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tropic depot
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maybe it has an alternate mode like the other hue remote

mellow geode
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It's what I'm trying to do right now. Some things seem to be happening on a custom Philips cluster

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Another thing, the new hue dimmer (v2) has a "Hue" button which is a fancy way of saying "cycle between scenes". It does this using a group binding on the Hue Bridge and this also (kind of) works with ZHA. However, there it only cycles through scene ids 0x00 and 0x01 (ZCL: Scenes -> recall with Group Id and Scene ID) (even if there are more scenes saved to the light). Is there any obvious way how the dimmer remote is made to know how many scenes there are saved on the device/in the group?

tropic depot
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dunno have never looked at it

mellow geode
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I guess nobody is really using scenes on Zigbee devices

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Great, now the Hue Bridge is sending an OTA even though automatic updates are off?

torn saffron
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Trying my luck again: Do we know of any zigbee light devices except Hues that can save and correctly behave according to their power-on settings? (Last state before outage)

old kernel
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Pretty sure all the ones I have just turn on after power recovery. Haven't seen any way to configure that option though, I don't think zha has a settings panel for devices.

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(2 CREE and a whole pile of ledvance/osram/sylvania)

junior sedge
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I apologize for asking a question which must have been asked a million times, but is there any source which anyone could point me toward for developing a new quirk for ZHA (beyond the repo itself)? I have managed to get to the point that my quirk is being applied to the device (i.e. signatures match), but I can't get anything useful out of my device - all attempts end in "Data remains after deserializing ZCL frame" and "No handler for cluster command ..." without any zha_event. thanks!

mellow geode
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Are you trying to make a quirk for a Tuya remote? (/What's the manufacturer and model?)

junior sedge
molten linden
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for tuya stuff this is a lot over my head, but when inspired I was going to compare the tuya thermostat quirks in zha to the z2m code

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to see how it would relate for like the curtain motor

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tuya slapped zigbee modules in their existing devices basically

mellow geode
molten linden
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and do all the communication over a tuya specific cluster.

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yea that doesn't look like tuya

mellow geode
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Perhaps it helps if you (temporarily) turn on debug logs and see what's being written to the log when rotating the dials.

junior sedge
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i'm drowning in logs currently, but I don't have the expertise to understand them

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if anyone is willing to have a look

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thank you!

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lines 15-20 as an example in the log

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though i think all of that log is related to a single rotation detent

mellow geode
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Perhaps open an issue over at the zha-device-handlers/zhaquirks GitHub repo

junior sedge
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i was hoping that this would be a simple / common problem to which the solution might be obvious, and so i might not have to open an issue but rather a PR!

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but i will admit defeat and put together some info for an issue. thank you for your help

spice kelp
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i'm looking at the zzh stick. would it be able to be used for both zigbee and thread simultaneously, assuming thread devices start to get released?

visual locust
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having a hell of a time pairing my 5 button tradfri remote via ZHA. usually it gets stuck on Starting Interview, sometimes it gets stuck on Configuring or Initializing.
sometimes it does pair and returns the battery percentage even, sometimes no battery percentage, but then it becomes unresponsive. for example i get request sw_build_id even
I have my zigbee coordinator on an extension cable away from anything electronic. fresh battery in the remote. latest f/w. other zigbee devices and tradfri lights connect just fine.
no errors in the logs just a bunch of Extending timeouts
any advice?

visual locust
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also, the remote works fine when pairing directly with an ikea light

austere patio
austere patio
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It'll go away in some upcoming HA release but it isn't the source of your problem

visual locust
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is there a GH issue for this where I can read more?

austere patio
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Not really, it's just fixed 😄

visual locust
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what are my options? wait for HA release or use different coordinator?

austere patio
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What I mean to say is that the error is because requests are failing. Enable debug logs and you'll see the status codes

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That error being fixed will just cause a different, expected error to be logged

visual locust
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i see, i do have debug logs, let me look again

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2021-02-27 00:28:32 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.api] Read attribute for: cluster_id: [0] cluster_type: [in] endpoint_id: [1] attribute: [16384] manufacturer: [None] response: [2.3.014] failure: [{}],

austere patio
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That's the response to your attribute read request, which seems to have succeeded

visual locust
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oh what! it worked! cant be...

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thanks for noticing. need to dig deeper now

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yea, it doesnt work now, log just shows
2021-02-27 00:32:54 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.device] [0x6c54] Extending timeout for 0xe5 request
and thats it

austere patio
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Did you enable debug logging just for zigpy?

visual locust
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unless this is related
2021-02-27 00:33:23 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.websocket_api.http.connection] [139803129556272] Error handling message: Timeout

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zigpy & homeassistant.components.zha

austere patio
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Yeah, you need to include the radio library as well

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In the debug logging section of the ZHA documentation, copy/paste that entire config

visual locust
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other than that my printer is offline

austere patio
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Requests aren't going through and are failing on the second try due to MAC_TRANSACTION_EXPIRED

junior sedge
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quick question: is there a "simple" reason why my device might not generate any zha_events? does their lack imply that the quirk is fundamentally incorrect (despite matching all signatures) or is it something more complex?

heavy depot
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I just switched from Homebridge to Home Assistant, and I must admit that I love it so far. Such a smooth setup process, and easy to follow guides + Docker. Yay!

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I need help pairing my Phillips Hue Bulbs to Home Assistant though - not sure where to begin

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Currently I have an IKEA Bridge, and perhaps also an Hue Bridge somewhere, which I'd like to avoid having to use, since I have a CC2531 ZigBee USB-Sick zigbee2mqtt USB in my Raspberry PI. How and where do I begin?

austere patio
hardy crane
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before the addon had time to start up

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you've already installed an MQTT broker I hope

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although likely you haven't set up the path to your Zigbee stick

austere patio
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Assuming you're using Z2M 😛

scarlet gust
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I have a question which I'm sure has been asked before so I apologize in advance, tried searching here but it's like finding a needle in a haystack. Do devices pair to the hardware as in the USB stick, or the controlling application? if I switch between deconz and say ZHA, should the devices I discovered in deconz automatically show up?

spice kelp
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i was actually wondering the same thing

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and the corollary, can a network be moved to a new stick?

scarlet gust
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zigbee2mqtt has the concept of a network key which I couldn't find in ZHA or deconz

spice kelp
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pretty sure deconz also has that

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update: it does

scarlet gust
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whered you find it?

spice kelp
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there also a PAN ID if that means something

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native deconz UI in the network settings

scarlet gust
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ah ha! thanks

amber gull
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@scarlet gust devices are paired to the stick but there is extra meta information

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Can't just switch to ZHA and bring all devices, would have to repair

scarlet gust
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even if I use the same PAN ID and network key?

amber gull
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Yes

scarlet gust
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ok, thanks

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that's what I suspected

jolly narwhal
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Also, before you get too invested, have a good stick @scarlet gust

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Unless you want to repair when changing stick

scarlet gust
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I got a conbee

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and I'm barely getting started with zigbee, I had one device up until earlier tonight

jolly narwhal
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Probably works, wouldn't be my recommendation for zigbee2mqtt atleast

scarlet gust
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on Paulus's recommendation picked up two ikea remotes to play with earlier today so first time really getting my hands dirty

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what would you recommend?

jolly narwhal
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A CC26xx (slaesh, zzh) or CC1352p2

scarlet gust
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sorry I meant the integration

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but I will look into those

jolly narwhal
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I will recommend zigbee2mqtt

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With those sticks

scarlet gust
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so get one of those and then use zigbee2mqtt

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got it

jolly narwhal
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With zha, something else

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But I don't use ZHA

amber gull
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Those work fine with ZHA too

scarlet gust
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of the two you recommended is there one that's better for range? I like that slaesh has the antenna

jolly narwhal
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I use the cc1352 without an external antenna, it covers my whole house (3 floors 252m2) and 100+ devices without fault

amber gull
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Well it's a two way street

scarlet gust
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gotcha

scarlet gust
spice kelp
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are both the slaesh and zzh only sold direct?

amber gull
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Yes

jolly narwhal
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I believe so, and mostly out of stock

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Which is why I redirect people to the cc1352p2

scarlet gust
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got a link handy? searching for that gives me datasheets

amber gull
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cc1352p2 also can be a art piece or coffee table too

scarlet gust
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lol

amber gull
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Yes. I guess it's not that big.

spice kelp
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it's not small

amber gull
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Couldn't fit more then two coffee mugs on it

jolly narwhal
spice kelp
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as long as it keeps them hot

jolly narwhal
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The size of the board doesn't bother me, it sits in a corner of the upstairs living room

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🤣

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The raspberry pi it is connected to is disgusting though

near echo
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Ti should really make dongles for cc1352p2 - like nrf52840 dongle.

amber gull
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I used it for awhile. Literally did mount it on the wall.

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Just make sure you don't buy the 900mhz one too

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And ya gotta be good to get the external antenna going on it

spice kelp
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oh it's also $60

jolly narwhal
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50 from ti

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And was $5 with three day shipping from Texas to Norway

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So I can't complain

scarlet gust
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yeah I might just go for one of the other ones, I'd prefer something enclosed

jolly narwhal
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Then you will be waiting

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For a few months probably

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🤣

amber gull
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Where are you located?

scarlet gust
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washington dc

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might try to work with this conbee for now. I'm in a studio so hopefully range won't be too much of an issue

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what I've gotta figure out is why my devices aren't pairing. I can't tell whether it's the USB cable that I am using, the conbee, or the controller

amber gull
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This guys is East coast

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Will be restocked soon

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Conbee has had a few bugs where they go radio dead until restart

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I'd check deconz rest issues on github

scarlet gust
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thanks for the tip, will keep my eye on that

amber gull
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And conbee seems more sensitive to interference

scarlet gust
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yeah ok, so I tried getting these shorter usb extension cables but I think they've caused more problems than they've solved

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it's probably a combo of interference + those bugs thats killing me

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thanks for all the help, I've got a lot to look into

amber gull
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Gluck!

alpine cipher
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Planning to buy one of his coordinators and routers

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Just waiting till he has stock

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@amber gull did you test one of tube’s products ?

coral tide
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hey guys, I've installed Zigbee lights around the house and now am looking to install light switches
with deCONZ will I be able to make Zigbee light switches not physically turn off the power to my lights?
I want to program the switches to turn the smart lights off but not cut the power to them

molten linden
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I did this but ended up using Shelly devices behind the switch as they could decouple the relay from the switch.

plucky burrow
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IKEA LED Panel White spectrum + ZHA: I cannot change the white spectrum when I pair the IKEA LED Panel with ZHA. Only 'action I can do is switch it off/on/toggle (https://i.imgur.com/7tuk7Yk.png) ? What would be the main steps in HA to change the white spectrum ?
a)Without HA + ZHA I can change the white spectrum of the [IKEA LED Panel] with the [Ikea Remote control]
b) Devices:
[IKEA LED Panel] = FLOALT LED light panel, dimmable, white spectrum > https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/L1528.html
[IKEA Remote control] = IKEA TRADFRI remote control > https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/E1524_E1810.html
Thanks for any hints

spice kelp
molten linden
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Ha yes it happens. Though works better in 3-way switches then that doesn’t come into play. I did this with a hall light. The Shelly is in the box above the light. zigbee light in the fixture for desired white temp.

spice kelp
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ah yes a 3-way would work nicely

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i should watch my phrasing 😆

scarlet gust
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Slaesh just went back in stock so picked one of those up

stone halo
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Got one too, Accidentally made an order mistake, PayPal confirmed it without even click on confirm, he doesn't check his telegram though...

scarlet gust
stone halo
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I'll have to try!

mellow geode
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FYI, slaesh's stick is back in stock

summer thicket
amber gull
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Not sure why @stone halo but a lot of people never hear back from slaesh

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Poor customer service, buyer beware

scarlet gust
scarlet gust
amber gull
austere patio
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From what I've seen everything has been related to shipping

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Or him just not sending the order out for a while

amber gull
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Yes. But seems he just never responds

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Same reports on the forums/reddit

austere patio
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He seems to have been working on his store's Git repo a bit in the past few weeks before re-opening so maybe that will change

plucky burrow
amber gull
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You need our quirky expert @mellow geode

spice kelp
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are there any major downsides to gateway-based coordinators?

mellow geode
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Can you upload the signature (Settings -> Integrations -> Zigbee Home Automation (ZHA) -> select the device -> "Device Signature") to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ and send it here?

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Can you also go to (on the same page in Home Assistant where the device signature button is): "Manage Clusters" -> select "Color" cluster in the first dropdown menu. Then (in the second dropdown menu with attributes), select "color_capabilities" and click "Read/Get Zigbee attribute" and post the output (should start with bitmap) here.

austere patio
mellow geode
plucky burrow
plucky burrow
mellow geode
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Should be an "easy fix" though.

stone halo
old kernel
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Trying again... anyone know what log settings I can turn on to figure out why my lights turn themselves on? is there a debug log for ZHA?

mellow geode
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Try looking in the logbook for Home Assistant. Sometimes you see that at the same time another bulb (which you turned on perhaps) also caused the wrong bulb to turn on.

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Perhaps it's bound to a wrong Zigbee group.

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You can also execute the "reset_all" command on the Groups cluster for the lights that is turning on all time.

old kernel
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ooh, that sounds like a good start. is that available in the ui?

mellow geode
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Both options are in the UI

old kernel
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the reset all, i mean. i've already checked the groups, there are only two groups and only 2 lights in the problematic group

mellow geode
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The logbook is as usual in the sidebar. And the ZHA cluster management options is here:
Settings -> ZHA -> select the device -> Manage Clusters (then select the Groups cluster -> cluster command: reset_all)

If you then want to add it to a ZHA group again, remove the device if it's still showing up in a ZHA group. Then readd it

old kernel
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okay, will try that. thanks 🙂

stone halo
old kernel
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logbook just shows "turned on", with nothing else happening at all...

mellow geode
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Yeah, that probably means the bulb turned out without Home Assistant telling it to do so.

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That happens when you turn on a Zigbee group (Home Assistant does not tell all individual lights to turn on)

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Or when a remote control is bound to the bulb perhaps.

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Or somebody toggled off/on the mains (most bulbs resume to on).

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If resetting group membership doesn't help, I'd just try to reset the whole bulb.

old kernel
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i don't have any remotes, and the toggle is hidden behind an appliance in the kitchen that nobody can reach 🙂

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(it also turns itself on at like 3 or 4 AM)

mellow geode
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Mhm, are any automations running which turn other lights on/off at that time?

old kernel
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nope

mellow geode
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What bulb is it (that's randomly turning on/off)?

old kernel
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it's a sylvania smart+

mellow geode
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oh

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I've never had any good luck with (older) OSRAM/LEDVANCE/Sylvania products but they still shouldn't turn on at random times.

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Did you already try to reset it completely?

amber gull
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Might check logs if polling was at same time

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Or topo scan

old kernel
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which logs should i be checking? and what is topo scan? sorry, I'm much more familiar with zwave stuff

amber gull
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My Sengleds would turn on when polled last year. Forgot root issue. Dave fixed it.

old kernel
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and, is there a zigbee cluster command to reset or do i want to try to do the on/off/on/off thing?

mellow geode
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I would just do the on/off thing

old kernel
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is there anything conbee/dresden specific to watch out for?

mellow geode
# plucky burrow Ikea Device signature is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S4C4jVHPxY/

Here's a quirk that should fix the issue for your device: https://github.com/TheJulianJES/zha-device-handlers/blob/ikea_cct_zll_fix/zhaquirks/ikea/cctlightzha.py
You can just download the file and copy it to your config directory. Then (via accessing the docker container), copy it from /copy/temp/cctlightzha.py to /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zhaquirks/ikea/

Here are more detailed instructions to test the quirk: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/#testing-quirks-in-development-in-docker-based-install

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If you're able to test it and it works, it will be included in a future Home Assistant release.

plucky burrow
old kernel
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Okay I found the log settings in the ZHA documentation, but I still don't know what 'topo scan' is, or how to tell it to poll devices, to see if that is related. guess i'll start with watching the logs

mellow geode
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The "topology scan" is for the ZHA map to show which devices are connected what.

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If you enable debug logs (either by editing your configuration.yaml or by calling logger.set_level and then setting ZHA, ZHA (radio) libs and so on to the debug level), you will see when a device is being polled.

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Lights can either report their state by sending attribute reports (pushing data to ZHA which instantly reflects in Home Assistant).

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Or by Home Assistant polling (pulling) the lights for their state.

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As older Hue bulbs (the ones without Bluetooth) do not report attribute reports, every Hue bulb (even the newer ones) is polled in a 3 - 5 minute interval.

old kernel
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makes sense

mellow geode
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Other bulbs are polled every 40 - 75 minutes or something like that

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But I'm not sure.

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So it's possible that the light switches on/off but Home Assistant only knows 30 minutes later.

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(Might not be the case though)

old kernel
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no i can see it turn on sometimes and it is immediately reported, and i have an automation set up to turn it off immediately if it turns on, so it dims up and back down again

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unfortunately it happens anywhere from 5 or 6 times in a day to not at all for 2 or 3 days, so i'll have to see when it happens next and then go back to the HA log, hoping the log hasn't grown into the gigabytes by then

mellow geode
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Walt also mentioned that his Sengled bulbs were actually turned on when polled (due to a bug in their firmware).

mellow geode
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I guess you already tried to update the firmware?

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Perhaps enabling the ledvance_provider for ZHA in the configuration.yaml will update the bulbs

old kernel
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when i first got them i was still on smartthings and they updated as soon as they connected

mellow geode
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Ah, I see.

old kernel
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they didn't turn themselves on when using smartthings, so there's that...

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hopefully the log turns up something useful

mellow geode
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Can you send the signature of the device and also check sw_build_id on the Basic cluster? (upload it to https://paste.ubuntu.com/)

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And whatever is displayed (if it's displayed) on the device config page for Firmware: xxx.

old kernel
mellow geode
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Can you also check zcl_version on the Basic cluster?

old kernel
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2

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Thanks by the way, this has been driving me batty 🙂

mellow geode
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Lastly, can you check date_code on the Basic cluster?

old kernel
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nothing came back. see this in the logs:
2021-02-27 13:11:16 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] 'aps_data_indication' response from <DeconzAddress address_mode=ADDRESS_MODE.NWK address=0xc712>, ep: 1, profile: 0x0104, cluster_id: 0x0000, data: b'182b010600004200' 2021-02-27 13:11:16 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.api] Read attribute for: cluster_id: [0] cluster_type: [in] endpoint_id: [1] attribute: [6] manufacturer: [None] response: [] failure: [{}],

mellow geode
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Ah, ok

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But it seems like it's "already" a newer firmware (and model) (perhaps their "Z3" line)

old kernel
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it appears that i can't add them back into the zigbee group...

mellow geode
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You need to "remove" them first (top of the GUI) if they are still added there.

old kernel
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they weren't, and nothing was showing up when i tried to add them to the group. but looking a few minutes later all the devices showed up

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so now i was able to. odd, but 🤷‍♂️

mellow geode
old kernel
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if i wanted to build a zha.set_lock_usercode service and/or update the keymaster custom plugin to handle zigbee locks, would that be zigpy/device handler/quirk stuff or would it be ZHA core code?

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(the codes can currently be set via cluster commands, and notifications of which user slot unlocked the door are similarly cluster queryable)

old kernel
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Possibly simpler question:
This is the result of a get attribute for a bitmask:
KeypadOperationEventMask.32768|16384|8192|4096|2048|1024|512|256|Non_Access_User_Operation|Unlock_source_keypad_error_invalid_schedule|Unlock_source_keypad_error_invalid_code|Lock_source_keypad_error_invalid_schedule|Lock_source_keypad_error_invalid_code|Unlock_source_keypad|Lock_source_keypad|Manufacturer_specific

Should I read this as all bits are enabled? How would I turn on or off one of the bits?

torn saffron
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Do we know of any in wall (behind switch) Zigbee modules that support dimming?

mellow geode
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I think most Sunricher based modules do this

plucky burrow
old kernel
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well that's not what i was expecting to see

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the problematic lights just turned themselves on again

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Device 0xc712 (f0:d1:b8:00:00:05:86:28) joined the network

mellow geode
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So it disconnects from the network and joined again (then turning on)?

old kernel
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apparently? there's no notification in the info logs that it disconnected

amber gull
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thanks @mellow geode for the quirk! Well done!

mellow geode
torn saffron
torn saffron
old kernel
obsidian bison
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greets! I am having a weird issue with my zigbee switches, it seems like random buttons are directly paired with random lights
can lights/switches pair to each other during setup without doing it explicitly?

old kernel
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installing a new panelboard hasn't been high on my list, but maybe it should move up

mellow geode
obsidian bison
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Aqara switches and Tradfri lights in this case, but it also happened with an Osram(ish) plug

mellow geode
obsidian bison
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I tried turning HA off, and the switch still turned the lights on

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oh, wrong thread, nm

mellow geode
obsidian bison
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ooh, it might be an Ikea thing then, where they pair to the first thing they see

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like ducks in cartoons

mellow geode
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Perhaps you can unbind the Aqara devices in the cluster settings of the remote

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Cluster: Groups -> reset_all as a command

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And device binding: unbind

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Make sure to wake the remote though by pressing a button while unbinding

obsidian bison
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I tried looking at binds with the zigbee2mqtt web app, but it only shows the light bound to "coordinator"

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this is not about an Ikea remote, I have Aqara remotes and Ikea lights

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what do you mean by cluster settings?

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when a zigbee light is bound to "coordinator", that's the gateway, right?

torn saffron
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They look like they should do the job if they function, and TRIAC dimming is exactly the models I’m getting.

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Will the wiring be any different in case of a dimmable light + dimmer supported Zigbee switches?

old kernel
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zigbee commands at a low level are "cluster commands". in ZHA you can run them outside of what is available through the normal user interface

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not sure if zigbee2mqtt lets you do that though

obsidian bison
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the z2m webapp has a page with cluster information, I'm not sure what to make of it though

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also apparently it could have to do with both devices being in the same group

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terribly hacky to figure all of this out though

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are clusters like services on each device?

old kernel
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kinda, yeah. basically a "cluster" is a bunch of commands and attributes

obsidian bison
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Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2021-02-27 23:04:29: Received Zigbee message from 'T206', type 'commandOn', cluster 'genOnOff', data '{}' from endpoint 1 with groupID 0
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2021-02-27 23:04:29: Received Zigbee message from 'T107', type 'attributeReport', cluster 'genOnOff', data '{"onOff":1}' from endpoint 1 with groupID 0
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206 is the switch, 107 is the light

old kernel
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so my zigbee lock has a "lock cluster" for things like setting user codes, and a "groups" cluster for linking it with other devices directly

obsidian bison
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the other light that has nothing to do with the switch, totally other room

old kernel
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you'd want to go into the "groups" cluster and find the "remove all" cluster command, and run that on the light and the switch

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or at least the light

obsidian bison
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in the list of bindings I only see "coordinator" -- is that the gateway and should always be there?

old kernel
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that's device bindings, and yeah i think it should. there are both device bindings and group bindings

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(sorry if i'd had more time with zigbee2mqtt i could tell you exactly where to go to force flush group bindings, but i think i spent a full sum total of 2 hours using it)

obsidian bison
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no worries, I can figure out how to do it once I know what I'm looking for

#

any idea what I might have done wrong to bind them accidentally?

old kernel
#

it sounds like you were onto something with them maybe just binding to whatever they saw first...

obsidian bison
#

it's hard to find clear documentation

old kernel
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yup

#

what do you see for the light when you look at the 'bind' tab?

obsidian bison
#

I also have kids who play with the lights, they've managed to reset bulbs several times

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only bound to coordinator, OnOff and LevelCtrl clusters

#

I was hoping to see the remote here, but nope

old kernel
#

what does the remote show? same deal?

obsidian bison
#

also the remote is in Group 0, as you can see above

#

no, the remote is not bound to anything

old kernel
#

so "bind" is just for device bindings then

obsidian bison
#

I could try to kill that coordinator binding on the light then

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yolo, brb

simple sentinel
#

IKEA remote eyy?

old kernel
simple sentinel
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Sure you can

obsidian bison
# 
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2021-02-27 23:16:15: Received MQTT message on 'tga/T709/bridge/request/device/unbind' with data '{"clusters":["genOnOff","genLevelCtrl"],"from":"T107/1","to":"Coordinator","transaction":"fsm1u-1"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-02-27 23:16:15: Nothing to unbind from 'T107' to 'Coordinator'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2021-02-27 23:16:15: MQTT publish: topic 'tga/T709/bridge/log', payload '{"message":{"from":"T107","to":"Coordinator"},"type":"device_unbind_failed"}'
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well, apparently I can't unbind it

simple sentinel
#

Frontend works for me

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click unbind then hit a button

obsidian bison
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T709 = gateway, T107 = light

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Aqara remote, Ikea light

obsidian bison
simple sentinel
#

WebUI

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for zigbee2mqtt

obsidian bison
#

right

#

you can't change groups in webui, right?

simple sentinel
#

Sure you can

old kernel
#

maybe try tga/T709/bridge/request/group/members/remove_all with {"device":"T107"} as the payload...

simple sentinel
#

I haven't done anything but click around the web frontend

old kernel
#

where on the web frontend is group management? I see device bindings in the screenshots but not groups

obsidian bison
#

oh I see there is a separate page in the top nav for groups

old kernel
#

ah, that'd be it

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(I'm just looking at the documentation, which doesn't talk about the UI at all for groups)

simple sentinel
#

I had to set up single-entity groups for things I wanted to bind

#

just the light

#

mind you

old kernel
#

I'm going to try one of my older osrams to see if it works better than the smart+

simple sentinel
#

In the UI remotes are ready to bind once Coordinator only has a tick in the PowerCfg Cluster

obsidian bison
# 
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2021-02-27 23:25:07: MQTT publish: topic 'tga/T709/bridge/groups', payload '[{"friendly_name":"default_bind_group","id":901,"members":[]}]'
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well, according to this I have no groups set up

simple sentinel
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I'm a frontend dum-dum, so I would want to know if there are any groups on your groups page, save for maybe the default_bind_group

obsidian bison
#

...and my remote still happily turns on two lights

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no groups other than default, nothing in that group, also in webui

#

kinda weird that in my network map, those two lights are not connected directly to the gateway, they are connected to... each other?

simple sentinel
#

in the map

obsidian bison
#

ah, thanks

old kernel
#

not knowing anything about what's going on, and shooting in the dark, maybe try making 3 groups, one each for the two lights and the remote... maybe either the light or the remote or both really want to be in a group and are joining the default lightlink group because it's there...

obsidian bison
#

wouldn't the gateway see that though?

simple sentinel
#

I came in late; so there is no chance the remote - light link is actually in an HA automation in stead?

old kernel
#

that's why i was suggesting doing the remove_all. the gateway might not know about whatever groups the lights have figured out for themselves

obsidian bison
#

I just turned off HA and I can turn the lights on with one button and off with another button 🤷‍♂️

#

ooh, maybe this is a zigbee2mqtt thing

simple sentinel
#

Good then. Still never hurts to play dum-dums advocate

obsidian bison
#

turning off z2m, I'd be willing to bet the remote will stop working

simple sentinel
#

and neither the light nor the remote shows any binding to either?

obsidian bison
#

nope

simple sentinel
#

bindings, when successful work even when the gateway is down

#

that's one of the big selling points

#

or rather it's part of the zigbee spec

obsidian bison
#

ok, so check this out, HA off, Z2M off -- on my remote separate buttons do on/off/dim high/dim low

simple sentinel
#

and they keep doing that, with the infrastructure offline, yes?

obsidian bison
#

yes

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very bind much yes

mellow geode
simple sentinel
#

some googling turned up that there is such a thing as an mqtt binding is a thing

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though being a creature of the WebUI, it is outside the scope of my existence

obsidian bison
#

well the broker may be up, but z2m is off, so no mqtt binding

#

also, the remote also does dimming

old kernel
#

they must all be in the default lightlink group then

#

guessing that they joined the group without telling the controller about it

obsidian bison
#

shouldn't z2m still see that though?

#

both the remote and the light report "group 0", I probably mistakenly assumed that meant "no group"

simple sentinel
#

hmm. I don't suppose there is anything listed in under your Touchlink nav-link?

old kernel
#

oh yeah, group 0 is not 0 groups 😉

obsidian bison
#

what-link now?

old kernel
#

group 0 is the lightlink group

obsidian bison
#

oh

old kernel
#

Default Lightlink Group
0x0000
Living Room Lights
0x0003
Kitchen Lights
0x0002

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(on my system)

simple sentinel
#

Well, I have nothing like that, so I suppose I'll watch from the sidelines

obsidian bison
#

I did have the default group, I'll try to poke more in mqtt

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waiting for z2m to come up on my pi zero, this stuff takes a while

old kernel
#

ah, yeah. pizero isn't exactly a speed demon

obsidian bison
#

in the z2m docs:

The device itself is responsible for storing to which groups it belongs. Others, e.g. the coordinator, do not have knowledge to which device a groups belongs.

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apparently there is no way to query that either (?!)

old kernel
#

what a great design!

#

there is a cluster command to view groups

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i haven't figured out how to execute it though

obsidian bison
#

btw, my default group is id 901, not 0

old kernel
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huh.

simple sentinel
#

That group I do have

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it's empty

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Can't remember if I emptied it, cause I have setup z2m a grand total of one times

obsidian bison
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so yeah, just looking at debug output of z2m, the lights report group 0, the remote reports group 0

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(and z2m doesn't have a group 0)

#

also, removing lights from all groups doesn't change the fact they are in group 0

#

and removing the remote from group 0 fails with MAC transaction expired, I still have to figure out what that's all about

#

sounds like that was a good idea to actually put them in random groups to stop them from talking to each other

#

btw, unrelated, are zigbee networks fixed or can I init all devices in one room and then go plug them in where they belong?

simple sentinel
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Total stab in the dark again but these devices aren't in the 'Touchlink' category, Touchlink is between OTA and Logs in your nav-bar

obsidian bison
simple sentinel
obsidian bison
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gotcha

simple sentinel
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Battery powered devices will have a very hard time finding their way back, in some cases

obsidian bison
#

are battery powered devices also supposed to be fixed?

simple sentinel
#

Depends, depends

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in an ideal world they could traverse the mesh seamlessly

obsidian bison
#

if light bulbs are supposed to be repeaters, and the network is not dynamic, that is kind of bad, because some of my bulbs get turned off manually

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that might explain why remotes sometimes take a while / several clicks to work

simple sentinel
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Only place in my apartment where the switches aren't taped up is the bathroom, cause those switches are prescribed by law to be able to break both L and N wires in my jurisdiction.

obsidian bison
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yeah so apparently touchlink commands kill my zigbee stick

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not only they don't work, now I have to go unplug it to have zigbee work at all

simple sentinel
#

which stick are you on? 2531?

obsidian bison
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CC2652RB slaesh

simple sentinel
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Oh, same as me

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A touchlink scan doesn't impact me at all

obsidian bison
#

different firmware maybe

simple sentinel
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Yeah, I was just looking for the firmware page, because there was an update that was kind of important a while back

obsidian bison
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(that's about a P, we have RBs, but still)

simple sentinel
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have you flashed this side of 2021?

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I'm on 20210120

obsidian bison
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I haven't flashed it at all, I ordered the z2m version

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so far it Just Worked

simple sentinel
#

When did you get your stick, then? or rather when did it ship?

obsidian bison
#

good question.. erm.. this year I think

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or late December

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ah, make that late December

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so it's not flashed in 2021

simple sentinel
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Well, that puts you one flash behind the times

obsidian bison
#

oh no

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no wonder nothing works right

simple sentinel
#

Well, a firmware flash is always a good hail mary pass, either way

obsidian bison
#

yup, that's my next move

simple sentinel
#

Good news is you don't need to do any soldering or other craziness

junior sedge
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are there any pre-requisites for being able to see groups in the ZHA integration ui? I see posts which discuss being able to click "configure" on the ZHA integration, and being able to create / administer groups from here; however, mine simply has the standard entities / devices?

simple sentinel
#

I'm off, best of luck @obsidian bison

obsidian bison
#

thanks for the help @simple sentinel 🙏

old kernel
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no prerequisites

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Configuration -> Integrations -> Configure (from the Zigbee card)

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There should be Devices and Entities

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scroll / look up

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Network | Groups | Visualization

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I can't tell you how many times I forget to look up

obsidian bison
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flashed my CC2652RB, touchlink is still broken 😕

old kernel
#

what is touchlink?

simple sentinel
#

Yeah, I don't think you need it

obsidian bison
#

good question, what is touchlink?

simple sentinel
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But it's still strange it takes your z2m for a roll

obsidian bison
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Touchlink is a feature of Zigbee which allows devices physically close to each other to communicate with each other without being in the same network.

old kernel
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that doesn't seem useful

simple sentinel
#

Seemed almost apropos to your issues but not really

obsidian bison
#

Zigbee2MQTT allows to factory reset devices through Touchlink.

#

that's pretty useful

old kernel
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ooh, yeah

obsidian bison
#

no more clicking lights on and off like a maniac

simple sentinel
#

A true shot in the dark if ever there was one

old kernel
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i've definitely spent 5-10 minutes trying to get the ledvance reset sequence just right not understanding why it isn't working, just to realize i'm trying to reset a CREE bulb

obsidian bison
#

that bulb might have some kind of logic in it too, maybe it works

old kernel
#

one of my table lamps has a dying switch so i have to climb under the furniture and unplug/plug in the mains outlet at the right sequence. i wouldn't categorize it as fun

obsidian bison
#

or you get root on the listening device big brother has on you

old kernel
#

🙂

obsidian bison
#

that's my remaining idea for today, I'll go reset the lights and the remote

plucky kernel
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Hello zigbee2mqtt - I don't see new device with CC2531 😦

obsidian bison
#

I had that once, reflashing the 2531 made it work 😬

old kernel
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i think i switched back and forth between zigbee2mqtt and zha maybe 3 times. that was a lot of resetting

simple sentinel
#

I can't read my own sentences anymore, so this time it's off to bed

old kernel
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z2m kept forgetting about my thermostats though

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ah well. @plucky kernel anything in logs?

junior sedge
plucky kernel
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@old kernel to many logs to paste , whic is the best for You? from supervisor or this inside addon ?

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ok now i see this

"21-02-27 22:32:22 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.api.ingress] Ingress error: Cannot connect to host 172.30.33.3:8099 ssl:default [Connect call failed ('172.30.33.3', 8099)]
"

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8099 is my port for zigbeee2mqtt maybye this one?

junior sedge
#

what does it mean if i have an orphan inside the network visualisation? i can see the device on the "network visualisation" tab, and in my devices, but it appears to have no link to any other device in the network

#

the device also does not show up as a possibility to add to a group, whereas all my other devices do

old kernel
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maybe try re-adding it?

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i had some similar trouble with some of my lights until i added a repeater

obsidian bison
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so I just did another reset on light1, and the remote issue seems to be solved?!

plucky kernel
#

i try sonoff devces (all ) and blitzwolf 13

old kernel
obsidian bison
#

also, I can't reach light2 now -- I don't understand how my network was set up

old kernel
#

just wait until your kids flip them on and off in just the right sequence that they decide to re-link themselves to the remote

obsidian bison
#

🙈

old kernel
#

my solution was to put a smart switch on the wall, disable the relay, and use the switch as a scene controller that controls the lights through HA/groups/whatever

obsidian bison
#

I'm renting so I can't mess with the stuff in the walls

old kernel
#

ah

obsidian bison
#

but I have taped some of them off

old kernel
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i changed the switches even when i was renting, and just changed 'em back before i left 😄

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that was when the house came with horrible dimmer switches that would flicker though...

obsidian bison
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yeah, apparently if I do that and the house burns down, it's on me

old kernel
#

oh. mmm, valid concern

simple sentinel
#

had to come back and say, apparently touchlink made my zigbee network explode too, just didn't notice until I fired my good night script and the lights wouldn't go off 🤣
Seriously, have a zigbeetastic rest of your day/evening/night/morning

old kernel
#

doh! sleep well

gloomy pivot
#

oh I also tried putting the bulb in a group and binding the remote to the group, but then it just doesn't work lol

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have also tried legacy: false and legacy: true, as mentioned in the aurora docs linked above, but I can't tell that it has any effect whatsoever on any behavior

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not sure what exactly it affects for these

deep bay
#

Hi! Is the the right place to get help, if you cant connect/find a single Zigbee device? (Raspberry pi 3 + Hassos_rpi3-5.12 + Conbee 2 + deconz + Phoscon )

grizzled arrow
#

Is it possible to clear the known actions for a Zigbee device (zigbee2mqtt) ? I have setup a device with legacy:false, now some shown actions are not valid anymore.

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Or do I have to remove/re-pair it?

sour shadow
junior sedge
#

Are there any resources which help explain / debug binding? I am trying to bind a new device, which is failing, but as a test ive also been trying to bind a simple switch to a Zigbee light group.Doing it through the UI just gives no feedback whatsoever, though it apparently didnt work since pushing the switch has no effect on the lights. Are there any resources on this? Thanks!

mild wraith
#

Hi, i got a Busch-Jaeger 6737 hooked up to ZHA through a Sonoff ZBridge. I can switch the light fine over ZHA but struggle getting events for the 6 other buttons to trigger scenes. I tried enabling debug logging and listened for zha_events without any trace of those buttons. Do you have any hints on how to proceed tracing those button presses to find out where they turn up or get lost?

junior sedge
#

i consistently get a message along the lines of "Bind_req 00:00:00:00:00:00;00, ep: x, cluster: x to group: 0x000x failed: [0xxxxx:0:0xxxxx]: Message send failure" whenever i try to bind controllers (an Aqara switch or an Aurora dimmer) to my Hue lights (through ZHA w/ Sonoff ZBBRIDGE). Does anyone know if this is a limitation of the hue lights, the controllers, or something I'm doing? All in the same room with high linkquality etc

molten linden
#

are you clicking the buttons when issuing the bind command?

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i usually do this from my phone, and literally hit the button and the bind command repeatedly until the light starts responding directly to the button press.

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^ repeatedly with small delay between each attempt

junior sedge
grizzled arrow
junior sedge
#

I was describing a similar issue with a new device yesterday, which doesn't generate any zha events at all. You can see the raw zigbee transmissions (turn on logging as per the Zha integration page and watch the logs) but no zha_event generated no matter what I push

junior sedge
#

Does anyone know why no zha_event would be generated even though the message is captured?

austere patio
#

Can you upload the surrounding section of logs to a pastebin of some kind?

junior sedge
#

It seems to be a couple of spare bytes but the command is understood, it just doesnt fire any events

austere patio
#

Looks like it's parsed fine by ZHA so the automation triggers are the only things left to write: received 'step' command with [0, 26, 3] args on cluster_id '8' tsn '115'

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And the level control works: received attribute: 0 update with value: 254

junior sedge
#

As i understand it, ive already written some of them, and none of them trigger as far as i can tell. I might have messed up the conditions? The triggers are right st the bottom of the post. I thought zha_events should be triggered even if automation triggers weren't explicitly written?

austere patio
#

You do have two duplicate (SHORT_PRESS, BUTTON) keys in your dictionary so only the second value will be stored

austere patio
junior sedge
# austere patio You do have two duplicate `(SHORT_PRESS, BUTTON)` keys in your dictionary so onl...

Good point, thanks! Still, that won't mask the two dimming commands, which are the two I've been focussing on. I'm still a bit confused about the lack of zha events - i may be completely misunderstanding, but I thought a zha event should be fired for every parsed command, whether or not it's associated with an explicit automation trigger? This allows me to e.g. use zha_event in automations even for devices without explicit automation triggers. Have I misunderstood, or is there an issue related to the lack of event firings?

austere patio
#

That I'm not sure about. I don't know ZHA internals well enough to debug this but I'm sure someone who does will either ping you here or comment on the GitHub issue

gloomy pivot
junior sedge
gloomy pivot
#

have also tried removing/resetting/pairing all the devices multiple times, no dice

smoky siren
#

Can a Hue bridge be used for other zigbee devices? I have Hue bridge and I like some of the remote blueprints all of which seem to use zigbee.

fading briar
#

Howdy. Almost complete newb at all this - I've got HA installed in a docker & I'm doing presence monitoring on all our phones via connection to WiFi, so I've managed that... I have a ConBee 2 stick on order. What things should I consider when deciding between deCONZ, ZHA & Zigbee2MQTT when choosing which integration to install?

sour shadow
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See the pinned message about the different install types

tender moat
#

Hi guys, I have an Aqara Curtain motor. How do i go about installing it in home assistant? I have a conbeeiii usb stick. Is that all i need?

sour shadow
#

Yes, that and your chosen integration - you too should see the pinned messages 😉

#

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant ...

fading briar
sour shadow
#

👍

#

IMO mostly it's a choice between ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT, though for those the Conbee isn't the best choice shrug

tender moat
#

I think I can see the device in 'Devices', but it is named 'Unnamed Device''

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And there are no configurations or options for it. Just an empty device

sour shadow
#

How did you integrate it?

tender moat
#

I plugged in my conbee and installed the 'deCONZ' integration

sour shadow
#

Ok, so then you need to check the deCONZ UI and see how it shows there

tender moat
#

If i have a conbee stick, am i able to check out other ingragrations, like zigbe2mqtt ? Or am i restricted to deconz

sour shadow
#

Yes you can - support for it in other integrations varies though

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If it's Conbee II then it's supported by Z2M, but experimental

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ZHA simply lists it as supported

drifting thistle
#

what sort of support? remote device support or is its connection just flakey

tender moat
#

Sweet I'll check them out thanks Tinkerer

sour shadow
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Supported == works

#

Whether that's well or just barely ... shrug

#

I know ZHA recommends the EmberZNet based sticks

drifting thistle
#

been wondering about this for a bit. i already started on conbee II + deconz on a pi with HA OS.

what would be improved if i switched to z2m? or zha? I'd be ok with buying another stick if there were tangible benefits outside of the support matrix i can see on https://zigbee.blakadder.com

sour shadow
#

Mostly device support, and pace of change on those

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deCONZ seems to move slowly, though it has improved

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The pace of change on both ZHA and Z2M is fast, and new device support is a thing you can help with, or just do

drifting thistle
#

Ah perfect to know, thanks!

gloomy pivot
#

anybody else have lutron auroras in z2m? I think tube uses them in zha 🤔

tender moat
#

Got it Tinkerer. Found the aqara curtain. I send it a command to open, but it only opens up to half the way. Are there any configurations I can check out?

#

I found it using the deCONZ integration by the way

sour shadow
#

Does it work in the deCONZ UI?

tender moat
#

It just appeared in the 'Devices' of HA, and I opened it there. Under the label integration, it states 'deconz'

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I can also see it in the Phoscon app, but there are no configurations there. Just the name of the device

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Basically, I set it to open to 100. But it only goes up to 50% and stops.

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Not sure if there is a way to tell it that my rail is twice as big

dawn summit
#

I got my Conbee 2 in December, but there were issues with deCONZ at the time, and I only just got around to trying it again. I'm in the web GUI, trying to find my IKEA Tradfri outlet, the Tradfri on/off dimmer, or my Lidl/Silvercrest outlet. All three devices blink, confirming they're in discovery mode, but somehow deCONZ just doesn't find anything. The Docker container's logs (looks like the deCONZ output) doesn't show anything worrying.

Not sure where best to ask what could be going wrong here, or what other details would be useful 🙂

dawn summit
#

Same for my Aqara motion sensor, by the way.

austere patio
#

First production network migration of a CC2531 w/ Z-Stack Home 1.2 to a Tube's CC2652P hub is a success!

tropic depot
#

awesome!

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i'll be trying a migration from the husbzb1 to an ezsp one next week hopefully

heavy depot
#

Hi - Just got HA (moved from HomeBridge - and I am very happy with that decision! :)). Love it so far. But can anybody answer me why my bulbs behave like this? That didn't happen with HomeBridge: https://youtu.be/gtviKP7rPwk

fierce canyon
sour shadow
#

You pair it in Z2M

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Z2M has it's own UI you can (and should) enable that handles that for you

fierce canyon
#

Well in the UI I can;t find it or when I use scna option it does not find 😦

drifting thistle
#

i've seen people automate light strips where they can show progress bars or animating motion. Is this possible with HA, and if so with a zigbee device?

sour shadow
sour shadow
fierce canyon
#

@sour shadow I started the Web UI i see an empty list with devics

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Permit is enabled so devices can pair

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but still no succes 😦

sour shadow
#

Well, now you have to put the device into pairing mode, and keep it awake until it pairs

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It will need to be relatively near the USB stick - in the same room or the one next to it

fierce canyon
#

Thnaks i wil try that now out

drifting thistle
#

Ah thanks, so WLED is usually hooked up with an ESP32 that uses wifi? Are you familiar with any that i can buy off the shelf?

jolly narwhal
#

Or an esp8266

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And I order all of mine from AliExpress

sour shadow
#

If you want to dive down the rabbit hole, DrZzs has a whole channel for it

drifting thistle
#

Is it pretty plug-n-play? I'm sure i could figure it out, but i'd rather spend a little more than take time to figure it out.

sour shadow
#

There's an LED lighting channel there, with a bunch of scary folks

drifting thistle
#

ah, i think one of his videos is probably where i saw it, but i'll ask in there. Thanks!

fierce canyon
#

@sour shadow do you have any expiercen with sonoff mini zigbee? I hold the button for 5 seconds but nothing happens with flashing led

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i hear only the relai switching

sour shadow
sour shadow
fierce canyon
#

@sour shadow Thanks anyway for the help!

grizzled arrow
#

@grizzled arrow anybody has an idea?

pulsar skiff
#

Hey everyone, just recently installed home assistant and today picked up a Lidl smart plug thinking it could interact with the pi I have set up but I don't know how/if that would work

grizzled arrow
#

Is it possible to clear the known actions for a Zigbee device (zigbee2mqtt) ? I have setup a device with legacy:false, now some shown actions are not valid anymore.

grizzled arrow
#

I also have some Lidl smart plugs

pulsar skiff
#

Ahh so the home assistant isn't also a hub?

sour shadow
grizzled arrow
#

I have a zigbe2mqtt cheap ali stick and I can pair it

sour shadow
#

And yes, HA is a hub, but it needs radio hardware for Zigbee

grizzled arrow
#

Home assistant needs to communicate with the smart plug and the smart plug speaks Zigbee

pulsar skiff
#

What's the radio hardware? I'm guessing not a wifi card

sour shadow
#

A Zigbee USB stick

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One that's supported by your choice of Zigbee integration

#

Just, don't buy the CC2531 or CC2530 😉

grizzled arrow
#

10% discount code: HEY-SAMY-2021

#

I bought one today 😉

#

I have the cc2530 now and want to upgrade

#

Sonoff also has a cheap stick based on the cc2530 you can use for zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
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I've got a couple of the Zig-A-Zig-Ah! sticks (primary, and a spare in case I somehow screw this one up) and a Slaesh to turn into a router some day

#

Just, don't buy the CC2531 or CC2530 😉

grizzled arrow
#

Zzh, is not available at the moment.

sour shadow
grizzled arrow
#

From the tindie site

sour shadow
#

Don't touch the 30/31

jolly narwhal
#

Cc1352p2

grizzled arrow
#

Somebody has an answer on my question?

sour shadow
#

What was your question?

sour shadow
grizzled arrow
#

Is it possible to clear the known actions for a Zigbee device (zigbee2mqtt) ? I have setup a device with legacy:false, now some shown actions are not valid anymore.

sour shadow
#

I'd ask on the Zigbee2MQTT Discord, but probably you have to clear the Discovery topic

grizzled arrow
#

I looked at it using an MQTT explorer yes, that might be it

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I’ll asked over there

gloomy pivot
#

is there anywhere to easily see which things legacy affects for specific devices?

zenith barn
#

Hello! I want to help adding support for ZYCT-202 remote control to ZHA.

However, I only have one ConBee stick, and it's connected to a RPi running HA OS; and since that's my main HA instance I don't want to take it down. Can I help adding support for that remote, or do I need a separate zigbee stick to develop/debug?

old kernel
#

So zigbee locks support an additional "APS Security" layer on top of the built in zigbee network security.
Does anyone know if either ZHA or zigbee2mqtt supports it?

austere patio
#

Not directly but if you're using ZHA with zigpy-znp you can enable it with a little hackery (you can likely do the same with zigbee-herdsman)

#

It's supported by most (all?) zigbee 3.0 devices

old kernel
#

Hmm, maybe I'll look at that hackery a little later

austere patio
#

Ping me if you want to give it a try

old kernel
#

thanks, will do.

#

right now i'm working on lock user code stuff

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i have a zha_event for keypad access that kicks back the user code slot, working on services to set codes now

quaint sinew
#

@grizzled arrow I read about your slaesh stick order and cant resist to tell you: If you experience connectivity / lag problems, use a USB extension cord on the stick. Cost me about 2 days of troubleshooting for such a simple solution. Other than that, the stick is awesome !

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it can cause problems when its too close to other signal sources or, as for me, the rpi4 hardware

polar forge
#

It both looks like it exists, and that I have to manually create it in a folder (which the instructions don't tell me where that folder is)

stone halo
#

im scared im going to get 2 slaesh sticks

sour shadow
#

You can flash one as a router

stone halo
#

i just want my order cancelled!!

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i dont need them

#

they are too expensive

sour shadow
old kernel
#

don't need either one?

stone halo
#

i just need one for my room haha

old kernel
#

i agree they're too expensive

stone halo
#

one is almost overkill for my room

old kernel
#

but the guy is charging based on his time, so i guess it's just too expensive against mass produced sticks

stone halo
#

yeah im fine with the pice for one

old kernel
#

whereabouts are you? for me the shipping is what killed it...

stone halo
#

but i just want one of the orders cancelled, paypal fucked it up

#

netherlands

old kernel
#

oh no, so you're paying for the whole enchilada twice, not even getting the combined ship

stone halo
#

yeah

#

hes just dead

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telegram havent seen in amonth

old kernel
#

well, if two show up, you can probably get back what you're into it if you can find someone local who wants one and doesn't want to wait a month...

stone halo
#

yeah

#

tho that will be lots of effort

old kernel
#

yeah

#

i have way too many 'oh i can just sell it' things taking up shelf space

stone halo
#

theres no contact opportunities active either

#

its gonna suck

#

KoenKK is local tho whahaha

#

Doubt he's gonna buy more

plush latch
#

anybody having issues with SYMFONISK Rotary Encoder from IKEA?

#

I maneged to connect to deconz (conbee II)

#

Im using hassio, but when I start listening deconz_event nothing happens

stone halo
#

+1 he should implement a better way to cancel orders lol

#

I emailed him to his paypal email, i hope to see result. this doesnt have to become a problem hahah

jolly narwhal
#

How much is the stick?

stone halo
#

40 bucks total, but as a student thats quite a sum

jolly narwhal
#

Eh, I haven't been a student in 20 years so I can't tell anymore 🤣

old kernel
#

are there any cc1352p2 sticks?

jolly narwhal
#

Sticks? Not seen

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Dev boards yes

stone halo
old kernel
#

i think my partner might be less than thrilled about a dev board in the living room 🙂

stone halo
jolly narwhal
#

@stone halo I'd get 5 tradfri ones 🤣

stone halo
#

tradfri costs like 25 for full colour tho!

jolly narwhal
#

RGB 🤢

old kernel
#

my conbee2 is irritating, but works for now...

jolly narwhal
#

CTyes

old kernel
#

CT?

jolly narwhal
#

Colour temperature

stone halo
old kernel
#

RGBWWCW FTW 🙂

jolly narwhal
#

🤢

stone halo
stone halo
jolly narwhal
#

Ambilight no Hyperion yes

stone halo
jolly narwhal
#

Pass 🤣

stone halo
#

in a single room i need everything haha

#

i could also get the bars from lidl

zenith barn
heavy depot
#

Hi - Just got HA (moved from HomeBridge - and I am very happy with that decision! :)). Love it so far. But can anybody answer me why my bulbs behave like this? That didn't happen with HomeBridge: https://youtu.be/gtviKP7rPwk sometimes they don't all turn on, sometimes it turn only 1 on, etc when controller as group OR individually

#

Also scenes often don't work

zenith barn
#

I have no idea… However, you should also specify what kind of lights are those, and what integration you are using.

#

Hopefully, that will help narrowing down the issue and someone would be able to help. But I myself have no idea. You can also try https://community.home-assistant.io/ . And, well, bye for today!

carmine steeple
#

Hi Everyone, I am hoping this is the right place and that someone can help me get zigbee2mqtt configured with a sonoff zigbee bridge.

This is what I have for the Zigbee2Mqtt add-on config:

serial:
port: 'socket://192.168.27.58:8888'

I get this:

npm ERR! zigbee2mqtt@1.17.1 start: node index.js
npm ERR! Exit status 1
npm ERR!
npm ERR! Failed at the zigbee2mqtt@1.17.1 start script.
npm ERR! This is probably not a problem with npm. There is likely additional logging output above.
npm ERR! A complete log of this run can be found in:
npm ERR! /root/.npm/_logs/2021-02-28T23_16_34_730Z-debug.log
[15:16:34] INFO: Handing over control to Zigbee2mqtt Core ...

zigbee2mqtt@1.17.1 start /app
node index.js
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-02-28 15:16:36: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-02-28 15:16:36: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-02-28 15:16:36: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-02-28 15:16:36: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open socket://192.168.27.58:8888'
at Znp.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.js:136:32)
at Generator.next (<anonymous>)
at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.js:27:71
at new Promise (<anonymous>)
at __awaiter (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.js:23:12)
at SerialPort.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.js:134:49)
at SerialPort._error (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/node_modules/@serialport/stream/lib/index.js:198:14)
at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/node_modules/@serialport/stream/lib/index.js:242:12
npm ERR! code ELIFECYCLE
npm ERR! errno 1

summer thicket
unborn compass
#

(or if there was something I could do to facilitate that :P)

old kernel
#

@carmine steeple 6. Spam will not be tolerated, including but not limited to: self-promotion, flooding, codewalls (longer than 15 lines - use Hastebin or similar³) and unapproved bots.
^^ specifically the 15 lines thing.

austere patio
austere patio
molten linden
old kernel
#

ooh good point

scarlet gust
austere patio
#

That poor thing

#

This link is implemented using a COTS 802.15.4 (Zig-Bee) standard 900 MHz chipset, SiFlex 02, originally manufactured by LS Research: I wonder if they're implementing a custom protocol on top of the the underlying layer (IEEE 802.15.4) and not Zigbee itself, since I don't think there's a real use for mesh networking and encryption on Mars with just two nodes.

near echo
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It should be a sub-ghz band. I think the idea is that when future equipments are deployed they would seamlessy connect and thereby also extend the range. Moreover, as most of the zigbee chips are compatible with thread (a better network IMHO) it would be simpler to just upgrade. Unless of course if something goes wrong and somebody needs to re-pair "rotating it's propellers probably 3 times" 😀

molten linden
carmine steeple
carmine steeple
unborn compass
carmine steeple
carmine steeple
scarlet gust
scarlet gust
carmine steeple
carmine steeple
scarlet gust
#

all good

carmine steeple
carmine steeple
unborn compass
#

Should be one of the entities that show up if it does.

carmine steeple
# scarlet gust all good

I using it with tasmota. I have it successfully set up in mqtt. I an trying to communiicate with it using home assistant without going the ZHA route. It does work using that method,

carmine steeple
carmine steeple
# scarlet gust all good

The documentation suggests this is possible, but I have not found any examples of this use case with Z2M. The Z@M add-on in HA also has a config for socat which from what I can tell is a way to make it work.

scarlet gust
#

Please stop replying to me

carmine steeple
radiant moth
#

I use it with ZHA. Why not do it that way?

scarlet gust
#

Ah, nah I was asking an unrelated question

#

Hope someone’s able to help

grizzled arrow
#

@carmine steeple The Sonoff Zigbee Brigde, which I also used and bricked.. You have to use it with ZHA, not zigbee2mqtt

radiant moth
grizzled arrow
#

I was expirimenting with different firmwares of the Zigbee model

#

the uart file

#

My IKEA remotes had a battery drain issue and there was e dev version solving this. But after updating it, connections were lost, and after some fidling, I did not had an IP anymore, so I cant connect to tasmota anymore.

#

I might need to start over again, but for now I'm using the cc2531 with extention cable. The slae.sh is on its way. 😉

radiant moth
#

I should have used an extension cable, maybe. I just couldn't countenance spending $30 on a CC debugger to fix a $10 product. It wasn't just that the firmware got corrupted on the CC2531, twice, it was often just plain flaky, requiring a restart of HA or even powercycling of the RPi. Every few days the unicorns would descend. I've only had the Sonoff for 8 days but not one issue so far, which is already better than I ever had from the CC2531.

jolly narwhal
#

To be fair, noone should be running on a cc2531 as a coordinator

#

A router, sure

radiant moth
#

But they are sold as that

jolly narwhal
#

I've had months of uptime on my cc1352p2, running totally seperate from HA

radiant moth
#

Call me old-fashioned, but something that's sold as a co-ordinator should work as one

jolly narwhal
#

Lada Nivas are sold as cars

#

They shouldn't be

radiant moth
#

Fair point. How does your CC1352p2 connect to your server? What is your server?

thorny phoenix
#

@jolly narwhal how u reached your cc1352p2 if you run totally apart from ha server?

verbal shale
#

does anyone with zha and a bunch of bulbs in the same zha group (like 10 or more) ?

#

i have a probleme with slow response with ZHA Group of 13 bulbs

mellow geode
#

When turning them on and off as well as changing brightness I don't have any problems.

#

However, when changing the color (also color temperature), I often had a slow response time (especially noticeable on ConBee and EZSP based dongles)

jolly narwhal
#

@radiant moth Runs on a raspberry pi 🤢 with raspberry pi os and zigbee2mqtt, that connects to my main mosquitto server instance @thorny phoenix

#

No issues with bigger groups and zigbee2mqtt @verbal shale , my bulbs adjust every 3 minutes in both brightness and CT

#

biggest group is 18 lights

verbal shale
#

but if you go and change, it change imidiattly?

jolly narwhal
#

I can't see all the bulbs at once, but if I move about, yes all the bulbs change immediatly

verbal shale
#

:S

jolly narwhal
#

within 1-2 seconds which it takes me to move to see all bulbs

verbal shale
#

on zha i need to wait 3 seconds wth zha group

#

:S

jolly narwhal
#

I need to recheck, but pretty sure almost all my lights are direct children of the coordinator too

#

the coverage of the cc1352p2 is insane

mellow geode
verbal shale
#

Sonoff Zigbee Bridge

mellow geode
#

And is the lag different when turning them on/off vs. changing color/(color temperature)?

verbal shale
#

sometimes

#

yes

#

more laggy when chaging collors

mellow geode
#

It's way better on the TI coordinators (but still somewhat present)

junior sedge
#

when writing quirks, I had naively assumed that the first tuple in the device_automation_triggers dictionary at the bottom was simply a descriptor, i.e. in (SHORT_PRESS, BUTTON_1) : { command... }, that the first tuple is simply a placeholder for the text which appears in automations, and the pattern-matching should be performed on the command, endpoint, cluster and args? However, from https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/dev/homeassistant/components/zha/device_trigger.py#L43-L65, it's actually this on which the pattern matching happens (and I guess I should have realised that, given it was the dict key, but still)

#

so i was wondering, how do i determine which trigger configuration will be pattern matched against? it's clearly from line 45 trigger = (config[CONF_TYPE], config[CONF_SUBTYPE]) in the link I sent, but I don't know where config is defined (CONF_TYPE and CONF_SUBTYPE are just consts for "type" and "subtype", respectively)

#

is anyone able to point me to where i might find this out?

#

or let me know if i've got the wrong end of the stick entirely

fierce canyon
#

Hello Guys,

I hava Aqara motion sensor RTCGQ11LM but my zigbee2mqtt can't find the motion sensors any one have a clue?
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/RTCGQ11LM.html I used this and put it in configuration yaml file of home assistant also with that I cant't see the devices
z

jolly narwhal
#

I run a bunch of those with zigbee2mqtt

#

Is zigbee2mqtt in join enabled mode?

#

I do fully discovery with mqtt

#

Nothing in my config to have it in ha

fierce canyon
#

@jolly narwhal Yes join permit all is enabled and I addd mqtt: discovery true to configruation file of HA

#

How long did you press on the side button to pair?

jolly narwhal
#

Can you see the device in the zigbee2mqtt webui?

fierce canyon
#

Nope nothing

#

its an empty list

jolly narwhal
#

I press it till it starts blinking, then I release it

#

What coordinator do you have?

fierce canyon
#

I have an CC2531 flashed with raspberry pi

#

succesfully flashed

jolly narwhal
#

Are you within 50cm of the coordinator when pairing? That coordinator has horrible range, even worse without an antenna

fierce canyon
#

oke no I am not let me do it

jolly narwhal
#

And you have no routers?

fierce canyon
#

I tried that also

#

I have just one Router in the network where every devices is connected to

jolly narwhal
#

A bulb ?

fierce canyon
#

Uhm switches and hue go light

#

no bulb

jolly narwhal
#

Wired switches?

#

Only wired devices are routers

mellow geode
jolly narwhal
#

Really?

mellow geode
#

Yeah

fierce canyon
#

Well then i have also an Ring Alarm

jolly narwhal
#

And those work via zigbee2mqtt?

#

As expected at least

old kernel
fierce canyon
#

But I pressed on the button and released it when I saw blue flickeirng light

mellow geode
# jolly narwhal Really?

It's mainly powered by 24V/12V (depends on v1 vs v2) but both of them are routers.
I don't know if there's anybody using Hue Go lights on battery most of time.

fierce canyon
#

Currently nothing works with zigbee2mqtt

jolly narwhal
#

Then you have no routers

fierce canyon
#

So I am missing a router, which one do I need then or how do I need to confiugre that?

#

I might missed some crucial information then

#

But I have flashed the CC2531

jolly narwhal
#

The cc2531 is... Horrible, if you have an antenna on it it becomes bearable, but you still need routers for proper coverage

radiant moth
#

any powered device is a router

jolly narwhal
#

If your house is bigger than one room

summer thicket
#

I'm betting no coordinator setup in Z2M

fierce canyon
#

I have mqqt broker in HA

radiant moth
#

check the debug in z2m. It's pretty verbose

fierce canyon
#

let me check moment

#

Well I am lost in the log, but I dont see any errors or warnings in it

jolly narwhal
#

The start of the log

molten linden
jolly narwhal
#

Will say if it sees the coordinator

fierce canyon
#

@jolly narwhal this is the log

jolly narwhal
#

I see no coordinator

fierce canyon
#

So it doesnt see the usb stick?

#

That is what I can conclude if I read this:

In the case of Zigbee2MQTT, the coordinator is your CC2531 USB stick.

junior sedge
sour shadow
#

Please go and read #rules - particularly rule #6 about not posting codewalls (over 15 lines) 😉

#

If you want to go and re-post that use a code sharing site 😉

fierce canyon
#

Sorry

#

Thanks! I will do that

old kernel
fierce canyon
jolly narwhal
#

sure, but that doesn't mean you have passed your coordinator to zigbee2mqtt

junior sedge
old kernel
#

oh yeah, tell me about it... my family wasn't super thrilled about how much it wasn't working this weekend 🙂

#

modifying the running code in place on the container on my host definitely made me a bit uneasy

junior sedge
#

i don't even want a dimmer switch!

old kernel
#

i put in 5 new dimmer switches over xmas and i'm wishing i'd gone for smart bulbs and scene controllers instead

#

but at 20 - 30 a pop i'm not about to pull them back out

junior sedge
#

i couldn't find a reasonable, already-supported wall-mount 2 gang dimmer in the UK

#

hence the hassle with setting up this new one

#

the quirk was quick but hadn't anticipated present problems RE lack of events firing etc

#

also, i am slightly worried by this bit of code: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/16dcbf1467246d18e7c55575f53f01032e4c1ece/homeassistant/components/zha/core/channels/general.py#L242 which looks like if i can get events working, it's going to emit an event to set the level at a particular point every time. the issue is that my dimmer does emit attribute updates for current_level, but the value is always the same [254], so i wonder if the brightness will change with line 238 in that code (whenever "step" is triggered), then be set back to 254 by line 242...

summer thicket
#

@fierce canyon check port, run test -w /dev/ttyACM0 && echo success || echo failure

mellow geode
#

(Let's hope they come with new firmware lol)

old kernel
mellow geode
dawn summit
#

Are there any dedicated (community) support channels for Conbee/deCONZ/Phoscon?

old kernel
old kernel
mellow geode
old kernel
mellow geode
#

doubt it

old kernel
#

i'll have to poke around and see if i can find anything. now that I replaced the smart+ with osrams i haven't had random ghost turn-on multiple times a day, but it'd still be nice to set a default to off

mellow geode
#

Ah, that's nice.

#

So you replaced the newer SMART+ bulbs with the older Lightify bulbs?

dawn summit
old kernel
#

and those were all older lightify

mellow geode
#

Huh, it's good that they work for you. I've always had problems with any OSRAM/LEDVANCE product basically.

jolly narwhal
#

I've only seen issues with Osram online

#

So I stayed away

#

and most shops here have stopped selling them

old kernel
#

i know the osrams are problematic, but i can't justify 15-25 bucks a bulb * 20 bulbs

jolly narwhal
#

Tradfri life yes

old kernel
#

and i really haven't actually had any problems with the osram osrams

jolly narwhal
#

I usually buy them on sale for USD6-9 each

old kernel
#

yeah but we went over this a couple days ago, i wanted RGB + tunable white

jolly narwhal
#

oh right

mellow geode
#

Yeah, apart from some TRADFRI lights buzzing all the time, I also like them.
But I've had them crash so often that I needed to install a smart plug/shelly to reboot them.

old kernel
#

^ yes that (the color dog, not the buzzing)

jolly narwhal
#

Really buzzing ? I have none in any of my bulbs

#

I've even went and listened

mellow geode
#

The new color GU10 bulbs all have this problem

#

and some of their older E14 lights

jolly narwhal
#

I run 14 GU10 outdoors

#

CT only

mellow geode
#

Ah. They're also fine for me

jolly narwhal
#

And I have 12 brightness only E14 and 8 CT E14

mellow geode
#

Are those the "round" (600lm, older model more prone to buzzing) or candle shaped CT E14s (470lm, newer model and no buzzing?

jolly narwhal
#

candle shaped brightness only (2 years old) and bulb shaped CT ones 1-2 years old

#

LED1649C5 This one for candles

#

LED1536G5 this one for bulb

mellow geode
jolly narwhal
#

no issues whatsoever

#

Some of the first bulbs I bought 2-2.5 years ago

junior sedge
old kernel
#

that's so weird

junior sedge
#

it's always 254, no matter how many times it's been turned etc

mellow geode
junior sedge
#

it may be that it expects some sort of response that I'm not giving it back, so that it knows the message was received?

#

not sure

#

fundamentally, i don't really mind - i'd rather have the lights / HA being the "master", rather than the dimmer - for instance, if i change the lighting with HA, I'd prefer that the dimmer then controls from the current level, rather than its own stored level

#

i don't know if it's possible to throw away the attribute updates

#

with a quirk?

mellow geode
#

It should be possible I think

junior sedge
#

it might be possible with a custom cluster or so, if i can override the attribute callbacks. However, if i can get it running so it emits an event whenever that happens, i can just ignore the event, as long as i dont connect them directly via zigbee [which is a pain and id rather it didnt work that way]

#

Still, if i can get over the no-events hurdle ill be very happy

#

A bit confused / worried by all the people who seemingly fix these issues,which pop up quite regularly, by changing coodinator or buying new devices...

jolly narwhal
#

To me it seems 99% of all issues are related to people using CC2531

#

🤣

#

without antennas, directly in a pi

#

on the other side of the house

austere patio
#

Worked fine for my network for a week 🤷‍♂️

#

A good portion of those issues are probably due to the CC2531 periodically locking up

#

And requiring a physical hardware reset to get working, which is probably done after many other fruitless attempts at fixing the problem

jolly narwhal
#

I haven't had a single issue with my cc1352p2 since z2m 1.14, the firmware updates and software side of it just keeps on kicking

austere patio
jolly narwhal
#

oh nice, my bulbs are now getting ZB3.0 firmware

radiant moth
#

I had no range issue with CC2531 as my board had a decent antenna. The problem was in it retaining its firmware.

jolly narwhal
#

I love how ikea is adding that to old bulbs

# 
TRÅDFRI Driver & Warm White 1.0 (V-2.3.068). FW upgraded to ZB3.0.
old kernel
jolly narwhal
#

IKEA pug_dance

austere patio
#

Please fix that stack lockup bug, ikea.....

old kernel
#

but hey, it means i can buy more bulbs on fleabay and fill up the house with buggy bulbs for cheap

#

those tradfri CTs are tempting though for places i don't need color

austere patio
jolly narwhal
#

I have one RGB tradfri, for my daughters room

old kernel
spice kelp
#

with all this talk about part numbers, do the deconz devices use one of the standard chips or is it in-house?

radiant moth
austere patio
#

Cargo cult debugging 😆

old kernel
radiant moth
austere patio
#

Well, it's the similar type of logic that's behind the "increment the PAN ID by 1" if it fails to load

old kernel
austere patio
#

Right, but there are ways to factory reset the CC2531 and similar chips without reflashing the firmware

#

And especially for tiny hardware sellers who will have to take a loss on return shipping or replacing "dead" products due to some firmware bug that can be at least "fixed" without a hardware replacement

balmy ginkgo
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Hi, my deconz keeps showing a raspbee, but i only have 1 USB device plugged in. https://i.imgur.com/Pbk2Tx0.png
How can i remove the raspbee entry? (The HA dropdown for the deconz add-on config shows the device for the raspbee u see.. so that's bad)

old kernel
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i think i might just keep trucking along with my sometimes-problematic-but-currently-stable conbee until someone comes along with a new mass produced stick

stone halo
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Are the Lidl bulbs any good?

balmy ginkgo
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Do devices go offline after they haven't found a network for a while?

radiant moth
# stone halo Are the Lidl bulbs any good?

I have some Lidl E27 RGB which were good for while I used them (now replaced with IKEA LED filament). Colours are fine but they don't dim very far. At 1% they're still fairly bright.

stone halo
stone halo
balmy ginkgo
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I was gonna get some, then found out i had to go pick them up. No delivery. Sad.

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I was gonna get some IKEA, then found out i had to go pick them up. No delivery. Sad.

junior sedge
radiant moth
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Ikea delivers in the UK. Lidl you have to take your chances. They restocked their Smart Home products last week, but who knows if what you want is in the store when you get there. No way to find out.

balmy ginkgo
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deleting and re-adding all my sonoff motion sensors, only way to get them back online.

radiant moth
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At Christmas I had to go to 3 Lidl stores to find 4 RGB GU10s as IKEA had a 3-week delivery. This is because I'm too cheap to spend more money

junior sedge
old kernel
junior sedge
old kernel
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i guess most of my problems in z2m were around thermostats. it seems that the code to send updates to sleepy battery devices is broken

fresh citrus
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Hi! Had my Deconz instance offline for 24 hours and now several remotes and bulbs are acting up aka not reponding to commands. I see a couple of "error APSDE-DATA.confirm 0xA7 on task" in the Deconz log. I've waited for about 8 hours and rebooted Deconz and power cycle the bulbs, they're flickering for quite some time after the power cycles. Some bulbs seems to work for a while and then wont respond to commands anymore. Any tips?

amber gull
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You can check the deconz discord -- Sound like you are having routing issues, no APS confirmations coming back perhaps

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~deconz

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.deconz

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.oickyourstick

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.zigbee

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.oi-vey

sour shadow
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Bot be dead

amber gull
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.rip

old kernel
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long live the bot

sour shadow
fresh citrus
amber gull
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Yeah 0xD0 is route discovery failed I believed

fresh citrus
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So might be a device that needs a power cycle somewhere?

amber gull
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Yes, power cycle all that you easily can