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lofty stag
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thank you

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the nodes? should have to wait ?

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they have wrong states

tropic depot
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Wym?

lofty stag
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e.g. my office door shows closed, but it is open

tropic depot
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If you close it and open it does it sync up?

lofty stag
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nope

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close to it, I have a repeater (which I re-paired)

red cedar
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Anyone with the Aqara p1 motion sensor: have you figured out a way to make it not “sleep”? I’m finding that the one I have, now that I don’t use the Aqara hub, seems to “sleep” after an extended period (let’s say hours) of no detection and then my automation for motion detection in that area doesn’t fire because of it.

lofty stag
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althought, it was paired, the state of door/window sensor is still wrong
I tried, following the instructions, to wake the device.

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but it still reports wrong state

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I just got a msg in logs

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[0x0cdb:1:0x1000]: Couldn't get list of groups: Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>

tropic depot
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Devices are most likely rejoining

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Give things like 20 mins and see if everything stabilizes

lofty stag
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thank you @tropic depot

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will wait

sour shadow
lofty stag
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@tropic depot under ZHA devices there is the old coordinator.

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shall I delete it ?

tropic depot
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Go for it

lofty stag
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ok done. The new coordinator, shows Manufacturer and Model as Unknown

harsh mango
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idr who asked for debug logs for my issue, but I have them now. the lights all turned themselves on last night.

grizzled lichen
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hi guys, any thought about SLZB-06(M)? it seems to have a good range, big antenna included.

sour shadow
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Range from the coordinator is largely irrelevant, and mostly unhelpful. There's a reason Zigbee is a mesh network.

This explains it well.

grizzled lichen
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Yes.. I have some minisonoff switches as routers.. but they are weak

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5meters range

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If the coordinator is a bit more powerful I can put sonoff mini mor far away and increase range

sour shadow
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Or you could just replace the Sonoff with routers that don't suck so badly

grizzled lichen
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Yes.. but I already have a lot of shelly wifi devices

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What are the best device to extend range?

sour shadow
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Innr plugs, or CC2652 sticks flashed with router firmware

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(pretty sure I've said that before)

harsh mango
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Can someone please take a look at this log and tell me why my Ikea light turned on last night? According to the UI, it happened at 12:49:29 AM. Nothing caused it according to the UI.

https://dpaste.com//B77XM7SFU

sour shadow
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What does the Logbook say?

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(that's the easy one to decode)

harsh mango
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That's what I mean by the UI, the logbook.

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just, "Turned On"

sour shadow
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Then it happened outside of HA

harsh mango
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so randomly all of my lights just "turn on" outside of HA?

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Because it's not limited to just one.

sour shadow
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Power blip?

harsh mango
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Power blip almost every night around the same time?

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but also different times for different bulbs?

sour shadow
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These are all ZHA connected?

harsh mango
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living room was 12:12:17AM

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yes they are.

sour shadow
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You've not got anything like Node Red connected to HA?

harsh mango
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no.

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fresh docker install of HA using the default ZHA.

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Fresh because it was happening on my last install (the vm image) and I was getting sick of it. I thought maybe I messed something up since I had been new to HA back then.

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but ofc, it's still happening.

charred girder
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can anyone make a recommendation to a good zigbee gateway.. I was initially looking for a DIN compatible one that i could place in my installation cabinet, but anything good will do

sour shadow
harsh mango
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maybe the bulbs need firmware updates? idk what else can be done, this is getting old.

sour shadow
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No Tradfri stuff on that network?

harsh mango
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that's what the bulbs are

sour shadow
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Not any sensors?

harsh mango
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nope.

red cedar
tropic depot
sour shadow
harsh mango
grim igloo
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lucky for you they just made it easier lol

tropic depot
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1 - IKEA is not enabled by default so you will need to add a yaml config

harsh mango
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though I see something that mentions firmware and it says it's up to date :/

tropic depot
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Then you can just check for updates in HA settings

harsh mango
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yeah I added it as per that guide.

tropic depot
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Ok

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Just go to settings and check for updates

harsh mango
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?

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I don't have an option for that in settings.

tropic depot
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HA settings

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3 dots menu in top right

harsh mango
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ohh, thanks.

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didn't realize it was hidden up there 😄

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Does this usually take a while? Only one bulb showed up and I know more than one is on the same version 😄

tropic depot
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Yep

harsh mango
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ah okay, ty.

tropic depot
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They are checked 1 at a time

harsh mango
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I'll just maybe do some work or something while I wait, lol.

patent hemlock
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I cannot see a supervisor or addon on home assistant.
can anyone help how to troubleshoot or install

harsh mango
patent hemlock
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yes,

harsh mango
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there aren't addons in this version, built in like the other one at least.

patent hemlock
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its on casaos zimaboard

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app

harsh mango
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def give it a google, something like, "home assistant docker addons"

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@tropic depot the log is saying there are some bulbs that do not have updates. That's disappointing, because all of them are giving problems.

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I can pastebin the full log if you think that'll help, but, @sour shadow said the Sonoff are bad routers (ofc that's what I have) - idk if it's worth getting a different router? I'm at a loss.

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well, the update failed to install anyway.

tropic depot
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Upload the log and I’ll peek when I have a moment

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Remove the routers as a test and see if you still have issues 🤷‍♂️

harsh mango
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Possible to just disable the router feature?

tropic depot
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No

harsh mango
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damn

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my coordinator is sonoff too.

sour shadow
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Sonoff E is fine (for ZHA)

harsh mango
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iirc, no custom firmware for the S31 Lite, just the wifi version.

red cedar
sour shadow
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Innr

shrewd saddle
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I got the dongle-e yesterday. Seemed problem free but now it keeps disconnecting. Z2m in a Docker container. I have the latest fw according to the web flasher. Any recommendations?

ashen bluff
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fiscomnevtingu
🤔
Any recommendations
Use one of the recommended adapters mentioned on the website

shrewd saddle
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Jesus that's one weird auto correct. 🙃

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I know it's experimental. Was thinking about specific settings or older fw

red cedar
# sour shadow Innr

ordered a 4 pack of the plugs that I can swap the sonoffs for. thank you 🙂

harsh mango
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I updated firmware on 4 bulbs, that's all it shows as out of date. I doubt this will fix my issues, but maybe I should give it a chance for a few days before pulling out all the sonoff S31 Lite's.

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I have like 8 of them iirc, would suck to just... ewaste.

lofty stag
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@tropic depot three hours laters, all devices report unknown 😦

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So I have to say that, for me, migration is not smooth

tropic depot
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You are sure it finished successfully?

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And you removed the old coordinator from HA?

lofty stag
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100%

tropic depot
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What happens if you restart HA

lofty stag
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I followed all the steps

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and I got a suceesfull note

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no errors at log

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the state is frozen at dashboard

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here is the logs

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after reloading the integration

tropic depot
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Let it run w/ debug on for like 20 mins and trigger several devices

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And give me that log

lofty stag
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ok - how to trigger /

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?

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what do you mean by that ? wake ?

tropic depot
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Physically turn on and off some plugs

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Open and close doors

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Etc

lofty stag
tropic depot
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Just on / off

lofty stag
tropic depot
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No

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Just open / close

lofty stag
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understand

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will do that

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will get back to you

astral seal
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Do they work properly? If they work properly, leave them alone.

lofty stag
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@tropic depot here is the log file your requested

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they are all still unavailable

tropic depot
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Will peek in a bit

lofty stag
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ok

tropic depot
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Did you do anything during the migration with the IEEE checkbox?

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I can’t remember off the top of my head if that is shown or not

lofty stag
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yes it promted me

tropic depot
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Did you have it checked off?

lofty stag
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it said it was changed...so what do you want to do
a) restore backup
b) keep current

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i choose the 2nd option - keep current

tropic depot
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Run the migration again and restore a backup from before

lofty stag
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ok - with the new stick on, right ?

tropic depot
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Yes don’t touch any hardware

lofty stag
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ok here are the steps

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a) MIGRATE RADIO

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ZHA will be stopped. do you waith to continue?

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Submit

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Migrate or re-configure

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Re-configure the current radio

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Migrate to a new radio

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??

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which one ?

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?

tropic depot
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Patience dude

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Pick reconfigure

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Then when you get to the network formation screen pick restore automatic backup

lofty stag
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am sorry

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i selected the manually option

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i picked radio type (EZSP)

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AND Now it asks for port settings

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it seems there is a bug on the three options

tropic depot
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Why did you select manual?

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It will auto detect all of that

lofty stag
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just to be sure

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check this out

tropic depot
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Go back and let it auto detect

lofty stag
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ok

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just did - it keeps loading

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it prompts again for radio type

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and
Serial port settings

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/dev/ttyACM0

tropic depot
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If you know your settings select the values

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They should also be written into the config entry from before

tropic depot
lofty stag
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network formation

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ok

tropic depot
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Restore from automatic backup and pick the last one from before your initial migration

lofty stag
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ok

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it prompts for IEEE address

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permanently replace or not ?

tropic depot
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Yes

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If you want it to work 🙂

lofty stag
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ok - just to make sure
checkbox is selected

tropic depot
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Yes

lofty stag
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unknown error occured

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f***

tropic depot
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What’s in the log

lofty stag
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not much

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rebooting

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logs

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when i restarted

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it worked again

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map shows two coordinators

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with the same name

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difference IEEE

tropic depot
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Are your devices working?

lofty stag
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they work now 🙂

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so strange

tropic depot
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Cool

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It’s not strange

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When you initially migrated you TOLD it to create a new network

tropic depot
lofty stag
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do you offer paid services ?? 🙂

mellow geode
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You can also upgrade the SkyConnect firmware to overwrite the IEEE for as many times as you want

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It won’t even show the prompt (for saving new IEEE to userdata) IIRC

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But if everything works now, no need to upgrade

lofty stag
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my problem is that this was my experiment

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I did this to my office

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total 21 nodes

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at home, I die to upgrade stick

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I have over 100 nodes and I am afraid

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so many things I afraid to move on

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and I've stick with conbee II

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very humbly, there is still lots of things must be done

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what is the ise of physics on the map ?

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I keep playing balls all the time 🙂

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is there any other use ?

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this is how the map looks now

snow trellis
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Does placing the coordinator near a router / modem, can cause malfunction on the PI / Zigbee Integration / device?

tropic depot
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It can be a source of interference for sure

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What is wrong

ashen bluff
mighty river
mellow geode
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If speed has just like two or three possible values, you could also check out select.py

tiny belfry
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Wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue. It's not the biggest deal because the device does work, but I have a ThirdReality smart plug and it's super slow at responding. When I toggle it from HA it takes a good second before the icon actually changes, and I don't have this issue on any other of my zigbee devices. It's got an LQI of 176 and an RSSI of -56, and I'm not sure if those are good or bad numbers, but since it's decently far away from my home assistant maybe it just requires too many hops? I'm not sure. Although there's also an Aqara relay in the same room and its response time is basically instant

mellow geode
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ZHA or Z2M? And what coordinator are you using? Was this issue always present in previous HA/Z2M releases?

harsh mango
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okay i suspect it is actually something to do with a script that is messing up my lights. seems like 1H -ish after running "bedtime" things mess up. i tested by running it as we were leaving the house. sure enough. we got home and the lights are showing "on" but are not on.

ruby jewel
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hi everyone; I have a phillips wall switch module linked to zigbee2MQTT, and when I try to set it to "single push button'", I get the following error:

Publish 'set' 'device_mode' to 'loo switch' failed: 'Error: Write 0x001788010d9fd029/1 genBasic({"52":{"value":1,"type":48}}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":4107,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Timeout - 48139 - 1 - 5 - 0 - 4 after 10000ms)'

Any idea why?

runic pumice
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I have 60 devices on a Texas Instruments (CC26X2R1) adapter that's plugged in to my HA Yellow, everything working perfectly fine. Is there any upside migrating the whole bunch to the onboard Zigbee chip? For better connectivity I have to repair some stuff anyway (paired to a specific router) so it's not that hard to redo everything.

(I'm running Z2M on the Yellow)

ashen bluff
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Are you using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?

grim igloo
barren chasm
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New venture into Zigbee
I am running HAOS, Zdongle-E 7.4 firmware, have mqtt broker setup and working .
My stumbling block is this:
I am unig Z2M and installed a door sensor. It is listed in my devices and I can see it in the dashboard. It responds in the dashboard when open or closed.
However I cannot find it in Devices or Entities. It seems it does not exist in the Home Assistant world.
By the way, it is an approved Zigbee device for Z2M
Any ideas why I cannot see it in HA? I want to use it in an automation using its state.

runic pumice
ashen bluff
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Ah, because Z2M uses its ezsp driver for that chip and its only experimentally supported. Should be fine for ZHA.

runic pumice
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But is it better 😁

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Yellow radio + ZHA vs TI radio + Z2M

mortal oasis
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hi i have an issue with connecting my ikea led1836g9 lamp to the zigbee network

full gale
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hello everyone! quick question: now HA supports Zigbee updates for specific vendors, but are there detailed instructions on how to add "custom" ones? (e.g. Ikea, HUE), I can only find quite old resources about that

austere patio
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I would hold off on custom ones for a bit. They'll be in next release. There are currently issues with devices asking for the wrong firmware and we've disabled them for non-development purposes for now.

mellow geode
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Although you can already enable the ikea_provider if you want to. It's disabled by default, but most devices are fine to update now.
Be aware that some remotes/dimmers might loose group binding functionality after updated. All mains-powered devices should be safe to update though. The remotes are also slightly more reliable on newer firmware (if you don't need group binding).

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(But do stay away from the custom one for now.)

torn compass
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Hi All, Trying to get my first zigbee setup working with at tasmota flashed sonoff zigbee bridge pro, i've flashed and autoconfigured, and the tasmota console shows that the module is loaded and that a listener is started on 8888

00:00:03.704 HTP: Web server active on tasmota-0DD8EC-6380 with IP address 192.168.0.179
21:37:28.094 RSL: INFO1 = {"Info1":{"Module":"TCP ZBBridge Pro","Version":"13.3.0.5(zbbrdgpro)","FallbackTopic":"cmnd/DVES_0DD8EC_fb/","GroupTopic":"cmnd/tasmotas/"}}
21:37:28.109 RSL: INFO2 = {"Info2":{"WebServerMode":"Admin","Hostname":"tasmota-0DD8EC-6380","IPAddress":"192.168.0.179","IP6Global":"redacted","IP6Local":"fe80::e665:b8ff:fe0d:d8ec%st1"}}
21:37:28.123 RSL: INFO3 = {"Info3":{"RestartReason":"Software reset CPU","BootCount":10}}
21:37:28.147 RUL: SYSTEM#BOOT performs "TCPStart 8888"
21:37:28.149 TCP: Starting TCP server on port 8888
21:37:28.152 RSL: RESULT = {"TCPStart":"Done"}
I've tried activating installing zha on homeassistant, but it fails on creating network (i provided connection as socket://ipaddress:8888)
i've tried activating via zigbee2mqtt, but it fails, (i provided serial port as port: tcp://ipaddress:8888)

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i'm unsure if using the tcp bridge mode is wrong

rapid dawnBOT
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@torn compass I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
gray pumice
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Is everyone having issues with zigbee2mqtt and skyconnect ?

ashen bluff
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Probably not everyone but SkyConnect is only experimentally supported so some issues are to be expected.

gray pumice
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yeah, but since the last update and even if I roll back (restore) my zigbee networks breaks down before having been stable for 1 hour

tawdry blade
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hello, i purchased hue lights as an alternative to wiz - using zigbee integration. to my disappointment despite hue being approx. 7-times more expensive there is only a single light effect available (colorloop) while wiz had 30+. is that expected?

main ruin
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i am not quite sure what you mean by light effect. its a lamp for the most part, not an effect cannon

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the hub provides some mood color rotation you might mean?

tawdry blade
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it's a dynamic (fw-integrated) change of light.. e. g. a candle effect

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@main ruin yeah, something along those lines

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but i am not using a hub. just a skyconnect coordinator

main ruin
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the fancy desktop / game color sync works over their entertainment api. i suppose this is just some trickery to make the light update in sync

gray pumice
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But...just to know if its my system...is other having trouble at the moment with zigbee2mqtt, skyconnect multipan

main ruin
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i dont think this is possible <that easily> without their hub

tawdry blade
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@main ruin aaah, i see. i somehow thought this would be a feature of the lightbulb itself (like it's with the wiz devices). makes sense. thanks for the explanation

main ruin
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yea they do some more magic on the hub side of things which allows you to tap into this functionality from various areas

tawdry blade
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apart from this.. would i get anything more from the hub? would that also mean i would need to switch to cloud integration?

main ruin
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the hub can be linked through the local hue integration. unless you also use their ip cameras this can work fully local i think

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you wouldnt get all the settings available over to homeassistant sadly but you could at least use them from the hue app / their other device integrations

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by default they dont have that man effects there either

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like its mostly just some color scheme that rotates slowly over multiple bulbs

west forum
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hey, is there any benefit in checking the state of a light in automations to avoid turning it on/off if it's already on/off?

manic plinth
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Hey guys, can you recommend a Zigbee switch module that works without a neutral wire that you can install behind your wall switch?

halcyon owl
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In am replacing all my Insteon devices. Is there a particular brand everybody likes for Zigbee switches?

carmine hamlet
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I quite like the Inovelli Blue switches.

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I have...a lot

tidal ocean
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Has anyone else had issues with ZHA/SkyConnect after recent updates? Today I updated the OS to 11.5 and the core to 2024.2.1 on my Green and now the SkyConnect keeps saying "Failed to set up". The logs just show a CancelledError in zigpy so I'm not sure how to troubleshoot.
screenshot: https://will-o.co/4q8RGreuaW.png

halcyon owl
# carmine hamlet I quite like the Inovelli Blue switches.

I need some that are for fans and bathroom heaters, and some that are dimmable for lighting. I'm not sure about their instructions on the webpage. its says: SMART 2-1 SWITCH (ON/OFF OR DIMMER). - On/Off portion refers to lighting only (except ballasts). Not to be used for fans, outlets, ballasts (magnetic or electric) or any inductive/motorized loads. Not to be used on ELV or MLV lights. See FAQ's for more details. Do you think this will work for fans and inductive loads? Do they mean the dimmer part which makes sense or the entire switch? I can't figure it out because it says two and one switch off on or dimmer.

carmine hamlet
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You need the fan switches for fans

halcyon owl
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umm do they make those

carmine hamlet
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And they're just for ceiling and bathroom fans, not bigger ones

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Yes

halcyon owl
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i found it

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sorry to bother you! Thank you for your help

carmine hamlet
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No problem

mellow geode
tidal ocean
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So when you say disable IPv6 that would be in the /config/network settings right? Not something zigbee-specific?

halcyon owl
wise scarab
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Hello Friends, just started planning for Home Assistant for my whole house and interested in ZigBee setup. Please guide me a solution for Raspberry pi or other mini pc. I looked into Zigbee CC2540 CC2531 available on AliExpress, not sure if they work perfectly. Also for 24x7 online setup RPI or home assistant green or any mini pc cost effective better solution

carmine hamlet
mellow geode
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You still have some kind of network issue though where HA can't access one of the update servers.

tidal ocean
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@mellow geode That seems to have worked! Thanks, I think I actually saw that Github issue earlier but the mention of Docker threw me off. And yeah, I did see something in the logs earlier about it not being able to upload analytics data so maybe there's something weird happening with my internet/router. I'm not that concerned about the zigbee firmware updates specifically though.

halcyon owl
carmine hamlet
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I didn't do much research on it, but it works. I'm sure it's not the only one

halcyon owl
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im looking

carmine hamlet
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I got it after I killed the Inovelli one because didn't pay attention to the specs

halcyon owl
regal pumice
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Typical zigbee temp and humidity sensors on aliexpress for 6 bucks

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What's their range in general?

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How big of a room can one cover?

carmine hamlet
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That's a curious question

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How big of a room?

river hatch
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Hey all, I wouldn't touch tuya wifi where possible, but how is "tuya zigbee"?

gray pumice
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Please help here - Is it my setup or commen issue with skyconnect and z2m ?

ashen bluff
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Context? What I can tell you is that Z2M only has experimental support for SkyConnect,

gray pumice
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My zigbee2mqtt crashes random every 5 min to -8 hour

regal pumice
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90% of the time it's fine

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You'll just have to experiment

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Unfortunately they have a monopoly on the market so there's nothing you can do sometimes but invest in tuya products.

Their zigbee ones though are usually solid

regal pumice
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Open concept

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So stair well to upstairs and the room opens out to the laundry room and other bedrooms

ashen bluff
regal pumice
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And humidity

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One sensor per room with ducts

gray pumice
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error 2024-02-11 09:10:48: Adapter disconnected, stopping

river hatch
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Can your usb hub supply the adapter

gray pumice
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is connected directly to my nuc

ashen bluff
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I'd check ha host logs for anything related.

peak gazelle
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i've been having weird issues with zigbee, i've started to get (Data request failed with error: 'No network route' (205))' errors a few minutes ago and now nothing seems to work anymore, a restart didnt help

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interestingly enough i still get data from my motion or temperature sensors via zigbee?

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but whenever I try to change something it errors

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uu sometimes i also see MAC channel access failure' (225)

ashen bluff
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Are you powering off routers with a light switch for example?

peak gazelle
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i don't think so? Like I haven't changed anything in the last month or so and it worked fine until yesterday

ashen bluff
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Then it might just be interference. See link and pins here.

peak gazelle
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If i change the channel in the config do i have to completely delete and repair everything or is there an easier way to do that?

ashen bluff
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Yes and no.

peak gazelle
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is it possible to run that bellows channel check on haOS somehow?

mighty river
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New Aqara device, lumi.remote.b1acn02 - I cannot get it fully recognized as it seems to me (fairly novice HA user), I see Battery, RSSI and LQI and a Firmware-entry - nothing more. I also have lumi.remote.b1acn01 to compare to (an older version of the same?) - both are "simple buttons", where the latter appears (=is) working to my knowledge and understanding. I believe this needs a "quirk" - Where do I go to upload logs and diagnostics.json files?

peak gazelle
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Is it possible to keep all the homeassistant data for the device if i have to re-pair it?

peak gazelle
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i've changed the channel and restarted z2m but now it won't start anymore
Error: network commissioning timed out - most likely network with the same panId or extendedPanId already exists nearby
i generated a new panid and extpanid in the config already but still the same issue

mellow geode
mellow geode
mellow geode
peak gazelle
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i'm running z2m yea

mellow geode
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What did you mean with "bellows channel" then?

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bellows is a library used by ZHA

peak gazelle
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theres this docker thingy to check channels in the pins, thats what i meant

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but I think I'll just switch to 15, that looks like were there are the least wifi interferences in the corresponding cchannels

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but it still doesnt start :D is this just because i have zigbee devices plugged in?

languid sky
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  • Temp&Humid&LCD Sonoff SNZB-02D Firmware 0x00001009 (latest, according to ZHA)
  • Sonoff Dongle–P CC2652 Firmware Z-Stack 20230507

=> Does not keep connection with HA.

It pairs, then it becomes unavailable (the network icon on the device flashes), becomes available again (network icon constant), becomes unavailable again, etc. etc. a few times => until it disconnects completely (the network icon disappears on the device, it shows "turned off" in ZHA, does not push sensor updates to HA anymore).

Any ideas? I have 6 other SNZB-02 (without the LCD) and they work (kinda) OK.

turbid lodge
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Hello,
if I have a Sky Connect with HA do I need an extra Hub like a Philips or is that the Sky Connect stick?

runic pumice
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That would be your Zigbee router indeed

turbid lodge
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Geat thanks

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Great*

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But if I do have Philips Hue light can I connect them by usin the Sky Connect stick with the app?

peak gazelle
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I've somehow managed to finally start z2m again and deleted everything but now nothing wants to pair
Man ._.

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Is it possible that my antenna just got fried somehow?

west forum
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hey, is there any benefit in checking the state of a light in automations to avoid turning it on/off if it's already on/off?

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or switches for that matter

astral seal
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No.

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If the light is already in the target state nothing will happen.

peak gazelle
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Is there any way to check if the antenna is just dead or something?

languid sky
wise citrus
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is there any way to add 2 zigbee routers to the ZHA integration in home assistant? I have a 3 floor home, repeaters don't really help

languid sky
wise citrus
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i mean 2 zigbee gateways

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or multiple gateways

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i have over 300 devices, 1 gateway won't take everything

languid sky
# wise citrus i mean 2 zigbee gateways

nope, in a zigbee network there is always only one "coordinator".

you can have multiple "routers" (which act like "repeaters") and multiple "end-devices", but only one "coordinator".

some gateways can be flashed to act as "routers" instead of "coordinators", btw

storm orbit
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Hi there, I hope maybe here someone can help. I believe it may be a Zigbee specic information that I am trying to understand, please see the post: #developers message

ashen compass
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Is there a recommended sensor to read whether the shower is on/off? It's a single knob so I was thinking something similar to an aqara window sensor but it would need to be able to withstand moisture

astral seal
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I might be tempted to build something using esphome for that, with a hall effect flow sensor.

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Or you could just use a humidity sensor

vapid gyro
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I am stuck and hope you guys can give me some clearance

zigbee is the protocol over wifi, where the devices communicate with each other.
there is one coordinator in a network, where these devices are connected to.
the devices can relay the info from the coordinator in case the coordinator can reach the device directly. So forming a mesh network.
there are zigbee-USB sticks which can work as extenders
there are zigbee-Routers which can act as a coordinator and push the device infos to an MQTT-Broker.
there are zigbee-USB sticks which can be used by ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT so that they are working as a coordinator and communicating with the devices.

In within HA the ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT device infos somehow do find their way into an MQTT-Broker and HA is working with them. Detecting and setting up devices, getting informations from them.

rapid dawnBOT
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@vapid gyro I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
carmine hamlet
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'Zigbee is the protocol over WiFi' is wrong

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They share a frequency range, but otherwise have nothing to do with each other

vapid gyro
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wireless I don't care bout the frequenzy

short sandal
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Does anyone know of any temp/humidity sensors suitable for being placed outside? Battery powered with decent battery life?

sour shadow
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Use Zigbee2MQTT and they're done automatically for you

ivory trail
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Not sure this is the right place — I have a Tuya led controller and I’ve connected it to a cct led strip. Is there some way of telling the Tuya what the range of temperatures the strip supports? By default the Tuya thinks it can drive 1500-7000K while the led actually has a range of 2700-6000K. I am using DeConz but general Zigbee advice will also be helpful.

sour shadow
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Depends on the exact model of controller, and what deCONZ supports for them

ivory trail
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HA report: TS0505B
by _TZ3210_3lbtuxgp. Where does one typically look for such settings. I see a bunch of clusters in DeConz, but I can’t quite figure out if those are commands to be sent of config settings. I’m much more used to the Zwave world for this sort of configuration stuff.

sour shadow
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You're probably best off asking the deCONZ experts over in their Discord

vapid gyro
sour shadow
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You just point them at the broker

rapid dawnBOT
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@vapid gyro I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
sour shadow
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but Zigbee2MQTT won't start cause of no serial adapter.
can I use it without?
No

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Also localhost doesn't work with Docker

vapid gyro
rapid dawnBOT
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@vapid gyro When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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Again, manually

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That's the downside of Tasmota's (really crap) Zigbee support

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You're better off pointing Z2M at that coordinator

vapid gyro
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I did not point anything to it yet
the coordinator pusing messages to EMQX and there I can get the messages.
No Tasmota involved from there.

Sorry, I know Linux, Windows can write you kernel drivers with ease but I can't wrap my head around how this is working!

sour shadow
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Tasmota is involved

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That's what's running on the coordinator

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That's what's pushing the messages to the broker

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Now you have to write all the required MQTT configuration for each entity in HA

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Or stop using Tasmota and use Zigbee2MQTT

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Tasmota's Zigbee support is, bluntly, crap

vapid gyro
# sour shadow Tasmota _is_ involved

thank you:
configuration.yaml

mqtt:
sensor:
- name: "sw_test"
state_topic: "tele/tasmota_C2A35C/#"
...
#{"ZbReceived":{"0xB6C5":{"Device":"0xB6C5","0006!FD":"00","LidlPower":0,"Endpoint":1,"LinkQuality":134}}}

is there

sour shadow
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@vapid gyro

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Again... you really don't need to leave the ping on for every damn reply 😉

vapid gyro
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my apologies I am a noob with discord, using it via browser.
Just used reply to your messages

grim igloo
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honestly dude you're better off using mosquitto and z2m

sour shadow
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Or at least Z2M, EMQX works fine, it's just more effort than Mosquitto

grim igloo
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robc said emqx fell on its face for him or something to that effect. i havent tried it myself tho

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taking the path less traveled just isnt worth it (here)

sour shadow
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I tried it... big and clunky and lots of work

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Went back to Mosquitto

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Makes sense on big setups where the cluster is useful, not on home networks

vapid gyro
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what does Mosquitto do different as an MQTT-Broker?

sour shadow
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Simple, lightweight, fast

vapid gyro
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posting messages in,
retreiving messages via topics

sour shadow
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It's the difference between a stripped back race car (Mosquitto) and Tesla's monster truck (EMQX)

vapid gyro
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setting up EMQX was a charm, getting the MQTT from the zigbee-coordinator inside as well.
Now the part for HA to react on this messages: I can listen t a topic, is not uite straight forward.

I do have overpowered HA Hardware, but I cant use an USB-Dongle in the basement to talk to my zigbee devices 2 floors up!
So I have the nice way of having the zigbee posting it to the MQTT-Broker via ethernet.

I can't find a simple example how to set it that up (even manualy)
Reading up on the topic involves me jumping into the rabbit hole!
For manual settings the examples are one line + reference to another page containing another line and so forth.
it is a pain.

sour shadow
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So I have the nice way of having the zigbee posting it to the MQTT-Broker via ethernet.
I can't find a simple example how to set it that up (even manualy)
Using Z2M would be that simple way

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That can connect to your current coordinator, and away you go

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Or you can keep banging your head on the keyboard

vapid gyro
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I have Z2M how would I connect that to my coordinator?
the one solution I found was a reflash of the whole thing.

sour shadow
carmine hamlet
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Big, flashy, can't handle basic functions

regal pumice
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What presence sensor do you all recommend?

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Something that's compact

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For small rooms such as a bathroom

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Or even modules

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Willing to make my own

short sandal
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I like the little sonoff one. MS01. Got about 6 now.

regal pumice
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I'm looking for a presence sensor

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To use as a variable if someone enters the room

tiny belfry
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I got a tuya mmWave sensor for my kitchen, it works pretty nice, although it does catch people just outside the kitchen. Probably depends on your house layout how much slop is okay in the sensing

tiny belfry
regal pumice
tiny belfry
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I'm using ZHA yeah, but I don't think it can work off battery. I think sensors like that have a higher power draw

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though I guess it'd work off a USB battery pack

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dunno how long it'd last though

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might be better off just running a long USB 2.0 extension cable to it, since it's power only length isn't too big a deal

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battery powered presence sensors don't really seem to be a thing though. a few motion sensors, but not presence

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the batteries will just die too fast

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if you can put it near eg where you'd plug in your electric toothbrush or something that should work

orchid tundra
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trying to update a Third Reality plug that I got recently using the new ZHA update entities. It prompts me to install, but when I do I immediately get an error that says "Failed to call service update/install. unknown error"

rapid dawnBOT
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@orchid tundra I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
orchid tundra
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currently on the latest version of HA OS as of right now:

  • Core 2024.2.1
  • Supervisor 2024.01.1 (should this be newer?)
  • Operating System 11.5
  • Frontend 20240207.1
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anyone know how I might fix this?

rigid wagon
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No name, so cant google it for reviews

sour shadow
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Tuya...

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That's not been called hassio for years and years

rigid wagon
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They work with zigbee...even though most spam.

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I have 3 ep-1 sensors but look for some cheap ones

sour shadow
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And you're getting what you pay for it

rigid wagon
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Its a sensor of like 24 usd

rapid dawnBOT
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@rigid wagon When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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The Aqara FP1 costs, but works well

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Assuming you're after mmwave and not pir

rigid wagon
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Overpriced though. But yeah aqara is a good brand.

hasty lotus
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ZHA update from popup gets error

sleek plinth
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Installed Blindsmart roller blinds using z2m. Pleased to see upper and lower limits included in Device page controls. Easy to adopt, configure and automate

manic plinth
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What is the difference between binding a device in Zigbee versus binding a group to certain components of the Zigbee device?

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I have an EcoDim switch which has 4 groups of buttons that I want to bind to 4 different lamps

carmine hamlet
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When you bind to a group, you're telling the device to directly control a group

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If you want a device to directly control several other devices, create a group and bind to that

royal hazel
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I‘ve configured zigbee stuff using ZHA so far. Some people recommmend zigbee2mqtt instead.
What would be the best way to migrate my ZHA configuration to zigbee2mqtt ?

sour shadow
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There's no migration path, it's start fresh

royal hazel
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uhh , that‘s what I expected, thanks

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would I have to do some manual housekeeping, e.g delete unused entities and/or other objects ?

sour shadow
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I'd expect so - doubly so if you want to re-use the old entity_id values

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On the other hand, if you remove them from ZHA first then that should remove them from HA

trim valley
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Hey y'all, I'm running into a problem with my ikea zigbee hardware. Commands from the remotes are sporadically delayed by ~3-15 seconds. Sometimes everything works perfectly, but then they will randomly start having this crazy delay. Ive checked the log in z2mqtt and it seems like commands from the switches aren't received during that time. As soon as the register, the lights react appropiately. I'm running on a RPi 3b+ using the zigbee dongle-e on a 6ft usb extension. Any suggestions?

sour shadow
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Sounds like a weak signal and/or interference

trim valley
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hmm okay. I checked and it seems like the signal is on the most consistently stable channel in my area. Unfortunately there are a ton of wifi AP's nearby.

short sandal
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Anyone know of a temp/humidity that can survive being outside? Battery powered, zigbee. I can’t find one…

ripe osprey
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Anyways, if you really need outside battery sensor and ur temperatures don't go below -20, i would go with Aqara T1 temp sensors (look for Zigbee 3.0 model).
I would then print something like this around it, as temperature sensor is on the bottom of the device, so this will allow for sensors to work and also somewhat protect from weather
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3029737

novel mica
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Looking to swap out my CC2531 coordinator to something new, is there any reason to avoid EZSP (which seems to be the new standard variant sold)? I’d prefer to not have to re-pair my devices, but it seems close to impossible for me to find a Texas Instruments coordinator such as CC2652 in Europe. Running zigbee2mqtt if that matters regarding the choice

grim igloo
carmine hamlet
sonic delta
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Has anyone known if Aqara Hub E1 works with anything?
It doesn't seem that it is supported by Zigbee2MQTT.
I found this, but it seems like it is related to CN?
https://github.com/niceboygithub/AqaraGateway
Any ideas? Or else i might aswell just return it, and try to buy a more supported one.

novel mica
grim igloo
frail willow
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Hey! Are there any Zigbee experts out there i could bounce a question off regarding a device templates? In ZHA.

grim igloo
trail sparrow
short sandal
hasty lotus
# trim valley hmm okay. I checked and it seems like the signal is on the most consistently sta...

Take into account the zigbee map when programming and placing devices. For switches they really need to be able to connect to a zigbee router (bulb or other wired in device). When you place the switch in it's holder the rear 1/3 of the device is shielded.

I have a switch in our bathroom that was controlling a tuya wifi bulb in the same location. It was problematic. I replaced the lightbulb with an Ikea zigbee bulb and the network connectivity changed (obviously) and issues with the switch are a thing of the past.

As a side note I have also found when programming the Ikea switches that 4 very quick clicks of the pairing button yields near 100% success in activating the pairing mode.

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I also had an issue I requested assistance for last night - no help - I went and moved the bulb. Anyway, the housing the bulb was in shields it for a good connection to the mesh. I repointed the housing a little and hey presto - things work.

trim valley
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I switched my zigbee network over to channel 25 and i think the network is a bit more responsive

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Also maybe my body is sheilding the network traffic between the bulb and the HA dongle

hasty lotus
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I have 3 access points with the wifi turned down to reasonable levels rather than every 2.4GHz screaming back and forth to an individual AP.

hasty lotus
trim valley
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Yeah unfortunately I live in a pretty urban environment, so the 2.4GHz bands are pretty congested, and theres not much I can do about it other than setting my personal wifi to a different channel, which I did.

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Network diagram looks pretty healthy to me, but idk what im looking for honestly lol

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switches are connecting directly to the bulbs they are closest to

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apparently all the signals are pretty strong shrug

hasty lotus
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The LQI level should be an indicator of an issue and it's not just the LQI of the switch to the next hop.

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There could be an issue between the bulb and its next hop.

novel mica
heady kayak
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It's just weird that the VALLHORN needs the rechargable batteries to work right. (as they run at 1.2 volts rather than 1.5 of regular AAAs)

sudden yarrow
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It kind of makes sense, as IKEA drifts away from regular batteries towards rechargable batteries, which they sell themselves. So I'm not surprised they optimize it for their own ecosystem.

ashen bluff
sour shadow
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Lots of false detections apparently

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There's been many reports on that

ashen bluff
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Yeah I just got the idea to google it myself 😄
Very strange behavior. The docs say this though

Open the battery lid and replace with two new AAA/HR03 batteries.
We recommend using LADDA rechargeable batteries. Please note they are sold separately.
and
Input: 2.4V, 2 x LADDA batteries HR03/AAA 1.2V

plucky panther
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Hi I'm having a problem where sometimes all of my zigbee devices just randomly stop responding. I used to have homebridge with Zigbee2mqtt which worked perfectly, but I now switched to home assistant with the normal ZHA integration and randomly all zigbee devices stop responding. I am not very familiar with ZHA so any help would be appreciated. I don't think this is an interference issue since it worked fine before on the same channel same place etc..
In the logs it seems to find devices and mark them as available but when turning them on or off they fail.
https://imgur.com/X0MtlZy

copper oracle
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One of my IKEA Parasoll sensors can't see opened or closed anymore. I have them linked via Z2MQQT, should I reconfigure the device?

sour shadow
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Try a fresh battery

heady kayak
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and try one of their rechargables, rather than a regular AAA (1.2v rather than 1.5)

copper oracle
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That could be a problem, we bought 1.2v batteries. I'll replace them and if it keeps happening I'll get 1.5v ones.

vapid gyro
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around here it is common:
1.5V alkaline batteries A,AA,AAA,C,D
1.2V the rechargables of same sizes
if they say use the LADDA, you can use any rechargables
get them from any convinient store or plain amazon.
and check if they are charged, not every brand charges them beforehand!!! 😆
With a little search you can get rechargables with way more capacity then the LADDAs = more life time before they need a recharge.

heady kayak
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I do like the idea of using AAAs rather than cr2032s. they have better capacity. especially over the rechargable 2032s

fleet knoll
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Hello all! New here, just trying to learn how to navigate the HA website. Seems a bit daunting to a new user.

Ppl say that there is a list on the website for all compatible lights, where can I find it?

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Trying to find Zigbee compatible lights, but all this stuff is a bit over my head lol

sour shadow
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There's no such list for HA

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There's lists managed by other people, which may or may not be accurate

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And there's lists for other software

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But not HA

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Buy Hue, Innr, Gledopto, or Tradfri and you'll be fine - particularly if you buy Zigbee 3.0 stuff

vapid gyro
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and just throwing it in: I do like the battery add-on for HA, giving me the ability to add battery/rechargable data to each sensor/device so I know which one to grab if the juice is running low. 🙂

fleet knoll
fleet knoll
timber gust
# novel mica Looking to swap out my CC2531 coordinator to something new, is there any reason ...

I'm in the UK. I bought my Sonoff CC2652P usb dongle coordinator from ebay. I was looking on ali express but all the super cheap deals I saw were either sold out by the time I tried to buy (was checking out their other items to make a bigger order), or weren't available to folk in the UK, so I had an ebay one in my basket from a seller who seemed to be more knowledgable and focussing on Zigbee/home automation (they might even be official Sonoff distributor here, saw some references that suggested that, they were helpful too). After a while of trying to find a better deal, they offered a few quid off deal (cos I had it in my basket) so I went for it. I'm surprised you can't get one easily enough in rest of EU somewhere - cos so many other sellers for it although quite a few were drop-ship slow delivery from China type places.

calm python
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Im thinking of buying the e-version of sonoff (efr32mg21) with my RPI 4 to controll zigbee devices through Home Assistant. Do i need a usb extension cord to get the ZBDongle-E away from the RPI 4 (ive read that some usb sticks get disturbance if they are to close to the RPI)

sour shadow
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Yes, you do

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Check the pins

calm python
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Ok, so how long usb extension cord is enough? So i get disturbance if I connect it directly into RPI 4?

What do you mean by "check the pins" ?

sour shadow
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The pinned messages

calm python
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I feel like an idiot. Where do i find the pinned messages? I dont find a channel called "pinned messages" and i dont seem to find any pinned messages when i scroll in this channel (# zigbee)

carmine hamlet
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see the pin?

image.png
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with the red dot?

calm python
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Gosh, thank you! Sorry!

sour shadow
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To the left of that is the clickable channel topic

ember night
austere patio
fleet knoll
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I was watching a video, trying to see which items I should buy to get my learning started. But I’m lost at the most important thing:

What is the best way to ‘connect’ our devices to HA? I wanted to buy this in hopes it would simplify things. But is it compatible? Is it Zigbee friendly?

https://www.amazon.com/Controller-Pre-Installed-Internal-Antenna-Designed/dp/B0CNLYV5PW?crid=34JSQ1MTEPHOB&keywords=wled%2Bcontroller&qid=1702937319&sprefix=wled%2Bcont,aps,129&sr=8-7&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=chrismaher-20&linkId=0311e6929aa361666d8d95c2ec2e0113&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

orchid tundra
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That's a WiFi device, not a Zigbee device. It'll work fine with HA regardless, since it runs WLED (HA and WLED pair quite nicely together)

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The "best" way to do stuff is a subject of debate, honestly. It really depends on what you want to use. My personal thought on the matter is I prefer Zigbee when possible, but the occasional WiFi device isn't bad

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Too many WiFi devices and you might overload your WiFi network. That's not something you'll likely encounter initially, but it can creep up on you if you keep getting more and more stuff

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Zigbee is a lot less susceptible to that

ember night
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Agreed. I have 51 zigbee devices and counting (been on Ha for just over a year

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Arguably the best zigbee coordinators are the ones that independently connect to ethernet. But I have had excellent connectivity with a Sonoff E dongle and ZHA, even when plugged in directly without extension cord (which is not recommended)

fleet knoll
fleet knoll
tropic depot
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Potential interference

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Signal noise

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Etc

ember night
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It has to do with interference

fleet knoll
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Good to know! Thanks!

orchid tundra
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Depending on a number of circumstances, plugging a coordinator directly into a USB port may make it unusable because of all the electrical signal noise

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It's a nice premade board, but this channel isn't exactly the best fit for this particular discussion

fleet knoll
orchid tundra
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💖

heady kayak
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USB3 tends to be noisy, in the radio frequency bands which zigbee operates in. It's not enough to cause a problem a short distance away, but close up it can drown out signals. using an extension lead, even a short one _and putting the controller away from the port) solves that problem. (if you use the cable, but double back and put it right next to the port, it doesn't help)

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An example someone made

stiff crow
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I have a device which was not setup successfully and now I cannot remove it.

wicked hemlock
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anyone has experience with the silvercrest smart plugs?

stiff crow
wicked hemlock
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hows the power monitoring?

stiff crow
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It works, but I think you need at least 3W.

wicked hemlock
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Well thats no issue for me

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And the repeating is not working?

stiff crow
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I guess it does somehow, but the range in general is not that good.

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But tbh I'm not 100% sure if it's an issue with the plug itself or if the place does not have signal at all.

wicked hemlock
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Well i just gonna order a set of 3 plugs then. For 25€ i think i will do nothing wrong with them

stiff crow
wicked hemlock
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Sky connect

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or what do we talk about?

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i just bought a sky connect and going to start and just installed HA on a VM today

stiff crow
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I see.

wary gulch
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Anyone else having "zigbee2mqtt" failing and restarting after the latest round of updates? Mine usually makes my devices 'unavailable' after a Google Home command or two...

languid sky
heady kayak
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Most aren't usb 3

languid sky
# heady kayak Most aren't usb 3

does it really matter, usb2 vs usb3? isn't this just electro–magnetism at work? i'm a total amateur, but i'd assume thats what shielding is for. is usb3 higher voltage or what…

languid sky
heady kayak
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If its just a charger, probably not.

languid sky
heady kayak
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Power is power. Not a lot of noise. Data causes noise.

languid sky
peak ocean
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Hello I just got a zigbee 3.0, do I need to switch all my devices from zha to zigbee 2 mqtt? Also will all my automation disappear because of the switch from zha to zigbee?

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I am very new to this so I am just learning about all this

lunar willow
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Hello I am new on Home Assistant and I have no background on programming and coding. All I do is watch YouTube videos and follow it step by step. I am currently having problem to make a wireless switch work on z2m. No triggers are available. The switches are aqara WXKG17LM and WXKG16LM
Maybe someone can help me here

topaz seal
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What does this ZHA error mean?

short sandal
sour shadow
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Hello I am new on Home Assistant and I

reef inlet
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in zha quirks, what part of it defines the "name" of the quirk visible within the HA device page?
ie mine is called Quirk: zhaquirks.tuya.ts0601_motion.MmwRadarMotionGPP" but i dont see anything within the .py file with that sort of name. I just wanted to make changes and to know 100% that it is using that new edited quirk (ie put a version number in the name)

edit: don't worry about it.

rocky nexus
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anyone have any issue with the silicon labs multiprotocol 2.4.4? suddenly couldn't start from today.

rugged swift
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Hey everyone 🙂 I just got an Aqara E1 radiator valve and I'm trying to connect it to Zigbee2MQTT but it's just saying "unsupported" and all I can see is the link quality. I'm at Z2M version 1.35.3

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The valve is about 2-3m away from the mini PC running home assistant with a zigbee (ezsp) stick.

sour shadow
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On 1.35.3 that should be supported, it was added long before that

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Maybe try re-pairing it

rugged swift
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already tried that once, same thing happened... let me try restarting the whole HA machine

sour shadow
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Reboot won't help

rugged swift
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I rebooted, un-paired and paired again and it's now working somehow 😄

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it's saying battery: 0 though

sour shadow
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Fresh battery may help - you don't know how old that battery is

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Or you may just need to wait for it to report correctly

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I usually give them 24 hours in case it's a reporting glitch

rugged swift
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it seems to slowly send more data

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fields are changing from "Null" to having values

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thank you very much @sour shadow 🙂

grim igloo
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tinkerer can you remove this pin #zigbee-archived message it looks like the issue is now closed and it's fixed. actually i just read to the bottom of the issue he closed then reopened then closed again... so should be good but only in dev branch atm.

sour shadow
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Done

mellow geode
dusk python
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What's the best zigbee dongle to get with z2m these days? My conbee 2 is finally dying under the network load

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I don't see a specific pin about sticks other than what not to buy

mellow geode
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For Z2M, basically any CC2652-based coordinator should be fine.

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Some people have issues with the Sonoff-P dongles randomly having "data corruption", but they're probably still fine.

sour shadow
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I'd get something CC2652p7 based

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Tube does one, and there's also the UZG

dusk python
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Ahh good to know

last rain
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Hi There, Noticed this morning that my Zigbee Yale lock becoming unavailable mutiple times (https://imgur.com/a/PAKmpgk), (checking it seems to be all Zigbee devices) which corresponds to the follwing in the HA log:

2024-02-15 06:14:21.838 ERROR (MainThread) [bellows.uart] Lost serial connection: ConnectionResetError('Remote server closed connection') 2024-02-15 06:14:21.839 ERROR (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart 2024-02-15 06:14:21.944 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.dispatcher] Unable to remove unknown dispatcher <bound method GroupProbe._reprobe_group of <homeassistant.components.zha.core.discovery.GroupProbe object at 0x7f1a58621130>>

Any ideas on where to start with this one?

mellow geode
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What Zigbee coordinator are you using?

last rain
tropic depot
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Multiprotocol is not working well (it’s experimental)

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And is a known issue and was discussed on the last release stream

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If you need stability you need to ditch multiprotocol

last rain
mellow geode
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You can. If you already have Apple/Google devices that function as Thread border routers (with HA showing them in the Thread integration panel), they'll already be used for Thread without you having to do anything.

last rain
half carbon
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Hi there. I have a couple of Miboxer/Milight 2.4G RF light systems running. And inwas wondering of there are any people here who know of a possible RF to Zigbee bridge like the Gledopto RF to Zigbee bridge (https://www.gledopto.eu/zigbee-rf-bridge-miboxer-gledopto-eng) that is nowhere to get and discontinued?

languid sky
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I've just bought Nous A1Z ZigBee smart socket. Paired it with ZHA. It's worked for a few minutes, then stopped communicating with HA.

I have a few other ZigBee devices that behave the same way (a Tuya thermometer for example). I'm starting to think there is some problem with my setup…

  • HAOS: latest
  • Sonoff Dongle–P, CC2652, Firmware: Z-Stack 20230507 (on a long USB2 cable, ~1 meter from the PC hosting HA, ~1 meter from a WiFi router)
  • Nous A1Z, TS011F by _TZ3000_2putqrmw, Firmware: 0x0000004d (it was reporting 100+ LQI before it stopped communicating)
  • Tuya Aubess Temp&Humid Sensor, TS0201 by _TZ3000_xr3htd96

Is this setup not fully supported yet (hence, it "might not work", or needs some quirk, or anything), or is there something wrong with my setup?

Before the Nous, I was blaming Tuya for misbehaviours, but with Nous I was under the impression, that they should just work…

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One more thing: all the Zigbee devices become unavailable for a few seconds, every X–time. Usually when I open Lovelace, it shows the data in cards, suddenly they all become unavailable and come back after a few seconds. Is it normal? Maybe I have some kind of mess that needs to be resolved?

proven frigate
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I'm trying to determine if I'm hitting the limit on my sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle. I'm trying to add the 33rd device and getting that it's starting the interview and just hangs.

I did see that your zigbee devices will mesh and extend the upper limit - how do I determine if my devices will mesh and extend my 32 device limit?

grim igloo
proven frigate
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ahh cool. I do have 3 sengled bulbs, here's the info on one of them:

Device info
Z01-A19NAE26
by sengled
Firmware: 0x0000002e
Zigbee info
IEEE: b0:ce:18:14:03:02:f6:a4
Nwk: 0x5b86
Device Type: EndDevice
LQI: 75
RSSI: Unknown
Last seen: 2024-02-14T17:42:43
Power source: Mains

Using these, should I automatically be able to extend my 32 device limit? Do I need to take any action?

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love your username btw 🤣

grim igloo
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well you dont take any action either way the mesh is out of our control for the most part

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thx me too :x

proven frigate
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oh, so how do I enable them to mesh/extend my limit?

grim igloo
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i gave youtube a shot and figured i needed a name and just attempting youtube made me feel like a sellout, but also tongue in cheek it sounded funny

grim igloo
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Our engineers made this distinction as repeaters require constant power, but people may still switch off their bulbs by a wall switch.

With no power to the repeater, other end devices may disconnect.```
proven frigate
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ohhhh sorry I misunderstood

grim igloo
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what other devices do you have? like hue bulbs or some plugs or?

proven frigate
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I do have some hue bulbs as well, yeah

grim igloo
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in general we dont suggest sengled here

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they also are terrible for transition compared to hue which are perfect

grim igloo
proven frigate
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gotcha. I will probably replace them then, thank you!

grim igloo
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are you killing power to any mains devices like bulbs?

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cuz this is a bad thing

proven frigate
grim igloo
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devices have next hop routes that they need to communicate with the zigbee coordinator. if a device loses power, another device that depends on it is now stuck in the mud

grim igloo
proven frigate
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ahh ok. well I'm glad I asked! ha.

grim igloo
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the solution here is to buy zigbee light swiches, such as inovelli blue switches for $50 each if you're in the usa

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and then you can either make home assistant control the switch and the bulb, or bind them where they directly communicate + have home assistant control

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OR, you buy smart switches/dimmers only and use dumb bulbs

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but then you lose out on rgbw and color temp and just generally the awesomeness that hue bulbs are -.-

grim igloo
proven frigate
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P

grim igloo
proven frigate
grim igloo
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ya prob just a weak mesh man

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what device is it?

proven frigate
grim igloo
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i mean the one you want to pair

proven frigate
grim igloo
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you can actually flash router firmware to that and make it just be a repeater (the usb stick itself)

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like if you bought a second lol

proven frigate
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I saw that, that's cool, yeah I figured that's what you meant

#

so if I move the final location of the dongle itself, that's bad for mesh as well, right? what can I do to reset the mesh?

grim igloo
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so i would expect all of those in your walls currently to be repeaters

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the little zbmini

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err wait fuck

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okay you ready for some bad news

proven frigate
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lol yes

grim igloo
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i think these (and most sonoff devices) are bad buys compared to other things

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i am not 100% but i believe some sonoff devices blackhole routes

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and i want to say the zbmini sure sounds like that device

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let me do the googles

proven frigate
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:(. well that sucks, but I can return them. what's the recommended like-device?

grim igloo
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basically there's just some device manufacturers that release half-baked shit especially in the firmware department

proven frigate
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yeah and I doubt these are flashable via regular means. boo

grim igloo
grim igloo
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but the manufacturer has to provide them or they have to be sniffed out like hue is

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and a chinese company like sonoff just dont care

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i think people buy shelly wifi little relays mostly

proven frigate
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are the ones you recommened above bulky? I'll check them out

grim igloo
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imo if you're wanting smarts, the smart switches are just a better play

grim igloo
proven frigate
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yeah that's what I was trying to avoid, can't fit a 2nd bulky guy in some of my workboxes

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and I'm not technically in a forever home so I'm dreading the day I go through and rip them all out, or I guess I just take the L

grim igloo
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depending on model, smart switches can do single tap, double tap, 3x/4x/5x, hold, long hold, etc. then some also even have an LED on them like the inovelli blue that people use with automations such as "sync led to alarm status"

grim igloo
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i have every smart switch in the house do 1 tap = 100% brightness 2 taps = 30%

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you teach the guest one time and they love it

proven frigate
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probably something I can figure out on my own, but are there any that replace two switches? i.e. one bulky switch that can replace my dumb light and fan switch, and control them separately?

grim igloo
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yes

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but 1. it's zwave not zigbee (you get to start over with no mesh problems lol)

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  1. there's only the one model i know of and you cant go over 3 amps due to inrush current and physics
proven frigate
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z-wave is fine, that's actually the existing bulky switch I have in there rn

grim igloo
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i have one in my upstairs bathroom and like it

proven frigate
grim igloo
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no

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read the manufacturer spec of the fan and confirm <3amps and if you're not sure then email zooz and they'll reply fast and confirm

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the relay for the light or the "decora" style paddle above the tiny second button cant do a fan

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and there's no fan control speed but fine for a bathroom

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but imo the even better way now is just buy a damn fancy fan with a built in humidity sensor to turn on/off itself

proven frigate
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yeah i don't need the speeds

grim igloo
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otherwise you need to automate with a humidity sensor to turn it on for shower

proven frigate
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that might be for whenever I move into a forever home, just looking for the quick solution for on/off for now

grim igloo
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ok

proven frigate
grim igloo
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ye it's all in the directions it ships with

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and shows the wiring diagram options

proven frigate
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awesome, yeah it has some of that on the pics carousel as well. this was amazing help, thank you so much! very appreciated

grim igloo
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np

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that's the one i have and like

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the guy who makes them @ tube is active here and has good customer support

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i wont ping him on vday 😛

proven frigate
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ooo I might just try this first. I have some available PoE ports. I can just connect it to my network and adopt? I'm thinking try this first, then the z-wave switch if I still have issues

grim igloo
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well

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this replaces the p dongle completely and you have to migrate

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but it's pretty painless iirc for cc2652p5 to 222652p7

proven frigate
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that's fine

grim igloo
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it's not a re-pair-all-the-things

proven frigate
#

I can get a couple of these and return my zigbee

grim igloo
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wait what

proven frigate
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thanks again!

grim igloo
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a couple?

proven frigate
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sorry return my sonoff zigbee dongle

grim igloo
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this completely replaces the sonoff p dongle it's your coordinator you only want one

proven frigate
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oh oh damn sorry misunderstood again

grim igloo
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but idk i wouldnt

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i upgraded from a sonoff p dongle to this myself and just got rid of the p dongle

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this product allows you to centrally locate the zigbee coordinator instead of the sonoff dongle hanging off a pi or server or something

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and generally is just a better coordinator with a newer chipset which should support bigger meshes in the future

proven frigate
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and it doesn't need a pi, just a PoE connection to your network?

grim igloo
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yepperz

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another added benefit is no usb port so no usb interference anywhere around it

proven frigate
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yeah I think this is the route to go with. thanks again!

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I'll also replace my sengled bulbs 😆

grim igloo
proven frigate
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I have a few signify & osram bulbs leftover from my smarthings days. any issues with those and zigbee specs like sengled?

grim igloo
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signify owns philips so they might be okay but honestly i have no idea i'll let someone else jump in

proven frigate
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looks like HA is calling out sengled as end devices and these show as routers

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not sure if I should trust that or not tho

molten linden
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signify basically means Hue.

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good routers

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Sengled 🤢

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Osram 🤮

grim igloo
grim igloo
molten linden
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I never had a stable zigbee mesh until I ditched all osram bulbs.

grim igloo
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interesting

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what about those sonoff zbmini2 he linked above

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are those the ones that blackhole routes?

molten linden
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osram/slyvania branded ledvance bulbs are better but generally not zigbee 3.0

proven frigate
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The zbmini are listed as end devices in HA

molten linden
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not as much expirence with the zbmini2

grim igloo
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ah not ideal

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either way join team smart switch

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the grass is greener 😛

proven frigate
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Now that I know what I'm looking at they are. Osram listed as routers, sounds like that's a lie

molten linden
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they are, they just black hole traffic

grim igloo
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sorry to say bro.. your mesh emanates small peen energy

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gotta kill it with fire

proven frigate
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Is that Ajit Pai? 🤢🤮🤮

grim igloo
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it's the closest we're gonna get to a kek emoji here

last rain
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Hey all, is the SkyConnect the best if I just want to run Zigbee with ZHA?

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Alot of my stuff is Hue without the hub FYI.

ashen bluff
rapid dawnBOT
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There is no universal best anything. There's always trade-offs, you need to explain:

  • Your priorities/desired features
  • Where in the world you are
  • Your budget
  • Any protocols that you'd prefer (eg Zigbee) or want to avoid (eg Zigbee)
smoky anvil
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Hello team, not sure if there is any Z2M users here but worth a shot... when the map show devices link to each other but shows other device not link to anything, what does it mean? I have 6 lights that function as normal but when the map loads it does not show them connected. How ever it does show connected as sibling. Ideas?

rapid dawnBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

ashen bluff
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When describing something you see it's often a good idea to share that thing 🙂

smoky anvil
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to the outer side of the first image you can see lights not link

ashen bluff
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I've seen this a few times but never saw a single/universal thing that caused it.

smoky anvil
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they work

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is not like they don't lol, but wanted to know if it means something that I should be concerned

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add more routers, etc...

ashen bluff
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Maybe there's some LQI related messages in the log.

smoky anvil
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soooo much going on LOL

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info 2024-02-14 20:53:53MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Living Room Light 1', payload '{"brightness":18,"linkquality":123,"power_on_behavior":"on","state":"OFF","update":{"installed_version":-1,"latest_version":-1,"state":null},"update_available":null}'
info 2024-02-14 20:53:59MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Living Room Light 1', payload '{"brightness":18,"linkquality":123,"power_on_behavior":"on","state":"ON","update":{"installed_version":-1,"latest_version":-1,"state":null},"update_available":null}'

smoky anvil
rugged swift
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What does temperature_periodic_support do in the settings of a temp/humidity sensor?

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it goes from 0 to 100

small token
#

or is there a better current list

austere bridge
hard swift
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how many devices for each node and limited devices for coordinator

sour shadow
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What do you mean?

hard swift
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i mean how many devices can add to each node zigbee and total how many devices of the coordinator

ivory shuttle
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depends on the routers and the coordinator

hard swift
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i use sonoff dongle-p

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and for each node I use the switch itself and the circuit breaker as a router

sour shadow
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Total devices is > 100, exactly how much depends on your devices and mesh

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How many connections each router device supports depends on the device, somewhere from 4 to 50 (or so)

hard swift
calm python
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Hi, I just got my Sonoff Zigbee dongle which I have integrated with ZHA.

I´ve added my Hue Gradient Signe floor lamps as well as my Hue Surimu. However it seems that in Home Assistant I´m only able to set a single light for the Signe floor lamps. They should have 3 individually controlled zones.

Am I missing something here? Do I need a Hue Bridge to be able to get all the functionalities with my Hue devices?

rugged swift
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Hey, I have an Aqara E1 thermostat and I'm feeding it with data from an external sensor but now it holds 23,5°C in the room but I have it set to 20,5°C

daring ibex
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Hi guys, ever since the latest Zigbee2mqtt update, I have been having issues with my devices. I can't seem to be able to control them anymore, at all. All I receive are these error messages:
error 2024-02-15 18:08:30Publish 'set' 'state' to 'Living - Amplifier' failed: 'Error: Command 0x3425b4fffef79e12/1 genOnOff.on({}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (117))'
error 2024-02-15 18:08:31Publish 'set' 'brightness' to 'Living - table light' failed: 'Error: Command 0x90ab96fffe6d35db/1 genLevelCtrl.moveToLevelWithOnOff({"level":236,"transtime":10}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (118))'
error 2024-02-15 18:08:32Publish 'set' 'brightness' to 'Living - Window light' failed: 'Error: Command 0x90fd9ffffedfc0d7/1 genLevelCtrl.moveToLevelWithOnOff({"level":236,"transtime":0}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (120))'

#

I am using a Conbee stick, and have about 30 devices which all used to work

grim igloo
daring ibex
#

I'm on 1.35.3. I believe they issued a hotfix, which seemed to fix the problem. But coming home today, and I can't seem to turn the light on again

austere river
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Does anyone know of a good thread or page where I can read about the differences between zha and z2m?

finite pawn
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I run zha with a Sonoff 3.0 dongle and lots of devices (120ish), mostly plugged in stuff. I bought a four-pack of Third Reality door (binary) sensors the other day on Amazon. Three of them paired up as expected, but one of them had a complication and I had to delete it and start over. Now it has its main output listed as "IAS zone" instead of "Opening" like the others. Other issues: the firmware version does not show up on the device page and the battery level says "Unknown" instead of 97 percent or whatever like the other three.

I have tried deleting the device, rebooting my home assistant machine, and then re-adding it, but it adds correctly (like the other three identical sensors). At one point it was showing up in the zigbee device list, but the page for the device had no "three dots" menu with the remove option. When this happened I deleted references to the device in the core.device_registry, core.entity_registry, core.restore_state. After this I could add the device again, but it STILL shows up with IAS zone, no firmware info, and a non-working battery level sensor.

What do I do here? Thanks.

deep plover
#

I really need to get this working, I have home assistant os on a rpi 4, I plugged the the skyconnect usb into the pi with using the extender yet the pi doesn’t detect the dongle under hardware at all, I’ve tried extending it further from any obstructions, I just don’t know what to do that it won’t work

small token
deep plover
fleet knoll
#

TheAppleFreak, Tinkerer

I took what y’all said and purchased the Green and SkyConnect the other day! I’m excited for it to get here. Should be here tomorrow or so.

As I wait, figured it would be a good idea to watch some vids and such. This video… confused me. Isn’t QuinLED & WLED not compatible with Zigbee? This guy, with 100% zigbee setup, just used it with his setup. How does he do it??

https://youtu.be/dXpXlOBR3RQ?si=Guf4MHqbYihN_0Ac

sudden yarrow
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WLED is running via WiFi, so it will be recognized through your network connection

fleet knoll
#

Wait… so he’s NOT running 100% zigbee then.

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Hmmm clickbait lol

austere patio
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As long as your events end up in some central place (i.e. HA), you can react to button presses on a Zigbee scene controller and then trigger both WiFi and Zigbee lights at the same time. The underlying protocol sort of becomes irrelevant once they're all in HA.

fleet knoll
#

Ohh I see. So is there a way to get the same effect as in the video with strictly Zigbee lights?

(and not using two additional systems for me to learn?)

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Side note:
In order to get addressable lights to be ‘seen’ on HA, do you need a controller thing or do some Zigbee devices come with the ability to be seen/controlled already?

(If this question doesn’t make sense I’m sorry. Very new)

carmine hamlet
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you need a Zigbee coordinator to communicate with Zigbee devices

fleet knoll
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Pretty sure just the one right

carmine hamlet
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yes, and just one

ivory shuttle
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a zigbee mesh requires precisely 1 coordinator, cannot have 2, cannot have zero. The skyconnect with the zigbee firmware is a coordinator.

fleet knoll
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Thank you both! Getting into addressable lights and such is so cool but a little complex to me in the beginning lol

short sandal
#

Theoretical question as I have no real interest but: is there any way to do high availability of Home Assistant with a USB Zigbee modem? Just curious. Eg: PSU fails on active box etc.

small token
languid sky
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I want to start over with ZHA. IDK, maybe I've got some kind of mess that a clean start will fix.

I removed all the devices from ZHA, shut off HA, disconnected the dongle from USB, waited 30 min.

What else should I do? Any files I should delete before connecting the dongle back to USB and maybe yet another restart?

#

Any "hard reset" procedure for Sonoff Dongle–P?

mellow geode
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I doubt you'll need to, but you can delete the zigbee.db file in your /config directory.

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To completely reset the Dongle-P, re-flash the firmware.

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For now, Z-Stack 20221226 is recommended, as newer versions have issues with randomly crashing.

dense zenith
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So I bought a bunch of Tuya Temp/Humidity sensors (zigbee). I did it a bit rashly on Aliexpress and subsequently have read lots of negative things about Tuya and it sounds like there are/were challenges in integrating with HA without use of Tuya cloud. Could anyone tell me what the best approach is in 2024? thanks
(I have the rectangular one that looks like this btw https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41B1DjdFjbL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg

sour shadow
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Good news, you said they're Zigbee so you can set up a Zigbee mesh

#
  1. Pick ZHA (part of HA) or Zigbee2MQTT (external to HA)
  2. Buy a recommended coordinator
  3. Buy some (Zigbee) router devices
  4. Profit
dense zenith
#

I I've got Zigbee2MQTT already set-up and conrolling some Hue lights.

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Is it just a matter of adding a device and searching for the Tuya brand?

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Its just that the tuya search result has a little cloud icon, I assumed I don't want that

sour shadow
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Just pair it, like any other Zigbee device

dense zenith
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So in Home Assistant --> Settings --> Devices and Services --> Devices tab --> Add Device

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Then I select the Tuya brand with the cloud logo?

sour shadow
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No

dense zenith
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I think for my lights I cycled power to get them paired. Can't see any buttons on the Tuya sensor at all... They better not have sent me the wifi version!

sour shadow
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You want to add it to your Zigbee mesh, correct?

dense zenith
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yes

sour shadow
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Then ... your mesh is handled by Zigbee2MQTT, correct?

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You want to use Zigbee2MQTT to pair the device

dense zenith
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ah yes, of course - sorry, being a bit dim

fleet knoll
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Does this apply to BTF Lighting lights too?

sour shadow
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Are they Zigbee?

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Or, have you replaced the controller with a Zigbee one?

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If so, yes

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If not, no

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If none of that makes sense... then who knows

fleet knoll
# sour shadow Are they Zigbee?

That is the part I’m trying to figure out. The naming system for lights is very strange to me. Idk what a WS vs SK is or what the following numbers represent. I’m still working on that.

I have the SkyConnect if that’s what you’re asking.

sour shadow
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Well... nobody can help you if you don't provide details

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Odds are about 100% that the strips are just strips, and that the controller is what matters

fleet knoll
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Thank you! I’ll check that link rn!

bold nymph
#

Can I group multiple Aqara D1 light switches in Z2M?

hasty prairie
#

noob here. how do I repair a zigbee device in the zha integration? I changed the channel I'm using to get a little farther away from my 2.5ghz wifi bands but now my one (and only) sensor isn't reporting in :/

#

I tried "reconfigure" but that didn't do anything

ember night
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You have to go through the same procedure as when you first paired the device. Typically some button press or combination on the device. Sometimes the device needs to be reset first, this is device-dependent and should be in the manual

hasty prairie
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👍

ember night
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Basically, your device is still looking for your coordinator on the old channel...

languid sky
fleet knoll
grim igloo
fleet knoll
grim igloo
fleet knoll
# grim igloo well there are like philips hue led strips that could be paired to zha/z2m but t...

I’m not certain I exactly KNOW anything about this world. I know what I want, which is to have a lot of home automation simply because it’s cool. All local & a strong non WiFi network. Accent & general lighting in the Kitchen, bathroom, bedroom etc.

I’m under the impression this can all be achieved by lights compatible with Zigbee. I believe I should download/install zha on my Green.

But honestly, the more I watch or read, it seems like I’m getting further away from really knowing what I NEED. Now that video is saying that I should probably learn about adding fuses and power injections… just rolling with it day by day.

halcyon owl
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I just received a lock for the front door Aqara U100. it has a M2 hub with it. I don’t really care if the lock ties into HA or not. When I’m concerned about, however, is this M2 hub has Zigbee running on it I understand there is a way to tie it into HA but the concern I have is the second hub in my house will that interfere with any of the Zigbee stuff that’s already running? maybe the signals see this hub but realized it doesn’t need to go there so they just bypass it I don’t know. It just wondering if it’s going to screw up my existing network.

bold nymph
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There’s 16 endpoint for each light switch, binding the “left” or “center” does nothing

ocean cloak
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Has anyone else had issues with their FP1 since the firmware update 1-2 months ago? I have two and after a day or two it gets stuck in "away" state and won't detect presence

carmine hamlet
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I've had that sort of issue on and off since I got them, including after the firmware update. They work fine most of the time, but I'll periodically notice that lights are staying on and it's stuck in "enter" mode. I don't think I ever see my stuck in "leave" or "away" mode, but I suspect it's a similiar issue

sour shadow
drowsy quarry
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I've the HA Green with the Sonoff Plus-E. I'm a huge newbie here. I've installed the mosquitto and z2m , but z2m isn't starting., I've disabled ZHA. None of the guides are helping. Do I need to flash firmware to get the z2m rolling?. adapter: ezsp isn't working either

sour shadow
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When the add-on doesn't start it produces a log telling you why

young cypress
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Hi all, how is the Right way to add a new Zigbee OTA provider firmware sever to HA?

drowsy quarry
sour shadow
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You know... if you were to share the log (and your Z2M config) then we could actually help you 😉

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Just saying "error" doesn't help anybody

drowsy quarry
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Yeah sorry. I'll restart the convo / self complain when I get home later to my lovely HA system. I was just asking blindly if there were some very usual suspects when it didn't work out of the box following the guides

sour shadow
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There's too many to count

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You've done the equivalent of phoning the car garage and asking them what the strange sound from the car is, while not having the car with you or them

ember raven
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What would be the most stable way to get my radiator TRV to use the input temperature from an external sensor (both Aqara)? I think they way I do it right now seems glitchy, and I got some feedback here that it might not be the best way. Right now I publish the external sensor value to the radiator every time the sensor changes, using an automation.

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I intermittently get errors (one example:)

2024-02-16 10:24:54Publish 'set' 'sensor' to 'Small Study Radiator' failed: 'Error: Write 0x54ef4410006fdbae/1 manuSpecificLumi({"65522":{"value":[170,113,52,68,19,90,2,65,49,101,207,41,218,61,5,84,239,68,16,0,111,219,174,0,21,141,0,1,157,27,152,8,0,7,253,22,10,2,10,201,232,177,184,212,218,207,223,192,235,0,0,0,0,0,1,61,4,101],"type":65}}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":4447,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (35))'
sour shadow
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Z2M or ZHA?

rapid dawnBOT
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@earnest grail I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
sour shadow
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The coordinator is on a USB extension cable?

ember raven
sour shadow
ember raven
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And I have a ConbeeII on an extension cable.

earnest grail
sour shadow
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You picked a channel clear of WiFi?

ember raven
# sour shadow The blueprint works for me

There's a specific blueprint for this? Does it also include forcing the TRV to stay on external sensor? It seems that's still an issue that it keeps jumping to internal

sour shadow
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Yes

ember raven
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Maybe it's not related, but I'm getting some strange errors that I've never seen, in the UI of Z2M:

zigbee-herdsman-converters:lumi_trv: Unknown key 641 = 4��84�4

and others similar to that with different numbers

earnest grail
ember raven
sour shadow
earnest grail
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New devices are coming today and I will surely try. The device works correctly with the manufacturer gateway though

sour shadow
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You may also want to downgrade to the 2021 firmware

ember raven
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Oh I see the blueprint does check the internal/external sensor, nice!

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Do you think the errors I shared could be related, or does that sound different? I noticed because the TRV is going crazy constantly opening and closing the valve, so I went to investigate

sour shadow
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Probably different, but then my own is well behaved

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Maybe try some fresh batteries?

earnest grail
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Let's see how it goes, tyvm

ember raven
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Is there any preferred host for sharing a screenshot?

sour shadow
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Not really, just not pasteboard

ember raven
sour shadow
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Keep in mind that battey level reporting can be ... quite wrong

ember raven
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Yes indeed, that I get. but a battery should last longer than 3 months 😄

earnest grail
sour shadow
rapid dawnBOT
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@earnest grail When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
earnest grail
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I will wait for some new devices and try to pinpoint the problem, thank you again

ember raven
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I hear my TRV opening and closing the whole time, and it keeps jumping to Calibrated: False. Is there a specific log I can look at to find the problem, or is your suggestion still to try and see if it's a battery issue>?

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Ah! I see it keeps going into setup mode (F11 on the screen), and then it calibrates if I press it 3 times, and then a few seconds later it goes back into F11

sour shadow
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That sounds like a device problem, not a Z2M/HA problem

ember raven
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Yeah, will do some more troubleshooting and then contact Aqara if needede

limpid girder
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HI,
since this morning I have not been able to control and receive updates from zigbee devices. I have an error on zigbee2mqtt on all devices like : xxxx

I tried restarting zigbee2mqtt and everything started working again for a while and then returned to the error after a while.

sour shadow
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What's the error?

limpid girder
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sorry, the error is

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-02-16 14:26:42: Publish 'set' 'state' to 'Interruttore tavolo' failed: 'Error: Command 0x000474000094c735/1 genOnOff.on({}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (125))'

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but looking at the logs I notice that I have a log at 12.50 and the next error log at 2.26pm, as if z2m was no longer receiving any updates. In fact, now it records errors only when trying to turn devices on or off

sour shadow
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What coordinator, and what firmware version?

limpid girder
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conbee2 but i don't know how verify the firmware version or how can update it

sour shadow
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Z2M shows you the version

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You have put the ConBee on a USB extension cable?

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You have checked that your chosen Zigbee channel is clear of WiFi?

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You need any Zigbee coordinator

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The pinned messages have lots of useful info

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Yes, but the Sonoff P (CC2652) should be avoided

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The Sonoff E is fine, at least if you're not using Zigbee2MQTT for your Zigbee stack

limpid girder
limpid girder
limpid girder
sour shadow
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No

sour shadow
limpid girder
sour shadow
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You have the last known good version, see the key word newer 😉

ivory shuttle
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Sno, sonoff devices are all either WiFi or ZigBee.
But your pc doesn't have ZigBee. The sonoff usb dongle is the usb to ZigBee adapter. Without it home assistant can't communicate with ZigBee devices

sour shadow
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But you can use (almost) any Zigbee "dongle"

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Zigbee != WiFi

ivory shuttle
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No. ZigBee is its own thing

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Just same as your WiFi isn't your phone's LTE and WiFi isn't bluetooth

sour shadow
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Zigbee is a radio protocol (and other bits), a bit like Bluetooth (or Z-Wave, or Thread)

limpid girder
ivory shuttle
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Zigbee networks need one (and precisely 1, not 0 or 2+) "coordinator" which acts a lot like your central point of contact. The sonoff dongle (among others) is the coordinator. Then the ZHA or ZigBee2mqtt add-ons for home assistant allow home assistant to connect to the dongle, and in turn add ZigBee devices to your home assistant setup.

vocal tree
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I'm looking for advice on radio planning for Zigbee, WiFi & Thread. I have four Wifi APs operating on the non-overlapping 1-6-11 channels. Three Hue bridges on channels 11, 15 and 20. A primary Zigbee network with most of my devices on channel 11 (Sonoff ZBDongle-E), a secondary Zigbee (need to get rid of this) running my electricity meter on channel 25 and Thread on 25 (both on a skyconnect multiprotocol). The Thread network is really busy, nearly 50 end/router devices and 13 thread border routers.

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One of my hue bridges had issues with unreachable bulbs, looked and saw it was on channel 25, changed it to 15

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but still having issues

sour shadow
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Any reason you're not moving all the devices from Hue to ZHA/Zigbee2MQTT?

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That'll solve a lot/all of any Hue related problems

vocal tree
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Just that I've only recently deployed home assistant... if the hue & ikea bulbs will work reliably on zigbee2mqtt that would probably work OK

sour shadow
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Yes, they do

vocal tree
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including firmware updates?

sour shadow
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Yes

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(not that you always want those)

vocal tree
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OK... that sounds like a plan. I got a fiance complaint this morning "why do the lights never work for me" so I got to get on that ASAP. What would be reasonable limits for numbers of devices on a single zigbee coordinator/channel?

sour shadow
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Somewhere between 100 and 300 depending on your setup

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Most people find that problems start appearing around 150 to 200 devices, but sooner for very chatty ones, and later for ones that talk less

vocal tree
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Would hue bulbs be generally chatty? I have up to 60 hue bulbs in the largest room

sour shadow
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Probably not

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Things like power level monitoring plugs tend to be the problem

vocal tree
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I have only 4-5 of those, the remainder are all on thread