#zigbee-archived | Home Assistant | Page 124

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 10:15 AM

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The integration does

obsidian kettle Mar 30, 2021, 11:01 AM

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I’m sold on Zigbee2MQTT. Hoping the zzh sticks become available soon.

shut pagoda Mar 30, 2021, 1:23 PM

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They've been available every 1-2 weeks lately. And the combo you have selected just works

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 1:34 PM

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I just got my zigbee stick from electrolama. I want to install z2m on it, is it possible I flash the stick on my OS X machine and after that just plug it in to my old pc running the vm?

junior meteor Mar 30, 2021, 1:38 PM

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Yes

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You don't install z2m on it. You install its firmware so that it can be a Zigbee coordinator. You install z2m on your VM

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 1:41 PM

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Yes that's what I meant sorry 😂

junior meteor Mar 30, 2021, 1:43 PM

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No worries, then we're on the same page 🙂

summer thicket Mar 30, 2021, 1:52 PM

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hazy kayak I just got my zigbee stick from electrolama. I want to install z2m on it, is it ...

https://electrolama.com/radio-docs/

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 1:54 PM

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Yes yes I know, was following that guide already😁

molten linden Mar 30, 2021, 1:55 PM

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DM me if you have any questions.

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 2:49 PM

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So, I now have the right firmware flashed on the zzh stick. I read there were multiple ways of setting up the z2m, can someone help me with what is the best setup?

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Docker

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/docker.html and use the Docker Compose option

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 2:53 PM

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It's simple?

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Depends on you, but it's not hard if you're willing to read and learn

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 2:56 PM

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Haha if you say so, I've had a HA install on docker so should't be a problem

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 2:56 PM

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Then it's largely just adding another section to your compose file

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Do you advise running it in a separate VM or just in the Ubuntu host

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Assuming you were smart enough to use one 😄

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Stick it all together, that's the joy of Docker

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 2:57 PM

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I stopped using docker and switch to homeassistant_os 😉

jolly narwhal Mar 30, 2021, 3:00 PM

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🤢

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Then you probably want the add-on

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Poor you

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I hope you feel better in the future 😛

jolly narwhal Mar 30, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Also, that still uses docker

brazen badge Mar 30, 2021, 3:04 PM

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So.. I just set up zigbee2mqtt, and while pairing the first device (a kwitset smartlock), the pairing went through, but I had the mqtt creds wrong. Fixed those, unpaired and re-paired, and the lock appears correctly, except the locked and unlocked states seem to be inverted. I just paired a second lock (Weiser) and it works as expected

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I don't know if my initial mistake somehow messed up how the states are being perceived

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Question is, is there any way to flip it back? Would this be a hardware issue, or the zigbee2mqtt integration?

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 3:08 PM

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Have you checked the Z2M docs for that device to see if there's a config option to flip the reporting?

brazen badge Mar 30, 2021, 3:08 PM

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I didn't even think of that (I think I need more coffee). I'll check that now, thanks!

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No luck, seems like it should be pretty much plug and play. I think I'll shelve it until tonight

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Would anyone be able to help me with getting Hue-thief working. I installed a fresh copy of raspbian on a pi and went through the instructions but have had no luck.

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I try running the command python3 hue-thief /dev/ttyUSB0 and get errors. I also try python3 hue-thief.py /dev/ttyUSB0 as the other command stated on the github gets a cant find hue-thief error.

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I have both a Conbee II and a HUBZ

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 3:40 PM

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sour shadow I hope you feel better in the future 😛

Haha, back then I just installed HA to test it against domoticz. HA install crashed 1 time and I remember I was error checking for hours and after that ... I switched.

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But what's the downside of using the homeassistant_OS instead of docker HA?

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 3:41 PM

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It's about you, but I prefer the control I get with Docker

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I can upgrade/downgrade/whatever when I want, no trouble at all

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Need to go back to Z2M 1.18.0, easy to do on Docker. Not easy with an add-on

jolly narwhal Mar 30, 2021, 3:42 PM

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And no forced upgrades

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 3:42 PM

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True true, I do have a backup of all the VM's that ran the older HA versions tho

jolly narwhal Mar 30, 2021, 3:42 PM

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And assumptions from devs

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 3:45 PM

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sour shadow Then you probably want the add-on

Okay you were right haha, Docker just doesn't like me

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 3:45 PM

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@fresh shard hue-thief doesn't support Conbee II, you would need to use your HUSBZB-1

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or you can reset the bulbs with a hue or ikea remote

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 3:46 PM

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Ok I tried that as well

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Yeah I dont have a remote

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 3:46 PM

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or use deconz to do a zll-reset, (think it's supported, never found the docs)

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or remove the bulbs from your hue hub if it's still around, that also resets them

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 3:46 PM

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Ok So I have Deconz installed on a different pi

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Maybe I can try that

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 3:47 PM

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newer bulbs can also be reset via power on sequence and maybe via bluetooth

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Yeah mine are not BT I know that

spice kelp Mar 30, 2021, 3:47 PM

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amber gull or use deconz to do a zll-reset, (think it's supported, never found the docs)

conbee II doesn't support the deconz touchlink reset if that's what you're referring to

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only the first gen conbee/raspbee do

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 3:47 PM

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But I tried the switch on off thing but didn't seem to work either

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 3:47 PM

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yeah, thanks, was not sure -- they have the API listed on deconz-rest for touchlink-reset, but no other instructions

spice kelp Mar 30, 2021, 3:48 PM

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the API calls work, but unfortunately not with the 2nd gen devices

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 3:48 PM

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Ok well its easy enough for me to try deconz I'll start there

spice kelp Mar 30, 2021, 3:49 PM

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i don't think there's a way to do it using deconz & conbee II

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 3:49 PM

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there's not - https://github.com/dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin/issues/3485 😫

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 3:49 PM

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Ok

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I guess I need to get Hue-thief working

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How can I tell what ttyUSB to use. I am getting USB0 Not found.

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What is supposed to happen when hue-thief does work? When I use ttyACM0 it just sits there not showing any output

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 4:10 PM

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do ls -sal /dev/serial/by-id and post the output here

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 4:16 PM

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@amber gull ```pi@raspberrypi:~/hue-thief $ ls -sal /dev/serial/by-id
total 0
0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 60 Mar 30 02:35 .
0 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 80 Mar 30 02:35 ..
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 30 02:35 usb-0658_0200-if00 -> ../../ttyACM0

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 4:19 PM

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And you have a HUSBZB-1 (you said HUBZ above) ?

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Yes

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 4:21 PM

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Never seen a HUSBZB-1 exposed at /dev/ttyACM0 before -- not sure on the enumeration rules -- I believe hue-thief might need an older bellows version

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 4:22 PM

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Sorry had to double check I'm not using the HUSBZB-1

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Just did a visual check and its a AeoTec

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I need to find my Nortek device as I do have one

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Yeah, probably something else then -- needs to be EZSP/bellows compatible

fresh shard Mar 30, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Thanks for helping me see my obvious over sight

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 4:24 PM

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find the nortek and try again -- if it still doesn't work, try hue thief in a venv with a bellows release from a year or two ago

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 4:56 PM

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I now have the z2m and mqtt broker installed, do I need to configure them?

jolly narwhal Mar 30, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Yes

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 5:12 PM

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And how xD

jolly narwhal Mar 30, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Read the docs ;-)

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Alright, where do I start :)

jolly narwhal Mar 30, 2021, 5:14 PM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/

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https://mosquitto.org/documentation/

obsidian steppe Mar 30, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Hello nice people. Anyone here using a Xiaomi Gateway that is unable to make the Electrical Wall Switches show up in HA (whereas other Xiaomi Zigbee devices may appear just fine)?

jolly narwhal Mar 30, 2021, 5:15 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/mqtt/

silver stump Mar 30, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Hey there,
I paired two ikea switch to my HA.
Is there a way to check what kind of events the switch has?

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So what I want to do is push the button and see something in HA 😄

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I tried node-red events:zha-events ... the debug node doesnt catch anything

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 5:17 PM

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zha_event

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You can also listen from the Home Assistant developers tools

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 5:17 PM

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silver stump I tried node-red events:zha-events ... the debug node doesnt catch anything

Did you enable advanced debug node?

silver stump Mar 30, 2021, 5:20 PM

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hazy kayak Did you enable advanced debug node?

I am not sure where can I check?

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Click on the debug node > 'msg:' > select 'complete msg object'

silver stump Mar 30, 2021, 5:22 PM

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I did that.

hazy kayak Mar 30, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Hmm weird, no output at all?

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 5:24 PM

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zha_event not zha-event

silver stump Mar 30, 2021, 5:26 PM

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https://imgur.com/5GXjRsO

silver stump Mar 30, 2021, 5:27 PM

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amber gull `zha_event` not `zha-event`

that is what there. I just made a typo on the chat. But thanks

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Your screenshot shows an event was generated three minutes ago?

silver stump Mar 30, 2021, 5:28 PM

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I found the issue. the messages show up at the debug tab. Sorry. I am little new to node red. Should tinker more before asking

dusty stream Mar 30, 2021, 5:47 PM

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I'm having some trouble using a ConBee II with zha. At the beggining it was working fine, but I decided to remove all zigbee devices and re-add the zha integration to re-do the setup. Now when I scan for devices, it seems to be unable to find any device at all, even after doing a factory reset on all zigbee appliances. Here are some logs that seem to be relevant: https://homeplex.tk/softbin/?e99dfce78c3845b2#7LrPsqrYE2WUVcx36Q5Eusr9ujLKvE4ctCAEv3iSTGCi

tropic depot Mar 30, 2021, 5:49 PM

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TXStatus.MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE

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did you move this? or change wifi channels or equipment

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https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-deconz/issues/140#issuecomment-718782551 has some context on that error

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do you have this on an extension cable?

dusty stream Mar 30, 2021, 5:52 PM

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I moved the ConBee II to another USB port, but I have since then already restarted the machine and also re-added the ZHA integration, otherwise, it's the same ConBee II device and also the same appliances the ones I'm trying to configure

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No, it's not on an extension cable

tropic depot Mar 30, 2021, 5:52 PM

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sure... lemme guess potentially from usb2 -> usb3 port?

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if not on an extension you are on your own

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it's a stated recommendation from the manufacturer

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for exactly this reason 🙂

dusty stream Mar 30, 2021, 5:55 PM

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From USB3 -> USB3 actually, I'm guessing a cable without USB3 capabilities would be ideal (if that's even a thing that matters for a USB extension cord), let me see if I can get one quickly and try again

tropic depot Mar 30, 2021, 5:55 PM

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I believe balloob even just tweeted a paper from Intel that explains the issue

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there is RF noise / interference from USB3 ports that screws with these radios because they are poorly shielded

dusty stream Mar 30, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Is the interference that terrible though? When the device was connected to the first USB3 port I was able to add all my devices, they just refuse to come up again after I removed them.

tropic depot Mar 30, 2021, 5:57 PM

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https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/io/universal-serial-bus/usb3-frequency-interference-paper.html

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the manufacturer won't even support you w/o one if you open a ticket

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so I say yes

dusty stream Mar 30, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Understandable, brb getting a cable

tropic depot Mar 30, 2021, 5:59 PM

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https://phoscon.de/en/conbee2/install for reference

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"Note

Connection problems may occur if the ConBee II is attached directly to the USB port or is located near USB 3.0 devices such as external hard drives or memory sticks."

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 6:00 PM

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always hear these stories with the conbee, assume it's a shielding issue, or particularly sensitive to EMF

dusty stream Mar 30, 2021, 6:03 PM

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I did read that part of the manual, but I initially disregarded it because I thought that was meant to achieve a better signal, but since most of my devices are on the same room I thought it would be able to contact those at least

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And since those devices also have routing capabilities, I assumed it would just make a route to the others

tropic depot Mar 30, 2021, 6:07 PM

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the issue you have rn is the conbee itself can't communicate correctly

dusty stream Mar 30, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Ok, now it works. I added a USB extension cord and since I had no USB2 free ports, I threw in a USB2 hub for a good measure. Not sure which of the two fixed it (perhaps both?) but it's working now.

mellow geode Mar 30, 2021, 6:23 PM

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Normally a USB extension is enough (doesn't matter if it's in a USB 2 or USB 3 port (at least that's my experience))

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 6:39 PM

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I have mine on a USB 2 extension cable in a USB 3 port 😄

fervent tiger Mar 30, 2021, 6:40 PM

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I'd like to change the power on behaviour of my Philips Hue bulbs. Based on https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/7146060PH.html I should send an MQTT command with the payload "hue_power_on_behavior": "on" or "off" or "recover". What is the easiest way to do this?

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 6:41 PM

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You may be able to do it in the Z2M UI, but if not, MQTT Explorer is an often recommended tool

fervent tiger Mar 30, 2021, 6:41 PM

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Any idea if Node-Red can do the job? Has Z2M a command line?

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Never touched NR

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And Z2M doesn't have a command line, but you can use mosquitto_pub

fervent tiger Mar 30, 2021, 6:44 PM

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I run HA OS... Is there no easier way with the tools I have?

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Sure, you can send MQTT commands directly from HA

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There's an mqtt.publish service

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And also options under the MQTT integration

fervent tiger Mar 30, 2021, 6:49 PM

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I'm not able to send pictures anymore. Is this blocked on my account?

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I try to use the mqtt.publish service. What should I enter for topic? I guess payload must be {"hue_power_on_behavior": "recover"}

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 6:55 PM

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The topic has to be the relevant topic for that device

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It tells you in the docs you linked to what to use 😉

fervent tiger Mar 30, 2021, 7:00 PM

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I used zigbee2mqtt/Lamp_zithoek_tafel/set as Topic as the FRIENDLY_NAME is Lamp_zithoek_tafel. Pressed 'Call Service' but nothing is changed...

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And as payload hue_power_on_behavior: recover

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 7:01 PM

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It would need to be JSON, not text

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{
    "hue_power_on_behavior": "recover"
}

fervent tiger Mar 30, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Topic should also be between brackets?

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 7:02 PM

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No

fervent tiger Mar 30, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Any idea why I cannot send pictures?

obsidian sandalBOT Mar 30, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images.

fervent tiger Mar 30, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Ok, it works! Thanks

shadow comet Mar 30, 2021, 7:54 PM

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Right... I plugged the new Odroid Blue in. Found it... restored to it from back up and everything is there.
Swapped the Conbee II over to Odroid and rebooted.

All my ZHA devices and integrations are still there, but nothing works...
I am assuming the Conbee is on a different /dev...

Does anyone know how to get the Odroid to play nice so I don't have to redo all my integrations? 🙂

prisma shell Mar 30, 2021, 8:19 PM

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does anyone have a favorite cheap zigbee outlet (usa), possibly with energy monitoring?

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trying to get some more routers around the house

amber gull Mar 30, 2021, 8:20 PM

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cheap, good, energy monitoring -- pick one 😂

prisma shell Mar 30, 2021, 8:22 PM

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yes those one

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🙂

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I thought i saw someone post somewhere of one that was <$10

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and did power

hollow ice Mar 30, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Hello 👋
Anyone here using Sonoff SNZB-03 motion sensor?

This sensor is spamming me with status every minute, after a few days it become very hard to load status card as there are too many records...
What am I doing wrong?

sour shadow Mar 30, 2021, 8:58 PM

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It's junk

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If you search, you'll find a bunch of people who hate theirs

sharp oriole Mar 30, 2021, 9:10 PM

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hollow ice Hello 👋 Anyone here using Sonoff SNZB-03 motion sensor? This sensor is spammin...

I have... I'm using for just a few days and noticed 2 or 3 events that it was triggered by no person.

jolly narwhal Mar 30, 2021, 9:11 PM

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So like most sonoff stuff It is shite EYEBROWS

hollow ice Mar 30, 2021, 9:12 PM

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@sharp oriole i see status change every minute :/

austere patio Mar 30, 2021, 9:15 PM

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Last I tested one they just sat there for minutes, until something triggered them

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Are you receiving motion reports or battery voltage/percentage reports?

sharp oriole Mar 30, 2021, 9:16 PM

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hollow ice <@!652983106541846528> i see status change every minute :/

I saw an youtube video that some guy was doing a DIY PIR sensor and told that in his initial setup was getting these crazy changes... He told that it was getting some interferance by ESP8266 RF signals... may be your sensor is neer by some device that could somehow generate some electromagnetic interferance to the sensor.

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or... could be a battery issue. 😄

steep pollen Mar 30, 2021, 9:18 PM

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hello I'm trying to overwrite a device type at zha
I have here an https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Busch_Jaeger_6737.html to a relais module to switch my bathroom ventilator
I got the IEEE but I'm unsure about the endpoint ID I should chose
(Zignature next bot post)
Has anybody a hint please

obsidian sandalBOT Mar 30, 2021, 9:19 PM

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@steep pollen posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MYps8Vrh7t/

hollow ice Mar 30, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Hmmm interesting, I've Sonoff humidity and temp sensor which works fine

obsidian sandalBOT Mar 30, 2021, 9:20 PM

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@steep pollen Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (text longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://paste.ubuntu.com/ (just not Pastebin).

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

sharp oriole Mar 30, 2021, 9:25 PM

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does anybody know if there is a way to expose PIR sensors and buttons created on ZHA on Alexa? My devices are working well but Alexa App is more friendly to my wife create some automations of her own. I started Home Assistant Cloud 30 days trial to test if its possible but ons TH devices/entyties are exposed to Alexa.

hollow ice Mar 30, 2021, 9:41 PM

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This is ss from HA https://iili.io/qeOTzJ.png

hollow ice Mar 30, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Btw. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/issues-with-sonoff-snzb-03-motion-sensor/237409/33 - Sonoff sensor party 🥳 😂

potent atlas Mar 30, 2021, 10:19 PM

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What do you guys recommend for zigbee pir sensors?

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Tuya vs sonoff

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Or even xaomi

dusky hill Mar 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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I'm trying to setup aqara smart cube rotations to control volume via zigbee2mqtt. are there any examples on this?

Edit: figured out using the angle was the delta needed

prisma shell Mar 31, 2021, 1:13 AM

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potent atlas What do you guys recommend for zigbee pir sensors?

I ordered a xaomi from aliexpress but haven't set it up yet

untold slate Mar 31, 2021, 1:51 AM

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for the 'zzh!' zigbee stick, why would i want the "debug adapter kit" ... something about JTAG ... do i need this?

spice kelp Mar 31, 2021, 1:54 AM

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untold slate for the 'zzh!' zigbee stick, why would i want the "debug adapter kit" ... someth...

i'd say that unless you know you need it, you probably don't

untold slate Mar 31, 2021, 1:55 AM

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well, if that is how you put new firmware on the stick ... then i'd say i need it. but i have no idea 🙂

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I've emailed the seller

spice kelp Mar 31, 2021, 2:18 AM

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no, you can flash firmware over usb. it exposes a serial console

untold slate Mar 31, 2021, 2:50 AM

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oh cool.

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i've placed the order. didnt want to risk them being out of stock again, and emailed with the question. but good to know, thanks.

hot pier Mar 31, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I have a decent amount of Zigbee light bulbs running through DEconz and whenever they are turned on by an automation, they always flash on to 100% and then immediately dim and then fade up to 100% in a second. Its rather jarring and I'd like a smoother transition.

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I have some Sylvania bulbs, some Ecosmart Bulbs and one Sengled Bulb

untold slate Mar 31, 2021, 4:12 AM

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I can imagine thats ... suboptimal 🙂

short valve Mar 31, 2021, 5:58 AM

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Is using Hue bulbs on a zigbee (conbee II) hub known to be an issue? They seem to function for a while, but I've been running into odd issues since I condensed from a ST mesh and a Hue mesh into one

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Oddly, it almost seems like shortly after I leave my home, if even only for a few minutes, the mesh collapses

jolly narwhal Mar 31, 2021, 6:01 AM

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ACOSP_What

short valve Mar 31, 2021, 6:07 AM

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The latter is.. probably a coincidence. 😉

short valve Mar 31, 2021, 6:47 AM

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okay so the only thing that seems to fix it even after restoring my zigbee config in deconz is rebooting the physical machine, even replugging the conbee ii doesn't fix the issue. Wheee USB problems..

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 8:59 AM

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Anyone with a good knowledge of ZHA ?
[10:58]
Im having trouble connecting https://zigbee.blakadder.com/SmartThings_SZ-SRN12.html This to my ZHA integration - Its supposed to be in paring mode when you connect it

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 9:12 AM

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You almost certainly will need to enable pairing mode on the device - have you done that?

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 9:14 AM

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I have no idea howto -

deft geyser Mar 31, 2021, 9:15 AM

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livid torrent Anyone with a good knowledge of ZHA ? [10:58] Im having trouble connecting https...

I'd reset it. It should pair then.

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 9:15 AM

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If I press or hold the button it will start the siren

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And theres no hole for reset or similar

shut pagoda Mar 31, 2021, 9:21 AM

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no manual to be found for that device, the old one had battery inside and pairing button next to it

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 9:22 AM

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I have the box manual - But it just writes that you have to plug it in, thats all

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 9:23 AM

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There's always a way to reset it

shut pagoda Mar 31, 2021, 9:28 AM

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hmm, there must be some way to reset it. Or could be, its not so smart thing after all, some hits for old issues but.. surprisingly challenging device 😮

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oh, heh, went to googling around and as always Tinkerer got in between 🙂

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 9:29 AM

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Yea- trying to figure out how to reset it

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Have no trouble connecting it to Zigbee2mqtt

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But funny how I can't get it to connect though ZHA integration

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 10:00 AM

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Is it possible to run with a few devices on Zigbee2mqtt and the rest in the ZHA integration?

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 10:06 AM

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If you're using multiple Zigbee sticks, and run the two meshes on separate channels, with their own routers, sure

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It's not a good choice, and it's not going to be easy to get two stable meshes though

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 10:07 AM

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Just don't like the zigbee2mqtt - But funny how its possible to add the siren with ease in zigbee2mqtt after plugging in it, but ZHA dosent find it

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And im no superuser 😄

shut pagoda Mar 31, 2021, 10:09 AM

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So umm, its paired to the other stick already then which would explain why its not visible not on the other?

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 10:12 AM

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It was the same stick I tested it with

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 10:15 AM

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The problem is, the other integration doesn't know what you paired with the other other integration

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 10:16 AM

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I deleted the Zigbee2mqtt again - So it shouldnt be a problem

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 10:16 AM

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Right, but ZHA doesn't know what you paired with Z2M

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 10:18 AM

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ohnoes, seems like 4-5 bulbs have dropped out of my mesh, this is wierd as coverage should be more then enough. 😣

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 10:19 AM

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Interference?

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Not putting the Zigbee stick on a USB extension cable?

radiant moth Mar 31, 2021, 10:19 AM

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I'd like to go the other way. I love the stability of the Sonoff ZB Bridge compared with CC2531 but prefer zigbee2mqtt to ZHA. There are couple of devs working on a Z2M integration for the Silicon Labs chips but it seems to be a way off.

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 10:20 AM

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Just by a CC2652 based stick 😛

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 10:20 AM

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Is it better than 2531

radiant moth Mar 31, 2021, 10:21 AM

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I'm a Sonoff bridge fan. Both the ZB and RF bridges have been completely flawless so far. With the CC2531, at least one unicorn would descend every few days.

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 10:22 AM

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livid torrent Is it better than 2531

Yes... you're comparing something ancient, slow, and limited to something modern - think comparing a car from the 30's to a modern top of the line car 😄

radiant moth Mar 31, 2021, 10:24 AM

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Unfortunately that modern top of the line car is only available from someone's shed, or do I have that wrong?

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 10:27 AM

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Well, it's available from multiple sheds, or direct from TI

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If you're in the US, buy from Tube. If you're in the UK, buy the ZZH. Somebody in Italy is now selling one, and of course there's always Slaesh

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 10:35 AM

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its a 6252 stick, its on a cable and litteraly 5 bulbs spread over the house just refuse to work but other bulbs in same room works. RF magic damnit! Im guessing they route thru one device that is acting wierd but Im having a hard time finding which one. One is under 1m from the stick line of sight no blocking objects. And I havent even powered up any more wierd radios the last 2 days.

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Well, guess I got my detective work cut out for the easter break! 😄

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 10:36 AM

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I'd guess interference

radiant moth Mar 31, 2021, 11:11 AM

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sour shadow If you're in the US, buy from Tube. If you're in the UK, buy the ZZH. Somebody i...

Boards from TI is a maker's solution, not for the general user/hobbyist. I'm only aware of three actual plug and play solutions for CC2652, all from community providers rather than recognised manufacturers. Or do I have that wrong? Seems crazy given how mainstream zigbree and RPi have become.

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 11:12 AM

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Ummm, sure, you can buy directly from TI and general users do

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That board is a plug and play solution, and I listed four others 😉

radiant moth Mar 31, 2021, 11:14 AM

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So I can buy https://www.ti.com/tool/LAUNCHXL-CC26X2R1 for £40 and plug it in and pair away?

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 11:14 AM

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https://www.ti.com/tool/LAUNCHXL-CC26X2R1
https://www.tindie.com/products/electrolama/zzh-cc2652r-multiprotocol-rf-stick/
https://www.tubeszb.com/product/usb_coord/11
https://www.tubeszb.com/product/cc2652_coordinator/1
https://www.tindie.com/products/gio_dot/z-bee-duo-hybrid-cc2652p-zigbee-30-adapter/
https://www.tindie.com/products/slaesh/cc2652-zigbee-coordinator-or-openthread-router/

radiant moth Mar 31, 2021, 11:14 AM

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Thank you

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 11:14 AM

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You'll have to flash firmware, but that's it

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If you're in the UK though, buy the ZZH and then some of the money goes to supporting Z2M

radiant moth Mar 31, 2021, 11:16 AM

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Thank you.

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Link to describe how to flash ZZH with zigbee has a dead #. I presume it's the same methodology as flashing a CC2531 ... have to use a TI debug board?

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 11:21 AM

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The site has been reorganised

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https://electrolama.com/radio-docs/flash-cc-bsl/

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Much easier

radiant moth Mar 31, 2021, 11:23 AM

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Wow. You can flash direct from USB. That is much easier

gentle flint Mar 31, 2021, 12:16 PM

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potent atlas Or even xaomi

Neither. Konke

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Or Centralite motion sensor, if you can find them

untold slate Mar 31, 2021, 12:32 PM

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Oooohhh the zigbee!

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Just got an email from Electrolama, confirming I don’t need the debugger thingy for firmware updates.

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Yay!

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Now pack that baby up and ship it out!!!

shut pagoda Mar 31, 2021, 12:46 PM

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i should check where my slaesh stick is going...

naive agate Mar 31, 2021, 1:00 PM

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I think I have a good 2.4gHz plan. Moved all of my Ubiquiti APs to channel 1 & 6 and my Conbee to channel 25. Kept Sonos on Channel 11 but there are only a few speakers.

Seems pretty stable so far with 20ish zigbee devices.

Is this more or less the way?

untold slate Mar 31, 2021, 1:19 PM

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shut pagoda i should check where my slaesh stick is going...

I canceled my order. The lack of communication pissed me off.

untold slate Mar 31, 2021, 1:20 PM

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naive agate I think I have a good 2.4gHz plan. Moved all of my Ubiquiti APs to channel 1 & 6...

Is Zigbee causing that much disturbance?

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 1:24 PM

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Well, yes, but no, but yes

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It's the other things causing interference with Zigbee you're trying to avoid

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Zigbee is low power, narrow bandwidth. WiFi is high power, wide bandwidth (see the pinned messages about coexistence)

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If you don't take a little care you're going to stop all over your mesh and make life painful

shut pagoda Mar 31, 2021, 1:29 PM

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untold slate I canceled my order. The lack of communication pissed me off.

i was well aware of the bad comms and slow delivery at the time of order but it was the first stick to be available and no guesstimate on zzh. March 02 ordered, Mar 13 shipped, Mar 18 some weird email. Not sure where the package is currently, DHL tracking doesn't tell much, March 26 "handed over to international logistics center" - did they just keep my parcel for two weeks? Fsck that shipping was quite expensive..

naive agate Mar 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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sour shadow It's the other things causing interference _with Zigbee_ you're trying to avoid

That is sort of what I was aiming for. As much non-interference in the 2.4gHz spectrum as possible. Most of our end user wifi devices are modern and support 5gHz but a lot of our older dumb devices are 2.4gHz.

naive agate Mar 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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sour shadow Zigbee is low power, narrow bandwidth. WiFi is high power, wide bandwidth (see t...

And thank you for pointing to the pinned messages. I had not seen those before. Will be digging in to better understand zigbee best practices 🙏

spice kelp Mar 31, 2021, 2:35 PM

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@naive agate something that i realized too late was that wifi channel numbers != zigbee channel numbers 🤦

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 2:40 PM

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anyonw else having issues with ZHA lately?

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looks like it's having trouble with talking to my CC2531 I think?
https://i.imgur.com/9qtSPXa.png

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https://i.imgur.com/NwCtOnW.png

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Hi, i've set up my z2m integration with the zzh! stick. My only problem is the lights react kinda slow, any simple fixes for this?

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I read something about an usb extension cable to not have any interference with the machine it's running on (I'm running it on an old laptop so it does have WiFi but it's turned off)

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Any help appreciated!

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 3:27 PM

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Check the Z2M logs, but interference is a good possibility

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 3:33 PM

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I dont think its RF interference at all in my case, I seem to have been hit by some sort of trådfri bug as powercycling the devices have gotten them back in proper working order, and its not only bulbs but one was a on off switch as well. Hmmmm.... ponder

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 3:34 PM

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@grand abyss That's the infamous IKEA bug -- it's a low level stack bug in the zigbee chip they use from Silicon Labs

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 3:34 PM

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grand abyss I dont think its RF interference at all in my case, I seem to have been hit by s...

I do have tradfri, could be?

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 3:35 PM

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grand abyss I dont think its RF interference at all in my case, I seem to have been hit by s...

Did you have a slow working light or something?

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 3:36 PM

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amber gull <@!164861598094196736> That's the infamous IKEA bug -- it's a low level stack bu...

yeah, had it floating in the back of my mind that I read about that somewhere once

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Yeah, we've been trying to spread the word and bug them to upgrade to Emberznet 6.7.8 or later which has the fix

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 3:38 PM

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low level, stack and chip is not words I like in sentances with the word bug 😄

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 3:42 PM

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yeah, it's not ideal -- which integration are you running?

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 3:43 PM

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So far my Ikea bulbs are behaving on Z2M - though one has a weak signal and sometimes doesn't do what it claims to have done 😄

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 3:45 PM

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amber gull yeah, it's not ideal -- which integration are you running?

Zigbee2mqtt as addon. Think it triggered when I updated yesterday and ofc persisted thru the downgrade. The chickens had abit of a dark morning today... poor things.

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 3:45 PM

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if you can limit overall network traffic and limit parent announcements, you will typically rarely/never see it

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you can enable availability/ping in z2m and that should notify when they are down -- simple power cycle brings them back

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 3:47 PM

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amber gull you can enable availability/ping in z2m and that should notify when they are dow...

Great tip thanks. I was thinking of watching the LQI but that is better.

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 3:48 PM

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hopefully sometime IKEA will eventually upgrade -- they are on a mix of 5.7 to 6.3 right now

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 3:50 PM

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If they don’t I’ll just keep (ab)using their stellar return policy for new products... they really do accept returns on 2+ year old bulbs at my local warehouse.

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Hopefully hitting new firmware 😬

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 3:52 PM

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also doesn't help for any battery powered device that is routing through the bulbs -- but if you want the chickens to not be in the dark...

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...even when the crash they typically respond to group commands

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 3:53 PM

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i keep hearing about this ikea bug, what are the devices affected and how it manifest itself this bug?

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 3:54 PM

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all ikea bulbs/controllers/plugs affected -- device will partially crash, no longer route traffic and not recover until power cycled

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 3:55 PM

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hmm

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i have 3 ikea bulbs, i wonder if this is happening to me now, i keep getting some devices down even if z2mqtt seem ok

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i never had this issue with zha

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 3:57 PM

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I have 31 ikea devices and this pulled down a random 5 of them on a restart. I think I have been hit once before so it’s not a “hair on fire” situation. Just very confusing.

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 3:58 PM

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this bug can happen on zigbee2mqtt with Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! (zzh!)

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?

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 3:58 PM

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The bug is in the Ikea devices

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 3:59 PM

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yeah, it's a network level bug -- happens independently on the ikea devices -- if they are processing a parent announcement frame when another normal frame comes in, they have a chance to crash

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Guess it’s time to make a polite letter to ikea overlords from a happy customer. Anything helps I guess.

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:00 PM

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okay how come i never noticed this on zha - Elelabs Zigbee USB Adapter?

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@grand abyss i doubt it this bug i hear is from years

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:00 PM

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We have hit them up on reddit/twitter/linkedin -- emails to their embedded engineering team too

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:01 PM

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my guess is it's just being hidden by occasional device restarts or a sparse network @ivory hound

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:01 PM

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the thing is i had zha i was helped by @amber gull when i configure it and it was rock solid

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and i said everything works so well how about i test zigbee2mqtt

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:))

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and now i have some problems

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and i guess are related to this 3 ikea bulbs

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:02 PM

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it's also possible that Z2M is trying to check up on the devices more often than ZHA was or something

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:03 PM

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happens to me on ZHA, with CC2652 coordinator -- probably 30 or 40 ikea devices, usually lose one a week or so

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Is ZHA a good alternative for z2m for the time being untill IKEA upgrades their stuff?

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:03 PM

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occasionally there will be a network event (probably flood of parent announcements) that will take out several at once

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:03 PM

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@hazy kayak ZHA is very good with proper usb coordinator

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 4:04 PM

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I'm using the zzh stick

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 4:05 PM

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It makes no difference what you use, the bug is there in the devices

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Hmm that's weird, does it also occur when connected to the IKEA hub?

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Yes, it does

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also confirmed on hue hub and deconz

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:06 PM

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important question: is it any way in zigbee2mqtt to make an ikea bulb NOT be a router

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?

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 4:06 PM

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And what are the symptoms, just going offline at random?

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Here's my network traffic for a regular day -- green is parent announcement frames, yellow is beacons -- https://imgur.com/D0ApAP5

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you can see it burst at times with parent announcements -- each of those is a chance for a crash

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 4:08 PM

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We've got like 50 bulbs switches etc and I've never had this happen to me (asside from family members who just flipped the power switch😒)

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:10 PM

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is it any way in zigbee2mqtt to make an Ikea bulb NOT be a router?

spare knoll Mar 31, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Hi! 😃
Anyone in here know if it is possible to transfer ZHA devices from one HassOS instance to another?
I'm setting up on new hardware, and will be using the same Deconz II stick, but another pi.
Probably not possible, but figured worth a shot asking! 🤞

A full backup/restore is not what i'm looking for since i have a lot of test stuff on the old instance.

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:11 PM

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i think it is via backup / restore

spare knoll Mar 31, 2021, 4:11 PM

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@ivory hound I would only wanna transfer the ZHA stuff, not all other configs, since im cleaning up a lot of test stuff 🙂

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:12 PM

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no way to not make routers route -- that's built into the protocol

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:12 PM

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damn

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ok best solution = remove 3 bulbs replace with osram

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Hue

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Not Osram - Osram are the worst 😄

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Hue is Silicon Labs now too

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 4:13 PM

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blobnauseated

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:13 PM

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i have osram bulbs yah they are not great but work

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What zigbee bulbs you guys recommend

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?

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:13 PM

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IKEA 😆

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:13 PM

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shit no 🙂

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 4:13 PM

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I'm happy with mine, and wouldn't touch Osram again if you paid me

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Might have to try the Muller Licht ones

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My experience with Gledopto is a mixed bag so far

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Though, my Innr plugs are great, maybe Innr bulbs don't suck?

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Maybe INNR or LEDVANCE as an option, no direct experience with either

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Sengled stuff has always been rock solid too, but they are not routers

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I like to buy stuff that has published firmware avaialble, so bugs like these can be (eventually) fixed

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 4:15 PM

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I'm personally not fussed by bulbs being routers, but I have other devices for that

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:16 PM

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INNR i heard they are good but very expensive

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:16 PM

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my Sengled bulbs are pretty good

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:16 PM

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@runic hazel do they route?

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:16 PM

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no - end devices

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:16 PM

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not an option then 🙂

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:17 PM

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I just added some old Phillips Hue bulbs to my network recently, but haven't noticed if they route or not

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Hue stuff does route -- gen 1, gen 2 stuff would struggle routing -- think the stuff that was using nordic or NXP, I forget which

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:18 PM

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about a month back I went from Docker/Container/HA Core+Pass Thru CC2531+ZHA to HAOS+CC2531+ZHA and everything has generally been much more stable

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which is kind of funny - because HAOS uses Docker to pass thru the device anyway

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I do still have a couple of problems -
the Tower looks like it keeps trying to boot off the CC2531 as a Flash Drive

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and right now ZHA doesn't seem to want to recognize my CC2531

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:25 PM

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one Ikea down - SMART+ LED CLASSIC E27 RGBW took his place

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looking good

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😄

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need 2 more

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:25 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/NHVRFmy.png

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anyone seen something like this?

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 4:30 PM

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no, never run supervised -- I would double check the serial pass through

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shut down,pull the stick, power back on, check the pass through mapping

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logs are just that ZHA can't talk to the stick at all

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:32 PM

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well - earlier it was throwing this complaint in my logs, too

2021-03-31 09:17:32 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha] The 'usb_path' option is deprecated, please remove it from your configuration

so I went ahead and commended that line out

zha:
  # usb_path: /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B0018E27326-if00
  database_path: /config/zigbee.db

spare knoll Mar 31, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Guess it's time to pair up everything again 😆
Could have been worse! https://imgur.com/a/0F7Orkd

naive agate Mar 31, 2021, 4:43 PM

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spare knoll Guess it's time to pair up everything again 😆 Could have been worse! https://i...

You said you have a Conbee?

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:45 PM

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@runic hazel the problem is you use /dev/serial/***

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that happen to me too

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try use /dev/ttyUSB0 or related

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see where the stick is use that

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:46 PM

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but even with that line disabled, and Debug Logs enabled, it does seem to find the right USB
https://i.imgur.com/UDOsTWv.png

spare knoll Mar 31, 2021, 4:46 PM

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naive agate You said you have a Conbee?

Yes a ConBee II stick 🙂

naive agate Mar 31, 2021, 4:48 PM

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spare knoll Yes a ConBee II stick 🙂

Nevermind.....saw you were running ZHA. My hope by running deCONZ is being able to recover from a failure easier.

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Anyone know if the backup you do in the Phoscon app is a really hardware level backup?

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That can be restored to a new stick.

spare knoll Mar 31, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Aah, switched to ZHA a year ago, since i had issues with some Ikea lights in deCONZ.

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:49 PM

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ivory hound try use /dev/ttyUSB0 or related

I'll give it a shot - but the Docs do recommend the /dev/serial/by-id/....
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha#configuration---gui:~:text=recommended to use device path

mellow geode Mar 31, 2021, 4:49 PM

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amber gull Hue is Silicon Labs now too

At least my new Hue (Silabs) bulbs are the best behaving ones for me (never had issues unlike the older non-Silabs Hues or my IKEAs)

naive agate Mar 31, 2021, 4:50 PM

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spare knoll Aah, switched to ZHA a year ago, since i had issues with some Ikea lights in deC...

I started with ZHA but like the diagnostics of deCONZ a bit better.

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Plus having it run as a separate container that doesn't disturb the mesh when restarting HA.

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 4:51 PM

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naive agate Plus having it run as a separate container that doesn't disturb the mesh when re...

would that hold true for Zigbee2MQTT as well ?

spare knoll Mar 31, 2021, 4:51 PM

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True, thats nice. Does deCONZ have the nice one click automations as well ?

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 4:52 PM

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ISTR that restarting HA won't impact the mesh - this isn't Z-Wave 😄

naive agate Mar 31, 2021, 4:53 PM

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sour shadow ISTR that restarting HA won't impact the mesh - this isn't Z-Wave 😄

That is good to know. Is that because the mesh is anchored on the controller and not in software?

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 4:53 PM

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so anyone have Ledvance Smart+ LED ZigBee Bulb with E27 Socket https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Ledvance_4058075208391.html

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any idea if is good

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sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 4:53 PM

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naive agate That is good to know. Is that because the mesh is anchored on the controller and...

I think it's just the difference in the way Zigbee and Z-Wave do things

naive agate Mar 31, 2021, 4:54 PM

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sour shadow I think it's just the difference in the way Zigbee and Z-Wave do things

Cool. I run both. 50+ z-wave devices and 20 (and growing) zigbee devices. I have definitely noticed the difference in convergence between the two.

grand abyss Mar 31, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Oh I didnt see the new dashboard in z2m until now. Wow that looks nice!

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 5:05 PM

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runic hazel I'll give it a shot - but the Docs do recommend the /dev/serial/by-id/.... https...

I tried updating the usb_path in the config to the corresponding tty (/dev/ttyACM0 from Supervisor > System tab )

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no joy

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BUT actually - there does seem to be a possible clue here

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This cycle seems to repeat around once a minute
https://i.imgur.com/Gh8h6XS.png

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21-03-31 17:04:34 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.REMOVE serial hardware /dev/ttyACM0 - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B0018E27326-if00
21-03-31 17:04:34 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.REMOVE usb hardware /dev/bus/usb/003/125
21-03-31 17:04:37 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.ADD usb hardware /dev/bus/usb/003/126
21-03-31 17:04:37 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.ADD serial hardware /dev/ttyACM0 - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B0018E27326-if00
21-03-31 17:05:36 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.REMOVE serial hardware /dev/ttyACM0 - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B0018E27326-if00
21-03-31 17:05:36 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.REMOVE usb hardware /dev/bus/usb/003/126
21-03-31 17:05:38 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.ADD usb hardware /dev/bus/usb/003/127
21-03-31 17:05:38 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.ADD serial hardware /dev/ttyACM0 - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B0018E27326-if00

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 5:07 PM

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just bought 4 Ledvance Smart+ LED ZigBee Bulb with E27 Socket RGB @ 12,4€ per bulb i think is a good dial 😄

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@runic hazel you try to do zigbee2mqtt yes?

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 5:08 PM

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currently I'm using ZHA

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 5:08 PM

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ah

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so you try to do zha on HA?

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how do you run Home Assistant?

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 5:09 PM

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it was working for many months

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yeah, I was running Docker image of HA Core for about 10 months with ZHA

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 5:10 PM

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ok docker core perfect

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 5:10 PM

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and then I just moved to a Supervised install of HAOS - which still uses Docker

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 5:10 PM

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let me ask you did you try to test some sticks recently?

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ah wait

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 5:10 PM

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nope - this is the same stick I've been using for like 9 months

ivory hound Mar 31, 2021, 5:11 PM

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i am not sure you have the same tty

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on the new instance

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double check that

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 5:11 PM

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no - these are the same device

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look at the serial device ID - they're all usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B0018E27326-if00
https://i.imgur.com/5P1N5zp.png

obsidian sandalBOT Mar 31, 2021, 5:18 PM

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@runic hazel posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K7bfqbT6yk/

runic hazel Mar 31, 2021, 5:18 PM

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shakes fist *

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Looking at Host logs

[14125.853313] usb 3-3: USB disconnect, device number 8
[14126.103505] usb 3-3: new full-speed USB device number 9 using xhci_hcd
[14126.233844] usb 3-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=16a8, bcdDevice= 0.09
[14126.233850] usb 3-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[14126.233853] usb 3-3: Product: TI CC2531 USB CDC
[14126.233856] usb 3-3: Manufacturer: Texas Instruments
[14126.233859] usb 3-3: SerialNumber: __0X00124B0018E27326
[14126.235796] cdc_acm 3-3:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[14162.324012] usb 3-3: USB disconnect, device number 9
[14162.324149] cdc_acm 3-3:1.0: failed to set dtr/rts
[14162.575058] usb 3-3: new full-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd

https://i.imgur.com/ZL6k1QG.png

If anyone has ideas on this, please ping me.
It had been working for months before it randomly stopped, but I'm gonna try reflashing the Controller Firmware when I have some time

I'm half wondering if it's spontaneously just gone bad or something, since it seems like it's just .... not responding when prompted to with dtr/rts

amber gull Mar 31, 2021, 5:42 PM

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Tube says INNR is also Silicon Labs based, just FYI

spice kelp Mar 31, 2021, 5:54 PM

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does that mean it's at risk for this issue?

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or is it just the ikea devices on old SL firmware?

molten linden Mar 31, 2021, 5:57 PM

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risk I guess it's all based on fw version and innr doesn't seem to release fw

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fwiw my ledvance bulbs overwrite their ieee address with one for ledvance so hard to say, I tried to take one apart once but it was sealed in the base pretty good and I gave up.

spice kelp Mar 31, 2021, 5:58 PM

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i'm asking as i've had trouble with a hampton bay fan controller forever and it's going through an INNR router. i'm now wondering if the router could be partially at fault

molten linden Mar 31, 2021, 5:59 PM

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I have one going through an innr router too (a plug) and haven't noticed any issues but don't use it very often either.

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(both are outside in a covered porch)

spice kelp Mar 31, 2021, 6:00 PM

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sometimes the fan just stops responding to commands, but it still keeps updating 'last seen' in ZHA

molten linden Mar 31, 2021, 6:01 PM

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I'll see what mine does from time to time.. as weather warms I'll be out there more.

spice kelp Mar 31, 2021, 6:05 PM

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very likely still the fan

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Why will my Ikea Motion sensor on ZHA not work?

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I've tried listening on ZHA_event but nothing comes up

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Has anyone tried to use the IKEA bridge as a router instead of coordinater?

prisma shell Mar 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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pretty sure it's only a coordinater

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Hmmm, what's the range of zigbee routers like lights?

prisma shell Mar 31, 2021, 7:49 PM

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same as 2.4ghz wifi I think

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it's the same frequencies

hazy kayak Mar 31, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Thanks, i'll try

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 7:53 PM

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Practical range is usually in the under 10 meter range - maybe one or two walls

livid torrent Mar 31, 2021, 8:43 PM

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What coordinator to choose? Im tired of my CC2531 - Everythings works apart from my Ikea Motion sensor in my bathroom

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Running ZHA

sour shadow Mar 31, 2021, 8:43 PM

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See the pinned messages 😉

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CC2652 based is always going to be a good choice though, even on ZHA

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For EmberZNet see https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman/issues/319 for details on the various generations

fallow warren Mar 31, 2021, 11:01 PM

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So just got my ZZH in the mail, the procedure is the same as replacing the CC2656? Just keepin the config file and its plug and play?

mellow geode Mar 31, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Flash Z-Stack before doing that

fallow warren Mar 31, 2021, 11:58 PM

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oh

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 1, 2021, 12:46 AM

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@tall canyon posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MfzVxYczh2/

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 1, 2021, 1:45 AM

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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

gentle flint Apr 1, 2021, 3:45 AM

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spare knoll Hi! 😃 Anyone in here know if it is possible to transfer ZHA devices from one H...

You would need at the very least to transfer the zigbee.db file from your config folder. If you don't transfer file in the .storage folder, then you may loose entities customization (for all devices, not just zha)

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 6:26 AM

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obsidian sandal

Make sure that your HA install sees /dev/ttyACM0 - if you're running #330990055533576204 then check that the Supervisor lists it. If it doesn't then you need to fix that first @tall canyon

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 8:05 AM

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is there a way in ZHA to link end devices to routers manually

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 8:06 AM

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Not in Zigbee at all, no

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 8:06 AM

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It made a few very strange links from endpoints to routers while there are routers allot closere by

livid torrent Apr 1, 2021, 9:23 AM

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Whould Conbee2 be a ok choice for Zigbee coordinator?

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 9:27 AM

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It works pretty nice. But i think ZHA with a nortek stick is more responsive. Atleast for me it is. need to do more tests to be sure it holds this way with more devices

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 9:28 AM

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For deCONZ it's the only choice, for everything else there's better choices

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https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman/issues/319 gives a list of some of the recommended ZHA adapter types (EmberZNet) and their ages - newer is better

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Otherwise, you can't go wrong with a CC2652 based stick for either ZHA or Z2M

livid torrent Apr 1, 2021, 9:29 AM

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Just can't find anywhere to buy a CC2652 based one

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 9:32 AM

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#zigbee-archived message

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 9:33 AM

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HI Guys I have a new sensor that has been 100% accurate on state until yesterday it is a door sensor and is reporting opposite state. So to trouble shoot i have removed it and re added the item on adding it reports correctly then 5 min later it goes to opposite state. Is there any more trouble shooting i can do i have tried open closing the door to try to resync
Aqara Door Sensor

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 9:33 AM

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And you said you used ... which integration?

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 9:33 AM

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OK this sounds very weird after removing and adding it 5 times i have noticed when i add it the sensor reports accurate state. But when i rename the entity to my system nomenclature it flips state is this possible i have no other entity with that name
Sonoff Bridge with Tasmota all my other are fine
I know your going to say leave it but i am OCD plus i need to know why changing name of entity would do thi s

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Zigbee Home Automation

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 9:58 AM

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@calm falcon when going to settings > devices > doorsensor what does it say on the left side? Does it only show one integration or 2? What i would recommend is remove the doorsensor from the bridge, then remove it on that device page if possible and just to be sure you could remove the battery from the door sensor to reset it. after that add it again. I was merging some deconz devices to ZHA and came across the fact that some how home assistant keeps the old device in the config when adding it to another integration.

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It showed 2 integrations

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 9:59 AM

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So, what motion sensors are the best for zigbee?

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 9:59 AM

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The best i have come across are philips hue

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i have a tuya one that has an error in it and has a very slow update rate

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:00 AM

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azure tinsel <@!284635805987766272> when going to settings > devices > doorsensor what does i...

HI i have removed it from Zigbee Home Automation page which removes it completely i then reboot HA check dev tools to make sure it is not there

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i have just re added it and it is reporting correctly under default entity name

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:01 AM

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azure tinsel The best i have come across are philips hue

Are they expensive?

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:01 AM

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yup

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But using normal AAA batteries and are rock solid so i would say money well spend

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and have light en temp sensor in it as well

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Yeah it's just the fact that I need like 6 of them

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:02 AM

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@calm falcon it is strange and it sounds like its linked back to the ghost entity when you change its name and getting back that state.

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does it do this with every name you pick

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:03 AM

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hazy kayak Yeah it's just the fact that I need like 6 of them

And that would be around 240 euro's 🤔

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:03 AM

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@hazy kayak Xiaomi aqara are amazing and cheap as heck

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:03 AM

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Where do you get them?

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Think I paid $7-9 each last I ordered

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:04 AM

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must admit i have everything of aqara except motion sensors

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:04 AM

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I only order from AliExpress

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I am a diamond member

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:04 AM

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azure tinsel <@!284635805987766272> it is strange and it sounds like its linked back to the g...

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ao6WCX2miTCJjKc2WGdQxQJyDUE46g?e=QJgPxb

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:04 AM

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🤣

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Haha alright, what seller? Or you just look for the best deal

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:04 AM

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i dont like the form factor of the aqara sensors

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:05 AM

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John i have several automations that run from my nomenclature

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:05 AM

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I sort by number of orders

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:05 AM

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That's a great tip

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:05 AM

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on this one i use ```Front Door
binary_sensor.front_door_sensor

Front Door Battery Sensor
sensor.front_door_sensor_battery```

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:05 AM

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And are there different models?

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:05 AM

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Yes

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There is a zb3 model just released

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:06 AM

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thorr i mean if you name it to something else then what you normally use does it still change state

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:06 AM

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If you order now you want to find that

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It is in low numbers so far I think

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:06 AM

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atx whats the update speed of aqara

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:07 AM

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azure tinsel thorr i mean if you name it to something else then what you normally use does it...

I am going to open and close several times under default names to see it is changing

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then i will change battery name do the same then change door sensor name at which point it normally flips state

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:08 AM

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@azure tinsel one minute I believe, I modded one to fast update, but just for lulz and checking the battery life

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:08 AM

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thorr please listen. change the name to something else something you havent used before and see if the state flips

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this way we can rule out that its an entity problem within Home assistant. If the state doesnt flip anymore then somewhere in the config of HA its still linked to the entityname you use

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:09 AM

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ok

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binary_sensor.testfront_door_sensor

Front Door Battery Sensor
sensor.testfront_door_sensor_battery```

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like this ?

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:10 AM

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yes

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:11 AM

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hold fire 🙂

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:12 AM

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if this holds... then the only thing i can come up with is some strange config in customize.yaml that changes the states of that entity... but im no pro user so i dont think i can be of any more assistance

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atxbyea, how does the battery holds up? I love the fact that the hue ones use normal batteries instead of the small ones

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:15 AM

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azure tinsel if this holds... then the only thing i can come up with is some strange config i...

I have nothing in customize.yml

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:15 AM

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does it flip with binary_sensor.testfront_door_sensor?

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:16 AM

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no[e working fine

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just been and checked it and it showing correct states when i open and close doors

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:19 AM

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Then something is still linked to the entity_id: binary_sensor.front_door_sensor

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does it work when you name it like that only inverted

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or doesnt it work at all

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:20 AM

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very flaky

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:20 AM

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and you have only one zigbee network?

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:20 AM

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Well no

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Without boring you i have a Sonoff Bridge with Tasmota on

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But i have a IKEA Trad Hub and i am moving all my stuff across

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:21 AM

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Then my best guess is, that it is still linked to another network somehow or atleast home assistant is thinking it is.

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I would move all other stuff to the network you want and remove the whole old network and out of home assistant

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i think that will fix your prbolem

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:22 AM

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still have 2 bulbs motion sensor and 4 drivers i need to get onto my sonoff

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i have found the odd sensor becoming unavalable over the past month about 3 of them

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:25 AM

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No issues like that with the aqara door sensor and zigbee2mqtt, even when I had three different coordinators still

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:26 AM

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I really think the 2 networks are cuising it. i have been merging zigbee allot lately and home assistant really doesnt like devices changing to other zigbee networks

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Even if i remove devices from deconz and remove it from home assistant and putting them on zha i get 2 entities linked to one device

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:27 AM

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i have the IKEA intergration in HA i do not see any Aqara sensors being picked u]

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i will move them today

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:27 AM

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and have to remove them again and pair them again to fix this

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try that first. move everything to one network and fully remove the other and see what happens

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:28 AM

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I just putting off the IKEA motion sensor and the 4 drivers for lights hope i can get them into Sonoff

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:29 AM

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It took me 45 minutes to move all my 80+ devices at the time to zigbee2mqtt

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So no need to procrastinate

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🤣

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:29 AM

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with deconz it took me 1 minute to load the backup again on another system

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but i think deconz isnt very stable

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:30 AM

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Well, this was moving from hue + Xiaomi to zigbee2mqtt only

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:30 AM

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I have ZHA i think with Sonoff Bridge with Tasmota on it been ok for me

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:30 AM

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and the devs arent listening. even got a warning on their discord for saying that zha is working better 🤣

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:30 AM

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Had already killed my trådfri bridge piece of shit

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:31 AM

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hahaha

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:31 AM

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Can i add motion and drivers with ease you think

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:31 AM

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Zigbee2mqtt>zha>deconz imo

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:31 AM

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I have a couple of things I also would like to have:

Simple battery on/off switches to turn on/of the smart lights (like the simple IKEA things)
Wall switches to make dumb lights smart (I would like to have my own front plates on them)
I don’t know if this exists but I would like an in wall switch which can turn on smart lights, so like it doesn’t switch the current on and off but it gives a signal to the Zigbee network that the switch was turned on/off (kinda like the battery on/off switch from IKEA, but in the wall and again where I can put my own front plates on them)

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:31 AM

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You lost me sorry noob

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:32 AM

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one bit of advice thorrr. sometimes when i device isnt found by zha press the pair button a couple off times

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:32 AM

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i do not have mqtt setup

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:32 AM

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@hazy kayak Xiaomi swirches, tuya wired switches with tasmota

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:32 AM

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i have added 28 items already

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:32 AM

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some times it needs to find several states and to close the interview for each state you need to pair it again

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:33 AM

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can you control the trad motion sensor better in HA

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it only has 3 setting in the ikea app

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times i mean

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:33 AM

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jolly narwhal <@567666480800333834> Xiaomi swirches, tuya wired switches with tasmota

And for the third option, also tuya?

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:34 AM

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The trådfri motion sensor is... Shite, I have mine in a box somewhere

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:34 AM

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But it controls my ikea drives for the wardrobe lights

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:34 AM

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calm falcon can you control the trad motion sensor better in HA

Yes you can if connected to a custom zigbee bridge

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:34 AM

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@hazy kayak probably yes, or just use a wireless switch on top of a box where the wires are always connected

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@calm falcon ha can do that

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With any motion sensor

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:35 AM

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@hazy kayak i have been looking for wall switches with zigbee in it for a while now

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if you find one please let me know

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Think I saw some on Blackadder @azure tinsel

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:36 AM

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which are best motion sensors?

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:36 AM

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jolly narwhal <@284635805987766272> ha can do that

You mean like just not connecting the switch to an actual light but just using the signals it gives to HA?

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Sorry wrong reply 😅

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:37 AM

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most of them are relais switches that fysically turn on and off lights that have zigbee. i want a switch thats powered with 240v and only sends a zigbee signal so i dont have batteries in my switches

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:37 AM

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azure tinsel <@!567666480800333834> i have been looking for wall switches with zigbee in it f...

Haha alright!

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:37 AM

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i have a walk in wardrobe i use motion sensor to turn on 10 lights in the open wardrobes

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then due to IKEA settings you have i think 1 min 5min or 15 min

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but would like same functionality but more control over the time

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:38 AM

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@hazy kayak yes

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I have no smart wired switches

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All my lights are controlled by ha

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Only smart bulbs, motion sensors, door sensors and a few smart wireless switches

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We use one physical switch in this house, my daughter's room

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:40 AM

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im allready saving up money to replace all the batteries in 2 years...... https://photos.app.goo.gl/hqJN5zan6M9WkrEB6

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:40 AM

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May I ask what use the door sensors have in your automations?

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:40 AM

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I have replaced two batteries so far, in... 27 months or so

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@hazy kayak lights to bathroom, lights to basement

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:41 AM

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most i bought from ali are reporting 80% without being used lol

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:41 AM

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And lights in storage room too

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:41 AM

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jolly narwhal <@567666480800333834> lights to bathroom, lights to basement

But you have like an automation which turns on the lights if it's open?

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Yes

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And if closed for 5-15 minutes

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Turn off

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Or instantaneous for my storage room

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:42 AM

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But what if you go and take a shower or something 🤔

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:42 AM

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i am going to add them today

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do i need to add ikea remote i see no point

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:42 AM

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I don't have it in the bathroom with shower yet

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Need to renovate that bathroom

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:43 AM

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same here

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:43 AM

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I have three bathrooms plus a wc

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:43 AM

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hmm not same here lol

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:43 AM

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🤣

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:43 AM

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what the heck

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But I mean won't the lights turn off if you close the door but you're showering?

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:43 AM

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Regular norwegian house, 250m2 over three floors

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Sure, but I don't have smart lights or door sensors in the shower bathroom

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:44 AM

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im still dreaming of building a new house and put every square cm into something smart

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 10:44 AM

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Sorry do i need to add ikea remote, i see no point the little round one

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:45 AM

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You can use it for whatever you want

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Via ha

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:45 AM

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jolly narwhal Sure, but I don't have smart lights or door sensors in the shower bathroom

Aaaa gotcha

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:45 AM

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not everything... im still looking for a zigbee switch to mute my girlfriend

hazy kayak Apr 1, 2021, 10:45 AM

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Tell me if you find one

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 10:46 AM

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No just kidding she is very nice to me.

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 10:50 AM

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@azure tinsel easy, RF based electric collar, broadlink mini

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EYEBROWS

mighty river Apr 1, 2021, 10:50 AM

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By this way: there are some other renamed device in zigbee2mqtt which are not found after restart, that is okay, the devices have other names but where can i find this crashed devices to fix the error message?

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Where is that error message?

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If it's in the UI with a warning triangle then that's a purely #frontend-archived thing

mighty river Apr 1, 2021, 10:54 AM

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sour shadow Where is that error message?

They are in "protocol" like Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-04-01 12:50:48: Entity 'Küche.Schrank.Dimmer' is unknown
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-04-01 12:50:48: Entity 'Kueche.Schrank.Dimmer' is unknown

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 11:03 AM

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Well, where did that come from?

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That's not even close to a valid entity_id

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 11:03 AM

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azure tinsel not everything... im still looking for a zigbee switch to mute my girlfriend

Hi John i don’t need mqtt do i ?

mighty river Apr 1, 2021, 11:34 AM

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sour shadow Well, where did that come from?

It is after restart the zigbee2mqtt than in Protokoll. The Name was a zigbee device renamed by me. Later renamed a second time. Now it is a third Name which i use. What is the rule of a vaild id?

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 11:46 AM

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Not if you ask me but atx is a big fan no doubt

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 11:48 AM

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EYEBROWS

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 12:04 PM

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mighty river It is after restart the zigbee2mqtt than in Protokoll. The Name was a zigbee dev...

Is that coming from HA's log file, from Z2M's log file, from ... ?

drifting vortex Apr 1, 2021, 12:12 PM

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Hey, got a sudden issue and I'm not really sure which channel to put in as not too sure where the problem lies, but basely my Sonoff switch has suddenly stopped working (by which I mean the actions that should happen when I press it don't)
it still appears in the Deconz web ui without error messages
It still appears when I vnc into Deconz (initially there was no green line connecting it to the controller but after I hit it's reset switch that appeared)
It is still listed as an entity in HA and it is still reporting it's battery level on my dashboard (81%)
however I have tried listening for events in the dev tab and nothing fires when I press it

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I have tried restarting the deconz docker controller and the green line has disappeared again.

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:20 PM

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The lines don't say anything. I have a few devices without lines that work just fine.

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The first thing I would do I make a new automation in the ui and put in the switch as a trigger. Pres the view yaml code and copy the device id. Then check in your automations if the data you copied is the same as in your automation

drifting vortex Apr 1, 2021, 12:25 PM

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Ok, so I deleted the switch in deconz and re-added, the automations immediately started working again

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however now it's battery status shows as unavailable

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:25 PM

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Just pair it again

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But don't remove it

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Pair it a second time with the device

drifting vortex Apr 1, 2021, 12:26 PM

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k, trying that now

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👍

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yup that did it, any thoughts on why it randomly stopped?

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or is that just something that happens

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:27 PM

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Normally these things don't happen without the user doing something

drifting vortex Apr 1, 2021, 12:28 PM

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hmm, not been in the config of either ha or deconz for weeks if not months

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just suddenly tried the switch one night when I got home and it didn't work

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:29 PM

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I can't help you with that sorry. My knowledge is limited 😅

drifting vortex Apr 1, 2021, 12:29 PM

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no problem, thanks for the input anyway, at least it's working now will see how it goes

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:29 PM

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👍

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By the way the pairing a second or even a third time can most of the times help if a device can't be found or doesn't show all features

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Some cheaper devices need to be paired allot of times to show all info or show up at all

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When I first started using zigbee I returned a few devices that to thought did not work with zha to read later on that you need to open the log while searching to see if it is found and press the pair button on the device a few times to let it fully show up.

drifting vortex Apr 1, 2021, 12:33 PM

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good to know, will definitely keep in mind if it goes wonky again

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 12:36 PM

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azure tinsel By the way the pairing a second or even a third time can most of the times help ...

I had that issue with the cc2531, but the cc1352 finishes interviews with all features in less than 5 seconds 🤣

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 12:39 PM

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Yeah, I've had no issues on a proper stick

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:43 PM

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I think some devices like the aqara wall rockers just dont show up fully. Its like they dont send all info in the first pair. But maybe it is indeed the coordinator i use. i used several but all had the same issue

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 12:43 PM

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No issues here with the wireless double rockers

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Single pair

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:44 PM

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nice

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 12:44 PM

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What coordinator are you using?

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:44 PM

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i have a nortek duo stick and a conbee2

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 12:44 PM

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PE_PandaFireTruck1

drifting vortex Apr 1, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Hope that's for the first one cos I have cb2 aswell

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 12:45 PM

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I've seen a lot of users mentioning z2m and conbee in relation to issues lately

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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what is the advantage af z2m

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compared to zha for example

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Not part of HA - upgrade when you want

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Or downgrade

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Or run it on another host

violet dagger Apr 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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or run 3 instances 😛

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Or use it with other stuff than ha

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At the same time

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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I use it with multiple HA instances too

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:48 PM

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well deconz can do the same with their software i guess. im running deconz on another system then HA atm

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 12:48 PM

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john i added all my ikea stuff to sonoff and removed ikea network

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Compared to deCONZ, it has a decent rate of updates, and you can add support for devices

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Decoupling == always good, merging 9000 services on the same system, never great

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 12:48 PM

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but i am seeing some bulbs on and cannot turn them off

violet dagger Apr 1, 2021, 12:48 PM

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to sonoff?

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 12:49 PM

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sonoff bridge

violet dagger Apr 1, 2021, 12:49 PM

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you moved them to ZHA, not sonoff

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 12:50 PM

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zha yep

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:50 PM

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if you moved them to the zha integration then i recommend to remove them again and do it a second time

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thats what fixed it for me

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 12:51 PM

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remove from zha and re add

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 12:53 PM

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If this is what you see https://photos.app.goo.gl/qiPeEmEeyDVU1yLU6

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this happens to me to when i remove a device and add it to zha. you have to press remove and do it again to get rid of the fail entity

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Dont ask me why but i guess HA doesnt really know what to do when the same device id is coming in with a different integration

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And it looks like you can remove them from a coordinator like conbee2 - deconz but i guess this platform doesnt tell HA that it has been removed so HA thinks its still valid

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The problem with platforms like deconz is that you dont get the remove button, you only get that in de zha integration. so you first need to pair it in ZHA then remove it and again pair it

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It would be nice to force remove entities but that would bring all kind of other problems i guess

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Sorted

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Only 1 item to add but i have disabled IKEA intergration

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:01 PM

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good to hear its fixed

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:02 PM

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I got motion in and the little remote not sure if it will be any use

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now somebody said to me that powered zibgee devices can be used as routers to make the network better ??

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How is this achieved ?

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:02 PM

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automatically

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:03 PM

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So i have 4 mains drivers for my ikea wardrobe lights they are now routers ?

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:03 PM

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yes

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you can go to the integratiuon page of zha and press visual tab in the top to see how things are linked

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a little wanky but you get an idea.

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:06 PM

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https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ao6WCX2miTCJjKc3gdeabuXr9JcYxA?e=2ZpAZG

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:06 PM

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oval are routers the round ones are endpoints

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the links between them can take some time

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:07 PM

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So only thing i need to do quickly is get the functionality of all my wardrobe lights working with motion sensor

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is it an easy one?

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:07 PM

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how quickly you want it is how hard you need the lights there to work

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:08 PM

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yes very it is a walk through to bathroom

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:09 PM

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for automations how to get the lights on with a motion sensor you need to be in another channel

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:09 PM

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ok

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i will try to do it before i ask

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🙂

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Cheers for help

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i wonder if i change name on front door now it breaks state 🙂

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:12 PM

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try it

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just for fun

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a question for the masters.... i have a few links in my zha network that are poor because these devices are linked to routers that are far away. There are routers closer by but for some reason the devices with poor connections are not skipping to closer routers

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will this eventually happen or do i need to pair them to get them to better routers

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I always thought devices check the connections and skip to another router if they are not good enought

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:16 PM

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Are you pairing them in their final location?

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:16 PM

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I think my problem is maybe that... i paired a router and begin pairing some endpoints. not knowing it would get stuck on the wrong router

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I have been seeing endpoints skipping to other routers though

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:17 PM

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Always pair the device where you install it

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:17 PM

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most of the time the wrong ones

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:17 PM

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Not all devices will switch after pairing initially

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:18 PM

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maybe its key to first pair all routers and then the end points i guess some endpoints are going to other routers because im adding routers?

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:19 PM

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Yep

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:19 PM

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Maybe ill try to first pair all the routers and all end points like you said on the place they will be

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:19 PM

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I paired my stuff outward like a ripple

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And first mains then battery

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:19 PM

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ok good tip

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:20 PM

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Any stuff that has come since I just pair

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:21 PM

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yeah eventually the network is so big it doesnt really matter anymore... always a router near

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:24 PM

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Exactly

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Reminds me, I need to test if I can reach my mailbox via ZigBee now

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Since I have 12 routers outside my house

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:27 PM

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hehe. I allready installed some doorsensors in mine. one to give the message you got mail when the lit is opened and one to reset it when i open the mailbox door

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:29 PM

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from last night when i removed 3 ikea bulbs from my zigbee2mqtt happy mash nothing dropped anymore :))

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1 day and going

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:29 PM

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What bulbs?

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I have about 60 IKEA bulbs in my mesh

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:30 PM

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dunno i had the 1000 lumens ones with ws

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:30 PM

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60 🤣

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:30 PM

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3 of them and only problems

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:30 PM

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100 lumens ACOSP_ExcusemeWtf

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Oh 1000

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:30 PM

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yah

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:30 PM

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azure tinsel for automations how to get the lights on with a motion sensor you need to be in ...

Can i group all these driver lights

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:31 PM

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group? for what purpose

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:31 PM

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I lied, I only have 53

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Had to count

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:32 PM

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It would be nice to have a showcase channel to show of your home 🙂

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:32 PM

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It's a mess

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:32 PM

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Because all the light need to come on every time silly to have to keep listing

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:33 PM

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Spot all my ha entities

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:33 PM

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ha

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:33 PM

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haha

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:33 PM

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that's crazy

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:33 PM

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thorr make a light group

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:34 PM

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more crazy is ikea doesn't update bad firmware in years

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:34 PM

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if you dont know how google home assistant light group

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:34 PM

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13 in that picture I think ACOSP_ExcusemeWtf

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If they are all zigbee, make a zigbee group instead of a HA group

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And use the group entity to control them all

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:34 PM

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ok

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now even im interested

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zigbee group?

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:35 PM

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me to

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:35 PM

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ZigBee group = the mesh groups certain entities

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:35 PM

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is it very geeky

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:35 PM

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That exposed a group entity to HA

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:35 PM

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will a noob we able to do it

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:35 PM

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You send commands to the group instead of 13 lights

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:36 PM

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how do u setup up a zigbee group

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please

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:36 PM

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In zigbee2mqtt easy

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For others, no idea

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:36 PM

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so i need mqtt

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:36 PM

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Only if you use zigbee2mqtt

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:36 PM

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nope

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:37 PM

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Then you don't

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Zha and decons probably support groups

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But I don't know them

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:38 PM

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yeah i have seen the option indeed.

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need to look into that

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:38 PM

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Yes, you can do this. Join all devices to ZHA. Create groups for your lights. Then go to Config > Integrations > ZHA > Devices and choose your remote.

Click "Manage Clusters" and then select the group you created and hit "Bind group" -- also a good idea to press a button on your remote at about the same time to make sure it's awak to receive the binding.

After that the remote and bulbs will talk directly and work even if HA or your Conbee are offline.

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:38 PM

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but i must say all zigbee devices are so damn fast now that it doesnt even matter that they are turned on seperately

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Groups are better for the mesh too

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Send a message 6 times instead of 68

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Etc

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I use groups per room here, and adaptive lighting controls the groups

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:40 PM

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for real? is there a way to send commands over zigbee without a coordinator

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:40 PM

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No

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 1:40 PM

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with a directly binded remote yes.

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Well yes

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:41 PM

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so i select a light in zha and bind it to a remote

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:41 PM

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Can bind the remote to the group

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:41 PM

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i could use my ikea remote i just aded

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:41 PM

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I think

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:41 PM

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and then i can control it directly

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 1:41 PM

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yes.. I think you do the remote to the group, and you pick the clusters to bind.

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:42 PM

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that would be insanely interesting!

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 1:42 PM

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yea go into the remote's device page

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pick clusters

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:43 PM

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but gives me ton of questions. like you cant save automations to your devices so on a double rocker how does the light and rocker know what button is for what light

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 1:43 PM

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and then the group binding option

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because the remotes have zigbee spec'd actions

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so they have an on/off cluster that can bind with a group and sends the standard zigbee on/off commands

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same with color and level control for setting colors and dimming

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and technically scenes as well

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:45 PM

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well im sure going to look into this. this will make life allot easier and i guess lights will react quicker when directly binded

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:46 PM

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Eh my switches are not noticeable outside instantaneous

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Going through a HA automation

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 1:46 PM

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yea it's not much difference. but if you bind directly if your coordinator is down they will still work.

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:46 PM

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Your coordinators go down?

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EYEBROWS

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 1:47 PM

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not often, but it's all about being prepared.

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:48 PM

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yes indeed and not to forget, you restarting home assistant and your girl pressing a button just at that moment

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pissing her off

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:48 PM

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I think my network has been down 40 minutes the last 2 years

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And it has been all my fault

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modCheck

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:49 PM

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@jolly narwhal all good and that but ... how do you manage that infamous Ikea bug since you have a lot of ikea bulbs?

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:50 PM

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Which?

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:51 PM

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you know routers crush and doesn't route traffic for children anymore until you power cycle the router (bulb)

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:51 PM

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Never happened here afaik

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I never noticed it atleast

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:51 PM

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thats imposible :))

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that is possible

mighty river Apr 1, 2021, 1:51 PM

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sour shadow Is that coming from HA's log file, from Z2M's log file, from ... ?

Z2M Logfile. Where can i edit or verify the HA Database?

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:51 PM

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never notice yah i can belive that

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:51 PM

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I change my lights (all the lights in my house) every five minutes

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I never see a light hanging

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And none of my battery operated devices ever stop responding either

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And none of my routers are power cycled, unless power goes out

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ACOSP_ExcusemeWtf

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:53 PM

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it depends a lot about whitch end devices you have (connected to the bulbs)

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:53 PM

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Xiaomi and Philips mostly

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:53 PM

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molten linden yes.. I think you do the remote to the group, and you pick the clusters to bind.

Can you bind the lights to the motion sensor

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:53 PM

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maybe you have a power cut per day and that's why :))

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:53 PM

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Not according to my ups logs

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:54 PM

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haha

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:54 PM

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They notice a few milliseconds of outages

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:54 PM

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what ups's you use?

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:54 PM

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Cheap powerwalker ones, was $140 for a 2200va and $70 for a 1100va

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 1:54 PM

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Depends on the clusters in the motion sensor, but I just looked at 2 of mine and didn't see the needed ones.

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 1:55 PM

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i have cyberpower they work good

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saved my ha a lot of times 🙂

jolly narwhal Apr 1, 2021, 1:55 PM

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Same boxes I think

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 1:55 PM

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I have 4 drivers running 16 lights

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they all need to come on in 1 go via motion

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 1:56 PM

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I think an automation to trigger a group

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is your best bet

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(zigbee group)

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:57 PM

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just looking in the cluster info but hot damn this looks very complicated

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 1:58 PM

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to bind a remote to a light group, you'd want to pick the on/off and level control clusters basically

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:58 PM

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i have cluster attributes, cluster commands, device bindingds, clusters

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 1:58 PM

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bindings is where you want to be.

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should have a option for picking a group and a list of clusters to check under it for a remote device.

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 1:59 PM

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the list in group bindings is the list of available commands for that switchj?

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and then select onoff

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there are 3 onoff

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 2:00 PM

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so that means it has 3 endpoints

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or 3 switches?

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each one would be for each switch

calm falcon Apr 1, 2021, 2:00 PM

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the guide says create a group so i guess it is a HA group

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:00 PM

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i have selectes the remote thats right? then select what for cluster?

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or do i leave it blank? and only select bindable devices

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 2:02 PM

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are you binding a group or a single device? there is a difference.

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if one remote to one light you do a single device binding

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:03 PM

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lets start with that

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 2:03 PM

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^ and no need to pick clusters

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:03 PM

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so cluster is for multiple devices

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 2:03 PM

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just make sure you wake the device/remote while sending the command

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group binding is multiple commands

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the other cluster stuff is for querying or sending cluster commands it's lumped in there but not involved with binding

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when I bind a remote to a light

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I usually go to the room where the light is with the remote

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and hit bind while hitting the buttons on the remote. and just repeat it until the remote starts triggering the light. (you can see if it works in the debug logs otherwise).

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:07 PM

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nothing happens when i press bind

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 2:10 PM

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you can check the logs to see (with debug for zigpy turned on) or like I said just keep repeating it for a few then check the logs if it still doesn't work. I know for my Lutron Auroras I have to click them and hit bind several times before it works. 🤷‍♂️

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 2:15 PM

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I am going to fix the UI soon hopefully

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:16 PM

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i cant seem to get it right... so i do 2 things. select a device and pres bind? https://photos.app.goo.gl/5wTGp3cgyFS3R2MZ7

ivory hound Apr 1, 2021, 2:19 PM

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my sensors battery's are rising instead of going down :))

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started from 40% one sensor and one from 60%

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now are both over 80%

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:))

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:24 PM

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raise zigpy.exceptions.DeliveryError(
zigpy.exceptions.DeliveryError: [0x1702:1:0x0006]: Message send failure

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 2:29 PM

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press a button on the remote when you issue the command

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it needs to be awake to receive the instructions

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:31 PM

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im pressing the button like a #%$@

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lol

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 2:32 PM

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what remote is it

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:32 PM

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i tried a hue remote with a hue bulb and an aqara opple switch with a hue bulb

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 2:33 PM

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the hue remote needs to be unbound from the coordinator first

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it can only be bound to one thing

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the opple should just work

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:34 PM

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ok i will try it later

frail oracle Apr 1, 2021, 2:35 PM

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azure tinsel and the devs arent listening. even got a warning on their discord for saying tha...

You sure? Because you seem to be really ignorant to reading.

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:36 PM

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im not talking to you anymore

frail oracle Apr 1, 2021, 2:36 PM

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I warned you for incorrect usage of the channels after telling you 3 times.

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:36 PM

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go to your own discord

frail oracle Apr 1, 2021, 2:36 PM

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No need to get hostile?

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Just stating facts here.

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@sour shadow am I allowed to say this?

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Let's keep it friendly please 😉

frail oracle Apr 1, 2021, 2:37 PM

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I am

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You know me

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@azure tinsel please apologize

mellow geode Apr 1, 2021, 2:37 PM

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tropic depot the hue remote needs to be unbound from the coordinator first

There’s currently a bug (puddly already did "some" research on this) that the wrong endpoint is bound at initial configuration and thus the unbind is not working (or something along those lines).

azure tinsel Apr 1, 2021, 2:37 PM

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just ban me on the deconz discor for all i care

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i didnt do anything wrong

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 2:38 PM

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mellow geode There’s currently a bug (puddly already did "some" research on this) that the wr...

znp specific? or something in ZHA itself?

mellow geode Apr 1, 2021, 2:39 PM

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I can’t remember atm. I didn’t create an issue yet. Either zigpy related or in zigpy-znp

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"So somehow the ControllerApplication.get_dst_address function for you is returning zigpy-znp's ZLL endpoint when the bind happens (2), but it returns the default endpoint (1) when the unbind happens. All of that logic is in ControllerApplication._find_endpoint, so somehow the parameters passed to this function change between the bind and unbind?" This is what he last wrote about the issue (and I’m hoping he is okay with me sending this here)

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 2:44 PM

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i'll take a peek at it this weekend if I can

frail oracle Apr 1, 2021, 2:49 PM

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azure tinsel just ban me on the deconz discor for all i care

Why would i ban you? You broke rule 2(posting wrong channel) and 5(refusing to follow instructions by a mod). You got warned for that. Now you are bad mouthing me and my mods on another server.

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Dennis, I just DM'ed John your address and he signed up a whole bunch of your neighbors for interesting magazines, (their address, but your name)

frail oracle Apr 1, 2021, 2:49 PM

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amber gull Dennis, I just DM'ed John your address and he signed up a whole bunch of your ne...

Sounds great

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 2:49 PM

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APRIL FOOLS! 😆

frail oracle Apr 1, 2021, 2:50 PM

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😂

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 2:52 PM

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Fridge went on the fritz last night at midnight (https://i.imgur.com/vMxSkqu.png) -- temperature sensor (aqara) alerted and saved the day

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Sonoff EFR32 stick just showed up

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and their ZBMINI relay -- it's tiny

mighty river Apr 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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mighty river Z2M Logfile. Where can i edit or verify the HA Database?

I fixed it by using a MQTT Explorer and search there. Changed some Nodes in NodeRed. Now it is clean.

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Is there some bug in the SONOFF stick? haven't really been following... crystal/oscillator -- not tuned to correct frequency?

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 5:01 PM

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just got an issue that it doesn't work w/ ZHA

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apparently network starts but nothing joins

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Mattsweb posted something about jacked config

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 5:01 PM

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yeah, can confirm -- tried pubilished 6.7.8 and 6.7.9 firmwares

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 5:01 PM

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and a firmware that may help

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 5:01 PM

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do you have a link to that firmware?

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 5:02 PM

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it's in an issue lemme find it

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https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/43969#issuecomment-811840742

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 5:05 PM

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yeah, already tried that one 😩

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logs look clean, just not hearing any rf/radio frames

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 5:06 PM

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how is it connected... maybe it needs the conbee treatment?

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 5:10 PM

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Tried USB3, USB3 hub, USB2 prot, USB2 port with 2M USB2 extension -- not chooching

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 5:11 PM

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chuck it

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that is why it was like 4$

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lol

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😄

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it's a shame it doesn't work...

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 5:13 PM

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I could probably grab my spectrum analyzer and see where it's actually landing frequency wise

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but probably pointless unless FW is there to fix it -- seeing that it may not required signed FW tho

tropic depot Apr 1, 2021, 5:13 PM

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of course you have one of those...

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Just this little guy for 2.4 - https://www.metageek.com/products/wi-spy/

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 5:35 PM

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My request got the “special” treatment here but this may be relevant. https://github.com/xsp1989/zigbeeFirmware/issues/2#issuecomment-811824738

spice kelp Apr 1, 2021, 5:41 PM

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anyone have door/window sensors they like better than the aqara ones?

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i'm looking to get maybe a dozen

gentle flint Apr 1, 2021, 6:11 PM

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molten linden My request got the “special” treatment here but this may be relevant. https://g...

Dunno if it got special treatment because of you or the other "commentator"

mellow geode Apr 1, 2021, 6:14 PM

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spice kelp anyone have door/window sensors they like better than the aqara ones?

The Konke ones are not bad and are Zigbee 3.0 (although they need quirks because of their "special" battery percentage reports)

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Oh, the battery mount is also a bit "weird"

amber gull Apr 1, 2021, 6:39 PM

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uhh oh -- putting the sonoff/itead stick in sniff mode on channel 15 I can see traffic

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and everything has reasonable RSSI/LQI

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 6:50 PM

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gentle flint Dunno if it got special treatment because of you or the other "commentator"

Oh I think you know.😂

marsh gulch Apr 1, 2021, 7:33 PM

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hi

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could anyone help with conbee ii and gosund plugs? plz

spice kelp Apr 1, 2021, 7:37 PM

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mellow geode Oh, the battery mount is also a bit "weird"

define "weird"

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aqara still seems significantly cheaper than konke

sour shadow Apr 1, 2021, 7:53 PM

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marsh gulch could anyone help with conbee ii and gosund plugs? plz

The integration matters far more than what stick - see the channel topic (top of the window)

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 7:59 PM

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spice kelp define "weird"

It’s on the face as a little popped out circle. You push and twist to open but it pops off pretty easily.

spice kelp Apr 1, 2021, 8:08 PM

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hmm. that actually sounds more convenient

molten linden Apr 1, 2021, 8:26 PM

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I took one apart and made it into a recessed door sensor.

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 9:26 PM

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I'm getting ready to migrate Z2M from my #330990055533576204 to #449717345808547842 . Which of these files/folders do I need to copy over to the new container I just built:

log
configuration.yml
coordinator_backup.json
database
devices
groups
state.json

I understand that there will need to be some tweaking of my configuration.yml to get it right, being that I am migrating from a Pi to a NUC

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I'm guessing i can exclude: log + database ?

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:32 PM

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my data folder has those files except not devices and groups and my database is a database.db

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why not just take all of em, provided you bring the same coordinator stick with you

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 9:33 PM

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I guess i will do that. But, i gotta ask, no devices?

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like no devices.yml ?

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:33 PM

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nothing

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go figure

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Guess I thought those were in the database

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 9:34 PM

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huh

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:34 PM

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Disclaimer: I'm just a schmo with a zigbee stick

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 9:34 PM

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ha! i hear ya

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for my #330990055533576204 config i have this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6nsYymV4nz/

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and that devices: devices.yaml line is in a lot of the sample configs i've been seeing

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:37 PM

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well, seems that's not necessary, lol. never had it on #449717345808547842

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ah, the groups and devices just end up tacked onto the configuration.yaml

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hmm, I might try to move something closer to what you have

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 9:42 PM

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Would you be willing to share your configuration.yaml ?

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:43 PM

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sure,

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TgGcTRntTx/

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looks like this

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 9:45 PM

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awesome

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ohh so that's what you meant by they just end up tacked on to the configuration.yaml

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they really are just there!

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:46 PM

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yeah, probably better to do it like yours.
seems like it would be easy for the configuration to get corrupted if it's being written to willy nilly

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or not, who knows

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 9:48 PM

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well you definitely gave me something to go with

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:49 PM

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do your groups.yaml and devices.yaml start straight away with entries or does it say groups:/devices: at the top?

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 9:50 PM

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yea straight away in my current setup