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surreal harbor
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I just started with Zigbee. I ordered a Sonoff Zigbee USB bridge and a few Aqara Door Sitches. I have them all set up, but when I try to add them to my Default Dashboard, I am getting a “No config found” message. Any ideas?

knotty flint
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@austere patio you were right. Things are working much better now with the Zigbee antenna further away from the rest.

rain oxide
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Tried rebooting, the issue persist 😦
Is there anything else I could try?

nova wraith
rain oxide
molten epoch
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I'm currently looking to pick up a zigbee gateway, and it seems to be between the Sonoff dongle-p and dongle-e though I can't really find a firm answer on which of these is the best to get. Seems the E used to be considered experimental but I don't know if thats still the case 12 months later

nova wraith
woeful elk
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So - I just added 2 x router devices (my light switches etc are all endpoints rage) - is there a way to force the network to re-mesh itself? Or so I just find some patience and wait?

rain oxide
nova wraith
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the /dev/ttyx can change when you re-plug the USB or change USB Slot. Ive heared that is sometimes randomly changes, but im not sure. Make sure the device still exists 😄 and maybe consider just passing through /dev/serial/by-id/x, i cannot think of a reason to run HA as a privileged container, but idk. ls /dev/serial/by-id/ and then copy your device name and add it behind the path. eg. /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20234034-if00

rain oxide
lime drift
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All zigbee powered devices should act as repeater. you can have a look at settings->integrations->zha->configure->visualization.
Unfortunately, i have never undestood colors and numbers. Furthermore, it's buggy ( at least using chrome), zoom and or scrolling issues, ... but you have something...

zealous peak
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Hello, I'm having trouble since yesterday with my Zigbee outdoor plug (GreenSun, this one: https://www.amazon.fr/Exterieure-Connectée-Compteur-Compatible-Passerelle/dp/B0CSFTDML3/ref=asc_df_B0CSFTDML3/), that gets me my solar panel production. I have a Rasp Pi 4B with HA and Zigbee2MQTT. I was able to add the plug 2 weeks ago when I bought it but it stopped working randomly 2 days ago (reading was stuck at 67W...). So I removed the plug from Z2MQTT but I cannot for the life of me readd it back.
I looked everywhere, it's not in the blacklist (shouldn't be anyway), but when I plug the plug and it's in pairing mode (blue light flickers) nothing appears in the Z2MQTT interface. I tried everything, restarting both Z2MQTT and HA without any luck.

What could prevent the device from being discovered by Z2MQTT ? I don't have any error and I can't find any logs to help me at least see if the device is detected (but couldn't be paired for some reason).

What could I try ?

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I already have other Zigbee devices that works perfectly fine and were added on the first try when entering pairing mode

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FYI it's still appearing in the MQTT integration but all readings stay at 0 and commands don't work (when switching from ON to OFF the button reswitches almost instantly to ON)

sour shadow
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Sounds like it can't reach the mesh

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I'd start by trying to pair it near the coordinator and see if it joins. If that doesn't work then probably the plug is faulty.

zealous peak
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I tried yesterday at 10cm from my USB coordinator and still nothing 😦 damn I was hoping that wouldn't be the case

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it's so complicated to find a good outdoor smart plug... my last one was a Wifi one from Tuya and it was a PAIN so I thought I'd had better luck with a Zigbee one 🙃

trim latch
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Hi, I have a strange question.
I have a rocker aqara, it's working fine. One of its button, when I use it, turn lights on or off. Fine but... I can't find where this automation is! When I use it and order automations by last trigger, the last automation triggered was 18 minutes ago, nothing new.

A seach in /homeassistant directory on the device's name doesn't return anything.

I can say that the lights are not wired to the rocker, they are all IKEA smart bulbs.

All my devices are connected to HA by Zigbee2mqtt and when I use the rocker, I can see the use in Z2M logs.
As far as I know, the rocker is not linked directly to the bulbs.

Any idea where I could look to find this automation.

forest cobalt
trim latch
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I have no group in Z2M

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I use a group in HA

forest cobalt
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Ok, well, throw that theory out. If you look at the logbook for the group light entity, does it show what turned it on and off?

trim latch
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Turned on triggered by service Light: Turn on
13:34:54 - 1 minute ago - Supervisor```
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I don't know if I can have more detailed logs, checking...

forest cobalt
trim latch
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yes

forest cobalt
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If you run this in the console, do you get anything back? grep -R "light.[your_group_entity]" --exclude-dir='.*'

trim latch
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console in Z2M?

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or in the command line of HA?

forest cobalt
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In HA. In your /homeassistant (or /config) directory.

trim latch
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ok

forest cobalt
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The latter.

trim latch
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😦 grep: unrecognized option: exclude_dir

forest cobalt
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Ugh... ok. just use grep -R "light.[your_group_entity]", but that will return anything in .storage. Just ignore those.

bold nymph
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Hello, my Z2M add-on is using 70-80% of the cpu

The logs filled with spam messages about only two devices, my two presence sensors, they are reporting like crazy (maybe 4 times a second each) how can I fix it?

I tried deleting them and re pairing them thinking it will restore default settings but it didn’t.

forest cobalt
trim latch
bold nymph
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So how can I change it to default settings

forest cobalt
sour shadow
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I'd bet on the lights being in a default group - Tradfri are known for that

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Z2M won't know, since that's a device side setting really

trim latch
forest cobalt
# bold nymph So how can I change it to default settings

Unpair the devices (put them into pairing mode) and then repair them should remove any custom settings. You might also want to look at the configuration.yaml file in the Z2M directory and remove any references to those devices and then restart Z2M.

forest cobalt
trim latch
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ha, was missing a dot at the end

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I now have a lot os results. What should I look for?

bold nymph
forest cobalt
bold nymph
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Tuya 0_0

forest cobalt
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You'll have a MUCH better experience with ESPHome based presence sensors. But... yeah, remove any reference to them in the config file and then repair them. BUT, you're probably going to have the same issue again.

bold nymph
forest cobalt
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Because those Tuya sensors spam the mesh (which, they kinda have to to be "proper" presence sensors). IIRC, there's very little tuning able to be done in the sensor itself outside of changing the reporting interval.

young star
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Anyone online to help me out with a zigbee2mqtt integration problem?

forest cobalt
young star
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Oh cheers!
I have a sonoff dongle 3.0 E USB. I’ve previously connected it successfully to zigbee2mqtt after flashing with upgraded software.
However my SD card died and i had to redownload HA onto my rpi.

I’m now struggling to connect, and get the following error

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z2m: Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT
at Process.ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:284:19)
at onErrorNT (node:internal/child_process:477:16)
at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:82:21)

forest cobalt
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Using the Z2M addon?

young star
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Yes, with mosquito installed. My config is as follows

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data_path: /config/zigbee2mqtt
socat:
enabled: false
master: pty,raw,echo=0,link=/tmp/ttyZ2M,mode=777
slave: tcp-listen:8485,keepalive,nodelay,reuseaddr,keepidle=1,keepintvl=1,keepcnt=5
options: "-d -d"
log: false
mqtt:
mqtt:
base_topic: zigbee2mqtt
server: mqtt://[ip address]:1883
user: mqtt_user
password: [password]
serial:
Port: >-
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_62c940386cafed11bdea394e71c9e8b5-if00
adapter: ember

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I’ve edited this directly in the config.yaml file too

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When i type “test -w /dev/ttyUSB0 && echo success || echo failure” into terminal, it comes back with success

forest cobalt
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Is ZHA disabled/ignored in HA?

young star
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I ignored it, and then then i unignored it to see if i could delete it altogether but it disappeared when i hit unignore

forest cobalt
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Is ZHA really gone though? Like, do you see it in the integrations list?

young star
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Can’t see it as an option at all, but i didn’t explicitly remove it myself

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Is there a way to locate it

forest cobalt
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No. If you don't see it in the integrations list, then it isn't installed. What version of HA are you running?

young star
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Core
2024.7.3
Supervisor
2024.06.2
Operating System
12.4
Frontend
20240710.0

trim latch
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
young star
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Device path is /dev/ttyUSB0,
The longer one is device ID

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
young star
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Yup same error

bold nymph
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Sorry to interrupt but I’m facing a new problem, I’m on vacation.. and for some reason even though my zigbee network being stable for months, once I left the house many devices left the network (probably due to me unplugging some plugs which acted as routers)

Is there something I could do to pair them back remotely?

young star
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Ohhh

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
trim latch
forest cobalt
# trim latch it's another remote that control them

Using dpaste.org, can you post those automations? If that's the only mention of the light group, then I'm willing to bet there's something in there that's causing it. OR, you have ghosts that are playing with your remote. Or cats. Maybe dogs. Possibly aliens. 😉

rapid dawnBOT
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@young star I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
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@young star Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

forest cobalt
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@young star That means Z2M can't hit your MQTT broker.

bold nymph
sour shadow
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Maybe... that's up to the devices

forest cobalt
sour shadow
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Aqara's older stuff won't

bold nymph
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Then that’s the reason

sour shadow
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Anything Zigbee 3.0 should, but then Zigbee isn't really a standard, more a set of hints and suggestions 😛

forest cobalt
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@Sharna That means Z2M can't hit your

surreal harbor
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Will using Zigbee interfere with my wifi

sour shadow
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Maybe

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The interference is usually the other way around though 😉

surreal harbor
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Ok. I guess I’ll just have to make sure my channels are all different.

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I picked Zigbee over z-wave before I knew that

sour shadow
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Check the pins

nova wraith
bold nymph
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Is it normal for Z2M to use 80% of the CPU?

bold nymph
dusky flint
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Hi, after adding a Google Coral to my setup, none of my z2m devices work. Any idea what could be causing this? I have nothing to go on other than a lot of this in the logs:
2024-07-23 17:16:09zh:ember: Delivery of BROADCAST failed for "65533" [apsFrame={"profileId":0,"clusterId":0,"sourceEndpoint":0,"destinationEndpoint":0,"options":1024,"groupId":0,"sequence":23} messageTag=255]

Only thing I could suspect would be too little power available for the dongle, but it is picked up fine in Proxmox and that should not really be an issue in a Optiplex. Any ideas?

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How can I tell which device 65533 is?

sour shadow
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Make sure the coordinator is on a USB extension cable, well away from that Coral

dusky flint
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It is

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4 meters

forest cobalt
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Plug the USB dongles into a powered USB hub. The Coral will only use power when it’s doing “things” (IIRC).

dusky flint
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But should it really be able to draw so much power that it exhausts all the power available for 9 total ports? I've only got the dongle and the coral plugged in

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Soon I'll move all my devices to wifi tbh 😫 I'm troubleshooting this zigbee mesh every day

spiral bough
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Is it eay to setup zigbee with a USB zigbee dongle and homeassistant on an Rasberry PI 4

sour shadow
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Yes

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Check the pins too

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You'll need a "dongle" (coordinator) on a USB extension cable (or network connected), plus some devices that act as routers (that extend the mesh)

austere patio
wild mortar
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It's not so much that the zigbee coordinator needs more power, it's that it needs consistent and stable power-- the RaspPi isn't capable of consistent and stable power via USB. That's why the recommendation for the powered USB hub is being made.

split sage
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Is it possible to migrate over from the Sonoff Dongle-E to the SLZB-06M, without repairing every device?

sour shadow
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ZHA or Z2M?

split sage
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Z2M sorry

sour shadow
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On ember that should work

split sage
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Yeh, I'm using ember. Is it a straight backup config file and transfer over?

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Hadn't tried it before

sour shadow
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That's my understanding, it should "just work"

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Worst case join the Z2M Discord - the ember dev can sometimes be found there

frosty pine
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I have a ZigBee Dongle (ConBee II) that has worked for years with ZHA.
Recently, I installed a new ZigBee router (SLZB-06P7 Ethernet) with Z2M.
Now, every time I add new devices to Z2M, they also appear in ZHA, and some devices in ZHA show up in Z2M.
I don't understand what the problem is.
Could I have some help?
Thanks.

austere patio
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When you say "appear in", what do you mean?

frosty pine
austere patio
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Did you migrate your Z2M network to ZHA in the past?

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What do your ZHA network settings look like? You can see them in the ZHA integration's "configure" page.

frosty pine
austere patio
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If you migrated Z2M -> ZHA in the past and started Z2M with the same settings, it sounds like you literally are using them but with identical settings

frosty pine
austere patio
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Can you post your ZHA network settings? You can see them in the ZHA integration's "configure" page.

rapid dawnBOT
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@frosty pine I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
austere patio
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1A62 PAN ID, dd:dd:dd:dd:dd:dd:dd:dd EPID, channel 11, and a 01:03:05:07:09:... network key

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That's definitely Z2M's default settings 😄

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You're running ZHA and Z2M with identical Zigbee network settings. I suggest you re-generate Z2M's settings to something unique

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You'll have to re-join all of your Z2M devices but it's not possible to run two Zigbee networks with the same settings like this

frosty pine
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No problem, the Z2M is new and I can repair only some devices. I will check that. Thanks for the help.

austere patio
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Good luck! I'm really surprised devices actually managed to join and work with two conflicting networks...

frosty pine
brittle glade
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Hi folks, quick question in case anyone has tips/ideas about this...

I've had 2 0__SONOFF SNZB-02__ thermometer units connected in different places of the house working fine for almost 1 year ...

One of them now suddenly stopped reporting properly about 3 month ago...

it's permanently stuck with 22ºC, Humidity 80%, Battery at 100% .....

I tried to completely remove it from my installation, hard reset it, and reconnect and it simply doesn't upadte...

austere patio
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Have you tried replacing the battery?

brittle glade
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if I try to reconfigure it says the binding & ID is OK, but the rest returns errors ... (temp measure, realative humidity & power config)

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yeah was one of the first things

austere patio
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When reconfiguring, try clicking the button on the sensor repeatedly (I think it has one) or do it within a few seconds of putting in the battery

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Attribute reporting needs to be set up for those values to change. If it fails, the sensor will never know what it needs to send

brittle glade
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odd I had just reset it, removed + re-added to HA like 20 mins ago... now I'm trying to add it again, it's just stuck on "configuring"

magic vessel
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https://a.co/d/fhI8e9w I'm looking at this to read my hardwired contact sensors wired throughout my house and send their states back over my Zigbee network. It's been a few years, but I am familiar with programming microcontrollers and wiring. Does this seem like a good path to take?

molten linden
austere patio
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Or just use ESPHome directly. You'd save a round trip of cramming/adapting your sensors to Zigbee's data model and hoping it comes out usable once consumed by a Zigbee integration.

agile bobcat
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Hi everyone
I'm looking to start my Home Assistant journey.
I've just purchased a Phoscon RaspBee II.
I'm looking for a Temperature and Humidity Sensor that will work with the RaspBee II, without additional hardware.
I'm also trying to purchase EU or US made sensors. Does anyone know of any? I've spent hours searching so far without much luck. I found a Centralite one, but shipping would be $200+

sour shadow
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Xiaomi Aqara

nocturne geyser
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Trying to get back into Home Assistant, since I've moved house now from rental to own property... I've got Conbee2 Stick It's on a Pi3 atm but gonna move it to Pi4
I'm seeing things that make me think I should get rid of the stick and get something else, but the problem seems to be if you don't use the extension cable... Should I just get another stick instead of Conbee2? I liked that it was simple 😢

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Is there something similar? I know Conbee3 was released recently

agile bobcat
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What have you seen that makes you want to get rid of it?

nocturne geyser
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the "interference" from this New video from home assistant demonstrating USB zigbee interference with and without an extension
https://youtu.be/tHqZhNcFEvA

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I want to get back into it, start fresh

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😄

forest cobalt
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Conbee is about the worst you can use for a coordinator now a days.

nocturne geyser
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Well that is music to my ears! 😢

sour shadow
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Third worst

forest cobalt
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There are MUCH better options. Personally, I would go with a lan coordinator (either Tube's or SMLight).

sour shadow
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CC253x is still the absolute worst

forest cobalt
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Fair point.

nocturne geyser
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Oh that's nice, feels like coming third in an ugly contest

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No idea what "Tube's" or SMLight is... 🙂

forest cobalt
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lol pretty much... back in the dayy, they were decent-ish... but now, nah, much better options.

nocturne geyser
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I liked them because it was just as simple as plug in and work

forest cobalt
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Lan coordinators are even easier than that and you don't have to worry about interference as much.

nocturne geyser
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Nothing says quality like .. oh can't paste picture of website for smlight 😄

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Ill look into youtube reviews see how easy they are to set up and I guess I'll just put conbee2 in a drawer and forget about it

forest cobalt
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Why do you need youtube reviews? lol It's literally plug it in (the smlight has usb/poe for power), and then just point ZHA/Z2M to the IP address. It's simpler than trying to figure out which USB device to use.

nocturne geyser
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haha

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Well for SLZB theres two options one based on CC Chip and another based on EFR Chip, no idea what that is so that's where I'll youtube see what people did
and TubeZB has several options and I assume most popular are ones sold out? 😄

sour shadow
agile bobcat
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Hi everyone

pulsar lintel
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I have a weird issue regarding helpers on two hue motion sensors. After update to 2024.7.3 (might have been 2024.7.2) my binary group of motion sensors does not work 😢 the group does not detect movement. Anyone experienced similar?

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Runs mttq

mental hedge
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I've got one blitzwolf ZigBee smart socket which refuses to pair. The lights flash but nothing appears on z2m. In tailing the log I also don't notice anything relevant come by.
I have three other blitzwolf smart sockets in the same room (2m distance) which work fine. Any ideas?

spiral bough
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any good alternative for philips hue led strips with zigbee

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that i can connect with my home assistant and philips hue hub

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so i don't need to sell me kidney to buy philips hue led strip

sour shadow
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Gledopto controllers + strip of your choice

wild mortar
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Keep in mind you can/should use your Hue stuff with a zigbee coordinator, you don't need their hub.

spiral bough
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but want first to make a wall mounted tabled dashboard

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and remove al the 2.4ghz wifi equipment to make space for the zigbee in the 2.4ghz spectrum

forest cobalt
spiral bough
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just move al the wifi equipment to 5ghz

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but for the moment i don't have any issues

wild mortar
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If they are IoT devices you probably can't move them to 5ghz wifi

spiral bough
spiral bough
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just some TP tapo plugs

forest cobalt
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Tapo plugs do not support 5ghz WiFi.

spiral bough
last rain
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Hi All, has anyone had philips hue light (bulb) just turn on to 100% brightness automatically when connected directly to ZHA? I did read about a bug, but that looks to be only todo with the hue hub. https://imgur.com/a/Qyi1WNH

spiral bough
forest cobalt
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Gotcha 🙂

spiral bough
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if I sell my kidney i can replace them with philips hue plugs

grim igloo
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hue plugs arent worth it

forest cobalt
wild mortar
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zero reason to buy anything but bulbs from hue

grim igloo
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no energy monitoring and more than third reality

spiral bough
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true

grim igloo
spiral bough
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philips hue is just fancy xD

last rain
austere patio
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Your light is turning back on exactly two minutes after you turn it off

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It's a little strange timing-wise. Can you enable ZHA debug logging, try turning the light off, and then disable debug logging after the light turns back on? The log will explain exactly what is happening.

fossil crystal
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@forest cobalt The Aqara motion sensors worked like a charm, thanks! As for the old Iris ones... well, they are in the trash 🙂

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
last rain
austere patio
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Well, still within a few minutes and reproducible. Perfect for a debug log 😄

last rain
fossil crystal
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@forest cobalt Although strange that these devices dont provide "link_quality". I like to monitor this but thios device doesn't provide that for wahtever reason. Some other. motino sensors I have do.

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It shows in Z2M but doesn't seem to go to Home Assistant as an MQTT paramter

forest cobalt
fossil crystal
spare cave
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I'm using the proxmox helper scrips to generate a lxc for zigbee2mqtt

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which one should I use

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the big or the small one

graceful elm
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I'm working on an IAS device, does anyone have an example of a working status update message? I see, [zigpy.zcl] [0x57FD:3:0x0500] Attribute report received: zone_status=<bitmap16: 512> in the logs, but it's not updating the IAS state.

austere patio
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I believe that only Alarm1 and Alarm2 are exposed (by default)

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What kind of device are you making? There are many bits in the "zone status" bitmap and there's no way to tell which ones are used by a generic device. Only Alarm1 and Alarm2 are used by the vast majority of sensors, with additional bits such as Tamper existing but it's again up to the device to ever send an event. I think I've only seen a single motion sensor that does.

tropic depot
graceful elm
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Hah, you got me!

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Every so often I decide to build something

graceful elm
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Docs indicate it's a 16bitmap, but uses only 9 bits, wanted to confirm how they are defining the bit order

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so I know where to put the alarm 1 state, I was only planning on using the one.

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The rest don't seem usefull.

austere patio
graceful elm
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Thanks, looking

austere patio
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You can also maybe re-define your door state as "Door/Window handle" or "Contact switch" instead of a binary sensor, as otherwise your device will need a quirk to fix the generated entities

graceful elm
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It's generating the entity correctly or at least appears to be

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Let me step through my bitwise logic again and I'll let you know if it works

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Would feel like a real failure if I had to build a quirk for a device I made...

graceful elm
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And no quirk required...

graceful elm
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Now I just have to figure out the conversion from x,y color space to RGBW and I should be good

opal trail
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hello- I replaced my tubezb usb router with a tubeszb ethernet router; I've got the ethernet adapter on the network and discovered, and I replaced it with tcp://<ip>:6638 in the config- I see in the logs devices are able to be reached again... however, the zigbee2mqtt UI won't load, just shows Not Found-- does anyone know what I need to troubleshoot/change to reset/fix the UI?

sour fossil
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Can I connect the Aqara U100 to HA using ZHA without an Aqara hub?

fierce fiber
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Today I learned that not all zigbee devices are created equally. I found a set of switches that apparently works with deconz and z2m but not ZHA.

sour shadow
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Yup, all software has to have support for the device, ZHA calls that quirks

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Anything Zigbee 3.0 should work without one, if the manufacturer followed the standards (good luck on that)

fierce fiber
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I'm guessing Matter/Thread is going to try and simplify this? Although a certain xkcd comic about standards comes to mind. 😄

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I'll have to be a bit more diligent in the future. This was the first battery powered zigbee device I've had to add, I'm guessing this might be what makes it different from all the lights and relays I've added.

quick kestrel
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Hi everyone,
I have bound Occupancy sensor to a Light ant these combo work perfectly. However it takes like good 5-8 minutes of no occupany detected to turn off the light.
How can I reduce te delay?
I am using Z2M and Hue Motion sensor

sour shadow
young star
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Heyo,
Just wondering if anyone is familiar with Diyhue (to integrate zigbee as a hue bulb) - I’m having some trouble setting it up. The hue app detects the “bridge” but the web UI link button doesn’t confirm the bridge link.

rapid dawnBOT
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@young star Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
young star
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Cheers ill have a read 🙂

unreal vault
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I am trying to debug a weird issue, so I have this sonoff 3USB dongle plus, and updated to latest firmware and all okay, then installd MQTT and zigbe2mqtt ! all is fine so far, configurations wise, passingthe dongle and all... now, I did add both motion sensors Sonoff SNZB-03 "was painful to add " but both arre added and showing in the mqtt devices and in the zigbe2mqtt. now the issue is, only one of them works at a time in terms for reporting the occupancy , so if I trigger the office one, I can't rigger the living room one and vice versa, which makes no sense at all and I am not sure what's going on, are those devices known to be bad? is that a common issue?

sour shadow
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Yes, Sonoff's Zigbee sensors are bad

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Hopefully though you've got other devices in that mesh, actual Zigbee routers?

forest cobalt
sour shadow
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That or they're all in the one room?

unreal vault
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I don't have any other devices " yet " just getting hang on and deciding if I will go all the way with zwave or zigbee along side esp with both... so I have only " one dongle and two devices " motion " and from the z2m map, seems like they are connected directly to the dongle

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they are in the same room now while I am testing

forest cobalt
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You need to add at least one routing device. Especially with Sonoff sensors.

unreal vault
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hmmm can't the dongle act as routing device? I thought this is the point of it?

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a corridantor?

grim igloo
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the point of zigbee is to have a mesh for devices to use

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right now you have a dongle

forest cobalt
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Not exactly. The coordinator coordinates. The routing devices do most of the heavy lifting.

sour shadow
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Some end devices are fine going direct, most are in fact

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Tuya and Sonoff however are generally a clusterfuck

unreal vault
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seems like they are okay going direct but not both at the same time

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ya, so far, my vote is going for z-wave 🙂 with dongle and a slim motion, it worked as charm.. but I like to test all my option

sour shadow
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Don't buy Sonoff (or Tuya) and your Zigbee experience won't suck 😉

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Also, you have put the coordinator on a USB extension cable?

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You did pick a Zigbee channel that's clear of WiFi?

unreal vault
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yep, it's on extention cable, and yes, a channel that isn't used by my WiFi 🙂

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I will remove both motion sensors from the network and test again, at least I am kinda sure the z2m and mqtt are okay

sour shadow
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I run Z2M with over 100 devices and response times are as near instant as it gets

unreal vault
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I am not quesition the z2m or mqtt tech, i am sure it's great, it just annoying that my 1st devices are poop

sour shadow
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Research before buying 😛

unreal vault
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I did, but seems like not well enough 😄

forest cobalt
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You'll have a better experience by adding a routing device (and yeah, avoiding Tuya and Sonoff). Like Tinkerer, I have over 100 Zigbee devices with pretty much 0 issues.

unreal vault
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I did more research on the dongle side to be honet, for both zwave and zigbee, more than the sensors

forest cobalt
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(Also, don't be afraid to ask questions here or in #hardware-archived about devices you are interested in)

unreal vault
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so which are nice brands?

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and good routers ?

forest cobalt
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First... where are you in the world?

unreal vault
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the only thing I like about zigbee is the sweet price spot vs z-wave

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somewhere in EU

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so amazon would do , but prefer somewhere other than amazon:) but you get the idea

forest cobalt
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Ok. A little vauge, but that works. My preferred brand is Aqara. Usually fairly cheap, but differs per region. Gledopto is another decent brand for lighting. Hue lights are top. Ikea is also "not bad" (but can be a bit of a pain sometimes).

unreal vault
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Thanks, I can start idgging into that 🙂 yes we have ikea here 🙂

forest cobalt
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Ikea is good for sensors and plugs. Bulbs I tend to stay away from as they get wonky in a mesh with a lot of traffic.

sour shadow
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(need to update with a few devices I've added recently, but nothing major is missing)

carmine hamlet
unreal vault
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nice !

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so you do havea router and a dongle?

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I am running HAOS on synlogy and passing the USB basiclly

sour shadow
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Lots of routers - Innr

forest cobalt
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~45 routing devices on my mesh

unreal vault
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oh, so I don't need a " router device " other devices can route and build the mesh, this is my understanding

forest cobalt
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Not exactly. You do need routing devices.

sour shadow
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Yes - check the second pinned message from the top

unreal vault
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Thanks!

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also funny enough removed the not working nice device again, added it again and did this few time,s not both working okay

sharp anchor
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Hi. So I'm a bit confused as to what's going on. I've added my Hue Motion Sensor to HA via ZHA and it seems like entity Motion does is stuck to Clear .

forest cobalt
sharp anchor
forest cobalt
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Can you send a screen shot of the device info screen for the motion sensor? (use imgur to share pics)

sharp anchor
forest cobalt
sharp anchor
forest cobalt
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lol ok... the sensors to the right of that 🙂 Close though!

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You also don't need to blank out IEEE or nwk. Those are local only to your devices.

sharp anchor
forest cobalt
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That's odd. IIRC, that motion entity shouldn't be there at all. Is this an older Hue motion sensor (like the SML001 or the SML002)?

sharp anchor
forest cobalt
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Ah, that's why. Ok. Just ignore the motion sensor and use the occupancy sensor. They both do the same thing.

sharp anchor
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I bought it in 2019-2020 so.. 😄

forest cobalt
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Yeah, most of mine are that old too.

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But I use Z2M, not ZHA.

sharp anchor
forest cobalt
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Yup. It's probably not updating that sensor at all. But, occupancy is the newer nomenclature.

sharp anchor
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Not helping with matters is that when I run the automation via Run to test it the motion, of course, works then. 😕

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But I'll ignore it then from now on.

forest cobalt
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No it doesn't. When you run an automation manually, it ignores triggers and conditions and simply runs the actions. So, while you think it's working, it's not.

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lol surprise. That's a gotcha a lot of people face.

sharp anchor
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Tell me you're now to Home Assistant without telling me you're new to Home Assistant.. 👀 Heh.

forest cobalt
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lol yup. We were all new at some point though. 😉

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You can also disable that motion entity if you don't want to see it anymore. Click on the entity, go to the ⚙️ icon, and uncheck Enabled and Visible.

sharp anchor
austere patio
forest cobalt
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(Unless I read that wrong)

austere patio
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Yeah, one is a motion sensor and the other is an on/off output cluster IIRC

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So you bind the on/off output cluster to the corresponding on/off input cluster on a light

forest cobalt
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Yup. Ok. So the OnOff cluster is pretty much just for the binding?

austere patio
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But I could be mistaken, I don't have one hooked up right now

sharp anchor
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So all seems to be working relatively fine, though I can tell that there's a ~1 minute delay for the lights to go on sometimes when occupancy is detected..

austere patio
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1 minute??

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Is your stick on a USB extension cable and away from SSDs and other USB 3.0 devices?

sharp anchor
sharp anchor
sharp anchor
# austere patio 1 minute??

Oh this ~~might've beenwas a PEBKAC.. I had set the sensor to work from entity so that it was from Detected, instead of Clear. Now that I changed the value for From: Clearand To: Detectedthe lights went on almost immediately.

stiff crow
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Is there a possibility to dump all clusters at once?

strong cedar
austere patio
stiff crow
austere patio
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Only way to do that is with a script to try reading every possible attribute of every cluster

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Devices don't really report what attributes they support so you have to try them all

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That being said, the entity state encompasses most useful attributes. Everything else will likely be static.

stiff crow
austere patio
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The device reports its device type and what clusters it supports. From there, each cluster is handled differently but most have some sort of feature flag attribute (e.g. supported_color_modes) that describes what the cluster (e.g. Color) behaves like. For other types of clusters, attributes are read and entities are created depending on whether or not the device responds with a value for the attribute or if it errors out, saying the attribute is unsupported.

strong cedar
austere patio
strong cedar
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This isn’t from Tuya right? It’s from ION Industries

austere patio
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It also doesn't show the Zigbee logo anywhere in documentation or on the product page because it's not a certified device, so it likely doesn't conform to any reasonable standard. If you buy it, it might work if someone reverse engineered it. But with Tuya it's pretty hit-or-miss.

stiff crow
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Tuya provides whitelabe devices

strong cedar
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Ah check, where can I find Zigbee certified devices?

stiff crow
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afaik there's no certification

austere patio
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It's really not simple, unfortunately. You can search for the certifications here but devices often are often rebranded, renamed, or otherwise won't show up if you search for them. If the box or product image has a Zigbee logo (not just "requires a Zigbee hub" or similar wording), it's probably certified.

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There are also third-party databases of what people reported as working for them: https://zigbee.blakadder.com/. Certification and "Zigbee 3.0" doesn't guarantee the device will work perfectly but it's definitely better than devices that avoid really mentioning Zigbee because they legally aren't allowed to 😄

molten epoch
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I'm trying to connect a philips remote (929002398602) and some innr 279-T bulbs to my zigbee2mqtt and none of them seem to be getting picked up... is there some special firmware or something I'm meant to be using?

strong cedar
unreal vault
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btw, is there an intervla for zigbee to update the mqtt?

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I mean in general , like motion sesnor detected then to clear

forest cobalt
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It's as fast as the sensor updates unless you have latency between Z2M and MQTT on a network. As addons, it should be pretty much instantaneous.

graceful elm
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Working on my light project again, I didn't realize what a pain it would be to convert x,y colors to RGBW, is it possible to define the light entity as RGBW? I'm not seeing anything in the ZCL specification, so guessing it's a no, but thought I'd ask before I go back to staring at color specifications.

unreal vault
sour shadow
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That's down to the sensor

unreal vault
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time to dig into sonofffffff 🙂 thanks!

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but so far, pairing them couple of times, fixed the main issues, will still look into the router, I just like to have the infra stracture in place, then pick whatever sensor I like, whatever they are ESP, zwave or zigbee

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thanks so much folks for all the info!

austere patio
graceful elm
unreal vault
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Gonna love the manual "The device weight is less than 1 kg"

unreal vault
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oh wait, this light is a zigbee light?

graceful elm
unreal vault
sour shadow
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Yes

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Most mains powered devices do

unreal vault
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cool, will get one of those you have in your page and test them 🙂

forest cobalt
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Pretty much any mains powered device is a routing device as long as it has a neutral wire (for switches and relays). The notable exception is Sengled bulbs. They are purposely end devices.

austere patio
fossil crystal
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I'm not worried about it as I wont monitor this but just wanted to respond to you that I dont see the entity in HA at all

graceful elm
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I was thinking I would probably go the easy way out with the white and if I see RGB values over a threshold, treat that as a white light

molten epoch
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What are the advantages of the sonoff dongle-E over the dongle-P? I thought it was the newer next step in the tech but seems it's still having a lot of issues. Was wondering if the P is just better?

fossil crystal
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P to my knowledge is just more tested and supported. I have the E dongle and its working fine with Z2M.

forest cobalt
graceful elm
glad plinth
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My zigbee network has recently become unreliable and I can't figure out why. I'm running 50 devices on Z2M, at least half of those devices are mains powered routers (inovelli light switches).

In the last few+ weeks after a HA and Z2M update, I rebooted HA and now at least 1/3 of my switches show as offline. Everything was flawless before. A few reboots later and still bad.

How can I best troubleshoot this?

lapis venture
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Does anyone know if openway meters are zigbee or zwave?

carmine hamlet
austere patio
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They're probably ZigBee but it's not compatible with the ZigBee you use at home

lapis venture
lapis venture
north scroll
lapis venture
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thank you bro

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thank you so much

north scroll
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no worries have a nice research it’s a french product this one, never tested also it’s possible todo a camera who will read the displayed data on the openway meter but a bit difficult todo.

gritty nimbus
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Hi, I have a problem linking my ZBDongle-P (zigbee) to HA. HA detects it well, then i try to configure it, I click on "erase network parameters and create a new one" then it says "Loading the next step for ZHA" but never stop loading... it loads for infinite and during it loads I can't write anything on my VM, it's like it crashed. When I try to turn it off, the vm says "not responding".

Before, I thought it was the dongle the problem, but I bought a new one and it is still not working... The strange thing is that 1 month ago, with this setup, it worked with my old dongle but then I couldn't connect my dongle anymore, I had exactly this bug, that's why I bought a new one.

Here is the log after my crash : https://imgur.com/a/x8Vig4D

So either it comes from HA or VirtualBox. I don't really know what to do. I tried to do everything again another PC but it did the same thing, so for me it's HA...

If someone has an idea it would really help !

honest solstice
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Hey! I got this weird issue with my IKEA bulbs. They keep turning on at 5 in the morning (Kitchen bench turned on) without any trace of what actually turned it on. It happens every day and the HA says it's at 0%, but clearly it's at 1%. I have the SkyConnect key, so no bridge for it. I come to the point where I turn lights off every 5 minutes with an automation between 4 and 6. just to have it as off. because it will stay on for the entire day at 1% otherwise. Anyone had a similar issue?

dusky flint
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Hi, I'm running zigbee2mqtt ember. I'm trying to pair a tradfri 30w led driver, but I get this message. What can be done? I already have one of those drivers paired

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zh:ember: [ZDO] Node descriptor for "7751" reports device is only compliant to revision "22" of the ZigBee specification (current revision: 23)

dusky flint
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And even unsupported devices should be able to pair

modest turret
granite glacier
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Possible to communicate over zigbee (pc to pc) with 2 instances of zigbee2mqtt?

sour shadow
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No

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But you could use MQTT

granite glacier
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Its not possible to somehow emulate a device?

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If it can be a coordinator, why not a end device?

sour shadow
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A zigbee device can only connect to one mesh

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A zigbee mesh can only have one coordinator

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Nobody's seen the value in faking an end device or router to relay PC to PC traffic, given the terribly low bandwidth

granite glacier
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Yes, what Im thinking about is the 2nd "z2m" being a end device. Doesnt have to be z2m, can it be anything else. Still not possible?

sour shadow
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There are a million better ways of doing that communication

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You're doing the equivalent of how to make a teapot out of chocolate

granite glacier
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Im thinking about an isolated server but still having some low speed communication available which is more then enough

sour shadow
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LoRa would be easier

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Hell, wet string would be easier

granite glacier
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Initially i was thinking classic IR (receiver+tranceiver) 😛

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Wet string?

forest cobalt
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What are you really trying to do here? 2 instances of Z2M (like in different buildings or something) in 1 instance of HA?

granite glacier
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No, 2 instances of HA, servers next to eachother, but 1 will be totally isolated

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Mqtt is more then enough, but ipv4 routing is "not" isolated

forest cobalt
sour shadow
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Why not connect them on a private network, just the two of them

granite glacier
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Still ipv4

sour shadow
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What's the problem there?

granite glacier
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One gets compromised, automatically another is considered compromised

forest cobalt
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Secure your network then? The networking protocol (IPV4/IPV6) has absolutely nothing to do with that.

sour shadow
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Well... hate to tell you this, but if they can communicate in any way that doesn't change the problem

granite glacier
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IR/zigbee is slow enough to not make it useful

sour shadow
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You're worrying about bolting the door while leaving the windows open

granite glacier
forest cobalt
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That is absolutely incorrect.

sour shadow
granite glacier
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Its about totally isolating but still leaving some slow communication possible

sour shadow
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That's not totally isolating

granite glacier
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99,99% isolated 😛

forest cobalt
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If you want to totally isolate your HA instance, put it in a DMZ.

sour shadow
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isolation is binary

granite glacier
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Absolute minimum possible for mqtt-like

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Let me explain the bigger picture 😄

forest cobalt
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MQTT is TCP based. Period. What you are trying to do with "slow communication" is not going to change that.

granite glacier
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Im thinking about trying voice assistant and put microphones all over the house

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Just to turn on/off lights, the HA with voice assistant doesnt need anything with the outside world except a command to hue bridge to turn it on/off, right?

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So how to push only those commands and not doing intervlan routing

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IR/zigbee defeat the purpose of having any possibility of listening to those mics

sour shadow
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What's your threat profile here? What are you trying to protect against?

forest cobalt
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Ok. Really not the channel for this. BUT, in order for any of that to work, you MUST have TCP communication... over IPV4/IPV6, doesn't matter. All of the services you mentioned use TCP networking. You can choose to put them all in a DMZ or an isolated VLAN, but you are NOT going to get around the TCP requirement.

granite glacier
sour shadow
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I mean, you could do it in UDP, but IP based is the only way

sour shadow
granite glacier
sour shadow
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You don't need some crazy "isolated" setup

forest cobalt
granite glacier
forest cobalt
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Yes

rapid dawnBOT
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@granite glacier When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

granite glacier
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Cpu mitigations are always possible

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I mean, cpu related compromises

sour shadow
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I still don't see what on earth you're trying to secure against here, what nefarious attacks against you you're worried about

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Are you really so interesting that governments are targeting you?

granite glacier
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Simple, its privacy, nothing fancy

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If I say yes, its easier?

sour shadow
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No

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That'd just make me wonder at what you're doing

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For "just privacy" you don't need the massively over-engineered clusterfuck you're proposing

granite glacier
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If I say family doesnt want to have microphones anywhere, is it easier?

sour shadow
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Then ... don't have mics?

granite glacier
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Its not nessecary overengineered, but privacy oriented

sour shadow
granite glacier
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Why would anybody want microphones connected to anywhere?

sour shadow
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You ... you're asking about doing that

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Are you feeling ok?

granite glacier
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That is making a teapot out of marmelade

forest cobalt
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@granite glacier You're missing the point here. HA is privacy focused. You can go even harder than that by putting your HA instance (and all IOT devices) into a DMZ or isolated VLAN.

granite glacier
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Isolated VLAN is not do all and forget security wise. Router can get compromised

forest cobalt
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(Plus, using a Hue hub is NOT privacy focused as Hue requires an email account and registration to use the hub)

granite glacier
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I used hue bridge as an example.... It would be isolated anyway from that voice isolated

forest cobalt
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As I said, secure your network then. Get a proper router that does real threat mitigation.

granite glacier
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Anyway, I think were not getting anywhere

sour shadow
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Anyway, this is horribly off topic for this channel

for chat about private voice assistants start a thread in #voice-assistants-archived

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But first read the pins there, as the problem is solved (ish) already

dusky flint
broken jewel
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Connect ZBT-1 / SkyConnect

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Is there any limitations with this?

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I treid the sonoff hub and was quickly dissapointed and didnt want to flash the firmware

sour shadow
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Largely no, but updating firmware is a Good Thing

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(at least for coordinators)

glad plinth
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My zigbee network has recently become unreliable and I can't figure out why. I'm running 50 devices on Z2M, at least half of those devices are mains powered routers (inovelli light switches).

In the last few+ weeks after a HA and Z2M update, I rebooted HA and now at least 1/3 of my switches show as offline. Everything was flawless before. A few reboots later and still bad.

How can I best troubleshoot this?

sour shadow
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Power cycle all the routers?

oblique edge
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Im in the process of moving my lights and buttons from the Hue Bridge to ZHA. I tried 2 lights, went super smooth. Now i was trying a Hue Smart Button, but i was not able to discover it in ZHA. I resetted & removed the button from the Hue app, tried a hardware reset and all, but to no avail. As soon as i try to re-add it to the Hue app, it finds it in seconds. Any tips?

austere patio
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What kind of button?

oblique edge
austere patio
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Is your coordinator on a USB extension cable and away from USB 3.0 devices, SSDs, and other sources of 2.4GHz interference?

oblique edge
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Well the lights were easy to connect, and just for testing i stood next to my Zigbee USB dongle to make sure the connection was not the issue.

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Connecting to Hue app works straight away

austere patio
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If the device makes any attempt whatsoever to connect to ZHA, you'll see it show up in the joining window. The fact that it isn't makes it sound like either the device isn't actually reset and isn't removed from the Hue hub or there is an interference issue that prevents it from communicating with ZHA.

last ruin
molten epoch
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When binding something, is there a downside to binding multiple clusters?

rapid dawnBOT
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@white galleon I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
oblique edge
north grove
#

Good morning, does anybody know how I can connect my Philips Hue Lightbar via Zigbee. I have an Conbee II Coordinator. The compability list doesent show the Light Bar itself, see: https://phoscon.de/en/conbee2/compatible. Is there an another solution / idea?

kind herald
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i am using several shelly switches that are connected via wifi. they support zigbee as well. is it possible to keep them being used via wifi but use zigbee to function as a router for other zigbee devices? Nevermind they dont support zigbee. I got confused with something else 😦

elfin flax
#

HI all, ever since switching from deconz to ZHA, i've been getting event entries of things changing on my zigbee network in the logbook. This issue has been logged a while back here: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/84590 . Others also noticed that excluding the zha domain or zha_event type does nothing. Is there a way to make these entries stop or get some eyes on this request?

honest solstice
forest cobalt
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Also, set the power recovery to off and that should prevent them from turning on from a power outage.

honest solstice
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No power cut, no disconnection. The logs just says 'X turned on'. Everyday at 5.30-ish.

#

I have the power recovery at Off.. And tried "last state" too.

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May have to jump into the repo and follow the code a bit. Havnt had time to look into the actual code for HA or zigbee, might be some bug in there.

forest cobalt
austere patio
honest solstice
forest cobalt
honest solstice
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All of them, lol

#

I just enabled debugging.

#

How do I read the logs, is it a json file somewhere or like a new tab where I can search for timestamps?

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Oh.. And it never happened before, when I had HUE, though, I had the bridge and not the skyconnect.

austere patio
honest solstice
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So*

opal trail
#

hello- I replaced my tubezb usb router with a tubeszb ethernet router; I've got the ethernet adapter on the network and discovered, and I replaced it with tcp://<ip>:6638 in the config- I see in the logs devices are able to be reached again... however, the zigbee2mqtt UI won't load, just shows Not Found- does anyone know what I need to troubleshoot/change to reset/fix the UI? Struggling to find any similar issues, wondering if I just need to rebuild my entire network but trying to avoid that if possible

quick lark
#

Anyone know how to turn off the notifications for errors that pop up on zigbee2mqtt? The errors pop up like every 5 seconds and I can't do anything because it takes up the whole screen

lofty kindle
#

Anyone here find z2m Groups to be unreliable?
I've been using it for a while after switch from HA groups, but I got issues like groups not appearing through mqtt, becomes unavailable at times etc.

forest cobalt
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I've been using Z2M groups for years. I've never had an issue like what you are seeing. It sounds like an issue with your MQTT broker perhaps. Anything in the Z2M logs?

lofty kindle
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I'm not seeing anything unusual in the logs, seems fine. It's just not pushing the recreated groups. I believe it's some sort of cache issue? I tried rebooting everything, but same issue unfortunatly

#

Devices seem unaffected, just groups

forest cobalt
#

Huh, odd. If you delete the group, does it delete it from MQTT and HA?

lofty kindle
#

If I delete it via Z2M it doesn't delete in HA/MQTT, I have to manually delete it

#

Also, I moved away from z2m HA addon, and hosting it on it's own. I don't think that makes any difference anyways

forest cobalt
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Actually, it might. This is something I would raise as an issue in either the Z2M discord or on their giithub. Where is your MQTT hosted?

lofty kindle
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MQTT is hosted as a HA addon, and Z2M on Proxmox. I'm using the SLZB-06M poe coordinator

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Maybe the coordinator firmware is the issue? It seems to be stuck on 7.4.1, I've noticed that there is a 7.4.3 update, but can't find a way to update it

forest cobalt
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Personally, I would move the MQTT out of HA as well and onto the same host as Z2M is. Just my personal preference though. I don't know if that's the issue or not.

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No, the coordinator firmware has nothing to do with the groups not being deleted from MQTT.

lofty kindle
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Yeh, I'm slowly migrating everything away lol. Have you done the same?

forest cobalt
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Yup. Z2M, MQTT and ZW2JS are all running in separate containers on a separate machine from HA.

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But, I also run HA Container, so I can't do addons anyhow 😉

lofty kindle
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Ah nice, I wasn't too sure about MQTT for it would cause more hassle than it's worth. Seems like that's next on my list : )

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Thanks for your help

forest cobalt
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Yeah, it's worth it. Anytime! Happy to help!

lofty kindle
#

Just discovered EMQX, seems rather interesting smile

fierce parcel
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Hello,

I've encountered an issue with one of my IKEA door sensors. It's the second time on different devices, this has happened (about once a month), where the sensors malfunction. The door closing isn't recognized, and the sensor remains stuck in the "open" state, even though I open and close the door. A light blinks when I open/close the door, indicating that the action is detected, but in Home Assistant, the status doesn't change. Additionally, other door sensors work correctly, and my network is stable in that area.

The only way to reset the sensor is by removing and reinserting the battery. I wanted to know if anyone else has faced this problem and if there is a solution (e.g., a way to force a status recheck of the sensor).

Thank you.

carmine hamlet
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Especially with Z2M. It was okay with other MQTT clients

ancient current
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Hey guys, I just ordered my first raspberry pi and am planning to run home assistant on it.
This is my first time working with home assistant aswell and I have no IT background or something.

So I´ve decided to order the sonoff zigbee dogle 3 plus and a few things like light bulbs and a thermometer or something to dive into it and try some things.
If I understood right, "main" gadgets like light bulbs work as some kind of repeater for the zigbee signal, is this correct?
I´d also like to use my home assistant as privacy focused as possible so everything should only be stored locally and not in a cloud or something.
Do you guys have some brand recommendations for gadgets that fit into my privacy focused concept?
Afaik the sonoff things should be alright for this, since they store data locally, right?
What about light bulbs, any recommendations?

Thank you in advance 🙂

grim igloo
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regarding bulbs and other mains powered devices yes they will act as repeaters (just not sengled bulbs) but if you buy quality bulbs like philips hue they will work great

ancient current
grim igloo
ancient current
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for example, yes

grim igloo
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aqara temp/humidity sensors are popular

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and cheap

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for motion sensor either aqara p1 or hue (expensive but nice)

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i also like the aqara magic cube it is fun

ancient current
# grim igloo aqara temp/humidity sensors are popular

Thank you 🙂
The sonogf temp/ huminity sensor is currently on discount and even cheaper.
Is it worse?
The magic cube is something like a echo dot, right?
Do you have any recommendations for plugs or power strips?

grim igloo
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You are better off buying a better coordinator too

ancient current
grim igloo
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no the sonoff dongle

ancient current
grim igloo
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but i dont like pi either i like mini pcs 🙂

wild mortar
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That's unamerican SHS!

ancient current
wild mortar
ancient current
wild mortar
ancient current
grim igloo
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there's no reason to virtualize raspi os but sure you can run pihole or other things as docker containers or lxcs

fierce parcel
ancient current
grim igloo
nova plume
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I have a skyconnect dongle - whats the appropriate way to update the firmware? Last time I tried with the web app and it killed my dongle, I'd like to avoid that this time lol.

ancient current
open knoll
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Has anyone tested the 24g vs the 5.8g presence sensor from tuya?

forest cobalt
open knoll
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Do you know the difference between the 2?

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I have FP2 for the open rooms.

forest cobalt
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Honestly, there isn’t a difference. It’s just marketing BS. The mmWave portion is 24ghz. But, it’s a Tuya product and will spam your mesh. Plus, it’s barely tunable. The FP2 is superior to it in most every way. But, esphome based presence sensors are king.

open knoll
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Like ESPresense?

forest cobalt
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No. Like the MSR-2 from Apollo Automation or the EverythingPresence-1.

open knoll
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Oh. Yea.

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I agree there.

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It can detect the super natural

forest cobalt
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I actually got rid of my FP2s for the MSR-2/MTR-1s.

open knoll
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That’s the small one right?

forest cobalt
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Yup.

open knoll
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How do you mount it

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Or where

forest cobalt
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Mine are hidden all over the house. Behind my couch, behind my bed, under my desk, etc.

open knoll
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So it detects well being on the floor behind something else!?

forest cobalt
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Yup

wild mortar
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if tuned correctly (for the msr2)

open knoll
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Damn wish I knew that.

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Where can I buy it

forest cobalt
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lol that’s the major benefit of mmWave. It traverses objects.

wild mortar
wild mortar
open knoll
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Does it do zones and if it does, how do you like it? Can it report out like a direction of motion?

wild mortar
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The MTR does

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and yes

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and I like it

open knoll
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What’s the MTR.

wild mortar
open knoll
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Sounds like the MTR is the better one.

wild mortar
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MTR is zones and multi person tracking, MSR is "Zones lite" (eg range based but not area based) and additional tuning.

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Different use cases.

open knoll
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I see. Open space. Vs maybe a single room

stoic mango
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Saw recommendations for smlight mg24, I don't seem to find them in stock in AliExpress or their official shop, any other recommendations that ship worldwide?

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Or does the mg21 version works as good too?

forest cobalt
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The mg24 is top of the line right now. But, depending on how big of a mesh you are looking to run, the P7 would also be good.

stoic mango
forest cobalt
stoic mango
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Was just hoping to potentially future proof it.

forest cobalt
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I get that and same. I've had my Tubezb P2 since late 2019 and it's been fantastic.

molten linden
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I’ll have mgm24’s I stock late next week. Away right now and waiting on some supplies which will be there when I get back.

forest cobalt
lean depot
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Hi! I'm having trouble binding a Niko switch to an IKEA Tradfri led driver. According to the interface the bind is succesful, but nothing happens when clicking a button. I've tried binding a different switch to the same driver, that works fine. I've tried binding the Niko switch to an IKEA Tradfri bulb, that also works fine. Any ideas on how to fix or debug? Using zigbee2mqtt.

stoic mango
fierce parcel
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try with and without

austere wadi
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Which USB zigbee /mqtt Stick would you reccomend for a HA setup on raspberry. Usecase would be connecting hue bulbs

fierce parcel
ancient current
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i dont need an aqara hub when i got an zigbee, right?

shadow tartan
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I'm pretty sure you can't pair their locks. I think the same applies to their curtain motor.

ancient current
shadow tartan
ancient current
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aight, thank you 🙂

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do you have any recommendations for GU lightbulbs other than hue since they are pretty pricey?

shadow tartan
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Sorry but no, I just use Tapo Matter bulbs.

fresh oar
ancient current
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okay, np

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i´ll look into it, thx!

forest cobalt
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@split sage did you figure your thing out?

shadow tartan
forest cobalt
kind leaf
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G'Day, question, I am using/recently migrated to zigbee2mqtt over ZHA, whyh? Because I like the abstraction. I can restarting different things for different reasons, etc, etc. HASS start up is a lot faster also, anyway. My question is, MQTT/mosquitto, does HASS require that mqtt/mosquitto is configured with persistence? I ask because I only turned it off the other day thinking, what do I need that for and I wanted one less state store in my setup ( don't ask) but I had a scenario just now where I restarted HAS and all of my zigbee/mqtt devices became unknown, to get it back I had to restart zigbee2mqtt --> HASS and I saw it added all of these topics/data, so I wonder if I have to restart mqtt/mosquitto and persistence isn't there and then it restarts, they get lost. HASS looses them.... make sense?

carmine hamlet
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if you mean "retained", then yes, MQTT messages should be retained for exactly the reason you describe

kind leaf
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Yeah, ok,. Well the mosquitto config file says 'persistence' but, sure. Same thing. 🙂 I"ll test it later

carmine hamlet
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You do need retention, which is controlled by the client, and doesn't necessarily need to be stored in persistent storage

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I suspect that if you restart Mosquitto, Z2M will automatically republish all topics when it connects, as Z2M does when it starts up

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In short, you should enable retention globally in the Z2M config and it will address your issue

kind leaf
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ah, rriigghhtt..

kind leaf
carmine hamlet
kind leaf
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yeah, ok... per device...

carmine hamlet
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I do it globally with this:

device_options:
  retain: true
kind leaf
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n1, thanks

small radish
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Hi everyone, i'm currently using a Conbee II with ZHA and have about 40 devices (Hue and Ikea Lamps, hue power plugs, hue motion sensors, Aqara temperature & humidity sensors and an aqara curtain driver). I'd like to switch over to standalone Hub to be a bit less dependent on a running server, mainly for lights & motion sensors. Is this even possible?

sour shadow
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Not really, no

split sage
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I had to manually enable it for existing ones

harsh vessel
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Hello

I am currently trying to migrate my futurehome termostat away from the futurehome gateway, and i bought a homeassist sky connect.

The Skyconnect found my termostat right away when i manually entered its pairing mode.

The problem is that i am not getting all the data that i would get with my futurehome hub.

This is my first device that i am trying to add with zigbee to homeassist. I read in the Zigbee Home Automation page that some information could take some time to show up. Does that mean that i should just do nothing and see if more entities shows up, or is this just in pairing mode?

austere patio
whole ermine
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Has anyone had any problems with ZHA/Skyconnect recently? My zigbee has stopped working and logs suggest the channel 15 is overloaded - no idea why it has started happening

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...Turns out it was my 2.4ghz wifi network interfering with it

spare cave
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Will some generic ZigBee devices work with ZigBee2mqtt or only the listed supported devices

forest cobalt
spare cave
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I wanna try some generic motorized blinds

forest cobalt
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How generic is generic?

lime drift
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I currently have two sonof zigbee dongles. I never tested Z2M... I'm just affraid to spend a lot of time and have to roll back everithing... All those things and ESP takes a lot of time and energy 😉

spare cave
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If its total dogshit I'll return it

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Some people in the reviews say it works with z2m

fossil crystal
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How much battery does the "Z2M Availability" option take up? I have it set to 10 timeout for main and 1500 time for battery powered. Is that reasonable?

austere patio
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If it's anything like ZHA's, it has no impact. Battery-powered devices check in when they feel like it and you have to give them leeway for offline vs sleeping.

ionic locust
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It is normal that some devices become unavailable from time to time?

forest cobalt
ionic locust
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Connected everything through sky connect. I have added last week some router devices to make the range better and was ok for 1 week. Than today came from work and the end devices found them unavailable

forest cobalt
ionic locust
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As devices for now i have 10 and 2 of them are routers. I have 2 devices near sky connect, then a router around 12 ft away and another router connected to it to supply signal to my top floor. Funny thing is not all devices. So technically the once i am having issues are the ones that are getting signal from both router which one is a bulb and the other is a plug

shrewd saddle
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I just got back into HA life with a bunch of Tuya smart plugs. Got them into Haos but a few have an energy history. How can I reset that? My googlefu only gave me answers from Tuya that needs their gateway

mellow geode
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That's almost two years old. It should already be included in Z2M.

shrewd saddle
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If there is a reset button in Z2M please guide me to it because I dont understand it at all.

quick oxide
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Morning all. Have about 40 devices connected to a SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2. Latest firmware, ember driver you name it. Network is fairly stable, 38 of the devices are always on (with neutral wires) hence plenty of relays. But (there's always a but) one device seems to have very intermittent connectivity. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. It's neighbors are always accessible (feet away from it) but this particular device (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TYWB_4ch-RF.html#mhcozy-tywb%25204ch-rf) behaves strangely. Some commands go through, some do not with the ones that do not resulting in "failed: 'Error: ZCL command 0xa4c13811a90fa235/2 genOnOff.off({}" timeouts. Occassionally I also see (ember provides these) ROUTE_ERROR_MANY_TO_ONE_ROUTE_FAILURE messages.

So, long story short, any ideas on what to try? Adding relays/routers will in my opinion do nothing as there are two of them feet away from it.

Could it be interference? The device is in an electrical box next to circuit breakers and etc.

forest cobalt
quick oxide
forest cobalt
quick oxide
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Can't beat the price 🙂

forest cobalt
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lol true, but sometimes you get what you pay for 😉

sour shadow
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Except with Tuya, where often you don't even get that

hollow forum
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Hey @quartz cipher is this still working for you? I am having this issue too but my T1M is on the latest v26 firmware!

I noticed when connected to Aqara Zigbee dongle it doesn't happen at all, but if I pair it to ZBT-1 in HA it has the issues every 2-3 hours where it restarts! 🤔

quartz cipher
hollow forum
full anchor
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looking to buy zigbee wired light switches for the new house.
are there some good keywords to search for to find ones with motion + light sensors builtin? or any suggestions from you guys?

wild mortar
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The only ones I know of that have that for zigbee are from inovelli

grim igloo
hollow forum
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Have you figured this out? Software updates seem to work for some people, but I'm on the latest and still experiencing this.

wild mortar
grim igloo
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Wow sure does

quartz cipher
full anchor
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i thought these sensors in switches were more common

muted meteor
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I'm using ZHA and NOT any Aqara hub

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If possible, I'd suggest grabbing a multimeter and making sure the earth is 0 and make sure live is X volts relative to it (I'm in the UK so it's ~240V). My earth was floating when I had the issue before so live to earth was registering approximately half of the supply voltage when it should have been X (~240V)

trail aspen
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How to check what RF frequency zigbee I'm using? With zha

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Trying to add a zigbee device but it doesn't seems to be working

forest cobalt
trail aspen
forest cobalt
trail aspen
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I have 21 devices total currently, not sure how many routing

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Need to check

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A second

tropic depot
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What kind of device are you adding? And are you sure it is in pairing mode?

trail aspen
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11 router

trail aspen
tropic depot
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Manufacturer / model?

trail aspen
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Tuya with no model number printed on the switch

forest cobalt
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That's going to be interesting to troubleshoot, tbh.

trail aspen
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so how do I check the frequency?

sour shadow
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Channel?

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That's in the ZHA logs, maybe the debug output

trail aspen
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any sample output?

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I have debug on and don't seems to see any

sour shadow
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I don't use it - but you may find it in the channel history

trail aspen
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right, there is a diagnostic button

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it is in the diagnostic file

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for future reference, this is how to check zigbee frequency or channel

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diagnostic button is inthe zigbee home autiomation integration, in your integration entries next to the configure button, in the 3 dot menu

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and... I had the right frequency/channel

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it doesn't pair

sour shadow
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Almost all Zigbee devices support 11, 15, 20, and 25

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Most support everything from 11 to 25, many support 26, and a handful are channel locked

trail aspen
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it supports 11-26

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all of them

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it let me set the channel with a switch

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and I set it to channel 15

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since it is what showed in the diagnostic json

forest cobalt
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Wait... the switch let you set the Zigbee channel it's on with a dip switch? What kind of Tuya switch is this? Where did you buy it from?

trail aspen
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not a dip switch

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a rotary switch with an arrow

forest cobalt
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I've never seen a device like this ever. Can you post a pic of it using imgur? This sounds really weird to me.

trail aspen
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the rotary switch is something simiilar to thishttps://sc04.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1c2ZRgv9TBuNjy0Fcq6zeiFXat.jpg

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bought it from taobao

forest cobalt
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Ok. 🤔 I've never seen a device that has a select-able channel. TBH, I don't think there would even be support in ZHA for this thing without a custom quirk.

trail aspen
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the funny thing is, the product listing is in chinese but everything I got is english 🤣 , classic tuya

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how do I check if HA is seeing the device trying to pair

forest cobalt
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You can put ZHA into debug logging mode and then tail the log to see if it even sees it.

trail aspen
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any sample log of when it sees device trying to pair

forest cobalt
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Not that I know of, but if you tail the logs, you will see it pop up.

trail aspen
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like how obvious is it?

forest cobalt
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Uh, not sure, honestly. I don't use ZHA, but it does emit log entries when something tries to pair. So, I'd start debug logging, then put the device into pairing mode and then ZHA into permit mode. Then watch the logs.

trail aspen
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is it possible to see realtime log?

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grepping pair don't see anything

forest cobalt
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Yeah, with either a terminal session or using a keyboard/monitor hooked up to your HA instance.

trail aspen
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and it just dump thausends of lines

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what would the command be?

tropic depot
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Look for something like announce

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I don’t have equipment with me in the office so I can’t get the actual frames

trail aspen
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the word announce is not in the log

dapper seal
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Hi, i'm using zigbee2mqtt with home assistant and i have a problem with my blinds. The blinds sends to z2m the states "Close" (as in closing), "Open" (as in opening) and "Stop" as in not moving, but home assistant interprets it as the state of the blind (open as 100% open, close as in 0% closed and stop it ignores it), how do i change the behavior? and can i make the close, open and stop a sensor? Thank you

quick oxide
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Open is not opening 🙂

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It might be to the Chinese kid that wrote the software for the blinds.

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Makes you wonder, what did they use for open? 🙂

dapper seal
dapper seal
spare cave
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I've asked this before but didn't get much info. Are there ZigBee dev boards available that are good?

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Like I see esp32-c6. Is that decent?

hollow forum
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Aqara T1M issues

plush laurel
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Anyone got IKEA Badring to connect with deCONZ/Phoscon? Trying to add it as sensor but no luck..

forest cobalt
plush laurel
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should i use ZHA instead?

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easy to migrate all sensors, lights, switches etc?

forest cobalt
plush laurel
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haha 🙂 been running for about 5 years and never looked into whether there is a better way

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thanks, will check it out!!

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ddf seems a bit complex

forest cobalt
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True... but there are some really good changes coming to ZHA that blows deCONZ out of the water.

spare cave
forest cobalt
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Still better than deCONZ. lol

spare cave
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Lol

plush laurel
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maybe i should buy another zigbee stick and set that up with ZHA to make migration smoother. still conbee thats "best"?

forest cobalt
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You should and noooo, Conbees haven't been "best" for a long time.

plush laurel
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😄

forest cobalt
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If you want to go with a USB stick, SMLight SLZB-06 has one, but their SLZB-06 lan coordinator is better. Then, for the best, Tube's MGM24 coordinator is the top.

plush laurel
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hmm seems hard to get in sweden

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2-3 weeks from aliexpress..

forest cobalt
plush laurel
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wont even ship :/

forest cobalt
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Crap. Yeah, I can't help there. 😦

plush laurel
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but guess a couple of weeks wont kill me

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the M-version?

forest cobalt
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I'd go with the P7 version, tbh.

plush laurel
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no "matter-over-thread" on that one?

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whatever that means 😄

forest cobalt
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lol matter over thread is a whole other discussion. But, nutshell, Matter isn't ready for prime-time yet, imo.

plush laurel
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no hurry for that 😛

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stupid question, but if i understand correctly i can just plug it in to one of my routers with ethernet cable?

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dont need to plug in to my server

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just access it with ip from HA

forest cobalt
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Yup. Exactly.

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SO much better as you can move it as far away from interference sources as you need to.

plush laurel
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yeaaah

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but i dont have poe-routers

forest cobalt
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You don't need them. You can also power it over USB as well.

plush laurel
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power with usb as well i guess?

forest cobalt
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Yup

plush laurel
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cool

forest cobalt
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That's how I have mine setup right now. But I'm ordering a new one next week.

plush laurel
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having issue with a lot of aqara temperature sensors, perhaps an upgrade from my old conbee v1 would help 🙂

trail aspen
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PoE is very convenient, you can get a PoE switch if you do plan to install more Wi-Fi access points or other PoE devices such as cameras

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you don't need a PoE router, a switch will do

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most of the time PoE power will be from a switch

plush laurel
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true @trail aspen

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could i use my regular cat 6 cables?

trail aspen
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yes

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any 4 pair/8wire network cable works

plush laurel
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cool

trail aspen
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as long as it is compliant

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like, not randomly made cheap ones

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because those can cause voltage drops

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bad quality copper etc

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list some PoE devices I have
splitter -> ethernet + usb 5v
splitter -> ethernet + 5v barrel
1 cctv camera
1 doorbell
my wi-fi access point

plush laurel
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nah, try to buy "good" cables

trail aspen
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as long as it is a reputable brand then it should be ok

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I do plan to get a PoE display for Home Assistant and a PoE coordinator if Thread+Matter doesn't go more popular

plush laurel
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cool 🙂

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thanks @forest cobalt and @trail aspen!!

clever cedar
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Anyone having issues with z-stack 20240716? had to roll back to 0240710 but can't find the github repo for 0716 firmware to check and report, at least the link is not on the smlight UI

grim igloo
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we're not still suggested to stay on 2022 version or may 2023 version still?

trail aspen
mellow geode
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Not really, at the moment

trail aspen
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what about in the future?

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like, is it hardware issue or software issue

surreal harbor
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I am brand new to the zigbee world. I wanted to add some motion sensors and door switches to HomeAssistant. I purchased a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 Dongle-E with 3 Aqara Magnetic Door sensors. My house is only a 1200 sqft single story rancher. The sensors are connected but seem weak. I moved one out to my shed that is about 50ft from my house and I am unable to connect. The dongle is located in the center of my house. Just curious of settings i should be concerned about or if the Dongle is at maximum power. If not, I guess I might need a repeater or another dongle to connect to the sensors for my shed. Just looking for some adivce.

forest cobalt
surreal harbor
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Okay. I was thinking that may help. I’ll give it a shot

clever cedar
proud shale
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do y'all have any recommendations for PM2.5 sensors? I'm sturggling to get something which is under $200 OR is not 100% DIY (I am not opposed to DIYing, just trying to be lazy)

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(i guess wifi may also be acceptable, though I would prefer a zigbee variant)

tropic depot
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for zigbee I haven’t seen a ton of them. I have been leveraging them from my air purifiers and some AirThings monitors

quick hare
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Hey there! I was wondering if you had opinions on opening sensors, iv'e tried IKEA, Aqara, Konke but none of them seem to be really good. I'm looking for one that has exceptional battery life, fast, reliable, as standard to ZigBee clusters you can get, just the best. I seem to only find Philips Hue worthy of my money but their contact sensor is not available easily yet. Are there strong opinions on the new Sonoff sensor or 3reality? 🙂

tropic depot
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The aqara ones are the best IMO

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Sleek and batteries last forever

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What issues are you having with them?

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3Reality stuff has gotten a lot better over time. Their energy monitoring plugs are fantastic

quick hare
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If I have an electricity outage and the network goes down, they just don't join the network anymore until I re-pair them but I have the first version, perhaps new generations are better?

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I always taugh we had to stay away from Aqara.

tropic depot
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I have a mix of old gen and new… the routers on the network are the most important factor

quick hare
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Ahhh in my case it's almost 100% Philips Hue and Sinope.

tropic depot
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if they aren’t coming back on their own check what shows as their parent in the network

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old hue or new?

quick hare
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New.

tropic depot
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Def not an issue… I have many

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hrm

quick hare
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There's one thing i'll concede, Aqara is so responsive. Makes automations feel's alive. I've returned the new IKEA ones for this reason as well, they are so slow that it's painfull.

tropic depot
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yep

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Zigbee for the most part is like that though

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unless something is causing interference or the system is bogged down

quick hare
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Really? I always taught it was the devices fault as the network itself seem's really snappy.

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Ah you mean it's snappy in general.

tropic depot
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oh for sure some devices just suck 😃

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I just meant overall

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what type of coordinator/adapter are you using

mellow geode
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The Aqara E1 and T1 door sensors also have been solid. The old/global version is fine too

quick hare
mellow geode
quick hare
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I baught it when the HUSBZB was all the rage and the EFR32MG21 was barely supported yet. 😄

tropic depot
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The husbzb1 was a tank

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solid as a rock IMO

quick hare
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It was! If your network had no more than 40 devices. 😄

tropic depot
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I had 150 on it

quick hare
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whattt

tropic depot
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Yep

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sitting at about 200 now on the tube

quick hare
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Huh. I might have missed something.

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THe fact it did Z-Wave as well was pretty sharp.

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Z-Wave Plus even.

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What is the tube? 🙂

tropic depot
quick hare
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Ah ok yes! On the network?

tropic depot
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I have an MGM24

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and over usb

quick hare
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Ah ok I would have been surprised. 😄

tropic depot
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What are the sinope devices? Are they routers?

quick hare
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Yeah, Thermostats. I love them.

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The company is nearby from Montréal.

tropic depot
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I don’t recall any aqara issues with that brand… the only other thing I can think of is potentially bad child aging configs in an old ember firmware but that would only cause direct children of the coordinator to drop I think…

quick hare
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Got it, and that wouldnt be my case since there is no child at all on my coordinator.

tropic depot
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I got nothing

tropic depot
quick hare
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Sorry, do you want me to rephrase? My English is not perfect.

tropic depot
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No, I was agreeing

quick hare
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I guess i'll look at the T1 if I can find it on Aliexpress.

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Sonoff is a no then?

mellow geode
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Sonoff sensors have a bad reputation

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Maybe newer models are better these days, but I wouldn't try it 😄

tiny timber
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What contact/motion sensors will route easiest through IKEA/Hue routers. Alternatively, what routers will Aqara contact sensors reliably route through? Got a neighbour with channel auto-optimizing router who doesn't understand English and sick of re-pairing my whole setup on a different channel.

hushed vector
sour shadow
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Known to fall off the mesh at random, or just stop working

ionic locust
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it is safe to try a 6ft usb extenstion cable for my sky connect with HA Green?

sour shadow
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As long as it's decent quality, yes

hushed vector
sour shadow
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Search the channel history

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I'm sure their devices work fine with their own hub - and that's all they care about

hushed vector
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Actually no, HA has a high priority when they develop a new zigbee device

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Thx for the info, I will collect some feedback and talk with their dev

sour shadow
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Fingers crossed

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That's now in the drawer of shame

hushed vector
sour shadow
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Yup, tried the latest firmware

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My FP1 is stable - no problems

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The Sonoff wouldn't ever report clear, no matter what

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I understand how they work, I eliminated all possibility of some false detection 😉

hushed vector
# sour shadow My FP1 is stable - no problems

FP1 has a more expensive 60GHz radar, maybe that's why it makes a difference in your room🤦 I am using both FP2 and 06P, one for living room and one for bedroom, both work well so far

sour shadow
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I tried more than one room

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I tried it in a closed room, with no open windows or vents or anything that could move

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Nothing helped

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I find it hard to believe that the cheaper radar is that bad - given others can produce sensors that work using them

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(I even tried it in a big cardboard box, in a room with nothing moving, and that didn't help either)

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Hell, I left the floor it was in empty for half an hour and it still detected movement... in an empty room, with the doors and windows, and vents, closed...

supple roost
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I enabled Zigbee Home Automation logging, where is the log file located?
I have 1 zigbee device and every once in a while it dissappears from the network. (few Months this time) Does it log a lot? I might have to log for months to get to the point where it goes missing again.

lime drift
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Those presence/radar detectors can be difficult to "calibrate". It took me 3 days to configure my esp32 with ld2410c.

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Defaults values were not working at all...

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I'm pretty sure mine was detecting my neighbour ( or it's dog) through the wall

supple roost
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apparently /config/homeassistant.log

forest cobalt
limpid chasm
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I'm using Z2M with a CC2652RB stick, i send a mqtt publish message to a lamp to adjust its state (it remains off as intended) and put a delay of 600ms and then turn on the light. however i have noticed that sometimes these messages get mixed, so the light goes on and then the state is adjusted. i can increase the delay but this delay is already noticable.
Is there a better solution to this?
i want to prevent transitioning the light from the last state when turning it on. for example last state was red and i want to turn it on with green, it will turn on and transition from red to green. i want it to fade in from green to green.

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I've read that this behaviour might be better with ZHA with the 'Enable enhanced light color/temperature transition from an off-state' option with which i could remove the publish command entirely instead.

raw shore
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Whenever I screw a Zigbee lightbulb in one particular light socket in my hallway entrance, the bulb wont pair with my Zigbee coordinator. I changed light bulbs without any luck, I also noticed that the bulb gets super hot. Eventually I managed to setup the light by plugging it in a different socket and configuring it and than placing it back in the hallway socket but it is not reliable. What could I check?

tiny timber
grim igloo
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ill assume kill neighbor isnt an option - seriously not sure what good options you have here

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if you provide enough logs i'm sure puddly and co can help figure it out but if your channel utilization levels are super high idk man

lime drift
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Ask your neighbour to use WIFI 5Ghz ?? 2.4 is old school and too slow for him!

grim igloo
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re-read

tiny timber
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I'm pretty sure it's solely the fact that the Aqaras keep trying to connect directly to the coordinator rather than any of the router options they have (Hue lights/Ikea sockets). Hence asking if there's any decent alternatives for either.

tiny timber
austere patio
tiny timber
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Thanks, I'm aware of that. It will join maybe 1:20 times if I try to join via a specific router, and will never stick to that router.

austere patio
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What channel is your Zigbee network on?

tiny timber
tiny timber
austere patio
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That's your problem 😄

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It's not your neighbor's fault your Zigbee network is using an unsafe channel

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tiny timber
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Channel scan revealed that was the one with the least interference. I also forgot to mention that they're using multiple channel widths. So they were previously using 6+11, now they're on 1+6

austere patio
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Switch to 26?

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Or broadcast your own 2.4Ghz AP on channel 1

tiny timber
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That's not a bad idea, blast my own signal so his auto-migrates again.

austere patio
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I'm not sure how the auto channel selection algorithm works for WiFi but if it's based on just the number of APs, create like five SSIDs on channel 1 and it should free up Zigbee 15

tiny timber
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Will give that a shot and if that doesn't work will try migrating to 26.

austere patio
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Or help it along by iperfing over WiFi nonstop 😄

tiny timber
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Haha, I already have 4 SSIDs.

austere patio
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25 should also be a safe channel unless you're in a country that allows WiFi channels beyond 11

tiny timber
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I think 🇦🇺 follow 🇺🇸 pretty closely, so should be pretty safe. Will do a channel scan and see what it reveals.

austere patio
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Got a spare Silicon Labs coordinator (one that isn't powering your network)?

tiny timber
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Nah, using the Sonoff coordinator, only spare I have is the SkyConnect.

grim igloo
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IoT and trusted fuck guests ❤️

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seriously though the amount of SSIDs matters a lot

austere patio
tiny timber
tiny timber
grim igloo
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cameras can be vlanned off with no issues cuz no intervlan routing necessary so no dedicated wlan for them either

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(i went through this process myself as i learned that maybe some youtubers should stick to product reviews)

tiny timber
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Huh? You can have multiple VLANS in a single WLAN?

grim igloo
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we get real weird with it in unifi land

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i have mostly wired PoE cams but my wifi cams are on a camera vlan but still connected to my "trusted" wlan with firewall rules for that vlan

tiny timber
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Do you have a guide/tutorial for that (also live in Unifi-land if that helps).

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Would love to move them back to the trusted network.

summer pulsar
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I got a sonoff p dongle and set it up in z2m for my aqara relay and also decided to move my hue bulbs over to it, so far the aqara works fine (except the interlock mode which doesn't actually interlock) but all the hue stuff is nothing but problems.

  1. hue remotes just don't work and require a dozen presses to connect (in the same room as 2 bulbs which should be routers if i understand how zigbee works)
  2. hue bulbs respond to commands however they feel like it (do nothing, change brightness but not temperature, etc...)
  3. the bulbs are less reliable with the dongle than with the hue hub under my tv next to the wifi router

so far i tried flashing the updated firmware to increase antenna power, moving the antenna onto a wall, changing the antenna angle and used a extension cable on a usb 2 port.

should I give up and go back to the hue bridge (supposedly the remotes should work faster on z2m but they don't work at all so...)
the only thing i haven't tried is moving the channel from 11 to 25 because although the docs say I can do it with only re-pairing some devices, it crashes and says i have to re-pair every device (does it make enough of a difference to be worth trying)

grim igloo