zigbee-archived

[vivid jay]

I have what is probably a silly question..
I'm using HA on a Rpi4 (I guess HA core?)
I got some tuya/loginovo M100 human presence sensors recently.
The issue is they get detected by ZHA and only expose LQI/RSSI

I can either go with zigbee2mqtt or use ZHA quirks.. Given I already got a sizeable amount of zigbee devices and saw no way to migrate from z2m -> zha (apparently the other way works) I wanted to use the quirk.

The issue is everytime it tells me it cannot find the directory (as a result zha fails to load completely - kind of an extreme reaction I feel)

When I use the file editor in HA, I see the 'root' folder seems to be homeassistant
I created a folder called zha_quirks there and added the line to my configuration.yaml as custom_quirks_path: /homeassistant/zha_quirks/
And also tried custom_quirks_path: .homeassistant/zha_quirks/ and custom_quirks_path: homeassistant/zha_quirks/

Would love to know what I'm doing wrong so I can move on with my day haha

I would post some screenshots but it won't let me

[vivid jay]

oh and the error I got was

Invalid config for 'zha' at configuration.yaml, line 70: not a directory for dictionary value 'zha->custom_quirks_path', got '/homeassistant/zha_quirks/', please check the docs at https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha

[foggy solar]

Before I buy another Ikea Zigbee plug, are there any better alternatives at a similar price point? (£15)

[vivid jay]

I think the P version of sonoff is pretty good.. or just get the sky one from HA (includes thread) but more expensive I think

[foggy solar]

My bad, should have explained better - it's a zigbee plug socket, not a zigbee dongle.

[vivid jay]

oh sorry, then I don't know 🙂 for sockets I tend to use wifi

[solar sluice]

In my case the quirks folder is in the config and I have no issues
The option looks like:
custom_quirks_path: /config/custom_zha_quirks/

[vivid jay]

Thank you. yeah I tried that.. btw initially I could NOT find the config folder so I made one in the homeassistant folder.. no good

[solar sluice]

Where is your configuration.yaml located?

[vivid jay]

in the homeassistant folder Is there a channel where I can post a screenshot?

[rapid dawn]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[carmine hamlet]

No need to post a picture of a directory, though

[vivid jay]

https://imgur.com/a/GMKgIDs

[vivid jay]

you never know how mad people you're talking to are on the internet 🤣

[maiden cliff]

I am@having a lot of trouble pairing/repairing with a couple of ikea remotes, both the 2 and 4 button varieties. There’s not something known that should make me stop banging my head against it, right?

[ashen bluff]

Try to keep them awake by short pressing one of their buttons every second or so during pairing. Also try to pair closer to the coordinator.

[maiden cliff]

Every second?! Okay, wow, I’m not sure I’ve been that enthusiastic yet. Next time I get a few minutes, then.

[main condor]

In serial i have:
port: /dev/ttyACM0
adapter: deconz

[maiden cliff]

As a tangent — are there any remotes that are not hugely overpriced, and also as good quality hardware wise as the ikea ones? Especially the AAA based four button just Does Not Run Out Of Battery.

And the Chinese ones are very cheap, but they look it, too.

[vivid jay]

https://imgur.com/a/GMKgIDs forgot to mention you

[solar sluice]

Never paid attention to that before, but apparently "config" is a link to "homeassistant" folder (mine is also running on the RPi)
Maybe try still a path via "config" (/config/...), but with folder beside your configuration.yaml

[austere patio]

When you say "manual restart", do you mean of the addon, or of the device? What radio are you using?

[maiden cliff]

When I reset it, it Leaves The Network, and then it Starts Interview, and from that point I can see mqtt publishing the button presses I’m doing, but it still gives Interview Failed. https://imgur.com/a/4vJFb4X

That’s with it 10cm away from the usb stick.

[ashen bluff]

Try to enable debug logging. Might give a bit more information: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/usage/debug.html#enabling-logging
Maybe you pressed too fast or my suggestion is a bad idea for this specific device. Not quite sure. See the pairing notes: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/E2001_E2002.html#pairing

[maiden cliff]

Ah, this time it worked. Not sure what I did better. Maybe turbo mg off and on again the ability to join mqtt?

Only, I’m pretty sure I had it rejoined properly a few days ago as well, and that didn’t seem to have stuck.

Thank you for the help!

[vivid jay]

It worked!! omg I've been on this all day and it was so simple (as I said in my original message 🤦🏻‍♂️ ) Is this documented anywhere?

[solar sluice]

Not sure 🤷‍♂️. I don't remember how I got my configuration end up like that (but I don't remember having any problems)
I guess it has something to do with the whole docker image organisation and what exactly gets exposed (in terms of the filesystem) to those images

[ashen bluff]

The cool thing is that it's not consistent 👍

[hybrid cloud]

When I restart the add-on I mean. I'm using the skyconnect

[austere patio]

You don't unplug the SkyConnect or physically reboot anything, right? Just restart the addon?

[hybrid cloud]

Correct

I believe I have to restart the zha integration afterwards to get it to work (maybe the zha integration would fix itself after restarting the add-on if I waited and I'm just impatient), but 99% of the time that fixes this issue, no rebooting anything or unplugging any physical device

[mellow geode]

Not really. Using /homeassistant for addons was a recent change. Did you see that folder name whilst using some addon?
For the HA container, "the config/HA directory" is still mounted at /config, hence why ZHA couldn't find the directory before.

[vivid jay]

I see that folder name when I open File Editor and pick a folder. It shows the structure as having 'homeassistant' as top folder. So naturally I tried pointing to that 😦
See link: https://imgur.com/a/GMKgIDs

[mellow geode]

Ah, yeah. We should probably add an example using /config/custom_zha_quirks to the docs and/or state that it's /config for HA and not /homeassistant

[solar sluice]

Yes, please 😃

[mellow geode]

There's some more info about why that change was made in these PRs btw:

• https://github.com/home-assistant/supervisor/pull/4697
• https://github.com/home-assistant/supervisor/pull/4702

[solar sluice]

tbh, didn't really understand why HA itself didn't get additionally /homeassistant mounted, pointing to the same location as config

But for sure this has to be reflected in the documentation

[brave jungle]

Hello to all... I would be greatfull is soemone could guide me in the good direction to have Z2MQTT working... In fact I already have ZHA with a Skyconnect key, but want to try Z2MQTT with a Conbee2 I was using in the past, because there are a lot more devices available with Z2MQTT.
I have well the Mosquitto broker add-on (that seems to be working ok) as well as the Zigbee2MQTT one that also opens... However, When I want to pair a first device, I cannot see any of them appearing..
This is the log of Mosquitto broker : https://dpaste.org/XyFti
This is the log of Zigbe2MQTT : https://dpaste.org/bz3WN
Thanks in advanc"e for your guidance!

[ashen bluff]

What did you pair and how? Did you try to pair closer to the coordinator?

[vivid jay]

Yeah that drove me kind of nuts haha.. even LLM's didn't know what was going on lol. I saw myself going down the rabbit hole of docker mounting points, etc and thought this CANNOT be so convoluted 😅
Thanks a lot and thank you @solar sluice ❤️

[brave jungle]

I tried with 3 different devices... And I Was about 1,5m away only.. 😦
There as one motion sensor, one door sensor, and one smoke detector

[ashen bluff]

Maybe you have massive amounts of interference? #zigbee-archived message

[brave jungle]

I used a different channel... this channel 25 shall be more or less free..
Is it normal that in the Mosquitto log, I have so many connection/disconnection?

[ashen bluff]

Those are probably healthchecks.

[shrewd crypt]

Can anyone help troubleshoot this custom quirk for Tuya TS1201 IR remote? https://github.com/ferehcarb/zha-device-handlers/blob/dev/zhaquirks/tuya/ts1201.py

I can see that the quirk is properly applied - Quirk: ts1201.ZosungIRBlaster in the device page. When I go to Manage Zigbee Cluster, and issue the IRLearn command, the light on the device turns on, but there is seemingly no response to multiple different IR remotes that I have around. I cannot see anything that looks like the alpha-numeric IR codes in the log, and the Attribute last_learned_ir_code shows nothing as well.

for ref I have this logging config:

  default: warning
  logs:
    homeassistant.components.zha: warning
    zigpy: debug
    custom_components.zha_toolkit: debug
    custom_zha_quirks: debug
    zhaquirks: debug```

[buoyant olive]

Hello! Anyone else experience the same behavior that a zigbee group with identical lights turn on on different brightness instead of the last one set? I'm on EMQX + Zigbee2mqtt latest, IKEA GU10 lights

Zigbee2mqtt shows brightness as 100% for each individual light, and same for home assistant for the group, but i can clearly see that att least half of the bulbs are like 20%

[mellow geode]

Does it make a difference when you use the code from before my commit? https://github.com/ferehcarb/zha-device-handlers/blob/9568595a157f2cd73a457bdbf1ee561ac4597fab/zhaquirks/tuya/ts1201.py

[shrewd crypt]

Let me try

[mellow geode]

I don't actually have the device, but just tried to clean up the PR a bit. I didn't get to finish it though (some of the "magic numbers" were a bit ambiguous too. Not sure if my "refactoring" commit broke something)
(PR for reference: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/2336)

[shrewd crypt]

It seems like this works!

yeah, it is

I can control my AC On and Off using two different codes I was able to teach

once again @mellow geode you are my hero. Thank you Broseph.

[mellow geode]

uh, so my changes broke something, heh

[shrewd crypt]

take what I am saying with a grain of salt, because I am pretty dumb, but it does seem that way.

[shrewd crypt]

@mellow geode do you happen to have any idea why a subsequently added remote wouldn't get the quirk? Manufacturer and model appear to be the same...

nevermind, I just removed and re-added and voila. sorry

[royal star]

Has anybody calibrated a xiaomi temp/humidity sensor before? https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/WSDCGQ01LM.html

[last wyvern]

I'm developing a ZHA device quirk and I'm hoping someone could help me understand what criteria the integration uses to determine if a sensor's attribute is currently available vs unavailable?

The quirk is for a Tuya smart meter device, this proved to be interesting as I need to combine data from multiple data points (the device presents power as a uint value and a separate power direction data point of 0/1, the standard electrical measurement cluster attribute expects signed integers).

I've got this working the majority of the time, however occasionally upon restarting ZHA the power sensor will show as unavailable in Home Assistant.
This is despite me being able to read the cluster attribute value and see it being updated every few seconds (which I'd have thought should mean the sensor should reflect the updates as it does at other times).

[rapid dawn]

@solar ridge I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[opaque helm]

Anyone got experience with Tuya plug sockets and how reliable are they?

[molten linden]

Are you on the beta? If so it may be related to what this PR is fixing https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/106738

[mellow geode]

Is the source for your custom quirk available somewhere? (or can you upload it to something like https://dpaste.org ?)

[solar ridge]

For Skyconnect, how do i make it so it gets inside my Hardware? I have the Driver for UART universal windows, but how do i get teh skyconnect in the hardware?

[fossil sky]

I keep getting MAC_TRANSACTION_EXPIRED errors when turning Sengled Zigbee lights on and off. Has anyone else ever experienced this? Some Sengled lights work completely fine even farther from my Conbee II.

[shrewd crypt]

where do you find the Cluster ID to be used in zha.issue_zigbee_cluster_command service call?

[mellow geode]

You can use the clusters UI to find what you want to use

It's on the Zigbee device page -> three dots -> Manage Zigbee device -> clusters tab

You can also execute the commands from there

[shrewd crypt]

thanks. issuing commands from there has been working for the IR codes I've been recording. but now I'm trying to make a script. teh Service calls for what seems to be a numerical Cluster ID

What I see in the clusters UI looks like 0xe004

do I need to translate that number from hexadecimal?

or something

the answer to that question is Yes

[mellow geode]

Yeah, but you should also be able to just enter the hex representation in the service call though

[shrewd crypt]

oh, maybe in the yaml editor. I was using the visual editor which required decimal

[finite osprey]

I have at least 60 errors related to energy/power monitoring outlets similar to this: 2023-12-30 19:10:36.028 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.sensor] Platform zha does not generate unique IDs. ID [redacted]:1b-1-2820-ac_frequency already exists - ignoring sensor.kitchen_cabinet_outlet_frequency. Any ideas on what might be causing this?

I checked the entity names and those are unique. Not sure where to look for IDs though.

[mellow geode]

I think it'll just show the field as "red/invalid", but still work

[fossil sky]

So I'm gonna take that as a "no"

[shrewd crypt]

Any chance you can you explain the purpose of the switch entity that are under the tuya IR remote device?

[deep light]

I'm having some issues with a Philips Hue Button - the damn thing almost NEVER responds the first time I click it - I always need to hit it a few times for it to respond, but after that first response, it responds instantaneously. Sometimes, when I'm trying to get it to start responding, it'll be unresponsive for a while and then suddenly send 3 to 5 responses at once.

It also won't connect to the router that's right above it and it's connecting to a switch in the corridor which is at least 2x away.

It feels like it goes to sleep, almost? How do I handle this? I'm using Z2M Edge.

[mellow geode]

The quirk doesn't modify it, so it's entirely up to the device. Could be nothing

[full anchor]

Is it possible to connect an IKEA bulb to a ZigBee without any sort of remote or switch or something?

[austere patio]

Yes, bulbs can join your Zigbee network once you have one formed

[full anchor]

Will it work with sky connect?

[austere patio]

Definitely

[full anchor]

Do the nanoleaf bulbs work too? I've heard bad things?

[austere patio]

Nanoleaf bulbs use Matter over Thread. To use them with a SkyConnect:

1. Nanoleaf has to fix their constant firmware crashing issues.
2. You have to install multi-protocol firmware to the SkyConnect. It's going to be a lot more stable in a few weeks but is still experimental/beta.

If you want to try something fun and unreliable, give it a shot. If you want something that works, stick to Zigbee.

[full anchor]

Can I use matter without ZigBee? I thought the sky connect had a matter module as well

[austere patio]

SkyConnect can be flashed with Thread firmware to be used as a Thread-only stick. Matter is a protocol that can use either Thread or WiFi.

[full anchor]

So do you even need a ZigBee for matter? Specifically the nanoleaf matter bulbs? Or is it just over WiFi?

[austere patio]

Nanoleaf is over Thread, which is like Zigbee but not compatible with it

[full anchor]

Ahh why is this so difficult :/ I just want a smart RGB bulb brand that works out of the box :/

[austere patio]

Then you definitely want to forget about Matter for a while 😄

[full anchor]

I thought I needed a ZigBee stick to do anything

[austere patio]

Just buy a Zigbee bulb and it'll work with the SkyConnect out of the box

If you want to play around with Matter over Thread, then you'll have to do some leg work

[full anchor]

Are there any bulbs that you don't even need a sky connect or anything like that

It's just adding to this steep cost to get started

[austere patio]

You can use WiFi bulbs but there are no sensible battery-powered WiFi sensors. You'll need to use a Zigbee stick in the future if you ever want to use things other than bulbs.

May as well get one, it costs as much as a bulb or two.

[full anchor]

So with ZigBee would you say IKEA is the best?

[half cradle]

Hue is the best, IKEA probably best for the price. (cheaper)

[full anchor]

What even is the difference between them?

They both do the same thing

[half cradle]

Quality of light bulbs?

Brightness, color, materials. Styles.

[austere patio]

Hue bulb minimum brightness is very dim, you can barely see the bulb. IKEA's minimum brightness is like 20% on the Hue.

Their RGB bulbs are also brighter than IKEA's

[main ruin]

They are significantly brighter on white aswell if I recall

Or at least offer such option

[tropic depot]

if you want quality bulbs but don't want to pay full hue prices innr are decent

[cloud swallow]

i can't complain about my hue GU10s, but i don't have anything with which to compare them yet

(and i'm currently still using BT until i get everything else sorted)

[main ruin]

realistically if it isnt an E27 socket there is fairly little difference to experience. they arent that bright by default due to their size

on the larger ones the difference between 800, 1100 and 1600lm are quite noticable

[full anchor]

Any cheaper zigbees than skyconnect

I don't care if it's zha or mqtt I just need one that works with matter thread as well

[stable monolith]

All 4 of my LocalTuya devices became unavailable 2 hours ago. They are still online with tuya.com. The local keys and IP addresses have not changed (these are wifi, not Zigbee). Nothing "localtuya" in the log. Reload LocalTuya integration didn't help. Reboot computer HA runs on did get it working again. Any ideas to prevent the problem, whatever it was, from recurring?

[astral seal]

#integrations-archived

[stable monolith]

LOL I thought I was there. Oops.

[astral seal]

Why are you trying to start your setup by running potentially unstable, experimental stuff? The Skyconnect and, I'm pretty sure, other devices using the same EFR32MG21 chipset can run multiprotocol (Zigbee+Thread) firmware, but it's still experimental and "disable multiprotocol" is a pretty common troubleshooting step when people using the device that way have issues with their Zigbee network.

[molten linden]

Also you don’t need a dedicated stick for thread and matter as it’s all ip based if you have any apple or google devices that have thread you can get started with those… at it’s more stable that way too right now.

[loud oyster]

I have paired 3 blinds through zigbee to my HA, and created a ZHA group for the 3 blinds. However, the group of blinds do not show up as an entity and so cannot be controlled. Am I unable to create a zigbee group of covers? I have successfully used zigbee light groups for months.

Additionally, my Ikea blinds never update their 'current position' state (always 0) and therefore are always just closing or opening in state

[shadow orchid]

Recommendations for affordable zigbee/zwave bulbs? $25 a pop is a bit much for the innr brand ones

(Although they’ve been working nicely for about a year now)

[fossil sky]

Sengled works well in my experience

[shadow orchid]

They have zigbee ones?

[limpid cloud]

I like the Ikea ones, work really well. RGB colours are not that intensive and saturated compared to Philips, but what do you expect at a third of the price.

[shadow orchid]

not available at the store "near" me (2 hrs away) and not available for delivery

[full anchor]

Oh what? This'd've beeen great to know. I have 2nd gen google home minis and a couple of the audio variants. Do they work, and if so how?

[solar sluice]

According to source code the entities atm can be created for light, switch and fan zigbee groups (correct me if I'm wrong). But a bit on the other matter: commands for Zigbee groups are broadcasted and according to https://community.silabs.com/s/article/guidelines-for-large-dense-networks-with-emberznet-pro?language=en_US

In a network of any appreciable size, broadcasts should be avoided or minimized wherever possible

Just an FYI)

[solar sluice]

@loud oyster Somehow I've missed the 'reply', when I was writing the message. Anyhow it was intended for you

[loud oyster]

Thanks. Was the last part for me as well?

[solar sluice]

Yes, just wanted to share that piece of info about broadcasting and the possible cost of it. Not to say that one may not use it at all, but one shall keep in mind that it also has a price

[ember night]

@main ruin Ikea and Gledopto are budget options that both work fine in my home with ZHA

[main ruin]

Why ping me for this, I know

^^

[ember night]

Sorry, I must have accidentally touched the wrong spot on my phone, this wasn't intentional.

[main ruin]

all good, just got confused

[ember night]

I'm confused as wel, I don't quite see how you got involved in this...

[molten linden]

Check the pins in the thread and matter channels this is off topic in here now.

[forest arrow]

Greetings folks

I have a sonoff zigbee controller and I ahve a bunch of aqara door and window sensors attached to it and have not messed with them for months but when I go to look at them now in Home Assistant they are all showing unavailable. Any idea what I can check to get them visible again.

[forest arrow]

It looks like all my outlets that are sonoff zigbee are connected and working. It just seems like all the aqara sensors are not connected.

[sudden lintel]

Yesterday I set up some Aquara T1 led strips using Z2M all was good.

Today the ability to change colour has gone 🤷‍♂️ I can adjust brightness, temp etc but not the colour

There’s a section of settings missing that was there yesterday

Anyone seen this?

[river hatch]

Im a firmware engineer and work with thread a lot, but not zigbee.

Can most zigbee devices be routers? I'm looking at the IKEA smart lights, are they going to be routers so that I can jump from the garage up the stairs?

[austere patio]

Very few mains-powered Zigbee devices won't route. Sengled is the major brand that sells bulbs that are just end devices.

[river hatch]

I'm also looking at flashing the custom zigbee firmware on mijia thermometers. Being battery I'd assume they're sleepy end devices? Just wondering if anyone has experience with it

[river hatch]

Thanks ❤️

[astral seal]

Battery devices are always end devices.

[solar sluice]

You mean like LYWSD03MMC? Flashed mine from BT to Zigbee more than 2.5 months ago. So far so good. And yes, end device, naturally

[tepid gorge]

I have a Sonoff Zigbee button that I use to turn off a couple of zwave and zigbee wall plugs. I use a blueprint to create an automation and I use the generic homeassistant.turn_off command in the automation. It has been working until a couple of weeks back when all of a sudden the zigbee plugs won’t turn off. The automation fires and all of the zwave plugs are turned off but not the zigbee ones. I can’t see anything in the zigbee2mqtt log when I hit the button (except the actual click). Have I missed some change regarding the generic homeassistant turn_off command or is there something else being wrong?

[astral seal]

What happens when you try to turn one of those plugs off individually?

[river hatch]

Yeah that's the one. Good to hear that someone has had a good experience with it

[tepid gorge]

That works just fine and I’ve also fired the homeassistant.turn_off from the developer tools section towards various entities and it works fine as well.

[high lion]

I remember reading that most light bulbs will not act as a zigbee router

https://blog.ceard.tech/2019/11/zigbee-and-home-assistant#:~:text=other than lightbulbs

[river hatch]

Many device that are permanently powered (not battery powered) will help build the mesh (known as routers), though not all will do this (light bulbs particularly are unlikely to be a router). If you don’t have enough routers, or you locate these poorly, your mesh will be unreliable.

[dapper sand]

OMFG, I tested the HALO RL56 Zigbee downlights and they're great. Act as a router too. So I went to order a bunch more and they're DC'd. Just as I found them. Looks like their replacement is some kind of "wiz pro" thing, which doesn't look like it's zigbee.

So, I'm ordering a pack of Commercial Electric T62 zigbee downlights. Hopefully they're as good and "just work". Bonus is they're quite a bit less money too.

[glad plume]

Hello Friends! I want to extend my Zigbee network to the Front Garden. My Coordinator in the upper window, and I want to put a Zigbee router/repeater to my Electric Box in the wall outside, that is about 3-4 meter away so not a big deal. I want the biggest coverage what I can get and solid connection to the coordinator. Can you suggest a good repeater/router? I was using Aqua Smart Plug EU. Thank you!

[main ruin]

There is likely more difference in range based on the channel you pick as opposed to which device you use for routing

I would look for an outdoor rated smart plug, or go with a normal one when its location isn't that weather exposed

[spiral verge]

Anyone here had any issues with gledopto zigbee devices? I've got 4 LED strips, all 4 were working perfectly until I had a power cut a few months ago. Now two of them refuse to work - they pair, but instantly drop off the network and seem to cycle through pairing, then dropping off. The log's aren't really all that helpful from what I can see. The other two LED strips (all 4 are the same model) are working perfectly fine, without even having to re-pair them.
I'm using a rpi 4b with a sonoff zigby dongle on a 2m extension. Using the ZHA integration for zigbee devices

[austere patio]

Try upgrading your stick's firmware: https://darkxst.github.io/sl-test/

[spiral verge]

Ok 2 secs

Any way to do it without chrome?

[austere patio]

Not via the web flasher, no

[spiral verge]

The serial port is there in device manager but edge doesn't see it

[austere patio]

Only Chrome-based browsers (including Edge) support WebSerial

Which Sonoff dongle do you have? If you're using ZHA, look at the "radio type" in the ZHA configuration page

The web flasher is only applicable to the v2, EZSP-based stick (not the original Z-Stack/ZNP one)

[spiral verge]

/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0

Ah right mines a v1 not v2

[austere patio]

In that case, the firmware upgrade won't do anything 😄

[spiral verge]

I didn't expect it to really, these led strips were working fine before the power cut. I'm wondering if they're actually dead at this point

[last wyvern]

Sorry for the delay, new year's eve and all 🙂
I've got it reporting reliably now linked here:
https://github.com/jeverley/zha-device-handlers/blob/dev/zhaquirks%2Ftuya%2Fts0601_smart_meter.py

Another query I have is around writing to data points with Tuya devices.

I'm trying to write to the writable configuration attributes of the device which I've mapped into my manufacturer cluster.

When I write a new value it doesn't have any effect on the device's behaviour, however I can see the new value when I read it (and the defaults for the untouched config attributes are also showing correctly).

[cerulean flicker]

Hi.
Is it possible to migrate from ZHA to zigbee2mqtt?

[ripe berry]

Hey, not sure if this is an appropriate channel to put this - having issues with an aqara cube not reporting actual sides. I've followed at least half the guides on forums, but pretty lost on if my issue is device <> controller, or controller <> HA, or HA <> blueprints.

I put some examples and the signature in a reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/18u86ke/aqara_t1_cube_faces/

[hasty bay]

I just received my HA sky connect. The point is to add Aqara zigbee devices to HA. Do I still need my Aqara hubs at this point or should I just delete my Aqara sensors from those hubs and connect to HA directly

[ripe berry]

Conveniently I've been messing with Zigbee + Aqara stuff recently. Most of them connect to ZHA just fine

[astral seal]

Yeah now you can pair directly to HA.

[ripe berry]

Even the cube does, and works reliably (for the parts that work)

[astral seal]

Unfortunately there's no easy way to just migrate. You'll have to reset and re-pair all your devices after you get z2m up, and then fix all your automations and stuff.

[cerulean flicker]

frick.. 50 devices :/ well.. i could run both right?
I have a HA-Yellow with integrated zigbee coordinator, and a LAN zigbee coordinator.. so i can do it one by one without screwing everything at once

[astral seal]

Yeah that's probably the best way to go

[cerulean flicker]

well.. then i have some work to do hehe

thank you @astral seal

[pulsar roost]

Quick Q. If I buy IKEA ZigBee devices in the US, will they work ok in Europe / UK?

[carmine hamlet]

Zigbee frequencies are the same world-wide

[rigid wagon]

Are led controllers on ZHA also kinda broken? On zigbee2mqtt they are quite buggy.

calling the light_on service turns on the light at the color it was set last time, then proceeds changing it(if i put in a color). it does not start with a different color that i selected.

the transitioning works, even if i tell it not to have a transition.

and sometimes the time it turns off is quite long.

[young onyx]

So I updated to Z2M 1.35.0 and now seeing these errors:

2024-01-02 16:43:55.790 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'dict object' has no attribute 'power_on_behavior' when rendering '{{ value_json.power_on_behavior }}'
2024-01-02 16:43:55.790 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.mqtt.select] Invalid option for select.great_room_dimmer_power_on_behavior: '' (valid options: ['off', 'on', 'toggle', 'previous'])

Anyone seeing something similar?

Looks like its trying to do the unsupported thing in Z2M

2024-01-02.12-27-32/log.txt:error 2024-01-02 16:44:37: Publish 'get' 'power_on_behavior' to 'Family Room Dimmer' failed: 'Error: Read 0xa49e69fffe62fd02/1 genOnOff(["startUpOnOff"], {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Status 'UNSUPPORTED_ATTRIBUTE')'
2024-01-02.12-27-32/log.txt:error 2024-01-02 16:45:10: Publish 'set' 'power_on_behavior' to 'Family Room Dimmer' failed: 'Error: Write 0xa49e69fffe62fd02/1 genOnOff({"startUpOnOff":255}, {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Status 'UNSUPPORTED_ATTRIBUTE')'

[queen ledge]

Hey All,

i recently purchased some of these Zigbee Smart Plug https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0CC88MZJ8?th=1 and i'm trying to add them into Zigbee2Mqtt. They will go into pairing mode but won't be detected by Z2M.

Do they need to be flashed first or added to the smartlife app?

[main ruin]

that may be an not unheard of moment for tuya branded gear

generally i would recommend checking https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ for a list of tested gear

[spiral verge]

[0xF31F:11:0x0300] Decoded ZCL frame: Color:Configure_Reporting_rsp(status_records=[ConfigureReportingResponseRecord(status=<Status.INSUFFICIENT_SPACE: 137>, direction=<ReportingDirection.SendReports: 0>, attrid=1), ConfigureReportingResponseRecord(status=<Status.INSUFFICIENT_SPACE: 137>, direction=<ReportingDirection.SendReports: 0>, attrid=7)])
Does this mean anything to anyone?

[gentle sandal]

I updated z2m last night. I have about 30 devices - they all say 'online' and have good signal, but my battery devices stopped working. Having trouble pasting a screenshot, but the z2m log for this device just says "error device cannot be configured". Any ideas?

It’s an Aquara button if that matters. Here is the error: Debug 2024-01-02 18:31:59Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/request/device/configure' with data '{"id":"Garage door button","transaction":"b4h6g-6"}'
Info 2024-01-02 18:31:59MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/response/device/configure', payload '{"data":{"id":"Garage door button"},"error":"Device 'Garage door button' cannot be configured","status":"error","transaction":"b4h6g-6"}'

[main ruin]

the important part must be INSUFFICIENT_SPACE: 137

you may need to allocate more memory to the system (or the gateway is running out of it?)

[river hatch]

I have heard conflicting reports, should i be using zigbee2mqtt or just the zigbee integration? Why and why not?

[scarlet silo]

So currently having the problem that my zigbee lights are incredibly slow in response and even stop working if I due multiple changes at once (brightness, colour, on/off)
I am using the ZHA Integration as well as an conbee II Stick with an extension cable on an Beelink N100.
I was woundering what I can do to fix this. I currently have 52 devices connected to the zigbee module. I grouped spot lights in a zigbee group to control them.
Following logs are throwing an error:
Failed to send request: Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.NWK_ROUTE_DISCOVERY_Failed/ 208

[main ruin]

They are different

The "ZigBee integration" is zha while z2m can and should work standalone from homeassistant

They have their differences

[tropic depot]

This is saying that the conbee can’t find the route to the device in question…. Think of it like not having the turn by turn directions to your destination. What do you have for mains powered devices on the network? What are the manufacturers of said devices? Are any of them physically powered off?

[austere patio]

This is the device sending the status code (and out of space), not the gateway

[austere patio]

What device is this?

[elder surge]

to those using Aqara sensors with HA... is there any way to update the firmware on the sensors? is there even updates to them?

[rapid dawn]

@turbid parrot I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[turbid parrot]

should've put the logs in a file huh

[austere patio]

@turbid parrot Can you enable https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#debug-logging and post a log?

[turbid parrot]

can do give me a sec

[turbid parrot]

https://pastebin.com/qAEk9FEy

[mellow geode]

This is a limitation of ZCL. However, if it's Zigbee 3.0 ("zcl version" attribute being 2 or higher), you can set the options attribute on the Color cluster from 0 to 1.

ZHA will detect that change and should be able to do the transition properly (assuming the light supports it properly)

You can use the three dots on the device page, "Manage Zigbee Device" -> clusters to write the attribute.

[mellow geode]

You can't upgrade the older Aqara (global) sensors. They don't even have an OTA cluster IIRC. The newer ones can be upgraded by grabbing the firmware files from zigbee-ota and putting them in a defined zha_ota directory (configured in configuration.yaml).

There's also a wiki page on the zigpy repo with some more information regarding triggering OTA updates

[river hatch]

Hey, has anyone used the LYWSD03MMC (mijia thermometer) zigbee firmware? I used https://pvvx.github.io/ATC_MiThermometer/TelinkMiFlasher.html and selected the zigbee option. I thought it would still advertise for configuration but its not. Have I done something wrong? How do you configure it now?

[austere patio]

What version of HA are you running? It looks like the baud for your radio isn't correct, select the deCONZ radio type in manual config and then use 38400 baud

[turbid parrot]

i was on the latest stable release but have since updated to the latest beta, changing the baud rate worked. So thanks a lot for that!

[barren snow]

did anyone maybe see something like this but for zigbee? I'm specifically looking for the "fake switch" look https://www.amazon.com/Network-Control-Controller-ZEN34-Required/dp/B08TMWLY74/ #wife-approval-factor

[barren snow]

think 3x before you do it: I found it pretty buggy, using more battery, and sending updates way less regularly than on BT

[solar sluice]

I was following this guide: https://smarthomescene.com/guides/convert-xiaomi-lywsd03mmc-from-bluetooth-to-zigbee/

It was a 2 stage process at the time, but apparently there's a way to skip the custom Bluetooth firmware step now.
Anyhow the original did work for me without any issues

[solar sluice]

Cannot say for sure about the battery (I'm still observing and right now I'd say it looks ok, no crazy drains noticed), but as for the updates: definitely it reports more often than BT version did in my case

@barren snow @river hatch just for the info: I've initially flashed mine with 1.0.4 (or 5, don't remember exactly) and afterwards OTA'ed it to 1.0.6

[cerulean flicker]

When joining new devices into zigbee2mqtt, is there a easy way to set area for that specific device as in ZHA?
I now manually go into devices and find the device, and add a area manually.

Not a big problem though, just wondering

[barren snow]

AFAIK z2m doesn't use areas and can only pass name/id and icon to HA

[cerulean flicker]

ok thank you @barren snow 🙂 49 devices left! hehe

[barren snow]

I feel the pain..... then I need to put them into areas in homekit 🫠

something something standards something something interoperability 🙈

[cerulean flicker]

yeah but switching to zigbee2mqtt solved allot of pain with my develco devices 🙂 so a bit hard work but a good result in the end

[barren snow]

I was resisting Z2M for looong time, I finally tried a year ago and I'm not coming back to be honest

[cerulean flicker]

I do like it allot 🙂 i added a new LAN Zigbee Coordinator as well, so im hoping for maximum speed! 🙂

[barren snow]

I eliminated another link by just having a USB stick in the server. So far the network is rock-solid

[cerulean flicker]

nice

[barren snow]

I have like.... 40 devices in the house, approximatelly half on zigbee and slowly trying to get off the wifi ones as I'm done dealing with the network stack as much as possible 😄

[cerulean flicker]

ah ok. i have about 60 now, adding 10 more soon

running a HMG-01 Plus CC2652P7

[barren snow]

that's a nice controller, I heard a lot of good about it

I need to replace my old conbee with something better

[cerulean flicker]

yeah, i love the fact that it uses a ethernet cable, so i can place it wherever i want 🙂

[barren snow]

with that many devices you probably have a pretty healthy mesh anyway 😄

[cerulean flicker]

yes 😉

[elder surge]

I have new ones purchased 1 months ago

[river hatch]

I am running on a rpi 3B where the bluetooth just dies with no recovery other than hard reboot. So not much of a choice. You are right it updates only every 5 min which is why I am asking if there's configuration because it doesn't show on ble anymore

[barren snow]

RPi bluetooth driver is .... nicely speaking a disaster. The USB wrecking havoc on 2.4Ghz isn't helping either, but that breaks Zigbee too

I gave up and just grabbed a USB one now

[river hatch]

I used this https://pvvx.github.io/ATC_MiThermometer/TelinkMiFlasher.html and it had 3 bins built in. I selected the 2nd one that was named with zigbee. But I can't see it on ble at all anymore so Idk if I have done something wrong. I don't understand how to configure it now

[river hatch]

I gave up on ble

[barren snow]

you saw the docs on https://github.com/atc1441/ATC_MiThermometer ?

to pair it you need to short RESET and GNS for IIRC 3 or 5 seconds and then it will pair to Z2M

[river hatch]

Oh yeah, its all setup and working on zigbee. Just I was looking for the configuration to see if I could speed it up

or the other ui changes

[scarlet silo]

Hello. I don’t know what to do anymore. I accidentally changed the channels as well as migrated radio again for zha on conbee 2. Now I can not reach anything. I can’t find the error.. What can I do?

[barren snow]

I recall this was able to edit parameters https://atc1441.github.io/TelinkFlasher.html but it was long time I played with these. But reporting more often will eat your battery pretty quickly.

[scarlet silo]

Could it be that I deleted every device connection?

[river hatch]

The web flasher has the configuration, but I don't see it on ble at all so I can't connect and configure

[barren snow]

but can't you just set atteributes via zigbee?

[river hatch]

probably, but how? My zigbee lights ahve a "configuration" section in zha to setup things like power on level. The thermometers don't have that

[barren snow]

Z2M has a full-blown reporting tab where you can configure such parameters, ZHA may be [as per usual] limited in some options. But reporting configuration is a part of zigbee spec. Looking at the code zigbee cusotm firmware uses that.

[rigid wagon]

What is zcl? I am using zigbee2mqtt, is it also possible in there?

[barren snow]

ZHA* [it's late ;D] I was thinkinging you replied to me.... I neeed to sleep ;D

You have a tab where you can define attributes and how often you want them reported. Device is of course free to ignore you, but the Mi zigbee ones seems to honor these

[scarlet silo]

I changed something in my zigbee conbee2. Now no more device listens to me. I tried to readd a device which works. But is there a way to make it work with all other devices but to reconnect everything again?

[barren snow]

if you changed the coordinator authentication context... well, you just cut yourself off

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/faq/#what-does-and-does-not-require-repairing-of-all-devices this is even described in their FAQ; it's how zigbee security is designed to work

[cerulean flicker]

With using Zigbee2mqtt, is it possible to force a heal ? i se some devices has chosen routers that are fare away instead of some close... or wil this automatically be done after a while?

[river hatch]

So I should look at setting it up with z2m then? I'm running haos on an rpi3b. Is there full add on support for z2m and the broker in haos

[scarlet silo]

@barren snow thank you. Then I Have to readd everything.
I currently have 52 devices. I think that is the reason why it was so slow in the first. Is there a way to optimize this?

Maybe an other zigbee Conbee?

[stiff vault]

hey Guys, I recently switched from deconz to ZHA to try it, I have 2 hue bulbs that dont work with ZHA, they keep rejoining the mesh, everytime I click add device they are reconfigured and turn on, when I try to control one of them after the joining process I get
Failed to send request: Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.APS_NO_ACK: 167>
which means like unreachable I guess?
they worked with deconz before and are directly next to bulbs that work perfectly so I guess its not a Signal Issue.
I use a conbee 3 Stick
the bulbs are one LTG002 and one LWG004

[river hatch]

I don't see a mqtt channel? I am trying to setup zigbee2mqtt so I will ask here.

I followed https://github.com/home-assistant/addons/blob/master/mosquitto/DOCS.md#how-to-use and the integration doesn't auto discover. I am confused what the user you create is for too? I didn't see it mentioned

[river hatch]

I rebooted and it auto discovered

[cerulean flicker]

anyone know how long it takes for the devices to come back after i removed the coordinator_backup.json?

all my devices are in the raw config, it just does not load in to the dashboard

[rapid dawn]

@river hatch I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

@river hatch I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[river hatch]

why is zigbee2mqtt unhappy with me

[sonic mist]

does the skyconnect adapter support any other RF bands aside from 2.4ghz?
does it do 900mhz or 868mhz?

[river hatch]

I have disabled zha but still get the error, maybe I need a reboot?

I alos changed the poort to port: /dev/ttyACM0

[steady iron]

Hey!
I’m having trouble pairing my Aqara Roller Shade Driver E1 with Z2M. It recognizes the device, but the interview is 5-7 min and then fails. I’ve tried everything from the support page and still doesn’t work. I’m using a ConBee 3 stick and everything is up to date. Does anyone know something new I can try to connect it?

[dawn violet]

Uhh does anyone know anything about futurehome?

[austere bridge]

no

[austere bridge]

Z2M is expecting a zstack dongle by default I think, you'll need to add the adapter type:

serial:
  port: /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20231122145443-if00
  adapter: ezsp

[river hatch]

wow, that worked thanks

where is this documented

feel like this needs to be on the front page

[austere bridge]

here:
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/adapters/#experimental (click on Sonoff ZBDongle-E)

[river hatch]

right, I was following the ha addon instructions since thats what I am setting up

https://github.com/zigbee2mqtt/hassio-zigbee2mqtt/blob/master/README.md

[austere bridge]

I think it's a fair point that it should be added to README.md as more and more people are using EFR32-based dongles

[river hatch]

I had my network setup with zha, do I need to resetup my network with z2m or will the network just come through?

[steady iron]

@austere bridge do you know anything about Z2M not being able to finish the interview with some devices? - I’ve written in many forums but nobody seems to know the answer:((

[austere bridge]

For EndDevices you'll need to keep them active (e.g. keep pressing buttons for remotes) during interview

[steady iron]

I’ve tried multiple times where I press the button every 2 seconds for 5-7 min where it just fails the interview. Nothing in the log can help me:/

[placid raft]

Noob question; Is it possible to use both ZHA & Zigbee2MQTT? I have 99% of my devices paired in ZHA but I received a sensor which currently only works with Z2m
I would then use only Z2M only for that device

[spiral verge]

It’s a gledopto GL-MC-001P led controller

[main ruin]

i suppose nothing would stop you from doing that as long as you have a dedicated gateway for each

[austere bridge]

maybe ZHA adds support for your sensor in today's 2024.1 release

[placid raft]

How to check? I found this: https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/19137

The device itself is a Tuya Zigbee Temp sensor with Display, 5 bucks from aliexpress

ZTH05 is the model name from Tuya brand
This is how it looks like in ZHA: https://www.imgpaste.net/image/SKK2KN

[robust skiff]

Hi all, I'm running HA on my Synology NAS and have connected a Skyconnect dongle for Zigbee through ZHA. This worked well until I updated form 2023.11 to 2023.12 (known issue), so I downgraded to 2023.11.3 again. After some fighting with Synology to install the driver for USB (another known issue..) I am finally back to the point that everything should work again. However, I now get a 'Failed to setup' error.
The relevant line in the error log: voluptuous.error.MultipleInvalid: value must be one of ['hardware', 'software'] for dictionary value @ data['device']['flow_control']

I selected 'hardware', so I'm not sure how to solve this. Does anyone have an idea?

[molten linden]

check the zha_device_handlers repo, specifically search the issues for the device's random string manufacturer / model number https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers

if not directly supported there may be a custom quirk worth trying mentioned there as well

[placid raft]

Ah yeah I found an open issue: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/2694

Thanks a lot man

[austere bridge]

Z2M implemented this just two days ago, this will probably work in ZHA next release

[placid raft]

Thanks a lot for your help

[austere bridge]

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ this is also a good resource albeit slower to update than issues on github

[river hatch]

I've been in this thread lately about the mijia thermometers on the custom zigbee firmware.

My batteries have drained over 10% in a day... I'll be going back to ble

https://github.com/pvvx/ZigbeeTLc/issues/37

[austere bridge]

interesting, I've flashed the Zigbee firmware 3 weeks ago on two 03MMC's and they've gone up in battery life since

I'm very pleased with it so far

[placid raft]

I bricked my 03MMC (i dont know how' so that's why I bought this crap

[austere bridge]

I was able to ditch the ESP bluetooth proxy

[river hatch]

Issue thread from developer says that zigbee is more power hungry and they don't recommend CR2032 FOR ZIGBEE

well I went zigbee for the routers too. But apparently it's so hungry

[austere bridge]

iirc these are able to be recovered using an external flasher

I've dumped a firmware before

[river hatch]

Likely a physical ttl if it's "bricked"

[austere bridge]

yes I've followed this guide here https://github.com/atc1441/ATC_MiThermometer#usb-to-uart

send them to me before you bin them Jordan 😄

[placid raft]

Where do you live? It's catching dust here

[austere bridge]

Germany

(probably not worth it to send them either way :D)

[placid raft]

Ha well Belgium is not too far

It fits in an enveloppe

Man send me your address details in a PM, I'll snatch some stamps from work, no biggie

It's a business expense so no stress

[austere bridge]

haha sure thing 😄

[stiff vault]

I've moved back to deconz, does anyone know how I can get hue bulbs to mesh?
https://imgur.com/a/aLF1n2x
2 work, the one in the middle doesn't 🥲

[ember raven]

Hi everyone. I have a problem with an Aqara TRV that's misbehaving. Basically it seems to not respond to commands from Z2M. If I change the temperature setpoint on the device itself, it updates in the "Exposes" part in Z2M, but when I do the reverse, this is the error I get:

2024-01-03 18:27:18Publish 'set' 'occupied_heating_setpoint' to 'Big Study Radiator' failed: 'Error: Write 0x54ef4410006feca2/1 hvacThermostat({"occupiedHeatingSetpoint":1500}, {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (199))'

How do I troubleshoot this?

[sterile basalt]

Hey, I'm having super weird issue with deCONZ after adding another philips hue dimmer switch (RWL022) all other philips hue dimmer switches suddenly stopped working(and button presses do not show in HA logbook), so then deleting and re-adding/reseting the suddenly not working switches makes other hue switches not work, seems like i can only have 1 working at the given time, did anyone ever encountered that issue? seems super bizarre

[sterile basalt]

switch in question: https://www.philips-hue.com/en-us/p/hue-dimmer-switch--latest-model-/046677562779

[dawn violet]

Anyone know how to add a integration to aqara thermometer

Ive searched but haven't found anything

[ember raven]

What do you mean add an integration? You mean how to use it or?

[dawn violet]

Yes please. How do I get it into home assistant

Right now it's hooked up on an app called future home.

[astral seal]

That sounds like it might not be a Zigbee device. What's the model number?

[ember raven]

Do you already have a zigbee system running in home assistant? And is it Z2M or ZHA?

[final aurora]

Hey guys I just got a new Sky Connect device. Set it up and added a few Zigbee devices also added thread matter add-on even though I don't have anything. Also, I think it was called the Open Thread Router. I updated to the newest HA version and my Zigbee network crashed.

https://skyconnect.home-assistant.io/procedures/disable-multiprotocol/#step-flash-the-silicon-labs-radio-firmware

It gave me this link as to why it's not working but when I go to settings system hardware and try to configure Skyconnect but it's not giving me the options the article is saying.

When I hit configure on the Sky Connect it just says Multiprotocol support is already enabled for this device. It doesn't give me an option to change the channel like the article said.

I went to a backup right before I updated but it's still not working I tried uninstalling the Router thinking that was the problem but that didn't do anything.

I actually have the newer Amazon devices that have the thread router but it seems I can't go back I must have made the Sky Connect enable both but it's not giving me any options to delete it.

[ember raven]

I haven't tried removing the device, fully resetting it and adding it again. That's obviously annoying to do, but was hoping there's something else I can try.

[final aurora]

I actually fixed this problem there was an add-on called Silicon Labs. I had to start that then I was able to follow that guide. But after the update, it's saying my phone failed to set up but I can access HA from my phone so I don't know why it's saying its not connected.

[bold parrot]

Hi. Just come up to this comment in GitHub:
https://github.com/jacekk015/zha_quirks/issues/42#issuecomment-1862211236
Why no one helped him to promote his quirks to official ZHA quirks. I am using quite good thermostat quirk provided by him :/

[elder surge]

hello! 2 questions:

1. is it possible to use skyconnect with ZHA and then another adapter with z2m?
2. if so, is this the correct and popular adapter that people use with z2m? - https://itead.cc/product/sonoff-zigbee-3-0-usb-dongle-plus/

[sour shadow]

1. Yes
2. No - use any other CC2652 based option, ideally CC2652p7

[remote plaza]

I purchased the zigbee version of this light sensor https://www.joom.com/en/products/625532a51769a701f67de31c. I've paired it successfully but no sensors show up in HA. Do you think there's a problem with the sensor or is there a way to add the sensor (I think I added extra sensors to a camera device but I can't seem to see how to do that know, perhaps the front end has changed?)

[elder surge]

i was looking at running both to compare, and maybe z2m to update any firmware if i wanted to play around

[sour shadow]

Updating Zigbee firmware is a roll of the dice - maybe it'll help, maybe it'll mean you device doesn't work any more

[elder surge]

oh yeah? so you dont think i should bother?

[rapid dawn]

@elder surge When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[sour shadow]

I think you should only update if there's a reason to, you know the firmware is safe/good, or the manufacturer supports ZHA/Zigbee2MQTT

[elder surge]

what if its an offered update when XYZ device runs on z2m? would that make you more inclined to update or still the same stance?

for example: im pretty sure if i put my aqara cube on z2m that it would have an update. but since im on ZHA currently, i cant.

[sour shadow]

Just because it's offered doesn't mean it's safe/good

[elder surge]

alright

[sour shadow]

Only one manufacturer actively supports Z2M, none of the others care or know about it

[elder surge]

whats the flipside to that and being ZHA? is that more known?

[sour shadow]

No

Less well known

[remote plaza]

any ideas for this? I could have sworn there was an 'add additional sensors' button or something like that on the zigbee device page. Has anyone used this device? (using ZHA) If I press "reconfigure device" then show details I get a "TuyaIlluminanceMeasurement" field with a value. I just can't seem to read that value or see it on the zigbee page.

[elder surge]

forget if i asked this here before, do people buy sensors on aliexpress? looks like some aqara ones that are on amazon are also on there, sometimes cheaper

[remote plaza]

I've bought some motion sensors which have worked really well, super cheap too.

[elder surge]

thx

[wary pike]

Does anyone else see skyconnect (Zigbee only, with ZHA) keep disconnecting ?

Here is the messages I get from the kernel log:
[11104563.584723] usb 3-2-port2: disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling... [11104563.585972] usb 3-2.2: USB disconnect, device number 106

[elder surge]

i can look, where should i go to see the log you are looking at?

[wary pike]

Here you go: https://pastebin.com/wWYvj1sv Not a lot of info. For reference, this is the kernel log of the proxmox host where my HA VM is running.

[elder surge]

so its a log on proxmox?

[wary pike]

yes, proxmox's kernel log

[elder surge]

ill check mine

i dont see anything like that on mine. using the same setup though. prox with zha and skyconnect

[wary pike]

Googling a bit the EMI kernel log message, that may be related to a poor (badly insulated) USB extension cable. I will try to switch the cable to see if this fixes it.

[elder surge]

yeah i would definitely try a new cable in the same port first, then try a diff port

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHqZhNcFEvA look at this

keep the adapter away from usb3 stuff

[dawn violet]

No i dont think so

[ember raven]

Then I suggest you read up on how to get Zigbee working on HA first. There's a lot of resources out there, for ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT. I like Lewis from Everything Smart Home's video on the Zigbee2MQTT but that's just one of many. And of course you need a Zigbee controller as well, depending on what hardware you are using.

[sour shadow]

That assumes the sensor is a Zigbee one

Aqara also do non-Zigbee stuff

[dawn violet]

Yh

[sour shadow]

We need the actual model number of the device

[dawn violet]

aqara temperature sensor

[sour shadow]

That's not a model number

[dawn violet]

I guess its on the back

[sour shadow]

That's a vague name, that could be any one of dozens of things

[dawn violet]

MODEL : WSDCGQ11LM

[sour shadow]

That one is Zigbee

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/WSDCGQ11LM.html

[dawn violet]

oh nice!

[sour shadow]

"All" you need is a suitable coordinator, some Zigbee router devices, and to pick ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

[dawn violet]

Well right now its hooked up on a app

FutureHome Smart hub

[sour shadow]

Well, that hub has a Zigbee coordinator

And probably some of the connected devices are Zigbee routers (or this is all in a small area)

[dawn violet]

So how do i get it into HA

is there a documentation?

[sour shadow]

You "get" it into HA by using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

Both of which have docs

[dawn violet]

oh aight

[sour shadow]

Or somebody writes an integration for that hub

That may take a few years... or never happen

[dawn violet]

Yeah

[sour shadow]

Using ZHA/Z2M means removing the sensor from the FutureHome hub

[dawn violet]

Wait zha makes automations and Zigbe2MQTT connects to it?

[sour shadow]

No

[rapid dawn]

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

[sour shadow]

They're ( ☝️ ) two ways of getting Zigbee devices into HA

[dawn violet]

So i pair the sensor inside Zigbee2MQTT

[sour shadow]

if you pick that, yes

[dawn violet]

Alright whats the diffrance

Im a bit slow today sorry

[sour shadow]

#zigbee-archived message

Try reading the bot message

(though it's now a little outdated)

[cerulean flicker]

Hi. i read on a form that taking my HA offline for about 30 min, would force my zigbee devices to "panic", and it will re-map after i start it up again.. should this work with only shutting down the coordinator for 30 min, or should i do the whole thing?

im using Zigbee2mqtt

[sour shadow]

Just the coordinator

Stop Z2M, pull the power to the coordinator

[dawn violet]

What radio type is it

[sour shadow]

Zigbee...

[dawn violet]

oh shi. i just saw it

i thought it was multiple zigbee's

[sour shadow]

What?

[dusky beacon]

Hey guys, any idea when the deCONZ add-on will be updated to support the Conbee iii? (I asked on the deCONZ discord and was pointed here…). FYI migration to ZHA or Z2M not feasible as the Zigbee network is too large (136 devices) and re-adding/re-writing all automations and scenes far too big a job. Thanks!

[remote plaza]

ah, it finally showed up...I guess it needed to change the reading before the sensore showed...or something like that. Well, it got me to finally read the ZHA manual properly! 😂

[cerulean flicker]

Thank you!

[sour shadow]

https://github.com/home-assistant/addons/pull/3323 may help

[dawn violet]

wait is there a way to add futurehome smart hub into HA?

[sour shadow]

Did you search?

[dawn violet]

Yeah. And only a old intregration came up

[limpid cloud]

Stupid question: Are there cheap (like ESP32) zigbee DIY device platforms already, to do similar stuff as with ESPhome, but over zigbee? Or thread/matter? My skills are not good enough to go all in with ESP IDE, but more Arduino/Platformio/ESPhome level.

And battery powered

[sour shadow]

Not really, no

[full anchor]

im migrating my ikea light to home assistant via zigbee, without the hub, but it doesn't show up in the zigbee devices list

what was weird is that on first setup it didn't ask me to set up a network

[sage quartz]

Anyone here have HEIMAN HS1SA Smoke detectors? I was wondering if it's possible to manually trigger the alarm?

I want to make an automation that triggers the othre Smoke Detector if one of the other ones are detecting smoke.

[limpid cloud]

have you successfully paired it already? You have to put the light/bulb into pairing mode (switching it on/off 7? times or something), and add the device in the ZHA integration.

[full anchor]

Yeah it was pairing mode, but I didn't remove it from the previous system so it didn't like it, when I "forgot" the device and started pairing again it worked

[limpid cloud]

I think I've got one of those. I am using it with ZHA and did not find a way to trigger the alarm (without lighting a fire ;).

That was one reason I did not buy more of them and will be buying the frient intelligent smoke alarm in the future. This one can trigger the alarm, and is also much better supported in my opinion.

[sage quartz]

Ye, that was my conclusion too, thanks for the answer!

[sage quartz]

Frient intelligent looks awesome, but twice as expensive also, at least in my region.

[limpid cloud]

Yes, about twice as much. But I was pleasantly surprised how well it works, after trying Heiman and Mi/Aquara Honeywell.

I hope Ikea does one next 😉

After all they sold non-smart smoke alarms in the past, and are coming out with a flood alarm in april.

[sage quartz]

My current apartment is so small that I'd probably wake up even if the one in the living room goes off tho 😄 For the future I might upgrade to something else tho.

I have a Zigbee siren tho, and I was able to trigger that one in my bedroom when the one in the living room goes off tho. So I have that one as backup for now.

If the one in the Bedroom goes of tho, I will still hear it if I'm home and in another room since it's so small and I get messages on my phone, so I'm good for now.

[north willow]

I am trying to install Zigbee2mqtt on my Windows Server 2022 Hyper-V host and I am getting the following error when trying to start Zigbee2MQTT

Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-01-04 09:25:53: Logging to console and directory: 'c:\zigbee\data\log\2024-01-04.09-25-53' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-01-04 09:25:53: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.35.0 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-01-04 09:25:53: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.30.0)
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-01-04 09:25:53: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-01-04 09:25:53: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-01-04 09:25:53: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-01-04 09:25:53: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-01-04 09:25:53: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Opening \.\COM3: Access denied'
at SerialPort.<anonymous> (c:\zigbee\node_modules\zigbee-herdsman\src\adapter\z-stack\znp\znp.ts:146:28)
at SerialPort._error (c:\zigbee\node_modules@serialport\stream\dist\index.js:82:22)
at c:\zigbee\node_modules@serialport\stream\dist\index.js:118:18

[sour shadow]

Please share the config (YAML) for Z2M

[rapid dawn]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language, and consider picking a longer expiry)
• http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

[vocal vigil]

Morning, all. Happily sailing with my own system, but my friend is trying to get started for the first time and running into an issue I haven't got a clever idea on yet. He's set up HAOS on a Pi4, and added a Sonoff ZBDongle-E; all peachy, except he cannot pair anything successfully. Nothing shows up. He's tried moving the devices, every USB port, various cables to extend away from devices, verified channels and interference, but not seeming to find anything. He's in a steel studded highrise condo, I'm in a detached brick house with an N100 and SkyConnect, so not a ton of overlap for my own experience to help. He's trying to pair Ikea bulbs / a Vallhorn motion sensor, largely.

Wondering if anyone has troubleshooting ideas we've overlooked/not found on Google?

[rapid dawn]

@north willow I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[north willow]

I also tried with homeassistant: true and adding MQTT username and password

[sour shadow]

The problem is the serial port

Error while opening serialport 'Error: Opening \.\COM3: Access denied'

[north willow]

Yeah i dont see anywhere that I can add permissions

[sour shadow]

The account can't access that port... no idea how you do that on Windows though

[north willow]

Its wierd because I am logged in as the main Administrator account

and have Command prompt open as administrator

[astral seal]

This might help
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/707320/attach-usb-device-to-hyper-v-guest-machine

[north willow]

Thanks but that is if the guest is Windows also

It seems you cant pass the USB through to Home assistant, that is why i am trying to run it on the Server itself

[half lake]

Hello, I need some help. I am using ZAH and added a TRV thermostat. How do I configure temperature presets? I saw in the Home Assistant docs that the climate component can have presets.

[ember raven]

Can you explain how you want to use presets? Do you mean certain temperatures for "home/away/off" etc? or?

[half lake]

yes

My TRV is registered as a climate entity

But there are no presets

Now I want to know how to add presets to the climate entity

[ember raven]

I would ask that in #templates-archived I think, as it's not a specific Zigbee question. Some TRVs I think have those options within the firmware, but I believe you still need to deal with it in a template or an automation to make that work. I haven't looked into it yet myself but also still want to do it. For now I just set the temperature with an automation without using the presents.

[snow trellis]

A ZigBee Coordinator configured in HA can retain its properties in ZigBee integration after I plug it on another HA instance and do some testing / configuration with another integration (Mosquito)?

[signal wraith]

I have a couple Aqara sensors connected via a Conbee II zigbee stick with HA. They connect and work fine. however I want to adjust some of their settings. Like sensitivity. However when I try to write to them, it fails. The motion sensor has a UI interface in HA where I can change the settings, but I get an error when it tries. I know I can via the app, but I don't have a hub or the app and would perfer not getting one, unless I have to. Has anyone had success in writing to a sensor? Motion and Vibration.

[austere patio]

ZHA still create a repair to fix the network settings after you change them by using another integration so you won't lose anything

[winter cove]

does anyone have a Develco (or frient) SRZB-110 customizable siren connected through Zigbee2mqtt? I'm having a weird problem with choosing alarm sound for mine, and wonder if anyone else is having the same issue

[cerulean flicker]

Hi. I have a Frient Motion Sensor (Zigbee Model MOSZB-156), that turns up as Not supported in zigbee2mqtt.
It is available in ZHA, so i wonder if there is a easy way to make it compatable ? with 0 skills in this

I could run it on ZHA with a other zigbee coordinator, but really wanted ths within my main network

[lusty yew]

My assumption from this error would be that something else has the port open. Do you have any poorly behaved programs like Cura (3d print software) open that will hold a serial port?

[vocal vigil]

Further digging has just got us in the "saturated with interference" area. Channels reporting values from 23.3-93.7.

Any other secret best practices for reducing this in a crowded apartment setting?

[austere patio]

23% isn't bad. Can you post the full scan?

[vocal vigil]

As of that moment:

      "12": 73.50699819621309,
      "13": 52.75969252664325,
      "14": 23.33483723001185,
      "15": 65.26028270288712,
      "16": 73.50699819621309,
      "17": 75.96022321405563,
      "18": 75.96022321405563,
      "19": 49.512515447068886,
      "20": 36.830390267097734,
      "21": 70.89933442360993,
      "22": 49.512515447068886,
      "23": 52.75969252664325,
      "24": 52.75969252664325,
      "25": 46.26944564832987,
      "26": 93.76433891498253```

It's varied quite a lot between different USB cables; I'm not able to rule out something weird with the Pi itself or as a platform, but its been tried in a few locations in the house with similar results. We're half tempted to set up a laptop or vm with the Sonoff just to see if it shows the same sort of results.

[keen meteor]

Hello everyone! So I recently got a HA Green and a SkyConnect, hoping to fully replace my Philips Hue Bridge. However, it appears I didn't do my research, as I have one of the old Hue Tap switches that I was hoping to migrate. As I have come to understand, it uses Zigbee Green Power, which isn't supported by the SkyConnect according to the device FAQ.

Asking here to confirm, am I completely out of luck with my current hardware to integrate the Hue Tap switch?

[austere patio]

Zigbee Green Power isn't supported by the Zigbee Home Automation integration (but I'm hoping it will be next release!). Zigbee2MQTT supports it.

[keen meteor]

Thanks for the answer! As I thought, no dice currently. Oh well, here's hoping for next release!

[wooden stream]

Any suggestions for where or how to just buy a bunch of cheap zigbee devices? What devices would they be?

[dapper sand]

these lights: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RTZ8ZQC
are zigbee endpoints

these ones: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073P7HXHY
are routers

[sour shadow]

AliExpress, and whatever you need

[remote wagon]

After updating to Home assistant 2024.1, my zigbee2mqtt setup seems to be having some major issues.To the extent that turning off a light in a lovelace interface does nothing to the interface. And the light only responds some 10-60 seconds afterwards. Manually signalling the device from z2m's interface has the same delay, but the switch does appear to move.

[wary harbor]

I'm noticing one sensor (aqara p1) recently going "unavailable" and then going back to normal randomly. I'm using the TubesZB CC2652 coordinator with ZHA. It happened again now, and I found this in the system logs https://bpa.st/S7ZQ - https://bpa.st/JZ2A. I have 3 battery devices and two bulbs that are currently being used. I'm wondering if it's a signal issue where I need to get more routers or if it's something else. The p1 diagnostics here https://dpaste.org/M9e22. ZHA diagnostics here https://dpaste.org/cdKSE. Any ideas how I can troubleshoot this?

[austere patio]

None of your other devices do this?

[wary harbor]

not that I've noticed, they look fine

[wary harbor]

it looks like this https://ibb.co/dkYJfLd

[wary harbor]

idk if this helps https://ibb.co/d7gFWGW

[austere patio]

It is connected to an IKEA bulb that is shown as offline. Is the bulb turned off?

[wary harbor]

yes actually, I can see it as "unavailable", that bulb is with that p1 in a closet. Weird

the bulb is plugged in tho

[austere patio]

Is it actually powered on?

[wary harbor]

in one of those plug sockets, let me try to relocate it, i wonder if the socket died

[wary harbor]

yes it should be, unless the socket died

[wary harbor]

I have it in something like this https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-Outlet-to-Socket-Light-Plug-White-R52-00061-00W/100170446

[wary harbor]

looks like the whole closet lost power, so the bulb was offline. Power is restored now. I guess that was the main issue, sorry about that.

[iron mauve]

In Z2MQTT, what does it mean if I have a bunch of devices on the Map that have no lines at all to either a router or the coordinator? These devices do indeed work, but sometimes intermittently. This isn't a new problem, they're just devices I don't use super often. They also have no LQI on the map, but they do on the Devices & Dashboard pages in Z2MQTT.

[wary harbor]

@austere patio btw, is there an issue with the channel? is it too congested?

[molten linden]

20 looks to be clearer than 15 which is what you are on. You can move channels with the zha config page, just hit the pencil next to the current channel. Auto will pick the best channel out of 15/20/25 and 11 as a last choice. Most I think have been pretty successful, but you may up having to re-pair a few devices.

[wary harbor]

looks like I'm on 15, but thanks for the tip

[limpid cloud]

If you've got an Ikea nearby I think Ikea's devices ara amongst those with the best value. Bulbs work just fine even if their light is not as colourful as the one from Hue, plugs are cheap and work well, Remotes/Wall buttons have a really thought out design in their second iteration.

Aside from Ikea's stuff I like Aquara, these devices are so well designed and compact, and also work very well.

[sour shadow]

In Z2MQTT, what does it mean if I have a

[limpid cloud]

Naive question: Is there an easy way to check the general reliability of my ZHA Zigbee network as far as itself can diagnose this? Like some command giving a single value for how well everything is working?

[cyan nexus]

I have a H1 from aqara (double) and a hue light, both connected to HA through ZHA with the sonoff, when I turn on the light on HA (without any automation) (the switch is on) it goes on and then the switch goes off and the light as well (they are coupled). I can't find any log of what's happening, and also the light and switch become irresponsible on HA for a while. Any help would be great. Also the H1 is the no neutral and the light is connected to the L1 and nothing on L2

[gray pumice]

Anyone else having skyconnect z2m issues after recent update ?

[gray pumice]

Somethings up...: https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/19168

[river hatch]

I have some of the mijia thermometers on zigbee.
Originally I had it on zha and it was 5 minute notify time
Then I setup z2m but it was crashing my haos so I swapped back but it was 5 min on that too
Now it looks like theyre taking up to 30 minutes?

What have I done wrong?

[last ruin]

Is there a general way to reset the kWh counter of Zigbee devices? I'm using Z2M.

[river hatch]

Also zha stuck initialising now

2024-01-05 22:37:41.048 ERROR (DbWorker_0) [homeassistant.components.logbook.processor] Error with zha describe event for zha_event
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/logbook/processor.py", line 243, in _humanify
    data = describe_event(event_cache.get(row))
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/logbook.py", line 41, in async_describe_zha_event
    zha_device = async_get_zha_device(hass, event.data[ATTR_DEVICE_ID])
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/helpers.py", line 245, in async_get_zha_device
    zha_gateway = get_zha_gateway(hass)
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/helpers.py", line 459, in get_zha_gateway
    raise ValueError("No gateway object exists")

[hybrid peak]

Hello, can anybody tell me where I can find more information on the attributes that are behind "Manage zigbee device"?

[reef inlet]

hi, I have a few ikea bulbs and they probably need firmware updating, is there a way I can determine what fw version i'm on and what is the latest version and how can i tell if ZHA has updated them or not? I've added the relavent lines to the config.yaml file

[hasty bay]

What trouble shooting steps are there for when zigbee was working using sky connect now all of a sudden just stops. Sorry newbie HA green user

[sour shadow]

You've checked HA's (Core) log file?

[astral seal]

You want the "Zigbee cluster library specification"

Though you'll see discrepancies when a device doesn't follow established specs, as a lot of manufacturers are known for.

[reef inlet]

https://zigbeealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/07-5123-06-zigbee-cluster-library-specification.pdf

good luck with that though 🙂

[hasty bay]

Speaking to me? Where would I look for that? Still learning my way around

Apparently I’m using multiprotocol and the channels are different. I see the repair message but not finding where they want me to go

Disregard I found it

[reef inlet]

is there a way of forcing zha to update firmwares ?

as I don't think it's done it automatically as implied in the doc

[cyan nexus]

What could be the reason behind aqara H1 (double) "disconnecting" (not from the network, ask no response to touch) when turning on the light after a long time without using (it turns on and then off)

[steady valve]

hi.
i am using zigbee2mqtt in HA.
zigbee2mqtt shows the "locale temperature" from my avatto ZWT198 in the WebUi (device->state) but this value is not accessible in HA.
is there a way to get this value in HA? same problem is with sonoff TRVZB

[reef inlet]

how can you update the firmware of a motion sensor when they effectivly turn themselves off if there is no motion?

[sour shadow]

Keep tapping the "wake/pair" button

Or wait, a loooong time

[thorny grail]

hi i am using proxmox to host all my services including hoass and i had to passtrough my zigbee usb to my homeassistant container this worked until i updated my homeassistant today to 2024 1 and it just stopped working.

[reef inlet]

is zha smart enough to download the firmware fully first and upload a bit at a time? you would have thought that a sensor would be configured to stay online if it receives notification that its getting an update!! 😦 i've moved the sensor to near me so that its constantly getting some kind of motion, but i fear that it still turns off. hopefully it continues where it left off

says 2.2% in the debug logs after 15 mins of trying, lol. 😐 thats like 12 hours of needing to be near it!

[hasty bay]

most of my zigbee sensors have stopped working. no clue how to fix this. they no longer work work in automations nor do they work manually

how can i debug this

[limpid cloud]

ZHA? What does the network map say?
I mean "Visualisation", you can reach it from the "configure" button on the ZHA integration page.

[astral seal]

The map isn't really that helpful. You can have a device that works perfectly fine that won't show a path in the visualization.
The first thing to try is hitting whatever button the sensor has to "wake" it up and see if that fixes it. If not, the best thing to do is reset the re-pair the device without removing it from ZHA. Or z2m. Whatever you use.
If this has happened before or it happens again, you might want to look into adding more router devices if you don't have a whole lot or identifying and mitigating interference.

[austere patio]

Once a firmware update is started, the device is responsible for asking for chunks of firmware at whatever rate it can handle. There's really no way at the moment to speed it up. Just leave it be and come back later 😄

[true wing]

ZHA: I have a few zigbee devices which are displaying battery levels of > 100% I think it's a scale of 0-255, because the newest ones are showing 255%. Is this a configuration error on my part, or is it more likely to be a quirks issue? All of them are IKEA devices.

[austere patio]

I believe 255 is "unknown". The scale is 0-200 for some devices, 0-100 for others.

[true wing]

ZHA: Hrm. Interesting. OK. Is there something I should do to force it to "interview" the device to get the real value?

[hasty bay]

Some red, some green lines most zigbee sensors show no lines.

[limpid cloud]

So no recognizable pattern (more in one area, on one side of the house etc, certain device types)?

I've often had problems when certain areas would fall offline once in a while, and a router somewhere in between would fix ist. Mabe the noise level has gone up (e.g. because a neighbour has something that interferes)?

[hasty bay]

My home is multiple levels and it seems like the upper level sensors are the red ones.

[austere patio]

What device is this?

[true wing]

Ikea Tradensen Cellular Shades and two Ikea Styrbar 4 button "switches".

[limpid cloud]

The Ikea Styrbar button has a "connection" button at the back next to the batteries I think. It is very weird to get to pair. It says pressing and holding the button at least 10 seconds, but I remember one of mine reacted only after wildlly pressing the button several times, taking out the batteries, and other probably irrational and desperate measures 😉

[true wing]

Yeah, it was a bear to pair. I've forgotten, but I think the patter was pushing it 4 times quickly?

I think the 10 second push is "reset"

[limpid cloud]

Might very well be true. The devices that need 4 times in succession also need the right timing I think.

[hasty bay]

does anyone know how to find what might have disrupted zha i have it on channel 25.

[austere patio]

Can you enable debug logging, reload ZHA, let it run for like 20 minutes, and then disable logging so that it downloads a log?

[true wing]

sure. That'll likely be a large file. What's the best method for delivery?

[austere patio]

Oh, that was meant as a reply to @hasty bay but I can look at your log too with the battery issue. It may take a lot longer though because the remote would have to report a battery update. If you ZIP it it'll likely shrink significantly. If it's still too big to send over Discord, you can re-host it somewhere and send me a link.

[hasty bay]

what battery issues? my problem was all the zigbee devices just stopped working.

[austere patio]

@true wing is having battery reporting issues. You're having other issues. It doesn't really matter what they are, need debug logs either way 😄

[true wing]

Sorry Elliot, he was responding to me. 🙂

[hasty bay]

sorry long day 🙂

[peak trout]

I have a previously working zigbee that won't start on 2023.7.0.dev20230626

[austere patio]

Are you using multi-PAN?

[peak trout]

I posted logs in hardware

[austere patio]

Can you link them here?

[peak trout]

see if I can figure how, it won't let me attach here...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cqeCrSHTeBapfFr_ZZCUcbKeh-Fn26EyeBrNJdgXrhU/edit?usp=drive_link

this allowed?

[peak trout]

IDK, what that is

[austere patio]

The link isn't public so I can't download them

[peak trout]

oh, one sec

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cqeCrSHTeBapfFr_ZZCUcbKeh-Fn26EyeBrNJdgXrhU/edit?usp=sharing

likely the fun stuff is at the bottom where I restarted the service 2x times

[desert burrow]

after a power outlet, all my ikea lamps is unavalible. i tried tunring lamp of and waiting a minute and then turn on but no luck, is there any smart way to get them back ? or sync them back. i can always re add them, but its a hustle with all the names in automations and such.

any advices ?

[true wing]

Puddly, here's the debug log regarding my ikea devices battery levels: <deleted>

switches (buttons) are: 0x18b1 and 0xef2a and blinds are 0xe25d

[mellow geode]

It's a known quirks issue: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Abug+ikea

Older devices need the doubling and I don't think we can easily match the firmware version properly. The "file version" is only saved in the HA registry, not zigpy one

If the sw_build_id attribute would be cached (and updated after an OTA upgrade), we could match it properly, but it's not for now.

My idea was to just remap the battery voltage to a percentage, so we can "ignore" the percentage reported by IKEA. This will work for old and new firmware.

Although we'd have to make sure the voltage => percentage is mapped as IKEA does it.

[true wing]

Gotcha. I was wondering if it was a quirk. That makes sense!

Thank you for the clarification!

[mellow geode]

It's on my list to get fixed, but ideally it's fixed in a way that works for old and new firmware, as ZHA doesn't have OTA updates enabled by default.

[true wing]

totally makes sense.

[peak trout]

Did anyone have time to look at my issues

[hasty bay]

Anyone know how to fix all my zigbee sensors going into unknown status? Initially thought it was interference but it’s been down all day.

Don’t want to redo all of this as I have 30+ sensors.

[peak trout]

huh, my issue started this way, what's the integration say?

Mine says "Failed to setup"

[hasty bay]

All my sensors are still there but if I click any of them all say Unavailable

[peak trout]

Gear, then integrations

[hasty bay]

And I have them in automations which no longer work

[peak trout]

Actually a restart of Homeassistant didn't fix mine but a 'docker restart hass' did!

Are you running homeassistant in a container?

[hasty bay]

HA green

[peak trout]

you can try to reload the zigbee integration or reboot the HA green? I don't know much tbh, but I just fixed mine! 😄

good luck

[hasty bay]

I have rebooted several times no luck

Thanks 😭

[austere patio]

Can you post a link to some logs?

[hasty bay]

Which one?

[austere patio]

Debug logs. The instructions I posted above were for you.

[scarlet temple]

I am having issues with these senlgled bulbs being stuck on a router with a poor signal how can I force the zha network to update to some of the upstairs routers

i have added over time

[grim igloo]

sengled bad mmkay

[astral seal]

Have the closest router "add devices via this device" (ZHA) or "permit join" (z2m). Then reset the Sengled bulb.

[shadow tartan]

Will removing and re adding a device help at all if the device becomes problematic?

I have a Sonoff presence sensor. It was working good for a week. Now it's stuck on detected.

[astral seal]

Before you do that, try to reset the device and re-pair without removing the device from your network.

[shadow tartan]

Okay, I'll try that.

[scarlet temple]

Do I need to remove from the network first

[astral seal]

No

[scarlet temple]

Thank you

[shadow tartan]

No luck it seems with repairing. Guess I'll try removing it and bringing it back.

Good thing I can still return it. Now if only the Everything Presence Lite could be available 😔

[shadow tartan]

Hmm, I think doing that actually helped. Cool down time is atrocious now, but it will clear eventually.

That doesn't bother me as long as it detects me fast for automations, and it seems almost the same as before.

[river hatch]

I have some of the mijia thermometers on zigbee.
Originally I had it on zha and it was 5 minute notify time
Then I setup z2m but it was crashing my haos so I swapped back but it was 5 min on that too
Now it looks like theyre taking up to 30 minutes?

What have I done wrong?

[river hatch]

I have setup zha-tookit but I am not sure what I need to setup for cluster and attribute to read report time

https://github.com/mdeweerd/zha-toolkit#conf_report_read-read-configured-reporting

nvm, worked it out. Did a scan device first

[rapid dawn]

@river hatch I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[river hatch]

It looks like all of the thermometers have 900 max, but only the bedroom thermometer is taking that long

[hidden wigeon]

Hey Everyone, I hope this is the right place for this question. Can anyone tell me the difference between grouping lights in a zigbee group compared to a light group as a helper in HA?

[cerulean flicker]

Yes.. grouping them in zigbee, means that HA sends one command, and all the lights in that group turns off / on at the same time.
Making HA send commands to all the lights in that group, and one by one will react.

Fastest response is true zigbee grouping 🙂

im not a expart, but thats my experiance.
I just stated using them myself, and it respons allot faster

If you make one group in HA then a identical one in Zigbee group, you can se the difference your self 🙂

[hidden wigeon]

I figured there must have been a use for them otherwise it wouldn't have been implemented over HA grouping but the zigbee groups are somewhat hidden away

[cerulean flicker]

Not sure why you say hidden, as they are easily accessible inside the Z2M dashboard or the ZHA overview.

a HA group you can add more then just zigbee.. so if you have 2 zigbee devices, 2 bt, 2 zwave, then you can group them there

[river hatch]

I don't know if it's hidden away. It's just in the zigbee integration because that's where it exists, whereas HA groups are global to any lighting entity so its more visible

[hidden wigeon]

Yeah I think hidden is a poor way of phrasing it. It's just more obscure for the reasons mentioned. I'm going to change some of my light groups to zigbeegroups and see if that make a difference

[river hatch]

It depends if it makes a difference to you. I work with dali which is the same idea. Instead of it saying Light1 on, Light2 On, Light 3 on. It just says Group on

One command out, command routed, one command received, one command processed

Compared to
Comand out, command routed, Command received, Command processed, repeat

[hidden wigeon]

I do make use of the adaptive lighting which sends relatively many commands over the zigbee network so that might take some load off the network.

And I can imagine that turning off all the lights at once will be more robust as well if you use a zigbee group

[river hatch]

Effect is also dependant on your network. Command has to route out. So if its one hop to each light. I would say issue is negligible. If its a long distance then the routing can take its own time and one command is better than routing out multiple commands

[hidden wigeon]

Do you have control over how the devices are connected and how many hops are made?

When I click the visualisation tab it seems like everything is directly connected with everything even though I have 57 devices

[river hatch]

Not sure on zigbee tbh, you'll have to wait for a guru

On thread they periodically negotiate the network route table and it changes over time. So idk on zigbee

[hidden wigeon]

Thanks for the help so far. I have some groups to configure now.

[solar sluice]

Group commands are broadcasted ( https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/usage/groups.html#how-do-groups-work)
And there's a limit on the amount of broadcasts per time (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/advanced/zigbee/02_improve_network_range_and_stability.html#broadcasts)

[solar sluice]

Also this
https://community.silabs.com/s/article/guidelines-for-large-dense-networks-with-emberznet-pro?language=en_US

[dusty mango]

My (new) skyconnect does not appear in Settings > System > Hardware.

It *does *appear in the official ZigBee Home Automation integration.

However, I want matter, so I need to enable multi-protocol support as described in https://skyconnect.home-assistant.io/procedures/enable-multiprotocol/

I can't see any relevant issues, and a (albeit quick) search of this forum was not instructive.

Any tips?

The hardware is a RaspPi 4 and latest software (2024.1.1).

[dapper sand]

is a Zigbee network dynamic - eg with the addition of routers and endpoints do the connections change or is it static once in place?

so for instance if I've got a cluster of devices with iffy connectivity to the coordinator, if I add a router to bridge the gap better, will the mesh change?

[languid sky]

What can be a reason for LQI being "Unknown" for Zigbee devices? I'm using ZHA, Sonoff USB ‎ZBdongle-P and the devices are Sonoff SNZB-02 Temp&Humid sensors. How do I debug/fix this? It sometimes works (shows LQI values), and sometimes doesn't. Most of the time it works for some sensors, while at the same time it does not for others (I have 6 of them).

[main ruin]

Theoretically yes, practically it may depends on the manufacturer and the device if that happens

[dapper sand]

lol thanks I hate it

[mortal raven]

Hi guys!
I spotted this reference of Zigbee connected thermostat, would you have an opinion to give me?
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B095HYFFML/?coliid=I1WN8286DE39EX&colid=158E7VF8EOE2Y&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

[hidden wigeon]

I've just finished updating all the light groups and 50+ automations but it does seem to synchronise a lot better now when changing light states.

[cerulean flicker]

good!

[hidden wigeon]

So I guess the network is now less congested and I can add more devices without running into much trouble. So much better than the original hue bridge that already struggled with 4 wall switches and 3 motion sensors

[cerulean flicker]

i feel yah. i have my whole 1st floor with hue lights... and i`m not going to do that for my 2nd floor.
When i start on secound floor, i will run zigbee dimmer switches instead and normal light bulbs that works if HA or the zigbee coordinator breaks

[hidden wigeon]

Bought the hue lights mostly because I really liked the light quality of the white ambiance stuff but nowadays most manufacturers have caught up with that. And now I'm stuck with all the hue bulbs that can't be updated because of the closed ecosystem. Not the worst for the bulbs but the first gen motion sensors have some weird bug where they keep disconnecting from the network. I've fixed that by turning off some security features but that's not really a permanent solution

[austere patio]

Hue bulbs support OTA updates. The ZHA integration just doesn't support showing them to you. It's still possible to update them in the background with a YAML config.

[mighty bone]

Hi, I just created a new group for Z2M in the groups.yaml (included in configuration.yaml of zigbee2mqtt), but the group won't show up in the UI. I restartet HA and the Z2M Addon

Did I miss something?

[cerulean flicker]

You should make it in the Zigbee2mqtt UI, up in the midde there, you can se a group menu

UI

[hidden wigeon]

But where would you find those update files?

[mighty bone]

Create the group or restart Z2M to make thge group recognized?

So I can't create a group in the yaml?

[cerulean flicker]

i edited my last reply, go to zigbee2mqtt main page, there is a button on the top menu that is called "group"

[mighty bone]

I know I can create groups there, but there I can't add another group as a member. Using the friednly name of another group in the yaml works for that

[cerulean flicker]

then im not sure 🙂 sorry

[brave jungle]

Hello to all.. I'm desperated... No way I can have Zigbee2MQTT working.. Mosquitto is installed... seems to work.. Zigbee2mqtt also... But no way it wants to detect any device.. something must be wrong somewhere... Any clue on where I should look for?

[cerulean flicker]

Did you push permit to join, and factory reset your device ?

[brave jungle]

the devices works, as I do see them in my ZHA integration (with Skyconnect key).. But cannot see them in my Zigbee2mqtt (Conbee2 key)

Yes I did push the permet to join button

and in the log it well show the message publishes :
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-01-06 19:00:46: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/response/permit_join', payload '{"data":{"time":254,"value":true},"status":"ok","transaction":"bqtmv-1"}'

[cerulean flicker]

You need to remove it from the ZHA integration before you add it to Z2M

[austere patio]

Is your Conbee on a USB extension cable?

[brave jungle]

Yes I did..

[brave jungle]

Yes it is..

Should I see the Conbee II as a device in Z2MQTT? As I don't see any device at all.. and none is appearing when I try pairing

[left canyon]

no, in your zigbee2mqtt konfiguration you should add to serail something like ;

adapter: deconz
port: >-
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mellow geode]

Here: https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-OTA/blob/master/index.json
Serarch for hue.com, download all those files and put them in a zha_ota folder in your HA /config directory. Then, you can configure that folder in your configuration.yaml and trigger the ota_notify command for each light. You'll see the update progress in the home-assistant.log file if you enable debug logs too.

After the update(s) finished, run the ota_notify command again. Some bulbs have another update (they change the requested file id)

If you have ones that get stuck on an update, let me know. There are some intermediary versions that I didn't put on that repo yet.

(To add, it's annoying that Hue doesn't publish the firmware links themselves)

There are also two useful community wiki entries regarding OTA updates:

• https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/wiki/OTA-Device-Firmware-Updates
• https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/wiki/OTA-Information-for-Manufacturers (UI screenshot: "Manage Zigbee device")

[hidden wigeon]

Yeah that's what I meant. The problem is not that you can't install updates, just that it is hard to find the files from a reliable source. I'll check if I have time to update everything this weekend. Thanks for the help!

[mellow geode]

Yeah, the link above has all the latest firmware files at least

[hidden wigeon]

I really hope signify comes around and start making these updates public. I'm really considering just buying ikea bulbs in the future for the sole reason that they do provide firmware files.

[mellow geode]

For now, there are ways around them not making them available public, but they should do it still.
In my experience, IKEA bulbs have been inferior both hardware-wise and software-wise (although the newer bulbs run improved firmware now whilst older bulbs did not get updated).

But IKEA bulbs are still fine I think

[brave jungle]

I have this

port: /dev/ttyACM1
adapter: deconz

So I should replace the port by
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2446520-if00
??

[river hatch]

I haven't decided on a light yet. What other manufacturers are there

[compact oak]

guys, i need your help with zigbee2mqtt. i have connected the devices but they do not update their status. For example in the motion sensor it always stays busy

[soft saddle]

So I had to restore from an old backup, and now Z2M is showing all my devices in the logs, but the UI only shows the devices that were part of the network when the last backup ocurred. Is there a way to get Z2M to populate the devices that are part of the mesh but were added after the backup?

[austere patio]

Permit joins and reboot them

[regal pumice]

I'm trying to setup this injection zigbee switch

It's a sonoff zb mini

There's two neutral inputs one live input and one live output alongside two trigger terminals for one to two dumb switches

I want to use it at my junction for my video doorbell, so I can Power cycle it.. since wyze video doorbells tend to need to be pyshcially powerd on and off alot when things go wrong

To my understanding I can ignore the s1 and s2 rails since I'm not terminating dumb switches

Obviously live in is for my hot from the transformer and neutral in is also for my transformer neutral. (AC)

Live out goes to the camera/application I would assume

So what about thr cameras neutral?

Does it go into the second neutral in since usually neutral wires are tied together?

I posted a picture of the device in #the-water-cooler

[cerulean abyss]

Just an FYI you can upload pictures ot imgur to share

[regal pumice]

I was being lazy ahaha, thanks for the heads up

[ivory sinew]

Does anybody here use zigbee TRV's that support Better Thermostat's adjustment via Calibration / Offset rather than messing with the TRV's target temp?

[left canyon]

shouldn't matter, but i never tried /dev/ttyACM1

[tame harness]

anyone here using ZHA with Ikea Tradfri shortcut buttons?

I'm having issues with it sending 5 events for one press and i'm trying to figure out 1. why and 2. how to make it send one or have HASS only identify one

[austere bridge]

FYI the ZBMini is the only device I've ever encountered that made my entire network unstable. Ended up throwing it away.

[regal pumice]

Last thing I wanna hear 😭 I'll let you know ow how it goes

[empty igloo]

anyone got the Ikea Vallhorn working without the Dirigera?

either through something like the Sonoff dongle or Hue

[vocal vigil]

FWIW to anyone else, we finally had a breakthrough - we fully removed the antenna from the Sonoff ZBDongle-E. The levels immediately jumped to reasonable, and everything paired to the coordinator like a champ. I have no idea if the antenna is bad, or if having the antenna just caused the device to pick up every network and interference in the world, but it seems to be working solid as can be with no antenna at all.

[vocal vigil]

Yep, I've got one with my SkyConnect and my buddy just added one via a Sonoff; both working fine in ZHA.

[empty igloo]

Glad to hear! I didn't manage to get it working with my Hue bridge, so I just ordered a Sonoff ZBDongle-E and it should arrive on tuesday

[compact oak]

practically always remains in the same state. It never changes. How is that possible?

[burnt tapir]

Whats one of the better zigbee bridges out there? HA Skyconnect? something else?
Located in Canada - local shipping would be nice, but not a total necessity.

Currently have z-wave as USB dongle - but if theres a better combo z-wave/zigbee AP, open to that as well - if Ethernet/POE cool. Started integration with a few WiFi devices - despite having good network, devices disconnecting - so furthering integrations want to go with zigbee/zwave networks.

[icy crane]

Has anyone elses ZHA integration been stuck on "initializing" for the last few updates? 2023.12 or 2024.1?

[tropic depot]

enable debug for zha

reload it

wait about 10 mins and put the log on a sharing site somewhere and post the link

don't filter anything out of it please

[golden vessel]

I was under the impression that ZHA with ezsp used channel 15 by default, but I just noticed with zigpy info that it appears to be using 25 (at least that is what is on Channel: ). Is this now the default?

Also, why is the Channel mask showing all the channels and not only 25?

[tropic depot]

there isn't really a default now

[golden vessel]

it scans for the best?

[tropic depot]

we scan for the channel with the least noise

out of 11, 15, 20, 25 IIRC

[golden vessel]

cool! that happens when the network is formed initially?

[tropic depot]

yep

enable debug you should see it

[golden vessel]

and what is the channel mask used for?

I think in the past I always seen it having only 1 channel

[austere patio]

Nothing really, just a remnant from back when we were trying to figure out how to make backups work. It'll probably get dropped eventually.

I believe only routers and other devices than scan for networks use it

[golden vessel]

ah ok. I think I've also seen it on Deconz UI (but it was a long long time ago)

I've noticed something weird on the power scan. Channel 25 was one of the best (around 20%), but 26 was the worse, usually on 90%-100%!

any clues on what could be making that much nooise on 26 without affecting 25?

[tropic depot]

what channel are you on now?

[golden vessel]

25 (it was the one already selected)

despite being the best, I'm not too happy with the proximity to 26

[tropic depot]

for an example my prod runs 25 and because of how much traffic i generate it oscillates between high 70's and high 90's % wise

everything works fine

[golden vessel]

that network is pretty light, without that much devices yet

so 25 was not noisy

[tropic depot]

you should be fine... if you run into issues you can migrate later w/ little hassle

I migrated from 15 a while back... all devices made the trip

[golden vessel]

even xiaomi sensors? 😄

[tropic depot]

yep

surprisingly

[golden vessel]

interesting!

you just used the HA ui to do it?

[austere patio]

The channel selection algorithm actually takes into account nearby noisy channels like this. So for 25 to be better than 15 and 20 means those ones are somehow worse. Or your RF environment changed between the time the network was setup and now

[cloud swallow]

i have just gotten zigbee2mqtt installed, with pairing allowed. i'm getting 'starting interview ... interview failed' messages. i have never had any zigbee network set up here, and there are only a few zigbee devices nearby that i know of — and none of them should be in pairing mode, though it's possible some might be because they've never paired with anything before.

is it possible to identify what this device might be from its IEEE address?

[golden vessel]

it could have changed. it is a new apartment block, so things were still getting installed both in that appartment and the ones around

but it is weird to see 26 always on 90%

[cloud swallow]

possible candidates are:
• 4 hue bulbs that, hitherto, have only ever been used with bluetooth
• an innr smart socket

there are some other 802.15.4 devices around, but they definitely shouldn't be in pairing mode. there is the SMETS2 HAN (utility smart meters), a tado bridge and its devices (6LoWPAN) and a sure petcare smart cat flap. but all of those are already paired with their respective hubs.

[golden vessel]

I've also noticed really high CCA errors :/

[dapper sand]

will this:
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tradfri-shortcut-button-white-smart-20356382/
work on my zigbee network without an Ikea hub?

[cloud swallow]

i also have two amazon echo dot v5s, but i don't think they have zigbee radios in them (unlike the full-sized echo v4)

[cloud swallow]

wish i were in a position to advise! i would have thought so. depends on your zigbee coördinator, i guess.

[dapper sand]

just found the Sonoff SNZB-01 which is probably more of a sure thing. Just looking for a simple zigbee button.

oh and Aqara has one too. hmmm

[cloud swallow]

what zigbee bridge/hub/coördinator are you using?

if zigbee2mqtt, there is a comprehensive list of supported devices, and adding new devices is relatively easy

[dapper sand]

using ZHA with a Sonoff USB dongle on the server itself.

[austere patio]

The choice of coordinator really doesn't matter beyond the integration being able to use it. Once you have one running, it doesn't care about devices on your network: that's the job of the integration.

Think of it like a WiFi adapter dictating what websites you can visit

[cloud swallow]

AIUI, the coördinator still has to understand how to present the device to the integration, which is why z2m has such a list, and also instructions on how to get it to support devices it doesn't already know about

[austere patio]

The coordinator just says "a new device with ID 0x1234 joined" and Z2M is the one that sends requests to figure out what the device is. The coordinator doesn't play any part in this beyond connecting Z2M to your Zigbee network.

[cloud swallow]

i will soon find out about exactly that process: that precise innr smart socket isn't listed as supported, but some closely-related models are and i should be able to adapt their definitions to suit

[dapper sand]

found this: https://zigbee.blakadder.com/zha.html
and the sonoff switch and the aqara are both listed

for ZHA compatibillity

there's a warning about the sonoff switch dropping off the network frequently though, no such thing with the aqara

[austere patio]

The earlier battery-powered Sonoff stuff is generally 👎

[golden vessel]

Suporte of a device does not depend on the coordinator. If the coordinator works with an integration (zha, z2m, etc), the support for a specific device depends only on the integration, not coordinator

[dapper sand]

I've got some of the aqara FP2 sensors and are loving them, so I've got good vibes with aqara already. aqara it is.

[cloud swallow]

okay; oh, yes, the coördinator is in the actual zigbee interface, isn't it? that's why you can choose to flash router or coördinator firmware, egi into sonoff

what do you call z2m's role in this, then?

[austere patio]

It's the software that interviews devices on the network and exposes them to an automation engine in a somewhat standard way

[cloud swallow]

would it qualify as "the integration", in this context?

okay, thanks.

so interviewing is what happens after pairing?

[dapper sand]

in my mind (network engineer) the coordinator is just the network. eg the transport - layer 2 and 3. The device comms are layers 5 and up and use that network - eg ZHA to the device's software.

just like you can use a cisco switch, and a windows PC and a linux server connected through it

the switch don't care, it just lets them talk.

[cloud swallow]

i do know that zigbee is encrypted, but i don't know whether that is an integration level or coördinator level thing. if the former, then i guess the coördinator forms the foundation of the physical layer, so more like layer 1

[austere patio]

The encryption is on the network level. Every request between devices is encrypted with a randomly-generated network key (unless you copy/pasted a static one off the internet into your config file)

[dapper sand]

what throws me is when devices say X hub is REQUIRED
when actually you just need zigbee

they're dumbing it down for the average consumer and not exposing the more sophisticated possibilities

[tropic depot]

depends... sometimes things are all implemented on mfg clusters

when that is the case it takes custom handling to work w/ the device

[dapper sand]

sure, and discerning the two is difficult

[tropic depot]

a lot of companies do it

[dapper sand]

they don't differentiate most of the time if you actually need to buy their hub.

[tropic depot]

lol what do you expect

they want $$

lol

[dapper sand]

exactly

[tropic depot]

no tech products are marketed w/ truth... look at your field... the way wifi routers are marketed is wild

[cloud swallow]

AIUI, the base zigbee spec is very limited in the types of devices it natively supports, so vendor extensions are common. that requires use of their proprietary hub for it to work as expected. also, they are not targeting a technically inclined audience. this whole server would be completely beyond most of their market.

[austere patio]

You may also never technically "need" to but a lot of devices (cough Tuya) just do not do anything unless someone spends the time reverse engineering them. So while the device will be on your network, it'll be weeks or months before someone adds support for it so that it actually does something.

[tropic depot]

none of the # are truthful

[tropic depot]

only if this was true....

lol

most extensions are vendor lock-in

the spec is fairly broad

[cloud swallow]

happy coincidence!

[dapper sand]

I'm done with buying more hubs though. I've got a yolink one for their long range motion sensors. a blink one, and a switchbot one. no more man, I'm over it.

[cloud swallow]

what i said just now, i am repeating what colleagues of mine who've done a lot of work in this space said (eg one worked for hive). tbf, they haven't done so recently, and it's likely standards have advanced substantially since then. (c.f. matter etc, which sounds like it's still a dog's breakfast)

[dapper sand]

I design and sell wifi enterprise systems (schools, auditoriums), home wifi "routers" kill my soul.

[dapper sand]

yeah zigbee has "just worked" for me so far and matter has been very fiddly to get working on a per device basis.

[cloud swallow]

i imagine that being v6 based does not help matters

nor crappy implementations. i was reading about some matter-related issues recently, but i don't recall the details

[austere patio]

There's a massive difference between creating a device that builds on top of the spec (e.g. a smart outlet with a custom sensor on top) versus dumping all functionality into vendor-specific clusters and calling it a day. The spec does have limitations but there's following the letter of the spec and then there's following the spirit of the spec. Often times, shady manufacturers do the former and not the latter.

[cloud swallow]

indeed. and, from what i read, some eg tuya just do a crap job of their implementations anyway

[dapper sand]

So, this is similar to another thing I do - SIP.
SIP has 19 standard features and in theory any server/PBX that does SIP will support those. However Avaya and Cisco for example have features well beyond those 19 standard ones and have extensions in the SIP signalling to support that.
If you try to use a Cisco phone on an Avaya system you don't get anything outside the SIP standard features on the phone.

You put a yealink phone on Avaya and you'll get dialtone and make/take calls but you won't get BLF's and bridged appearances and custom button labels. etc etc.

when SIP first came out, interoperability was TERRIBLE.
It was a nightmare getting disparate manufacturer's devices working over what should have been a standard. It's taken years for it all to get hashed out and settled down, things work well for the most part now.

thank you for coming to my TED talk

[austere patio]

With SIP I guess the vendors are sort of forced to do interoperability so they can't entirely make it incompatible, right?

[dapper sand]

there were a lot of cases early on with the RFC's saying "should" or "must" or "should not" and vendors doing what they wanted.
taking a "should" and making it a "must" for expected headers for example and not handling exceptions.
lots of edge cases for header formatting, characters, expected responses etc.

it's not that they were trying to be incompatible, there were different interpretations of the RFC's and it took a while for that to get cleared up.

lots of finger pointing back and forth

[austere patio]

Ah, not so much intent but just poorly-worded specs

[dapper sand]

but for example if you want more than a 3-way conference call, you have to go beyond the SIP standard.

at which point the endpoint (phone set) and the PBX both need to understand the extensions and act on them.

so, I guess - circling back - if a sonoff zigbee switch has something implimented that ZHA understands but Zigbee2Mqtt doesn't, it's not a fault of zigbee itself. zigbee is just the transport between the software layers.

or, even deeper, if they've implemented something that only their hub understands

[regal pumice]

Update: seems to be working fabulously, only took a little longer to be picked up during pairing otherwise it gets the job done

[left canyon]

is a reinstallation of zigbee2mqtt and the broker like a clean new installation? my issue is atm, i can pair devices but cant make them visible on the home assistent dashboard or integration view.

[fallen gyro]

Hi, I updated Z2M today and noticed 3 firmware updates from the Settings tab of HA. The notification finds 3 Z2M devices but it has version upgrade to negative 1 ( -1 ) -- current versions are higher.

I got to the Z2M page, check for OTA, it doesn't have any updates available -- its just showing in HA.

I tried to click on skip but it keeps coming back after a reboot.

Is this a false positive update? If it is, anyway to get rid of that firmware update permanently in HA?

[compact oak]

[20:22:21] INFO: Preparing to start...
[20:22:22] INFO: Socat not enabled
[20:22:23] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:30: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2024-01-07.20-22-30' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:30: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.35.1 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:30: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.30.0)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:33: zigbee-herdsman started (resumed)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:33: Coordinator firmware version: '{"meta":{"maintrel":"3 ","majorrel":"6","minorrel":"10","product":8,"revision":"6.10.3.0 build 297"},"type":"EZSP v8"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:33: Currently 2 devices are joined:
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:33: Sensore di Movimento (0xa4c1382820b4c179): ZG-204ZL - TuYa Luminance motion sensor (EndDevice)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:33: 0xa4c138e3ff119cea (0xa4c138e3ff1231cea): TS0203 - TuYa Door sensor (EndDevice)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:33: Zigbee: disabling joining new devices.
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:33: Connecting to MQTT server at 192.168.100.42
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-01-07 20:22:33: MQTT failed to connect, exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:33: Stopping zigbee-herdsman...
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-01-07 20:22:34: Stopped zigbee-herdsman

How do I solve this error?

[keen patrol]

Hi! Anyone ever get Centralite HA-3156105 working under ZHA or did I just waste $19 on eBay? lol.
I'm using Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB and HA 2024.1.2

[pearl flame]

Hey anybody got Ikea LED2005R5 handled by z2m addon ? Addon is reporting weird update from version 65554 to -1.

[austere bridge]

Glad it does! Maybe they've updated it in the meantime.

[austere bridge]

Same behaviour here for these hacked Xiaomi ATC thermometers with Zigbee firmware but only after today's Z2M update

[pearl flame]

Ok thanks "evil forces" scenario excluded, enabling "waitng for a fix" mode.

[violet wave]

@mellow geode any luck with those PR for the ZonnSmart TRV ? 🙂

[astral seal]

It will probably work. Centralite doesn't seem to do anything too funky and out of spec with their Zigbee clusters.

I have the newer "fancier" looking touch panel one, the Centralite Pearl, and it works fine.

[left juniper]

I have a Hue Dimmer Switch. It is paired to the Hue Bridge. How can I unpair it and pair it to my ZigBee controller plugged into HA?

[austere patio]

Works fine. What channel is your network on?

[left juniper]

Oh there's a reset hole in the back, never mind

[keen patrol]

Not sure. I read the default channel for ZHA is supposed to be 15. I have never changed the defaults.

[full anchor]

Having issues with skyconnect multiprotocol. Is there an issue tracker so I can provide logs to help improve it?

[keen patrol]

here's some logs. two attempts at adding a device, second with debug logging enabled. I am not sure how to interpret them.

https://pastebin.com/wBWcmEbz

[warm lynx]

Sorry if this isn’t the right spot…

I’ve noticed some really bad lag between Apple Home->HA with regards to my Zigbee2MQTT lights. On/off mostly works, but brightness is almost non-functional.

Anyone else notice some issues lately?

[carmine hamlet]

do you see the same if you control the lights directly from HA?

[warm lynx]

Nope - HA directly works just fine, my Zigbee remotes also work just fine

[carmine hamlet]

then it seems like your concern is with Homekit, which would be #integrations-archived

[austere patio]

There's no default anymore, it's picked based on your environment. You can see the channel in your integration config page.

[warm lynx]

Thanks!

[keen patrol]

Oh OK I see now. thank you. says channel 15.

[mild dragon]

Hello, I'm having some issues with the skyconnect on my Rpi5, it was working well for a few hours but then my OS crashed when I updated to 11.3. Since then the USB shows up and I have the options to select enable multi protocol but it fails to update firmware both back to Zigbee and to the Multi. I tried flashing it from the website after downloading the correct drivers but it says it failed to flash. The most recent error is "Error: Firmware image was rejected by the device. Ensure this is the correct image for this device."

[dapper sand]

whew I just moved my zigbee to channel 25 with no issues. that moves it over to channel 11 wifi equivalent which I've excluded from my network. maybe it'll be more responsive and stable now.

[ocean cloak]

I got this too. Have you found any info on this?

[austere patio]

Can you post a debug log? The website should give you the option to download one.

[mild dragon]

@austere patio, It's a decently sized log, would you like me to just copy paste here?

[ocean cloak]

• @fallen gyro https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/20658

[fallen gyro]

@ocean cloak thanks for the link .. seems like I was not alone then. I was just skipping the firmware install for now

[ocean cloak]

Only change I see related to updates in the most recent release is this:
https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman-converters/pull/6831

[austere patio]

It would be best to ZIP it and DM it, if you don't mind

[mild dragon]

I'll get it together and send it over, thank you

[woeful drum]

Tried to reset Skyconnect, now I lost my ZHA network and cannot re create. Error,

"To add a Zigbee device, you first need supported hardware and the Zigbee integration set up. If you already have the hardware then you can proceed with the setup of Zigbee."

[austere patio]

Do you have the ZHA integration installed?

[woeful drum]

No, that's when the error pops up

[austere patio]

Are you clicking the "Add Device" button or the "Add Integration" button?

[woeful drum]

Add integration, Occasionally I can continue then I get stuck at Serial Port Setting, keep getting "Failed to connect"

[austere patio]

What did you do to try to reset the SkyConnect? Do you have any other addons or integrations running?

[woeful drum]

I re-installed the silicon labs multiprotocol integration, not actual reset for the Skyconnect dongle

All other integration work fine

[austere patio]

Multiprotocol is an addon. Is the addon running? What do its logs show?

When you set up ZHA, it will have an option to select the multiprotocol addon as the serial port. That's the one you have to use.

[woeful drum]

Addon is running, I did select that one for ZHA

That's where i see "Failed to connect"

[austere patio]

Unplug the SkyConnect, plug it back in, and restart the addon

[woeful drum]

I tried to Toggle on the Update firmware on the Silicion lab integration, that fixed it.

[austere patio]

Was it off?

That should definitely always be on

[woeful drum]

Now I know, thanks for the promt replies

Now I'm gonna try to fix Thread lol

[austere patio]

You should just be able to add the new multiprotocol OTBR to your preferred network by pushing the credentials

[woeful drum]

I did, I think the issue is with Matter onboarding. I have a nanoleaf bulb.

[austere patio]

Ouch. Good luck 😄

Nanoleaf bulbs work about half the time on a good day

[quaint willow]

So since the recent .1 update all of my zigbee Centralite 3326-L motion detectors stopped working (and will alternate between showing up or Unavailable, but never working even when not showing unavailable, they just fire the detection when they come back on line the next time, long after it happened.), so i updated to .2, still not working, so I tried removing one and re adding it, now it says "Interview Complete, Configuring" but it just keeps running through "NWK" hex numbers, and has been for an hour. Any idea what I should try next?

My wall outlet devices still work, just not the motion detectors

[cloud swallow]

any recommendations? so far, i have only tried philips hue RGBW which were ~half price and which, so far, have been pretty good (though i have no frame of reference).

i was going to get some ajax zignito RGBW bulbs (these all being GU10s), but they review poorly on amazon, especially in terms of colour fidelity.

but eventually, i will need to get a whole bunch of white bulbs, and hues will cost too much.

[tepid gorge]

I had a power failure during the night and now when everything is back up and running, 3 of my zigbee lights are missing from the device list in zigbee2mqtt. Can I restore an backup to get them back in or is repairing the only way?

[austere bridge]

If they don't join by themselves when you allow pairing you'll need to reset them probably

[tepid gorge]

restoring a backup doesnt bring the devices back?

[sweet cypress]

Hey guys,
I have a ZZH! stick, CC2652R.
It has a firmware from 2022. There is a new firmware from 2023 now. If i flash the stick with newer firmware, will i have to readd all my zigbee devices in HA? Im using zigbee2mqtt in HA.

[sour shadow]

No, you won't, but you may also not want to update - newer firmware may introduce problems. The Z2M GitHub has some issues about firmware you want to read

(https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/faq/ is worth bookmarking)

[sweet cypress]

Alright, gonna read that first then. Do you know if there is any firmware for the CC2652R that does both zigbeee and thread (matter)?

[sour shadow]

Given that the devs recommend not using the multi-protocol add-on... why would you want to cause yourself pain?

Just buy another stick for that

[sweet cypress]

hehe, yeah. i will buy another stick for thread then. Thanks!

[limber jay]

Hello, I'm trying to create a external convert for zigbee2mqtt. everyting works ok. But somtimes the zigbee device send a value for Temp that i think is referance to unknown. but zigbee2mqtt show this as -327.68°C . Can i do anyting in my .js file to show this as unknown insted for -327.68°C ?

[modest iris]

Can you post your JS file?

[rapid dawn]

@limber jay I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

@modest iris I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[modest iris]

https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman-converters/blob/22c4673533b9380dc4d8abb115c70069e607ee13/src/devices/centralite.ts#L12-L36 here's an example of how it's done for another device

[modest iris]

You'd use fzLocal.temperature in your fromZigbee list instead of fz.temperature

[shy summit]

I have ~30 Zigbee devices and some of them work ok, but for others I often loose the connection. Is that something that usually happens or should the connection be pretty stable even on battery operated devices?

[sour shadow]

Depends on the devices, the routers they're using, how you paired them, and the local RF environment

They should be stable

But Sonoff/Osram devices make for shitty routers, Xiaomi (Aqara/Mijia) need paired in a particular way, and other 2.4 GHz devices can cause interference

[shy summit]

Ok, especially my aqara devices die after some days.

[sour shadow]

Make sure you use the option to pair them via a specific router

[modest iris]

The Z2M docs mention Aqara has some issues with disconnecting: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/WSDCGQ11LM.html#troubleshooting-device-stops-sending-messages-disconnects-from-network

And https://community.hubitat.com/t/xiaomi-aqara-devices-pairing-keeping-them-connected/623 (linked by Z2M docs)

[rapid dawn]

The pinned messages of this channel are:

• "blog.ceard.tech/2019/11/zigbee-and-home-assistant and ..."
• "github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/tree/7398d834eb3a790..."
• "I just set up some addons for doing Firmware updates to TubesZB ..."
• "embeded content"
• "New video from home assistant demonstrating USB zigbee interfere..."
• "If you're setting up Zigbee2MQTT then: 1. Upgrade your CC2652 to..."
• "Bellows - Zigbee Channel Scan pastebin.com/bk1hN0Et"
• "Fixing a corrupted SQLite database isn't something that can easi..."
• "HUSBZB-1 fw update cheatsheet. SSH into your HA machine and then..."
• "github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#backup-and-..."
• "A good write-up of how the Zigbee mesh works: linkdhome...."
• "community.hubitat.com/t/xiaomi-aqara-devices-pairing-ke..."
• "Reddit - homeassistant - How to update your IKEA or Ledevance f..."
• "From github.com/zha-ng/zigpy-znp/ pip install git+https..."
• "For device options, see www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-de..."
• "Zigbee and WiFi coexistence: support.metageek.com/hc/en..."

[sour shadow]

Top pinned message covers many things

[limpid cloud]

LOL, whatever Ikea has done to my lightswitch, can they please also do it to my laptop battery 😉

https://imgur.com/a/H28gDy9

[shy summit]

I also noticed a 200% on a switch this morning.

[ivory sinew]

Problem: When trying to integrate the Sonoff TRVZB thermostat thorugh ZHA, it exposes local temperature calibration as input-number entity. which is great! however, that input number is limited to +2.5 / -2.5 degrees. Any way i could change that? in Z2M the same local calibration entity allows for +7 / -7 degrees and the thermostat has no issue working with those values

[elder surge]

Question: any way to extend network? Looking for general suggestions. Currently running ZHA with skyconnect. Not having issues currently but just thinking about the future.

[ivory sinew]

There are plug-in network extenders on amazon or aliexpress if you have nothing else plugged in. Ikea treadfri lamps work well too, basically any device connected to mains power

[astral seal]

The best way to extend your network is with devices that actually have a function beyond repeating, like most bulbs, plugs, and wall switches that require neutral. Sengled bulbs do not function as routers for whatever reason.
If you want a device that only acts as a router, you can buy a CC26xx based dongle, flash router firmware, and plug it into a USB wall block, or buy one of the Ikea Tradfri repeaters or whatever.

[sour shadow]

Sengled bulbs aren't routers because they know people cut power to them

[limpid cloud]

I've gone the latter route (bought a cc-whatever-dongle with router firmware, one of the Sonoff devices. Benefit of this: You get a really high quality antenna.

[ivory sinew]

Aeotech builds a really nice Zigbee Repeater for around 30€ or so too. Needs no tinkering, just plugging in and pairing.

[astral seal]

I won't lie I have a few Sengled bulbs and the "not a router" thing does have its uses. My kid wanted RGB in her overhead light and it's fine in that application because she will inevitably turn them off at the switch sometimes.

[plain iris]

Hi there, I have an Aqara temp and humidity sensor connected to my SkyConnect zigbee USB Key...

from time to time, the sensor stops sending information to Zigbee2Mqtt

and I need to unbind it and rebind it, until the next time...

any idea on what can it be the problem?

[modest iris]

@plain iris https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/WSDCGQ11LM.html#troubleshooting-device-stops-sending-messages-disconnects-from-network

[celest wolf]

Hi all, I'm looking to get started with home automation. I've been pointed to zigbee by some friends. Do you have recommendations for a zigbee controller, light switches, push buttons, and light bulbs?

[plain iris]

most of the reasons explained in that guide does not apply here

[modest iris]

Have you taken a look at the link at the bottom of that guide? It lists even more reasons that you may be having issues (more exhaustive list of incompatible routers too).

It seems like quite a few people have issues with Aqara devices dropping off, there was someone asking about it an hour or two ago.

[plain iris]

I think that the easyer thing is to trash that sensor and buy something else

[modest iris]

Probably 😁

Or wait for the new model of Aqara sensors (12LM) which adhere to Zigbee 3.0

[elder surge]

so the sonoff can be programmed to act as a repeater?

[elder surge]

if youre going to trash it, use my trash can 👻

[elder surge]

where does one go to follow that news?

[modest iris]

They're also called "T1" and technically released, but good luck buying them. I'm not sure of anywhere you can get them right now.

And I don't know anywhere you can follow the news either sadly

I contacted Xiaomi on AliExpress but they said they don't have any T1 models in stock.

[elder surge]

is aliexpress where you have been getting them from?

[modest iris]

It's where I usually buy my Aqara stuff as it's much cheaper than Amazon

e.g. on Amazon it's $25 for one aqara temp sensor. I got an 8-pack from AliExpress for $75

[elder surge]

are they pretty accurate? ive been using switchbot bluetooth sensors around the house

[modest iris]

Hard to tell to be honest! The ones I installed today in 3 rooms seem to agree with each other pretty good - all within 0.1 degree of one another.

I need to get a "known good" temperature sensor and compare it over time really to see how well they're calibrated

[elder surge]

https://www.aqara.com/us/product/temperature-humidity-sensor/ thats just these right?

[modest iris]

Yep, those are the ones. They're a bit of a pain to pair (you keep having to reset them until they pair usually) and do have some compatibility issues (as you've seen above), but I've not had any issues with them personally.

[elder surge]

i see many sellers on there. did you buy from the "Aqara Global Store" one or somewhere else?

or maybe link to the one you used if you dont mind

[fickle otter]

hey whats up, i just got my HomeAssistant SkyConnect and it does show up in the integrations tab and if i try to add it it just fails.
the same if i add it manually (just says Failed to Connect). it does show up in my settings under hardware with the port /dev/ttyUSB0 and its also shown in ZHA. I have found a lot of forum posts on it but no solution to it. some say try installing silicon labs but then the ZHA devs wrote i don't need it etc.
i use a win11 system with virtualbox (for now, until HA is stable on RPi5) and i added the usb to the virtual machine.
im a pretty newbie so if you need some logs, i can provide them to u, if you tell me how to access them / create them (:
thx!

[modest iris]

I got mine from MIJIA-GLOBAL Store: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000713904483.html

[modest iris]

Settings -> System -> Logs -> Download Full Log and upload it to a pastebin

[rapid dawn]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language, and consider picking a longer expiry)
• http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

[elder surge]

thanks

[fickle otter]

https://dpaste.org/CKBe3 thats all i found there

[modest iris]

How long ago did you try setting up SkyConnect? Those logs only start at 18:21

I assume because of all the output from bellows.uart

[fickle otter]

before i made the logs

[modest iris]

Can you try it again right now and then generate the log again?

[fickle otter]

sure

i tried it again and the logs look the same again

do i need to select homeassistant core or supervisor or something else in the logs menu?

[modest iris]

It should be core if it's the ZHA integration you're setting up

[fickle otter]

alright well i can upload it again but its again just the bellows.uart errors and nothing when i created the ZHA

supervisor logs say its plugged in too:
24-01-08 18:59:35 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting add hardware /dev/ttyUSB1 - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Nabu_Casa_SkyConnect_v1.0_cccf9b01bdd8ed11a8e1736162c613ac-if00-port0

[modest iris]

So you just get "Failed to connect" in HA?

[fickle otter]

yes

[modest iris]

https://github.com/NabuCasa/silabs-firmware/wiki/Flash-Silicon-Labs-radio-firmware-manually you could try reflashing the firmware, not sure what else to suggest.