zigbee-archived

[verbal shale]

short tap

double tap and long press

its this one

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Zemismart_ZM-ZS2.html

[cold gorge]

Is there a trick to get ZHA issue zigbee command to work? I get an error that it needs 2 parametes

[dry fossil]

Ok. So you've paired it and now you want to use the events for automations, Baba?

[strange ibex]

sander, try to get it going in dev tools first if you aren't already. It should have a button for example data.

[cold gorge]

I went integrations -> zha -> manage clustet

[strange ibex]

oh, nvm. ignore me, I don't know anything about ZHA

[cold gorge]

aarrgg i don't get color information back on my device

[strange ibex]

no x/y?

[cold gorge]

no 😦

wait it does....

i copied some code where they used uint8 instead of uint16... and the code for color control is 0x0300......

wellll

i never saw because i got 00 all the time

[strange ibex]

just curious, what are you writing for?

[verbal shale]

i use zha too

:S

[cold gorge]

custom light controller (want to use it first for my nanoleaf clone)

[mighty river]

I am using Zigbee2MQTT stick

[cold gorge]

but i also got sensors to work so maybe building some zigbee sensors (plant soil sensor)

[mighty river]

And use VirtualBox on a NUC

[strange ibex]

ahh, are you writing a wrapper for another library?

or all fresh

[mighty river]

I notice that if I receive a lot of data the stick stops working and is not recognised anymore as hardware in Home Assistant

Just made a flow in NodeRed to DIM when holdinbg the button

And then it just stops working

[cold gorge]

I'm using the nRF zigbee stack, no arduino bullshit 🙂

[strange ibex]

are the leafs all independent devices or is it globally controlling the rest of things

[cold gorge]

one controller controls the other leafs

[strange ibex]

gotcha

[cold gorge]

so i need some color loops and such

so if you know how i can create zigbee commands i would like to know;)

[strange ibex]

yeah, I would have tried to implement wled or something so I could reuse effects but scratch zigbee sounds fun too

not sure how involved writing a wrapper for wled is

[cold gorge]

I can use some code from wled

[sour shadow]

There's many sticks that Z2M supports FYI 😉

Two of them are known to fail under load

[cold gorge]

I just need to transmit the stuff in zigbee and than its just code and formulas

[mighty river]

I use the CC2531

[obsidian sandal]

The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

Command '~cc253x' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[sour shadow]

Well, you got the known broken one 😉

[strange ibex]

yep. I wrote a bunch of effects for esphome before being guided towards WLED a week or so ago. wled is awesome

[mighty river]

😦

[sour shadow]

Just by a ZZH or even a Slaesh stick 😉

[mighty river]

And I just ordered a nerw one because I thought it was hardware relatred

[sour shadow]

They're cheap for a reason 😉

[strange ibex]

I am not longer interested in writing light effects, haha

[cold gorge]

ah cool! I don't mind making stuff open source though

as long as i get it to work 😛

for now I only see color loop... But I want more xd

[mighty river]

What is the best solution? Price is least of my worries

[strange ibex]

sander, have you seen how flexible WLED is?

the UI, that is

[sour shadow]

If only I'd already mentioned those... or you could find it in the pinned messages 🤔

[cold gorge]

Nope 🙂

[strange ibex]

are you on your pc? I'll stream my dashboard really quickly in #hangout with my audio disabbled

[cold gorge]

okay, for my nanoleafs its maybe easier to use wled, but for sensors zigbee is more prectical

[mighty river]

But what is best ZZH or Slaesh

[obsidian sandal]

@boreal path Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

Command '~irc' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[sour shadow]

Either

[strange ibex]

for sure. I think you would love wled for your nanoleafs

[cold gorge]

I will soon go to bed

[sour shadow]

I mentioned both because they're largely the same

[strange ibex]

you would just have to write the wrapper

[sour shadow]

Cough WLED chat isn't on topic here 😉

Even if WLED is awesome

[strange ibex]

he is talking about implementing stuff with zigbee

[sour shadow]

WLED over Zigbee 🤔

Sounds even better 😄

[lilac wharf]

Bigzee

[strange ibex]

that is my dick's name

she got a kink in 'er

[cold gorge]

If you assist me with the HA side 😛

[sour shadow]

HA is easy, I just go I'm no dev and walk away laughing

[strange ibex]

haha 😛 sander, yeah. implementing sensors with zigbee would be super ideal

but buying premade solutions is ideal too 😛

not as fun

[lilac wharf]

[cold gorge]

Maybe it helps if I say that I'm professionally an embedded software/HW designer 😉

[strange ibex]

yeah, I like to make my own stuff but it just doesn't look as good 😛

[sour shadow]

I'm pretty sure that makes you totally unsuited to any of this, there's no professionals here 😛

[strange ibex]

yeah, I typed a sentence about that a few times and erased it. 😛

[cold gorge]

I mean at work I'm getting paid for programming 😂

[strange ibex]

should hang in #diy-archived and help all the birds

jk

[cold gorge]

If I didn't have a job or life in general I might have time to catch up 🤔 this server is so fast

[sour shadow]

The good news is that HA's pace of releases has halved

It's only monthly now

[dry fossil]

Only 12 updates a year? But I paid good money for this!

[sour shadow]

I have your refund here

[cold gorge]

I've made some custom components but it was hard to catch up with the development

[sour shadow]

Yeah, it's a double edged sword

[radiant crescent]

Anyone have any recommendations on a Smoke/Fire detector compatible with Z2M? there seems to be many but im not familiar with any of the brand names so not sure whats good or bad here.

[strange ibex]

ZZH's are in stock

https://www.tindie.com/products/electrolama/zzh-cc2652r-multiprotocol-rf-stick/

[mighty river]

@sour shadow Do you know where to buy these sticks?

[sour shadow]

169 and falling

Yes

[obsidian sandal]

@boreal path Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

Command '~irc' was invoked by: Tinkerer

@boreal path Generally, don't tag people to ask for help - it comes across as bad manners, you’re demanding somebody answers you. It’s different if you’re thanking somebody, obviously. If you do tag somebody keep it polite and respectful. Remember that everybody is a volunteer, and nobody has to help you, and people may block you.

Similarly, please don’t DM (direct message) people asking for help. It also comes across as demanding, and means that others can’t learn from what you do.

Finally, please keep tagging people in replies to a minimum. That too can become annoying very quickly and should be used only when it's necessary (such as if it's been a long time, or there's multiple conversations going on).

Command '~tagging' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[sour shadow]

@mighty river please take the hint

@mighty river and stop tagging me

[mighty river]

🙂

Sorry!

[sour shadow]

The links in the Z2M docs go to the pages you can buy them on

[mighty river]

great thanks

[sour shadow]

https://www.tindie.com/products/electrolama/zzh-cc2652r-multiprotocol-rf-stick/

Because I happen to have just bought another

[radiant crescent]

FYI, i got my ZZH stick just before Christmas and its been absolutely great. I had the conbee II stick before and it was nothing but issues.

[mighty river]

Damn shipped from UK

That will take forever

[radiant crescent]

Not it wont, it didnt take mine long at all.

I'm in Canada

[verbal shale]

https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/729

:S

[radiant crescent]

I ordered mine on December 15th and got it just before christmas, and thats during the chrismas delivery rush.

[mighty river]

Yes I live in the Netherlands and there is a brexit with long jams at the border

[radiant crescent]

Well its worth the wait. up to you.

[strange ibex]

buy a cheap shitty stick until your good stick comes

[mighty river]

Just ordered

I already have the CC2530

But every day It needs a reboot

Thought it was the NUC or Virtualbox

[strange ibex]

a usb extension cable and only using usb 2 ports will help until then

[mighty river]

I already did

But I have only USB 3.0 poorts

So bought a USB 2.0 HUB

But with that it only holds a few hours

Now in VirtualBox I selected USB 2.0

And it hold a day, if I dont press a button to long 😉

[dry fossil]

Changing the port settings in VirtualBox won't achieve anything. It's the physical USB 3 port that gives off EM interference.

[mighty river]

I heard, but strangely. A USB 2.0 hub does not work

[amber gull]

There is a bug with NUC (x86) and zstack

Affects ZZH too

[mighty river]

So I bought the ZZH stick for nothing 2

What is the solution?

[sour shadow]

I assume it's NUC specific thought, or possibly x86 specific?

[amber gull]

No fix yet

Sporadic reports. uhubctl to restart stick is work around

[strange ibex]

It might not be ideal for you Pascal, but you can put mqtt on any machine

[dry fossil]

Might that be why I occasionally get no z2m after I reboot my host?

[amber gull]

Doesn't seem to affect ARM

[dry fossil]

Don't start the Zigbee war again!

[sour shadow]

I've had no issues with the ZZH on my laptop

[lilac wharf]

Got a linky to the issue Walt? Can't find anything

[sour shadow]

Given the issues I've had with the CC2531, if there's a significant problem I've have expected to hit it by now

[mighty river]

I like the NUC setup, because had problems with the raspberry eating my SD cards

[amber gull]

It's on z2m issues. Look for c26xx / cc1352 thread. It's long

Seems to affect some users every day, some last week, some it only hits once every month or so

[mighty river]

This works really stable, but when my networks became bigger problems started. Especially with Ikea bulbs and node red flows

I will update NUC bios, reinstall the NUC and hope the ZZH stick will do the trick

Is there a need for USB 2.0 there 2?

[sour shadow]

Use USB 2.0 for Zigbee

[mighty river]

ok, so USB 2.0 HUB on the USB 3.0 port will do the trick?

Still have the one I bought with the 1.5m cable

[violet dagger]

What's the x86 bug? I'm using zzh for months and nada

[amber gull]

@mighty river I have the latest bios and using the USB 2.0 portd and the bug still happens

Zstack dies after awhile. Most of the reported users are on NUC. but not all

[mighty river]

I only have USB 3.0 ports

[amber gull]

Yeah, I used the internal ports

[violet dagger]

NUC as a class of computers or intel NUC line if devices?

[mighty river]

Intel NUC

[amber gull]

Doesn't help one way or another - internal / external

[sour shadow]

I'd guess it's specific to the chipset

[violet dagger]

Mine isn't one, although its using J3455 cpu

[mighty river]

But mine is like 5 years ols

old

Will check if it has a internal USB 2.0 port

Did not think so

ALso interesting to know if it's setup specific

DId not have any problems in the beginning

But seemed afterI tried "slimmemeter"to read the Dutch electrioc meter and connected USB the problem started

Or maybe the Ikea

bulbs

[dire willow]

ikea 5 button remotes... not bad for the price for that many buttons.
more of a statement than anything else

[violet dagger]

Maybe it is getting borked by certain devices

[mighty river]

Maybe

But does a USB 2.0 hub on a USB 3.0 port help?

[verbal shale]

how i can add this to HA?
https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/blob/dev/zhaquirks/tuya/ts0042.py

[verbal shale]

anyway to bump zha version from 0.0.30 to 0.0.51 ?

in homeassistant\core

[violet dagger]

upgrade HA

[verbal shale]

my HA is upgraded to the last version

the zha core is not

[golden vessel]

Weird things happening with ZHA (or ezsp).
I have a Xiaomi motion sensor that is sending reports (I've sniffed them with whsniff), but latelly ZHA seems to miss it (it does update the lux). On ZHA logs, I see nothing except the lux! 😮

[verbal shale]

the Core as bump to 0.0.30 2 days ago

https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/45230

but the zha is already into 0.0.51

😦

https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers

[violet dagger]

that is not zha integrationm that is zha quirks

https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/dev/homeassistant/components/zha/manifest.json

[verbal shale]

is not the same thing? (developer)

[violet dagger]

0.51 quirks are 2 days old so you'd need the ha dev branch

[verbal shale]

0.51 have 19 days old

lol

the 0.31 was bumped 2 days ago to home assistant

[violet dagger]

yes that

[golden vessel]

logs: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X9kBtpHDnn/
wireshark: https://imgur.com/a/dw0Xewj
the device is 0xa5e9
I'm puzzled! Why the heck isn't zha getting the ocuppancy message, but gets the lux?

[verbal shale]

soo, how I can manage myself to update to 0.51?

[amber gull]

@golden vessel is parent SiLabs based?

If so, its a stack bug. Power cycle parent

[golden vessel]

Aparently, it jumped to an OSRAM Smart+ Socket

How do I know if it is a SiLabs? Also, is that the same bug with the official elelabs FW kicking out sensors?

[amber gull]

you can do a vendor look up on the first six characters of ieee

[austere patio]

zigpy and zha-device-handlers are two separate packages. You're likely using 0.51.0 or 0.49.0 with the latest HA

[austere patio]

I get it once a month (or two) with an ARM ODROID XU4

[amber gull]

It's a different bug. Device essentially crashes it will no longer route all messages. But it does route lux reports

[golden vessel]

https://maclookup.app/macaddress/7CB03E
OSRAM GmbH 🤷‍♂️

[amber gull]

There is an option to override the IEEE

[golden vessel]

wtf? why lux still goes? LOL

[amber gull]

Most don't but maybe they did

[orchid mural]

okay now i actually manage d to move everything to deconz, without any real problem 😄

[violet dagger]

i still don't know what the bug is exactly but mine is running without issues with z2m

[amber gull]

You can just probably power cycle parent. If everything starts working it's probably the same bug

[bleak fern]

Is there a common troubleshooting step for getting devices to connect properly to zigbee2mqtt after physically moving the zigbee hub? My lamp bulbs, and two powered light switches are just connecting and going through pairing / unpairing isn't resolving either.

[golden vessel]

Hum I've just steered it to the coordinator. If it happens again, I'll try that

@amber gull do you have any pointers to that bug? any discussion or something?

[amber gull]

No, it's the same bug as the IKEA bug. Fixed after 6.7.7

There is code in zha_custom to recreate it

https://community-openhab-org.s3.dualstack.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/7/1/71519739055efd020a8e89ceffba674dcab037f6.png

[orchid mural]

hi anybody that know how reset the xiaomi smoke dector?

[mellow geode]

Look on the Z2M page for the Osram Smart+ plug, it’s reported to cripple messages

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/AB3257001NJ.html#caveats

[austere patio]

Coordinator just stops responding to serial communications

Doesn't ever send a byte back

You can open and close the port all day with random settings but it never responds

When it happens again I'll have to try Z2M with it but I think periodic resets may be the only solution if it's some problem with Z-Stack

[amber gull]

given the same reports on z2m, I don't think there is any magic sequence of bytes to rescue or reset the stack

[gloomy pivot]

so I came home from work with the plan to unpair my zigbee bulbs and lutrons... just to start fresh with them

deleted all four devices from zha, and reset my auroras to factory by this guide: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nBm8vD8D3CxSPfyZZIIEqqS0W7VAY-XQ/view?usp=drivesdk

now I can't get them to bind to the lights properly 😫

if I do click "bind" in the device page for zha, they sometimes want to turn on or off the light, but dimming isn't working, and they often give the mentioned "2x slow blink" that means they're apparently not connected

any ideas?

for the time being I've just removed them again

[golden vessel]

ah nice! it is even documented!

[gloomy pivot]

how does binding... work? should I have any indication in zha that they were bound successfully? can I check for that anywhere?

[lament token]

Hey I wonder if anyone else has any Sengled A60 bulbs? They seem to integrate fine with ZHA but then they become laggy and unresponsive. They're well within signal as when they first registered I could spam on/off fine. No errors produced either Anyone have these bulbs working, or any ideas? I can't see anything when listening to zha_event now either 😩

[woeful sentinel]

i've got what looks like an orphan end device (battery powered Fyrtur roller blind) on my network. no parent or child lines going to it, and I can't reach it (timeout, ??? LQI)
the device 10 feet from it DOES have a parent though
how do i "jog" its memory? make it join a new nearby parent?

[strange ibex]

you can try to repair it where it will be. delete it and then repair

[woeful sentinel]

oof, ok

is that a thing? getting "stuck" without a parent?

i did this and it joined a new parent - yay!

but.. it didn't join the repeat that's in the room with it

guess it prefers a "stronger" parent outside the rooom 🤷‍♂️

[gloomy pivot]

anybody else here use lutron auroras?

have some questions... but not sure if anyone knows the answers.

[amber gull]

Tube does

[gloomy pivot]

do you know about this one?

like as a general zigbee concept

[wintry peak]

I'd like to change out my ZHA controller. I realize I'll need to admit all the devices back into the new controller but I'm wondering if i will need to rename all the devices & entities again, or will it remember the custom names like it does when a device leaves and rejoins the same controller? I've customized the names of pretty much all of them and that would be a pain

[lilac wharf]

@wintry peak what stick do you have now and which one are you moving to?

@gloomy pivot binding lets two Zigbee devices talk to each other without going through the coordinator. It basically allows simple actions (like a button turning a light on/off) that will continue to work even if the Zigbee coordinator is down

Not all devices support binding

[gloomy pivot]

is there any way to see which devices are bound together?

[lilac wharf]

The ZHA log will likely show a successful/unsuccessful binding

Not sure about that one, I don't use ZHA

[gloomy pivot]

what do you use?

[lilac wharf]

Zigbee2mqtt

[gloomy pivot]

is there any way to see that in zigbee2mqtt?

[strange ibex]

devices aren't bound together until you bind them

[lilac wharf]

Yeah, in the UI

Yeah, binding is something you do manually

[gloomy pivot]

yeah I get that lol I don't think mine are binding correctly anymore

[strange ibex]

ahh, okay. 'just wanted to make sure since you weren't seeing it

z2m's new UI has a binding page but I have yet to use bindings

[gloomy pivot]

@lilac wharf could you speak on how come you've chosen zigbee2mqtt over other options? is it more reliable/easier/etc?

[lilac wharf]

Zigbee2mqtt isn't dependent on HA

[gloomy pivot]

ahhh gotcha

[lilac wharf]

So zigbee2mqtt updates aren't dependent on HA updates, and when HA restarts there's no issue of an end device sending an update during the restart and HA missing it as a result

[strange ibex]

z2m seems to have the least people asking for help compared to the others 😛

[lilac wharf]

(like can happen with ZHA)

[gloomy pivot]

that's pretty much good enough for me to switch lol

[lilac wharf]

Hard to tell tbh without knowing the number of users of each Zigbee integration BuSheeZy

[gloomy pivot]

more reliable seems like what I'm hearing

[lilac wharf]

Not necessarily

[strange ibex]

yeah, I know. I shouldn't have said help, more like "My shit aint working"

[gloomy pivot]

lolol

[strange ibex]

but still the same applies

[gloomy pivot]

me

[lilac wharf]

They're both good, I just like decoupling things from HA

[gloomy pivot]

fair enough

basically they end up giving equivalent entities into HA, though?

[lilac wharf]

I like HA to be a state machine and automation center, not necessarily the source of everything

Yeah

[gloomy pivot]

like my bulbs have the light entity and a power sensor

[lilac wharf]

It supports home assistant autodiscovery

[gloomy pivot]

ran as a docker?

or?

[lilac wharf]

Can be

[gloomy pivot]

I'll look into it

[lilac wharf]

I run it as a container, but there are other options

[wintry peak]

I have the nortek husbzb-1 and thinking of switching to sonoff zigbee bridge with tasmota installed on it

[lilac wharf]

Ah

[gloomy pivot]

I'd prefer running as docker tbh

I have the nortek as well

[lilac wharf]

Container, btw

Can't use the HUSBZB-1 with zigbee2mqtt

[gloomy pivot]

potato potato? I guess not exactly lol

ah frick

[lilac wharf]

Not at all heh. Docker is the software

[gloomy pivot]

yeah I get you

[lilac wharf]

Just a friendly nudge before someone gives you actual shit for saying that

[gloomy pivot]

but no?

[lilac wharf]

Unfortunately not

[gloomy pivot]

bummer

[strange ibex]

ZZHs are in stock!

[lilac wharf]

I think support is being worked on though

[strange ibex]

well were a few hours ago

[gloomy pivot]

tbf I got that stick thinking one day I'd have zwave stuff but haven't ever gotten any lol

[strange ibex]

Only 78 left in stock, order now!

[lilac wharf]

I have that stick too. I started off with ZHA and moved to zigbee2mqtt (I bought a ZZH)

Currently only using it for zwave with...three devices lol

Thankfully I bought the ZZH back in September when everything wasn't backed up, so it arrived in a week

[gloomy pivot]

only $30?? a steal if it really does all that stuff

[strange ibex]

it has $14 s&h but works well

I bought two more today

[gloomy pivot]

whoa either way

that's still good

how's shipping time from them?

it does zwave as well?

[lilac wharf]

Took a week to get to me (US) back in Sept

[strange ibex]

I think I paid $30 for shipping last time to get DHL and it was super fast

[lilac wharf]

Who knows now

[lilac wharf]

It can't do it all at once

[strange ibex]

If you haven't bought zwave yet, I would just stick to zigbee 🙂

biased zigbee user here

never used zwave once in my life

[gloomy pivot]

yeah

[lilac wharf]

I have both. Definitely prefer zigbee

[gloomy pivot]

originally I had been looking at the innoveli reds

[lilac wharf]

37 Zigbee devices, 3 zwave lol

[strange ibex]

hot

[gloomy pivot]

I'm happy to stick with zigbee for now though

[strange ibex]

the more routers you have, the stronger your network should be

kinda

I wouldn't split it between zigbee/zwave

all on one

[gloomy pivot]

I don't really know if any of mine route

[lilac wharf]

Most mains-powered Zigbee devices are routers

[gloomy pivot]

ah like bulbs

[strange ibex]

pretty much everything except sengled bulbs, from what I have seen

[gloomy pivot]

ah fantastic, the ones I have lol

[lilac wharf]

Exceptions include Sengled bulbs and most no-neutral switches

[gloomy pivot]

😂

also my switches are no neutral

[lilac wharf]

[strange ibex]

I use sengled bulbs because I don't like routers in my ceilings inside of cages

I bought a ton of ikea repeaters/smart plugs

[lilac wharf]

Yeah, sometimes I wish there were a way to selectively disable routing capability

[strange ibex]

that would bbe cool

zigbee 4.0

[lilac wharf]

Not sure if that's implemented in the Zigbee stacks at all

[gloomy pivot]

ok so, zigbee2mqtt no worky with my stick atm... need to figure out these auroras still though lol

[strange ibex]

you can get a temporary stick for like $4 on amazon for z2m

just so you know before you wait on the zzh

[gloomy pivot]

what stick would that be?

[strange ibex]

the shitty one everyone has issues with

let me search "problems" in this channel, sec

[gloomy pivot]

lol that's great

[strange ibex]

CC2531

maybbe it is only $4 on ali, I thought I paid like nothing for it

[gloomy pivot]

I just sprung for the zzh anyways

[strange ibex]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KW1N1MR/ oh, you probably want the stuff to flash it too. that helps.

yeah, fuck everything. just wait for zzh 😛

[gloomy pivot]

wait, need to flash zzh??

[strange ibex]

zzh flashes no problem with no flasher hardware

[gloomy pivot]

gotcha, but you do still have to flash it?

[strange ibex]

yeah, super simple.

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/getting_started/what_do_i_need.html

[gloomy pivot]

quick one about binding

do I bind the bulb to the knob or the knob to the bulb?

or is it bidirectional?

[strange ibex]

no damn clue.

[gloomy pivot]

ok no worries

I got the answer

knob doesn't show up as an option to bind the bulb to the knob

hey lookie there, one down and bound right

I did this a half dozen times this afternoon with no luck lol

[strange ibex]

I don't have anything bound

all through HA

If she dies, we are doomed

[gloomy pivot]

I'd really prefer to NOT bind these, but they don't seem very friendly to use any other way lol

[strange ibex]

buy some ikea tradfi repeaters

or their smart plugs where you can use them

[gloomy pivot]

for network stability?

[strange ibex]

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tradfri-signal-repeater-30400407/

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tradfri-wireless-control-outlet-30356169/

yes, routers are good for you and they are good for me

[gloomy pivot]

whats your favorite zigbee motion sensor?

[strange ibex]

I use aqara for indoor and Hue for outdoor

the new aqaras coming out over the new few months are much nicer though

T1 or something

I will definitely replace all of my indoor ones with the T1s when they come out and use the current ones for something else

[wintry peak]

What's the difference with the T1 versions?

I see zigbee 3.0 from a quick search. not sure what that provides though. Does it solve the issue with them being non standard zigbee and dropping off the network all the time?

[strange ibex]

settings like timeout

[wintry peak]

oh ya, nice. I've always wanted to change the occupancy duration on my motion sensors. spent a whole day at it one time till i figured out it's not supported!

[strange ibex]

yeah, just the mod people do

[wintry peak]

Are there any docs on migrating from one ZHA controller to another?

[gloomy pivot]

ohh awesome, like how long they stay triggered? one irritation I have with my wyze sense ones (along with eventual faulty mac) is that they stay triggered for 45sec no matter what

[strange ibex]

yeah, can't remember the specifics though

[gloomy pivot]

that sounds great though

[amber gull]

@wintry peak https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/wiki/Coordinator-Backup-and-Migration

[wintry peak]

Ahh nice Thx

[tender cosmos]

I’m looking for zig bee outdoor ‘fairy lights’ to hang in a tree any recommendations? Is there out of box or perhaps better to buy a controller?

If I go controller route, could I just buy some rgbw lights and cut the cable and rewrite?

@sour shadow can you answer my question now?

[obsidian sandal]

See the pinned messages

Command '.pinned' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[sour shadow]

As I said, there's a list of known working hardware there

And yes, you can use a controller and lights, and they'll all be the same colour

[tender cosmos]

Yeah I’m seeing a lot of the lights you can buy have a controller already, eg something with batteries or some IR based crap, typically is the wiring standard on these things so I could just cut and wire into a zigbee rgb controller

I can see there are rgb controller on supported devices so that’s easy to obtain

[sour shadow]

Gledopto are at least one manufacturer of RGB/RGBW/RGB+CCT/CCT controllers

Just watch the voltages 🤣

[tender cosmos]

Right so the controller and lights would obviously need to match otherwise my tree will burn down🔥

[simple sentinel]

I have had good fortune with my aqara sensors so far. What's the timeline likely to be before I see some of the drop-offs people sometimes allude to?

Should my life already be a waking nightmare?

[sour shadow]

I've had one drop off in the last 2 years

That one had a very poor link to the mesh though, after reconnecting it I've had no problems, and the connection is a lot healthier

[simple sentinel]

Nice. So, barring a faulty device, good mesh conditions make the difference

[sour shadow]

That's my experience

[simple sentinel]

Well that's completely acceptable

[muted crescent]

Morning all (in least in my neck of the woods). Can anyone help me troubleshoot the follwoing errors. I migrated from a Nortek stick to a Conbee 2 and these keep appearing in my logs. Everything "appears" to be working fine.

`Logger: zigpy_deconz.api
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zigpy_deconz/api.py:307
First occurred: January 18, 2021, 7:45:56 PM (5 occurrences)
Last logged: 7:10:32 AM

No response to 'Command.aps_data_indication' command with seq id '0xf3'
No response to 'Command.aps_data_indication' command with seq id '0xc7'
No response to 'Command.aps_data_indication' command with seq id '0x0c'
No response to 'Command.aps_data_indication' command with seq id '0xc1'
No response to 'Command.aps_data_indication' command with seq id '0x8e'`

[hollow token]

hey ho, i have integrate zigbee and add xiaomi aqara devices.. f.e humidity and temperature but they dont update the status (temperature is on 27° hole the time)

[sour shadow]

How did you integrate them?

Hammer and nail?

[hollow token]

i put the CC2534 in the usb port and activate the integrations in hassio

[sour shadow]

"the integration"?

Also

[obsidian sandal]

Hass.io was the old name for the appliance like install option, that uses Docker. It is now simply called Home Assistant OS (see #330990055533576204).

Command '~hassio' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[sour shadow]

There's four or more possible integrations here

[hollow token]

"Zigbee Home Automation"

[sour shadow]

That'll be zha

[hollow token]

thats correct

[obsidian sandal]

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

• Check the troubleshooting steps
• Check your log file - remembering you may need to set logger to info or debug
• Explain what the problem you're having is - sharing configuration, errors, and logs

Command '~troubleshooting' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[quick hare]

Is the zig-a-zig-ah! (Love the name!) a more powerfull option than the Nortek HUSBZB-1 (I believe it has a EM3581 so that would be against the CC2652 from (the zig-a-zig-ah).

[hollow token]

@sour shadow ok let me check

[austere patio]

How long have you waited since you added them? Xiaomi sensors don't send updates very quickly.

[sour shadow]

https://electrolama.com/projects/zig-a-zig-ah/#aside-ti-part-numbers for comparison

[hollow token]

@austere patio 20-30 minutes

[sour shadow]

I think the answer would be probably yes

If the temperature didn't change much in the room, they won't havesent an update

[hollow token]

yeah but a real temperature is ~21° and 27,7 is not less or?

same with the door sensors, aren´t they realtime?

[austere patio]

When the temperature doesn't change, they send an update every ~55 minutes

Blow on it and it should update

[quick hare]

Unfortunately the Nortek have a Silabs chip, not a TI one. 😦 altaugh, I love the comparison list there!

[austere patio]

Anecdotally I feel like the CC2652R can handle more concurrency than the HUSBZB-1

But that may be because the SiLabs firmware is higher-level and does more retrying and such

While the TI firmware doesn't care

And is buggier

[quick hare]

Oh the TI is buggier? 😰

[austere patio]

It has some minor bugs, just like everything

If you're using ZHA then upgrading to a more recent SiLabs coordinator may be a more pleasant experience

[lilac wharf]

My smartthings buttons seem to be eating batteries...I don't get more than like 6 months out of them and I press them once maybe twice a day

[quick hare]

Yeah I am looking at what is best with ZHA at the moment.

[lilac wharf]

Maybe it's the cheap-ass batteries I bought

[molten linden]

@lilac wharf yea that't about what I get

[amber gull]

My Smartthings stuff eats batteries too

[lilac wharf]

Ah really?

[molten linden]

I think it's because they also report temp

[lilac wharf]

Yeah, I was wondering about that

I could go without the temp reporting...

[hollow token]

@austere patio is it possible to send a signal from aqara to the stick by doing anything (manualy) to test it?

[lilac wharf]

Press the button on it if it has one

[hollow token]

shortly?

and doesnt have the stick flash the led all the time?

[lilac wharf]

Press the button on the device, not the stick

[austere patio]

The CC2531 shouldn't have an LED flashing

Only the red one when it forms a network

[hollow token]

Hm ok this works

[lilac wharf]

LED||eez nuts||

[austere patio]

If you're running a recent release of HA and haven't used the CC2531 with HA a long time ago, you can disable the green LED via a config option: https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp#configuration

[verbal shale]

ive merge the ha code with this https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/blob/b12ebc37790af34253fce4a0c549d05a8ffb995c/zhaquirks/tuya/ts0042.py#L25

now I can receive the shortclick event ...finally...but....still missing the Long press and double click

[hollow token]

But the door sensors are not realtime then

So how u solve a Alarm ?

[austere patio]

What do you mean? They send an update when they are triggered.

They're about as realtime as you can get

[hollow token]

Hm that doesnt work

Its always Open

[austere patio]

Do you have the magnet oriented the correct way?

[hollow token]

Yeah its the line on the side

[austere patio]

You should hear a very faint "click" if you bring the magnet closer

[lilac wharf]

A very 🤏 click

[quick hare]

The Elelabs seem’s to have a recent EFR32MG13 compared to the older silicon in the Nortek one. Is it the best coordonator for ZHA? 🙂

[austere patio]

I believe Walt said that it was comparable performance-wise to the CC2652R boards

I'm hoping to sort out the last couple of glitches with the TI stuff in the next few months so I think at that point they'll be comparable in terms of stability, but for now the SiLabs stuff is much more thoroughly tested with ZHA

Though the one benefit of TI over Silabs software-wise is being able to switch to Z2M, since at the moment only ZHA can talk to SiLabs radios

[amber gull]

@quick hare Yes, the Elelabs is the best SiLabs coordinator for ZHA today

[quick hare]

Oh I was sure I saw your name on GitHub now I know from where! 😅 That’s a good argument indeed!

[amber gull]

The EM3581 inside the Nortek was finally dropped from the upcoming Emberzet 6.8 or 6.9 release -- so it's effectively end of life

It's still a great piece of kit, built like a tank, great filtering -- but probably won't last as long as the EFR32 in the Elelabs

[hollow token]

thanks @austere patio

[amber gull]

Hey puds, how many "Watchdog check failed" logs should I expect to see if zstack dies?

[austere patio]

Infinitely many

[amber gull]

fails, tries to re-initiate the stack, watchdog fails again, repeat?

[austere patio]

One every 30s for as long as Z-Stack doesn't reply to pings

No retries unfortunately, there's no way to fix it as far as I can tell from software

But it runs independently of the reconnect stuff so that will still kick in if you reset the port

[amber gull]

Thanks, just setting up my error handling -- guess I will catch it for now, and trigger a uhubctl cycle on the docker host

[austere patio]

So it'll just tell you independently of a request failing due to a timeout that Z-Stack is locked up

Although it triggering a reconnect may be a smarter idea

[amber gull]

Well, works great -- thank you! This will be a nice band aid to let it auto repair itself

[delicate mango]

Guys, what's the best solution for a zigbee coordinator in HA? I've tried Smartthings: stable but delays were high at some moments. Now I use a Sonoff Zigbee Bridge with ZHA and it's not that stable.

[lilac wharf]

USB stick with one of the Zigbee integrations (see topic)

[strange ibex]

6 ZZHs in stock

[lilac wharf]

Heh

[strange ibex]

ValiEne, if you want to trust some random person on the internet, buy https://www.tindie.com/products/electrolama/zzh-cc2652r-multiprotocol-rf-stick/ before it is out of stock

also, I use this for z2m so if you don't, Idk 😛

[lilac wharf]

They should choose a Zigbee integration first and choose a stick from there

[strange ibex]

discord, stop dying on me

[sour shadow]

Though, that one works with ZHA too 😛

[strange ibex]

my discord is dying and I can't type

[sour shadow]

We noticed

[strange ibex]

ahh, good to know tinkerer

[lilac wharf]

Tru

[sour shadow]

Anything supported by z* is a good choice, as then you can chose from the good option, or the better one 😛

[lilac wharf]

Heh

The HUSBZB-1 sucked me in with its dual-protocol goodness

And I hardly use the zwave part lol

[strange ibex]

those 3 devices are solid as fuck though

[lilac wharf]

And now I'm only using it for zwave

Yeah it served me well when I used it as my Zigbee coordinator

[nocturne geyser]

So this is a bit of an embarrassing question
I'm on Vodafone broadband and my WIFI is 5/2.4GHz The channel for 5 auto (36, 40, 44, 48)

And for 2.4 its auto Channel
am i right to believe Conbee/ZHA is meant to be a set channel?

for better connection

[strange ibex]

wifi channels are not the same as zigbee channels

[gentle flint]

Centrlite. You could get a pack of 10 for $5/sensor on ebay at one point. Konke are not bad too. And xiaomis are xiaomis, if you don't find a good parent they will keep dropping

[nocturne geyser]

ooh i like motion sensor gonna look at Centrlite

@gentle flint Konke motion sensor > Aqara motion sensor?

[honest spire]

Hello all, I am using zigbee2mqtt and force removed one device over web ui. Now I want to add again. permit_join: true but nothing in log when i hold or press button on sensor (aqara temperature sensor)

[gentle flint]

I'd prefer anything over xiaomis, cause only Tinkerer have xiamis which don't drop :) but Konke on the other hand only work on channels 15, 20 and 25 which is not a problem, cause those are the channel you probably should be using anyway

[violet dagger]

i also have no droppy xiaomis

[simple sentinel]

Sounds like you need a factory reset

[mellow geode]

I've got both and most of the time, I like the Konke ones better. However, they do seem to have a long blind time (they'll react 1-2 seconds later in my experience). The Xiaomi ones seem really fast (and are also not dropping for me). I really hope we get the T1 Xiaomis soon

[quick hare]

Avoid the IKEA one too. It deep sleep forever and gets unavailable when left without motion for too long.

[gloomy pivot]

good call

I'm thinking of probably aqara

[honest spire]

I tried to google about factory reset, but no results. Any tip how to do it?

[gloomy pivot]

I have been thus far satisfied with their temp/humidity sensors and switches, and they seem pretty solid 👍

somebody mentioned that the next version may have a handful of nice features related to zigbee 3.0, so I may wait on them a bit

[simple sentinel]

It's however many seconds of a paper clip used to press into the little reset hole

[gloomy pivot]

I had one wyze motion sensor go bad this weekend (at least I think so)

[amber gull]

It's been two years at this point though, waiting on TI stuff 😆

[gloomy pivot]

@simple sentinel that's it? I was hoping to be able to change how long they stay triggered

[simple sentinel]

Sorry, that wasn't for you

probably

[gloomy pivot]

oh lolol

[simple sentinel]

didn't read your thing

[gloomy pivot]

no worries

[honest spire]

@simple sentinel Ok, then it's for me 🙂 Are you mean reset button on sensor? I tried to hold until fast blue blinking.. but nothing come in log from zigbee2mqtt.

[simple sentinel]

That should be it for 5 secs

[gloomy pivot]

@quick hare tbf the one in particular I need to replace is my most triggered sensor by far 😅 probably why the wyze one went bad so soon (had it only a few months)

[quick hare]

I’ve warned you. 😆

[gloomy pivot]

I'm with you lol

I don't really like the look of the ikea ones... seems pretty but just another con lol

[lilac wharf]

Yeah, I sold all my Wyze sense stuff. I got pulled in by the low price. Should have just gone Zigbee since I already had a Zigbee network set up...

[simple sentinel]

https://files.miot-global.com/files/manuals updated/Temperature and Humidity Sensor Quick Start Guide.pdf

5 seconds is long reset

or rather reset

5 second long press

[gloomy pivot]

@lilac wharf it's really a bummer because I like their look, price, and integration... they just appear to not be very long-lived 🤦🏽‍♂️

[lilac wharf]

Bought 10 ecolink contact sensors for $40 on eBay and some Sonoff motion sensors

[quick hare]

Huh. I think it’s actually their main argument. The design blend really well with the wall.

[gloomy pivot]

yeah 😅 idk what rubs me wrong on them lol

[lilac wharf]

Although one of my Sonoff motion sensors has shown some false triggers

Unless a bug walked across it maybe

[gloomy pivot]

wish I could nail down this thing with my auroras though 🤦🏽‍♂️

[honest spire]

@simple sentinel Thank you for manual! I tried, nothing in log on zigbee2mqtt. Are I missing something or you mean to hold much more seconds then 5 for factory reset?

[quick hare]

Gotta say, those Blitzwolf water leak detectors are damn good!

[gloomy pivot]

anybody know of some with a keyhole mount instead of double stick tape?

[simple sentinel]

@honest spire Well, that should give you a "fresh" sensor to add.
Of course, if you didn't successfully remove it from z2m, then you may still have problems

I am unfamiliar with what "forced removal" from z2m entails

[honest spire]

@simple sentinel Ok.. I tried to find if left somewhere old sensor.. but not.. not in device.yaml and database.db. Not exist.. but can't add 😦
I have no idea what to check or try more..

[simple sentinel]

I use frontend, so I haven't been to any of those places

[honest spire]

I also removed from frontend.. but when I got issue to add back.. I searched in files...

[simple sentinel]

I guess you could check MQTT explorer; see if it's still there

[honest spire]

good idea, will check now

[simple sentinel]

The device should be something along the lines of 0x00158 etc etc

[honest spire]

it's not there.. and no any reaction on press or hold reset button. I have other 8 devices and one router.. all working good-normal

[simple sentinel]

well, sigh...
Try to permit join on the device closest to the sensor?

I am just throwing things at the wall here

Just to double check, in mqtt you were looking under sensor?
Also there wasn't an orphaned 0x00158 entity that was misplaced somewhere at the root of one of the main topics perhaps?

[honest spire]

yes, I can show you here.

hm.. seems to be restricted image posting here

[simple sentinel]

imgur ftw

[honest spire]

https://imgur.com/a/AYtGYwZ

there is mqtt and web ui

[whole crown]

Not ideal from a "real"perspective, but I'm looking at it from a dev/testing perspective.
Is it possible for a single HA to have both ZHA & mqtt installed?
Is it possible to have the same set of Zigbee devices "registered" under both?

I want to do some mqtt dev, but do not want to tear down my "real" HA system

[amber gull]

You can run both side by side, but not have devices joined to both

[austere patio]

It might work if you copy over the network settings from ZHA into the Z2M config file so that it doesn't break your network

But you won't be able to have both using the same network/stick at the same time

[whole crown]

OK. My ZHA setup is using my Conbee II stick. I've a few others (I'm a dev geek!), which are either TICC25xx clone or a Nordic nRF52840.

If I stuck one of those in, I could run "some" of the Zigbee devices on the mqtt?

[austere patio]

If they're on a separate network sure

[whole crown]

And I imagine as they would all be on the same HA instance, I could still integrate them all?

[austere patio]

Z2M would only be able to use the CC2531s

[whole crown]

So I'd need to "detach" them from ZHA and "attach" them to mqtt?

[austere patio]

Yeah, you'd need to reset them and re-join them to that second network

I think you should be able to just reset the device and join it to Z2M

And then click the "reconfigure" button once you re-join it to ZHA

[whole crown]

Z2M doesn’t support the Nordic ?!

[austere patio]

I don't think anything can use it as a coordinator

(yet)

[whole crown]

OK, so far I’d just used one as a wireshark sniffer

Speaking of which ... if a USB is being used as a coordinator, can it also be used (via the same driver stack) as a sniffer?

[austere patio]

Only SiLabs sticks

TI sticks need new firmware

[whole crown]

And the firmware is not compatible with it being a coordinator?

[austere patio]

No, it's completely separate

[whole crown]

OK

[austere patio]

I've been trying to compile the open source ZBOSS sniffer firmware to work the CC2531 bootloader so that you can flash it over serial but haven't gotten too far with that

So the only way to do it at the moment is via the debug connector and a microcontroller/raspberry pi

[whole crown]

The energy level app you’ve got

Whose name I cannot recall

Is that coordinator compatible?

[austere patio]

Which one?

All of the tools in zigpy_znp, including the network scanner and the channel energy scanner, should work with all TI coordinators and all firmware versions

[whole crown]

Is it TI specific or might it work with any device using a zig bee stack?

[austere patio]

It's not using anything specific to TI, so in theory yes, but some coordinators don't respond well to requests sent to themselves so in practice I think only maybe the SiLabs coordinator will work

I don't have a Conbee to try with so that might work too

But the code right now isn't using zigpy and sends the TI-specific commands directly to the radio so it would have to be rewritten to test that out

[whole crown]

OK

[austere patio]

(https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/issues/557)

[amber gull]

If only it was more like django

[whole crown]

Thanks @austere patio 🙂

[whole crown]

???

[austere patio]

Can't wait for beautiful classes like MultipleObjectTemplateResponseMixin and AdminCommaSeparatedIntegerFieldWidget to start showing up in the zigpy codebase

[quick hare]

Are clients supposed to receive an acknowledgement from the coordinator when they send a change in a cluster (Zone Status Change Notification)? I can see on the ZigBee Application layer my lock sending an acknowledgement to the coordinator when it ask to unlock. But when it comes to clients, it goes only one way (with only ACKs on the physical layer) which only confirm that the next hop is working, so in my mind, the client can’t know if the message was sucessfully delivered or not thru the network. Is this normal? (ZHA)

[amber gull]

It's optional

[austere patio]

Yeah, I believe it's up to the sender to enable ACKs

[amber gull]

Yes, they can request APS layer acks

[austere patio]

I guess for battery operated devices, it's maybe "better" to just successfully relay a message and then shut off the receiver

Instead of waiting for a much longer period of time for the destination to reply and wasting more power

[quick hare]

Oh I see. So (Blitzwolf) decided basically that their (water leak sensor) would just throw it’s message on the network and as long it got a physical ACK, it dosn’t care about the rest? 😅

Ah ok it is something common on battery powered devices?

[austere patio]

I think there's some bit that's flipped in the packet header in Wireshark that asks for an ACK to be sent back

No clue, I'm just guessing. I haven't really looked closely at this stuff.

[quick hare]

I can check that actually.

[honest spire]

@simple sentinel tried near to cordinator, w/out router, near to router.. no chance 😦 thank you for helping.. I have no idea where is problem.. 😦

[quick hare]

I think it’s byte 8 indeed in the ZCL frame. Still checking. 🤔

[simple sentinel]

😦

[quick hare]

Mhhh it seem’s it did ask for it : https://ibb.co/S5vfRLX but ZHA did not reply.

[austere patio]

What does the ZHA+radio library debug log say?

[quick hare]

What is the radio library? 😅 Sorry about that.

Oh you mean to put the radio library to debug in HA?

[austere patio]

Yeah just enable all of em: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#debug-logging

[quick hare]

Got it. @austere patio I’ll check that out a little bit later when I come back. 🙂 Thank you so much for the help!

[vale dirge]

Hello. I have never used zigbee before, and I thought I'd pass by and ask for some advice before buying stuff

I want to update the sensors at home, mostly temperature, smoke, movement sensors, etc. I currently use a bunch of arduino pro mini with 433mhz modules what I programmed and soldered myself, that send information to a rasberry and ultimately transfers data via MQTT and is stored in a database. They have been working pretty well for the last 5 years or so, and the battery life is acceptable too (between 1 and two years for two AA batteries).

But i'm getting lazy, and I don't want to spend the afternoon soldering and programming if I want to add more devices. Also, the range is not great, so there are parts of my house where the sensors don't reach.

So I saw that there are multiple battery-operated devices using the zigbee technology, and they are pretty cheap.

And I saw that there's a zigbee2mqtt project that seems to be what I need.

So my idea would be to buy a zigbee usb receiver (there's a list here: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_adapters.html), and a bunch of commercial temperature sensors (like those from Xiaomi / Aqara).

Does that make any sense?

[sour shadow]

YEs

But see #zigbee-archived message

A bunch of battery devices doesn't create a mesh, and you need a mesh

[vale dirge]

Thanks

i'll read that

[sour shadow]

I have my whole house covered with a handful of router devices and a whole host of battery devices

[vale dirge]

Nice.

So... not only I need a coordinator (which I understand will be the usb "dongle" I will plug to a raspberry pi), but also at least one device that acts as a router, which can be itself another sensor that is plugged into the mains, no?

(like a smart rgb bulb or something like that?)

[sour shadow]

Pretty much

[lilac wharf]

Most mains-powered Zigbee devices act as routers. Some exceptions include Sengled bulbs and most no-neutral switches

[sour shadow]

You'll likely need more than one router though

The Ikea Tradfri repeaters can run on any USB socket

[vale dirge]

aha

[strange ibex]

Since they are about the same price, I use the tradfi smart plugs where possible and the USB shits elsewhere

[vale dirge]

and isn't possible to just start by the coordinator, and three or four sensors?

[sour shadow]

You can do the same with some CC2531 sticks flashed with router firmware, but they have bright LEDs 🤣

Sure, if the range is relatively low - same room or the one next door

[vale dirge]

What about those dongles which have an antenna?

the furthest I plan to receive is about 15 meters, with three walls in between.

Would something like this work?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001808698978.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.44ff5005kbpR88&algo_pvid=9dc0777c-8c47-4743-896c-2e9d8c512cb2&algo_expid=9dc0777c-8c47-4743-896c-2e9d8c512cb2-1&btsid=2100bddf16110926135955487e973a&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

[sour shadow]

No

[obsidian sandal]

The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

Command '~cc253x' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[lilac wharf]

Fits right in any decor

[sour shadow]

If you want to know which stick to buy, see https://electrolama.com/projects/zig-a-zig-ah/#aside-ti-part-numbers - it explains the differences between the chipsets

[sour shadow]

You want one of the newer generation chips, nothing else

[violet dagger]

technically you should first decide on what integration you want

[sour shadow]

They did 😉

<#zigbee-archived message>

[lilac wharf]

[violet dagger]

wise person

[vale dirge]

what do people with little technicall skills use zigbee devices?

so you buy a hub and some devices from ikea or something

[sour shadow]

They buy a hub and suffer from a lack of choice

[vale dirge]

where do you plug them? where do you configure them?

[sour shadow]

What? The hub?

[vale dirge]

are you limited to a phone app, or using alexa?

yes, I don't know

[sour shadow]

Well, it depends on how you're doing this

There's no single answer

[vale dirge]

I suppose you have to stick to a single brand, due to incompatibilities, or some features that are not shared between brands

[sour shadow]

Mostly, yes, but it depends on the hub

Where with Zigbee2MQTT you can use almost anything

[vale dirge]

Well, that's my idea. If I get it working with mqtt, then I can do whatever I want with it

So, back to the "stick", a CC2652R* chip is recommended

[violet dagger]

they buy hue, then curse hue for being hue but its too late since they bought in at a high price 😛

[sour shadow]

Yeah, buy the Zig-A-Zig-Ah! or Slaesh stick

[vale dirge]

Ok

What would happen if I got one of these cheap chinese ones?

[sour shadow]

You'd have a shitty experience 😉

#zigbee-archived message

[vale dirge]

Less range? fewer features? unstable?

[sour shadow]

Have a read of https://electrolama.com/projects/zig-a-zig-ah/#aside-ti-part-numbers

Basically, it's old, underpowered and underspecified

[vale dirge]

Yes, i read that, but it only mentions the specs.. and yes, higher numbers are better, but I don't know how that translates to real life

ok

[sour shadow]

Think of the difference between a car made 40 years ago, and one made today...

[vale dirge]

Ok, so if I get this, for instance, it should be fine: https://slae.sh/projects/cc2652/

[sour shadow]

Yup

[vale dirge]

Do I need pin headers?

[sour shadow]

That and the ZZH are to all intents identical

No

[vale dirge]

Will I need to change the firmware or something using an external device or something?

[sour shadow]

Nope

[vale dirge]

(I see that you can chose it to be already flashed with mqtt)

[sour shadow]

It can be flashed without any other hardware

[vale dirge]

Ok

[sour shadow]

You'll also want a short (50cm to 2 meter) USB extension cable to move it away from the noise of the PC

[vale dirge]

Oh, ok

I think I have a few of them in a box

[sour shadow]

That also likely means you want the Type 4 antenna

[vale dirge]

cables are not a problem

I think I also have a big antenna with a SMA connector, it might work, but yes, I'd get the largest they offer, just in case

[sour shadow]

Well, as long as that's a 2.4 GHz antenna it'd be fine

[vale dirge]

True

Mmm, 40,7€. Shipping is not cheap...

[sour shadow]

https://www.tindie.com/products/electrolama/zzh-cc2652r-multiprotocol-rf-stick/ is the other option, likely also not cheap

Ah, sold out again 😄

[vale dirge]

Let's see

haha

Ok, so I'll get the one from slae.sh.

About the "router" device. Can that stick work as a router as well, or do I need something separate?

[sour shadow]

You need other devices - the stick is the coordinator

I bought one of https://zigbee2mqtt.discourse.group/t/ad-buy-ready2use-zigbee2mqtt-stick-flashed-antenna-mod-and-printed-case/22/6 - not cheap, but it gave me a router I could slap into any USB power source

It actually provides coverage of my whole upstairs, and a good chunk of downstairs

[vale dirge]

Can't the stick also work as a router internally? I don't understand why the end devices cannot connect directly to it.

[simple sentinel]

devices can connect, you would want a router to extend the range; if the big antenna doesn't cover your whole living space

[vale dirge]

Oh ok ok, so for starters, the coordinator and a sensor that is not too far away can talk to each other, and routers can extend the range

[strange ibex]

They will and do connect directly to the coordinator. If you only have a single coordinator and a bunch of end devices, that is not a mesh. You sort of need additional routers to help bounce 'er around to your end devices.

yes, Neuro

[vale dirge]

Ok ok. Yes, i see the benefits of a mesh, but I was trying to figure out the simplest case scenario

[simple sentinel]

Add some zigbee lightbulbs around the house, and that will help the mesh as well

plus give you light

[vale dirge]

nice

are there battery powered motion sensors?

[simple sentinel]

most of them are, afaik

[vale dirge]

ok

I tried to make one with arduino some time ago, to log when my cat ate, but the battery life wasn't great, like a month or so.

Anyway, thanks for the help! I think I understand better how these devices work now

[simple sentinel]

zigbee is good fun, enjoy

[vale dirge]

Thanks!

[restive elbow]

Got my aoara mini button today. What an amazing little thing when paired with hass. I have it toggling lights in the living area and long press for movie mode

[graceful elm]

Are there any commercial zigbee devices with a temperature probe? I haven't found anything, but thought it was worth asking before I build something. Got a new deep freeze and want to monitor it.

[gentle flint]

Need to ask Tube to solder some wires to Xiaomi temp sensor 🙂

[tropic depot]

Whoa look who is back

[strange ibex]

Dad?

[graceful elm]

You know, I figure I should stop by once a year or so

[molten linden]

hey I haven't messed with temp sensors yet..

[amber gull]

FrankenProbe? 😂

[molten linden]

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-stare-staring-arisen-revived-gif-6200073

[rapid wadi]

A few weeks ago someone mentioned using ewelink s003s as routers. Mine arrived - so far, signal strength/range seems pretty low compared to xiaomi (to the point that getting them on the network seems tough)

[jolly quest]

As a rookie, not sure does this belong here, but if not please advice. I'd like to config (enable_uart=1 +
dtoverlay=pi3-disable-bt) my Raspbee II on my system, but I'm unsure should I use USB stick method or something else for this config.txt method. Advice anyone?

[sour shadow]

That sounds like you're running #330990055533576204

They'd be able to tell you which, if either, is better - but I'd expect that the result is the same

[pliant breach]

Hi guys, I have a problem updating my Danfoss Ally eTRV through Deconz on my Raspberry Pi 3b+ with a Conbee II attached. The thermostat works just fine and all that, but I cannot figure out how to update it.

I need to put the .ota-file into the otau-folder in deCONZ, but it seems to be an entirely different system than HA on my Pi.

In short; I cannot figure out how or where to put the damn ota-file. Any ideas? Cheers!

[spare horizon]

Hello, I am trying to implement a quirk for Saswell SEA801-Z01 TRV (Radiator Thermostat), as per support request https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/727

However the tuya valve.py file never shows as been compared when accing the device. I think this is because the valve sets the 'Manufacturer=None', therefore where do I add the quirk so it can be accessed?

The valve is basically a clone and has the output clusters reversed compared to the 'class MoesHY368(TuyaThermostat)' entry

[verbal shale]

it finally arrives, now I think there is no integration for this in zha or deconz

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534478791159054346/801411062875422720/20210120_112107.jpg

[mellow geode]

If it's Zigbee 3.0, it should just work in ZHA.

Looks like a Tuya module

[verbal shale]

@mellow geode the inegrations need to exists in zha

[mellow geode]

Integrations are for Home Assistant. ZHA is an integration for example. ZHA only uses the zha quirks library for devices which don’t follow zcl spec.

Many devices don’t need an extra quirk.

[verbal shale]

its a tuya device, soo, problably dont follow the zcl spec

[mellow geode]

The sensors need quirks must of the time but at least plugs and relays seem to be fine. The other day a couple of BlitzWolf branded Tuya plugs arrived and they worked just fine (with power measuring) out of the box.

[verbal shale]

look

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Moes_MS-104BZ.html

it says it is only compatible with TASMOTA ZIGBEE2MQTT

[violet dagger]

did you pair it with zha?

[verbal shale]

only tonight i will do it 😮

[violet dagger]

so you're speculating that it won't work? 🤔

[verbal shale]

just follow the https://zigbee.blakadder.com

what is right there

lol

[violet dagger]

what is there exactly? please elaborate

does it say it doesn't work with ZHA?

[verbal shale]

it dont say its compatible with zha

?!

[mellow geode]

Yeah, it doesn't say it's not compatible though.
Nobody confirmed it's working with ZHA, yet.

[verbal shale]

if is not there im assuming that dont work

[mellow geode]

Yeah, that's a wrong assumption then.

[verbal shale]

oh

[violet dagger]

keep on assuming then, not a good way to live imho

[mellow geode]

I have many devices which don't require any quirks and are also not listed "Confirmed working with ZHA". Hopefully I get around to PR-ing updates to the site ^^

[verbal shale]

ok, my mistake then.....but....i'm not the only one assuming this in some groups and foruns...most people are loking to this list to see what they should buy

lol

[violet dagger]

you should get to PRing because some people...

if its not confirmed working its a schrodingers zigbee device until it is confirmed 😄

[verbal shale]

ok ok, nice that I was wrong

😄

[mellow geode]

Well, it's a good place to start. ZHA (unlike Z2M) doesn't require every device to be registered, as it assumes the device will follow spec and just work.
Z2M requires every device to be specifically registered with any "quirks" that it might have.

[violet dagger]

@mellow geode you can simply send me zigbee modelid's and i can do the update

i think there was some export function for that too but i don't know if its in the normal ZHA release

[verbal shale]

@violet dagger thanks.

[golden vessel]

I've seen many people assuming that too. Anda also some saying "z2m is better because that site says it supports more devices!", while the truth is exactly the opposite: ZHA should support pretty much any device that is spec-compliant

[spare horizon]

I've had better luck with ZHA apart from this TRV, everything else just worked for me!

[orchid mural]

Hi do anyone know how to acces the old webui in deCONZ, i click it and it just open the same interface in a new window

Old WebApp version
Open Wireless Light Control (2016)

[spare horizon]

In the log i see unknown cluster 61184, anyone have any ideas?

[woven trench]

So I switch over from DeCONZ to ZHA and discovered all the temperature attributes reported from my Aqara motion sensors and vibration sensors no longer show up. Now granted knowing the temperature of my mail from one of the vibration sensors is more amusing than practical, the motion sensors scattered around the property did serve a purpose.
Is there some way I can get this back?

[verbal shale]

@violet dagger Can I recomment you to putit like NotTested Icon over integration Icon when Its not tested?

[violet dagger]

what do you mean by that?

[verbal shale]

because of that @violet dagger

[violet dagger]

you still didn't elaborate on what do you mean by that

[primal ibex]

Is there a "Zigbee Repeater/Extender" device?
And I don't mean a device which also is an AP but rather just like a WiFi repeater/Extender..

[lilac wharf]

Most mains-powered Zigbee devices act as routers

Exceptions include Sengled bulbs and most no-neutral switches

[woven trench]

I've never seen one, and I've looked. I just use a Zigbee type plug-in outlet for range extending and it works just dandy.

[lilac wharf]

Ikea makes a dedicated Zigbee repeater

[violet dagger]

there's a couple "commercial", most are diy

[primal ibex]

Really? Can't find any

[violet dagger]

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/routers

[lilac wharf]

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tradfri-signal-repeater-30400407/

[primal ibex]

Will go with a socket plug I guess.. Will look for the cheapest in this case 😉

[gentle fern]

Hi all. Just trying to pair an ikea tradfri bulb with my sonoff zbbridge and ZHA. Bulb is pulsing (in pairing mode), ZHA is searching, nothing is showing up. Any tips on how to fix/debug?

[woven trench]

turn the bulb off and then on again one more time

[gentle fern]

So get it in to pairing mode, start ZHA searching, then turn the bulb off and on again?

[woven trench]

yeah, I've had to do that occassionally with all kinds of different bulbs.

but put ZHA in pairing mode before you turn the light back on.

[gentle fern]

The bulb's not even pulsing now

[woven trench]

then I go back to the sequence of turning the bulb off/on a dozen times quickly and starting over.

[gentle fern]

Still no joy

Nothing showing in the logs

[woven trench]

sometimes I have to do this with a desk lamp right next the the zigbee transceiver

[gentle fern]

Yeah, I made sure the receiver is within about 4 inches of the bulb

[woven trench]

I am out of ideas

[gentle fern]

Is it possible to use one of the controls to pair the bulbs, a-la the ikea app?

[woven trench]

probably not. when I have moved stuff from one system to another, I've had to do the on/off many time shuffle to reset everything.

[chrome ocean]

@gentle fern what bridge are you using?

[gentle fern]

Sonoff snzb-01

[chrome ocean]

flashed with tasmota? I had the same issue with some of my ikea bulbs or other devices.

snzb-01 is the switch not the bridge

the only thing that helped me with the sonoff bridge : restart everything. Remove the bulb and delete the db. Restart again and keep trying

for some reason the sonoff devices (Bridge, switch, PIR) can be a little bit of pain to get working.

@primal ibex why not use a smart plug to extend the range?

[primal ibex]

Guess that what I will do.. got a recommended one? :)

[lilac wharf]

The trådfri ones are good but they're also huge

[primal ibex]

Prefer something from aliexpress..

[lilac wharf]

🆗

[mellow geode]

The BlitzWolf ones seem to be nice (BW-SHP13) (there are also WiFi models and you don't want those)

They are EU plugs

[lilac wharf]

Yeah we'd need to know where you live

[gentle fern]

@chrome ocean The sonoff stuff has been spot on for me (and yeah, I meant the bridge not switch). It's flashed with tasmota then enabled for ZHA. All my sensors pair fine, sonoff or tradfri. But the one bulb I've tried refuses to be seen

[golden vessel]

I think the intent is to show your visitors that the device was not tested with ZHA/Z2M/Deconz, instead of not supported. So instead of people thinking "ZHA is not here, so this device does not work there", they think "ok, no one tested, but it may work"

[chrome ocean]

I am using the Osram Smart Plug+. But pretty much any smart plug will extend you network and you can use the outlet

[chrome ocean]

lucky you 😉 I had to switch away from the sonoff bridge since it had a lot of issues. The only thing that worked for me with devices that will not show up is to repeat the cycle a bunch of time. Up to 15 in the worst case

[gentle fern]

:/ That is not ideal

[chrome ocean]

no at all. try that with 50 devices after you reset everything and tell you wife it will work again 😄

what do you see in the tasmota consol if you start the pairing process?

[violet dagger]

@golden vessel so i should put that it probably works with zha but there's a chance it might not?

[woven trench]

other than I can no longer see the temperature of my mail... yes, ZHA works where others don't seem to.

[golden vessel]

@violet dagger not sure what would be the best way. Maybe add a "*May also work with ZHA", bellow the "Confirmed working with:", with a link explaining that devices that implement Zigbee correctly work out of the box with ZHA?

[violet dagger]

I'll be polite and just say no

[golden vessel]

why would you be impolite? lol

[austere patio]

I mean it is misleading

Not wrong, since "Confirmed working with" is true, but most of the device database being based on Z2M and its requirement to explicitly support devices kinda gives the impression that ZHA doesn't support much

Do you pull in model/manufacturer info from https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/ ?

[lilac wharf]

to be fair, the ZHA docs do state this: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#knowing-which-devices-are-supported

[austere patio]

Since when do people exhaustively read all available documentation?

[lilac wharf]

i'd assume almost never. perhaps that part needs to be moved up

[golden vessel]

yep. that is why I was suggesting making it more obvious in blakadder website. but apparently my suggestion was somehow offensive?

[fathom viper]

Is there some working way to reset phoscon password?
I cant access it with pass I was always using and password reset button doesn't work (tried right after restarting integration and after rebooting raspi)

[dry fossil]

Not mentioning it is as good as 'might work, might not'. What you have already isn't a problem 🤷‍♂️

[orchid mural]

Is there anybody there have any experiance with the IKEA fyrtur blinds, currently i can't get them working they worked last night but not now, i'm running conbee II and deCONZ

[violet dagger]

It's not on my site to explain how zha works. If someone cant the bothered to read a page or two about how ZHA works but seems very passionate about me doing that work for them he might be better served not even using my site

[raven chasm]

@half mountain is this the correct setup ```mqtt:
broker: 192.168.1.33
discovery: true

[obsidian sandal]

https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/mqtt/
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/mqtt/
https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/categories/mqtt/

Command '.mqtt' was invoked by: Tediore

[lilac wharf]

Or set it up at configuration > integrations @raven chasm

[half mountain]

mqtt:
  discovery: true
  broker: 192.168.1.33
  birth_message:
    topic: 'hass/status'
    payload: 'online'
  will_message:
    topic: 'hass/status'
    payload: 'offline' 

You might need the birth and last will part

[strange ibex]

It does by default

[half mountain]

Try to send an mqtt message using the mqtt.publish service in the developer tools

And look at the mosquitto logs in your other instance to see if it shows up

[orchid mural]

I don't know what's happening, i have one that is responding and three that aren't

[half mountain]

That way you can rule out an MQTT issue and start checking Z2M

[cold gorge]

I did some digging around and it seems a bit difficult to start color effects over zigbee using standard ZCL 😓

Tuya uses those custom commands such that you need quirks

And I most like won't get zha/Z2M that far to include quirks just for my project

[golden vessel]

what project?

[cold gorge]

I'm trying to build an own zigbee rgb led strip controller

For addressable leds

But I want to have effects for different colors on different leds

[amber gull]

Does scenes buy you anything?

[cold gorge]

Hmm maybe I can misuse them

It's also not a good idea to create an endpoint for each led 😜

[amber gull]

I have never dug on the color stuff so I don't have much helpful to add -- but I think that is how IKEA works, with ZLL scenes

[cold gorge]

Hmm I will look if I can find something

Okayokay I'm building a zigbee Nanoleaf version, so I need 30/50 leafs with funny effects

[orchid mural]

I hope someone can help, i had setup my conbee and deconz and it worked, i added four Fyrtur roller blinds last night, they where working this morning. and now at lost a lot of sensors on the net it dropped from 86 to 46 nodes on the network....

[golden vessel]

Could you expose each led individually? Like two gang switches expose two relays

And use scenes for effects over multiple leds

[amber gull]

Having seen the wifi versions, it seems a like a super challenging use case

[dry fossil]

Wirelessly controlled lighting with animations seems like a job for WLED (or similar).

[orchid mural]

so i'm completely at a lost, here lost a lot of devices in my zgibee network, some are coming back, others seems to here "online" but are uncontrollable? anyone there can help?

[raven chasm]

@half mountain I was able to successfully publish from my mqtt broker, but I see a few issues. 1) I was only able to publish on port 1883. 2) I was only able to see what I had published by using MQTT explorer, not my other machine which mean I still need to some configuring.

[chrome ocean]

I guess you tried restarting HA but did You also reboot the host system?

[orchid mural]

both yes 😄

[lilac wharf]

@raven chasm should be as simple as

1. Set up an MQTT broker
2. Connect to the broker from HA with username/password if set

[dry fossil]

3. ????

[orchid mural]

i got my blinds back by repairing them.... and it seems like my sensors are coming when they get updated...... Have no idea on what going on.

[lilac wharf]

And then set up whatever other clients

4. Profit

[chrome ocean]

Since I saw you have been using conbee2 for a while I'm guessing you did not use a usb3 port...mhhh.

[orchid mural]

Nope, all new, just moved from the hue and xiaomi hub..... but as far as i know the respbarry pi 3b+ dont have usb 3..... but i'm gonna check up on that now...

nope the 3b+ don't usb3

[raven chasm]

I understand that it may seem so simple for some, but unfortunately I am struggling a bit. I have read the guides a few times and they are not helping. so how to I begin to publish the state of my device to my broker?

[lilac wharf]

Zigbee2mqtt?

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/getting_started/running_zigbee2mqtt.html#3-configuring
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/integration/home_assistant.html

[chrome ocean]

@orchid mural I remember that I had a similar issue the first time. But I don't remember what I did. I did end up deleting deconz, resetting and starting new. Since then I had now issues. Do you see any errors in the logs when you increase the log level?

*no issues

[orchid mural]

as far as i could see there where no errors, but didn't check of curse before i had the issue only after i had tried restarting a couple of times....

[chrome ocean]

The devices that are online but cannot be controlled : is that only from the HA ui? Can you controll them from phoscon or deconz?

[orchid mural]

nope it's seems to be everywhere....

[chrome ocean]

Are those devices with good coverage?

[orchid mural]

okay now it happend again!!!!!! but this time i kinda know what happende..... by mistake i closed deconz, which would be the same as a restart i did. And now nothing is working again.....

down to 44 nodes from 86 again....

[chrome ocean]

Very strange. Will test it on my system. How did you close it exactly?

[orchid mural]

are you also running conbee and deconz.

[chrome ocean]

Yes

Conbee2 and deconz

[orchid mural]

went into the addon chose open web ui, chose deconz and clicked file quit

[chrome ocean]

Ok i never did that ;) let me backup first . One moment

[orchid mural]

and i think it fist the bill, as i did set the network port in order to access deconz directly which i think would be the same as quiting...

[chrome ocean]

Ok so I tried what you just did and nothing bad happened 😅 so I cannot reproduce the issue. Why would you choose the file quit option? I always just change to different ui. I don't think restarting has the same effect since the containers are shut down in a right way.

[orchid mural]

yeah it was a mistake 😄

but it seems like the sensors are coming back, as soon as they have an update....

but all my rollerblinds are now dead, and last i had to repair then in order to get them back...

[cold gorge]

So Hue has this Hue Labs with all kind of funny effects, but is it the gateway that is continuously controlling the light bulbs?

[strange ibex]

The apps do the effects. The bulb does on/off with transitions and such. They only have "colorloop" and "random" built in

[cold gorge]

Ah okay

[strange ibex]

the apps just say, transition from this color to this color and Hue has the functionality to do the transition but not much else

[cold gorge]

so the app is continuously setting the color, brightness and move things and such?

[strange ibex]

yep

[cold gorge]

That will make it hard to transfer it to lets say ZHA/deConz/Z2M

Well, I'm afraid that I will have to use wifi after all for my application😢

[simple sentinel]

https://github.com/hass-emulated-hue/core

[strange ibex]

if you expose each leaf as a light, you could use the above

[cold gorge]

hmmm true

'new device found; 50 light bubs added to HA' 😛

[strange ibex]

yeah, you would need a better coordinator and even then not might not be great

[austere patio]

There's nothing too horrible about manufacturer-specific commands. Just as long as you write the quirks 😝

[strange ibex]

better, not comparing what you have now. just a decent one

wifi in my opinion would be the coolest for leafs but I know you really wanted to prod around with zigbee :p

[cold gorge]

I guess its not that easy to add a quirk without recompiling and such

[cold gorge]

Gehehe, maybe It's after all better to reconsider my wish for zigbee and take my defeat

[orchid mural]

Do you know if you can "ping" a device in order to force an update, it seems like one rollerblind connects fine but the last three dont'

[cold gorge]

I go to sleep

[raven chasm]

okay so I got zigbee2mqtt added and setup, but i am getting this error https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ym4NFNfWnR/

[strange ibex]

cannot open /dev/ttyACM0'

[lilac wharf]

Device path is wrong

[chrome ocean]

I think zigbee2mqtt has an option but I never looked for it with deconz

Do you see the 3 devices in the deconz network map

[orchid mural]

would it be okay if i dm'd you dirrectly...

[chrome ocean]

There you can click the read network address or something I think that should try to update

[chrome ocean]

Sure

[raven chasm]

okay so I have addressed the device path error, but I am still getting an error message https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q2tcHGHVSx/

[verbal shale]

hi

how to pair this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534478791159054346/801411062875422720/20210120_112107.jpg

in zha???

um cncelho, nao usem os grupos do zigbee no zha

lixoume tudo

estou a fazer as reconecções todas outra vez

[raven chasm]

Anyone able to help e sort out what I am seeing in my error log?

[strange ibex]

Are you sure you are actually writing to your coordinator and not another device?

[raven chasm]

confirmed it in my config.yaml file ```zha:

usb_path: /dev/ttyUSB1

database_path: /config/zigbee.db ```

[strange ibex]

okay, you confused me. sorry

I have no idea what you're doing once I see that

[raven chasm]

I shared that to show you that I have the correct device path. which was an issue you pointed out in my first set of error log.

[strange ibex]

You were talking about zigbee2mqtt and then I see zha config

[raven chasm]

lol

yes still working on zigbee2mqtt

[strange ibex]

why are you showing me a zha config to say it is the correct path?

what coordinator are you trying to use? I should have asked that before.

[raven chasm]

here is my configuration file https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tFMsxhKgVM/

coordinator?

[verbal shale]

@violet dagger I can confirme that works fine in zha

[austere patio]

Run ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/

[violet dagger]

what works fine in zha?

[wintry horizon]

im getting this error while trying to flash my electrolama (node:18700) Electron: Loading non-context-aware native module in renderer: '\\?\C:\Users\ryant\AppData\Local\Programs\Microsoft VS Code\resources\app\node_modules.asar.unpacked\vscode-sqlite3\build\Release\sqlite.node'. This is deprecated, see https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/18397. anyone know what would fix this?