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dusk python
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I need the adaptive color temp lighting

grim igloo
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well it isnt much more to go for white + ambiance

dusk python
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True

grim igloo
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i am just not a fan of their rgbw bulbs pricing comparatively

dusk python
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They just have better color and durability than most

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Hue is certainly a brand you buy for nearly life it seems

grim igloo
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i have one hue bulb going out now

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it just flickers regardless of brightness

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prob 3-4 years old

dusk python
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Yeah my LIFX bulbs literally started splitting their sides, the only ones left are the very low duty ones

mellow geode
dusk python
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Lol why not

mellow geode
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More of a joke, but some Hue White models seem to have a slightly worse quality than others

grim igloo
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Ah

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It’s just white not ambiance too

dusk python
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I’m sure they were going for cheapest possible design to get to a price point

grim igloo
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It’s the older round style

dusk python
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Those hue white bulbs seem cheap af compared to color lol

grim igloo
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Not sultan or whatever

dusk python
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I will say I entirely regret buying any brand of motion sensor that isn't hue

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$40 seems crazy but they last a zillion times longer, have better and more reliable sensor output, include lux values, and take standard batteries

ashen coral
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I threw it out of the network to try saving it. I'll try to remember if I add it back in.
It's old, though. one of the first I bought.

grim igloo
dusk python
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Does it do Lux?

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Thats been the seperating feature from all the rest it seems

grim igloo
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nope

dusk python
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looks at crappy z-wave sensor with made up light intensity values

grim igloo
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wait yes it does

dusk python
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Like real lux?

grim igloo
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what is real lux

dusk python
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Some sensors just kinda make up numbers or values

grim igloo
dusk python
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instead of having a calibrated lux value

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Like dark should be 0lx and indoor lighting can range from like 200-800lx+ and daylight in the thousands

grim igloo
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they also go down to 5 second retrigger value versus the 30 second limit of hue motion sensors

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i'm tempted to replace my hue stairs sensor with one

dusk python
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hue has a configuration setting I thought

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Or is there a fixed lower bound it won't go below

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Do you really need a twitchier stair light than 30s anyways?

grim igloo
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Measured illuminance in lux
1919lx``` <-- light off

```Illuminance (lux)
Measured illuminance in lux
9lx``` <-- light on
grim igloo
dusk python
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Any faster and you're just asking to nuke the batteries

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If you want realtime motion that's where mmwave seems to be the jam anyways

grim igloo
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they're still paired with a PIR for initial detection speed

dusk python
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Just a battery PiR benefits greatly from being able to go to deep sleep after a trigger

grim igloo
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i have two aqara fp1 i've played around with the zones quite a bit

dusk python
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Are you just trying to keep your stairs on for the bare minimum amount of time?

grim igloo
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Not necessarily it’s set to 30 seconds now

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But it won’t turn off in 30 seconds if motion is retriggered within that window with the lower retrigger time

mellow geode
grim igloo
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No shit

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I didn’t know it went that low

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Still these can go down to 5 which is nice

dusk python
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You must love buying batteries lol

grim igloo
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I’m curious to see if battery is anywhere near as good as hue

mellow geode
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the battery holder isn’t lol

dusk python
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You should run 2 side by side for science lol

grim igloo
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I’m doing that in my bathroom now lol

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But with the aqara p1 vs a zooz multisensor

dusk python
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I would imagine you get a fixed number of events out of a set of batteries, barring changes in voltage due to battery temp

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I'm sure someone has tested it lol

strong mango
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Need some help still with Z2m. The interface won't open. Also seem to have issues with settings not working. Example; herd an is turned off yet the logs still show herdsman. The logs also won't reset. There are inconsistencies between the add-on config. Yaml and the one I see using through file editor. Any changes made in Z2m add-on config are not reflected in ha.
It's almost like ha isn't seeing the add-on. Idk I am totally lost with this

sour shadow
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The add-on behaves strangely with the way it handles the config

strong mango
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Yes

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I can not get the interface to open

sour shadow
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Lots of people have commented on it, sadly it makes no sense to me and I don't touch it...

Do check that the config has frontend: settings enabled

strong mango
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Yes it does

sour shadow
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And the Z2M log mentions starting the frontend?

strong mango
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I did a hardware change from pi to pc. The pi works perfectly fine

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That's the other issue. Can't turn off herdsman or refresh the logs

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Herdsman shows as being off yet the logs reflect otherwise

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I also tried installing a previous known working back up. Still no joy. Oh and all my devices do work, so Z2m is running

covert matrix
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I just updated my z2m from 1.27.2-1 to 1.33.2-1 and all the lights are unavailable , it seems that auto discovery is RIP, any idea if there were breaking changes related to that ?

sour shadow
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What version of HA?

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Somewhere in the 1.3x series you had to be on at least 2023.8 or 2023.9 from memory

covert matrix
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2022.9.0

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well then i guess potentially this was my issue , as i didn't upgrade ha , just z2m

sour shadow
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🤣

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Only a year and change of HA breaking changes to read up on

covert matrix
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untill i move i just won't upgrade anything , after that ill just start clean as most of my custom ui will rip

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btw what could happen that i have 2 similar device *TS0505B - >RGB+CCT Zigbee LED Controller and i had one working for like a year and i added the second unit today and it didn't want to support it

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i had to create a custom converter , while the old device works flawlessly

sour shadow
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Tuya... not all identical devices are actually identical

covert matrix
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should be moes but i think they are whitelabeled

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under tuya

sour shadow
covert matrix
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yeah saw this on my logs , before i restored back to 1.27

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10xx

ashen coral
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Read result of 'genBasic': {"zclVersion":3,"swBuildId":"2.3.095"}

mellow geode
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Thanks! Yeah, I’ve also had issues with those IKEA 2.3.xx versions with ZclVersion=3 taking other lights offline.
Newer IKEA lights are based on a newer EZSP version (ZCL 8) and do not seem to exhibit those issues. They didn’t upgrade old Gen1/Gen2 lights though

hollow escarp
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@sour shadow @dusk python I've spent quite a while painstakingly repairing everything, recreating the groups etc. Unfortunately this error state has already happened twice since I finished doing that. My gut feeling is that maybe it's something to do with these Innr GU10 bulbs I have, or to do with Zigbee Groups, or both, but I'm really out of things to try now. Any ideas???

dusk python
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Like it started happening after those bulbs rejoined?

hollow escarp
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No, the bulbs worked fine for a little while, but after an hour or so they had their first crash. It almost always seems to happen after a command to one of those groups is triggered, not always though. But I use Adaptive Lighting so that may also be sending them commands that account for the other times

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I mean over the last few months of this happening and trying to work out when and why

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Nothing concrete, just a few clues: only those bulbs flash. Of course, it might be that only the Innr ones respond in that way to the whole network being unresponsive. The addon fails to start up when this state occurs and no devices work at all, so whatever causes the issue, the effect is definitely network-wide. It seems to happen when I'm sending a command or command to those groups. Although I haven't spent much time with the groups removed as a test (because handling so many downlights without groups is horrid and they're not synchronised etc), I don't think this crash has ever occurred without the groups set up

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My first thought was power supply, then interference, but I've done everything to address those now (I think? If there's anything else possible, let me know!), but now I'm back here

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Oh another slight clue, when this state happens, it's a pain to get out of, just resetting home assistant or the add on or the co-ordinator or any combination of these doesn't always do it. But I've found lately that power cycling (using light switches) certain groups of these bulbs seems to make a successful reset more likely

dusk python
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How many devices total do you have?

mighty river
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Para hablar español donde se hace?

sour shadow
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English please @mighty river

ripe osprey
dusk python
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Yeah that's odd actually

hollow escarp
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@dusk python there's some more info in this message from the weekend, and the one after it. ~75 devices, of which 25 are these Innr RS 227 T

rapid dawnBOT
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@hollow escarp I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
dusk python
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With that many devices have you ever considered running two networks on different channels?

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If I had to guess the network size might be a source of trouble, I know some controllers can’t do that large for sure

hollow escarp
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It's not that big a network, is it? Like it's not small, but not huge. Both of the coordinators I have used were CC2652 based, the new one (the UZG-01) claims to be able to handle a 300-device network. I can try a second network, I suppose, it just seems like a lot more work, with no guarantee it will help

dusk python
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Maybe it's not the controller but one of the devices that ends up behaving in some buggy way when too many devices are talking?

hollow escarp
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That's what I think, yeah. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot that? It could be an individual device but I would have expected something more identifiable as a trigger. If it's a model of device, and especially if it's the Innr RS 227T, then I'm screwed

dusk python
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You said it seemed related to groups?

hollow escarp
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Hm, well. Again, that's just a hunch, it's hard to pinpoint why I believe that. My downlights are in groups in a few places, as I guess downlights usually are. e.g. the bathroom has four downlights, all the same Innr model. I put them in groups in Z2M and that works nicely, but something makes me wonder if it isn't the issue

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I used to have some devices in more than one group (e.g. a group called kitchen/cooker_hood, one called kitchen/ceiling_spots, and those devices also in a wider group called kitchen/all_lights), which again worked well, but occasionally some lights wouldn't behave right or wouldn't take to a second group

dusk python
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I don't use zigbee groups myself, I just call the area the devices are in personally

hollow escarp
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I would massively prefer to use zigbee groups, when I use HA groups, lights don't turn on at the same time, and it kinda detracts from the nice effect of lights fading smoothly up as you walk into the kitchen if they all turn on half a second apart

fading briar
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I have 2 Aqara Temp & Humidity sensors that seem to have died. I've replaced batteries, pushed the reset button, held down the reset button and still HA says they're unavailable. One was working for about 5 or 6 months, the other for 5 or 6 weeks.
Before removing batteries and applying percussive maintenance, is there anything else I might try to bring them back to life?

sour shadow
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When you push the button does the little blue light come on?

fading briar
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Yes it does. Meant to mention that.

hollow escarp
sour shadow
fading briar
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Apparently, I failed to have HA in pairing mode when I attempted to reset it. 🤦‍♂️

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This is why I asked before giving them the smack down...

dusk python
austere patio
fading briar
hollow escarp
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Interesting @austere patio can you clarify? Are you suggesting radio traffic from sending messages to each individual device is actually less than just addressing the group?

austere patio
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Usually yes

hollow escarp
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Really

dusk python
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makes sense, broadcasts are typically a shotgun approach that causes performance issues on tcp/ip networks

hollow escarp
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Yeah but I though zigbee networks, being mesh, already echo/repeat messages that aren't for them, they just don't react to them?

dusk python
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I think individual messages take least-cost path

tiny timber
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Anyone got any ideas on this #zigbee-archived message ? Do these devices have trouble on Skyconnect? Didn't have as many issues on Conbee II. This is what the 2.4GHz channels look like in the worst part of my house.

hollow escarp
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I would have expected (not an expert, clearly) that all routers echo all messages they receive, and only react to ones that were addressed to them. Therefore, a message to turn on four lights in a group is a single message, echoed by every device, while a message to turn on four individual lights is four messages, each echoed by every device

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That makes sense @dusk python

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I will try using HA groups again. I haven't used them tons, but when I have, I've found there is a noticable time difference between each one turning on

dusk python
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I'm a fan of areas myself, seems more logical instead of trying to remember to update the group helper

hollow escarp
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Yeah, it's just because in zigbee groups, mutliple downlights truly act like one light, they happen at exactly the same time

austere patio
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Make sure you have no nearby 2.4GHz interference by moving your coordinator onto a USB extension cable, away from SSDs, USB 3.0 ports, Bluetooth, Wifi, and so on. I'm able to easily toggle 50+ devices in less than half a second without using Zigbee groups.

hollow escarp
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Yeah I've done all that, I'll hunt out the intro message that had all the background

dusk python
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Yeah if zigbee is anything like wifi, broadcast always happens at the slowest device rate lol

hollow escarp
austere patio
tiny timber
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Oh wow, so detailed! Thank you very much! Guessing the firmware of the Conbee didn't have this requirement, which is why they didn't drop off/stay off? What about the IKEA one? Similar story?

austere patio
tiny timber
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I do still have a Hue hub for a few sets of lights (mostly for Entertainment Zones), but it's on 25. Will investigate how to do an energy scan. TYVM again! All my sensors are super old anyway (6+ years). Probably due to replace some. What's the recommended PIR these days for compatibility?

dusk python
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I love the hue sensors, they're rock solid and take regular batteries

tiny timber
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Well, the SML001 are very obviously NOT rock solid 😛

dusk python
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DiyHue supports it anyways

tiny timber
austere patio
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You just need to disable it

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Or temporarily enable ZHA and download diagnostics for the integration, it'll be in there too

tiny timber
austere patio
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Do you have any nearby Zigbee routers?

tiny timber
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Not super close. Got a Hue light quite close, but it's on the Hue hub (channel 25).

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Closest is around 5-6m away.

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I do have a subwoofer quite close. Electrical interference from that?

austere patio
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Try shutting it off!

dusk python
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Could that 15 be wired devices trying to find the base station?

tiny timber
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I tried a whole bunch of stuff. Unplugged any close repeaters, turned off the subwoofer, turned off the entire entertainment unit, even added a much longer USB3 extension cable rather than the included SkyConnect extension. Nothing helped on 15. Only thing I didn't do was turn off the router, which would have obviously meant I couldn't see the results of that 😛

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So is my best option to move to channel 11 then despite it not being a side band?

tiny timber
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Damn it. The repeaters all migrated fine to 11, but I can't get any of the contact sensors to re-pair. Do Aqara devices not work on 11? I can't get one of the IKEA motion sensors to re-pair either (the same one that was causing issues before).

dusk python
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aqara can be super easy to pair or maddiningly difficult

tiny timber
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Anyone know of a good, thorough tutorial on how to do OTA using ZHA? I've never updated the firmware on anything connected. I honestly kinda assumed it was being handled automatically 😆

dusk python
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I know it's built into z2m but that's no help to you lol

molten linden
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The index.json will also have links to fw hosted elsewhere like hue for example.

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Better OTA support is on the roadmap for ZHA.

mellow geode
tiny timber
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I see that Sonoff has OTA auto-update capabilities and have both PIR and contact sensors. How are they in terms of connection reliability with ZHA/SkyConnect? Might be time to try palm off my random assortment of IKEA/Hue/Aqara sensors and go all-in on a single brand.

mellow geode
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Your random assortment is probably better than Sonoff sensors

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At least the Sonoff motion sensors I have don't even provide an Ota cluster. The sensors themselves are also really bad. I'm mostly replacing them with Aqara P1 or Hue sensors. (Although I've had to exchange multiple Aqara P1 sensors, as some older revisions seem to have range issues)

tiny timber
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Damn it! Are there any manufacturers that makes them all well with reliable radios/receivers that don't have issues pairing? Having a hell of a time getting the Aqara contacts back on the network, and the SML001s are pretty old/unreliable.

mellow geode
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SML003 (and SML004) are Silicon Labs-based and are way better in terms of connectivity.

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Aqara also has E1/T1 contact sensors that are Zigbee 3.0.
The (older/global) Zigbee 1.2 Aqara sensors should also be fine. What exact issue do you have with them?

tiny timber
# mellow geode Aqara also has E1/T1 contact sensors that are Zigbee 3.0. The (older/global) Zig...

I just had to change my entire network over to a new channel due to a new neighbour blasting across multiple channels. Decided to switch to SkyConnect from Conbee II at the same time. Initially I chose a channel that had MAD interference in energy scan (despite WiFi scanning showing it being available). Now I've moved to a less noisy channel and am having trouble getting my battery sensors to reconnect. All my routers migrated no problem, just the sensors that are being a pain. And yes, I have older everything. Haven't gotten new sensors in 6-8 years.

mellow geode
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So they just don't show up in the pairing UI when they're reset?

tiny timber
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Maybe 1:5 attempts they will connect.

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Have tried just adding normally, and adding via the closest repeater.

mellow geode
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Did you use ZHA migration for the Conbee to SkyConnect switch?

tiny timber
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Yep, Migrate Radio

mellow geode
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Do other devices pair correctly when only allowing joins via a router? (not the coordinator itself)

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Another thing, did you try new batteries in the Aqara sensors?

tiny timber
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Yeah, no issues with the SML001 joining via a specific router.

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Battery was 77% when it last reported (2 hours ago). Really don't think the reading would be THAT off.

mellow geode
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So it's already paired to the network and the sensor just stops reporting sometimes?

tiny timber
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No, it was paired fine, then I had to change channels and the battery end devices are old enough that they don't take that gracefully, so I need to re-pair it.

mellow geode
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Okay. Still try new batteries then. The pairing process uses way more power and the battery voltage might drop under useable levels then.

flat crown
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Is this the right group to find about devices that support zigbee?

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I am looking for a doorlock and an indoor camera that supports zigbee

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Any suggestions? 😊

tiny timber
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Lock, sure. Camera... not what ZigBee is for.

sour shadow
tiny timber
# tiny timber Maybe 1:5 attempts they will connect.

Reporting back on this: FOUND A TRICK! Take the battery out for 10 secs, then put it back in and pair. Every sensor found almost instantly then, first try. Not sure if the Aqara sensors are doing something weird when you reset them normally, but this worked for 7+ sensors that were giving me grief.

tardy agate
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Hi,
I have bought some Sonoff TRV (TRVZB) and I would like to use the temperature calibration on the device. Via manage Zigbee devices I am able to set the variable manually but the variable is not shown in developer Tools. How do I add this variable to the device? Do I need a custom quirk? If yes are there any templates how to write such a quirk?

shrewd crypt
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I'm looking for a door sensor that is BLACK. Wife doesn't want me to put a white one on our black sliding door. Could I safely spray paint/airbrush one of my Aqara sensors?

sour shadow
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Yes, you can

shrewd crypt
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Sick

sour shadow
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Pop it off the base first, so you don't paint it shut

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And mask the button and the LED

shrewd crypt
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Awesome thank you for the tips

grim igloo
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now there are two of them!

shrewd crypt
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Black door sensors?

grim igloo
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tinks

shrewd crypt
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My name came from my first character in the board game Gloomhaven. Not a love of wee wee.

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He was technically a Tinkerer so none of this checks out. Bye.

grim igloo
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lol

hollow escarp
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@dusk python @austere patio Just to let you know, removing all the zigbee groups seems to have made the network far more stable. It's too early to say for sure, but it was so unstable before that it was happening constantly, so it definitely seems to have improved it, it's been perfect so far. Might be a good one to add to any guidance/your mental checklist of things that cause issues! Zigbee groups nuke the network with traffic

dusk python
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Maybe once you went over some threshold of device count?

dusk python
hollow escarp
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At the moment, it's perfect. Really fast and responsive. I think my previous experiments with HA groups gave disappointing laggy results because the network was struggling with the traffic from zigbee groups maybe? Like I say, I don't want to celebrate too early, but this has been a real problem for months so it's very promising

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Perhaps because I have a fair number of routers it's more susceptible, yes, but it's not like I'm really at the extreme end of network size

dusk python
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Yeah I’ve never seen much lag with direct zigbee control myself to where I wanted to try groups

hollow escarp
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I think part of the problem is that when I first came to set this network up and googled for advice, the threads I found were fairly split, with the slightly more common opinion seeming to be that using Zigbee groups was better, as it would be slicker and, if anything, lower-traffic, when apparently the opposite is true

dusk python
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I still use broadcasts on my z-wave network, but that's a single message to change state on 18 inovelli switches instead of sending 18 individual messages

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Z-wave has slower max message rate if I'm not mistaken

steep thistle
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Can anyone offer help on getting Zigbee2MQTT running? I'm running HASSOS and have the broker installed, as well as zigbee2mqtt, and I've put the right path in. But it's failing.

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Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-11-22 11:21:27: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-11-22 11:21:27: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-11-22 11:21:27: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-11-22 11:21:27: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:103:27)
at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29)
at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:60:27)
at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:101:27)
at start (/app/index.js:107:5)

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I dont have the zigbee service running

sour shadow
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What adapter?

fair idol
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Hi, I am having a problem with HA+MQTT+Zigbee2Mqtt
Just installed a pair of Bosh Radiator Thermostat 2s and integrated them with HA using zigbee2mqtt. Everything worked fine, but the MQTT Discovery does not create a climate entities for the devices (other things that the devices expose are visible as entities). I can see the climate entity discovery messages in the z2m logs, but it is nowhere to be found in the HA UI
Could someone lend me some help with that? I ran out of ideas

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If this is not the right channel for that, please direct me to a more appropriate channel, I will remove this msg and post it there instead

sour shadow
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This is the right channel

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What's in the Home Assistant log file?

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Also, what versions of HA and Z2M?

fair idol
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Home Assistant 2023.1.7
Not sure how to check z2m version

sour shadow
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in the Z2M UI

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I bet you made the mistake of updating Z2M to 1.33 or later

fair idol
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I just installed it yesterday, so it is probbably the latest version available

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Just noticed this in HA logs

rapid dawnBOT
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@fair idol I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
fair idol
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Zigbee2mqtt version: 1.33.2 commit: 9996c93

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So you say I should try to downgrade z2m below 1.33?

sour shadow
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Well, update HA

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You're 10 months behind in updates

fair idol
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Okay, will do

fair idol
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Okay, now it works, thank you very much, I forgot about the updates

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Other things broke after the update but I think I'll manage them on my own

rapid dawnBOT
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@merry roost I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
merry roost
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Hm well, now it truncated everything into a file. Will post again.

rapid dawnBOT
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@merry roost I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
burnt stratus
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Does anyone know how to check if a zigbee device supports OTA updates? I'm using zigbee2mqtt, but none of my devices show up in the OTA section. Does this mean none of my devices support OTA? If so, is there another way to update them?

sour shadow
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That means that either they don't support it, or Z2M doesn't support it for them

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OTA updates for Zigbee is always a roll of the dice. Sometimes that can break devices for ZHA/Z2M

burnt stratus
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I see! Well, everything works fine now, so it's not like I absolutely need to update them, but it would have been nice to have the option.

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Thanks for the info!

sour shadow
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Just ask people who upgraded the firmware of their Tradfri remote how well that worked out for them 😉

burnt stratus
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Well then I guess I'll go with the tried and true wisdom of "if aint broke, don't fix it" and leave OTA aside for now 😅

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thanks again for the quick help!

merry roost
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Well, it worked for me now by using ExtraPutty and going into bootloader mode by pressing reset and boot

winter cove
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I have a new wall switch that is not supported by Zigbee2MQTT. I'm trying to write in support for this, and following the guide i started out with the plug / switch example, and it work right away, but my switch have to channels, and the example only turns channel 1 of and on. Any tips?

shadow valley
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i'm struggling to figure out the binding of a remote control directly to a philips hue lamp

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i'm getting dimming to work, but not on and off

left magnet
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I am back working on my Zigbee network with ZHA, raspberry Pi4 and currently a raspbee2... and I received my new Sonoff USB coordinator. Can I plug in the Sonoff on the Raspberry Pi4 while leaving the raspbee2 installed, or shall I first remove the Raspbee? Can ZHA cope with both coordinators?

austere patio
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ZHA can use only a single coordinator at a time. Plug in the new coordinator and use the radio migration feature in ZHA to migrate your network. Make sure your Raspbee is running the latest firmware.

worldly estuary
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Anyone that has an idea why I keep having issues with the zigbee integration not loading properly?

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Error setting up entry ConBee II - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2654136-if00, s/n: DE2654136 - dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik GmbH - 1CF1:0030 for zha
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy_deconz/api.py", line 313, in _command
return await fut
^^^^^^^^^
asyncio.exceptions.CancelledError

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...
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy_deconz/api.py", line 430, in read_parameter
r = await self._command(Command.read_parameter, 1 + len(data), param, data)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy_deconz/api.py", line 312, in _command
async with asyncio_timeout(COMMAND_TIMEOUT):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/asyncio/timeouts.py", line 111, in aexit
raise TimeoutError from exc_val
TimeoutError

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also, for some weird reason, while I can control my lights, neither deconz nor Phoscon seems to want to connect to the device

sour shadow
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Ummm.... that error is from ZHA, and you're using deCONZ

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You can only use one Zigbee stack with any coordinator

worldly estuary
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I've got no clue... enabled the deconz addon probably a year ago, never thought of it.
at the same time I just started using the integration

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guess zha is the integration stuff then???

sour shadow
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No

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They're completely separate Zigbee stacks

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Pick one, or the other

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To have both enabled you need two coordinators, one for each

worldly estuary
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I have an IKEA hub too

sour shadow
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Well... that's not relevant to ZHA or deCONZ 😉

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(not unless you've hacked it into a coordinator for ZHA)

worldly estuary
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but where do I see the zha stuff, cause I have no idea where I see what in use then

sour shadow
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Well... you have to work out which one of ZHA or deCONZ you connected your devices to and remove the other one

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Then you'll probably have to re-pair many things as you broke it by having both enabled

worldly estuary
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well I can't even find anything relating to the zha except in the log - and I don't know how to find that information

sour shadow
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Then go to your integrations page, look for dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik GmbH and remove that

worldly estuary
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but according to the device info for my coordinator: deCONZ = dresden elektronik deCONZ protocol: ConBee I/II, RaspBee I/II
by ZHA

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it's probably zha

sour shadow
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Then remove deCONZ/Phoscon

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Either way, one has to go so you can un-fuck things

carmine hamlet
sour shadow
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(also, OT, there's another film/series/whatever in the works)

worldly estuary
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funny part is, looking at my integrations page, enabling disabled/hidden devices, deconz is nowhere to be found.
must be due to the addon then, so I've uninstalled the addon

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rebooting the system just to check if the issue is gone

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uh, a new highlander?

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too bad only the first was worth it

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kinda defeats the plot when the make several, after there was only one! And sudenly they were more again!

sour shadow
worldly estuary
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NICE... now my zigbee stuff works again - now I just wonder why on earth it has been working at all the past year!

carmine hamlet
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I had to watch the original several times in college to finally follow the plot because I was drunk each time and it's complicated 🙂

worldly estuary
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I have a remote that should support single, double and long press event - but I can only see single presses, any ideas? Or am I off to node-red in order to come up with a strategem?

mellow geode
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What remote model is it? Some Aqara models need to have an attribute changed for example

worldly estuary
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it's an Aqara, double rocker H1

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so how do I find out, and how do I even set an attribute on it?

mellow geode
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Are you using ZHA? If so, then probably using the clusters UI on the device page (three dots -> manage Zigbee device -> select opple_cluster and set an attribute called click_mode(?) to another value (1 or 2?))

worldly estuary
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yep, ZHA

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opple_cluster? not there

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Think it could be the MultistateInputCluster ?

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hmmm, click_mode is only in AqaraRemoteManuSpecificCluster, but it fails if I try to write to it

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it could be set to "multiclick", but unfortunately it didn't change anything

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nah turns out, it couldn't - it just looked that way as 5 quick presses triggers the device to send an 'attribuet update event', which lights up the write button in green with a checkmark

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looked in the logs, seems I'm hit with the timeout exception when trying to write the attributes

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so now I'm back to the exception that ends in:

  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy/zcl/__init__.py", line 377, in request
    return await self._endpoint.request(
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy/endpoint.py", line 253, in request
    return await self.device.request(
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy/device.py", line 313, in request
    async with asyncio_timeout(timeout):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/asyncio/timeouts.py", line 111, in __aexit__
    raise TimeoutError from exc_val
TimeoutError
mellow geode
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So, you probably want to set click_mode to 2.

untold zephyr
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Does anybody have a ZHA quirk or code snippet that directly sends commands to another endpoint? I have a Fan Controller I'm trying to build a quirk for, but I can't find any examples of sending a ZHA command from the custom cluster to another endpoint (there are 3 for low/medium/high speed)

mellow geode
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Although misusing 10% speed as "auto mode" for the STARKVIND seems wrong.

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Okay, maybe rather look at the Kof example below. There's not that much custom implementation in ZHA for this though. Likely won't help with your issue.

mellow geode
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If so, you should be able to define the custom commands you need on the custom cluster. Then, intercept the attribute writes on the default fan cluster (you can probably make it a LocalDataCluster) and call the commands on the custom cluster from there.
The correct status also needs to be returned to write attributes then.

The fan modes can be defined in _CONSTANT_ATTRIBUTES.

untold zephyr
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if an attribute write can achieve it

mellow geode
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Is there some GitHub issue or other work you can link here?

untold zephyr
mellow geode
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Okay, so there are four endpoints which each have an OnOff cluster. They need to get an on() or off() command.
(who thought this was a good idea for controlling a fan lol) (One of the endpoints seems to be for a button light)

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Did you pair the device with ZHA?

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It shows up as four switch entities, right?

untold zephyr
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Yup, mfg was being damn lazy. Yes, 4 light switches

mellow geode
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It should be possible by providing a Fan + LocalDataCluster cluster class which "intercepts" attributes writes to the fan_mode attribute and then executes the appropriate on()/off() command on the other endpoint's OnOff clusters.
Off might be a bit more difficult if we don't want to send a command to all clusters. (Or maybe you can just send off() to any OnOff cluster and it still turns off all anyway?)
The fan modes also need to be defined in _CONSTANT_ATTRIBUTES.

hollow sorrel
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Hey everyone! My Zigbee network with Conbee 2 and ZHA isn't performing as well as it should and I'd like to change the channel from 15 to 25. The docs say I need to factory reset the stick and repair everything. My questions are:

  • if for some reason things don't go to plan will I be able to use the JSON file downloaded from "Download backup" in ZHA to get everything back how it was?
  • will my automations referencing the ZigBee devices and entities still work or will I need to go through and update them all?
  • if I reset the stick will I have to reapply the latest firmware update? How actually do I reset the Conbee?
left magnet
austere patio
hollow sorrel
hollow sorrel
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I've changed the channel in the ZHA ui and it says 25, but how can I confirm that the devices have actually changed channel?

sour shadow
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Wait for them to check in - those that migrated will still work (so sensors will update values, switches will be able to be controlled, etc)

hollow sorrel
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It seemed that I changed the channel and after about 30 seconds everything came back up and everything was working.

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It happened so quickly that I worry that nothing actually changed

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Strangely when I look at my devices there are lots, and my visualisation tab has a big spiders web of devices and links, but when I do Download backup I get a tiny little JSON file with no devices in it.

void sandal
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I dont know if this is the right place to ask, but I give it a shot. I have several Aquara wall switches, and I wonder if it is possible for the switch to turn on if it has been without power. Power on state, function? I am using the ZHA - integration.

spark hare
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Hello, I have the following error, Failed to send request: Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>

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I belive related to ZHA, might be due to a device out of range? I typically get up to 3 external lights which every now and then lose connection, but every now and then are back... I have a router with 2.4 in channel 13, and 5GHz in channel 108, my conbee 2 is in a USB extender using channel 25 being not far from my router. the lights which are going on and off are far from my main router. Not far from them I have an old router used as AP with a 2.4 in channel 13 as well. But it does not make a difference whether the AP is on or off so I believe that is not making an interference.

sour shadow
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Check the pinned image - WiFi 13 and Zigbee 25 are a bad pairing

spark hare
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thanks

sour shadow
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Well, the WiFi signal is stomping your Zigbee, and signal strength matters

spark hare
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yes although I have several zigbee routers in between, I will give it a day or 2 to see if the situation improves and that alert message disappear thanks!

left magnet
worthy holly
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Hello I got an Aqara DJT11LM, that properly connected to the ZHA network, how do I read the X,Y,Z aatributes. I can see the attributes in Developer Tools -> Events. Thanks

I truly have searched but I cannot find a way of creating a template.

carmine hamlet
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It's a helper

worthy holly
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@carmine hamlet is this answer for my question? Thanks

carmine hamlet
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yes

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you said:

I truly have searched but I cannot find a way of creating a template.

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it's right there

worthy holly
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I cannot find what attributes use for the Aqara

carmine hamlet
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what does this mean?

I can see the attributes in Developer Tools -> Events

worthy holly
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I go to Developer Tools -> Events and start listening ZHA events and get things like

    rawValueX: 918
    rawValueY: 65456
    rawValueZ: 65521
    X: 1
    "Y": 45
    Z: 45```
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For the Aqara, but I cannot understand how I would use state_attr to read them

carmine hamlet
worthy holly
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When I connected the Aqara it gave me state, battery, lqi, rssi, etc and I can use those without issues.

But for these other values, like XYZ, I need to do it manually, but I cnanot what attributes names to use state_attr

carmine hamlet
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seems relevant

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it doesn't look like they're attributes at all

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it's an event, as you've discovered

worthy holly
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So it wouldn't show up in a template?

carmine hamlet
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the second to last past at the link I posted uses a template

worthy holly
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And this templates would go in configuration.yaml?

carmine hamlet
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there are event entities now, so maybe you can find the values you want in one of those

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yes

worthy holly
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Thank you. I appreciate your help. Yesterday I found the link you shared, but didn't understand it, and forgot about. WIll try again

warped gazelle
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Hello, I have used HA (os) for about some months now, but never used Zigbee devices. Yesterday, I installed the Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dognle - E, flashed with RCP firmware to support also Matter/Thread. All went fine. Installed Mosquitto Broker and Zigbe2Mqtt on Home Assistant. Now I turned on my first Zigbee device, a circuit breaker. I started the pairing mode on the device and it showed in the Zigbee2mqtt page. I successfully "accepted" the pairing and changed the name with something more understandable than "00x3940.... " that appeared on the first time. I can switch the circuit breker on and off, and I can see the power metering informations from inside the Zigbee2mqtt page. My issue is that I dont know how to add the device or informations in any other page in home assistant. If I try to create a switch on the lovelace/dashboard, I cant find any entity, service or helper that is in some how related to the device. Basically, aftwe the pairing, I dont know how to "utilize" the zigbee device inside home assistant dashboard and/or automations.I'm sure I lack of some other configuration steps to have it working fine. Tried to google for it but I wasnt able to find something useful. There is some one that can set me on the right road? Thanks

sour shadow
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Ooooh, you went for How hard can I make if for myself and then took it up another level

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Don't use the multi-protocol firmware

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Now... did you enable HA support in Z2M?

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The versions of HA and Z2M also matter, and you may want to check HA's log file

warped gazelle
# sour shadow Don't use the multi-protocol firmware

I found the issue, the "auto discovery" in mqtt addon was disabled, dont know why, and the username/password was different from the new user I created before the install. Maybe, with many open tabs on chrome, I was sure to hit "save" during the config but I didnt. Now all works fine and the entities are immediately added to HA.

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Anyway, why do you say to not use the multi protocol?

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There are some possible issues using it? I'm planning to add some Matter devices in the next weeks....

sour shadow
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You only would need that for #thread-archived - and the devs will tell you not to do that

river sapphire
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weird question perhaps - is anyone able to pair a device with zigbee2mqtt right now? Their website is down, which at least breaks device icons in the web UI... I'm trying to pair a Philips Hue lamp that I've had paired before and removed, it's repeatedly failing the interview.

stable remnant
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Hi. Anyone experianced aqara temp/hum working for a while, and then they freeze? And need to be re-interviewed again to work. intergration is Z2M. Any ideas

violet dagger
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Low battery

shy hornet
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hey how many. have limit for this link https://a.co/d/1ypeOi8 i have 4 but it cause disconnect or slow somehow. i take off only two more better connect smooth why can't more 4 more ? can explain why. thanks. and which better. can tips me thanks

river sapphire
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seems kinda unlikely, but given that it was responding very slowly to zigbee events at the same time, I wonder if the web UI being unable to load images was somehow throwing off timings elsewhere

pine swan
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I'm just considering automating my central heating. One thing that's worrying me is what would happen if my HA goes down while the boiler heat demand is on. Does anybody know of a Zigbee (or Wi-Fi) dry contact switch that will automatically turn off if it loses its connection to the controller or runs for a non-sensible amount of time?

real magnet
pine swan
real magnet
pine swan
real magnet
pine swan
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What is the complete entity list for the device?

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Settings > Devices and Services > Entities then type the name of the device in the search box

rapid dawnBOT
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@real magnet I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
leaden grotto
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Is there a list if devices which act as router... I mean main powered devices which are tested as router

smoky mulch
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Hi, got early christmass gift, some random Tuya WIFI / ZigBee Smart Temperature And Humidity Sensor Battery Powered ZigBee Smart Home Security Work With Alexa Google Home from Ali. Branded by Aubess. Is it possible to integrate them to z2m? Pressing reset buttom seems to put them in pairing mode but z2m dont pick them up.

sour shadow
sour shadow
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You've checked Z2M's supported device list?

smoky mulch
sour shadow
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Nope

smoky mulch
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My luck, not on the list. I see the add suport page, it shows that zigbee should pick it up either way. Still doesnt show. Will try another one, maybe one is busted

leaden grotto
sour shadow
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Oh good, yet another video with a crappy writeup

leaden grotto
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Any good source to follow for this?

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Zigbee2MQTT doesn't mention it either

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I need switchs for whole house and need proper guidance on this issue. I have zero experience with zigbee previously

river sapphire
pine swan
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Plus it's 433 MHz so my ham radio gear takes it out

river sapphire
pine swan
smoky mulch
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I just found some random zigbee switch and im trying to see whether this works or not to be sure its problem with them or not HA

pine swan
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Try adding it directly to your Zigbee coordinator rather than using the generic Zigbee add-devices. I have a couple of devices that don't play nicely with my particular brand of repeater

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Settings > Devices & Services, hit the number of devices under your Zigbee integration. Find your Zigbee stick in the device list, click it then "Add devices via this device"

river sapphire
pine swan
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My Aqara temperature/humidity/pressure sensors won't connect to my Ikea light bulbs. They get added then fall off the network after a few seconds. Aqara are apparently notorious for being fussy about which repeaters they will work with

leaden grotto
smoky mulch
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Dont have zigbee in integrations.

leaden grotto
pine swan
smoky mulch
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i use z2m, zha shows in integrations z2m in devices

pine swan
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Whichever one your stick is connected to is the right one

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I've not used Z2M. I'm all ZHA here. I don't know if that is normal. Maybe someone else can comment?

smoky mulch
pine swan
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I only know that's hwo it works in ZHA

sour shadow
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Z2M has a drop-down for pairing

leaden grotto
sour shadow
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Most people never notice the cunningly hidden down arrow

river sapphire
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@mighty river if you're using the Z2M Add-On, it should appear in the left bar of HA, above Developer Tools and Settings

sour shadow
smoky mulch
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Yeap, i was using that.

sour shadow
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That allows you to pair through a given router

smoky mulch
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It can pickup the random switch, no response to that sensors

leaden grotto
pine swan
sour shadow
smoky mulch
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Ill have to go into it deeper. The switch connects and drops connection immedietaly now. So maybe some z2m config is messed up. Darn it, took me half day to get it working and now this. Either way thanks.

sour shadow
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Nothing to do with Z2M

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That's entirely down to your mesh - and interference

pine swan
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Id love it if there was a way to make my Aqara sensors play nice with my Ika bulbs. Their D1 switches work fine. It just seems to be the sensors that don't

smoky mulch
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Thanks. Ill just look for one on support list and ditche them.

sour shadow
carmine hamlet
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The text on the button doesn't give any indication of what might be hiding below. Perhaps something like a label with 'Permit Join for: ' and 'Coordinator' on the button would be better

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Stupid discord

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Was in reference to:

Most people never notice the cunningly hidden down arrow

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I guess that's still not accurate. Maybe 'all routers'

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Or something like that

sour shadow
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Well, the default is "all", but yeah, it's not that obvious

carmine hamlet
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Yeah, I forgot that it says 'Permit Join (All)'. Meh

plain jasper
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is there a place that has the list of what configuration options you should be using, if you're setting up with SkyConnect with a Raspberry Pi?

plain jasper
rigid wagon
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Just got my uzg-01 coordinator, but home assistant wont connect to it. It finds a device in hardware section(ttyUSB0) but it wont connect in the zigbee integration even though it sees the same ttyUSB0. It loads a long time, then i can select znp, then data flow, port speed and device path and send it, and then HA simply says cannot make a connection.

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Already tried rebooting HAOS, and switching usb port.

rapid dawnBOT
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@trail tide I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
trail tide
mellow geode
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If it's just battery voltage, you could use one of the PowerConfigurationClusters in zha-quirks that scales the voltage to a percentage and provide that in the replacement

trail tide
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And no sensor entity was shown, but I didn't remove and re-add the device (do I need to do that for new entities to be picked up?)

mellow geode
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Update the battery voltage attribute on that cluster and it'll update the percentage too.

trail tide
mellow geode
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No

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For your device, where is the battery voltage coming from?

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Is it already using the battery voltage attribute on the PowerConfiguration cluster?

trail tide
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Ok, and it seems like the PowerConfigurationCluster expects 0-255, but the AnalogInput returns 0-1.15 float

trail tide
mellow geode
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Ah, you made it a LocalDataCluster in your quirk, so I thought it was coming from somewhere else. (instead of just a CustomCluster)

trail tide
trail tide
mellow geode
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Make your AnalogInput cluster a CustomCluster, AnalogInput. Override update_attribute and if attrid matches AnalogInput.AttributeDefs.present_value.id, then update the voltage on the power config cluster like: self.endpoint.power.update_attribute(PowerConfiguration.AttributeDefs.battery_voltage.id, analog_input_value).

(So use the CustomPowerConfigurationCluster with your MIN/MAX voltage and your custom AnalogInput cluster in the replacement)

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LocalDataCluster means a "fake" cluster. If you don't want to send/receive data from the device on that cluster.

trail tide
mellow geode
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Yeah. The AnalogInput cluster catches the present_value battery reports and updates the battery voltage attribute on your cusotm power config cluster.

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The custom power config cluster sees that battery voltage update and also updates the percentage.

trail tide
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What is the type of value in the update_attribute method?

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Is it the float itself, or some object?

rapid dawnBOT
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@trail tide I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
trail tide
plain jasper
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I'm right in thinking that I should just be able to pair with a Philips Hue bulb, without really any issue, with HAOS, and Skyconnect? I've tried factory reseting the bulb, I've tried just turning it off and on again, but, so far, when I set HA to search during "Add Zigbee Device", it takes a long while and finds nothing

austere patio
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I've never had issues joining them. Is your SkyConnect on the provided USB extension cable? How are you resetting the bulb?

mighty river
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just set up a Sky Connect instead of a Conbee2....... am testing an Aqara motion sensor, see if it is better than the conbee before i pair more stuff.... does the skyconnect have a better chip than the conbee?

plain jasper
mighty river
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fwiw, i use a PH Hub for my all Hue stuff, then use the Hue integration in HA... no issues at all

plain jasper
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I don't have one, don't love the moves those lads have made, will likely move to all things Matter and Thread soon, sooooooo

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it's more, I don't definitively know the steps here. I amn't sure if the SkyConnect is set up right, I think so, but I've had issued with the firmware versions. I amn't sure if all things zigbee are set up right, and I amn't sure if the bulbs are definitely in pairing mode!

there's loads online about getting the bulb ready for pairing for bluetooth things, but I haven't been able to find clear instructions about getting it into pairing via zigbee, and I'm nearly certain there's nothing online for people doing it with a skyconnect. closest was this guy https://youtu.be/g3BLFJQYv7Q?t=591

plain jasper
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Can't believe it, it's just about twice in a day now, caught by basic basic things. This one? Restart the device, unplug it, and plug it back in. After I did that and tried to scan, it told me that the wrong firmware was still on the SkyConnect. Removed that and... Boom, perfect, instantly found. Thanks for the help @mighty river @austere patio

rigid wagon
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general question: With zigbee2mqtt, does every zigbee device communicate solely over mtqq? so if i want to make a automation, i have to create seperate sensors/devices for on/off/number statusses etc? or? seems like a lot of work finding out exact numbers, creating devices etc

carmine hamlet
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No, HA and Z2M support discovery, which auto creates entities

rigid wagon
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ok thanks ^^ i hear good things about both procols, i guess i'l start with zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
summer solstice
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hey guys

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I got 3 story house and I have purchased sockets with repeater capabilities. Despite I have added at least two repeaters on each floor, I still cant communicate with devices on 3rd floor even through repeaters

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is there anything else needs to be configured in the integration to make sure repeaters work fine?

carmine hamlet
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ideally they will find the routers and figure out how to get back to the coordinator, but some devices aren't that smart

summer solstice
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I cant add devices on third floor, I have added them next to router then moved devices to dedicated locations

carmine hamlet
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that's part of the problem, then

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you should include them where they'll be used

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join them to a nearby router if they won't do it themselves

sour shadow
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Moving devices after pairing screws up the mesh

summer solstice
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thing is some devices start initializing but not configuring neither added to the system, they just keep on initializing stage

carmine hamlet
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which Zigbee integration are you using?

summer solstice
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other do not even initialize

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Im using sonoff zigbee 3 dongle with my RPI

carmine hamlet
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that's not an integration

summer solstice
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with zigbee integration

carmine hamlet
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what integration?

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that's non-specific

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ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?

summer solstice
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ZHA

carmine hamlet
summer solstice
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does it make any difference from just hitting add device in ZHA l'st of devices?

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is there possibility to link devices or reroute using visualization map or its just a map without any capabilities?

carmine hamlet
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I don't use ZHA, so I don't know what the UI is like

fervent frost
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Is there a possibility to reset the occupancy state of a ikea tradfri motion sensor with a command?

carmine hamlet
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if it allows you to specifically join to a particular device, that's probably the same thing

summer solstice
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yea its the same thing

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havent used Z2M

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is it any better?

carmine hamlet
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I prefer it, but it won't make a difference for this

summer solstice
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can I use Z2M with sonoff zigbee 3 dongle?

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is there anything to do with MQTT?

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looks like it as its states zigbee2mqtt

carmine hamlet
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with the -P version, yes

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yes, clearly 🙂

summer solstice
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so its like standalone device transfers zigbee commands to mqtt?

carmine hamlet
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not really. All the Zigbee stuff happens on the server, and there's an MQTT layer that HA communicates with (or you can do it directly if you want)

summer solstice
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in this case I do not see any benefit of using it other than possibility to have dongle somewhere in the middle of area where raspberry going to be somewhere else

carmine hamlet
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you can read about it

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it has a nicer UI and generally is compatible with more devices

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and allows you to easily separate the server from HA

summer solstice
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yea

carmine hamlet
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to each their own

summer solstice
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need to try, how do I know what dongle I have through HA or need to physically check sticker on the dongle for index P?

carmine hamlet
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it's probably there somewhere. Just look at what you ordered from wherever you ordered it from

summer solstice
#

do I need to reflash dongle with custom firmware to use it as mqtt transeiver?

carmine hamlet
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no. again, the dongle has nothign to do with MQTT at all

grim igloo
#

z2m or zha controls the stick and talks to home assistant

summer solstice
#

so I just stick dongle to USB power source and install Z2M 'ntegration?

carmine hamlet
#

yes

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Z2M talks to the dongle over USB

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just like ZHA does

summer solstice
#

oh so stick needs to be plugged to raspberry too?

carmine hamlet
#

wherever you're running Z2M

summer solstice
#

so I dont see any benefits at all other than better 'nterface from your words then

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sorry to sound bit harsh doo

carmine hamlet
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there are other options, such as PoE coordinators that you just stick on your network and then point Z2M at it

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plus, often better device compatibiilty

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it's entirely up to you

mellow geode
#

FYI, you can join Zigbee devices via a specific router by going to the device page of the router, then clicking the three dots on the left and then "Add via this device" (for ZHA)

summer solstice
#

question then, can I have both ZHA and Z2M integrations simultaneousely?

astral seal
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Only if you have two coordinators

summer solstice
#

I see

summer solstice
#

I dont see three dots on repeater page

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oh sorry I see it now

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great 'nfo!

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did not know about it, thought its going to be done automatic

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through closest repeater

carmine hamlet
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that was the point

astral seal
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Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't and you have to help it a little, it can depend on the device.

summer solstice
#

maybe I have to add repeater through repeater to coordinater then

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sound bit crazy ))

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strange thing is repeater-sockets work just fine, but when I try to add for instance sonoff thermometer/humidity sensor through repeater it just get stuck on interview stage

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maybe some communication mismatch?

fiery rivet
#

Hi, has anyone managed to get the Sonoff TRVZB to pair with Home Assistant using ZHA and Conbee 2, tried 2 and cannot get them to pair or pick them up ?

sweet hemlock
#

Anybody using/tried the Aqara blind driver E1? Last I checked it doesn't update the position of the cover in HA if it's set manually. Is this still the case or are there any workarounds that have been developed?

topaz seal
#

Hey, asking once more: Can anyone assist me with integrating a new device into ZHA? I can't find anything in the developer docs and the code is not self-explanatory

stable remnant
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Hi. Anyone experianced aqara temp/hum working for a while, and then they freeze? And need to be re-interviewed again to work. intergration is Z2M. Any ideas?? Battery is OK

sand wedge
#

Any tips for getting a Sonoff ZBMini to connect that is 150+ft away from my house?
I am able to join to other devices (door sensor, smart plug, temp/hum sensor) in this spot (shed) but the ZBMini in the light switch I just installed will not connect.
I have even put the smart plug on a battery and put it in my lawn halfway to the shed, and am trying to join through that in Z2M.
Still it's not seeing anything.

sweet hemlock
brisk ibex
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It it "transition time" because 0 is the default and I would expect that to have my desied effect. But changing to 1,2,3 does noting

fossil sky
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Is there a way to set up a Zigbee light group that is considered "off" unless all lights in the group are on? I have a button toggle for one lamp and another switch that needs to be toggled twice if the lamp is on to turn on the overhead lights. Or is a custom automation the better way to go about it?

rigid wagon
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Looking for advice on a zigbee lux+motion sensor. Cheap.

sour shadow
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Well, do you want cheap, or good?

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The Aqara motion sensors have a lux sensor, but they're crap ones

#

Hue's isn't crap, but isn't cheap. Same for Develco's "mini"

sweet hemlock
#

EP1 is great

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They're on offer at the moment

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But again, not exactly cheap

solar dawn
#

Hey - does anyone know if there's a Zigbee Switch that leaves bulbs powered on and reachable, even when the wall switch is in the off position? (and no neutral required)?

molten linden
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Inovelli blue can do this. You’ll likely need a by-pass as a smart bulbs off current is not enough current for the non-neutral mode.

solar dawn
molten linden
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No neutral switches rely on leaking current from the load side. But smart bulbs really don’t work well with that . A by-pass can add a bit of resistive load I believe.

limpid light
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I got it working with the quirk but it's WAAY too sensitive. Picking me up through some thick walls even lol.

arctic linden
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not sure if this is the right place to ask, but i have been running homeassistant for a long time, primarlily using Hue Hub and Z-Wave. Ready to punt Hue hub for Phillips reasons, and interested in Zigbee/Thread/Matter going forward. Is SkyConnect the path of least resistence or should i be looking at other options?

limpid light
limpid light
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although I also use a hue hub for my hue stuff

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I had some wierd issues with the sonoff bridge so i retired it

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even after i updated the firmware. The sky connect bridge has been pretty decent

arctic linden
#

so you were mentioning Millimeter Detection sensors, will you use SkyConnect for that? (Zigbee)

limpid light
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Yes I'm currently testing one now

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It's not strictly supported but I think I got it where I need it to be

#

If this works this thing will be a game changer for only 20 bucks

arctic linden
#

mmwave sesnsors are one of the reasons i am looking to switch

limpid light
#

they have wifi ones too

#

I get pretty decent results from the screek esp32 one

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it's even got zones and multiple target tracking on that one

oak pike
#

These aqara light switches are proving to be next to worthless regarding their reliability.

limpid light
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although it's not as precise as i hoped it would be

limpid light
#

I will never use any other switch again

oak pike
#

Bought four about six months ago. One died last week. A second died… just now.

limpid light
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besides the caseta

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they have been rock solid since day 1

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most reliable component in my entire smart home system

#

and i have a lot of component

oak pike
#

Not familiar. They require an integration or is that some sort of zwave zigbee item?

limpid light
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no

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requires it's own bridge

oak pike
#

Woof

limpid light
#

but integrates easily and locally

#

runs on it's own frequency so little interference

#

like 400mhz I think?

#

I don't remember.

#

I know it's not 900/2.4

#

but SUPER reliable, and worth every penny

#

It never fails.

oak pike
#

These aqaras have an explicit pop/feedback action when you use them. Once they blow they just feel dead. Like no action in the button.

limpid light
#

i would dump zwave and zigbee in a heartbeat if lutron made all the rest of the devices like sensors and shit

oak pike
#

Very disappointing. I mean this is 50% failure rate in under a year.

limpid light
#

yeah you run across that problem with zigbee devices

oak pike
#

Worse yet - get this… the one I replaced last week, the replacement was DOA.

limpid light
#

very cheaply made

#

zwave is usually a bit better if you stick to reputable brands

oak pike
#

Does Lutron require neutral

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Or whatever the extra wire is

arctic linden
limpid light
#

Yeah i feel that

#

this thing passes way too much information to work on zigbee though

#

it updates like every tenth of a second

limpid light
#

This is going to make automatic lighting SO MUCH BETTER

oak pike
#

@limpid light the lutron diva switch doesn't require a neutral but it's 74 flip flapping dollars

left magnet
hushed nacelle
#

Hi! I just set up my Raspberry PI with Home Assistant OS and the Conbee 2 Zigbee-controller. I'm using the ZHA integration. I have bought an Aqara water leak sensor and an Aqara wirless mini switch T1. I was able to connect to the leak sensor, it when I trigger it I can see the leak detected event as expected. I can also see the battery level.

For the mini switch, I am able to connect to it, but there is no event triggered when I push the button. The battery level is also unknown. I tried replacing the battery, but it did not help. I tried deleting it and setting it up again multiple times, and it is detected and configured every time, but still no event when I push the button. The blue indicator light on the switch lights up when I click the button, so I can see it registers my clicks.

I did some research on the community, and found a blueprint for the switch: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zha-aqara-wireless-mini-switch/255540. It supports the specific version lumi.remote.b1acn01, however my version is lumi.remote.b1acn02. I could not find any information on lumi.remote.b1acn02 when searching, so maybe it is a new version. I tried manually editing the blueprint and update the model to lumi.remote.b1acn02, hoping that it would be compatible. I then set up an automation using the blueprint, but it does not trigger when I click the button.

Any advice for what I can try next?

rigid wagon
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i just added my first 2 devices, 2 lamps, to zigbee2mqtt in home assistant. in smartthings i could use a trigger when they are a certain percentage of brightness for x amount of times, but this is not possible in home assistant's automations menu. is there a way to add this?

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also lights turn on instantly, without the fun 0.5s 0-100% fade-in effect, but didn't google about that yet, maybe its possible to enable that.

rapid dawnBOT
#

@left magnet I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
left magnet
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And now I get this:
"energy_scan": {
"11": 12.244260188723507,
"12": 39.90320178295578,
"13": 73.50699819621309,
"14": 80.38447947821754,
"15": 49.512515447068886,
"16": 9.713248103580147,
"17": 75.96022321405563,
"18": 78.25348754651363,
"19": 6.789392891308996,
"20": 78.25348754651363,
"21": 70.89933442360993,
"22": 36.830390267097734,
"23": 36.830390267097734,
"24": 25.74050169409602,
"25": 68.14622793558128,
"26": 55.9836862725909
},

austere patio
shadow valley
#

i have a philips hue light that seems to lock up the whole zigbee network

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i see lots of these: zigbee2mqtt | Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-11-26 15:51:31: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/0xc498860000d97104', payload '{"brightness":203,"color":{"x":0.589,"y":0.329},"color_mode":"xy","color_temp":439,"linkquality":24,"state":"ON"}'

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and then this from mqtt:
1701010416: Client mqttjs_c465331e has exceeded timeout, disconnecting.

tough prism
#

I've got a zigbee power bar with 4 outlets. Successfully integrated with zha, with control of each outlet on the power bar, but it has set entity type as light for all 4 outlets. This is fine for the 2 lamps I have plugged in, but the fan I'm using is also set as a light. I know how to turn a switch into a light by creating a helper but it won't allow me to do the opposite. Is there a way to turn the designated entity type from light to fan (or switch)?

sweet hemlock
#

Hi, I'm considering either Aqara E1 or Tuya AM43 blind drivers for my home. Does anyone have any experience with either of these under Z2M??

shadow valley
tough prism
rapid dawnBOT
#

@vale dome I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
vale dome
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Oh also forgot to mention I am using Zigbee2Mqtt along with the ConBee II USB

cerulean flicker
#

Hi. Im using i deCONZ for my zigbee network, but i cant figure out how to "heal" the network.
Is there any way to make the zigbee "heal/optimize" its routing?

left magnet
stable remnant
austere patio
weak wind
#

Hello everybody,
I'm using zha with a couple of tuya devices. All of them have been paired and doing their work. Now I wan't to bind 2 of them, a 2 way relay switch (connected to my switch in my room) and a plug that's connected to a socket. Unfortunately I don't get how to do this. I created a group and put them both in it. Then I tried to use the binding option of both devices, but I found only 2 bindable attributes, OTA and Time.....nothing like switch or state or something else.

Did I miss something? I want the wallswitch to toggle my lamp on, even when my home assistant has trouble or doing a restart.

Thanks in advance

molten linden
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in my experience most tuya devices don't support binding.

cerulean flicker
left magnet
#

Hi all, for an USB-A extension cable to have a zigbee ddongle put away fron raspberry pi, is 1meter OK ?

rigid wagon
#

what do people around here recommend for light+motion sensor? (and temp is possible) for zigbee?

#

finding so much garbage on aliexpress, trying to find a deal

#

there's the little round motion sensors that have a lux sensor, but the lux sensor only updates when it's motion state changes.... 🙈
And then there's a interesting motion sensor that includes a button, quite handy! and has a light sensor....but the light sensor only reports if its dark or light....useless.
then there's presense sensors, but they are quite a bit more expensive, plus the last ones i bought were so super chatty, 3 of them crashed my whole zigbee network.

dark birch
#

I have a TS0601 air quality sensor. It's reporting every 5 seconds. Is there any way to reduce it's reporting rate?

dark birch
astral seal
sour shadow
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The lux part though is meh - I've posted images here before comparing them to decent sensors and showing how bad they are

mellow geode
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Ah, but this will only work if the Tuya sensor uses ZCL attributes and not the special Tuya datapoints that are then mapped to fake ZCL attributes by zha-quirks. This depends on the sensor, I'll take a look at the quirk

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hmm, if your device is using the ts0601_air_quality quirk, it seems like it's not fixable. That device/quirks uses special Tuya datapoints, so we can't control the reporting rate like we can if it would use proper (ZCL) attributes.

vale dome
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I'm having an issue with my scene automation in homeassistant.
I'm using a Aqara Wireless Remote Switch H1 (Double Rocker) to which has 2 functions in total:

  • Left button - Single press: Turn Off Lights in Living room
  • Right button - Single press: Activate scene #1

The scene #1, simply changes the brightness of three Ikea Tradfri bulbs.

Problem:
When I press the right button, only one MQTT message(turning on one of the lamps) is published, when 3 is expected.

Additional Observations:

  • The correct events from the remote is correct, and the automations do trigger as expected
  • It only happens when triggering the automation using the Aqara remote
  • It works fine when triggering the action, manually(As in three "light-on" MQTT messages is published)

Setup

  • Zigbee2Mqtt using ConBee II adapter
dark birch
mellow geode
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doubt it's gonna work too, since the issue also seems to exist with Tuya gateways according to the Z2M issues, but you could also try to execute the tuya_magic command from zha_toolkit for your device.
It reads some attributes on the Basic cluster in a certain order which unlocks some capabilities on newer Tuya devices.
(Some quirks do this automatically with EnchantedDevice and certain "enchantable" clusters which are able to issue reads on pairing, but it's not activated for your device. Probably won't make a difference then, but maybe worth a try)

flint sluice
#

Hi. Using the Aquara Vibration sensors to try to set up an automation when the Washing machine is done, but I can't figure it out. Any hints??

mellow geode
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Are you using ZHA or Z2M?

flint sluice
mellow geode
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Is the vibration sensor entity working?

flint sluice
#

Yeap. But the options I see are for different angles, x,y, and z. Not sure how to use that..

#

I tried this but it goes off randomly...
Trigger: When device stops detecting motion
Action: tell Alexa to send notification

sour shadow
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There's a vibration binary_sensor

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That's on when there's vibration, and off otherwise, but it's a crude tool for this

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The forum has some good solutions for using power monitoring

flint sluice
#

I will try the sensor
Thanks. The power monitoring may be my next step

tough prism
fathom ibex
#

I bought an innr SP 240 smart plug to test its metering support in ZHA. I found that the power meter is working, albeit it returns Watts with zero decimals. The energy metering also does show a value, this value however seems to be 100 times the actual energy used: running my filament dryer for 5 hours, which uses 0.170 kWh measured with another brand plug, used 17 kWh according to the INNR SP 240. Is there anything I can do / need to do to get correct energy readings?

night mural
#

Hi

i have a questen. Ive got 2 Networks which are connected via VPN, in my main network ive got the HA Server with zigbee running. All working fine (within that network).
But does anyone know how to make my HA to control Zigbee divices in the second network? There must be a kind of Zigbee controller that i can connect via IP (throu the VPN) right?

https://ibb.co/nzQMsPt here you can see a networkplan.

Any ideas?

mellow geode
mellow geode
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Note: You can't set up two ZHA instances on the same HA instance. But you can set up multiple Z2M instances (or one ZHA, one Z2M)

night mural
#

hmm thx that sounds interessting, could work

astral seal
#

I use a Sonoff S31 (WiFi) flashed with esphome for my washer and a Shelly EM for my dryer.

elder surge
#

Do i need to have aqara hub to add aqara products to HA or can they be added to HA directly?

sudden yarrow
#

Zigbee Aqara devices can be added directly to HA, if you have a Zigbee coordinator

weak wind
#

Tuya

elder surge
tender cradle
#

hi all, i'm on the verge of migration from deConz to zigbee2mqtt with my Conbee II stick, after Tinkerers suggestion. I guess i should first remove all from my HA config, than remove old Deconz addon. and then start the journey with zigbee2mqtt or is there a other preferred migration path?

spark hare
sour shadow
#

What Zigbee channel are you using now? What do ZHA's diagnostics show?

spark hare
#

and the wifi 2.5 of the main router I had to change it back to 13, I will change it back to 1 again now and monitor the errors

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I have this error: [0xC4CB:1:0x0008]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Faile

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and inside it: [0xC4CB:1:0x0008]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>')]
[0xC4CB:1:0x0006]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>')]
[0x8C1A:1:0x0300]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>')]
[0x8C1A:1:0x0008]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>')]
[0x8C1A:1:0x0006]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>')]

violet wave
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but the problem I have is that since there was translations added, all the entities are named "None" even tho I added the translation in english

odd mango
#

Hi. I tried to update fw on ikea switch via z2m and it got stuck. How do I cancel/reset?

ashen bluff
rapid reef
#

Hey i used to have zha but i kept running with various devices into issues with zha as they only ever partially ever worked others dropped off and forever became unavailable.

Thus i decided to switch to z2m. In the devices list i removed all zha devices and restarted and within integrations it offers me again to configure my sonoff stick.

However when i want to start z2m
Zigbee2MQTT i get the following error in log
error 2023-11-27 16:36:43: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:103:27)
at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29)
at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:60:27)
at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:101:27)
at start (/app/index.js:107:5)

sour shadow
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What stick? The Sonoff P or E, or one of the other half-dozen they've done

rapid reef
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/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20230329111148-if00

sour shadow
#

So? P or E?

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Guessing that's the E, but guessing doesn't help

rapid reef
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How do i know?

sour shadow
#

EFR32 == E

#

You need to read the Z2M docs for your adapter 😉

rapid reef
#

okay i added the part to my configuration.yaml lets see.

#

well now i added to the config yaml and now i get this error The serial integration does not support YAML setup, please remove it from your configuration

shadow valley
#

one of my namron light bulbs suddenly starts flooding the zigbee network with announcements. this basically renders the entire network unusable

#

MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/0xc498860000d97104', payload '{"brightness":76,"color_mode":"color_temp","color_temp":454,"color_temp_startup":370,"linkquality":27,"state":"ON"}'

#

i see lots of these messages

sour shadow
#

They just happen to call their config file the same thing

#

But... they're not the same file

rapid reef
sour shadow
#

And ... Z2M's YAML goes in Z2M's config file, not HA's

rapid reef
#

right but if a documentation says "add something to configuration.yaml" i understand it as add it to the main configuration.yaml file

sour shadow
#

You have to pay attention

#

Which docs say that?

#

HA's?

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Z2M's?

rapid reef
#

Z2Ms

sour shadow
#

Right, so very clearly it's NOT TALKING ABOUT HA's FILE is it...

#

Quite clearly it's talking about Z2M's own configs

rapid reef
#

its not clear to me as other integrations and addons also utalize the main configuration.yaml and not of their own yaml

sour shadow
#

integrations are part of HA

#

add-ons are other software

#

ALL other software has their own config

#

None of those add-ons use HA's config file for settings

#

(they do appear to live under HA's config folder, but that's an unfortunate implementation choice by the HA devs)

rapid reef
#

right, getting into z2m configuration i guess itsthe serial one? and not mqtt and not socat where the 2 liner should be added

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okay i switched from ui to yaml view and that explains it a bit better

sour shadow
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That goes in the file formatted exactly as shown

#

As with all YAML if you already have serial just add the second line to that section

rapid reef
#

thanks for the hint, got it working now.

plush gazelle
#

Hi, im looking for wall electric heaters with zigbee, somebody knows anything?

sour shadow
#

Anything more needs you to tell us at least what country you're in, but ...

rapid dawnBOT
#

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
plush gazelle
#

(in caps) love u @sour shadow

#

There are only 3 brands but its better than nothing

slow saffron
#

Hello, i have a question about range of devices.
My server is at the end of house (in desktop).
I have my philips hue bridge inside + bulb network.
On server i have usb dongle
and i have 2 Nous A1Z plugs on in desktop one in dinner room for TV block.

I tried then to add one nous A1Z in kitchen, and no network ...
Ok big walls in this house, but only a few meters, i think :

  • 5 m between plug and kitchen door,
  • 1 m between kitchen door and new plug.

i thought zigbee should relay the signal ?

I bought a linky key with antenna and 2 others nous A1Z this weekend, start to have a doubt to be able to use them...

tender cradle
#

@sour shadow I managed to move to zigbee2mqtt. Thanks!

mellow geode
violet wave
mellow geode
#

Are all entities missing the name?

violet wave
mellow geode
#

Branch is rebased on dev? (or those commits merged into your branch)

violet wave
#

yep rebased on current dev

mellow geode
#

The device entities do not have a name defined in HA, right?

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(Removing and re-adding also keeps showing those names?)

violet wave
#

nope, I removed and re-added the device completely several times

mellow geode
#

Did you run python3 -m script.translations develop?

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Translation changed a while ago though, not sure if you need it for only adding strings to strings.json

cerulean vale
#

Sorry for this stupid question but when ZHA says:

"Interview Complete
Configuring"

Do I have to continue staring at that screen or can I leave and it will still set up properly?

sour shadow
#

You can leave safely

violet wave
#

that was it !

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thanks @mellow geode !

mellow geode
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ah, awesome!

cerulean vale
#

It appears the IKEA TRÅDFRI remotes doesn't work with ZHA. THat's a shame. Was about to dump the gateway but it appears I can't

mellow geode
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They do

violet wave
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@mellow geode ok then, I'll get that PR neat and clean this week hopefully ! thanks again !

mellow geode
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nice! You should be able to use quirk IDs now

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there's an "example" in the code with the Tuya plugs. Also in the manufacturerspecific.py for initializing attributes on pairing

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you'll need to add a quirk_id in your quirk too

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let me know if you need any help

cerulean vale
mellow geode
cerulean vale
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yeah I've read as much but that just doesn't happen

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No events are triggered for me 😦

mellow geode
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Which particular remote do you have?

cerulean vale
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Was the same a year ago when I tried this

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It's the blinds one

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I did get the rotary encoder Symfonisk one to work

mellow geode
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Ah, try to "reconfigure" the remote. Often, they don't pair correctly (fail to set up binding)

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It might depend on the firmware version

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So, open the reconfiguration dialog using the three dots on the device page -> reconfigure device

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Then, as you're starting to press "start reconfiguration", press some buttons on the remote multiple times (so it can wake up and receive the commands)

cerulean vale
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Thanks, good tip! I will try

violet wave
cerulean vale
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I bought the Dirigera hub only to find it's not supported 😄

cerulean vale
mellow geode
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Did you get green checks in the dialog?

cerulean vale
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No yellow X:es

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I shall reinstall my Trådfri gateway. If it aint broke don't fix it. But i just can't never remember that!

mellow geode
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Okay, that means the remote didn't wake up properly

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so didn't receive any of the reconfiguration commands

cerulean vale
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Probably incompatible

mellow geode
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No, the remotes are finicky though.

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Maybe also try new batteries

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and/or re-pair again

keen merlin
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About a month in using my home-made battery-backed Zigbee routers based on the Sonoff Dongle E USB Sticks. They are rock solid and many of my end nodes have chosen them as their first hop, No nodes have gone AWOL and I have a lot that are battery powered end-nodes

keen merlin
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If anyone is looking a for a Zigbee temperature sensor with the temp probe on a cable so the radio unit can remain outside the freezer try the MACREO ST4. They say it needs a Macreo hub but I've been able to pair them directly with the Zigbee controller in the Yellow by repeatedly trying and keeping pairing button depressed until pairing is complete. The result isn't perfect, no battery level data or manuf ID, but the temp data is reliably sent. I like these because they have a large rechargeable internal lithium battery and a very thin and wide cable that you can close the freezer door on without pinching or creating an air gap. I have three of these all working sending temp data. This definitely a hack so your on your own because YMMV. I bought some low-temp (good to -70F) tape to tape the cable and probe to the internal wall of my freezers. And, the probe is connected to the radio unit with a small phone plug so it's easy to remove the radio and take it to the bench for recharging. Macreo says the battery should last two years. Too bad they don't sell a fully Zigbee compliant version. It would be a winner .

cerulean vale
plush gazelle
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any other way to fix my problem?

Im looking for a heater panel electric one with zigbee

iron mauve
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Hey folks - I've got two Zigbee devices that are just stuck spinning, apparently installing an update. Attempting to do OTA update through Zigbee2MQTT doesn't seem to do anything, powering off device and back on doesn't change what HA is reporting that is "installing an update". One is GL-C-008P (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/GL-C-008P.html#gledopto-gl-c-008p) and the other is Innr SP 224 (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/SP_224.html#innr-sp%2520224). This has been occuring since the last HA Core Beta Update IIRC (but could have been a zigbee2mqtt update too), about a week or two ago and persists through HA restarts and the like. Here is a picture of what I am seeing: https://imgur.com/a/8eJgp9S

I thought I read (but cant seem to verify) that this was a known issue and an update was coming soon, but its been like 3+ weeks I think.

sour shadow
sour shadow
iron mauve
plush gazelle
sour shadow
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Well, you can do that with dumb devices and temperature sensors

cerulean vale
vocal vigil
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I paired a few sensors at my desk before putting them in place, and it's resulted in some slightly funky routes showing on the topology map; should I worry about that, or will that update over time on its own to a more sensible arrangement?

carmine hamlet
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You should always pair in place

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They may correct, or they may not

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I suggest repairing in place, and choose the router you want if necessary

jaunty rover
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Hi all!, i´m trying to track the timming of some automations i have but i could not find out any tool for it. the situation is as follows. I have an ESP device as a door bell and i want to see how much delay i have between presing the buton and the actual message geting to my dashboard as sometimes i have instant response and sometimes i 5 minutes delay....

carmine hamlet
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Is that related to zigbee?

vocal vigil
keen merlin
jaunty rover
keen merlin
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The device your're sending from must be able to get the current time. There are functions for the ESP to get the time from a time server and set a local clock that you can the time from. Both the sending device and your HA server must have the same time.

carmine hamlet
mellow geode
oak pike
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Is there any pragmatic way to leverage the exact second a zigbee device becomes unavailable and thus pipe that into an action?

digital narwhal
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I'm buying the first of my temperature sensors. Is there any specific ones that are recommended. I see aqara mentioned a lot and was planning on just getting those from amazon.

dry igloo
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Anyone have pointers on where to start debugging my centralite 3156105?

It is reading attributes from the zigbee device just fine, but anytime I try to set something on it, it just returns mac_no_ack 233.

I'm using ZHA, using a athom zigbee bridge, all my other devices work fine, but I don't have anything else that "receives commands" so it could just be that part is not working at all.

sour shadow
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Is there any pragmatic way to leverage

shadow valley
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what is an external converter and how do i remove them?

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i'm getting that error

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ah, i see i have a js file here

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nevermind, solved it 🙂

brisk cradle
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Devices that have an OTA available in Zigbee2MQTT keep showing up in my notification panel as 'Installing', but they're not installing, it's just there's an OTA available. The notification never finishes. Is that a HA problem, or Z2M problem? https://imgur.com/a/hcXXmOw

sour shadow
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Known Z2M bug, will be fixed in 1.34.0

random shell
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hi, i have https://templates.blakadder.com/ewelink_ZB-GW03.html this device currently and thinking about putting it to use. currently i have devices running on sonoff usb3 plus stick. i am interested in backup/restore migration to and from that tasmota powered device that provides zha endpoint over network. what is my options to backup and restore it?

lean echo
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I have an aqara door sensor that looks like it's running out of battery because it stops reporting to Z2M, but if I press the sensor's button or hold it reports again for a little while. the battery shows at 100% (which I guess it's impossible as it's a 2 years old sensor and this door is used every day). Is there any way to mark the device as offline when none of its values have changed for, let's say, 3h or something like that?

sour shadow
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Use availability in Z2M

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(and replace the battery)

lean echo
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yeah, I bought new batteries so I'll replace it as soon as I get them, but it's annoying it didn't tell me before

#

I see if I change it to advance the default is 1500 minutes which is 25h, I guess there's a reason for that, but wouldn't be enough something around 12h?

sour shadow
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Check and see how often your devices check in (enable last_seen). Usually that'll be hourly for end devices, but some Tuya ones may only check in every 3 hours.

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Setting 6 hours should be safe though

lean echo
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I have a few of these sensors and all have N/A

sour shadow
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Then they've never checked in (since you enabled last_seen)

lean echo
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I have availability (simple) witht the checkbox marked 🤔

sour shadow
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That's not the same as last_seen

lean echo
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aah 🤦‍♂️

#

now it's working, thanks!

#

and what would be the best way to make an automation about this? just checking if some random entity is unavailable?

sour shadow
bold plume
astral seal
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What do you mean by manual mode?

vocal vigil
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As noted before I did not pair in place a number of battery sensor devices, and they're currently attached in a super wacky way. I did run into issues, and have tried deleting and re-pairing (in place) but it seems to resume the previous attachments.

Is there a portion of the delete process I am overlooking, or some further kind of reset needed to the devices to forget the previous setup entirely? I have first floor sensors on a third floor lamp, chaos rules the land.

sour shadow
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Use the option to pair via a chosen router device

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Both ZHA and Z2M have that

thorny grail
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hi i just bought a zigbee hub and i think it doesn't require any wifi to use but is it possible to still use it in ha without wifi?

sour shadow
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There's thousands of "a zigbee hub"

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Make?

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Model?

thorny grail
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SONOF zigbee 3.0 USB dongle

sour shadow
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That's a USB stick, not a hub

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(there's also at least three different ones called that)

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As a USB stick it doesn't use WiFi, or any other networking

thorny grail
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on the box it says Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus

sour shadow
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Yeah, there's two of those, one P and one E

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Sonoff are almost as bad as HA at naming things 😛

thorny grail
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it's the p

sour shadow
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As a USB stick it doesn't use WiFi, or any other networking

thorny grail
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mhm but homeassistant does

sour shadow
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Sure

thorny grail
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so how would i control it without wifi

sour shadow
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Wire it?

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HA needs internet to install, and to add integrations

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You can cut it off after that, but not before

thorny grail
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but when i turn my wifi on my phone off it's unable to load the ui

carmine hamlet
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that HA needs a network connection is unrelated to Zigbee

thorny grail
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isn't this because i am using the adress i made with duckdns

sour shadow
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What's the actual problem?

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Because there's nothing Zigbee about this

agile mantle
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Tuya switch _TZE204_ptaqh9tk

thorny grail
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i can't acces my zigbee devices in homeassistant without wifi

sour shadow
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Just those, or HA at all?

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but when i turn my wifi on my phone off it's unable to load the ui

thorny grail
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ha

sour shadow
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That says at all

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Right, so that's got nothing to do with Zigbee

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nothing

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(and forget all about Zigbee, that's a distraction)

mighty river
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I'm getting this issue with SkyConnect. Any one seen this before? Zigbee channel 11 utilization is 97.98%!

austere patio
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Is your SkyConnect near any USB 3.0 ports, SSDs, 2.4GHz routers, or Bluetooth devices?

carmine hamlet
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you're using a terrible channel that's completely saturated

mighty river
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It's set to auto choose its own channel 🤷‍♂️

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I tried moving the skyconnect device a few times with the same issue to different locations

austere patio
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auto only picks the initial channel. For 11 to have been picked, it would mean that 15, 20, and 25 are even worse (since 11 is picked only if every other channel is really bad)

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Are you using the USB extension cable?

mighty river
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it's on an extension cable, and not near anything other than itself

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if I select a new channel, is there anything I need to be concerned about?

bold plume
austere patio
mighty river
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Ill have a go, thanks

carmine hamlet
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does that output an energy scan somewhere that the user can see?

austere patio
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Only in the ZHA diagnostics JSON. It might be a good idea to put it into the channel migration dialog 🤔

mighty river
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What is channel migration dialog ?

carmine hamlet
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I like to micromanage things 🙂

austere patio
mighty river
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Devices will re-join the network over time. This may take a few minutes.

Done

tough prism
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When I look at the zigbee network visualization tab, what does the colour (green/yellow/red/grey) of the connecting line indicate? And what does the number on each line (e.g. 192/127) mean?

plush gazelle
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somebody bought these and can verify if power measure is working?

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4001331572312.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.19.1c155609XDv1fE&algo_pvid=ce06619f-8ee2-4500-b855-2fe5296e7fd2&aem_p4p_detail=202311280851558537732808106050001150103&algo_exp_id=ce06619f-8ee2-4500-b855-2fe5296e7fd2-9&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!20.22!7.08!!!21.63!!%402103835e17011903154431023eee71!10000015721071811!sea!ES!1873191908!&curPageLogUid=T3qukc9re8Vn&search_p4p_id=202311280851558537732808106050001150103_2

mighty river
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I also just turned my sonoff plus into a router and I will move a few things onto that as well

austere patio
fathom ibex
# mellow geode Create an issue here: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues It's l...

INNR support claims that ZHA would incorrectly interpret the definition their SP 240 supplies in response to the configuration request:
"Wat betreft de kWh formatting: het “SummationFormatting” attribuut van het Metering cluster heeft waarde 0x2A, wat betekent: 2 digits to the right of the decimal point, 5 digits to the left of the decimal point, don’t suppress leading zeroes. Lijkt er dus op dat zijn systeem de waarde van het “SummationFormatting” attribuut van het Metering cluster niet of verkeerd interpreteert."
Anyone who can check if ZHA indeed improperly picks up on the SummationFormatting attribute's value of 0x2A on the SP 240's Metering cluster?

tough prism
mellow geode
austere patio
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@tough prism If it works, it works 🤷. You can rejoin devices to get them to start off in the right spot (use the "add devices via this device" dropdown option) but some will migrate on their own, like older Hue motion sensors.

fathom ibex
tough prism
sour shadow
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Wrong channel @jaunty rover

fathom ibex
jaunty rover
sour shadow
tough prism
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I'm following instructions to set up an IR blaster. Where can I find/check/change: "Your log config must be at least to info"

manic plinth
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Does anyone have the link for checking what the latest firmware version is for IKEA products?

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I want to check if OTA works through ZHA

shadow valley
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i have the following 4-in-1-dimmer from namron: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/4512726.html . i want to directly bind this to a light to control/dim it (and also with on/off). but i want to use the same dimmer to send a command to h-a when i double-click on the knob. is that possible?

tough prism
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Oh I found it:

pine swan
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I bought a pair of Aqara D1 wireless switches a while back and they've been great so I bought another pair for a different room. One of them is fine but the other has a mushy feel and keeps dropping off my mesh. It loses connection at least once a day. Does anyone have any suggestions for anything to try before I request a replacement from the seller?

fresh jackal
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Hello! Sorry to bother everyone, but does anyone know if Hedda on github lurks in here?

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I'd like to talk to them about some Green Power devices they might have on hand,

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conversely, if anyone can get a sniff of commissioning packets from a PTM216Z I'd really appreciate it.

mellow geode
fresh jackal
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Gotcha, thanks.

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Commissioning packets should be sniffable easily with any CC2531, they're unencrypted and the sniffer should be able to grab what I need without any additional device involvement.

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But basically I just need to know what security mode and key type they're using to add support for them.

molten linden
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@fresh jackal Are you in the US? Happy to get one from Digikey and get it sent to you.

cursive inlet
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Hey all! Is anyone aware of a Zigbee curtain chain puller that works with HA? Preferably without the need for a hub? I’m based in Canada if that helps too

plush gazelle
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can I print a desired value in some display?

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I plan to automate consumption of heaters with solar panels using smart plugs.

but for the temp objective I dont want to install a thermostat, i want a simple panel, and maybe a few temp sensors over the house, how can I achive this?

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maybe a wireless thermostat or one working with batteries?

lime goblet
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Has anyone’s Skyconnect recently bricked?

sour shadow
final aurora
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Hey guys I was wondering if it's necessary or a good idea to buy Zigbee repeaters? I've never had a problem just seeing. It doesn't cost that much and wondering if it would make the Zigbee network that much stronger. I have a ton of Phillips Hue Smart Bulbs. Don't wired in things act as repeaters too? Is there a way to check the strength of your Zigbee Network?

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Can't upload pictures but found a USB stick that specifically says its compatible with HA and it's on sale for 7 dollars.

sour shadow
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The correct term is router and yes, most mains powered things are routers

vocal vigil
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Learn from me, distribute mains powered items well and first.

fresh jackal
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If you have a ton of Philips bulbs you’re probably covered. I’ve had very good experiences with their range and they are indeed routers; they’ll repeat the packets as you expect.

final aurora
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Okay, thanks yeah I spent a lot on all of them. I would have gone no-name brand now. But they are throughout my entire house.

fresh jackal
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Eh. I’ve done the no-name thing and I can’t recommend it. Their color reproduction stinks, certain features weirdly don’t work and they don’t support green power tunneling.

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Ultimately fine for a basement or other place you don’t use often but I wouldn’t put them in a space that humans occupy regularly.

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The cheapest you should do IMO is the Moes TuYa bulbs. Gledopto makes some okay stuff but they also sometimes weirdly lack features like “don’t turn on after a power outage”

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(I’ve got an E12 bulb like that and a crummy utility company lol)

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But they’re also not encumbered with TuYa’s special brand of weirdness.

final aurora
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Yeah, I got some cheap Zigbee smoke detectors almost everything I have is name-brand right now. I want to sell the Samsung smart hub. I only have 1 Zwave device. A smoke detector that was like 90 bucks picked up 3 Zigbee ones on Aliexpress for 4 dollars each. Reviews are good as everyone says it integrates with home assistant.

digital kiln
#

Hello, is there a way to see what messages got sent trough ZHA to a Wireless Zigbee LED Controller?

scarlet temple
#

I poked around a bit but didn't find anything do we have a migration tool for zha to zig2mqtt?

sour shadow
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No

digital kiln
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So there is no way to troubleshoot your devices by looking at the network then?

sour shadow
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You can create a sniffer if you want to do that

astral seal
scarlet temple
plain iris
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is there someone who knows if the Ledvance Tunable White LED zigbee bulb are supported by HA?
Can I control the white temp with that bulbs?
can I use them with the SkyConnect USB key from HA?

fresh jackal
scarlet temple
fresh jackal
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These are outdoor bulbs I presume?

vale robin
#

Hey, anyone able to help. Ive got 3 Aqara roller shades E1 connect to Z2M. Work great but my issue is they dont update the position status when they are changed. Pretty much stay at 0

scarlet temple
fresh jackal
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Oh weird, I assumed they were far enough away that sometimes they freaked out and lost contact and went into repairing mode.

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Well, either way yeah I'm not sure what to do about that immediately my apologies.

scarlet temple
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no worries

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its a weird. my map just doesn't seem to be flushed out like i have expected

molten linden
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Sengled bulb have FW issues in my opinion 😂 some meshes they just don't work/stay online without being power cycled regularly. Caused NWK conflicts and eventually would never rejoin after told to leave and rejoin after each conflict.

scarlet temple
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Yeah I didn't remember that's why I was using z2m until after I had redeployed and was like why are all these menus different lol

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If I didn't lost all the names I'd go do it. But losing all my entities id is a job for when days off not hours lol

summer forge
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Would anyone be able to explain how i can add a custom quirk file to my HA?

normal temple
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is someone running zigbee2mqtt with a tasmota flashed sonoff zg bridge?
trying to setup zigbee2mqtt 1.33.2-1, i ran zha and would like to switch over cause of some white label hama thermostats.
can't get the ui of z2m to start tho.
https://cloud.oneiros.wtf/s/ZBHAcyAsM6wwe3d/preview when trying to connect to the bridge via
adapter: ezsp
port: tcp://192.168.64.222:8888
in the config.
the bridge itself gets the tcp connection at least, but its console won't tell more :/

any ideas?

molten linden
summer forge
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Thank you very much @molten linden! However, i can't seem to find a folder called config in the File Editor addon?

molten linden
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config folder is where ever the configuration.yaml file is

summer forge
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Ooh, alright! Is it possible though that that is called /homeassistant instead of /config?