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gaunt hull
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maybe I'm incorrect, but I thought you need some sort of addon to support Zigbee (or Zwave) within Home Assistant

harsh mango
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I've been using zigbee for a while now without an addon

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I just need to understand how things mesh, if they are meshing.

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afaik, everything is connecting through my main coordinator

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and that may be part of the problem(s) I'm facing

gaunt hull
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afaik, zigbee handles meshing automatically if your device(s) are capable of acting as routers

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battery devices, and bulbs aren't routers, but things like smart plugs and switches often are

harsh mango
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actually I think my bulbs may be routers too

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omg

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I didn't know I could "visualize" the network

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it looks like everything is connected to everything for the most part

gaunt hull
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ah good. I was going to say that I know Zigbee2MQTT has a map feature, but wasn't sure if you had that available too

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that should show you the device routers and endpoints

harsh mango
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I don't think this is efficient

gaunt hull
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is there a heal network option?

harsh mango
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I don't see one

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but yeah, seems that each bulb is a router too

sour shadow
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There's no heal option for Zigbee

harsh mango
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so I guess, should I maybe be manually specifying the routers that things connect to?

gaunt hull
sour shadow
harsh mango
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for instance, the button in my kids bedroom could connect to the bulb in their bedroom, which could connect to the plug in the bathroom that's between it and my SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2

sour shadow
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You also should for Xiaomi's Zigbee 1.2 devices, since they're known to be weird

harsh mango
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because something isn't right.

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idk that I have any xiaomi

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is there a way to change the pathing without rejoining the device and breaking all the automation?

sour shadow
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Re-joining won't break anything

grim igloo
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I’m broken inside does that count?

harsh mango
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hmm, yeah, everything seems to be connected directly to the dongle

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I think I'm going to wait until I finish my proxmox HA project and migrate HA to docker before I go about reconnecting everything.

tough trout
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Thank you. Would a copy of the same quirk, but modified override the existing?

narrow raptor
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Hello, first time messaging. I have been using HA and zigbee for a few months now. I have a TI Sonoff 3.0 and a few temp and motion sensors from aqara and a few door sensors as well. I have recently updated to OS 11 and it caused my system to crash and I had to restore a backup. Once I restored only about half of my zigbee network resored and I cannot reconnect to the others. I have deleted the entities in an attempt to readd them however when I try to readd a motion sensor by holding the button and adding new zigbee device there is no reaction on the system. I am at my witts end, is there anything else I can do to help debug or resolve the issue? Also I am using ZHA integration

mellow geode
tough trout
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That’s great. I do not see the prefix, so it must be applying. Thank you so much.

mellow geode
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Just curious, what's the issue with your fan?

tidal dove
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Hi, I have 2 lights in a single lamp that sometimes refuse to work. There should be enough other lights nearby for stable mesh. LQI is 150. Any ideas how I would go about diagnosing this? Using Z2M. Any help is much appreciated!

fiery veldt
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Did you ever figure it out?

prime owl
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Is there a database or list where I can look up what kind of device type a the product is? End device, router or coordinator. Or is that already somewhere on zigbee.Blakadder.com or zigbee2mqtt.io and I'm just not seeing it?

violet dagger
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all mains powered devices are routers as a rule unless they aren't like Sengled bulbs

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coordinators are coordinators, they cannot be other devices unless you change the firmware

prime owl
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Thanks, that was fast. I am thinking about getting some aqara e1 light switches and read somewhere that those are not acting as routers

violet dagger
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only the ones with no neutral which isn't mains powered

sour shadow
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Sengled bulbs, no-neutral switches and dimmers, and the Aqara FP1 aren't routers - other mains powered will/should be

prime owl
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Thanks

crystal stratus
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I have maxed my 50 items on hue hub today I was wondering is there a better zigbee bridge or should I keep buying hue? Also there are a bunch of firmwares going around for these Zigbee2Mqtt, Zigbee2Tasmota is there a go to one? Is the stock good?

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I was considering the Tasmota just to maintain the “stack” since all my physical switches are flashes with tasmota now

sour shadow
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Don't use the Tasmota one 😉

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Z2M or ZHA are the better options

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(Z2M for me, I like my decoupling)

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Just by a decent supported coordinator (not the Sonoff-P)

crystal stratus
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Also just wondering if it was possible to do inspections of the zigbee network. I saw this video a while back on zigbee protocol and the guy used some software to see all the devices on the network the coordinators routers etc and it showed the signal strength. If possible I want to see that for my stuff my Hue Dimmer Switch V1 batteries die too fast and posts suggests its either a bad connection or bad batteries

latent hatch
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Ok so i'm looking for what to choose for a zigbee relay module, i had considered the zbmini l2 from sonoff but the fact it's an end device is a no go since i need to cover the entire house with them. i was looking into other sonoff's but the otherzigbee one they have supports only rocker switches, while i'd prefer to use momentary buttons so i can wire multiple of them.
so basically my requisites are zigbee router relay that supports momentary switches. is there any good brand module with these characteristics?

sour shadow
latent hatch
rapid dawnBOT
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For Zigbee2MQTT any CC2652p (or CC2652) based stick is a good choice. Those are also a good choice for ZHA, which also supports the EmberZNet sticks (see here for some details). Don't pick the cheap CC2530/CC2531 sticks, and avoid the Sonoff Zigbee bridge since Zigbee and WiFi aren't friends. If you're not using deCONZ avoid the ConBee and RaspBee devices.

sour shadow
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Depends on whether you're using ZHA or Z2M

latent hatch
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right now i'm planning and testing but i think i'm liking z2m better

sour shadow
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Then CC2652 based

latent hatch
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thanks

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what's teh actual advantage of using one of those instead of the sonoff-p which i have now?

sour shadow
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They don't suck?

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The P has known problems with the hardware

latent hatch
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well
glad to know ahahah, so they're known to be problematic?

latent hatch
crystal stratus
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I will be sad to let the sick Hue app go though

sour shadow
crystal stratus
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You have the solution to everything xD

sour shadow
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I've been here long enough to remember about 10% of what goes on 😛

crystal stratus
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Well let me trouble you with this would you also happen to know how to get the white/yellow color wheel in HA like it exists on the Hue app

sour shadow
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You mean for the white temperature?

crystal stratus
sour shadow
crystal stratus
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Ok I think I am going blind

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Thanks a ton I really appreciate it

latent hatch
sour shadow
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You just need people who can answer the question to be online

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And maybe to mention your country

latent hatch
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oh sure, i'm in italy so it's gonna need 230v, i can buy whatever off aliexpress

crystal stratus
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@sour shadow sorry to be a Pain but would you also happen to know about 433Mhz devices?

sour shadow
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You realise you can just ask the (right) channel a question and then anybody could answer?

sudden yarrow
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433MHz is not Zigbee

crystal stratus
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I know

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Can you point me to the right channel for it I will just post the question there

sudden yarrow
crystal stratus
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Thanks

dire owl
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Hey guys my zigbee network went down again with this "lost serial connection" message, reloading ZHA and rebooting HA core did nothing. I had to unplug the USB and plug it back in. Why does this happen? Skyconnect/multi-pan/HAOS-RPi/ZHA

jovial lion
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Far as I can tell they did a failed update for the zha integration, and reverted it back quickly...but the usb hub device needs to physically power off (or unplugged) to initialize again...

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Its a very finicky integration...thats for sure

austere patio
jovial lion
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well update 1023.10.4 broke ZHA and thats confirmed...

austere patio
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That was unrelated to multi-PAN

jovial lion
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Silicon labs supporting a 20 dollar device...I doubt it

dire owl
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@jovial lion I've had these lost serial connection issues for a while now, its not new for me, usally it recoveres itself, but on rare occassions, it does not like it did above and I have to take action.

austere patio
winged coyote
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Hey all, I'm hoping someone can help me with an issue I'm having with my Zigbee controller. I'll try to be as brief as possible

  • I have a Conbee II USB stick for the controller
  • It was previously plugged into a Raspberry Pi running HASS, and I was able to get it to work with Zigbee2MQTT
  • I'm transitioning to a VM on a Proxmox server, running HASS OS
  • I've installed Mosquito and Zigbee2MQTT on the new server
  • I've plugged the USB into the server and done USB Passthrough. The device seems to be recognized by the HASS VM
  • I've tried setting the serial in the Z2MQTT config to /dev/ttyACM0 which is what worked on my previous setup, and I've also tried putting in the full path, which includes usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2475988-if00 but I still get the same timeout error.

Anyone have any suggestions? I'm at a loss here

real lagoon
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I was getting a timeout error on that recently as well after upgrading to the most recent firmware. downgraded to the release before that and the timeout went away.

sour shadow
winged coyote
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So I did try it with a USB Extension cable and still didn't work, but I'll try messing with the firmware and see if that helps!

sour shadow
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Newer ConBee firmware doesn't play well with Zigbee2MQTT

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The Z2M docs on the ConBee mention this

oak condor
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I posted this question about a week ago and didn't get a response...thought maybe it was too late at night. So, I'm posting for reconsideration. I do updates on Monday of each week for the past couple of weeks I've had a couple of zigbee devices go haywire. After I do my updates and the server restarts one of my Singled bulbs and a Third Reality Button (which is set up via automation to on/off the Singled bulb also both in the same room) don't work for about a day. For example, after the server restarted today those devices don't work. They show up in the UI but HA can't turn the bulb on/off (but Alexa can!). Then, in about 24 hours the combination works just fine. How can I go about troubleshooting this. Zigbee2MQTT. Thanks in advance!

swift frigate
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how to reset a sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle to pair again with home assistant

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i am switching from zha docker to zigbee2mqtt home assistant as it has more features (mainly because it supports a prescense sensor)

desert owl
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Ok, so I think I was able to make the ZBDongle-e to work and set it to channel 25 in ZHA, but I still need to add my other ZBDongle-e as an extension/router... I already flashed it with Z3RouterUSBDonlge_EZNet6.10.3_V1.0.0.gbl but I can't add it as a device in my network it simply does not appear when looking for new devices. Do you guys know if there a specific step to pair a ZBDongle-e router?

small finch
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Hi. i think im at the right place regarding Zigbee2MQTT, i get a error message saying Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0'

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i have changed from a RPi to a laptop and now using ProxMox

ashen bluff
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More context needed. Make sure the coordinator is passed through to the VM and you use a /dev/serial/by-id/ path

small finch
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OK. i just looked in Proxmox and now added USB " Use USB Vendor/Device ID " and added my Conbee adapter

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shall try restarting the session now

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UP N RUNNING, thanks guys. im a bit tired now

swift frigate
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im jealous

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cant get it to work at all

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NEVERMIND THE MAGIC SYSTEM RESTART MADE IT WORK 😄

lean belfry
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Hmm. Gledopto rgb controller won't reset

sour shadow
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They're very fussy about getting your timing spot on

lean belfry
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So ive seen

sour shadow
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One of mine I gave up on, but the Pro unit hasn't ever been a problem (all two times I've reset it)

lean belfry
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Doesn't help that its connected to like a meanwell psu

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Tried everything

narrow raptor
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Hello, I am having an issue with my zha integration. I have a few aqara motion,temp, and door sensors. I updated to os 11 and my system crashed, I restored and got it up and running again however about half the devices do not reconnect. I have tried deleting the entities and re adding them but no matter what I do it is not re adding the lost sensors. I have about 8 that are working without issue and about 7 that are no longer working. I use the sonoff 3.0 coordinator.

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I think it happened around 10.2 so I am not sure if it is the same issue posted above with the 10.4. I recently updated it to that and my 8 devices still work and there is no change but the 7 ohters (2 motion sensors, 4 temp sensors and 1 door sensor) still do not work

swift frigate
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i have a zy-m100 presence sensor but its presence doesnt get updated as its stuck on away

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however the presence state does get updated (moving, present,none)

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how do i update the firmware or something to get presence sensor to update so i can automate ite

austere patio
snow roost
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then try pairing

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if you have any zigbee routers turn them off for troubleshooting

narrow raptor
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I waited about a day, I have power cycled a few times and currently do not have any more routers. Do I need to power cycle for an extended period like 30 min or something?

snow roost
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shouldn't require any waiting

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what kind of dongle is it

narrow raptor
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ZNP = Texas Instruments Z-Stack ZNP protocol: CC253x, CC26x2, CC13x2
by ZHA
Sonoff 3.0 I got on amazon

snow roost
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no idea how to reset that one

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see if you can manage the dongle with zigpy

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the zigpy reset command might work

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yeah zigpy supports managing that dongle, it's the znp

narrow raptor
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hmm I will look into it and try to give it a try

narrow raptor
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Looks like that worked and I am able to re add them again thanks!

snow roost
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im surprised that work tbqh

rough raven
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Hey folks, I'm new here.
i've installed the Mosquitto broker from the addon store. Then, I click configure on the MQTT integration and get Failed to connect.
Any help would be appreciated!

latent hatch
rough raven
latent hatch
rough raven
latent hatch
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shoudl be ha core

rough raven
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Nothing is being generated under HA core. but a bunch of stuff under Supervisor, and host

sour shadow
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Did you start the add-on?

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Just installing the add-on isn't enough, you need it to be started (running)

rough raven
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Yes, I had clicked start before sending you the log

sour shadow
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[00:27:42] INFO: Successfully send discovery information to Home Assistant.
``` suggests that MQTT is already set up in HA
rough raven
sour shadow
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Keep it in the channels, that's why they exist

rough raven
sour shadow
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Configure it?

rough raven
wintry musk
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hi all,
Im looking into a zigbee controller dongle and found the sonoff ones. Now im wondering which one to buy. I see the ZBDongle-E and the ZBDongle-P. But which one is better?

rough raven
sour shadow
sour shadow
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Try installing MQTT Explorer on your laptop/whatever, and see if you can connect to your broker

rough raven
sour shadow
wintry musk
sour shadow
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Older

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For Zigbee2MQTT you want something CC2652 based, like the P, but not the P 😉

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For ZHA, either EZSP or CC2652 based

rough raven
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I am able to connect from MQTT Explorer.
My Mosquitto Broker logs say New connection from <xxxxxxx> on port 1883. Client <unknown> closed its connection.

sour shadow
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Ok, then we can troubleshoot your MQTT integration

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It should auto-set up, that's kind of the point of the way HAOS and the add-ons work, but I've seen a few people with your problem

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Manually pointing it at core-mosquitto may work, or you may need to enter a username and password (any valid HA user will work)

rough raven
sour shadow
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ZHA has nothing to do with MQTT

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That's like saying that you've cleaned out the coffee cup so the car should start without problems

wintry musk
sour shadow
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You've read the pinned messages?

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You've got a practical range of maybe 6 to 8 meters from the stick to the first router device, your bulb needs to be that close, or you need to have some (Zigbee) routers

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You need a USB extension cable

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etc etc

wintry musk
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oh really? My home server is a bit further away then 6m to the room i want to place some smart lights.

sour shadow
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Then you need some router devices

wintry musk
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any suggestions?

sour shadow
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Innr plugs

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Depending on where in the world you are

wintry musk
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Or.... i got a rpi with pihole running in that area. Is it possible to stick the dongle in the rpi and reach it with my ha?

wintry musk
sour shadow
wintry musk
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hmz, looking at that innr plug. I got a Shelly plug S since a while. Does that work too?

sour shadow
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is that a Zigbee plug?

wintry musk
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idk xD

sour shadow
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Well... then idk too

wintry musk
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googled it: those devices are hub free

sour shadow
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Then probably not Zigbee

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(aka WiFi)

wintry musk
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but as i understand those zigbee devices need to form their own sort of wifi (mesh) network to operate and cover larger areas? So every device that supports zigbee also functions as a extension of that?

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Or only some devices like plugs and not lights alone?

sour shadow
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Yes

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Please read the top pinned message

wintry musk
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ill go do that 🙂

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Thnx

rough raven
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I see the same Failed to connect.
Interestingly though, under the supervisor logs, I see ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.services.modules.mqtt] There is already a MQTT service in use from core_mosquitto

sour shadow
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You've looked at the list of already configured integrations?

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The #integrations-archived channel may be better able to help you with this, you'll find more people who know the MQTT integration over there than in here

rough raven
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I will try my luck there!
Thank you for all your help thus far 🙏

hot fable
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Hey guys, I just got a sky connect and now need to find some sensors to use with it

I definitely want some door sensors - I've heard good things about the aqara door sensors and was wondering if that's still the recommended option or if there's something better?

orchid galleon
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Some of these zigbee devices are giving me no end of issues

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Managed to get the device to rejoin, worked perfectly for about a minute, and now is unresponsive

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been fine for over a year, no network changes and then all of a sudden, problelms

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wtf, and now they're randomly working again

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I thought i saw a tool to scan for the best zigbee network, but cant find it now. Anyone got any pointers?.

sour shadow
hot fable
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Are routers the mid points?

sour shadow
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Read the top pinned message

hot fable
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Ok, read it and it makes sense

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Cool, so I just need to find some routers that will work in Aus

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Hey cool, Ikea has a zigbee repeater that's a normal plug on one end and a usb on the other! Great way to extend AND charge my phone!

foggy copper
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General question :
Is there good zigbee deals for black friday ?
like on Ali ?
or Eu shops ?

violet dagger
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general answer: yes

void sandal
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I got two IKEA Tradfri shortcut buttons. They are placed 15 cm from eachother. One is controlling a Aquara plug, the other one is controlling three IKEA Tradfri bulbs. I have used a blueprint to make the automations. I am running with ZHA. The funny part (not) is that the button controlling the light bulbs randomly (almost every time) turns on the Aquara plug) and If I double press quickly it turns off the plug again (not programmed like that). The other button is set up to turn on/off the Aquara plug by toggling the button, and this button does only that. Have anybody else experienced that a IKEA shortcut button is turning on something it is not programmed to turn on. If so have anyone found any ways to solve the problem?

winged coyote
# winged coyote Hey all, I'm hoping someone can help me with an issue I'm having with my Zigbee ...

OK, going to come back to this because I've been at it for days now and still can't get it to work.

After posting the other day I flashed the firmware to the recommended version, I'm still getting the timeout error.

HASS definitely sees the stick because it shows up when I run lsusb and it has read/write permissions. All my devices show up when I use ZHA, but I keep getting this error in Z2MQTT. Anyone else run into this?

winged coyote
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Update. I'm an idiot.

I spent literal days going through the troubleshooting and guide, and somehow missed a troubleshooting tip that told me to add

adapter: deconz to my config. I added that and nwo it's working

latent hatch
sour shadow
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Aqara? Not sure if they support momentary, but that'll be documented

winged coyote
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OK next step quick question because I don't see any documentation/guides on it, and I want to make sure I don't mess something up.

Transitioning from the old server to my new one, can I just unplug the dongle, plug it into the new one, and copy over the zigbee config file?

I tried deleting a device (Hue bulb) and now I'm having trouble getting it back into pairing mode, so I'm wondering if I can just copy the rest over

sour shadow
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On Z2M, not ZHA?

winged coyote
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Yes, Z2M

sour shadow
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Then you have to copy over all the stuff in the Z2M config folder, except the logs

winged coyote
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Gotcha. OK so configuration.yaml, databases.db, and state.json. I'll try that, thanks!

sour shadow
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Plus any other files, plus if you're using add-ons you need to clone the add-on config

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(the add-on splits the config for Z2M between the files and the UI)

winged coyote
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Hmm OK yeah maybe it's best I don't try to mess with that and just reset everything manually lol

latent hatch
sour shadow
latent hatch
snow roost
snow roost
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look for firmware updates for your dongle. for the sonoffs there are flash methods that don't require taking the case off

austere patio
snow roost
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cool didn't know that i'm ZHAless 😂

quick willow
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Has anyone had any luck using a ADT Smarthings (zigbee) Carbon Monoxide Alarm White - F-ADT-CO-1 with zigbee2mqtt? I am looking for a zigbee smoke detector for my Kitchen that doesn break the bank and these see to be pretty inexpensive off of eBay.

astral seal
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I mean that's not a smoke detector, it's carbon monoxide, but for $20 it's worth a try

astral seal
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The smoke detector from the same line is F-ADT-SMK-1

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Also cheap on eBay, but I can't find anything on people using them with ZHA or Z2M

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If you're lucky, it'll just work, but my guess is that if it doesn't it probably intentionally doesn't follow the Zigbee specs in ways that are intended to make it not work without the ADT branded Smartthings hub and would need a little work to work with z2m or ZHA.

hot fable
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Hey guys, I'm looking at getting some of the aqara door sensors for my sky connect and just want to be sure in getting the right version before I buy

Is it this one? I can't see any model number and there's so many listings that I can't tell for sure? https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005004725628121.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.102e6717DImUro&browser_id=dbdf2b24044048368e6ec802774c08b8&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=dbdfbeeccb18b64b41d16f96dcf5183a16a501a2c5&pdp_npi=4%40dis!AUD!42.76!30.79!!!26.72!!%402103228816982016074214747ecbaa!12000033961135915!sea!AU!2798627282!&algo_pvid=44620391-2566-4b01-9cdc-9a003b5edaa3

quick willow
mellow geode
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E1, T1 models are newer and also work with ZHA.
Every sensor except the P1 door sensor should be fine. If you get the P1, it would be easy to add a quirk though

hot fable
mellow geode
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I can’t open the listing rn (without a VPN), so idk

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Does it have a model number somewhere?

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Got it now, seems to be the (old) standard model

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It’s fine

hot fable
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I couldn't see a model number on the listing

hot fable
mellow geode
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No, there is the old/standard (Zigbee 1.2) model. Then, there’s a newer T1 and E1 model.
All those three look the same

hot fable
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Well that's not confusing at all 😛

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So should I be looking for the e1/t1 versions instead? Is there much of a difference? These are my first zigbee devices so I'm not 100% sure about it all

mellow geode
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It probably doesn’t matter. The newer models are a bit better when their parent becomes unavailable.

hot fable
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How do I tell the new models apart though if they look the same and don't have a model number on the listing?

molten linden
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You can try searching ali for aqara e1 to maybe get some listings actually selling those.

hot fable
mellow geode
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That looks like the old/normal model

hot fable
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Ach, I thought because it said it's the global version it was the e1

mellow geode
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Global is the "old variant"

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E1 is supposed to be China only (but newer)

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T1 was initially China only too, but a slightly updated T1 is now rolled out to Europe

hot fable
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Boo for being confusing

astral seal
fluid shard
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Hi Guys, my name is Eric. I'm a dev @ dresden elektronik and i am tasked with integrating the ConBee III into the zigpy-deconz plugin.

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The issue right now is, that the current deconz implemententation of zigPy assumes a baudrate of 38400, but the Conbee III is running on a 115200 Baudrate

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I copied the implementation of zigpy-xbee so that a baudrate can be supplied via the config file.

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But i am quite a newbie when it comes to python development (mainly a C programmer myself) and i am having truble setting up a testbuild to test my changes

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could someone have a look if what i am doing makes sense, and maybe help me set up a dev env

last token
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Hi everyone, I have a question, yesterday I have search and try a lot of thing but nothing works so, i would like to know if somebody can help me to setup a PiZigate+ V2 on a Raspberry Pi 4 ?
I've follow the documentation but there is no directory name "/boot" for made the modification that are needed : https://zigate.fr/documentation/compatibilite-raspberry-pi-4-b/
I've tried to go to "integration" and add ZHA, I tried to connect vian the /dev/ttyAMA0 but it's not working ...

wintry musk
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hi all,
Someone told me in here that in order to get zigbee lights to work from a greater distance i need routers in between. He advised the inrr plugs.
Now i want to order some more stuff at once and was wondering if there is a particular brand of light bulbs that has your preference when it comes to zigbee supported smart light bulbs?

sour shadow
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As always... what you can buy depends on your country

hot fable
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Hey guys, quick sanity check but apparently the aqara e1 door sensor was made for use in the Chinese market - I assume if we go with sky connect through ha that I don't need to care about that?

mellow geode
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Yeah, it’ll work fine with that everywhere

sour shadow
hot fable
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Awesome, I thought so from what I've heard about zigbee but a lot of posts online were saying otherwise!

sour shadow
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There are sometimes compatibility issues, but they're rare

hot fable
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With the zigbee hub?

sour shadow
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Coordinator, but yes

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Usually with the ConBee or TI coordinators, needing a particular firmware version

hot fable
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Ah fair enough

sour shadow
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Some devices don't like TI coordinators (Terncy), and some only work on the ZLL channels (11, 15, 20, 25)

wintry musk
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Most common lights i see are hue, innr, eria, gledopto, woox, prolight, rextech, Eglo

astral seal
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Hue good but the most expensive, Innr good, Gledopto good, those are the ones I recognize.

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I'm gonna hazard a guess that maybe two of those are Tuya white label stuff.

wintry musk
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what is tuya white label stuff?

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and thnx for the advise! 🙂

sour shadow
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Tuya sell cloud services, and firmware, to hundreds/thousands of companies, probably also design specs based off of how often you see identical hardware with a different logo

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Tuya stuff is often cheap and nasty, though some can actually be pretty good

wintry musk
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ah oke

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I see its listed on the website. Woox is Tuya.

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hue, innr, eria en gledopto aren't

peak gazelle
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Hi, I have a TuYa TS0011_switch_module that refuses to join. I've installed the included resistor and the devices behind it power on fine now, and when I long-press the reset button the switch blinks once, but doesn't join or anything. Any ideas why that might happen? I've tried placing a working zigbee power socket really close to it to see if that helps but to no avail

somber river
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I'm trying to follow this guide to set up HA and a Sonoff Zigbee Dongle P on Ubuntu 22 https://medium.com/geekculture/home-assistant-docker-zigbee2mqtt-3d8e0ba02d10
Container seems to work, but the issue is that the folders created for mosquitto are locked with some permission access so I'm unable to create the config file there. Any pointers? My composer code is exactly the same as the examples, except for my folder locations being under user/documents

sour shadow
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They even managed to paste the YAML without formatting and with smart quotes

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So much for geek

somber river
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I removed the quotes and fixed the formatting at least :p

sour shadow
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The folders in your mosquitto volume are owned by user 1883, use sudo to access them and/or create a user with that UID

somber river
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any way to not have that happen at all? folder owner is listed with "user #101882" as owner if that has any relevance

sour shadow
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Well, it's designed to run that way

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Your option would be to run a different image, one that allowed you to specify the user, if that's what you want

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The occasional use of sudo shouldn't be a problem though

somber river
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I see, I'm new to linux as well but I'll give sudo a try

sour shadow
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Unless the image has an option to run as another user you just have to adapt

ashen bluff
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Just adding user: xyz to the compose file usually works. Other choices would be setfacl and other permission things

lean belfry
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Damn gledopto wont reset 🥹

sour shadow
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They're very fussy about timing

somber river
lean belfry
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@sour shadowhow would i time it? its connected to the outlet, with a meanwell psu inbetween

jaunty olive
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Hello all,

I have a strange problem with my ZHA integration. Since some days, a new light automatically pairs to my ZHA integration. I think it's one of my neighbors lights.
I'm wondering, how the light can connect to my ZHA zigbee network, without starting the pairing mode.

I already deleted the light some times, but it still reconnects.

Do anybody have a solution for my problem?

rare night
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Been having issues with my HUE bulbs recently, and upon logging into their app, I saw an announcement that they'll require creating accounts soon. So if I want to ditch them completely, does anyone have recommendations of zigbee bulbs (white-only and rgbw) that are reliable with HA? Is there a list that is maintained somewhere?

somber river
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I'm getting closer on my docker HA zigbee2mqt setup, but my zigbee2mqtt container wont run and prompts me with "no such file or directory" for the sonoff p-dongle I'm using. I've tired both /dev/ttyUSB0 and the complete path but neither works

astral seal
astral seal
somber river
sour shadow
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@Tinkererhow would i time it? its

sour shadow
somber river
sour shadow
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And you mapped the /dev/serial/... path? Or something else?

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Would help us to help you if you shared what you did 😉

rapid dawnBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

somber river
sour shadow
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Please share the Z2M config and compose file/Docker run command line

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Please also confirm that you've nothing else running that may use it - no ZHA in HA, and no Modem Manager installed

somber river
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aight, give me a sec

austere patio
somber river
jaunty olive
carmine hamlet
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The 'Conbee II' is your coordinator

mellow geode
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I wonder if it just doesn't get the "remove from network" request. So it never resets and joins again when it hears your network again

somber river
jaunty olive
austere patio
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Can you post a screenshot of what the light looks like if you go to its device page? Or post a link to its diagnostics JSON?

jaunty olive
austere patio
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Sure, feel post info about it here and feel free to tag me

mellow geode
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That's why it appears to re-join your network. It never actually left the network though (when you remove it).

lean belfry
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i got a unraid build with a vm running HA os . is there a way to update the firmware on the homeassistant skyconnect without unplugging the usb stick

austere patio
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Make sure to disable ZHA first

jaunty olive
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@austere patio Thank you, I'll do it

@mellow geode Thank you for the explanation 🙂

lean belfry
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@austere patiohow do i disable that?

austere patio
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Go to the list of integrations, find Zigbee Home Automation, click the cog icon, and disable the config entry from the drop-down

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Why do you want to upgrade the firmware?

lean belfry
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i shouldnt? thought it would not hurt

austere patio
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I meant if you're upgrading to try to solve a specific problem, or if you're just trying to get the latest version

lean belfry
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nah just trying to get latest version

peak gazelle
rare night
mellow geode
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What's the exact issue? Do they not respond sometimes? Can you download the device diagnostics file from the finicky bulbs and upload it here: https://dpaste.org/ then send the link?

wheat crest
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Hi all

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I have a rpi4 with sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle running homeassistant os. I added 11 zigbee devices without problems so far through the ZHA integration and have been controlling lights without any issues for a couple of days.
Now I want to add a remote: the Ikea E1743 on/off switch that usually ships with smart bulbs, with two buttons that you can also long press for dimming.
I paired it by pressing the pairing button four times, after which it shows up in home assistant. However, it doesn't show any entities and does not cause automations to run.

What can I do to find the problem?

sour shadow
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There's no problem, that's a remote and you just get events

wheat crest
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How can I check if I actually get events?

I made two automations: basically pressing the button should trigger an action. On the left, pushing the Lumi button triggers my roller blinds to go up/down and it works just fine. On the right, pushing the Ikea button should toggle a light, but this one does not ever trigger.
So that's why I think there actually is a problem...

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one sec. trying to send a screenshot

molten linden
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developer tool, events tab, in listen for events, put in zha_event then hit listen

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trigger the buttons and you should see events

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screen shots not gnerally allowed, use imgr or similar

wheat crest
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Ah ok, thx

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I tested it with the Aqara button and see the events when I listen for zha_events, but when I try it with the Ikea button I get nothing

mellow geode
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It likely didn't pair correctly. That seems to happen quite a bit with IKEA remotes.

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Start a reconfiguration from the UI on the device page, then continue pressing a button on the remote whilst starting the reconfiguration.

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The reconfiguration UI should show green checkmarks for most clusters/attributes

wheat crest
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I tried that a few times already, but only get green checks for binding, reporting. In the table with cluster/binding/reporting I don't get any green checks, only orange x in many cells...

mellow geode
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Hmm. The sensor likely doesn't receive the messages then

wheat crest
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I just added two other Ikea remotes, type 1766. They look exactly the same except for the icons for on/off are replaced with open/close. They work just fine 🧐

mellow geode
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They might be on different firmware

young solar
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Trying to add my Tubes Zigbee Network Controller
Instructions say to use ZHA, manual, EZSP

Then my ip is:
socket://192.168.1.169:6638

And says to use:
Port Speed 115200
Software Flow
When I try to add it home assistant pops up and says restore a network or create a new one.. I click create a new one and it just pops up and says error

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Update: I rebooted both the zigbee device and Home assistant. This time when I opened home assistant it was auto configured. I clicked on create new network and got the same error message. 😕

mellow geode
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There might be some more information in the logs (home-assistant.log)

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Also, what HA version are you running?

young solar
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already checked logs

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nothing there

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Home Assistant 2023.10.5

mellow geode
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Log output should contain more information. Feel free to DM it to me if you can't see anything obvious

young solar
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It just wont even try to connect now

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2023-10-25 17:01:41.334 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.serial] Using pyserial-asyncio-fast in place of pyserial-asyncio

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is the only thinkg I see, and not even sure if zigpy is zigbee lol

wheat crest
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I found four of those square Ikea remotes in my home 🙂

  1. Type 1766 - Firmware: 0x23079631 - Very responsive, always works
  2. Type 1766 - Firmware: 0x23079631 - Not very responsive, but sometimes it works
  3. Type 1743 - Doesnt say anything about firmware at device info -
  4. Type 1743- 0x23079631

Apparently they run the same firmware, so the difference between the types really is only the icon/appearance. But since (1) is very responsive and (4) is never responding and they are on the same firmware, that probably isn't the root cause...

young solar
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Heres is the log I got if anyone is good with zigbee cordinators

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2023-10-25 17:12:53.397 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.device] [0x0000] Got Node Descriptor: NodeDescriptor(logical_type=<LogicalType.Coordinator: 0>, complex_descriptor_available=0, user_descriptor_available=0, reserved=0, aps_flags=0, frequency_band=<FrequencyBand.Freq2400MHz: 8>, mac_capability_flags=<MACCapabilityFlags.AlternatePanCoordinator|FullFunctionDevice|MainsPowered|RxOnWhenIdle|AllocateAddress: 143>, manufacturer_code=43981, maximum_buffer_size=82, maximum_incoming_transfer_size=128, server_mask=11329, maximum_outgoing_transfer_size=128, descriptor_capability_field=<DescriptorCapability.NONE: 0>, *allocate_address=True, *is_alternate_pan_coordinator=True, *is_coordinator=True, *is_end_device=False, *is_full_function_device=True, *is_mains_powered=True, *is_receiver_on_when_idle=True, *is_router=False, *is_security_capable=False)
2023-10-25 17:12:53.399 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.device] [0x0000] Already have endpoints: {0: <zigpy.zdo.ZDO object at 0x7f62424b10>, 1: <EZSPEndpoint id=1 in=[] out=[] status=<Status.NEW: 0>>}
2023-10-25 17:12:53.399 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.device] [0x0000] Initializing endpoints [<EZSPEndpoint id=1 in=[] out=[] status=<Status.NEW: 0>>]
2023-10-25 17:12:53.400 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.endpoint] [0x0000:1] Discovering endpoint information
2023-10-25 17:12:53.469 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.device] [0x0000] Already have model and manufacturer info
2023-10-25 17:12:53.470 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.device] [0x0000] Discovered basic device information for <Device model='EZSP' manuf='Silicon Labs' nwk=0x0000 ieee=68:0a:e2:ff:fe:8d:84:be is_initialized=True>
2023-10-25 17:12:59.905 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.util] Optimal channel is 25```
mellow geode
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(You'll need to press a button whilst doing so)

wheat crest
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I found something at manage device -> clusters -> OTA -> commands, but ota_notify is not in that list

mellow geode
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image notify

wheat crest
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Would it be a good idee to install Zigbee2mqtt next to ZHA and use both at the same time? Maybe the remotes work better with Zigbee2mqtt ?

ashen bluff
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If you have multiple coordinators and are careful about the channels it's possible

mellow geode
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You'd need two coordinators for that. For now, I would try to get it working with ZHA. The remotes are supported

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It's just likely they aren't configured/paired correctly (not bound)

wheat crest
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Yes, image_notify is there, but asks for a manufacturer_code, image_type and new_file_version

mellow geode
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You should still be able to press the "send command" button. Or just enter 0 and so on in the fields. Should be fine

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Whilst pressing the button in the UI, press a button on the remote, so it can wake up and receive the command

wheat crest
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I do actually have a spare CC2531 stick with Z-stack firmware which I was using before the Sonoff Zigbee 3.0, but using two sticks is not really the most elegant solution. Also I'm not sure if I have any usb ports left on this raspbery

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I'll try, thx

mellow geode
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Otherwise, for the remotes that aren't working, can you put in a fresh battery and then allow joins in HA and just re-pair them? (press button four times quickly)

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Make sure your coordinator is away from interference sources (like WiFi APs, metal, USB 3.0 devices, SSDs, Bluetooth devices, ..)

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It's basically required to have it on a USB extension cable

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Otherwise, messages can get lost and that could be why some remotes aren't pairing correctly

wheat crest
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Hmm yeah I just put in a battery fresh from a pack that I bought last week. Also the coordinator is on an extension cable, although it's quite near my chromecast and speaker with wifi, so maybe there is still too much interference. Maybe I need to switch the wifi to a different channel too then.

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Thanks for your help. Going to bed now

mellow geode
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If you download the diagnostics file for the ZHA integration, you can see all interference levels on the different Zigbee channels at the bottom of the file.

austere patio
young solar
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Beta 2023.11.0b0

austere patio
young solar
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I’m sorry disregard

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Got this mixed up with another Channel

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Updating to the beta fixed the issue 🙂

sharp cave
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I updated my sonoff zigbee coordinator and now all my zigbee devices show up... as offline

sharp cave
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Seems like it fixed itself after about 2 hours

somber river
sour shadow
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Yeah... you need to read up on compose files 😉

# 
    devices:
      - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_ae56619dd312ec11bc5723c7bd930c07-if00-port0:/dev/ttyUSB0
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That maps /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_ae56619dd312ec11bc5723c7bd930c07-if00-port0 on the host to /dev/ttyUSB0 in the container

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serial:
  port: /dev/ttyUSB0
``` would be your Z2M config
somber river
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so the problem arises when it tries to read that path on the host

sour shadow
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Then time to pop open a shell in the container to see if the device is mapped

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docker exec -it [container-id] bash
ashen bluff
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Might be tricky entering it as the container will likely restart

somber river
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the container isn't running tho, cause it gets a startup error on the device path

sour shadow
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What's the exact error you're getting now?

somber river
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I'm using docker desktop so when I try to restart the container there I get
"Error: (HTTP code 500) server error - error gathering device information while adding custom device "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_ae56619dd312ec11bc5723c7bd930c07-if00-port0": no such file or directory"

when I run the compose file from the terminal I get a similar one there: Error response from daemon: error gathering device information while adding custom device "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_ae56619dd312ec11bc5723c7bd930c07-if00-port0": no such file or directory

sour shadow
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Well... that's still not using the right path

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So... doesn't look like you updated anything 😉

somber river
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hmm, must be something I'm missing cause the files are set up exactly as you wrote it there

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where should my configuration file be? same location as the compose file?

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if I understood the guide correctly I was to put it the compose file in /Docker and config in /Docker/zigbee2mqtt-data.

sour shadow
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No, the config file goes in the Z2M folder

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/home/eirik/Documents/Docker/zigbee2mqtt-data
somber river
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hmm, perhaps I'm doing something wrong in running it. I've opened /Docker in terminal and ran docker compose up -d

sour shadow
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Well, your files aren't in /Docker but /home/eirik/Documents/Docker

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Also make sure that you stopped the Z2M container

somber river
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I'm on dekstop ubuntu, so I'm in that folder yeah, I go there by navigating to the folder and choosing open in terminal

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just wanted to shorten it while explaining :p

somber river
sour shadow
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Something went wrong, because it's still using the old config

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Please share (again) the current config for both compose and Z2M

somber river
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aight, one sec

ashen bluff
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Just run it without -d so you can CTRL+C to stop it and also see immediately what happens

somber river
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[+] Running 3/3
 ✔ Network docker_default  Created                                         0.0s 
 ✔ Container zigbee2mqtt   Created                                         0.1s 
 ✔ Container mqtt          Created                                         0.1s 
Attaching to mqtt, zigbee2mqtt
mqtt         | 1698315558: mosquitto version 2.0.18 starting
mqtt         | 1698315558: Config loaded from /mosquitto-no-auth.conf.
mqtt         | 1698315558: Opening ipv4 listen socket on port 1883.
mqtt         | 1698315558: Opening ipv6 listen socket on port 1883.
mqtt         | 1698315558: mosquitto version 2.0.18 running
Error response from daemon: error gathering device information while adding custom device "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_ae56619dd312ec11bc5723c7bd930c07-if00-port0": no such file or directory```
ashen bluff
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Can you run

grep -sRi serial /home/eirik/Documents/Docker/zigbee2mqtt-data
sour shadow
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Z2M is still looking at a file other than the one you shared

somber river
ashen bluff
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Try this then or change serial to ITead

cat /home/eirik/Documents/Docker/zigbee2mqtt-data/configuration.yaml

The idea was to find where it's referenced

somber river
somber river
ashen bluff
somber river
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ahh, that didn't return anything

somber river
# ashen bluff In my last command: <https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/55184365568...

That returned the config file ```eirik@eirik-server:~$ cat /home/eirik/Documents/Docker/zigbee2mqtt-data/configuration.yaml

Let new devices join our zigbee network

permit_join: true

Docker Compose makes the MQTT-Server available using "mqtt" hostname

mqtt:
base_topic: zigbee2mqtt
server: mqtt://mqtt

Zigbee Adapter path

serial:
port: /dev/ttyUSB0

Enable the Zigbee2MQTT frontend

frontend:
port: 8080

Let Zigbee2MQTT generate a new network key on first start

advanced:
network_key: GENERATE```

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does the information here tell me anything useful? my user is a member of the dialout group at least, but not sure if the information for the serial path tells me anything new

crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 188, 0 okt.  26 11:28 /dev/ttyUSB0```
```eirik@eirik-server:~$ ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_ae56619dd312ec11bc5723c7bd930c07-if00-port0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 okt.  26 11:28 /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_ae56619dd312ec11bc5723c7bd930c07-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB0```
sour shadow
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Z2M runs as root so it has access to the device, but for some reason your config file isn't being read

somber river
sour shadow
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Then... you're messing up the basics, because that entry won't start Z2M

sour shadow
somber river
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I edited the z2m entry to match what you linked, ran the command as you wrote it and the response in terminal is exactly the same as before

somber river
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pretty close to just giving up and trying to set up HA OS on a virtual machine instead :p

sour shadow
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It's odd, because when I map a device that doesn't exist Docker throws an error, but I've also never had it not read the config file

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But also, when I make that change, I get an ls from /dev

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 ✔ Container zigbee2mqtt  Recreated                                                                                                                                                                   0.0s
Attaching to zigbee2mqtt
zigbee2mqtt  | total 0
zigbee2mqtt  | lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root            11 Oct 26 11:49 core -> /proc/kcore
...
hardy furnace
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Having issues with Zigbee2MQTT set up. Trying to move over from ZHA and using a Sonoff Zigbee USB Dongle E, which I now see is experimental. I cannot get past

Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-10-26 12:43:06: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.33.1 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-10-26 12:43:06: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.19.0)
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-10-26 12:43:27: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-10-26 12:43:27: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-10-26 12:43:27: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-10-26 12:43:27: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-10-26 12:43:27: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
    at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:103:27)
    at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29)
    at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:60:27)
    at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:101:27)
    at start (/app/index.js:107:5)'
somber river
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yeah, I just get the error right after "attaching to zigbee2mqtt" so it just stops right there

hardy furnace
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My config is

socat:
  enabled: false
  master: pty,raw,echo=0,link=/tmp/ttyZ2M,mode=777
  slave: tcp-listen:8485,keepalive,nodelay,reuseaddr,keepidle=1,keepintvl=1,keepcnt=5
  options: "-d -d"
  log: false
  serial:
    adapter: ezsp
mqtt: {}
serial:
  port: /dev/ttyACM0 ```
sour shadow
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Read the adapter docs for Z2M

sour shadow
somber river
sour shadow
somber river
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if I open the compose file, I see the changed code

hardy furnace
somber river
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and it responds to other changes, like including HA or not etc

sour shadow
somber river
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and if I change the serial path to just /dev/ttyUSB0 it changes the error to match that path

sour shadow
# hardy furnace added that already 
socat:
  enabled: false
  master: pty,raw,echo=0,link=/tmp/ttyZ2M,mode=777
  slave: tcp-listen:8485,keepalive,nodelay,reuseaddr,keepidle=1,keepintvl=1,keepcnt=5
  options: "-d -d"
  log: false
  serial:
    adapter: ezsp

❌

# 
serial:
  port: /dev/ttyACM0 
  adapter: ezsp

Check_mark

hardy furnace
distant sable
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hi, trying to install z2m but failing on configuration. I run HAOS and installed Mosquito add-on and z2m-addon, everything is latest version. On saving the z2m config get a "Failed to save add-on configuration, Invalid dict for option ‘serial’ in Zigbee2MQTT (45df7312_zigbee2mqtt)."
My serial path is "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0" without the quotes.

Someone any ideas what goes wrong?

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

sour shadow
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Share an image of the add-on settings

distant sable
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mmm, seems to be something with the UI. Now that I use the yaml configuration is saves ok.
Now let's see if it will start up.

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It worked, sorry for bothering you. must have been a glitch somewhere.

sour shadow
solar dawn
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Hey All - I'm trying to figure out an issue - hoping someone can assist:

  1. I have MQTT setup for my network - I've got about ~30 routers/endpoints on a network.

My issue: I'm trying to connect an IKEA bulb: LED2003G10 to 2 AQARA Endpoints: WXKG11LM (1 button clicker) and RTCGQ11LM (motion detector).
It connects to the network and paired and found the connection. However - after I tinker with other connections - both endpoints don't stick around.

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Is there an issue with Ikea bulbs that it only connects to 1 Endpoint device?

small finch
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i yhave a lot of problems with my Zigbee2MQTT interface. electric meter stops syncing from Frient. says im using 3505W but its not hehe

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so its not reporting..

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Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-10-26 17:53:54: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload '{"message":"Publish 'get' 'pulse_configuration' to '0x0015bc001b0216a0' failed: 'Error: Read 0x0015bc001b0216a0/2

somber river
small finch
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i have done a backup reboot on my Proxmox VM, still no sign of working. in "map" there is no lines

topaz burrow
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Wondering peoples thoughts - right now I have a HUSBZB for both zwave and Zigbee connected to my home assistant device. I ordered a Sonoff Zigbee dongle-E. My devices are at max 30 feet from the dongle, it’s 3 feet from the computer and router. I have a very unstable network right now. Is it better to connect this Sonoff to my HA computer and migrate the coordinator over from HUSBZB or flash router software and place it somewhere in the house? I already have Sonoff S31 plus as routers and the network is still unstable.

mellow geode
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I’d use the Sonoff-E as the coordinator. Probably update the firmware before though. There’s some "Sonoff-E update page" that’s based on work for SkyConnect (but with -E firmware)

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The official Sonoff firmware is also fine, but there are some improvements in the newer (custom) firmware

sour shadow
grim igloo
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100% i've seen people move off sonoff plugs and magically problems go away

mellow geode
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Ah, @topaz burrow. If you're using ZHA with the Sonoff plugs, you should update to the current 2023.11.0 (b0 or b1) Home Assistant beta. There's was an issue that was fixed that caused the plugs to crash

topaz burrow
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Really?? Yes using ZHA and it’s always the devices connected to the plugs that keep dropping.

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I’m going to test the beta today. Tysm. If it doesn’t work out of curiosity, I ran out of usb ports on my mini pc. Big issue running a usb hub to connect the husbzb for zwave and Sonoff for Zigbee with 5 foot extension cables?

mellow geode
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You're using HA 2023.10.x at the moment?

topaz burrow
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Yeah I think .10.5 or the latest

mellow geode
topaz burrow
topaz burrow
mellow geode
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There are no way to change Zigbee routers to "not route" sadly. You can get rid of them or put them on another network (with Z2M for example).

sour shadow
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Buy something that doesn't suck is the only way

mellow geode
sour shadow
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Sadly pretty much everything Sonoff makes seems to have problems

mellow geode
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true lol

topaz burrow
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Really? Dang I clearly didn’t do my research I thought they were touted as the problem solvers of the Zigbee world lol

mellow geode
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Sonoff sensors are known to be problematic (don't update, badly calibrated, ...), but they don't break other devices at least. Sonoff plugs (and other mains-powered devices) also have a bad reputation for routing issues and so on

topaz burrow
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Honestly I could remove all the plugs and just move some wifi ones in instead. Have too many plugs cause I replaced them with the Sonoff thinking it’d make the network stronger.

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Will try the beta and if not then remove the plugs and if not I’ll just setup a new coordinator. Thank you both

astral seal
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Their sensors are not great, I have a couple of the temp/humidity sensors and the humidity function sucks and they have occasional connection issues, I won't touch their contact sensors and buttons because of the experience with those sensors and the overall bad rep, but I've got three of the S31 Lite ZB plugs and two zbmini-L2 switch modules and never had any problems with those. Ymmv I guess.

small finch
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lol and i have heard Sonoff is good stuff, atleastfrom sweden forums

topaz burrow
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Zigbee is finicky I guess. All the hate on wifi products but my wifi devices have been way more solid than my Zigbee. Too bad it uses so much power and can’t get door sensors that leverage wifi without massive batteries.

astral seal
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Most of the beef people have with WiFi products is the relative lack of local only options, whereas Zigbee is local by default.

astral seal
violet dagger
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I wonder if the new Sonoff presence sensor will cause routing issues

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I think the beef with wifi is using ISP routers that crap out on 15+ devices

drifting flare
violet dagger
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That's normal for wifi battery sensor, they need to connect to wifi first

drifting flare
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Yup, so, that's the reason for /my/ beef with WiFi products 🙂

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At least the battery powered ones

violet dagger
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That's called unrealistic expectations

drifting flare
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🤷‍♂️ I did say I bought it by mistake! For some reason the eBay listings were for Zigbee/WiFi and I had to choose the correct version as an option. (And I swear the listing I bought from was just wrongly listed and didn't even have the option)

astral seal
violet dagger
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Yes the wifi fear is still being spread

dire hedge
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Is it possible to use a second Zigbee USB on system for redundancy/fallback?

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Kind of screwed if my SkyConnect just dies one day

violet dagger
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No

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You have backups of the coordinator for that

dire hedge
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I have a feature request for HA/ZHA teams 🤤

violet dagger
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There's a forum section for that

dire hedge
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I was joking but I'll take a look

violet dagger
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I wasn't

dire hedge
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I installed one of those Jasco switches today, very nice quality

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Better than the Leviton dimmer I removed

austere patio
violet dagger
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give it time

drifting flare
leaden spear
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any good advice on updating the firmware on IKEA FYRTUR? I have managed to get to 50.5% once, but all attempts so far have aborted. I am using ZHA. Is the firmware update process more robust with mqtt2zigbee or IKEAs own gateway?

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Got the itead dongle with the C26something chipset, latest coordinator firmware

drifting flare
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I've always found it frustratingly slow and unpredictable. With the IKEA Tradfri gateway I just needed to let it get on with things, and it would happen "eventually"

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My experience is mainly with the endpoint controller/button type devices

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With Z2M, there is at least UI to control starting the process, but with battery devices again I found it a bit unpredictable. Fresh batteries helped, and bringing them closer to the coordinator helped (hard for motorised blind if you've already installed it!)

leaden spear
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I added a USB extension to the dongle instead. 10cm distance between dongle antenna and FYRTUR now.

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also switched off the not yet decomissioned Philips Hue hub.

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newly charged battery

drifting flare
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Sounds close enough. You have the Sonoff ZBDonle-P I guess (CC2652P), which is the same as me

leaden spear
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yeah

drifting flare
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With the battery devices I think I ended up clicking them every few seconds to keep them awake - I don't know if your blind would be "sleeping"

leaden spear
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ZHA permits starting the process via the web UI, but after the process has aborted once, I need to restart the blinds for it to start again. And now it tries updating automatically.

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dunno. But with a 40 byte upload every three seconds and a 250k upload, we're talking several hours...

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(taken from memory, math may be slightly off)

drifting flare
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Summary of my advice then:

  • yes it does sometimes take several attempts.
  • it's very slow
  • if there's an automatic option, leave that on for a week and see if it just does it for you
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I don't use ZHA, other people might know better 😄

leaden spear
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thank you for chiming in anyways. good to know that it is supposed to be as slow as I observe it.

drifting flare
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(Try touching the controls of the blind every few seconds, or few percent of the update)

leaden spear
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does z2m (or zigbee in general) have a concept of restarting a firmware download from a given offset?

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🙂 ok

rapid dawnBOT
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@trail gorge I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
austere patio
leaden spear
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I see.

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But here, the download is aborted. And then nothing more appears to happen unless I powercycle the blinds

austere patio
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Can you get a debug log? You can manually re-issue an image notification command via the cluster management UI in ZHA

leaden spear
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sending the image_notify command ends up flashing a NWK_NO_ROUTE message

austere patio
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But if the device itself aborts the OTA, there's no way to resume it

leaden spear
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noted

austere patio
leaden spear
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itead c26xx.

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with coordinator firmware

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just that

austere patio
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So you have just those two devices on your network?

leaden spear
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no, that would be a lie

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I have three 'Namron' zigbee dimmers as well.

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and I actually have two fyrturs

austere patio
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Any other routing devices?

leaden spear
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I have a Hue hub. also disconnected from power.

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I have 11 Hue bulbs. currently disconnected from power

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so unless the dimmers are routing devices, no

austere patio
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Can you upload diagnostics JSON for one of the dimmers and for the ZHA integration itself?

leaden spear
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@austere patio as an issue in github, or just a dpaste?

austere patio
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Just as a paste

leaden spear
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I triggered another update again. currently running. But interestingly, the blinds are not listed as connected devices under the coordinator device?

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just the three dimmers

austere patio
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They aren't connected directly to the coordinator in that case and are connected via a dimmer

leaden spear
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the map shows the blinds as a 'free-floating' device.

pallid nexus
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Heya - I'm using ZHA and want to use the normal "Automations" to simply control my Hue bulbs, with Hue dimmers.. The problem is that the bulbs to not turn on or off totally synchronised. Sometimes it even feels like it only turns one bulb on at a time 😅
Does anyone know what is going on? I am just using the Light service targeting an area as seen on the screenshot. 🙂

(I have also tried putting the bulbs in a group, and targetting that entity.. Exactly the same results.

leaden spear
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is the map unable to visualize that the blinds are connected via a device?

austere patio
austere patio
pallid nexus
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Oh

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Download diags?

austere patio
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Yes. For the integration itself, not any specific device.

leaden spear
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@austere patio thank you for your kind assistance.

pallid nexus
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Got confused after seeing your name in there haha

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Just tell me if you need any clarification

austere patio
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It doesn't look like your ZigBee channel is congested. Did you recently reload the integration? Or is this after you triggered the delayed on?

pallid nexus
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I only have two Hue dimmers on it right now. They are controlling Hue bulbs, which is from the Hue integration. I recall remembering to try and reload the integration and then restarting HA, but nothing changed. Not really sure what you mean by the last part sorry (Or is this after you triggered the delayed on?)

leaden spear
austere patio
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Hmm, let's take a step back here. The diagnostics info you posted is for the ZHA integration. You're also using the Hue integration? ZHA directly controls a USB coordinator, it is entirely independent from Hue. Unless you're actively using a Hue hub, you don't need the Hue integration.

pallid nexus
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(USB is on an extension cable so it is away from the computer and the ports and such. JFYI)

pallid nexus
austere patio
pallid nexus
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I hope that makes sense haha

leaden spear
austere patio
leaden spear
austere patio
# leaden spear channel 2, yes

That would be a problem and likely causing interference issues preventing the OTA from reliably completing. Move it to 1, 6, or 11, or at least towards the upper end (6+) so it doesn't overlap with ZigBee.

pallid nexus
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Uhmm - I guess the Hue integration just creates devices in HA right? So because all my Hue stuff is on the Hue bridge itself, that integration then gives me all the devices on that bridge, right?
I have then reset two Hue dimmers, which ZHA is now connected via ZHA.

Does that answer your question?

leaden spear
pallid nexus
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It just because I have not gotten around to reset all my bulbs yet, so they are still on the Hue bridge instead of ZHA

austere patio
pallid nexus
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I am targetting the area that the bulbs are assigned to

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(Kontor means office)

austere patio
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I would first narrow down your problem by individually targeting all the devices in an area provided by a single integration, to see which one is having issues.

pallid nexus
austere patio
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From what I can see, ZHA just controls two dimmers, with your other 47 devices controlled by Hue. When you target your office and turn on all its lights, are any of the ZHA-controlled dimmers in there? Or is it all Hue bulbs controlled by the Hue integration?

pallid nexus
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ZHA only has two dimmers yes. Which controls bulbs only from the Hue integration yes

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So what I'm trying to control (the bulbs) is only one integration (Hue integration). But I am controlling that with a dimmer which is controlled by ZHA

austere patio
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If the bulbs and the dimmers are in the same room, both are being turned on/off at the same time. I would control just the bulbs or just the dimmers to see which is reacting slowly. (It's also not a good idea to turn off smart bulbs like this, as it breaks routing and also prevents you from turning the bulb back on without using the dimmer)

pallid nexus
# austere patio If the bulbs and the dimmers are in the same room, both are being turned on/off ...

Sorry, there was an angry baby hehe.

Just running the automation itself to turn on the bulbs, gives the same result - non-synchronised turning on of multiple bulbs. So I guess it nothing to do with the dimmer.. But that is also just sending the command to HA that it should fire the service I guess?

I'm not sure what you mean by it's not a good idea? Everything is controlled by HA. I can easily turn off the bulbs with the dimmer, and then turn them on again with some other device.

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Guess the only thing I can do/try, is to reset the bulbs so they are not a part of the Hue bridge, and then connect them via ZHA instead.. Then I also get the good mesh network. But maaaybe an angry wife that can't use the Hue app anymore 😅

jaunty sable
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how to setup the 3rd tuya equipment ? i try to use help doc ,but i app/data/extensionfexternally-loaded.js :34
const exps: Expose[] = [e.water_leak()， e.battery_low()， e.battery()]:
SyntaxError: Missing initializer in const declaration
at new Script (node :vm: 100 : 7)
at createscript (node : vm: 265:10)
at object.runInNewContext (node : vm : 306 : 10)
at loadModuleFromText (/app/lib/util/utils.ts :152:8)at loadModuleFromFile (/app/lib/utilfutils.ts:159:12)
at 0bject.getExternalConvertersDefinitions (/app/liblutil/utils.ts:169:25)at getExternalConvertersDefinitions.next (<anonymous>)
at new ExternalConverters (/app/liblextension/externalConverters.ts:12:20)at new Controller (Iapp/liblcontroller.ts :84:58)
at start (/appindex.js :106 :18)

kindred jay
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Hello, I am new to HA. I am starting on a RPI with a Zigbee Stick and a radiator thermostat. My issue is that HA / ZAH does not show the correct entities. It shows Switch / Switch1 and Switch2. so i need to install or change a quirk... I am hoping to get some pointers. Where can i get a Zigbee device signature? Where can i look at / change active quirks? is it a good idea tro install zha-toolkit?

silent anchor
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@mellow geode Hi! Some time ago you helped me with an issue in ZHA.

Now I'm currently trying to figure out an issue with a quirk you made in August (and edited last week) for a Xiaomi Module. In essence, I think the quirk isn't applied (maybe my Module has a different signature than what's in the quirk). Would you mind helping me debug?

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If there's other ZHA / zigpy Experts here feel free to chime in.

mellow geode
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Is this regarding the T1 relay?

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Can you link relevant GitHub issues/PRs?

silent anchor
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I suspect maybe the matching doesn't work to my Relay, as the quirk already has a second matching in it, so maybe there's more Signature Types out there.

mellow geode
silent anchor
mellow geode
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Try this file as a custom quirk please and see if it fixes the issue

silent anchor
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That was fast :D
I'll be right back.

quaint pawn
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Anyone in the UK know of any GU10 Zigbee RGBWW lamps?

astral seal
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Gledopto or Hue

silent anchor
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Maybe for the future a Dropdown for the type would be nice like with on/off memory but it shows in Advanced Zigbee Config, so I can use it.

mellow geode
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There needs to be a slight modification to both ZHA and zha-quirks though

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Can you list all possible switch types? (and their value)

kindred jay
tough trout
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In the quirks there are cluster_id's that are defined, but are outside what are in the specs. Does anyone know if these are assigned by the zigbee alliance, or are they just randomly chosen by the vendor/zigpy?

silent anchor
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in z2m only these two exist also.

silent anchor
kindred jay
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thank you!

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can you tell me where you put the custom quirk?

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ok. i need to add a folder /config/custom_zha_quirks/ and add that to the configuration

austere patio
silent anchor
mellow geode
leaden spear
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@austere patio still working on restoring my unifi console, so I can figure out which of my APs are transmitting on channel 2. In the meantime, is there any way to force a device to not act as a router? Kind of curious why my dimmers take on the FYRTUR blinds, as the coordinator is in the same room as the blinds. And the dimmers are on a different floor.

mellow geode
leaden spear
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I have been informed about this.

mellow geode
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is there any way to force a device to not act as a router?
no

leaden spear
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my devices use zigbee channel 15, wich is in conflict with wifi channels 2-6 or something

mellow geode
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Kind of curious why my dimmers take on the FYRTUR blind
Do you think the dimmers pick the blinds as the parent? The blind is battery-powered, right? (so not a router)

leaden spear
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the dimmers appear connected to the coordinator. the blinds are not

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yet, I have adopted the blinds and can initiate a firmware update.

mellow geode
mellow geode
leaden spear
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I am reasonably familiar with wifi

leaden spear
pallid nexus
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@austere patio Sorry to ping you, but thought you maybe would like to know what it all ended with..

I factory reset the bulbs and connected them via ZHA instead.. Everything works perfectly now. So I guess it's either the Hue hub being slow or the Hue integration being slow/buggy.
So ZHA in itself is working perfectly. This is of course also the best, since all the bulbs in my home then can make the perfect mesh network I guess. Only downside is how I tell my wife that she cannot use the Hue app anymore haha.

Thank you for your time. 🙂

leaden spear
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I have multiple APs, need to figure out which one to disable. Redid my kvm setup a few weeks ago, and my unifi vm was apparently not named 'unifi'. So I need to restore a couple of candidates to find the right one.

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😕

pallid nexus
austere patio
mellow geode
pallid nexus
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Wow I'm dumb - could've at least tried to save it before asking here.. It does work, it's just a frontend bug yes. Thank you haha

mellow geode
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Should probably be reported as a frontend issue. Don't think that's been done before

pallid nexus
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True

leaden spear
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does the value of 'query_jitter' matter a lot?

mellow geode
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Shouldn't matter. It's only used for broadcasts IIRC

leaden spear
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I have put my APs at ch2 and ch6 to minimum tx power. we'll see if that is sufficient to make the fw upgrade go through. (spoiler: it wasn't)

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anyone ever seen zigbee firmware upgrades for HZC products?

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looks like an OEM

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do opensource zigbee devices exist? end-devices, that is?

sour shadow
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People have built their own, yes

mellow geode
final kestrel
leaden spear
mellow geode
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The automatic part is removed in newer UniFi Network versions.
Just set 1, 6, or 11 manually

leaden spear
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I have three APs. Will disable the one most likely to be a source of interference. But will let stuff be for some hours to see if the blinds gets drawn as 'connected' to the coordinator. LQI is listed at 218 for the blinds, so not entirely convinced RF is the issue.

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Also, after the transfer has aborted, the device is unresponsive. Needs a powercycle before it responds again. That sounds more like an issue with the (current) device firmware having crashed?

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any opinions on TRÅDFRI vs DIRIGERA vs .... none of them? pondering buying a second-hand TRÅDFRI gw

violet dagger
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why?

leaden spear
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If the tools and processes I have at hand don't appear to work out, it may make sense to look at other tools and processes?

mighty river
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Does anyone know if I use skyconnect can I turn my SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus into a range extender to work with the skyconnect?

astral seal
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Yeah if you flash the router firmware

mighty river
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cool, will do, thanks

topaz burrow
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Those Sonoff Zigbee plugs btw for anyone curious absolutely caused all the Zigbee dropping issues on my network and 2023.11.1b doesn’t seem to fix it at least not for me.

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Not sure if anyone else has s31 plugs as routers and had better success but after unplugging them all my network actually works again

tough trout
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is there anyway to log all zigpy communications with a specific device to a logfile outside of the main homeassistant log?

mellow geode
tough trout
mellow geode
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Hmm. Ideally, you'd have a dedicated development HA instance (and coordinator) for that, but that's not always possible without the hardware of course.
Just for reference, what's the manufacturer and model of the device you're trying to add a quirk for?

molten linden
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You could grep the ha log to another file with using the NWK and ieee of the device you are interested in..

mellow geode
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(Do note that not all messages might be catched in that case, as some (especially quirks and HA ones) don't include the NWK address at the start.)

molten linden
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Yeah, it’s not perfect

tough trout
molten linden
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Fan?

tough trout
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Their light switch is the VZM31 and the new Fan controller is the VZM35

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Yea, I was looking at the Fan

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I have a bumch of the light switches.

mellow geode
tough trout
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Its not just that. It seems they used the same cluster_id on both devices and it is causing an issue when doing enumeration of the attributes as its tryign to hit one the light has but the fan does not.

mellow geode
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Yeah, that's what the PR would fix.

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zigpy failed silently at one point when it couldn't find an attribute, so it's possible that's why the issue only appeared now.

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As a workaround, you could either patch your ZHA instance with the code from the PR or create a custom quirk that adds all the attributes to your device. Both "solutions" aren't ideal at all though

tough trout
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Oh wow. that is modifying core. I thought it would just be an issue with the quirk.

mellow geode
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Yeah, currently only HA core (ZHA) has the ability to (properly) initialize attributes on configuration/pairing. Custom entities can only be created by modifying ZHA as well (at the moment at least).

silent anchor
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@mellow geode btw. do you need anything else from me for the T1 (specifically exposing the switch_type as a button) ?

Also an unrelated question: I stumbled upon another issue with a Device Quirk which has an open PR that won't get merged due to missing tests.
Is there any way community members can send a cup of coffee over to the devs, so they may add the tests and merge the PR?

Sadly I'm lacking the skills to add something useful to the PR myself.

drifting flare
# leaden spear I have three APs. Will disable the one most likely to be a source of interferenc...

You're in Norway? Which I assume uses the EU WiFi channel set, so you have up to channel 13, so you have a bit more space to play with than the usual channel 1, 6, 11 (US rules) advice. If you fix your 2.4GHz channel width to 20MHz then 1, 5, 9 and 13 are non-overlapping for you. Don't use channel 1 on any of your APs and then your Zigbee channels 11, 12, 13, 14 and almost 15 are all clear of your WiFi.

drifting flare
# leaden spear any opinions on TRÅDFRI vs DIRIGERA vs .... none of them? pondering buying a sec...

I have a Tradfri gw - it just works, but as I mentioned before, zigbee updates weren't/aren't an interactive process. The "check updates" button in the UI just checks to see what updates are available and doesn't seem to force any end device to start taking them. They did eventually get done for me. I've never used a Dirigera, but I guess if I was buying now that's the one I'd get for the future. The Tradfri does seem to be very lower power consumption though (less than 1W) which I like 🙂

drifting flare
drifting flare
leaden spear
drifting flare
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I had a Nest doorbell that in the UK would only use 2.4GHz

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I've moved to a PoE Reolink now.

leaden spear
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yeah. But my bluetooth LE thermometers are spamming data continuously.

drifting flare
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Again, compare that to a pair of Bluetooth headphones streaming audio, not a lot of data

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And BT spreads itself across the whole 2.4GHz spectrum anyway

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You can control what is on 5GHz, and use sensible channel widths and channels for 2.4GHz, and the position of the APs perhaps

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A bunch of smart devices shouldn't really be bringing down your Zigbee network

leaden spear
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I am not convinced it does, but puddly tells me that my debug report shows that the RF environment is busy.

drifting flare
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Could be your microwave, bad electrical connection, "noisy" power supply, badly screwed on coordinator antenna?

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DECT phone?

leaden spear
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I observe that the blinds still report presence after an aborted download, but I can't poll anything from them.

drifting flare
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(Do they work?)

leaden spear
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interestingly, they became unavailable 7 hours ago, when I was sound asleep

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I'll powercycle them and see if there is anything new

drifting flare
# leaden spear I am not convinced it does, but puddly tells me that my debug report shows that ...

Your log shows which channels are busy: "energy_scan": { "11": 35.68627450980392, "12": 0.0, "13": 18.431372549019606, "14": 14.117647058823529, "15": 85.49019607843137, "16": 29.80392156862745, "17": 61.1764705882353, "18": 55.68627450980392, "19": 60.0, "20": 75.68627450980392, "21": 3.9215686274509802, "22": 31.372549019607842, "23": 87.05882352941177, "24": 3.9215686274509802, "25": 2.7450980392156863, "26": 38.431372549019606 }

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You'd want to capture that log again if you've been changing anything like WiFi channels

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But as an example, in that log 25 looks very quiet. If you only have a small Zigbee network at the moment why not set it up again, do the scan and choose a channel that is quiet?

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BTW, as far as I know the Tradfri gateway uses channel 11 and you can't change it.

leaden spear
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powercycling the blinds does not appear to bring them online again. if there is a software issue on the current firmware, battery may have drained?

drifting flare
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Maybe. At least you can recharge it 🙂

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Do you live close to neighbours with lots of wireless kit?

leaden spear
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If I can get it up and running without customizing the zigbee defaults, I think I'd prefer that.

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no

drifting flare
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Sorry, I've got to go now - people are annoyed that I've not fixed the shoe cupboard to the wall properly 🙄

leaden spear
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I feel your pain

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got the same role here

drifting flare
# leaden spear If I can get it up and running without customizing the zigbee defaults, I think ...

If you believe your energy scan results then the ZHA default channel is currently the worst choice for you. Use ch 5, 9, and/or 13 for your 2.4GHz, 20MHz channel widths. Rescan the channel usage. I have 4x 2.4GHz APs in my home and I just alternate channels 9 and 13. (Yes, there are some very dumb WiFi smart devices that can't use channel 13, I have only 2 of those, they connect to the APs on channel 9)

mellow geode
dusk python
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What’s a better motion sensor? I’m tired of these ikea ones randomly eating thru batteries in 2 weeks

ashen bluff
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Please read the channel description

dusk python
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Thanks for the recommendation.

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That really narrows it down.

silent anchor
keen merlin
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I hear a lot about the Sonoff Dongle E's being crap. Not my experience. At least when using them as routers (flashed with router firmware) . I'm running HA on a Yellow so I selected the E's to create battery backed routers because because they use same wireless chip used in the Yellow. I have two E's running for weeks connected to a USB PS with a backup 1200 mAh battery and my ZHA network is stable and reliable. No nodes dropping off. My mains routers are INNR outlets, or Hue bulbs. My Zigbee net is not large - only 29 devices. I've been running HA 11 beta (from b1->b2) for few days. No anomalies detected

mellow geode
ashen bluff
keen merlin
ashen bluff
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I feel like there's already too many channels. It would also dilute things. Too similar

keen merlin
drifting flare
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I just flashed the router firmware on to a ZBDongle-E to use as a router alongside my ZBDongle-P in a Z2M network - will it likely be trouble free to pair them together?

keen merlin
jagged sun
tough trout
mellow geode
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Currently, to implement it in ZHA

lean belfry
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weird problem. my ikea buttons keep going rogue

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they work if i reconfigure them

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then they stop working again

leaden spear
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I have tuned my rf environment and made a shield around my dongle and the FYRTUR electronics. LQI: 247 and channel 15 at .. 0.0 ? ok.

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How should I read frequency_band=<FrequencyBand.Freq2400MHz: 8>, ?

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Is there any reason to suspect the RPi4 not providing enough current for the coordinator/dongle? dmesg does not suggest any issues.

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Any considerations regarding using USB2 vs USB3 ports for the dongle? I currently use a USB extender for the dongle, I could remove that and use a longer UTP cable between switch and PoE dongle powering the RPi.

leaden spear
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I notice the ota handler starts retransmitting at around the 2% mark

sour shadow
leaden spear
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file_offset=4640 is where things are starting to deteriorate.

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And if I use a USB2 port I am safe either way?

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I'll not complain if I ever have to recover an ethernet switch via zmodem again

keen merlin
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If anybody is looking for a Zigbee Fridge or Freezer monitor take a look at at the MACREO ST4. The manufacturer says it requires their hub, but it paired with the Yellow using ZHA without their hub. It shows up as unk_model/unk_manfacturer. It uses a DS18B20 sensor on a very thin cable so it can fit between the door seal without creating an air leak and has a rechargeable 1800 mAh battery. I just added it so I'll report more info later . Maybe one of the Zigbee wizards can figure out how to enable it's features like it's built-in over-temp beeper and battery status

faint vine
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says MOCREO Hub required, so I'd hazard a guess it is, wonder what the difference is between the ST4 and the ST5, but yea have been thinking on this exact problem, I know some people throw the Xiaomi ones in but the cold hurts the batteries

keen merlin
faint vine
rich star
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I have a zigbee + SkyConnect + Silicon Labs related question. Goal is I want to be able to use hue-thief (or other similar zigbee tools) from my host machine, as part of connecting a Hue to my zigbee (ZHA) setup.

My SkyConnect I previously moved to the Thead+Zigbee firmware.

Does anyone know how to get at the socket to connect to the Silicon Labs instance from the host machine? Eg I'd like to be able to hit it from socket://homeassistant:9999 (homeassistant resolving to localhost on the host itself).

rich star
austere patio
rich star
austere patio
rich star
austere patio
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Yes, that's the one

rich star
# austere patio Yes, that's the one

dang, wasn't connecting when I tried that, but let me give it another go after a full ha stop / start cycle.

Just to confirm, that'll expose it as 9999 on the host network?

austere patio
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Indeed. Make sure ZHA is disabled, as otherwise neither will work

rich star
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you da man dawg, that was it (ZHA)

leaden spear
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I have replaced the image in the zigpy_ota folder with a slightly older version now. Shortened the USB cable, moved stuff back to a USB2 port, and a crap attempt at shielding the dongle and fyrtur electronics. (together)

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currently at 15%, 40 bytes every 2.1 seconds. We'll see.

rich star
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Now I guess I should reset my question to: has anyone ever connected a Hue bulb to a SkyConnect + SI labs directly? I'm running into a whack-a-mole of issues here.

rich star
austere patio
leaden yarrow
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So, why is it that you can't find Zigbee light switches that are stand-alone pieces anymore? And why is it not as easy to find Zigbee devices like you used to?

slow venture
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Question from an RPi first-timer. I just purchased a zigbee antenna (sonoff) -- do i just plug it into the RPi and find it in integrations menu in Home Assistant?

Do I need to like restart the RPi? Is there a firmware installation step? Can't seem to find a video on youtube

ashen bluff
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Pretty much: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/

zigbee antenna (sonoff)
Sonoff makes different coordinators with different chips. I assume you meant coordinator when you said antenna.
There'a also other choices than ZHA, see channel description and pins. The E model from sonoff isn't recommended for Z2M for example.

Can't seem to find a video on youtube
I find that hard to believe. If you search home assistant zigbee you're bound to find something

slow venture
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thanks!

brazen robin
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TL;DR: Can a SMA extension cable be used with the Sonoff dongles instead of a USB extension (to avoid interference)?

Recently changed from a Nortek HUSBZB-1 to Sonoff 3.0 Dongle Plus. I used an extension docking cable but with the Sonoff's external antenna, I'm wondering if I can just use a magnetic SMA mount. This way, the dongle can stay inside the rack cabinet but just the antenna is outside.

gleaming jay
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Tried restarting the HA with a full reboot and also tried rebooting the poe radio

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There’s other logs but I think that one is the one that explains it? ^^

brazen robin
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Are you using ZHA?

gleaming jay
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Yes

ashen bluff
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Maybe the ip of the coordinator changed from 192.168.1.36 to ...

brazen robin
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Had similar issue twice within the past week after restarting. I had to Migrate Radio, choose the coordinator, and keep network settings. Everything working now.

gleaming jay
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It’s assigned in the router, but now the routers saying it’s offline

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Gonna go check

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The tubez radios no longer blinking lights, they’re solid

ashen bluff
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You could see if nmap can find something with a command like this

nmap -T4 -v -p 6638 192.168.1.0/24
gleaming jay
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Changed the ethernet cable from one poe switch to another and now it works

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Dunno if it was the poe switch connection/power, or just the act of rebooting the radio one more time

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But Unifi was reporting its wired connection status was “E” which is just 10mbps

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I hate how whenever this happens I have to repair some amount of zigbee devices’ connections

hot fable
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hey guys, i just got my skyconnect in the mail today and was looking things up and i just realised the computer i have HA running on through proxmox only has usb 3.0 ports

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i've heard zigbee isn't great on 3.0 ports - is there something i can do to make sure i have the best zigbee network?

ashen bluff
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You can use a extension cable or a USB 2 hub to avoid most of the interference

hot fable
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i got a skyconnect which came with an extension cable, so i can give that a shot

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is there a way to tell whether it's being affected badly by it? sorry if it's a basic question but this is my first zigbee stuff

ashen bluff
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You could run a energy scan. It's linked in the pins or description I think

hot fable
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ok, i'll give it a shot once it's all up and running, thanks!

ashen bluff
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Oh I forgot to mention. You could also use a ethernet coordinator

leaden spear
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🥳 managed to update one of my blinds

lean belfry
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anyone else having issues with aqara temerature sensors loosing connection and going offline after a while?

drifting flare
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I updated the firmware of my ZBDongle-P yesterday and home assistant was shut down for about 30 minutes. [4] of my [7] aqara THP sensors needed to be re-added after that. Otherwise one of them seems to need that every few months.

lean belfry
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Yeah mine looses connection after a couple of hours

drifting flare
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Are you using ZHA or Z2M? What coordinator and router hardware do they connect to?

lean belfry
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i use a skyconnect usb dongle

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and zha

drifting flare
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How far away are the sensors?

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Are you using a USB extension cable to keep the Skyconnect away from radio noise? That usually helps increase the range

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And because the Skyconnect has an internal antenna people often report that it's helpful to have a reliable router device (like a zigbee switched mains plug) nearby.

leaden spear
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... unless the extension cable is so long that the dongle suffers from brown-outs. 🙂

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no clue how much power these dongles pull

drifting flare
leaden spear
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not sure what made my fw update go through in the end. did a bunch of things. shortening the usb cable and switching back to a usb2 port among them

meager mango
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ok. what about collecting information from the crowd about the used length of the USB extension cable. That should help to figure an optimal length.

sour shadow
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That also depends on the quality of the cable

meager mango
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I'm using a 2m cable and I am facing sometimes messaged not being delivered.

sour shadow
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Cheap crap will have problems long before a good quality one

meager mango
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ok, how to determine the quality of the cable? just via the price?

sour shadow
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Nah

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Though somewhat yes

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Have you looked at the teardown and comparison of Apple's USB C cable?

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I've got a 2 meter USB 3.0 cable (in a USB 2.0 port) that's been flawless - cost me about £20
I've also got a 1 meter flat USB 2.0 cable that's been flawless - cost me about £15

lean belfry
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i use the cable that came with the skyconnect

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and i have a router like 2-3 meter away

drifting flare
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For quality "feels chunky"

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Fancy braided outer is money not spent on metal wire 🙂

ashen bluff
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I use two of the cheapest 1m extension cables I could find. They cost 3€ (7€ now :() and work fine

meager mango
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my 2m cable brings the Skyconnect about 2.3m away from router and Pi4.
but as mentioned, sometimes messages are dropped.
Zigbee Energy information shows about 90-97%

ashen bluff
meager mango
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I got the information from the ZHA diagnosis information

ashen bluff
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I haven't used ZHA yet

low rock
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Hey guys. I've got this wierd problem with an Aqara wall plug. It keeps pairing with remotes close by. Two different kinds of Ikea remotes. Why? Anyone knows how I stop it?
Removing and repairing the remotes makes it go away, but after a few days or weeks, its back again.

leaden spear
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An energy scan is unlikely to pinpoint issues with your USB connection. And as any noise emitted is likely to be bursty in nature, may or may not show up in the energy scan.

ashen bluff
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Best I could think of. Any suggestions what might be a more appropriate method?

leaden spear
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just get a decent USB cable at around 1m, hook it into a USB2 port. If you control your wifi environment, use channels not interfering with zigbee.

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RF can only approach an exact science with some niche gear and plenty knowledge and experience.

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Longer cables will have some voltage drop. thinner cables are likely to a) be susceptible to interferenced and b) add to interference. I cannot quantify the extent of either. The quality of USB connectors also differs.

meager mango
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what a challenge! 😮

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Wifi Channel: 3
Zigbee Channel: 14
is the difference big enough?

mellow geode
sour shadow
meager mango
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:/
and I am looking for options to improve the situation ...

sour shadow
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That's going to be moving the WiFi to other channels and/or moving Zigbee channels

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There's a pinned image showing Zigbee and WiFi channels - you'll want to look at that

sour shadow
meager mango
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🙂 no doubt. I am new to it

low rock
mellow geode
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Round one or square-ish one?

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You’ll need to downgrade firmware to a version without the issue.

low rock
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round one

mellow geode
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Yeah, see the link I’ve sent then (you have the MAEU01 then)

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For the firmware, use the firmware that’s at the bottom of the comment (links to another comment, header modified with v99)

low rock
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seems right. z2mqtt says im running v42

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thanks

mellow geode
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Interesting. Don’t think I’ve ever seen that version before. You’ll need the header version of the OTA file to be at least v43 then. So just use the v99 one in the other comment. Will work fine for all versions.

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I think there are also instructions for Z2M in the thread. You’ll just need to use a local OTA index IIRC

low rock
steel siren
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I just bought a random zigbee mmWave sensor which says it needs to be setup using Smart Life. I don't have a gateway registered in the smart life app as this is directly connected to home assistant. I managed to discover the device using ZHA but it doens't give any entities worth using... what should next steps be?

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It's hard to find which model exactly it is, as I find several ones looking just like this one but all are branded as zigbee but mentioend Tuya in the description (hence the smart life app)

wintry musk
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hi all,
Im still looking into making a start with smart lights. My server is rather far away from my actual living room so if i want to connect some smart lights i need some routers in the form of smart plugs. But i havent got any devices where smart plugs could be an addition to it. So i was wondering if the innr smart hub is compatible with HA? I cant seem to find any article about it.
My idea is to place the hub in my living room, connect the lights and let HA see the connected devices through the innr hub.

steel siren
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can I run z2m next to zha and have them use the same sonoff zigbee gateway perhaps? Maybe with Z2M I have better luck getting sensor measurements

drifting flare
drifting flare
sour shadow
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hi all,

steel siren
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yeah ZHA found it through auto discoery, but it only gives me LQI & RSSI, none which is useful to me

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@drifting flare not quite sure what to do with this thing right now. Is there a way to get this one to behave wihtout having to throw out ZHA (too many things using it so that's not an option)

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a second gateway seems a bit overkill for one device too

drifting flare
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It will likely be supported "eventually"

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If you can find the model/device id from the logs then searching might find some discussion or even temp work around

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I think that ZHA lets you add "quirks files" for devices that do not have built in support (I might be wrong, I don't use ZHA atm)

steel siren
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seems to be right, found _TZE200_v6ossqfy from reading raw values from the device, this gave me a link to a guy with a quirk file that I will try. But now I'm questioning staying on ZHA at all. I use Aqara e1 TRV and need better thermostat for external readers, but this integration only supports Z2M. Is the move over a painful one or is it just re-pairing all zigbee devices @drifting flare ?

floral plinth
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Anyone run into any issues with ZHA on the last OS/HA upgrade? I upgraded and now my network won't form, says its due to noise but it was running great for months, until I upgraded.

steel siren
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@drifting flare do I git clone zha-device-handlers dir or is it recommended to only handpick the files that seems relevant?

lean belfry
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What's the most used cr battery in zigbee devices

sour shadow
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The one you don't have

lean belfry
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Fair enough

sour shadow
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Depends a lot on what brand you're asking about

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Hell, some brands use AA and AAA

lean belfry
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Usually aqara

sour shadow
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Various

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The door sensors have 1632, others are 2032 or 2450

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Some even take two batteries

drifting flare
lean belfry
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Is the battery life indicator in ha usually accurate

sour shadow
sour shadow
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So, yes, but probably maybe

lean belfry
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Oh then the better question is the sensor reporting correctly smile

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Wich we would not know

sour shadow
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And about the battery in it

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And the temperature of the battery

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My experience is that mostly it's rare to report 100% when dead

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Of course it may also report 0% when working fine

lean belfry
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Yeah. I think rn i need to look up my location of the USB stick cause feels like it the problem most of the time

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Then batteries cause haven't changed in a, year or two

sour shadow
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Most of my Aqara sensors get multiple years of battery life

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The one outdoors on the garden gate almost certainly won't, but should be at least a year

lean belfry
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Most of them is sub 10%

sour shadow
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I usually replace once they're consistently below 20%

lean belfry
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Guess i will do that

sour shadow
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At least they're better than my Fibaro sensors that'd be dead at "100%"

floral plinth
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What’s the latest and greatest zigbee coordinator nowadays?

drifting flare
keen merlin
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How do I request ZHA support for a device?

rapid dawnBOT
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@floral plinth Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

sour shadow
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Just avoid the Sonoff P

drifting flare
# lean belfry Is the battery life indicator in ha usually accurate

Because nothing in my network is super important I let the batteries run down until the end device stops working. I replaced the 2 cr2032 cells in a an IKEA PIR at the weekend when it stopped working at 47%. The cells both measured 2.4V on a volt meter. The new cells measured 3.1V, and the PIR claimed 60%. I notice the device is reporting 47% again right now, so 🤷

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I have a bunch of other IKEA shortcut buttons and PIRs that are shown as 1% in the Z2M dashboard (red battery icons) or as flashing battery icons (below 20?), and they've all been like that for weeks.

molten talon
drifting flare
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The only thing that I regret not changing in time are the Tile trackers on my keys.

grim igloo
molten talon
violet dagger
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Why not do one and see how it turns out?

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I have only one but will do it

grim igloo
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i bought them to use in 3d printer enclosures then never built the enclosures

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i already have them flashed to bthome fw and they're the only reason i even use esphome ble proxies lol

violet dagger
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I'm not enthusiastic by the 5 min updates though

grim igloo
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i think mine are at 10 now

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w/e the default was when flashing

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nope 5min now

dire owl
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hi all, when using the web-based SkyConnect firmware updater, this screen that pops up when connects to the USB dongle is this:

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is this telling me what my curent FW is or what I can update to thanks

mellow geode
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Pretty sure that’s your current firmware

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Change firmware should give you an option to install a different type of firmware. Selecting the same type should update it

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4.3.2 or so is the latest one IIRC

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You can check the NabuCasa/silabs-firmware repo though

dire owl
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what is interesting, I don't remember updating to 4.3.1, but rather having 4.3.0

mellow geode
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It might be that the addon flashes new firmware

dire owl
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that could explain it!

floral plinth
sour shadow
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There are well known problems with the hardware there

raw lynx
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howdy all QQ
in the US (FCC) which channel is optimal for zigbee networks?

i have a lot of conjestion on 1 - 11 (wifi with multiple AP's blasting 2.4ghz)

i've heard channel 25 is king but has reduced power

thoughts?

raw lynx
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or here's another thought - looking athte channel lineup

i'm thinking of clearing channel 1 on my wifi to open channel 11 on zigbee