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sour shadow
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All sticks require flashing, but the newer ones don't require an adapter

wise sentinel
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I may be dumb, sorry, but I am not sure what you mean by get with the program

simple sentinel
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It's just an expression

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You like z2m, I like z2m

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he should too

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with all the sticks that come with it, though they aren't fancy

wise sentinel
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so you are saying deffinitely go with z2m

sour shadow
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Yes

wise sentinel
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there is no point in going with the other choices

simple sentinel
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I mean, people that like the other choices still get to chime in

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But your friend gets to benefit from you already knowing about z2m

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If it's a matter of keeping the living room presentable, maybe you can work around it with some eye-pleasing hack

sour shadow
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Put the stick behind something

simple sentinel
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On a bamboo-stick in a flower arrangment

wise sentinel
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I can see that the difference between the two sticks recommended is that one can go under 1 GHz, which isn't relevant. So I guess I should go with the cheaper one to save money, right?

simple sentinel
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Availability is also an issue

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They are sold out from time to time

sour shadow
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The two recommended sticks are functionally identical

wise sentinel
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Okay, thanks for your time guys.

simple sentinel
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You knew the answer the whole time, you just needed a little push 😉

ashen coral
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And the real treasure was the friends you made along the way.

mighty island
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Have tried adding multiple times.

jolly narwhal
mighty island
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'[0x2625:1:0x0001]: 'async_initialize' stage succeeded
[0x2625:1:0x0000]: 'async_initialize' stage succeeded
[0x2625:1:0x0006]: 'async_initialize' stage succeeded
0x2625: power source: Battery or Unknown
0x2625: completed initialization
Error handling '_save_device_relays_update' event with (00:12:xxxx, b'\x01\x00\x00') params: FOREIGN KEY constraint failed
Error handling '_save_device_relays_update' event with (00:12:xxxx, b'\x01\x00\x00') params: FOREIGN KEY constraint failed
[0x2625:1:0x0001] ZCL deserialize: <ZCLHeader frame_control=<FrameControl frame_type=GLOBAL_COMMAND manufacturer_specific=False is_reply=True disable_default_response=True> manufacturer=None tsn=149 command_id=Command.Read_Attributes_rsp>
[0x2625:1:0x0001] ZCL request 0x0001: [[ReadAttributeRecord(attrid=49, status=<Status.UNSUPPORTED_ATTRIBUTE: 134>), ReadAttributeRecord(attrid=51, status=<Status.UNSUPPORTED_ATTRIBUTE: 134>)]]'

silent lintel
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I have a bunch of Aqara temp/humidity sensors, and one of them is showing the same temp for the past 48 hours. It's not an unavailable entity, and looks the same in the Zigbee2MQTT addon. I'm kinda confused where to start troubleshooting. Any ideas?

gentle flint
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Start with pinned posts

silent lintel
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Thanks, Pal

austere patio
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I've had one sensor enter an endless loop of sending garbage temperature readings every few seconds until I pulled the battery (or maybe I replaced it?)

silent lintel
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gotcha. i got the debug logs on

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looking now

austere patio
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Clicking the white button on it should also tell you the status of the sensor on your network

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Two short blinks I believe is it sending a heartbeat to its parent

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Long one is no parent

silent lintel
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oh wow the little button on the sensor itself? cool

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clicked the button on the sensor and saw a click blink. just one time

austere patio
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If it lasts longer than a split second then its parent is offline

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If the LED also gets really dim then the battery is low

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So it may not be able to re-join the network again until you put in a fresh one

silent lintel
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I have an extra battery, cant hurt to try, right?

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It's back awesome! I noticed before in Grafana there was not data at all for the sensor. I replaced the battery and got a data point.

tired crescent
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Anyone had any succes binding a Sunricher SR-ZG2835RAC to a Philips Hue device? I see a couple of binds fail, but I still get no respons when using the dimmer.

silent lintel
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Welp. it restarted but it's still the same temperature.

silent lintel
austere patio
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No, way shorter

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They both happen within half a second

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Look at the network debug logs, they will show you what the sensor is sending

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If it's even on your network

surreal hedge
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I can't imagine that this popular router is not supported at all 😦

austere patio
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What does the debug log show?

surreal hedge
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I used the firmware which is linked on the zigbee2mqtt website

austere patio
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That is the debug log, but the log level is not very high

sour shadow
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I have one that I flashed a couple of years back. It works fine as a router

surreal hedge
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exactly the same message with debug log

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Feb 16 19:32:46 pi4 npm[13483]: Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2021-02-16 19:32:46: Received Zigbee message from '0x00158d00044ea780', type 'attributeReport', cluster 'genOnOff', data '{"onOff":0}' from e
ndpoint 1 with groupID 0
Feb 16 19:32:46 pi4 npm[13483]: Zigbee2MQTT:info 2021-02-16 19:32:46: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/0x00158d00044ea780', payload '{"battery":100,"contact":true,"linkquality":57,"voltage":
3055}'
Feb 16 19:32:48 pi4 npm[13483]: Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2021-02-16 19:32:48: Received Zigbee message from '0x00124b001c429cd3', type 'attributeReport', cluster 'genOnOff', data '{"onOff":0}' from e
ndpoint 8 with groupID 0
Feb 16 19:32:48 pi4 npm[13483]: Zigbee2MQTT:warn 2021-02-16 19:32:48: Received message from unsupported device with Zigbee model 'undefined'
Feb 16 19:32:48 pi4 npm[13483]: Zigbee2MQTT:warn 2021-02-16 19:32:48: Please see: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/how_tos/how_to_support_new_devices.html.

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the *780 is the sensor directly, *cd3 is the router

austere patio
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Why is the router sending an onOff message?

surreal hedge
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because it's trying to relay the onOff message from a window sensor which I use to test the setup

austere patio
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Hmm, you'll likely need to enable Zigbee-herdsman debug logging to get the full log

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It isn't clear from the Z2M log what the actual message is

surreal hedge
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at the top is the announcement, and at the bottom a failed message

austere patio
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So in your log, 0xb996 (the router) joins the network directly to the coordinator, announces itself, and then itself sends an attribute report

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It doesn't appear to be relaying that message

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Is the contact sensor Aqara?

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Is anything happening other than this error message showing up in your log?

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As in, does the network otherwise work?

surreal hedge
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yes the sensor is an aqara one
the linkquality of the sensor keeps the same, no matter if the router runs
I guess not, see point above

austere patio
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Try force removing the router and re-adding it

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I believe the router firmware should have manufacturer and model attributes so the fact that Z2M is complaining that it does not makes it seem like the router was never completely discovered by Z2M

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Right now the router is still in Z2M's database so it doesn't seem to re-discover it

surreal hedge
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ok thank you for the support! will try that tomorrow

mighty river
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Hello everyone. I try to call a update_entity service to get the power usage of a xiaomi smart plug. I do not get any failure message in the log but nothing happens. Updating without a service call takes about a minute or so. I am using conbee not the xiaomi hub. Any ideas how to find out why it does not work?

obsidian sandalBOT
sour shadow
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☝️

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Which of those?

high rover
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Hi folks, Is it possible to read if an enitity is "available" or "reachable". I want to be sure that the saved state is not very old and thus check when it was last "seen". Is this possible somehow? It would be a door/window sensor via deCONZ.

mighty river
sour shadow
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You should hopefully find that there's an attribute for when the entity was last seen

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Of course, sensors may only check in once an hour, or less

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Look in devtools -> States

high rover
sour shadow
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Ah, the joys of sharing text as an image blobtongue

Try the following in devtools -> _Templates

{{ states.light.WHATEVER.last_updated }}
high rover
sour shadow
high rover
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Does anybody know if it is possible to get the "Refreshed" timestamp from deCONZ-devices that is shown in the deCONZ-intgration via Phoscon as value into homeassistant? Screenshot (so you would better understand what I mean): https://ibb.co/m404pny

lament loom
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How to set OSRAM AB32840 to default off, when for example ill have power outage

mighty river
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Hello can anyone help me i have an rgbw Controller Shelly and an iluminize zigbee Touch Panel how i can Control the Shelly With the zigbee Touch panel

shrewd granite
mighty island
shrewd granite
mighty island
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platform: event event_type: zha_event event_data: device_ieee: '00:12:4b:00:21:ff:ff:ff' unique_id: '00:12:4b:00:21:ff:ff:ff:1:0x0006' device_id: ca471a2a95f3ed19be1asdasdasdasd endpoint_id: 1 cluster_id: 6 command: toggle

shrewd granite
rugged hinge
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I just got some iris 3460-L buttons and I had thought they supported single, multiple and long clicks but watching for zha_event I only get an on and off command on button clicks. Any suggestions?

mellow geode
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Since some time ago, I've had Zigbee lights "reconfigure" themselves (blinking green on Hue lights for example. Like how it happens when they're reconfigured through the UI).
Today, it just happened again. I didn't have debug logs on though but it seems like the light is somehow rejoining the network: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VDzY86Rv2D/

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0xEE75/00:17:88:01:09:01:66:d5

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Using zigpy_znp 0.4.0 (upgraded "manually" on the latest Home Assistant with ZHA)

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(using ZZH with latest firmware)

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If anybody has some ideas on why this is happening, I'd really like to figure this out

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... apparently not everybody likes blinking lights at 3am

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'async_configure' stage failed: not enough values to unpack (expected 3, got 2) is also written in the log when reconfiguring a light manually in the UI (and it doesn't somehow rejoin/reconfigure itself)

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Regardless, the light still seems to work fine after that

austere patio
trim stream
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Is it possible to query what the firmware level of a device is via zha? Not looking to update it, just to know what I have. I've turned debug logging on for zha, but the endpoint device firmware level doesn't show in the log. Ideas?

austere patio
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Try reading it from the device's OTA cluster

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If not, reboot the device and wait for it to ask for a new image. It'll include its current firmware in the request.

trim stream
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Gotcha. It's a little Sonoff zigbee motion sensor.

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I'll try the OTA cluster first as last time the battery died it forgot it was paired and was royal pain to get HA to forget it so I could re-pair it.

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When it includes the firmware in the request, will it show in the debug log, or somewhere else?

austere patio
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Oh, in that case you're all set

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Sonoff does not support OTA at all

trim stream
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In that case, no way to see it. Sounds good then. Thanks.

mellow geode
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(Anything before and after seems to be a network scan in the debug logs rn)

mighty river
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I have Danfoss Ally integrated with ZHA. I just restarted HA and lost connection to this TRV. Is there a way to refresh/enforce connection? I don't even know why exactly it happened...My door sensor works just fine. I see in the logs that I'm getting some messages: Received an AF message from an unknown device: 0x6e92 It looks like having controller reconnected and restarting HA again helped for that...although I still don't know if there's a way to avoid direct access to hardware.

vague knot
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Hi!
Z2M, Aqara magic cube.
I have it working, but can't seem to find the action entity.
If I use an automation trigger, the actions can be found though...
See screenshots:
https://imgur.com/a/G5vJLX2

vague knot
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Trying to add the available attribute to a sensor, which seems to work

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Feels a bit hacky to have to do this myself actually.
I want to use the entity in a Z2M cube blueprint

noble bison
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Hi all, I am having problems with the Zemismart ZM25TQ roller blind motor. It is discovered in HA using a CC2531 with Zigbee2MQTT. I am running the latest-dev Z2MQTT in a Docker Container on a Synology NAS. The up/down/stop buttons seem to be working however the position value does not change. I have not gone through the setup with the TUYA app, not sure if I need to. Any advice would be great.

mighty river
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guys, is it possible to access to devices.js in zigbee2mqtt in home assistant os? i cannot find it anywhere :/

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i have only devices.db but it's not what im looking for

near echo
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You will need to go in the container hosting z2m. But any changes will not be persisted. Usually we spin up a seprate docker for z2m with specific volumes exposed

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I don't you will be able to do that in HA OS. As you have limited control on OS

mighty river
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so i'm limited to waiting for update to add new TS0601 tuya TRV manafacturers...

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i hope i won't be waiting for a long time

spark summit
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Hej automation friends. I have some RGBW lightbulbs from Paulmann and realized, that the brightness does not change below a value of 30-40 until it turns off at 0. Also color transitions do not seem to be very smooth. When I transition from orange to warmwhite it gets some kind of light purple inbetween.

So now I'm wondering: Are the lightbulbs all the same in that case, do some lightbulbs support smoother transitions and lower brightness values or am I just doing it wrong? 😂

sour shadow
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Yes, the quality of the bulbs varies. Hue are apparently the gold standard

ivory hound
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anyone know if Blitzwolf SHP7: Dual EU smart socket works with ZHA?

jolly narwhal
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that is wifi afaik

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so that would be impressive

ivory hound
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right 🙂

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me noob

spark summit
austere patio
amber gull
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Anyone running latest zstack router firmware, are you seeing a large number of NWK changes?

gentle fern
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@mighty island @shrewd granite if you want to use sensors instead of zha_events you can use the eventsensor integration from HACS

carmine zodiac
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Brand new SNZB-02 hygrometer disconnected overnight and I had to re-pair it (ZHA, HUSBZB-1). There's a repeater (light bulb) in the same room and another in the adjacent room. Ideas? I have two, so I'm going to see if the second one does the same thing. https://i.ibb.co/YbDt3kj/snzb-02.png

carmine zodiac
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First one stopped reporting 2 hours ago

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Power was reporting 100% before both of #1's disconnections

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Both devices are in the same place right now, closer to hub

golden vessel
obsidian sandalBOT
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deCONZ by dresden elektronik is a software that communicates with ConBee/RaspBee Zigbee gateways and exposes Zigbee devices that are connected to the gateway. Our #zigbee-archived channel is a good place to ask about using it with Home Assistant, but they also have their own Discord server.

Command '~deconz' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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You probably want to ask the deCONZ experts over there

pine goblet
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Can anyone suggest a good quality zigbee dimmer switch? Been waiting for the GE jasco but it’s still out of stock

obsidian sandalBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
Command '~what' was invoked by: Tinkerer
pine goblet
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USA, doesn’t matter, zigbee, dimming

brave horizon
carmine zodiac
brave horizon
# carmine zodiac I call zha permit in developer tools and press the bind button on the sensor

Ok, to make sure (or at least it is what works for me) that they stay connected. Go to the Configuration > Integrations > Zigbee Home Automate (ZHA) > Click on devices, where you have a number with the devices that you have connected. There you will see at the end your coordinator as zigbee coordinator as EZSP = ... something here. You have the same one as me. Click on your coodinator and there you will see one extra option "ADD DEVICES VIA THIS DEVICE", when you click there, your network will add a device only through that device (it could be a router also). To almost make sure that your device stays connected add it this way, or throught the closest router (the light bulb). You can try first to the bulb, but directly, this way you force the network and later to the coordinator. This way worked for me, hopefully it will work for you

carmine zodiac
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Thanks, will try!

uneven plank
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has anyone tried to get a trådfri repåeater to join? and has had success... I can't get it to join

jolly narwhal
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with ... what integration ?

uneven plank
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zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
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Mine joined "fine"

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Took a few attempts, but it worked for both in the end

uneven plank
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I have pushed the "reset buton" with a paperclip for 5 sec. and it blinks fine but doesen't join

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zigbee2mqtt version
1.17.1 commit: 1.17.1
coordinator type
zStack30x
coordinator revision
20200211
frontend version
0.3.23

jolly narwhal
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zstack 3.0 🤔 what is that coordinator ?

uneven plank
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ZigBee USB STICK CC2538+CC2592

jolly narwhal
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Oh, that one doesn't support 3.1 it seems

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I haven't seen that combo before

uneven plank
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what would be a better stick?

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I need very good coverage, therefor I chose that combo

violet dagger
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its popular with the russians

jolly narwhal
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I run the cc1352p2, covers my whole house (three floors, 252m2)

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without an external antenna

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I should try the external antenna at some point

uneven plank
violet dagger
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its definitely better and more powerful than CC2531 but its stlll the CC25xx architecture

uneven plank
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any ideas?

thorny phoenix
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depending on your surface to cover

uneven plank
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screw the coverage.. just with my initial problem of the repeater not joining

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If I can do anything with my current stick

thorny phoenix
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i have 2538 +2592 and i'm satisfied

uneven plank
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have you tried the ikea repeater and what firmware is flashed?

thorny phoenix
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no. i guess 3.0

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@jolly narwhal with cc1352 u have ble devices in your network ?

jolly narwhal
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I have BLE, but those go via my ESP32s

thorny phoenix
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didn't tried directly at all ?

jolly narwhal
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well, there is no support in the zstack code afaik

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and the other part of the 1352 is sub ghz, 868mhz and 915mhz I believe

sour shadow
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ISM bands, for Zigbee Pro and also part of the 3.0 spec

amber gull
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network bridging 802.14.5 via ethernet with two homepods is super cool

old kernel
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Apparently my new solar inverter, a Delta M series, has a zigbee module in it (with an xbee chip on the board). There is zero information published about this... anyone have some pointers of where/how I could figure out getting data from it?

carmine zodiac
dry fossil
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It's reporting on significant changes, that's normal and desirable.

carmine zodiac
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The two are beside each other

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Both should have similar detections, right?

dry fossil
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Who knows? They're reporting what they know.

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For whatever reason, one's picking up fluctuations of several percent. It's right to report them.

brittle maple
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hello - does anyone have experience with Aqara devices (battery) becoming unavailable randomly and any advice on ways to not have this happen?

sour shadow
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There's a good forum thread in the pinned messages

dry fossil
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Build a stronger mesh.

sour shadow
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That helps, as does, interestingly, using Zigbee 3.0 coordinator and routers

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My Xiaomi devices connected to my 1.2 mesh won't ever change routes. My Xiaomi devices connected to my 3.0 mesh will

brittle maple
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what do I need to do to siwtch to zigbee 3.0 coordinator?

amber gull
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(the routing and network stacks between 1.2 and 3.0 are virtually identical -- 3.0 just adds some optional security)

sour shadow
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The theory may be there, but reality is proving to be different... which is about normal with Zigbee 🤣

sour shadow
golden vessel
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@brittle maple what devices (motion, door, ...) and how frequent? Also, do you have them paired directly with the coordinator or is another device serving as a router? There's a bug on aqara devices that makes them leave the network when paired trough some routers

cerulean thorn
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Im thinking about going to native zigbee, never tried the "HA Zigbee" before. What is currently the best dongle, deconz or the 3rd party sleash dongles, and also does the zigbee network need to be rebuilt everytime your reboot HA?

golden vessel
cerulean thorn
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I have conbee 1, conbee 2, the slaesh (the TI 3rd party) both versions and the TI boards

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so have to use one of them

golden vessel
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I've used the conbee 1 for a while without issues

simple sentinel
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HA Zigbee? Is that an alias for zha?

dry fossil
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In Soviet Russia, HA Zigbees you.

cerulean thorn
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yes I just forgot zha. I expect that people understand ha zigbee lol

austere patio
cerulean thorn
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okay thanks. will try

fervent tiger
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Some of my Enddevices are much closer to a router than my coordinator but they connect to the coordinator. Any idea why?

amber gull
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Parent selection is up to the device itself.

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And there are children limit as well per device

elfin patrol
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I added a SEA801-ZIGBEE thermostat with deCONZ, and it exposed a climate device to Hassio. However, there are a few issues:

  • max temperature reported is 35 even though the device max is 30
  • switching between heat/off works, but hassio doesn't report the state properly
  • the temperature is 29C even though it's only 21C inside.
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is there a way to configure which temperature sensor to use for the thermostat?

brittle maple
carmine zodiac
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Can I see if both are connected to the same node?

dry fossil
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Not convinced of what exactly?

forest arrow
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I have a very basic question that I cannot find the answer to: I have a SONOFF SNZB-03 - ZigBee Motion Sensor and it says it is a motion sensor, I am assuming it is NOT using PIR? So it is only looking for movement so if a bird flies by a high window I have, it would trigger the sensor?

dry fossil
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One is sending more frequently because it sees changes. The other is reporting less frequently because it's not.

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Almost every motion sensor is PIR. If it truly tracked movement, that would be a camera, with pretty impressive embedded image processing.

forest arrow
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ok thanks, will monitor for a few days to see how it goes

dry fossil
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Do you have it indoors and you want to track motion outdoors? 🤔

forest arrow
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No I was going to leave it in my living room and have it alert if there is motion while I am away

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But I have a big window up high on my ceiling and was concerned that it would trigger the sensor if a bird or something flew by

dry fossil
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It shouldn't. They work by sending out beams of IR and watching what bounces back. If the 'reflections' change, there's motion.

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I'd be surprised if it picks anything up from outside. The risk with having a window in view is it some other source of IR shines in on the sensor. Reflections off cars and stuff like that.

forest arrow
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yeah so the window in question is too high for that, it is up about 12 feet on the ceiling

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on the wall, not ceiling

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but close to the ceiling

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I do have a sliding glass door, but the blinds are closed on that and will be if we are ever away from home

carmine zodiac
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One is definitely reporting more often and the other less often as a result of some configuration

dry fossil
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Please stop tagging me on every frigging response.

carmine zodiac
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Ok

dry fossil
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I don't care why one of them is reporting less frequently. I explained what could cause it. The rest is your problem to figure out.

carmine zodiac
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That's what I'm here to get help with...

dry fossil
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Your graph clearly shows greater fluctuations on the one that reports more frequently. That's your answer.

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No-one here has physical access to your devices to troubleshoot the sensors within.

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If you think there's something wrong with one, RMA it.

carmine zodiac
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Anyone else have any insights?

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#2 is reporting every 15 minutes, to the second. It's impossible that the humidity is only changing in a detectable amount every 900 seconds

dry fossil
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...

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This is normal. Report infrequently when there's nothing to say. Report frequently when something significant happens.

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We've done this already.

carmine zodiac
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It's fine, don't trouble yourself

austere patio
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I've found those sensors to be quite noisy

carmine zodiac
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Ahh

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Thank you

austere patio
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Well, the one that I have hooked up at the moment

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It sends attribute reports very frequently

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Usually fluctuating around some temperature, while the Aqara sensors just send ones every once in a while, resulting in a smooth graph

carmine zodiac
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How long does the battery last?

austere patio
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For Aqara sensors, maybe two years if they're kept indoors

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Dunno about the Sonoffs, I haven't had mine running long enough to run down a battery

carmine zodiac
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Cool

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Well thanks for answering my question

austere patio
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Dunno about your specific case though

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It could be some manufacturing defect or something, they're configured with the same attribute reporting settings

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Are you using ZHA or Zigbee2mqtt?

carmine zodiac
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Zha

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I'll play with re-pairing

dry fossil
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So you're suggesting an RMA may be in order?

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Re-pairing won't change how frequently an end device reports. That logic is entirely on its chip.

carmine zodiac
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I have a sudden craving to re-pair these over and over again

austere patio
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That's only Aqara

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Normal devices are configured to report every min/max interval with a specific change

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But it's hardcoded

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(by the integration, not in the device)

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So if you "configure" a sensor to report at least once a second and at most once a second, it will send you reports once a second

dry fossil
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TIL sensors can be configured to override hardcoded logic.

austere patio
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It's only hardcoded by the integration when setting up attribute reports

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Actually, lemme check if you can do this within ZHA using cluster commands

dry fossil
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How do the cluster commands wake the sleeping device if it's sleeping?

sour shadow
dry fossil
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It's conceivable. After all...

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

austere patio
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When you send a message to a sleeping end device, it's retained by its parent until the sleeping end device wakes up and checks for new messages

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They wake up pretty frequently, like a few times a minute

sour shadow
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That's interesting...

austere patio
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In theory, anyways. Aqara just doesn't.

dry fossil
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Why would they wake the network card if there's nothing to report? I thought they prioritised battery conservation above all else.

sour shadow
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None of my Konke devices wake that often either 😄

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Or my Hue dimmer - at least none report it

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Maybe they wake, check for messages, and fall asleep immediately without sending anything?

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ISTR that's kind of how Z-Wave's Beam works

austere patio
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Looks like the Sonoff/eWeLink wake up every 30s to check

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Or at least as often as they report attribute changes

dry fossil
amber gull
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Yeah, my centralite stuff wakes up within a few seconds

austere patio
#

So they first enter into some sort of fast polling after joining and check in every second for a minute or so, and then slowly poll later on

dry fossil
amber gull
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Of any target ZCL command

dry fossil
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That's outlets and lights though, right? I'm not familiar with the brand.

amber gull
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no, it's battery powered sensors -- they resold centralite under diff brand (Iris) and directly

dry fossil
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Ah, gotcha.

amber gull
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The ones I have rock a CR123A or CR2 I think so they can afford to be a bit more chatty

austere patio
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Doesn't look like there's a trivial way to configure attribute reporting directly from within ZHA

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But maybe the Sonoff temp sensors are a good candidate for a larger minimum change value

amber gull
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What are you trying to change? The threshold?

mellow geode
#

I guess that's an easy way to run ZHA over Ethernet (instead of WiFi with the Sonoff Bridge).

amber gull
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Well, tube has gateway options almost ready, including a wired cc2652 gateway that is z2m and zha compatible

mellow geode
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Selling in Europe? 😉

amber gull
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I think so?

mellow geode
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Oh

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Then I'd (obviously) prefer tubes version

amber gull
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Now if we could only buy lidl in the US too

mellow geode
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Haha, right

molten linden
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I'm looking at shipping options for overseas. the best rate I've found as a little guy is ~$26 for US First Class International Parcel 1-3 week delivery.

tropic depot
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stack rules are every 7.5 seconds

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even for end devices...

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problem is that the spec contradicts itself in several spots... this answer from SI tries to clarify it

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but it is a mess in general

sour shadow
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Business as usual you say 🤔

austere patio
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Looks like the Sonoff stuff only polls when sending attribute reports

calm falcon
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HI Guys i am getting a Sonoff Bridge to flash with Tasomta but i also currently have a IKEA Hub. Would i be able to use the IKEA hub as a repeater or would i have to shut it off and start using the Sonoff?

old fulcrum
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you can only use one coordinator device

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does anyone have IKEA Furtyr blinds? I notice at least my unit is VERY chatty, sending messages constantly

vale dirge
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Hi. i don't know if people here is familiar with zigbee2mqtt

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I bought a usb adapter (Slaesh's CC2652RB stick), but I'd like to check which version of the firmware it includes

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(it does not seem to work by default with zigbee2mqtt)

mellow geode
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At least the ZZH sticks (similar to the Slaesh stick) only come with a testing firmware that blinks the LEDs.

vale dirge
#

In theory, when I bought it, I could select that it was already flashed with the zigbee2mqtt firmware

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Do you know if there's a way to check the included version of the firmware before flashing another one?

mellow geode
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Since I'm not using zigbee2mqtt and I don't know if that prints the version in the logs or something like that, no.

jolly narwhal
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It does

mellow geode
jolly narwhal
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But just flash the latest and be done

mellow geode
vale dirge
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I was about to use this tutorial

mellow geode
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Yep, that's good.

vale dirge
mellow geode
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Yep.

vale dirge
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Ok, it's the same one you pasted

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good

turbid ether
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any tips on how to get ikea trådfri lights to pair using zha with zigpy/zigpy-deconz/raspbee ii ? After some initial trouble I got the raspbee working on paired with lumi switches so things should be operational. lights are reset from their previous pairing

vale dirge
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I'm trying to flash the usb adapter using , I get an error:

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pi@openhab:~/cc2538-bsl $ python3 cc2538-bsl.py -p /dev/ttyUSB0 -evw CC2652RB_coordinator_20210120.hex
ERROR: init() got an unexpected keyword argument 'write_timeout'\

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maybe it's because the python version?

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$ python3 --version
Python 3.4.2

jolly narwhal
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Python 3.4? That has been dead for a few years

vale dirge
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It's a raspberry pi 1 : )

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(that means I have not updated the SO in a long time)

jolly narwhal
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It still supports modern software ;-)

vale dirge
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yup, debian jessie

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anyway, I'll try to update the firmware from my computer

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Yep, it was because the python version, in my computer with python 3.8 worked as a charm

vale dirge
austere patio
vale dirge
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Oh! let me try it

austere patio
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Or better yet, /dev/serial/by-id/somethingslaeshsomething:/dev/ttyACM0

vale dirge
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Nope, same problem: Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-02-19 00:39:52: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0'

near echo
#

Do you see that device when you do lsusb?

tardy tapir
#

I've finally made the switch to ZHA from deCONZ. Is there a gui like ZwaveJS2MQTT that let me do deeper settings and control my nodes?

jolly narwhal
#

you mean like zigbee2mqtt ? 😄

molten linden
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@tardy tapir you can go into Integrations>ZHA>Devices, and on each devices' page you can manage query the clusters on the devices and send commands as well.

tardy tapir
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thank you!

worldly jungle
#

ZHA - Is there anything I need to do to successfully have both a nortek/gocontrol HUSBZB-1 and a Conbee 2 on my system? I don't need (or want) Zigbee enabled on the USBZB-1; I'm trying to switch over to the Conbee, but it looks like ZHA is maybe confused? I only see "Add devices via this device" on my old USBZB-1 - which shouldn't even be configured?? I changed the ZHA config to point to the new one. (and it indicates that - showing /dev/serial/by-id/conbee stuff )

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I might just have to pull the older HUSBZB-1; the only reason I'm keeping it is for Z-Wave, and I only have one Z-Wave device as it stands. /:

amber gull
#

No, nothing else required -- I run with the HUSBZB-1 in Z-wave only

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You might just have a vestigial entry for the HUSBZB-1 as a zigbee coordinator, but it won't hurt anything

worldly jungle
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(I might be able to blacklist the relevant driver? Seems fiddly at best)

amber gull
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To add devices go Config > Integrations > ZHA > "Add device" (in bottom right corner)

worldly jungle
#

Well, I haven't been able to pair anything afte rputting it into pairing mode, and only the HUSBZB-1 shows "Add devices via this device" on its properties. (Though maybe the Conbee 2 just doesn't have that element?)

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Walt_H - I've done so, it sits, spins, etc. Not impossible that it's a problem with the Zigbee device I was trying to pair, but I did successfully reset it. (Hue bulb, previously associated with the HUSBZB-1, but I did the "Hue dimmer remote - ON/OFF hold - blinky blinky" process)

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Does anyone with a Conbee know if the "add devices via this device" option shows up on the device properties? It may be a bit of a wild goose chase if that's just not part of the UI implemented for that device

amber gull
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You'll probably want to post your pairing log somewhere

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Go through the add process and hit "Show logs" in upper right

#

There have been a few conbee bugs where it doesn't talk on the network after a restart -- you might be hitting that

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Why did you migrate from the HUSBZB-1?

worldly jungle
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Known issues with it and the Lutron Z3 dimmer knob - apparently the firmware in the HUSBZB-1 has intermittent trouble with button-presses; I would describe it as "it occasionally works."

amber gull
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Ah yes, EM3581 doesn't process group frames if the coordinator is not part of the group

worldly jungle
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That's the one!

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I don't know nearly enough low-level stuff with Zigbee to understand the finer details, though I'll imagine it's like an ethernet switch ignoring tagged VLAN frames or such (;

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And, thanks for pointing out the logging option, I'm checking now. Though NOW i'm doing it remotely, so, I can't reset devices to pairing mode, sigh

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I can cycle power to an unpaired one though!

#

I wonder if I should blow up my zigbee database from ZHA - if that's a thing?

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So far, all my logs show is one instance of [0x0000:zdo] ZDO request ZDOCmd.Mgmt_Permit_Joining_req: [60, <Bool.false: 0>] per "Search"

austere patio
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Nothing like that is stored in the database, it's effectively a device cache

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But if you delete it your network will be very unhappy

worldly jungle
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That was what I essentially understood - though, if switching adapters, said cache seemed potentially not good?

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Well, my network is perfectly unhappy as it is, but fortunately it's only a handful of devices - maybe 10

austere patio
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If you aren't seeing any indication of a new device joining the network in the log, the database isn't really affecting anything at the moment

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When a new device joins that's already in the database, it won't have to be fully discovered so it will only speed things up

worldly jungle
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It's enough lines that maybe I should pastebin it? I'm not sure what the ettiquite is here.

austere patio
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The log?

worldly jungle
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Actually just these two relevant ones:
[0x0000:zdo] ZDO request ZDOCmd.Mgmt_Lqi_rsp: [<Status.SUCCESS: 0>, Neighbors(entries=0, start_index=0, neighbor_table_list=[])] [0x0000:zdo] Unsupported ZDO request:ZDOCmd.Mgmt_Lqi_rsp

austere patio
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Yeah that's normal and I think just a coincidence that it's showing up in the joining log

worldly jungle
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You know, maybe I'll just power cycle some stuff.

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I suppose I could "pull" the HUSBZB-1 from the VM; I can't physically remove it until I'm not working on this remotely, though, so it will still have power & presumably be a functional coordinator for the devices I didn't unpair

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Oh, speaking of - is it possible to unpair them from HA / with ZHA? I could potentially return my config back to the old one with the HUSB.. device and unpair various devices

austere patio
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You can ask the device to leave the network but the networks formed by your two sticks are completely independent

amber gull
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And you can look at uhubctl if supported by your hardware to kill power to the HUSBZB-1 -- probably not supported though

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but HUSBZB-1 shouldn't be really interfering, it will just be online as a separate network / PAN ID

ocean hatch
#

I have zigbee sonoff mini, how do I set it up as light?

amber gull
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which integration?

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.zigbee

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Bots are asleep, let's all start pasting 15+ line code blocks

silent lintel
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Hi guys, I was going back and forth with @austere patio the other day and he mentioned that I should look at the network debug logs to see what Aqara sensor was sending. #zigbee-archived message

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I have debug enabled in my Z2M , is that the right place to look?

turbid ether
cerulean thorn
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Has anyone been able to update firmware on the zigbee dongles like sleash and electrorama directly from ha? I get as far as starting to flash it ends with an error firmware is intel hex

austere patio
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Did you install the intelhex Python package?

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I wouldn't do it directly from within HA if you have any other environment available. Window, Linux, anything that can run Python 3.7+ will work

cerulean thorn
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doh no, now its a new error bytearray index out of range

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the reason why I would like to try is to not have to climb and get the stick

austere patio
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Can you paste the full traceback (or upload it to a pastebin if it's too long?)

cerulean thorn
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how to do a traceback again?

austere patio
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Just paste everything the script spits out

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The traceback is the error message and all the lines above it

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Are you running cc2538-bsl.py -p /dev/serial/by-id/*slaesh* -evw /path/to/firmware.hex?

cerulean thorn
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yes it is as in the instructions

austere patio
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It looks like you specified the .hex file twice

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Looks like cc2538-bsl.py swallows all exceptions and just prints out the error message string 😦 No tracebacks...

cerulean thorn
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ops it didnt change anything

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it gives one of the three errors

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now its bytearray out of range

#

strange the error is different

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for each time im running it

austere patio
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Can you run it with -V (uppercase v)?

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Also, are you 100% sure that no other application is trying to use this serial device, like Home Assistant?

cerulean thorn
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needed python-magic

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so to do it from ha those two packages need install

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is it possible to see firmware version in ha?

austere patio
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Not in the version of zigpy-znp included in HA

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I think I might be able to put this into the coordinator device's info within ZHA

cerulean thorn
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that would be helpful to know when it need update

austere patio
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Did you perform an NVRAM backup before updating?

cerulean thorn
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no it was a clean stick

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just going to test it along with deconz

silent lintel
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On another note, is that the best way to post a log? seems insane to have to scroll really far right to read

silent flower
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Hi, I have a BW-SS7 relay and I haven't figured out how to reset it to pair mode with another coordinator, do you know anyone?

cerulean thorn
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on ZHA should it show anything in the log while detecting? I tried it now with the sleash but nothing came up. Will try to run in debug mode now

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has anyone seen this error before?

austere patio
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What does your home assistant config's zha section look like?

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You likely don't need to specify any config options at all and can omit the zha key entirely

cerulean thorn
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yes I had to many options there. I just reduced it to channel and it works

cerulean thorn
dry fossil
molten linden
mighty river
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I have the same question, just bought a zzh! CC2652R and cannot get it to work

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Get stuck, not able to flash the stick

jolly narwhal
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What have you tried

mighty river
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I have installed Python

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And pip3 install pyserial intelhex

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But get error ERROR: could not open port '-evw': FileNotFoundError(2, 'Het systeem kan het opgegeven bestand niet vinden.', None, 2)""

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HAd the stick in bootloader mode

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Also tried UNIFLASH, but does not recognise device

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Same with SmartRF

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Stick is recorgnised in Windows

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Have it configured port 14

naive ivy
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that error doesn't sound related to your hardware, it seems the script thinks -evw is the name of the serial port

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I don't know why though, because I don't know anything about that script. It just doesn't seem to like your command line options

mighty river
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Is there an other way to flash the stick?

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On windows

naive ivy
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I wouldn't know, unfortunately. I just figured I'd interpret the error message for you to narrow down the problem

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Every example I can find says those command line options should be correct though 😦

mighty river
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C:\Users\Pascal\Downloads\cc2538-bsl-master\cc2538-bsl-master>cc2538-bsl.py -p COM14
Opening port COM14, baud 500000
Connecting to target...
CC1350 PG2.0 (7x7mm): 352KB Flash, 20KB SRAM, CCFG.BL_CONFIG at 0x00057FD8
Primary IEEE Address: 00:12:4B:00:21:B7:7F:C6

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And now it is blinking

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ah see it Need to put hex file in same folder I gues

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And the cc2538-bsl.py -p COM14 -evw CC2652R_coordinator_20210120.hex

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that worked

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In the instructions there is a black example which I misse

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d

short tree
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Hi, My zigbee Temp sensor has being unavailable for 1 day so far but all the others are working

mighty river
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You can delete it and repair?

fallow sphinx
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hi so today i shutdown my server to install a new ssd for plex and a new power supply. when i booted back up everything was working except that none of my zigbee devices would reconnect. i have been digging around for awhile and have made some progress in debugging but have got to this error and cant get any further: 2021-02-20 20:38:37 WARNING (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Failed to probe ZNP radio with config {'path': '/dev/ttyACM0', 'baudrate': 115200, 'flow_control': None}. my environment is home assistant running in docker on an ubuntu host that is a VM running on proxmox. the zigbee device is a conbee 2 and the switches i am trying to connect are 2 ikea remote controls and 1 ikea dimmer switch

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any advice on how i should proceed?

jolly narwhal
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So.... Many.... Layers.... Of.... Abstraction

fallow sphinx
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i know but it was working up to today

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also it is only actualy 2 layers

full junco
#

Hey guys, any idea why my freshly flashed sonoff zigbee bridge is stuck restarting? This is what console is reporting {"RestartReason":"Software/System restart"}

fallow sphinx
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proxmox->ubuntu->HA

full junco
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I'm running it via usb + removed the pin bridge for flashing.

dry fossil
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home assistant running in docker on an ubuntu host that is a VM running on proxmox
Wuuuuuut?

sterile sleet
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he did it, ABSOLUTE MADLAD

jolly narwhal
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And you are running on dynamic device mapping

dry fossil
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Run it in the cloud!

jolly narwhal
fallow sphinx
fallow sphinx
dry fossil
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It was a joke...

fallow sphinx
jolly narwhal
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/dev/ttyACM0

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Is not persistent

fallow sphinx
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HA docker compose:

    homeassistant:
        container_name: home-assistant
        image: homeassistant/home-assistant:stable
        network_mode: host
        volumes:
            - ${PWD}/configs/homeassistant:/config
        environment:
            - TZ=Australia/Perth
        restart: always
        devices:
            - /dev/ttyACM0:/dev/ttyACM0
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and the zha intergration detectis it when i set it up (it is in the drop down)

noble lion
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Hi all! My Zigbee2MQTT has fallen apart on me, used to work perfectly but now barely any devices are communicating - some are, mostly those close to the coordinator. C2531: "meta":{"maintrel":3,"majorrel":2,"minorrel":6,"product":0,"revision":20190608,"transportrev":2},"type":"
zStack12"} I do have 42 devices but "it's been OK"..

jolly narwhal
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It can change on any reboot @fallow sphinx

fallow sphinx
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right

jolly narwhal
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@noble lion that coordinator is fine, for 30 devices and a 40m2 apartment

fallow sphinx
jolly narwhal
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Yes

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Through all the layers

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Or just drop the VM and run containers directly

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If proxmox supports it

fallow sphinx
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it has its own version of containers and you could thireticaly install docker on it directly but having it in a vm lets me backup and migrate all the docker config stuff quickley and easaley

noble lion
jolly narwhal
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@fallow sphinx no idea how proxmox works, but anywhere I can run docker native (truenas and Debian) backup is just copying the config dir, adding a VM just adds overhead and complexity

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@noble lion then, did you change the network key? Sounds like your coordinator is on an island

upbeat geyser
#

Anyone know if its posible to disable the fade in/out for hue bulbs when switching them on/of, IE let them turn on/off like a normal bulb?

noble lion
jolly narwhal
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I threw the cc2531 out after three days

noble lion
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what do you use - I've been looking at alternatives but the two zigbee2mqtt reccomended links are out of stock 😦

jolly narwhal
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Cc1352p2

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Three day delivery from Houston, Texas to Norway

dawn sequoia
#

Didn't you have a zzh! Atx?

forest arrow
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greetings folks, so I am using the sonoff zigbee bridge and I have 9 door sensors and 2 motion sensors. I see them in Home Assistant but this morning I show one of the Motion Sensors as Unavailable and not sure what to do to get it visible again, but that led me to a question, should all of my zigbee devices be in some type of zone so they are communicating through one another?

dry fossil
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Battery powered sensors can't route traffic.

forest arrow
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good to know

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I am new to zigbee so try to absorb it

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devices arbitrarily becoming unavailable is not a good thing for a security system

forest arrow
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So I reset the motion sensor and pointed it at a wall so it would not detect movement and it kept going a minute then would immediately clear and then detect again. For a test i put it back in its box and it is now clear but as soon as I open the box lid, it shows detected and begins the same behavior. Could this be a defective motion sensor? I don't see many ways to test them

jolly narwhal
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@dawn sequoia nöpé

dawn sequoia
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You monster

simple sentinel
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@forest arrow you have 11 different battery powered sensors, probably spread around in different rooms around the house. Without some powered mains devices, like light bulbs or straight up router/repeaters, you are unlikely to get a healthy Zigbee mesh for your devices.

jolly narwhal
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I have 60ish powered devices and 20+ battery

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I don't have count anymore

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need to do a recount

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total is about 100 though

simple sentinel
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I'm at 13 routing powered devices, 1 non-routing powered and 10 batteries.
The simple life

raw sundial
#

I am in the process of connecting the Hue switches to my home assistant via zigbee2mqtt. This also works. However, the response time of the Hue switches is sometimes very long. Do you have any idea what it could be?

jolly narwhal
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No issues with Xiaomi or tradfri switches here

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Don't have any hue switches

gentle flint
golden vessel
golden vessel
#

is there anyway I could have two coordinators on the same network with ZHA? It would be nice to add my dev coordinator to my main network for developing (I don't have many spare devices)

sour shadow
#

One network, one coordinator

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That's it

jolly narwhal
#

You can always have a spare coordinator with most integrations

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Also, if you ran zigbee2mqtt you could utilize all your devices in both the Dev and main instance at the same time yes

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Can you do that with zha?

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Without bridging HA instances

golden vessel
#

you can have two instances of z2m, with two sticks in a single net?

jolly narwhal
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You can have two z2m and one broker yes

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And one or two ha instances using that broker

golden vessel
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broker as in mqtt broker?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

golden vessel
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how can the two sticks talk with the same mesh?

jolly narwhal
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They don't, you said Dev, that implies a seperate instance

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If you are sane ;-)

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Not like people who Dev on prod

golden vessel
jolly narwhal
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Yes

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Depends on what part you are using as dev

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If you have one Dev and one prod HA, fine use all devices in both

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If you mean a Dev and prod Zigbee2mqtt instance, pair Dev devices to Dev and use those in the prod or Dev instance of HA

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All over one single broker

golden vessel
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I was talking about ZHA... so the equivalent would be dev z2m instance, and not dev HA

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what I wanted: dev stick + dev zha in the production network 🙂

jolly narwhal
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Don't touch zha, so no idea what they do ACOSP_guessillshrug

golden vessel
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zwave alows having two sticks, so I was hopping.... 🙂

jolly narwhal
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ZigBee is single coordinator

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But no issues to have hot or cold standby

sour shadow
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Z-Wave may technically allow it, but implementations that support it ...

golden vessel
#

probably they would just make the network stop working at all, as usual...

jolly narwhal
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Zwave no zigbee yes

sour shadow
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Both are good - Zigbee's development is just learning from Z-Wave's mistakes 😛

carmine zodiac
#

Aqara hub discontinued? Is there another way to use Aqara sensors? ZHA with HUSBZB-1

golden vessel
restive elbow
#

i use mine with a nortek zwave/zigbee thing

carmine zodiac
#

ah damn, when I set this up a few months ago, this stick was the one I saw recommended most

mellow geode
#

Could this be related to the device not registering any entities? (entity_refs is not None for devices without entities -- else that code wouldn't have been called)

austere patio
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Only way I can see this happening is if entity_refs = [], so self._device_registry[device.ieee] exists but is empty?

golden vessel
austere patio
mellow geode
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Yeah, should be possible I guess

austere patio
#

Actually, it seems like asyncio.wait is not the correct thing to use here? It looks like it should be asyncio.gather(*remove_tasks)

carmine zodiac
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I need some kind of vibration sensor

austere patio
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Yes, Aqara is crap when it comes to standards compliance but is well-supported crap

stone halo
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Hi everyone, I’m looking for a recommendation for a new smarthome, I’m planning to use home assistant in combination with diyhue and want to buy some zigbee lamps I’m in doubt between a conbee 2 and the zigbee2mqtt approach, what is recommended? I might want to research creating zigbee appliances after a while so that’s something to take in mind

mellow geode
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Also, is there any way to remove these "ghost devices" that are left in HA now because ha_device_registry.async_remove_device wasn't called?
(other than removing it from .storage/core.device_registry manually and restarting Home Assistant because restarting ZHA always takes it bit with ~80 devices (and also polling all lights lol))

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Or, is it possible to have Home Assistant re-read .storage/core.device_registry (without restarting it)?

jolly narwhal
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@stone halo I can gladly recommend zigbee2mqtt with a TI coordinator

stone halo
jolly narwhal
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Never buy 2531

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For anything other than a router

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I can recommend cc1352 , or if you can get your hands on slaesh or zzh those are great

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The 2652 I don't know

stone halo
golden vessel
stone halo
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I wanna experiment with hue entertainment

golden vessel
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I don't really know diyhue, but couldn't you use the emulated_hue integration?

austere patio
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diyHue doesn't seem to be that low-level, it doesn't talk to the Zigbee hardware directly and goes through either HA or Z2M

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Does it even care if a light is Zigbee or not?

stone halo
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Not per say

austere patio
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So as long as ZHA works with the stick, it seems like it should work

stone halo
golden vessel
# stone halo How does the popp stack up with the conbee?

with the conbee you always need to use deconz to change some settings (like channel) and do updates (which are closed source)
the popp can be managed trough the cli with some simple utilities. and has kind of open source firmware 🙂
I cant say much about the diferences in chips' capabilities though

stone halo
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conbee works with zha too afaik tho

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ill try to find a cc2652 variant first but thanks for the recommendation! how is the range on the popp?

golden vessel
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yes it does. I've used a conbee 1 for a long time before getting the elelabs

jolly narwhal
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Or just do a ti chip and z2m that lets you change the channel in the config file, and update firmware from a cli @golden vessel 🤣

golden vessel
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with the elelabs stick I can change channel in the ZHA config and update with a cli too ❤️

jolly narwhal
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I had an elelabs ZigBee hat for my RPI, but since I threw the RPI out after three days, I sold it to someone on here yes

stone halo
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you guys only give more options to decide upon!! hahaha

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is slash an endgame stick?

sour shadow
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TI based

jolly narwhal
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It is a great chip, but hard to get

stone halo
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ill wait for stock, its europe based so that works i guess

jolly narwhal
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Which is why I've gotten a few people to order the 1352p2 instead, and so far all the users love it

stone halo
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if ot ill look into that 1352p2

stone halo
sour shadow
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I've no idea what you meant by endgame shrug

jolly narwhal
stone halo
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like, one of the best sticks you can get thats kinda future proof haha

sour shadow
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Well, you could just consult the Zigbee2MQTT docs 😉

#

There's always going to be better in the pipeline, but currently it's one of the better TI options

stone halo
tawdry dirge
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Hi guys, sorry for the question which is probably stupid... I have bound an IKEA tradfri remote to a lightlink group via ZHA, as soon as I bound it I lost ZHA events... I have seen the issue at https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/31734 which suggests to bind the coordinator to the same group to get the events back... Problem is I cannot for the life of me find a way to bind the coordinator to the group, it does not appear in the list of entities to bind to the group nor it's got the manage clusters button. I am sure I am missing something stupid... Anyone's got any idea?

tardy tapir
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Hi all! I just migrated from deCONZ to ZHA and I get no readout on my motion sensors. Should I use another entity than I did when I used deCONZ?

mellow geode
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Which motion sensors are you using?

tardy tapir
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Philips Hue and Aqara

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should I use the motion or the occupancy entity?

tardy tapir
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And one more question; can I rename the ZHA group entities?

mellow geode
mellow geode
mellow geode
golden vessel
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if you don't change the netid, the first time you open the network (Add Devices), they will rejoin (some automatically, others after powering), but some will fail

fallow sphinx
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hi i asked yesterday but needed to go to bed befor i fxed it but i cant for the life of me get my zigbee ikea switches to reconnect to my conbee 2

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i suspect it is because the conbee already thinks they are paird just offline

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is there a way to compleatly reset the conbee?

golden vessel
fallow sphinx
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1 of the on/off/dimmer and 2 of the big round 5 button remotes

golden vessel
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are you reseting the on/off with 4 quick presses on the reset button?

fallow sphinx
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yes

golden vessel
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turn it off, unplug and replug the conbee, boot up and try again

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if that does not work, click the Add Device button, reset the remove, click the Show Logs button and wait. When the scan stops, copy the logs and send them

fallow sphinx
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ok give me a few mins to restart

tawdry dirge
fallow sphinx
# golden vessel if that does not work, click the Add Device button, reset the remove, click the ...

here are the logs, also i forgot to say i have one of their sound volume controllers that i use for light brightness.

[0x0000:zdo] ZDO request ZDOCmd.Mgmt_Permit_Joining_req: [60, <Bool.false: 0>]
[0xB82F](SYMFONISK Sound Controller): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 2
[0xb82f] Extending timeout for 0x13 request
[0xb82f] Delivery error for seq # 0x13, on endpoint id 1 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
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at other times i have had the same message about all the switches but this time it was only 1

tardy tapir
fallow sphinx
#

@golden vessel any more ideas?

golden vessel
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that's the whole log for the complete 1 minute or so?

fallow sphinx
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yep

golden vessel
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is the remote near the conbee?
are you using a usb extension?
is it connected to usb2 or 3?

fallow sphinx
golden vessel
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the remote blinks and fades after the 4 presses?

fallow sphinx
golden vessel
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you can try enabling more debug logs (check ZHA doc page), so that we can try to see what's going on during pairing

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or reset the conbee (using GCFFlasher maybe)

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but if you do that, then remove the ZHA integration and start again...

fallow sphinx
#

ok i will try the debug logs and post them here

fallow sphinx
# golden vessel you can try enabling more debug logs (check ZHA doc page), so that we can try to...

ok here is the log from the add device page:

[0x0000:zdo] ZDO request ZDOCmd.Mgmt_Permit_Joining_req: [60, <Bool.false: 0>]
[0xB82F](SYMFONISK Sound Controller): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 2
[0xb82f] Extending timeout for 0x0d request
[0xB1FF](TRADFRI remote control): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 2
[0xb1ff] Extending timeout for 0x0f request
[0xb82f] Delivery error for seq # 0x0d, on endpoint id 1 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
[0xb1ff] Delivery error for seq # 0x0f, on endpoint id 1 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
[0xE233](TRADFRI on/off switch): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 2
[0xe233] Extending timeout for 0x11 request
[0xe233] Delivery error for seq # 0x11, on endpoint id 1 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
[0x3667](TRADFRI on/off switch): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 2
[0x3667] Extending timeout for 0x13 request
[0x3667] Delivery error for seq # 0x13, on endpoint id 1 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
#

give me a sec to filter the crap out of the massive long debug log

golden vessel
#

but you have a few weird fails there...

fallow sphinx
#

i also dont know what part of that log relates to the above connection atempts because i forgot to check the time stamp befor clicking ad device

golden vessel
#

The issue is probably the MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE

fallow sphinx
#

in my case the wifi interfirance seams likley

#

is there anywhere in the logs that says what chanel the conbee is using i cant find it

golden vessel
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not sure. but you can try turning off your wifi for a moment and test pairing

fallow sphinx
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not an option. fam will kill me

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also i have 4 APs all on difrent chanels so congestion is likley an issue

golden vessel
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you'll need to use deconz to change the channel anyway, so you better just check it there

fallow sphinx
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thats a windows software right?

golden vessel
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also works in linux

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and has a docker container too

restive elbow
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I've got some sengland bulbs and I can't seem to change the color temp. I could have sworn they supported it I'm not sure where to look

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Nevermind. These don't support it. Grumple

fallow sphinx
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and the chanel is 11

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my APs are on channels 11, 1, 5 and 9. that is ordered closest to the conbee to furthest away so basicaley worst case senario

#

what channel would you recomend

molten linden
#

Here we go..,

rotund wave
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Hey zigbee folks, I just ported to a container install and I have zigbee container installed, but I wanted to know how to add the configuration page to the sidebar?

fallow sphinx
#

still getting the MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE error

golden vessel
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@fallow sphinx try another usb extension (bigger one)

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and make sure that it is connected to USB 2 (not a blue port)

fallow sphinx
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ok will do

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side note when it was pluged into my main pc it had no extention and was pluged into a usb 3 port

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but it was the front port so not stuck around the back of the pc

fallow sphinx
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ok it is working now

#

it must have been the extention cable

#

need to find a more permanant solution for it though

simple sentinel
simple sentinel
wise sentinel
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Oh that looks really cool

#

But I will probably stick with the cheaper option

#

It looks like the case is 3d printed anyways

simple sentinel
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Oh definitely

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It's still a community based product

#

If the esthetics factor catches up with you though, there is one of your options 😀

wise sentinel
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Yeah I mean, it's not that important. I was more like curious.

#

But def thanks for the info. I appreciate it.

simple sentinel
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If you have access to a 3D printer you could probably come up with something equally cool

wise sentinel
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Yeah I actually do

simple sentinel
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Well there you go

wise sentinel
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I will try to search online.

simple sentinel
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Anyway, stay safe and good luck with the smart home rollout

wise sentinel
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Thanks, you too. Have a great day!

subtle portal
#

Irritated - just driven round all 3 Lidl’s in town and not one had the Zigbee sockets in stock 😦

molten linden
simple sentinel
#

It looks really cool, I put in the order with you earlier today 🙂

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I have a slaesh stick, so I already have faith in the hardware

cerulean thorn
#

There finally moved over to ZHA. strange thing I experience some dropouts of zb3 devices. Really wonder if I made the right choice as I start to see ZHA got so few devices supported in comparison to others - is it any plans to speed up support for devices?

wise sentinel
verbal shale
#

does anyone have a bunch of zigbee lights in a group like...13 in a group?

cerulean thorn
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I do

#

if you mean a zigbee group

#

or ha group

verbal shale
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no zha group

cerulean thorn
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yes I have all outside lights in a zha group

verbal shale
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i'm asking that because when i turn on a zha group, its a litle bit slow, not all bulbs go on imidiatly, its almost like one by one

cerulean thorn
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strange maybe interference

#

that behaviour I would expect from a ha group

#

not zha group

jolly narwhal
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shouldn't matter, but I'm curious about what coordinator @verbal shale

verbal shale
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sonoff zigbee bridge

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with tasmota

jolly narwhal
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not great

#

might be an issue

tropic depot
cerulean thorn
#

when looking at blackadder it just gives the impression so few is working

#

but I get you, if they keep compliant they should work

sour shadow
#

With ZHA devices are assumed to work - quirks are for when they don't

#

Other software uses the opposite approach

cerulean thorn
#

Right now I struggle with the blinds that exist 20 types of

#

I added it to the thread on github

fervent storm
#

just bought a few bulbs from Lidl - all work great apart from I am presented a color wheel (RGB) for a CCT bulb - how do i change the color temperature from within HA?

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Quirk: zhaquirks.lidl.cct.CCTLight - but I get a color wheel

cerulean thorn
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Is it a way to create a custom quirk and try it directly in live HA?

mellow geode
# fervent storm Quirk: zhaquirks.lidl.cct.CCTLight - but I get a color wheel

Huh, that's weird. These devices need the Lidl CCTLight quirk because they actually say they have RGB capabilities (even though they obviously don't).
The quirk overrides the capabilities to only show the color temperature slider. This was confirmed working by multiple users and the quirk hasn't been changed since. Which HA version are you running?

fervent storm
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running latest HA

#

I have RGB bulbs too and they work great

#

I also have some E27 bulbs and they show the color temp slider as expected in HA

#

they too are CCT bulbs

#

but the ones that are E14 seem to show the color wheel

mellow geode
#

But the quirk is also applied to these E14 lights showing the color wheel?

fervent storm
#

hang on - let me check HA

mellow geode
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Please upload the signature of the E14 bulbs (https://paste.ubuntu.com/) that are not showing up correctly (RGB wheel but no color temperature slider)

fervent storm
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Bulb not showing correctly =
Device info
TS0502A
by _TZ3000_oborybow

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Bulb showing correctly =
Device info
TS0502A
by _TZ3000_49qchf10

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this what u are looking for?

fervent storm
mellow geode
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Yeah, the quirk is also applied to these. It shouldn't show the color wheel then.
Can you go to Manage Clusters on the E14 bulb that's not working correctly.
At the top, select the LidlCCTColorCluster cluster. At the second dropdown menu, select color_capabilities (id: 0x400a) and click Read Zigbee-Attribute (or something along those lines) and send the output in the upper text here.

fervent storm
#

is that what u are after?

mellow geode
#

Yep

#

Please check if the color temperature slider now shows up. If not, also try to restart Home Assistant and see if it then shows up

fervent storm
#

still color wheel

#

going to restart HA

fervent storm
#

thank you

#

do i need to do that for all the other E14 bulbs?

mellow geode
#

It's possible that you paired these bulbs when you were on an older Home Assistant version (I think 2020.1.x? or even older)

fervent storm
#

no... all done today

mellow geode
#

Huh, really?

#

For the other bulbs, you need to read the attribute again (so that it outputs bitmap16.16 again)

#

and after you've done that for all, you can restart Home Assistant.

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Reading this attributes refreshes the cache for the color_capabilities attribute which is overriden by the quirk when reading it.

fervent storm
#

great - thanks @mellow geode

grand abyss
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Any recomended blueprint for the 5 button IKEA remote? I just grabbed one the week blueprints came out, but is there multiple bps that offer different functionality? I seem to be using starbuck93/blueprint.yaml atm. What is other people using atm? '

golden vessel
quick hare
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I am thinking of building a ZigPy quirk for the IKEA scene button but I have two questions : 1. Is there already someone working on it? 2. Is it possible to filter the number of events the device spits? (For each command, the remote produce 7 events which is fairly annoying to handle on the automation side.

mellow geode
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Is that the IKEA Shortcut button?

quick hare
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Yes

#

Oh no, just realized that I will need to double the % of the battery too. WTH IKEA? 😅

mellow geode
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  1. I'm not working on it yet as I haven't been able to get one of these buttons. Not sure if anybody else is working on it though.
  2. Does it cycle through all the 7 events? (and why lol) Can you upload the zha_events it produces (https://paste.ubuntu.com/) ?
quick hare
#

Sure thing

mellow geode
quick hare
mellow geode
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Wait, a single press sends 7 events?

#

lol

quick hare
#

Yeah

tropic depot
quick hare
cerulean thorn
#

@tropic depot great it would be much easier to help if I dont have to jump so many hoops. I guess for now I need to go into the docker and create the file manually

tropic depot
#

There is documentation in the quirks repo for testing on docker 😃

mellow geode
cerulean thorn
#

yeah that was what I was thinking, just need to do it live

tropic depot
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Damn it Julian... you beat me to it 😂

cerulean thorn
#

If I get it working, should I make a PR?

tropic depot
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Obviously 😃

cerulean thorn
#

great then I have a project for tonight lol

fallow sphinx
mellow geode
quick hare
fallow sphinx
#

I do need to find a better way to mount the other end of the usb

austere patio
#

What do the radio debug logs show?

quick hare
austere patio
#

Yeah

#

Are the packets sent with the same TSN or are these duplicate events intended by the device?

quick hare
#

Ok give me a sec I’m updating my BIOS.

mellow geode
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Or do what puddly says lol

mellow geode
quick hare
quick hare
cerulean thorn
#

I found it easier to access it directly from console instead of portainer

carmine zodiac
#

One of my snzb-02 keeps disconnecting less than 1 day after pairing it (zha). It starts by not sending any data for a while and my history chart shows a flat line, with the entity saying it last reported x hours ago. After a few more hours of this, the entity says unavailable and nothing more appears on the chart.

I've re-added it via zha permit, then add devices via this device (zigbee coordinator), then removed the device and re-added again through both methods. No matter what, it stops sending readings after a while.

My second snzb-02 has not had any issues. Bought both at the same time.

Stick is HUSBZB-1. I put both sensors on a table in the same orientation so the rssi would be the same (about -85). One disconnected, the other didn't. There are also repeaters in the same room and adjacent rooms.

mellow geode
#

I'm not sure if this is the issue but other people also report similar issues with the Sonoff Temp/Humidity sensor

carmine zodiac
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Is there any extra configuration I can check?

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Or return it as faulty?

mellow geode
#

Are the model ids the same for both devices?

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For example, one of my Sonoff motion sensors has MS01 and the newer one just 66666.

carmine zodiac
#

Where do I find that?

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First thing under device info?

mellow geode
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If you go into Settings -> Integrations -> Zigbee Home Automation: Configure -> Devices -> select the device then Zigbee Signature

carmine zodiac
#

Ok

mellow geode
#

(It's also on the device page but the signature specifies what is what and also has more detailed information)

cerulean thorn
#

Do I need to delete an re-pair when I added a quirk? Or is it possible to force reinterview?

carmine zodiac
#

Let me re-add again and tell you, it's gone

#

What's the ideal way to add to zha?

mellow geode
mellow geode
carmine zodiac
#

So I know of zha permit and adding via the zigbee coordinator

mellow geode
#

You don't need to remove the device from ZHA. Just reset the device (pressing the button on the Sonoff) and also permitting joins for every device.

#

Oh

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I normally just do it via the UI for all devices.

#

Any compliant devices will pick a good router/parent (only Xiaomi/Aqara devices really need permitting joins via some router/coodinator as they pick the first thing they see)

carmine zodiac
#

Is that "add devices via this device"?

mellow geode
#

Yes.

carmine zodiac
#

Ok

mellow geode
#

Normally you don't need that.

#

To allow joins for all routers (and the coordinator): click on Integrations -> ZHA -> "Add device" at the bottom right

carmine zodiac
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When adding, should the sensor be close to the stick or close to the room it will be in?

mellow geode
#

To the room where it's gonna be in.

#

However, Sonoff sensors should (since they are Zigbee 3.0) pick a new router (parent) if they are too far from the other one.

#

So, I'd try to put it in the room where it's gonna sit in. Click on Add device on the ZHA integration page. Then reset the device.

#

If that sensor is faulty (or running bad firmware), I'd return it because some other people also reported having issues with Sonoff sensors.

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But again, you can also check if the signatures are identical between both devices.

quick hare
#

Is it enough debug? I’ve only enabled the radio debug.

molten linden
mellow geode
carmine zodiac
#

Having trouble getting the sensor to be picked up again so I'll work on that and get back to you

wise sentinel
#

thanks a lot

mellow geode
quick hare
#

Let’s see.

mellow geode
#

Unrelated to the issue of duplicated frames: can you also upload the signature of the shortcut button?

quick hare
mellow geode
#

You can just go the ZHA page of the device and click Zigbee-signature or something like that

quick hare
#

Ah got it

mellow geode
#

(It’s also in the logs when joining a network but that’s always a bit of a hassle)

quick hare
#

Just sniffed the network. It look like a duplicated frame to my understanding. The counter in the ZCL is fixed. The the lower layers it increments. Not sure what that means : https://pasteboard.co/JPp8ddw.png

austere patio
#

Hmm, then in theory you shouldn't be getting duplicate events?

cerulean thorn
#

Im a bit confused as its not many examples. If I add the tuya whitelabel blinds, should I use WindowCovering or TuyaSmartRemoteOnOffCluster

quick hare
austere patio
#

I think that should already be happening. Can you enable debug logging for everything related to ZHA and upload like a minute of logs?

carmine zodiac
#

re-added it, both sensors say model TH01 by eWeLink

quick hare
#

But on the application level it does increment.

quick hare
mellow geode
carmine zodiac
#

cool, thank you

rotund wave
#

Hey folks running zigbee2mqtt on HA Container. I am coming from the supervised version and I just have a couple questions. Do I need to install mosquito broker too or does HA container have one?

quick hare
carmine zodiac
#

should the zigbee device signatures be identical for two of the same sensor or does it contain a unique ID?

mellow geode
quick hare
austere patio
#

Yeah, the ZCL TSN is the same

mellow geode
quick hare
#

Really a pitty of them for doing that.

austere patio
#

No, I think this is fine?

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Hmm, I am not seeing any code to deal with duplicate ZCL messages that have the same TSN

quick hare
#

Ok @mellow geode your quirk works. 🙂 @austere patio , unfortunately, with the quirk provided by @mellow geode , it still send’s 6-7 events with the same TSN. 😦

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Which is not surprising after all.

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@mellow geode Mhh, I see you doubled the power for the device but it is still at 50%. Strange.

mellow geode
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Perhaps it needs some time to send a new report

#

I guess re-pairing could help but I would just wait

quick hare
#

Ah you are right I think it is cached.

#

Look like it’s already on the latest firmware. 😦

austere patio
#

I can't find anything in the zigpy issue tracker about this problem so you may want to open an issue about it with your debug log

#

It seems a little unexpected for the messages to not be deduplicated. Maybe there's a reason for it.

quick hare
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If my memory is good, I have no other IKEA remote who does this. Very strange.

quick hare
verbal shale
mellow geode
#

I doubt that's the case but since you're using the HUSBZB-1, did you ever upgrade the firmware on it? @quick hare

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Upgrading EZSP-based sticks should also retain any configuration (and not wipe the whole stick).

quick hare
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Can confirm as well that it retained the config. 🙂

mellow geode
#

If you have another coordinator (perhaps just a cc2531), would you wanna try if that has the same issues with the button?

quick hare
#

Is there a cheap version of it easy to flash that I could buy?

mellow geode
#

I think you always need a "flasher".

#

Also, "MattWestb" answered on your GitHub issue but I sometimes have a bit of trouble understanding him.

#

Could you try unbinding the remote from the Zigbee coordinator?

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Via manage clusters and device binding

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Press a button on the remote and unbind from the coordinator

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Probably won’t help though but perhaps worth a shot

verbal shale
willow bronze
#

Question about ZHA visualisation map - is there documentation on what color of lines (connections) and numbers in the middle of them represent? and why there are 2 numbers divided by a slash

stoic venture
#

I’m not sure if this is a zigbee question or ha generally. I have an aqara contact sensor on my dishwasher. The only place I can put it that it is hidden and doesn’t get hit with a lot of steam means the contact is closed when the dishwasher is fully open. Basically I’m wondering if there’s a way to reverse the reporting of closed/open state or if I just have to do a template sensor.

sour shadow
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Depends, in part, on which integration 😉

#

See the channel topic

naive ivy
mellow geode
#

I thought they are both the LQIs (left is one device calculation and right side is the other one)

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TI coordinators don't expose RSSI and I still have two numbers.

naive ivy
#

Oh. Yeah, probably.

stoic venture
#

I’m using ZHA

mellow geode
primal ibex
#

Any other way of getting a RSSI sensor for a Zigbee device, rather than Z2M? (That for a unknown reason won't work..)

quick hare
quick hare
quick hare
quick hare
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Oh, the quirk for the battery also works @mellow geode . Thanks!

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Unfortunately, still have 7 events. 😦

mellow geode
#

But at this point, that's just guessing.

#

MattWestB mentioned that it sends unicast instead of broadcasts. So maybe binding it to the 0x0000 (or maybe even another group?) would change these to broadcasts (that no longer duplicate?)

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(When binding or unbinding, click the button on the remote first. Then bind or unbind)

quick hare
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WHAT THE.. @mellow geode Just unbinded from the coordinator and we’re now at just 4 events!

mellow geode
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lol

quick hare
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I’m cooking, will unbind from the rest to see..

mellow geode
#

How many mains powered devices (routers => smart bulbs, smart plugs) are in your Zigbee network?

#

Can you try to remove the device and then reset it.

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Then re-pair it with the shortcut button quirk "installed" (while pairing).

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That should then bind it to the 0x0000 group.

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This should start producing broadcasts instead of unicasts messages.

naive ivy
#

Anyone have any experience with extending a Zigbee network to a detached garage? It's about 40 feet away, with a couple plaster walls in the way. Looking for any and all ideas.

dry fossil
#

You have two options - stick a powered repeater halfway or use Z2M/Z2T over there and send the comms across WiFi/ethernet.

naive ivy
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I'm going to have to test and see how well it currently works with the repeater bulbs in my kitchen; it's the closest room to the garage. I don't expect it to be too reliable since WiFi wasn't. If not I think I'll make the leap to Z2M.

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Since I do have ethernet buried out to the garage already; it's where I run my business

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I had forgotten that Z2M can allow for a 'split' like that. Thanks for that knowledge

mellow geode
quick hare
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Just did. Unfortunately it returns to 7 events. Iv’e tried to unbind from clusters & all devices, only the coordinator seem’s to make a change from 7 to 5 events.

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I said 4 but I saw it’s 5 actually.

quick hare
mellow geode
quick hare
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Actually, I taught devices by default always did unicast to the coordinator no?

quick hare
mellow geode
molten linden
quick hare
naive ivy
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Think they'd be okay down to about -30C? 😄

molten linden
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The zigbee module is rated at -40c to +85c

naive ivy
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Perfect

mellow geode
quick hare
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Yeah. I’ll double check but yea.

quick hare
mellow geode
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Nah, for other IKEA devices that is required.

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I guess you can always re-add the coordinator though

quick hare
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ok

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oh my

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He’s right. The 2 button remote indeed does a broadcast.

quick hare
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Soo..... I think i fixed it? @mellow geode

mellow geode
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Oh, really?

quick hare
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It’s dumb.. and I have no clue why. I’ve added the ZLL zigpy profile and now I get only one event.

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Still not a broadcast taugh.

mellow geode
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Where did you add the ZLL profile?

quick hare
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At line 2

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Give me 5 minutes. I’m checking if it’s really that or just a golden bind. 🤣

mellow geode
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Okay then 😂

mellow geode
quick hare
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Yeah

mellow geode
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I‘m pretty certain that won’t change anything, as it’s not even used in the Python file

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Perhaps restarting home assistant after doing binding/unbinding did the trick?

quick hare
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hughh you we’re right.

mellow geode
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:/

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But I guess the binding and unbinding isn’t too far off

quick hare
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I honestly have no clue why it decided to spit only one frame about it. All I did was adding zlland rejoining.

mellow geode
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I guess it was the rejoin then

quick hare
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That would be insanely arbitrary then lol

mellow geode
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Look in the ikea __init__.py file