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What is that device?
How does it connect to the mesh?
but i going try make a docker container for z2m and it is not in HA anymore. more stabile
it is a icasa dim
I have the same problem, I have opened a paypal case
yo
zzh! CC2652R Multiprotocol RF Stick is in stock
i just ordered one
so who want's it now is the moment
as soon as you write it its gone 😛
well i finished my order, i said to let you know guys maybe you manage to get one
yeah i just bought from electrolama
does anyone know if its possible to add multiple ikea blinds to the CC2652R, and a control button in a group. Currently im having to use the ikea gateway just for the blinds
yeah i would like to do it at zigbee level incase ha goes down
yah tbh i dont see why you could not group them in HA
i cant even imagine the day when ha will go down :)) that's a dark day
the ikea blinds came with a repeater so if the gateway is down the up/down control button will always operate all 3 blinds together
I've had... probably 40 minutes of downtime of HA the last 2.5 years, and it was all my fault
i have not used any zigbee yet in HA only z-wave so will have to get stuck in, hopefully the groups operate a similar way
That sounds like the button is bound to the blinds 😉
thanks
im looking to get zome zigbee devices, or rather i already have some (ikea kitchen lighting) that i want to incorporate into my home assistant, wich controller is recommenden nowdays for getting zigbee controll in home assistant?
If you're runnning deCONZ you can only use Conbee. If you're running anything else, you shouldn't use Conbee 😛
conbee 2 right now is working fine with z2m 😛
🤢
And yet... it's labelled experimental for a reason 😉
i know i know
lol
if I buy CC2652R it will cost 36€ and problably some dutie taxes :S
connbee 2 is 32€
If i got dutie taxes, its 12€ + 23% over total value (shippment and item)
CC2652R seems to have the open source devs backing
I will say TI boards and z2m any day
I'd honestly still go for the CC2652R, you've got the open source community behind that, so no waiting and hoping for dresden firmware updates, and you probably won't replace the stick anytime soon
conbee 2 is the worst solution on z2mqtt
i have it it has some wierd delay
go with other ti one
is z2mqqt not an addon? cant seem to find it in the supervisor
or if i buy a zigbee usb stick, what is be best way to get it running?
It is, but you don't have to run it as an addon
how do i get it starting then? cant find any guids on the website, only for z-wave but not for getting started with zigbee
aaah cool, needed to add the repository
I have Sonoff flashed to Tasmota. Is it possible to set zigbee channel? If I can and do change it, will I have to repair devices?
https://www.digiblur.com/2020/07/how-to-use-sonoff-zigbee-bridge-with.html?showComment=1608478355756#c5504206960536015224 hints that the answer has come up here, but I cannot find the answer.
@dawn sequoia already order too
If you don't want to re-pair, you will have to try something like https://github.com/zigpy/bellows/issues/191#issuecomment-537767712 or use the backup/restore functionality and edit the channels in the JSON backup
greetings! I am having a problem with the network visualization in HA 2021.1.5. I renamed a couple of bulbs since I moved them, and the names are not changing to reflect the changes in the visualization. I did try restarting HA, but the names didn't change in the visualization map. Any ideas where i can force the visualization to refresh?
I'm guessing you're using zha?
that is correct
ok. I did a rename of the devices in addition to the entities... and the visualization map is showing correctly. apologies for the noise!
the viz uses the device names
That diff between device and entity has bitten me before.. sometime I'll remember it! 🙂
I think I'm gonna flash my $20 Thunderboard Sense 2 module with coordinator firmware. 256KB RAM
and supposedly hardware flow control
thx for info @tropic depot
Guys i have a question regarding zigbee2mqtt+mosquitto+homeAssistant: I had it all running fine, controlling some lights and wall switches. But suddenly after connecting a new gledopto light strip, homeassistant was not getting any updates for the already discovered devices. I tried to mess around a bit with various settings and ended up deleting the MQTT integration in HomeAssistant. Then a re-added MQTT integration pointing to the MQTT Server (mosquitto HA Addon), which I saw in the log of the mosquitto server (new client connected etc...) But still after restarting home assistant and waiting there were no more mqtt devices found. I then restarted the zigbee2mqtt addon and again checked the logs. Both the logs of zigbee2mqtt and the mosquitto server show that the connection was successful. In the zigbee2mqtt log i also can see when states change of door sensors / temperature and stuff and i can even control them via the integrated frontend. I think somehow the zigbee2mqtt cannot send, or mosquitto server cannot receive the states of the connected devices. Is there anyway to check this? I downloaded a mqtt explorer application and connected it to the mosquitto server. But i did not see any messages.
The map takes sometime to be updated. Normally when i change something I would wait some 24 hours to be certain that the map is showing what it is
Something else i just tested is to listen to and publish messages using the FrontEnd of the MQTT Integration page in HomeAssistant: Topic: home-assistant/switch/1/power Payload: ON Liston on "#". But i can't see anything happening..
I see that the Aqara magic cube has a double tap automation trigger with deconz but it doesn't seem to be available using ZHA. Can anyone confirm if I'm understanding that correctly?
let us know how it goes!
thee thunderboard dont have zigbee right?
it has. zigbee, bluetooth, etc. depending on the firmware
I think the chip that is on your sonoff bridge also supports the same radio technologies (yep, bluetooth too)
oh, but I think you can only use the radio for one protocol! you cant have zigbee and bluetooth working at the same time
but it is an older cpu, right?
Efr32mg12p332f1024gl125, i think that's still 1 series, so no sub-ghz radio and clocked at 40MHz. Slower than series 2, but husbzb1 runs at 24MHz with 32,(kb ram
Systems on a Chip (sistemas em chip) RF - SoC Mighty Gecko SoC BGA125 2.4 G 10 dB mesh multi-protocol 1024 kB 256 kB (RAM) 65GPIO
v1 ?
Yes, MG1. I guess v2 are mg2x. Not really versions
ARM Cortex M4 ?! this is not v2? I see somewhere the v1 have M33
the Efr32mg12p332f1024gl125 have M4
And mg1b has A3. Still is MG1 series. Series are not really versions.
szb uses the EFR32MG21
ARM Cortex®-M4
Up to 40 MHz Clock Speed
Low Active Mode Current: 70 µA/MHz
1024 kB of Programmable Flash
256 kB RAM SRAM
series 1 are modules are getting harder to get.
Zigbee and Thread Radio:
2.4 GHz IEEE 802.15.4
250 kbps O-QPSK DSSS
Down to -105 dBm Receive Sensitivity
Up to +17 dBm Programmable Output Power
10.8 mA RX current
10.0 mA Active-mode TX at 0 dBm
I've gone down this rabbit hole the series 2 are 20dBm Series 1 are 17.
biggest difference beyond cpu speed and ram, is series2 have the security hw
Yep, mg2 have more capabilities to lock the firmware, so doesnt really matter if you oublish the firmware or concerned about anyone connecting a debugger to your coordinator
And faster clock.
Can't get hw flow control working. Schematic says it is connected
Not sure if this is the right spot or not... I've got a ConBee II, ZHA and a few Sengled Z01-A19NAE26 dimmable bulbs. Everthing was good for about a week or so, now one of my bulbs seems to be stuck on.
No matter what I do within HA, one bulb in a 3-bulb fixture stays on at the same brightness & color temp. The only way to turn it off is to flip the old-school dumb toggle switch that it's still wired to.
I haven't a clue where to begin to try trouble shooting the problem. All hints welcome
are you using a group?
The instructions with the bulb say to toggle power "at least" 10 times with a wall switch and that should reset it. 5 flashes of the bulb indicates that it's reset. I haven't managed to get it to reset yet.
Yes, I am. It's in a group of 3 bulbs in the fixture
ZHA group right?
looking at
it says the bulb state is unavailable
Yes, it would have to be a ZHA group - I've never even installed the Sengled app.
the sengled on / off
10x works... it's a timing thing
you have to do it fairly quickly
I was doing it about as fast as I could flip the switch. Then I thought that might be too fast, so I tried a bit slower, then much slower like 1 sec on, 1 sec off.
but the light actually has to go on and off... if any of them are too fast and the power cut doesn't register it wont work
yes
Trying to rescan from ZHA for new devices won't do the trick, eh?
Would it be worth commenting the group out of config.yaml to see if it can be addressed on its own?
should the power toggle end with power on or off? I've tried both to no success
What is the diffrence between Zigbee and MQTT?
There's Zigbee2MQTT and idk what is it
Whew! I put the bulb in my office fixture which is next to the computer to make it easier to chat, search, etc.
@mighty river call google
Only problem is the office has a dumb dimmer switch with on/off toggle. I think it wasn't quite turning off. I put the bulb back in the kitchen with a simple, dumb 3-way switch & the 10x off/on worked a treat.
I got the 5 flashes, went into ZHA and was able to readd the bulb.
Thanks, @tropic depot
Anyone using hue outdoor motion sensors for motion, lux and temperature? Do they also do humidity? Any good?
(I'm using them with a ZZH stick and ZHA) They don't do humidity. Lux is ok, motion has a nice 10 seconds timeout (can be changed, sensitivity can also be changed) and temperature sometimes seems to be about 1°C off but I'm not sure
Okay sweet, thanks :)
Has anyone gotten the Iris keypads (aka Centralite 3405) working with Home Assistant? I was able to get them to pair, but they just show up with an ias zone and temperature sensor.
ZHA?
Yes
Ahhh darn, haha. Are you the dev for ZHA?
one of them
Oo cool! Well, thanks for the work you do on the project!
Do you happen to know if it's working in mqtt?
Ok coo, I'll take a look. Thank you!
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Apologies 😦
Zigbee2MQTT is a Zigbee gateway that uses MQTT to communicate with HA and supports a range of TI chipset based controllers. Our #zigbee-archived channel is a good place to ask about using it with Home Assistant, but they also have their own Discord server.
I'd likely suggest their Discord as a better place to work out why that's sulky, but before you do... have you tried resetting the stick?
Push the button on it, while it's connected, and that should reset it if it's locked up/stuck
Thanks, ill drop them a message. I moved from CC2531 and ZZH has been nothing but problems
Ill also try the reset
I've done that move, and it's been plain sailing, so there's hope yet 😉
The pre 2021 firmware does have known issues though
If you didn't already update it, do that now
Reset has unlocked the starting issue (Which actually wasnt my original issue before i posted)
Now that it's back working none of my devices will function
The more common issue im seeing is MAC transaction expired' (240)
They probably need you to operate/wake them so they report in
If things have been disconnected for long enough they're not trying now
Its the latest firmware. Only received the stick 2 days ago
I get no response from my ikea dimmer
Are we talking about zigbee2mqtt firmware? If so i downloaded latest and flashed it
ZZH doesnt come preloaded
Well, the coordinator firmware, yes
Yes, in that case it's latest
greetings! after i renamed the device and entity for a couple of bulbs, I am getting a message as follows:
ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.emulated_hue.hue_api] Entity not found: light.buddies_light
which would be correct since i renamed buddies_light to laundry_room. Anyone know how I can find where this is referenced? I have done a restart of HASS since I did the rename. this is zha on HA 2021.1.5.
ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.emulated_hue.hue_api] Entity not found: light.buddies_light
emulated hue maintains a json file of things, that might still have the entries somewhere
ok, thanks
do i need to edit the json file and make sure all get renumbered? or is there a 'correct' way to do it within HASS?
following up the change above with a HASS restart?
Your guess is as good as mine. sounds like you should probably backup those files 😆
thanks!
I have a few ikea on/off buttons that keep dropping of my zha network. They are directly paired to the coordinator. What could be the cause of this?
@analog ember I had similar issues with pairing of the IKEA on/off switch and it also dropping off my network periodically. Puddly had me try the following in my configuraion.yaml, which also requires downloading his custom component (follow the URL):
#For IKEA Tradfri compatibility from puddly (see https://github.com/walthowd/ha-constant-modifier)
constant_modifier:
zigpy_znp.zigbee.application:
DEVICE_JOIN_MAX_DELAY: 6
This stabilized the situation for me
In my case, after adding this entry to my config, I had to completely remove and re-add my IKEA on/off switch one more time, and since then, everything is flawless
This example also assumes you are using zigpy_znp. If you are using a different library (depending on what type of coordinator you have), you may have to adjust it to your needs.
It would be good to know what coordinator you're using
Oh sorry, using the Sonoff zbbridge with tasmota
Sound great! I'll take a look at it. Not sure what library I'm using, default one for the sonoff zbbridge + tasmota
that's gonna be bellows. I'm not sure of a similar option there. but there are a lot of options
Hmm, does someone know what I need to modify then?
And if that could be a possible solution
Tiergrotten's solution isn't gonna work for you. I know that on another EZSP based coordinator (chip similar to the one in Sonoffs bridge basically), the default firmware had issues keeping end devices on the coordinator due to some timeout.
Perhaps there's a difference depending on which version of EmberZNet your bridge is on. Just guessing though
Aha, could updating EmberZNet help?
@analog ember Just want to add that in my case, one of the core problems was that the IKEA devices never really properly joined the network due to the default 2 second max join delay in ZNP being too short for those devices. So the devices would either not pair at all or not all clusters would be discovered/work (i.e. battery percentage would be missing etc.), and they would often disappear completely from my network overnight. So puddly had me override/increase the timeout, and then the IKEA devices had enough time for the proper sequence of 1) receiving network key 2) announcing themselves 3) being joined to network. This was all very specific to zigpny_znp and TI chipsets. But it is conceivable that your EZSP based coordinator also doesn't wait long enough. But that is where my limited knowledge stops.
Ahh that makes sense. Is there a way to find out where the issue is? Seems like my devices join the network fine, work for 1-2 days and then just go to offline.
It also seems it might be the remotes only directly connected to the coordinator
I've another one that's paired to a router that never drops op the network
I haven't used it in a while, but I think EZSP firmware only notifies you of a device announcement, not the initial join. This specific "fix" wouldn't really be applicable, since bellows doesn't do anything special to handle devices that join but wait too long to announce themselves.
Today, one of my Philips Hue Calla (ZLL: the older ones with no Bluetooth and no attribute reporting) was unavailable for many hours.
I tried reading attributes and it always failed. However, I was still able to toggle on and off the Zigbee group it was in (and it would also change color + toggle).
When restarting Home Assistant, it instantly came back though.
So, is there anything special ZHA/Home Assistant does on startup so the light starts responding to unicasts again?
Which radio was this?
TI coordinator
ZZH
Here, it also happened. Most of the time they come back after a short while.
Radio lib issues a coordinator reset, that's about it. If the next time it happens maybe see if unplugging the stick works?
But this time they were already unavailable for 9 hours. Restarting Home Assistsnt instantly got them back.
Will try to do that.
The pre 2021 firmware has a known stability bug on that stick
I have the latest one (with the "lockup/crash fix")
Bought a new Ikea trådfri e27 CWS (806 lumen) with the new remote. Seems that the bulb has already paired with the remote. Did not yet has time to pair IT with Zigbee2mqtt. The bulb seems to be already supported, but how about the new remote?
sometime ago i had this kind of messages in log:
2021-03-13 19:59:10 ERROR (MainThread) [zigpy.device] Failed to parse message (b'81840113') on cluster 32799, because Data is too short to contain 1 bytes
turned out they were from my osram bulbs, one day they just disappeared after many bug reports and stuff and now they are back, just restarted and they are back
anyone knows if anything changed that made this reappear?
ZHA is used
Can everyone please stop talking about zzh bugs?
I just got 2 and you are making me very worried 🤣
I'm not having issues with mine
Phew
:))
I did have to upgrade to the 2021 firmware, but that's been it so far
i'll switch to zigbee2mqtt soon just to give it a try
Didn't you earlier say you didn't have any? Or did you got that to most recent stock?
ah! I have exactly that issue during startup, but haven't cared enough to check why or what device causes it
yah the wierd part is
i had this error long time ago
it disappeared
and today out of the blue is back
Could you maybe tell me how to upgrade the zzh firmware when using z2m. or is it just installing like the first time?
Make sure to do a NVRAM backup if you're using ZHA
But otherwise yes, it's the same thing
The process never changes really
I've been seeing it for a few weeks now
I'm getting a could not open port, permission denied. When trying to flash my zzh! stick. What can be the cause of this?
What OS are you flashing on?
Well, that's new... I've never had an issue with using my normal account 
Hmm, seems like when just trying it 2 more times it works. flash was succesfull
It was out of stock for 2 months, but now they are restocking more often (smaller batches)
Yeah i recall you missed one from which i got. I also got message from slaesh the package is on the way, took a moment but nothing considerably bad especially when it was made clear in advance
been a week still no shidding updates here
Apparently my Tuya (Zigbee 3.0) dimmable controller has a color cluster.
It does report None for color_capabilities but Home Assistant still shows an RGB color wheel (no color temperature slider though).
A quirk could surely fix this but should ZHA even assume it has RGB if it doesn't report any color_capabilities?
Mar 2 was the order date and today i got tracking number, not exactly fast but given the previous comments this doesn't seem too bad either
As for zzh Mar 6 ordered, Mar 9 tracking code
you got both, neato
i mean for me it gets quicker after its finally on the post office
Hi, I notice when a zigbee device goes unavailable on the ZHA map, it doesn't immediately look much different, and I need to zoom in to see the text and then notice the text "unavailable" ... just wondering if making the circle look different would be a really quick and obvious way .. here's a mock up example .... https://imgur.com/a/86G7yP8
As you can see, when I load the map, I don't see any of the text as default anyway. As, I guess, most of us don't?
Does someone have a link to the zigbee2mqtt coordinator firmware release notes? Can't seem to find them and was wondering what's fixed in the 2021 version
It's a ZDO response, convert to hex and lookup zdo command for that hex
Per specs, all ZCL devices must support at least xy_colors, or something like that, even if not set in color_capabilities attribute
Also click through to the sdk release notes to see what’s there
Ah, I see. Guess I’ll just submit a quirk at some point (https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/818)
greetings! I am having wierdness with my zigbee lights that started recently(past couple of days). I have set the zigbee channel to 26 in configuration.yaml, and also turned on the debugging as indicated by the troubleshoot section on the Home assistant ZHA page. I am currently using HA core 2021.1.5 and a HZBUSB1 stick for zigbee access to the lights I have set up. Any ideas what I need to look for in the logs specifically? There's alot of info in the log.
define weirdness
the lights will turn off, but stay lighted according to HA, and when turned off again, they don't reflect the change... I hit the switch fast enough, I can turn them on immediately after i turn them off. I have 6 hue bulbs connected and the visualizer shows them meshing with others.
Hello, Today I would like to change from Xiaomi HUB to CC2351 Zigbee stick.
First of all I would like to try out ZHA Integration, but after adding it into Integrations and selecting the USB what is actually see its a CC2351 Stick, but it does not stop loading.
It stucks since 10 minutes: https://imgur.com/l8p1hlZ
I have tried reconfiguring the devices, to no avail
side question: the lines connecting zigbee devices in the visualizer and different colors, I am assuming that is the 'strength' of the signals between those devices. Is there a place that defines what the values are for those connections?
is this maybe a sign the HZBUSB is starting to fail ?
Hello, I would like to install my first Sonoff CC2531 Stick and try to use with ZHA or Zigbee2mqtt, but none of them works. Zigbee2Mqtt drops this error log:
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-03-14 19:00:12: Error: AREQ - ZDO - stateChangeInd after 60000ms
at Timeout._onTimeout (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/utils/waitress.js:46:35)
at listOnTimeout (internal/timers.js:554:17)
at processTimers (internal/timers.js:497:7)
npm ERR! code ELIFECYCLE
npm ERR! errno 1
npm ERR! zigbee2mqtt@1.18.1 start: `node index.js`
npm ERR! Exit status 1
npm ERR!
Is the stick detected?
Have you tried re-flashing the firmware in case it was corrupt?
Yes it is detected by ZHA as /dev/ttyACM0
I didnt tried anything about flashing, I does not have yet experience with that, this is why I bought pre-flashed one.
2021-03-14T18:09:27.246Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter Failed to validate path: 'Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT'
I enabled zigbee-herdsman debug.
Are there any recommendations for zigbee bulbs which are good reliable repeaters ? Using with ZHA
BR30
https://pastebin.com/KkXCp8Br
My debug Log
I have 5 Ledvance ones (sold in US by sylyvania) that have never caused any issues for me.
There is maybe anyone who have some knowledge and willing to help with that case?
or if I could use ZHA that would be also a solution for me.
What firmware is on it
and you really shouldn’t do anything other than tinker with 2531’s
They aren’t great
Zoom in and you can see the LQI and RSSI #’s on the lines
Anyhow that was the answer from nearly everybody when earlier I was asking from here what to buy.
I dont know about whats on it.
you have to make sure you have a coordinator firmware on it
Zigbee2mqtt docs are great for this
Yeah that’s not something I’d use personally
Especially with the onboard antenna
I'll buy a ConbeeII, it its working but I wanted to test this whole Zigbee stuff inside HA, because it looks a newbie stuff for me to be honest.
that is why I started with this cheap stufff.
than what is great?
because that two what everybody said here.
about 20 people told me that.
thats the best on the market, they said.
CC26XX and CC1352p2 are great alternatives
The zzh is in stock I think
I dont know what should I do. really
I have here the stick what is discovered automaticly by HA in ZHA integration.
after I put here a few device, I try to put them into pairing mode but nothing happens.
The CC2531 is known to be .... crappy
Sometimes you'll just have to pull the stick for 30 seconds for it to recover from being locked up
Sometimes you have to restart Z2M/HA so that it sees the stick again
Get a tube gateway
Anything running a current generation chip is good
Atleast it looks great
I have 3 of the routers now
And a limited pro EZSP gateway
works phenomenally well
Tink are we allowed to post links to users stores? What are the rules for that?
Cole -> https://www.tubeszb.com these are made by one of the users here. They work well
Perfect, looks good mate. Thank you.
Anyhow I checked my stick.
when I plug in it starts blinking green for 5 second about
after it turns red for half a minute blinking rapidly
after all LED is gone.
I was trying to put devices into pairing mode while the whole LED blinking stuff and also after.
Nothing showed up in the discovery.
There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:
deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are support. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).
zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).
Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.
woohoo!
Thanks dude
I will be posting some coordinator inventory later tonight. have some pre-spoken for need to account for. my Ethernet board order came early, screwed up my timing though as now I'm out of PCBs.. (but I ordered more of those last week).
OK, then I put it to the trash.
looks like not worth to trying.
Anyhow, there is anybody who can help me with at least start Zigbee2Mqtt addon?
I have this issue.
since I added an USB extender between Raspberry Pi and the Dongle it became only green.
Finally!!! Zigbee2Mqtt is up.
now just need to use it somehow 😄
finally was able to add a device! the problem was I put the stick into Raspberry.
it only works with USB extender cable.
Is there a way to find out which device is throwing this error? I'm using ZHA.
Failed to parse message (b'194c2403fe') on cluster 61184, because Data is too short to contain 1 bytes
That is interesting, your CC2531 also appears to have gotten "stuck" during startup or during network formation. Looks like the same issue @wispy plank was experiencing with his CC2531.
You have to put USB extender and everything works
Yes. Would be interesting to know if he is also using a Pi without a USB extender.
Enabling debug logging would add more context: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#debug-logging
any idea how to unpair a Xaomi aqara D1 switch (no neutral)? I removed it from z2m with the intention of repairing to improve netwok map
cant get it to pair now
Yes, I was using a Pi without the extender with the CC2531
That seems to be a common combination
Pi + any zigbee stick without a extender = bad time
Is this specifically a Pi thing or all devices? I only ask because I just ordered a new system to use that isn’t a Pi
Should probably just use one to be safe haha
extender is always good policy
Also I ended up getting a zzh before they went out of stock 🙂
How long of an extender is needed?
I think anything is better than nothing with the pi
The other thing to think about is that 2.4 GHz is used by your microwave because it's absorbed well by water. Humans are large bags of water...
Moving the stick above head height is handy 😉
My stick was directly next to two Pis and the router, I don’t know why I didn’t think of that haha
It was previously working though
Would explain why it got locked up during network formation though
sadly you are us based...
Just pay the customs fee and wait a while 😄
its too much for me to even consider ahhaha
shipping is 18 bucks
and i cant use google pay
google pay shouldn't be the only option.. it's Square they except everything (well I don't pay for the level to get paypal too).
but this is off topic, so DM if you have any questions.
Hi! any people with a raspbee 2 module (no usb) , can't get it to work with ZHA already read the discussions on the forum without luck 😦
WARNING (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] No response to 'Command.device_state' command with seq id '0x02'
Is there any reason not to get another CC2531 as a router? Reason I ask is because I am looking at AliExpress and there is an option for CC2450
Cc2531 forms a good router. See if you get an antenna one. Cc540 is bluetooth
thanks man!
Still waiting for my CC2652RB stick from slae. I ordered 2 weeks ago, but still not shipped..
Hi! Do you guys have any recommendations of a Zigbee device replacing a Shelly 1 and 2.5?
For 230V
Also ordered mine there. Hopefully it will not take that long.
Lol
hehehe
Anyone knows if I'm able to move from ZHA to Zigbee2Mqtt, using the same (supported) stick , without having to re-pair all zigbee devices?
I walked that path, but needed to repair all devices.
Using a conbee II now, and while it works good, I'm having some signal issues. Thats why I bought the new 2652B.
we have had users report issues with conbee and z2m
so I would recommend against it
but if you are migrating to a new stick anyway
Willing to move Zigbee2Mqtt for further device support. I'm having about 40 devices now, but my newest arrivals from Tuya are not working properly on ZHA, and I can't get around with creating new quirks. While they are confirmed working in Z2M
repairing needs to be done
exacttly. So probably I'll wait until the new stick
I use now cc2531 and I moved from ZHA to z2m. Now I wait for the cc2652rb and I hope I can just switch the stick
With a different panid I believe
Interestingly these people said you don't have to repair
But I don't believe it
😄
If you're just swapping sticks with another of the same type you can do that
I've done that before
that was my impression too, if they are the same chipset
Looks like you can do it on TI sticks with the right firmware too
Will Zigbee devices ever look for a better connection, or are they "stuck" to whatever they connected to when first paired?
Depends on many things - Xiaomi devices on a Zigbee 1.2 mesh don't seem to ever do that. On a Zigbee 3.0 mesh I've seen it happen
Other brands may be better/worse
I ordered the slaesh stick. Regretting that.
How would I find out what kind of mesh I have? Is it defined by the stick in my RPI? Or is it per device?
But what if the endpoints (of which I have mainly Aqara) don't support it?
Ah yes, sorry
I should order some of those ZB3 xiaomi devices
The T1 devices are damned hard to get
The only one you can reliably get is the Mijia light sensor
you can stumble on the motion sensor
I keep trying, but no luck so far 😬
Mind you, better for my bank balance... I'll be ordering a shed load of stuff once they're properly released
https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Aqara_RTCGQ12LM.html there's this
Ordered the light sensor
Yeah, but that's not the 12 it links to, but the 11 
I've found the light sensor to be pretty much as good as my Z-Wave light sensors, enough that those will be removed in the future and replaced with the Xiaomi ones 😄
any of you guys have a connect with the slae.sh guy?
Site says “don’t email, go to telegram” .... he logged in last over a month ago
I want to cancel my order
You should search here, the Z2M Discord, the HA forum, and have a look at his Tindie store feedback 😉
TL/DR: You are not alone
That bad eh.
There's a reason I edited the bot message to warn folks
Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller),
Yeah
try again 😛 you should know better not to trust aliexpress descriptions
At least some are getting through eventually
open customer reviews instead
I might just contact PayPal and ask them to cancel the transaction for lack of delivery
It’s been a week and I’ve heard nothing
He writes they’re not Amazon .... but anybody who hasn’t mailed it out after a week, is just taking a piss.
TBH his communication has always sucked
I ordered from the first batch, and it was bad then
Not all of us feel the need to over-compensate 😛
they're easier to plug in
Is the cc2531 USB using Zigbee 1.2?
It supports both 1.2 and 3.0 firmware
but nobody should be running it
unless you are using it as a router
yeah, it's an old throwaway I got from my brother to get started
Any recommendations? I'm looking at https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_adapters.html but I can see you guys talking about the Slaeck's thing
slaesh is not recommended anymore, because of bad communications and shipping issues
Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant - that you guys were talking about that just before
I'm located in Europe, and seemingly, the other recommendation (zzh) isn't sold anywhere
There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:
deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are support. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).
zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).
Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.
lists the recommend options
Sadly, Denmark requires excessive taxes and fees when things arrive from outside Europe
@thick plover zigbee2mqtt, none of this nonsense propitary hubs 
which is why I was hoping there'd be a reseller on the continent
norway has 25% tax on all items from anywhere
Denmark has 25% + % depending on item type + €20 fee 😦
aliexpress has an agreement with norwegian customs, so that tax is added at checkout, but for ebay etc I just get them to mark it with $1 value
and no issues
No wonder I found Norway expensive even coming from isolated Australia. I thought we got ripped off here...
Hmm, the zzh actually seems to ship from UK ... but of course, I have no idea how it works post-Brexit
oh wait, it's sold out anyway
Lol I was going to say...
Our iron ore production doesn’t help either
AUD80k a year isn't an unreasonable salary @thick plover
as such we pay more for living
gogole says AUD 98k, but that seems really high to me
Wow individual or household?
Crazy, higher than our average household
I do twice that though 🤣
What’s a 3 bedroom apartment in Oslo go for?
Only idiots live in oslo 🤣
Just trying to compare to Sydney
If I had it my way I’d be in the bush living off the grid (to a point), but if you want to money you’re kind of stuck with a city
Same as inner Sydney then
I paid AUD320k for my 252m2 house 50km outside oslo

I was imagining a very derelict house
I bought 12 years ago though, the price now is probably closer to AUD600k
I paid 1.2m for a 130m2 3 bedroom apartment and the prices keep ballooning here
ouch
I think we are up there with London, New York, Vancouver and Hong Kong as far as property prices go
Yeah, I will never live in a city, currently I'm looking at moving north, and somewhere far outside a city, can probably get a 400m2 house for AUD400k, I can work from anywhere as long a I can get to the airport and have internet
Awesome - how far north? I did Lofoten When I visited, not sure I could do that isolated tho. 1 hour from a big centre or city would be ideal for me
You could buy a single-propeller plane every year if you moved!
I was born.... 7-8 hours north of lofoten, so thereabouts
Wow - Svalbard? Haha
I came in to ask about Zigbee devices, and ended up at looking for used planes in Australia
Hahahahaha
that's how it usually ends up in here
All roads lead to used 1979 Cessna?
Pay a little more for a Cessna Caravan so you can cart a larger load
Zigbee2mqtt - now I have some reading to do
Any good resources to catch me up on it?
I had a collegue who worked in Canada, he had his own seaplane
because he had to reach downed servers in 4 hours
kept the spare part stock at his garage
@thick plover https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/
Awesome - my brother in law is somewhere deep in the Yukon of Canada at the moment. He is a specialist electrician and they flew him up there for a 1 day job, plus 14 days isolation for COVID before he could do the work.
So with this old cc2531, could I just plug it in a USB wall plug to use it as a router?
When you have flashed it with a router firmware yes
and paired it with your coordinator
Ah, and to flash, I'd need that special hardware, right?
You need either the debugger device
or a raspberry pi
with jumper wires
maybe even a ESP device can do it
I think
Ok so this platform essentially makes my hue hub redundant - what about SmartThings for Z-Wave?
I have some door sensors that use that
there is zwave2mqttjs for that
requires a zwave stick, I use a aeotec gen5 stick for that
Awesome
I only have 3 zwave devices because I bought it before I saw zigbee
so I don't use it
4x zigbee devices for the price of a zwave device
oh shit, I always though zigbee and z-wave were interchangeable words for the same thing
no

Bed time here - enjoy your day fellas - will be reading up on all of this tomorrow and no doubt be hiding packages turning up from my wife
It's safe to assume that the zzh is made outside EU, right? Couldn't find anything about it on their website
its in UK I think
Yeah, it's shipped from UK, but are the components made in the UK? Apparently it matters for tolls
It's "made in the UK"
The components will come from wherever he sources them
Odds of them all being from the UK, or Europe, are "not high"
Ok - sadly, it's on the recipient to prove that they're made in the UK to avoid tolls.
The Tindie page says
This product was designed and manufactured by the inventor
Electrolama in United Kingdom
Trouble is, who knows what counts as "proof"
Found some mentions of Shenzhen in his blog: https://electrolama.com/lab-notes/small-scale-manufacturing-sourcing/
So there might be proof to the contrary, sadly. 🙂
Does anyone use the Sonoff Zigbee Bridge flashed with Tasmota and know how to increase the polling on sensors? There is about a 2 second delay on them.
Sensors generally can't be polled
Any opinions on the new Sonoff usb stick? It seems to be better than the Elelabs one...
Which stick? https://www.itead.cc/cc2531-usb-dongle.html?
If you're running ZHA then the chipset is one of the recommended ones for that
is that a nor-way for you @jolly narwhal ? lol
Yaaaaaaas
it's also the recommended FW for the z2m EZSP adapter so 🤷♂️

on paper @golden vessel it looks better then the Elelabs adapter -- devil is always in the details though
At that price I'd be... Sceptical
Is the linked fw repo the same guy that is releasing the signed fw for the zbbridge?
i.e. does it required signed fw?
looks like it...
that is crazy cheap
shame it also requires signed fw :/
wonder if it running the same 64k ram/768 flash efr32 series2 as the bridge
it is 64/768
ya that one
yea it is the same
and same guy who provides the signed fw for the bridge
has the swd ports esposed to header holes too. so can free it.
insanely cheap though. 😭
In for one, gulp
lol
research lol
that means no signed images allowed? 😄
just as i have pcbs shipping for usb cc2652 lol
no if you have a swd/j-link programer you can do it
same as the bridge. you just have to wipe the chip and put a new bootloader on that doesn't require the signed fw.
ah! right. same as the ebyte one too
can you use a philips hue switch without a Hue Hub if you have another zigbee hub (ie Smartthings)
Yes
Or using a better solution like zigbee2mqtt or zha
awesome
thanks guys
i just ordered this and actually in the description it says 'no hub needes'
sweeeeeetttt
yea but the dimmer will be exposed to HA, right?
No
Don't you have a smartthings?
yea i do
then i said 'without a hub' i meant 'without a hue hub'
i have the Smartthings hub
You can bind both of those to smartthings
lmfao
dammit
"Attempting to Cancel
Your order is being prepared for shipment. We are attempting to cancel it now. We’ll e-mail you as soon as this status changes."
lemme reorder lol
good because some HA-ers gave that dimmer great reviews
PLEASE BE ADVISED: you are strongly encouraged to use the official Hue sensor integration, and cease using this custom integration.
I use the hue dimmer via zigbee2mqtt, it is definitely slower than the IKEA five button, and compared to Xiaomi it is horrible, but it works
that's funny, because my is instant
Interesting
I have it turning off a z-wave light and wifi light in the same room and my 15 month old can turn them on and off about five times per second
Mine is pretty fast, last I checked
there are a few models -- mine is the older one RWL-020 I think
Mine's on firmware 5.45.1.17846 - but it times out trying to update it 
Though, updating the Salus just throws an error. I should open an issue about that 🤔
What wireless switches do you use if you use any?
Your options do, you'll be shocked to hear, depend on where in the world you are 😉
Huh, getting a [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Request failed (Unsuccessful request status code: <Status.NWK_NO_ROUTE: 205>), retry attempt 3 of 5 for a (new Zigbee 3.0) Philips Hue light (that's well in range of other lights) and it still executes the commands (on/off)
I replugged the radio (ZHA reconnected fine) but now I'm getting: [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Request failed (Unsuccessful request status code: <Status.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>), retry attempt 3 of 5 (Edit: looks like both errors occur)
It's weird because that light never had any issues and was still working about 30 minutes before
You want weird..
I'm running with
zha:
zigpy_config:
znp_config:
max_concurrent_requests: 1000
Z Stack will spit out BUFFER FAILED messages occasionaly, but the frame is still sent
16?
Yeah, 16 for the newer radios. But you wouldn't get an error message if the message was never sent.
Is this another bulb joined directly to the coordinator?
It's not but according to ZHA map it has connections to about ~30 other routers
FWIW, I had some LWB014s and they were droppnig some end device childrens
I have two LWA007s left now -- they routinely fail ZCL attribute reads
but always work for on/off reliably
When you say "still executes the commands", are you saying that the request "fails" but the light still turns on/off in the end?
It's a 'LCG002' (zcl_version: 2 with ZHA profile, also reports attributes)
Yes
Does that happen when a AF.DataRequestSrcRtg.Req request is sent during retrying that forces the request to take the last seen path? You'll see a list of NWKs as SourceRoute.
That's basically a last resort that for me seems to work (it's better than the request outright failing due to the coordinator not being able to discover a route) but it looks like an ACK is not able to be relayed back to the coordinator
And since the request was likely sent with expect_reply=True, it'll fail when the ACK isn't received
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B7HHJD2HNX/ Ok, now I'm not even sure if the errors here are related to the Hue light. It looks hard to distinguish
Since they are the newer Bluetooth (Zigbee 3.0) bulbs, which firmware version are they running on?
The source routing last resort retry was for 0x74FC
Should be the latest, I routinely suck down the z2m zigbee-ota repo curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Koenkk/zigbee-OTA/master/index.json | jq -r '.[] | .url' | xargs wget
Guess I'll just power cycle the light for now
OK, this sounds stupid
But the power switch that's still connected to the light is apparently faulty
I guess it has a loose contact or something because it was still switched on
But when I pressed a bit harder, the light turned back on again (to the power restore state)
So it was a false alarm, sorry lol
Is the intermittent or bad contact making the light glitch out?
Or was it just off?
The switch might have still been connected sometimes but I think it was mostly off
So I guess the light "responding" to the on/off (which I only tried a couple of times) was just the switch(?)
So if we don't hear from you again, we can assume house fire?
Yeah, the electrician who originally wired this house didn't wire it up to German/Europe standards lol
And the painter put paint in every switch or something like that
I'll replace them... at some point
If you have some time, I would be interested to know what sw_build_id they report (should be something with 1.7.x.) and if they report "Philips" or "Signify Netherlands B.V." as the manufacturer
1.65.11_hB798F2B and Philips as mfgr
That's old firmware (compared to every Hue light I have)
Do you know which image id they use?
2021-03-15 10:44:15 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0xad0e:11:0x0019] OTA query_next_image handler for 'Philips LWA007': field_control=0, manufacture_id=4107, image_type=276, current_file_version=16780812, hardware_version=None
2021-03-15 10:36:48 DEBUG (SyncWorker_12) [zigpy.ota.provider] ImageKey(manufacturer_id=4107, image_type=276): /config/zigpy_ota/100B-0114-01000B00-ConfLightBLE-Lamps-EFR32MG21.zigbee, version: 16780032, hw_ver: (None, None), OTA string:
2021-03-15 10:36:48 DEBUG (SyncWorker_18) [zigpy.ota.provider] ImageKey(manufacturer_id=4107, image_type=276): /config/zigpy_ota/100B-0114-01000E04-ConfLightBLE-Lamps-EFR32MG21.zigbee, version: 16780804, hw_ver: (None, None), OTA string:
2021-03-15 10:36:48 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.ota.provider] FileStore: ImageKey(manufacturer_id=4107, image_type=276): Preferring '/config/zigpy_ota/100B-0114-01000E04-ConfLightBLE-Lamps-EFR32MG21.zigbee' over '/config/zigpy_ota/100B-0114-01000B00-ConfLightBLE-Lamps-EFR32MG21.zigbee'
2021-03-15 10:36:48 DEBUG (SyncWorker_14) [zigpy.ota.provider] ImageKey(manufacturer_id=4107, image_type=276): /config/zigpy_ota/100B-0114-01000E0C-ConfLightBLE-Lamps-EFR32MG21.zigbee, version: 16780812, hw_ver: (None, None), OTA string:
2021-03-15 10:36:48 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.ota.provider] FileStore: ImageKey(manufacturer_id=4107, image_type=276): Preferring '/config/zigpy_ota/100B-0114-01000E0C-ConfLightBLE-Lamps-EFR32MG21.zigbee' over '/config/zigpy_ota/100B-0114-01000E04-ConfLightBLE-Lamps-EFR32MG21.zigbee'
2021-03-15 10:43:41 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x4642:11:0x0019] ZCL request 0x0001: [0, 4107, 276, 16780812, None]
2021-03-15 10:43:41 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x4642:11:0x0019] OTA query_next_image handler for 'Philips LWA007': field_control=0, manufacture_id=4107, image_type=276, current_file_version=16780812, hardware_version=None
Huh, that really does seem to be the latest one then
huh -- didn't know they had a EFR32MG2 in them either
I had to buy them locally in a pinch as I pulled out 30 some ecosmart bulbs and I was router poor
haha
I have tried to avoid Hue as I had nothing but problems with the first generation hue bulbs
Yeah. Every bulb with the ZLL profile hasn't been that great for me. All new ones with Bluetooth (ZHA profile + attribute reports) are my most reliable bulbs (at least I never noticed any issues with them)
Since your bulbs still report "Philips" as the manufacturers, they still have a higher polling interval: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/059e9e830727c245ce7f3ac64d065ec3f6501b85/homeassistant/components/zha/light.py#L512
3 to 5 minutes instead of 45 to 75 minutes.
Is it possible that they only fail attribute reads because they are read much more often or something like that?
(The increased polling was added because the ZLL Hue bulbs don't report attributes. Since newer firmware on the BT bulbs changed some of the manufacturer names to Signify, they are now polled in a "normal" interval.)
I don't know
I'm reading the model attribute as a sort of self made pro-active "ping" attempt
Ah, okay then
the Hue bulbs will fail for hours at a time, come back to life for a few hours, fail again
I just eventually excluded them --- try to track down the silabs stack bug where everthing crashes
run it against all my IKEA stuff now, along with a daily leave and rejoin -- network has been really stable last few weeks, knock on wood\
(didn't know until now the Hue stuff is probably running the same Emberznet stack underneath)
I think they are running a newer version though.
(Perhaps try Adminiuga's test to see if they crash?)
Puds, have you ever tried running the fw through the SS tool to parse stack level? (https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vk6vty9H7q/)
I think he tried it on older Hue ZLL firmware (which are not running on Silabs) but they were encrypted.
(This was related to a completely different issues of older ZLL (non-Bluetooth) Hue bulbs not responding to unicasts for a couple of hours but coming back after some time)
Nothing interesting, unfortunately. I haven't found a way to extract anything like this out of the newer GBL images.
It's encrypted as well
But the newer Hue OTA files seem to have a ton of short, undocumented subelements (68 for that image, most others I've seen have just one for the FW) with ~500-900 bytes of more random data. No clue what it's for.
Perhaps it’s somehow related to the Bluetooth part?
Are zigbee devices the easiest to add to hass? Irrelevant of the brand, you can add directly right? Full functionality?
I just paired a CC2531 as a router, but can not for the life of me pair another one. I currently have a zzh! as a coordinator and 2 x CC2531 routers. This CC2531 that is not pairing was my coordinator before zzh! Is there a limit on how many CC2531 routers Z2M can have?
I keep flashing the CC2531 with the router firmware, and it looks like it passes, but it just wont pair to Z2M
I have in the past had to try over an over again to get certain devices to pair. Literally 20 times for one of my hue bulbs
I have some “No name” Zigbee groups in HA. I think they are for bulbs etc that are grouped when I bind them to a remote? Is it possible to rename these somehow?
You should be able to rename it through the UI. I’m guessing it’s the 0x0000 IKEA group?
It’s the ones named No name group xxxx”
I don’t see a way to edit in the UI though 🤔
Huh, you're right
I think it's an auto-generated group that IKEA remotes need. It should have a name though (although it also doesn't for me)
Why?
Ahh that’s way. Same here, still waiting. For me it’s coming from Germany, but DHL didn’t got the package yet and all my communication is a one-way conversation 🤬
For now, I emailed ’sascha@ehle.rs’ for the status as that is the contact address in PayPal.
delivery with slaesh take some time and patience 🙂 but at the end, the product is great
I’ll hope I will receive it. Just annoying that there is no communication at all at the moment.
on z2mqtt i am testing it and I've observed that there are devices that don't pair correctly, like aqara vibration sensor or xiaomi SP-EUC01
whatever i do it always pairs different
take the vibration one for example: sometimes it pairs and it always detect vibration
or plug sont show voltage, energy consumption etc
are those common things?
on zha they solve the plugs by being lazy only power is reported and done ....
There is your problem, probably
I know that sometimes devices can be fussy to get fully paired - so for battery powered ones I keep them awake until Z2M reports the interview complete
On my cc1352 the interview is over so quick I can't get in more than one extra press
🤣
yah i've read about his keep awake thing 🙂
And I'm not exaggerating
Some devices interview quickly, others... not so much
Yeah, I might see 10 seconds for a crappy device
like i said after this test i'll trow this conbee stick, don't even worth donating it to somebody, you don't do them any good
I got worried when it was 6 seconds
how do i make z2mqtt to report for example new state of a light when power was cut (and the bulb ofc remains lit)
z2mqtt doesn't seem to notice bulb is on for 3 minutes now
I'm struggling with a few lights, particularly one, that does not respons to automations. Neither from HA or NodeRED. The service is fired when configured to, it shows in the log, but nothing happens with the light.
I can fire the automation manually and it responds, and I have no issues controlling the light. But it does not respond to automations.
I'm unsure how to troubleshoot it, other lights and automations work fine
Any idea what kind of ZHA-log I should look into?
I'm using Hue/IKEA with a Conbee II
I just made an automation turning off a zigbee and a z-wave light - the latter went off fine, the first one not.
I have found that ZHA sometimes doesn't do so well with multiple simultaneous commands. You might find a delay node in NR fixes it. I have a place a few in some of mine for this reason
Hi, since yesterday I am getting [pydeconz.websocket] Client connection error in HA log. I am running HA Supervised with deCONZ integration in Hyper-V VM and deCONZ on the Windows host. I updated deCONZ to the latest, removed and set up the integration. It recognizes the gateway and reads all devices from it, but all entities are unavailable immediatly and the above error is logged. Any ideas what to check?
Yeah, that's why i moved from deconz to zha as well, as turning on/off groups was 50% at best.
I enabled debug logging for pydeconz:
2021-03-16 12:32:56 ERROR (MainThread) [pydeconz.websocket] Client connection error
2021-03-16 12:32:56 DEBUG (MainThread) [pydeconz.websocket] Websocket starting
2021-03-16 12:32:56 DEBUG (MainThread) [pydeconz.websocket] Reconnecting to deCONZ in 15.
2021-03-16 12:33:09 INFO (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.websocket_api.http.connection] [139725547638304] Connection closed by client
2021-03-16 12:33:11 DEBUG (MainThread) [pydeconz.websocket] Websocket starting
But now.. there's really just one lamp.
That's a little strange then that it would work manually but not in the automation. Perhaps if you shared your NR flows someone would be able to spot something?
Yep, let me just translate to English 😄
So the service is successfully called, but nothing happens.
Can you share the flow using paste ubuntu?
NR looks fine. Assuming outdoor_entrance is the correct entity then it's clearly being called correctly.
It honestly seems like my Zigbee network needs to "wake up" before anything can happen.
Buttons on my lovelace reacts 1/10 times the first time I push them (on light groups), but almost always the second and third.
And of course sometimes only 2 out of 3 bulbs in the group reacts. So i'm thinkin, as you said, it really struggles with 1) the first command in a while and 2) multiple commands at the same time.
I've set it up with a double node now. So light.turn_on/off --> Delay 15 seconds --> light.turn_on/off and we'll see throughout the next sunset/sunrises
Have to say I don't have that sort of issue. I have a sunset automation that addresses 11 light circuits. I have to separate the WiFi and zigbee publishing by half a second. (7 zigbee lights on a single node and then 4 Wifi separately)
@tepid cliff isn't it just range issues?
also, are you turning powering off (cutting power, not just turning off) any devices on the network?
No, devices are never turned off (cut power)
My girlfriend got the stern "mesh network important"-speech the other day.
I might get another repeater though, I've heard bulbs can be unreliable?
there are some bugs in some chips, but they could be on bulbs, plugs and probably repeaters too...
Here's a portion of my network with the light in question
Small, battery operated (Aqara) sensors that triggers z-wave lights always work without a hitch.
Any recommendations with what lamps to start with? I'm thinking about starting using 2 Philips play bars but am open to hear tips
Student room so not sure yet
Might also get 2 Lidl lamps
@tepid cliff you have deconz? conbee?
ah nvm you moved to zha with conbee stick
my advice run away from that conbee
How far?
far far away
until you reach a Elelabs Zigbee USB Adapter
that will solve all your issues
ofc if you dont have wifi / bluetooth interference
so how do you guys make zigbee2mqtt not be blind when power cuts and all lights come back ON, but it sees everything like nothing happen?
I can see that at least 2 devices haven't paired well. The have unk_model, so the interview has failed. You should remove and re-pair them
Hey maby someone can help me out I am getting " 21-03-16 16:08:10 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.addons.options] Unknown option 'new_api' for Zigbee2mqtt (7ad98f9c_zigbee2mqtt)
21-03-16 16:08:10 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.addons.options] Unknown option 'restartdelay' for Zigbee2mqtt (7ad98f9c_zigbee2mqtt)
21-03-16 16:08:10 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.addons.options] Unknown option 'initialdelay' for Zigbee2mqtt (7ad98f9c_zigbee2mqtt)" all of a sudden. I tryed to find help through google but i dont undersand what they are saying. Can someone maby help me out here?
Oh really? I thought that was weird, but since it works as an entity I figured it was OK. It's a mains-powered Hue.
So the IKEA outlet with unk_model should be repaired as well?
Supposedly the ITEAD/sonoff EFR32 EZSP stick is not firmware locked
yep. everything with the unk_model or unk_manuf
Thanks, I'll try! Strange, though.
that is a good indication that you have bad signal on your network
Well damn, now it showed up as Phillips
Hi, I have hit a dead end
Zigbee with Sonoff Tasmota
Tuya devices (Blind motor & replacement light switch)
Added ZHA, updated the Quirks with those on Github and am able to populate the Sonoff and doing a discovery finds the two devices
However, the devices do not have any entities or anything that is controllable. Looking at logs I see the following, which indicates that the updated quirks are not being matched
2021-03-16 18:34:07 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Checking quirks for _TZE200_zah67ekd TS0601 (84:71:27:ff:fe:11:43:5e)
2021-03-16 18:34:07 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Considering <class 'zhaquirks.xbee.xbee_io.XBeeSensor'>
2021-03-16 18:34:07 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Fail because endpoint list mismatch: {232, 230} {1}
I followed the process for manually updating the files, which I have confirmed are replaced, I removed the pycache folder and am now stuck on what to do next
Aha!, I have found that the folder in the Github info is not the one to update. I randomly found this location and have updated this and I can now see an Entity on my blind motor - \config\deps\lib\python3.8\site-packages\zhaquirks
Hi, quite a strange question.. But, is it possible for me to get my neighbours IKEA Trådfri-driver in my zigbee2mqtt? Seems to have 2 unidentified Ikea devices. Is there any way I can figure out if it's a bug or not?
Possible, if you had Z2M in pairing mode when they tried to pair their devices
Hi, I got Sonoff temperature sensor and it is shown correctly in Zigbee2mqtt with both temperature and humidity values reported fine. However, when I add the corresponding sensor entities to lovelace entities card it shows Unknown for temp/hunidity values. Any idea?
so how do you guys make zigbee2mqtt not be blind when power cuts and all lights come back ON, but it sees everything like nothing happen?
Retain
My Hue-outdoor lamp turned on as planned today, so re-adding it seems to have worked.
maybe zigpy should fail the pairing if some part of the interview fails? Because usually it will lead to issues, and most users may never notice...
@gentle flint ?
It does so if it doesn't get a node descriptor, active endpoints list and endpoints descriptor. Failure to get manufacturer and model is allowed as some devices do not support it. Debug logs of the interview
Is there any way I can use the original Philips Hue app with HA using ConBee stick, without the original bridge. Asking for “a wife” 🤷🏻♂️
lol sounds like you need a new spouse-friendly lovelace dashboard
And any news on your reachout to this slaesh? I'm also about to regret my choice ordering it here - not sure if I want to try and cancel it out by taking back the payment somehow and order it with someone else. I'm just annoyed with that I can't use zigbee2mqtt to use my latest equipment, what's left is just wait on this new stick...
You could try this https://github.com/hass-emulated-hue/core
https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/discussions/6702#discussioncomment-487057
Make of that what you will 
The reach out is a dead end for now, but the shipping number I received (March 8th) tells me the order is shipped. ‘Shipment on the way’. So I’m hopeful at the moment.
I ordered 28 Feb.
Wow...that github article!
I just ordered yesterday, but I can't wait so long.....I think I might cancel it via paypal and buy it via a more reliable way..
I use this https://github.com/hass-emulated-hue/core
its fine, bue sometimes lost conn
Hello all, my first time on discord 🙂 I'm writing a detailed article on my blog (italian language) about ZHA. Does anyone has a correct explanation of the numbers on the link lines between zigbee devices please? I could not found what does they mean...
LQI, or Link Quality Index is a value used to compute Link Cost for Zigbee and other stacks. Link Cost can be used for creating network routes, selecting network parents, determining neighbors and managing routing tables. In both the Zigbee and IEEE 802.15.4 standards, LQI is required, but unlike RSSI (Receive Signal Strength Indication -- a standardized value), it is left to the manufacturer to determine how to implement LQI. On-chip radios differ significantly, so the mechanisms to evaluate LQI must be specific to the radio.
The ZigBee routing algorithm uses a path cost metric for route comparison during route discovery and maintenance. In order to compute this metric, a cost, known as the link cost, is associated with each link in the path and link cost values are summed to produce the cost for the path as a whole.
A link of zero (the worst) is generally bad, or could indicate unknown. A link of 255 could indicate a perfect signal, or that it isn't reporting correctly.
Generally anything between 1 and 254 is something more likely to be "useful", for some value of useful. That said, my Lidl socket had an LQI up in the 130+ range, and spent half the time not responding. My Salus socket in the same place has an LQI down in the 40 to 60 range, and is always connected.
So, as the quote from Rich suggested, the LQI should be taken with a wheelbarrow of salt
I can't for the life of me add a tradfri outlet and a e27 tradfri to ZHA right now, my mesh works fine but nothing gets detected... reset multiple times now :/
ha, it worked instantly when I tried pairing via a tradfri bulb
Nice map! But what does the numbers on the link lines means, when you zoom in?
@amber gull i like your mesh 😄
Down to 110 nodes now after pulling 30 ecosmart bulbs -- quite router poor still too, have a lot of sensors, and sengled, king of fan controllers that are mains powered but end devices
But everything is super stable and reliable these days, all so boring 🤪
I quoted the official description in response to your first question about this
Holy moly, worked right out of the box, thanks!
Boring is a good thing
Have you switched to EFR32 pro?
hey @tropic depot i'm testing right now what you ask
yea I switched a bit over a week ago
mine got so boring I make stuff for others to hopefully make things boring.
You're running tubes TI coordinator, right?
Thank you, but I know the theory about LQI. But why some links have one number while other have two numbers? Are they LQI about communications between the two nodes or to the path to coordinator or what?
I think the two LQI readings are what each node reports. They should be similar
For example, I have one LEDVANCE controller that literally only reports 254/255 as an LQI (bug)
The line between the LEDVANCE router and another router has "150/254" on it then.
I also tried https://github.com/walthowd/ha-constant-modifier today (on current Home Assistant 2021.4.0.dev20210317 but the issue also happened on 2021.3.2).
Somehow when I click "Check Config" with the example entry from the readme, it's stuck. (Endlessly spinning)
The only "weird" thing I got in my configuration.yaml is this:
packages: !include_dir_named integrations
Perhaps this causes the constant modifier to hang?
some unwanted challenges from e1812 ikea button...paired/repaired 9 times in a row and i cannot make an automation with it. it doesn't have the action "on" as the switch
Please upload the signature to https://paste.ubuntu.com and send the link here
who?
You and of your shortcut button
(assuming you're using ZHA) Settings -> Integrations -> Zigbee Home Automation -> Devices -> Tradfri Shortcut button -> Device signature
Mhm, I'm not using Z2M myself but it's supposedly already supported: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/E1812.html
You probably need to be on 1.18.0 or 1.18.1
didn't say it wasn't supported
last version used
just...what it is discovered..is useless
So, you get action
I'd expect that it'll be something like click
Or whatever it explains in there
battery: 100
update:
state: idle
update_available: false
friendly_name: 0x680ae2fffec1db8f action
icon: 'mdi:gesture-double-tap'
this is state of sensor.action
Well, no, that's the attributes 😉
state is empty :))
ok ok..but...i cannot use for trigger this device 😦
Is there not a device trigger?
If not, you still can, I've done that for other buttons
Ah well, state trigger it is
oh..cannot put the hugging cat here :))
the problem was state and not device...i will check it tomorrow as i want to use it as a doorbell
Hi, I use the Conbee II USB stick, which is currently not working with Z2M. In the HA log it says, every few seconds, Detecting HardwareAction.REMOVE/ADD USB/SERIAL Hardware. '
Is that correct? Seems wrong for me
Sounds like a problem with your hardware
If that's a Pi, I'd suspect the power supply
But I never had a problem, before the Conbee II, I used a CC2531, I wanted to get more speed and better performance, but I dont get it running
And maybe the Conbee II draws more power...
Here is a screenshot from my log https://imgur.com/cKUJ0Mz
Yeah, that's a hardware problem, or you've got major OS issues
My Raspi power supply has 2500mA. What do you suggest? You think the Conbee stick is broken?
It's possible
There's a custom component for checking the Pi's power supply - worth installing that
WOW
both slaesh and zzh are through their stock
nvm slaesh has fullfillment problems
ZZH is now being done in small batches, it's been back in stock twice this week ISTR
Is there already support for the new ikea styrbar controller and e27 CWS bulb?
Other than ikea’s own gatewsy, that is.
Doesn't look like Z2M supports it yet
Yeah, so it seems 🧐
There may be work going on in GitHub, worth checking, or ... https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/how_tos/how_to_support_new_devices.html
Yup. Never tried to add support to new devices myself. Probably not that difficult though. Maybe will try that next weekend
is there a trick to changing the zha channel? can't get mine to update with the yaml config
what brand/model, by the way?
Raspi 3 B
do i have to create the network from scratch after setting the yaml?
It's possible but not documented (or trivially easy). Depends on the radio you're using.
@idle orchid There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:
deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are support. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).
zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).
Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.
Basic info on each option
zzh on zha?
If you install the latest version from Git, https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp#network-backup-beta can make a human-editable backup and you can restore it to change the channel (after editing the JSON)
Otherwise, you'll have to edit ZHA to call await application_controller.update_network_channel(25) somewhere (e.g. replace this line and permit joins https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/dev/homeassistant/components/zha/api.py#L886)
Neither method is easy but the second is the "safer" of the two. Hopefully this all will be exposed once work begins on the unified zigpy CLI.
Alternatively, if you have a tiny network and don't care about re-joining devices, just re-flash the zzh and your config will be used during formation of the new network.
Hopefully they'll start selling that bulb on its own
i was asking aboutthe power supply, sorry
this way worked, super easy 👍
Thank you for the answer. So you mean that the two numbers are the two LQI that each router/end device reports about each other? But then why some devices (end devices typically) have only one number? And why those LQI values are different from the value found in device card or in ZHA Newtork Card (try yourself!) and the two numbers are sometimes very different from each other? If those numbers are the mutual LQI how to understand what LQI is about what device?
Sorry to bother but... hey, I'm writing a guide about ZHA so...
I think the values shown in the ZHA Network Card are calculated differently. Perhaps they are not just the LQI from the last jump? But I’m not sure and you probably shouldn’t quote me lol
In my experience though, the LQIs haven’t exactly corresponded to how good a device is communicating in a network
Yes my experience says the same 🙂 But I wanted a correct description of those values to describe them in my guide. In the meanwhile I've not described them. But hey, I know that many users will ask me that...
Tell them they don’t need to worry about it lol
ConBee generally has the highest LQI, then EZSP-coordinators and TI coordinators somehow calculate the worst LQI in the same environment
Yeah, if I tell them so they'll ask all togheter! 😄 I'll not tell anything at the moment. I've even watched in the zha_map js sourcecode and I understand that those values are two LQI about a device and his neighbor. But why some are two while others are just one number?
Perhaps the devices don’t report it when queried
Or the end devices were sleeping while the topology was scanned, so only the router could report the LQI
I'm looking to buy a few of the Xiaomi Aqara devices (button, temp/humidity sensor) but don't want to use their zigbee gateway. Would I be able to connect these to HA using my Nortek zwave/zigbee usb radio? I only use it for zwave now. I would probably need the zigbee2mqtt addon as well
I've seen reports that they will work with a conbee, so I would assume they would also work with the Nortek
Support for the chip used by the Nortek stick is extremely new in Z2M so you're likely going to have a smoother experience with ZHA
Hi all, Having many issues with my zigbee sensors with zha. For reference i use a sonoff zigbee hub with zha. After ~6hours of nothing happening they go unavailable. If I open or close the door it comes back online, like its timing out. Heres the profile of the sensor. Thanks https://zigbee.blakadder.com/eWeLink_RHK06.html
i emailed PayPal to cancel my slae.sh zigbee stick order
because ... i dont even want it anymore
My zzh came so quick. Slaesh never responded to my emails and I finally had to get PayPal to refund after like 5 months 😬
I'm 10 days in, but I'm already asking for a refund.
I received an order acknowledgement that said it would be sent within the next few days. He does not respond to email or message. All I see written about where he does communicate is that he is "facing problems with DHL" and whatever. Thats fine, but if you fail to communicate with your customers then you don't deserve my money.
Funny though, I ordered stuff recently that DHL had no trouble getting from Europe to the UK in a timely manner 
I avoid using DHL at all costs, even if it means I can't get a product at all.
Not because I have a problem with the company as a whole, but their Thai team are .... evil.
Ah, yeah, here there's no issues and they're one of the better companies (at least from outside, no idea what they're like internally)
Now, Yodel/Home Delivery Network...
I use whoever is cheapest because...they’re pretty much all the same 🙂
Not here for sure, Yodel are infamous for "mostly" delivering something - by leaving it in your garden, in the hedge, a neighbour's garden, or just not even trying
They're also not the worst 😄
Yodel/Hermes etc struggle with the last mile a bit, totally area (driver...) dependant
"a bit" 😂
That said, DPD are IMO the gold standard (from a customer perspective)
There's a whole bunch of good enough that typically includes Fedex, DHL, and others. And then you get the "idiot in a van" couriers that are just madness
We have so many couriers here, the competition is murder. I rarely pay more than $1 for anything to be shipped. From any domestic seller.
My slaesh stick is out for delivery already
Yay!
shaking hands . #metoo, I cancelled it after the bad reviews. Might be a bit prematurely as I only ordered it last Monday, but....I kindly sent a mail to cancel the order, and with no respons and all experiences here and elsewhere, also initiated the Paypal refund... Instead - I went over to tindie and found one there. Read this seller is more reliable, only thing is UK, hope customs won't charge me ~20 for the 3 euro's limit exces
It is already possible to buy only the bulb. I just wanted to test also the new remote. https://www.ikea.com/fi/fi/p/tradfri-led-lamppu-e27-806-lm-langaton-himmennettaevae-vaerillinen-valkoinen-spektri-pallo-opaalinvalkoinen-70439158/
He cancelled my faulty order, just email him!
Whats wrong with sleash stick? In my view it uses superior com chip, but has anyone reported worse performance? I dis see he had covid death in his family so thats why he is unavailable
The stick, maybe not so much, his communication.... quite a bit 😉
Where would you be shipping to?
Yes i think its the covid death. Last i heard fron him he was clearing out the house




