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dry fossil
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The last error in your paste suggests it can't even find the version of zigpy-zigate that it's looking for, which suggests it's not published at that version number.

junior seal
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weird. That is what I installed manually later, it found it alright, the earlier problems were related to compilation of rpi.gpio module (or something similar)

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is there a way to add integrations from console/config file, not from web interface?

dry fossil
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I don't use ZHA, so I'm not familiar with configuring it. There's usually a few folk around that know it well.

austere patio
junior seal
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OMG! I LITERALLY CAN'T!

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did a restart and tried again

lilac wharf
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how did you install home assistant

dry fossil
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Carefully

old kernel
lilac wharf
junior seal
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@lilac wharf venv

austere patio
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The best way

lilac wharf
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false, docker is best boi

junior seal
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I disagree

austere patio
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Well I prefer to fix issues for hours before getting anything working

dry fossil
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I'll take back my shock at running random commands now then. If you're using a venv, do whatever you want 🀣

lilac wharf
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πŸ˜‚

junior seal
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back in my days, venv was the only way to run things

austere patio
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Still is

lilac wharf
austere patio
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Docker makes it too easy

junior seal
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I actively refuse to have naything to do with docker

lilac wharf
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why lol

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i mean, that's fine, you do you

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just curious

junior seal
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seems like a hassle

lilac wharf
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it's the opposite of a hassle if you use docker-compose tbh

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what version of HA are you running?

old kernel
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docker is designed to make things easier, and repeatable, so we stop having the 'well it works on my machine' problem... but i guess learning it is a hassle?

lilac wharf
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maybe. learning the basics isn't terribly difficult though

austere patio
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I prefer having my "usual" environment available when working inside of containers and not having to deal with mounting stuff

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But for complex setups or one-off environments docker is nice

lilac wharf
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not sure when that was fixed

junior seal
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thanks, gonna look into it, but I think I'm done for today, thanks for help

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tbh they seem super overhyped, and I hate overhyped stuff

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plus you clutter low-power pc with virtual machine overheads, which seems wrong

lilac wharf
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|| or switch to docker and see all your dreams come true ✨ ||

junior seal
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but what do I know

lilac wharf
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docker containers aren't VMs

junior seal
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yeah yeah, heard that before

lilac wharf
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there's hardly any overhead with containers

junior seal
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when I someday get new hw I might try it

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for now, I'm happy with venv

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seems like a proper way to manage it anyway

lilac wharf
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matter of preference really

austere patio
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Enjoy your 0.1% Docker overhead 😎

junior seal
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anyways, after adding the devices via conbee in web interface, do I need to set something up? it looks like the devices are not updating (unless they update like once in 10 minutes)

lilac wharf
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it's nice to not need to upgrade python every year

junior seal
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what's so hard about it

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few minutes of bash-foo

lilac wharf
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nothing, but it's nice to not need to do it

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docker makes autostart dead simple too, no need to create a systemd service

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not like that's difficult either, but still

junior seal
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anyways, thanks for help, and I see you tomorrow with some new issues

golden vessel
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been using docker since the times I was using an rpi2! it is not a VM. there's pretty much no overhead on CPU or ram.

amber gull
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My docker python seems faster then my bare metal python πŸ€ͺ

austere patio
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I need to try this

orchid mural
fossil jasper
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Hi all,
Im trying to create my first automation, basically is when i press button 1 of one tadfri remote (ikea) (connected with deconz) so light on a certain light.
i think i create everything ok with the gui, if i press "execute" the automation works, but when i press the buttons on remote it doesnt work, i would like to know if its possible to check if theres a way to check that the pressed button "arrives" to HA at least..
i can see the battery level of the tradfri remote.
im trying to debug whats happening.
heres my automation code: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rjz5CKswfb/
Thank you so much for your help.
btw:
Home Assistant 2021.1.1
type: Supervised

orchid mural
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okay so got switch to work, with some epic help from puddly, and got the one hue bulb working, now i tried adding another this time a color bulb, and that ones get's dicovered with

unk_model by unk_manufacturer
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how do i fix that, it's the second time tried, it also seems like the bulb is responding a little weired because of that.

mighty river
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Hi guys, I've been doing great for a year using conbee II + ZHA but for some reason it is giving me a lot of trouble lately... it's the third time this month that I change something in my configuration.yaml and, after a restart, all zigbee devices show up as usually but they don't react

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I'm open to get rid of conbee.. which is the best/most stable zigbee network setup?

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mqtt + zzh?

sour shadow
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I've had no issues with Zigbee2MQTT and ZZH

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I can restart either HA or Z2M and everything comes back up

mighty river
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I heard good things about that setup

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how can I find it in amazon?

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should I buy an antena?

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is there an noob tutorial to get it working?

dry fossil
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The product and the guide.

sour shadow
mighty river
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thanks a lot, I'll check that out

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is it newbie proof?

dry fossil
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Nothing is newbie proof. You just become less of a newbie over time πŸ˜‰

mighty river
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πŸ˜„

thorny phoenix
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morning. the lenght of usb cable matters to extend the controller?

dry fossil
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At least 10m

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Naw... 50-100cm is enough. Just to get the controller away from interference.

thorny phoenix
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10 m...hm...i can put it in my neighbour appartment then

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:)))

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i cannot make my ikea bulbs to be friends with cc2531

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even sitting in pairing mode at 20 cm from controller

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saw somewhere that usb 3.0 is not very recommended to host usb controller zigbee. true or false?

dry fossil
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True. Bad interference from USB 3.0 controllers.

thorny phoenix
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ok...so a cable and move to usb 2.0 😦

mighty river
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and do you guys have shiaomi devices in your network?

dry fossil
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Xiaomi? Yes, lots of people use them.

mighty river
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xiaomi*

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in your ZZH + zigbee2mqtt networks I mean

dry fossil
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Yes... lots of people πŸ˜‰

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Xiaomi are one of the most popular brands.

mighty river
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and the network is still reliable.. I see..

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yes, I'm definetely moving

dry fossil
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Kinda. They don't always move to a better router when they have bad signal... but that's about it.

mighty river
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what are your thoughts about CC2531?

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it's not because it's cheaper, it's because I can't find the other in Amazon

violet dagger
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i thought you were trying to upgrade your network not downgrade

mighty river
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I don't know what I'm talking about.. that's why I'm asking...

proper tangle
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I keep getting this error when trying to change the target temperature on my radiator valve thermostat

Publish 'set' 'occupied_heating_setpoint' to 'Bedroom TRV' failed: 'Error: Write 0xccccccfffe1da77b/1 hvacThermostat({"occupiedHeatingSetpoint":2350}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null}) failed (Data request failed with error: 'No network route' (205))'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload '{"message":"Publish 'set' 'occupied_heating_setpoint' to 'Bedroom TRV' failed: 'Error: Write 0xccccccfffe1da77b/1 hvacThermostat({\"occupiedHeatingSetpoint\":2350}, {\"timeout\":10000,\"disableResponse\":false,\"disableRecovery\":false,\"disableDefaultResponse\":true,\"direction\":0,\"srcEndpoint\":null,\"reservedBits\":0,\"manufacturerCode\":null,\"transactionSequenceNumber\":null}) failed (Data request failed with error: 'No network route' (205))'","meta":{"friendly_name":"Bedroom TRV"},"type":"zigbee_publish_error"}'
mighty river
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is there any alternative to CC2652R that is just as good?

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or better?

dry fossil
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Data request failed with error: 'No network route'
Re-pair it and try again.

proper tangle
dry fossil
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Well that's a list but doesn't answer the question of which are best...

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The first two on that list are currently your best options, Obaldius. Good value for money and very powerful.

mighty river
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I appreciate

proper tangle
dry fossil
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If it keeps losing its route, it's either a crappy device or you don't have a router nearby.

mighty river
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thanks a lot guys! have a good day

orchid mural
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Had a lot of troubles connecting my xiaomi button which puddly helped make a patch for, but also tried moving two hue bulbs, and that also gave troubles with ZHA not discovering the bulbs properly, and new it seems some trouble updating the states...

orchid mural
sour shadow
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It won't hurt

orchid mural
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what is the max length of that would be recommended?

dry fossil
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I gave a length...

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You're answering my suggestion with a question that the suggestion answered πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

orchid mural
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well not exactly i'm asking what a max length that would recommended would be? as i think i have 2 m wire laying around, but i that is to long.

dry fossil
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I gave a range. A minimum and maximum.

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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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Less than 50cm is pointless. More than 100cm and you're probably going to have power issues.

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Of course, feel free to use a 1km USB cable, just be sure to use power/signal boosters at regular intervals.

orchid mural
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sorry but i'm just asking a simple question because i don't about it, why do you have to be so salty around it?

dry fossil
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No-one's 'salty'.

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The question had been answered.

sour shadow
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I have a one meter cable, and a good quality 2 meter cable. Both work fine, though I knew there was a risk that the 2 meter one wouldn't.

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Your experience may vary, because of the choice of cable, or other factors

dry fossil
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Please appreciate that we see the same simple questions a lot. It's okay when it's different people or they haven't seen the answer.

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When you're literally replying to the answer to ask the same question, it's a wee bit frustrating.

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🀏

sour shadow
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Like the people that reply are you sure

orchid mural
light charm
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Do people here have Blitzwolf BW-SHP13 linked with ZHA?

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On the internet i read about support for almost everything except ZHA

grave ledge
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Hello guy's. I wonder if is possible to make a script in HA to reboot sonoff zigbee bridge

sour shadow
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Does the bridge have an API or way of rebooting it remotely?

grave ledge
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If i type ip adress from the bridge like this http://zigbee bridge ip/?res=
Bridge will reboot

sour shadow
grave ledge
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Sorry i didn't understand

sour shadow
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Integrations are how HA connects to services/devices/whatever

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That channel can help you identify and configure the relevant one

grave ledge
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Ok thanks πŸ‘

obsidian sandalBOT
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@potent sail Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://hasteb.in/, https://paste.ubuntu.com/, or others.

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

Command '~codewall' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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Looks like zha with a Conbee?

potent sail
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Apologies Tinkerer, but I thought my codewall was 12 lines.. I just recounted 😯

ashen coral
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It's not just code. It's every line in a message.

sour shadow
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Your text was over 15 πŸ˜‰

potent sail
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ahhhh ... clear

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my bad

sour shadow
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Otherwise, what'd stop folks posting 300 lines with short little blocks πŸ˜‰

potent sail
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makes sense

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but yes, zha with a Conbee

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this is a familiar problem?

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it was all working swimmingly until 2021.x

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Just migrated my 70+ devices from Deconz to ZHA.. starting to feel I made a mistake 😣

fossil jasper
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Hi all,
Im trying to create my first automation, basically is when i press button 1 of one tadfri remote (ikea) (connected with deconz) so light on a certain light.
i think i create everything ok with the gui, if i press "execute" the automation works, but when i press the buttons on remote it doesnt work, i would like to know if its possible to check if theres a way to check that the pressed button "arrives" to HA at least..
i can see the battery level of the tradfri remote.
im trying to debug whats happening.
heres my automation code: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rjz5CKswfb/
Thank you so much for your help.
btw:
Home Assistant 2021.1.1
type: Supervised

ashen coral
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Go to /developer-tools/event. Type deconz_event into the "Event to subscribe to" box and press "Start Listening"

fossil jasper
mighty river
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i'm having a lot of issues with zigbee devices become unavailable using a huzusb zigbee/zwave stick and zha. Anyone know of any good hacks to get it working?

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more consistently?

gilded thistle
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Hi guys.. Just switched from Deconz to ZHA and having the following issue: State of Binary Sensors (Xiaomi door/window sensors) are not persistent after HA restart. Is there any fix/workaround??

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(After HA restart all binary sensors turn to OFF, regardless of their previous state)

dawn thistle
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Have anyone else experienced the SONOFF SNZB-03 isntantly triggering as soon as motion clears?
Mine (a couple weeks old now) started doing this a couple days ago.
Nothing has changed in terms of placement or what is in front of it, which is why i find it weird.
It is almost as if it's own red LED triggers it or something.

ConBee II with ZHA. The sensor is inside, no glass or other reflective surfaces in its FOV

potent sail
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Just following up on my issue earlier (but starting to feel like this might be a known unknown) I can confirm (that against current recommendation) downgrading back to 2020.12.2 makes my ConbeeII + zha integration fully stable (no problems for several hours now), but as soon as I upgrade to 2021.1.2 the
ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant] Error doing job: Exception in callback SerialTransport._read_ready()
re-appears

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Would normally have chosen to keep running 2020.12.2 for the time being, but with the current security concerns, this is a bit of a catch 22 situation

dry fossil
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If they name the custom components with the issue, you'll be able to decide whether you need the upgrade.

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They may not want to disclose that immediately.

potent sail
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yeah, not sure if they yet grasp the full extent... custom components must be an insanely large domain

dry fossil
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It's a little off-topic for this channel (and there's apparently a forum thread about it too) but I think the attack surface is small, so opportunities to exploit it might be small.

potent sail
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to be honest... my house crashing within minutes of upgrading to 2021.x is a bigger concern to me personally πŸ˜‰

dry fossil
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Yeah... at least you know what's wrong in that case.

potent sail
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zigbee was the case that they gave me

rancid swift
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hey folks. Is there a popular touch-screen hub for zigbee that I can replace my old security system unit with, that can also work with Home Assistant?

tropic depot
potent sail
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The logs .... may have stretched that joke a bit 😏

south dune
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oh... and a fine dedicated channel for zigbee too! Hi there! Using zigbee2mqtt on a seperate Pi next to HA on a VM on a esxi NUC

orchid mural
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Hi all okay been testing a little back and forth, and lastly I finally got the colored hue bulb, and power cycle of the bulb a restart of HA finally got the bulb to register properly πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ if anybody knows why I’m having these problems, are ZHA and zigbee so unstable?

Well back to the real question, I’m seeing some lag in HA interface on the bulbs when turning them on and off, the bulbs do turn off and on, by the interface switches back to previous state and then gets update with 10-120 seconds. Anybody have an idea why.

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I’m wondering if interference could be the problem I’m experiencing, my conbee is currently residing in a server rack, but with no back plating, within 2-4 meters of every sensor and light (currently 5) but I also have two other zigbee networks running (hue and xiaomi)

dry fossil
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You have your ConBee inside a Faraday cage? πŸ€”

orchid mural
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β€œIsch” it’s not completely sealed of as said there is not backplate on, and the front is glass.

dry fossil
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If you haven't addressed that, go do it. Until then, any further troubleshooting is pretty pointless.

amber gull
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Also probably want to verify I'm not overwriting the bootloader too

fleet wedge
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I'm looking for some cheap but accurate power monitoring eu plugs

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Also , i would like to know if there is any alternative to the aqara motion sensors for 5s interval detection

mellow geode
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EU/UK/US plugs?

fleet wedge
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Eu

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I wrote that but forgot to add again lol

sour shadow
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Salus SP600

fleet wedge
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Hard to get and expensive

sour shadow
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Not that expensive

mellow geode
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That looks like a UK plug to me?

sour shadow
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They do an EU version

mellow geode
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Oh

sour shadow
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Oddly, living in the UK, my experience is UK centric πŸ˜›

fleet wedge
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It's hard to find but eu does exist, it's 50€

sour shadow
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If you want quality, you have to pay for it πŸ˜‰

mellow geode
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There are also the Blitzwolf BW SHP-13 plugs and the Xiaomi Mi Smart Plugs. I'm not sure if they're accurate though.

fleet wedge
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The blitzwolf are off by +/-15%

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The mi ones seem better

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But i haven't seen reviews comparing to others like people did with blitzwolf

fleet wedge
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I can't afford the salus ones

simple sentinel
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The plugs never were, don't I know.
Always some slight disappointment ordering something off eBay, then it comes with UK cables

fleet wedge
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Always double check that

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I have bunch of uk to eu conversion plugs

simple sentinel
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Yes, and it's not that much of an issue since they haven't brexited from 220-240v

fleet wedge
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What about motion sensor? Is everyone using a modified aqara?

sour shadow
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If you want short detection windows you really need non-battery ones - I'm not aware of any of those for Zigbee

mellow geode
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The hue sensors are also very fast. (fast detection and cooldown of like 10 seconds)

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(and very expensive compared to others)

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But they also seem to feature a temperature sensor & illuminance sensor that updates more often than the ones on the Aqara motion sensors.

sour shadow
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Quality costs... who'd have thought πŸ˜›

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Yeah, for a light sensor I can recommend the Xiaomi Mijia one

old kernel
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ah, ZHA, how i love thee.
Run HA core update, get Unavailable

alpine cipher
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Hello, which is the best choice as router : IKEA or TUYA extender

fleet wedge
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Can you recommend a non zigbee fast motion sensor elsewhere tinkerer?

sour shadow
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Z-Wave πŸ˜‰

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The Aeotec ones are great

alpine cipher
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can you send the link ?

sour shadow
alpine cipher
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and about the router?

mellow geode
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But the IKEA repeater also works fine.

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Haven't used the TUYA one though.

sour shadow
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I've got a CC2530 with antenna that works as an awesome router

alpine cipher
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i have one as well, but used it as sniffer

amber gull
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I wouldn't recommend either whole heartily

fleet wedge
alpine cipher
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currently none of my "router" actually routes anything

sour shadow
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Yeah, Z-Wave is expensive πŸ˜„

mellow geode
fleet wedge
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I've looked at it before deciding on diy'ing most things

alpine cipher
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i looked with wireshark and zigbee sniffer

fleet wedge
amber gull
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IKEA will randomly crash and need to be power cycled, Tuya may be using a 2530?

alpine cipher
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and all devices are directly linked to the coordinator

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this is the one I'm looking at

sour shadow
fleet wedge
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Deleted mistake

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Also lamps from a German name brand

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I forgot the name

mellow geode
amber gull
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No, it kills routing for children too

mellow geode
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Oh :/

amber gull
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but -- radio is half alive so children don't roam to new parent

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it just acks their messages and then black holes them

mellow geode
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haha

fleet wedge
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Zigbee devices don't reroute

mellow geode
fleet wedge
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Muller yes

alpine cipher
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did someone test these Tuya routers ?

fleet wedge
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I saw people bought Muller just for router purposes

alpine cipher
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Muller ?

fleet wedge
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I'm going to be using mostly lightbulbs, i wasn't getting those ikea ones regardless

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Good to know about their issue

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As I'm relying heavily on the mesh aspect

mellow geode
alpine cipher
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i understand but it could be that the routers i have just aren't good routers

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i heard that IKEA, HUE typically don't do the job for ZHA

pine vine
fleet wedge
alpine cipher
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feibit seems to be also not good

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okay - what do you have from Muller ?

mellow geode
alpine cipher
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i did this

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try to force them via the routers to connect

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but they have a mind of their own

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i just think i don't have the right routers in place

fleet wedge
alpine cipher
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honestly

mellow geode
alpine cipher
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my LGI values are all around 100+

fleet wedge
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You're right, but they actually fixed the connection issues for them

alpine cipher
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but none at these levels

fleet wedge
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I was thinking about going yeelight 2020 model

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Ive got 5 Lidl bulbs

alpine cipher
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baka, this is what you meant ?

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https://www.amazon.de/Lichtsystem-MÜLLER-LICHT-LED-Birnenform-individuelles-Stimmungslicht/dp/B07CSFNJQP/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?__mk_de_DE=Γ…MÅŽÕÑ&crid=3TN4J7NNA9YF&dchild=1&keywords=mΓΌller%2Bzigbee%2Be27&qid=1610732091&sprefix=muller%2Bzigbee%2Caps%2C236&sr=8-3-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyMjdNVUhHVk0yMVNNJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjQzNzc0NEFMSjdZSlpJWTcyJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTEwMDUwOTUzQkpMOEdINldaU0g5JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

fleet wedge
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My slaehs stick ups status is still pending

fleet wedge
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It's also an okay lamp

alpine cipher
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do you think LEDVANCE Smart Plug can give you also power consumption information ?

fleet wedge
alpine cipher
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what about power plugs that give power consumtion information

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any suggestions ?

fleet wedge
alpine cipher
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and are they good routers ?

fleet wedge
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Rule of thumb they are good routers

alpine cipher
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what about blitzwolf ?

fleet wedge
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If you don't mind the +/-15% inaccuracies

alpine cipher
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well i'm planning to put a shelly EM3 at the basis

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once i can get it here

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and then put a few plugs left and right

fleet wedge
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It's fine for knowing if the laundry is done based on the big difference in usage

alpine cipher
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what would you suggest ?

fleet wedge
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I haven't found one

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Im considering the aqara ones

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But then you have the Xiaomi stubberness

alpine cipher
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i have still a few Tuya (wifi) laying around

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still need to start that project to get them local

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can blitzwolf be considered a good router ?

fleet wedge
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I think so, it's very popular

alpine cipher
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thank you

fleet wedge
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If i didn't need more accurate power info i would be all over these

alpine cipher
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i understand

obsidian sandalBOT
river dome
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hopefully someone can give me some guidence

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im struggling big time

golden vessel
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@river dome what is the question? πŸ˜„

river dome
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the bot wrapped up my text into a pastebin

golden vessel
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ah! I see lol

river dome
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but basically I installed deconz and when I try to open the web ui apps It wont work

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just bought myself a philips hue led stripe to test my conbee II and I`m stuck 😦

golden vessel
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sorry, can't help since I don't use deconz :/

final pivot
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Has the new Hue wall switch been discussed on here yet?

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why is it on battery instead of using main? is it the only way phillips can still force there bulbs to be used or something?

golden vessel
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it is not a relay

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only an (expensive) contact sensor

junior seal
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I'm back with another zigbee problem. I installed Zigbee Home Automation yesterday, after long fight it finally detected my conbee 2. I discovered 2 sonoff snzb-2 (temp/humi) sensors and added to the web interface. BUT! One of them didn't reported any data, it looked like it fired sensor data once when it was discovered, and never again. I paired it again today, and it seems to be working now - BUT now the first one (that worked fine since yesterday) stopped reporting. Some bug and I can only use one sensor per usb dongle?

river dome
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is there anything else I can use @golden vessel ?

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I have conbee II

golden vessel
ivory hound
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made a new home assistant on second home and I said, hey let's use conbee II stick with deconz see how they improved πŸ™‚

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it was a total failure

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😦

river dome
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ah @golden vessel , seems like it works better. Now I just gotta have my led strips in pair mode

golden vessel
ivory hound
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@golden vessel at this point i dont even care anymore :)) dunno what happen i did not want to start debugging anymore on this, i managed to do the docker container ok ha ok, added some devices all good and after a while

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everything stopped working

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usual stuff for deconz

golden vessel
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I've used a conbee 1 for more than 1 year with ZHA without major issues

river dome
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man, @golden vessel you dont happend to know how to add philips hue lightstrip in pair made?

ivory hound
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i have one more elelabs stick i'll do zha, that works verry good

river dome
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crap.

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cant belive google does not have clarity on this

junior seal
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long press some button?

ivory hound
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yah zha is good

river dome
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there is buttons @junior seal

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there is just plug it in, and its on

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ZHA says: Make sure your devices are in pairing mode. Check the instructions of your device on how to do this.

golden vessel
river dome
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damn

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seems like I need some more hardware

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I thought it could connect to HA directly with no hub

golden vessel
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it can

river dome
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but it says to pair it I need a bridge, dimmer or ikea trΓ₯dfri thingy

lilac wharf
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Well, you need a zigbee adapter of some sort

river dome
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I thought my conbee II would handle it

lilac wharf
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It should

golden vessel
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but you need to reset it so that you can pair it, since Phillips has decided that they would not implement a way to reset things decently lol

river dome
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exactly

golden vessel
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In deconz you actually have an option to do Touchlink reset

river dome
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well deconz does not work for me :p

lilac wharf
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So...get deconz working first

river dome
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man I have no idea how

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I get 502: bad gateway

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when I try to spin it up

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from web ui

golden vessel
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ZHA does not have touchlink yet 😦

river dome
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logs looks okish

lilac wharf
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When did you start it?

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Assuming you're talking about an add-on, IIRC it can take a few minutes before the web UI is accessible after installing

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I don't have add-ons anymore though, so maybe that's changed

river dome
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Did it weeks ago

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but I got my first zigbee device today

lilac wharf
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O I C

river dome
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Tried to open it once more now, got this log:
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py", line 228, in meth
return getattr(self._sock,name)(*args)
error: [Errno 111] Connection refused
172.30.32.2 - - [15/Jan/2021:20:53:19 +0100] "GET /novnc/websockify HTTP/1.1" 101 0 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/88.0.4324.79 Safari/537.36 Edg/88.0.705.41"
Ignoring interrupted syscall

lilac wharf
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Python 2.7, wtf

tropic depot
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not supported

final pivot
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Philips Hue Wall Switch Module - 40$

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Opinions?

tropic depot
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isn't a shelly like 10?

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and for zigbee the sonoff relay

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zb3 and like 10$

river dome
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anything wrong with Python 2.7? And did I end up with wrong version of it somehow?

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[20:54:28] INFO: GCFFlasher V3_17 (c) dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik gmbh
Path | Vendor | Product | Serial | Type
-----------------+--------+---------+------------+-------
/dev/ttyACM0 | 0x1CF1 | 0x0030 | | ConBee II
/dev/ttyACM1 | 0x1CF1 | 0x0030 | | ConBee II

Weird? shows up on both ACM0 and ACM1?

golden vessel
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@river dome have you removed the ZHA extension and rebooted HA?

final pivot
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Philips Hue Wall Switch Module also only works with zigbee zll products, so could argue its worse

golden vessel
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if those logs are from the deconz plugin, python 2.7 is fine

tropic depot
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where is python 2.7 being used? if it is for HA then don't bother

river dome
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these are from deconz

tropic depot
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they are getting ready to drop support for 3.7...

golden vessel
final pivot
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why is it using a battery instead of doing what many of no neutral versions do?

golden vessel
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@river dome remove ZHA and reboot your machine, just to be sure

golden vessel
final pivot
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sorry.. how does it work, contact sensor?

golden vessel
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then you need smart lights (that will always be powered)

final pivot
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so the switch works in parrarel with the bulb?

golden vessel
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they don't connect to each other at all

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the switch stops controlling the bulb (physically)

final pivot
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No but works in parrarel to triggers the bulb to turn off ect

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bassically like a zigbee button

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expensive one lol

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I prefer the Idea of using a no neutral Aqara D1 2 Button, 1 button for light and other button for lamps or something

quick hare
amber gull
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Yes

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curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Koenkk/zigbee-OTA/master/index.json | jq -r '.[] | .url' | xargs wget

quick hare
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Oh nice! That will pull all the firmwares?

amber gull
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All, yes

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Do it in your OTAU directory if using ZHA

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Restart HA and it will upgrade all applicable/compatible devices

quick hare
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Nice

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Mhh what is jq ? @amber gull πŸ™‚

amber gull
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Cli tool for parsing json

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If you don't have it installed

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Just copy/paste

quick hare
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Thank you so much! πŸ™‚

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I ended up installing it. Look lightweight.

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How do you identify the Hue firmwares from all of them? πŸ™‚

amber gull
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ZHA will handle that for you. Or you can look at the raw json file

quick hare
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Nice I’ll take a look at the JSON!

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Do you know if updating them via Bluetooth result to the same thing?

amber gull
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I would assume so

gentle flint
alpine cipher
alpine cipher
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Other question. Would i be able to run Z2M together with Kodi on LibreELEC (RPI 4 - 8G) ?

near echo
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Why not try it? Sometime earlier I was trying to install Z2M as a docker install in Libreelec on RPI3B but had issues on the docker install itself, haven;t troubleshooted since then and just use Libreelec seperately

alpine cipher
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i'm currently on ZHA

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and i'm evaluating to move to Z2M but i don't want to waste a RPI4 just for this

dry fossil
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Your first step is to check if you can even install Docker on LibreELEC. If not, give up on running Z2M on that same machine.

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If you can, there shouldn't be any issues. Docker is Docker.

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But since LibreELEC is a minimal OS, your mileage may vary.

alpine cipher
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thanks mono

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i'll give it a go

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does anyone use blitzwolf plug with ZHA ,

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?

brisk violet
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i can put my Phoscon RaspBee II into the same pi as my hass is running yeah?

lone echo
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Does anyone know if the Hue Play light bars work with HA via ConBee II? I’ve struggled to find information about this and they’re notably missing from most comparability lists?

I’m not interested (right now) in the HDMI sync, just the actual lights.

mellow geode
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The lights should be normal Zigbee lights. They should just work.
They even feature Bluetooth (if running the latest firmware). It's just not on the package to avoid confusion about Hue Entertainment being possible via Bluetooth.

mellow geode
alpine cipher
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Would it be possible to make a router of the elelabs stick ?

mellow geode
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It's probably possible. However, nobody currently made router firmware for it (afaik).

alpine cipher
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I am thinking of moving away from zha towards Z2M

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And would have loved to do something with the stick

golden vessel
alpine cipher
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Some of my devices don’t react good with it

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Secondly, I hate that every time I reboot HA the zigbee network goes down

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Third I can put the rpi somewhere more central then where my HA is located

lilac wharf
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The network stays up, home assistant just isn't aware of any messages sent on it when it's restarting

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However, that can result in outdated states for end devices once home assistant is back up

alpine cipher
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Okay

lilac wharf
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I also prefer the decoupled aspect of zigbee2mqtt though

alpine cipher
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The thing is that I’ll be stuck with the stick

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And feel like a waste after just a few months

lilac wharf
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You could run the home assistant remote custom integration on your main system and run a second instance of HA + ZHA on the secondary system with the stick you have. All depends on whether you want the dependency of the home assistant remote custom integration

alpine cipher
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That’s a valid point

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That said I am thinking of using a rpi for kodi, Z2M and room assistant

lilac wharf
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However if you do go the z2m route you could always sell the stick on eBay

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Or whatever site is popular in your country. Not sure how popular eBay is outside the US (if you're not in the US, that is)

alpine cipher
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I am in Israel

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Another question

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As I started with a tasmotized sonoff bridge

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I have that one also laying around. Can that one be converted to a router ?

lilac wharf
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Not that I know of

alpine cipher
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Thanks just checking

austere patio
alpine cipher
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Thanks

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Just to indicate I’ve been in touch with elelabs in nov/dec but since mid dec they stopped responding

austere patio
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In touch about what? Hardware problems?

orchid mural
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hmm do anybody know where i can see the color of a hue blub in zha, like i can on a bulb directly connected to the hue bridge, it normally shows in states in developer tools...

mellow geode
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It should also do that with ZHA/Z2M/deCONZ

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I also see it just fine (using ZHA) in the Developer Tools -> States.

orchid mural
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ah can it maybe be because when it's white it only show the temperature...

lilac wharf
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correct

orchid mural
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ah nice, it didn't in some of the way older versions, thanks πŸ˜„

alpine cipher
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connection problems

orchid mural
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okay something weird here, i'm setting up my scene after migrating to ZHA, and the last light i'm turning off, and in the interface it does seem to be turned off, but the light is not off, and the interface updates it's self after 5-10 seconds, showing the light on.

golden vessel
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Check for errors in zha logs (see the integration docs on how to enable them).

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Probably it is failing to communicate with the bulb

orchid mural
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hmmm yeah scenes only works like half the time, some bulbs works, other only half like only dimming not setting it's color, other just don't do anything.

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ah apparently it was the transition πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

mellow geode
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The newer Hue bulbs (the ones with Bluetooth/QR-Code/ZHA profile instead of ZLL profile) report "attribute reports" while a transition is happening. I guess this can spam the network.
I've also had an issue with my ConBee II and scenes sometimes not activating fully. This was "solved" by switching to an Elelabs (ELU013) stick (and later to the ZZH stick).

mellow geode
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Correct use case is to trigger the scene using a service call and then supply the transition to that service call as an attribute.

orchid mural
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i could active the transition in the call ........

orchid mural
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Thanks

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okay no that wasn't it, i still have problems with the scene only activating half,

golden vessel
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What is the lqi on the failing bulbs?

orchid mural
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lqi?

golden vessel
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on the Device page, on the top left

orchid mural
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LQI: 239

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LQI: 199

golden vessel
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thats pretty good

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can you trigger the scene and send a log when it fails? (and mention the timestamp on when you triggered it and failed)

orchid mural
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18:38:57 isch

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called livingroom_dimmed

golden vessel
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what is the nwk?

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(you can also get it from the Device's page)

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the nwk of the one that failed

orchid mural
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0x54ef

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0x2633

golden vessel
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both failed?

orchid mural
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yes

golden vessel
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are you sure those nwk are correct?

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I can't find them on the logs

orchid mural
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yeah i think i also saw that on the log, the scene run but it seems like it's only sending commands to three of the five bulbs...

golden vessel
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0x151B
0x48B7
0x49DF
those are the ones

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which are being changed

orchid mural
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yup that seems correct.

golden vessel
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the last two where not changed

orchid mural
golden vessel
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are u sure entity ids are correct?

orchid mural
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yes

golden vessel
#

doesn't seem like a ZHA issue

orchid mural
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just clicked it again and it seemed to work...

golden vessel
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are you sure that you don't have some automation changing them? check the logbook

orchid mural
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yup, as these are completely "new" as they where moved from hue bridge and gave them new id's this is the first thing trying..... nothing in the logbook...

golden vessel
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try changing the order on the scene

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to see if they work being the first (and the others fail)

orchid mural
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okay it seems like the scenes are shit, i just tried building it in a script instead and they seem work much better...

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yeah the script seems much better....

golden vessel
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weird! :/

orchid mural
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yeah, but now that i think about it, i think i had the same problem for like 2-3 years ago, before i migrated them back to hue scenes..... But i'm getting to old to remember......

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but thanks for the help

lone echo
orchid mural
frail oracle
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Doesn't see the stick.

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looks like it

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Oh nvm

orchid mural
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yeah a restart got it up again.

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But i'm stilling having the problem with it seems like the enterties are not getting updated properly, like when turning off lights, the state are not correctly being sent to HA, i moved the stick out of the server rack, pointing towards the other devices on a wire that is only 80 cm, and the gateway is around 1-2 m from the first powered bulbs.

queen brook
#

hey guys.. how does one add an ikea sensor to ZHA?

orchid mural
queen brook
orchid mural
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yeah deconz didn't work for me either....

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT for the win πŸ˜›

orchid mural
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is Zigbee2MQTT better then conbee II?

queen brook
sour shadow
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Conbee is a USB stick, so no, the software isn't better than a USB stick πŸ˜›

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If you look at the topic, and pinned messages, you'll find links BTW πŸ˜‰

orchid mural
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so what you are saying is that Zigbee2MQTT is better then doconz and zha?

sour shadow
#

IMO, yes - but in truth there's no "better"

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It's more about what suits you

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I like that it's external to HA

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I can upgrade it when I want, or run the dev version, or ...

queen brook
#

what makes it better in your opinion? I havent built my zigbee network yet so might be good for me to know your side

sour shadow
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Having it separate

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So, when I upgrade HA it's not touched

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I can run HA in a basement, and Z2M centrally for a healthier mesh

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I can upgrade it when I want, I'm not forced to just because I'm upgrading HA

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zha is better in that it's part of HA, so you get an upgrade with HA. Oh, and it assumes all devices work, so probably your random device will work

violet dagger
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but you need mqtt for it 😒

sour shadow
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No big deal

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That takes about 30 seconds to set up

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Including finding the instructions πŸ˜›

violet dagger
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thats the usual answer πŸ˜›

orchid mural
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oh, but you can't use conbee on zigbee2mqtt right?

sour shadow
#

You can

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It's technically experimental, but some folks have had a lot of success, and others have had issues

queen brook
#

I got ZHA and my ikea sensor working within us chatting

simple sentinel
#

Z2M: Having it abstracted through MQTT is nice too.
That way if you use MQTT for other stuff, HA just sees it all as one big MQTT pie

queen brook
#

@orchid mural you the mvp

violet dagger
#

i got a report that raspbee II is working fine for a while now

simple sentinel
orchid mural
#

okay but how is the connection better in Z2M? as i just started out with ZHA, and i had a couple of hickups and some troubles with it...

sour shadow
#

Well, the connection is largely down to the mesh, and in part the coordinator

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Sticking the USB stick on a short USB cable will help, as will not using a USB 3 port/cable

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After that, it comes down to building a robust and healthy mesh

orchid mural
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yeah i did that, put it on a 80 cm, cable hanging it out of my server rack pointing towards the other devices.....

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how would you then build a robust and healthy mesh other then setting up you'r devices?

sour shadow
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Well, start by moving the stick vaguely central

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Then it's a case of looking at the mesh diagram, and making sure you have multiple routes with stable LQI values, ideally all above 100

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However, my personal experience is that stable trumps high - a stable link below 50 is still stable

whole crown
#

@gentle flint ... I've noticed in ZigZag that I am seeing a lot of neighbour connections reported as None of the above. (This is the message I get from ZHA from my browser network log)

πŸ“Ž unknown.png
#

Is it possible that the code I added to ZHA is the root cause, or might there be another reason?

gentle flint
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yeah, I don't how much you can trust that field. I feel like different vendors use different meaning for it

whole crown
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I've been lazy and am just reporting the ENUM text value, perhaps a differnet approach is required.

gentle flint
whole crown
#

Also, I'm seeing devices that appear to not be connected to anything, even when they have been recently active.

πŸ“Ž unknown.png
gentle flint
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IMO, ignore the field

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Conbee?

whole crown
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Yes

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I thought that all routers kept a list of children to ensure they could store & forward messages.

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The devices in question are always battery devices.

gentle flint
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except ConBee

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ConBee does not keep the list of children and wants the application to restore it upon startup

whole crown
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B'stards! lol

gentle flint
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yeah

whole crown
#

I recall in the deCONZ app (when I played with it a few months ago) there was a sorta ping type thing.

gentle flint
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so when that happens, usually because those devices are known to zigpy, but were not returned in any of the Mgmt_Lqi_Rsp responses

whole crown
#

If I recall correctly, I wonder if there would be any mileage in a similar type of thing in zigpy

gentle flint
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yeah, they can afford it, because they only have to work with one radio. Essentially they send the get_nwk_by_ieee command to the device

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that did not work for ezsp, because ezsp always did a local lookup

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so to ping, try reading the manufacturer or model attribute from the device

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or sw_build_id attri bute

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ZHA reads the model, if it thinks the device is down

whole crown
#

I wonder if Zigbee protocol shoulld be renamed to ZigEnigma?

torpid cove
#

Is aqara still the cheapest zigbee contact sensor?

Also any recommendation for zigbee power monitoring plug? Or should I use wifi ones?

whole crown
torpid cove
#

omg

whole crown
#

Any other recomendations?

lilac wharf
#

Why is what is presumably an IR remote on the cover of that book lol

gentle flint
tender cosmos
#

hey what is peoples experience with ikea tradfri extenders and xiaomi devices? do they work together?

versed basin
#

I have a Aqara hub but i dont get him connected to my HA. Can u put e conbee2 stick in my raspberry pi and use the hub from aqara at the same time as lamp or alarm?

south dune
#

just having general issues with xiaomi devices that sometimes lose connection, not matter if they are connected directly to the zigbee stick or via a powered outlet or via the repeater

near echo
marble plume
#

Anyone know what this means "failed to set dtr/rts" spamming over and over again, I'm running HassIO on virtualbox, its been fine until I had to reboot yesterday for the 5.10 update.

tender cosmos
pulsar haven
#

I use a combination of hue, xiaomi, blitzwolf and ikea. If i want to repeat the signal i just put down another switchable powersocket or lamp πŸ™‚ I have no experience with the ikea repeaters

near echo
whole crown
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@gentle flint @tropic depot ... I wonder if you could shed some light on the circumstances under which ZHA reports a device as being available/unavailable?

gritty frigate
#

Hello πŸ™‚ is there an easy way to implement long press, double/tripple press actions for a light switch?

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that doesn't sound like strictly zigbee specific, but given the two devices in question (Lonsonho wired wall switch & Philips hue switch) are actually zigbee devices I wonder if this comes up more than twice every hour on this channel πŸ˜„

ivory hound
#

does anyone have an issue where Ikea bulb doesn't light to the set brightness, this happens on ZHA with elelabs coordinator (bulb model: TRADFRI bulb E27 WS opal 1000lm), this is not happen every single time it happens one time from 10, per example one time in 10 when light should light on brightness 225 it on 178, or considerable dimmer light.

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this do not happen on OSRAM ones or hue

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only ikea

orchid mural
#

So i'm still having troubles with HA not getting the state properly when turning of the bulbs, there is always on or two bulbs that always seems to be on in HA even though the bulbs are off.

gritty frigate
orchid mural
#

And that is when turning them off in HA.

orchid mural
#

Okay by advice from a friend, i also tried adding the bulbs into a ZHA group (before they where a light group), i also tried removing one of the two bulbs i seem to be having troubles with, the two of them are sitting really close, and the one i removed filckers if i turn it down really far, so i was thinking the bulb have a problem.

But nope, still having issues, turning of the ZHA group, still can leave a bulb on in the interface, even though the bulb is off.

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okay also tried turning off, the other zigbee networks i had running, xiaomi and hue, still the same issue?

fleet wedge
#

Is there any zigbee rgb+cct 220v e27 bulb,that i can buy in europe, that's under 15€ that isn't Lidl?

sour shadow
#

Ikea Tradfri?

fleet wedge
#

It's not actually rgb

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Which is unfortunate because ikea would be my main go to

simple sentinel
#

Are the Lidl ones not good?
Or just unavailable in your parts?

fleet wedge
#

The rgb is weak and they tend to buzz

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But they're what I'll be getting if there is no alternative

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I wanted to get the yeelight 1s

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But it's wifi

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And xiaomi doesn't make a zigbee bulb with rgb (or at all?)

sour shadow
#

Cheap and quality tend not to go together

orchid mural
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hrmpf now it's another bulb acting up, hrmpf what do i do....

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makes no freaking sense.....

mellow geode
# orchid mural ***hrmpf*** now it's another bulb acting up, *hrmpf* what do i do....

On GitHub, I've had another person reporting a similar issue with hue bulbs, Conbee and ZHA. (I had the same issue basically)
In the end, he bought an Elelabs stick which seemed to "fix" the issue for him. I also bought one and it seemed to work way better with scenes (many messages at once) and so on.
Currently switched to a "ZZH!" stick and it's fine as well.

fleet wedge
mellow geode
#

It's obviously not a great solution and it might not even work in your case, but if you have some spare time (to re-pair all devices) and are willing to spend money on getting a second coordinator, it might be worth a try.

golden vessel
orchid mural
#

hmmm that's a bit bad to hear, as i just got this and trying it out.

orchid mural
mellow geode
#

Perhaps you could also try to update the firmware on the Conbee stick?

orchid mural
#

I saw a button. "add devices via this device" is there any benefits in doing it that way, and in which circumentation do you use that feauture?

mellow geode
#

You'd probably need to do that with a separate PC and I've only ever had luck with using the "manual" method described in their wiki

orchid mural
mellow geode
mellow geode
orchid mural
#

ah okay, so if i just keep the general add devices when all my bulbs are in the network there shouldn't be a problm....

orchid mural
mellow geode
mellow geode
orchid mural
#

can it be done from home assistant OS where the stick is connected?

mellow geode
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I don't think so. (Or at least not easily)

orchid mural
#

okay thank you, yeah the firmware is properly a go place to start, Do you know of a way to check the firmware on the stick?

mellow geode
#

Perhaps it's in the debug logs (don't think so though). You could try to setup the deCONZ addon (don't pair any lights through) this. Just do the "basic" setup and you might see the firmware version there. Perhaps you can even upgrade it. You'll need to deactivate (and disable auto start) of the deCONZ addon afterwards, as deCONZ and ZHA can't talk to the stick at the same time.
If you can, I'd probably try to remove it from the system and maybe update it using some kind of Linux VM though.

orchid mural
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yeah i couldn't get access to the gateway through the addon for some reason....

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another quick question i tried playing a little around with the bind and unbind, and to get started a tried to unbind the level of the hue dimmer, from the cordinator, but clicking the buttons seems to do nothing.

mellow geode
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You'll need to click "UNBIND" and then press any button on the remote (so it wakes up and can receive the message).
It should then unbind and you should no longer see any zha_events coming from the device.
(This currently has issues with zigpy_znp and TI coordinators though, but it should work on ConBee and EZSP sticks)

orchid mural
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hmm i just tried that, nope still not unbinded, should this be correct? and should the popup close or anything, because the button just seems to do nothing.

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where can i upload an image to show πŸ˜„

golden vessel
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if you unbind the remote from the coordinator, the remote will not work anymore. it is binded by default by ZHA

obsidian sandalBOT
#

@orchid mural Your message has been deleted as it contains a link or a domain name 'pasteboard_dot_co' that is on the blocked list because of: 'Virus detected!'.
Please re-post by removing/changing the domain name/link. Your original message has been DM'ed to you.

orchid mural
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then i'll try another

orchid mural
golden vessel
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ah, I see

orchid mural
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But it seems like it's not unbinding at all.

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are i'm doing it properly....

gentle flint
fleet wedge
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So what if invest a little more, innr is about 25€ is there anything better at that price?

orchid mural
mellow geode
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Although it's not confirmed that they work with ZHA (on that site), it's very likely that they just work

fleet wedge
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I know innr works even if it's not listed

dry fossil
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Quality is subjective. What someone else is happy with, you may not be.

fleet wedge
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The Lidl lights are more than good enough for their cct white, the colors however are very dim

fleet wedge
#

For example lifx is better than hue in every way

mellow geode
#

Perhaps try looking at some comparaisons on YouTube then

fleet wedge
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That's what I've been doing for a while now

mellow geode
#

There are some videos that directly compare Hue and Innr for example

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Well, if that's not enough, then maybe just buy one bulb and return them if you don't like them?

fleet wedge
#

If only stores were actually open and you could go there to compare

orchid mural
mellow geode
#

I'm using the ZZH (and thus the zigpy_znp library) which has the following bug currently: https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/issues/58
Basically, unbinding doesn't seem to work, so I can't test if there's any feedback.
If I remember correctly, there isn't any feedback though. Maybe (but I also don't think this happens when unbinding) the button turns green.

#

Are you still getting zha_events when listening for them? (After "unbinding" the remote)

orchid mural
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the only thing maybe, is that the only the dimmer don't show as a battery sensor.

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and yes still getting the ZHA event in....

livid abyss
#

Are there known problems with the Sonoff temp/hum sensors on ZHA? I have 3, one works normally, the other two dropped off the network after 2 days or so. If I rejoin them, they send exactly one value for temp/hum and then nothing after. The batteries seem fine.

mellow geode
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Also, the devices don't support OTA upgrades.

livid abyss
#

Hmm, mine don't submit humidity either, the are show as unavailable in HA. The one that works reports humidity a lot more frequently than temp, but I guess that's just because humidity changes more.

mellow geode
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Mhm, maybe it's a different issue then. Could be related to the router they're connected to? (But the Sonoff sensors should be Zigbee 3.0 so idk)

livid abyss
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No idea, it's also weird that the first one I got works fine since weeks already.

finite compass
#

They arent becoming unavaliable on ZHA so they must be reporting something. Tried resetting one, but was unable to pair it again...

#

I've tried a restart and the state stays the same

#

Integration and stick are still working, I have a motion sensor still sending me data

orchid mural
mellow geode
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Which version was it running?

mellow geode
cold gorge
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So I got my nRF52 development board nicely in HA as color controllable light bulb, but I never get color change events back in my device πŸ˜…

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But I managed to get temperature/humidity/pressure endpoints so that's a win

tawny ether
#

Im trying to pair a bunch of Aqara buttons with HA (2021.1.4) via a Sonoff ZB bridge, but the buttons, although detected, fail to pair. Other Zigbee things like my Samsung Smarthings outlets pair within a second, no issues. Where do I log an issue and provide logs etc?

river dome
#

So I installed ZHA, Philips Hue Bridge and a lighstrip that is added through my bridge to my philips hue app on Phone. Now when I search for new devices in ZHA it finds nothing, no idea how to get lightstrip or bridge into pair mode?

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added philips hue integration too which found the bridge but not the lightstrip

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no one :D? I Cant be the first one to struggle with this :p

obsidian sandalBOT
#

@river dome People (and other sentient or vaguely intelligent beings) aren't waiting here for your questions, ready to leap upon them the moment they appear. Have a little patience. Keep in mind that repeatedly posting to get attention is against the rules (flooding) and can get you muted or banned.

Command '~patience' was invoked by: Tinkerer
strange ibex
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spurkis, remove it from the bridge

river dome
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well, I rebooted my hassio and it worked with the philips hue integration

#

so I guess I dont need ZHA?

strange ibex
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I should have asked what you were trying to do.

#

I keep my Hue bulbs on my Hue bridge and the rest of zigbee on its own network just like it sounds like you're doing

river dome
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hmm, is there any reason why you split it

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for instance, cant you add all zigbee devices to hue bridge?

strange ibex
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Is there a reason YOU split it? lol

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I split it because of all of the entertainment features

faint elm
#

I'm not sure what issue you are referring to?

steel summit
#

@faint elm deconz

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the container and the error message, whatever it was. I had the same.

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Everything connected and worked except the integration with Home Assistant

faint elm
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That must have been a while back. My integration works perfect now.

steel summit
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Yeah, it was. I did a search for the "cant get api" or whatever the message was.

faint elm
#

Well, is you integration working?

steel summit
#

yeah, it is now πŸ˜›

faint elm
#

Super, then we're both good to go πŸ‘

steel summit
#

For me the issue was im using unraid. I used a container but after a reboot of the server i tried Spaceinvaders container, which in turn was the issue

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hehe yeah, i just figured i'd contact you if you had the same issue and never solved it but didnt pay attention to how far back it was πŸ˜›

faint elm
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Time flies by. But thanks anyway πŸ˜‰

lilac wharf
strange ibex
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I didn't even see that question

river dome
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@lilac wharf how do You add devices with no bridge tho

lilac wharf
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Zigbee USB stick

sour shadow
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See the topic and pinned messages πŸ˜‰

echo shell
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I've been trying to add an Aqara Wall Switch Double Rocker using ZHA (both with Conbee II and slae.sh stick) running on a Pi4 but I only get the power, not the switches. Does anybody have any ideas what I can try to get it to work? The switch was working in another Pi, connected to the Conbee II, but I can't get it connected to the new one

cold gorge
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So is it possible to send attributes to the zigbee device? I get contains that parameters are missing

echo shell
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@cold gorge if that was to me I'm not sure exactly what you mean, sorry

cold gorge
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It's a general question for my problem

orchid mural
echo shell
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@orchid mural ok, I will try that, thanks. I did see three switches (or something) in the previous installation though

wind phoenix
#

Anyone have an idea what to do when deConz reports lots of entities unavailable after upgrading, even after quite a few restarts plus waiting several hours? Tried deconz.device_refresh service, but doesn't seem to help anything.

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(Phoscon is running and all entities are available there)

orchid mural
orchid mural
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and siiiiiigh the unbinding still also not working....

golden vessel
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you should use an automation instead of binding

orchid mural
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i did it with an automation which also works "ishc" it makes in steps and with a slow interval.

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nothing i tried worked as smooth as the dimmer works in HUE.

strange ibex
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because Hue is the best

golden vessel
orchid mural
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no they are working, but in HA when turning them of/on the state is not updated. which in tern the group also not get's updated. But the lights does turn of/on, and the state get's updated en 10-120 seconds

golden vessel
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on the logs, does HA get the new state immediately or after 10 secs?

orchid mural
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i will try and post the log.....

orchid mural
mellow geode
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Latest Hue firmware update changes signatures because manufacturer name is now Signify Netherlands B.V. instead of Philips 😩

golden vessel
orchid mural
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yup two with 247 and two with 191

golden vessel
#

if you toggle a single bulb individually, does the issue happen?

orchid mural
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hmmm it dones't seem so...

orchid mural
golden vessel
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so, only happens when you do multiple?

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have you tried using a zigbee group instead of ha group?

orchid mural
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yeah it seems so....

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it is ZHA group

golden vessel
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some router could be dropping traffic

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what brand?

orchid mural
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all of them are hue, two colors and two white....

golden vessel
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I've never heard anything regarding Hue's being finicky

#

have you tried using a HA group, instead of zigbee group?

#

I do remember reading something about Hue lights not reporting state (so HA has to poll them)

orchid mural
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yup still the same, was the first thing i tried, where using HA group before had the problem so tried the ZHA group....

#

but isn't the poll only on the hue bridge.... not when moved to ZHA conbee?

#

i can see hue is set to IoT class: Local Polling

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but so are ZHA IoT class: Local Polling

strange ibex
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hue bridge api is polling only. using hue bulbs on your own zigbee network is not the same

golden vessel
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you can't see that on the docs. its something internal to the way zha talks with the hue bulbs specifically

fleet lodge
#

Have a device that is not Zigbee (is WiFi) but needs to be deployed

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Can anyone recommend a manufacturer that does a cheap WiFi AP that I could plug into an outlet?

golden vessel
orchid mural
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so is it maybe the conbee that is causing the problem ?

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i also tried if i could update the firmware but it was running the newest...

golden vessel
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I don't know :/

mystic imp
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does someone have an example of an automation with the xiamo aqara zigbee remotes? I'm confused by the documentation on zigbee2mqtt

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it says:

By default this device exposes a deprecated click event. It’s recommended to use the action event instead.

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I'm not really sure what that means for the trigger of an automation

orchid mural
mystic imp
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aha found more in the docs

golden vessel
orchid mural
golden vessel
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if it works, it works πŸ˜„

orchid mural
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was missing a NOT πŸ˜„

orchid mural
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Do i need to wait for the mesh to build?

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as this new bulb seems to have really low LQI: 87

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fuck yeah okay just found out, you shouldn't unbind it, just bind the levels or whatever you want to the thing you want.

warped hatch
#

Losing the will to live with the Zigbee Sonoff gear, may have to try find alternative equipment, done a search and saw a few mentions in here of similar issues as well.

Worked fine with one Temp sensors for a week or so, got 2 more and a motion sensor as i was impressed, since then it has not worked, they go offline all the time, and when i reboot the Sonoff Zigbee hub they just send the same one value they seem to have last sent and never update until they eventually go offline again.

lilac wharf
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Little disconcerting to hear about the issues with the sonoff motion sensors, I just installed three of them the other day. They seem to be working fine though

strange ibex
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Do you have some routers or only end devices? @deadly

restive elbow
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Anyone know if I can use the aquara sensors with zha instead of the aquara hub?

molten linden
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yes generally they work. they can be picky about their parent devices though.

restive elbow
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Gotcha. I have a nortek zwave/zigbee so if it doesn't work I'll just buy their hub I guess

lilac wharf
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It's the Zigbee integration that influences whether a device will work, not the stick

restive elbow
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Ah, ok. It looks like I have a few options there.. zha, dconz, and zigbee 2mqtt

strange ibex
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z2m 4 lyfe

restive elbow
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I'm seeing a lot of folks using that

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Does passing through a message broker cause any delays?

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I've not got mqtt wired in. I'm not opposed to it, just haven't had A need

lilac wharf
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You can only use ZHA with that stick

strange ibex
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z2m 4 lyfe

lilac wharf
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But no, mqtt is very low latency

molten linden
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if you already have a Nortek stick there is nothing wrong with giving ZHA a shot.

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I use ZHA with over 130 devices, and it's rock solid for me. few hiccups now and then but usually due to family turning something off that I haven't made non-turn-off-able yet.

restive elbow
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Nice.

tender cosmos
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hey guys, i'm getting alot of NO COMPONENTS Maybe this device is not (yet) supported by Zigbee2Mqtt? in z2m assistant when i pair new devices, i can see a few github issues but not clear on the fix - how do i resovle this? it looks as though these devices are added correctly in the z2m config yaml

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when i add new devices its hit and miss as to whether it will work

lilac wharf
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@tender cosmos are these devices on the supported list for zigbee2mqtt?

tender cosmos
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Eg I added 4 ikea repeaters one works the other 3 have that error

lilac wharf
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That's...weird. Maybe enable debug logging for zigbee2mqtt and see what's going on

tender cosmos
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Yeah right now my z2m is full of spam about iot link , is there a way to clean the up first?

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The log I mean

lilac wharf
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Delete the zigbee2mqtt log I suppose, but you can just grep for what you're looking for

prime star
orchid mural
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hi, i wanna ask what is the LQI? i kinda understod it as the signal strength to the network?

sour shadow
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Link Quality Indicator

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Link Quality Indication (LQI) is a cumulative value used in multi-hop networks to assess the cost of a link.
From a random Google hit πŸ˜„

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It's a scale of 0 (no link) to 254 (awesome link) - 255 often means I have no idea

orchid mural
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yeah got the same doesn't mean i understand it πŸ˜‰ I ask because last night i had two bulbs trying to get them on, and had a bit of trouble like they had trouble with the signal. They are also much longer away from the gateway. i looked visualisation, and as far as i could only i few bulbs had strings to the gateway.

sour shadow
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High values > low values

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My experience is that stable matters more than the actual number - and having multiple routes helps a lot

orchid mural
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Now i can see that they have created a propper mesh, but the two bulbs still have a "bad" connection value

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okay, so i can try adding more, as the "mesh" seem to have been created....

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Okay is there a difference from using the β€œgeneral” add device, to using the add devices via this device, I understand that the later of curse uses that device add another device. But from what I understood, the first would just use the whole network to do it?

Again I’m asking here because I just tried adding one of the two bulbs I had trouble with last night, and it wouldn’t connect, again like the connection is weak, but shouldn’t it just then use on of the other more closer.

Well I then tried adding it through the closets and it pop in immediately.

But what is there a difference between doing so, and what does it mean?

sour shadow
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Well, via this device tries to force the new device to join the mesh that way

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IMO generally that's a dumb thing to do since you don't know what the RF environment looks like

orchid mural
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Yeah but shouldn’t the general way use the whole network to adopt new devices?

sour shadow
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It does

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It lets the devices sort it out for themselves

orchid mural
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Then i don’t understand why I’m having trouble adopting these, and they are behaving like they have a weak connection, which they probably have from the gateway as they are father away, but they have several bulbs just within 1-2 meters.

sour shadow
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Are the bulbs acting as routers? I know some brands don't

orchid mural
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Yes, or at least the visualization says they are. It’s hue bulbs.

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Yeah i just tried adding one more bulb from the same location, in the same lamp, having two bulb in the network now sitting not more then 10-20 cm from it, and it's not showing up. I feels like it's only the gateway adopting new devices.

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and do we agree that to adopt in general, is to click configuration > intergrations > devcies (on the ZHA card) > add device

sour shadow
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I'll let somebody who uses ZHA answer that, but it sounds likely

cold gorge
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Is the bulb in pairing mode?

orchid mural
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yup it blinked and, i also for good measure resetted it where it blinked three times.

warped hatch
# prime star damn. just did the same. 3 worked fine, so ordered 3 more and door sensors!

Yeah the one Zigbee temp sensor worked a treat for like a week or two, so I ordered more now they are all an utter unreliable nightmare.

@strange ibex - Sorry not sure what you mean, i have one Zigbee hub, 2 thermostats and a motion sensor all within very close range of the zigbee hub and it is within close range of an access point. It was flawless till I added more than one device to the Zigbee hub now its not even worth having in my home haha.

orchid mural
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Do i need to pair in place or take the devices closer to the gateway in order to get better signal range? And then move to it's correct place.

I must admit i'm wondering why i seems to have so many problems? It seems like there are many running ZHA and conbee, but i can't seem to find that much in terms of people having troubles with it.

sour shadow
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You should pair in place

orchid mural
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okay but then it seems like the bulb is out of range, event though another bulb is right within 20 cm and the next are with 1-2 m and the bulb is still not showing up.....

golden vessel
orchid mural
golden vessel
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how are you reseting the bulb?

orchid mural
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using the hue dimmer, holding on/off buttons, until the light blinks three times, goes dim and comes back up

golden vessel
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what stick? conbee 2?

orchid mural
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yes conbee 2

golden vessel
#

well, a friend of mine had many issues using a conbee 2 with ZHA. He tried twice going from Deconz to ZHA, and eventually went back to Deconz. He's now waiting for a EZSP device to try ZHA again....

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I'm using a Conbee 1 with no issues, though

orchid mural
#

~~ then i maybe should try deconz instead. the main problem i had there, where when i tried accessing the gateway in the settings i said the gateway where unreachable, and the intergration don't pop up in HA so i didn't get my lights in.......~~ hmmm for some reason i think i maybe have access now, i think i'll try that way around.

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hmm but yeah no still can't get the deconz intergration to show, even with the discovery in my config.

golden vessel
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but deconz works?

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regarding the integration, if you press the ADD INTEGRATION button, and search for deconz, it does not show up?

orchid mural
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yes deconz currently seems to be working, and i now have access to my gateway and could update it, so that's good it also found the light that where missing, more or less right of the bat.

The only things is the integration is not auto adding to HA and when i click add intergration on deconz, it ask me to enter adreess wich i maybe suspect to be my HA Ip?

golden vessel
#

have you restarted HA, to force it to discover things?

orchid mural
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never-mind got it by using a really weird ip? does it send talk with the cloud or something?

golden vessel
orchid mural
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

hearty oasis
#

Hello all. This may be a dumb question... If I have 2 zigbee lights in the same room and I wanted to control them both at the same time, is that a cluster?

orchid mural
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okay this looks way more promising to be honest, the light seems responsive and turn of in HA.... interresting i'll test some more.

golden vessel
hearty oasis
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Awesome. Thanks

orchid mural
hearty oasis
#

I'm using ZHA

orchid mural
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then in configauraton > configuration (on the ZHA card) > and then groups tab on the top

hearty oasis
#

in an interesting situation I first went and made all my switches zwave. Now i am using some zigbee lights in those rooms because I think some tunable colors would be cool

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I may have to re-think my naming convention on the lights, since the switch is called living room lights. Thanks for the help!

analog flicker
#

Has anyone successfully setup the aqara cube directly with home assistant? I have a aqara temp sensor working with zha no issues, would the cube be any different?

mellow geode
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I've seen some people do it no problem.

analog flicker
#

Theoretically it should pair and show 6 different entities?

lilac wharf
#

@analog flicker you won't see entities for it, you'll need to use event triggers. Listen for zha_event at developer tools > events for the event data

analog flicker
#

Is there an ELI5 tutorial for that?

lilac wharf
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  1. go to developer tools > events
  2. type zha_event in the "listen to events" field
  3. click START LISTENING
  4. move the cube and watch the resulting events
potent sail
#

Hi all,
I am just reading some of the comments above, and having been struggling with my own conbee II + zha problems since the last update (network becomes fully unresponsive after a few hours at most). Not asking for a full trouble shoot here, but am I correct in understanding that conbee II + zha is just not an ideal combination that generally causes trouble? I migrated from Deconz to zha not too long ago as Deconz was not 100% responsive, but this is unworkable, so now considering migrating back.

analog flicker
orchid mural
potent sail
#

for me zha and conbee II setup worked fine, got all my 70+ devices paired and it ran great for about a month. Then, since the 2021.x.x update, within a couple of hours at most, the whole zigbee comes crashing down and all devices become unresponsive, this always starts following this message:

asyncio.exceptions.InvalidStateError: invalid state

With deconz, it worked, sometimes there would be some delay with button presses, I generally didn't like the interface and wanted to move to zha to remove the dependency on an external integration. But would now move back in a heartbeat if it wasn't a multi-hour process. Ideally, I would get zha to stop failing, but am at a loss of what to do next.

eternal sparrow
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which is the "preferred" integration for zigbee, deconz or the "zigbee" integration in HA

obsidian sandalBOT
#

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are support. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah! and Slaesh's sticks being recommended. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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Take your pick - there is no "prefered", it's all personal

eternal sparrow
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i already have deconz running but its detecting my new sonoff S31 lite power outlets as lightbulbs

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and when i "trigger" it, it shuts off and on about 3 times each then ends up on the same state it started

fleet lodge
#

Z2M FTW

eternal sparrow
#

lulz

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usually you see someone doing thumbs up (initially)

lilac wharf
#

It's all a matter of preference

eternal sparrow
#

i was hoping there would be a clear reason why to chose zha or deconz (i understand the reason for mqtt)

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one being more bleeding edge...etc

lilac wharf
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Well, like zigbee2mqtt, deconz isn't dependent on home assistant, so that could be one reason to lean deconz

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As far as I'm aware, both ZHA and deconz are actively developed. It seems like more issues here are with deconz than ZHA but I don't know for sure and if it is true, that can be due to a number of factors tbh

eternal sparrow
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any idea what would happen if i stopped the deconz container, and installed the zha integration? it would still connect to same zigbee usb device

amber gull
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Yes

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Devices would not all come over though

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Unless you can get them to "announce " themselves

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(Not all can or do)

eternal sparrow
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yea, im assuming i would have to pair again but after the 2nd pairing, if i was to disable the zha and go back to deconz, would i have to do it all over again?

amber gull
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Yes

eternal sparrow
#

trying to measure LOE

amber gull
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Maybe

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Anything that uses a new 3.0 security method for joining would require repairing

eternal sparrow
#

hmm i wonder if there is an update for the deconz container...i set that up about a year ago and have not touched it

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so, no one (around) is using the Sonoff S31 Lite? want to see if anyone has had the same issue with the device toggling multiple times and just ending up on the same state as it started

amber gull
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A lot of people have been having issues with them yes

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I would assume it's maybe not acknowledging the frame and it's been resent?

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No one else specifically has had that problem but issues with stability

strange ibex
eternal sparrow
#

maybe... Its just super annoying that it ends up on the same state...if it would flicker but end up on the opposite state, i could deal w/ it

warped hatch
analog flicker
sour shadow
#

Well, sending

eternal sparrow
#

well all zigbee devices are not responding now, i guess i know what i will be doing today...

restive elbow
analog flicker
restive elbow
#

Nice, what are you doing with yours?

analog flicker
#

I want to use it for different automatons. "lock doors/ turn off lights" for example.

restive elbow
#

gotcha. I'm planning on putting one in my sons room. It's all Super Mario themed; the idea is to turn the cube to mario and the lights are red, luigi and the lights are green -- something like that.

analog flicker
#

Very cool!!! let me know your progress!

pallid swan
#

Hi, i have a Ikea Tradfri Light now its shown me that a Update is available, i don't know how i can update it over Mosquitto broker. can somebody help me? πŸ˜•

restive elbow
simple sentinel
pallid swan
simple sentinel
#

Not stupid at all, πŸ™‚ Hope things work out for you

pallid swan
#

i love this Frontend with the Map πŸ˜„

simple sentinel
#

It is quite nice!
Because of it I haven't had to learn MQTT yet πŸ˜›

#

πŸ¦₯

rapid solstice
#

i have a quick question about those IKEA Tradfri repeaters. I have some Xiaomi Temperature/Humidity sensors in my cellar. One of them has obviously a bad connection. So I ordered one of those repeaters and plugged it in in my cellar. But that didn't have any effect on that one sensor...
Do I somehow need to add the repeater to my ZigBee network? If so... how? I am using the deConz integration...
Thanks in advance πŸ™‚

simple sentinel
#

You can put it in pairing mode by pressing the reset button for 5 secs

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with a paper clip or something

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Added lots of tradfri stuff to my setup today, so it's all fresh in my memory πŸ™‚

rapid solstice
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you mean the repeater?

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of the sensor?

simple sentinel
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repeater

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oh wait

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It's not one of those usb-charger-y things, the other bulky one?

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that is, is it one of those bulky ones?

rapid solstice
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yes... it is... usb-charger

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I'll grab a link... uno momento πŸ™‚

simple sentinel
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the usb-charger one is the one I have

rapid solstice
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that one here

simple sentinel
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5 sec press of a paperclip in the reset hole

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when you let go the led will blink

rapid solstice
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ok... and in deconz? as what do I add it?

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sensor, light or switch? (it's neither πŸ˜„ that's why I am asking...)

simple sentinel
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hmmm, I am on z2m so, it's not gonna be exactly the same

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I don't think it will turn into a light if you add it as one, though

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but maybe sensor is the closest, even though it isn't

rapid solstice
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Cool!!! Light did the trick!!! Thanks for your quick help @simple sentinel !!!

simple sentinel
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Nais, out of curiosity, what did it end up listed as in deconz?, @rapid solstice

rapid solstice
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Light...

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but with different icons in deConz πŸ˜„

simple sentinel
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Wow? Okay, well hope it works πŸ™‚

rapid solstice
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one with a light icon, one with a cellular-thingy-icon

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Do you know if I now need to tell the sensor, that it should use that extender?

simple sentinel
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zigbee mesh is supposed to figure out the best route

rapid solstice
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At least the deConz VNC-App shows lines, and my sensors are still connected directly

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ok... will have a look again the next days πŸ™‚

strange ibex
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you can repair your end devices where they will be to try and get a better route a bit quicker

rapid solstice
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@strange ibex ok... but eventually they will figure it out themselfs? Cause one of the sensors didn't have any signal the last days...

strange ibex
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It should, from what I have heard.

rapid solstice
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cool... will have a look the next days! thanks for your help you two!!!

verbal shale
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Hi, I need help with a wireless switch 2 gang (TS0042) I did add to zha, and recognize power on off in 2 buttons and battery status

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how to configure now tap, tap and hold 2 seconds and double tap in those 2 buttons?

dry fossil
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What do the instructions in the packaging say?