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sour shadow
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Yes, the device decides when to send

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Some allow you to change the interval, some don't

frank robin
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where can you find out and set this?

sour shadow
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Not sure how you do that with ZHA, I use Zigbee2MQTT

grim igloo
frank robin
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What I also haven't managed to do yet is to display the total consumption of the smart sockets as in the TUYA app. Which would be the right room for the questions?

sour shadow
frank robin
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May I ask something else?

sour shadow
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As long as it's Zigbee related, sure, otherwise find the relevant channel that's not #general-archived 😛

frank robin
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still need a socket recommendation with power measurement for zigbee

ivory shuttle
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frient

sour shadow
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Also check out Innr, depending on where in the world you are

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Salus do some too

frank robin
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i think all is made in china

sour shadow
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Even if that was true (it's not), so what?

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Plugs that work for a US socket won't work in the EU, or the UK, or Aus, or...

frank robin
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im in EU Germany

ivory shuttle
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Frient and Innr are both european coumpanies. might well still be made in china but who isnt. Even apple is all made in china.

sour shadow
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SP 240 then

ivory shuttle
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likewise frient/develco do stuff in German socket (Develco is the actual OEM, and Frient is their inhouse brand, you can buy the stuff under either name, Develco are EU based, cant recall any remarks on packaging over where its made though)

sour shadow
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I've got one of their multi-sensors and it's pretty damn good - only downside is that it's not Zigbee 3.0

grim igloo
daring compass
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Or get some Lidl / silvercrest plugs. Rather cheap in germany. They are rebranded tuya devices, as most are.

grim igloo
ivory shuttle
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My sonoff temperature sensors however under zigbee2mqtt were hilariously unreliable, but been completely fine on ZHA for whatever reason, and my sonoff relay has been very reliable but never seems to want to act as a router, buuuuuut my homes footprint is small enough that this hasnt been an issue, there are multiple alternative non sonoff routes

sour shadow
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Funny, because ZHA and Z2M have no control over that 😄

ivory shuttle
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Ikr, though I had Z2M do weird things on a near daily basis

sour shadow
ivory shuttle
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Only reason to buy a tuya product is because you know its a reflashable tuya product and intend to reflash it

sour shadow
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There's some decent (enough) Tuya stuff out there - Moes usually for example

ivory shuttle
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My one moes device I gave a 1 star review

sour shadow
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Ooof

ivory shuttle
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It was bad enough to put me off ever touching Moes again

sour shadow
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Got one of their dials and it's ok, not awesome, but nothing's as good as the Terncy... so far

ivory shuttle
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I got a 2 gang light switch from Moes

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the build quality isnt great, it regularly misses button presses from its frankly awful to use buttons anyway, is real funny about pairing. Has factory reset itself a few times since I have had it, randomly decides to flip its own output state without my input (and has done so a few times after it had factory reset itself and wasnt paired anymore), and 1 of the 2 channels flickers

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I am in a no neutral scenario unfortunately. I wondered if the problem was the load as running some loads on no neutral can result in flickers

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So I swapped the outputs over

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Its not the load, its just whatever is on ch2 flickers

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If thats my outside lamp, then the outside lamp flickers, if thats the inside lamp then the inside lamp flickers

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Unfortunately, welcome to a 1970's british home. There is no neutral in our switch backboxes. So many good options with a neutral

sour shadow
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New builds are sadly no different

frank robin
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i'm partly desperate here nothing works neither the rubbish calendar nor the automation

visual owl
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Do you know if there are reprogrammable energy harvesting modules for custom switches? I would like a tri-state rocker switch (on - auto - off) without a battery and haven’t found anything ready made so far.

ivory shuttle
sour shadow
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That must be the local builder/sparky being smart

tulip torrent
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Does anybody know how exactly TouchLink work? I'm interested in a low-level details.

cinder island
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Hi to all of you, i have question Is it possible to modify or tweak ts011f smart plug watts update interval using zha

tacit hill
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What in wall zigbee outlets do you all recommend?

finite jay
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I think it's not supported. or am I wrong?

sour shadow
alpine badger
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since last week i have a lot of drop outs of my hue switches in combination with ZHA / Skyconnect dongle. Any clues how to diagnose for reason of dropout? (system worked perfectly for over a half year)

trim vessel
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I have the same issue. I found errors in the log, but I don't know what this means
requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: ('Connection aborted.', ConnectionResetError(104, 'Connection reset by peer'))
2024-02-21 22:08:52.622 ERROR (MainThread) [bellows.uart] Lost serial connection: ConnectionResetError('Remote server closed connection')
2024-02-21 22:08:52.625 ERROR (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart
2024-02-21 22:08:52.744 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.dispatcher] Unable to remove unknown dispatcher <bound method GroupProbe._reprobe_group of <homeassistant.components.zha.core.discovery.GroupProbe object at 0x7f809019a0>>

mellow geode
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What coordinator are you using?

trim vessel
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The SkyConnect Multi-PAN

alpine badger
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For me also HA SkyConnect

carmine hamlet
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the Multi-PAN part of that is actively discouraged

trim vessel
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Is it possible to disable it?

mellow geode
turbid helm
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I’ve recently added some repeaters to my zigbee network. How do I get my Aqara devices to connect to the new repeater that is 1meter away from it as opposed to coordinator that is on the other side of the house, two stories away?

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Oh. I think I just figured it out

grim igloo
turbid helm
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I was removing the devices from HA and re-joining them but they kept joining the co-coordinator. I didn’t notice there was an add devices via this device option on the smart plug. Adding it that way may have been what I should’ve been doing. Just confirming that now

grim igloo
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They can and will migrate to better routes if they’re zigbee 3.0 ones like the P1 but not the older models those like to chill with their first route

turbid helm
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Hmm…I must be missing something. My motion sensor doesn’t appear to want to pair with one of my routers. I think I removed the device from HA by removing it through the UI (the old trash can icon when view the device details) and when I start the interview process it succeeds but if I view the zigbee network in HA the diagram shows the motion sensor directly connected to the co-ordinator and not the router. The router is 1 meter away and the coordinator is 2 floors away. What am I missing?

austere patio
turbid helm
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Gotcha. Is there a way for me to check how it is connected in the meantime?

austere patio
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You can click the "refresh" button on the network visualization page and wait a few minutes, it'll re-scan your network

grim igloo
turbid helm
regal kite
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Yes, installed the Zigbee Home Automation in HA. Installation is fine, I can see the USB controller and the Smart Plugs and Motion Sensors. I just can't see if the motion sensors are detecting or not.

regal kite
regal kite
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Could potentially add neutrals depending on the route the cables take from the light to the switch and back.

river hatch
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Does zigbee expose a transmit power setting or how does it decide that?

sour shadow
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Do you mean ZHA?

river hatch
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just zigbee in general, I am using z2m and cant see a transmit power but if I knew the cluster name I can go through the dev console

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I work with thread mostly

sour shadow
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For devices, or the coordinator?

river hatch
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devices

sour shadow
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Pretty sure that's not a thing

river hatch
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ie I have some battery devices and I have mains routers near them so I want to turn their power down for battery

sour shadow
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You could check the specs to confirm

river hatch
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ok

sour shadow
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Devices pick what they need to do

river hatch
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ok so its not configurable in zigbee, they will dynamically decide on their power based on route cost?

sour shadow
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Based on ... however they were coded to behave

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You can't assume any standard behaviour

river hatch
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so its not in the standard?

sour shadow
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Even if it was, what makes you think manufacturers would care?

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Zigbee doesn't do standards compliance testing, it's not like Z-Wave

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Just look at the shit show that's anything Tuya, plus the fun and games of the original Aqara range

restive oracle
potent oar
austere patio
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@restive oracle @potent oar Will be fixed in today's beta

austere patio
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You get hit by retries much more, though. A sensor in a good spot will last for years. One in a bad spot with RF interference/background noise due to distance to parent will retry commands many times before receiving an acknowledgement, which drains the battery much faster

austere river
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First delivery of AliExpress Tuya zigbee sensors arrived today. My wife is gonna miss me.

analog olive
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Hi Zigbee lovers, i need desperate some help. i have an SLZB-06 als ethernet zigbee gateway, combined with HAOS and zigbee2mqtt. However zigbee2mqtt cannot connect to the adapter: as stated by logging: 2024-02-28T17:38:42.439Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter No path provided, auto detecting path

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zigbee2mqtt is configured like this it's running in HAOS as default module:

sour shadow
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What does the adapter section of the add-on look like?

rapid dawnBOT
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sour shadow
analog olive
sour shadow
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Yeah... that's wrong ablobjoy

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You just want the three lines under serial, not serial or the advanced section

analog olive
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ah right .. thanks, took me only two days .. 😐

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ah yes it works now, a lot of traffic is being shown in logging now ... thnx thats awesome!

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yessssss zigbee2mqtt works .... finally, im litterly crying now .. like a baby

grim igloo
vocal tree
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If you have 100+ devices on a channel, advisable to add a 2nd coordinator on a different channel for the chatty devices like energy monitors?

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And is there an easy migration path for that with zigbee2mqtt?

tulip torrent
vocal tree
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Stability/World Peace

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My zigbee2mqtt setup is a bit unstable currently, repeatably failing mid OTA updates taking up to 10000ms to actually get a command through

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I suspect traffic is high. I've just moved devices from seven seperate zigbee meshes onto one with z2m

tulip torrent
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Even for a typical CC2652P-type coordinator and a sufficient number of routers, even 200 devices is not a load that requires network splitting. If you observe unstable network, check for interference first.

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And, say, rolling OTA over ≈30 hue bulbs simultaneously should work without any problems. If not — upgrade coordinator, check for interference with 2.4G WiFi, and add moar routers.

vocal tree
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I've upgraded the coordinator as a bug was present in the previous firmware causing the coord. to hang

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Not sure how to check for interference though, I'm on channel 11, nearby WiFi Ap on 2.4 channel 1 shows high interference but I assumed that was the zigbee mesh

austere patio
vocal tree
austere patio
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Is your coordinator near any 2.4GHz interference sources, such as USB 3.0 ports or SSDs?

vocal tree
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on a usb extender, but I have four APs in the house on 2.4Ghz

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Most traffic on 5Ghz and 6Ghz... but a lot of 2.4Ghz only IoT

austere patio
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Move it around and see if things change. There are a lot of 2.4GHz interference sources that affect Zigbee

vocal tree
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Do I really need to repair to change channel? Some of my devices are inside the walls 🤦‍♂️

austere patio
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You can use the above CLI tool to change the channel, it's in the README

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Z2M, however, will not like that. You will also need to change the channel from 11 to 20 within your Z2M configuration file and in the coordinator backup file

vocal tree
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I've just done a coordinator backup using zigpy, got a CRC error (2024-02-28 19:46:14.282 d0f5a498-tzb-zigpy-cli-tools bellows.uart ERROR CRC error in frame b'673e877e' (b'3e87' != b'fdb1')). This an issue?

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can ezsp radio backups be trusted

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?

grim igloo
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we try to yell it from the rooftops here

vocal tree
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@sour shadow 😛

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I forgive you

austere patio
tulip torrent
grim igloo
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usually this is actually me telling them to yell at themselves

vocal tree
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WiFi & Zigbee

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But hey... we live and learn

grim igloo
tulip torrent
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Last year I bribed my neighbours' son with a cake and lots of mangoes. He secretly changed their WiFi channel to avoid interference.

vocal tree
grim igloo
thin zephyr
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I have Aqara Light Switches single pole and Plugs. My plugs provide a Power sensor with data but my Light Switches Sensor is always blank. Any Idea how to get this fixed?

mellow geode
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ZHA, right? Do you get events when pressing buttons?

hybrid tendon
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Hey team, a bit new to zigbee and I’m seeing a posts that talk about zigbee devices, then using zigbee2mqtt, is that really needed? Can’t you just go straight to HA via ZHA?

thin zephyr
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Everything works except power sensor on the lights. I have 4 light switches and none provide the power sensor data.

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I have two Plugs in the garage, one as a sensor and one as a switch for a vacuum. Automation turns the Vacuum on/off per the Poswer on the sensor plug.

mellow geode
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What switch model are they?

crimson lark
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Hello someone is available to help to debug my Z2M configuration please ? i don't understand why, but my devices are offline on Z2M. I'am using the conbee 3 it will be very nice to have some help 🙂

thin zephyr
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WS-usc03

sour shadow
rapid dawnBOT
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crimson lark
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Z2M LOG: Failed to ping (attempt 1/1, Read genBasic(["zclVersion"], {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":true,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (5)))

Z2M can't reach the lixee device:
https://imgur.com/a/7ZHikmE

bitter elk
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Hey folks, relative newbie here but I've done my best to find an answer before coming here. I switched over all of my IKEA stuff today from Home Smart to ZHA; everything went really smoothly at first with getting set up and recognized. When I started binding my remotes and devices again, the first (two lights in the same fixture) worked perfectly, but beyond that three groups of two (1 pair FYRTUR blinds with an open/close remote, 2 pairs of lights with one remote each) have not successfully binded. I've tried removing and re-adding devices, reconfiguring them, and creating groups and trying to bind that way. Anyone have any ideas? Thank you so much.

regal pumice
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@cloud swallow hey sorry to bother ya again strix, but wanted to thank you for the help before there, I was able to finish the relay light switch project, your suggested circuit worked perfectly and for the next one I ended up using a 3 button zigbee relay switch with neutral (red traveler was used as an additional supply) and the rest of that junction was used as an extention junction box for the load to one of the 3 main sonoff relays I was working with.

Here's some finished pictures.

Thanks again, learned alot.

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I'm using two automations per button

ashen bluff
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Imgur allows to upload multiple pictures to make an album.

regal pumice
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One that conditionly turns on or off the corresponding light across the room and another automation that updates the state of the that "scene" switch when toggling the other relays directly.

regal pumice
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Now that I've closed off one project ahaha I'm already struggling with another

grim igloo
bitter wave
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Has anyone had experience on troubleshooting GiEX QT06 Smart Water Timers? This one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004220714024.html
I paired it using ZHA, and it worked but only had the on/off switch instead of the other functions, then after a few days it refused to turn off, so I unpaired it and tried to re-pair it. It wouldn't re-pair, even though the light was blinking saying it was in pairing state.
So i tried uninstalling ZHA and installing Zigbee2MQTT, but it still won't pair. Any ideas on what to do?
Thanks

rapid dawnBOT
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@regal pumice I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
regal pumice
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For the main light, the common conductor is probably my load, and the other two return through the light fixtures to the house switch, if I can figure out which is which, I just terminate load to lout and branched supply from the pot light phase to the loadin and then the other two are for the l1 and l2 on my switches?

My brains about to fry, ahaha

Would really appreciate the help with this one.

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@cloud swallow sorry for the Bing and the annoying message wrapping bot, hopeful you might see a unique solution

sharp rivet
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i have no experience with it buit it looks doable. maybe try to make sure ZHA is fully uninstalled or that your pairing correctly or long enough or are close enough to a coordinator

bitter wave
hard swift
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Do i can set Transmit power of Sonoff Dongle-P coordinator to 20 ?
Thanks

elder surge
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anyone with skyconnent and ZHA start having connection issues after updating with core 2024.2.4 and OS 12.0 ?

cloud swallow
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as for automations, i haven't even got home assistant sorted. got to get machines upgraded first (still running ubuntu 18!) and before i do that, i need to get my custom scripting into git. all that's somewhat been on the backburner on account of demands of $dayJob, $secondJob and some of the volunteer stuff i do

mint hatch
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Hello, something went awry with my 11.5 install and the Zigbee sensor paired with Zigbee2MQTT, but didn't offer to rename to a friendly name. How can I rename 0xa4c1385ecf65906f Humidity to something else?

sour shadow
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Just rename it with the pencil icon

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Z2M never prompts you to do that

mint hatch
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Z2M did on my 1st and 2nd HA installs, offer a step where I can add a friendly name.

sour shadow
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in Z2M, not HA

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Z2M has never prompted you to rename anything

mint hatch
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However this 3rd install (after an install issue) didn't offer a friendly name.

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*Z2M

sour shadow
mint hatch
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Anyway, wherever the friendly name option appears from, I didn't receive that prompt this time after the Zigbee sensor was paired.

sour shadow
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You've always needed to rename manually in Z2M

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HA also never prompts you to rename, unless you mean you've changed the name of the device in HA

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(you should always rename in Z2M really)

mint hatch
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The Friendly name thingy was prompted after enable Zigbee2MQTT Bridge Permit join (near top right)

sour shadow
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Nope, you clicked the pencil

mint hatch
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Right now, I'm in Dashboard and see a pencil, different to your attachment.

sour shadow
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You also see the pencil in the device page

mint hatch
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Yes, I remember clicking the pencil as per your attachment on my 1st and 2nd installs of HA.

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However, I didn't see this page on this 3rd install.

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Therefore, I'm in a different page and seem to access the sensor on the Dashboard.

sour shadow
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Look at the Devices page on Z2M

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Or click on the device itself

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Then look at the bottom of the About page

mint hatch
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Ok, I found it...it was in OPEN WEB UI.

cloud swallow
cloud swallow
# rapid dawn <@282928940442451968> I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 l...

@regal pumice you'd need to draw a diagram. i can't readily picture the problem. as for "what is the load", that is where power is dissipated. one thing to be careful of is daisy-chaining loads. i'm not sure if that's what you're doing, but the possibility occurred to me.

some devices will cope with that under some conditions, but it's a possible fire risk and is very likely to be unreliable because one will limit the current available to the other, and the amount of voltage each will see depends on their respective "effective impedance" (which, in anything more complex than a bulb, is likely to be variable).

eg, couple of years ago, an electrician installed an over-mirror LED light/razor socket in the bathroom, but made a mistake in wiring. got it wired in series with a CFL light in the adjacent room. there was enough leakage current through each that each light worked and we were none the wiser until i tried to use my clippers, which did not like being deprived of the expected 230V AC! it also caused the light in the other room to turn on.

regal pumice
regal pumice
# cloud swallow <@282928940442451968> you'd need to draw a diagram. i can't readily picture the...

When it comes to daisy chaining loads? Nope I've never done that thankfully, I had a feeling that idea I expressed would have a similar out come to what you described.

I'll draw a messy diagram tomorrow and then take some pictures (not gonna use ibb.co again, thanks for the head up) been using that for years. 💀

In the end I might still need to pull new wires just to correct things, hoping to get your thoughts though before I do anything drastic.

keen merlin
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HA just updated the firmware on a dozen ThirdReality Zigbee devices. A few had to be restarted but it appears they resume where they disconnected. These were the first of my Zigbee devices that were updated by HA. NICE!

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I just noticed a bunch of Zigbee diagnostic sensors for the controller. Are those new, or have they always been there and failed to see them? Is there a downside to enabling these sensors?

mellow geode
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They are new. You can enable them if you want to debug issues with your coordinator/network.
There shouldn’t be a real downside to enabling them. Just another entity each.

keen merlin
ashen bluff
sour shadow
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E is only now getting backup support with the new experimental driver... migrations are a long way off

keen merlin
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I've always just used ZHA and haven't had any problems. What's the ZHA vs Zigbee2MQTT pluses and minuses?

sour shadow
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Z2M has nominally better device support, but more fiddly to set up. ZHA is part of HA

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Frankly, if you're happy and it works don't change - both work well

ashen bluff
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ZHA is also going down when you update/stop/restart HA. Might not matter much to you though.

keen merlin
austere patio
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Thanks for trying out the beta!

keen merlin
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HA beta's have been OK for me so far

mighty river
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Just trying to work out but does anyone know if ConBeeII works using a virtualbox install ?

sour shadow
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Yes, it works

mighty river
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I can select the USB device from virtual host but then the HA instance keeps giving me an error - im just trying to load the log now

tacit hill
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Any tips on naming devices? I was naming them "[room] [type]" so like "Nursery Motion" for the motion sensor or "Front Door Open" for a door sensor. But them trying Z2M instead it mentions naming/grouping devices with a slash like "nursery/motion". So it made me think about the names as I'm reading everything so theyre easy to find in the device filter list. I've also seen some people use the manufacturer name in the name as well .

ashen bluff
winged coyote
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Moving discussion here based on some feedback. Is anyone else having any issues with Inovelli Blue Zigbee Fan Switches? In the past, they'd go unavailable every once in a while, but would come back after I restarted HASS. But as of a week or so ago, they won't come back no matter how many times I restart.

Some details, if it helps:

  • I'm using Z2M, and have a total of 41 Zigbee devices connected, the rest work fine, and my 3 fan switches are not working.
  • I'm using a Sonoff Zigbee dongle, and I have a USB extension on it.
tropic depot
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Make sure the attribute reporting configuration took… not sure how to do this w/ z2m

regal kite
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Anyway to disentangle my Sonoff 3 USB adapter from HA? Now I can't start my HA Docker Container. I was trying to get Z2M working but kept getting Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0'. ttyUSB0 seems to be the correct device (and flashed it with the updated firmware for Z2M). Rebooted the NAS, now I can't get the HA container to run with the error: "Start container homeassistant failed: {"message":"error gathering device information while adding custom device "/dev/ttyUSB0": no such file or directory"}.

winged coyote
tacit hill
winged coyote
grim igloo
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Definitely shouldn’t be using the e with z2m dude

regal kite
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Mines a type P. I did flash it with new firmware but haven’t been able to get it working with Z2M. Is there a way I can at least get HA running again ?

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I don’t get why HA is referencing ttyUSB0. I had already removed ZHA before the reboot. No mention of ttyUSB0 in any of the HA YAML files

ashen bluff
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Check the addon config tab.

regal kite
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I can’t start HA so how could I access that ?

austere patio
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What does your Docker config look like?

regal kite
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For HA? I’m not using docker compose as I’m stuck on DSM7.1

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Old NAS, DSM7.2 not supported.

austere patio
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Something created a devices: - /dev/ttyUSB0:/dev/ttyUSB0 mapping for the HA container, this error is from Docker

ashen bluff
regal kite
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Yeah that’s where I’m scratching my head 😅😅😅.

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Docker logs show this reference to MQTT

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2024-03-01 00:41:20.484 WARNING (Thread-2 (_thread_main)) [homeassistant.components.mqtt.client] Disconnected from MQTT server 192.168.1.200:1883 (7)
2024-03-01 00:49:30.489 WARNING (Thread-2 (_thread_main)) [homeassistant.components.mqtt.client] Disconnected from MQTT server 192.168.1.200:1883 (7)
2024-03-01 01:02:04.664 WARNING (Thread-2 (_thread_main)) [homeassistant.components.mqtt.client] Disconnected from MQTT server 192.168.1.200:1883 (7)
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: stopping
Found 2 non-daemonic threads.

echo geyser
grim igloo
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experimental aka beta support, we actively try to save people from going down that road

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also, i'm not a zigbee protocol expert, but myself and others like/prefer the older/trusted cc2652p chipset that the P uses, not the efr32 based that the E uses

echo geyser
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Damn. I have the E. No issues yet, but I’ll keep that in mind if I run into any issues in the future. Thank you.

grim igloo
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for fun you could look at the logs and prove yourself wrong

tacit hill
grim igloo
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bruh

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literally read up 4 lines

tacit hill
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Yea sorry I was still reading down the history. Just saw. I'll check my logs and see if issues show up

mellow geode
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If you don't have any issues, then it's probably fine. zigbee-herdsman is getting a lot of EZSP fixes/changes still, so it's still "experimental", but it should already work fine at this point.

tacit hill
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I've had the E variant for some time and got it as a recommendation. So it is what it is.

sour shadow
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There's also a new EZSP driver, ember which should bring improvements

tacit hill
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That being said it does seem to be having issues updating firmware for my 2 3rd reality door sensors. I'll have to examine any errors in the logs

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Ok. I'll look that up

winged coyote
grim igloo
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Read up a bit maybe it’s less volatile now

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Still not something I’ll ever suggest or use myself

austere patio
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If people don't use it, it won't get better 😄

grim igloo
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If end users come to home assistant and have a bad time then that’s also a problem

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We sell people on ditching shitty proprietary bridges not testing beta stuff

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That’s a choice not something that should be forced on people for the greater good

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/me points to his open issues testing home assistant beta

sour shadow
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It's clearly tagged experimental, it's up to people to pay attention

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If they don't pay attention, or don't read, then that's not something the project can do anything about

grim igloo
#

There’s so much misinformation on YouTube and forums that’s out of a lot of people’s control even if they do their due diligence

sour shadow
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Of course, all the YouTube shills that push their favourite product have a lot to answer for...

grim igloo
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Word

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I only respect the ones that interact with the community not grift off of it

sour shadow
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Well, people should check the official docs, for any product. But clearly many people don't, because ... shrug

mellow geode
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Sonoff's naming scheme for these is also horrible lol

sour shadow
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Almost as bad as Tuya

winged coyote
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I'm having trouble getting Z2M to launch after flashing the firmware, so I may need to just bite the bullet, get the P, and repair every device

mellow geode
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Uh, what firmware did you flash?

grim igloo
#

Maybe you need to unplug stick and put it back in?

mellow geode
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You flashed MultiPan firmware?

winged coyote
mellow geode
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First, I wouldn't do that. Revert back to EZSP firmware.
If you really want to try that (which is more experimental than just using the dongle "raw" with Z2M), you need the "Multiprotocol" addon (like mentioned in the article)

winged coyote
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Yeah, I did install the addon, and configured Z2M to point to it

sour shadow
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Don't use multi with Z2M unless you want problems

winged coyote
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But yeah I'm actually flashing it back to EZSP now, it was out of date so maybe this will help

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Good to know haha

sour shadow
#

Hell, don't use multi-protocol at all unless you're happy to be at the bleeding edge, and maybe a little further out

winged coyote
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Well, I updated the dongle with the latest EZSP firmware and the fans work now!

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Thanks everyone for the help and discussion

tropic depot
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Honestly just don’t use multi protocol at all

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I know some folks had success with it but IMO it’s more problems than good rn

winged coyote
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Yeah tbh I had never heard of it, just came up on it when someone mentioned my controller may be the issue haha...will def steer clear

mellow geode
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IIRC I've even read that there are issues with Inovelli devices and the stock firmware on the -E dongle. The community flasher you used uses "better"/newer firmware that fixes some issues.

winged coyote
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Makes perfect sense, that was most likely my issue because I've had issues with the fan switches from pretty much day 1

grim igloo
winged coyote
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Indeed I was lol

grim igloo
# winged coyote Indeed I was lol

are you pairing them with the other inovelli product that sits in the ceiling to control 'dumb' fans with no traveler wire + a light on them?

proven mason
#

how long after a migration should ZHA start working? My zwave 800 worked after a couple minutes. the migration was to a new box using a full back and restore. i went from a cheap chinese nuc to a dell sff. i did not, at any point, change radios, everything is exactly the same
its cycling "initializing" and "failed setup" every couple minutes
the ONE VARIABLE is that i have TWO zigbee radios from sonoff, however, the second one is UNPLUGGED

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i have two because i was testing out z2m and only have one device on it. when i did this 30 minutes ago, it attempted to change radios. i shutdown, removed the z2m radio, and did another restore with only the ZHA radio plugged in

winged coyote
grim igloo
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i think im gonna switch to using all zooz double switches (zwave) in bathroom cuz the gang boxes already need to be replaced and this lets me go minus 1 gang due to it taking the place of two switches

mellow geode
proven mason
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ok!

#

@mellow geode is it fair to say that as long as i have a backup, im good? meaning specifically, let's say the zigbee radio died for whatever reason. in any situation, so long as i have a backup, i can do a restore and then a migrate? i dont want what happened before with the skyconnect where i had an incongruity of radio to IEEE. i did update both of my skyconnects and i do intend to migrate from the sonoffs to the skyconnect at some point. based on your reply to me, i assume this is true because that's whats ultimately happening

winged coyote
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Yeah, one thing I didn't think of ahead of time was separating things out oun my gang box. Unfortunately my bathroom fans have a built in LED on them, so when I turn on the fan, the harsh LED turns on too. I bet if I looked into it I could separate them, but I didn't feel like digging into the ceiling just yet lol

grim igloo
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Look up the model

mellow geode
# proven mason <@773609067264344105> is it fair to say that as long as i have a backup, im good...

Restoring a HA backup won’t change the network settings on your Zigbee stick (which is good).
But ZHA automatically keeps multiple coordinator/network settings backups which can be restored using the "Migrate radio" menu (you can choose whether to keep the settings on the coordinator, restore a backup, or wipe the stick and form a new network).
You can also download a coordinator/network backup from the ZHA config page.

#

When migrating to a SkyConnect again, just make sure it’s on a new-ish firmware version to allow writing the IEEE multiple times

finite osprey
#

Is by any chance anything broken in core 2024.3.0b2 related to Zigbee? I've already had a couple instances of all my zigbee devices being offline... (I posted this in #beta but maybe it was better I posted here... never know since it is a beta & zigbee question what takes precedence)

grim igloo
finite osprey
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yes

grim igloo
#

no idea nvm

#

not many reports of things broken on b2 yet but also hasnt been out long

tropic depot
finite osprey
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ok

#

I found the zigbee stick in "initializing" mode last time around

#

had to reboot to restore zigbee

past hare
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I'm trying to update my Third Reality contact sensor 3RDS17BZ firmware thru Zigbee2MQTT web UI OTA tab...it fails and it says device didn't respond. Do I have to put the contact sensor into pairing mode for the OTA update to go through?

austere patio
past hare
dense badger
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Disregard. Troubleshot and my extender was the issue.

mellow geode
grim igloo
mellow geode
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Depends on the end-device. Maybe a couple of seconds, but probably not 30

grim igloo
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I mean from zha

mellow geode
grim igloo
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Crap lol

past hare
past hare
mellow geode
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Try repeatedly open/closing the sensor whilst pressing the update button (if you didn't do that already)

past hare
#

I've done that too after trying a one time open and close 😦

#

I guess it's not really that big of a deal, I just dont like seeing that notification next to my Settings lol

#

Appreciate the suggestions nonetheless!

grim igloo
past hare
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Being a HA noob, I was about to say something stupid but okay yeah I see what you mean, disable the update entity for it...good idea! Thanks!

#

Sweet, thanks ya'll!

grim igloo
#

Sorry I was gonna expand and got side tracked

sharp rivet
#

Found another board I’m interested in.. KC868-A32 ESP32 Development Board

#

Looking for the right channel for this tbh

grim igloo
quiet sentinel
#

I've got what I thought was a light group in zigbee2mqtt but it no longer seems to identify as a light anymore. Is there a way to verify status on group objects?

regal pumice
#

Just ran into a silly situation

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One the the machine screws on my zigbee relay modules just fell out into a vent

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Can't recover it

#

Anyone know what kinda replacement screws exist, that might fit in general?

ashen bluff
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That's way too vague. Measure it, show a picture, perhaps state the device.

regal kite
grim igloo
regal kite
#

Yeah totally. They just make the automation chips. We used them in the Silvercrest devices

sour shadow
rocky kernel
#

Hi, I'm not sure if I'm at the right place to ask a question but..
I'm using Ikea Dirigera hub, and written som C# code using a library to fetch statuses for different devices, like humidity and blind state etc.
I want to track these and save to my own db, does it matter how often i fetch the statuses from the dirigera hub? I mean battery wise, is it draining battery the more often i call, lets say if i update every 10 seconds, or 1 minute, does it matter?
I know the title of this thread says if you use some other hub you can't really give answers, but I suppose zigbee battery drain is same regardless of which hub/method you use to interact with your devices?

sour shadow
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The hub won't be asking the sensors for new values, the sensors push those when they want

#

TL/DR: You can poll every second and it won't impact battery life

rocky kernel
sour shadow
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it has to, because you can't poll sensors

#

HA behaves the same

rocky kernel
sour shadow
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You want to read up on the difference between end devices and routers

rocky kernel
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Thank you

dusky flint
#

Hello, I've got channel utilization of 93%, is that considered too much?

keen merlin
final kestrel
#

Aqara Dual Relay Module T2 looks really nice

#

looking for something for all of my wall switches

grave ginkgo
#

What is the best way to publish data from my Zigbee devices (which I use via Z2MQTT) to another MQTT broker on my internal network?

sour shadow
#

Bridge the brokers

austere patio
keen merlin
main ruin
#

I run close to 90 on a shared channel with a hue hub close by. Id probably only start to worry about that when stuff starts acting up, until then it's not something that needs to be addressed

#

It may very well depend on how many devices you have around

keen merlin
#

Move you coordinator to Channel 25 to minimize interference by Wi-Fi which is Zigbee's biggest enemy

grim igloo
#

also dont you eu folks have chicken wire in the walls effectively limiting interference from further distances?

keen merlin
grim igloo
main ruin
#

I don't think so

#

This may be something for multi tennant housing

keen merlin
grim igloo
carmine hamlet
keen merlin
#

Talk about problems. I was involved in the design of radio devices limited to 0 dBm, 1 mW, FCC part 15. They would have never worked in chicken wire walls

ivory shuttle
#

That article also mentions it being done in the US

#

Heck, the study area was San Francisco

wet swan
#

hello guys, can somebody help me to find the issue with my z2m ?

limpid chasm
#

Not sure if i am asking in the right channel but i'm looking for a led strip to use with Z2M, so i need one with a zigbee controller but i want it to specifically support the transition functionality, how do i begin to look for this?

wet swan
# wet swan hello guys, can somebody help me to find the issue with my z2m ?

i have only recently started with HA, so i certainly lack the experience. i have worked through various tutorials but as of now my z2m cannot find any devices. so i wanted to check with you experienced people to see if the messages from the log indicate an error. mosquitto says this over and over again although the detection of new devices is off:
2024-03-01 19:45:18: New connection from 172.30.32.2:50448 on port 1883.
2024-03-01 19:45:18: Client <unknown> closed its connection.

sour shadow
#

That's got nothing to do with Z2M "finding" devices

#
  1. Did you enable pairing in Z2M
  2. Did you set the device into pairing mode
  3. Is the device in range (no more then 6 to 8 meters and one wall) from the coordinator
wet swan
#

paring is activated
the device has been reset and is located directly next to the coordinator
the coordinator is not within range of a wifi router or similar
I have already changed the wifi channel so that zigbee can work

coarse nova
#

hey guys not sure where to ask but i have a question about connecting device with zigbee and other things like tuya and stuff i have a vm running home assistant and for now all i got was 2 chromecast but im plan on buying smart lamps and stuff but no clue what i need for tuya lamps or zigbee its all a bit confusing with zigbee having more then just one protocol? if anyone could give me a little run down would help out alot

austere patio
rocky kernel
#

my devices in zigbee has an "id" property, are these hardcoded or will they get a new id some time? let's say if theyre out of battery for a long time or i move/restart them, etc.

long flume
#

In z2m. I have a wall dimmer in detached mode, and some lightbulbs. I want to control the bulbs using the dimmer wheel + on/off. I can link them together in HA automations but its a bit buggy and unresponsive. Is it possible to bind the dimmer to the bulbs right inside zigbee2mqtt? I cant figure out the bind functionality

snow mulch
#

i added my hue dimmer switches via z2m, when trying to get them into homekit via HomeKit Bridge it gets really buggy...

#

the order they are shown in homekit is random aswell... starting with button 11 in this example

grim igloo
#

my understanding is that the homekit bridge needs to be rewritten completely and we're just stuck with what it gives us

lofty kindle
#

In Z2M what does state_action actually do? It says 'State actions will also be published as 'action' when true (default false).' From my understanding it exposes the state to HA?

Doesn't it usually do this by default, or am I missing something here?

potent dock
#

hey, anyone here has an ikea Somrig zigbee switch. I just got two and I can't get them to pair. In fact they don't even seem to boot as I can't even make the built in LED blink pressing the pairing button, but the chances of me getting two faulty units seem vanishingly small, so maybe I'm doing something wrong?

grim igloo
#

that or it's a brand new product

potent dock
#

well,yes, it's a button

grim igloo
potent dock
#

THANK YOU!

#

How come nowhere in the instructions was mentioned that you have to press the pair button 4 times? I tried double press, pressing 3s, 5s, 10s. What psicopath decided that a button hidden inside a device needed exactly 4 fast presses?

grim igloo
#

ask ikea?

#

lol

#

idk the directions on z2m are all from end-users

#

so they are real-world tested not whatever they did in a lab or got sent to marketing and chewed up and spit out the other side

potent dock
#

I know that ikeas was to blame, and also me because I didn't even consider that z2m would page pairing instructions for each device on the docs

#

I blame a guy named Lars

#

for sure

jagged estuary
#

Hi, can anybody recommend me a shutter actuator that works with Z2M? Currently looking at one from Nexentro. Is that good or..? Thank you in advance!

grim igloo
#

"remote switch"?

#

a zigbee bound switch or remote will still control a light or w/e if you choose to use zigbee binding

#

no

#

but yes if you bind it instead assuming both devices have the same cluster (i think)

mint hatch
#

Hello, I'm a HA noob and have a Zigbee temperature sensor working, but yesterday the Zigbee temperature has frozen on 23.59 degrees centigrade. Is this typical? I guess I'll reset the Zigbee device, but I am curious if this is a thing or not?

grim igloo
#

Which device? Is it far away from your zigbee coordinator?

#

Do you have mains powered devices on your mesh?

mint hatch
grim igloo
mint hatch
#

Zigbee sensor: Tuya WiFi Zigbee Temperature Humidity Sensor Thermometer Hygrometer Smart Home

grim igloo
#

Please watch it

mint hatch
#

Zigbee coordinator: SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus Universal Zigbee Stick Support Home Assistant

grim igloo
mint hatch
grim igloo
#

With your current setup it sounds like interference to to usb ports and possibly other interference

grim igloo
#

You also want to escape a network or server rack, move away from APs, SSDs..

mint hatch
grim igloo
#

That’s fine just not like next to them

mint hatch
#

Everything is Cat 6 except the Zigbee sensor.

mint hatch
grim igloo
#

Also no usb 3.x for interference

mint hatch
grim igloo
#

He provides great customer service but I won’t tag him on a Saturday night just for fun lol

#

He open sources the design if you want to build one

mint hatch
grim igloo
#

If I didn’t put a space it would notify him like @mint hatch

#

Generally considered bad discord etiquette unless needed

#

But yes hes a person I think

#

Possibly an android haha

#

My point was you can get help from him here if something is wrong

mint hatch
#

Ok, thank you, that's been really helpful, just what I needed as noob feeling a bit lost and unsure of things 🙂

grim igloo
#

Ya it’s overwhelming but honestly super simple just a lot of steps

#

It’s not like math turning into calculus it’s just a shitload of terminology and little things

regal pumice
# cloud swallow <@282928940442451968> you'd need to draw a diagram. i can't readily picture the...

Finally got some pictures and a diagram, excuse my mobile drawing skills 🤭

Grey is white and "main" refers to the main lights, "pot" refers to a set of pot ceiling lights.

I want to add two separate relays to J1 "Junction 1" and a low voltage "dumb" paddle switch at J2 "Junction 2".

Using the same 2 gang iot relay design as last time.

Couldn't get imagur to work so went with this site.

Diagram - https://postimg.cc/F7qZfjyP

Pictures - https://postimg.cc/gallery/8kJFRxt

grim igloo
carmine hamlet
#

How are you going to lick the wire if it's buried in the outlet?

grim igloo
#

both black (line or load) and neutral are exposed

#

that would fail inspection faster than a.. idk too late for my wit i guess

#

also this should be pretty straightforward but between your beautiful mspaint drawing and the back and forth i'd rather you just just explain what you are trying to do here (fresh)

regal pumice
# grim igloo https://imgur.com/a/jyojE4N picture 2 this is very unsafe btw

Yes I absolutely noticed that too 💀 that was not my doing, blame the fella the original owner had renovate the garage into a room.

From what I was told he had his 14 year old brother do it, guy claimed to be a electrician from Germany, I can assure you he was not an electrician just by looking at his work, everything doesn't follow color convention, white is the phase and black is the "load", poorly cut back stabs and this one set of conductors looks as if it's missing romex 💀I'll do my best to correct it without re running it, but if it gets to that I'll do it too.

grim igloo
#

yes you should really open up every light switch and outlet and then sleep better at night

#

most of my shit isnt even grounded (or wasnt until i redid it)

#

yeehaw texas laws in 1980

regal pumice
#

Mine looks grounded?

grim igloo
#

i never said it wasnt

regal pumice
#

The main issue I see is lack of romex on this one drop

grim igloo
regal pumice
#

Other then the obvious

grim igloo
#

are you talking about the jacket

regal pumice
#

Yea

grim igloo
#

or the overall length of the cable? or?

regal pumice
#

No the jacket

#

It looks missing

grim igloo
#

There is a code minimum, 1/4", but no maximum. It could be argued that leaving most of the sheathing on is poor workmanship

#

quarter inch isnt much so you're probably okay

#

but you should watch the youtube video i showed and use pigtails and (ideally wagos)

regal pumice
#

I thought the jacket must protect the conductors within the wall?

grim igloo
#

no the jacket is so the (entrance to) the gang box cant damage the wires

#

especially necessary for metal boxes and i'm just a nerd please consult an electrician or read the book

regal pumice
#

Only be cut at the junction to expose the conductors ponder

grim igloo
grim igloo
elder surge
mint hatch
#

Hello, I just added a 5 metre USB extension between this computer (running HA as a KVM) and the Zigbee sensor. The computer recognises the Zigbee sensor, but HA doesn't. I've checked the KVM appears to still passthrough the same USB details as previously. (previously the sensor worked for a week, but stopped, so I'm trying with a usb extension).

#

I'm considering removing the previous KVM USB passthrough and re-adding the USB passthrough.

#

Ok, looks like removing and re-adding USB passthrough may have fixed it.

river grotto
#

I gave up on updating the firmware of my Raspbee(1) and ordered a SkyConnect. I read the migration guide, but that looks specific to Conbee and Raspbee2. Would my best route be that I remove devices, Deconz Add-on, GPIO board and start anew? Thanks in advance.

mint hatch
#

I just added a USB extension to my Zigbee coordinator, but the Zigbee temperature sensor is still reporting the same data of 32.59 degrees centigrade?

#

Power is blinking in red at 3%, however it is still power, so the temperature should still adjust right?

dense zenith
#

Setting up a bunch of Hue bulbs in HA today. What is the best approach for groups, so I can controls sets of bulbs together, adjust color temp and brightness together etc. Is it best to create "groups" in the Zigbee2MQTT interface? Or use the 'helper' in Home Assistant to create a group? thanks

ashen bluff
dense zenith
#

Oh right, so it looks like the Zigbee2MQTT groups tab is a front-end to the YAML that you could manually edit.

#

I was going to make a 'helper' group in HA, and set it to 'hide' the members of the group. That way I don't see my individual lights, just see the group name.

#

I guess I'll just give it a try and see

#

(A lot of the stuff about groups seems out-of-date as it looks like HA improved the group management via the GUI in recent releases)

chilly meteor
#

I would like to create a scene with thermostats from Aqara E1, but I get:

Failed to call service scene/turn_on. must contain at least one of temperature, target_temp_high, target_temp_low.

Does anybody had smiliar problems? It seems missing/wrongly implemented quirk in zha-device-handlers, but I haven't found any related issues yet. I use zha.

grim igloo
#

That or you passed thru to the vm wrong

austere patio
elder surge
odd mango
#

hi

#

I use zigbee2mqtt. It works well. However I have two devices who report state as "unknown" in lovelace, but they are reportink OK-ish in the z2m itself

#

when click, they actually control the device, but state is still unknown...

odd mango
#

also how do I upgrade frigate version on LXI?

carmine hamlet
grim igloo
#

Let him cook i gotta know what an lxi is

mint quail
#

something weird did happen after the recent update of HA: zigstar coordinator became unavailable. Url is still the same (socket://uzg-01.local:6639), I can telnet here (and see some garbage) but HA can't initialize ZHA properly

#

tried to delete & re-configure ZHA too - in this case it just hangs, I mean HA keeps showing popup

#

but can't finish configuration

#

any hints on troubleshooting?

austere patio
mint quail
#

will try, thanks

austere patio
#

I would also restore to a backup from before you deleted ZHA. You'll lose all of your entity customizations even if you get it working again.

mint quail
#

I had backup but it seems to be 'missing key'

#

so losing network I guess is ineviable

austere patio
#

You won't lose your network settings, just device names

mint quail
#

hmmm, interesting, after powering off, waiting for 10+ sec and powering on HA auto-detected it and asked to configure

#

so I guess powering it off made some diff

#

now I'm trying to recover from previously 'bad' backup - now it doesn't say its bad, but keeps spinning popup

#

how much time should recover procedure take?

#

hmmm, there is still something wrong... can't get it configured even now

#

any other ideas?

#

should I re-flash zigstar or something?

austere patio
mint quail
#

sure, but as I said, popup never disappears

#

so not clear how to disable logging

austere patio
#

You'd have to remove it from your config and restart Core

#

It'll be in your main home-assistant.log file

mint quail
#

wowow! finally it finished 'configuration'

#

and even recovered my network!

austere patio
#

When setting up ZHA again, did you restore the network settings from the last backup?

mint quail
#

nope!

austere patio
#

ZHA backup I mean, not HA backup

mint quail
#

I selected 'keep existing settings' or something

#

making backup just in case 🙂

#

thanks again! still not clear why did 'configuration' took so long, but 10sec+ power off did the trick!

austere patio
#

It should time out after 10-20s so that may be a bug. If you get it to happen again, send me a debug log and I will take a look

#

Glad it works again

mint hatch
#

Hello, not sure if this should be in zigbee or ha? I deleted a zigbee sensor, but the entities stays in the dashboard? I re-added the same sensor which shows the new entities in Devices & Services, but the new sensor doesn't show on Dashboard, just the old sensors with error: Entity not available: sensor.humidity

storm ibex
#

Can anyone help me with this. I have a smart plug and after moving from ZHA to Z2M, the current power use shows up in the diagnostic section instead of the sensors.
Its detecting correctly, but just weird that its in diagnostics :S Is this a setting I can change somewhere in Z2M?

carmine hamlet
#

Does it matter which section it's in?

storm ibex
#

Only stops it showing on the overview page which shows all the sensors, just means it has to be manually added to a dashboard

compact forum
#

Hi, I am trying to add a Tuya device quirk (for TS0052), I found the generator, and testing it in HA indeed found it, but now I get a DEBUG message. (I'm sorry new Discord user, how do I format code here?)

2024-03-03 22:46:28.190 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Considering <class 'ts0052.TS0052DimmerModule'>
2024-03-03 22:46:28.191 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Found custom device replacement for a4:c1:38:4a:f5:04:91:84: <class 'ts0052.TS0052DimmerModule'>
2024-03-03 22:46:28.191 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] Unknown cluster 0xE000
2024-03-03 22:46:28.191 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] Unknown cluster 0xE001
2024-03-03 22:46:28.192 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] Unknown cluster 0xE001

Is this normal, or am I doing something wrong?

manic plinth
#

Do you have to repair every device if you migrate HA to a different device using a backup?

grim igloo
manic plinth
#

It would indeed

#

Thanks for the answer, I'm glad I don't have to do that

manic plinth
rapid dawnBOT
#

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grim igloo
manic plinth
#

Ah yeah that seems a lot simpler 😂

#

The magical powers of a Discord bot

grim igloo
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only if you know the commands to use

mellow geode
# compact forum Hi, I am trying to add a Tuya device quirk (for TS0052), I found the generator, ...

That's expected, as the replacement only contains the cluster id for those custom clusters, right?
(Tuya didn't follow standards and put those custom clusters outside of the manufacturer specific range.)
You can use the custom Tuya clusters like TuyaZBE000Cluster and TuyaZBExternalSwitchTypeCluster in the replacement.
For the signature, you can keep the id or use (e.g.) TuyaZBE000Cluster.cluster_id.

I'd probably need more information regarding your device/quirk (what you want to do/what isn't working) for further questions/help.
Also, quirks v2 is currently being worked on.

compact forum
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It's 2-ch dimmer module. ZHA recognizes only the switch parts, so I can't dim. Trying to implement that.

rapid dawnBOT
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@ripe osprey I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
mellow geode
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There might already be a quirk you can use (and just drop in the new model info). Perhaps there's even an issue in the quirks repo about that.

compact forum
grim igloo
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julian do you know if the hue led strips are unable to turn on without first going to previously set brightness value? my hue bulbs do not do taht but i have no overpriced hue led strip to test with

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in the past havent you said it's the same inner workings for all the newish gen hue stuff?

ripe osprey
mellow geode
# rapid dawn <@227495790539571201> I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 l...

@ripe osprey
Doing this will briefly flash color_temp_kelvin: 6410, before switching to xy color. Is there a way to bypass this issue for these hue lights?

That's normally expected ZCL behavior, as lights won't process color change commands while off by default. Newer Hue lights (Zigbee 3.0) can do that though by setting one bit in the options attribute on the Color cluster.
It's called execute_if_off. Google that a bit. ZHA automatically detects when the attribute is set, but not sure about Z2M.

grim igloo
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what's the cutoff for zigbee 3.0 on hue lights btw? past 5 years or so or?

mellow geode
# compact forum ``` MODELS_INFO: [ ("_TZ3000_kvwrdf47", "TS0052"), ]...

The 242 is a Zigbee Green Power proxy endpoint. Doesn't really matter.
Looking at Z2M code for that light, it uses some special Tuya light stuff. I thought we have some Tuya light quirk for that too, but can't find that right now.

Z2M also usess a "Tuya magic packet", so EnchantedDevice should be used for ZHA (instead of CustomDevice). "Magic clusters" are also needed though. (This will be solved once the Tuya quirks are migrated to quirks v2)

It might not be trivial to support that dimmer.

compact forum
mellow geode
mellow geode
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Any reason why you're asking this? (Did I miss some question?)

grim igloo
grim igloo
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just getting info to store in my head

mellow geode
grim igloo
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i have no rgbw hue bulbs or strips so i wasnt aware of that behavior

mellow geode
# compact forum Ok, any due date for v2?

Not really, but the "base code" is already done and will land with HA 2024.3.0. We just don't have many examples yet.
Quirks v2 also won't magically make your device work. For the Tuya quirks, it'll mostly allow us to simplify the "magic packet" stuff slightly at first (named "enchanted/spell" in zha quirks). The quirk generator also isn't really needed anymore, as the base for the quirk no longer needs to match all clusters.
You can already use v2 quirks on HA 2024.3.0 betas. The next one will contain more (needed) fixes for quirks v2 though.

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I think your best bet is to create an issue about your dimmer and provide as much info as possible in the issue template.
With your current custom quirk, try to change the device_type from switch to dimmable light in the replacement section and see if that makes any difference.

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But Tuya explicitly doesn't follow Zigbee standards, so it doesn't work by default. It's not fun to make all those Tuya lights work.

compact forum
mellow geode
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I haven't seen your device signature, but you can also try to just add a LevelControl.cluster_id in the replacement section (assuming there isn't one already).

fleet knoll
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So I have sky connect & a controller but I have no idea how to connect it. Add device keeps searching and nothing shows up. This is what I was told to get for my ZHA setup.

Any suggestions?

https://a.co/d/3bPokMU

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It’s powered. It’s lighting up my strip. It’s functioning but won’t show up when I search for device

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UPDATE: I’ve restarted the device and put it into pairing a few times. It wasn’t working. Tried it a few more times since posting and it FINALLY connected

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Is this a normal thing when first connecting zigbee controllers?

elder surge
balmy fossil
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Is there a way to re-pair a ZBDongle with a router firmware without reflashing it?

timber hollow
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Hi, did anyone get the Viessmann ViCare Climate Sensor working with z2m? Besides the LQI all measurements are empty. The sensor works fine in the ViCare app.

candid burrow
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Hi, can I found here someone with Danfoss Ally thermostats? I have two, everything works great, except the window feature. Automation for switch between window_opem_external works, the valve change the value to true or false when window is opened/closed, but the internal value does not change. After reboot the valve, it one time changes to quarantine and then back to closed, but if I try it again, nothing happens. Firmware is last available.

compact forum
elder surge
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hello. unique queston. i have an aqara contact sensor in my mailbox. when my zigbee network goes down for awhile, it seems like the sensor gets past a certain point of "trying to reach out" to connect, and shuts off until i go out and re-pair it. looking for any suggestions around this. so far its only happened when my zigbee network glitches out and all devices go offline, causing me to reboot home assistant to fix the issue. im wondering if setting an attribute differently in the cluster might help? unsure. the device is totally fine and has an RSSI level of -50 to -60 so its not like range is a problem.

austere patio
frank marten
elder surge
ancient hare
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I'm having lots of issues getting over to Zigbee2MQTT from just using ZHA and other things but getting lots of errors trying to get it started, which has confused me even more now! I have posted in the community to ask in there so I will post the link so I don't have to keep trying to explain the issues! I have to test mostly during the day so I can go back to what is working for me now! I have a lot of Sensors in ZHA to do automatons which I have to turn off to see if MQTT will start. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/error-while-starting-zigbee-herdsman-failed-to-start-zigbee/425830/64

austere patio
elder surge
austere patio
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That's the integration. What coordinator stick?

elder surge
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skyconnect

austere patio
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Are you using multiprotocol?

elder surge
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is that matter support?

austere patio
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It's Thread support on the same radio. If you're having problems with devices going unavailable, disable it.

elder surge
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what is doing the Matter integration then?

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because i am using Matter

austere patio
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The Matter integration 😄

elder surge
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i dont understand

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isnt the skyconnect the radio for that

austere patio
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Matter can work over WiFi or over Thread. If you have Matter devices that use Thread, you need a Thread border router on your network (e.g. Apple HomePod or Google Nest Mini). If you don't have one, you can use a SkyConnect. The firmware that enables you to use the SkyConnect for both Zigbee and Thread is not stable and will result in issues such as the ones you're seeing.

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So you will have a much better experience getting a dedicated border router device and flashing your SkyConnect back to Zigbee firmware.

elder surge
austere patio
elder surge
austere patio
elder surge
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Im not sure how the nest hub even got on there

austere patio
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If it's on your home network, it'll advertise itself as a Thread border router

elder surge
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so the skyconnect is trying to do zigbee and thread/matter whatever at the same time and sucking at it?

austere patio
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Sure, you can say that

elder surge
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it doesnt say i have any thread devices

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but i have some matter ones

austere patio
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You won't have any listed Thread devices. They'll either be Matter or HomeKit. What Matter devices do you use?

elder surge
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right now its my switchbot hub

austere patio
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That's Matter over WiFi so you don't have any devices that use Thread

elder surge
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im confused are thread and matter the same thing or is one a newer version of the other

austere patio
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They're different. Thread is like low-power WiFi for sensors. Matter can use WiFi (or Ethernet) or Thread.

elder surge
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i see

languid sky
elder surge
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I don't have problems every day. And I don't really want to setup all my stuff again..

austere patio
# languid sky ditch ZHA -> switch to Z2M -> random "unavailables" gone i don't how long it is...

There's nothing fundamentally different between ZHA and Z2M that would make devices more or less available with one versus the other. The only major difference is that Z2M always forms its network on channel 11 while ZHA dynamically picks its channel when you first use it (and avoids 11 if possible). Switching integrations also forces you to re-form your Zigbee network, which often times results in people doing it "the right way" by joining routers first, then end devices to the strong mesh.

Multiprotocol issues are with device firmware, they'll still happen just the same.

languid sky
# austere patio There's nothing fundamentally different between ZHA and Z2M that would make devi...

I removed ZHA integration entirely, wiped out the dongle-p stick, tried different coordinator firmware versions, re-paired all the devices more times than i can count. nothing changed. constant problems. random "unavailable"s is one of my favourites.

installed Z2M -> i did nothing but just add new devices from then. and they all "just work".

i don't know what's wrong. i don't need to anymore 😉

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17 days with no issues 😄

elder surge
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I have zha set to c26 atm

austere patio
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You can but the vast majority of "I switched to Z2M and my Zigbee devices stop going unavailable" issues are because Z2M uses a Zigbee channel ZHA does not

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The rest are solved by people re-joining their devices better or because they're running HA on an underpowered server that is overloaded and there are serial communication issues with the coordinator

proven river
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I have 30+ devices using ZHA for over a year. No issues. It seems a logical fallacy to use anecdotal evidence to suggest someone just redo everything.

languid sky
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I've checked my current Z2M config -> it is channel 20 -> and it was channel 20 in ZHA as well.

languid sky
austere patio
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It's not a matter of CPU utilization. If you have a ton of integrations installed or some heavy periodic task running within HA Core, it'll impact the event loop, which affects integrations that are especially timing-sensitive. Z2M runs as a separate process and won't be impacted.

The point being that every situation is very different. Unless you figured out why switching helped you, offering it as a suggestion because "doesn't work" is common to both situations is not good advice. And in this case, it would do nothing because multi-PAN issues are coordinator firmware issues.

languid sky
ancient hare
short sandal
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Not bothered looking at z2m. Zha works great for me; 72 devices. Most of the major manufacturers and some randoms.

ancient hare
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yes I was thinking the same thing until I wanted some Aqara Blind to try to get some one to put up fo rme only to relize it needs MQTT to get into Ha I though I could of done it using ZHA!

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So i will see if I can get it to run fo ranother week then send the Aqara device back to shop!

short sandal
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I have four Aqara blind motors working with Zha.

ancient hare
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so why will mine not detect then?

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detects in Aqara app ok but not in ZHA

short sandal
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Button 5 times? IIRC. I never installed the app.

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You have a nearby router like a light?

ancient hare
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yes i foound it to be 6 secs 🙂 but ZHA did not detect it and I need there app to get other things in!

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i have a lot in medical to get to work!

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Its teh Roller Shade Driver E1

short sandal
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I have a bunch of Aqara stuff. Motion sensors, temp sensors, water sensors. Never installed the app.

ancient hare
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even taking it out of Aqara it still does not detect it

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yes I do and none work in HA all in there Apps is terrible fo rAutomations why I rather have them in Ha

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Hav eyou tried there FP2 it needs there hub and needs Apple to get it into Ha

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I have sensors all work ok in ZHA

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but this blind i snot going into it why I think very strange!

short sandal
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FP2 is mmWave? Not tried that. Been happy with my EP1.

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I assume you have moved the blind motor near the USB radio.

ancient hare
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im right next to it to install it

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restarte Ha too

short sandal
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Sent you a screenshot of the blind motor in ha just to prove it can work. Like I said I have 4.

ancient hare
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no need to prove anythign I can also do a million videos to show you it wont detect!

short sandal
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Well fine.

ancient hare
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I have some one coming tomorrow to fit an dmeasure for blinds ans I will be sayin gsorry I cannot let you do anythign until I have a motor working!

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if you say it work I belive you! I just cannot figure why mine wont detect it!

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I had light strips did they say thing left it 3 weeks tried agian and they worked Ha is so buggy!

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also not sure how you sent me a screen shot I cannot see anything

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Im off to try to sleep as I never get any with being a type 1¬

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elder surge
austere patio
elder surge
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I'm set to 26 currently because I'm using 1,6,11 on my APs lol

languid sky
austere patio
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What's in your config file?

grim igloo
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i'm pretty sure it still defaults to 11

grim igloo
languid sky
grim igloo
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Turns out the zha maintainer knows more than us

elder surge
grim igloo
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read up

fleet knoll
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I have a GIDEALED Zigbee 3.0 LED Controller Pro. I’m no expert, but I think it’s not the right choice.

grim igloo
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Oh you bought an analog controller?

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You just need one with a data channel output but if it want r g b that isn’t gonna work

fleet knoll
# grim igloo Oh you bought an analog controller?

I know what analog is. I now know what controllers are. But I don’t know which is which or how to specify what I want when purchasing lol
(very new, but going to school for HA! In may though, but I’m excited now lol)

fleet knoll
grim igloo
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No it’s not recommended to buy random zigbee stuff

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Gledopto sells one that is recommended here

fleet knoll
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Yeah, that’s why I wanna double check with y’all this time lol

grim igloo
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I personally use wled Wi-Fi controllers with advanced effects vs zigbee ones

fleet knoll
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I might look into that in the future, but for now I’m not an ‘advanced’ user.

grim igloo
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Simple users like advanced effects lol

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It’s not difficult

fleet knoll
fleet knoll
grim igloo
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It’s pretty straightforward but there might be a video tutorial online if you want to see what you’re doing before you do it

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You’re pretty much just connecting vcc to red (power), gnd to white (ground) and data to data (green) assuming standard ws2812b wiring colors

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And this has a built in microphone to react to music which is fun

fleet knoll
grim igloo
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Watch a video by Quindor or drzzs to see what people do with wled. The zigbee one would be like ‘turn blue’

fleet knoll
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But for the boring parts, like kitchen or restroom or stairs, do you suggest any zigbee controllers for addressable lights? I tried looking for them on that site & a quick google search with the same key words but I legit cannot find ANY. 🤔

grim igloo
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I’m a wled fanboy you’ll have to see if someone else jumps in

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But the gledopto pro does

fleet knoll
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lol makes sense now. But I appreciate the link you sent. I’m definitely getting a WLED setup going once I save up some extra cash xD

grim igloo
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Analog led strips have much higher CRI rating which is preferable for kitchen etc

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Aka the white color looks better

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But I have a disco kitchen and I’m happy enough with it

fleet knoll
grim igloo
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It’s a rabbit hole have fun. You prob want 12 or 24v for most things due to voltage drop. Read up on Quindor’s website or videos

fleet knoll
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Thank you. I’m excited but also scared because of how much I’m gonna spend xD

elder surge
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as long as the AP broadcasting 11 on 2.4ghz is furthest from the coordinator there's nothing wrong with using channel 25. you're supposed to use ZLL channels like 11/15/20/25 only

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Same thing I said above

elder surge
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yeah sorry im confused because i said i am using 26, youre saying 25

grim igloo
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Idk what else to say

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Is Channel 26 a ZLL channel? No? Then you shouldn’t be using it

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As far as why read up on si website

elder surge
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its not?

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how would i be able to use it if its not a channel

ancient hare
# short sandal Well fine.

I finally got it to detect after 3 days of trying and 3 days of messing, not at all sure why it does this, I think once you try to do it in Aqara APP it prevents it from being detected in Home Assistant for a while. With me, it's usually a day or so even rebooting does not make it detect it! but not fully sure, as I have only had this happen to me twice. But for other Sensors that I know I just wanted them into HA I had no issues with them being detected. I had a good sleep for a change and attempted again this morning. Thank you for the image which I found this morning! It would be better if both could be used Aqara APP as well as Home Assistant so if one fails it resorts to the other. I'm also not sure how to set its ranges with not having it installed with Aqara App so would be helpful if you can share the setup way. I have some curtains on a track that I have had for 3 years and not failed once! that is what is should be like! https://imgur.com/KV7HIsu

smoky anvil
elder surge
smoky anvil
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Zigbee has no real enforced industry standards, vendors have not adaptod it.

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Well not all.

elder surge
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how do you know its nonstandard then?

smoky anvil
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Good luck!

indigo crane
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hi guys, i have a sky connect stick connected to my HA (running as VM) until a few days ago everything seemd to work fine but now only a couple of parasol door contacts can be "seen" as only a couple show the battery status but in general all zigbee devices seem to be unresponsive - restarting HA did not change anything

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i have a couple of ikea items (the door/windows contacts, a starkvind air filter, a paulman rgb light, a couple of (livarno or sivercrest - anyway lidl) devices such as plugs and motion sensors as well as one ikea plug

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i am really losing my mind after this was the first time i had it working and now pretty much everything is gone

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when i try to reconfigure the zigbee devices home assistent sends me "mixed signals":

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apparently i can not just add picture/screenshot here?

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and yes i am using zha

rapid dawnBOT
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@indigo crane Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

indigo crane
proven river
short sandal
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If you need a hand with your automation for it let me know. I have one that follows the sun, but with limits. Don’t want them to open in the summer when the sun comes up at 5am, etc.

ancient hare
# short sandal Hey there! Glad you got it working in the end. To set the range… erm look at the...

yes be great for help and advice on it as to get blinds fitted in the first place is a big challenge as very tight area and position as tiles are fitted and no room really for a drill bit! but Im super DIY er for 50 years but just need to get my head around it first then mess with the other issues I might face, do you know of an electric drill the does 90 degrees bend 😉 not sure they invented that one yet 🙂 companys are not wanting to get involved now! I will also try to video it and do a write up if I can get time too, but need to make sure I do it right

short sandal
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Maybe best to move this to messages. 🙂

austere patio
indigo crane
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They are listed but do not respond to commands

austere patio
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Is your SkyConnect on a USB extension cable?

indigo crane
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it is

austere patio
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Near any USB 3.0 devices or SSDs?

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Do you have any Tuya mmWave sensors or Tuya plugs with power monitoring?

grim igloo
grim igloo
austere patio
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They send data continuously at 3 packets per second

grim igloo
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are all the moes tuya ones in this same category?

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beautiful

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bdraco helped me find an issue on my esphome yaml (caused by esphome code change) that was doing 6000 calls per 60 seconds and using lots of airtime fairness on my wifi. that was fun times 8 plugs

analog nacelle
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Hello, is this the right channel to ask about https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/adapters/#recommended ?
I am running HAOS inside a VM on a synology NAS.
I am now needing to get zigbee2mqtt as I purchased a 4 button switch and I cannot fully configure inside HA due to the entity not updating from the last push of either single_click, double_click, or press.

I was looking at Slaesh's CC2652RB stick.
Do I want coordinator or router?
Do I need to request the pin head? (It says required if developing custom firmware - Is what I am doing classed as that or not?)

*edit
I've been informed I need the coordinator and no need for the pin heads.
Leaving this here in-case someone finds it via search.

ripe osprey
mighty sage
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I'm getting very poor signal to my Zigbee devices upstairs --> Anyone know of a device that I can put between my stairway wall light and the main house power that could act as a zigbee extender/router?

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I already have a zigbee router at the bottom of the stairs, and the next relay is at the top of the stairs (and inside the room a little bit), so I'm thinking the next best thing is to put something behind a wall light to help the hops.

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Maybe this? https://www.amazon.com/Sparkleiot-Wireless-Controller-Compatible-Assistant/dp/B09K5B8SK4/ref=sr_1_12?crid=14WEL1G93FMML&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BikVKmjnpQI3Fxr55QA-r-V6I95Lc5HFemDitSRuS73XnA3kRC3wb_0Og9k_3CjimSqNQmP6HGLg43a-DeJdYZfcNSVydhz9skqqtRe7YmWKlzEonRkLPETGu-DfS_KldtTJhTfUEDw4Q_tQpTTbFu9fecqreKUG9upuUIP2sJM6EDg2NoS4kIkJJsupVRBfC_cbT6ONkZzW1rPa0zXQ-TQALyPBZteEKEDw-amljLYqsEvBEXbz-gQt_DThDSYctp0XqgIziKKRyo9NmciLh0XCaea1JjVC-cjHhX70aas.-Onrh5ldECXdY5s9btdgpBhi1LTF2dmFcJfg41jLS9M&dib_tag=se&keywords=zigbee%2Brelay&qid=1709674320&s=industrial&sprefix=zigbee%2Brelay%2Cindustrial%2C123&sr=1-12&th=1

ashen bluff
grim igloo
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It’s the cvs receipts of Amazon links

indigo crane
tepid gorge
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How experimental is zigbee2mqtt for Silicon Labs EFR32MG2x series of adapters? Having trouble finding a TI based controller on the main swedish web sites at the moment.

rigid wagon
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Hi. Can anyone help me add a device to zigbee2mqtt? I followed the docs how to add support, but the device still shows nothing different.

It's a promising device that has a pir sensor, a mmwave and a illuminance sensor, and runs on batteries. Z2m also shows its a enddevice, not a router. Which hopefully makes it a device that does not spam, and therefore has huge potential to be a cost effective device (just 20 euro incl shipping)

But yeah, need some help from community to see if and how it works 🙂

shy hornet
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Hi good morning. how many limit for smart light bulb connect to zigbee strong enought?

rigid wagon
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I made a .js file as the docs tell me to, and linked to it in configuration.yaml. and restarted z2m. But the device still shows nothing.

rigid wagon
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super great news, it doesn't seem this is a spammy device. it sends a message only when it has something to update it seems.

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now lets hope the mmwave is also accurate, and hopefully as a bonus the light sensor is good to use.

rigid wagon
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any idea what the mmwave and pir might be of the following lines of the device?

Debug 2024-03-06 17:42:25Received Zigbee message from '0xa4c13857d998b93d', type 'attributeReport', cluster 'msIlluminanceMeasurement', data '{"measuredValue":34547}' from endpoint 1 with groupID 0
Debug 2024-03-06 17:42:29Received Zigbee message from '0xa4c13857d998b93d', type 'commandDataReport', cluster 'manuSpecificTuya', data '{"dpValues":[{"data":{"data":[3],"type":"Buffer"},"datatype":4,"dp":101}],"seq":16896}' from endpoint 1 with groupID 0
Debug 2024-03-06 17:42:41Received Zigbee message from '0xa4c13857d998b93d', type 'commandDataReport', cluster 'manuSpecificTuya', data '{"dpValues":[{"data":{"data":[1],"type":"Buffer"},"datatype":4,"dp":101}],"seq":17152}' from endpoint 1 with groupID 0
Debug 2024-03-06 17:42:42Received Zigbee message from '0xa4c13857d998b93d', type 'commandDataReport', cluster 'manuSpecificTuya', data '{"dpValues":[{"data":{"data":[0,0,9,216],"type":"Buffer"},"datatype":2,"dp":106}],"seq":17408}' from endpoint 1 with groupID 0
Debug 2024-03-06 17:42:42Received Zigbee message from '0xa4c13857d998b93d', type 'attributeReport', cluster 'msIlluminanceMeasurement', data '{"measuredValue":34014}' from endpoint 1 with groupID 0```
rigid wagon
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only seems it does the datapoint 106 and 101, and the cluster 'msIlluminanceMeasurement, which doesnt contain a datapoint.

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no idea how to make something from that. im afraid it doesnt report battery.

dreamy drift
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From 2024.3 release notes:

After feedback and reports on the automatic Zigbee device firmware updates introduced in a previous release, this release brings a stricter and more robust update system to ZHA. Thanks @dmulcahey & @austere patio!

What does this mean? What has changed?

austere patio
dreamy drift
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Compared to 2024.2

austere patio
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FAILED doesn't mean a whole lot. Can you create a debug log of you trying the OTA update?

dreamy drift
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It's not my post but I had the same issue. I'll have to see if I can replicate it on 2024.3

icy olive
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Hello all, I have attached an Ikea Tradfri Shurtcut button to HA with a SkyConnect dongle; logging shows individual keypresses but both NodeRed and developer tooling event snooping show that every keypress leads to ~5 nearly-identical (timing only differs) events. Is this expected and do I need to debounce the keypress? Or is there something odd going on?

shrewd crypt
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Anyone know how to fix my GE Lamp Dimmer in Z2M? When controlled via a Scene Activation, it doesn't turn on...

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A scene can turn it Off but not On

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@mellow geode helped me with this in zha

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Make and model are Jasco Products 45852GE

mellow geode
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Sounds like the issue where the device doesn’t respect the "turn on/off" part of a "move to level with on off" command. Z2M (or you) would need to send a "on" command before the "move to level" command

shrewd crypt
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Should I open an issue in the gh repo?

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Might just move it back to zha since I understand that this device likely doesn't route my aqara sensors

austere patio
icy olive
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Hmm, the Logbook of the device also shows 5 events per single physical button press, the same as with the 5 zha_events

austere patio
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Try 2024.3.0

icy olive
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Alright, going to update

icy olive
rigid wagon
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Damn i thought people would be excited about the device i bought. Guess not

austere patio
icy olive
austere patio
icy olive
ember night
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I have one tradrfri button that I sometimes found to act more than once on a single press. It's too rare to tell that this is gone now that I am on 03 but good to know that this may have been caused by a known and now fixed problem!

dreamy drift
icy olive
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0x23015631 here, so the same

dreamy drift
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Latest firmware is actually 0x24040006 (I just got the ZHA notification). Let's see if the firmware upgrade works this time

#

I read Zigbee firmware upgrades can take hours so I'll check back later. From what I read firmware upgrades for this specific button greatly improve its stability and performance with its Blueprints.

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Nope ZHA upgrade is still failing. Where can I provide logs?

austere patio
dreamy drift
austere patio
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The whole log would be useful

dreamy drift
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Alright I sent you.

austere patio
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The error alone isn't useful. Enable ZHA debug logging, retry the update, and disable it again to get a log

paper gale
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Ikea tradfri open/close remote in Zigbee2Mqtt

rigid wagon
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hi. would anyone care to help to add a new tuya device that can be awesome for the HA community?

long flume
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I have a few smart plugs with energy measurement in zigbee2mqtt. But throughout the day I get these crazy high spikes. Any idea how I can fix it? Apparently I have the latest firmware. The plugs I have are these ones https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/4512766.html

ivory shuttle
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If you need even more powerful filters than that. Errm. Esphome maybe? Importing the sensor entities and re-exporting them filtered is something esphome can do, but sticking to what HA can do alone is handy

long flume
ivory shuttle
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By any chance, it's not reporting about 650V at the same time it does that is it?

long flume
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Im not sure. My other problem with it is that it doesnt report voltage and amperage to HA. I can only see them live in the exposes tab in z2m

placid raft
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So I have a zigbee 20A EU plug where my water boiler is in which is drawing 2600w. Whenever I turn off the plug, the boiler LED's start blinking like following before going completely off: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SYkZBCZqrEFS6SrG9
When I just pull the power cord out of the socket, the thing just shuts off and doesn't blink at all.
Can anyone tell me if this is bad for the boiler?

dawn thicket
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Hello,
I need some assistance with an MHCOZY 2 Channel Smart Relay Switch, was informed this was a Zigbee device in #hardware-archived.

I am pretty sure I have it wired correctly for default On/Off mode as a smart controller for 2 different devices.
I use the SmartLife app with this device as it is an app that I already use with various other smart plugs.
I have setup the timer so that Switch 1 will turn on 3x/day for 15 minutes (controls water pump for plants). Switch 2 is configured to turn on in the morning and then turn off at night (light for the plants).

I have found from a discovery this morning though, that when Switch 1 turns off after the 15 minutes, it turns off both switches. However, using the SmartLife app to turn Switch 1 on then off, does not affect Switch 2 nor does using the manual Switch button.

My guess is this may be a wiring issue? But if that was the case, wouldn't the app and manual button also affect Switch 2.

I have Relay mode set to OFF and no INTERLOCK settings either.

Currently to get around this, I have now set Switch 2 to turn on 1-minute after Switch 1 turns off throughout the day.

sour shadow
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Are you using this with Home Assistant, or are those timers etc features of the switch, or SmartLife?

dawn thicket
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They are features through the SmartLife app (can also use Tuya instead).

sour shadow
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Well... we can't help you with those

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This isn't Tuya support I'm afraid

austere patio
placid raft
#

I cannot reverse because in the socket because my wall receptacle has ground pin

strong lotus
#

Omg, this is the second time I managed to destroy the whole SQLite database by adding and removing zigbee devices.

austere patio
strong lotus
#

The one home assistant is using

austere patio
#

What are you running HA OS on?

strong lotus
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A VM

austere patio
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SQLite is pretty resilient, you would need to have some really serious issues to actually break it

strong lotus
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In both cases I added a zigbee device, removed it and added it again

placid raft
strong lotus
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(sqlite3.IntegrityError) FOREIGN KEY constraint failed
[SQL: INSERT INTO states (entity_id, state, attributes, event_id, last_changed, last_changed_ts, last_updated, last_updated_ts, old_state_id, attributes_id, context_id, context_user_id, context_parent_id, origin_idx, context_id_bin, context_user_id_bin, context_parent_id_bin, metadata_id) VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?) RETURNING state_id]
[parameters: (None, None, None, None, None, None, None, 1709828749.724248, 145220436, 13599132, None, None, None, 0, <memory at 0x7f3ed8e1d9c0>, None, None, 1139)]
(Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/gkpj)
2024-03-07 17:25:50.192 ERROR (Recorder) [homeassistant.components.recorder.util] The system will rename the corrupt database file //config/home-assistant_v2.db to //config/home-assistant_v2.db.corrupt.2024-03-07T16:25:50.192827+00:00 in order to allow startup to proceed
2024-03-07 17:25:50.249 WARNING (Recorder) [homeassistant.components.recorder.entity_registry] Cannot migrate history for entity_id sensor.tz3210_qkj7rujp_ts0201_humidity to sensor.thermostat_ts0201_2_humidity because the new entity_id is already in use
2024-03-07 17:25:50.259 WARNING (Recorder) [homeassistant.components.recorder.entity_registry] Cannot migrate history for entity_id sensor.tz3210_qkj7rujp_ts0201_temperature to sensor.thermostat_ts0201_2_temperature because the new entity_id is already in use

#

Luckily, I have a backup only 4h old...

austere patio
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That shouldn't ever happen unless the database file is itself damaged. What kind of storage backend is your VM using?

strong lotus
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A harddrive

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But I really think this is a software error, because in both cases I did exactly the same thing in HA and I had no other issue whatsoever with my storage.

austere patio
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It's always possible but corrupting the main SQLite database is a really serious problem and I've not heard of any other non-isolated reports of this happening recently

#

So double check your storage just to be sure

strong lotus
#

I would have considered this a one off, but it happened twice to me with the same steps.

austere patio
#

ZHA doesn't have any knowledge of or access to the HA database directly so you should be having issues with other integrations

strong lotus
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I have no other integration where I tried to add and remove and add the same device rapidly

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2024-02-19 13:05:41.750 ERROR (Recorder) [homeassistant.components.recorder.core] Unrecoverable sqlite3 database corruption detected: (sqlite3.IntegrityError) FOREIGN KEY constraint failed
[SQL: INSERT INTO states (entity_id, state, attributes, event_id, last_changed, last_changed_ts, last_updated, last_updated_ts, old_state_id, attributes_id, context_id, context_user_id, context_parent_id, origin_idx, context_id_bin, context_user_id_bin, context_parent_id_bin, metadata_id) VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?) RETURNING state_id]
[parameters: (None, 'off', None, None, None, None, None, 1708344337.701534, None, 13065864, None, None, None, 0, <memory at 0x7f3ec5176a40>, None, None, 1108)]
(Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/gkpj)

#

Same FOREIGN KEY constraint failed problem, I saved the old log just in case this is reproducible

#

SMART is claiming my storage is in good state

#

If you think this is not zigbee specific, where should I report this?

#

@austere patio

austere patio
#

Try running an extended SMART test first. If that comes back fine, you can try the Core issue tracker: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues. Make sure to fill out the issue template completely and include all of your hardware, hypervisor, and software information.

dawn thicket
sour shadow
#

TBH the assumption is that you'll only be in this server if you are using HA - lots of Tuya stuff connects to HA through the Tuya or SmartLife integrations

strong lotus
austere patio
#

Do you mean the other way around?

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Not really, Zigbee is extremely low-power compared to WiFi

rigid wagon
#

thought more people would be interested in a zigbee mmwave+pir+lumen sensor that doesnt spam the network.

compact oak
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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-03-07 18:22:34: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-03-07 18:22:34: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-03-07 18:22:34: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-03-07 18:22:34: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-03-07 18:22:34: Error: Failure to connect
    at Ezsp.connect (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/ezsp.ts:373:19)
    at Driver.startup (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/driver.ts:163:13)
    at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29)
    at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:62:27)
    at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:109:27)
    at start (/app/index.js:107:5)
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I restarted ha and it gives me this error in the zigbee2mqtt log

fresh summit
#

What are you running it on? USB?

compact oak
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USB Coordinator with extender usb

fresh summit
#

What is the zigbee stick connected to? 🙂

compact oak
#

usb

fresh summit
#

you connect your usb stick to a computer, to a nas or to a Raspberry pi?

compact oak
#

ah

#

sorry

#

raspberry pi

sour shadow
#

And you didn't flash it with the multi-protocol firmware, or enable multi-protocol?

#

(or enable the Sonoff or ZHA integrations)

fresh summit
#

can you ssh into it and see the USB-stick connected to your PI?

compact oak
#

Yes, but I think I did something stupid. I was flashing a d1mini via raspberry (esphome) and I think it 'caught' the coordinator.

#

I promptly disconnected it

sour shadow
#

Re-flash it and pray?

placid raft
compact oak
#

but will I lose the devices?

sour shadow
#

No

#

(well, probably no)

#

But... if you already partially flashed it then you're already screwed 😉

grim igloo
#

if so that has no effect on the zigbee hat (picturing a tubes here)

frank robin
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SONOFF SNZB-02D Attribute Updated event was fired

#

what means it

sour shadow
#

ZHA?
Zigbee2MQTT?
deCONZ?
Something else?

frank robin
#

ZHA

#

how and where can you set the report intervals of the sensor under ZHA ?

#

another question what exactly does the message mean or can it be ignored?

frank robin
#

pair device new have the name of entität change ?

#

before i update HA entität name was sensor.sonoff_snzb_xxx now its SONOFF SNZB-02D xxx

frank robin
#

but before that I had trouble with updating the temp data on HA

#

is the sonoff snzb-02d not good ?

tropic depot
frank robin
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SONOFF SNZB-02D Attribute Updated event was fired

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but i dont understand what it means

tropic depot
#

I need to filter those from logbook

#

It’s a side effect of the OTA updates in .3

frank robin
#

Is the message a problem or can it be ignored?

minor hedge
#

anyone here familiar with aqara water leak sensor not being paired with Z2M?

sour shadow
#

Which one?

#

Are you following the standard Aqara advice?

minor hedge
#

But tried short press, 5sec press, even longer

mellow geode
minor hedge
#

the light goes on for a few sec, starts blinking, when i hold longer is strats blinking faster

sour shadow
#

Got a bunch of them, all paired fine

minor hedge
#

one time is paired but was not able to fully pair and failed, i had to remove it

sour shadow
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However...

  1. My routers work for Aqara
  2. I used the option to pair only through a nearby router
  3. My Zigbee stick is on an extension cable
  4. My Zigbee channel is clear of WiFi
  5. I put fresh batteries in problem devices
minor hedge
#

i could try fresh batteries

#

do you use z2m?

sour shadow
#

Yes, though it doesn't matter for pairing

#

99% of Zigbee behaviour is far beyond the ability of ZHA or Z2M to have any influence over

minor hedge
#

can you set the zigbee channel in z2m? because i havent checked that

sour shadow
#

Yes, you can

#

it's even documented 😛

#

The default channel is usually terrible

minor hedge
#

i also use an extension cable

#

but i think maybe the channel could have effect

sour shadow
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Just slightly 😉

minor hedge
#

also, do you remember if the LED on your water leak sensor stopped whenever you stopped holding the button?

#

they stop blinking immediatly whenever i let go, both of them

sour shadow
#

That sounds right

minor hedge
#

okok

sour shadow
#

Yes, and you can also do it in the UI

#

Changing the channel requires you to re-pair everything

minor hedge
#

yea i read that

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but cant find it in the ui 😛

#

nvm, got it, channel 11

fading briar
#

I've got several items in my logbook that have the ZigBee logo and say <zigbee bulb name> Attribute Updated event was fired. What does that mean?

#

They're not at all clickable for more info...

mellow geode
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It means that an attribute was updated in zigpy cache, most likely the current_file_version because of OTA stuff.

#

Those should be filtered out in the future. You can ignore them for now.

junior viper
#

Hi all, think I might have some issues with one/more bulbs at home. I have one IKEA LED1732G11 in my lamp on my driveway, that bulb has ~190-230 LQI, which should be more than enough.. however, my night-turn-off-light won't turn off the light, and I cannot turn it off from Z2M either. How come the device fails to turn off when the LQI is so good? 2024-03-08 10:50:19Publish 'set' 'state' to 'Uppfartsbelysningen' failed: 'Error: Command 0x680ae2fffe877124/1 genOnOff.off({}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Timeout - 26836 - 1 - 41 - 6 - 11 after 10000ms)'

shell needle
#

Hi, I have a problem trying to bind a Osram Smart + Mini remote to a zigbee bulb. I was able to use the zigbee2mqtt zu to bind the on/off. But I can only turn the device on not off.

random saffron
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Hi, I bought a Aubess IH-K665.
Model TS0207 ZigbeeManufacturer _TZ3000_upgcbody

The problem is that the device only communicates when leak status changes.
Do you jave any idea?

sour shadow
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That's pretty normal

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Most end devices (battery powered) only communicate when something happens (plus a silent check in every hour or few)

random saffron
#

@sour shadow that is not normal.
All my other zigbee devices (door contract, motion detection etc) expose status battery linkqualoty every some minutes

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That water leak sensor does not

sour shadow
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Some devices only report battery once a day, or less

#

Some devices only report link quality every few hours - I've a couple of Tuya ones that report in every 6 hours

#

"Normal" and Zigbee are two words that don't go together 😉

random saffron
#

So, it depends from the zigbee manufacturer if the device report any of it entities?

sour shadow
#

Well, it's up to them how compliant with the Zigbee spec they are

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if the sensor doesn't report something at least every 24 hours then likely it's buggy, or needs new batteries, or just has a terrible signal

random saffron
#

it doesn't report anything for more than 2 days...

ivory shuttle
#

My temperature sensors only report when the temperature changes by about 0.25c

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Which usually it does, but occasionally 1 of them used to freeze up and you'd get no temperature report for 24h, but still get reports on humidity

austere river
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not sure if this is an install question or a here question: Is there any advantage/disadvantage to running zigbee2mqtt as a daemon as opposed to npm start?

distant flume
#

the thing i'd consider for that is that however you start it, you want to make sure it'll automatically restart when the system reboots after a power loss

grim igloo
carmine hamlet
#

I guess it's easier to debug issues vs. shelling into the container, but only barely so

austere river
#

I was supposed to learn all this as I went but yesterday was a disaster so

grim igloo
#

I’m not the guy to school you on this, but in general unless you’re intentionally choosing LXCs for a reason, you should just have a dockerhost VM instead and run them all in that.

austere river
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It was a last minute decision to be fair, I will probably change things over

grim igloo
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You can setup your system and migrate later once you have some time

austere river
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I just needed it up and running because I nuked my entire system yesterday

austere river
#

So for my original question .. the docker host would take care of actually starting the Z2M service right?

grim igloo
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You’d set it up in docker compose with restart unless stopped iirc

austere river
#

Time to re-install Z2M again 🙃

twilit tartan
#

Hi, so was told i should try a install Hue lights to my HA using a Zigbee device. I have no idea what to buy ? I live in Denmark

short sandal
#

@twilit tartan ^^^

violet wave
#

@mellow geode any luck merging those TRV PRs at some point ? 🙂

twilit tartan
short sandal
#

Yes believe so.

twilit tartan
#

Cool il give it a try

short sandal
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Basically you need a USB Zigbee radio. I’ve only used the Conbee 2 (30£€$ on Amazon) on the end of at least a meter extension lead to avoid interference. It’s pretty resilient in my experience. Pair some bulbs, add some sensors. I’m upto 72 devices now. 🤣

twilit tartan
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Shit thats a lot and its not like addons for games where to many ... it up xD ?

short sandal
#

It can get unreliable if you don’t have enough lights, which act as routers. Start small lol

#

The lights and other mains powered devices form the backbone of the mesh.

orchid tundra
#

You can also use smart plugs as routers too

#

Might be a bit more economical

twilit tartan
#

Ah oki., Think first i need to buy the stuff and then i can try it 🙂

grim igloo
grim igloo
#

Do you have specific questions?

short sandal
# grim igloo Not necessarily

That video is a high level tutorial of getting started with ZHA. There’s not enough detail for anything to be out of date.

grim igloo
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Well that’s a problem in and of itself

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The guy had no opportunity to learn about z2m and why he might or might not prefer it

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A lot of the YouTubers know a lot less than people who actually interact with the community and developers