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lilac wharf
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Open /config/.storage/core.device_registry and see if you find it there

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If so, make a copy of the file as a backup, delete the device from there, and restart HA

remote patio
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here's the problem

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                "identifiers": [                                                
                    [                                                           
                        "zha",                                                  
                        "00:15:8d:00:01:56:01:1f"                               
                    ],                                                          
                    [                                                           
                        "deconz",                                               
                        "00:15:8d:00:01:56:01:1f"                               
                    ]                                                           
                ],
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so theoretically I can shut down HA, remove the deconz identifier and restart and it SHOULD be removed from that integration right?

lilac wharf
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I don't know the context of that JSON snippet

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Need to see above

remote patio
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or does one of those config entries need to go to? not sure what they're for

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sorry,, that's just a key pair.. that needs to stay

lilac wharf
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I believe one of those config entries and IDs needs to go

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That's not a key, value pair, it's a list

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Go to Deconz at configuration > integrations

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You should see ?config_entry= with a base 16 string after it in the URL

remote patio
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I was thinking of connections when I said that.... considering if I should just remove the device in zha and then nuke the entire entry and re-add it.. seems safer

lilac wharf
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Which device are you trying to remove

gentle flint
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You can get an elelabs stick for$10 cheaper and more modern hardware. Unless you need zwave...

remote patio
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@lilac wharf the instance linked to deconz

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but I assume if I remove it from the zha integration (and it's already removed from the deconz integration) then remove that entire entry in the device_registry and start up HA again I should be able to just add it to ZHA again and all will be fine?

lilac wharf
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Should just be able to remove the deconz config entry ID and identifier from the device entry for it

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Again though, make a copy of the file as a backup in case it screws something up

remote patio
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e61a65413e924a64b99370f463999150 seems to be everywhere

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0f50033475bf702ecc970bcc75d92902 is just this and the new zwave device

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so I assume I remove e61a65413e924a64b99370f463999150

lilac wharf
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Lines 3 and 4 in your pastebin above

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One of those should be the deconz integration config entry ID

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Remove the one that's the deconz config entry ID, then also remove the deconz identifier

remote patio
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I believe it's the 1st one which is all throught the file

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yep... let's see how it goes

lilac wharf
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You can check there ☝️

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Don't just blindly delete it

remote patio
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I don't see where I would find ?config_entry= once I go to the Deconz integration

lilac wharf
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In the URL, forgot to type that part

remote patio
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ah! ok.. I assumed correctly with regards to which entry.. now to see if that fixes the device triggers

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hmm.. better.. but doesn't seem to match what's in the device_trigger file for that device..

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it has some, but not all of those triggers

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has all the short presses.. but not the releases or the long press.. those subtypes are defined at the top.. so I wonder where's it's going wrong.

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ah.. I'm looking in the wrong place

lilac wharf
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I use neither ZHA nor Deconz 😄

remote patio
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I had planned to use z2m but device triggers there were even less developed. will need to see what's involved with improving that too

lilac wharf
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State triggers work just fine

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Zigbee2mqtt exposes an action entity for buttons/remotes unlike ZHA and I believe deconz

remote patio
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it doesn't pre-fill the available states

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that is the only feature currently motivating me to find a solution

lilac wharf
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True, but you can grab those by pressing buttons

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Either way, I'm not sure about the current state of device triggers with z2m

remote patio
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that's what I'm trying to figure out.. it was implemented early this year.. just trying to find where it populates the available triggers for this device from.

austere patio
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The automation triggers are at the very bottom of the class definition

remote patio
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Thanks! it never occurred to me that the device triggers would be outside of zha itself 😛

austere patio
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Way too many devices out there to keep this all in ZHA

remote patio
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it appears to be missing some..

austere patio
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Which ones?

remote patio
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btw.. how did you highlight that section in the link?

austere patio
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Click on the line number, hold shift, and click on another one

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Click on the three dots to get a permalink. Otherwise if the file is updated, those lines may not contain what you originally had

remote patio
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here's the deconz list of device triggers which is complete (though quintuple is misleading as it covers 5 or more)

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it's called MANY under z2m I think

austere patio
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COMMAND_FURIOUS

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I have the round button as well but I don't think it sends out anything but these

remote patio
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ahh.. that doesn't show up under the triggers.. but quintuple does

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maybe there's a mapping somewhere

austere patio
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They're the same thing

remote patio
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oh yes.. right there at the bottom

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exactly where I looked before

austere patio
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Why, I do not know

remote patio
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in joke? 😛

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so it's missing the hold and the two release actions

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the hold is probably the most important of those

austere patio
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I don't think hold exists

remote patio
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short press in zha might actually be mapped to the short release.

austere patio
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The device just sends on_off=0 and on_off=1

remote patio
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well it exists as far as the device is concerned.. don't know about zha/zigpy

austere patio
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I'm looking at the logs

remote patio
austere patio
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Device sends on_off=0 when you press it, and on_off=1 when you release it

remote patio
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it's implemented on the original xiaomi gateway. so maybe it's a calculated thing.. would have to look at z2m code to see what it's doing

austere patio
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There's no specific attribute update or other manufacturer-specific thing that tells you how long it's been held

remote patio
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maybe it waits for a press and if there's no release in a given time it counts it as a hold

austere patio
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Yeah, it's likely calculated based on the attribute update times

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You should be able to do that yourself though

remote patio
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but I'd need release triggers

austere patio
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5 Euro Aqara buttons

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Those were the days

remote patio
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the round ones are great.. the square ones suck.. though I've not used the 2nd gen square ones.. even the click on the square ones I have is subpar and unreliable

austere patio
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I had the square squircular one as a doorbell but its delay was annoying

remote patio
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squircular ? is that the square one with the round button inside?

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I don't see why there would be a delay.. unless the zigbee signal was very weak

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Squircular sounds like a Pokemon

austere patio
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The Aqara one has like a 300ms delay (maybe longer??) for debouncing

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So it doesn't have to send two reports for button press and release

remote patio
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how is less than 1/3 of a second too long for a doorbell? even the purpose built doorbell we have is much worse than that

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zha isn't waiting for a release.. it's using the press as the click, not the release.. just tested it by holding the button down on my one and only zha connected device

austere patio
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You should be able to pick up any attribute update as an event though

remote patio
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I'm all about being able to use the UI automation editor with drop down menus for the triggers

austere patio
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Ah

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Yeah that may be the case

remote patio
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plus I haven't looked at this yet, but wouldn't hand crafted automations be more difficult to turn into blueprints? don't know if they are, just seems like that could be a thing

desert cloak
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Tried to change the topic back and removed the mqtt integration twice, but did not help.

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2021-01-12 08:40:11 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.util.logging] Exception in state_received when handling msg on 'zigbee2mqtt/light.upstairs_pink': '{"update_available":true}'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.8/site-packages/homeassistant/components/mqtt/debug_info.py", line 35, in wrapper
msg_callback(msg)
File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.8/site-packages/homeassistant/components/mqtt/light/schema_json.py", line 219, in state_received
if values["state"] == "ON":
KeyError: 'state'

desert cloak
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Hmm. After few more attempts to remove / re-add integration seems to be able to control these from HA again, but now all devices are using friendly names. weird.

azure tinsel
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Is there a way to make some sort of backup plan for my zigbee config. All of our house is zigbee lights and switches. When zigbee crashes absolutely nothing will work anymore. So I would like to have 2 controllers on 2 systems that can act as a backup when one of the 2 is failing

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Can you have 2 controllers/hubs on 1 network

sour shadow
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Depends on your chosen integration and stick AFAIK

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I know with Z2M for instance I can migrate compatible controllers without re-pairing, but I believe it causes some delays on the first start while things work themselves out

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Of course, I also don't have Zigbee crashing on me... you should investigate that 😉

azure tinsel
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Yeah I'm not sure what is the problem. I know conbee2 with a virtualmachine environment isnt ideal. But I think I have a faulty stick

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But sometimes it does work so I'm not really sure what the problem is

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As from the beginning I had trouble with the conbee 2 not being found by HA after a reboot. I fixed that or atleast I knew how to not loose it in HA. But now it is shown in HA but ZHA gives me the error that conbee2 can not be configured

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I ordered a nortek stick now. I hope this stick is more steady in a virtual environment

sour shadow
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Well, either the stick is faulty, or the virtual environment has problems - I've never heard of a stick only misbehaving in a virtual machine, but there's a first for everything 🤷

azure tinsel
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I think the biggest problem is that the conbee2 stick has its own OS on the stick itself.

sour shadow
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All sticks have firmware - an OS like thing

azure tinsel
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I really hope the nortek does a better job then 😅

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But I really think the conbee2 is damaged. When I put it in a Windows 10 machine I hear the connect/disconnect usb sound every 10 seconds constantly

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In the device manager the list is updated every 10 seconds trying to connect and disconnect the thing. It's a wonder that it keeps working in virtual box for this long doing that

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I don't know if it's normal that windows is struggling so much with the conbee2 or that it needs to stay connected

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But a virtual machine isn't ideal... Not with windows last night it rebooted after an update and this morning non of the lights responded because ha wasn't started. I'm really gonna break windows update tonight. Which idiot came up with the idea to automatically reboot after an update...

sour shadow
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Well, that's Windows + VBox for you

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I run Z2M on a VM, using QEMU (Proxmox) - no issues

azure tinsel
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I really need to read myself into linux more. I'm a real windows fanboy which works perfect. But is far from ideal when it comes to setting up servers or home automation

sour shadow
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Windows desktop for servers is .... not a great choice 😛

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If you were running actual Windows Server there, it'd be different

azure tinsel
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One last question. When I backup the zigbee.db file should I in theory be able to replace a zigbee stick and reload that db and everything works again or is a part of the config stored in the zigbee stick itself

sour shadow
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I think that's in the channel history - for Z2M you can migrate between compatible sticks. I assume the same is the case for ZHA, but shrug

azure tinsel
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I will test this before I setup everything. It's pretty important for me that this is the case. I really don't want to setup 100 devices all over again... One time is enough

mellow geode
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If you use an EZSP based chips (bellows library) with ZHA, you can move to another one. The same is the case for TI based chips (using zigpy_znp). Both libraries provide backup tools for the stick.
I'm not sure about deCONZ though.

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Yeah, I think switching from deCONZ to a EZSP based stick (Nortek) will require re-pairing all devices.

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It's the information saved on the stick itself that's not cross compatible. I think even with Z2M you need to make a backup of your stick before moving to another one. AFAIK it isn't possible to move frmo deCONZ to bellows.

azure tinsel
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Thanks for this helpful info @mellow geode can you point me to how I backup an EZSP stick

mellow geode
azure tinsel
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This is extremely helpful thank you

thick narwhal
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What worked for me. Instaling deconz and updating the firmware in windows itself (with VM turned off). And you always need to plugin the device before starting the virtual machine. And if you unplug it (or do something with it, not sure what exactly) I had to restart PC, then VM. Eventually my Raspberry came and I migrated, but now I sometimes have issues with some devices not responding on first try.

deft geyser
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After having removed a device from Phoscon, what is needed in order to have HA "forget/remove" the decvice. Reloading phoscon integration wasnt enough, neither was restarting HA 🙂

calling deconz.remove_orphaned_entries aparently 🙂

azure tinsel
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@thick narwhal for me it worked to just close Virtualbox and restart it then start home assistant. The stick will keep working as long as not full reboot of ha is done. So o restarted ha only from the file manager to restart hass

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This way it kept working.. until the power outage.. after that it became worse. Now the stick is always found by ha but zha gives an error that it can't confige the conbee2 stick

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By the way I installed deconz on windows but the device isn't found

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It just keeps connecting and disconnect every few seconds so I hear the connect/disconnect usb sound in Windows every few seconds

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And that never stops

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For some reason I managed to get into the browser of the damn thing a few days ago and successfully updated its firmware in there. But that doesn't fix the problem. I guess I have a faulty one. Unless everyone here has the same problems with connecting and disconnecting in windows

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I guess I just have to wait until the nortek stick arrives in a few days and see if that one is stable

analog flicker
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If I went with some Aqara door and motion sensors as my only zigbee devices will it work, or do I need mains powered zigbee devices mixed in? I have several zwave switches already installed throughout the house, but no zigbee.

sour shadow
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If that's a two or three room flat, you'll be fine

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There's a pinned message about how the mesh works (spoiler - much like Z-Wave)

dry fossil
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When I realised you pinned that, I edited it to make more sense 😄

sour shadow
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😄

dry fossil
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Was half tempted to edit it to something rude 🤔

analog flicker
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Appreciate you guys putting up with my noob-level questions. 🙂

sour shadow
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The only way to learn is to ask questions when you don't know stuff

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Well, assuming you actually listen... I know too many that don't 😂

azure tinsel
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I guess he is talking about me 🤣

sour shadow
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Oh, trust me, you're a long way from those people 😉

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If you weren't, you'd be on my block list 😄

amber gull
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What are you saying? Sorry

azure tinsel
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You guys helped me allot and am very greatful we have this discord. Else I would never have come this far

sour shadow
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That's how it worked for us too 😉

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(and still does)

analog flicker
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I tried setting up ZHA and I am getting "failed to connect", and this is what pops up in the logs: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/btp8n8D4jC/

as far as I am aware I have the usb pathing correct, the zwave portion of the stick is working just fine.

sour shadow
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What's the stick?

analog flicker
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Nortek HUSBZB-1

sour shadow
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And USB1 is the Z-Wave side then?

analog flicker
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oooooooooooh. I run HA in docker in unraid. I passed usb0 through as a device, I bet I need to passthrough usb1 as a second device too?

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I was thinking it was an all in one passthrough.

sour shadow
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Nah, each device path is unique 😉

analog flicker
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personal opinion, would you go with zigbee or zwave for battery powered sensors throughout your home?

violet dagger
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this is the moment i wish i could post images here

analog flicker
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why lol

sour shadow
analog flicker
sour shadow
analog flicker
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Just seems like there are so many more zigbee options.

sour shadow
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There's no right answer, or wrong one, pick the solution that works for you

violet dagger
sour shadow
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Sadly, you don't get embeds, sorry 😄

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I prefer my Z-Wave devices - I can configure them and they're generally more stable.
I like my Zigbee devices - they're cheap 😄

violet dagger
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oh, didnt even see i got privileged

sour shadow
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Well, you can paste images directly in chat now

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🤫 don't tell anybody

golden vessel
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is there any docs on source routing in zha+bellows? I couldn't find them

azure tinsel
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Why can't I? I want that too I have so much greats to share

teal mist
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Does anyone have a UK zigbee power switch that has energy monitoring for a large appliance? I can find a few that have US plugs but struggling for a UK plug.

sour shadow
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Define "large"

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What's the current draw?

teal mist
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Washing machine as an example. I'm moving so don't have an example just yet but thinking ahead.

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Never heard of Salus. Thanks I'll have a look

sour shadow
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I'm sure there's more, but that one I have so I know it 😄

teal mist
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Ah that looks ideal. I don't care for the size of it since it's going to be hidden in the back of a cabinet

azure tinsel
sour shadow
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The Hive switch does power too - forgot about that

teal mist
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I did look through amazon but a load don't do energy monitoring which was the main purpose I wanted one

azure tinsel
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Xiaomi Aqara switches do monitor power. But I have no idea if they make them with uk plug.

sour shadow
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Fortunately there's pinned hardware lists 😉

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There's a few more on the lists, including a bunch of white-label ones

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Trouble is, none of the pages say what their supported load is

teal mist
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All good. I'll keep researching. Just wondered if anyone had one that could recommend. Thanks for your help both of you

sour shadow
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I haven't loaded either the Hive or the Salus, but both work well

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I have a slight preference for the Salus, purely based on size

teal mist
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I've found the Salus on amazon for £35 so might take a punt and hope I don't burn the house down 😄

sour shadow
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The button on the Hive does light up however, if that's a factor that matters 😄

teal mist
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Nah. I have a washing machine in mind so it's going to be behind that anyway

sour shadow
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Well, the button for the Salus is on top, so likely more accessible if you need to turn off washing machine manually

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(I don't think I've used the button on either since I fitted them... other than ensuring they work)

teal mist
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I've not used any button on my wifi switches either. But trying to move to all zigbee so life is a bit simpler

crystal socket
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updated my GoControl HUSBZB-1 to the latest firmware but continue getting zigbee devices fail to checkin - i have powered devices less than 4 feet away from them. but they just checkin once, then miss checkins, then go away. I have 7 Ecolink Wireless Door/Window 4655BC0-R - but 3 of them exhibit this behavior, the others are fine. HA 2021.1.1 on Pi4
Any thoughts on what to try next?

amber gull
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What routers and parents?

crystal socket
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how can i tell that?

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(also i think you helped me a bit way back in dec - just finally got around to updating my usb stick 🙂)

azure tinsel
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I wonder why update when everything worked fine

crystal socket
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if you're replying to me - this is the same behavior as before the update

azure tinsel
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I'm no expert... But have you tried to pair them again?

crystal socket
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many many times 🙂

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works for an hour or so then just fails to checkin, then goes unavailable

amber gull
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You can tell that from your visualization map in the ZHA config

crystal socket
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i think you mentioned that before, but i could not find where that map was in the ui

azure tinsel
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Zha integration 3rd tab if I'm correct

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I can't post pictures here else I would show you

obsidian sandalBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

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crystal socket
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ahh i see, thanks

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yes, so my front door is connected to the repeater just a few feet away from it, but exhibits this behavior still

austere patio
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The zigbee.db database only holds information about joined devices. Everything about your network is stored on the stick itself

azure tinsel
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Not really sure what that all means but I will look it up

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I'm pretty new to how zigbee works.

austere patio
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You can convert a backup of a Silicon Labs stick, like the HUSBZB-1, into a backup of a Texas Instruments stick and move your network over

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Reverse is also possible but not automated

azure tinsel
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Oh well I lost everything in the process so I have to start from scratch

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It's more like I want to back it up when I set it up this time

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So that I don't have to do this all over again in the future

austere patio
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Maybe the Conbee is different but you shouldn't randomly lose your network settings. ZHA has no way to reset them.

azure tinsel
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No it's just a faulty stick I guess. I can't even connect to it in windows anymore

amber gull
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@crystal socket What is the make/model of the repeater by the front door?

austere patio
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Non-virtualized?

mellow geode
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Not the best combination

crystal socket
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@amber gull SONOFF S31 Lite Zigbee Smart Plug US Type

azure tinsel
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How does the nortek work with Virtualbox is it having the same issues?

amber gull
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What's the IEEE of the sonoff S31, just out of curiousity?

crystal socket
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IEEE: 00:12:4b:00:1e:72:03:fb - Device Type: Router

mellow geode
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You mentioned that there's the constant "device (dis-)connected" sound on Windows. Could you already try to see if another PC also shows the same issue with your stick?

amber gull
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helfire, that's a Texas Instruments IEEE -- what about the parents for your other non working sensors?

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Gut feeling would be that the S31 plug is breaking your mesh

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Anyone else use the Sonoff S31 Zigbee lite?

austere patio
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Doesn't the entire Sonoff/eWeLink (or whatever they are called...) line use CC2530s?

amber gull
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the 2530 really puts the lite in "lite"

austere patio
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Yep, the sensors do

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Z-Stack 3.0.1 woo

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So does the S31

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FCC filings have massive close-ups of the CC2530. I have a feeling they may not have applied all of the random patches in the TI forums to make their routers more stable

amber gull
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@crystal socket Can you remove the S31 for a few days and see if that helps?

austere patio
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I doubt this is the best place to ask, but does anyone have the Sonoff zigbee bridge? Have there ever even been firmware updates for their sensors?

molten linden
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do their sensor have an OTA cluster?

austere patio
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Pretty sure they do. I'll have to double check

molten linden
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I got an ewelink bulb.. and it doesn't

crystal socket
molten linden
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just checked motion and temp and neither have the OTA cluster

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I ran a sonoff S31 lite through christmas for my tree lights, and it did okay, but it was a short time frame.

austere patio
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No wonder they aren't replying to my emails asking about OTA 😆

amber gull
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Does restarting the S31 bring back the sensors?

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No OTA, boo

molten linden
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yup better hope all there devices have perfect FW. lol

lilac wharf
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So...I shouldn't have bought four motion sensors and two contact? 😅

austere patio
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They tested them really well. Why would you want OTA?

crystal socket
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I have tried - but there are 3 other of the same sensors across the room connected to it that never drop

molten linden
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in all seriousness what contact sensor has had an OTA update...

lilac wharf
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That's fair

amber gull
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some crazy guy wrote firmware for a battery powered switch once, I heard

austere patio
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Yeah don't run that

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It's called OccupancySensor because it's a two button switch and I totally didn't copy/paste the simplest SDK example.

crystal socket
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so if other of the same devices are routing fine through the s31, and the firmware update did nothing, should i just RMA the "bad" ones and try new ones? maybe 1/2 those would work too 😞 - then i'd be almost up to all my doors

amber gull
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if the other sensors are taking the same route, then yes -- may be an issue with that sensor or it's location

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Assume you have replaced batteries?

crystal socket
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indeed, first thing i tried

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my garage has the same problem,but the home assistant is only 1 wall and a few feet away from the S31(in the garage) - 2 of the garage sensors show the behavior - so a much cleaner location rf wise, but same behavior

amber gull
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Have you swapped sesnor locations? Put a working reliable sensor in a location that has been having issues, and vice versa?

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That would tell you if it's RF/environmental or issue with the sensor

crystal socket
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true

amber gull
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These are all the ecolinks? I have several running around and I don't think I could get them to unpair if I tried

crystal socket
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yes. and thats why i bought these as i thought they'd be reliable

amber gull
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Did you pay $14 for them on Amazon? 😬

lilac wharf
crystal socket
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are the amazon ones worse than a different vendor?

amber gull
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No, was just curious -- bought loads of them on ebay for $4 a pop

crystal socket
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ok, but if they're the same devices i'm not sure what it matters for debugging

surreal rune
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Hi, I've 3 gang Aqara wall switches, after pairing with ZHA, the domain entity is become light.xxxx instead of switch.xxxx , as 2 gang qara wall switches is fine with switch.xxxx , how to changes this ?

amber gull
surreal rune
surreal rune
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@amber gull it's working. thank you for assist

golden vessel
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Is source routing recommended for EZSP, for a network with more than 50 devices?

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Also, any issue with turning it on and off? I assume it would not mess up anything (nor need re-pairing)?

amber gull
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Yes, recommended north of 40 devices

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Can be easily turned on and off, should not create any issues, definitely will not do anything with pairing

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For all EZSP radios now, it's probably ready for prime time to just be turned on by default

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already default in zstack for ZNP radios

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Sniffing you will see MTORR cycle every few minutes after enabling too

golden vessel
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By the way, I've seen that deconz now allows the user to define manual routes. Is that coming to ZHA? 😄

amber gull
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Got a link to what they did? I assume for outbound routes from the coordinator?

austere patio
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Is that separate from their application-side route planning?

whole crown
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As well as adding features to Zigzag https://github.com/Samantha-uk/one/tree/main/home-assistant/zigzag-panel, I'm interested in adding plugins to support other zigbee integrations than ZHA.
As a straw poll may guide my development effort, I'd appreciate you reacting to this post indicating the zigbee integration you use in Home Assistant.
1️⃣ ZHA
2️⃣ zigbee2mqtt
3️⃣ deCONZ
4️⃣ Other (Reply with what it is)
5️⃣ Other (Reply with what it is)
6️⃣ Other (Reply with what it is)

lilac wharf
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Would be better to set up a poll on the forum, it'll probably get buried here

whole crown
lilac wharf
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When creating a new topic, click the ⚙️ and then "Build Poll"

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That will bring up a wizard 🧙‍♂️

austere patio
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Finally got a ZZH lockup

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Yeah it's dead. Nothing at all coming in over serial 😦

golden vessel
golden vessel
strange ibex
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I updated the firmware on my ZZH for the first time in a long while. Nothing looks connected on the map and nothing works. 😛 Will it sort itself after a day or so or do I need to redo everything?

sour shadow
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taking notes to see if I should just avoid firmware updating the ZZH

shut zodiac
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hi, could anyone help me with installing a quirk?

strange ibex
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😛

obsidian sandalBOT
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@shut zodiac Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
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shut zodiac
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i am not sure where to start

lilac wharf
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@strange ibex trying turning on smart outlets, pressing buttons on sensors, etc.

shut zodiac
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i have done some googling but i am not seeing much

lilac wharf
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I updated the firmware on my ZZH a few weeks ago, just had to turn some plugs on and off a few times and it seemed fine shortly after that

strange ibex
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will do, thanks

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I think that was working with motion sensors but couldn't get the lights to do 'er

lilac wharf
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@sour shadow (look above to calm your nerves)

strange ibex
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and no button on the ikea plugs 😛

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other than reset button

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maybe it sends out a signal if I single press

sour shadow
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Turn them off and on again 😛

strange ibex
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they aren't connected, lmao

lilac wharf
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Just do it though

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Power cycle them

strange ibex
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yee, tried. will try some more

lilac wharf
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Ask them nicely

strange ibex
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please papi

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🏓

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okay, I got half of my devices back

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working on the rest

shut zodiac
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i mean, i really don't know what else to say. i am wondering if anyone out there can help me from the beginning to install a quirk. i have the file that someone made

austere patio
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If you're not writing a quirk you can skip those parts but it does explain how to install a quirk that has not been included in the repo yet

shut zodiac
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yeah i am not writing it. they have the .py file already for the sengled switch

austere patio
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Is the quirk not in zha-device-handlers?

shut zodiac
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yes it is

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it was put there 4 days ago

austere patio
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But replace zha-quirks==0.0.38 with git+https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/

shut zodiac
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hmmmm

austere patio
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50% chance HA will downgrade the package when it starts up. Not sure how home assistant OS does that.

strange ibex
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okay, I think I have everything with a last seen now

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I think the mailbox is going to reach too

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yay

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I was looking like a crazy person out there with a screw driver and might have broken it to where it may split but hey

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we will find out

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hrmm, not sure if my hue sensor is alive but it is way in the air

shut zodiac
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so - zha-quirks==0.0.38 would be - git+https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/

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?

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@austere patio or am i not understanding you right

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or - zha-quirks==git+https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/

austere patio
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The first one

obsidian sandalBOT
shut zodiac
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that is what i get

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oh

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#

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shut zodiac
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heh

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omg omg omg omg

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lol

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sorry, i am super happy

austere patio
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Seems like it worked

shut zodiac
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lol

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you are correct

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lol

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thank you so much

austere patio
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Someone should update the zha-device-handlers documentation with that git+... URL

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Of all the ZHA repos that people would want to install the latest version of, that seems like it would be the most common

shut zodiac
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ok, so 2019 xmas i switched from smartthings to HA. i lost those switches at that point

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someone said, just do something with the events and so on. i had no clue and to this point still didn't so they sit on my desk. today i was looking at blueprints and someone had a blueprint for this switch but you needed to install the quirk

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no documentation on it. i thought i had to compile stuff but i am on a vm of home assistant

austere patio
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The benefits of open source lol

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Little documentation but in theory anything is possible

shut zodiac
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lol

amber gull
shut zodiac
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if i had my remote audio on i would know what that was. lol

gentle flint
austere patio
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Does deCONZ expose frame counters?

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I guess you could extract those with a sniffer or pick some enormous offset and hope it works

golden vessel
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so, I have a friend starting with zigbee... the guy has ikea 10 bulbs connected to a single switch! Is it safe to have 10 devices joining ZHA at once? 😄

austere patio
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I think you can with bulbs and the right coordinator lol

golden vessel
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Ikea bulbs and an elelabs stick with zha_ng fw? 😀

strange ibex
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I usually just search through the zigbee2mqtt supported devices

golden vessel
gentle flint
analog flicker
violet dagger
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what kind of experience?

analog flicker
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good or bad. trying to research opinions and all you ever find with google are people having issues 😁

violet dagger
analog flicker
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lmao is that your gif

violet dagger
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its not me in the gif

surreal imp
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how do i change the /dev/ mapping with loosing my devices?

austere patio
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For what? ZHA?

surreal imp
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yes i have the integration installed and changed hosts. went from docker to esxi vm and only part that i cant seem to get running is zha

austere patio
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Recursively grep for /dev/ in the folder with configuration.yaml, it's in a JSON file in some hidden directory in there

surreal imp
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ok, but unfortunately thats greek to me... i dive on these projects to learn but the WAF is dropping fast... its dark and the lights arent working.

austere patio
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Ah. Lemme find the exact path

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The USB path is stored in .storage/core.config_entries, in the same folder as your configuration.yaml file

surreal imp
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Thank you @austere patio !

lilac wharf
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Make a copy of that file first as a backup in case something goes wrong when editing

surreal imp
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Gotta commit that to the auto pilot. fortunately the restart was successful. no zha devices yet.

austere patio
surreal imp
austere patio
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FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_C0F003D3-if01-port0'

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What does ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/ say?

lilac wharf
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Make sure it's passed through to the VM

surreal imp
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i got that from hassos cli ha hardware info

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it is passed

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oops found it i think

#

that from the zha page i need to change the "cof....." part

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they are all online. thank you! sorry for the copy/paste error.

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Snapshot complete, downloaded and backed up.

mighty river
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(ZHA-sonoff ZB Bridge and MoesHY368(TuyaThermostat)) Anyone have problem after last HA update? In my case ZHA lost all min_tem, max_temp readings. And dont work stable.

azure tinsel
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I'm using a Aqara hub for my zigbee devices atm connected to ha with homekit. But I miss allot of entities like power consumption on the Aqara smart plugs and air pressure on the humidity sensors. Is there a way to get these with homekit. Or do I need to connect these separately with zha? Zha get these values without any problem. And is this a homekit, home assistant, or Aqara problem?

sour shadow
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Well, I'd check the status in the HomeKit app - if they show there then it's at least supported and could be a limitation of HA's HomeKit integration

azure tinsel
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I only use homekit in home assistant I don't have any apple products. But homekit integration works so damn sweet with my hue bridge

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When I saw that Aqara hub also supported homekit I was very happy. It works very sweet but missing some info. I think I'll connect the missing ones to the nortek stick when it arrives.

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Air pressure is t really interesting. Only the power usage of the plug I need. So I know when the washing machine is ready

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I thought maybe there is a way to add these entities somewhere to force them being updated. But I guess if the Aqara hub isn't sending them there is no point of adding them in ha

sour shadow
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Well, could be that the hub doesn't expose it over HomeKit.
Could be that HA's HomeKit integration doesn't process that data.

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#integrations-archived might know, but given that 99% of folks posting about HomeKit have their questions unanswered I doubt it

azure tinsel
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Thanks I will look on the internet also. Not allot I can find about homekit and Aqara. I have seen some screenshots of humidity sensors by homekit users where I don't see the airpressure value too. So I guess it's an Aqara hub thing. The easiest way is to just remove the smart plug from the Aqara hub and connect it to the nortek stick. I know for sure that it works in zha. I used it with the conbee2 stick in the past

proud hawk
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can anyone help in how I can translate a zigbee command that I run from the cluster gui in zha to a service call?

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I am selecting a
cluster id: DanfossThermostatCloster (Endpoint id: 1, Id: 0x0201, Type: in)
cluster attributes: pi_heating_demand (id: 0x0008)
how should this be used in a zha.set_zigbee_cluster_attribute service call either to get or set the value?

mighty river
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I have also installed the Node-Red plugin. I could therefore also do it with it. (if it is easier)

sour shadow
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Faster than every 5 seconds?

mighty river
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5 or 10 seconds would be good. I thought I only had to re-solder the sensor, but apparently I have to do something else so that the sensor reports the status e.g. every 5 seconds. Currently the status still changes every 90 seconds (like without the hack).

obsidian path
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Are there a way to change the 'tholddark' on a Conbee connected Philips Hue Motion Sensor through HA, or do I need to use the deCONZ API?

sour shadow
mighty river
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the node-red specifications seem to work only with deCONZ and not with ZBBridge.

sour shadow
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Well, in Z2M I can tell it to clear after a second if I want

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So, as I said, you'll need to make that change in Tasmota, if it's even possible

mighty river
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ok. thx

mellow geode
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Since I'm using ZHA with HassOS, I did a backup on a separate (Linux) PC using zigpy-znp and then flashed the firmware. Restore process of the backup also worked just fine.

amber gull
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That will let you configure the reset

strange ibex
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Restore it? Back to the firmware it was already on?

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It's all sorted now by itself

tulip hill
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Guys, I'm using Z2M with HA. Everything works but when electricity goes off and on again the zigbee devices reconnect but will not report correct state. Main problem are light bulbs. They are off before power outage and on (by default) after power goes back up. But HA still thinks they are off. Did anyone managed to solve it?

mighty river
mellow geode
tulip hill
mellow geode
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Might be unrelated, but are they running on the latest firmware?

amber gull
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All public firmware versions should support attribute reporting

tulip hill
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They are running old one because OTA does not work right now.

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Do you think new FW fixed this?

austere patio
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OTA should be working fine now

mellow geode
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(He's running Z2M)

mellow geode
tulip hill
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Yep, Z2M has long lasting OTA problems because FW images are corrupted.

mellow geode
tulip hill
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Changed the settings and will do testing now.

austere patio
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Ah, yeah. They'll pull the OTA stuff from zigpy eventually 😛

wispy walrus
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should the reconfigure devices be able to rename the devices? I am not able to rename the devices after first discovery

tropic depot
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rename it using the cog in the top right of the HA device page

vital lotus
#

Hey, anyone know what's going on with this error from Z2M?

# 
ERROR: Request 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/request/permit_join' failed with error: 'SREQ '--> AF - dataRequestExt - {"dstaddrmode":2,"dstaddr":"0x000000000000fffd","destendpoint":242,"dstpanid":0,"srcendpoint":242,"clusterid":33,"transid":3,"options":0,"radius":30,"len":6,"data":{"type":"Buffer","data":[25,4,2,11,254,0]}}' failed with status '(0x10: MEM_ERROR)' (expected '(0x00: SUCCESS)')'
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I'm guessing the USB sniffer zigbee stick is out of memory, but I've been using it for over a year without issues.

austere patio
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Try unplugging it and plugging it back in or retrying the request

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What version of Z-Stack are you running?

vital lotus
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I've reflashed my CC2531 with the SOURCE_ROUTING firmware which seems to have solved the issue

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But I still can't pair my old devices, hm.

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Maybe I'll give it some time for the network to settle

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I think I have a new problem. The latest version of Z2M seems to be mis-identifying my UK sockets as EU sockets. Not sure if that's an issue.

azure tinsel
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just found out that all double light switches of aqara only show the first button when it is connected through homekit with Home assistant. Are more people having these issues and how could i fix this? Can i some how add the second button manually?

sour shadow
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If that's the Lidl one, I see that too, but haven't checked to see if an issue has been opened, or if a fix is in the works

golden vessel
sour shadow
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AFAIK display - everything works

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Certainly didn't cause the socket to spontaneously change into an EU one

strange ibex
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my sockets show up as other country jazz too

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I doubt it matters and doubt I will ever see US plugs 😛

#

serenade me

amber gull
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Saxaboom!

pastel trail
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newbie question: I have 10 Zigbee Ecosmart dimmable lights in my hallway way - I will like to adjust all of them at once. How can I go about that if someone can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance.

obsidian sandalBOT
sour shadow
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There's also Zigbee groups, how you use them though depends on your chosen integration

old kernel
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I have a whole bunch of osram lightify bulbs that I am hooking up, but a bunch of them are still in devices with separate wall switches and the like. When the ones in the middle of the house are off, the ones near the edges don't work (not a surprise).

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What are some good / useful hardwired zigbee devices I could add into the mesh to add some stability?

sour shadow
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Well, the problem is most devices connect to one parent

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So, the answer is don't turn off the smart bulbs

old kernel
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I can do that for some of them, but a bunch of them only get used like once every few weeks, so leaving them powered all the time is kind of a waste of electricity

sour shadow
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Then don't put smart bulbs there

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Sounds like you need smart switches not smart bulbs 😉

old kernel
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Smart switches aren't color-changing 😛

golden vessel
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If you can live with the possibility of the network failing for a bit after you turn off those lights, its fine

old kernel
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Yeah I don't mind short outages after powering them off

sour shadow
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And by a bit, maybe an hour or more 😉

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Some devices, like Xiaomi, may not reconnect

mossy valley
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The lights need to turned off via the software, but not physically. Power usage in standby mode is neglectable.

golden vessel
sour shadow
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Should

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But the correct answer is don't do that shrug

austere patio
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Have you seen the standby current for these bulbs?

mossy valley
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Tell me

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Which ones specifically?

old kernel
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around 0.4 watts per bulb is the listed standby current for the lightify bulbs, it looks like

mossy valley
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Those are Zigbee?

austere patio
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No I mean that as a question. I don't think it's very high

old kernel
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multiply that by 15 bulbs, yeah it's only 8 watts

mossy valley
mossy valley
golden vessel
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deconz now allows user-defined routes... it would allow you to manually set the routes, bypassing those lights

sour shadow
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I suspect it's not even 0.4W

austere patio
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Doesn't mean that incoming messages from other devices will take those same paths

golden vessel
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ah, its only from coordinator to device?

austere patio
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Yeah, you specify the route that you want the packet to take manually but other devices don't keep track of it, from what I can tell

golden vessel
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right. let's forget about deconz then! 😄

austere patio
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They just keep sending replies the way they usually do

old kernel
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73693 for the A19s and 73701 for the BR30s

mossy valley
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I think it will be about 20mA to 50mA, which means a little over 0.01w

old kernel
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guess i should find my kill-a-watt and check. That low and i'll just leave them on

mossy valley
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My uncle uses the KAKU/Trust lights via the ICS-2000, way before I started with Home Assistant (Would like to replace it) he has the lights connected to 230V immediately after the breaker, there is no physical switch inbetween 😂

old kernel
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which admittedly now i'm looking at it is a plug, not a bulb

mossy valley
old kernel
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My intention was to put in more of these... With 40-50, I would be looking at about $40 per year of standby power

sour shadow
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If you want to have some bulbs that you don't keep powered on, put them on a separate mesh altogether

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Or buy WiFi ones

mossy valley
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$3/month, quite OK I think.

old kernel
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i mean, the only thing on my zigbee mesh is light bulbs

sour shadow
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$40/year is a rounding error in my energy bill 🤣

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Yeah, but mesh

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WiFi is a point to point thing, turning off one bulb doesn't impact the others

old kernel
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I suppose I could just add a mains powered outlet in a reachable, central location, and then just try it out.

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And for the bulbs nearer the middle of the mesh, put them on constant power and use a scene switch

obsidian sandalBOT
mossy valley
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Oops

golden vessel
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if you are OK with control or states failing for a bit when you turn them off, sure...

mossy valley
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To quick

golden vessel
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but having two zigbee networks would probably be better

obsidian sandalBOT
old kernel
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Well, I don't have anything to put on the "other" zigbee network. I use zwave for everything except these bulbs

golden vessel
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you have some bulbs that are always on, and some that will be toggled, right?

old kernel
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i think I will try that, yes

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since the toggled bulbs are only rarely turned on, most other devices will pick alternate parents

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at least, i think that's the case?

#

i definitely have much more experience with how zwave functions under the hood... the decision to add all these zigbee bulbs came from "oh, i can get RGBW bulbs for 5 bucks a piece?"

lilac wharf
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Zwave functions very similarly to zigbee

old kernel
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zwave devices choose a best path, but they are always aware of alternates, and if a device in their best path goes away, they're generally quick to reroute

austere patio
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Ok, so I was curious and tested this myself with a 1000lm trådfri bulb

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0.58W when off

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1.5W at 1% brightness, 4W at 50%, and 13W at 100%

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So I'm paying ~$15 extra per year to keep 26 Trådfri devices permanently on, assuming these numbers are similar for the outlet switches

lilac wharf
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Same with Zigbee

austere patio
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The 1000lm bulbs have been discontinued so the newer ones may have even better performance

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I assume the ecosmart bulbs radiate 100W even when they're off

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They don't even have LEDs inside, it's just overheating components

lilac wharf
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They're like incandescents: light is the byproduct

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Interesting that they decided to make a smart incandescent bulb. Hopefully it's rated for more than 1000 hours

strange ibex
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Walt, I ended up making a PR to remove the ota line for that device. I think that is all that would take to prevent my error but not sure. 'hopefully that takes care of it for me. I almost bought a sengled bridge but didn't feel like getting that crazy. It might not even have an update. If you ever do 'er, let me know.

cold gorge
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Has someone experience with ZHA device quirks? I'm at the moment working on a custom zigbee device and HA does not show the device as expected

austere patio
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What's the issue?

cold gorge
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My device should be a RGB light bulb, but I can only control the brightness

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And I'm not sure if its ZHA/HA or my device

final pivot
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Something you would need to factor in on your 15$ month is if you use any automations that saves power, not much but could push that down to 10$

cold gorge
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But I do see the cluster group in HA for color control

austere patio
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What's the specific device and what is its signature?

obsidian sandalBOT
cold gorge
#

But you can ignore endpoint 2

obsidian sandalBOT
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austere patio
amber gull
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@molten linden ^^ 👀

austere patio
#

Configurable detection period from 2s to 199s 🥲

strange ibex
#

ohhh baby

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good thing I just bought 4 of those last week in the old gen

austere patio
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With the 5s mod they're just as good

#

I wonder how battery life will be given that they're constrained by specs now

austere patio
amber gull
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His link to AliExpress store looks like the old stuff? this is original aqara motion sensor fromxiaomi

austere patio
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Yeah. The Aqara website does show Zigbee branding on the sensor so it looks like the real deal

cold gorge
austere patio
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It may tell you why ZHA isn't giving your light those capabilities

strange ibex
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I am bblind and can't find the model number on that listing

mellow geode
mellow geode
cold gorge
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I see, I will delete my device again and enable the extra logging

austere patio
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0x0101 is DIMMABLE_LIGHT, 0x0102 is COLOR_DIMMABLE_LIGHT so that looks right

strange ibex
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I just finally found that in comments. I am blind. thanks

amber gull
mellow geode
golden vessel
strange ibex
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walt, I typed to you above but didn't want to ping

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oh, I see thumb

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nvm

lilac wharf
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Nah, it's a joke because the ecosmart bulbs run so hot @golden vessel

austere patio
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Man they now have a double battery one that looks massive

amber gull
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Only a few degrees F hotter then my sengleds actually

lilac wharf
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Although I've seen a smart CFL before I think

austere patio
amber gull
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I guess it was 10 degrees F

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103F at hottest point on Sengled, 113 F (45C) on Ecosmart

strange ibex
#

yay, my PR got merged

mellow geode
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Ceiling mounted and powered by battery seems like a weird choice

lilac wharf
#

What dafuq puddly

amber gull
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Is that a BR30 aqara bulb?

mellow geode
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The motion sensor?

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Sure looks like one haha

austere patio
golden vessel
austere patio
#

High precision motion sensor

lilac wharf
#

Machine learning

#

™️

austere patio
#

It requires the hub because it's just got a camera in there

lilac wharf
#

Lmao

amber gull
#

Confused how you would mount it?

strange ibex
dry fossil
#

Looks like it's intended to be installed in a recess.

mellow geode
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"6 Years Long Battery Life"

amber gull
#

oh god, lmao

#

it just doesn't stop

austere patio
#

The Aqara T-1000

cold gorge
# 
2021-01-13 20:39:02 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.zigbee.application] New device joined: 0x8487, f4:ce:36:13:12:ae:0e:17
2021-01-13 20:39:02 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Device 0x8487 (f4:ce:36:13:12:ae:0e:17) joined the network
2021-01-13 20:39:02 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Device f4:ce:36:13:12:ae:0e:17 changed id (0x0761 => 0x8487)
2021-01-13 20:39:02 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zdo] [0x8487:zdo] ZDO request ZDOCmd.Device_annce: [0x8487, f4:ce:36:13:12:ae:0e:17, 142]
2021-01-13 20:39:02 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.zigbee.application] Sending Zigbee request with tsn 118 under 119 request id, data: b'01760200'
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so that goes well so far

#

It tries to match quirks with existing devices

mellow geode
cold gorge
#

no real issues (but i got a wall full of logs)

strange ibex
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woo, walt. I'm already merged into the dev branch on z2m as well. bless koenkk

amber gull
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that guys lives on github, a true animal

strange ibex
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I started my day off by trying to make an issue and pressed enter. It made a blank issue so I had to race to get the info in there before he saw it and then I made more mistakes, lmao

lilac wharf
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Yeah he's usually pretty quick at merging stuff

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I've """added support""" for several devices (literally copying and pasting code for a similar device) and it's usually merged within 12 hours

cold gorge
mellow geode
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Not bitmap16.16?

cold gorge
#

no

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however, using this 'manage' functions i can get/set the hue and such i believe

#

but if it has to be 16:16 than i have something to search for

mellow geode
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It should send 16 for color temperature (4^2)

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Maybe I'm remembering wrong. Let me check

cold gorge
#

I see

austere patio
#

1 == 0b0001 according to the spec is "Hue/saturation supported"

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16 == 0b1000 is "color temperature supported"

cold gorge
#

I believe I have the option to change it to .16

austere patio
mellow geode
cold gorge
#

I see, I'm recompiling and connecting again

austere patio
mellow geode
#

I guess it's possible to make a custom color cluster (in a ZHA quirk) and use _CONSTANT_ATTRIBUTES = {0x400A: 0x0010} to override color capabilities and make Hass show the color wheel? Edit: 24 / 0x18?

austere patio
#

Might be easier to fix the firmware in this case if he's writing it 😆

cold gorge
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I changed the parameter in my code (for the ones interested; its a nRF52840; I'm planning to create a zigbee nanoleaf clone and later a zigbee plant sensor)

austere patio
#

The little USB dongle?

cold gorge
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I changed the capability to 16; repaired and now HA is showing color temperature🚀

cold gorge
austere patio
#

Ah. 0x08 in that case may be a better fit, since it'd give you RGB control

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Or maybe 0x08 | 0x10

cold gorge
#

I can or the values? (firmware indicates it; values are 1<<0, 1<<1, etc)

austere patio
#

I'm not sure how the Nordic SDK works with that stuff, like if you're manually setting the attribute value or if it sets it based on what capabilities you give the light (or the other way around)

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Yeah, it's a bitmask

pastel trail
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Thanks for recommending zigbee grouping via zha. that should help remedy the issue I was having dimming all the lights at once.

cold gorge
# austere patio I'm not sure how the Nordic SDK works with that stuff, like if you're manually s... 
    m_dev_ctx.color_control_attr.set_color_info.current_hue         = ZB_ZCL_COLOR_CONTROL_HUE_RED;
    m_dev_ctx.color_control_attr.set_color_info.current_saturation  = ZB_ZCL_COLOR_CONTROL_CURRENT_SATURATION_MAX_VALUE;
    /* Set to use hue & saturation */
    m_dev_ctx.color_control_attr.set_color_info.color_mode          = ZB_ZCL_COLOR_CONTROL_COLOR_MODE_TEMPERATURE;
    m_dev_ctx.color_control_attr.set_color_info.color_temperature   = ZB_ZCL_COLOR_CONTROL_COLOR_TEMPERATURE_DEF_VALUE;
    m_dev_ctx.color_control_attr.set_color_info.remaining_time      = ZB_ZCL_COLOR_CONTROL_REMAINING_TIME_MIN_VALUE;
    m_dev_ctx.color_control_attr.set_color_info.color_capabilities  = ZB_ZCL_COLOR_CONTROL_CAPABILITIES_COLOR_TEMP | ZB_ZCL_COLOR_CONTROL_CAPABILITIES_X_Y;
    /* According to ZCL spec 5.2.2.2.1.12 0x00 shall be set when CurrentHue and CurrentSaturation are used. */
    m_dev_ctx.color_control_attr.set_color_info.enhanced_color_mode = 0x00;
    /* According to 5.2.2.2.1.10 execute commands when device is off. */
    m_dev_ctx.color_control_attr.set_color_info.options             = ZB_ZCL_COLOR_CONTROL_OPTIONS_EXECUTE_IF_OFF;
    /* According to ZCL spec 5.2.2.2.2 0xFF shall be set when specific value is unknown. */
    m_dev_ctx.color_control_attr.set_defined_primaries_info.number_primaries = 0xff;
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(please code wall, don't kick me out ;p)

austere patio
#

So it looks like you have to manually do it?

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If it works it works. Then again this is how quirks happen.

cold gorge
austere patio
#

Zigbee stacks are not fun but the Nordic one is looking like the best one so far, at least compared to NXP and TI. Maybe EmberZNet is good too.

cold gorge
#

I'm normally a fan of ST, but their stack is rather new. The silicon labs one would be interresting to try too. The ikea tradfri (at least some) devices use their modu;es

#

Too bad I can't send pictures, but I've got a color wheel🚀

austere patio
#

Yay, no quirks needed!

cold gorge
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Next goal; adding a sensor endoint such that i can read temperature and such

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No quirks needed aaaaaaand most important, I've got hope 😉

#

later I need to add color effects, but thats for later

austere patio
#

I believe in the future you can click "reconfigure device" and ZHA will go through the initialization and discovery process again, so that you don't have to rejoin the device completely

cold gorge
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Oh that would be handy;p

#

I'm now moving between multiple pages and deleting my device all the time

austere patio
#

Not 100% sure if that clears the cached node descriptor and attributes but it might

cold gorge
#

are two endpoints seen as two devices?

mellow geode
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In Home Assistant, it's always one device per physical device. There can be multiple lights (entities) when there are multiple endpoints.

cold gorge
#

That's what I acutally mean

mellow geode
#

Yeah, then it's possible

#

But I'm not sure how you can do it

austere patio
#

LQI comparison between the ZZH and the launchxl-cc1352p-2 with that horrible capacitor resoldered to use an external antenna: https://i.imgur.com/xnDewhl.png

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I think I may have burnt it

#

Not sure if you can absolutely compare the LQIs like this, though

mellow geode
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^

sour shadow
#

There's a review of various sticks in the pinned messages

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That included a bunch of LQI tests

tropic depot
austere patio
#

Ah

molten linden
#

also why I'm not too excited to try and add an ipex jack to the SM-011 modules I have.. 🔎 handgesture

austere patio
#

Do you think soldering on a normal sized ceramic capacitor will work? Or is it designed around that tiny thing?

#

Maybe even bridging it??

molten linden
#

I bought some new smd's that matched but just ended up destroying the pads

#

could try bridging it.

austere patio
#

🧐

nova canopy
#

Im on ZHA an my devices keepes stop respondin after like 24hours, restart of HA and all fine. Any one with similar issues?

mellow geode
#

What coordinator are you using? (For example the Sonoff bridge)

amber gull
#

@nova canopy That seemed to be an issue with the stock Elelabs firmware -- flashing with firmware from the zha-ng github repo fixes it

reef flint
#

I have a bit of a problem with the Tradfri gateway: A few days ago it simply stopped being discovered by Homeassistant. I can still see it on the network though.

#

I have updated homeassistant, restarted homeassistant and power cycled the gateway - no dice.

#

So I wonder if anybody has any ideas on what else to try.

grand kettle
#

Guys is there a way to use a hue bridge as a plain zigbee repeater?

cold gorge
#

The hue bridge is an coordinator and uses a specific code for connecting. I guess that it's not possible without reflashing

grand kettle
proper tangle
#

I keep getting this error in Z2M when trying to load devices in the webUI

Loading devices takes too long time.
Consider reading documentation
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It worked when I had only 2 devices connected but now i have 5 and it's broken

#

The map works perfectly fine

sour shadow
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What coordinator?

proper tangle
sour shadow
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The person who wrote the question immediately before my message...

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(that's you 😉 )

proper tangle
#

haha alright, well, i'm using the sonoff pre-flashed cc2531

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on a Rpi4

sour shadow
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So, the slowest, least powerful, stick 😄

#

If the Pi4 is running on an SD card that may not be helping

proper tangle
#

Both of those are try

#

true*

#

I know next to nothing about how any of this tech works, but I don't see how the cc2531 stick being weak creates time-outs on the webUI when trying to load devices. Is z2m running off the usb stick?

sour shadow
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The stick problem is that it's massively underpowered - it's the training bicycle of the racing motorbike world

#

I assume (haven't checked) that the stick is queried for that view

#

I suspect the log file may have details on the problem though

proper tangle
#

I had 10 devices two days ago and it worked perfectly, but one of my devices weren't connected properly, so i messed around with it and then it started timing out

#

I don't see any other errors than this:

# 
    at Object.getAttribute (/zigbee2mqtt-1.17.0/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/zcl/utils.js:84:19)
    at /zigbee2mqtt-1.17.0/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/controller/model/endpoint.js:87:36
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Endpoint.get configuredReportings [as configuredReportings] (/zigbee2mqtt-1.17.0/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/controller/model/endpoint.js:83:43)
    at /zigbee2mqtt-1.17.0/lib/extension/bridge.js:512:60
    at Array.map (<anonymous>)
    at Bridge.publishDevices (/zigbee2mqtt-1.17.0/lib/extension/bridge.js:484:50)
    at Bridge.onMQTTConnected (/zigbee2mqtt-1.17.0/lib/extension/bridge.js:47:20)
    at async Controller.callExtensionMethod (/zigbee2mqtt-1.17.0/lib/controller.js:381:21)
    at async Controller.start (/zigbee2mqtt-1.17.0/lib/controller.js:167:9))```
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Don't think it's related though

cold gorge
sour shadow
#

Yeah, and it mostly works for small setups - but even there it's known to lock up from time to time, needing a power cycle or reset

alpine cipher
sour shadow
#

Did you check against the hardware list in the pinned messages?

alpine cipher
#

I looked at blakadder list but it is not there

sour shadow
#

Then the answer is maybe

alpine cipher
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i was afraid of that answer

#

but it looks cool right ?

#

never saw a remote like that that was able to change the colour of the light from the remote

sour shadow
alpine cipher
#

thanks !

#

In any case you'll need to configure the whole device so that HA know what it needs to do for each of the buttons. Or am I missing something ?

sour shadow
#

The whole device, and then automations in HA

alpine cipher
#

if we are talking about colours that's a lot of work

sour shadow
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Binding may work, if it's a single bulb/Zigbee group of bulbs

#

I'd expect for automations through it'd largely be a pass through

alpine cipher
#

well i expect that you'll probably need to listen

#

then use the payload for your automations

sour shadow
#

Yeah, but if you connect it to a Zigbee integration the first part is taken care of 😉

alpine cipher
#

i've been playing around with hue and aqara opple

#

but never to the level of the colours

#

the biggest problem I have it is only 4 bulbs and i have 5

proper tangle
proper tangle
#

Why does it say all over the place on z2m supported devices that legacy integration should be disabled? What is it and why is it on true by default?

# 
How to use device type specific configuration

legacy: Set to false to disable the legacy integration (highly recommended!) (default: true)```
little prism
golden vessel
#

smaller and cheaper, but requires soldering

#

I guess a xiaomi leak sensor would be easier (and solder-less), but never opened one

little prism
sour shadow
#

There's a load of those - see the pinned messages for lists of known working hardware 😉

molten linden
#

sonoff and tuya both have zigbee modules like what hue just announced. search Ali for zigbee 3.0 and they will pop up.

golden vessel
#

if you need a relay like the sonoff mini, you have the sonoff zbmini 😛

molten linden
#

ah so it is not a relay.

golden vessel
#

nope. Phillips one is just a contact sensor

molten linden
#

that's an expensive contact sensor 🤣

little prism
#

Ah ok, I misunderstood then ! thanks for clarifying. I also didn't know about zbmini ! very interesting

humble crescent
#

Hey guys im having paring a aqara temperature sensor. It was previously paired to deconz, but i've switched to ZHA now and it will not pair no matter how many times i try the 5secon reset...

#

i've checked the logs trying to figure out what the issue might be, but i dont know anything about zigbee internals but i think i've found a difference between one sensor that managed to pair and the one that didnt

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The one that worked identified itself with \x0clumi.weather\ and the one that doesnt work is just random hex

#

hm might be that it identifies itself with a name after it has been paired

austere patio
#

Hold the reset button until the blue LED long flashes (if it does restart) or blinks three times. Let go for a second, and then continue to poke it once per second until the sensor is joined

humble crescent
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That's what I,'ve been doing, two sensors worked fine.. Two does not

orchid mural
#

I got my new conzbee today, and i'm trying to setup some of my devices, the light sensor fomr xiaomi worked perfectly, and now i'm trying the wireless switch but that don't work does anybody know why? her the log

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ps, it's in the ZHA intergration.

golden vessel
orchid mural
#

ah that could be, as it's and old button.... i

golden vessel
#

I think buttons don't have the instant pairing thing yet

orchid mural
#

just short clicks or longer click

golden vessel
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short

#

1 long click at first (to reset it), and then shorts

orchid mural
#

and now it just completly ignores everything i do...

#

sigh

#

okay for some reason, the button will not connect, could be the distance, so i wanna add my hue bulb, i removed it from the app, but it will not show up in the hass???

amber gull
#

You removed the hue bulb from it's bridge with the Hue app?

orchid mural
#

yup, i also had problem getting the dimmer to reset the bulb but that just seemed to work, now i'm trying to get the bulb to show, it doenst seem like right now...

#

yeah the bulb is just not showing up...

amber gull
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power cycle bulb, add new devices in ZHA config

#

If nothing shows up, post pairing log here

#

Try moving bulb closer if it's a RF issue -- Conbee seems to really like USB extension cables too

mellow geode
#

My experience (for the newer and older Hue bulbs) always was that they'd immediately go into pairing mode once removed from the Hue hub. Power-cycling them should still leave them in pairing mode.
In order to reset a Hue bulb using the dimmer switch, I think the bulb needs to be turned off and then back on again. Then hold ON and OFF (I and O on EU-remotes) near the light for like 15 seconds. It should start blinking.
While doing all of that, add "Add new Device" for the Zigbee integration and make sure the loading indicator is spinning.
If it's an updated ZB3 hue bulb (the ones with Bluetooth + Zigbee), turning it off and back on again 5 times should also make it go back into pairing mode.

orchid mural
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yeah no matter what i try it will not accept any devices, tried different devices, and nothing is showing up right. I also tried rebooting the whole system..... what to do....

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uh hold on now i showed holding my breach.

mellow geode
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Joining is permitted (first line). Everything else is just data from your (already connected) lights/switches/sensors coming in.

orchid mural
#

work it found it.....

#

interresting..... i'll try the switch now..

old kernel
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my osram/sylvania/ledvance bulbs in smartthings had color effects... not many, but like a color cycle mode at least.
In ZHA, there is no effect selection at all, and in zigbee2mqtt I see an effect selection, but nothing happens when picking entries... is there something I'm missing here? Do the device files need to be changed somehow?

mellow geode
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At least on ZHA, I'm seeing the effect dropdown menu (colorloop as the only option) under the color wheel in Home Assistant for (old) OSRAM lights.

old kernel
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hmm. on mine the dropdown wouldn't even load.

#

in zigbee2mqtt the options are blink, breathe, okay, channel_change, finish_effect, and stop_effect... i'm not even sure what most of those would mean as an effect setting

orchid mural
#

siiiiiiiiiiiiigh so yeah the switch will not show up at all.

orchid mural
#

okay so got the button working.....

#

Is there a library somewhere with a list on the different event the differect switches will send?

latent idol
#

Hello, im using zigbee thermostat meos but-002, but sometimes thermostat blocked due to incorrect local temp 6560, can same one have similar issue?

mellow geode
steel summit
#

right, reinstalled the deconz docker and set it up with another ip and such. I'm logged in and can turn on lamps. However, in home assistant, i removed the integration to set it for the new IP but when i try to add it now i just get "Couldn't get an API key"

junior seal
#

Hello there. I recently bought conbee 2. Kinda expected this to be plug n play, but doesn't seem the case. How do I add zigbee capabilities to my homeassistant? Installed on raspberypi in python venv

austere patio
#

Have you added the ZHA integration?

junior seal
#

zha?

#

oh, zigbee home automation. No, it looks like it installs it now. But I did added something? Dunno what then

austere patio
#

ZHA is about as plug-and-play as you can get

#

deCONZ can also use the Conbee, as can Zigbee2MQTT

#

You may have added one of those as well. If that's the case, you have to pick one and remove the others.

trail warren
austere patio
#

TI_CC is dead

#

ZNP replaces it

trail warren
#

😬

#

ok

austere patio
#

Is ZHA unable to probe your device?

#

That's the only time you would be asked to explicitly pick a radio library

trail warren
#

I've got my zigbee stick -> zigbee2mqtt docker -> now I'm trying to setup ZHA

austere patio
#

Can't have both

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Zigbee2MQTT and ZHA require exclusive access to the stick

trail warren
#

ah I see. what do you recommend for getting my zigbee stick to recognize in HA?

austere patio
#

If you want to use ZHA, you don't need to setup any other containers

#

It's built into HA and all you do is add the integration

trail warren
#

I'll try that

#

I thought I read zigbee2mqtt was "better"

dry fossil
#

On the other hand.. if you have z2m already, just use that

austere patio
#

That's what Zigbee2MQTT people always say

dry fossil
#

Everyone has their preferred flavour.

trail warren
#

If I can get it to work in an outside docker I would use it

#

I mean, if it's already setup how do I see my devices in HA?

lilac wharf
dry fossil
#

You just need MQTT autodiscovery enabled. They'll just appear.

austere patio
#

If you already have Z2M try Z2M. ZHA doesn't obliterate your network settings (unlike Z2M) so if you don't like Z2M, your network will be preserved when you switch to ZHA.

trail warren
#

do items get stored in the zigbee stick like they do the zwave stick?

austere patio
#

With ZHA, the network settings are stored on the stick

#

With Z2M they're also stored on the stick but if they don't match what's in your Z2M config, it'll re-form your network

trail warren
#

Received message from unsupported device with Zigbee model 'undefined' and manufacturer name 'undefined'

austere patio
#

Are you trying to join a Xiaomi sensor?

trail warren
#

lol yes - I previously paired it and had it working, but my entire HA setup and containers were nuked

austere patio
#

Hmm. I dunno how Z2M handles devices already on your network but not known to Z2M so I'd ask someone who uses Z2M

dry fossil
#

When I attempt to re-pair Aqara stuff, it goes through the full leaving / joining flow.

#

But if you're getting undefined, just keep trying.

trail warren
#

maybe I'll try to unpair it and re-pair

#

well I just held down the button and now it showed up in devices. big win

#

zigbee just seems so much more responsive than zwave for me

orchid mural
#

siiiiiigh so i got the xiaomi switch in, and i could see it in the zha_event listerne, i made a automation to trigger on it, restarted hass, now i can't see the switch in zha_event, and the automation doen'st trigger.

#

can both and ZHA and deconz talk with the stick, to test if it's the intergration or sometinge else...

austere patio
#

One at a time

#

Does the device appear in your device list?

orchid mural
#

me or rick?

#

yes i do see the battery sensor....

amber gull
lilac wharf
#

Dafuq

orchid mural
#

and as far as i can see it's in the vizualtion....

austere patio
#

So it joined properly and ZHA didn't delete it

#

Is this a relay or a button?

orchid mural
#

yes. i can see it has this weired red refresh symboll in the status row.

#

it's a button.

#

the hue bulb and light sensor seems to be working.

austere patio
#

Though I think ZHA will update the "last seen" on the device page as well if you refresh

orchid mural
#

if i click the button the last seen get's updated.... i'll add the debug level

austere patio
#

So it's on your network. Does subscribing to all zha_events show it?

orchid mural
#

nope

simple sentinel
#

So I'm at a point where the only reason my Hue bridge is still hooked up is to be able to use Hue Essentials to run disco lighting routines in the living room.
Is there any suite of tools to do something like this in Zigbee2MQTT?
Long route or easy way?

orchid mural
lilac wharf
#

@simple sentinel nope

austere patio
orchid mural
#

yeah just saw, then i don't think it show in the log....

simple sentinel
austere patio
#

If "last seen" updates then the device is on the network and sending stuff so you 100% would be getting stuff in the log

amber gull
lilac wharf
#

Ha, I stand corrected

orchid mural
lilac wharf
#

I was wrong about something

amber gull
#

I'm not sure what part of the disco routines come from what component

simple sentinel
amber gull
#

I've ditched disco for sea shanties personally 😂

lilac wharf
#

I can never show my face avatar here again

austere patio
#

Seems like it didn't join properly the first time

orchid mural
#

yes that is the one.

austere patio
#

This may be one of the devices without fast Xiaomi joining support so you have to make sure it goes through the whole process

orchid mural
#

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH I'll try again......

austere patio
#

Just make sure to keep poking something to keep it awake every second

orchid mural
#

i think i did, got it in and the zha was green said it was done...

#

how can i then see if it's in propperly?

austere patio
#

The green thing should indicate that it is but I'd look at the joining log to be sure

orchid mural
#

okay i'll try again and post the log...

austere patio
#

Can you post/send me your entire HA startup log? That will contain all of the stored info about the switch

simple sentinel
orchid mural
mighty river
#

Hi guys, hope someone can point me in the right direction (or right place to ask the question). I updated my RPI 4 with HA supervised and ever since this error occurs a lot and my zigbee devices stop working after a while...

Error doing job: Exception in callback SerialTransport._read_ready()
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/asyncio/events.py", line 81, in _run
self._context.run(self._callback, *self._args)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/serial_asyncio/init.py", line 119, in _read_ready
self._protocol.data_received(data)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zigpy_zigate/uart.py", line 60, in data_received
cmd, length, checksum, f_data, lqi = struct.unpack('!HHB%dsB' % (len(frame) - 6), frame)
struct.error: bad char in struct format

austere patio
#

That doesn't look good

#

len(frame) is probably less than 6 and this is a bug with zigpy-zigate

mighty river
#

Working on it...

austere patio
mighty river
#

Thank you. And for my understanding. This error also occurs:

Error doing job: Exception in callback SerialTransport._read_ready()
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/asyncio/events.py", line 81, in _run
self._context.run(self._callback, *self._args)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/serial_asyncio/init.py", line 119, in _read_ready
self._protocol.data_received(data)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/dsmr_parser/clients/protocol.py", line 91, in data_received
data = data.decode('ascii')
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x80 in position 1: ordinal not in range(128)

austere patio
#

That's with another package

mighty river
#

But that looks related to dsmr (which i disabled)

austere patio
#

Yeah, dsmr_parser isn't used by zigpy or ZHA

drifting thistle
#

Anyone know where i can find a zigbee wall outlet that either allows you to address either outlet independently or only has one hooked up for remote control?

junior seal
#

okay I give up. Is there some magic trick to add that zha integration?

old kernel
#

for me, it worked just fine. until last night, when it didn't

junior seal
#

it rotates that loading circle for X minutes then fails

obsidian sandalBOT
#

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

  • Check the troubleshooting steps
  • Check your log file - remembering you may need to set logger to info or debug
  • Explain what the problem you're having is - sharing configuration, errors, and logs
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austere patio
#

Adding the integration or adding a device?

steel summit
#

@faint elm did you solve the iussue with deconz?

wintry horizon
#

ive got stuff to run a z2m raspberry pi setup and some ikea bulbs ready to go for tomorrow when i move. anyone have any switch solutions for fan fixtures etc. and would putting zigbee bulbs in the fan fixture not be the way to go?

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not sure if this is more of a devices or zigbee question since i am kind of going to zigbee for now

sour shadow
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For devices, have a look at the pinned messages for a hardware list

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Personally I recommend not turning off the power to Zigbee bulbs

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Others who do that discover that it breaks their mesh, and devices stop working because the mesh is broken 😄

junior seal
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@austere patio adding integration

austere patio
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Do you have deCONZ and other stuff that can possibly be trying to use the stick disabled?

junior seal
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no

austere patio
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No, as in you have deCONZ running as well?

junior seal
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no, I don't have deconz, at least I haven't installed/activated it, whatever that is

austere patio
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If pip install is broken you probably have more going on with your HA core setup

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Look at home-assistant.log, it'll contain everything. The logs within the web UI don't.

junior seal
austere patio
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Something with your Python installation is broken

junior seal
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great

austere patio
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Yeah, pip install RPi.GPIO doesn't work

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homeassistant.requirements.RequirementsNotFound: Requirements for zha not found: ['zigpy-zigate==0.7.3'].

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If you install that specific Python package into the virtual environment yourself it should work fine after that

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ZHA requires all of its radio libraries to be present before it can start up because it autodetects the correct one for a given serial device

wintry horizon
sour shadow
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If you cut the power, they're bricks

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If you turn off the light using Zigbee, then they're still powered on and working as routers

wintry horizon
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will i be able to make the switches in there turn off the lights the way needed?

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as well as still have color etc.?

sour shadow
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Depends entirely on whether the unit has two power switches, one for the fan and one for the lights

wintry horizon
sour shadow
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It looks like it'll control three devices, controlling the power to them

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If your fan has two power inputs, one for the lights, and one for the fan, then that'll turn the power on and off to those - assuming the fan doesn't burn it out

wintry horizon
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would it be able to for example put a scene on in the room?

sour shadow
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No idea, that looks to be a switch (well, dimmer type switch given there's no neutral)

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If you want scenes then you need something that's a remote, not a switch

wintry horizon
sour shadow
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Possibly

wintry horizon
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thanks. im still pretty confused on what will and wont work together the way im going to want but im sure ill learn more as i go here

junior seal
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how long does it take to install the zigbee integration? I fooled it to use gcc-8 and installed zigbe-zigate manually, then tried again from web ui. It's been installing for some time now, over 5 minutes, home-assistant.log doesn't show any new errors though (don't know when they are appended, in real-time or when the command finishes)

dry fossil
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the zigbee integration
There are 3. Which one?

wintry horizon
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i see a lot of these things say "lighting" so

dry fossil
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does "action" mean that it would control things the way im looking then?
We're not mind readers, so you'll have to tell us what you're hoping it'll do.

wintry horizon
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sorry by that i mean would this be a smart way of having smart bulbs in fan fixtures and allowing them to still have color etc. and able to do a scene on a button press while still powering lights to keep the mesh going etc.?

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while also solving people turning off the switches

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well looking at it i dont think it will. im not seeing any wiring on the back of this.

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im not completely sure though

junior seal
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@dry fossil I only see one - zigbe home automation? in integrations

obsidian sandalBOT
dry fossil
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There are 3 ways to set up Zigbee.

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Either way, you shouldn't be screwing with installing things yourself.

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Why are you running random commands?

junior seal
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random commands?

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like, going to the web UI, config, integrations and adding integration there?

dry fossil
dry fossil
junior seal
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yes, cause it otherwise failed

dry fossil
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And... you haven't said how it failed. Provide error messages and logs.

obsidian sandalBOT
junior seal
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I did

dry fossil
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ZHA is built in. You don't need to run any commands behind the scenes to get it going.

junior seal
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apparently not

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it looks like it installs missing modules via pip in background

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and it failed, log said failed to install zigbee-zigate, the exact message is in links I posted ~30 messages earlier, around 21:25

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someone hinted that it can be due to gcc10, and it seems to be correct, cause it worked with gcc-8

dry fossil
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Well to answer your earlier question, the logs are in real time. If it's not logging anything, it's not doing anything.

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You could bump the logging level up but catastrophic stuff will be logged already anyway.