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amber gull
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Impersonated a Finnish person and added all the embedded engineers at IKEA via LinkedIn ๐Ÿ˜‚

mild merlin
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haha quite the ruse

amber gull
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All for nothing tho. Just severe stack bug. It gets worse the more you have

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I kept six of the bulbs but sold the rest๏ฟผ

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They always work in group mode for the most part but when they crash they break routing for battery powered devices๏ฟผ

mild merlin
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I just don't get why they seemed to work perfectly for a few months and then went off the cliff. That's what makes me think it's more related to some ZHA change. But maybe I crossed some threshold once I installed another room, but I don't remember the issue starting when I set up another room

amber gull
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So you could keep them on a separate network just by themselves and only add them via groups and everything would work๏ฟผ

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It correlates to how much traffic is on your network and ZDO parent announcements

mild merlin
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Funny enough for me it's the group behavior that is failing, talking to them individually seems stable, and all my battery powered devices seem really stable even though the EcoSmarts are everywhere and must certainly be used as the repeaters

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hmm ok. I do have my own home rolled circadian lighting, I can double check how often I try to update color temp but I thought it was only once per minute. And with Zigbee groups multicasting I'd expect the traffic to be much less than when I used HA groups unicasting to each one

amber gull
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If you want to collect debug logs, you can ping me next time it happens๏ฟผ

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Normal behavior it will partially crash, never be marked off line, but after two hours all connected children will be marked off line

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Any unicast attribute read to the crashed bulb will fail๏ฟผ

mild merlin
steep iris
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Is there a way to detect when a zigbee device it's powered on/off ?

mild merlin
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I'm getting APS_DEFRAG_DEFERRED when the issue happens

sour shadow
steep iris
sour shadow
obsidian sandalBOT
sour shadow
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โ˜๏ธ

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WHICH integration?

steep iris
sour shadow
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Not as far as I know, but their Discord might ๐Ÿ˜‰

steep iris
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Still learning ๐Ÿ™‚

mild merlin
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@amber gull - sounds like my issue might be different from what you ran into, as when mine fails waiting just a few seconds will have it working again. I just don't understand enough of the Zigbee protocol to know what APS_DEFRAG_DEFERRED means or at what part of the stack that might come up

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it sounds pretty low level, like messages being broken up into packets, which is why I leaned into signal reception stuff at the beginning, but no luck there

steep iris
obsidian sandalBOT
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@steep iris Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

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amber gull
mild merlin
hollow forum
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still figuring it out as it's not working, but this will make it easier for people with tons of Hue lights on ZHA

lime locust
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have a few sonoff snzb-04 door sensors , they have a tamper function , how do these work ?

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someone tries to remove case or ? what does it detect ?

short tree
sour shadow
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That will, just don't buy it ๐Ÿ˜‰

obsidian sandalBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are support. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah! and Slaesh's sticks being recommended. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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sour shadow
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โ˜๏ธ

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Pick your integration first

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Then pick your stick

short tree
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@sour shadow What do you mean .. dont buy it ?

obsidian sandalBOT
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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

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short tree
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What would you buy ?

sour shadow
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๐Ÿค”

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Did you read any of the stuff after I said don't buy it?

short tree
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no ..

sour shadow
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Then try that ๐Ÿ˜‰

short tree
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I have being looking though the site but non uk

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just them usb ones on ebay

sour shadow
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Ok, back to basics

lime locust
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trying to add a Trust ZYCT-202 wireless switch gives an mqtt error ?

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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-24 21:47:09: Failed to configure '0x00158d00038e5ff4', attempt 1 (Error: Bind 0x00158d00038e5ff4/1 genOnOff from '0x00124b0018e299ec/1' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms)
, at Timeout._onTimeout (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/utils/waitress.js:46:35)
, at listOnTimeout (internal/timers.js:554:17)
, at processTimers (internal/timers.js:497:7))

short tree
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@sour shadow Zigbee ?

strange ibex
short tree
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Yeh but hard to find a Hub for HA in UK ?

sour shadow
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zha?
Zigbee2MQTT?
deCONZ?

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Which of those have you chosen, or are you just randomly picking things with the word Zigbee

violet dagger
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Brexit hits hard the hub market too

sour shadow
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Thankfully ZZH was back in stock ๐Ÿ˜„

short tree
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Im just looking for what I can get lol

lime locust
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what could this be ?
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-24 22:04:35: Failed to configure '0x00158d00038e5ff4', attempt 1 (Error: Bind 0x00158d00038e5ff4/1 genOnOff from '0x00124b0018e299ec/1' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms)

golden vessel
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has anyone opened an elelabs stick? I'm curious to see the inside of such a small device

short tree
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instock where ZZH

strange ibex
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Razz, try to press a button on the device over and over while pairing

lime locust
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it seems paired , but no actions register

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ill try to repair

strange ibex
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okay, might be able to just press the reconfigure button actually.

lime locust
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its a remote that can directly pair with bulbs apparantly

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ill try

winter mist
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I had a VeraPlus Hub that after a year of use I feel like I need to give up on as it's just been nothing but unreliable. I ordered a CC2652RB from Slaesh for the ploethra of Zigbee devices I have (a combination of things Vera was talking to, and a metric butt load of Hue lights. I also ordered a HUSBZB-1 for the single Z-Wave lock that I have. The HUSBZB-1 showed up in Nov while the CC2652RB I believe got lost in the mail. I just ordered another one from Slaech but I believe he's been backed up fulfilling other orders.

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I got my Z-Wave lock setup with the HUSBZB-1 in November and that's been working beautifully.

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Earlier this week I had it with the Vera hub acting up and just removed the 10-ish Zigbee devices I had setup on there, and moved them over to ZHA talking to the Zigbee portion of the HUSBZB-1.

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I'm worried I'll just never get this second order from Slaesh, but maybe I will eventually.

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What are the pitfalls of using the HUSBZB-1 with ZHA for all of my Zigbee needs? I still have 30-40 something Hue lights I want to migrate over.

simple sentinel
winter mist
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But stories are the thread that keeps humanity's histories intact and alive. :P

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I'm also curious if anyone's ordered from Slaesh lately and how long shipping took for them?

sour shadow
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His customer service is ... legendary

simple sentinel
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I got Slaesh just over the holiday season , to be fair

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it came with gummibears

molten linden
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HUSBZB-1 is a solid choice, it is a bit long in the tooth, and SI Labs just dropped support for the chip it uses in their most recent sdk release. loads of people have used it with success. the devs of the ZHA integration and libs that support was done using that device as the target.

violet dagger
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That's just bribe

winter mist
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Has anyone hit a node limit with the device?

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And that will lead me to my next question. Does Zigbee (and more importantly ZHA) have some magic ability to have the devices make recommendations on device bindings per device, then have that automatically get applied once?

simple sentinel
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๐ŸŽฉ ๐Ÿช„ ๐Ÿฐ

winter mist
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Ok, so that's just a manual operation?

violet dagger
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No magic, just hard graft

winter mist
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Ok thanks.

short tree
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You recommend this one

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also this any good

strange ibex
sour shadow
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๐Ÿ˜‚

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Also, I can tell you with absolute certainty that a Z-Wave stick won't work well for Zigbee ๐Ÿ˜‰

golden vessel
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is there any zigbee inwall relay module that allows using the external switch independently of the relay?

bronze dragon
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Im having problems with ZHA and motion sensors, who tought it was a good idea to have the sensors not send motion state unless it's without motion for more than 2 minutes :/ completely ruins my automations to keep the lights on until i leave the room , the timer runs out without detecting motion because the sensor doesnt update state unless it doesn't detect motion for more than 2 minutes

golden vessel
mossy fern
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I am having problems connecting my switch (ROBB re-branded ICasa pulse S8) to Conbee II attached to my Synonlogy DS220+. Running the marthoc-doconz image. When adding the switch via the web UI and pressing the buttons as described in the manual of the switch, nothing happens until it times out. The list under 'switches stays empty. After having tried this a couple of times however the switch does show up as a device (ROB_200-007-0) in HA with just a single entity for the battery level. Deconz still shows no indication it has recognised the device. Any ideas how to fix this? I have not connected any other devices succesfully.

wanton bobcat
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Hey ya'll. I am about to pull my hair out - I have been troubleshooting for weeks and I'm at my wits end. I have the HUSBZB-1 for Z-Wave & Zigbee. Z-Wave network appears to be working just fine, but my ZHA Network is all sorts of borked. I have a total of 60 Zigbee Devices, with 141 entities and about half of them are not working anymore. They span different manufacturers, Hue Motion Sensors/Switches, Samsung Smart Things Buttons, LEDVANCE Smart Plugs, AQORA Humiture Devices, LEDVANCE Bulbs, etc. As a result automations just don't work half the time. I'm by no means a novice when it comes to these types of things, as I am a Sr Sys Engineer but I have to admit, I am quite lost here. I am about to blow away my entire home assistant and start fresh - I have a replacement Z-Wave and Zigbee USB stick (not combined, although I also have a secondary HUSBZB-1 I could try with). Any help is appreciated before I spend the next ~3 months re-creating everything. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Logs at: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Nkdn2SRWKb/

lilac wharf
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would need logs

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debug logging in particular could be helpful here

wanton bobcat
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I just enabled debugging and restarted it before I came here.

lilac wharf
wanton bobcat
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Yep

lilac wharf
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perfect. and with that i will leave it to those who can actually help from there ๐Ÿ˜„

wanton bobcat
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Are there specifics from the log that would be most helpful? Alternatively, is there a preferred way to share them?

obsidian sandalBOT
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Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs. Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

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wanton bobcat
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Thanks. (hopefully last question) what is the best method for extracting them? I know there is the home assistant log viewer that is built in, I also have the Log Viewer from the Add-On store - which will give us the best info here?

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(and do they have a way to filter?)

lilac wharf
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you can grep home-assistant.log

wanton bobcat
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ack. I am going to reboot home assistant and then let it run and only pull the logs from the timestamp from when it was restarted

lilac wharf
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logs are cleared on restart

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for...some reason

wanton bobcat
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ah ok, well then I will just grab what is here then. The last ~30 minutes. ๐Ÿ™‚

wanton bobcat
winter mist
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Ok I'm still a little stumped. Does ZHA or my HUSBZB-1 just handle the whole thing of allowing all of the devices to mesh with one another, or is that something I need to manually manage?

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I'm looking at the Network Visualization page, some devices are connected to the router by a green line, but most are just isolated.

wanton bobcat
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Seeing a lot of:

2021-01-24 22:01:59 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Checking quirks for None None (00:0d:6f:00:15:45:27:4b)
2021-01-24 22:01:59 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Considering <class 'zhaquirks.xbee.xbee_io.XBeeSensor'>
2021-01-24 22:01:59 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Fail because endpoint list mismatch: {232, 230} {1}
2021-01-24 22:01:59 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Considering <class 'zhaquirks.xbee.xbee3_io.XBee3Sensor'>
2021-01-24 22:01:59 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Fail because endpoint list mismatch: {232, 230} {1}
2021-01-24 22:01:59 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Considering <class 'zhaquirks.smartthings.tag_v4.SmartThingsTagV4'>
2021-01-24 22:01:59 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Fail because device_type mismatch on at least one endpoint
2021-01-24 22:01:59 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Considering <class 'zhaquirks.smartthings.multi.SmartthingsMultiPurposeSensor'>
2021-01-24 22:01:59 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Fail because device_type mismatch on at least one endpoint
2021-01-24 22:01:59 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Considering <class 'zhaquirks.philips.rwl021.PhilipsRWL021'>

wanton bobcat
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is it possible I need to update the HUSBZB-1 ?? I saw in a thread online something about the key table size ?

wanton bobcat
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well, that didn't change much ๐Ÿ˜• ugh.

jolly narwhal
sour shadow
wanton bobcat
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Anyone have any suggestions for me, prior to blowing it all away here shortly?

sour shadow
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I think the zha guru's are mostly not around at this time of day/night/whatever it is with you

violet dagger
untold slate
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What was that recommended zigbee controller solution again? The โ€œoh the 2531 is garbageโ€ one?

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Zzh

sour shadow
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It's even in the pinned messages ๐Ÿ˜‰

untold slate
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Not sure what those are ๐Ÿ™‚

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Oh right I see them

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Out of stock! Boooo

sour shadow
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Both the recommended ones for Z2M are done by hobbyists

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The other good boards though are larger and can be bought directly from the manufacturer

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You'll have to source your own case, that's all

latent rune
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Hi everyone.
I have troubles to have my CC2531, with external antenna, to work at startup of the HA. After 3-7 attempts with another CC2531 with embed antenna, the HA gets running and I can change to the CC2531 with external antenna and everything works fine for weeks ๐Ÿ™‚ In the ZeegBee2MQTT log I have this error:

Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC

I have been around the Internet but not yet found at working solution. Any ideas please?

sour shadow
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In the Supervisor it lists the connected hardware. Is that device shown there?

latent rune
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Hi Tinkerer. Where can I find the connected HW - in the log? If the should be in the log, I can't find the CC2531 HW.

untold slate
sour shadow
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Yup

sour shadow
untold slate
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@sour shadow Aside from the small range difference, there is no discernible difference between the two sticks for a novice like me?

sour shadow
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No

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There's even an article about that in the pinned messages...

untold slate
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So many pinned messages! ๐Ÿ™‚ I was already proud I had found the Google Doc with the stick comparison!

sour shadow
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๐Ÿ˜„

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They're basically the same stick with very minor differences

untold slate
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Shipping option: DHL

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Nope!

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Looks like I have a mule coming over from Europe in April or May. Time to start having stuff delivered to his house!

latent rune
# sour shadow I the _Supervisor_ menu - as I mentioned ๐Ÿ˜‰

In the Supervisor menu there is listed a HA Core update 2021.1.5 and information about the running 2021.1.4 and information about Add-ons in "Dashborad". Next to the Dashboard is the tabs Add-on Store, Snapshots and System. I can't find HW information in the Supervisor area.

sour shadow
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There should be a hardware list there somewhere. Maybe under System?

obsidian sandalBOT
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Various settings are hidden unless your user profile has Advanced mode enabled. These include some add-ons, the Lovelace Resources menu, server control options, and more.

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sour shadow
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You may also need that

latent rune
obsidian sandalBOT
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@latent rune Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

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sour shadow
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I know there's a list there somewhere because others have reported it ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Try setting Advanced mode and look again

latent rune
sour shadow
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๐Ÿค”

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See that?

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Click it, stop sending me notification pings

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or hell, read the bot message I tagged you in

dry fossil
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I'm always so tempted to tag you but I don't know how far I should push my luck ๐Ÿ˜„

sour shadow
old egret
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There you can see usb devices ect.

latent rune
sour shadow
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FFS

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It's on the right

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And you're on my blocklist for being so damned rude

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Goodbye!

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(this is the polite translation from what I've just said out loud ...)

old egret
latent rune
latent rune
old egret
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I guess we all dream back to the old IRC days - a more simple time ๐Ÿ˜†

sour shadow
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Try getting a steady stream of notification pings... it's not fun ๐Ÿ˜‰

obsidian sandalBOT
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@latent rune Rule #6: Spam will not be tolerated, including but not limited to: self-promotion, flooding, text walls (longer than 15 lines) and unapproved bots.

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timid niche
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Bjarke, just a suggestion, you should take a moment and go to #rules and read the rules, 5 minutes of your time is prob on the conservative side

old egret
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Bjarke, I think you should have the whole path, including the 0X00124B0014D97324-if00-part in your configuration

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That's what I have done in z2m

old egret
latent rune
devout egret
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Is anyone from https://slae.sh/projects/cc2652/ here? They don't reply my e-mail a long time and I am still waiting for invoice. Maybe my e-mails are in SPAM or something. I can't contact with them :/

austere patio
devout egret
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hmm I don't have telegram. But it can be the last hope.

old egret
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I got my stick from him earlier this month. Little long shipping (12 days), but guess that is because of the pandemic.

devout egret
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I got my sitck, but I didn't get an invoice.

old egret
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I got my order receipt the day I ordered, titled "Order SNIP-XXXX on slaeh's iot stuff"

devout egret
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yes, but this is not an invoice

old egret
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Not exactly, but it's the only thing I've got beside the shipping confirmation.

devout egret
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agree, this is the issue ๐Ÿ˜‰

austere patio
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The log should indicate when they announce themselves on the network after this happens

amber gull
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I believe the deconz guys are trying the same, though manup calls it a ZDP rejoin, not sure on how many protocol levels there are for rejoin

austere patio
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I think the ZDO leave-and-rejoin does the same thing?

amber gull
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k, thank you, trying to read through the spec

austere patio
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I'm really not sure. I think the ZDO is a proxy to the ZDP

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Or not

amber gull
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Will pull out all IKEA type devices via API -- Rejoin every 24hrs maybe? Log of rejoin, seemed to work -- artificially makes more announcements, so who knows if it will help https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HnGGpKYxsv/

austere patio
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That error is a bug but it happens at the very end of the command so it shouldn't affect anything

amber gull
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yeah, I was worried I was behind on zha_custom, but it did seem to work

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pulled last znp this morning as well, saw app changes on zstack lockup -- still waiting on mine to die again -- It will be hillarious if this random USB hub I found actually fixes the issue -- been about four days now, longest every has been 7-8 days

austere patio
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It just treats the lockup as a disconnect, no real changes unless Z-Stack magically starts working again after some time

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Mine is connected through a hub as well. Maybe that may contribute?

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Not sure how it would though, everything else connected to it seems to work fine

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Looking at the spec, I think the ZDP is just the name for a group of clusters (and some other lower-level commands) that every device has to implement?

amber gull
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I have tried mine now direct on USB3 ports, direct on USB2 ports, extension cable on both, on Aukey USBC hub, and now on Anker USB hub

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best was 1352P2 on USB3 with extension -- would usually last a week or so

austere patio
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If this doesn't work I'm sending you that CC1352P board back but with a SiLabs or FTDI converter taped on

amber gull
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lol, it's okay -- I'm getting a custom CC2652P2 hard wired hub soon

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It will completely remove the USB port, so that should do it ๐Ÿ˜

austere patio
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Tube's hub?

amber gull
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Yes

austere patio
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Might be a little harder to reset when Z-Stack does lock up though

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Unless he can add some easy-to-trigger endpoint to power cycle the chip

amber gull
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Yes, I guess it depends on root cause of lockup

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If it does keep happening, I believe the onboard ESP32 can hard reset the CC2652P2, but I'd have to ask @molten linden or go back and look at the schematic

austere patio
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When it happens again I'm trying my FTDI board

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The module has a reset pin so that should work

tropic depot
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@amber gull wonder where that is coming from... ๐Ÿ˜„

molten linden
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yes reset is tied to a gpio

amber gull
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Unless everyone has different advice, trying nightly 3AM rejoin of all IKEA mains powered devices -- Doing 1 per minute until all are rejoined https://imgur.com/0MwzfdI

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Actually 3AM is a terrible time, lights not coming on first thing in the morning -- Going to do 10AM

amber gull
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Just lost a TRADFRI bulb E26 CWS opal 600lm after having two IKEA outlets leave and rejoin ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

golden vessel
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for people wanting to use ZHA, is EZSP recomended over TI ZNP?

amber gull
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Yes, so we can lock them in to ZHA and educate them on software architecture

golden vessel
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But lets consider they are already experts on SW architecture, any downsides to TI chips?

mellow geode
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Z-Stack dying lol

amber gull
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There seems to be a rare issue where ZStack locks up

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But other then that, zigpy-znp has feature parity to bellows

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Does a bit more for retries and routing on the app side perhaps

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Both TI and SiLabs have kinda scattered and obtuse documentation -- TI may be a bit worse there

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EZSP on EM3581 can't process all group related frames -- but can on EFR32

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Higher end TI chips have more space for joined children -- 50 vs 32

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EZSP has some crazy counter support now and some cool Grafana dashboards

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Total messages in flight, would have to double check -- EZSP seems to be around 20 unicast messages in flight (maybe) -- Not sure on TI -- it seems to blast out messages even if it throws an error

austere patio
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16

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Though you can remove the soft limit and hope for the best

golden vessel
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thanks for the info!
Elelabs and Sonoff have the EFR32 right?

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Also... show us those cool grafana dashboards! ๐Ÿ˜„

amber gull
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Elelabs and Sonoff both have the EFR32 yes -- Sonoff requires signing so some random person (who probably works for itead?) on some random tasmota issue drops a new firmware every now and then

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Where as Elelabs can be built by anyone

golden vessel
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The first graph is very informative! ๐Ÿ˜„

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Didn't knew that Sonoff required signed FW. :/

amber gull
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I can't take the credit for the screenshot, Admingui made it ๐Ÿ˜† I made a little bash script to extract counters and then he got the itch and made the above

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CCA errors were really interesting, less on HUSBZB-1 when directly plugged into USB port -- more CCA errors when using extension cable

golden vessel
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ that's... unexpected

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or, someone messed up the counter ๐Ÿ˜„

amber gull
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Shielding is good enough that the extension cable is doing nothing but acting as a RF sink -- unexpected and unintuitive

golden vessel
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Now I feel like I should stop recommending extensions to people ๐Ÿ˜„

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any EFR32 sticks other than elelabs?

amber gull
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Ebyte PCB

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@molten linden has a EFR32 hub for sale

orchid galleon
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Anyone know how to get the network map up for Zigbee? Can see my devices, but no lines etc

molten linden
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^Soon

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and it will be choose your own adventure.

spare ridge
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is it possible to use sonoff zigbee bridge, over an ftdi serial, instead of over wifi?

golden vessel
molten linden
amber gull
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If I scan your IKEA cards from MattWestB do I get free lingonberry jam? ๐Ÿ˜†

tropic depot
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lol

latent rune
lime locust
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does anyone know how to program the sides for the aqara cube ? my cube only shows actions flip90 flip180 , no sides ? want each side to have a different radio station ...

molten linden
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so I just confirmed z2m works with that device that is coming soonish...

golden vessel
austere patio
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Likely the CC2652P. There are nice modules now for every common Zigbee SoC.

golden vessel
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ah!

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I just checked the ebyte one for the first time. Cheap! ๐Ÿ˜„ Is it any good?
I'm still trying to understand the flash process

somber sparrow
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Hey, I've rebuilt my HA setup recently and used ZHA for my Zigbee related devices, which were working great however after updating the instance to the latest (2021.1.5) my Zigbee devices aren't responding. I haven't readded as I want to avoid it if I can, but ultimately I will... But the entities start as unavailable after a reboot, then after a couple minutes they're shown as available but doesn't respond to changes, such as light bulbs. Anyone else experienced thing?

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this*

old egret
somber sparrow
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I just readded them :/ works now

molten linden
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Yes the cc2652p2 supports z2m but I will have efr32 too.. hence choose your own adventure

green sparrow
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Hi all. I'm using zha on a RPI4, with the conbee ii. HASS and supervisor fully up to date. Yesterday I was doing some testing, and plugged in a zwave usb stick to the rpi4. Played around with that, and then removed it.

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Unfortunately now my zha integration is completely dead. Checking logs, and it looks like the integration can no longer access the serial port of the conbee device

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I get this error: "FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2216206-if00'"

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I've confirmed that that path is correct, and even ssh'd in to see if that's really there... it is

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Anyone have any ideas?

austere patio
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Python doesn't lie

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Did you pass through this path to the container running Home Assistant?

green sparrow
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@austere patio it's a RPI4, so no containers involved ๐Ÿ™‚

austere patio
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If you're running Home Assistant OS I'm pretty sure everything is in a container. Is this different on the Pi?

green sparrow
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oh. Not sure, but i didn't think so? how would i check ?

austere patio
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But that should be handled automatically

green sparrow
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I'm wondering if it could be the permissions on the device... ?

austere patio
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You wouldn't get a FileNotFoundError error in that case

green sparrow
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true.

austere patio
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Hmm. I don't use Home Assistant OS so I'm not 100% sure on the specifics but last I tested it in Virtualbox, it picked up new USB devices within the actual Home Assistant container just fine

green sparrow
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hmm. ok so i removed the zha integration, and now trying to re-add it. now in the dropdown for selecting the device, it shows "/dev/ttyACM1 - n/a, s/n: n/a"

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where i'm sure it previously used to show all the device details there

austere patio
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Yeah. That seems to match up with the existing behavior, where the serial port isn't visible to Home Assistant

green sparrow
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might remove the stick, reboot the pie, and then re-connect it

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maybe that'll reset things

austere patio
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If it's visible to the main OS but not to the container you may want to try rebooting

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Or boot with it plugged in

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I'm not too familiar with how the OS handles that so you may want to wait until someone who actually knows something about Home Assistant OS is around ๐Ÿ˜†

green sparrow
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... still rebooting

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ok. it's back, and it's working now. but I've lost all my device config ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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i guess i should restore a backup/snapshot

gentle fern
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Hi all. I seem to have issues with devices dropping off and constantly needing re-pairing

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I've got a Tasmota ZBBridge, anyone else had this issue?

mellow geode
gentle fern
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Any tips on changing the channel my zigbee hub uses? I've tried setting 'channel' in zigpy config but it hasn't changed it after a home assistant reboot

crystal wraith
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I have yet to commit to zha or deconz. Right now I have all the lights in HUE (mostly INNR lights) since I heard "that is the way to go" and the rest of the stuff(sensors mostly) in deconz. Would anyone suggest to transition to ZHA (or stay away)? I am probably going to be a lot of sunnreicher dimmers for replacing all of my lights so have to commit now or forever hold my peace. Have a Conbee II stick. Also do any of the HUE apps work for ZHA/deconz?

fervent storm
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Did something happen with ZHA battery reporting? I've just noticed that all my devices are either 100% or 50% (rounded values?) and not the 46% 84% etc levels that were being reported about a month ago?

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These are Xiaomi aqara devices btw

opaque locust
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@tropic depot When I issue a move_to_level command it works just fine, but HA does not (always) update the brightness state after it has reached it. If I go into integration settings and get the level that way HA updates the brightness. I've tried to reconfigure the device but it does no difference. Have you noticed this issue?

sudden fern
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@opaque locust Please just open a new issue. Thanks ๐Ÿ‘

opaque locust
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@crystal wraith I would go with zha. I "lost" light constantly with deconz. zha is very stable

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@sudden fern sure

tropic depot
crystal wraith
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@opaque locust do you know if I can use some of the Hue apps (like any third party apps) with zha?

fervent storm
opaque locust
opaque locust
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@tropic depot Is there any command available to force a ZHA connected light to update, using services?

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I can do it with with the integration page, but I can't see any services like zha.get_zigbee_cluster_attribute

broken cairn
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Hello, i am new in zigbee/zha world and i am trying to add two yi sensors(pir and reed) to my system, but i have problem with this error. Devices are connected to hass, all their clusters are aknowledged, and i think that they match. But i can see that zha doesnt understand their lang ๐Ÿ™‚ [zigpy.device] Failed to parse message (b'0300020000003001') on cluster 1280, because Data is too short to contain 1 bytes

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How can i make zha to speak this 0300020000003001 lang

crystal wraith
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@opaque locust haven't seen that but I will check it out, thanks!

tropic depot
turbid pewter
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I have a running Sonoff Zigbee Bridge flashed with Zigbee2Tasmota (ncp-uart-sw_6.7.6_115200) not (ncp-uart-sw_6.5.5_115200) for HomeAssistant. I can't change the firmware because it's integrated to Control4 via Tasmota/MQTT. Is there a way to identify the Zigbee devices from HA?

sick osprey
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Someone else having problems finding the Aqara vibration sensor with HA and a conbee?
can't seem to get it recognized
should the LED blink all the time while in pairing mode?
or just for ~1 sec

dusky hill
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Anyone have advice on zigbee integration? Who knew there were so many options :/
I started out reading the conbee ii was good using deconz, but am curious about how that stacks up against zigbee2mqtt or zha

sick osprey
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i'm using the conbee with HA and it works pretty good besides that one problem

dusky hill
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seems to be the quick plug and play solution with opportunity to grow to the TI for zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
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IMO you want to use zha or Zigbee2MQTT depending on whether you want it built into HA, or separate

amber gull
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Yeah, not to rain on deconz, but not sure their competitive advantage anymore? Conbee 2 is only stick that works with deconz, ZHA and zigbee2mqtt but it's support under ZHA and zigbee2mqtt is sub par to the other sticks

shy goblet
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Anybody else has the same problem? Using mosquitto and I cant pair more than 6 devices

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Fairly new installation of HA with all the updates

sour shadow
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You don't pair devices with Mosquitto...

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I assume you're actually using Zigbee2MQTT?

shy goblet
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yes using that but devices appear on mqtt

sour shadow
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Yes, but you're pairing with Z2M, not Mosquitto ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Mosquitto/MQTT is just a message transfer thing

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So, what stick?

shy goblet
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ok got it

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cc2531

sour shadow
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What firmware?

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The source routing firmware has a limit of 5 directly connected devices

shy goblet
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ok i bought a stick that was pre flashed to 1.2

sour shadow
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There's two different options for 1.2 ๐Ÿ˜‰

gloomy pivot
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well I've got my first aqara motion sensor coming today... hoping they'll successfully convert me from wyze sense sweat_smile could anybody that has these comment on how long they stay on once triggered? I know that the wyze sense ones stay for 45s after the last motion

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if it matters, for the time being, I'll be using it with a husbzb-1 and zha, but I have a ZZH coming as well, and intend on switching to z2m at that point

sour shadow
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Also, the CC2531 are ... known to be cheap and nasty

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Sometimes you need to stop Z2M, pull the stick out, wait 30 seconds, put it back, start Z2M again and then it'll let new devices join

shy goblet
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so i could pair more devices than the current 6 if I pull stom z2m and remove the stick and start z2m?

sour shadow
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Maybe

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If that's got the right firmware

shy goblet
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or is there also limitation for device amount?

sour shadow
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and the devices are in range of the stick

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You need mains powered devices to extend the mesh

shy goblet
sour shadow
dusky hill
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sorry got caught up with work. my first zigbee devices was the aqara magic cube. i plan to add some other switch plugs (s31 lite) and light switches. what would you recommend for the zigbee stick instead of the conbee 2?

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im running HA on an unraid server in a VM so I'm not sure if I should run the Zigbee controller in HA VM or unraid docker. may explore a separate Pi later but no need for that yet

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@sour shadow if you have any input ๐Ÿ™‚

obsidian sandalBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are support. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah! and Slaesh's sticks being recommended. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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Pick your integration first then pick your stick ๐Ÿ˜‰

dusky hill
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probabem is idk which integration to go with first haha

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thats what im looking for help on

amber gull
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Pick your devices first then pick your integration ๐Ÿ˜‰

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s31 lites are not so great btw

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cheap and nasty CC2530 and no firmware updates

sour shadow
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ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

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Do you want it tightly integrated with (part of) HA? Then use ZHA

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Do you want it separate, so you can use it from any system? Then use Z2M

dusky hill
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I'm using HA as my base but is ZHA as flexible as Z2M?

sour shadow
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Honestly, you won't go wrong with either

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It's personal preference

tranquil forum
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Hi all. Im using ZHA with the custom Sonoff zigbee bridge with tasmota. How many devices do you all have? I started getting issues after 32, thats including routers... 6 routers and the rest is end devices (mostly aqara stuff)... Is that normal?

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I started noticing that eveything updates slower and slower, suddenly i couldnt add devices and at the end the whole zigbee network fall down, then i removed a bunch of units and things started to come back and now with 32 units its fine.

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Things seems like its meshing good looking at the ZHA map..

dusky hill
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okay good to know. is any easier/better than the other? do both work with the magic cube (my sole zigbee device atm ๐Ÿ˜„ )

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ZHA sounds nicer given the integration but wonder if its a limitation later. I already use mosquitto for s31 energy monitoring over mqtt so I'm not afraid of that side for setup

old kernel
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I got lots of errors transmitting to battery powered / sleepy devices with z2m with a conbee2. It would probably be better with a different SoC, but I switched back to ZHA where everything just works.
ZHA occasionally has lost a device on a HA Core restart, where z2m never lost anything... So for me it's a toss-up which is "better"

dusky hill
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ya conbee2 sounds like not as ideal if not using deconz

sour shadow
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It's not ๐Ÿ˜‰

mellow geode
austere patio
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Devices that never initialized I think are removed from the database after a restart

mighty island
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Hi, I've just got into zigbee for the first time. I have a Tasmota'd Sonoff Bridge which works well for my needs. I've added in some sonoff and ikea lights etc. I have one sonoff door sensor that shows up in the map, but has no connections to it. I can see it works, and it's fairly close to the coordinator and plenty of nearby router devices. Does the map need rebuilt? How do I trigger that? Any advice for a newbie appreciated.

tranquil forum
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Developer tools - > services - > zha_map.scan_now

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But for me, it takes like a day before things start to settle, @mighty island

amber gull
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(deprecated, still building tool for on demand scanning)

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default is every 2 to 4 hours I believe, just gotta wait for it

dusky hill
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which of the EmberZNet sticks are the best to get? hard to tell in the recommendations section

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leaning towards going ZHA

mighty island
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Aha, thanks. Will wait and see. It would also be useful if I could embed the visualization into a web card without the menus, or for it to be available without going through 'add device' ...

amber gull
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You can do that for the visualization and add it right to the sidebar

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@dusky hill Checkout Elelabs

dusky hill
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can it be used with a pi zero or does it need more horsepower?

amber gull
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Also have a #zigbee-archived regular that is putting Zigbee hubs together and will be available soon -- Comes in EmberZNet or TI variations

dusky hill
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

amber gull
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Not sure on Pi Zero -- not the platform I would pick to start personally, but I don't stay up to date on them either

dusky hill
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got it, i jsut have 1 lying around so i figured id check ๐Ÿ˜›

sour shadow
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You can run Z2M on a Zero

dusky hill
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but should ya?

sour shadow
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Well, I'd say no in general ๐Ÿ˜„

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If you wire it, rather than using WiFi, it's going to be ok

mighty island
dusky hill
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gotcha, i think it makes more sense to just grab a new pi, is a 3 + sufficient?

sour shadow
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Easily

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Though, powering a Pi4 is going to be more reliable since it uses USB-C PD

dusky hill
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sigh, im just more confused now hahaha. what do you guys use for zigbee?

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the area where i need to run the connector needs to be separate from my office so something that hooks into a pi would be ideal so likely looking into the Elelabs for ZHA

sour shadow
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Well, I run Z2M on an old laptop, with my ZZH on a 2m USB extension stick.

molten linden
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hashing out my zigbee hubs.. waiting on some supplies hopeful I will have ~10 TI 2656p2 based zigbee to ethernet that will work with ZHA or Z2M available in about a 10-20days. Printing cases as I type.. https://imgur.com/a/NeHetVd blue cases were proto-types. also prototypes in the pics.

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smaller quantity efr32 (ZHA only - for now) based ones same time frame.

dusky hill
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can you run ZHA on a device that isnt your HA device?

sour shadow
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No

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It's part of HA, you can't separate it

dusky hill
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got it, hmm my office is on the other side of the house from where im most likely to have devices initially

sour shadow
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Yeah, so's mine

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I stick a router device in the "middle" of the house to solve that

dusky hill
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I know the mesh network will exist at some point, but I dont have any meshing devices yet

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so maybe a Pi with zigbee2mqtt is the right move

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separates the device from a bunch of networking/electronics anyways

molten linden
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that's what my gateways will do.. they do require ethernet though to ensure a good connection to host. I was motivated by the disconnect issues of the Sonoff hub over wifi.

sour shadow
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Great thing about Z2M is that if you have to you can run meshes in different locations, and have it all visible in HA

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Even if those devices are miles away

dusky hill
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so on z2m i could have 2 meshes of zigbee?

sour shadow
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I currently do

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Part of the plan to separate my Zigbee 3.0 devices from my 1.2 devices

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Which ... isn't working out that way ๐Ÿ˜„

molten linden
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you can run zha as a custom component and have 2 that way, or one of each. ๐Ÿคฃ

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or more.

dusky hill
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huh interesting. i like that idea so i can run stuff upstairs in 1 side and downstairs on the other

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now to figure out what the right device to buy for that is ๐Ÿ˜„

sour shadow
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If you're in the UK, ZZH. If you're in Europe, and feeling lucky, Slaesh.

dusky hill
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in US

sour shadow
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Then... consider the dev boards

dusky hill
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any direction on where to look for dev boards

sour shadow
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They're large, but local

molten linden
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if you want to try out my hub in the US and could get a TI based board out in the next few days.

sour shadow
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I know @waxen jungle imported a few ZZH (he's also in the US) but I don't know if he's sold out

molten linden
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PM me if interested

old kernel
mellow geode
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Mhm, that shouldn't happen.

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Do you remember what device it was?

mossy fern
# mossy fern I am having problems connecting my switch (ROBB re-branded ICasa pulse S8) to Co...

I am having problems connecting my switch (ROBB re-branded ICasa pulse S8) to Conbee II attached to my Synonlogy DS220+. Running the marthoc-doconz image. When adding the switch via the web UI and pressing the buttons as described in the manual of the switch, nothing happens until it times out. The list under 'switches stays empty. After having tried this a couple of times however the switch does show up as a device (ROB_200-007-0) in HA with just a single entity for the battery level. Deconz still shows no indication it has recognised the device. Any ideas how to fix this? I have not connected any other devices succesfully.

wispy plank
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Hey guys, I'm having an issue with my Tradfri Dimmer Switch (https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tradfri-wireless-dimmer-white-10408598/). It initially connects fine, but after a few hours stops working. I have replaced the battery so that isn't the issue. Anything else I can try? It's happened multiple times now. The coordinator is the TI CC2531 and it's using the ZHA integration

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I have another Zigbee button that works flawlessly so I do not think it is the coordinator and there are only these two devices so network load shouldn't be an issue either

hollow forum
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I noticed I can create groups in the ZHA integration. If I were to group zigbee lights together using this, how would that differ from a typical HA light.group? Performance advantages, etc?

molten linden
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the commands to the lights would be sent to the zigbee group, instead of multiple commands to each individual light if in a ha light group.

hollow forum
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sounds slightly better, but probably not noticeable?

amber gull
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Typically, all the lights respond at the exact same time

old kernel
# mellow geode Do you remember what device it was?

I have 3 battery powered Zen thermostats, and during various host reboots and core restarts over the 2 weeks i've been setting things up, 2 out of 3 of them have fallen off at least once. One hardwired light bulb too (Osram/Sylvania Lightify).
When I say "fall off" I mean that it shows up in HA as unavailable, and on the entity page the status shows as "Restored".
They are all rock-solid when I leave things alone and don't restart the coordinator.

hollow forum
verbal shale
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wifi vs zigbee

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xD

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12โ‚ฌ zigbee bulb

dusky hill
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what ZHA hub device do you guys use?

verbal shale
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sonoff zigbee bridge

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT with ZZH!

hollow forum
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HUSBZB. but I can't tell you if it's any good since I only have 7 devices

dusky hill
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thanks

dusky hill
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@verbal shale did you flash the bridge or use it stock?

verbal shale
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i did flash with tasmota

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its very easy

dusky hill
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hows the performance over wifi?

verbal shale
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for now....same

dusky hill
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i flashed s31 with tasmota so im not that concerned but a bit skeptical on wifi performance compared to hard wired as well as range

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also I assume youre using zigbee2mqtt right?

verbal shale
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nop

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zha

full junco
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Hey guys, is HA Supervisor a requirement to use Zigbee2mqtt? Im running HA on docker so looking for options.

verbal shale
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nop

sour shadow
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I don't run HA Supervised, or HAOS, I run Z2M with both Core and Container installs ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Only thing that's required is a working MQTT Broker

full junco
sour shadow
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Well, sort of

dusky hill
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so you plug the sonoff bridge directly into you HA host?

sour shadow
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I run Z2M in a separate container, and point it at my MQTT broker

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Then you point HA at the same broker

full junco
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Ok think I'm missing the broker bit. Very much a noob with this MQTT lark.

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I've just got a flashed CC2531 usb.

sour shadow
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  1. MQTT Broker (usually mosquitto)
  2. Zigbee2MQTT with stick (you got the cheapest one, but it's an ok starter) pointed at that broker
  3. HA, with the MQTT integration, pointed at the same broker
verbal shale
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@full junco the sonoff have an advantage....you dont need to plug in anywhere, its a wifi device

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with zigbee

violet dagger
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advantage?

full junco
sour shadow
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The Sonoff isn't supported by Zigbee2MQTT though, so ...

verbal shale
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@sour shadow the MQTT in sonoff is for what than?

sour shadow
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For something else ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Those are the ones that work with Z2M

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That's quite limited by comparison though

violet dagger
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we prefer "different" ๐Ÿ˜›

sour shadow
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Differently capable ๐Ÿค”

verbal shale
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limited?!

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limited with what?! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

violet dagger
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aren't you using zha? ๐Ÿค”

full junco
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What would you guys say is a top Zigbee receiver if I decide to upgrade? I'll make a note!

verbal shale
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10 devices and still growing in my house lol

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@violet dagger i'm

violet dagger
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i rest my case...

sour shadow
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Ten... I have 40 on my CC2531, and another dozen on my ZZH so far

verbal shale
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i'm trying to slash all my wifi devices ๐Ÿ˜›

sour shadow
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At least with Z2M you don't have to manually create all the entities ๐Ÿ˜‰

violet dagger
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i've 29 living happily on zzh! and Z2M

verbal shale
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I think all the solutions are good for now

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some more complex than other

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like deconz

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๐Ÿ˜›

dusky hill
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As someone new to this. What are the most common devices you guys have added

amber gull
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light bulbs

verbal shale
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light bulbs

violet dagger
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sensors

verbal shale
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2 place...sensors

hollow forum
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I've added all my hue bulbs. Only 6 seconds delays to turn them off ๐Ÿ™‚

verbal shale
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lol

old kernel
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light bulbs and thermostats, and a motion sensor here or there

verbal shale
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@hollow forum do you have some hue go ?

hollow forum
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nope just white and color bulbs

verbal shale
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oh

dusky hill
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interesting, all of my lights got changed to recessed can lighting. do you guys just keep the light switches on all the time?

sour shadow
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I go with smart switches not bulbs

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Others go with smart bulbs everywhere

old kernel
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6 second delay?! i have sh*tty osram zigbee bulbs, and even though the wall switch I use is zwave, so it is going zwave -> HA -> zigbee, it's still under 700ms

hollow forum
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I have no idea what I'm doing ๐Ÿ™‚

dusky hill
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ya im tempted to go the smart switch route. smart bulbs are only as smart as the switch

verbal shale
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I have a chinise now zigbee bulbs...they have instant response

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lol

hollow forum
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channels are seperate for 2.4 wifi (11) and zha (15)

old kernel
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I have a mix. I use smart switches mostly. I put in a smart switch then added zigbee bulbs on that circuit so i could have color and tunable white, so then i configured the switch to be just a scene controller, and set the relay to always on

verbal shale
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@old kernel like me ๐Ÿ˜›

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and some wireless switchs too

hollow forum
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I didn't have the issue when using the hue bridge so I am thinking it's my husbzb or just some noob mistake

dusky hill
#

any zigbee smart switches or plugs youd reccomend?

obsidian sandalBOT
#

See the pinned messages

Command '.pinned' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
#

Just ... not Osram

old kernel
#

Why not Osram? I only ask because I have 9 currently that are working great

#

oh, osram plugs and switches. i have bulbs...

hollow forum
sour shadow
#

Osram are know to behave poorly, bulbs, plugs, you name it

#

I mean Xiaomi implemented the least of the Zigbee spec they could, but they're still better than Osram...

dusky hill
#

thx tinkerer

#

how would you say the ZZH compares to a TI board

hollow forum
gloomy pivot
gloomy pivot
hollow forum
#

I'm not sure if it's 100% fixed but after deleting home-assistant_v2.db it seems a bit better....for now

gloomy pivot
#

I should maybe mention, I have two sengled bulbs, two aqara switches, two aqara temp/humidity sensors, and now one aqara motion sensor.

hollow forum
#

Hmm I'm using all Hue bulbs and 2 ikea switches. Do you use a usb extension cable?

dry fossil
#

Please don't spread misinformation.

#

It would be more accurate and more helpful if you said they report no more than every 60 seconds by default

marble fable
#

Xiaomi aqara zigbee cube... Yay or nay?

dry fossil
#

It's a gimmick. Go for it if you want a silly toy.

marble fable
#

Well I'd want a gimmick which also works properly xD

dry fossil
#

I haven't heard anything about them being unreliable. It's all whether you have the imagination to come up with automations that care about which way up a cube is.

dusky hill
#

which is better, zzh or ti board + antenna? in the US so ZZH gets a bit pricey

#

@marble fable i just got 1 and have it working for me in node red atm

#

i think it has some cool applications

hollow forum
#

Have it be a key to your house. 83.33% secure ๐Ÿ‘

dusky hill
#

im intrigued to see if it can be used as a proxy for harmony hub

marble fable
#

Also...does anyone here have z2m run on docker on sth that's no a pi?

dusky hill
#

theres 1 on unraid, but that may not be too helpful

dry fossil
marble fable
#

-10ยฐC outside, I'm in front of the house. "To many wrong tires. Try again in 12h"

dusky hill
#

ya the 2 small z2m devices both are across the pond so TI seems like it may be the best bet. im curious on the range.

marble fable
#

Disadvantage of the Ti is the size i guess.

#

Bigger is not always better #thatsnotwhatshesaid

#

So for 7โ‚ฌ he could ship it.. would take a while tho I guess.

gloomy pivot
#

@hollow forum a short one, nothing worth mentioning... I just ran out of physical space ON my device for "thick" sticks

gloomy pivot
#

I'll look up this fabled "hack" and see

hollow forum
gloomy pivot
#

my ports are relatively close together, and I already have the wyze sense bridge and BT dongle plugged in, so I just needed something to bring the stick further away

#

the husbzb-1 being wider physically than a "simple" usb plug

#

yeah... while I'm not uncomfortable (necessarily) with the steps needed to hack this sensor, for the average consumer, the detection timeframe is 60s and not configurable. I don't think that's misinformation at all.

#

and the steps are in a random korean blog, not something that's obviously available as a modification

dry fossil
#

Risk breaking it? It's a 2 second job with a pencil.

gloomy pivot
#

ok that was before I looked into it that I said that

#

I stand by my above statement

gloomy pivot
dry fossil
#

Think about how it reads to people seeing your comment in isolation.

#

'This thing can only do X'

gloomy pivot
#

thank you for your help ๐Ÿ‘

#

I will probably do the hack

dry fossil
gloomy pivot
#

perfect ๐Ÿ‘Œ

#

I wouldn't have thought to read the Z2M docs for it, as I don't use that ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ

gloomy pivot
#

ah, also the original blog post doesn't actually mention doing it with a pencil... nor a video. can I literally just draw a line between the points?

#

has anyone here actually performed the hack?

#

also, what is a DHT?

austere patio
#

I did all six of mine and they work

thick zealot
#

I've found that these get set to 'clear' after 60s even if there is continued motion

#

Obviously, this would prevent one from reliably controlling on/off status for lights, so I began to be dismayed at the fact that these sturdy little sensors may be worse than the Wyze sensors they replaced

#

From my tests, it seems that after 60s, the motion is set to clear by either HA or Deconz, because the status is set even when I remove the battery

gentle flint
# mild merlin I'm getting `APS_DEFRAG_DEFERRED` when the issue happens

APS_DEFRAG_DEFERED is a bit misleading. it is status 161 == 0xA1 and A1 for EZSP corresponds to "EMBER_NETWORK_BUSY" -- A message cannot be sent because the network is currently overloaded. Group Commands are network broadcasts, for more routers you add to the network, more routers have to re-broadcast those and while one router re-transmits that broadcast, the other router has to wait and then re-transmit the same broadcast.

#

but really i have not seen that EmberStatus nor really sure what could be adjusted to make it better

gloomy pivot
gentle flint
#

or try 7 too. Tasmota uses 7 ๐Ÿคท

mild merlin
# gentle flint <@!725731067033550848> try modifying <https://github.com/zigpy/bellows/blob/d4ba...

That's a good tip, thank you - it has seemed like some sort of overload, as waiting a few seconds and trying again seems to usually go through. I also wonder if I might have some overly chatty devices, or perhaps my once per minute-ish circadian lighting updates are lining up and setting up a storm once per minute. My other attempts so far of updating my Zigbee stick firmware as well as turning on source routing have been unsuccessful so far, even after a day or two to give the source routing time to rebalance.

wanton bobcat
#

Hey @gentle flint - I removed my comment from that person's thread in the ZHA - and I was able to fix the USB device paths (not sure why they changed, but got that back). I still have some devices offline though, so I am going to post my issue(s) to a separate issue. Apologies there, thanks for spotting that andn hoping you or someone can help me figure out what's going on in a larger sense with devices becoming unavailable.

mild merlin
mild merlin
gloomy pivot
#

looking into the docs for setting up z2m, for when I get my zzh... I see this:

When migrating from another dongle (e.g. CC2531), make sure to modify your pan_id in your configuration, otherwise Zigbee2MQTT wonโ€™t start.

I currently use an husbzb-1 stick, do I need to do this? what are the consequences if not? also, I assume that I'll have to re-setup my devices... as they won't be connected to the same coordinator anymore? do I need to remove them from the one first? etc

#

or I suppose, is there a good guide/docs on migrating from one coordinator to another?

raven chasm
#

Is zigbee supported as part of remote_assistant setup?

gloomy pivot
#

so yeah, it seems 7 devices on my husbzb-1 is just too many

jolly narwhal
#

That sounds unlikely @gloomy pivot

#

Pretty sure people run dozens on that one

gloomy pivot
#

fair enough, I just noticed a handful of my devices going offline multiple times since I added the 7th one ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ could be something else going on

jolly narwhal
#

Probably yes

gentle fern
#

Hi all. I've got a sonoff zbbridge and various devices keep dropping off the network. Any tips on finding out why?

sour shadow
#
  1. Your mesh isn't healthy and you need more routers
  2. You've got incompatible devices on the mesh and they don't like talking to each other
#

So... details on your setup would help ๐Ÿ˜‰

gentle fern
#

There's every chance my mesh isn't healthy. The zbbridge power is set to max (20db) but all I've got are end devices. 2 Tradfri on/off dimmers, 5 Tradfri remotes, 2 Tradfri motion sensors, 4 sonoff motion sensors, a sonoff environment sensor and a sonoff button. I thought the zbbridge would be able to cope with that. And it does, for a while

#

My Tradfri lights are still all set up on a Tradfri hub as I haven't been able to pair either of my (relatively) easily resetable bulbs with the sonoff. It just doesn't see them

sour shadow
#

Max transmit power on the zbbridge doesn't help your devices be heard by it ๐Ÿ˜‰

#

Are any of those devices non-battery though?

#

Because, that's not a good setup

gentle fern
#

Nope, all battery. And yeah, I know. That's why I mention the tradfri lights

sour shadow
#

I'd be pretty certain your problem is that the devices can't reliably reach the coordinator, and you need to buy some routers...

gentle fern
#

Argh

sour shadow
#

Even a few of the Tradfri routers would do

#

(probably)

gentle fern
#

So I've got on the waiting list for an Electrolama ZZH. Does the increased radio power of that negate the need for routers?

sour shadow
#

No

#

If you can shout ten times louder than your friends, does that help you hear them when they're far far away?

gentle fern
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

#

so now it's a case of finding the cheapest repeater I can find

#

Annoying thing is that I'm only in a ~90m2 2 bed apartment

#

I thought the range should stretch that far

sour shadow
#

Well, yes, except you have walls, furniture, and mobile signal blockers (humans being mostly water are amazingly good at blocking 2.4GHz - which is about the same frequency your microwave uses...)

#

Also, end devices are low power, and often have "not great" antenna

gentle fern
#

So it looks like the sonoff basiczbr3 acts as a repeater (according to HA forums), but I can't find proper confirmation of that anywhere

sour shadow
#

If it's mains powered it should - some bulbs don't, and some two wire switches/dimmers don't

#

Alternatively a handful of CC2531's flashed with router firmware... they're naff coordinators, but they're ok routers

gentle fern
#

It's a shame I can't pair my tradfri bulbs

dawn thistle
violet dagger
#

BASICZBR3 does act as a router

#

you can even flash it with custom firmware

upper cedar
#

does anyone know if this mod also works on aqara vibration sensors?

#

the vibration is reported only once a minute, like pir for those other sensors that were modified

old kernel
#

I've noticed that one of my light groups seems to turn on by itself in the middle of the night. I checked logger and it just says "turned on". any ideas where I could look to start figuring it out? ZHA

fleet wedge
#

I finally received sleash usb stick, but i can't find the device adres for it.
The instructions say to click on hardware in supervisor settings but i don't have a hardware button

old kernel
#

supervisor --> system tab --> host pane --> 3 dots menu bottom right --> Hardware

fleet wedge
#

Thanks

#

Oh i need the mosquitto too

sour shadow
#

For Zigbee2MQTT, yes

fleet wedge
#

Ok it all seems to be working , but idk how to add devices yet, are they going to be discovered by mosquitto?

#

Looks like zha supports all my stuff too

#

So i could use that instead

sour shadow
#

You probably want to read the Z2M docs ๐Ÿ˜‰

jolly narwhal
old kernel
#

no. only zigbee devices on the mesh are bulbs, 3 outlet repeaters, and 3 thermostats

#

I wonder if it is voltage fluctuations

jolly narwhal
#

They would have to be quite big I guess

verbal shale
#

does anyone know alternatives to sync light bulbs with tv

#

?

#

or this only can be achieved with philips

jolly narwhal
#

Hyperion

#

And I think I saw a DIY Philips one too

gentle fern
violet dagger
gentle fern
vocal scroll
#

Hey guys, I've just managed to install a Raspbee II module in my HA RBP4a and got deConz (and Phoscon apparently) installed after a lot of fidgeting around. Now I intend to slowly start adding devices. First was a simple Xiaomi button (switch), which connected to the controller without issue.

Now I've got about 80 Signify/Hue devices attached to two Hue bridges. I'd eventually like the Raspbee to control everything, but will start out with just a few lights. I have two questions I was hoping you guys could easily provide an answer to:

  1. Is there an easy way to batch-reset/remove hue lights/devices away from the Hue bridge? Historically, I often noticed that I had to reset the lights themselves as well after removing them from the Hue bridge, which would be an incredible amount of work.

  2. For Hue, there's a lot of great apps/interfaces such as Hue Essentials. Is there actually anything similar for deConz/Zigbee2MQTT/HA? Or will I have to create that myself using the HA interface such as Home Panel?

violet dagger
#

repeaters solve connection issues, not pairing issues. that's between the device and the coordinator

vocal scroll
#

Since a bulb is connected to the grid, shouldn't it act as a repeater anyways?

#

Which only matters if it can talk to the controller in the first place, of course.

golden vessel
thorny phoenix
#

usb cable dimension matters? i want to move controller in middle of the house

old kernel
#

@verbal shale in theory, using one of the hue apps like hueDynamic coupled with the hass emulated hue addon would let you use the phone camera pointed at the TV to sync your lights.
I haven't tried it yet though

mellow geode
#

Now they just need to implement that imageType is always 0 and manufactureCode is also 0 sometimes.

#

I guess I should try if these OTA images already work with ZHA.

#

Or if we have another IKEA scenario here ๐Ÿ˜‰

verbal shale
#

@old kernel can you point me in the right direction?

old kernel
desert cloak
#

Does anyone know is there a way to control white channel of tradfri rgbw bulbs e14 and e27 with zigbee2mqtt? It seems that this is possible only with Ikea gateway and app. After resetting these are much brighter (white channel in use) but after changing anything with zigbee2mqtt/ha only the rgb are in use and can be controlled.

mellow geode
#

If you set them to the exact "orange" color they use at startup, they'll be the same color.

#

I hope they bring out proper RGB-CCT lights at some point. The new "RGB(W)" GU10 are also only RGB and some white LEDs (not both cool + warm white leds).

#

The new GU10 RGB(W) bulbs might react differently in regards to presenting a color temperature slider though.

#

And I think the IKEA app basically just has some presets.

lament loom
#

Should I upgrade cc2530 to make it supporting zigbee 3.0?

#

Cuz im a donut and i bought dimmers with 3.0 in it and my dongle doesnt support it

sour shadow
#

The dimmer will work fine with it

#

The CC2530/31 already are the slowest of the slow, don't make it worse with Zigbee 3.0 firmware

lament loom
#

QS-Zigbee-D02-TRIAC-2C-LN

#

Isnt connecting

sour shadow
#

That's unlikely to be an issue with Zigbee 3.0 support in the stick

desert cloak
lament loom
sour shadow
#

Out of range of the mesh would be the most likely

thick zealot
lament loom
sour shadow
#

Buy a better stick and migrate then ๐Ÿ˜›

dawn thistle
jolly narwhal
#

cc2530 no

sick osprey
#

Oh, perfect time for me to ask.. are there zigbee repeaters you guys can recommend which will work with a conbee 2? Zigbee devices are not automatically repeaters, right?

lament loom
sick osprey
#

i've found something like Lupusec Radio-Controlled Socket with Electricity Meter and ZigBee Repeater but they are like 50โ‚ฌ and that's way to expensive imho

lament loom
#

What stick u prefer

desert cloak
#

(Almost) all ac powered devices are acting as routers (~โ€œrepeatersโ€). There are some problems I think between ledvance and xiaomi end devices though.

sick osprey
#

good to know, thanks!

jolly narwhal
#

I love my CC1352p2

sick osprey
#

i have a silvercrest plug (Lidl) here, maybe that will work

jolly narwhal
#

unorthodox, but damn it is good

lament loom
#

That price tho

desert cloak
#

And if there are areas without lamps just buy cheap Ikea tradfri smart sockets there.

sick osprey
#

I've mounted a vibration sensor on my mailbox but i'm living on the 2nd floor and couldn't get any signal.. hope maybe that will fix the problem

sick osprey
lament loom
#

zzh! CC2652R - what do u think

near echo
#

I have CC1352p2 as well - pretty great range. But relegated to development duties - the CC2531 with antenna covers the house so not complaining. Not so many devices as well

lament loom
#

Mine also covers the house but doesnt support my superduper switch/dimmer

near echo
#

really the CC2652 has problems? it is one of the flagship product. Nevermind just saw the above post you use CC2530 - is this with separate Antenna ?

lament loom
#

Without, dont need. I have zigbee bulbs

near echo
#

with what I have experienced, antenna increases the range and quality tremendously - the LQIs tell teh whole story

mental wave
#

Anybody have experience with Ikea Tradfri power switches on deconz? I grabbed a few and they were working great for a few days but now they are intermittently unresponsive and I'm also having issues with some other zigbee devices. Problem is I also updated home assistant in the interim so hard to know what the problem is. From searching the discord I do see intermittent reports of this, but no clear solution.

lament loom
near echo
#

okay make sense. Unfortunately, there are not many custom "dongle" like product for CC2652 or CC1352p.

#

I am just hoping that the fantastic dongle for nordic nRF52840 could be made to work with zigbee-herdsmen. There are so many varieties of those

lament loom
#

No one in my country sells something different than cc2531/30

near echo
#

yep - time to build our own!

lament loom
#

I guess ill flash mine 2531 for a while, hope it doesnt burn

#

Our country of course

#

Wow CC2530 + CC2591

near echo
#

I have been running 2531 for a while - almost 24X7 - steady and reliable. infact have couple of them - one acting as router and sometimes paired with CC135p for development

sour shadow
#

Worth reading <#zigbee-archived message> when picking TI sticks, it summarises the various generations so you know what you're getting into

#

(from the pinned messages)

lament loom
#

Wrr my brain hurts, I dunno if I should wait for new dongle or upgrade 2531 for this zigbee 3.0

#

Only 16 devices here

thorny phoenix
#

don't upgrade

#

it works...as can it be at its capacities

lament loom
#

All other devices costs me additional 10$-15$ for shipping only Qq

thorny phoenix
#

i am also on cc2531 and i'm waiting for 2538+2592 to come

lament loom
#

You are from?

thorny phoenix
#

is written in the name ๐Ÿ™‚

lament loom
#

Kay :D

old kernel
#

i thought switching to zig3 coordinator firmware wouldn't really have any effect if your devices aren't zig3

sour shadow
#

Well, the firmware requires more of the coordinator's resources, so if you're on a CC2531 or 30 it'll slow that down even more

lament loom
#

ordering CC2652R for 40โ‚ฌ with shipping

old kernel
sour shadow
#

Yeah, it'll perform as fast as a snail in a freezer ๐Ÿ˜›

old kernel
#

what SoC does the sonoff bridge have?

#

EFR32. is that one any good?

fleet wedge
#

I can't pair the Lidl motion sensor to zigbee2mqtt

#

It says device left network after trying to interview it

#

I've put it very close to the sleash stick but it makes no difference

faint elm
#

Hi All, I have an Elko Dimmer/switch paired in deConz, visible in Phoscon and accessible via REST-API, but it appears as unavailable in HA.
I have tried all possible ways to get it available, but unsuccessfully.
Binding it to the coordinator in deConz was successfull, but did'nt solve the problem.
I can also bind it directly to any light, and dimming/on/off works fine, but no events are visible to HA.
I have updated both the switch SW as well as the ZigBee radio firmware.
Please help

gentle fern
# old kernel this looks sorta promising, for ZHA users https://community.home-assistant.io/t/...

I'm calling it so-so at the moment. I have one and stuff keeps dropping off. That could very well be because All I've got is that and 15 end devices though, no repeaters. Got a plug arriving this evening though, so I can report back. My other issue is that the 2 tradfri bulbs I've tried to pair haven't been seen by it at all. Now I suppose this could also be a repeater issue, so am gonna test again this evening

old kernel
#

you have the new efr32 dongle?

gentle fern
#

The sonoff zbbridge

old kernel
#

ah. same chip, yeah

#

Wish I had more of a hardware dev background, it would be nice to get a production run of 1000 CC2652Rs with compact shells built for this side of the atlantic...

mellow geode
fleet wedge
#

Lidl sensor doesn't show up through the tuya intergration either

#

Is manually adding the sensor going to work?

amber gull
#

@old kernel i have a new cc2652 hub on the way

#

From the west side of the Atlantic ๐Ÿ˜€

fleet wedge
#

Ok the Lidl sensor Works

#

After pairing with the hub , and then trying again it connected

#

It has a one minute cooldown

amber gull
#

FWIW -- My experience of sending a daily ZDO leave with rejoin to all IKEA devices -- actually makes the devices less stable and more prone to crash

scarlet oyster
#

Hi, using z2m, I had to "migrate" to a new stick, because my old CC2531 died. Now I have a brand new CC2652RB from slaesh.
I changed the "pan_id" in the config as documented in the docs. But all my zigbee devices are gone.
Is there a way to get them back without re-pairing all of them?

sour shadow
#

No

scarlet oyster
#

Yeah, I was hoping for a non-intrusive way to get them all back, well...

#

Wait, are all of them "recognized" again? Because it seems so.
And while I am rebuilding the whole network, is the cleanest way to rename all devices in Z2m and then let it update HA's entity ID(s)?

sour shadow
#

Yes

gloomy stag
#

Hello, I am having issues with my Zigbee network this morning. I'm new to Home Assistant, I'm on day 3 or 4 of switching over from SmartThings. About half of my devices have been moved over so far, and as of last night the network was fine. This morning the entire Zigbee network is down, but Z-wave seems to be working ok. Any suggestions on what I should do? https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/l69kjh/zigbee_network_is_down/

amber gull
#

If you restart your bulbs/lights/garden spots, do they come back to life?

#

old/some Osram and all GE are about as shaky as it gets for stability and routing

gloomy pivot
amber gull
#

It's the Silicon Labs EZSP/EmberZNet EM3581

gloomy pivot
#

ah, ok

#

ope, I actually found the manual... says it right there lol

amber gull
#

What broke in bellows? I haven't been following that closely

#

Defrag?

gloomy stag
amber gull
#

There is a bug that marks the stick (coordinator) offline

#

Extension cable probably won't help (will actually maybe hurt a little) - but won't be root cause

#

if you enable debug logging (above) and restart HA, we can see what's going on

gloomy stag
#

I just rebooted HA with debug logging enabled. Where can I find the logs?

amber gull
#

There will be a home-assistant.log file in your config directory

gloomy stag
#

Do you want me to upload this log file somewhere? Seems pretty long.

amber gull
#

You can PM it to me if you want

gloomy stag
#

ok, I've sent you the entire log file.

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs. Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

Command '~share' was invoked by: Tinkerer
amber gull
#

got it, oh using deconz!

#

I'm a slow deconz reader -- Can you give the NWK (0xABCD format) of a non working device?

gloomy stag
#

I'm pretty new to this, I'm not sure I understand what you are asking for

#

I found this on a non-working Zigbee device (TV lights)
Nwk: 0xd062

amber gull
#

You can go Config > Integrations > ZHA Devices -> Pick the device and it will be tehre

gloomy stag
#

Ahh ok, thank you.

#

TV Lights: Nwk: 0xd062
Porch light: Nwk: 0x05fd
Cabinet lights: Nwk: 0x2f25

amber gull
#

How about the IEEE for one too?

#

Will be in the same place, 00:11:22:33:44:55 format

gloomy stag
#

TV lights: IEEE: 84:18:26:00:00:04:e4:d6

amber gull
#

huh, weird, I don't see any of those in your log

#

I don't know enough about deconz logging to know what it does when a device is really offline

#

I can see it talking to some devices without issue

# 
    369 x0c39
    555 x0dd9
    146 x1c82
    158 x26f2
    374 x7933
    137 x7bd7
    150 x821f
    181 x897f
    166 x9baf
    125 xaa99
    167 xb687
    437 xcf2e
    371 xd42c
    368 xd4a3
    156 xdc78
#

and 371 x06c7

#

first number is the count of frames, and second is the NWK

#

You don't have deconz container running too, do you?

gloomy stag
#

I am running the HASS.IO OS image, nothing more on that Raspberry Pi

amber gull
#

k -- ignore what I said about extension cables -- Conbee really likes/needs them

gloomy stag
amber gull
#

๐Ÿคฏ

molten linden
#

huh

amber gull
#

You sent me a zigpy deconz home-assistant.log which only runs on Conbee/Raspbee sticks ๐Ÿ˜†

gloomy stag
#

Ok. Does that mean i setup Zigbee incorrectly? Used the wrong plugin for the hardware?

amber gull
#

and none of your problematic NWKs are in that file -- and more devices shown in that file then in your screenshots ๐Ÿ˜œ

gloomy stag
#

Ok. So im getting the impression I should remove Zigbee and maybe start over?

amber gull
#

Shouldn't have to, but something is wrong somewhere if that is really your log file

#

the library deconz, won't work on your HUSBZB-1 stick

#

Did you get the Pi from someone else?

gloomy stag
#

No, I bought the Pi brand new over Amazon. Same with the SD card and SSD.

amber gull
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lol -- jesus christ, I downloaded it again and now it's the right file

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sorry, no idea what went on there

gloomy stag
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Haha its been one of those days ๐Ÿ˜„

amber gull
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well at least we have the right file, lol

2021-01-27 20:07:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp.protocol] Send command getValue: (<EzspValueId.VALUE_VERSION_INFO: 17>,)
2021-01-27 20:07:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp.protocol] Application frame 170 (getValue) received: b'0007c20305040100aa'
2021-01-27 20:07:06 INFO (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] EZSP Radio manufacturer: HubZ ZigBee
2021-01-27 20:07:06 INFO (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] EZSP Radio board name: HUSBZB-1
2021-01-27 20:07:06 INFO (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] EmberZNet version: 5.4.1.0 build 962
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Showing Nortek GoControl HUSBZB-1 with stock firmware

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2021-01-27 20:07:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] [0x05FD](GE_Appliances ZLL Light) restored as 'unavailable', last seen: 20:43:27 ago
2021-01-27 20:07:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] [0x98A9](CentraLite 3315-S) restored as 'available', last seen: 4:04:27 ago
2021-01-27 20:07:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] [0x2F25](OSRAM LIGHTIFY Flex RGBW) restored as 'unavailable', last seen: 20:13:57 ago
2021-01-27 20:07:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] [0xD062](OSRAM LIGHTIFY Flex RGBW) restored as 'unavailable', last seen: 20:34:57 ago
2021-01-27 20:07:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] [0x18AE](OSRAM LIGHTIFY Flex RGBW) restored as 'unavailable', last seen: 21:11:06 ago
2021-01-27 20:07:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] [0x8740](OSRAM LIGHTIFY Gardenspot RGB) restored as 'unavailable', last seen: 20:54:14 ago
2021-01-27 20:07:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] [0x24ED](SmartThings multiv4) restored as 'unavailable', last seen: 20:34:25 ago
2021-01-27 20:07:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] [0xACC5](OSRAM LIGHTIFY A19 RGBW) restored as 'unavailable', last seen: 20:13:44 ago
gloomy stag
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It says "last seen 20hr 13 min ago". That is about an hour after i added the last device for the night.

amber gull
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Not a single successful zigbee message delivered in your file

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All failures

gloomy stag
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

amber gull
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It appears communication with the HUSBZB-1 is up and working fine

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It's trying to send, but not hearing anything back

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Let's try rejoining a single bulb and see what happens

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Gotta step away for a second, but ping me and maybe included updated log (hope discord doesn't eat it again) that has pairing details

gloomy stag
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Ok, so just to confirm. You want me to reset the Zigbee devices and try to add them with HA again, correct?

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Should I remove / delete those devices from HA first?

amber gull
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No, you don't have to delete them

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Just factory reset a single device and add it back

gloomy stag
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Ok, will do that on a couple of devices & report back. Thank you.

gloomy stag
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I reset the cabinet lights & tried pairing with HA. HA wasn't finding anything. I removed the device from HA and tried scanning again, it's still not able to find it.

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I think I might try excluding the last device I added last night.

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While trying to add the reset cabinet lights:

[0x0000:zdo] ZDO request ZDOCmd.Mgmt_Permit_Joining_req: [60, <Bool.false: 0>]
[0xD062](LIGHTIFY Flex RGBW): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 1
[0xd062] Delivery error for seq # 0x2b, on endpoint id 3 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
[0x05FD](ZLL Light): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 1
[0x05fd] Delivery error for seq # 0x2d, on endpoint id 1 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
[0x18AE](LIGHTIFY Flex RGBW): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 1
[0x24ED](multiv4): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 1
[0x24ed] Extending timeout for 0x31 request
[0xACC5](LIGHTIFY A19 RGBW): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 1
[0x18ae] Delivery error for seq # 0x2f, on endpoint id 3 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
[0x8740](LIGHTIFY Gardenspot RGB): Attempting to checkin with device - missed checkins: 1
[0x24ed] Delivery error for seq # 0x31, on endpoint id 1 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
[0xacc5] Delivery error for seq # 0x33, on endpoint id 3 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
[0x8740] Delivery error for seq # 0x35, on endpoint id 3 cluster 0x0000: message send failure
amber gull
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Yeah, those are normal for where you are at now

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It's basically acting like the receive radio is bad for the HUSBZB-1

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these are the symptoms you would have it were not "hearing" anything at all

hollow forum
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My HUSBZB has the opposite problem. Not deaf, but mute or at least a very slow talker

gloomy stag
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So I reset the last bulb that I connected last night before everything stopped working. It's not responding to HA, but the bulb is showing up as online now. Added the latest screenshot in here: https://imgur.com/a/IrCeMaK

gentle fern
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So. Even with a repeater added in to the mix my Tradfri bulbs are still not pairing with my sonoff zbbridge

neat pulsar
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Hello

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my z2m plugin does not start anymore

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basically getting Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-27 21:57:35: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman

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this happened apparently after I removed a series of devices that are paired to a hue GW

sour shadow
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12 info lifecycle zigbee2mqtt@1.17.0~start: Failed to exec start script
``` that's an odd one
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Try pulling a fresh image?

neat pulsar
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I have removed the addon

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just reinstalled it

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getting the same

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by pulling a new image, can I do that outside the UI ?

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because I assumed a reinstall would do that

sour shadow
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Not sure how it works with add-ons

neat pulsar
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I'll uninstall again

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and then docker container prune as well as docker image prune -a

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pulled usb dongle off and back in

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work again

golden vessel
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anyone figured it out why the IKEA motion sensors report ghosts? or any workarounds?

orchid elbow
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i've got a smartthings v4 outlet. on/off and watts work fine. querying the clusters though, there's rms_voltage and others in ElectricalMeasurement. it doesn't have a quirk - would one need to be added to get those other parameters? i listened to events and didn't see it sending voltage events :/

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using zha, btw

orchid elbow
gloomy pivot
austere patio
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Which pad?

gloomy pivot
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tp4

austere patio
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Are you using a blowtorch?

gloomy pivot
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nope, soldered wire to it, went to bend to other point, pad pulled right off

austere patio
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So in this image, the top pad?

gloomy pivot
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yep

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on step 4 my sensor is toast

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well idk

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I haven't started it back up yet, may work fine

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but can no longer do the hack, since there is no pad to connect

austere patio
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I'd clean up any solder blobs off the board to make sure you're not bridging anything else

gloomy pivot
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I've already processed amazon return, won't be hacking replacement

austere patio
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But yeah, if you ripped the pad off I don't think tracing it back to the NXP microcontroller is going to end well

gloomy pivot
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I stand by my previous statement that these sensors do not allow you to change the detection rate, and are set at 60s... not "60s by default"

austere patio
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That is true

gloomy pivot
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thank you

austere patio
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They only send a "motion triggered" event every 60-65s

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With the not-so-user-friendly mod, they send it every 5

gloomy pivot
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yep, super easy mod according to mono ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ

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and everyone else I asked

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before attempting the solder

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I tried with a pencil, and it had no effect

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so went for the way described in the original blog post, which has NO mention of doing it with a pencil anyways

austere patio
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The pencil "works" but soldering it seems to be the correct way

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I'm not too sure how this was even found to begin with

gloomy pivot
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yep, as I mentioned yesterday, this is a hardware hack that risks breaking your device, and is not something the average consumer can do

austere patio
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Definitely

gloomy pivot
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where were you yesterday? ๐Ÿ˜…

austere patio
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I believe you asked if anyone did this before and I said I did it to six motion sensors ๐Ÿ˜†

gloomy pivot
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ah fair enough lol

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like I said, won't be doing this on another one

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took about five seconds to screw it up

austere patio
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Do you have much soldering experience? It's a little tight.

gloomy pivot
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not like 20yr worth, but I've done a fair bit recently, and thought I was getting pretty good at it...

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soldered to pad, pad broke off

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just like that

austere patio
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Especially if you're (possibly) soldering with an iron that's meant for much thicker stuff

gloomy pivot
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I mean I got it soldered fine

austere patio
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I had to use plastic-coated magnet wire and route it around everything else to get the angles right

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Otherwise it would pop off the pad

gloomy pivot
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it was connected so well that the pad came right off lol

austere patio
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Yeah, unfortunately that's what it takes to configure an Aqara sensor

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They're "Zigbee"

gloomy pivot
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are there any motion sensors with configurable detection time?

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or like... less than 45-120s?

austere patio
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The new ones that should eventually end up on Amazon in a few months should be Zigbee 3.0 complaint and you can do this with software

gloomy pivot
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by default

austere patio
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I believe the Hue ones are configurable

gloomy pivot
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alright

austere patio
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But I would double check

gloomy pivot
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I got this one (at the recommendation of someone... can't remember who) to replace a dead wyze sense motion sensor

austere patio
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The Zigbee2mqtt documentation would expose the timeout period if it existed

gloomy pivot
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and asked in multiple channels long before I even received it, how long the detection rate was

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had no idea to look into z2m docs, as I don't use that, nor do I have a stick that is compatible with it

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real bummer because the wyze sense one worked pretty much perfectly, up until it died

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I could even handle 45s cool down

austere patio
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The Wyze sensors that Wyze managed to permanently brick by writing their own crappy homebrew firmware for it instead of using something sensible?

gloomy pivot
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yep

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those

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the contact ones are working fantastically for me still, as well as one other motion one

austere patio
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The Z2M docs, even if you don't use it (I don't), usually expose everything configurable about a device

gloomy pivot
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which probably got triggered just as often as the one that died ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ

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yeah, I get that now

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but had no idea even that they existed

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I'll just get my replacement and be stuck with 60s I guess

gloomy pivot
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can anyone recommend some motion/contact sensors that aren't $20+ a piece?

I've realized that the wyze sense ones I have are all going to go bad eventually, but they were like... <$10 a sensor? and to replace them all with something more reliable is looking like close to $250+

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my two most important sensors have already gone bad, which is really a pain

amber gull
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I got a bag of centralites off ebay for.... $4 a sensor?

gloomy pivot
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centralite... haven't heard of them but I'll see

amber gull
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Search for 3326

gloomy pivot
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lol don't see much on ebay, from a quick look ๐Ÿค”

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found them on Amazon, $20

amber gull
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Sage doorbell sensors are $4 too. If you could find a way to turn them into a contact sensor

gloomy pivot
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not looking into hardware hacking anything if that's what you mean

amber gull
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"lot of 10 zigbee" should be your favorite search term ๐Ÿ˜€

gloomy pivot
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haha good call

amber gull
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I got most of my aqara ones for $10 or less too

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Banggood / gearbest sales

gloomy pivot
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anybody tried the sonoff snzb-03 (contact) and snzb-04 (motion)?

amber gull
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Mixed reports ๐Ÿค•

gloomy pivot
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alrighty

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they have only one side of each sensor, and no batteries ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ

amber gull
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๐Ÿ˜‚

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The centralite motions have been great. Rock solid other then two hue LWB bulbs they didn't like

tender cosmos
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Hey Iโ€™ve asked this before however still unsure of right solution Iโ€™m using z2m and node red for automations but it seems zha and inbuilt automations is a lot simpler am I missing out on anything by switching over?

gentle fern
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zha is apparently easier, but I'll be trying out z2m as soon as I get my zzh! as my ikea bulbs just will not be seen by the sonoff bridge I've got

tender cosmos
fallow warren
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what u mean? blueprints?

tender cosmos
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The automation blueprints I can get one that uses zha to replace everything i manually made using node red and z2m