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violet dagger Jan 21, 2021, 12:38 AM

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what are you flashing with?

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 12:38 AM

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doing it on my windows computer

violet dagger Jan 21, 2021, 12:39 AM

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ok and..

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 12:39 AM

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raspberry pi? which do you mean?

violet dagger Jan 21, 2021, 12:40 AM

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sorry i cannot help you

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 12:41 AM

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what should i try flashing with?

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i have linux dual booted and can go to that

half mountain Jan 21, 2021, 12:42 AM

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ZHA and Zigbee2mqtt are mutually exclusive

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You have to pick one or the other

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Your z2m log seems to say that there's an issue with your usb zigbee adapter

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What adapter are you using?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Where are VS Code and Electron coming from?

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If you're using Windows then you would want to replace the /dev/ttyUSB* path with the appropriate COM* port

raven chasm Jan 21, 2021, 1:41 AM

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@half mountain I am using the HUBZ Nortech USB stick.

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 1:56 AM

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You can't use that with zigbee2mqtt

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_adapters.html

zigbee2mqtt.io

Supported adapters

📘 Zigbee2mqtt documentation

raven chasm Jan 21, 2021, 1:58 AM

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for real. So is there any way for me to bridge the gap between these two systems and have my information available on both?

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 1:59 AM

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No? You can't use that adapter with zigbee2mqtt. What are you ultimately trying to do?

raven chasm Jan 21, 2021, 2:02 AM

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I am trying to control devices that are on my system with the HUBZ stick with my windows pc running VB. I plan to move everything off in the future just not ready to do it yet.

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Oh I misunderstood what you said. You could install the remote HA custom integration on your other HA instance I suppose

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:03 AM

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You can also connect via websocket to the main HA instance

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:04 AM

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Yeah, that would involve removing ZHA on the existing system right?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:07 AM

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You can communicate with HA just like the web interface, though that may not be trivial

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https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/api/websocket/

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Oh nvm, I thought you meant setting up serial over TCP like the zbbridge

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:08 AM

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The now-mandatory authentication may make this a lot more involved

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Last I tried this was optional 😆

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Probably good for it to be required lol

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Wouldn't it just be a LLAT?

raven chasm Jan 21, 2021, 2:09 AM

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LLAT?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:09 AM

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LLAT?

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Long-lived access token

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Longboi access token

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:11 AM

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ACCESS_TOKEN_EXPIRATION = timedelta(minutes=30) but I'm not too sure what that really means

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Oof, 30 min? Wtf

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Maybe it's exchanged for something else

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Yeah, that doesn't match up what I experience with the web UI

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But that may use something else

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No, this looks more like oauth2

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With refresh and access tokens

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:12 AM

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I guess maybe it's different with a websocket. I made a program that runs in docker that just uses a LLAT

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But that just uses python-requests

raven chasm Jan 21, 2021, 2:13 AM

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remote homeassistant only needs to be on the secondary system correct?

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:13 AM

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On the system that you want data pulled into

amber gull Jan 21, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Yeah, look at remote ha or just do socat/ser2net

raven chasm Jan 21, 2021, 2:15 AM

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got it

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 2:21 AM

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trying to flash z2m, im getting this error while doing anything flashing now ERROR: Timeout waiting for ACK/NACK after 'Synch (0x55 0x55)'

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full error just trying to do the blink Opening port COM3, baud 500000 Reading data from blink.bin Cannot auto-detect firmware filetype: Assuming .bin Connecting to target... ERROR: Timeout waiting for ACK/NACK after 'Synch (0x55 0x55)'

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:26 AM

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That's the very first command that's sent to your device

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Are you sure COM3 is the correct port?

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And that you held down the tiny button while inserting the stick into your USB port?

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 2:36 AM

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okay i didnt see the button part of the doc

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i got that to work now

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@austere patio another dumb question probably considering i didnt see to hit the button... what is the file that i need to flash?

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or is the blink it?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:45 AM

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wintry horizon <@!652580495892152331> another dumb question probably considering i didnt see to...

The .hex file in https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/blob/master/coordinator/Z-Stack_3.x.0/bin/CC26X2R1_20201026.zip

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https://electrolama.com/projects/zig-a-zig-ah/#zigbee2mqtt

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The blink firmware literally just blinks the LED on and off

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 2:45 AM

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i figured that but just making sure lol

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:46 AM

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I'm not too sure why the sticks are shipped with the blink firmware

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Since 99.999% of all users will be using it with the Z-Stack firmware

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:46 AM

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Because blinkenlights

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:46 AM

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And the 0.001% that need to use alternate firmware probably can figure out how to flash it

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 2:48 AM

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😄

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i believe this is done then Opening port COM3, baud 500000 Reading data from CC26X2R1_20201026.hex Your firmware looks like an Intel Hex file Connecting to target... CC1350 PG2.0 (7x7mm): 352KB Flash, 20KB SRAM, CCFG.BL_CONFIG at 0x00057FD8 Primary IEEE Address: 00:12:4B:00:21:5F:FF:28 Performing mass erase Erasing all main bank flash sectors Erase done Writing 360448 bytes starting at address 0x00000000 Write 104 bytes at 0x00057F980 Write done Verifying by comparing CRC32 calculations. Verified (match: 0x0a0682b4)

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Yep

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Agreed though, puddly. Not sure what the line of thinking is

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Maybe because it's a "dev stick" and not used solely as a coordinator for Z2M

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Maybe regulatory stuff or something

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 3:00 AM

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Could be

gentle fern Jan 21, 2021, 8:03 AM

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Hi, is there some way to link a zha_event to a device in ZHA? Trying to create flows in node-red based on button pushes

chrome ocean Jan 21, 2021, 8:18 AM

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@gentle fern if you listen to the zha_event there should be the device id

gentle fern Jan 21, 2021, 8:18 AM

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Yeah, but the how to tie that to a device/room?

chrome ocean Jan 21, 2021, 8:20 AM

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there are two couple of options 1. (HARD MODE) create zigbee groups and tell the event to control those groups 2. (Pretty easy) create a node-red flow (can also be done in HA automation) and listen to zha_event. Add a switch node to split the events based on the device id and another switch node to split the input types Single/long/double

gentle fern Jan 21, 2021, 8:21 AM

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Yeah, I'm on the path to option 2 there. Was just wondering if there was any way of linking them on home assistant

chrome ocean Jan 21, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Not that I know of. As I said you could do that with the automation or I think also with the template option. The node-red option is by far the easiest and very powerful

chrome ocean Jan 21, 2021, 8:22 AM

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gentle fern Yeah, I'm on the path to option 2 there. Was just wondering if there was any way...

https://github.com/rangulvers/Homeautomation#zigbee-buttons-with-deconz-and-homeassistant

gentle fern Jan 21, 2021, 8:24 AM

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That's exactly the thing I had envisioned and am on the path to at the moment, ta

icy island Jan 21, 2021, 8:30 AM

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Hi all, Just looking at the zigbee network visualization tab, Can anyone advise or tell me where I can find what the colour coding is on the lines please? I have Green / Red / Yellow / Grey

sour shadow Jan 21, 2021, 8:38 AM

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I assume you're using zha then?

icy island Jan 21, 2021, 8:39 AM

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sour shadow I assume you're using `zha` then?

yes

sour shadow Jan 21, 2021, 8:40 AM

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This is a good thing to tell people, which is why it's mentioned in the channel topic 😉

icy island Jan 21, 2021, 8:41 AM

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ok

half mountain Jan 21, 2021, 10:40 AM

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raven chasm <@!230760523887542282> I am using the HUBZ Nortech USB stick.

It's like they told you, not supported by z2m. I don't use ZHA, so I'm afraid I don't have any relevant experience to help you know 😦

gentle fern Jan 21, 2021, 11:35 AM

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chrome ocean https://github.com/rangulvers/Homeautomation#zigbee-buttons-with-deconz-and-home...

In the end I've gone with injecting a map of devices, their type and what room they're in with the key as the device_ieee then doing a lookup, then a javascript function to determine what light service should be called for a certain button action

chrome ocean Jan 21, 2021, 11:52 AM

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gentle fern In the end I've gone with injecting a map of devices, their type and what room t...

Can you share the flow? Would be interesting to see

gentle fern Jan 21, 2021, 11:59 AM

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chrome ocean Can you share the flow? Would be interesting to see

Sure thing, https://controlc.com/9d2c0d6e

chrome ocean Jan 21, 2021, 12:13 PM

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@gentle fern also a nice solution. Maybe I'm missing something : where are you mapping the commands that you have in the switch case to the event IDs?

gentle fern Jan 21, 2021, 12:15 PM

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I'm not mapping event IDs right now, what would be the advantage of doing that?

fervent tiger Jan 21, 2021, 1:34 PM

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I just connected my first Zigbee bulb to my TP-Link Deco Wifi Mesh system. I have no idea how to start to implement it in HA.

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The only TP-Link integration I found was uPnP and this gives me some information about sent and received data, that's it...

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 2:38 PM

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im getting 502 bad gateway when installing the Zigbee2mqtt add on when going to the web UI for it. anyone have a guess as to what this could be. here is my config: https://pastebin.com/sUe9SJhC

near echo Jan 21, 2021, 2:41 PM

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means that the z2m is not stated properly. what does the log for Z2M say?

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 2:42 PM

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this is where the first error comes Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-21 09:42:35: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-21 09:42:35: Failed to start zigbee Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-21 09:42:35: Exiting... Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-21 09:42:35: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms) at ZStackAdapter.<anonymous> (/zigbee2mqtt-1.17.0/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:94:31) at Generator.throw (<anonymous>) at rejected (/zigbee2mqtt-1.17.0/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:25:65) npm ERR! code ELIFECYCLE npm ERR! errno 1 npm ERR! zigbee2mqtt@1.17.0 start: `node index.js` npm ERR! Exit status 1 npm ERR! npm ERR! Failed at the zigbee2mqtt@1.17.0 start script. npm ERR! This is probably not a problem with npm. There is likely additional logging output above.

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:47 PM

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What zigbee adapter are you using?

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 2:49 PM

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electrolama's CC2652

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i can try reflashing. im seeing on the github people had mixed results from that

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unless you think its something else

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:50 PM

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Nah, just making sure you're using a supported adapter. Someone who wasn't had the same error

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Suppose you could try a reflash. Device path is right, it just can't connect to it for whatever reason

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 2:53 PM

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would a reinstall of the addon be of any use? i'd assume not probably

near echo Jan 21, 2021, 2:53 PM

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does your /dev/tty* find that device?

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also do lsusb just to be sure

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:53 PM

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Worth a check, but it would complain about the file not existing

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 2:54 PM

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im on a rasp homeassistant os. how would i get to terminal to do this? havent fully figured it out yet tbh

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Somewhere in the supervisor menu

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In the UI

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 2:54 PM

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i found that from going to ZHA install (didnt actually install it) and got the port from that

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but ill check for that now

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i see. needed advanced mode to get terminal

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supervisor/terminal take a long time to load. not sure what happened now

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 3:22 PM

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near echo does your /dev/tty* find that device?

how do i do that?

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getting permission denied

near echo Jan 21, 2021, 3:22 PM

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ls /dev/tty*

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ah you are on HASS OS - then your terminal is quite restricted. you might want to check on the #330990055533576204 channel

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 3:24 PM

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ahh

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gotcha

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just out of curiosity. what do you use?

near echo Jan 21, 2021, 3:26 PM

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was using supervised earlier - shifted to docker install. need control of my OS

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 3:27 PM

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on a raspberry pi?

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not sure how but im getting this now Unable to load the panel source: /api/hassio/app/entrypoint.js. ill head over to the other channel LOL

near echo Jan 21, 2021, 3:43 PM

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wintry horizon on a raspberry pi?

yes. but have multiple. also have one with supervised (on a sd card) whenever I have to experiement an add-on - i run that

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 3:46 PM

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gotcha. i currently cant even start mine anymore.

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having fun 🙂

near echo Jan 21, 2021, 3:49 PM

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have taken backups of the entire card? if yes, just flash it back and start over. I generally take a monthly backup for entire sd card

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 3:52 PM

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i have not. i just installed it last night so didnt have much

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im using an ssd

near echo Jan 21, 2021, 3:58 PM

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then just reinstall HA - try docker or supervised this time 🙂

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go to approprite channel for the support

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 4:23 PM

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HA OS and HA Container (straight Docker) are both good...would not recommend Supervised

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 4:27 PM

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lilac wharf HA OS and HA Container (straight Docker) are both good...would not recommend Sup...

okay good to know. HA OS is what i was doing before technically then right?

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Yeah

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 4:34 PM

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okay i may just keep chugging along with the HA OS then for now and convert to docker later once i learn a bit more since it sounds more complicated

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thank you guys so much btw. great community here.

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 4:58 PM

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@lilac wharf i got my homeassistant up and running again and i just reflashed my CC2532 (could be wrong on the numbers but you get the point) probably dumb question but do i have to hold the button while putting it in the raspberry pi?

dense hull Jan 21, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Hey folks, can anyone help me for the following issue: all of a sudden I cannot pair any device with my Conbee II stick. Worked flawlessly until the past few days. There are errors in the Core logs. Link to errors: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/k6cH6P54p6/

Host Operating System Home Assistant OS 5.10
Version 2021.1.4
Supervisor Version 2021.01.5
Docker Version 19.03.13
Raspberry Pi 4, 4GB (rpi4-64) with hassio booting from SSD – fresh install
Conbee II stick updated to latest version; using the ZHA integration to connect sensors

End result: cannot pair any zigbee sensors – got several, from various vendors, none pairs. Any help, link, tips is greatly appreciated!

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 4:59 PM

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@wintry horizon no, that's only for flashing

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 4:59 PM

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lilac wharf <@183967876951179265> no, that's only for flashing

thanks was just making sure

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 5:23 PM

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dense hull Hey folks, can anyone help me for the following issue: all of a sudden I cannot ...

Joins are only permitted for 60 seconds so make sure you are still within that window

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 5:27 PM

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ive found where the devices are listed. do i know that AMA0 is the adaptor or should i have more here? ```serial:

/dev/ttyUSB0
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0
/dev/ttyAMA0```

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 5:28 PM

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I think /dev/ttyAMA0 is internal to the Pi and will stick around even if you unplug the USB stick

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/dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0 is just a symbolic link that points to /dev/ttyUSB0, they are the same thing

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I suggest you use /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0 in place of /dev/ttyUSB0 to make your config independent of port ordering, which can change

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 5:30 PM

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should that be my z2m adaptor then?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Yes, /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0 is the ZZH stick

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 5:31 PM

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there we go. ill give that a go then. thanks 🙂

dense hull Jan 21, 2021, 5:32 PM

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austere patio Joins are only permitted for 60 seconds so make sure you are still within that w...

It's not the first time I'm pairing devices. It's only today that I see that error in the logs and nothing happens when I'm starting the pairing sequence on sensors + search on ZHA integration

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 5:32 PM

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austere patio Yes, `/dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0` is the ZZH stick

thank you 🙂 that worked

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 5:32 PM

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dense hull It's not the first time I'm pairing devices. It's only today that I see that err...

That error is unrelated and nothing to worry about

dense hull Jan 21, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Okay! I'll try using your suggestion.

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Not sure why ZHA is trying to probe again though, that should only be happening when you first add the integration

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All that error is saying is that your serial port isn't controllable via the Texas Instruments radio library, which I would expect to be the case, since it's a ConBee

mighty river Jan 21, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Hi all. I have an error called 0000000000 when I use my conbee II dongle on RPI 4 SSD booted with an extension cable. Conbee does not work anymore. What's the issue ?

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It states unexpected bridge ID

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 5:37 PM

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What integration is this? deCONZ? ZHA? Z2M?

mighty river Jan 21, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Deconz.

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Never used it so someone else who uses deCONZ may be of more help

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 5:39 PM

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alright new error on Z2M: Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-21 12:32:08: Not connected to MQTT server! do i need the MQTT integration? this is my MQTT portion of Z2M mqtt: base_topic: zigbee2mqtt server: 'mqtt://core-mosquitto' user: my_user password: my_password

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 5:42 PM

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You need an MQTT broker set up and HA needs to be connected to it

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 5:50 PM

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lilac wharf You need an MQTT broker set up and HA needs to be connected to it

im trying to setup the one that i see in the addons but im not seeing the users section that it is referring to in the doc with advanced on

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 5:52 PM

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I don't have add-ons so unfortunately I can't help out with that

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 5:53 PM

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gotcha. ill head over to that channel and see if anyone can provide some assistance. thank you so much

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 6:36 PM

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lilac wharf I don't have add-ons so unfortunately I can't help out with that

alright so i got it all setup it appears everything is connected successfully! im just not seeing how to connect this bulb https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/E1F-N5E.html#exposes do i maybe need to get my device closer? it is in the same room currently maybe 7 feet away. it is not showing up in the Z2M UI even after doing a reset on it like it says in the instructions of flicking it 10 times getting it to flash

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 6:54 PM

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@wintry horizon is zigbee2mqtt in pairing mode?

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 6:58 PM

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as in: permit_join: true?

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Yeah, or by pressing the button in the UI

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If the add-on exposes the web UI like the standalone version that is

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 7:05 PM

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I’ll try changing it in the UI instead

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 7:07 PM

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permit_join: true should be fine. check the zigbee2mqtt log

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 7:14 PM

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i only see this after refreshing on the map thing Zigbee2MQTT:info 2021-01-21 14:13:20: Starting network scan (includeRoutes 'false') Zigbee2MQTT:info 2021-01-21 14:13:20: Network scan finished Zigbee2MQTT:info 2021-01-21 14:13:20: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/response/networkmap', payload '{"data":{"routes":false,"type":"raw","value":{"links":[],"nodes":[{"definition":null,"failed":[],"friendlyName":"Coordinator","ieeeAddr":"0x00124b00215fff28","lastSeen":null,"networkAddress":0,"type":"Coordinator"}]}},"status":"ok","transaction":"rgy8k-2"}'

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same thing in the UI one

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 7:33 PM

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what about when you enable pairing?

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 7:39 PM

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i guess it was just out of range or something... not sure how or why but its kind of pairing now. i am getting errors though. something is failing it says Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-21 14:35:41: Failed to execute LQI for '0xb0ce1814001683d5'

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im going to try restarts of everything and try again

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https://pastebin.com/XhZ194zK

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i guess just brute forcing it over and over again is the way 🤷‍♂️

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Shouldn't be. Is your USB adapter on an extension cable?

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 8:10 PM

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It is not. should it be then?

simple sentinel Jan 21, 2021, 8:17 PM

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It is good practice, yes

gentle fern Jan 21, 2021, 9:31 PM

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chrome ocean <@!796345683136479233> also a nice solution. Maybe I'm missing something : where...

If you're interested in what I've settled on then it's here https://controlc.com/6a705f87. What could I do with event IDs as you mentioned?

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 9:41 PM

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Anyone able to help me or point me in the right direction to get my Aqara devices set up? From my understanding they are Xioami and can be used with either the Xioami Hub integration or zigbee2mqtt. I have a zigbee hub, as well as the aqara hub.

I've attempted both and have failed. I can't/don't know how to install the zigbee2mqtt integration. I tried install the add-on via adding the custom repo link, but it said the repo wasn't up to date with HA v*.17 or something like that. Then I was able to get the hub paired to HA via Xioami Gateway integration, but i never seen any devices. I had the devices paired thru the Aqara app, and the Mi Home app for the Xioami integration. I have a motion sensor, and humidity sensor. All aqara from amazon

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Zigbee2MQTT, ZHA, and deCONZ all require some sort of coordinator hardware, like a USB stick

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Do you have any hardware other than the Aqara hub?

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 9:45 PM

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yep. I have a ZHA/Zigbee USB stick

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Which stick?

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 9:46 PM

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GoControl HUSBZB-1 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GJ826F8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Yeah that can't work with Zigbee2MQTT

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Only with the built-in ZHA component

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 9:47 PM

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well SOB lol

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can you point me to one that will work?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Work with Zigbee2MQTT or work as a coordinator with HA?

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That stick works fine with ZHA, which is built into HA

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If you specifically need to use Zigbee2MQTT, you'll have to get a Texas Instruments stick

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 9:48 PM

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Whatever is easiest to get the Aqara motion sensors/humidty sensors to work with HA. That's really all i'm trying to do

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If i gotta return the sensors and go a different route, i'm all ears.

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Easiest would be to just plug the stick in and add the Zigbee Home Automation component

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Would a CC2531 I added to help extend my network range show up in the z2m interface?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:49 PM

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If you're running a recent release of HA joining them should be quick. Otherwise it takes some practice.

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:49 PM

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bleak fern Would a CC2531 I added to help extend my network range show up in the z2m interf...

Did you join it to your network?

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 9:50 PM

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all my other zigbee devices auto join, but I am realizing the room i put this in to help with those devices are not so its probably not joined. I flashed it with the firmware (forgetting which one is which, but the one so its not the main controller? or router? cooridinator?) 😄

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 9:51 PM

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austere patio Easiest would be to just plug the stick in and add the Zigbee Home Automation co...

Okay, the Texas Instrument stick?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:51 PM

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@fringe fiber https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#configuration---gui

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 9:51 PM

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so that i already had

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since my main zigbee / mqtt whatever texas instrument is another cc

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let me see the code on it

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CC2538

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:51 PM

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Your CC2531 needs to join your network to act as a router

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 9:52 PM

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or wait maybe its LAUNCHXL-CC26X2R

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okay, what do I do to have it join?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:53 PM

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fringe fiber Okay, the Texas Instrument stick?

No, the GoControl HUSBZB-1. That stick is supported only by Home Assistant's "Zigbee Home Automation" integration.

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 9:54 PM

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The cc2531 isnt plugged into the server i have them around the house plugged into usb power outlets though?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:58 PM

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I assume this is the firmware: https://ptvo.info/cc2531-based-router-firmware-136/

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The lights should tell you its status (as well as Z2M's debug log)

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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ill try to re-pair on that guide i can't remember

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Long pressing SW2 should reset it and cause it to try joining your network

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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i was wondering if it would show up

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ok

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i changed my channel in the configs

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Look at the Z2M debug log to be sure

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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and when i changed back all my devices are still gone. I suck at this haha

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was trying to test if my channel was causing devices not to add

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:00 PM

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Z2M defaults to channel 11

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Unless you have some special device that only connects on channels 15, 20, and 25, 11 should work just fine

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 10:01 PM

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i went back to 11 but the devices i had are all gone

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:01 PM

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I'm not 100% sure how Z2M handles key generation since I don't really use it but does your config file have a network key?

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Or does it have network_key: GENERATE or something

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 10:03 PM

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yep it does. but yeah when i went back to 11 still none came back for some reason 🤔

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:04 PM

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You'll likely have to reboot your mains-powered devices or something

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Changing the channel without notifying them doesn't work very well

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 10:04 PM

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ok

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like reboot the server after i change it or something

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?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:05 PM

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No, every device that was on your network and is plugged into an outlet may need a reboot

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 10:05 PM

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oh okay

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Since you didn't change the channel, you sort of re-formed a new network with the same settings on a different channel

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 10:06 PM

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for static ones like light switches, do i just flip that breaker? and battery powered ones ?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:06 PM

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🤷‍♂️

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 10:06 PM

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oh weird

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actually now an error going back to 11

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Error: Coordinator failed to start, probably the panID is already in use, try a different panID or channel

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uh oh ha

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Shut off all your lights and routers

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Or put the coordinator under a metal pot or pan

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And then try it

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Your "old" network on channel 11 still exists and the coordinator is refusing to form a "new" one on that same channel because it thinks the old one is conflicting

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 10:07 PM

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ok

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Since the network exists independent of your coordinator stick

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 10:08 PM

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okay

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so metal pot change channel

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turn off anything that is powered or cut the power breaker maybe to that room in the case of a light switch?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:08 PM

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If you have an antenna unscrew it. Whatever you have to do to make sure the coordinator can't pick up any other devices using the old channel that you want to switch back to

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 10:09 PM

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ok

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:09 PM

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The Z2M documentation just says to increment the pan_id by 1 or something but that will "break" your network

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And will force you to re-join every single device

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 10:10 PM

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yeah okay sounds good ill go try that and shutdown my pc so i can cut power to this room since the light switch i added is here

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Any router that makes up your old network will cause the same error to occur

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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@austere patio how do you add a ZHA component into the ZHA integration? Do they auto discover, or do I need to enter them in manually in the configuration or something?

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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You mean add a new device?

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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yes

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Since you're trying to add Aqara stuff, make sure you're running the latest release of HA

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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yep, just updated

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Then they will join as easily as they do with the Aqara gateway

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#adding-devices

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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How do I trigger the paring sequence in HA

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oh nice

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I'll give this a go!. Thanks !

austere patio Jan 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Good luck

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Got it!. I swear I tried this yesterday and it didnt work..lol. Thanks again.

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 10:24 PM

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puddly has the magic touch

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🤏

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Do you know, can I pair the Aqara Hub to HA as well and control the lighting or speaker or anything? Or should I just return it? I don't see a need for it otherwise

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 10:24 PM

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im getting unsupported device for "supported devices" { zigbeeModel: ['E11-N1EA'], model: 'E11-N1EA', vendor: 'Sengled', description: 'Element plus color (A19)', extend: preset.light_onoff_brightness_colortemp_colorxy(), ota: ota.zigbeeOTA, },
https://gyazo.com/6e31f9d79dd2bd0c0f020ab4517f4cc1 any fixes?

obsidian sandalBOT Jan 21, 2021, 10:24 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/xiaomi_aqara/

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 10:25 PM

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@wintry horizon logs pls

fringe fiber Jan 21, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Perfect! I had seen that, but didn't think it was for this device.

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 10:26 PM

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lilac wharf <@183967876951179265> logs pls

https://pastebin.com/DFM7Zsi0

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 10:27 PM

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E21-N1EA

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Is not the same as E11-N1EA

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 10:28 PM

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AHH

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i didnt catch that

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 10:28 PM

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If it's the same device it could be as simple as just adding that to the zigbeeModel list

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 10:30 PM

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it should be essentially the same I would think

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so ill give it a shot

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 10:31 PM

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That'll be $5

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 10:31 PM

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😮

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🙂

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 10:31 PM

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😂

wintry horizon Jan 21, 2021, 10:31 PM

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thank you so much for all the help man though for real

lilac wharf Jan 21, 2021, 10:31 PM

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No problem at all

bleak fern Jan 21, 2021, 11:58 PM

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tried the pot over my device and changing the channel back to 11 when restarting zigbee2mqtt. Getting a different error now...

https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/36ZZshvY7Z/

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🤦‍♂️

wintry horizon Jan 22, 2021, 12:08 AM

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lilac wharf If it's the same device it could be as simple as just adding that to the `zigbee...

just got back home to try this. where would that list be? 😓

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im seeing that it is probably in devices.yaml which im not sure how to get to as an addon

dense wolf Jan 22, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Trying to get a notification when my mail comes. What would you use in your mailbox? Motion or contact sensor? Which one?

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 12:18 AM

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I tried a vibration sensor but it was too far from my house

bleak fern Jan 22, 2021, 12:36 AM

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I could never figure out which attribute on the vibration sensor to set changes for when trying to use that for my dryer finishing

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 1:40 AM

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I just use if action not ""

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everything

torpid cove Jan 22, 2021, 4:37 AM

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I updated a large portion of my HA including core/supervisor/zigbee2mqtt from a year ago.

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all my zigbee devices seem to be unresponsive now

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I can still see the deivce/entities

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also on new zigbee2mqtt page

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but switch doesn't switch. And contact sensor doesn't change state

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 5:04 AM

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@wintry horizon devices.js. You could docker exec into the container to edit it but it won't be persistent if you upgrade it

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This looked like text from that file: #zigbee-archived message

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 5:07 AM

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I think I have seen that when it didn't pair correctly

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I just removed it and paired it again

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 5:17 AM

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The device isn't in devices.js

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Model number is slightly different

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 5:25 AM

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oh, whoopsadiddle

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He is really quick to merge if you're able to make a PR

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https://zigbeealliance.org/zigbee_products/sengled-smart-led-3/

chrome ocean Jan 22, 2021, 6:28 AM

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gentle fern If you're interested in what I've settled on then it's here https://controlc.com...

Thx for sharing. If you can do it without the IDs that's great. I am just trying to understand how that works. Since for me the zha_events or deconz_event never showed "turn_off" like you are using the switch case. So I would use the IDs in the switch case

mighty river Jan 22, 2021, 7:13 AM

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Hi guys, sadly I'm back again with the same issue. One of my automations (PIR + light) delays. It happens when I leave home longer than an hour and come back, after that the first trigger, it doesn't happen again (maybe sleep mode?). So far I've tried moving my HA pi near the router to connect it through an ethernet cable, I added a 1m usb cable extension to my conbee II, and what's more weird, I have even tried replacing the PIR sensor (I thought it could be faulty hardware), and it still is happening. From my perspective I experience a 4-5 second delay, in the logs there's no delay between trigger and action.. What is weird is that it only happens with that automation (NR flow) and only the first time that I come back home.

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any help will be appreciated

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 7:27 AM

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chrome ocean Thx for sharing. If you can do it without the IDs that's great. I am just trying...

Ah, so it doesn't show 'turn_on' or 'turn_off' for me either, but it does show what the event command is so I'm switching based on that. e.g. holding the up button gives me 'move_with_on_off' and holding the down button is 'move', so they map to 'dimmer_up' and 'dimmer_down' respectively

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 7:29 AM

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chrome ocean Thx for sharing. If you can do it without the IDs that's great. I am just trying...

And pushing up on a tradfri dimmer gives me 'on' but on the control that's 'step_with_on_off', so both of those map to 'turn_on'

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 7:30 AM

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chrome ocean Thx for sharing. If you can do it without the IDs that's great. I am just trying...

I'm now implementing a double_press to lock the light on/off disabling motion sensor events

chrome ocean Jan 22, 2021, 9:18 AM

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gentle fern Ah, so it doesn't show 'turn_on' or 'turn_off' for me either, but it does show w...

Very interesting. I only recieve the event id like 1001, 1003, 1005 and have to react on those. I did the same with the double press to lock the motion sensor for my office

verbal shale Jan 22, 2021, 11:39 AM

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hi guys, i just confirme that module swtich works very well in zha xD

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TS011F

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https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A0GwPT

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I already did request the compatibility update

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in zha tasmota website

old egret Jan 22, 2021, 12:52 PM

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I've just setup my Zigbee Network using Zigbee2MQTT. Very works well and I'm impressed of how easy it is to pair devices. When I open the Map view I'm wondering why it looks like it is different networks? Screenshot here: https://imgur.com/a/W02pFSG

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I'm not having any errors or need help with it - I'm just wondering 🙂

sour shadow Jan 22, 2021, 12:53 PM

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Tick IsASibling

old egret Jan 22, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Ah yeah I see

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Some having some wierd routes, but maybe they find the best path with time?

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 1:15 PM

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Yeah, the network will reroute on its own as it sees fit

wintry horizon Jan 22, 2021, 1:19 PM

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lilac wharf This looked like text from that file: https://discord.com/channels/3309442389109...

That was text from the github. I’m on hassos raspberry pi can I still use that docker command?

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 1:20 PM

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I have no idea unfortunately, I don't run hassos

wintry horizon Jan 22, 2021, 1:24 PM

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No problem. Should I ask in the hass os section maybe?

brave zodiac Jan 22, 2021, 3:19 PM

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I moved some Zigbee devices from deCONZ to ZHA. I then removed them from deCONZ. But in the deivces list and deleted all deCONZ related Entities successfully. But under devices I have them now under both Integrations "deCONZ, Zigbee Home Automation". Can I remove the association with deCONZ completely somehow?

mellow geode Jan 22, 2021, 3:20 PM

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You should be able to just remove the deCONZ integration. Also, make sure that the deCONZ docker (if you're using that) is shut down and doesn't auto start.

brave zodiac Jan 22, 2021, 3:22 PM

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Well I still have lots of devices there at the moment, I am trying out ZHA currently...

mellow geode Jan 22, 2021, 3:31 PM

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Oh. That's not a recommended way.

orchid mural Jan 22, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Do anyone have experiance with osram smart+ https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Ledvance_4058075208339.html and know if they work in zha or deCONZ?

mellow geode Jan 22, 2021, 3:33 PM

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There are two versions of basically all OSRAM/LEDVANCE products.
If you're getting the LEDVANCE version, you might either get a Zigbee 3.0 controller with QR-Code or the older OSRAM Lightify controller.

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But they work.

golden vessel Jan 22, 2021, 3:34 PM

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orchid mural Do anyone have experiance with osram smart+ https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Ledvanc...

I have a Smart+ socket and bulbs and they work fine with ZHA

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be aware that they eat messages from motion sensors 😄

mellow geode Jan 22, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Although the new LEDVANCE Smart+ Plugs (which look exactly like the old LEDVANCE Smart+ plugs and basically like the OSRAM Smart+ plugs and the OSRAM Lightify plugs) should no longer "eat" any messages afaik.

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You only see if you're getting a Z3 model by taking it out of the box and looking for the QR-Code printed on the side of the plug.

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Smart+™️

golden vessel Jan 22, 2021, 3:40 PM

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mellow geode You only see if you're getting a Z3 model by taking it out of the box and lookin...

do you have the 3.0 ones? What is the stack_version attr in the Basic cluster? Mine all show "2".

mellow geode Jan 22, 2021, 3:40 PM

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I don't have 3.0 ones, I've only seen them in videos and in some logs files lol

mellow geode Jan 22, 2021, 3:41 PM

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golden vessel do you have the 3.0 ones? What is the stack_version attr in the Basic cluster? M...

zcl_version should show 3 though. (Edit: it shows 2)

golden vessel Jan 22, 2021, 3:41 PM

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mine shows 1

mellow geode Jan 22, 2021, 3:42 PM

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You have the OSRAM Smart+ Plugs (with no QR-Code), right?

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I think I still have some LEDVANCE Smart+ Flex 3P RGBW LED Strip (or whatever they're called) with a Z3 controller

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I can see what the values are there.

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 3:42 PM

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I think Dave and Ian might have those plugs

golden vessel Jan 22, 2021, 3:44 PM

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I don't know if it has a QR code (can't check it now)

mellow geode Jan 22, 2021, 3:44 PM

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"LEDVANCE FLEX RGBW Z3" has zcl_version=2 and stack_version=2

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And apparently the LQIs that are reported range from 252 to 255 (which is not at all accurate)

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The bug is fixed with newer firmware on other Smart+ Z3 devices.

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Here's an article about all LEDVANCE lights which might be Z3: https://tt-smarthome.resource.bosch.com/nrt/web/produkt/partnerlights/2020_07_Smart_light_compatible_devices_DE_de.pdf

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The plugs, however, are not mentioned there

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Does anyone know what the difference between ZHA BinarySensor and ZHA IAS BinarySensor is and why one emits a zha_event and the other doesnt?

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 3:47 PM

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they should both emit events, typically

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IAS devices to be enrolled and have the CIE correctly set

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sometimes that handshake/enroll can fail

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 3:48 PM

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Yeah, that's what I thought. But I've got Tradfri motion sensors that do and sonoff ones that (I think) are IAS and don't

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 3:49 PM

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Can you check the IAS enrolled state of the sonoff sensor? Config > Integrations > ZHA > Devices -> sonoff > Manage clusters (IAS cluster, ias enrolled attribute, read attribute)

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and/or wake the device and try a "reconfigure device"

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 3:51 PM

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So Clusters dropdown has nothing selected, same for Device Binding, same for Group Binding

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 3:53 PM

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https://imgur.com/u5tmkMA

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 3:56 PM

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'GET ZIGBEE ATTRIBUTE' gives me nothing

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Might have to wake the sensor

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Yeah, I tried that

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Probably time to enable debug logging then and see what pops out when you actuate it

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 3:57 PM

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How much of an interval between clicking the 'GET' and waking the sensor should I be aiming for?

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 3:57 PM

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less then a second? depends on the device

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#debug-logging

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You can do those levels via service call too if you don't want to restart HA

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 3:58 PM

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oh that's a good idea

wintry horizon Jan 22, 2021, 4:00 PM

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has anyone on homeassistant OS added an "unsupported device" to Z2M?

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:00 PM

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Click and run time...

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:02 PM

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@lilac wharf does this all the time 😀

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 4:02 PM

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Heh, not with the add-on though unfortunately

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:05 PM

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amber gull Probably time to enable debug logging then and see what pops out when you actuat...

https://controlc.com/27bca4ba There's 1 zigpy.exceptions.DeliveryError

tropic depot Jan 22, 2021, 4:06 PM

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amber gull I think Dave and Ian might have those plugs

the ones I have show up as LEDVANCE PLUG and they report ZCL version 1

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stack version 2

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date code: Jan 11 2018

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:08 PM

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0xee3c is the NWK address of the sonoff sensor?

tropic depot Jan 22, 2021, 4:08 PM

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I have 5 of them... they don't seem to cause any issues that I can tell

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Yeah, it is. Oddly the device does update the binary sensor, but doesn't send events

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Just reading through the docs, and it seems to indicate that I could actually pair my tradfri bulbs using one of the remotes. Is that right? Calling zha.permit with ieee

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Looking through the log, just delivery errors to the NWK -- maybe also capture the binary sensor updating successfully along with homeassistant.core? That would be interesting to see

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Yes, you can direct bind a bulb to a remote

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That will allow the remote to work even if HA or the coordinator is offline

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Ah, what I actually mean is that I can use the remote to initially pair the bulb with ZHA, right? I'm having issues getting a bulb to pair with my hub

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:17 PM

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I don't believe so -- I would assume the ieee paramter for the permit is to only open permits on selected routers

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For the bulbs, they can be a bit tricky to pair sometimes -- I have the best luck doing a reset (6 quick offs starting from on) while ZHA add/permit is running

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fairly staccato rhythm, just on long enough to briefly flash (200ms or so) and off for the same amount of time

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Yeah, that's what I've been trying

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:24 PM

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I have the best luck with the bulb halfway screwed in, so I can just pull the bulb out to disconnect power

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:24 PM

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The doc does say 'allow new devices to join via an existing device'

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:24 PM

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yes, but a mains powered router

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Hmm. Maybe the mains power is screwing me

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I'll try with mains power and higher wattage power supply

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:34 PM

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amber gull Looking through the log, just delivery errors to the NWK -- maybe also capture t...

oh it's just got ZoneStatus.Alarm_1 for the value of ZoneStatus.Enrolled

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What does that mean?

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Still no events

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log with core on debug: https://controlc.com/f3166f02

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Well it means first of all it's talking 😆

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:40 PM

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It's definitely doing that. It's turning my lights on 😄

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:41 PM

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2021-01-22 16:32:40 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0xEE3C:1:0x0500]: Updated alarm state: ZoneStatus.Alarm_1[0m
2021-01-22 16:32:40 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Bus:Handling <Event state_changed[L]: entity_id=binary_sensor.kitchen_motion_sensor, old_state=<state binary_sensor.kitchen_motion_sensor=off; friendly_name=Kitchen Motion Sensor, device_class=motion @ 2021-01-22T16:23:21.663869+00:00>, new_state=<state binary_sensor.kitchen_motion_sensor=on; friendly_name=Kitchen Motion Sensor, device_class=motion @ 2021-01-22T16:32:40.250456+00:00>>[0m

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Oh motion, sorry -- yes, you will not have events for these as they have a state

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:42 PM

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But the Tradfri ones do, it would seem

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Yes, they might -- I'd have to go look at their quirk -- some of the Tradfri ones are a bit funky

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Hi, I have a question for my osram/lesvance smart+ zigbee plugs, I integrated them via ZHA on my rpi4 with a CC2531 stick and I can switch them on and off without a problem. But if I use the on/off switch on the plug itself, HA doesn't get notified about the new state, so automations etc. won't work. Is there something I can do about that or is that just by design?

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:44 PM

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If they support attribute reporting, ZHA will get notified of a manual change -- try doing a "reconfigure device" for one from the ZHA device page

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 4:46 PM

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hmm i clicked on reconfigure, waited a few moments and tried again, so it seems the plugs just don't support that? What a shame...

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Yeah, that's a bummer -- you can verify via debug logs if needed -- might ask if anyone else has attribute reporting working, dave, julian and abmantis were just talking about them

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Maybe it's an excuse to add a more handy zigbee button somewhere to toggle state

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:51 PM

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amber gull fairly staccato rhythm, just on long enough to briefly flash (200ms or so) and o...

Do you think having a Tradfri hub could be interfering with the bulb pairing with ZHA? I can't see anything in the logs that would indicate that ZHA even sees the bulb

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 4:52 PM

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I don't know, never used the tradfri for any length of time -- not sure if it is always open for joins or not?

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I know I've had a handful of IKEA bulbs I have had to reset at least 10 times for some reason before they were happy to join

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Considering almost all of mine are spotlights and not controlled individually that would be.....frustrating

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One comes in, two go out. three come in, 1 goes out

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I can see that being a never-ending cycle of fun, especially the part where I have to explain what I'm doing and why I'm doing it to my wife

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 4:55 PM

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You may have more luck not permitting joins until all of the bulbs in a fixture are off your network

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So if you cut power for 2s and then turn them all back on, they should all slightly dim in 5s or otherwise indicate that they're in joining mode

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Otherwise you may run into the issue of one light out of three failing to enter joining mode so you have to reset all of the ones connected to it

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:56 PM

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At the moment I'm failing to get even a single lamp bulb to pair, and I can flick that on and off at will

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Cut power completely for 10s and then try from that state

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I believe with IKEA bulbs are pretty good with the reset so just flip the position of the switch once every half a second like 10-15 times and then leave it on for 10s

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Yeah, I'm happily getting it reset, and it's merrily pulsing away. It just never pairs no matter how close I hold the zbbridge

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 4:59 PM

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amber gull Yeah, that's a bummer -- you can verify via debug logs if needed -- might ask if...

when i turn the plug off manually, nothing is shown in the log, when I tunr it on: 2021-01-22 17:56:48 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] ZDO device relays: ZDO.SrcRtgInd.Callback(DstAddr=0xE2EC, Relays=[]) but neither state is updated in HA

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 4:59 PM

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coarse orchid when i turn the plug off manually, nothing is shown in the log, when I tunr it o...

That means that something is being received

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Can you enable debug logging and see what the preceding five seconds show?

oblique root Jan 22, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Hello everyone! New here so pls. don’t shoot if I missed something. I have a weird issue where all of the sudden (a few weeks ago), all my zigbee devices stopped reporting the real battery status. Everything else works fine. Right now, all of them report 100% although I know for certain, almost all of them were below 90%. Hs anyone else encountered something like this? I am running the latest version and since it happened, 08.01.2021, a few updates have been released... any idea would be greatly appreciated!

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:00 PM

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gentle fern Yeah, I'm happily getting it reset, and it's merrily pulsing away. It just never...

Distance usually isn't that much of a factor and it would be best to join them in-place

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Try refreshing the joining page with the spinner right before your bulbs enter joining mode

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I think they also stay in joining mode until they join a network so just shut them off for 10s and then turn them back on, they should start again if they never joined

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 5:00 PM

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austere patio Try refreshing the joining page with the spinner right before your bulbs enter j...

Currently I'm using zha.permit calls

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Hmm, that rules out the 60s timeout thing

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Yeah, set it to 254

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Maybe try 253?? I think 0xFE is the max in Zigbee 3.0 but you never know

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What's the exact data that you're sending with the permit call?

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Just duration: 254. I tried 600 but told me no

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Hmm, that should work then

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:03 PM

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oblique root Hello everyone! New here so pls. don’t shoot if I missed something. I have a wei...

What devices?

sour shadow Jan 22, 2021, 5:03 PM

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And which integration 😉

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Aqara?

oblique root Jan 22, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Xiaomi Mi window sensors and a eurotronic spzb0001 thermostat. I have a conbee ll usb connected to a rpi4.

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 5:06 PM

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austere patio That means that something is being received

21-01-22 18:05:07 DEBUG (Thread-6) [paho.mqtt.client] Connection failed, retrying
2021-01-22 18:05:13 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.uart] Received data: b'\xFE\x03\x45\xC4\xEC\xE2\x00\x8C'
2021-01-22 18:05:13 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.uart] Parsed frame: TransportFrame(payload=GeneralFrame(header=CommandHeader(id=0xC4, subsystem=Subsystem.ZDO, type=CommandType.AREQ), data=b'\xEC\xE2\x00'))
2021-01-22 18:05:13 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.api] Received command: ZDO.SrcRtgInd.Callback(DstAddr=0xE2EC, Relays=[])
2021-01-22 18:05:13 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] ZDO device relays: ZDO.SrcRtgInd.Callback(DstAddr=0xE2EC, Relays=[])

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:06 PM

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coarse orchid 21-01-22 18:05:07 DEBUG (Thread-6) [paho.mqtt.client] Connection failed, retryin...

Nothing else before then?

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:06 PM

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oblique root Xiaomi Mi window sensors and a eurotronic spzb0001 thermostat. I have a conbee l...

With what? ZHA? deCONZ? Zigbee2MQTT?

oblique root Jan 22, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Sorry. Missed that one. ZHA

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 5:07 PM

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austere patio Hmm, that should work then

Yeah, nothing in the debug logs at all. Just the send/receive of readCounters

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 5:07 PM

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austere patio With what? ZHA? deCONZ? Zigbee2MQTT?

2021-01-22 18:05:02 DEBUG (MainThread) [websockets.protocol] client > Frame(fin=True, opcode=9, data=b'[x]\xcd', rsv1=False, rsv2=False, rsv3=False)
2021-01-22 18:05:02 DEBUG (MainThread) [websockets.protocol] client - event = data_received(<6 bytes>)
2021-01-22 18:05:02 DEBUG (MainThread) [websockets.protocol] client < Frame(fin=True, opcode=10, data=b'[x]\xcd', rsv1=False, rsv2=False, rsv3=False)
2021-01-22 18:05:02 DEBUG (MainThread) [websockets.protocol] client - received solicited pong: 5b785dcd
was before that but that doesn't seem important

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Hmm, I guess not

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 5:08 PM

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oblique root Hello everyone! New here so pls. don’t shoot if I missed something. I have a wei...

I have the samebehaviour with my window sensors from xiaomi

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Does the source routing indication message pop up every time your device is turned on and off?

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Or just that one time?

oblique root Jan 22, 2021, 5:09 PM

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coarse orchid I have the samebehaviour with my window sensors from xiaomi

At least i’m mot the only one...

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Could be https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/720

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Though Xiaomi sensors don't report usable battery voltages/percentages anyways so it's not like you're losing much

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Yeah, pretty sure both of you are seeing the same bug, which has been already been fixed

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 5:11 PM

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austere patio Does the source routing indication message pop up *every* time your device is tu...

Seems random, sometimes it does, sometimes it doessn't hmm...

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Like my leedarson remotes that report 180% battery?

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:11 PM

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In that case it's not relevant

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 5:11 PM

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https://c.tenor.com/DQR4RgHlsS8AAAAM/he-man-i-have-the-power.gif

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 5:12 PM

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lilac wharf Like my leedarson remotes that report 180% battery?

Careful, have you not seen Knight and Day?

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Well, seems like I have to live with that then, unfortunatly I already got 8 plugs, but at least they were pretty cheep and it's not a complete deal breaker... Thanks for the help puddly and Walt_H !

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:14 PM

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If you want to waste more time on it, try out a sniffer or something and see what the device sends

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Though the CC2531 doesn't care about group membership and stuff like that and is generally pretty chatty so I doubt you'll see anything interesting

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Yeah was thinking about upgrading to a CC2652 from slaesh anyways, maybe that one has some more data on it, the CC2531 was my first attempt for just messing around with Home Assistant, but now I can't stop buying new things to integrate ha ha 😄

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:18 PM

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I don't think you'll see any new traffic with the CC2652RB

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But it won't be a bad upgrade performance-wise

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 5:19 PM

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alright good to know

austere patio Jan 22, 2021, 5:19 PM

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And you can turn your CC2531 into a sniffer to see all the traffic

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 5:22 PM

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ok, ikea hub unplugged. Time to try pairing a bulb again

coarse orchid Jan 22, 2021, 5:24 PM

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alright, thanks for the infos, I will come back to that topic when I have upgraded, have a great evening (at least here it's evening) puddly

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 5:28 PM

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It's pretty obvious from the debug logs when a device it joining, isn't it

oblique root Jan 22, 2021, 5:30 PM

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austere patio Though Xiaomi sensors don't report usable battery voltages/percentages anyways s...

Thanks. It seams to match my problem.

gentle fern Jan 22, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Unplugging ikea hjub and then trying to pair bulbs did not work 😦

wintry horizon Jan 22, 2021, 6:04 PM

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im following https://github.com/danielwelch/hassio-zigbee2mqtt#adding-support-for-new-devices for adding a device (with one number off for the model number. just a bulb) and im getting a bunch of errors when zigbee_shepherd_devices: true is at the very end of my Config in the Z2M config. The errors seem to be pertaining to not be able to find the libraries. Would i be able to just get the libraries from the github and put the folders in here possibly? https://pastebin.com/niziRcbN

tired cedar Jan 22, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Hi there. I'm having an issue where activating a scene turns on everything, except for one device, which is a zigbee relay

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the relay will reliably work if the switch in the UI is used, but will only occasionally work when the scene it's part of is activated

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:02 PM

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so I have two aqara door/window sensors outside on my gates. they keep losing connectivity. i can usually reconnect them manually. any idea why they keep dropping? not sure if i need to have more devices over there for a better connection or what. how would i go about diagnosing this

sour shadow Jan 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

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I'd check the lqi - 99% likely they're not well connected to the mesh

frail shell Jan 22, 2021, 7:08 PM

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hi everyone, i'm going to buy an USB stick in stead of the Xiaomi hub, i wonder about a 'famous' / stable one , with which one do you have good experience

obsidian sandalBOT Jan 22, 2021, 7:09 PM

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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are support. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah! and Slaesh's sticks being recommended. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

sour shadow Jan 22, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Start there ☝️

frail shell Jan 22, 2021, 7:09 PM

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excellent Ty!

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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sour shadow I'd check the `lqi` - 99% likely they're not well connected to the mesh

should I just google what is lqi is

frail shell Jan 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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which of the 3 would you get Tinkerer 🙂

sour shadow Jan 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

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It'll be an attribute 😉

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I use Zigbee2MQTT with the Zig-A-Zig-Ah!

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I like having it not part of HA

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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oh i see

sour shadow Jan 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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crisp crag should I just google what is lqi is

LQI - Link Quality Indicator - a measure of the quality of the link (surprise)

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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lqi is 143

sour shadow Jan 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Which is good

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0 is bad, 254 is good, 255 is often shrug

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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but it still says unavailable

frail shell Jan 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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gonna get the same one @sour shadow ! 🙂

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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RSSI is -93

sour shadow Jan 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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See https://community.hubitat.com/t/xiaomi-aqara-devices-pairing-keeping-them-connected/623

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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thx

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

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I don't think I've ever seen LQI above 170 and that's like 2 feet from the coordinator lol

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

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hmm, so i dont have any repeaters

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and a lot of devices

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Routers are important

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Especially the larger your network is

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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also, i bought some of the ikea tradfari ones but didn't realize i had to have the hub 😦

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so back to ikea i go

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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You don't

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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"route me, papi" - end device

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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You can use trådfri devices with ZHA/zigbee2mqtt/that other one

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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I use ikea repeaters fine. all of that hub shit is on every zigbee device and it is 90 percent a lie

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terdiore, calm down with that "a" bud

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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so i'm guessing i probably need to get a repeater

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since all my other zigbee devices are battery powered

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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you have ikea ones

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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(based on my reading of this link)

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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åååååååååååååååå

tired cedar Jan 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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@strange ibex To be fair "requires hub" isn't really aimed at people like us. It's aimed at people who are at IKEA, and just picking up a bulb. More accurate would be "requires zigbee controller"

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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nah, it's a lie

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Yeah, but some OEMs say "REQUIRES $MANUFACTURER HUB"

tired cedar Jan 22, 2021, 7:15 PM

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@crisp crag Do you have trådfri repeaters?

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:15 PM

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no i dont

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:15 PM

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I thought you said you did?

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 7:15 PM

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What trådfri devices do you have?

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:16 PM

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no no, so i bought the button and then

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jfc they just call ieverything tradfri

tired cedar Jan 22, 2021, 7:16 PM

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lilac wharf Yeah, but some OEMs say "REQUIRES `$MANUFACTURER` HUB"

Yeah that's a small lie. I think it's done to reduce confusion.... and not advertise competitors 😛

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Trådfri is to Ikea as Sonoff is to Itead

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:17 PM

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i bought the led power supply class 2 power unit but then it doesn't have a freaking power cable so i have to go back

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i just picked up random things and bought them

tired cedar Jan 22, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Trådfri literally translates to wireless 🙂

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:17 PM

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haha, ok.

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so i bought two tradfris

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one round, one square. 😛

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:17 PM

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what

tired cedar Jan 22, 2021, 7:17 PM

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hehe

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:18 PM

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strange ibex what

exactly

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Can you explain the devices purpose?

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wireless what

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button

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:18 PM

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one if a button, that allows you to choose scenes and changes lights. the other is the power strip looking thing but i dont have a power cable for it apparently that is separate

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i'm just gonna take my happy ass back to ikea and buy more useless shit

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:18 PM

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I wish I could go to IKEA

tired cedar Jan 22, 2021, 7:19 PM

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any permanently wired item will act as a router (so bulbs or the socket if you need that) if you don't need any of those, then they have a USB power-supply that also acts as a zigbee repeater

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:19 PM

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when are those aqara t1 sensors coming out. I want 'em

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:19 PM

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ok thats what i need to get then it sounds like

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:19 PM

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strange ibex when are those aqara t1 sensors coming out. I want 'em

oooh sounds fancy i'll look these up

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:20 PM

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they aren't IKEA

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:20 PM

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sounds like t1 is out?

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 7:20 PM

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tired cedar any permanently wired item will act as a router (so bulbs or the socket if you n...

Not quite any, but most. Sengled bulbs and most no-neutral switches don't act as routers

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:21 PM

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A few T1's came through on ali and instantly sold out

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not exactly out

tired cedar Jan 22, 2021, 7:21 PM

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lilac wharf Not quite any, but most. Sengled bulbs and most no-neutral switches don't act as...

Ah my bad. Good to know! 🙂

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 7:22 PM

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ok, to ikea i go

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 7:22 PM

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get some of their smart plugs and their repeaters

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MESH

mint lantern Jan 22, 2021, 7:25 PM

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can anyone help me with my case? I have documented it here

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zigbee2mqtt-group-lights-and-home-assistant/271656

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Acquired

echo belfry Jan 22, 2021, 8:30 PM

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So, I went through the process of starting my HA from scratch and have a Conbee 2 stick running ZHA with about 37 devices currently. I went to my Core logs and ZHA is really chatty. I mean a couple hundred entries a minute

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is this normal?

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 8:39 PM

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nothing to see here kid

/opt/homeassistant$ egrep zigpy\|zha home-assistant.log | cut -d " " -f 2 | sed -e 's/\(..\:..\:\).*/\1/' | sort | uniq -c | tail -n10
    225 14:29:
    286 14:30:
    385 14:31:
    262 14:32:
    202 14:33:
    339 14:34:
    398 14:35:
    181 14:36:
    258 14:37:

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😆 Yes, normal

graceful elm Jan 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

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It will kill an sd card in short order

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 8:42 PM

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This is without debug on 125 node network

/opt/homeassistant$ egrep zigpy\|zha home-assistant.log | grep -v DEBUG | cut -d " " -f 2 | sed -e 's/\(..\:..\:\).*/\1/' | sort | uniq -c | tail -n10
     15 14:33:
     30 14:34:
     32 14:35:
     17 14:36:
     22 14:37:
     11 14:38:
     25 14:39:
     22 14:40:
     30 14:41:
     17 14:42:

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 8:42 PM

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That is a fscking wild command

sour shadow Jan 22, 2021, 8:42 PM

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RooOnFire

strange ibex Jan 22, 2021, 8:43 PM

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moist

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 8:43 PM

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https://c.tenor.com/zqlAr2GYUP8AAAAM/moist-lips.gif

tropic depot Jan 22, 2021, 8:52 PM

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j.... f...... c.....

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lol

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 8:52 PM

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😂

tropic depot Jan 22, 2021, 8:53 PM

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walt what is that command doing

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 8:54 PM

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it's just counts number of log lines per minute

tropic depot Jan 22, 2021, 8:54 PM

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ah

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yeah lots of logs

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 8:54 PM

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OP using Deconz which is diff animal

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Bellows has counters too, I'm running ZNP which just hid all of its logging

tropic depot Jan 22, 2021, 8:55 PM

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did puddly do that on purpose?

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or did the firmware hide stuff

amber gull Jan 22, 2021, 8:56 PM

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Yeah on purpose.

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(can be re-enabled by adding zigpy_znp.logger: DEBUG to config, since HA doesn't support custom log levels)

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(latest dev)

echo belfry Jan 22, 2021, 9:08 PM

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amber gull nothing to see here kid ``` /opt/homeassistant$ egrep zigpy\|zha home-assistant...

Would this be contributing to the daily rise in Core RAM usage?

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I have about a 3%/day elevation in Core Ram usage

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 9:14 PM

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ok i got my ikea shit

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i may have gone overboard

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 9:15 PM

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nonsense

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 9:16 PM

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two repeaters, a gateway, two wireless control outlets

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 9:16 PM

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gateway?? whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 9:17 PM

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thought i needed it, although someone said i didn't

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right now i'm running everything off a nortek stick.

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 9:17 PM

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that would be me and multiple others 😂

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 9:17 PM

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I mean, I can take it back. I just figured it would add redundancy?

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 9:17 PM

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redundancy?

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 9:18 PM

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my only question is: will it hurt? if not, then i'll add it

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for the mesh

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 9:18 PM

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i'm not following

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 9:18 PM

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its a zigbee hub yes?

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so right now i'm running everything off of the nortek stick, so would the gateway act as another hub to increase the size of my network

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 9:18 PM

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nope

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 9:18 PM

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fuck

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welp. i'll return it

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i had some issues, trying to get the button connected to HA so i figured getting the gateway would make it easier

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i didn't spend a ton of time trying to do it

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i was following this https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/tradfri/

dry fossil Jan 22, 2021, 9:21 PM

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To use one of Tinkerer's analogies... that would be like having two people driving the same car.

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The coordinator is the driver 😉

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 9:22 PM

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they did that during drivers training class

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 9:22 PM

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lol

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 9:22 PM

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i remember disctinctly because i kept getting yelled at

lilac wharf Jan 22, 2021, 9:22 PM

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NotLikeThis1000

crisp crag Jan 22, 2021, 9:22 PM

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ok so gateway back in the box to get returned

wintry horizon Jan 22, 2021, 9:40 PM

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im trying to change the Device Specific Configuration. I'm reading the doc on Z2M's website but im not completely getting it. I'm wanting the "normal" on my lights to be a bit different. everytime i try and make a scene it sets them to this very dim light color etc. im reading here https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/E1F-N5E.html that i need to do that "hue correction" part but im not sure where to put that exactly. does anyone have an example? would it just be something like adding this in? devices: friendly_name: device_options:

prisma berry Jan 22, 2021, 10:01 PM

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How do I install a specific zha quirk on a HA-container install?

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I ask because I want to use this branch for the wyze lock: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/blob/dm/wyze-lock/zhaquirks/wyze/lock.py

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but the branch is super out of date

molten linden Jan 22, 2021, 10:30 PM

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The readme for quirks has details on how to add a quirk in development. There is also a forum thread where instructions for using that quirk are detailed. As it needs modification as every lock sends different data.

prisma berry Jan 22, 2021, 10:37 PM

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yeah I get that part

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just trying to figure out how to use Just That One Quirk

molten linden Jan 22, 2021, 10:49 PM

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https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers

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Scroll down to testing quirks in development

prisma berry Jan 22, 2021, 10:51 PM

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ah so just copy it in there and remove the cache?

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that's what I thought and tried -- but I think I forgot to remake my docker container, just moved from awful docker run commands to docker-compose

molten linden Jan 22, 2021, 10:54 PM

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it has to persist in the contianer. with Supervised installs this works until you update to a new version. then you have to re copy it over.

prisma berry Jan 22, 2021, 11:08 PM

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got it all working, used a volume to just mount the wyze folder

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thanks for the help!

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 3:11 AM

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I'm trying to use the forums to set Philips Hue's power-on settings using zigbee cluster settings, but I'm a noob. I see the specified clusters on the ZHA integration, but they don't seem to remembering that they were powered off before. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/accessing-philips-hue-bulb-sensor-configuration-with-zha-integration/209638/4?u=sgobat

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 4:03 AM

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@hollow forum Any luck? Looks like you need to start by setting PowerOn OnOff to 0xFF?

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 4:27 AM

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Dev Tools => Services => zha.set_zigbee_cluster_attribute

ieee: 'YOURIEEE'
endpoint_id: 11
cluster_id: 6
cluster_type: in
attribute: 16387
value: 255

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and

ieee: 'YOURIEEE'
endpoint_id: 11
cluster_id: 8
cluster_type: in
attribute: 16384
value: 255

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 4:31 AM

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Thanks! I'll give that a try. I've been trying to use the UI (since I'm super new to zha) so maybe that's my issue?

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 4:32 AM

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Then there are two more for color if you have color bulbs

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ieee: 'YOURIEEE'
endpoint_id: 11
cluster_id: 768
cluster_type: in
attribute: 16400
value: 65536

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and

ieee: 'YOURIEEE'
endpoint_id: 11
cluster_id: 768
cluster_type: in
attribute: 3
value: 65536

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If it works, please reply the forum thread to help the other guys 😁

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 4:37 AM

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Will do! I'll have to test it tomorrow, thanks! Seeing it on this format helps me understand it better, too! Would be nice to not have all lights stay on after a power flicker!

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Would I have to do this for every bulb?

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 4:38 AM

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Yes

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 4:38 AM

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Ok! 👍

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 4:39 AM

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Probably test it on one and get the process down

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You won't get any feedback from the user interface, but if you enable debug logging you will see if it was successfully able to write the attributes

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Tried it on a LWA007 (first two attribs only) no luck 😬

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Successfull attribute write too

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 4:49 AM

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I did manage to get it to save color when I tried yesterday, but I care more about brightness and on/off state lol. We'll see!

gentle fern Jan 23, 2021, 7:45 AM

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Anyone else had trouble with tradfri devices just dropping out? A few of my switches keep disconnecting

obsidian path Jan 23, 2021, 8:41 AM

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Why are my Philips Hue ambiance GU10 w/BT LTG002 ZHA devices in my deCONZ mesh, while my older spots LTW013 are ZLL devices?
My ned Smart Plug LOM001 is also ZHA.

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 9:05 AM

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After getting annoyed that my zigbee network would blow up every time I restarted homeassistant, I replaced ZHA with zigbee2mqtt. Everything seems to be working okay, with the exception of my thermostats. Those seem to fail to update 9 times out of 10. Has anyone else run into this? Any suggestions?

tawdry raft Jan 23, 2021, 9:42 AM

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How are zha and deconz related? I thought they were independent solutions.

dry fossil Jan 23, 2021, 9:51 AM

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tawdry raft How are zha and deconz related? I thought they were independent solutions.

They are independent.

dry fossil Jan 23, 2021, 9:52 AM

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old kernel After getting annoyed that my zigbee network would blow up every time I restarte...

My Hive Active Heating thermostat is fine, never drops off. If I look at the temperature history, it's obvious I'm getting regular reports.

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You should mention which device you're using. Also, see what's in the logs around the time it's not updating.

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 12:46 PM

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Zen thermostat, using a conbee2.
Publish 'set' 'occupied_heating_setpoint' to 'Main House Heat' failed: 'Error: Write 0x00244600000e6969/1 hvacThermostat({"occupiedHeatingSetpoint":1700}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null}) failed (no response received)'

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I have a feeling it has to do with how zigbee2mqtt handles battery powered devices that sleep. I think (though I'm guessing) that if I added hardwired power to these so they didn't go to sleep, they would probably not have this problem.

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just frustrating that ZHA and smartthings can handle it just fine

hollow token Jan 23, 2021, 12:57 PM

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hey ho

verbal shale Jan 23, 2021, 1:05 PM

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does anyone know how to pair philips hue go with zha?

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 1:12 PM

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obsidian path Why are my Philips Hue ambiance GU10 w/BT LTG002 ZHA devices in my deCONZ mesh, ...

The newer "Zigbee 3.0" bulbs by Signify (Philips Hue) have a QR-code on them and they also support proper attribute reporting.
It's mostly the models that also have Bluetooth. So basically, newer models will show as ZHA and older models as ZZL (even if they're on the latest firmware).

verbal shale Jan 23, 2021, 1:29 PM

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@mellow geode but how to pair with zha

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I have 2 philips hue go

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one vs 1 and other vs 2

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before my sonoff zigbee bridge die, I did manage to pair with zha

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now with a new sonoff zigbee bridge (tasmotizes) I did manage to pair everything exept philips hue go

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ialready dicharge the battery on bought

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booth*

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 1:45 PM

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I also have both generations. Both paired just fine with ZHA. Might wanna reset them with a Hue Dimmer (holding ON/I and OFF/O for 10 - 15 seconds)

spare ridge Jan 23, 2021, 1:46 PM

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I need some help, I flashed the wrong firmware on my GU10 Ikea bulbs. I changed the the image_type on the firmware file, and updated. But now the white color does not work properly. I want to go back and flash the correct version, but it doesn't work. Even changing the image_type again. There must exist some kind of check.
I'm using deconz. Does anyone have a hint how to bypass this?

dry fossil Jan 23, 2021, 1:48 PM

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but it doesn't work
What doesn't work? What happens? Any errors?

spare ridge Jan 23, 2021, 1:51 PM

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If flashes it up to 100%, but at the end. It stays on same version

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 1:56 PM

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Is there any comparison between the three different zigbee solutions for HA?

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 1:57 PM

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Comparison how? The links to each of them are in the topic if that helps

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 1:57 PM

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deCONZ, ZHA and zigbee2mqtt.io

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Yeah I'm looking at getting a device, because my hue bridge insists that trådfri sockets are lights

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and I was wondering what the pros and cons were of the different solutions

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ZHA is integrated in HA, which seems nice, but you mentioned you prefer it to not be, how come?

fervent tiger Jan 23, 2021, 1:58 PM

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I'd like to start with Zigbee integration. What's the best option? deCONZ, zha or Zigbee2MQTT. I suspect Zigbee2MQTT is most flexible, right?

golden vessel Jan 23, 2021, 1:59 PM

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spare ridge If flashes it up to 100%, but at the end. It stays on same version

since the original FW has an older version than the newer (wrong) one, the bulb is probably rejecting it or something

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:00 PM

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I like that zigbee2mqtt isn't dependent on HA. Updates to zigbee2mqtt don't rely on updates to HA, and HA doesn't miss any messages from the Zigbee network when HA is restarting @tired cedar

golden vessel Jan 23, 2021, 2:00 PM

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i've seen some mentions about downgrading IKEA firmware around here... that may do it

spare ridge Jan 23, 2021, 2:00 PM

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golden vessel since the original FW has an older version than the newer (wrong) one, the bulb ...

I already tried updating the version to a higher number, but same result

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Plus I like MQTT in general

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@fervent tiger there's no "best," it's just a matter of preference

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Keep in mind Z2M and deconz are decoupled from HA if that's something that matters to you

raw gale Jan 23, 2021, 2:02 PM

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using zha myself, which works fine for the lights, plugs, switches, sensors etc I have here

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as in, quite a lot of devices 😉

dry fossil Jan 23, 2021, 2:02 PM

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That doesn't help explain the differences 🤷‍♂️

fervent tiger Jan 23, 2021, 2:03 PM

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lilac wharf I like that zigbee2mqtt isn't dependent on HA. Updates to zigbee2mqtt don't rely...

I'd like to use bulbs, swithes, motion sensors and so on... I prefer a flexible 'system' and as I'm not an IT experts also a mid level difficulty...

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Seems Conbee is most easiest but less flexible, ZHA inbetween and Zigbee2mqtt is most flexible but request 'more resources' 😉 from the IT guy

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:04 PM

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All of them pretty much support the same devices. Zigbee2mqtt requires devices to explicitly be supported, whereas ZHA assumes all devices are standards compliant and if they're not, a "quirk" needs to be written for them

dry fossil Jan 23, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Conbee is a stick, not an integration...

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deCONZ is the integration.

raw gale Jan 23, 2021, 2:05 PM

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sorry it doesn't indeed, was reacting on the question in general, was thinking about my follow-up; it's nicely integrated in HA, does not need a separate install like deCONZ (which I heard is also great software, but needs some more moving parts), and does not need MQTT. Using a Conbee II stick with ZHA (you do not need deCONZ for this stick)

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Indeed, zigbee2mqtt naturally needs an MQTT broker, but that's not particularly difficult to set up (and is very easy if you run an install method with add-ons)

dry fossil Jan 23, 2021, 2:06 PM

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And very easy if you don't have add-ons too. The Docker image eclipse/mosquitto takes minutes to set up

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:06 PM

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Well, it's easy in general heh

raw gale Jan 23, 2021, 2:06 PM

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lilac wharf Indeed, zigbee2mqtt naturally needs an MQTT broker, but that's not particularly ...

absolutely, just did so anyway, as i'm trying to add some z-wave things to my network

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:06 PM

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Before this potentially comes up, having an MQTT broker involved doesn't add any noticeable latency

raw gale Jan 23, 2021, 2:07 PM

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good point btw, didn't even think about that, as such message brokers generally are pretty fast

dry fossil Jan 23, 2021, 2:08 PM

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And for anyone that might be building a single system across multiple buildings (sheds/greenhouses/barns), your Zigbee doesn't need to reach the other building, as long as you can set up a network-connected device with another coordinator. The MQTT in Z2M means you can have a distributed network.

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Indeed. You can accomplish a similar goal by running HA + ZHA on multiple hosts and using the remote HA custom integration FYI, but that's additional work

raw gale Jan 23, 2021, 2:11 PM

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dry fossil And for anyone that might be building a single system across multiple buildings ...

that's cool, any idea if that also can be made to work with the other zigbee systems (e.g., another coordinator networked back to HA through serial-over-network or something)?

raw gale Jan 23, 2021, 2:11 PM

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lilac wharf Indeed. You *can* accomplish a similar goal by running HA + ZHA on multiple host...

ah, I think that answers my question

golden vessel Jan 23, 2021, 2:11 PM

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You can also have multiple HA instances with ZHA, and connect them with https://github.com/custom-components/remote_homeassistant

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Look a few messages above 😛

golden vessel Jan 23, 2021, 2:12 PM

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oops 🙂 copying the link made me slow 😄

obsidian path Jan 23, 2021, 2:12 PM

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mellow geode The newer "Zigbee 3.0" bulbs by Signify (Philips Hue) have a QR-code on them and...

Does this have any effect on my Zigbee network?
I thought that ZLL was "better" than ZHA.
The Hubitat documentation recommends to avoid combining Zigbee lightbulbs with other Zigbee devices, and instead keep the lightbulbs on a separate network. Does this also apply to HA?
Right now I have Philips Hue bulbs, motion sensors and dimmer switches. My plan is to move my by Hue GU10 spots to a separate Conbee/deCONZ mesh to create coverage for my Aqara door sensors, and Hue motion sensors and dimmer switches, but keep the rest of my Hue bulbs on the Hue bridge, to be able to control them with Google Assistant and the Hue widget.

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 2:15 PM

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No, a device with the ZLL profile is not "better".

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Basically, it shouldn't make a difference.

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Also, if you're using two Zigbee meshes, make sure that they aren't on the same channel. By default, ZHA (the integration in Home Assistant) is on channel 15 and the channel for the Hue Bridge can be changed in their app.

obsidian path Jan 23, 2021, 2:17 PM

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I'm running Hue on channel 20 and deCONZ on channel 25

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Ah, I see. That's good

verbal shale Jan 23, 2021, 2:19 PM

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@mellow geode i dont have the huw dimmer

obsidian path Jan 23, 2021, 2:19 PM

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I was just wondering if it could be a problem to combine ZHA and ZLL devices on the same network.
https://docs.hubitat.com/index.php?title=How_to_Build_a_Solid_Zigbee_Mesh

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If I understand the Hubitat recommendations correct I should keep my lightbulbs on the Hue bridge, and everything else on another Zigbee network

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But they don't mention what I should use as repeaters when there are on bulbs on the network

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 2:21 PM

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I've got 74 devices on my ZHA (the integration in Home Assistant) network. Many ZHA hue bulbs (the new ones) and many "old" ZLL hue bulbs. No issue whatsoever.

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:21 PM

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@obsidian path most mains-powered Zigbee devices are routers

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 2:21 PM

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I've also heard that ZLL hue bulbs have issues acting as a router but I didn't have issues.

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Exceptions include Sengled bulbs and most no-neutral switches

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Man I'm having a hard time figuring out what stick to buy. Kinda leaning towards a conbee II currently, as that'll work with all three options

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but it's using an internal antenna :/

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Conbee is flagged Experimental for Z2M

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:22 PM

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yeah, that too

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:22 PM

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ZZH or slaesh's stick will work with z2m and ZHA

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Honestly, pick a stick that works with ZHA and Z2M, don't worry about deCONZ 😉

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 2:23 PM

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verbal shale <@773609067264344105> i dont have the huw dimmer

The 2nd gen Hue Go can also be reset by pressing the button for 10 seconds. Then you should be able to press it again, to turn the light back on and it should also be in pairing mode.

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:23 PM

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@sour shadow I was leaning towards that too. Not sure why deCONS doens't want to play with the other kids 😛

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Well, they're special 😄

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:23 PM

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I think I'll go for the slaesh stick. Its hips from the EU

verbal shale Jan 23, 2021, 2:23 PM

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@mellow geode I did try....alot of times

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it dont show in zha integration

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 2:24 PM

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There's a lot of potential for the platform TBH, but they've been going through "growing pains" of late with customer support and stuff shrug

fervent tiger Jan 23, 2021, 2:24 PM

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tired cedar Man I'm having a hard time figuring out what stick to buy. Kinda leaning towards...

Same issue here. This one seems a good one: https://be.farnell.com/silicon-labs/etrx357usb-8m/zigbee-transceiver-module-2-4ghz/dp/2442933 but needs to be flashed base on https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha#known-working-zigbee-radio-modules

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:25 PM

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@fervent tiger I'm looking at the ones recommended by z2m, and in particular this one https://slae.sh/projects/cc2652/

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ships from the EU, if you need one from the UK, then there's the zzh

fervent tiger Jan 23, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Yours is much cheaper, this is ZHA?

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Zigbee2mqtt or ZHA

violet dagger Jan 23, 2021, 2:28 PM

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the eternal question

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 2:29 PM

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The answer of course is yes

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:29 PM

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heh. I meant it works with either 🙂

fervent tiger Jan 23, 2021, 2:29 PM

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That's flexible ;-), if you even can change the 'option' the way it works with HA. Based on the above info I think I go for this one and start with ZHA

obsidian path Jan 23, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Are there anything like the Shelly relays where I can control what happens when the switch is presses. But Zigbee based instead of wifi?
I have found Nordtronic/SunRicer Box Dimmer but it has no where near the features of the Shelly

dry fossil Jan 23, 2021, 2:34 PM

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There are some DIY options listed on the websites in the topic.

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You're quite limited with DIY for Zigbee. It's not as easy as just buying a load of ESP boards.

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:34 PM

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@obsidian path So you mean where it has a button input that's fully programmable, and a switched output?

obsidian path Jan 23, 2021, 2:35 PM

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I'm looking for something like the Night mode of the shelly

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The Nordtronic is Zigbee based, and can turn on/off and dim a normal bulb

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be controller over zigbee

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 2:38 PM

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@amber gull Well it looks like it was supposed to work, but didn't. I too saw that the power-on attribute changed to 'PowerOnState.LastState'. However in my testing it didn't seem to work. 😦 Guess I'm still keeping the hue bridge for the power-on state to be working!

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:38 PM

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@obsidian path Yeah that's what I use too. You might be able to go about it in a hacky way, and react to a state-change triggered by the nordtronic

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 2:39 PM

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@hollow forum we must be missing some thing

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How bad do you want it? Is it worth it to sniff the traffic while you change the setting on the hub?

fervent tiger Jan 23, 2021, 2:40 PM

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tired cedar Zigbee2mqtt or ZHA

Are you sure it supports both? On https://slae.sh/projects/cc2652/#the-stick I only see Zigbee2mqtt

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Or means 'Openthread' ZHA?

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:43 PM

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@fervent tiger https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy

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look for CC2652R

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Or maybe look through Deconz issue? Missing attribute?

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Or firmware not at latest?

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Though if it works on hub

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:44 PM

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@fervent tiger OpenThread is an alternative to zigbee

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 2:45 PM

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@amber gull Sniffing traffic a bit above me, unfortunately. I was actually surprised more people weren't interested in this as it's pretty much the only advantage the hue bridge has? (Also, I'm using a husbzb and the latest firmware.)

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 2:45 PM

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@obsidian path have you seen this? https://github.com/basilfx/TRADFRI-Hacking

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Sniffing is easy if you have a Linux box

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Well maybe perhaps I will another time. Was thinking about another pi anyways. I'll keep tinkering for now.

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 2:48 PM

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You might like this too https://github.com/hass-emulated-hue/core

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I'll check on my bulbs later next week too

fervent tiger Jan 23, 2021, 2:51 PM

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@tired cedar Mine is ordered 😉 Thanks for the tip

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 2:51 PM

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yeah got one on the way for me too 🙂

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Hmm that looks like it could be an alternative. I wonder if the power-on state would work then. Doubtful, but it would also be cool if it could work with other smart bulbs. I wanted to remove the hue bridge because I noticed tons of interference, but I didn't realize there were different channels that could be set up -_-

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Tazmota - sonoff zigbee bridge question:
this thing uses the built in Zigbee HA integration. Does anyone on here use it? If Home Assistant is restarted, does the zigbee network fall on its face for a few minutes to an hour, the way it does for a direct-connected usb controller?

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:56 PM

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the zigbee network stays up even when using a USB stick with ZHA

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home assistant just doesn't see any zigbee messages on the network until it's finished restarting

verbal shale Jan 23, 2021, 2:57 PM

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@lilac wharf I did try on e thing in ZHA that completly dont work

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 2:57 PM

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I have a conbee2 and when i used ZHA if I restarted HA core (i.e. updated to the next nightly), a third of my devices would drop off the network for a while, so I'm not sure I believe you 🙂

verbal shale Jan 23, 2021, 2:57 PM

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light groups with switchs

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zigbee groups not ha groups

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:58 PM

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@old kernel as in, you didn't see any messages from them for a bit after restarting?

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 2:58 PM

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correct

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and could not control them. some took an hour to recover, repeatably

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 2:58 PM

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then perhaps they didn't have anything to report in that time

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ah, well that's weird. my understanding is that the network itself is unaffected

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but i'm not an expert by any means (and i don't use ZHA anymore) so someone else would need to comment

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Conbee had some interesting quirks, bugs on network start I believe

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 3:01 PM

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I've been thinking i should send back the conbee and get a zzh or sonoff bridge. zzh coming from EU to US is expensive to ship though...

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 3:01 PM

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zzh isn't shipped from the EU 😉 (london)

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 3:01 PM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_adapters.html#texas-instruments-launchxl-cc26x2r1 or https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_adapters.html#texas-instruments-launchxl-cc1352p-2

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Both can be bought direct from the US

lilac wharf Jan 23, 2021, 3:02 PM

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zzh coming from EU to US is expensive to ship though...
instead of $30 + $14 shipping, just think of it as $44 with free shipping

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problem solved

tired cedar Jan 23, 2021, 3:03 PM

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bargain!

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 3:04 PM

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sonoff zb bridge is 26 us

mighty river Jan 23, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Hi guys, i have a conbee 2 stick for my zigbee network. i was able to connect it and set it up. However after updating the gateway to its newest firmware it always disconnects after 5 seconds of being logged in. Does anybody know how to easily flash another firmware to the conbee stick without the deconz addon? I have tried with CGFFlasher but to no succes

obsidian sandalBOT Jan 23, 2021, 3:05 PM

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The topic of this channel is:

Zigbee :bee: - please remember to mention whether you're using zha (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha), deCONZ (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/deconz), zigbee2mqtt (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io), or even something else.

Looking for devices? See https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ and https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_devices.html.

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 3:05 PM

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☝️ So? Which?

mighty river Jan 23, 2021, 3:08 PM

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working with the deconz addon

austere patio Jan 23, 2021, 3:08 PM

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spare ridge I need some help, I flashed the wrong firmware on my GU10 Ikea bulbs. I changed ...

Which firmware did you modify and for what bulb?

mighty river Jan 23, 2021, 3:08 PM

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the conbee 2 firmware

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in the gateway option in deconz

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after the update it no longer works

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:09 PM

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You can ask here too

obsidian sandalBOT Jan 23, 2021, 3:09 PM

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deCONZ by dresden elektronik is a software that communicates with ConBee/RaspBee Zigbee gateways and exposes Zigbee devices that are connected to the gateway. Our #zigbee-archived channel is a good place to ask about using it with Home Assistant, but they also have their own Discord server.

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:09 PM

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hollow forum <@!89013483684765696> Well it looks like it was supposed to work, but didn't. I ...

If you change to power_on_state to 0xFF in the PhilipsOnOffCluster
and power_on_level to 0xFF in the PhilipsLevelControlCluster, it should work.

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Also, if you have a bluetooth capable bulb, you can change it that way.

spare ridge Jan 23, 2021, 3:12 PM

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austere patio Which firmware did you modify and for what bulb?

I used 10035534-2.1-TRADFI-bulb-ws-gu10-2.3.050 on the bulbs from this pack: https://www.ikea.com/pt/pt/p/tradfri-conjunto-c-comando-espectro-branco-00406547/
by changing the image_type ( 0x2201 -> 0x2203 )

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:12 PM

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@mellow geode did we get the right attributes? #zigbee-archived message

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:12 PM

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I'd just do it through the UI (if it's added by the proper quirk). I'll take a look in second

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:13 PM

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End point always 11?

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:13 PM

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Yep

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Mhm, looks correct

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:14 PM

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I have a LWA007 that it didn't work on

austere patio Jan 23, 2021, 3:15 PM

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spare ridge I used 10035534-2.1-TRADFI-bulb-ws-gu10-2.3.050 on the bulbs from this pack: h...

No clue how deCONZ handles ota but what does the bulb send as its image type, manufacturer id, and current file version when it asks for a new image a minute after being power cycled? deCONZ should expose this in some debug log.

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:16 PM

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(At least you could try to set it using the BT app (to bind with the app, turn off the light by cutting mains and power it back on. BT can pair up to a couple of minutes.) Then you should be able to read the attributes).

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Perhaps power_on_color_temperature (0x4010) also needs to be changed

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:17 PM

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Didn't set that on mine as it's not CCT, but can try blasting all of them

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Don't need a SW toggle on off after setting attribs or anytbingy

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:18 PM

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I'd just wait a couple of seconds before trying to turn it off and back on, but it should work. Did you change yours using the UI or through service calls?

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(And on which sw_build_id is it?)

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:19 PM

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1.65.11_hB798F2B

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I haven't even checked if that's latest I just suck down all the available firmwares

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Yeah, that's the latest for most BT-capable models.

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I'll quickly try on one of my own lamps.

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 3:28 PM

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mellow geode If you change to ``power_on_state`` to ``0xFF`` in the ``PhilipsOnOffCluster`` ...

I think it worked maybe, and I just have to wait a while in a certain state before doing a power cycle. My power_on_state is PowerOnState.LastState and my power_on_level is 255 when I 'Get Zigbee Attribute'. I have just power-cycled twice without the bulb turning on!

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:31 PM

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For color capable bulbs to properly restore state, I think you also need to set current_x and current_y to 65535 using manufacturer code 4107 (but that already seems to be set by default when checking using that manufacturer code).
But I'm glad that it seems to work now!

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 3:34 PM

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yeah it seems to be consistent with the power on state! I'm not as concerned about color, but I will try to test it. I was definitely using the UI wrong before since I have no idea what I am doing 🙂 Glad there are people who know!

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Is your bulb already "detected" by some Philips quirk?

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:36 PM

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amber gull I have a LWA007 that it didn't work on

Can you also send me the signature of this? (Could be added to a quirk, so that UI configuration is (at least kind of) supported)

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:37 PM

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We need to flesh out some UI funcs from the quirks

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Quirk: zhaquirks.philips.zllextendedcolorlight.ZLLExtendedColorLight

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:37 PM

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I think one or two quirks has an option to display a function

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Yeah. For now, it may be best to properly document how to set the power on behavior for hue bulbs.

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But does the LWA007 bulb already have a quirk? (So that the custom attributes are displayed in the UI?)

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:40 PM

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No quirk - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gCfwbCrqxW/

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Thanks. If you have any other Philips lights that don't have a quirk (yet), please also send me the signatures (if possible).

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:42 PM

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I found the LWBs really poorly behaved

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that's the only model I have currently, Kinda ended up with them by accident

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:44 PM

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amber gull I found the LWBs really poorly behaved

Was there anything specific that was wrong with them?

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:44 PM

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They would not always respond to ZCL attribute reads

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And would also kill centralite children

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Huh, that's weird

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 3:50 PM

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Even the LWA007 won't respond to attribute reads consistently

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(I ping everything)

hollow forum Jan 23, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Since it seems to be working I updated my post on the HA forums. Feel free to add additional documentation if needed. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/accessing-philips-hue-bulb-sensor-configuration-with-zha-integration/209638/3 . Also there might be other posts but this was the only one I could find when looking for power-on configuration for ZHA. Thanks!

mellow geode Jan 23, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Great. Although I was able to have it restore to last state just fine using the UI.
For color bulbs, it seems like color_on_temperature, the power_on_level and the power_on_state needed to be changed in the respective clusters.

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Hi, I am trying to configure zigbee on NAS Synology. I made a topic https://community.home-assistant.io/t/nas-synology-zigbee-docker-compose/271378 with my current configuration. But I found all information around how to do it like a little mess.

Is it good approach to do it in docker-compose, because as I understand I can't use Supervisor, because I want to use docker. Right?

Can someone share configs and give some hints how to configure all this things without investing a month? 😉

wide sigil Jan 23, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Hi! Anyone else having issues with Tradfri RGB bulbs and the conbee2? (using deConz)
Currently, multiple times per day they just don't turn off.
Phoscon webapp says that they are turned off. HomeAssistant says they are, yet my eyes say they aren't.
I have absolutely no Idea how to debug/fix that.
I've been having this problem for months, first with the Ikea Gateway, now with the conbee2.
At this point I think all my 3 rgb bulbs are broken, or they have a bug.

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 5:40 PM

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So I switched back to the ZHA integration, again. Maybe with a firmware update on the conbee2 and a couple more mains powered devices it will be more stable through resets.
I noticed that the 'colorloop' effect isn't available for my Osram/LEDVANCE bulbs. Anyone know what would need to be updated to add it? Would this just be a "quirk"?

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 5:41 PM

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wide sigil Hi! Anyone else having issues with Tradfri RGB bulbs and the conbee2? (using deC...

how many zigbee devices do you have? How spread out are they?

wide sigil Jan 23, 2021, 5:42 PM

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old kernel how many zigbee devices do you have? How spread out are they?

12 lights, 1 sensor, 1 remote. The rgb ones are next to each other, max 1m apart, and max. 2m away from the conbee.

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 5:43 PM

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hmm. running latest conbee2 firmware? my experience with conbee hasn't been great, but you're right that it might just be your bulbs being buggy.
I sometimes have to turn on and immediately back off devices to get them to actually turn off

wide sigil Jan 23, 2021, 5:44 PM

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old kernel hmm. running latest conbee2 firmware? my experience with conbee hasn't been grea...

Firmware: 26680700; Version: 2.07.01 / 8.12.2020.
Had to manually update the stick via my pc.

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But yeah, I think the bulbs are broken/ bugged. I connected them to the tradfri hub again, to check for patches, but they're up2date.
Guess I'll buy 3 other rgb ones.

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 5:47 PM

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I've been using osram/sylvania/ledvance bulbs recently, because they're cheap, but they apparently have a very limited buffer for relay/routing and are good at losing packets... wish I could install some hacked firmware that just announces them as end devices

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i haven't noticed a problem there though. and for now i just want to get 'colorloop' to work 🙂

wide sigil Jan 23, 2021, 5:49 PM

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For now my workaround is to turn all my lights on and off a couple of times in my "leaving home" automation, to make sure they're actually off... 😒

old kernel Jan 23, 2021, 5:50 PM

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i just switched back from zigbee2mqtt because I had to set my climate automation to run the night setback commands 15 or so times for the thermostats to get them, heh.
the built in ZHA seems more reliable

wide sigil Jan 23, 2021, 5:52 PM

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zha didn't do it for me at all, couldn't even connect anything. welp, that's what makes tinkering with this stuff fun, I guess :D

signal adder Jan 23, 2021, 5:58 PM

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On the Zigbee map, what to the labels on the edges mean, like "12/6" -- I assume when its one number like "102" that's LQI... but what does the slash mean?

hollow token Jan 23, 2021, 6:23 PM

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hey ho, can i use the conbee 2 directly in ha or do i have to setup the deconz docker image?

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what is the better way?

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 6:24 PM

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You can use it with zha

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Better... there is no better

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Better is about you

hollow token Jan 23, 2021, 6:24 PM

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zha is good , perfect

hidden vine Jan 23, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Hi! Out of the blue I'm getting "Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)". So far I've tried plugging the CC2531 in without USB extender cable, switched config from "- /dev/ttyACM0" to "- >- /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_(...)", multiple system resets and a restore to when everything worked fine. Keep getting the error, and thus can't open the zigbee2mqtt frontend. Does anyone know where else I could search for the problem?

meager vortex Jan 23, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Anyone have a link to a decent write-up on ZHA Clusters? Looking for a general howto/overview.

golden vessel Jan 23, 2021, 6:41 PM

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meager vortex Anyone have a link to a decent write-up on ZHA Clusters? Looking for a general ...

https://zigbeealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/07-5123-06-zigbee-cluster-library-specification.pdf

meager vortex Jan 23, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Ah, so this is less of a ZHA thing and more of a Zigbee thing

hollow token Jan 23, 2021, 7:00 PM

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do someone know a zigbee repeater or similar?

strange ibex Jan 23, 2021, 7:07 PM

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tradfri repeater

obsidian sandalBOT Jan 23, 2021, 7:28 PM

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@devout egret posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Rjk3QcvXFv/

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:29 PM

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I asked a question above. It is about Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-23 20:00:34: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0' which shouldn't happen.

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 7:29 PM

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facepalm

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@devout egret READ THE RULES

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They are not optional

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:30 PM

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?

obsidian sandalBOT Jan 23, 2021, 7:30 PM

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@devout egret Rule #6: Spam will not be tolerated, including but not limited to: self-promotion, flooding, text walls (longer than 15 lines) and unapproved bots.

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 7:30 PM

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☝️

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You've already been told about that. Don't make it a third time

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:31 PM

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ok, but while we have automated pastebin why to do this manually...

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Because ... that's the rules

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:31 PM

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ok

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 7:31 PM

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You still haven't said what USB stick you're using. You'd said that /dev/bus/usb/003/003 was your Z-Wave stick

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:32 PM

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slaesh’s CC2652RB stick

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 7:32 PM

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And you're using a Z-Wave stick?

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:32 PM

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only the one which I mentioned above

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Well, then, that path doesn't related to your Zigbee stick

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:34 PM

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But there is Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0' - is it not true?

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I mean log says something different

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 7:35 PM

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It means that the thing you passed as /dev/ttyACM0 isn't a functional Zigbee stick

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So, whatever /dev/bus/usb/003/003 is it doesn't appear to be the thing you need

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:36 PM

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ok thanks, but then I have no idea how to find "another one" in NAS Synology. I am going to figure this out.

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Their forums may be able to help

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:38 PM

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I did how they described this. It always end with this path.

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But I guess there are differences between models maybe

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Or, that's something else shrug

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Replace /PATH_TO_YOUR_USB_STICK matches the path for your USB stick (e.g., /dev/ttyACM0 for most Synology users)
From the Docker install guide https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/installation/docker/

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:40 PM

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yes, but not in my case

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this path doesn't exist

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Time to ask their forums for help then

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 7:41 PM

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yes, I am going to figure this out

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thank you for help

raw gale Jan 23, 2021, 7:43 PM

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hollow token do someone know a zigbee repeater or similar?

everyone net-powered zigbee device is a repeater too

hollow token Jan 23, 2021, 7:44 PM

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so seems that i have some cool staff 😉

torpid cove Jan 23, 2021, 8:00 PM

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am I missing out if I stay with 2531?

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 8:14 PM

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You're missing out on performance and stability

torpid cove Jan 23, 2021, 8:39 PM

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hmm, I need to research a little more. Performance is good enough so far but better stability is always nice

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 8:59 PM

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I installed driver on NAS Synology and now I have - /dev/ttyUSB0:/dev/ttyACM0 but I have exactly the same error Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-23 21:54:12: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0'. Any more hints?

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Are you sure the stick is /dev/ttyUSB0?

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 9:00 PM

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I unplug the stick and plug. I can see in dmesg cp210x converter now attached to ttyUSB0

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:00 PM

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What stick is it?

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 9:01 PM

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slaesh’s CC2652RB stick

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:01 PM

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It should also show up as a /dev/serial/by-id/ path

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 9:02 PM

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NAS Synology doesn't have /dev/serial

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:02 PM

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Oh yes, you've got the weird system shrug

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 9:04 PM

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/dev/ttyUSB0 looks good

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Can someone confirm if wrong device in /dev/path throw No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0 ?

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:12 PM

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That or the stick doesn't have Zigbee firmware on it

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 9:13 PM

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I ordered with zigbee firmware, but maybe they did mistake. So now I have to figure out how to verify that. The log message is very confusing.

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:13 PM

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It's most likely the device /dev/ttyUSB0 doesn't exist to be passed through, or you've a typo in your config

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 9:14 PM

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but it also can mean it exist, but this is not expected device

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:14 PM

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Or it doesn't have access to it

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Ha I found it!
privileged: true or - /dev/ttyUSB0:/dev/ttyACM0
If it is privileged it is lookg /dev/ttyACM0 (default dev in config) on NAS Synlogy instead of in container. Without privileged it looks in container.

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so if it works for somebody, it is coincidence somebody has the same path on server and in container

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in my case I have different path, so official example doesn't work

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Does HA need access to stick or only zigbee2mqtt?

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:23 PM

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Only the thing using it, which isn't HA 😉

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Ok so I have na issue 😉
I am adding zigbee integration and I have to choose Select serial port for Zigbee radio but I see 0 devices to choose and when I click enter manually I can't write anything - it is bugged.

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oh ok I think it works differently. HA configs are very confusing.

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ok I have no idea what to choose there and why I don't see the device on the beginning to choose

sour shadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Why

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The

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Fsck

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You're using Zigbee2MQTT

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Why would you then configure zha?

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/integration/home_assistant.html

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 9:31 PM

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oh, my mistake then

foggy solar Jan 23, 2021, 10:23 PM

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Evening everyone, thinking about replacing switches in a few rooms of my house with blanking plates and sticking a tradfri remote to them, but then I realised that to pair a Tradfri bulb you need to toggle the power 6 times.. does anyone know if there's a way around that or if I should just fit an adapter over a switch instead?

devout egret Jan 23, 2021, 10:28 PM

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I added one device, but I can't make MQTT to see door open/close sensor. Does it mean something is wrong with configuration or it can mean it doesn't support this device?

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Oh it already paired, but after about 10 minutes. Why? Is it common?

golden vessel Jan 23, 2021, 10:34 PM

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foggy solar Evening everyone, thinking about replacing switches in a few rooms of my house w...

If your HA dies, your router dies, or zigbee fails, how would you toggle your lights? 😄

naive ivy Jan 23, 2021, 10:53 PM

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foggy solar Evening everyone, thinking about replacing switches in a few rooms of my house w...

I usually just take the bulb and pop it into a lamp or another fixture that has a switch when I need to reset or re-pair them. Probably want to still be near the intended location of the bulb so it finds its proper place in the mesh.

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Shelly in there with Tube's setup? Where physical switch normally sends a zigbee off, unless HA is down, it physically cuts power?

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Or Tube's fancy switches - https://www.amazon.com/Lutron-Aurora-Dimmer-Philips-Z3-1BRL-WH-L0/dp/B07Z6RFQ35?th=1

golden vessel Jan 23, 2021, 11:37 PM

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amber gull Or Tube's fancy switches - https://www.amazon.com/Lutron-Aurora-Dimmer-Philips-Z...

I want those for EU switches 😦

amber gull Jan 23, 2021, 11:46 PM

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Dat price tho

golden vessel Jan 24, 2021, 12:05 AM

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yeah, I wouldn't buy it at that price 😄

gentle flint Jan 24, 2021, 12:10 AM

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old kernel I have a conbee2 and when i used ZHA if I restarted HA core (i.e. updated to the...

They off the network or HA cannot read them because it was restarted and doesn't know their system yet? I have remotes controlling lights directly and it works event if i shutdown ha completely or physically unplug the stick. So network does stay up, how useful not is to you is another question.

old kernel Jan 24, 2021, 12:19 AM

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I switched back to zha and its back to working reliably again. I saw a few others in the zigbee2mqtt project complained about the same problem I had. I think it doesn't know how to send the device wakeup before making a change

sour shadow Jan 24, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Just assembled my new ZZH stick, and discovered that there's now a hole over the reset/programming button NM_Tada tada_animated

ivory hound Jan 24, 2021, 10:12 AM

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lol so i have a samjin smart button and i had to change battery. the thing is with new battery long press works (give zha events) short one press does not all this while if i put back old battery all works ok, even after i repaired, this happen to me on samjin door sensor also (after changing the battery i had to repair it, was a pain)

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what is going on?

dry fossil Jan 24, 2021, 11:05 AM

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Crap batteries? 🤷‍♂️

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If the voltage is lower, maybe it's not enough.

ivory hound Jan 24, 2021, 12:51 PM

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is not

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old one 2,90v

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new one 3.25

lime locust Jan 24, 2021, 2:30 PM

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legacy: false (should this be added in configuration.yaml of the zigbee2mqtt on the top or per device bases ?)

lilac wharf Jan 24, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Per device. There should be an example for it in the docs for that device, like this: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/6ARCZABZH.html#deprecated-click-event

lime locust Jan 24, 2021, 2:42 PM

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im getting an error while trying to pair a Trust wireless switch;

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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-01-24 15:23:53: Failed to configure '0x00158d00038e5ff4', attempt 3 (Error: Bind 0x00158d00038e5ff4/1 genOnOff from '0x00124b0018e299ec/1' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms)

steep pollen Jan 24, 2021, 4:27 PM

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German Lidl has some Zigbee stuff back on Monday
https://www.lidl-flyer.com/aktionsprospekt-25-01-2021-30-01-2021-6/view/flyer/page/20

devout egret Jan 24, 2021, 6:01 PM

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cat devices.yaml
'0x00158d00041e2fca':
  friendly_name: 'aqara-sensor-thp'
'0xec1bbdfffe959b8c':
  friendly_name: 'tuya-contact-sensor'

Shouldn't this make this friendly_name in zigbee2mqtt available by automate in HA? If not what is the purpose of that?

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from doc I see it should work

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zigbee2mqtt needed to be restart

mild merlin Jan 24, 2021, 6:57 PM

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hey all - I'm having some issues with ZHA groups/multicast unreliability, I posted it to the forum but wasn't sure if real time discussion here would be more helpful: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/help-desired-zha-groups-multicast-unreliability-aps-defrag-deferred/272488

mellow geode Jan 24, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Well, Ecosmart bulbs aren't known for their great software

mild merlin Jan 24, 2021, 7:03 PM

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I've gotten that impression, but do you know specific known issues? It's also pretty weird that this worked perfectly well with these bulbs for months and then suddenly started acting weird

mellow geode Jan 24, 2021, 7:04 PM

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There is an issue of Ecosmart not responding to unicast requests and basically locking up completely (which is also present in the firmware on the IKEA bulbs (but at least there it could be fixed using updates in the future)).

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The bulbs need to be power cycled to work again.

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How many bulbs are in the ZHA group that's not working correctly?

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Also, are all bulbs in the ZHA group not responding to a group turn on/turn off command or are some bulbs still changing?

mild merlin Jan 24, 2021, 7:05 PM

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There are a few - 5 in my bedroom which is the one that I reproduced for the pasted logs, 8 in the basement, 6 in another room, maybe 8 in another room. All these rooms display the same issue at various times, and the issue doesn't require a power cycle to go back to normal, but I've also power cycled these a few times in my debugging

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all the bulbs in the group stay the same, either all on or all off

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which is part of what makes me think some internal ZHA handling, maybe some code specific to these bulbs (is there any such code?), may have changed with some HA upgrade I did and I didn't know which version caused it

mellow geode Jan 24, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Might be unrelated, but did you ever update the firmware (https://github.com/walthowd/husbzb-firmware) on the stick?
This could help

mild merlin Jan 24, 2021, 7:11 PM

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I have not, and didn't realize that there were firmware updates available. Let me see if I can find a way to tell the current firmware I have on there, and maybe see if anything in the changelog looks relevant

mellow geode Jan 24, 2021, 7:12 PM

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The chip in the stick is already outdated and other adapters like the Elelabs stick can be updated to much newer firmware.

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Doing the firmware update shouldn't reset any settings on EZSP based sticks.

mild merlin Jan 24, 2021, 7:14 PM

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I guess I could also consider replacing the stick at some point with something still receiving updates. I'm not even sure what coordinator firmware updates tend to address. It does seem that a lot of migration would be involved to get all my devices talking to the new coordinator. So maybe for now I'll stick with the firmware update and consider a replacement another time 🙂

mellow geode Jan 24, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Yep, could be a good idea!

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In the future, you can also backup the stick using the bellows library Home Assistant is using and load it on another stick.
There's also an experimental script to go from an EZSP based stick (like your stick or the Elelabs stick) to a TI based stick (like the ZZH stick).
I'm not sure if this is related to your issue though. So trying the firmware update first seems like a good idea.

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Also, @amber gull liked his Ecosmart bulbs so much (#zigbee-archived message) that he sold all 31 bulbs he had.
Basically, they're not really nice.
(#zigbee-archived message)

mild merlin Jan 24, 2021, 7:17 PM

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ah ok that's good to know

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oof

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the price is certainly right, but seemingly maybe for a reason...

mellow geode Jan 24, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Probably

mild merlin Jan 24, 2021, 7:19 PM

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I think I have 40 or 60 of them in total right now, many installed and many waiting to be installed, so hopefully this brings them back to how they were the first few months I was using them

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thank you for the tips, I'll give the firmware upgrade a try!

mellow geode Jan 24, 2021, 7:21 PM

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mild merlin I think I have 40 or 60 of them in total right now, many installed and many wait...

Let's hope that works
(I wouldn't count on it though)

verbal shale Jan 24, 2021, 7:28 PM

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does anyone know how to pair the philips hue go in zha? without philips hue or hue dimmer )i already did a 10seconds reset and 20 seconds hardreset) and still zha cant seee the philips hue go

sour shadow Jan 24, 2021, 7:30 PM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/7146060PH.html#pairing

amber gull Jan 24, 2021, 7:31 PM

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@mild merlin I could tell you some tales. We hacked the hub looking for firmware updates. Nada.

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Tried to spoof a IKEA image into them

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Cut one open and booted via FTDI

mild merlin Jan 24, 2021, 7:32 PM

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haha wow

amber gull Jan 24, 2021, 7:32 PM

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I've sent messages to the firmware manager, Fan Ma, at LEEDARSON