#zigbee-archived

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mighty river
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I mean that normally if I type "light."I see all the lights now I only see the old names

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Never mind restarted HA, but needed to restart Node-RED

forest cobalt
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Yeah, that's a known caching issue.

modest oar
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Can xiaomi mi temp sensors be asked temperature manually (or via script/automation) or does it report temp by some hard coded time intervals?

sour shadow
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Like most sensors they report on their own schedule

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That's typically a combination of time and change

modest oar
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So does xiaomi aqara temperature and humidity sensor work with xiaomi mi (2) gateway?

sour shadow
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If the gateway supports Zigbee... it should

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Nobody in this channel would touch the gateway though 😄

stark ocean
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As someone with a xiaomi gateway I would go with a USB stick instead if you can. It works fine and you're not as limited

gentle flint
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Check release notes for breaking changes. Check that you have that device in container

gilded zealot
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Hey! One question.
Whats the best USB zigbee coordinator for use with Home Assistant and Zigbee2Mqtt? Currently I have a CC2531 without an external antenna and its range is bad and the zigbee devices drop.

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I have the Texas Instruments CC2531 one

echo yarrow
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I have the ethernet serial one. HA found it real quick.

gilded zealot
# echo yarrow https://www.tubeszb.com/shop/coordinators/2

Is the range good? That`s the biggest problem ATM. All of the zigbee devices are outside. The indoor ones are ESP WIFI ones. How do you connect it? My raspberry is connected with ethernet cable. A switch with poe or an external poe injector?

echo yarrow
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POE to micro usb adapter, it's sitting here on my bench right now, haven't tested range.

delicate lodge
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Hellooo!

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I just got the Conbee II Adapter... and need to know how to add it

wide saffron
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I'm setting up a new network and I'm curious if there are best practices around parent nodes. For example, is it better to have a somewhat weak connection to the main node or a strong connection 2 parent nodes deep? should I put in effort to keep the network as flat as possible?

forest cobalt
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You can't keep it flat. Zigbee is a mesh network and it'll basically decide how to configure itself most of the time. However, in terms of best practices, you'll want a coordinator that is strong enough to hold enough routes to your child routers. So, if you have 5 routers (plugs, bulbs, switched, etc), you'll want a coordinator that can handle at least 10 routes. Most, if not all of them on the market today can do that easily.

wide saffron
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ok

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I was just noticing some nodes that are physically past some of my plugged in children have weaker connections and I was curious if I wanted to try and get them to connect to something closer to them

forest cobalt
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You can always add more routers to help with the weak signals. I use 2 CC2652p2 routers in my mesh (with about 6-7 other routing devices). If you are noticing that devices are dropping off or not responding, then you should worry about signal strength. Basically, ignore LQI as it is a calculation that really doesn't mean all that much.

wide saffron
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ok, great

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they are all working so I'll just ignore it

delicate lodge
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so I just got the Conbee 2...

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how do I get this running?

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should i Install it with the pi running?

echo yarrow
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should be able to hotplug it.

delicate lodge
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now what should i install to get it running?

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deconz?

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nm

pulsar lynx
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I can't get HA to automatically dsicover devices from zigbee2mqtt.

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zigbee2mqtt config has homeassistant: true, and HA config has mqtt: discovery: true

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I can use the device I am testing via automations by publishing the correct topic, but nothing shows up in HA. It has been a couple years since I last used z2mqtt, and previously I had to add each device and sensor automatically but it looks like I don't have to anymore. Any idea why I can't see the aqara button coming up under devices / entities?

ivory hound
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restart your ha, mqtt broker and z2m

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also look in mqtt broker to make sure it actually works

pulsar lynx
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Ok cool will try that. I had restarted HA but not the other two. It def works inside the broker.

mystic palm
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Hi... all my mqtt devices (via zigbee2mqtt) have become unavailable in HA. I have confirmed that messages are being published correctly and HA is receiving them as well but their status is still unavailable. These are not newly confirgured devices either. I've had them for some time now and they were working fine

wise scroll
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Hello my deConz keeps crashing after last update to 2021.5.4
any solutions ?
running as an vm ware template
I had no backup selected any way to downgrade ?

sour shadow
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Does the deCONZ add-on itself crash?

fringe monolith
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Exactly

mighty river
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Hi. Im trying out ZHA today, but for some reason it want connect any of my zigbee devices. I have a mix of Ikea and Philips. but nothing connects. Any1 having experince with this?

calm falcon
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morning guys
i have a group of 3 bulbs zigbee ones that lost contact yesterday they are showing back online today and i can toggle on off from HA they all go to on and off state from HA. But actually on 1 comes on and off the two other doing nothing. I have tried unscrewing and re screwing back in but nothing any ideas how to get them going agin please?

forest cobalt
calm falcon
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3 of them together

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but the 2 failed ones not flashing properly

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you can just see a faint glow also they get picked up and i can re add them but light from them

forest cobalt
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What kind of bulbs? Is it possible that the bulbs themselves went south?

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Also, do they exhibit this behavior if you set the brightness to 255?

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I had this same issue with one of my 3 light fixtures and it turned out that the wiring in the ceiling had gone bad and wasn't supplying enough power to the fixture. I ended up replacing the bulbs TWICE before realizing that I had to replace the wiring.

calm falcon
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linking

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linkind

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the hub is in same room

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the bulbs are 3 months old

forest cobalt
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Ok, those aren't bad bulbs. So, one thing to test is to pull 2 bulbs from somewhere else in the house and put them into the fixture. Or, if you're electrically inclined, test the power coming into the fixture.

forest cobalt
calm falcon
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i have three pendants lamps 1 and 3 gone 2 is ok but if i put number 2 bulb in 1 or 3 it works fine

forest cobalt
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Are all 3 pendants on the same circuit?

calm falcon
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i have put bulbs 1 and 3 in other fitting that work same no flashing

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i have put bulb 2 in same lamp and it started flashing and was picked up by hub instantly

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looks like these bulbs have gone south at same time very weird

calm falcon
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i have tried other bulbs in them they all come on

forest cobalt
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Huh... ok, that rules out a power issue.

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Well, mostly at least. lol

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If you put those bulbs in other fixtures in your place, do they work properly?

calm falcon
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nope

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it actually thinks it is on

remote patio
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is there a way to change the friendly name in the zigbee2mqtt ui? it's grayed out for me

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I wonder i that could happen because I have an autodetected mqtt user

sour shadow
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If you're using the actual Z2M UI, yes

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Just click the (blue) pencil

unknown.png
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If you're still using Z2M Assistant then it's long past time to change

remote patio
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yeah I just figured it out.. updated the mqtt settings as well

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it's come a long way since I lst used it (zigbee2mqtt)

autumn warren
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Does anyone know of 240V power management plugs for US? I want to monitor the status of my washer/dryer and dishwasher but all I can find are 120V plugs

forest cobalt
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I use 120V plugs on my washer and dishwasher without any issues. It's not the voltage that matters in the US per se, but the amperage capacity. However, the only "heavy duty" ones that I've found (and use) are the Zooz ZEN-15 (which are Z-Wave).

austere patio
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Hopefully they have 240V relays inside (though if you don't trigger them it probably won't break)

autumn warren
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I haven't checked mine, but I remember seeing that certain appliances use a different plug. I gotta check mine and come back

austere patio
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Maybe you could use some current sensing clamps? I dunno if there are any Zigbee ones

forest cobalt
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US dryers use a different plug, but I've never found a smart outlet for it. To "fix" that, I had to get my wife a new LG Smarthinq washer and dryer. LOL Oddly, I don't feel like I came out ahead in that deal. 😉

autumn warren
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Yeah the dryer is that weird plug

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Turns out it was a lot easier to check the plugs than I thought hahahah I thought I'd have to move the whole washer and dryer but nope

forest cobalt
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LOL lucky you... mine were shoved into a tiny laundry room outside.

autumn warren
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Oh apparently vibration sensors are a thing

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That's definitely something to look into

forest cobalt
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Yeah, they are, but they can be touchy. I'd look into what @austere patio suggested as well.

rigid spear
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Does anyone have the Aqara Opple 6 buttons?
the button number 2 on mine is not working, I thought I was a defective one, but I think is something related to ZHA. Did you guys have the same experience?

austere patio
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What coordinator are you using?

rigid spear
rigid spear
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EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis
by ZHA

austere patio
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Does the remote have a quirk applied? You can see this in the device page or in its signature

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Not on the coordinator, the remote

rigid spear
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sorry hehe

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Quirk: zhaquirks.xiaomi.aqara.opple_remote.RemoteB686OPCN01V5

austere patio
rigid spear
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what can I do to help fixing that?

austere patio
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Are you using Home Assistant OS?

rigid spear
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Home Assistant Container on Unraid

austere patio
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Hmm, I'm not sure how that behaves. Do you have a /config/ folder or something similar?

rigid spear
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yes yes

austere patio
rigid spear
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will this affect my others zigbee devices ?

austere patio
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No, it just lets you edit quirks without directly modifying the zhaquirks Python package

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Technically yes, but since the custom quirk is identical to the one you have loaded, nothing would change

rigid spear
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and where should I report this for the developers to fix that in HASS?

rigid spear
austere patio
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If the fix works it's a simple PR

rigid spear
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Configuration invalid

Invalid config for [zha]: [custom_quirks_path] is an invalid option for [zha]. Check: zha->zha->custom_quirks_path. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 50).

austere patio
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Are you running a recent release of HA?

rigid spear
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Version core-2021.4.5

austere patio
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It's only in 2021.5.0+

rigid spear
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got it

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I'll update then

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testing here

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one moment

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didn't work

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the button isn't working still

austere patio
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Did the custom quirk get applied?

rigid spear
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Quirk: zhaquirks.xiaomi.aqara.opple_remote.RemoteB686OPCN01V5

austere patio
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Should say Quirk: custom_zha_quirks.opple_remote.RemoteB686OPCN01V5

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Did you restart HA/ZHA after creating the custom quirk?

rigid spear
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multiple times

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let me check my config

austere patio
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ZHA debug logging will tell you if it loaded the custom quirks

rigid spear
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zha: custom_quirks_path: /config/custom_zha_quirks
that goes inside configuration.yaml file , right?

austere patio
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Yeah

rigid spear
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then I created a folder inside my config folder named custom_zha_quirks

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and inside custom_zha_quirks I created a file named init.py

austere patio
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__init__.py, with two underscores on each side?

rigid spear
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yes haha

sour shadow
rigid spear
austere patio
autumn warren
rigid spear
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2021-05-17 13:39:27 DEBUG (MainThread) [zhaquirks] Loading custom quirks from /config/custom_zha_quirks

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Quirk: zhaquirks.xiaomi.aqara.opple_remote.RemoteB686OPCN01V5

austere patio
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Is there an error message or something? You should be seeing Loading custom quirks module opple_remote right below that initial log line

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I just tested custom quirks with a fresh install of HA 2021.5.4 and they work as they should

rigid spear
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2021-05-17 13:39:27 DEBUG (MainThread) [zhaquirks] Loading quirks module zhaquirks.zhongxing.motion
2021-05-17 13:39:27 DEBUG (MainThread) [zhaquirks] Loading custom quirks from /config/custom_zha_quirks
2021-05-17 13:39:27 INFO (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup of domain mobile_app took 0.5 seconds

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no error here

austere patio
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No log though so that module you made isn't being seen

rigid spear
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trying to figure what's wrong here

austere patio
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So your folder structure looks like:

custom_zha_quirks
├── __init__.py
└── opple_remote.py
rigid spear
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opple_remote.py don't have this file

austere patio
rigid spear
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inside init

austere patio
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Ah, that would explain it

rigid spear
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ok

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I will creat the opple_remote

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create *

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one moment

austere patio
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Looks like you can just delete the __init__.py file, I forgot about that Python change. Only need opple_remote.py.

rigid spear
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got it

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just need to transfer the content from init to opple_remote, right ?

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how do you write the markdown here? init.py

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__init__.py

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got it

austere patio
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(Ignore the deleted message about "Update Configuration", it doesn't quite work for quirk reloading)

rigid spear
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Quirk: opple_remote.RemoteB686OPCN01V5

austere patio
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Now it works

rigid spear
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working now

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yes

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thank you very much @austere patio

austere patio
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Does editing that cluster into the list make the second button work?

rigid spear
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so where can I open an issue to fix this? then other people don't need to do that in the future

rigid spear
austere patio
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If you know how to, make a PR with your change

rigid spear
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I know how to make a PR , but don't know exactly what to write

austere patio
rigid spear
austere patio
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Thanks for the custom quirk debugging, I'll write up some documentation for it

rigid spear
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Thank you

delicate lodge
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hi

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I have the Conbee II stick

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how do I add my Philips Hue switch to it?

sour shadow
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First.. configure your chosen Zigbee integration that'll use the stick

delicate lodge
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ZHA?

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I already installed ZHA

sour shadow
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Then you pair the device by putting it into pairing mode, and pairing through the ZHA UI

delicate lodge
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Right...

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as soon as I remove the battery plastic seperator switch

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doesn't it automatically go into pairing mode? It is flashing a red light on and off

sour shadow
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What's the model number?

delicate lodge
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PHK-PK00A11-AP

sour shadow
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Of the Hue switch?

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Google says nope

delicate lodge
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yes

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https://www.amazon.com/Listed-Miady-Short-Extension-Outlet/dp/B07H9MCTGL/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_sspa_dk_rhf_yoy_pt_sub_1_3/135-9615536-4086348?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07H9MCTGL&pd_rd_r=f2010f08-213a-429f-b34e-c77e6a076304&pd_rd_w=73qlW&pd_rd_wg=Zo8I1&pf_rd_p=9b6c7c5b-711f-47e9-8510-2ca3ff59483f&pf_rd_r=WKXB8V25WNRQ1YK898JS&psc=1&refRID=WKXB8V25WNRQ1YK898JS&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzQ01JUVZPMUJSR1lXJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODk1MzczMjJHR0dQMjdFNlJFQyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzIwMTMzMktKNVFaQklMMEJaNiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX3JoZl95b3kmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

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this exact product

sour shadow
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🤔

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Did you look at that link?

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[UL Listed] Miady Short Power Extension Cord Outlet Saver, 16AWG/13A, 3 Prong (10 Pack, Black, 8 Inch)

delicate lodge
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wtf

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lol

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wrong paste

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THAT product

sour shadow
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929002398602 is the model number of that one

delicate lodge
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Those other plugs are for a question i was going to ask another message board about whether it is safe to use something like that to more effectively use power strips because of cumbersome wall-warts

sour shadow
delicate lodge
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oh wait

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I think I found it on the box

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929001173661

serene fractal
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Quick question
Are all xiaomi sensors compatiable with zigbee?
Looking to get a zig-ah-zig-ah stick

So does the stick just get rid of the need for a gateaway hub?

austere patio
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Yes and yes

sour shadow
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The Zigbee integration matters more than the stick

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The stick is little more than a Zigbee radio for the integration to use

delicate lodge
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ZHA is searching for Devices

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and still cant find my hue switch

sour shadow
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Is it in the same room as the coordinator (the USB stick you're using)

delicate lodge
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yes

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its sitting right next to the stick in fact

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was I supposed to restart home assistant after plugging in my conbee ii?

austere patio
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If the ZHA integration loaded after you selected the stick, it works

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Did reset it within 60s of permitting joins on the network?

delicate lodge
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[0x0000:zdo] ZDO request ZDOCmd.Mgmt_Permit_Joining_req: [60, <Bool.false: 0>]
[0x0000:zdo] ZDO request ZDOCmd.Mgmt_Permit_Joining_req: [60, <Bool.false: 0>]

austere patio
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So it works and joins were open for 60s. The dimmer didn't join the network.

delicate lodge
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how do I get the dimmer to join it?

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Do I need to use the philips hue app?

austere patio
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No, you just do the reset procedure and it should start looking for a network to join

delicate lodge
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I did the reset procedure

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Its still not joining

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wtf

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I have two of these too

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and neither are joining

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Do I need the Hue bridge?

sour shadow
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Nope

delicate lodge
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So why isnt it connecting?

sour shadow
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You reset it?

delicate lodge
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yes

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several times already

sour shadow
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No idea then, I know my older generation was a little fussy on the CC2531 coordinator, but paired without issue to my CC2652 coordinator

delicate lodge
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I tried this with the stupid Sengled switches too

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and they wouldn't pair either

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figured they were broken

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I wonder if the Conbee II is broken

austere patio
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Do you have it plugged into a non-USB 3.0 port and on an extension cable?

real fable
delicate lodge
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No

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It is plugged direclty into the pi

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Raspberry Pi 3b

tropic depot
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I have to look at what z2m is doing there

tropic depot
delicate lodge
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Why does it need an extension?

sour shadow
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To remove it from interference

delicate lodge
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its sitting right next to the stick

real fable
delicate lodge
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WOW!!\

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finally found it!

austere patio
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The Conbee itself gets wacky when it experiences RF interference, when plugged in without a USB extension cable

delicate lodge
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I had to move the raspberry pi

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My raspberry pi 3b is in a "Networking closet"

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which is basically a huge rats nest of wires unfortunately 😦

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RWL020

sour shadow
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So, interference rich environment partyParrot_2partyParrot_2partyParrot_2partyParrot_2partyParrot_2partyParrot_2

delicate lodge
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So it says Initialization complete... device is ready to use

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well now that I know the Conbee II and Switch are working as expected... I can probably go buy a USB Extension cable

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how do I link the switch... to some bulbs?

sour shadow
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You mean Bind or just write automations

delicate lodge
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uhhh

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I have some cheapo Costco Bulbs that I integrated into HA, I just want to be able to have my switch... be able to turn on, turn off, dim... and also change colors

sour shadow
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For just on/off/dim then binding might work

molten linden
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binding with the RWL020 requires some hoops as I believe it can only be bound by one thing, and coordinator binds with join. so automations is easiest

delicate lodge
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Trigger Type... State

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sensor.philips_rwl020_... etc...

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Attribute?

molten linden
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device

sour shadow
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But no, no attributes

molten linden
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but yea ^

sour shadow
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Do read the automation docs please

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I think ZHA uses events for many things

delicate lodge
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Thanks a bunch 🙂

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You guys have been very helpful!

molten linden
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there may be a blueprint for it too. feel like that was one of the first things to get one.

delicate lodge
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I should have bought all Zigbee lights

forest cobalt
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With #automations-archived, you really don't need ALL Zigbee lights. You can mix and match as you see fit.

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BUT... with that said, when you buy new devices, ALWAYS check the #integrations-archived channel/pages to make sure that what you are buying is a good fit in HA.

molten linden
forest cobalt
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Better not be the "last" thing you post here. LOL

molten linden
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(on this subject as it's offtopic)

forest cobalt
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hahaha gotcha 😉 (just giving you crap)

molten linden
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now if my day job could get out of my way I could finish the update email and launch these PoE coordinators sitting on my shelf.

forest cobalt
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That's my daily mantra.

mighty river
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My old coordinator still shows up as a device in ZHA, and there's no option to delete it. Only way to do it is to go through core.device_registry?

austere patio
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You can't delete the device entry? I think this was fixed in one of the recent HA releases.

mighty river
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Well I just updated to latest

austere patio
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Hmm

mighty river
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"regular" clients all do have a remove option, but not my ezsp thingy

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The thing has children, still. But technically shouldn't have connection to zha anymore as I just changed the coordinator.

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To give some context, I updated HA to latest, deleted the zha integration, then re-added it with my new coordinator. Also deleted zha.storage. But got the message saying "existing devices found", which was kinda unexpected.

austere patio
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They probably got pulled in from zigbee.db

mighty river
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Ah ok, so I best remove that as well then, for a clean slate.

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Alright, doing that same procedure and deleting zigbee.db gives me a blank setup 👍 thanks

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Now to rebuild my network with my shiny new Tube gear, hoping it'll be less of a ghetto experience than the Sonoff zb bridge. But I have no doubts, tubes are better than transistors anyway.

quick swallow
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can anyone explain to me please what zigbee actually is?

sour shadow
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Google can tell you about it in detail

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It's a radio standard for device communication - low bandwidth and low power

mighty river
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The technology defined by the Zigbee specification is intended to be simpler and less expensive than other wireless personal area networks (WPANs), such as Bluetooth or more general wireless networking such as Wi-Fi. well that didn't really work out 😆

sour shadow
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Well, it worked out pretty well IMO

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Not many WiFi door sensors that are small and have a multi-year battery life 😛

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And Bluetooth meshes are ... interesting

violet dagger
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not a single one 😄

mighty river
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Well, for me, consistently paying about double than comparable wifi devices (granted, wired), and on my second gateway that could have bought me 3 wifi routers, it's been different.

sour shadow
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Clearly some pretty crappy WiFi routers if they're £30 and under 😛

mighty river
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Granted, my own wifi routers are overcomplicated (but not that expensive), but 30 bucks can buy a perfectly adequate 2.4GHz AP, and my opinion is that most people should have more than one anyway, instead of buying a 200 buck AP with 12 million gigamathingies and putting it in a cupboard against a concrete wall.

violet dagger
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AP and router are two different things

mighty river
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Sure, though hardly anyone actually needs a router anyway, nowadays. As mostly the ISP will supply it

sour shadow
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adequate 2.4GHz AP
Is also a statement that belongs in the distant past

mighty river
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@sour shadow not with IoT

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There's barely any 5GHz IoT

sour shadow
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Pffft, do Zigbee right and you don't have to worry about it

mighty river
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I had to reinstate 2.4GHz just for IoT and believe me, I cried.

violet dagger
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ISP routers... in 2021?!?

mighty river
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@violet dagger heh different countries, maybe.. but it's hardly possible here to have your own router.

violet dagger
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doubtful but not worth debating

mighty river
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It's a simple fact. Unless I hack, my ISP isn't giving me the credentials to access their network.

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Mine is just a gw address and I do all other stuff like dhcp, wifi, etc. with outboard gear, but there's no feasible way to take that last gw part out of the equation.

mellow geode
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When ZHA marks a bulb as unavailable, it doesn't poll it anymore (since updates ~ a year ago -- I think)?

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I sometimes have the issue that my Zigbee Light Link Hue bulbs (the ones without Bluetooth thus also without attribute reports) sometimes become unavailable.

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Restarting Home Assistant mostly always seems to fix this -- as well as re-plugging the radio.

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However, sometimes the lights also come back on their own.

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Most of the time though, I have to manually poll an attribute which then immediately marks the bulb as "available" again. (Able to control it normally through the Home Assistant UI)

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Since these Hue bulbs do not send attribute reports and ZHA does not seem to poll the lights while marked "unavailable", how could these bulbs even re-appear as available? (Except for manually getting an attribute)

dry fossil
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Set modem to bridge, plug in router, done.

mighty river
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@dry fossil I cannot access their network without the credentials

dry fossil
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🤦‍♂️

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Routers are not modems.

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Some devices perform both functions but you most definitely can use your own router even if your ISP insists you use their modem.

mighty river
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Their modem which is also a router, does not allow me to set it to bridge mode.

analog ember
mighty river
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😭 I can't. I don't get bridge mode. I've disabled everything, but in the end I'm stuck with a LAN address that is the gateway. I can add a router and add another layer of NAT, but it's pointless. I mean, it's fine, everything works, but I'm not lying when saying I can't run my own router 😄

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And this is how a lot, if not most, ISPs are set up here.

molten linden
echo yarrow
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because I need one of those?

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I'll pass the other one on to a coworker. 🙂

thick plover
mighty river
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No, this is the "free market" working as intended.

echo yarrow
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Then switch providers.

mighty river
#

...

echo yarrow
#

internet providers are usually a local monopoly and they suck.

mighty river
#

I do actually have a fair amount of options here.. just not a lot with free modem choice, unless I don't mind paying extortionate fees for supposedly "professional" plans.

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But I'm not that passionate about it.

thick plover
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Honestly curious as to which country this is though. Here they all try to get you to use their modem, as they charge you for it etc. and its easy for their helpdesk monkeys to troubleshoot, but you are always able to put your username and password in to a different modem or router to access your connection

echo yarrow
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"free" modems, in the US they "rent" them to you.

mighty river
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@thick plover NL

thick plover
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wowee

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thought you guys were progressive!

echo yarrow
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@thick plover the modem is free. 🙂

mighty river
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I think it does mean they're not allowed to charge for it, so the modems are loaners or you get to keep 'em. They prefer that over handing you the credentials

echo yarrow
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I bought a docsis 3.1 modem years ago. haven't "rented" equipment in forever.

thick plover
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free ≠ good

thick plover
echo yarrow
#

sounds like they nat everything.

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saw that on a ton of our systems at work, whole countries nat'd through a couple addresses.

thick plover
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Aqara Motion Sensors, are the luminance sensor any good in them?

mighty river
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@thick plover whatever they are, I'm not getting it. I mean, I get router access and all, but not the DSL side of things. They bake it into the firmware or something.

thick plover
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That is gross

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renounce your citizenship 😛

echo yarrow
#

@mighty river they handing you an rfc1918 address?

mighty river
#

No, I get a public IP

echo yarrow
#

so you have a public IP presented to your on prem equipment?

mighty river
#

It's the DSL pptp account or whatever they're using nowadays that I'm not getting.

echo yarrow
#

ie you can plug your router wan port in and get a public IP?

mighty river
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@echo yarrow no, the modem/router gets the IP

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Theirs, anyway. I can plug something in, but since I don't have the "dial-in" credentials, I get no pptp link

#

Back in the day, every modem came with a piece of paper and you had to enter those manually. But nowadays they link it to whatever in the modem.

echo yarrow
#

so you get private IP from them for your network?

mighty river
#

I can set up the lan part myself, can set its private IP, etc. It's just forwarded to the wan port by default and that's as far as I can go

echo yarrow
#

I know that pfsense can do nat in nat.

mighty river
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Apart from the dsl link, it's actually quite open

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Well sure I can do double nat or something, but it's pointless

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I just have my own dhcp server give out the modem local ip as gw

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I can even dmz, port forward, etc. So it's not even that limited.

echo yarrow
#

then you're fine.

mighty river
#

Just can't have my own router with the public IP on its own interface.

#

It's just a minor nuissance, this isn't gestapo country all of a sudden. But it does piss off network "purists" like myself

#

Like, once every 1-2 years they bodge a firmware upgrade and it goes back to manufacturer settings, wifi re-enables with default settings... annoying. But I pay like 30 eurobucks. Meh

echo yarrow
#

good internet here starts at 49 bucks and goes up.

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I'm at 99/mo but I have gigabit.

mighty river
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Well that's 40 eurobucks, I'd still consider that "budget" here.

#

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the service otherwise.

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50/30

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Could get 100 for like 2.50 extra, but meh

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(same ISP that is)

#

So who lives in China now?

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😋

#

The former public telco is mandated by law to offer access to their infrastructure to 3rd parties for reasonable prices. I'd definitely say competition is working here, at least when it comes to price and quality of service. It's just that free modem choice isn't a competitive advantage, people don't care, so ISPs don't offer it to prevent having to deal with it through support.

echo yarrow
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yeah, we've had that reasonable prices stuff, really hard to make money when they own the last mile.

real fable
burnt furnace
#

Hi everyone ! I have a conbee II as zigbee key and I want to use a sensor which doesn't appear in conbee documentation, is it possible to communicate with Woox buzzer (alarm)
with conbee II ?

violet dagger
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it's not impossible but you might need to request support from deconz

burnt furnace
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I see thx !

sour shadow
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Alternatively ditch deCONZ and try ZHA instead

burnt furnace
#

Do you know if one buzzer alarm is compatible with conbe ?

sour shadow
#

As I'm fond of saying...

It's the software that matters not the stick

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The stick is "just" a radio for the software to use

thick plover
inland sail
#

I've just tried to add a new 4 gang switch to zigbee2mqtt and it is coming up unsupported. But the model column says ' TS0014'. I assume it is the same chipset. Is there an easy way to force it to identity it as that switch?

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TS0014 appears to be supported

violet dagger
#

is the manufacturer different?

inland sail
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Manufacturer says Unsupported

violet dagger
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there's a manufacturerid nexto to the modelid when going through pairing process

inland sail
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ah yeah it appears to be different - _TYZB01_bagt1e4o

violet dagger
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then it needs to be added as a new fingerprint

inland sail
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How do I achieve that?

violet dagger
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add it to devices/tuya.js

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what's the link to the device?

inland sail
#

That seems to be the wholesaler (or one of them)

violet dagger
inland sail
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You are my personal hero!

violet dagger
#

all in a days work 😉

inland sail
#

Thank you 🙂

thick plover
#

anyone cut an Ikea Fyrtur blind to size?

mighty river
#

Hey guys! Running into a problem with installing the deCONZ integration with a ConBee 2 USB stick. I'm running the Home Assistant OS on a raspberry pi. I added the deCONZ integration and followed the wizzard. The wizzard now wants me to press the "Authenticate app" button in the deCONZ Addon. I found the button, pressed it and it showed me a 60sec timer. Then I switched back to the integration setup wizzard and pressed "submit".

The wizzard now shows me an error: "Couldn't get an API key". Did I miss something? Does anyone know how I can fix this issue?

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I also added the 3 lines in the YAML and now the wizzard continues.

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We really need an updated user guide

wraith hill
#

Hey everyone! I also have a problem with the ConBee 2 USB Stick. I´m trying to install it on a Home Assistant Blue but the stick just wouldn´t get recognized. Anybody managed to have it running on a HAB?

mighty river
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Do you have a lot of experience with HA?

wraith hill
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Obviously not enough to get the stick working with the HAB...

mighty river
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hehe

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What I had to learn is, that I first have to install the deCONZ addon and after that the integration. Did you know this?

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I learned 5min ago that addon != integration 😛

sterile sleet
#

use usb2 ports. if you don‘t have any use a usb2 extension cable or usb2 hub on usb3 port

mighty river
#

absolotly newbie

wraith hill
#

Alright - Seems like it recognized the hub, but not the Conbee 😬

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No wait - it did! U are my here @sterile sleet 😎

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@mighty river - Maybe try installing the stick not through the "deConz" Integration but the "Zigbee Home Automation" one - worked for me

sour shadow
#

IMO ZHA is a better choice than deCONZ, but that stick is only a great choice for deCONZ - for ZHA (and Zigbee2MQTT) it's merely ok

mighty river
#

which stick would you suggest for ZHA?

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I can send the stick back to amazon and buy a better one for ZHA 😉

obsidian sandalBOT
#

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
mighty river
#

wow

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Tink... you are a knowledge library

sour shadow
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I've been here for a "while" now, if I didn't know a few things by now it'd be a bad sign 😛

junior meteor
#

I can vouch for ZHA. Even with a Raspbee, it worked better with it than deCONZ on my side

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Though I have since moved on from Raspbee to zzh!

molten linden
#

well my first batch of 9 PoE boards sold out in 9 hours... what do I know about cost/market viability 🤣

sour shadow
wraith hill
#

Seriously? No Zigbee 2 MQTT possible with the Conbee II ?!

sour shadow
#

Possible, yes

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Recommended, no

fallow warren
#

Hi I have this: Aqara Smart Plug

Does anyone know if zigbee will cut the power (e.g change state) if i reboot zigbee2mqtt or HA itself? I was thinking to place my servers after this to view power consumption

sour shadow
#

Short answer, not unless you've done something to make that happen

civic narwhal
#

If I created a custom zigpy library, do I need to test before adding it to ZHA?

wraith hill
#

I guess I will soon give up on finding a proper setup to hook up Tuya devices with HA ... 😓

pulsar skiff
#

Hey everyone, I'm trying to set up effects for my Silvercrest/Ikea bulbs but am having a real confusing time
I have a ZZH and the Silvercrest bulb is connected to my homeassistant with zha
I've been looking here (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/light) but I have no idea where these files are
or what effects I can put in or how to find that out

sour shadow
#

Effects are handled by the light itself - if it offers you something in the UI then you can use it

#

You can also look at devtools -> States for the attribute effect_list

pulsar skiff
#

what is the hammer?

tawdry flare
sour shadow
#

Found on the sidebar

pulsar skiff
#

right okay

#

so there's nothing there under states for the bulbs

#

so presumably no effects possible

pulsar skiff
sour shadow
#

If there's no effect_list attribute, then there's no effects

pulsar skiff
#

on the stock apps from Ikea/Silvercrest there are effects. Is it a matter of a feature not added or is it super difficult to reverse engineer?

fallow warren
#

Ok thanks tinkerer

tawdry flare
#

Question. Is there a particular way/order I should be adding new devices with ZHA? As in should I be adding the new device through the closest router or can I just add it through the coordinator or integration page and have it handle picking the most efficient route for the new device?

sour shadow
#

Start with the router devices first, then the end devices (battery powered ones) last

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Start near the router and spiral out

earnest sigil
#

My test Aqara door sensor arrived. Paired to the zzh stick instantly and the range looks pretty decent. Quality is great as well - feels like a well made unit. I'm very impressed!

gentle flint
peak dome
#

I thought all IKEA Trådfri lights should be routers? I'm having 3 of them show up as end devices in ZHA

austere patio
peak dome
austere patio
#

Hmm. What does the zigbee device signature for the device say?

peak dome
austere patio
#

Hmmmm: NodeDescriptor(*is_valid=False)

#

You didn't have ZHA debug logging on while joining this device, did you?

peak dome
#

Nope, unfortunately

austere patio
#

What coordinator are you using?

peak dome
austere patio
#

And have you restarted HA since you joined the device?

peak dome
#

I think it's the same as the elelabs one

austere patio
#

Yeah

peak dome
#

restarting HA now

austere patio
#

Oh no

#

I meant specifically to keep around the home-assistant.log file 😆

#

So no restarting 😆

#

Your device is basically half-joined and shouldn't really be in the Zigbee database. There's some bug I'm trying to track down, specifically one that causes what you're seeing

#

How long ago did you join it?

peak dome
#

Oh the restart caused it to become a router

austere patio
#

Hmmm

peak dome
austere patio
#

Yep, that's what it should look like

#

Did you join it some time in the past few weeks?

peak dome
#

Today

#

I moved from the conbee ii to the popp zb-stick today

austere patio
#

What HA version? 2021.5.4?

peak dome
#

2021.5.4 yes

austere patio
#

Thanks for the help

peak dome
#

No worries. I'm gonna be joining a ton of devices so I could keep a look out for it happening again. What debugging do you want me to activate?

austere patio
#

I wouldn't leave it running for months and months (even though I do...) but it does slightly increase the rate at which your home-assistant.log file grows

peak dome
#

activated it 😄 I'll get back to you if I notice any more devices acting the same way

#

I have about 25 lights or so to go I think

austere patio
#

If you see any more devices with an "unknown" type and their device signature includes NodeDescriptor(*is_valid=False), @-me or message me the log file

#

Thanks!

wraith hill
#

Anybody in here managed to include Tuya devices into HA and can give advice about the hardware / software setup used?

sour shadow
#

Assuming you mean their Zigbee range, using ... ZHA? Zigbee2MQTT?

wraith hill
#

Exactly 👍

sour shadow
#

It'll probably work in ZHA too, but ... shrug

#

If you ask about a specific device, somebody will be able to give you a more useful answer 😉

wraith hill
#

Alright, thanks already. So now I guess I would also need to find a Zigbee Stick that is available in Germany and supported by Zigbee 2 MQTT...

sour shadow
wraith hill
#

Can u recommend a tutorial for the HA setup?

sour shadow
#

Well, that bit is pretty trivial

wraith hill
#

Ok, thanks much for your support

tiny vigil
#

Conbee is also nice option. Manufactured in Dresden

austere patio
#

It's fiddly and the source of many user complaints. Some people have huge networks with Conbees and have no issues, other people can't even get it to start working without USB extension cables. Reboots are also an issue with them, though I think recent firmware updates have possibly helped.

inland sail
raw hazel
#

hi Guys, good day/evening
anyone here with battery drain on Zigbee sensors?
any work arround it?

forest cobalt
#

Ok... Proper channel. 🙂 What kind of sensor are they?

raw hazel
forest cobalt
#

Hmmmm, I've not heard much about battery drain on those. Are you using ZHA or Z2M or something else?

raw hazel
#

ZHA

#

they work fine for a couple of weeks... then they just die

forest cobalt
#

Die as in battery stops reading or do they drop off your mesh and then you need to re-pair them?

raw hazel
#

they drop off mesh, sometimes I am able to re-pair, sometimes not

forest cobalt
#

Even with aggressive battery checking, they should last more than a couple of weeks.

raw hazel
#

can baterry check be turned off?

forest cobalt
#

Ok, so first thing I would do is actually check the batteries (with a battery tester or something). But, what it sounds more like is that you have a weak mesh. Do you have any routing devices in place?

#

Nope. It's a built-in feature.

#

That could also be the reason why the batteries would be draining quickly. If you have a weak mesh and not enough routing devices, the devices will try to re-transmit messages to make sure the coordinator has received the message.

raw hazel
#

I have a good Mesh, I guess, I use a zigbee dimmer to extend the hub.

forest cobalt
#

You probably need more than one. Do you notice that the devices that are draining faster are further away from the bridge and/or dimmer?

raw hazel
forest cobalt
#

Ok. Can you check the network map in ZHA? Specifically, look to see which devices are connected to your dimmer and which ones are connected to the bridge. There's a chance that the one that is close to the dimmer is actually connected directly to the coordinator.

raw hazel
#

the thing is, this sensor is a door sensor. the door is kept open for at least 18 hours of the day...

#

could that be it?

forest cobalt
#

Shouldn't make a difference.

raw hazel
#

i agree

raw hazel
austere patio
#

Is the reported battery percentage actually going down?

#

Are you using new batteries or the ones that the sensors came with?

raw hazel
austere patio
#

What coordinator are you using?

raw hazel
#

sonoff with Tasmota

austere patio
raw hazel
austere patio
#

How many sensors do you have?

raw hazel
#

6

austere patio
#

And they all do this?

raw hazel
#

no, only a couple

austere patio
#

Same ones each time? I've seen reports of Sonoff motion sensors constantly triggering (which I assume will drain the battery) so the sensors themselves could be faulty

raw hazel
#

I've been monitoring them hourly. no false triggers

austere patio
#

But if yours are door sensors then they can be constantly awake in the same way as the motion sensors

#

Just not detecting motion, since they only report what the reed switch detects when a magnet clicks it on or off

raw hazel
#

this particular door is kept open all day... and it is only closed when is time for bed

austere patio
#

The sensor is woken up when the switch state changes, it doesn't matter if it's open or closed

#

Unless you're slamming the door nonstop for 18 hours a day

raw hazel
#

LOL , no

austere patio
#

Although if it's buggy Sonoff firmware then it could very well behave strangely with doors that are always kept "open"

#

Maybe try swapping this sensor that drains quickly with one that doesn't, on another door?

raw hazel
#

I could do that... but I am not using sonoff on my coordinator...

austere patio
#

The sensor firmware, not the coordinator firmware

#

But you can't update them

raw hazel
#

ok. that's what I thought

austere patio
#

So to figure out if it's your coordinator firmware or a broken sensor, maybe try factory resetting and re-joining one of the bad sensors with a fresh battery

#

And swap it with a known-working sensor on another door

raw hazel
#

thanks!!! I'll try that tomorrow....
Have a great day guys...

brazen robin
#

Have a new Philips Hue Motion Detector that appears to not report motion... Occupancy sensor appears to be working; have historical data for it, lux, and temp. But nothing for motion. Not sure where to start looking. Google hasn't lead me anywhere...
Could my sensor names just be backwards (somehow)? Node-RED reports the change pretty quickly and I see it happen in HA Dev Tools > States.
UPDATE: So searching for Hue SML001 lead me to a post where guy noticed the same thing. Seems that occupancy sensor is really the motion sensor and the on/off is some sort of internal switch that no one seems to know what it does. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zha-philips-motion-sensor-sml001-entities-question/268156

rancid bluff
#

Anyone using zigbee2mqtt? I have switched relatively recently from deconz and it seems when a light is turned off at the switch and then turned back on that HA doesnt get an update that the light is on? Is there a fix?

echo yarrow
#

is this a zigbee bulb?

#

I'm reading that as the bulb loses power, then is powered back on.

#

did it used to work under deconz?

rancid bluff
#

Yeah they are tradfri bulbs and yeah under deconz HA would get the updated status

echo yarrow
#

every bulb doing it, or just one?

rancid bluff
#

Every bulb

echo yarrow
#

same hardware usb stick, coordinator/hub?

rancid bluff
#

Yep, only thing that changed was the move from deconz to zigbee2mqtt, still using the raspbee ii so shield not usb, only changed the software and then repaired all the devices

#

Only reason it bugs me is because HA doesnt think those lights are on adaptive lights doesnt update them

echo yarrow
#

that kind of points at zigbee2mqtt

#

I don't have any tradfri stuff, but just looked at it on ikea, wow it's cheap. I shall have some tomorrow. 🙂

rancid bluff
#

Yeah, I'll go hassle them on their discord

echo yarrow
#

should be a way to watch the incoming stream when you turn the bulb on.

#

"oh look, we don't get this message" or it's different than what is expected.

rancid bluff
#

I am not massive on the lights, tbh as they die I will probably replace them with something I can flash with tasmota but I do like their switches

echo yarrow
#

I'm looking at that outlet with button.

rancid bluff
#

Which one is that?

echo yarrow
#

I just picked up a tube coordinator and am playing with that.

#

In stock in san diego.

rancid bluff
#

ah, they dont have those in AU

echo yarrow
#

they probably have something for your mains wiring.

rancid bluff
#

I just bought a shortcut button for my 3yo daughter so when she gets scared of the dark at night she can push it and it turns on the lights with red colour at low brightness for 2 min, she loves it

#

Only works when nightmode is on in her room though lol

#

I just bought some makegood tasmota flashable outlets for that, they are like $20 each

#

And dont look half bad

echo yarrow
#

Yeah, my daughter closes on her first house on friday.

rancid bluff
#

different stages, I was a late breeder, I had a 2.5yo and a 3 month old for my 40th

echo yarrow
#

28, 26, 23. youngest still trying to figure out what he's going to do, oldest is a 3rd grade teacher, and middle is a software engineer for Sony.

#

middle is the one buying the house.

#

she's already asking about smart home stuff.

rancid bluff
#

One of my neighbours kids got in trouble for hacking something at his school recently, and his mother was worried about him, I said sounds like he is employable to me

echo yarrow
#

I suspect I'm going to be pulling cable when I visit late july.

rancid bluff
#

The kid is 14 or 15

echo yarrow
#

My buddies kid took runner up at LA Haxx when he was 15, he's working on his Phd in computer science at UCSD and interning at amd graphics group.

rancid bluff
#

I am still building my small server room for the house, had everything framed and the concrete its sitting was so bad when I drilled the holes to attach it the concrete basically disintegrated. Once the room is up the gun cabinet and the rack will go in there and then I will be pulling cable

echo yarrow
#

I thought they banned guns in .au?

rancid bluff
#

No, that has never been the case, you have to be licensed and the types of firearms you can get is restricted

#

You have to have genuine need to have them, even if that is just to shoot at a gun club

#

No semi or fully automatics

#

No silencers (this one annoys me)

echo yarrow
#

movies made those scary.

rancid bluff
#

But I can get shotguns, centrefire and rim fire rifles for the most part with no problem

#

No hand guns, thats a separate category I dont have

#

I live on a property so pest control is mainly what I use them for, mainly kangaroos, rabbits and foxes

#

I have to get a permit to buy each gun as well, its not a free for all because I have a license

#

Limits on magazine size is also a big thing

indigo sigil
#

Hi , have anyone tried the Tube's zigbee router from TubeZBstore ? i am using it with my Zigbee2Mqtt , how do i know if it's turned on and connect to my network. Will it listed in the devices list in zigbee2mqtt?

sour shadow
#

I am. You pair it like anything else, it shows up like anything else

indigo sigil
#

oh wait does it have buttons to set into pairing mode?

echo yarrow
rancid bluff
#

zigbee2mqtt usually has pairing enabled by default

echo yarrow
#

but it doesn't see lightbulbs being powered on. 🙂

sour shadow
rancid bluff
sour shadow
#

You can choose to set it to default to on, but as of somewhere in the 1.18 releases it finally auto-disables on a timer partyParrot_2

indigo sigil
sour shadow
#

Put Z2M in pairing mode. Power up the router. It should auto-join if it's in range of the mesh

#

Device should go into pairing mode as soon as it is powered up for the first time.

indigo sigil
#

hmm got em all correct. But i'll try again

sour shadow
#

If it doesn't then

To factory reset, open case (it's a friction fit) and a single press of the BSL button will reset the device.

#

(needs to be powered when you push the button)

indigo sigil
#

Ok got it worked after couple of turning on and turning it off . lol btw if anyone concern what it should be listed as:
Manufacturer: Custome Devices (Diy)
Model: ti.router

echo yarrow
#

yup, it uses the ti chipset.

indigo sigil
#

so now i'll just let the zigbee network do it connection itself right?

sour shadow
#

That's always the best choice

indigo sigil
#

awesome thanks guys!

indigo sigil
#

So i positioned my router like this coordinator>router>wall switch. But currently the connection is like this as shown in the Network Maps:

  1. Coordinator to Router
  2. Coordinator to Wall switch

What's weird is my router getting 15Lqi while the wall switch gets 39lqi .

Shouldn't the router getting better signal than the wall switch as the wall switch is much further than the router?

sour shadow
#

Welcome to the wonderful world of RF

#

On my Z-Wave mesh I have one device that's connected through another one further away. Indeed, it's almost a direct line between the coordinator, the far device, and the near device. But almost is enough that the "odd" route is the one that's "better"

indigo sigil
#

Ouch, yeah it gets weird. I have 1 switch is more further than the one after router. It couldn't get connected to any of them . Hoping the router could help but. The signal quality just get worst . lost of try and error needed .

serene fractal
#

Zzh sticks back in stock now!

violet dagger
#

goldrush!

final pivot
#

Hi guys where is the instruction on how to flash CC2652R so I can use with ZHA?

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or is it preflashed (from tindie)

violet dagger
final pivot
#

looks complicated no?

sour shadow
#

No

violet dagger
#

sure, it requires use of command line 🤣

sour shadow
#

I mean, if you can use HA then flashing one of the USB flashable sticks is so easy

final pivot
sour shadow
violet dagger
#

altho their docs says "The beginner friendly, Windows-only option: Flash firmware using TI's Flash Programmer 2"

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probably because it doesn't require the use of command line and installing python in windows can be... difficult... for users

sour shadow
#

If you're not running HAOS you can run it all on the system running Zigbee2MQTT, even if that's Windows 😛

final pivot
#

ohh right I read it wrong, thought you said not to use the ''windows'' method, but yeah thats good thanks

violet dagger
#

i did my best to give windows python instructions as best as i could

mighty river
#

Hi I;m running ZHA with a ConBee II, works well..

I have a wall dimmer, for which i have an automation on double click.

However I noticed that the Zigbee wall dimmer, only sends 1 event when i double click it.

Is this an issue of the dimmer, an issue of conbee or an issue of ZHA?

sour shadow
#

Does the dimmer support double click as a message? Not all do

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It may well be "debouncing" - avoiding sending the same message in a very short time interval

blissful nacelle
#

I'm getting the zzh! zigbee controller, and was wondering if I should also get the debug adapter kit. Not sure if I need it for stuff like flashing firmware and such

violet dagger
#

no you don't unless you flash a firmware without bootloader on the stick

spark lion
#

I'm currently running a CC2531 with z2m, and I'm thinking of buying either a zzh! CC2652R or the cheap itead zigbee 3.0 dongle. I live in an apartment and I'd love to pair some zigbee 3.0 devices which the CC2531 doesn't support. I'm aware that currently, support for the itead dongle is experimental in z2m while the zzh! is recommended. Is the extra price for the zzh! worth it, or should I buy the itead dongle and switch to zha until support for the dongle is out of experimental in z2m?

violet dagger
#

you already have one cheap dongle 😄

#

zzh! just works

spark lion
#

also no need for debugger (unless you screw something up 🤣 )

#

yeah, I might just get the zzh!, also it should age better than the itead dongle, if I decide to move in a near future and take the dongle with me

violet dagger
#

mine is just working and I have a preproduction sample

#

a year of service already

spark lion
#

well, added it to the cart 😄
thank you for the input

mighty river
# sour shadow Does the dimmer support double click as a message? Not all do

This dimmer does not support it. So it might be deboucing. I also got a z-wave dimmer which sends a different message for double click. That one works really well..

But for the zigbee dimmer i want do detect the double click in Home-Assistent using automation. It works well if i "double click" from Lovelace... But apparently the wall dimmer only sends one event

#

I thought maybe the polling of ZHA is too slow so i only detects one event... I dont see the "zha_event" showing up

thick plover
#

Anyone have experience pairing the Ikea roller blind and its repeater?

#

Cannot get the repeater to pair at all

frail shell
#

Hello people : Zigbee USB Dongle ConBee II vs ZZH Stick ? 🙂 ....The delivery time of the ZZH stick si huge here , so i was looking at alternatives

#

What would you do : A. wait for the ZZH or get a ConBee II stick

forest cobalt
#

I'd wait for the ZZH.

violet dagger
#

wait?

ivory hound
#

any solution is better then conbee 🙂

violet dagger
#

the question is: is it better to wait or suffer and wait 😛

ivory hound
#

@frail shell on short whatver you do, you will still get the zzh, we promise 🙂

frail shell
#

i wait for the ZZH then 🙂

#

thx guys !

ivory hound
#

smart and calculated move

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😄

violet dagger
#

i have 10 different coordinators in a drawer and zzh! in use. do the math

ivory hound
#

tbh on par with it i'd say zha elulabs elu13

sour shadow
#

For use with ZHA anyway 😄

ivory hound
#

yes

peak dome
#

I battled with my conbee ii for about 2 weeks before giving up and getting the elelabs

frail shell
#

the dutch store told me that the cobee ii was extremely stable and could be delivered within 1 day lol

#

that made me doubt

peak dome
#

It is extremely stable and good for some people it seems. However it does appear to be really inconsistent, with a lot of people having a bunch of issues with it

frail shell
#

ZZH for sure here, i can wait

mighty river
#

The RaspBee II works fine for me btw, no stick, just directly on the Raspberrpi pins. Much more integrated.

sour shadow
#

And much harder to migrate to not a Pi in the future

peak dome
#

hmm, after moving to the elelabs stick and adding some ikea buttons (both the on/off-switch and the fyrtur remote) I can't see them firing any zha_event when pressed

#

confirmed same thing with 5-button remote too

thick plover
#

have a ikea blind / cover paired to z2m, however it is saying 'closed' when in fact it is open. any idea on how i can reverse this? I did try the invert_cover: true line in the config, but it hasn't changed anything

austere patio
spark lion
#

Anyways, I've already placed the order for the zzh 😛

austere patio
#

Security features (that no software takes advantage of at the moment) mostly

junior meteor
austere patio
#

Firmware is half open source, like with everything else. Texas Instruments keeps the good stuff locked down 😦

junior meteor
#

Right, right

#

I meant the one where you flash so it works with z2m/zha/whatever

austere patio
#

Yeah, that's the firmware

junior meteor
#

Ah, sorry!

austere patio
#

It's Koenkk's build of TI's Z-Stack, with some tweaks

junior meteor
#

Half open is still better than nothing 😄

austere patio
earnest sigil
#

Quick zigbee2mqtt integration question. My test sensor has successfully shown up as a device in hass with a long hex name. The entities are named the same. I go to edit the device and put in a new name and assign to an area. It asks if I want to rename the entities and I agree and my entities now have their new names. However the device still shows the long hex name and none of them seem to be showing as being in the area I picked. I try and edit again. Now if I put a new name in nothing changes, including the entities. Restarted hass and the now seem to show in the area, but can't update all the names from the device now

#

Can you only rename the device once and have it push down to entities?

sour shadow
#

Why not rename it in the Z2M UI and have it all flow down?

#

I think though that if you rename the entities then renaming the device no longer renames the entities

earnest sigil
#

hmm ok didn't even know Z2M had a UI - thought it was headless. I just set the config file up and let it run

sour shadow
#

It's had one since 1.15, and even before then you could rename from there and have it flow through

earnest sigil
#

aha you have to enable it in the config

#

awesome - will have a play with that then. cheers @sour shadow

solid inlet
#

One of my Hue Motion Sensors flash a long red when triggered. As I've read that should mean the battery is low, but it reports as 62%... Could that still be the case? What are your experience with these?

tiny bramble
#

Hi, I just installed a CC2652P2 based zigbee stick and as zha does not recognize the events of my ikea tradfri remote, I installed zigbee2mqtt and added the remote there.
I added the devices via mqtt discovery to homeassistant and try to use them in noderead which connects to homeassistant.
When I listen to sensor.tradfri_remote_action in nodered every buttonpress and release leads to four actions. "" "toggle" "toggle" "" or "" "brightness-up-klick" "brightness-up-klick" "".
I can filter this in nodered, but it seems like a misconfiguration on my side.
Any ideas why nodered recognizes four events and especially two times the action that's triggered and what I need to change to get to "normal" behaviour?

#

zigbeemqtt logs the following messages when pressing/release the button:
MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Tradfri Remote', payload '{"action":"toggle","battery":74,"linkquality":36,"update":{"state":"available"},"update_available":true,"voltage":3000}'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Tradfri Remote', payload '{"action":"","battery":74,"linkquality":36,"update":{"state":"available"},"update_available":true,"voltage":3000}'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Tradfri Remote/action', payload 'toggle'

earnest sigil
#

Just wondering, is there a min link quality you need to aim to stay above?

solid inlet
earnest sigil
#

Well we're a sample of 2 so who knows 🙂

sour shadow
#

Some brands recommend a minimum number, I've seen 20 suggested for Xiaomi devices for instance, but there's no universal rule. I certainly have had devices stable with LQI below that

earnest sigil
#

Sub 20 this sensor seemed a bit unresponsive

sour shadow
#

Hence, no universal rule

earnest sigil
#

Cool. Wasn't sure if there was a guideline or not. Sounds like it's whatever works ☺️

sour shadow
#

Yeah... it doesn't help that different chipsets measure LQI differently

earnest sigil
#

Will probably get another stick from tindie and plug it in further across the house

sour shadow
#

Worth looking at the ones based on CC2652p - such as Tube's - since you can flash a +20dB firmware to them

frail shell
#

zzh stick is very good from what i heard

earnest sigil
#

Yean another zzh was what I was thinking

#

The one I've got seems great but my house is just a bit too big given the location of my server

frail shell
#

some powered devices act as a repeater ?

earnest sigil
#

Currently got no powered stuff

sour shadow
#

Dedicated router devices don't hurt - they often support far more connections

frail shell
#

@sour shadow which decided router device would you use in this case?

sour shadow
earnest sigil
#

Dont you just flash the zzh with router firmware?

sour shadow
#

You can, sure

#

I have that on my second one 😄

earnest sigil
#

Is there a better option?

sour shadow
frail shell
#

you have 2 zzh sticks @sour shadow ? Sell one to me 😄

earnest sigil
#

Sorry on phone so didnt click 😆

#

I thought the zzh was a 2652p

sour shadow
#

It's not, it's "just" CC2652

earnest sigil
#

Ahhh

zinc nacelle
#

Quick question ... who else flashed a sonoff zbbridge

#

Having trouble connecting it to HA 😦

sour shadow
#

It's not an awesome Zigbee bridge anyway 😛

zinc nacelle
#

Yeah .. but having trouble connecting it 😛

#

followed several online guides

sour shadow
#

What did you try flashing it with?

zinc nacelle
#

with the standard tasmota-zbbridge.bin

#

got it connected to my wifi

#

but it wont flash the zb firmware

violet dagger
#

what's the error

zinc nacelle
#

wtf... i just restarted it with a Reset to factory defaults .... now its uploading .... puzzled

#

probably had some stuff still in the config after he upload from sonoff 😄

#

confused

wild seal
#

hi, i'm currently running zigbee2mqtt with a conbee 1, it's been working pretty well, then a couple weeks ago, my lights and plugs stop responding to commands from HA. What's odd is that I have a light sensor that runs through those repeaters that's still reporting data. I'm not sure how to start troubleshooting...

sour shadow
#

Start by power cycling all the mains powered devices

wild seal
#

yup done that (including the router hard off/on)

#

crap. i have to leave. i'll try to ping back in here later. thanks for the suggestion @sour shadow

frail shell
#

a bit offtopic : but i saw that i can't sent a mail to the shop that sells the ZZH stick

austere patio
#

This?

PLEASE DO NOT SEND MESSAGES ON TINDIE, EMAIL US AT support@electrolama.com INSTEAD. Thank you for your cooperation.

frail shell
#

yes exactly

#

when you mail to that address you'll get a Bad recipient address

austere patio
#

Are you sending from a common email domain?

frail shell
#

yes

#

i could try my gmail address

#

using gmail it worked

austere patio
#

His domain is probably handling email through Microsoft. They suck.

cedar coyote
#

Running ZHA. I'm looking at the Enbrighten 43080 dimmer switch as recommended by the blak adder website. If I install this, in addition to controlling the light, will this act as a "router" to help extend my zigbee network?

frail shell
#

@austere patio yes ! you're right

peak dome
#

Posted earlier about my ikea remotes (fyrtur remote, on/off switch and 5-button remote) not sending any zha_event when pressed. I tried changing my elelabs fw from v8 to v6, no difference

wild seal
austere patio
peak dome
#

The ikea remotes were one of the few things working somewhat with the ConBee II + ZHA, so I doubt they're broken. Also hue dimmer switches and aqara mini switch work fine

earnest sigil
#

BTW is it normal not to have to put the zzh stick into pairing mode to add a device?

#

When I got my first sensor it seemed to just appear after pressing the button on the sensor 🙂

austere patio
earnest sigil
#

zigbee2mqtt

#

I was assuming I'd need to turn on pairing mode somehow, like I do on my zwave stick, and was about to look for some instructions when I noticed the device was already there

earnest sigil
#

do all powered zigbee devices act as routers? wondering if I could get a powered zigbee siren or two instead to increase the mesh range

dry fossil
#

Most mains-powered devices act as routers.

earnest sigil
#

so something like that might work?

dry fossil
#

It says it's portable. That doesn't suggest mains-powered.

earnest sigil
primal ermine
earnest sigil
#

Don't seem to be that many indoor sirens in the Z2M device list. the one I listed above is, and this one https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/NAS-AB02B0.html. The neo one appears to allow changing of the tone etc. which I can currently do with my zwave one, which is handy

#

That one has USB power, but no idea if it works as a router or not

#

slightly concerned that the model number on aliexpress is NAS-AB02BT while the profile in Z2M is NAS-AB02B0. so might not work? Hmm reviews on Aliexpress suggest it works ok

forest cobalt
cedar coyote
#

i'm going to try the switch.

austere patio
primal ermine
austere patio
#

Yeah. That one seems to explicitly support local data collection and display, which is nice

#

The only other one I had experience with had to be reverse engineered to get access to the data

primal ermine
#

Hmmm. Yeah I'd probably rather stick with a relatively straightforward integration on this. Plenty of other things to tinker with in the meantime!

fierce gulch
#

Guys, last time I read forum, ZHA still didn’t play well with IKEA Fyrtur shades. Did anything change?
My Tradfri hub has been acting up lately, it’d be great if I can ditch it in favor of ZHA.

echo yarrow
#

just got back from ikea, picked up some things.

#

2 bulbs, a couple switches, motion detector and those outlet switches.

#

the lightbulb paired up right away, but no state change on power cycle, I guess that is to be expected.

sinful swift
#

I got my Tube's Zigbee coordinator set up with z2mqtt no issues. No problem adding my Aqara door/window sensors. Except... the window sensor contacts are shown as a door device class. I cant find anywhere in z2mqtt to change this. Do I do it in customise or the zigbee2mqtt/devices.yaml file?

echo yarrow
#

I'm not seeing this tradfri switch (1/0) show up in lovelace when I tag a location.

echo yarrow
#

Ok, motion sensor shows up, but button or on/off switch doesn't show up. all Tradfri stuff.

violet dagger
sinful swift
#

Yeah I did that:

#

But it was delete when I added another device

violet dagger
#

then use customize.yaml in HA

sinful swift
#

Hang on. I did that in the wrong file. I did it in zigbee2mqtt/devices.yaml not zigbee2mqtt/configuration.yaml. Ill give it another go.

#

Hmm my configuration.yaml file is in json not yaml like the example.

violet dagger
#

that's what you get for running add-ons

sinful swift
#

?

#

Stuff it. customize.yaml worked.

thick plover
#

Looking to make contact with a being who was once the owner of a cover which decided it was open when closed and closed when open and is now the proud owner of a cover who knows it’s true identity. Feel free to slide into my DM’s for good times and enlightenment.

civic narwhal
obsidian sandalBOT
#

@civic narwhal Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

Command '~crosspost' was invoked by: Tinkerer
silent lintel
#

I got my first RGB Bulb. What's the best way to mess with the color - Z2M or in HA?

#

Or...How do i get a RGB bulb to be white?

sour shadow
#

Pick the colour white...

silent lintel
#

In the color palatte in HA, right?

sour shadow
#

Yes

#

Or from a light service call

silent lintel
sour shadow
#

At the end of the day, it's a light, that's all that matters

#

Whatever integration you use, once it's a light then it's a light

near echo
#

Just tested the LPSTK 13252R - the Z2M co-ordinator can be flashed (flashed via another CC1352P2, but I think can also flash via app as OTA). However, after flashing you would need the FTDI connectivity - not elegant but cheaper and compact than CC1352P2

#

The CC1352P2 are shown as Out of stock in TI site (maybe EOL?)

austere patio
violet dagger
austere patio
#

• Movement detection

#

Nice

#

This looks actually pretty decent for outdoor mounting, especially with a tamper alarm. Looks like it supports OTA and exposes both the battery voltage and percentage.

sour shadow
#

Doesn't look too ugly either, which is nice 😄

lethal lintel
#

can i connect zigbee 3.0 devices if i got a cc2531 stick flashed with zstack 1.2?

plush latch
#

why I cant login in my deconz page from my raspberryPi instance?

#

Im getting this message

#

Add-on is not running. Please start it first

lethal lintel
#

i never ran deconz, but isnt there a supervisor page where you can click on start ?

#

or do you have a pi dedicated to deconz without homeassistant?

sour shadow
sour shadow
lethal lintel
#

i know, i still have to migrate to one of the pinned devices

#

but does one need the cc2531 3.0 firmware flashed before 3.0 devices can be connected?

sour shadow
#

No

lethal lintel
#

rgr that

#

i also see in the pinned messages that the range comparison item is outdated

#

is there a better device in the market than stated ?

sour shadow
#

It is, I should remove it since the world has moved on

#

CC2652p based sticks are #1, CC2652 based sticks are #2

lethal lintel
#

hmm cannot seem to find any device that does except for the chip itself

sour shadow
plush latch
#

CC2652p is better than conbeeII?

sour shadow
#

Conbee II is great for deCONZ

#

If you don't run deCONZ, use something else

orchid galleon
#

Anyone done any zigbee2mqtt dev using HA?
Trying to test out a new device but cant require herdsman

dry fossil
near echo
austere patio
#

Easier to get the CC2652P nowadays

near echo
austere patio
#

Plus the CC2652R is more than enough

near echo
#

There used to be LPSTK CC2652R also, but no longer available

autumn warren
#

What do you guys use for wired light switches? Cheapest I've found are the Jasco/Enbrighten

echo yarrow
#

you need to know if your switches have a neutral or not.

autumn warren
#

They do

jolly narwhal
#

@orchid galleon I've run Dev for almost two years

orchid galleon
#

Doesn't find herdsman

jolly narwhal
#

Sounds like add-ons

orchid galleon
#

Huh

jolly narwhal
#

It's an add-on

orchid galleon
jolly narwhal
#

No idea if you can do herdsman in add-ons

orchid galleon
#

Hmmm how else are you supposed to run it with ha

jolly narwhal
#

In a normal docker setup without supervisor nonsense

#

Or a bare metal Linux server

orchid galleon
#

Hmm

#

Docs for the hassio add-on just link to the normal Dev docs should suggests it should work

#

A ha!

sinful swift
#

@molten linden Big thanks mate. Your CC2652P2 Ethernet coordinator was a cinch to set up with z2mqtt and has been working flawlessly. The one coordinator covers my entire two story house - and yard! Now I'm wondering why I persisted so long with solar/battery powered ESP boards on my mailbox and gate.

jolly narwhal
#

Restarting via supervisor clears all changes

remote patio
#

can someone explain to me how binding in z2m works? I added a tradfri on/off switch and it automatically bound to a xiaomi smart power plug. I assume this is because that switch was in the "default group"?.. I unbound it using the web ui.. that worked.. but I can't figure out how to bing it back using the web ui

sour shadow
#

Select device in Z2M UI, select the Bind tab, find the device you want to bind to , select the clusters, hit Bind

remote patio
#

apparently the switch only supports binding to groups and not devices

sour shadow
remote patio
#

The E1743 can be bound to groups using binding. It can only be bound to 1 group at a time and cannot be bound to a device.

#

the documentation makes no mention of the ui at all

sour shadow
#

The UI is relatively new, and pretty intuitive

remote patio
#

I have no idea what the binding is supposed to look like and I don't see any way to makea group biding.. I'll try pairing the switch again and hoping it binds with the smart plug again and then see what that looks like in the ui

sour shadow
#

In the UI you pick the target group rather than the target device

remote patio
#

I only have devices to select

sour shadow
#

Then you haven't created a group, or at least not one that has any targets for binding

remote patio
#

well that's the confusing part.. how then did it bind to the smart plug in the first place? :/

sour shadow
#

This is you... shrug

remote patio
#

By default this remote is bound to the default bind group which you first have to unbind it from.

#

no it's intended to work that way

#

and I can only assume thatthe smart plug is in that group

#

well. it bound to the switch automatically again.. but there is no indication of this that i can see in the web ui

#

I guess it's between the two devices and nothing to do with z2m.. but it would still be nice to know how to trigger the binding via the web ui

sour shadow
remote patio
sour shadow
#

And yes, binding is between the devices, Z2M only knows about what it set up

#

So... you've got issues, again... what's new?

remote patio
#

the issue is the web ui doesn't seem to support the function. so the issue may not be with me

sour shadow
#

If you're on 1.18.x then it does

#

Probably older releases too

remote patio
#

there are no groups to bind to in the binding tab

#

only devices are listed as destination.. and binding to the smart plug device fails

#

creating a default_bind_group from the web ui caused it to show two such groups.. I was then able to delete one and it now shows it properly.. but my problem now is I can't figure out how to REMOVE the binding.

sour shadow
#

If it shows in the UI, use the unbind button

#

If it doesn't, use the MQTT commands

remote patio
# 
Error Nothing to unbind from 'Smart Plug 1' to 'default_bind_group'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload '{"message":{"from":"Smart Plug 1","to":"default_bind_group"},"type":"device_unbind_failed"}'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/response/device/unbind', payload '{"data":{"clusters":[],"failed":[],"from":"Smart Plug 1/1","to":"default_bind_group"},"error":"Nothing to unbind","status":"error","transaction":"54h4h-1"}'
Error Nothing to unbind
Error Nothing to unbind from 'Smart Switch 1' to 'default_bind_group'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload '{"message":{"from":"Smart Switch 1","to":"default_bind_group"},"type":"device_unbind_failed"}'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/response/device/unbind', payload '{"data":{"clusters":[],"failed":[],"from":"Smart Switch 1/1","to":"default_bind_group"},"error":"Nothing to unbind","status":"error","transaction":"54h4h-2"}'
Error Nothing to unbind
echo yarrow
#

ok, flipping this over to zigbee2mqtt and it's failing to open the socket to the coordinator (tube)

jolly narwhal
#

Flipping this over wtf

sour shadow
echo yarrow
#

it was somewhat working on zha. 🙂

sour shadow
#

Somewhat?

echo yarrow
#

the ikea switches were only being recognized as sensors.

#

this is a new setup so I figured I'd try zigbee2mqtt.

jolly narwhal
#

What in tarnation

#

Zigbee2mqtt 4 lyfe, and the tube box seems nice

echo yarrow
# 
  port: 'tcp://tube_zb_gw_cc2652p2.local:6638'```
jolly narwhal
#

Don't do mDNS nonsense is my first tip

violet dagger
#

damn, you were faster 😁

echo yarrow
#

haha.

jolly narwhal
#

I always am

#

To my wife's dismay

echo yarrow
#

doesn't change.

# 
    at Znp.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.js:291:27)
    at Generator.next (<anonymous>)
    at fulfilled (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.js:24:58)
    at processTicksAndRejections (internal/process/task_queues.js:93:5)```
jolly narwhal
#

Is that with the ip?

echo yarrow
#

yup.

jolly narwhal
#

Is it pingable? And no other ZigBee stacks running?

echo yarrow
#

I do see home assistant.

#

I removed zha

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[D][streamserver:085]: New client connected from 192.168.11.216
[D][streamserver:050]: Client 192.168.11.216 disconnected```
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ok, stop zigbee2mqtt and the log stops on the coordinator.

pearl hawk
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Looking for tips on how to make lights.toggle behave. I experience a lot of random on/off on my lights when I use a lights.toggle automation. At the moment I have rebuilt this to using two automations (one for lights.on and one for lights.off), but this seems unnecessary when there is a toggle. I only have 7 smart bulbs so far, but it might be more, if my missus aproves 🙂 That depends heavily on making this behave...

sour shadow
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Groups

pearl hawk
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In the coordinator(integration), or in configuration (or maybe that is the same thing?)

sour shadow
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Create a Zigbee group using whatever Zigbee integration you use

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Then there's one command to turn on/off every light

pearl hawk
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OK, this is probably the thing I want. Thank you.

remote patio
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is the default_bind_group #901 supposed to be listed in the groups.yaml?

echo yarrow
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heh, that's the remote I'm playing with.

remote patio
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the ikea on/off switch?

echo yarrow
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yup.

remote patio
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did yours bind to anything automatically after it joined?

echo yarrow
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not using z2m

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it popped up and showed battery status.

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using zha

remote patio
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I'm not sure if that's a feature of z2m or the switch

echo yarrow
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I could also do automations with it.

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but it didn't show up as a "switch" device.

remote patio
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I never tried it with zha.. I was on z2m years ago.. then moved to deconz.. tried zha a bit and now I'm moving back to z2m

echo yarrow
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right now z2m won't connect to the tube coordinator.

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connects then disconnects.

remote patio
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tube?

echo yarrow
remote patio
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hmm. no experience with that device.. just the diy cheapo coordinator, conbee2 and zzh!

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I wonder if there is any way to query a device for what group number it is part of

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hang on.. I seem to have lost a device atsome stage..