2m friendly

alpine hill Jun 7, 2021, 11:42 AM

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Hey there, is it possible to configure "duration" for a motion sensor connected to Deconz? I mean the duration the sensor triggers. Not the parameter in automations

sour shadow Jun 7, 2021, 11:43 AM

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What sensor?

alpine hill Jun 7, 2021, 11:43 AM

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Aqara motion sensor

sour shadow Jun 7, 2021, 11:44 AM

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That sensor has an internal 60 second timeout, if you set the integration lower than that then you can expect the occupancy state to continually go on and off

alpine hill Jun 7, 2021, 11:46 AM

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No. At the moment its integrated via homebridge (but i want to go with HA in futuere). Default is 2 Minutes and i can set it down to 20 sec (which works nice). Also 1 minute would be better than default. It is possible to set it via Homekit and ioBroker as far as i know.

sour shadow Jun 7, 2021, 11:46 AM

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Google found me https://github.com/dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin/issues/3640 which looks to have the UI settings you're looking for

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Just keep in mind that for the rest of that minute, the motion sensor is blind to any further movement

solid inlet Jun 7, 2021, 11:48 AM

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For what reason is there such timeout enforced by the vendors?

violet dagger Jun 7, 2021, 11:48 AM

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battery saving

solid inlet Jun 7, 2021, 11:48 AM

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aha, ok

alpine hill Jun 7, 2021, 11:48 AM

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That's another problem. I can confirm that the sensor is not blind after that time. 20 seconds work. They are set to this at the moment and also work in HA. I just need the possibility to set this (for newly learned sensors)

sour shadow Jun 7, 2021, 11:48 AM

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So see the issue I linked for the UI setting shrug

alpine hill Jun 7, 2021, 11:50 AM

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That is not the problem?

violet dagger Jun 7, 2021, 11:51 AM

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you need to do a hardware modification to make the aqara motion sensor more responsive

sour shadow Jun 7, 2021, 11:52 AM

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I'm not sure what the problem is... you say you've found the UI setting, you say the sensors work, so ... what are you after?

alpine hill Jun 7, 2021, 11:55 AM

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No i dont need any hardware modifiation i just want to change a setting
It is possible to change the value within Deconz (GUI), but i am running headles (in Phoscon you can't change this). In the past i changed it via Homekit (Homebridge Plugin changes the value within Deconz).
Also ioBroker can change the value in Deconz. HA seems to be the only where it is not integrated.
All my existing sensors are changed to 20 seconds.
When i go with HA as my only software i need to change this settings through the HA GUI because newly added sensors have 2 minutes default.

sour shadow Jun 7, 2021, 11:56 AM

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Ah, right, so with HA the assumption is that you have the deCONZ UI

alpine hill Jun 7, 2021, 12:01 PM

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Even with that it should be possible to manage these settings centralised. Isn't it the reasion for that kind of software? Other solution also integrate these settings

sour shadow Jun 7, 2021, 12:04 PM

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Well, there's nothing stopping somebody doing that - but nobody has decided to invest the time and effort into it

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Given that HA has a native Zigbee integration, I'd not expect it's not high on the list of things any core developer wants to do

dark tusk Jun 7, 2021, 12:30 PM

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@molten linden I just want to say thanks for making great hardware. My first few weeks with my tube zigbee coordinator has been great. I purchased some of the TRADFRI dimmable bulbs and switch combos from IKEA and it has been a great experience.

glad plume Jun 7, 2021, 12:37 PM

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Zigbee2MQTT is dropping this error and cannot be opened.

21-06-07 12:36:11 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.api.ingress] Ingress error: Cannot connect to host 172.30.33.9:8099 ssl:default [Connect call failed ('172.30.33.9', 8099)]

Where should I change this SSL:Default setting? Thank you.

wide quiver Jun 7, 2021, 12:40 PM

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Hi, I'm facing issues with my Hue integration since I updated to 2021.6. Is this the right place to ask for help? Thanks.

forest cobalt Jun 7, 2021, 12:42 PM

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That would be #integrations-archived

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Unless you have your Hue devices directly connected to a Zigbee coordinator using ZHA/Z2M/deCONZ.

glad plume Jun 7, 2021, 12:47 PM

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glad plume Zigbee2MQTT is dropping this error and cannot be opened. ``` 21-06-07 12:36:11 E...

This is since 2021.06.2 update only. It was working for months before. Any Idea?

alpine hill Jun 7, 2021, 1:03 PM

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sour shadow Well, there's nothing stopping somebody doing that - but nobody has decided to i...

there is deconz.configure service where i can do exactly that

glad plume Jun 7, 2021, 1:27 PM

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glad plume This is since 2021.06.2 update only. It was working for months before. Any Idea?

502: Bad Gateway

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That made the Zigbee2mqtt work:

  new_api: true```

sour shadow Jun 7, 2021, 2:00 PM

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new_api went away some time ago, are you still on an ancient version?

exotic crater Jun 7, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Hey guys I am trying to use my 5th aquara switch for an automation but this one only shows the single click option. It is exactly the same build as the other three and for the other ones I get "single click double click and long press" in the dropdown. any guesses? (integreated via Zigbee2mqtt modell number is WXKG11LM for all of them)

graceful notch Jun 7, 2021, 3:41 PM

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delete and re-pair ?

exotic crater Jun 7, 2021, 3:46 PM

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graceful notch delete and re-pair ?

Hm I will try that but I still wonder why that happend. Single click works fine though

graceful notch Jun 7, 2021, 3:46 PM

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I have only paired 1 , so I wouldn't know why

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maybe it's already broken 😄

rich mirage Jun 7, 2021, 3:56 PM

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mellow geode Also, did u have the issue on your TI stick previously?

the devices that keep going unavailable are sonoff temp sensor and door sensors
I don't have any routers, just the coordinator, the farthest sensor from the coordinator is around 8m or 20ft

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I also had the same issues with the cr2351. in fact it was worst. and I used to get LQI of 40 to 150

exotic crater Jun 7, 2021, 4:11 PM

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graceful notch I have only paired 1 , so I wouldn't know why

I have tryed a nother one and that one only shows battery voltage and linkquality... and for the other one repairing did nothing

graceful notch Jun 7, 2021, 4:12 PM

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you use zigbee2mqtt, deconz, .. ?

exotic crater Jun 7, 2021, 4:13 PM

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graceful notch you use zigbee2mqtt, deconz, .. ?

Zigbee2mqtt and for my other buttons it worked great. they do exactly as i wanted

graceful notch Jun 7, 2021, 4:15 PM

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how many devices do you already have and does the log from zigbee2mqtt show something ?

exotic crater Jun 7, 2021, 4:16 PM

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graceful notch how many devices do you already have and does the log from zigbee2mqtt show some...

the number of devices should not be the problem I am currently runing 4 repeaters and i will have a look at zigbee2mqtt in a sec it restarts atm

exotic crater Jun 7, 2021, 4:18 PM

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graceful notch how many devices do you already have and does the log from zigbee2mqtt show some...

The log is clean of errors. I suspect that they changed something in an update... I will check that later i guess

exotic crater Jun 7, 2021, 4:19 PM

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graceful notch how many devices do you already have and does the log from zigbee2mqtt show some...

c0 Never minde.... the one only stating battery etc. just got all the actions whilest I was clicking it against boredom... I realy dont know why but hey...

graceful notch Jun 7, 2021, 4:21 PM

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if it's working, that's what counts 😄

mellow geode Jun 7, 2021, 4:22 PM

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rich mirage I also had the same issues with the cr2351. in fact it was worst. and I used to ...

Although the CC2530/CC2531 are bad, all Texas Instruments chips calculate LQI lower than EZSP-based chips. (I wouldn't even look at LQI -- doesn't correlate to if my devices actually work well).
Also, try updating the firmware on your HUSBZB: https://github.com/walthowd/husbzb-firmware
Sonoff sensors are also known to not work well sometimes.

frail shell Jun 7, 2021, 4:49 PM

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i ordered a BW-SHP13 plug from banggood and will use it as a zigbee repeater

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they're just 10 euro atm

rich mirage Jun 7, 2021, 4:52 PM

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ouchie, I wich I knew about sonoff not working properly. I will try upgrading and see if that help. Just need to figure how to upgrade on win 10 if possible...

frail shell Jun 7, 2021, 4:52 PM

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are you using the zigbee version of a sonoff device?

rich mirage Jun 7, 2021, 4:53 PM

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yes

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sonoff temp sensor and door sensor

frail shell Jun 7, 2021, 4:57 PM

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sorry i don't have experience with that version myself

austere patio Jun 7, 2021, 5:28 PM

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rich mirage ouchie, I wich I knew about sonoff not working properly. I will try upgrading an...

You can run the Python script in the repo directly

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Just install the required Python packages and you can run the main script on Windows

drifting drum Jun 7, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Hi there! New on this discord 🙂

I recently upgraded my HA install (HA OS) from 2021.5.x to 2021.6.2 and my covers stopped responding. I'm controlling them with the zigbee2mqtt addon. They appear in the addon and I can control them from there but the entities in HA don't respond. Other Zigbee2mqtt entities still work, like lights or switches.

I'd be grateful if someone could me find where I should file an issue 🙂
I'm guessing it's not an issue with Z2M directly since the covers work fine there 🤔

I asked in #integrations-archived but someone pointed me to this channel

sour shadow Jun 7, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Make sure you're running the latest version of Z2M too

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1.19.1 I believe

frail shell Jun 7, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Hello everyone , i wonder about the security of a zigbee network

jolly narwhal Jun 7, 2021, 9:49 PM

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If you lock the door no-one will get in

frail shell Jun 7, 2021, 9:49 PM

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it uses a shared key

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lol atx true

jolly narwhal Jun 7, 2021, 9:50 PM

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Sure, but unless a device is paired it cannot talk

frail shell Jun 7, 2021, 9:50 PM

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yes indeed

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and a new device can't be added from a distance

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a malicious device

autumn warren Jun 7, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Are older Zigbee bulbs not supported by ZHA? I have two bulbs that can be found by the Hue app but not by ZHA

dry fossil Jun 7, 2021, 10:02 PM

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The age is almost definitely irrelevant. The model, and whether there's a quirk for it, is what matters.

autumn warren Jun 7, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Model 9290022268

Where would I see if there's a quirk for it?

dry fossil Jun 7, 2021, 10:06 PM

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I'll let a ZHA user answer that. I use Z2M.

forest cobalt Jun 7, 2021, 10:08 PM

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What channel are you using @autumn warren?

dry fossil Jun 7, 2021, 10:08 PM

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#zigbee-archived

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Sorry, couldn't resist 😄

autumn warren Jun 7, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Not sure, tried looking in HA but didn't see anything regarding that

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Nwk: 0x6b06 if that means anything

forest cobalt Jun 7, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Nope. That's not it. If you're using a default ZHA install, you're on channel 11 (you'd know if you changed the channel) 😉

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Ok, so, were the bulbs originally on a Hue hub?

autumn warren Jun 7, 2021, 10:27 PM

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A while ago yeah, but even after adding to Hue app and deleting they don't show in ZHA

forest cobalt Jun 7, 2021, 10:36 PM

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The Hue app or the Hue bridge? The app connects to the bulb using BlueTooth, so it wouldn't wipe the Zigbee settings.

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You'll want to attach them to a Hue hub and then wipe them from there. It might take a couple times as some bulbs are fussy.

autumn warren Jun 7, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Well I have a Bridge, so I'm assuming the app connects the bulb to that

forest cobalt Jun 7, 2021, 10:38 PM

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If the bridge is on and connected, it should, yeah.

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But those BT bulbs are just a pain in the butt.

autumn warren Jun 7, 2021, 10:38 PM

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I've reset it twice, should I try it more?

forest cobalt Jun 7, 2021, 10:38 PM

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I had to run huethief on a few of mine like 3 or 4 times for them to finally pair to Z2M.

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That's about the only advice that I can give, unfortunately. 😦

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You could also try huethief.py and see if that works better: https://github.com/vanviegen/hue-thief

autumn warren Jun 7, 2021, 10:40 PM

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Just looked that up, yeah I'll give it a shot

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Thanks!

forest cobalt Jun 7, 2021, 10:43 PM

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Anytime!

austere patio Jun 7, 2021, 11:26 PM

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frail shell Hello everyone , i wonder about the security of a zigbee network

If you're using Z2M and didn't change the default, you're using a very public shared key

dry fossil Jun 7, 2021, 11:34 PM

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All we need now is his physical location and we can attack his network.

drifting drum Jun 8, 2021, 6:17 AM

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sour shadow Make sure you're running the latest version of Z2M too

Interestingly, as per https://github.com/zigbee2mqtt/hassio-zigbee2mqtt/releases there's indeed v1.19.1-1 while I'm still running 1.18.1-1.
I have the addon set to auto update, I tried forcing a reload of the addons but the supervisor doesn't show me any update :/ I'll try uninstalling it maybe.

drifting drum Jun 8, 2021, 6:23 AM

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drifting drum Interestingly, as per https://github.com/zigbee2mqtt/hassio-zigbee2mqtt/releases...

Ok so I had to remove the addon repository from HA and re-add it in order for HA to find the new version :/

drifting drum Jun 8, 2021, 6:33 AM

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drifting drum Ok so I had to remove the addon repository from HA and re-add it in order for HA...

I followed the instructions on this issue and so far so good, thanks for pointing me to the update! 🙏

sour shadow Jun 8, 2021, 6:41 AM

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drifting drum Interestingly, as per https://github.com/zigbee2mqtt/hassio-zigbee2mqtt/releases...

So, you're still using the deprecated add-on repository 😉

drifting drum Jun 8, 2021, 6:48 AM

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sour shadow So, you're still using the deprecated add-on repository 😉

yeah seems so. I was able to update and now I'm having trouble with some covers reporting an inverted state.

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That's an issue I think I had at the very beginning too but I can't remember how I solved it. I'm trying to use invert_cover in the config but it doesn't seem to affect anything

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anyway, gotta go to work now, I'll check this later. Thanks again!

frail shell Jun 8, 2021, 1:37 PM

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people i wonder if there is a way where i can check my shared key in Zigbee2mqtt

jolly narwhal Jun 8, 2021, 1:39 PM

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check what ?

frail shell Jun 8, 2021, 1:40 PM

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the network key

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zigbee2mqtt seems to crash when i specify one in the config

sour shadow Jun 8, 2021, 1:40 PM

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"Seems to" 🤔

frail shell Jun 8, 2021, 1:41 PM

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yes it crashed

sour shadow Jun 8, 2021, 1:42 PM

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Well, what does the log file tell you?

frail shell Jun 8, 2021, 1:44 PM

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reading the docs , i think i made a mistake in my config file

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the error i get is : error 2021-06-08 13:56:18: Configuration is not consistent with adapter state/backup!

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the container keeps restarting at the moment , and runs fine when i remote the network key under "advanced" in my config file

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i used network_key: GENERATE in my configuration.yaml

sour shadow Jun 8, 2021, 1:59 PM

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You have a CC2531 stick with an old (2019) firmware on it

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There's an issue in the Z2M repo about it

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https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/7664