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limpid chasm
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Do you still have your device list filled with all the old devices which do not work?

nimble ferry
limpid chasm
nimble ferry
limpid chasm
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yep, i made peace with having to re-pair everything and fixing my automations afterwards

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you could try with just one device and see if it works

nimble ferry
limpid chasm
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Yeah, i created many snapshots during my process

spare light
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Are there any Lux only sensors?

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Iv tried finding some and no bueno, don’t need battery wasted on anything else

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Strongly considering seeing if I can DIY 😭

limpid chasm
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Yeah should be pretty simple to create, cheap too.

quick hare
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I found that just after, just installed it and the scan shows everything except the attributes, they are empty. It's weird as a scan of my other devices show plenty of attributes.

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It does but I want to handle the tamper sensor. Also, I taught that the standard should be IAS no?

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Mhh I get plenty of Status.UNSUP_GENERAL_COMMAND status for discover_attribute seem's Signify is playing a game?

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Actually Philips devices don't seem to accept this command, I'm really scratching my head as to how others here discovered attributes for example, of the motion sensor.

limpid chasm
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So i can't put all individual ZHA groups in individual areas. How can i work around this issue while maintaining the ZHA groups and light control? i tried with a helper but i have no light controls except on/off

austere patio
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It looks like the coordinator was shipped to you with an existing network and ZHA took a backup of it. In ZHA, go to Configure and then pick "Migrate Radio" again. In the configuration page, click "Re-configure current radio" and then get to the part that asks you to restore an automatic backup. You should have two backups listed there. Pick the earlier one.

austere patio
limpid chasm
forest cobalt
quick hare
# austere patio If you join it to a hub and sniff the traffic, you can see the attribute reports...

Same thing with the lights. Seem's everything Philips, does not want to report where IKEA and Sinopé do. Your idea of a bug is not crazy.. I'd be curious to hear from someone who did some attribute discovery with Philips. You say that if I sniff my network I should see attribute reporting? Even in ZHA, the manufacturer specific cluster is empty. The on_off repoting seem's broken as well, it always reports NONE. Not sure how ZHA knows the sensor is opened/closed.

limpid chasm
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Gosh, this is the last question for today - this was quite easy in z2m but i can't seem to find it with ZHA. Setting the Occupancy timeout on a motion sensor, i tried browsing through the clusers and their attributes but it's not really self explanatory.
Is there a place where these things are documented?

nimble ferry
tropic depot
tropic depot
digital ledge
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I have a zigbee bulb connected to a regular light switch. Every third time I turn it on, even if it has been hours between toggling it, it goes into Pairing mode (or something, it flashes). Is there any way to prevent that? Or is it just a sucky bulb?

tropic depot
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what integration are you using?

digital ledge
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Just ZHA

tropic depot
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so the light may be leaving and rejoining the network. Can you reproduce this at will?

digital ledge
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Maybe. Right now I turn it on/off very infrequently (usually once per day) so it's been happening every three days. I can go turn it on twice now, then go back and try again in a while.

tropic depot
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there is an option that disables the identify effect when devices join the network in the ZHA config panel

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disable that and see if it stops

digital ledge
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Okay, I'll toggle that.

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Thanks.

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I think the real solution is replacing the switch with a zigbee switch. If you have any AliExpress recommendations for ones that work with ZHA, I'd be grateful 🙂

limpid chasm
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But id like to know the same for the sml001 and sml003 (Philips Motion sensors)

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Also for some reason my sml001 has a motion and occupancy sensor, occupancy doesnt seem to do anything but motion is detected which will remain detected for 5 minutes

mellow geode
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The important bits are Alarm_1, Alarm_2, and Tamper.

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If either Alarm_1 or Alarm_2 is activated, ZHA activates the binary sensor in HA.

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If the tamper sensor is indeed using the standard temper bit, we could create another binary sensor in ZHA for the tamper bit and only create the entity for the Hue sensor. Since it's a standard ZCL attribute and because there'll likely be more sensors with the tamper bit, we should do it in ZHA (not quirks).

quick hare
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Ok i'll check

quick hare
# mellow geode There is a tamper bit on the `zone_status` attribute. It's ignored at the moment...

So i've rejoined the device with all the logging and found this : Error handling '_save_attribute' event with (00:17:88:01:0d:ce:f9:51, 2, <ClusterType.Server: 0>, 0, 4, 'Signify Netherlands B.V.', datetime.datetime(2024, 8, 18, 22, 52, 55, 616124, tzinfo=datetime.timezone.utc)) params: FOREIGN KEY constraint failed it also found and bound succesfully the on_off cluster but there is no mention of zone_status Here's the attribute reply for the manufacturer cluster : [homeassistant.components.zha.websocket_api] Requested attributes for: cluster_id: 64518, cluster_type: 'in', endpoint_id: 2, response: []

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What's weird is that the response for the basic cluster was replied fine : Requested attributes for: cluster_id: 0, cluster_type: 'in', endpoint_id: 2, response: [{'id': 19, 'name': 'alarm_mask'}, {'id': 1, 'name': 'app_version'},...

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I did try to poke with attribute_read from 0x500 to see if it had IAS Zone but I got an error from ZHA Toolkit.

tiny timber
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Just reporting back on this. Thanks for the suggestion. Did the migration on the weekend (moved back to Skyconnect on ZHA at the same time) and it was the smoothest joining I've ever had. Even the Aqara contact sensors only required one attempt. Better LQI/RSSI across the board now.

quick hare
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Oh.. is it possible it does not report attributes if it does not get it's manufacturer ID?

shadow valley
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i just upgraded zigbee2mqtt. afterwards there's a few lights that i'm not able to control over mqtt. i can control them over the z2m dashboard, but not over mqtt. what could be wrong?

sour shadow
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Check the Z2M log

limpid light
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Anyone here use a zigbee bulb that's not hue and you're happy with it? And it has a normal light bulb shape? Normally I'd use hue but they physically don't fit in the sconce but a regular bulb will

forest cobalt
limpid light
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I just tried some tp link bulbs with matter and it no Bueno

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Bulbs wouldn't stay connected for more than a day

shadow valley
# sour shadow Check the Z2M log

nothing relevant there, as far as i can tell. i can control the light through z2m, so i believe the zigbee part is ok. and i'm not able to do anything from h-a side, as the controls are greyed out, so i'm not able to generate anything from that side

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ah, could it be this: 2024-08-19 12:48:21.476 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.mqtt.mixins] Error 'some but not all values in the same group of inclusion 'color_mode' @ data[<color_mode>]' when processing MQTT discovery message topic: 'homeassistant/light/0x00178801067f70db/light/config', message: '{'availability': [{'topic': 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state'}], 'brightness': True, 'brightness_scale': 254, 'command_topic': 'zigbee2mqtt/0x00178801067f70db/set', 'device': {'identifiers': ['zigbee2mqtt_0x00178801067f70db'], 'manufacturer': 'Philips', 'model': 'Hue white ambiance Still (3261330P6)', 'name': '0x00178801067f70db', 'sw_version': '1.104.2', 'via_device': 'zigbee2mqtt_bridge_0x00124b0024c2905f'}, 'effect': True, 'effect_list': ['blink', 'breathe', 'okay', 'channel_change', 'candle', 'finish_effect', 'stop_effect', 'stop_hue_effect'], 'max_mireds': 454, 'min_mireds': 153, 'name': None, 'object_id': '0x00178801067f70db', 'origin': {'name': 'Zigbee2MQTT', 'sw_version': '1.39.1', 'support_url': 'https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io'}, 'schema': 'json', 'state_topic': 'zigbee2mqtt/0x00178801067f70db', 'supported_color_modes': ['color_temp'], 'unique_id': '0x00178801067f70db_light_zigbee2mqtt', 'platform': 'mqtt'}'

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that's from h-a

sour shadow
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Tradfri's white bulbs are fine

graceful elm
forest cobalt
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Yup. In Z2M, there's a setting in Exposes. In ZHA, it's probably a cluster action. I cannot stand Sengleds. The decision to make them end devices just baffled me to no end.

limpid chasm
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good day folks, i wonder if you can change the reporting interval with ZHA for devices?

shadow valley
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tried setting the heating setpoint of one of my heaters: "2024-08-19 13:29:34z2m: Publish 'set' 'occupied_heating_setpoint' to '0x3fff000400000567' failed: 'Error: ZCL command 0x3fff000400000567/1 hvacThermostat.write({"occupiedHeatingSetpoint":1600}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (SRSP - AF - dataRequest after 6000ms)'"

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this happened after i upgraded the firmware of the ovens

limpid chasm
forest cobalt
limpid chasm
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hope that explains my motivation to want to adjust it :)

tropic depot
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It will report if the temp changes

graceful elm
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With ZHA, if an attribute is configured for reporting will the coordinator always request an update even if an attribute report has been sent within the configured time period?

tropic depot
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ZCL 2.5.7.1 - 2.5.7.3 and also, the coord is not involved at that point.

broken moss
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What is the most recommended zigbee relay?
I ordered some tuya whd02 from aliexpress and while they work great, im kinda of afraid to put them to everyday use in main locations such as kitchen, dont know what to expect of daily use. Sonoff i read it as a little delay between switch input and light turning on

grim igloo
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neither of those

broken moss
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My experience with tuya whd02 is that maybe i could get good hardware but sellers are not reliable, ordered in 3 separate ocassions and always came different hardware, even though from the same seller

broken moss
obtuse hearth
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What is the full name of m8?

grim igloo
sour shadow
broken moss
obtuse hearth
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I cant buy it on aliexpress

sour shadow
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You can for SMLight

obtuse hearth
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nope

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page not found

sour shadow
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Then you've got a choice of random CC2652 or EFR MGM2x sticks

grim igloo
obtuse hearth
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Them aren't delivering in Russia

broken moss
obtuse hearth
sour shadow
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You can't get any CC2652 based stick?

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Nothing EFR MGM21 or MGM24?

obtuse hearth
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More likely not

grim igloo
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i cant imagine they dont have a sonoff p dongle or something

sour shadow
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In the past I've seen those shipped on Ali from Russian warehouses...

obtuse hearth
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I found that

ornate vault
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i'm looking to move my zigbee coordinator to a more central location. will the mesh self correct itself, or do i need to reinterview all of my devices?

sour shadow
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Depends on the devices

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Zigbee 1.2 stuff may not, Aqara's stuff of that generation certainly won't - but if every end device is connected to a router then it should all be fine

ornate vault
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router meaning coordinator?

dusky flint
nimble ferry
ornate vault
sour shadow
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Check the second pin for terms

ornate vault
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i see, ty

sand hearth
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I have a couple of questions but the first is that my zigbee devices keep going offline and I am using zigbee2mqtt. If I tell Z2M to permit join, most thing come back online but some I have to physically touch. The wifi router is upstairs in the office and so is the HA and Conbee2. Most of the devices are downstairs. How would I go about troubleshooting this and keeping devices online? Is it possible to put a Pi4 with the Conbee2 downstairs and leave the HA box (intel dedicated hardware) upstairs? Would that even help?

sour shadow
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Yes you could, and maybe it'll help... but only if a router there would have helped

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I'd ensure that the ConBee is on a USB cable, away from the computers and wifi router

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Then check your Zigbee and Wifi channels - see the pinned image

sand hearth
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I have 2 aqara switches installed in the wall which are connected to power and these should be acting as routers. with 2-5 feet of these devices are most of my devices which go offline. Frustrating so maybe moving the coordinator closer to the downstairs mesh won't solve it.

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One of those switches regularly goes offline as well

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this is what it looks like right now

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strangely enough the "sage" (my thermostat) is online but the "outside back door" is offline as is the "back porch switch" (one of the plugs)

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🤷‍♂️

sour shadow
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Two may not be enough

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You also didn't answer the other points

high sierra
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hello everyone, I am looking for a zigbee ethernet hub, what can you recommend?

sour shadow
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Check the top pin

sand hearth
high sierra
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I have a raspberrypi 3b+ and I wanted to know if there were zigbee modules that I could put on the gpio

sour shadow
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There are some, but ... don't

high sierra
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thank

sour shadow
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The main one is the RaspBee, and it's not great

sand hearth
# sour shadow You also didn't answer the other points
  • so my wifi is channel 1 and zigbee is channel 24 (was 20).
  • actually, I just checked and I have a sonoff with antenna and it is on a usb (forgot that I replaced the conbee as it was much worse) cable as far away from the computer and wifi as possible.
sand hearth
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is it worth looking at the HA Connect ZBT-1? Not sure replacing the sonoff is a solution but have seen other folks say that one works well.

rapid dawnBOT
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@sand hearth When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
sour shadow
sand hearth
sour shadow
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@sand hearth

rapid dawnBOT
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@sand hearth When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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☝️

austere patio
sand hearth
grim igloo
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you're doing it all wrong sir

sour shadow
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The recommendation is 15, 20, 25 (and 26)

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Look at the image

sand hearth
# sour shadow Look at the image

Under "Channel Planning" it talks about dropping wifi channel 11 and the picture shows wifi channels 1 and 6 and then zigbee on channel 24. So, that is what I tried. I can certainly change it to 25 an see if it helps.

sour shadow
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24 isn't one

grim igloo
sand hearth
sand hearth
grim igloo
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ah okay - basically you want 1/6/11 for wifi not the channels inbetween because the channel width commonly used (HT20) takes up 2 channels to the left and two channels to the right of w/e you pick

sand hearth
grim igloo
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so you do an energy scan using your zigbee dongle or coordinator you have and it tells you the interference then you react accordingly

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so i use zigbee channel 25 and my wifi 2.4ghz channel 11 access point for wifi is the furthest away from my zigbee coordinator compared to my other wifi access points which are on 1 and 6

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yours is even simpler cuz just one AP

sand hearth
austere patio
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What Zigbee stick do you have?

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Do you have any other than the Sonoff -P?

sand hearth
sand hearth
# austere patio Do you have any other than the Sonoff -P?

no changes to home network or wifi. only change to the zigbee mesh recently was to remove my Nest thermostat and replace it with a Centralite 3157100 on zigbee (which was recommended in HA forums as reliable and solid). About this same time, I have had stability issues which I just realized though I cannot understand why that would be.

austere patio
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Do you have any others? The reason I ask is because you can perform environment scans with other coordinators that you cannot do with the Sonoff -P stick or the Conbee.

sand hearth
blissful idol
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I keep getting tons of errors popping up in Zigbee2MQTT. These lights are in groups and are configured for the Adaptive Lighting integration.

error 2024-08-19 13:15:53z2m: Publish 'set' 'brightness' to 'BasementWallLightC' failed: 'Error: ZCL command 0xb0c7defffe945b18/1 genLevelCtrl.moveToLevelWithOnOff({"level":254,"transtime":0}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (217))'
info 2024-08-19 13:15:53z2m:mqtt: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload '{"message":"Publish 'set' 'brightness' to 'BasementWallLightC' failed: 'Error: ZCL command 0xb0c7defffe945b18/1 genLevelCtrl.moveToLevelWithOnOff({"level":254,"transtime":0}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (217))'","meta":{"friendly_name":"BasementWallLightC"},"type":"zigbee_publish_error"}'

grim igloo
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what are cc2652p2 coordinators missing that others arent for an energy scan?

sand hearth
grim igloo
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i use tube's addons they are very easy

austere patio
grim igloo
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so it therefore provides a less accurate interference percentage?

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p7 and p2 effected?

austere patio
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It's not provided by Z-Stack at all. There's a different scan type I'm working on and for now it requires an EZSP coordinator.

leaden spear
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good evening. I have a few NAMRON zigbee devices. HA says my devices run fw ver 0x0000001, and that it is the latest version. Vendor offers firmware downloads for the devices in question, name (for example) 4512708-Firmware-35.ota. Is there any way to figure out what firmware version the file on disk is? And yes, I have a legitimate reason for wanting to update. Communication between dimmer and HA is a bit iffy, and it does not appear to be about the RF signal.

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Also: how does HA match files in config/zigpy_ota/ with individual devices?

austere patio
austere patio
leaden spear
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Heh. thank you.

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If I cannot query the existing firmware version from the device, how do we know that the file on disk isn't more recent?

austere patio
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Why can't you query it?

leaden spear
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I get 'None'

austere patio
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How are you reading it?

leaden spear
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querying downloaded_file_version and current_file_version

austere patio
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Not all devices support those attributes. You can usually get the device's firmware version if you send a image notification request with QueryJitter=100 and look at the debug log with what the device responds with

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But at that point, this is what ZHA uses for OTA. If you enable the advanced file provider and include the warning text in your config and no OTA image shows up, the device is up-to-date or the firmware doesn't apply to your device

leaden spear
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ok. thought I had downloaded all the relevant firmwares. I had not.

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And there is none for my particular model.

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so much for mustering the energy to finally tackle this.

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thank you, @austere patio . much appreciated.

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My Sky Connect 1.0 runs Firmware: 7.1.1.0 build 273. Should I spend any energy flashing that?

austere patio
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You can upgrade it from the website

leaden spear
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I assume that requires me to plug the adapter into the local machine?

austere patio
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Yes, it's usually simpler and faster than using the addon

leaden spear
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noted

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how sad and agitated will HA be if I just disconnect the adapter while HA is running?

austere patio
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Not a problem at all, your entities will just become unavailable until you plug it back in

leaden spear
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That was entirely too easy.

grim igloo
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that's his secret plan all along

leaden spear
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It better be. I am a semi-old fart doing networking for a living. I find it very, very hard to love zigbee.....

grim igloo
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it seems to come down to hardware choices with accompanying firmware that isnt trying to burn your house down that really makes a difference - really more like just better hardware that abides by standards and does things in a way the devs can easily implement features for

austere patio
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It sounds like you're describing Z-Wave 😄

grim igloo
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both really

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buy crap zigbee or zwave light switches or anything else for that matter, have a bad time

grim igloo
austere patio
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Tuya is on the Zigbee Alliance (well, CSA)

leaden spear
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of course. I gave zwave a try some years back. Remains in the same plastic bag somewhere in the attick till this day.

grim igloo
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both protocols work fine if you use them right

broken moss
ornate vault
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one other question on the hue lights. is my understanding correct that you can plug them into any normal light socket and they'll be able to connect to your zigbee coordinator?

grim igloo
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but you dont want to kill their power

ornate vault
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yeah, that was my next question. so you just keep them always switched on?

grim igloo
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the mesh expects constant power for devices like bulbs to use them as routers for your mesh

ornate vault
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is it a common thing to just bypass the switch and wire them directly/always on?

grim igloo
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no it's common to buy a smart switch

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or tape them or buy a remote that sits on top of them

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lots of workarounds

ornate vault
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yeah, i was going to go with remote route

grim igloo
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wiring always on is jank

ornate vault
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my issue is my home isn't wired with neutral

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so not many options for smart switches

grim igloo
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inovelli blue switches do no neutral at $50 each

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if you are usa

ornate vault
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or my switches aren't rather. i'm not 100% on if there's a neutral run to the box in the attic yet

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been dealing with renovations the past year and just getting to the point where i can get everything set up again

grim igloo
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a smartn't home for a year? i couldnt

ornate vault
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nah, it's been smart

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just not room lights. i run a ton of lamps that handle that

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we mostly turn on recessed lights when we host events/parties

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hasn't been too big of an inconvenience, but i'm here now and want to get it all set up

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just starting my search on these, but how well do they work in like a 4 gang box?

grim igloo
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you put 4 of them

ornate vault
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can they fit standard 4gangs?

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wasn't sure if the internals were wider or not

grim igloo
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they are thicc like all other smart switches

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but not wide just d33p

ornate vault
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i don't think that'll be an issue

grim igloo
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even my 1980s texas build can work it's just tight

ornate vault
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i run some volume controls in wall and they're pretty deep

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will have to take measurements, but i think there should be enough space

ornate vault
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do you happen to have a picture of them in a multi gang box?

grim igloo
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i have one in a box im waiting to get a few more and install all at once lol

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there's lots of reviews on youtube

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the black style with leviton black covers look really nice (all my switches are white im just saying they look nice)

ornate vault
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and they're technically always on right? i think i remember reading all no neutrals are that way

grim igloo
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sounds right

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it's in their docs

ornate vault
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not guessing the rocker is automated to where if you have it flipped "off" and you turn it on within homeassistant it toggles the switch?

grim igloo
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you can either automate the switch and the bulb, or bind them via zigbee binding directly to each other to work together without home assistant and then use automations for other things

ornate vault
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gotcha, i meant more of the physical state of the switch. if i walk up to it and manually turn it off with the physical switch, then go to homeassistant and turn it back on. the physical switch stays in the off position i'm guessing?

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so do you just have to physically switch it on and then off again to turn it off at the switch?

grim igloo
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no that's crazy

ornate vault
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?

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ahh, it's a rocker toggle. for some reason i was thinking it would stay depressed

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that makes sense

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nice, appreciate the info. i think this is what i was looking for

grim igloo
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good luck have fun

coarse forge
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In Zigbee2MQTT is there any way to lower the frequency of "info" logging for specific devices?

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I have a microwave human presence sensor which creates multiple info log entries per second...

mellow geode
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Is it a Tuya senosr?

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Some of them spam the Zigbee network a lot

shadow valley
coarse forge
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I have aqara door / window sensors and they don't do this. I can't speak for Tuya

coarse forge
sour shadow
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mmWave sensors are known for being chatty

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Tuya sensors are known for being very chatty

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Tuya mmWave is the worst of both combined

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I have one of their air quality sensors and it reports more than every other sensor combined

limpid chasm
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Is there a way to move an existing end device on the network to another router in the home without having to remove the device and initiate pairing again?

sour shadow
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Don't remove it, just pair it again via the router

knotty niche
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hi folks, im looking to setup a new EFR32MG21 ZB-GW04 adapter with HA

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do i need to flash it with ember driver, to work with HA?

shadow valley
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but if they are battery-powered, how can they afford to be so chatty? it must surely wear out the battery?

knotty niche
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"Can use ZHA in Home Assistant or Zigbee2MQTT"

sour shadow
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You'd want to update, 6.7 is pretty ancient

knotty niche
sour shadow
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That's on you

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Do you want it all in one, or do you like separation?

knotty niche
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..can separate in phase two

sour shadow
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ZHA then

knotty niche
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python3 Elelabs_EzspFwUtility.py probe -p /dev/ttyUSB0
2024/08/21 00:01:52 Elelabs_EzspFwUtility: Generic Zigbee EZSP adapter detected:
2024/08/21 00:01:52 Elelabs_EzspFwUtility: Firmware: 6.10.3-41
2024/08/21 00:01:52 Elelabs_EzspFwUtility: EZSP v8

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ok, looks like its at a reasonable FW version?

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'At the time of writting (2022-08-08) EmberZNet Zigbee version 6.10.3.0 firmware is recommended for the ZHA integration in Home Assistant (which depends on the open source zigpy and bellows libraries):'

sour shadow
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7.4 is current

knotty niche
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ok, all fixed

mellow geode
knotty niche
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is there any way to pull/graph LQI and RSSI values for a zigbee device, in HA?

tropic depot
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enable the sensor and look at the graph after a while?

neat anvil
#

@forest cobalt I hope you don't mind me pinging you. I just wanted to thank you for the help and advice. The new Zigbee controller arrived, I rebuilt my HA from scratch (just to wipe out some of the bugs and unused crap on it) and its back to working 100%. Thank you so much. Oh yea. and of course, wifes home.

unreal flicker
#

ah, found it

halcyon thistle
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please excuse me if this has been asked before, but I have recently noticed that some ZigBee devices are lagging once in a while after installing some recent builds of HA...

after browsing the release notes for skyconnect firmware upgrades, it looks like some of the fixes might have a positive impact on this situation... some local investigating seems that my skyconnect is on firmware 7.1.1.0 which is quite old...

it seems there is some conflicting information with how to go about flashing one of these... is HA supposed to be able to do it natively through zha? or is there another bit I need? there also appears to be a website for that does it, but it looks like you have to backup and restore your ZigBee network after flash if my understanding is correct... any guidance on how to do this would be much appreciated!

EDIT: also why is there no skyconnect chan? lol

austere patio
#

You can upgrade by using the web flasher, no need for a backup, it won't affect the network settings on your stick (and ZHA would restore them if they're wiped anyways)

halcyon thistle
#

interesting, I only have 4 groups... I could discontinue using them... I haven't actually changed anything with them for a very long time... just updated HA as new bits came out...

my automations are relatively straight forward too

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so shutdown ha, plug stick into another machine, flash, reconnect to ha hardware, power on?

austere patio
#

No need to shut anything down, you can just unplug it (unless your setup can't handle USB hotplug)

halcyon thistle
#

interesting, I thought I read somewhere that was a no no

#

it's just an RPI, hot plug is no issue

#

can you tell me more about groups? are they generally not a good thing? I'm a software dev not a hardware dev lol

#

I noticed if I spam a group HA gets mad, but normal options seem fine, generally

austere patio
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Zigbee groups (not normal HA groups) are basically a network-wide broadcast for every command, since they're delivered by having each device on your network re-broadcast it a bunch of times. If you send more than a few at once, you flood the network with too much traffic and the firmware waits for things to settle down.

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You can send 30 individual commands to 30 bulbs and they'll all turn on no problem (what a Home Assistant group does), there will be just a slight delay between each one. If you use a Zigbee group you can have them all turn on at the same time, with the above limitation.

halcyon thistle
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yikes, thats one way of ensuring the message gets where it belongs lol

austere patio
#

Basically: if you get NETWORK_BUSY errors, a firmware upgrade will probably fix it (but you should also probably reduce your group traffic). If not, the firmware upgrade shouldn't fix anything but it won't hurt.

halcyon thistle
halcyon thistle
halcyon thistle
austere patio
#

You can use the Silicon Labs Flasher addon as well, it'll do the same thing (just make sure to disable ZHA first and re-enable it after). The SkyConnect doesn't currently support firmware updates the same way other devices do in HA, unfortunately. Eventually 😄

halcyon thistle
#

I saw mention of that, but it didn't seem to be in the addon list

austere patio
halcyon thistle
#

ah, yep...

#

in any event, this conversion was very very helpful... thank you for this...

I'm at the gym researching this between sets, and there is so much conflicting information about this specific topic, it's ridiculous

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last question, is there any reason to use one over the other?

austere patio
halcyon thistle
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I'll read through them when I get back from the gym, thank you again!

austere patio
# halcyon thistle last question, is there any reason to use one over the other?

They're functionally identical (both run the same program ). If you can't access your HA server and want to do it remotely, use the addon. If you want to install some other firmware locally and have a Chrome-ish browser, it's often faster to just plug your stick into a nearby computer. Eventually it'll just be a normal update that shows up with all the others.

halcyon thistle
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ah, I see... yeah that's the part that baffled me, I kind of assumed this thing was updating on its own... till I discovered it wasnt lol

halcyon thistle
forest cobalt
vocal tree
#

What's the current topology advice for 100+ device zigbee networks. I'm moving from an EFR32 dongle and bare metal HA install to an SLZB-06 with a new HA VM. Currently have almost everything connected to the coordinator. Should I consider using routers in every room and then pairing the routers with the coordinator? If I plan to add another 50 quite chatty devices (power meters) should I set up multiple networks (I have a spare SLZB-06M)?

sour shadow
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  1. Routers are good
  2. Power meters should use WiFi
vocal tree
sour shadow
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Better than 20 Zigbee ones flooding your mesh and breaking it

vocal tree
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Fair. Are there any good DIN rail mountable options for monitoring lots of circuits?

sour shadow
devout egret
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I have contant door sensor. I wanted to install it on ground floor, while HS server is on 1st floor. (1 floor difference, not 2). It doesn't have enough strong signal... Is it normal for Zigbee?

#

Will zwave do better job?

#

thread?

#

is it really close to each other. I guess not more, than 10m, but on another floor.

sour shadow
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Just add a router or two

#

Z-Wave and Thread will have the same challenge, and the same solution

grim igloo
sour shadow
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Point to point range between devices is usually about 6 to 8 meters with one solid wall, or maybe two drywall/plasterboard walls, in the way

#

LoRa would also do it, but that's serious overkill

devout egret
sour shadow
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Welcome to the real world

devout egret
#

ah you mean dongle?

grim igloo
#

No I mean zwave long range isn’t legal in eu yet

devout egret
rapid dawnBOT
#

@devout egret When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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100 m ... in open air, and zero RF inteference

devout egret
sour shadow
#

All protocols talk about range in absolute perfect conditions

#

Hell, in perfect conditions Bluetooth can do hundreds of meters

#

WiFi can do far more... but nobody ever sees any of that in reality without special kit

devout egret
#

what about thread vs zwave?

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in real house condition

#

As I remember zwave use lower Hz so should do it better

sour shadow
#

Z-Wave will do, maybe, slightly better, but maybe not

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I found that in reality range of the two was much the same

vocal tree
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Thread has the advantage of multiple border routers, for example I have 11 bridging my wifi/wired network and thread mesh. Whereas in the end everything in zigbee needs to make its way back to the one coordinator

devout egret
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For instance, in Europe it operates at the 868-869 MHz band while in North America the band varies from 908-916 MHz when Z-Wave is operating as a mesh network and 912-920 MHz when Z-Wave is operating with a star topology in Z-Wave LR mode.

As far as I understand z-wave is in EU, but with different MHz?

sour shadow
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Z-Wave LR != Z-Wave

devout egret
sour shadow
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Z-Wave Long Range is new and special

devout egret
#

again didn't know 🙂

sour shadow
vocal tree
sour shadow
devout egret
devout egret
vocal tree
devout egret
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I regert I don't have everything on ethernet.... 🙂

sour shadow
#

And yes, some use WiFi

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For example the Google Home Hubs

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Your generic WiFi router doesn't know about Thread

vocal tree
#

The difference with zigbee is that you have one crucial device in the mesh, the coordinator. Which is the only path back to your network. In thread you can have multiple paths

devout egret
#

What about zwave? 1 main router?

sour shadow
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Same as Zigbee, yes

vocal tree
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That means you alway need to think about the path back to that coordinator from your furthest devices. But Thread you only need to think about the closest Thread Border Router

sour shadow
#

If you want multiple separate meshes then #thread-archived is the way to go, though it's all still very much bleeding edge and your experience could be great, could be terrible, could be both depending on the time of day

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Long term Thread/Matter will be the best solution, but it's some way from being as mature as Zigbee or Z-Wave

devout egret
vocal tree
#

Just on zigbee routers, what's best practice for max number of lightbulbs for example connect via one router? I'm looking at one designated router per room, but I have one room with a chandelier with 29 hue bulbs for example...

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would they all connect via one IKEA Tretakt smart plug? Would I designate one bulb in the chandelier as router?

sour shadow
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As many as the router can handle

austere patio
vocal tree
#

even when I pair via a specific device in Z2M?

sour shadow
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Devices are hard coded to be routers or end devices, nothing you can do will change that

vocal tree
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But there is no influencing path selection? If a bulb can see the coordinator directly it will prefer that path?

sour shadow
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No

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You can pair a device to a router, but the device decides if it connects another way

vocal tree
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When migrating to a new controller, any value to pairing the devices I want paths to go through first? The new coorddinator is going to be more centrally located in the house and have a better antenna. Should I minimise the number of devices in the mesh or spread out unused smart plugs to increase the number of routers/paths?

forest cobalt
vocal tree
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And pair everything in the locations they will live?

sour shadow
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Yes, always

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If everything is Zigbee 3.0 that may not matter as those devices are usually better at reconnecting... but not always, and why create more work

desert burrow
#

hey guys looking for resources and information on how to switch from conbee dongle to sonoff dongle and at the same time move over to MQT

sour shadow
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Do you mean move from ZHA to Zigbee2MQTT?

desert burrow
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i bought a new dongle so i want to switch from conbee to sonoff, and at the same time go from deconz to zigbee2mqtt

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i have no problem reinstalling all lamps, sensors etc

sour shadow
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Then the switch is turn off deCONZ, unplug the ConBee, start fresh with Z2M

#

There's no migration

desert burrow
#

ahh just remove and add

sour shadow
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You'll want to pair all the routers first

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Then pair the end devices to a nearby router

carmine hamlet
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you can just factory reset each device and let it join the new dongle

desert burrow
#

yeah and routers is philipps hue lamps for example right

sour shadow
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Yup

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Almost all mains powered devices

desert burrow
#

and battery driven things are usually end points

carmine hamlet
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always

desert burrow
#

cool yeah that sounds easy 🙂 something is going to break, it always do

#

thats why we do things with tech 🙂

sour shadow
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Don't let Z2M default on channel 11

carmine hamlet
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since you're ready to re-pair all your devices and switch to Z2M, nothing can go too terribly wrong

desert burrow
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yeah i mean i have 4 rooms they have ish 2-3 lamps each, a couple of vacum cleaners, some sensors and a door lock

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so its not like the biggest HA home through history 🙂

#

Thanks for all support guys 👊🏼

carmine hamlet
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one day:

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austere patio
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It looks like your network is about to undergo mitosis 😄

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Maybe it's time to stop buying devices

carmine hamlet
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there are even more at the outer rim of the galaxy

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it took a long time to generate that

grim igloo
forest cobalt
carmine hamlet
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120-something

forest cobalt
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Eh, ok. I don’t feel so bad at 111 then.

surreal temple
#

Hi Everybody I have been trying to troubleshoot why my zigbee2mqtt is not adding new devices to mqtt.
What i noticed is that somehow I still see addons in the use trhough the webgui even when I change it, after a restart it states addons again. In the configure.yaml the correct user and password is configured (within quotes) if I look in the MQTT addon log I see this:
New client connected from 172.30.33.11:40036 as mqttjs_afb1d75c (p5, c1, k60, u'addons').
And the new devices do not appear in the MQTT integration.
In the zigbee2mqtt webgui the devices are present and I can trigger and read them there. I am lost, been going atthis issue for so long but cant find the rootcause. The only thing I did not reinstall is MQTT addon itself beacuse I need it for other stuff.

sour shadow
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The devices show in the Z2M UI?

surreal temple
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yep

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and I can use them there. Turn on and off see power usage

sour shadow
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What does your Z2M config look like?

rapid dawnBOT
#

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

surreal temple
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Do you mean the config.yaml?

sour shadow
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For Z2M, yes, not HA

surreal temple
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Yeah understood, can I past it here or do I have to go though patie etc?

sour shadow
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Don't post walls of code 😉

surreal temple
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Never used pastie hope I am doing this right:

sour shadow
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Looks ok

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Does Z2M publish to the broker?

surreal temple
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yeah it looks like it, but I am wondering if I am looking correctly

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What really puzzles me is that the gui shows this:

sour shadow
#

MQTT Explorer is your friend

surreal temple
desert burrow
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got this error message when adding serial in configuration zigbee2mqtt. have no idea how to fix it.

Failed to save add-on configuration, Invalid dict for option 'serial' in Zigbee2MQTT (45df7312_zigbee2mqtt). Got {'data_path': '/config/zigbee2mqtt', 'socat': {'enabled': False, 'master': 'pty,raw,echo=0,link=/tmp/ttyZ2M,mode=777', 'slave': 'tcp-listen:8485,keepalive,nodelay,reuseaddr,keepidle=1,keepintvl=1,keepcnt=5', 'options': '-d -d', 'log': False}, 'mqtt': {}, 'serial': '/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_249faec7fee6ed1185cfcf770b2af5ab-if00-port0'}

if anyone have advice i would really appreciate it.

rapid dawnBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

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sour shadow
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We need to see your config 😉

surreal temple
sour shadow
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Are you seeing messages from Z2M?

surreal temple
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Whe I us ethe mqtt integration in configure and hit start listening I see this:

Message 5 received on zigbee2mqtt/bridge/config at 22:09:
{"commit":"unknown","coordinator":{"meta":{"maintrel":0,"majorrel":38,"minorrel":102,"product":0,"revision":"0x26660700","transportrev":0},"type":"ConBee2/RaspBee2"},"log_level":"warn","network":{"channel":11,"extendedPanID":"0xdddddddddddddddd","panID":6754},"permit_join":true,"version":"1.35.1"}

desert burrow
sour shadow
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Nothing there about serial

surreal temple
surreal temple
desert burrow
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no sorry i was asking for help at the same time. im going to shut up until you solved your thing

rapid dawnBOT
#

@surreal temple When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
surreal temple
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Owh dont worry, It might take a while, it is really strange what is going on with my setup. It worked fine for years and a couple of weeks back I noticed it wasent working. But I aint sure since when

surreal temple
sour shadow
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@surreal temple

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The defaults are ok

surreal temple
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well that seems OK then, but I noticed that indeed nothing is comming into the topic queu, it stays at 6 topic 6 messages

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Does anybody know why the gui shows addons as user even when I change it? The config shows the correct user in my case mqtt-user

sour shadow
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If you're seeing nothing else published on the broker, nothing under homeassistant/ from Z2M, then Z2M isn't properly connected to the broker

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Maybe it's not connected at all

surreal temple
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I see zigbee2mqtt then state = online info, devices, groups etc. But this is pretty much static info

sour shadow
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When you stop Z2M does that change?

surreal temple
#

nope

#

It seems it is not connecting, but I cant find out why.

sour shadow
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I'd bet on auth

surreal temple
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yeah, but I am using the same user for teslamate and some tasmotta devices and also mqtt-explorer and it is wrking fine

sour shadow
surreal temple
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The strange this is that it has worked before

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I am trying now without user and password

sour shadow
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The whole MQTT section should be left empty

surreal temple
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Hmm, This is so weird. The log of the addon says this:
info: z2m:mqtt: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Tuya plug 1 TrueNas', payload '{"child_lock":"UNLOCK","countdown":0,"current":0.11,"energy":5.07,"indicator_mode":"off/on","linkquality":0,"power":0,"power_outage_memory":"off","state":"ON","update":{"installed_version":-1,"latest_version":-1,"state":null},"update_available":null,"voltage":232}'

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But when I look under zigbee2mqtt topic I cant see the Tuya plug1 truenas or the others

sour shadow
#

You're subscribed to #?

surreal temple
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in MQTT Explorer I can just select the root of the MQTT server and see all topics. And MQTT-fx shows pretty much the same but less user friendly

surreal temple
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I give up for today. Thnx for the help!

shadow valley
#

i have a couple of outdoor lights, one make is namron and the other is a philips hue, that seemingly makes my z2mqtt completely unresponsive

#

i have to restart the z2mqtt

#

i can't even access the web gui

#

and all zigbee devices are unavailable in h-a

desert burrow
sour shadow
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Looks like you made a lot of changes to the config and didn't restart Z2M

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[2024-08-22 08:41:05] error:     zh:adapter:zstack:manager: Please update configuration to prevent further issues.
[2024-08-22 08:41:05] error:     zh:adapter:zstack:manager: If you wish to re-commission your network, please remove coordinator backup at /config/zigbee2mqtt/coordinator_backup.json.
[2024-08-22 08:41:05] error:     zh:adapter:zstack:manager: Re-commissioning your network will require re-pairing of all devices!
regal heron
#

Hello,
Where can I find the latest SkyConnect firmware?
I'm running the 7.4.2 but I don't know if it's the latest or not.

sour shadow
regal heron
#

Thank you @sour shadow so the latest version is 7.4.3

smoky epoch
#

Hi all....new to zigbee so appreciate any help here. I have a bunch of zigbee canlight retrofits installed (osram/ledvance). I am using ZHA. They work fine enough, but one annoying thing is that if I turn them off, and then turn them back on, they alwyas go to max brightness. When I am turning them off, I am not cutting power, but using their virtual turnoff for lack of a better term. This is also true for groups i've created with them. Is there a way to fix this? Also, groups I have made with them have different range of temperature. Is there a way to manually set the range on a group?

sour shadow
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You can set a target brightness

rapid dawnBOT
sour shadow
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Check the docs for light.turn_on

smoky epoch
sour shadow
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Apparently not with those lights

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Osram are known to be a bit shit, so I'm not that surprised

smoky epoch
austere patio
regal heron
austere patio
#

You can manually upload the GBL file if you want the absolute latest. We don't update the web flasher and addons immediately.

graceful elm
#

On the V2 quirks, do we have any documentation on those yet?

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Or I could also ask, do the four in the repo conform to design standards going forward?

austere patio
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Yes. The existing v2 quirks aren't very complete in terms of features exposed, there is a lot more they can do to create entities

graceful elm
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Ok, have a device supposed to come in this week that will need one, didn't feel like doing it twice, thanks

coarse epoch
#

hi there. I have a new tuya zigbee switch that is recognized by ZHA but it's not working properly afterward. I guess it requires a new version of the quirk. I would like to try and directly mine and contribute it. Any hints on how to write a quirk?

hasty cobalt
#

Does someone know if there is an already existing way to control zigbee rgb lights integrated to home assistant using artnet protocol or something like that ?

desert burrow
sour shadow
#

Well, if you deleted the backup then that's expected... as the log tells you

desert burrow
#

does it auto create a new log then after ?

sour shadow
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If you'd updated the config to match the backup nothing would have been lost

desert burrow
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i did not delete the log i acctually rewrote the log to add up to the error text

#

ohh damn i did the oposit i changed the backup

#

but now i did 3 test restarts of HA and 2 test restarts of zigbee2MQTT and it seems to stick so now i re-add al devices its so few so it would go fast

sour shadow
#

So... now none of your devices know how to connect

#

Because they were joined with the data that was in the backup before you changed it

desert burrow
#

yeah kind of stupid of me, but i feel its simpler adding devices then trying to change back the other way around

sour shadow
#

Well... deleting the backup would have had the same impact as what you did

desert burrow
#

how come since it autogenerates a new one ?

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but then it would not have hade the new settings i had set right ?

sour shadow
#

Your devices were paired to the config in the backup

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When you modified the backup that had the same effect as deleting it - the devices didn't know how to talk to the coordinator

carmine apex
#

Anyone have any experience with the SMLIGHT SLZB-06 Zigbee POE adapter? It's top rated on Amazon, is it my best choice for HA cluster so I don't need hardware on the HA server? Will I be able to share it between two HA servers (proxmox cluster, when it fails over to other machine). What is the preferred chipset, i see 3 different ones

sour shadow
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Lots of people do, hit up search

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You want the EFR one

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Either MGM21 or MGM24 depending on your personal preferences - SMLight even provide recommendations based on their own tests

carmine apex
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seems amazon has mostly the mg21 version

sour shadow
#

That'll be fine

desert burrow
#

can you update OTA for several lamps at the same time or sequentially if you want to do it over night in zigbee2mqtt ?

sour shadow
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One at a time is better for the mesh

coarse epoch
#

that device connect and then became not available, until I reset it to factory .. any ideas on what to do?

shadow orchid
#

My aqara door and window sensor is showing closed even though it’s open, showing 100% battery (I highly doubt it) and showing that it’s 99 degrees..

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Ive already removed and readded in z2m

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No change

tiny timber
wild mortar
shadow orchid
#

And I already know it’s broken so

wild mortar
#

General recommendation.

jovial aspen
#

I happened to see a discussion in here the other day about Zigbee Coordinators, and someone recommended the slzb-06p7.

#

I bought myself one and I absolutely love it.

gritty perch
#

I purchased a Sonoff Zigbee stick.
I'm running HAOS through Virtualbox on a headless Ubuntu server
Using VBoxManage I can get the zigbee to show up in HA, but once I attempt to configure it, HA becomes completely unresponsive and I'm forced to reboot the Ubuntu server

Has anyone seen this before? Or know of a way to get better logs to figure out what is happening before HA becomes unresponsive?

distant flume
thick igloo
#

what rgb zigbee lights do y'all prefer? normally I'd want to grab the tradfri, but they don't seem to have the rgb ones anymore in north america

mellow geode
#

I really like Philips Hue lights 😄

thick igloo
#

they are so tempting since they seem so nice

#

they just cost so much

wild mortar
jovial aspen
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the green shed doesn't even sell them, you've got to buy them online

proud shale
#

so i am going a bit nuts here. i have a couple govee floor lamps which I want to control with a zigbee button. the problem is that the lamps seem to have poor wifi signal getting to them, which means that the button does not always work as expected (may trigger just one of the lamps). do you all have any recommendation for zigbee or zwave (NOT WIFI) floor lamps?

going to amazon and searching for "zigbee floor lamp" just yields the same govee stuff I already have except there's no mention of zigbee.

spare mural
#

"Floor lamp" doesn't really narrow things down

proud shale
proud shale
hoary marten
#

any idea what parametrer i should change via zha toolkit to disable indicator light from motiondimmer? previously i have disabled the light from schneider app from another motiondimmer but i would not like to repair it ti app and back to zha to figure it out https://pastebin.com/APQ4vMM6

sour shadow
#

What's the make and model of that device?

hoary marten
#

´´ "manufacturer": "Schneider Electric",
"model": "NHMOTION/DIMMER/1",
"class": "zigpy.device.Device" ``

spark warren
#

trying to add a sonoff zigbee dongle to HA should it appear in integrations

sour shadow
#

How did you install HA? HAOS? Docker? Something else?

spark warren
#

docker

sour shadow
#

How - Portainer? Compose? docker run? Something else?

spark warren
#

docker-compose

sour shadow
#

And you made the container privileged?

#

Or did you map the device manually?

spark warren
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i dont think i did i followed a guide

sour shadow
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What guide?

spark warren
sour shadow
#

Because if it's not the official docs it probably led you astray

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        image: lscr.io/linuxserver/homeassistant
``` fuck me
#

Try the sane docs instead

spark warren
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hahah ty

#

if i update my YML and rerun docker compose up -d would it update those settings

sour shadow
#

Yes

ashen bluff
#

Any modification to the compose file should cause a recreation of the container upon running up.

spark warren
#

how do i edit the volumes section of the YML

sour shadow
#

With your chosen text editor?

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nano if you like simple

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vim (or better nvim) if you like power 😛

spark warren
#

sure i dont really understand the syntax for local time and dbus

sour shadow
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Those don't need changed

# 
      - /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config
``` is all you need to change
spark warren
#

ah excellent thanks again

sour shadow
#

If you run the host on UTC then something like:

      - /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London:/etc/localtime:ro
``` for the timezone
lucid quest
#

Hi guys, can anyone help me with a question? I have a Sonoff Zigbee Bridge Pro, flashed with Tasmota acting as my zigbee hub using ZHA. The fact is that when i search, everything says that it only supports 10 end-devices without any router device. Does this limitation exists when using the custom firmware? Is it a radio thing that cannot pair more than the 10 devices? Or is it overcomable?

forest cobalt
lucid quest
#

oh, ok, thanks!!

hoary marten
#

yea try adding mains powered devices first they are usually router devices

#

if u have any

sour shadow
#

The Sonoff bridges are also generally pretty underwhelming devices

spark warren
#

does that include the dongles

sour shadow
#

The Sonoff E is ok

#

I'd not touch anything else from them that's Zigbee related

#

And honestly, if you haven't bought the dongle, buy something from SMLight or Tube instead

spark warren
#

cheers information overload atm

sour shadow
#

That eventually ... eh, who am I kidding, it never really goes away

frank tulip
#

Hi, I bought a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus - ZBDongle-E

Home Assistant shows a new Sonoff Dongle Device to setup, however i'm not able to set it up because it fails saying "failed to probe usb"
Are there any known issues? I'm running HA on a VM using Proxmox and flashed the newest 7.4.3 coordinator fw manually using SecureCRT via Xmodem.

The USB Device/Vendor ID is 10c4:ea60 - shouldn't it be 1A86:55D4 for the E version?
As the PCB itself says ZBDongle-E and not P

The Device Bootloader version is: Sonoff v1.0.1 (Gecko Bootloader v1.12.00)

austere patio
frank tulip
#

I connected the stick to my windows computer, pressed the reset button while holding the boot button, connected via SecureCRT Serial Port, pressed 1 to upload a file, sent the file via Xmodem:

Sonoff v1.0.1

Gecko Bootloader v1.12.00
1. upload gbl
2. run
3. ebl info
BL > 
begin upload
CCCCCCCCCC
Starting xmodem transfer.  Press Ctrl+C to cancel.
Transferring ncp-uart-hw-v7.4.3.0-zbdonglee-115200.gbl...
  100%     233 KB       2 KB/sec    00:01:24       0 Errors  

{~
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because the Web flashing (https://darkxst.github.io/silabs-firmware-builder/) didn't work at all. It couldn't detect the running firmware.
I tried bootloader mode and without bootloader mode.

Result:

Connection failed
The running firmware could not be detected.

Make sure the USB port works and if you are using a USB extension cable, make sure the cable can transfer data. Unplug the Sonoff ZBDongle-E and plug it back in to reset and try again.
thick igloo
austere patio
coarse epoch
#

i think my problem yesterday wasmore related to the whole zigbee mesh than to de device itself. two question, do i need to rebuild the network to add repaters, or is it enough to add them and wait patiently until they get new routes through the repeaters? (i have 41 zigbee devices)

#

is there any way to "force" the mesh to rebuild?

fringe juniper
#

Hello all 😃 ,
I'm the noob trying to start playing with Zigbee and HA 😄
I recently installed a SkyConnect USB stick on my Synology NAS and connected it to a VM running Home Assistant. It was working fine, but after a reboot (trying to migrate from ZHA to M2Q), the USB stick is no longer recognized by the NAS or by any computer. I've tried reconnecting it, but without success. Could you please help me troubleshoot this issue?
As it is no longer recognized I cannot try to flash it :/ and as it is not recognized in my NAS, it is not the USB VM passthrough the issue 😄

quartz cipher
#

How do i further find out whats causing this?

Logger: zigpy.application
Source: runner.py:190
First occurred: August 22, 2024 at 7:38:17 PM (58 occurrences)
Last logged: 12:28:07 PM

Unknown device AddrModeAddress(addr_mode=<AddrMode.NWK: 2>, address=0x0F32)

austere patio
quartz cipher
#

So I did just remove an Aqara motion sensor the other night from HA, and put a thirdreality one in its place to try it out. Gave it all the same name and stuff in HA so automations and such stuck. THat all looks to be working fine. So you think it would be the aqara one thats sitting on my desk now? Cause its battery is still in. But i did a long 5s hold on it to reset it\put it in pairing mode. So how would it still be trying to talk to the coord?

austere patio
#

It probably didn't reset, some of them don't reset if they can still communicate with their parent router

quartz cipher
#

Interesting, thanks for explaining that. IS there a way to track down that address to a physical device? Assuming its like a MAC?

austere patio
#

You can try to pull out its battery for 30s and then put it back in, the device may announce itself on the network. Otherwise, all it's sending is 0x0F32, not its full IEEE address.

proud shale
thick igloo
carmine hamlet
#

Crying RGB tears

thick igloo
#

though the cope is that this will just be a cry once kind of thing

#

and no more dealing with weirdness of my govees randomly disconnecting, not responding for 30s, or adjusting to a color different from the other govees until i tell it to change again

proud shale
#

Another option I've been looking at is to invest in dimmers and use regular led bulbs

thick igloo
#

if you just want regular bulbs then the ikea tradfri sound pretty good

#

the ikea RGB ones are good too, but at least everywhere near me are completely out of stock and aren't shipping

keen merlin
#

Recommendations best remote battery powered zigbee switch with on/off and brightness control . I want to use it to control lights with Z-Wave wired switch via HA routine

#

Or should I just stick with a Z-Wave remote with direct control?

proud shale
coarse epoch
#

any idea on why a ikea floatl panel, might turn on randomly for a couple seconds?

thick igloo
#

ah wait, 1100 is equiv to 75 watt

rigid wagon
#

is there a way to change brightness in home assistant, without telling a light to turn off or on?

forest cobalt
#

You could use the light defaults csv file to force a default brightness, but that still relies on the turn_on action.

leaden spear
#

I have three mains-connected zigbee devices which HA claims doesn't give feedback to commands. 'device did not respond'. The devices do act on commands. Vendor claims device is compatible with Homey and Futurehome. No OTA firmware update is available. Is there anything I can do to improve 2-way communication between these devices and HA?

#

Is it plausible that the zigbee controller doesn't hear the response from these devices, despite that they managed to peer?

upbeat goblet
#

When i click Skip Update for a firmware update on a zigbee device.... why does it keep coming back up?

hollow mortar
#

Hello, should I get slzb-06 or m version?

limpid chasm
hollow mortar
#

Right, but which is more stable and works better with most routers? Because I’ve read comments towards both sides.
I have an asus ax86u and 88u.

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And I’m kind of confused

limpid chasm
#

What is confusing you?

hollow mortar
#

Which will work well with my router

#

TI vs silicon labs

limpid chasm
#

Honestly i can't speak from experience but i don't think you'll have an issue with either of them.

#

Personally i would pick the EFR32MG21 one as it's newer

#

Are you going to power it over PoE?

hollow mortar
#

Do you have recommendations for starting with Poe?

limpid chasm
#

I see that the TI one works best with Z2M and the SL one with ZHA

hollow mortar
#

I found old posts about this and it was before they added it to their recommended list, before that the chip was listed experimental

limpid chasm
hollow mortar
#

You recommend going Poe though, all over the house if I can

limpid chasm
hollow mortar
#

Oh

limpid chasm
#

Though Z2M has support for it as well but i read something about issues with the 8.0 firmware.

hollow mortar
#

And z2m is better from what I’ve seen, correct?

#

More supported devices

limpid chasm
#

That really depends, i've used both and neither are perfect.

hollow mortar
#

Oh, so should I even go sigbee? I can just stay WiFi

limpid chasm
#

Unless you are using really new or really niche devices you wont have issues with supported devices.

hollow mortar
#

I would probably need zogbee for devices that I cannot get power to, but other than that shouldn’t I go WiFi with devices that I can get power to?

limpid chasm
#

WiFi isn't perfect either, it's just that everything has their quirks

hollow mortar
#

I hate batteries

limpid chasm
#

If you bind yourself to just one protocol you are also narrowing the products you can buy, the power of Home Assistant is to use them all which gives you a wide array of products that fit your needs.

hollow mortar
#

Of course

#

But I’m sometimes wondering if a device I’m buying should be bought WiFi or zigbee

#

And I can’t decide 😂

#

Light switch for example

limpid chasm
#

haha, perhaps that question is better suited for #hardware-archived. personally i use both zigbee and wifi. Zigbee for my lights, motion sensors, temp/humidity sensors, etc. My light switches have shellies behind them so those are on wifi but that turned out to be a pain when my wifi went down, though that is an edge situation.

#

Since then i have implemented a workaround for the shellies if that were to happen again.

hollow mortar
#

But if your WiFi goes down how can you control them if the zigbee is also connected to that router anyways?

hollow mortar
limpid chasm
#

If you go the smlight route it would be cabled, which is not affected by wifi unless your solution (in this case a router) is a combined appliance.
My router is wired only and my wifi is powered by separate access points.

proud shale
limpid chasm
# hollow mortar Which is?

A script that checks for home assistant availability, if it's not available the shelly will switch back to relay mode - making generic on/off mode available again.

hollow mortar
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Ahh, my router is combined router and modem

limpid chasm
#

Yeah, i've developed an allergy for modem/router/wifi combo's, i went full unifi.

hollow mortar
#

Sounds like a good idea

#

I want to go unifi but it’s expensive

#

You have presence sensors?

limpid chasm
#

Yeah it is, though in home situations you usually don't need an entire rack.

#

I just have 2 AP's, PoE switch and a router ^^

limpid chasm
hollow mortar
#

Which poe switch do you recommend

hollow mortar
limpid chasm
hollow mortar
#

Is that what you have set up?

limpid chasm
# hollow mortar Which one

I have an Aqara P1, Multiple Philips Hue ones, an ESP based mmWave one and i do some presence tracking with Bermuda Trilateration utilising BLE.

#

PIR for passing through, mmWave for static presence (do your research on this, there are varying types which aren't all good at static presence)

hollow mortar
#

Do you recommend mmWave?

#

Everything I’m asking is based on your usage of course

limpid chasm
#

Yes, it's great but does usually require some finetuning.

hollow mortar
#

And this runs on WiFi?

limpid chasm
#

Yes

#

It's better on WiFI, it would spam the zigbee network otherwise. (way too much data)

hollow mortar
#

Something like this would be good you think?

#

Or you don’t buy Chinese stuff

#

This would be almost like an esp and an mmWave module, no?

limpid chasm
#

Could you give me a non 'share' link but just a regular one? :p

#

good night 😁

hollow mortar
slender vector
graceful elm
austere patio
graceful elm
#

Yeah, looks basically the same, I mean, maybe it was just me, but getting the esp-idf dev environment right was a pain and most of their Zigbee samples won't compile, but other than compiling with Arduino I don't see it doing much to making things more accessible.

slender vector
#

Not sure personally, it just came up in my news feed.

split sage
#

For some reason all my Motion sensors are now shown as 'occupancy' instead of 'motion', has something in HA changed recently?

#

I'm using Z2M, it applies to all new and old devices

forest cobalt
split sage
graceful elm
#

Anyone have experience with the cheap esp32c6 super minis from aliexpress, are these an acceptable router or should I configure them as end devices?

rapid dawnBOT
#

@stable dew I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
stable dew
#

how can I check if the stick itself is working?

stable dew
#

nevermind figured it out. Zigbee2mqtt can't read usb device if gpsd service is running... Oh well, I guess I will need to keep these two on separate devices

quick hare
#

Hey there! I'm looking to build a ZHA quirk for the Philips Contact sensor and the attributes are in a manufacturer specific cluster. I was wondering, is it better to implement the clusters as a on_off cluster or a IAS one? IAS has tamper which would be convenient to implement this feature as well. Here's my issue : https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/3314

austere patio
full anchor
#

i'm trying to switch from zha to z2mqtt and am having trouble

#

got the mosqiutto broker

#

enabled the mqtt integration

#

now i'm trying to start the z2mqtt add-on

#

[2024-08-24 21:45:28] error: z2m: Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT

quick hare
mellow geode
#

The custom cluster needs to be implemented in the same way as before. The v2 quirk replaces the cluster and adds the entities then.

#

The doc is slightly outdated, it's a QuirkBuilder(manuf, model) now and something like add_to_registry() or build() has to be called at the end.

quick hare
#

ok ok so if I need to translate the data I need to stick to v1 is that right?

mellow geode
#

No, a v2 quirk just changes the CustomDevice class with the signature and so on to be those few lines of codes.

#

A CustomCluster, where you can override update_attribute, for example, is still the same. It's just applied to the device via the quirk v2 .replaces(customCluster) method instead of listing it in the replacement (signature).

#

Basically, you'd want a custom Philips cluster to define the attributes first.

#

If the attributes need to be parsed further for the ZHA entities, then it's not really possible with quirks v2 yet (unless you want "fake" attributes). A simple on/off attribute can easily be mapped to a switch or binary sensor though.

fading stratus
#

What is the best/easy way to update a zigbee sonoff dongle e? Theres a new firmware today

austere patio
graceful elm
#

Do the tuya devices generally report the battery percentage over a 100% when new?

#

Working on a quirk, see that they normally multiply the reported battery by 2, yet that gives me 125%, which is high, but half that seems low...

austere patio
#

Battery percentage in Zigbee is measured in increments of 0.5% so the ZCL attribute reports 200 to mean 100%. Lots of devices do this wrong and map it 1:1.

#

What kind of battery does the device take?

graceful elm
#

2x AAA

austere patio
#

Are you using alkaline batteries? Or rechargeables?

graceful elm
#

Alkaline

#

I can try another 2, just to make sure it doesn't change, just thought it was odd

#

Pulled the other one I bought out and added batteries and it gives me 95%, so starting to wonder if somone put some partially used batteries back in the box...

grim igloo
opal juniper
#

i cannot get something to work in MQTT, am I able to try using ZHA at the same time?

grim igloo
#

no

opal juniper
#

ah ok

grim igloo
#

zigbee2mqtt takes control of the full usb dongle or whatever you use

#

same with ZHA

opal juniper
#

ok, ill try and solve the issue a diff way, thank you

grim igloo
#

but it's not really a good option to jump back and forth so best to yep^^

#

if you post your issue here someone might be able to help tho

fading stratus
opal juniper
#

yea, might as well. I'm very new to all this, so this is my first thing that im trying to add to HA where Im not fully sure what im doing.

I bought water leak sensors that are zigbee. I have them connected to MQTT and they are showing up but the sensor is saying "unknown". I did not set these up anywhere else, like an app etc. Not sure if i need to do that part, but i figured the whole idea of HA is to not use hubs and apps for each thing

grim igloo
opal juniper
#

oh ya, thats right. i mispoke

#

yea, i used mqtt with mosquito

grim igloo
#

so it sounds like you just have your usb dongle and then joined some battery powered sensors?

opal juniper
#

yes

grim igloo
#

they are probably too far away and you need some repeaters to act as a "mesh" to relay messages back to your usb dongle

opal juniper
#

ah ok

#

let me move them to the HA and test there

grim igloo
#

so basically the easy answer is throw money at it. you can do some diagnostics of course

#

but basically you should have a zigbee mesh if you want reliable connections

#

also if you are using a usb dongle and no usb extender then that might be a big problem

opal juniper
#

usb extender as in just to get the dongle away from the HA?

#

the dongle plugged into a usb 4 port switch thats plugged into a HA green

grim igloo
opal juniper
#

ok thank you very much, let me go back and redo paying attention to that and the distance

grim igloo
#

i have 40+ light bulbs for my mesh but i think my mailbox like 40meters away from me hops 2-3 lights to get back to my coordinator nothing crazy

opal juniper
#

so its just a matter of if im going to use zigbee, start with the zigbee devices that are closest to my HA and extend outwards?

#

in a way?

grim igloo
#

like say i moved, i would take most of my smart devices with me and pair them starting closest to the coordinator and move outwards. then at the end i would join my battery devices

#

that would provide me with the best routes for all of my devices

opal juniper
#

ok thanks again, since this is a new setup for me ill just go that route

tiny timber
#

Any way to apply a sensor offset in ZHA? Wanting to fake room temp by using device temps.

spark warren
#

anyone have any recommendations for for ZHA extender my sonoff dongle e not reaching far enough

#

any opinions

ashen bluff
#

Yeah. Buy a real device like a power plug instead.

spark warren
#

are these repeaters real enough haha

ashen bluff
#

Most mains powered devices act as routers. I don't see the point of these "repeaters".

spark warren
#

really ? im very unfamiliar with how zigbee works what kind of devices

gaunt widget
# spark warren really ? im very unfamiliar with how zigbee works what kind of devices

Zigbee nodes can be either endpoints (like a pushbutton, or some of the sonoff minis), or repeaters. Endpoints just accept or generate a signal, nothing more. They're normally battery powered or otherwise constrained devices that don't have the power budget to be repeaters.

Most mains powered devices are repeaters. Smart outlets, switches, plugs, and some light bulbs retransmit any signals they pick up to extend the range of the network.

That being said, I do have a dedicated repeater like you're asking about, because I needed one to jump from the house to the garage and it has noticeably better range than the smart plug I had installed in the same spot.

spark warren
#

i have lots of TP Link smart plugs around the house , Unifi APs not sure if they transmit zigbee

gaunt widget
#

Unrelated, does anyone know if the Jasco embrighten switches (the ones that look like standard toggles) are end of life? They seem to be mostly out of stock. I really like the fact that they're not paddle switches for aesthetic reasons.

sterile forum
#

Hello guys, I'm new here. Can you please direct me so that I spam the least?
I'd like to attempt to make work this template
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/configurable-cover-entities-to-invert-close-open/409595/17
for my zigbee shade controllers
https://www.sunricher.com/zigbee-curtain-motor-controller-sr-zg9080a.html#product_tabs_resources
I have only a first and small experience editing configuration.yaml using Studio Code Server.
I don't know where to start or even where to ask for advice.
I'm running HA 13.1 via VirtualBox on Win 10.
I'm aware of fundamental sources of info such as
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/yaml/
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/
as well as many threads treating my issue.
Can you please indicate what could be my best next steps?

spark warren
gaunt widget
spark warren
gaunt widget
spark warren
#

i paired 2 smart blind openers with HA/sonoff dongle in my study then installed them on the blinds . I was getting timeout errors when trying to operate them

gaunt widget
spark warren
#

i have a bunch of TP Link Kasa plugs which i havevnt added to HA yet is adding them enough for them to act as repeaters

gaunt widget
spark warren
#

yeah wifi only.

gaunt widget
spark warren
#

i do have a couple of amazon echo dots and a harmony hub might see if they could work

gaunt widget
#

Dots also don't support Zigbee afaik.

#

The harmony does appear to.

spark warren
#

should it show up my ZHA devices? or would i need to be paired

gaunt widget
spark warren
#

ah it needs a home hub extender to work

forest cobalt
rigid wagon
#

how do i tell a light to increase in brightness with home assistant? without it telling to go on

#

using z2m as addon

forest cobalt
fringe juniper
#

Hello all,
I recently installed a SkyConnect (ZBT-1) USB stick on my Synology NAS and connected it to a VM running Home Assistant. It was working fine, but after a reboot (trying to migrate from ZHA to Z2M), the USB stick is no longer recognized by the NAS or by any computer (with the good drivers). I've tried reconnecting it, but without success. Could you please help me troubleshoot this issue?
As it is no longer recognized I cannot try to flash it :/ and as it is not recognized in my NAS, it is not the USB VM passthrough the issue.
Thanks in advance for your time and help ha

rigid wagon
#

If in z2m i flip the led controller on, it goes on (with a fade effect) and immediately goes off without a fade effect. (Transitioning effects are all off, the device automatically does this effect whether set or not)

#

It then stays "on" in z2m, while it turned itself off in reality. If its off and i simply turn the brightness higher or lower in z2m, it stays on instead of turning off.
This behavior is also common in other led controllers i found.

Could you tell me what exactly i have to publish to the mosquitto broker and how? Never did this manually. Always used service calls.

smoky epoch
forest cobalt
#

I think you could also add state: 'OFF' to the payload as well.

austere patio
fringe juniper
austere patio
rigid wagon
fringe juniper
austere patio
#

Sent you a DM

rigid wagon
#

or simply go minus or plus a value?

atomic yew
#

hrmm, any ideas why my lights will occasionally stop responding to Z2M? If i restart the add-on it all works fine again for a bit. seems to be exacerbated by more frequent calls, e.g. if i turn on 'party mode' where I set a different colour on 17 bulbs every 2 seconds a few of them will drop off after a few minutes

austere patio
atomic yew
#

Aeotec Zi-Stick

austere patio
#

Are you addressing the bulbs individually or are they part of a Zigbee group?

atomic yew
#

individually, as i want each one to be a different colour (selected at random using a script)

austere patio
#

What bulbs are they?

#

And after they "drop off", does power cycling them bring them back?

atomic yew
#

ikea tradfri

#

will try a power cycle now

austere patio
#

What firmware version are they running?

#

And what firmware version is your Zi-Stick running?

forest cobalt
atomic yew
#

power cycle didn't bring them back, still stuck on the last colour they were on before they stopped responding

#

bulbs firmware version "10.0.21" and build date "2019062886LEL08N"

#

not sure where to find the coordinator fw

austere patio
#

Have you ever updated the bulb firmwares? It's a pretty old one given the build date.

atomic yew
#

nope, and i've clicked 'check for new updates' on the OTA tab but no new version is shown

austere patio
#

Looks like that may be the latest

atomic yew
#

there are no error/warning messages in the Z2M logs, but i also can't see any publishes for the lights that have stopped responding

#

could try a firmware update i suppose, hope i don't brick it!

leaden spear
#

Are there reasons for 'device did not respond' other than RF/layer 1 being spotty? The devices in question paired without a hitch, but switching on/off from HA yeilds this message in the UI.

austere patio
#

What device is it?

leaden spear
#

Namron 1402767 dimmer. Mains connected.

#

No OTA firmware available for this exact model, aparently.

#

But they do claim compatibility with Homey and Futurehome.

austere patio
#

What happens if you power cycle it?

leaden spear
#

I see the OnOff reporting status is None. Is that expected?

leaden spear
austere patio
#

If the device isn't responding at all and you can control other devices on the network (so there isn't RF interference near the coordinator affecting all traffic), there's not much else you can do other than reboot it, unfortunately

atomic yew
leaden spear
#

The device is responding. I can control the light. State is not reflected in the HA gui, but the device responds to commands.

austere patio
#

Where is "device did not respond" being logged then?

leaden spear
#

pop-up in the UI

austere patio
#

So the device receives the command and does something but HA says that it did not respond?

leaden spear
#

yes

austere patio
#

Sounds like the device can't send anything back. What is near the device? USB 3.0 ports? 2.4GHz WiFi routers? SSDs? TVs?

leaden spear
#

The dimmer is not near anything else but two other dimmers of the same kind.

austere patio
#

And others don't have this problem?

#

What happens if you swap it with another one?

leaden spear
#

Yes. All 3 having the same problem

#

sorry for being unclear about that

austere patio
#

Hmm. Download ZHA diagnostics, it'll contain an energy_scan section. What does it look like?

leaden spear
#

LQI: 72, RSSI: -82

#

Can anything be inferred from those values?

#

will get diags

#

Right. Not diags for the device in question, but the controller?

austere patio
#

The whole integration

leaden spear
austere patio
#

What channel is your network on? You can find that in the integration "Configure" page.

leaden spear
#

15

austere patio
#

Do you have any Zigbee devices near your coordinator?

leaden spear
#

I do. 2x FYRTUR and 1x SILVERGLANS

austere patio
#

And you have no issues controlling any devices other than these dimmers?

leaden spear
#

the first two are batterypowered.

#

No, none that I have experienced. The 3 dimmers appears to be the only ones directly connected to the controller, if I understand it correctly.

austere patio
#

Hmm. Do you have a 2.4GHz WiFi network on channel 8 or 9?

#

You could try moving your Zigbee network to another channel but you have significant RF noise on pretty much all of the safe ones

leaden spear
#

No. 1, 6 and 11. Separate house.

#

I'll try to disable the AP transmitting on 1

austere patio
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Can you double check? Maybe it's not your network but there's definitely something that looks like WiFi transmitting on a non-standard channel

leaden spear
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will do. I agree it looks kinda odd. I do have some bluetooth sensors transmitting. Where would that show up in the spectrum?

austere patio
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They share frequencies but sensors really wouldn't impact communication with mains-powered devices

leaden spear
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these transmit at ~1 Hz or so. But the battery lasts for 3-5 years, so the tx power cannot be a lot.

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How often is the energy_scan performed?

austere patio
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Just when you download diagnostics

leaden spear
austere patio
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Your channel looks to have pretty high signals. Either due to a device right next to the coordinator constantly transmitting (unlikely unless it's a router) or there's something else interfering

leaden spear
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are the reported values after making the local controller quiet?

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I do have a switch. Nearby. And some TB3 gear. Can shut down that as well.

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at least the TB3 gear

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Got a UPS nearby. And, I realize, my homeserver has its management interface via wifi. But transmitting on 5GHz

leaden spear
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My rpi is powered via a PoE->5V adapter thingy. That may also make noise, of course. And the BT-adapter on the rpi itself.

austere patio
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Is your coordinator on a USB extension cable?

leaden spear
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Yes. The one that came with the Nabu Casa dongle. I just powered the pi down. Moving it to a different location. BBIAB

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Hmmm. Will Hue devices make noise if they cannot find the controller they once were connected to? Totally forgot those downlights..... 😬

austere patio
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Not really, "noise" here would be something that isn't Zigbee traffic. Devices from a different network don't interfere any more than devices from the same network

leaden spear
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dimmers behave the same. Can find yet another position for HA and the dongle. I just moved it horisontally now. Can move it up one floor. That may have to wait until tomorrow.

austere patio
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How many devices do you have on your network? You can change your network channel from 15 to 11 if you can guarantee that no WiFi AP will ever use channels 1 or 2

jaunty light
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Hi! Anyone had problem with Ikea SOMRIG button? It's visible to HA but cannot end configuring, proccess is freezing on configuring and debriefing completed.
I'm using Zigbee Home Automation addon on Pi 4, with Zigbee Dongle 3.0 Plus

leaden spear
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  1. And ~12 Hue downlights which I currently ignore as zigbee devices.
leaden spear
austere patio
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Depends on the brands but most stuff does. If it doesn't, you can usually change the channel back.

leaden spear
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OK. I'll try to move the HA and dongle first. If that does not pay off, I'll give channel 11 a spin. I see there may be some hassle with battery-powered devices, but I guess it will be manageable.

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Thank you for your assistance today, @austere patio .

austere patio
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Hopefully you get the switches working after moving things around!

upbeat latch
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Hi all. Pretty new to HA and zigbee here.
Has anyone had success pairing Legrand Remote Switches with ZHA?

I've managed to pair normal legrand switches with ZHA successfully, but the remote switch shows up as just a "binary input" that is "off" forever, clicking on/off on the switch doesn't seem to trigger anything. I do see "checkin" events so it does seem like its paired?

fierce parcel
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Hello, quick question I just learn about direct link logic of Z2M, on the example it was a link with a lamp but in some room I have groups. Is this config correct ? I want my remote to be usable even if my coordinator is dead, but I m using automation and not z2m scenes: https://pasteboard.co/Ided2cVXmnBz.png

thick igloo
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nothing is more devastating than seeing the new ikea tradfri's are now in stock at your local ikea, but then checking and seeing your boob light uses gu24s

austere patio
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Hey, this would be a discussion for #diy-archived, not #zigbee-archived. If you can start a thread in that channel and ping me, we can continue there.

tiny timber
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The Parasol/Badring/Vallhorn are finally in 🇦🇺 if anyone is interested. I picked up a few Parasol the other day. Haven't set them up yet, but nice to have AAAs for rechargeable nature.

daring fog
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What are the chances something like this would pair with HA and without needing any Tuya or cloud connection?

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Also, when looking on AliExpress how can I tell if a Zigbee device can be paired directly with HA or if it needs some kind of Tuya integration?

gaunt widget
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Sonoff is a good cheap option for Zigbee items that work well with HA without too much fiddling.

opal juniper
orchid tundra
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as for whether it works, it's usually a good indication if they say "Z2M" somewhere in the product title, pictures, or description

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but honestly, a lot of it is a dice roll

orchid tundra
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as an end user, it's nice having stupid cheap sensors to litter throughout your smart home, but for the developers it incentivizes bad behaviors on the manufacturer's parts

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you could argue we're not their primary demographic, though

gaunt widget
orchid tundra
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you'd expect that, but it isn't the case for whatever reason

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be it ignorance, willful blindness, or something else

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at the end of the day, their primary platform is Tuya flavor of Zigbee, after all

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also I think the Connectivity Standards Alliance charges a fee for hardware/software certification, and given the margins these devices are being sold at that's likely not a cost that's been considered

gaunt widget
orchid tundra
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honestly I expected it to be way more expensive

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$500's not an insignificant cost, but still lower than expected

gaunt widget
orchid tundra
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exactly, yeah

gaunt widget
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Yikes matter is worse though. The entry fee alone is 7,000

orchid tundra
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huh, I can use stickers here. Interesting.

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Anyways, yeah that is pricey, ouch

stoic cloud
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I can't get my ZHA to get back up. I had an issue with HA getting into a boot loop for the last couple of days. That seemed to have been caused by the Raspberry power adapter. HA is running fine again after replacing that. But ZHA keeps showing errors. (Failed to set up). I have the impression the Sonoff dongle is not put to use, although it is listed in Hardware as "
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_d854ebe5f9d8eb119bd50a15b9da5f8b-if00-port0". How can I reconfigure ZHA?

lofty junco
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good morning everyone ♥
I'm searching for something I don't know exits:
An LED spot (something like this: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61UqWumpzaL._AC_SL1500_.jpg) but with a rechargable battery and zigbee connection, so I can integrate it into my HA. Those spots do exists without zigbee, where they ship some small infrared remote control for the colors, light etc.
Would the zigbee feature consume too much power maybe, so that this product doesn't really exist? The battery should of course not be empty after a few days (on standby) :/
Any ideas?

orchid tundra
gaunt widget
lofty junco
orchid tundra
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in a sense, I suppose. You're just adding another step into the process

gaunt widget
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A quick look at parts suggests the radio alone for Zigbee draws 30-40 mA, as opposed to the receiver for IR at 2-4 MICRO amps

orchid tundra
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I guess on the subject of Tuya devices, there is one that Smart Home Scene reviewed that works in Z2M and ZHA with a quirk (the Tuya ZS06/UFO-R11)

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has both a wall powered and battery powered version

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I'd admittedly been eyeing the wall powered version

lofty junco
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so, my usecase is (in case i'm missing some other option), that i have a closet with some open slots and i want to have those small spots in there for some cozy lighting. But I don't want to put holes into the back of the closet and have to move it around to do some wireing in the back. My fallback is the IR remote solution, so doing it by hand, but of course i would love to have this somehow integrated into my HA.

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or..... ok, question. I sketched my layout (https://ibb.co/dkjsq3q, top-view). Left side buttom is the big closet with the led-spot. The blue line on the right is the wall. If i would place an IR blaster where the green dot is (top left), would the IR-light be reflected off the blue wall and then reach the led-spot? I'm not into IR that much, sorry for qsking x_x

orchid tundra
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don't see any reason why it shouldn't work

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well, assuming there's line of sight

lofty junco
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i'll guess i will be sticking with the manual IR solution for now, but good to know that there are IR blasters for zigbee. another room layout in the future might allow for that option. thanks for the explanations 🙂

orchid tundra
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no problem :3

stoic cloud
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Reposting my message, I think the other diagogue over shadowed it: I can't get my ZHA to get back up. I had an issue with HA getting into a boot loop for the last couple of days. That seemed to have been caused by the Raspberry power adapter. HA is running fine again after replacing that. But ZHA keeps showing errors. (Failed to set up). I have the impression the Sonoff dongle is not put to use, although it is listed in Hardware as "
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_d854ebe5f9d8eb119bd50a15b9da5f8b-if00-port0". How can I reconfigure ZHA?

gaunt widget
stoic cloud
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I just tried, still get the same error, after selecting the serial port in ZHA integration: Unknown error occurred

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The SONOFF ZigBee 3.0 USB Dongle still shows as a device. I had tried to delete it, hoping it would reinstall. But the device is still there, only the entity got deleted.

tropic depot
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What errors are in the log (the file itself.L not the HA log screen)

fleet whale
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Did anyone try using the tuya fingerbot plus with a z2m + conbee 3?

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I got one from amazon, it joined fine, it worked for a few presses then decided to not anymore

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pressing physical button on it works, resetting and rejoining gets me the same behavior

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after a while it just seemingly goes to sleep and then all requests fail with no response received

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z2m: Publish 'set' 'state' to '0xa4c13819640d2c76' failed: 'Error: ZCL command 0xa4c13819640d2c76/1 genOnOff.off({}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (132))'

fleet whale
stoic cloud
# tropic depot What errors are in the log (the file itself.L not the HA log screen)

I couldn't find appropiate logs. I spent some hours flashing the Sonoff rom (first time, needed Pithon), and several reboots and reinstalls of whatsever, and now the device seems to be working again. Rebuilding the network of zigbee devices at the moment. Annoying how I don't recall exact names, so I may have to alter automations later...

hard cypress
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I am getting started and suppose I need a Zigbee hub that works with HA. Any suggestions on what to get? The SONOFF ZigBee 3.0 USB Dongle looks promising but recent reviews seem to indicate it's a lot of work to get it going with HA

austere patio
hard cypress
austere patio
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Make sure you get a USB extension cable if you buy a stick that doesn't come with one

hard cypress
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I noticed that. I have a pile of them here.

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To get started with the dongle and a single temperature sensor, can I just use my windows PC? Or do I need HA on a Pi or other HW?

austere river
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Z2M /w Sonoff coordinator

How do you decide whether to connect a new bulb to a repeater bulb, or to the coordinator?

Example, I have Bulb A which is 76/145 link to my coordinator, and Bulb B which is 55/115 to my coordinator. The link between the 2 bulbs is 143/140.

How do I make sense of those values? Physically, bulb A sits in between bulb B and the coordinator, but the distance isn't really that big.

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Or when I do "permit all" instead of a specific permit, does it automatically choose the best one?

austere patio
austere patio
austere river
hard cypress
austere patio
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Absolutely. Without HA the dongle does nothing.

stoic cloud
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Looks similar to my situation. I spent about 10 hours getting things to slowly work again. Now busy re-adding about 20 devices

proper violet
uncut pelican
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heya i was wondering, after updating my HA Green and rebooting my zigbee devices have been dropping like flies...
i tried plugging in a few IKEA zigbee repeaters but so far this hasn't solved it.

the place i'm using it in is just a small appartment so i dont think the range would have anything to do with it

anyone got some ideas on how i can stabilize my zigbee network again?

austere patio
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What integration and coordinator are you using?