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red ermine
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its running in an Unraid VM

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rebooted several times now, doesnt work

main ruin
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I think it was just sonoff coordinator or something similar

red ermine
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sent you a DM with the results since i cant post screenshots here... but the coordinator shows up with the "ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/"

ashen bluff
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Please no screenshots. Text. See bot message.

red ermine
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cant copy out of that console

ashen bluff
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Use a SSH client 🙂

red ermine
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that would require a working SSH client on HA, i've never set this up

ashen bluff
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Whether you use the link or ttyACM0 shouldn't really matter much for now. They should both behave the same.
It's just that the link stays like it is while ttyACM0 can change its name.
Here's your picture so others don't miss out on it: https://i.imgur.com/KZBxrNO.png

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ashen bluff
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Maybe you can enable debug logging for the integration. "Not working" is not that descriptive.

red ermine
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whish i just could reset ZHA and use the backup ive saved a week ago....

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i could post that log... its freakin long, but doesnt give a hint why it doesnt want to connect (at least what i can tell), but ill put it to pastebin

ashen bluff
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I'm not familiar with ZHA but someone might be able to get some information out of it.

red ermine
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well... the paste is too large

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red ermine
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okay... fine... i'm ready to reconnect all devices by hand, rename them again, redo my automations... but how in the world do i reset ZHA?

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cause nothing works. I can see that HA recognizes the damn stick, to make sure, i've shut downt the VM, unplugged the Coordinator, started again, doesnt show in the Device list (what a surprise). I give up...

red ermine
remote patio
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does anyone know of a door lock not designed for an external door but an internal one like an office or a bedroom? or is that not a thing yet?

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oh.. and i just realised a problem i wasn't anticipating with a zigbee light switch i got

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is it possible to decouple the relays from the buttons :/

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
remote patio
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zigbee.. i know i can do it with tasmota but those are wifi.. i didn't really think it through.. guess i can always toggle the relay along with an automation

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this one in particular'

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i haven't even powered it up yet

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4 gang

forest cobalt
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Ugh... Moes/Tuya. So, the answer is maybe. It depends on if the switch has a cluster setting to enable/disable decoupled mode. Some do, some don't.

remote patio
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i didn't realise that you could even decouple with zigbee.. i just didn't consider it after being used to tasmota on all my switches

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just ordered it on a whim because i was interested in a 4 gang switch and a possible zigbee repeater

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ordered a round zigbee button too which seems a total clone of the xiaomu aquara buttons

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i hope it supports the fulla range of button presses

forest cobalt
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IF it will even route. There was someone here (I don't remember who) that ordered a Moes neutral/non-neutral switch and it showed up as an end device.

remote patio
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hence POSSIBLE

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would be nice

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the aquara ceiling light i recently got acts as a repeater. very nice

forest cobalt
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So, reading the reviews on it. It doesn't route. It's an end device.

remote patio
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wtf would it act like that? blasphemy

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also where did you find reviews?

forest cobalt
remote patio
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one review says that.. i hope they are mistaken

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might wire it up now to see

forest cobalt
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Well, generally speaking, in devices that have a neutral/non-neutral option, they are almost always end devices. VERY few execeptions to that rule.

remote patio
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well neutral and live are mandatory here

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so is ground

forest cobalt
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Right. But that logic is baked into the firmware for the device itself.

remote patio
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htf do i pair this thing?

forest cobalt
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Dunno? What do the instructions say? lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

remote patio
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i can't find them.. ordered too much stuff from aliexpress

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ahh.. got it

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it wants me to use an app.. surely there is another way

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there is literally too much instructions.. i can't find mention of manual pairing

forest cobalt
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Do you have a model number for it?

grim igloo
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16/f/cali

remote patio
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i'd upload a photo but i can't

rapid dawnBOT
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@remote patio Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

remote patio
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maybe in another 10 years it will be easier to share images

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yeah.. still a 10 step process :/

forest cobalt
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Sorry. IIWII.

remote patio
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i have no idea what that means

forest cobalt
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It is what it is 🙂

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Mostly it's to prevent people from sharing code as an image. Makes troubleshooting so much harder.

remote patio
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do they even have an app so that i don't have to email the image to myself?

forest cobalt
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Imgur? Yes.

remote patio
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i've found a bunch f unofficial apps so far

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guess i have to randomly choose one

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f off.. o way that username is in use.. i'm probably already registered

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signing up to this makes me want to blow my brains out.. it refuses to go next when i enter my mobile

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no reasons

forest cobalt
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lol just go to a browser window and do it. No sign up needed.

remote patio
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now says "you do not have access to this"

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and now what? it didn't give me a link

forest cobalt
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There should be a get link button to the right.

remote patio
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I hated this.

forest cobalt
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This is what I found on google: Press the switch button for 6 times,and hold on the 6th time,then release until you hear Di-Di-Di(3 times)

remote patio
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i didn't hear anything but the light started to flash

forest cobalt
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Then it should be in pairing mode.

remote patio
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TS0014

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thank you

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Tuya Switch I guess

forest cobalt
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Yup. Moes is nothing more than rebranded Tuya crap.

remote patio
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i don't think there is a way to decouple the relays from the buttons

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so it's going to stay in a box as a novelty

forest cobalt
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Nope. No decoupled mode.

remote patio
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tuya is fine as long as i can flash it to esphome

forest cobalt
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Yup, that is true.

remote patio
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i have a few that i need to do phisically.. i dread that

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i wish there were open firmwares for zigbee devices

graceful elm
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Does a Zigbee device in ZHA, need to support Reporting Configuration? I see the command from HA show up, and I just reply with a not supported and everything seems to work fine, that said I had failed to implement some other commands earlier and ZHA became more feature complete, and it broke all my devices. Basically, I'm cleaning things up and curious if I should build this out or can safely skip it.

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If not, I can continue trying to figure out how to support zigbee groups...

bright pagoda
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Hey all, i have just received some of the IKEA Tradfri bulbs today and i am trying to link them to my Home Assistant but i do not understand how though
I have the SkyConnect Coordinator
Could anyone advise how this is done?
Thank you

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sour shadow
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Have you read the fine manual docs?

bright pagoda
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I was just in the process of looking at them while i wrote my message

sour shadow
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There's a clearly named section there that talks about adding

bright pagoda
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I was just kind of confused seeing as all the other devices i have done so far have used a button to make it pair. But the bulbs of course do not have this on them. So I was not exactly sure how it is meant to be done

sour shadow
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The bulbs came with instructions

bright pagoda
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No i still have the instructions.
It tells me to link it to the IKEA hub which i have not bought because my understanding was i can connect it to the SkyConnect co-ordinator
I see a part in there about toggling the power 6 times to reset the device but nothing else. And the link you sent there does not explain how to discover the bulb on HA from what i can see

sour shadow
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That link lists many devices, and has instructions for adding/pairing most devices

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Hint ||resetting a device is the first step in pairing them||

bright pagoda
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Also i tried to do the reset. It did not work

sour shadow
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Also

bright pagoda
sour shadow
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Then you didn't do it exactly right

bright pagoda
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-_-

sour shadow
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Or it's outside of range of your coordinator

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Or you have interference

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Or all the above

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  1. Coordinator is on a USB extension cable?
  2. Device is within 6 meters of the coordinator?
  3. No more than one wall away?
bright pagoda
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manufacturer book does not state and guide does not state. Should the reset be started while the bulb is off or on? or no difference?
Device and coordinator are in the same room

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In a small bedroom

sour shadow
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What does it say to do to reset them?

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The first step will say turn on or turn off

bright pagoda
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Book states toggle the main switch 6 times

sour shadow
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Start with it off then

bright pagoda
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Ok, I finally got it
I had to start with the bulb powered on and it wasn't a case of doing it as off is 1 on is 2 off is 3
It was off on is 1 off on is 2 off on is 3 etc

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But looks like i have it now

frigid sky
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Am I correct that ZHA, as an integration, shuts down and restarts every time I restart Home Assistant? I think this can cause problems in my crappy zigbee network.

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I prefer ZHA to z2m mostly, but I like the idea of having a more appliance-like, always-on coordinator like z2m that doesn't stop working every time I restart HA. Is there knowledge here of people running a bare-bones HA with ZHA on a rpi and coordinating that standalone HA with their main HA?

sour shadow
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Yes, and it shouldn't cause issues as long as the coordinator has power

frigid sky
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"shouldn't" and zigbee have a long and complicated history

sour shadow
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Well... all bets are off with Sonoff and Tuya

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Otherwise you're gonna be fine

frigid sky
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I'm a HUSBZB user

sour shadow
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Oh... you poor soul

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They do better sticks for the last decade now

frigid sky
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what's the best stick these days?

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I also use the zwave functionality

sour shadow
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Tube/SMlight - and a separate Z-Wave stick

frigid sky
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I move a lot of stuff to z2m using a sonoff e or p

sour shadow
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Sonoff E is fine

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The P is ... well, maybe you'll be ok, maybe you won't

dusky flint
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Question for people that's got the slzb-06. The interface is reporting that the SoC temperature is 98-100 degrees Celsius. 😵‍💫 The device doesn't feel warm itself. Anyone else seeing this?

frigid sky
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I also was using a lot of ledvance and other crappily implemented zigbee lights

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POE is nice to move it away from all interference

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is there consensus about the best off the shelf repeaters to get?

obsidian pasture
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hi all need some advice hopefully with this. Tuya Zigbee RGB Controller 15A 12V 180W Smart Life Gateway Hub 5V 24V Alexa Google 3CH COB RGB LED Strip Light ZigBee Controller
Notes:
1.This zigbee led strip controller needs to be used with zigbee gateway.
2.Works with Home Assistant Zigbee2MQTT and ZHA. Feature:

  1. Ultra-low power consumption and energy saving.
  2. Support connect for H-u-e/Tuya/Smartthings/Echo(4 th)/Echo Plus/Echo Show(2nd)/Echo studio and any Zigbee 3.0 standard gateway.
frigid sky
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?

obsidian pasture
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its says it will connect to a standard gateway , which i have on the home assistant the zigbee matter stick

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does anyone think i can get it to pair

remote patio
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once you've added a device is there an easy way to tell if it's justr an endpoint or a router?

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using z2m

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oh lame.. xiaomi aqara did up to 5 presses and a release with this button but tuya just does 2 presses and hold

urban falcon
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is there any ZB thermometer that's reliable in -20C conditions? as well as reliable in general. i have the Aqara WSDCGQ11LM and it's falling off the network even when reboot of my HA box takes more than usual.

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philips hue motion multisensor is looking ok, but it has so much worse resolution...

analog shuttle
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Im trying to install a zigbee stick using zigbee2mqtt but im getting this error....

[2024-08-09 17:50:48] error: zh:ezsp:ezsp: Connection attempt 2 error: Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_fa07472542a6ed119eeceba32981d5c7-if00

any thoughts?

odd fog
forest cobalt
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Spoiler alert: It was an end device @remote patio 😛 (kidding) lol

coarse forge
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Anyone know if there's a zigbee2mqtt discord server? or is it okay to ask general questions about zigbee2mqtt here? I have a lot of questions that don't bear any relation to Home Assistant, as I'm using Node-RED for all my automation logic...

forest cobalt
coarse forge
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do you have a link? [just seen the above link, thanks] I'll ask here as well...

I have a Sonoff water irrigation valve that connects to Zigbee2MQTT. I need to monitor the connection state of this valve, in case of signal dropout, which could lead to water staying turned on for a long time.

If I send a "get" request over MQTT it returns the state of this sensor, however it's my understanding that the MQTT message returned will reflect the state according to Zigbee2MQTT, i.e. its internal / stored state. If the device hasn't connected for e.g. 12 hours due to battery / fault / signal issue, then I'll be getting an incorrect state.

What's the best way to approach this problem? Can I query Zigbee2MQTT for its own "last seen" status? Or even better, query Zigbee2MQTT to see whether its current stored state matches the actual state of the device as known within the last e.g. 5 mins?

forest cobalt
coarse forge
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Oh that's really great. Thank you. I didn't know about this- should have read the docs!

dusky flint
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After rebuilding my z2m network, all automations that includes buttons says "Automation is unavailable". I've named the devices to the same entity name as before, and clicked the buttons so they are detected. The on_press action is available in the automation, and no trigger is unknown. Any ideas? Do I need to re-create the automation? https://i.imgur.com/7ZQyJwE.png

radiant sentinel
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hi i want to ask if someone is having same issue with sonoff SNZB-03 (motion sensor) after updating to latest core version, first they became unavailable and i can't add them back anymore

forest cobalt
dusky flint
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
dusky flint
sick matrix
forest cobalt
molten sierra
winter lance
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Stupid question....
I installed a Zigbee USB on my HA, and then added the "Zigbee Home Automation" integration.
How do I add devices now?

vale bolt
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probably on Setting-> Devices&Services -> ZHA -> configure -> devices i guess

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Hey guys anybody know wheres the official links of the official firmware for Sonoff ZBDongle-E?

winter lance
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I think that's the dongle I have

winter lance
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Hmmmm, I have two zigbee devices on that I need to get into HA, but neither are popping up to add.

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Do I need to install the app on my phone to add them, then import into HA? I didn't think I needed to.

winter lance
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Does that help?

plucky rover
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Noob question: I’m thinking about getting some Aquara temp sensors. Should I just buy their hub or try to get some more generic zigbee hub?

bright pagoda
vale bolt
vale bolt
winter lance
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"To add new devices to the network, call the permit action on the zha domain. Do this by clicking the Actions tab in Developer tools and typing zha.permit in the Action dropdown box. Next, follow the device instructions for adding, scanning or factory reset."

Am I blind, I don't see an Actions option in Developer Tools

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I've got YAML, States, Services, Template, Events, Statistics and Assist

kind herald
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I recently got a few Ikea Tradfri's. I can add them in HA but I can't control anything. It shows up as a Light, with power button and slides but nothing works. I see there's a Tradfri integration but it asks for a host and a key, Im guessing that's some kind of hub? I am using zigbee2mqtt with Dresden zigbee usb stick. Anyway, any ideas please?

winter lance
winter lance
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I am trying to flash the firmware using the web flasher, and getting "The running firmware could not be detected." I've tried 4 diff USB ports 😦

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Anyone know how to tell what firmware is on the dongle?

austere patio
winter lance
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Am I blind, I swear I don't see an Add Device button. What page is it on?

dusky flint
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My SLZB-06 is idling around 100 degrees celsius. Should I lower the transmit power? What is a good value to go for?

austere patio
dusky flint
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Should I not then?

austere patio
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Definitely not 😬

dusky flint
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Really! How come they suggest it then?

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I'll remove it and see what happens

graceful elm
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We don't have a date/time cluster in the zcl, correct?

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Just seeing RTC options

austere patio
# dusky flint Really! How come they suggest it then?

Zigbee communication is bidirectional. Just because your coordinator can transmit at a higher power doesn't mean that other devices on the network can transmit back. It will also create asymmetry and cause devices to prefer to join to the coordinator instead of choosing healthier routes.

dusky flint
austere patio
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I'd just remove it and stick to the firmware default

dusky flint
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Hopefully I don't need to repair everything again then lol

austere patio
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It may temporarily mess up communication just a little for nearby routers but it shouldn't break anything

dusky flint
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Time will tell! Thanks

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If I would like to re-pair a device in z2m, do I need to remove it first? Or can I just trigger the pairing and the device will find a new route if it can?

austere patio
dusky flint
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Great

austere patio
graceful elm
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Thanks, pdf search on mobile isn't that great

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Trying to decide if it's worth trying to implement and control a schedule on the device or just let home assistant take care of it, leaning to the latter, but figured I should at leastoom at it

dusky flint
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I have some devices that are clearly not taking the closest route, instead they are going straight for the coordinator with quite poor LQI. Is it recommended to force these devices to take a route via the closest router? Or just let them decide themselves?

forest cobalt
# dusky flint I have some devices that are clearly not taking the closest route, instead they ...

Depends on the devices… generally it’s ok to let the mesh decide, but for older Zigbee1.2 devices (notably Aqara sensors), you should pair to the nearest router. With that said, even if you do, there is no guarantee they will stay on that router as the mesh decides what’s best.

Also, ignore LQI. It is only useful when troubleshooting. I have a lot of devices with a LQI < 20 that work just fine.

plucky rover
dusky flint
dusky flint
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
plucky rover
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Any suggestions on the dongle? I have a multi-story house and the NAS is in the basement. Just want things to communicate properly

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Problem I’m trying to solve is HVAC balance, kind of like ecobee remote sensors, but with a different thermostat.

forest cobalt
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In a large setup, you would definitely want to use a lan coordinator. Either something from https://tubeszb.com or a SMLight SLZB-06P7.

plucky rover
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At that point, maybe I should just get the aquara hub and put it on the main level of the house - just thinking

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I just don’t want to buy something with a “gotcha” where I can’t add stuff later, or there’s some stupid issue where it’s sending all my data to Russia or something.

forest cobalt
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Well, the whole point of HA is local privacy. Yes, you could go with the Aqara hub, but then you are locked into Aqara at that point.

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With a lan coordinator, you can go with pretty much any manufacturer. It just takes a bit more setup and planning.

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Personally, I hate “hubs” in general, so I will never recommend that route.

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(and yes, “hate” is a strong word here, but it applies lol)

plucky rover
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Totally fair. This SLZB-06P7 looks pretty good

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I’ve got wired Ethernet - can put this somewhere centrally and hopefully cover everything

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Trying to figure out how it gets power

forest cobalt
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Exactly. That’s why I recommended it. Plus, you can reduce and/or pretty much eliminate interference.

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It can use POE or USB for power.

plucky rover
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I’ve got a spare injector somewhere, or USB. Thanks

forest cobalt
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Anytime. 🙂

wicked spire
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Hello guys i want to switch from zigbee2mqtt to using ZHA because z2mqtt does not start automaticly on power loss even doe its checked to do so, i was wondering if ZHA to work i need to remove z2mqtt because the bulb in pairing mode does not show up in the zigbee devices on ZHA

dusky flint
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(Sorry, don't think I turned off the ping.)

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
wicked spire
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Seems that when i deleted z2mqtt ZHA started detecting all my devices automaticly thanks

forest cobalt
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No problem!

dusky flint
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Is it possible to get data from the SLZB-06 (webserver) into HA? Either from z2m or via mqtt. As it has a webserver, maybe I could scrape it?

forest cobalt
dusky flint
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Yeah, I mean the case isn't even luke warm, so I'm not too worried, but I figure running that hot will probably shorten its lifespan

forest cobalt
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Nah, not really… no moving parts and if it does degrade the lifespan, it’ll still probably only be by months. Let me put it this way, I have ESPHome devices running non-stop, 24x7 since 2018. PE_PandaShrug

dusky flint
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Transmit power to 5 seemed to have raised the temperatur with about 2 degrees 😑 Oh well, thats reassuring. Guess I'll let it be. But it kind of hurts my hardware heart to have devices running at boiling temps

forest cobalt
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Eh, you’re worrying about something that you don’t need too… yet. Keep an eye on it, sure. But, I wouldn’t worry about it unless you start seeing it really climb. SMLight has done a lot of testing of their devices. If it were an issue, I’m sure they would solve it.

forest cobalt
dusky flint
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Alright then. Good to hear!

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Now I want Apollo sensors...

forest cobalt
leaden spear
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hi. Trying to migrate from Texas Instruments Csomething to Sky Connect. Curious of HA supports more than one coordinator at the same time.

molten linden
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One coordinator per zigbee mesh. HA only supports running one mesh. You a run z2m along side or multiple z2m instances.

leaden spear
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I think I understand that. I would prefer using ZHA, I think. What would the process be like to eliminate the TI coordinator and replace it with skyconnect? remove all devices from the existing coordinator first?

molten linden
leaden spear
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just found it! great.

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I may have screwed up. looks like it failed.

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but redoing it worked. had to replace the ieee address. all good, I think

full anchor
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If I'm running mqtt anyway for other things, should I go for z2mqtt or zha?

main ruin
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The battery indicator on the Ikea door sensors does not work at all

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Wondered why they weren't responding anymore, they were like dead dead

leaden spear
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I spoke too soon. Everything looks good. But doesn't actually work.

austere patio
graceful elm
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Ok, what device type should I choose for a pet feeder?

leaden spear
austere patio
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Specifically, if you have any motion, temperature, etc. sensors, do they report properly?

leaden spear
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hitting the dimmer on the wall reports state changes in HA

austere patio
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When you switched dongles, did you use the provided USB extension cable? Is your SkyConnect near any USB 3.0 devices or SSDs?

leaden spear
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I did use the provided cable. It is plugged into a rpi4, usb2 port

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these ports are next to usb3 ports, but nothing is plugged in there

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I'll try to reposition the dongle slightly

austere patio
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Download diagnostics for the ZHA integration. Can you post a link to them (e.g. through https://dpaste.org/ )?

leaden spear
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moving the dongle did the trick

austere patio
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It generally shouldn't be this sensitive to RF interference. Anything nearby that could be causing it? 2.4GHz WiFi router/mesh system?

leaden spear
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ap is not nearby. but 2.4G wifi is operative, yes.

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I saw a suggestion that wifi channel 11 should be avoided if operating zigbee. Does that hold true?

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guess it depends on capabilities of the zigbee devices

austere patio
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WiFi and Zigbee share frequencies so the specific WiFi channel to avoid depends on your Zigbee channel

leaden spear
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Do I need to enable debugging to see what frequency zigbee uses?

austere patio
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Your channel will be shown in the ZHA configuration page

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Along with more channel- and radio-related counters in the diagnostic JSON

leaden spear
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channel 15. which the internet tells me falls between wifi channel 1 and 6. I use wifi channels 1, 6 and 11

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actually, wifi channels 2,6 and 11

austere patio
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You should be fine then, ZHA strongly prefers 15, 20, and 25 specifically because they won't overlap with common WiFi channels

austere patio
forest cobalt
leaden spear
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is there a known provider for namron firmware updates?

main ruin
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But they were quite some time in storage already here so

austere patio
leaden spear
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right. adding that config enables auto-updates, does it not?

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otau_directory: /config/zb_ota_auto_update <- is that still valid config? I can download the OTAs manually

austere patio
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There's nothing automatic, updates will just show up with the rest of Home Assistant's updates

mellow geode
leaden spear
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I just love OSS with an active community.

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IKEA Fyrtur blinds.... should I keep the repeaters or just pair the blinds directly to the controller/HA?

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I made the last variant work with my TI controller, but it was a bit unstable.

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
leaden spear
austere patio
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The repeaters are just plugs that don't really do anything so they should function no different from any other mains-powered device you have on your network

leaden spear
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my blinds are in the same room as the controller, so I'd expect it to work better than it does. We'll see if moving away from wifi channel 2 does the trick.

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I have a vague recolletion of those blinds being locked to zigbee channel 15? Not sure.

winter lance
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Sadly, looks like I can't do what I was hoping to do with the ZBMINIL2 😦

unreal flicker
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i got a batch of Third Reality, Inc outlets
one of the 4, is claiming 0v, 0a, and 50hz, but i'm in canada, it should be 60hz 120v
anything i should check?

forest cobalt
unreal flicker
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i could also just ignore it, i dont need power monitoring

forest cobalt
unreal flicker
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that sounds better then dealing with amazon and having to return the whole set

graceful elm
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Do we support Multistate inputs?

full anchor
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having connection issues with my ikea smart bulb

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probably around 3 metres from my coordinator and it just won't listen to commands

austere patio
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Is your coordinator on a USB extension cable and away from USB 3.0 ports, SSDs, 2.4GHz WiFi, and other sources of RF interference?

full anchor
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but yes it's on an extension cable away from the port, it is next to the router though since that's what it's plugged into

austere patio
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Have you tried power cycling the device (and any intermediate routers)?

full anchor
austere patio
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What firmware is it running?

full anchor
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0x00011003

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up to date apparently

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TRADFRI bulb E14 WS globe 470lm
by IKEA of Sweden

austere patio
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If you haven't enabled the IKEA OTA provider, try it and click the "check for updates" button a few minutes after reloading Core:

zha:
  zigpy_config:
    ota:
      extra_providers:
        - type: ikea
full anchor
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i would have assumed since it actually says up to date that it was getting OTA

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slightly misleading, i'll give it a shot

austere patio
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That'll be fixed in 2024.9.0

full anchor
austere patio
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It would be in the main update section, here /config/updates

full anchor
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wowhttps://i.imgur.com/KwuKsQk.png

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just for that specific bulb as well

full anchor
austere patio
full anchor
prime drift
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can someone with a hue bridge explain something about range real quick? the site says the bridge has a range of 50ft, but isn't the point of zigbee to make a mesh network? so wouldn't the bridge only need to be in range of some of the devices instead of all of them directly?

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unless their bulbs don't use zigbee?

forest cobalt
prime drift
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ah i knew something seemed off

forest cobalt
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Marketing lol

prime drift
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my main issue is i can't get an ethernet to the floor where most of the bulbs will be, I was hoping it wouldn't be an issue

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seems like it wont

forest cobalt
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It shouldn’t be as long as you have enough routing devices (bulbs, plugs, etc). One thing I do give Hue credit for is they know how make meshing easy.

knotty niche
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hi folks, im looking for a zigbee temp/humidy sensor on aliexpress. i've seen some devices say they only work with a tuya or eWelink hub :/

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is it possible to get these devices working with HA, without these specific hubs? i'm hoping the hub info is more a recommendation, rather than a hard limit 🤞

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can anyone recommend a good zigbee temp/humdity sensor? prefer AA style batteries

carmine hamlet
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The zigbee one will work with any zigbee coordinator. I can't speak for the WiFi one

prime drift
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it says it right on the page "If you need to connect to a third-part smart device, please ensure that your third-party device has a built-in gateway, otherwise it may not be able to be added"

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a bridge with a gateway, is that what a coordinator is?

knotty niche
prime drift
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i have no idea either

knotty niche
knotty niche
prime drift
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i'm impressed its all spelled right

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it seems to me if you already have a zigbee network up and running this should work

knotty niche
distant flume
soft elk
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but that's 100% my fault don't put electronics in a cold environment and expect them to work after you pull them out back into the hot humid summer air

kind herald
#

Folks I currenty run ha with zha with the core-mostquitto broker. Ive recently run into several issues, one is described here #integrations-archived message and https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1268879956361089055 and the latest is #zigbee-archived message. Basically the first is that the plugwise smart plug shows the currently delivering in mW while the units I can choose from are W and kW. The second is Tradfri is pairable and shows up in ha, but none of the controls actually work. For neither of these issues can I find any info and despite the help I got for which I am grateful, my questions here hasn't gotten me anyhwere. How big are my chances that if I switch out my conbee stick for the Connect ZBT-1 and move to Zigbee2MQTT that these two issues will be resolved?

forest cobalt
# kind herald Folks I currenty run ha with zha with the core-mostquitto broker. Ive recently r...

Yeah, that’s a lot of issues. So, first, the plug will report whatever its firmware supports. When you change the unit in HA, that’s not changing the base UOM, but just the way HA handles it. Petro told you the same thing. There’s nothing that can be done about that. For the second problem, I suspect the IKEA bulb is probably bad OR your Conbee2 might be having issues with it if the bulb is on a newer firmware. So, changing your coordinator would probably help. Anything is better than the Conbee, tbh.

forest cobalt
tropic depot
forest cobalt
tropic depot
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we scale them to match the ZCL spec

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mW is not what should be reported IIRC… its early I could be wrong

forest cobalt
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Ahhhh gotcha. Yeah, that makes sense and same. 🤣

tropic depot
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now if it is smartenegerymetering device and not EM then all bets are off… that has a lot more options as it can meter anything

leaden spear
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struggling a bit with adding to an existing zigbee network. would appreciate guidance on order of pairing. Got two dimmers I'd like to control with a single battery-operated knob. I assume all three should be added to the controller before I pair the knob with the dimmers. Am I right, or does the order not matter?

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And can I configure the last bit via HA?

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the magic number of presses and holds makes me a bit frustrated

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
leaden spear
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Namron

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Managed to bind one dimmer to the knob via HA.

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But not the other, identical dimmer

bold nymph
#

Hello, I'm looking for an alternative for the tuya presence sensors that doesn't break my wallet like the fp1-2, since they keep spamming the zigbee network. Are the Sonoff ones good?

leaden spear
kind herald
# forest cobalt Yeah, that’s a lot of issues. So, first, the plug will report whatever its firmw...

Thanks! I'll have a look for one of those devices. With regards to the Tradfri's, I have three of them, new and all three behave the same. The remotes refuse to pair with HA as well. I read they can be troublesome but it just woudn't show up no matter what. Perhaps thats the Conbee too.

I know theres a guide to migrate to a new device, would you recommend I also change ZHA to Zigbee2MQTT while Im at it?

tropic depot
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YMMV really a personal choice

forest cobalt
leaden spear
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
bold nymph
forest cobalt
# bold nymph Forgot to mention it should be available on Aliexpress, otherwise I can’t get it...

🤔 Well, that narrows the choices way down. Which country are you in? Apollo uses Orange for overseas shipping, so they might be able to ship to you.

As for other presence sensors, not really sure. Most Zigbee presence sensors are going to either spam the mesh OR take a while to register the presence change. IIRC, the Linptech sensors (also sold under the Moes brand) don’t spam very much, but they can be slow to respond at times.

unreal flicker
#

how would i view the routing mesh for my zigbee network? (its managed by zha)

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hmmm, it wasnt doing it yesterday, but the visualization tab does now show links between nodes

kind herald
molten linden
forest cobalt
coarse forge
#

Hello - I have a Sonoff Water Valve (SWV) and I connected it to Zigbee2MQTT. Worked flawlessly for about 24 hours, as in - it responded to get requests over MQTT immediately, the valve state showing in Zigbee2MQTT reflected the actual valve state (as in - you can see water coming out or not...) etc.

Today however I noticed the device started giving various errors in Zigbee2MQTT. I force-removed the device and re-joined it, and now I'm getting regular messages again over MQTT (wasn't before) but still getting errors in Zigbee2MQTT, and the valve state doesn't actually reflect the device's valve open/close. If I click the valve state to open or close, it just errors.

Any ideas how I can make this thing reliable? Is it more likely to be a device issue, or a Zigbee2MQTT issue?

It's showing "Just Now" under the "Last Seen" column in Zigbee2MQTT, so it seems that it's reporting back fine.

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eg

z2m: Failed to bind cluster 'genPollCtrl' from 'irrigation' to 'Coordinator' (Error: Bind 0x842712fffe17ebfa/1 genPollCtrl from '0x00124b00258cc1a8/1' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms))

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...
Just now I dejoined and rejoined the device to Zigbee2MQTT, and immediately I was able to use the switch in Zigbee2MQTT to turn the valve on. Then about 1 minute later, it no longer responds.

Could these be signal / battery issues? Right now I'm getting battery = "?" and LQI = 102.

forest cobalt
coarse forge
#

It shows as an end device. However I have installed my Zigbee coordinator (SLZB-06) with direct line of sight about 3m away from the irrigation valve (i.e. outside)

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I've just changed batteries for freshly charged ones, reinstalled... I wonder if the device itself is a bit rubbish? Lots of others seem to have success with it. Definitely need something reliable if it involves turning a water supply on and off!

forest cobalt
#

That’s probably why you are having the issues you are.

coarse forge
#

Sorry if I'm being dim, but how exactly would I achieve that? Also why does it only seem to affect that one device? (I have 5 devices in total connected to Zigbee2MQTT attached to this coordinator)

forest cobalt
coarse forge
#

Will the valve then automatically connect through that device, or would I need to configure it to do so?

forest cobalt
#

It might. Zigbee will usually update the route to what the mesh thinks is best. That often works, but some brands like Sonoff, Tuya and Aqara (at least the older devices) don’t always do that. So, what you could do is just re-pair it to the closest routing device.

thick plover
#

is it possible to update a zStack Adapter (Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! (zzh!)) to support Thread/Matter?

woeful elk
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Is there a trick to properly interpreting Open / Closed status for zigbee door sensors?

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atm, I'm looking at a binary_sensor.garage_door_opening

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events seem to trigger, but that always says Closed

austere patio
#

What sensor is it?

woeful elk
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IEEE: a4:c1:38:77:3a:a2:55:16
Nwk: 0xc7d4
Device Type: EndDevice
LQI: 72
RSSI: Unknown
Last seen: 2024-08-12T09:37:09
Power source: Battery or Unknown
Quirk: zhaquirks.zbeacon.doorsensor.DS01DoorSensor
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I'm trying to figure out where the translations or whatever its called lives..... Having a mental blank.

austere patio
#

Looks like a pretty boring sensor. Can you enable ZHA debug logging, open/close the door a few times, and disable logging to download a log?

rapid dawnBOT
#

@woeful elk I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
austere patio
#

The debug log would show what exactly the device is sending. The diagnostics information/signature is more for writing a quirk

woeful elk
#

yeah - I'll have to do it when I get home.

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Is the ZHA debug the same as listening to the zha events?

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I have a vague memory on doing this when I write the quirk for my doorbell switch thing

austere patio
#

It's for the whole integration, so it'll contain events and more

woeful elk
#

but that memory has been purged with more recent events ahhahahaha

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I'm finding that the older I get, the more my memory becomes a FIFO stack hahahaha

knotty niche
#

folks, can anyone recommend some good zigbee USB switches/adapters for HA?

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everything seems to be tuya 😬 ... hopefully i can work around this 🤞

sour shadow
trail aspen
#

Hello, do aqara e1 button has a button release event? I don't seems to see one, or am I missing something? ZHA

glossy lintel
#

Anyone here has experience in binding IKEA tradfri E1743 to Z2M groups ?

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for some reason, after binding it, it do not act on my group at all...

ocean cloak
#

My FP1s have been reporting as Unknown a lot recently. I'm on Z2m. I think there was an update recently, possible cause?

sour shadow
#

No such problem here

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Firmware: 54

forest idol
#

Are there any zigbee radio's I don't have to connect through USB but that I can connect to from ZHA or Z2M over the network?

austere patio
forest idol
#

I have home server hardware running already. The Yellow is yet another device. the CM4 module on it is probably also slower than the ryzen 5 5600G cpu the home server is running. So I was thinking I'd run an extra docker container on the server instead of the Yellow. But still need zigbee.

graceful elm
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I'm looking at building a main panel energy monitor, so looking at 35 data points that would need to update regularly through the Zigbee network. Do we have a way to measure current network utilization? I don't want to build it and find out that the network isn't capable.

sour shadow
forest idol
molten linden
#

🤔

sour shadow
ocean cloak
forest cobalt
forest idol
#

Alrighty, tube it will be 👍

trail aspen
forest idol
#

@molten linden any experience in shipping your stuff to Europe?

molten linden
#

I ship to Europe all the time. It is DDU though so there will be additional costs for you.

fiery depot
#

The last device I need to migrate over to HA are my 2 Philips Hue Lightstrip plus devices. It seems as though I should move "just" the lightstrips and not the philips hub. If you're using these devices, can you 1: confirm you have full control w/o the hub and 2: do you recall how to re-pair those lights to a new zigbee controller? Thanks in advance...

forest cobalt
trail aspen
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
trail aspen
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then no, I tried to listen to zha_event already, nothing comes up when I release the button

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is there any known one that gives release event?

austere patio
obsidian pasture
#

hi, i am having trouble setting up zigbee2mqtt it keep having this error TypeError: Cannot create property 'port' on string 'port:/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Nabu_Casa_SkyConnect_v1.0_d86459b29974ed11bcb011cb5720eef3-if00-port0'
at /app/lib/util/settings.ts:445:45
at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
at iterate (/app/lib/util/settings.ts:417:26)
at /app/lib/util/settings.ts:456:21
at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
at iterate (/app/lib/util/settings.ts:417:26)
at /app/lib/util/settings.ts:456:21
at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
at iterate (/app/lib/util/settings.ts:417:26)
at applyEnvironmentVariables (/app/lib/util/settings.ts:461:5)

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i have set the port as above but i dont know where i am going wrong

sour shadow
#

Are you setting up the add-on?

obsidian pasture
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yes

austere patio
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'port:/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Nabu_Casa_SkyConnect_v1.0_d86459b29974ed11bcb011cb5720eef3-if00-port0' doesn't look right

rapid dawnBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

sour shadow
#

Please share what you're doing

obsidian pasture
#

or should it be this /dev/ttyUSB0

sour shadow
#

No, /dev/serial/by-id/ is good

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But port:/ isn't

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port: /... maybe

obsidian pasture
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it will only let me save it with a space

fierce parcel
#

anyone know good zigbee device to measure the consumption of a dryer. I can see a lot of device cheap or expensive but I don’t want my house to burn ^^’

unreal flicker
# fierce parcel anyone know good zigbee device to measure the consumption of a dryer. I can see ...

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005005881727281.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.3e968xdS8xdS5b&algo_pvid=13cc6d23-952e-449c-bdec-3cbd0bb050f9&algo_exp_id=13cc6d23-952e-449c-bdec-3cbd0bb050f9-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis!CAD!72.14!29.62!!!368.27!151.21!%402101e62517234934161492123e535e!12000034688702637!sea!CA!0!ABX&curPageLogUid=XkmdNx7sBOaX&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

ive never used it, but this looks reasonably safe, if installed by a professional

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although, i dont see voltage measuring on that
so it will be lacking power factor, and wattage will be a blind guess assuming 240v

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correction, i think it only measures 1 phase?

#

something like that could also be used as a whole-house moniter

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ive only got 100A service here, so 80A measurement limit wouldnt be that bad

fierce parcel
#

It’s safe but a bit complicated to install

unreal flicker
#

yeah, thats why i say that a professional should install it

fierce parcel
#

is there safe smart people plug?
brand like nous, blitzwolf,..

sour shadow
#

What country?

fierce parcel
#

belgium

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france plug are the same

sweet imp
#

Hi Everyone, it's me again,
I have these Sonoff motion sensors and switches and Tuya smart socket switch:
SNZB-03
SNZb Mini L2
Tuya Zigbee Smart Socket UK Plug
I found that sometimes the switch fails to turn the light off.
I changed the batteries on the Sonoff motion sensors but it is still happening so not sure if this is really the root cause but the switch.
If I cannot fix it in any way can I at least add something to the automation to repeat the command in case it didn't pick up the signal?

austere patio
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Is your motion sensor not detecting motion? Or is the light not turning off?

sweet imp
#

it does turn it on but then fails to turn it off and the light stays on over night
I know I can be fooled by the automation but if it's on in the morning I know something isn't right

austere patio
#

What coordinator are you using? Is it near any USB 3.0 devices, SSDs, or WiFi routers?

sweet imp
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it's the Sonoff dongle ZBDOngle-E
I have a long USB cable to keep the dongle away from the RPi and WiFi router, over 2 meters

austere patio
#

What Zigbee integration are you using?

sweet imp
#

Zigbee2MQTT

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by the way this problem does not occur all the time, it happens rarely

austere patio
#

Hmm. Do you have a 2.4Ghz WiFi network on channel 1 or 2?

sweet imp
#

my Wifi is set to 802.1b/g/n mixed
20MHz
Channel set to Manual to 6
5GHz Wifi is disabled

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unless there is some interference coming from neighbour(s)

austere patio
#

If you want to run a scan of your 2.4GHz spectrum, have the Advanced SSH addon installed (or some other environment with Python), and don't mind unplugging your stick for 20 minutes, that may show what's happening

sweet imp
#

how about SmartMeter?

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it is about 2m away from the dongle

austere patio
#

Like for electricity consumption tracking?

sweet imp
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yes, but it communicates with the supplier over mobile network I believe

austere patio
#

It probably doesn't help but they're usually on the other side of a thick wall

sweet imp
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this is in UK, these are indoors smart meters

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I know what you mean in US/Canada? you have these outdoors round ones

austere patio
#

Interesting 🤔

carmine hamlet
#

My electric meter communicates with an Eagle Rainforest box over the Zigbee smart energy profile and I had to unplug the Eagle box to get some of my Inovelli switches to pair. It's even on a different Zigbee channel

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Only for switches that were relatively close to both the meter and the Eagle

austere patio
#

Every single smart meter in my vicinity is permanently permitting joins so any Aqara device will join the first smart meter it finds on channel 11 and be happy. Unless I put it in a metal pot with the coordinator 😄

trail aspen
austere patio
#

Right, but why? Is a button specifically what you need or would a door sensor be better?

trail aspen
forest cobalt
vocal barn
#

anyone ever migrate from a HA Yellow zigbee to a usb dongle? can it be done without repairing everything?

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i have a efr32mg21 dongle

austere patio
vocal barn
#

zigbee2mqtt i have a sonoff -E dongle but happy to buy a different one if it will saves the 40 pairs

winged quarry
#

anyone have a good zigbee 120v plug that is also good as a zigbee repeater?

carmine hamlet
#

Third Reality are good

hazy wren
#

Hello, i have a question about Zigbee and the Aqara Zigbee Temperature and Humidity meters. I have added these neatly in Home Assistant, but after a few days some meters fail and no more information is transmitted to HA.

I have linked the Aqara meters via Zigbee Home Automation and a Conbee II USB stick. They are 9 devices of which 5 are now offline. I have also changed the batteries of the Aqara devices before. I have been having issues with this for some time.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this?

sour shadow
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Did you put the stick on a USB extension cable?

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Do you have any Zigbee routers (mains powered devices like smart plugs)?

hazy wren
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No, the USB stick is direct inserted into the PC

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I have no other Zigbee routers, for so far I know. I use A Philips Hue Bridge...

sour shadow
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  1. You need the cable - see the pinned video
  2. You need routers - see the second pin, plus the one on Aqara devices
hazy wren
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@sour shadow thanks for your advise! I gonna try!

abstract garnet
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so I've set up an SLZB-06 as ethernet, and zigbee2mqtt docker container. It's running, and shows that a client is connected and stuff. However, when I put it in pairing mode and try pairing a couple of devices on the front end nothing comes up when these devices are in pairing mode. any ideas~?

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it's running fine from the logs, recognises when it's put into pairing from the home assistant mqtt integration

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info: z2m: Zigbee: allowing new devices to join.

forest cobalt
#

What kind of devices are they? Also, do you have any routing devices (mains-powered devices like switches, plugs, and most bulbs)?

abstract garnet
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actually never mind I just moved the coordinator away from some other devices now it works 😅

abstract garnet
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ok, so the devices are added and have values reported etc in zigbee2mqtt. They are also visible in the devices tab in home assistant, however, here their values are shown as unavalable. ideas?

forest cobalt
abstract garnet
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I have one SLZB06, and I have paired only a zigbee temp humidity sensor and an ikea plug

forest cobalt
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Did you add the plug first? Typically, you add your routing devices first, then your sensors after that. Also, make sure that both Z2M and MQTT are both running. If you're getting unavailable, then most likely MQTT died.

abstract garnet
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I guess I cant post pictures in here

rapid dawnBOT
#

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abstract garnet
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So I have actual readouts on the sensor graph for the temphumidity one, it just also says unavailble

forest cobalt
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Ah, so the entity changed.

abstract garnet
#

which seems to suggest to me that the mqtt and stuff is actually working

forest cobalt
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Look in the MQTT integration and make sure that you are using the right entity.

abstract garnet
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where can I see if it's changed? I did change the entity name in zigbee2mqtt as the first thing I did when I paired them,

forest cobalt
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If you click on the device, you will see it's entities in the center column.

abstract garnet
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it reads out the values correctly but also shows unavailable, and when I try to put it on a card on the dashboard it also says unavailable

forest cobalt
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It says unavailable in the device/entities view or you see values there?

abstract garnet
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both, that image is from the device entities view

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maybe it has something to do with that it only just pushes a value every now and then rather than continously? 🤷‍♀️

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https://imgur.com/a/Biouhap

and here I turned on the switch from zigbee2mqtt, and you can see in the history to the right that this happend so HA can clearly see it, but the device still shows unavailable

forest cobalt
#

If you click on the actual entity and then click on the ⚙️ and look at the entity id, what does it show?

abstract garnet
#

it shows the same. HOWEVER, this it not listed in the states tab in developer tools, it is absent

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i've restarted HA a few times. I haven't added them in yaml, just figured the front end would do this ok, is that something I'm supposed to do?

forest cobalt
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Hmmm, no. You're doing it properly.

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That's odd.

abstract garnet
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Weird, I came back a few hours later and it's all working now, did nothing 🤷‍♀️

vale bolt
#

for z2mqtt - Sonoff ZBdongle-E

austere patio
vale bolt
#

out of curiosity,
what's this ot-rcp firmware for?

austere patio
#

OpenThread RCP

vale bolt
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alright thanks!

thick plover
#

https://logs.notifiarr.com/?3b351026da8fb1fc#G9iRNEJdJJRUneyrGQtDMipLzAvVxcseoUuts34RDGfR

Getting this error when booting z2m after rebooting my server.

ls /dev/serial/by-id/ returns usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0@ - not sure why a @ is on the end, but i tried with it in the docker config and it failed to start the container based on that. if I remove the @ it will start but then stops with the error in the logs i posted. any ideas how to resolve this?

sour shadow
#

What stick?

thick plover
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Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! (zzh!)

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starting to think a Network adapater would be more consistent

thick plover
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Got it working again by copy pasting usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0 into the docker config again, but I suspect it will stop working again after another reboot (2nd time this has happened in last 24 hrs)

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running on Unraid if that makes a difference

ashen bluff
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Please share the full output of ls -l /dev/serial/by-id. Nevermind, /dev/zigbee is okay.

thick plover
# 
root@Odin:~# ls -l /dev/serial/by-id
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Aug 14 17:01 usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB0
thick plover
ashen bluff
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Yeah.

thick plover
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ideally would like to get to the root of the problem, just don't know where to look

ashen bluff
long sparrow
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Hi all, I'm new with home assistant and have some questions about sonoff devices. I have a home assistant green box and a SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus. Some zigbee devices I integrated successfully into HA. Now I want to integrate the sonoff SNZB-02D zigbee temperature and humidity sensor. I activated the pairing mode several times and searched with HA zigbee for new devicses. but no new device could be found. Does anyone have any idea?
Is this the right place to ask this question or is there a better community forum?

sour shadow
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  1. The dongle is on a USB extension cable?
  2. You're using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?
  3. What Zigbee routers do you have?
  4. What distance is that sensor from the coordinator/nearest router?
long sparrow
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  1. the dogle is directly plugged into the HA green box
  2. I don't know wich mode I'm using. in HA I see znp as radio type
  3. I have no zigbee router. Do I need one? I thougt, that the dongle is enough
  4. the sensor is about 3 m from the dongle
ashen bluff
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  1. This might not be that big a problem with the green but a extension is recommended to avoid interference: https://youtu.be/tHqZhNcFEvA
  2. For a proper mesh yes
    I assume you enabled pairing on both devices? I'm asking becazse some devices like a light bulb for example often go into pairing mode automatically.
long sparrow
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  1. ok, now I put the dongle to an extension cable with an additional usb hub. It is still working.
  2. I activated the sensor pairig mode and then started in HA the zigbee interface and started to search for new devices. That was the process I had to do with the other zigbee devices.
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I assume that I'm not using the zigbee2MQTT mode, because CHATGPT told me, that I have to flash my dongle first to use it. And I havent
t flashed it.

ashen bluff
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Z2M is a software. Unless you have heard or seen it before you're probably using HA's ZHA integration.
Generally you want to enable pairing mode on the HA side first, then pair the sensor. Some battery devices you have to wake up periodically.

thick plover
ashen bluff
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Yes. You can put it wherever you can route a network cable. In case of PoE you only need one to provide it with both network and power.
It's also very useful if you have a cluster where multiple different devices can possible make use of it. That was the main reason I bought mine.

thick plover
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Ah nice any recommended models?

ashen bluff
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I recently bought the SLZB-06 and am happy with it.

long sparrow
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I started first the HA zigbee search for new devices and then activated the pairing mode of the device. But it couldn't be found

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Two brand new devices and with both the same procedure and result

thick plover
ashen bluff
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In your case that would also free you from having to pass a device to the container. It's a compromise. I think USB sticks are usually easier as there's fewer things to configure.

chilly parrot
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Unavailable

ashen bluff
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You already posted and deleted that. What's going on?

thick plover
ashen bluff
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Yeah. Something like this

serial:
  port: 'tcp://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:6638'
thick plover
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Thanks!

graceful elm
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Does ZHA support the Barrier Control cluster? I use a standard switch cluster for controlling garage doors now, but this would allow for showing direction and position.

unreal flicker
austere patio
cunning geode
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Hey folks 👋
My HA system had to force-restart this morning, and since then my zigbee devices seem to no longer be operational. The ZHA integration initializes just fine, and I tried restarting HA as well as the integration itself.

When I go to the network vizualization, I do see my devices connected they way I would expect, and the only error I can find in the logs that gives a hint of zigbee/ZHA is:

Logger: homeassistant.helpers.dispatcher
Source: helpers/dispatcher.py:87
First occurred: 17:33:25 (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 17:33:25

Unable to remove unknown dispatcher <bound method GroupProbe._reprobe_group of <homeassistant.components.zha.core.discovery.GroupProbe object at 0x7f2450c16480>>

Not sure how to proceed with debugging this or what could be wrong at this point. Any ideas?

austere patio
cunning geode
austere patio
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You're using Multi-PAN. Do you have any Thread devices?

cunning geode
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I used to, not anymore, but plan to again in the future

austere patio
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I would migrate off of multi-PAN back to ZigBee firmware. You can disable it in the hardware menu.

cunning geode
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Seems like a bit of a shot in the dark though, no?
May definitely be worth a shot, but do you have a suspicion on the root cause?

austere patio
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multi-PAN doesn't provide diagnostics for signal strength or interference, nor is it maintained anymore. If you aren't using Thread devices right now you definitely should migrate to ZigBee firmware. If it fixes things, that's good. If not, it's easier to diagnose from that point

cunning geode
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Gotcha, that's clear

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I think I can only remove the radio in the hardware menu, not turn it to zigbee only. Let me do some googling 😄

austere patio
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There should be an option to migrate back

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Should be similar if you're using the SkyConnect

cunning geode
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Oh, it's the same documentation xD

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Hmmm, seems like HA crashed after trying to re-configure for Zigbee only... Let me fix that first...

austere patio
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Ooo. Do you happen to have a debug log?

cunning geode
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I think it may have just restarted and I thought it was crashing because the UI became inaccessible... Good new though, it self-healed and the zigbee devices seem to be back!
Now going through and testing them to see if they're all back

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Yeah, everything magically works again 😄

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Thanks for the help!

austere patio
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Multi-PAN strikes again!

cunning geode
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No idea what got corrupted...

upbeat goblet
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Do the zigbee lines in the network diagram ever turn green or is it just white red and yellow?

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i have devices feet from one another and it's never been better than yellow

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heh

cunning geode
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Yeah, anything with an LQI above 192 is green. Could be that you have some interference

austere patio
upbeat goblet
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yea just curious, just having really odd issues lately, all devices are sending updates back to HA fine but trying to send commands to devices either takes ages or doesnt work at all

austere patio
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If you can receive but can't send, that's most likely RF interference near the coordinator itself

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Is your coordinator near any USB 3.0 devices? SSDs? 2.4GHz WiFi routers?

upbeat goblet
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nah, it's on a usb extension cable mounted up a wall

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still playing around with stuff, was just curious about the lines, i've rarely looked at the diagram but noticed i've never seen them green

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many hardwired repeater devices 2-4' away from one another and still never green

austere patio
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Any new neighbors or mesh systems?

fading lark
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Hi there,

I added an sonoff zigbee stick to my HA installation some weeks ago. I am using zigbee2mqtt and not zha. Every time when I reboot HA for update and so on the zha integration reappears. Any idea why that happens?

upbeat goblet
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yea not sure, i'll poke back in here if i dont discover anything

austere patio
fading lark
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I had it installed in the beginning but removed it to use zigbee2mqtt

austere patio
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Can you open an issue in the Home Assistant issue tracker?

fading lark
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sure I can

fading lark
torpid cloud
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Noob question; if I have the Sonoff Zigbee dongle, and I add some zigbee device like a hue bulb, does it automatically use Zigbee2MQTT? How would I switch to it? Or what is different between my zigbee dongle talking directly versus mqtt?

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In another channel I was told it’s the difference of ZHA vs Z2MQTT

tropic depot
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Mostly preference

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One is embedded in HA on isn’t

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(Currently)

forest cobalt
tropic depot
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No

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We’re python 😂

trail aspen
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I'm having the same issue as this post here the only difference is that the ikea remote randomly pairs to the main switch of my air conditioner, which cuts off power to my air conditioner. Since it paired to the air conditioner main power switch, I sometimes unknowingly cut power to the air conditioner unexpectedly, I.e. while it is still on. Just cutting off the power to the air conditioner is bad for it, is there any way to completely fix this issue? Or like someone in the post said, I have to switch to another remote?

low jacinth
sour shadow
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Flash the latest 7.4 firmware

low jacinth
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Hey Tinker! SInce we last spoke, got myself a mini server, proxmox on it

storm palm
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My Zigbee is down for days, I dont understand this error: Zigbee2MQTT The add-on seems to not be ready, it might still be starting. Do you want to try again?

sour shadow
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Check the log?

storm palm
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Looks like it is a bug in the code

rapid dawnBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

storm palm
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/app/node_modules/js-yaml/lib/loader.js:183

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return new YAMLException(message, mark);

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^

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YAMLException: bad indentation of a mapping entry (3:10)

sour shadow
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Please share the whole thing

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Also check your YAML 😉

storm palm
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The bot is going to yell at me, and I have not made any change in a long time. I got an alert over the weekend that the temp sensor is down

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But here goes

rapid dawnBOT
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@storm palm I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
sour shadow
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The bot wouldn't yell if you paid attention and used a code share site, as already requested

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And hey, the error even shows the problem with your YAML party

storm palm
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I dont understand how it suddenly fails

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In any case in this error I don't see where is the config issue

sour shadow
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 2 | availability: true
 3 |   passive:
--------------^
 4 |     timeout: 30
carmine hamlet
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It's pointing right at it

storm palm
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In /app/node_modules/js-yaml/lib/loader.js:183?

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I don't edit that file

sour shadow
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At a guess you misunderstood the docs

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Your Z2M configuration.yaml

storm palm
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All the paths in the error are /app/lib/ or /app/node_modules/

sour shadow
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When you set the availability you messed up the YAML

storm palm
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What is the proper syntax?

homeassistant: true
availability: true
passive:
timeout: 30

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This file was not edited since Jul 16 20:48 BTW, and it failed while I was away

sour shadow
storm palm
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My indentation is totally different I use 2 spaces and the docs use 4 spaces

sour shadow
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You crossed the two types

storm palm
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For e.g. I have
mqtt:
[2 spaces]server: mqtt://core-mosquitto:1883

sour shadow
# 
availability: true
``` is for _turn on and use defaults_
storm palm
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Do I need to double up on the number of spaces in the YAML

sour shadow
# 
availability:
  active:
    timeout: 10
  passive:
    timeout: 1500
``` is for _use my settings_
# 
availability: true
  passive:
    timeout: 30
``` isn't valid
storm palm
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So i need to add active timeout even if I dont use active?

sour shadow
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Yes

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Or maybe no

storm palm
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Is the timeout required too or can I just skip that?

sour shadow
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Just remove true

storm palm
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Intresting, was there a recent code change that would have introduced this bug?

sour shadow
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No

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That's never been valid YAML

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Since you added that change it's just been waiting on a restart to fail on you

carmine hamlet
low jacinth
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@sour shadow A quickie, should I be looking at the firmware from silabs or xsp1989?

sour shadow
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Check the top pin

storm palm
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That's possible. YAML is evil.

low jacinth
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Always wondered what that pin did!

noble gulch
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Quick Zigbee question.... is it best practice to allow battery Zigbee devices to connect to a Zigbee router (like a powered downlight device) or should all battery devices connect directly to the coordinator?

forest cobalt
noble gulch
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Ta... been reading some articles where they say it's best for the devices to connect to the coordinator so I should be turning off the downlights for 15mins so all devices connect to the coordinator and then power on the downlights after

forest cobalt
noble gulch
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haha so true

torpid cloud
spare cave
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Out of nowhere my hue lights are super unresponsive

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Any tips on how to debug this?

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Tried reboot. Tried making sure WiFi is on an appropriate channel

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I'll turn them all on and one will take like 5 seconds longer to respond

spare cave
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I changed the channel now it works

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Think it was my neighbors WiFi lol

winged quarry
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I'm actually surprised by how many people still run 2.4g networks

balmy fossil
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Ive got several Zigbee repeaters made with ZBDongle-E, ZBDongle-P and SLZB-06, all flashed with the latest router firmware. Unfortunately those repeaters tend to regularly disconnect from Zigbee and need re-pairing, whats very inconvinient, especially with ZBDongles which need to be reflashed.

warning 2024-08-15 10:37:40z2m: Failed to ping 'Baby room repeater' (attempt 1/1, ZCL command 0xe0798dfffea68d5d/1 genBasic.read(["zclVersion"], {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":true,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Data request failed with error: 'No network route' (205))) warning 2024-08-15 10:38:10z2m: Failed to ping 'Shed repeater' (attempt 1/1, ZCL command 0x00124b00258daec7/8 genBasic.read(["zclVersion"], {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":true,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Data request failed with error: 'No network route' (205)))

For a while my Zigbee mesh was very unstable and i thought that disconnecting repeaters are just one of the symptoms, but since the latest firmware update to my coordinator (20240710), everything else has became rock stable, only those repeaters are constantly disconnecting.

Is that happening to everyone using those devices as routers or am i the only one?

spare cave
winged quarry
balmy fossil
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Sonoff ZBDongle-Es and Ps and SMLight SLZB-06s

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all have opensource firmware and all have same problem

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im wondering if that may be for example due to old firmware (TI router firmware was not updated since 2022)

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and i am suspecting this because i had similar issues with those very same devices freezing when working as coordinator until the latest coordinator firmware update (20240710)

spare cave
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Damn all my neigbors are on channel 11 for some reason lol

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The 2.4ghz space is super congested here too

fading briar
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If I'm removing a dying ZB bulb (with ZHA) is there anything special I should do to remove it so it can later be replaced, or do I just go to the entity, hit the 3-dot menu and delete it?

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replaced with a new bulb with the same name, that is.

sour shadow
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It'll be a different device, but as long as you don't use device triggers/conditions/actions just ensure the entities have the same ids and you'll be fine

fading briar
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Sounds good. Thanks for the confirmation.

grim igloo
fading briar
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Yes, thanks for the clarification.

fading briar
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After deleting the bulb via the 3-dot menu, it is gone from the visualization, so I presume it's gone from the mesh and all other devices have stopped looking for it.

austere patio
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Was the bulb powered on?

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Devices can only be asked to leave, they can't really be removed. If you remove a powered off device, for example, it'll re-appear when you turn it back on.

fading briar
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The bulb had power (it was installed in the fixture), but I'd turned it off via its settings switch. It was also part of a ZB group, but doesn't exist in the group anymore either.

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Yes, the fixutre had power, the other 3 bulbs in it remain on.

grim igloo
graceful elm
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Is report attributes the write packet to send to update home assistant on the current color state of a color-controlled light?

austere patio
graceful elm
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I'm sending the update and it's parsing correctly 2024-08-15 15:09:07.330 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x3E49:1:0x0300] Received command 0x0A (TSN 19): Report_Attributes(attribute_reports=[Attribute(attrid=0x0003, value=TypeValue(type=uint16_t, value=21364)), Attribute(attrid=0x0004, value=TypeValue(type=uint16_t, value=21823))]) 2024-08-15 15:09:07.330 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x3E49:1:0x0300] Attribute report received: current_x=21364, current_y=21823

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But the UI isn't updating with the new state

austere patio
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That looks right. What color mode is your light using?

graceful elm
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x, y

austere patio
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So the Color.color_capabilities attribute is 8?

graceful elm
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Dang, nope, I didn't implement that

austere patio
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Hmm, it looks like it falls back to XY. I'll have to look through the light code again, we may not actually look at these attribute reports 🤔

wraith hill
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Hey folks! I´m using the Zigbee Tuya Water Quality Monitor and I´m trying to have it integrated to Home Assistant via Local Tuya. Unfortunately the device doesn´t show up when I´m trying to add it - did someone manage to integrate it?

graceful elm
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It is mandatory, but it does fall back to sending x, y

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Looks like I have 4 mandatory attr, I'll try to implement and see if it changes

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assuming I can find enough SRAM to do so

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this arduino is at the limit

austere patio
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Out of curiosity, what color is your light reporting?

graceful elm
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Let me guess, since I don't respond affirmitve to the reporting request, it doesn't poll the color state?

graceful elm
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HA just reports it as the last set color, unless you set a new one

limpid chasm
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is it possible to easily switch from Z2M to ZHA without re-pairing everything and if so, is there a tutorial for this?

sour shadow
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Keep in mind that even if you do, every device and entity will change

limpid chasm
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yeah im aware, i will create a snapshot of the vm before i do

austere patio
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You can skip the "Migrate ZHA network" part

limpid chasm
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im just running into some challenges with z2m and im just going to see if ZHA is better in this regard :P

graceful elm
austere patio
graceful elm
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I have is set so if you get out of bed it sets the under bed lighting to a low blue color, but then during the day it follows the other lights, it was more just a rabbit hole that had me curious

austere patio
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Just offload that logic to HA and it'll work as you expect 😄

graceful elm
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What, logic in HA! Craziness!

austere patio
graceful elm
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Should I see attributes like engineering units polled when it's joined?

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It will reflect the correct units if I manually query the value, but I'm not seeing it request it on join

austere patio
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I don't think those are expected to ever change

limpid chasm
# austere patio What challenges?

Basically i loathe that my lights have to transition from their last color temperature(state) when i turn them on. i tried the execute_if_off solution which somewhat works but requires at least a 600ms delay between setting a new color temperature and turning the light on otherwise the separate actions seem to be mixed up for some reason even though the mode is set to single.

graceful elm
limpid chasm
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i also tried turning the light on at the lowest brightness first without a transition to set the temp and then transition to the desired brightness but this also requires a delay for it to work properly.

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i just keep fiddling with this situation and i am not getting anywhere near a solution that im satisfied with so while searching i stumbled upon some stuff about ZHA having code to deal with this issue which im interested in trying because im all out of ideas :)

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@austere patio I'm reading that step by step guide for migrating but there's a step about migrating to a new radio, i assume i need to skip these steps too?

austere patio
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You can stop reading at "Migrate ZHA network"

limpid chasm
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ah, okay, cool!

austere patio
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This sets up ZHA to use your Z2M radio with the same network settings. You won't have any devices on the network, however, until they decide to send something and ZHA tries to talk to the device.

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If you just want to test a light, turn it off at the switch and turn it back on, it'll pop up. Make sure to permit joins first.

limpid chasm
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okay, i appreciate the explanation

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As for my challenges, would you have any ideas or is this just how it is?

austere patio
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Lights are hard 😄. It depends on what your bulbs themselves support.

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If they can receive commands in the "off" state, I think ZHA does this. If not, turning the light on to a low brightness and quickly changing the color is the only way, unfortunately. ZHA does this for you (I think?).

limpid chasm
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All my bulbs are Philips, some old and some new, the old ones don't even support the execute_if_off setting but i've already replaced those.

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yeah, those are the solutions i tried with z2m, the problem is just that this requires 2 actions and for some reason it would mix them up if the delay wasn't high enough, which is frustrating :P

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Regardless, i’m gonna give it a shot tomorrow, thanks again!

mellow geode
# limpid chasm i also tried turning the light on at the lowest brightness first without a trans...

There is a config option on the ZHA integration page that you can enable to automatically do this.
It'll turn on the light dim first -> set the correct color dim -> transition to desired brightness smoothly. That's the workaround the Hue Bridge uses/used(?) too. It can cause some issues depending on network latency though. (It also sends one more message for every light turn-on.)

If your lights support ExecuteIfOff, you can set the options attribute on the Color cluster to 1 using the "Manage Zigbee device" -> "Clusters" UI. This will achieve a perfectly smooth color transition from off. The ZHA config option does NOT have to be enabled for this.

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This behavior should ideally be simplified and optimized in the future. At least the new Hue lights all behave correctly with ExecuteIfOff. Some Tuya lights just break 😄

pseudo forum
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Hi. I have a zigbee device that I just added to my network. It works. On the network map visualization it doesn't have a connection to anything else. Is that an indication of a problem? It's a set of 3 buttons and they work.

austere patio
digital ledge
#

I'm looking for a cheap zigbee light switch that works with ZHA to play around with. Any suggetstions/links? (aliexpress is nice and cheap and has lots of free shipping to my country, links to product there would be welcome.)

faint sky
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Any of you folks champs w/ Zigbee devices? Having a hell of a time keeping things connceted. I've reconnect each of these at least 3x total and they continue to drop.

unreal flicker
north scroll
north scroll
# faint sky Any of you folks champs w/ Zigbee devices? Having a hell of a time keeping thing...

Buy none owned devices (*1) and test the best. I buy almost all brands to test them hard for a week to see if they hold up, then I select the best one(s) to use around the house. I rarely have problems (1 every 6 months).

*1-Devices that are mainly “Tuya” are the most reliable in terms of stability or make them yourself in arduino but it takes a long time (There are some good brands but I prefer devices 100% functional without internet).

cyan harness
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Hi, I'm using Z2M with HAOS on RPi3B+. But for several months now, I encounter system instabilities and it crashes randomly. Logs are often the same but doesn't know what I could try :
https://hastebin.com/share/netinifica.rust

jovial aspen
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Probably consider upgrading your hardware. A 3B+ would be considered below minimum specification.

sour shadow
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I'd start with a powered USB hub for everything USB connected as it's probably a power problem

sour shadow
#

I asked this in matter but actually I

fierce pulsar
# faint sky Any of you folks champs w/ Zigbee devices? Having a hell of a time keeping thing...

I'm hardly an expert, but I had a temperature sensor in the garage which initially dropped out after a couple of days, presumably due to a weak signal. Solved it by plugging a zigbee socket Aurora AOne in the bedroom wall nearest the garage to act as a repeater. It has been working for several months since. But probably any mains or USB powered zigbee device in that location would have done the job.

cyan harness
sour shadow
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You'd have to re-install

#

The HAOS images are model specific

cyan harness
sour shadow
#

Yes

#

If you're worried use a new SD card (or better, an SSD)

cyan harness
sour shadow
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Yes, if you're worried that your backups won't work

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But also, SD cards are terrible

#

If you're moving to new hardware move to SSDs

cyan harness
rapid dawnBOT
#

When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
north scroll
jolly belfry
#

Are the any recommended resources for writing zha quirks? How to correctly translate the zha-provided signature to a quirks signature etc. Or is the recommendation "read on the zigpy github and try until you succeed"?

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I want to make a very small modification that adds a second temperature reading on a floor heating thermostat. The thermostat exposes two temperatures (room and floor) but zha only reads the room sensor.

quick lark
#

Ok seriously is there anyway to stop the constant error pop ups on the zigbee2mqtt dashboard? There are so many some times I can't even click on anything on mobile because they take up so much screen https://imgur.com/a/xoliLbe

sour shadow
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Fix the health of the mesh/remove the problem devices

quick lark
quick lark
lime locust
#

Euhm i put 4 lightbulbs in a z2m group , but the group only shows 2 , and the missing group bulbs also no longer visible in devices ?

#

They do switch when toggling the group in HA ?

faint sky
limpid chasm
limpid chasm
austere patio
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It'll be in the dropdown but the write will fail

limpid chasm
#

Thank you too @austere patio :)

#

I successfully migrated from Z2M to ZHA

#

I did get an error because the coordinator backup did not match but that was because of me updating the coordinator firmware.

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just going arond the house identifying everything now ^^

austere patio
#

And which coordinator are you using?

fossil loom
#

Hi
I have a Zigbee Vibration device, I set up an automation that if I knock on a specific door it will skip a song on Spotify, which works perfectly.
However, it takes this vibration device around 20~ seconds to reset its state, and if I want to skip a song right after skipping it already, it won't let me.
How can I change the time it reset his state to ~2 seconds instead of the default time set there?

Thanks for helping.

limpid chasm
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there were several things that mismatched with the last backup, i created another snapshot and chose keep existing settings, which, luckily, was the right choice.

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I am now attempting to re-pair my aqara P1 (motion sensor) which is being a major pain in the behind, does anyone have tips on getting it paired?

vapid oak
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Hello hello, what is the recommended Zigbee stick thats also easy to find within The Netherlands?

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I am trying to see what y'all recommend (I am running HA on HaOS on Proxmox) and I am trying to potentially replace my Philips Hue bridge with a Zigbee stick as well as environmental sensors

forest cobalt
fierce pulsar
dense gale
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I don't know where to ask exactly, so I'll start here.
I'm trying to migrate my self installed HA Core installation on Raspbian to a HA OS installation. The new installation will be inside a VM in VirtualBox.
My issue lies in the deconz addon: I could easily create a backup in Phoscon on my old installation and restore it in the new installation. I also passed the Conbee II through to the VM as a USB device. However deconz tries to connect to the device, but never succeeds. When I install deconz on the host Windows system and restore my backup, deconz connects right away to the Conbee II and I can control my lights.
Is there anything I may have overlooked while setting this up?
Thanks in advance for any advice!

limpid chasm
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are there some magic words to re-pair an aqara motion P1 sensor to my zigbee network? it didn't automatically join after migrating which is fine but anything i can find about pairing it, nothing happens. it flashes blue for a second or two and thats it.

forest cobalt
limpid chasm
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Will try, thanks

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held the reset button for 5s, it starts shortly blinking blue - i press reset shortly every second after that while holding it next to my coordinator and while ZHA is searching for devices. no dice.

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Right, pulled the battery. retried, no dice.

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grabbed the aqara door sensor which needed re-pairing as well, worked instantly.

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im going to give up on this p1 sensor for now, luckily its my only one.

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I'm wondering about best practices for grouping lights, i use adaptive lighting and i remember someone telling me that you should group all your lights to reduce zigbee traffic?

ocean cloak
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I have some FP1s that have been reporting unknown instead of away occasionally for the past week or two. Any idea what's going on? I think it may have started since a Z2M update but not entirely sure

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
ocean cloak
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Also yeah I'll check those logs

limpid chasm
ocean cloak
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Also these devices have been buggy for a while, marking as away while I'm in the room. I have an automation to toggle a plug they're connected to

limpid chasm
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Something like this for example: Group all ground floor lights with ZHA and group individual fixtures with a helper for individual control.

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
ocean cloak
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Yeah different rooms

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Maybe it's also just related to the rolled back firmware

limpid chasm
# forest cobalt Grouping in ZHA. HA groups don’t work the same way.

Okay so i have 2 adaptive lighting groups, one for downstairs and one for upstairs, i will give all lights on both floors their individual ZHA group. Fixtures with multiple lights which i want to control as a whole will get helpers to do so. Adaptive lighting will adjust the ZHA groups and not the helpers.

forest cobalt
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The only reason I would use HA groups if you have a mixture of Zigbee and other protocol lights. Even then, I would use labels and not groups at all.

limpid chasm
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Ah, didnt think about it that way, thanks :)

fossil loom
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Zigbee vibration - How can I change the time it reset his state to no movement?
It usually takes him about 15-20 seconds to reset.

low jacinth
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@sour shadow Upgraded my sonoff firmware dongle, thanks for your help mate

limpid chasm
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
fossil loom
forest cobalt
fossil loom
limpid chasm
tropic depot
forest cobalt
tropic depot
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Whoops replied to the wrong message

tropic depot
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
limpid chasm
fossil loom
tropic depot
forest cobalt
tropic depot
fossil loom
forest cobalt
limpid chasm
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I had some really odd behaviour though :P

Kitchen Lights group triggers all groups when turned on, turns nothing off

Ground floor group triggers all groups when turned on, leaves bathroom group on when turned off but does turn all other groups off.

Passage group triggers Bathroom group when turned on, turns nothing off.

Living Room Lights group triggers all groups when turned on, turns nothing off

limpid chasm
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I spoke too soon, there is still something going on..

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Now i have the issue that turning on an individual light will turn everything on

tropic depot
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How are you turning it on

grim igloo
tropic depot
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Wondering if it’s with a remote

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If so, try from HA and tell me if the behavior is the same

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@limpid chasm ^^

limpid chasm
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Yeah, its not with a remote, it is just the light turn on action for a single entity

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I removed all groups and all lights are behaving normally now

limpid chasm
quick hare
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I'm trying to build a ZHA quirk for the new Philips Contact sensor but the Manufacturer Specific Cluster is empty of attributes when interviewing it. Is there a way to discover those or I'm fatally missing comprehension. 😄

tropic depot
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Do you have zha_toolkit installed?

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If so try the scan device service

mellow geode
fossil crystal
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I want to get my antenna out of the way from the area where it can get hit/damanaged from my work on my server rack. Any ideas on USB extension cable + mount of both zigbee/zwave adapters?

wraith valve
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Hi folks, I have some "dumb" electric roller shutters that are controlled via manual switches. Given that these switches merely control a signal to the motors, I have to believe it's possible to retrofit a ZigBee enabled smart switch onto the panel, so I can continue to control the shutters manually, but also send signals via ZigBee to do the same.

Is this possible and if so what kind of hardware am I looking for?

unreal flicker
fossil crystal
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Nice, thanks @unreal flicker . I dont have access to a printer though so I'll need to find a way to buy this maybe?

unreal flicker
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ive heard of some websites that will 3d print on demand

wild mortar
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Pcbway does this.

fossil crystal
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I ended up going with RexRoi, going to get the prints in 2-3 days. Ended up ordering that Sonoff zigbee wall mount and a USB stick wall mount for the zwave stick.

odd mango
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Anyone else had chinese zigbee divices drop from network and be unable to join again? I already had two in a year

limpid chasm
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Never expected switching from Z2M to ZHA would result in so many strange issues.

limpid chasm
limpid chasm
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I gave up trying to troubleshoot this.
Removed the coordinator from ZHA, erased the coordinators nvram for good measure and booted up HA again.
Configured ZHA, it asked if i wanted to restore a backup, i figured if anything is wrong it would be that so i chose new network. After a couple of minutes it finds all the devices without having to re-pair them anyway?
i was prepared to manually pair everything after blasting the nvram and creating a new network.

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strange thing is, none of the devices it found actually work.

tiny timber
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I'm not sure if this is a ZHA issue or a general HA issue, but when adding devices via the ZHA Add Devices thing, if you rename them there then the child entities don't get renamed. To add insult to injury, you can no longer use HA's device rename feature to rename the child entities. Just spent about 1.5 hours renaming 150+ ZHA entities.

limpid chasm
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You're right, it doesn't.. just found out as well

tiny timber
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The way around it is to NOT rename on the "Add Devices" page and instead hit the edit button on the device AFTER it's been added. However, that is incredibly counter-intuitive.

limpid chasm
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Yep, you'd have to identify your devices twice basically

tiny timber
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If you're doing it after each device being added, it should be pretty easy to identify, but it's an additional unnecessary step.

limpid chasm
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im getting more and more regrets switching from Z2M :(

tiny timber
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I just did the same switch (back) today. Trying to move back to as much native as I can. Had some issues with Z2M too.

limpid chasm
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The only issue i had with Z2M was execute_if_off handling which i've read is much better in ZHA.

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little did i know that everything else would cause problems :P

tiny timber
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State updates/queuing of commands was janky for me, especially with light brightness sliders. The whole "wait for the state report before updating the entity" made things not feel smooth.

limpid chasm
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I see, never had that issue as my main control method was homekit

tiny timber
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Anyone know if SML001 have trouble on channel 26? Both of mine have dropped off since changing channels and re-pairing.

limpid chasm
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One bit of extra work is that if you pair 2 identical devices a _2 is added to each of the entity names for the second one. renaming the device and its entities afterwards will leave the _2 as well.

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@tiny timber im on channel 25 right now and i have a SML001 somewhere, i'll see what it does. Not yet at pairing the motion sensors

tiny timber
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I seem to remember them being very tempremental at lower voltages too. Both are around 40% battery.

forest cobalt
limpid chasm
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But so tempting to get

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I've almost been tempted once or twice thinking how bad could it be

forest cobalt
limpid chasm
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Hahah, I'm tempted to get one of those drawers. That Aqara P1 from yesterday might get thrown into it

grim igloo
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It’s either broken or you aren’t pairing it right or your mesh sucks etc

limpid chasm
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@grim igloo Yeah, both cases are quite possible. After many attempts im just not sure what i'm doing wrong.

forest cobalt
limpid chasm
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Yeah, when it worked i only had an issue with illuminance getting stuck on a single value but for motion sensing purposes it worked very well.

grim igloo
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I hold for 5s or whatever til it blinks then I keep pressing so it keeps blinking ever time I push the button and it pairs

limpid chasm
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Thats the thing: i hold it for 5 seconds and it starts a blinking sequence of blue light, but after that every short press of the reset button will not keep the device blinking.

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When i pull the battery and reseat it every short press will show blue light but holding it 5s and then doing the short presses, it does nothing at all.

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@grim igloo any idea what im doing wrong?

grim igloo
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No

forest cobalt
limpid chasm
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okay suddenly it works, first try.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Perhaps it had to do with ZHA using my coordinator backup?

forest cobalt
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lol you have a strange-ish setup, so maybe?

limpid chasm
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lol, now i am curious, whats strange about my setup?

forest cobalt
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Well, strange might not be the right word. But, you have a ton of routing devices and not a lot of end devices (iirc). All your Hue bulbs are routing devices.

grim igloo
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mine is the same

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like 40 out of 50 are routers

forest cobalt
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I might be wrong, but you also did something with your pan/e-pan when you switched from Z2M over to zha?

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Eh, maybe I’m mixing people up. It’s early and my coffee hasn’t hit yet. lol (wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong).

limpid chasm
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No, nothing. I did update my coordinator firmware prior to the switch.

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But Z2M was functioning normally with the updated firmware

forest cobalt
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Ah, ok. My mistake then. Your setup isn’t strange-ish. lol I need to finish my coffee before I type more. hahaha

limpid chasm
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thats okay, i don't blame you with all the people here asking for help

forest cobalt
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SHS can attest to my early morning answers. lol

limpid chasm
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even with coffee that would be a challenge to remember

grim igloo
limpid chasm
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I'll do my best to fall into the good category 😁

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@forest cobalt i'll get some end devices soonish, i procured some humidity/temp sensors which i can convert from BLE to Zigbee. fun little side project

forest cobalt
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Oh, radio swaps?

limpid chasm
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The BLE chips in them can function as Zigbee radios too

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Requires different firmware, which some very smart people have made available

grim igloo
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i wouldnt do that

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iirc they report twice as often over BLE, have bettery battery life, and work fine (i own 4 and use them over BLE)

limpid chasm
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Yeah, i read that too but some tweaking can alleviate that reporting-battery-strain

grim igloo
limpid chasm
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I'll start with just one though, if its bad i can always go back the BLE firmware

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Have plenty shellies in the wall that can function as relays :)

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@forest cobalt @tropic depot going the nuke route seems to have solved the ZHA grouping issue, just finished pairing the last light and created all groups.

brazen path
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I have an issue where zigbee devices on my network seem to randomly go offline. It happens to some more than others. I suspect there's a problem with routing. How can I diagnose why a device went offline? Can I disable multiple hops entirely?

limpid chasm
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@forest cobalt i also found the cause of the issue, it wasn't ZHA.

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It's adaptive lighting.

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🤦‍♂️

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
limpid chasm
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It's so good though.. when it works as it should

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The end result will need some more troubleshooting, it appears that even with ZHA and execute_if_off enabled i still see a color transition.

nimble ferry
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Hey all, I'm having issues with radio migration on HA using ZHA... Maybe someone could help a bit. I want to migrate from conbee II (with firmware> 0x26700700) to SLZB-06M (connected via ethernet, configured as coordinator). I went through the docs, and followed all steps, https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#migrating-to-a-new-zigbee-coordinator-adapter-inside-zha

In theory, migration went fine. What was (a bit strange) is that in the guide it says HA should ask whether IEEE should be copied - I was not asked but IEEE was copied over to SLZB-06M.

Now, devices are not connecting to the new coordinator. What I observed so far

  • for some reason channel in new SLZB-06M is setup as AUTO and set to channel 20, while on conbee it's channel 15 - not sure whether this is an issue and why migration procedure changes it... I tried to manually change channel from 20 to 15 (after radio migration) - no change
  • IEEE is indeed copied, PAN ID and Extended PAN ID is different on both devices, simiarly to radio type (this is obvious - change from deconz to ezsp)
  • it didn't work so I was able to restore HA (full HA) from backup, and it communited in ZHA that "Your zigbee radio's network settings are inconsistent with the most recent network backup." - then it lists changes - channel (20 vs 15), PAN ID, Extended PAN ID and Network key. When I choose "Restore backup (recommended)" all works again using conbee II
  • after first attempt when I changed channel to 15, I thought "OK, I will just repair all devices". It worked fine with first one, but 2nd, 3rd and 4th not - I couldn't pair it with SLZB-06M - I entered pairing mode on the device but device was not detected by ZHA"

I have to admit, I'm lost... I googled, I watched few youtube videos, I went through docs (both HA and SLZB). Most of the guides and youtubers are using Z2M not ZHA...

PS. If that's not the right place to ask for help, let me know...

valid dome