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heady kayak
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cool beans. As long as you know it's generally possible and have thought about it.

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AFAIK, Matter isn't a comms protocol like zigbee/zwave are. It's for interoperability between things. Thread is probably what you're meaning.

jade mist
heady kayak
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🙂

sour shadow
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Lots of people run network connected Zigbee coordinators, if your network is stable it works well

jade mist
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doesn't really anser (2) and (3) from my perspective. I know that technically both way are working (USB adapters on a rpi with HAOS that connect to a HAOS VM - or ethernet capable adapters for zigbee and matter) The question isn't if it is technically possible, but rather, are there thread adapters with ethernet connector? which of the both architectures is better / or what are their up and downsides? I currently would like to rather go for the ethernet adapters solution as I do not like to update my HAOS RPi several times a months and do not like the complexity of the solution, which makes it more prone to failure and security vulnerabilities.

sour shadow
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Well, #2 has nothing to do with Zigbee

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If you want to know about network connected thread coordinators ask in #thread-archived

jade mist
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uh--- ok in the thread channel, I missed that

sour shadow
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Network connected Zigbee coordinators are fine if your network is stable. If your network isn't they're not fine

jade mist
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yeah, thanks, my network is fine for that.

sour shadow
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Then a network connected coordinator should be absolutely fine for you

dense tundra
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Got this today with multiple lines,

[0xA9B6:1:0x0001]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE: 225>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE: 225>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE: 225>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE: 225>')]

I have a new Zigbee stick on the way too (Home Assistant Sky Connect). Should be here today at 7 PM

Facing multiple periods of controller lockup of Zigbee and Z-Wave randomly then suddenly it all starts working again. I can reboot the host and most times it'll come back

carmine hamlet
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how did you configure HA to communicate with your zigbee and zwave dongles?

dense tundra
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I plugged in the stick, it popped up to configure Z wave and Zigbee respectfully automatically with the native integrations I believe. (Sonos 3.0 stick on Zigbee side right now)

sour shadow
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Are both on USB extension cables?

dense tundra
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Correct, first thing I tried

carmine hamlet
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I was talking about the device nodes that you're using

sour shadow
dense tundra
dense tundra
ember raven
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So my non-working conbee-II was fixed by a reboot without the stick, and then a new reboot with the stick. Who knows, but it's fixed 🙂

astral seal
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Provided you've done what you can with the physical environment, ie using extension cables, making sure your stick isn't near any SSDs or Bluetooth devices, maybe changing your 2.4 GHz WiFi channel to one that's less likely to interfere with Zigbee.

dense tundra
tender orchid
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Which zigbee sensor do you recommend to use for thermostat ? An accurate one and that reports frequently ?

sour shadow
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Xiaomi Aqara

heady kayak
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I have run into a problem with one of those, but it was really obvious. The others have worked with no problems at all. (The problem being that it was reporting it was -100C. which I'm pretty sure my hall wasn't.)

tender orchid
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Ok but I have some sensor that don’t report anything during 15 to 30min

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This model

eager bloom
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Hello everyone, is z2m having a service in home assistant to launch permit_join from home assistant commands?

violet dagger
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Kind of

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You use mqtt.publish service

ashen bluff
upbeat cape
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I'm having some issues with ZHA.
I just bought the skyconnect to get off the tuya cloud and started adding my first handfull of devices, but I'm struggling with some devices becoming unresponsive after a server restart. It's only after I cut power to the offending devices and reintroduce it, that they again start to work correctly.
why is this happening?
It's literally my first day with a HA coordinator so any help would be greatly appreciated 🙏

latent ermine
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Hi, I installed home assistant on a Vm on synology. I have a dongle sonoff zigbee model E. When I start Zigbee2mqtt I have this error:

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2023-06-22T14:42:34.316Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:erro zdoRequest error
2023-06-22T14:42:34.317Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:debg Node descriptor request for '0' failed (Error: ZdoRequest error), retry
Error: ZdoRequest error
at Driver.zdoRequest (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/driver.ts:573:19)
at EZSPAdapter.nodeDescriptorInternal (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/adapter/ezspAdapter.ts:373:28)
at Object.func (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/adapter/ezspAdapter.ts:363:32)
at Queue.executeNext (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/queue.ts:32:32)

timber ravine
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Hi all, ordered a skyconnect and wondering... what can I do to add greater resilience to my zigbee network? Current plan is I have a dedicated UPS battery for my home assistant sbc. My goal is to not have to walk around and reset any zigbee devices if possible.

lilac wharf
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Can you elaborate on what your concern is? I'm not sure how your last sentence relates

timber ravine
lilac wharf
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You don't

molten linden
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that is only if you move to a new network. but both ZHA and Z2M have backups now that can easilly move your network to a new coordinator.

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zha even has channel changing now, so you only have to reset some device if you end up have to do that - not all.

timber ravine
lilac wharf
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Make sure you have plenty of routers (also called repeaters). Most mains-powered zigbee devices act as routers

wide briar
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I have HAOS up and running on a NUC and have a Nortek HUSBZB-1 zwave and zigbee combo usb stick I am trying to install Zigbee2MQTT. I keep getting this error after configuring my serial port on the Zigbee addon. Any thoughts on this? Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-06-22 13:55:49: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-06-22 13:55:49: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-06-22 13:55:49: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-06-22 13:55:49: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-06-22 13:55:49: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:103:27)
at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29)
at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:58:27)
at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:101:27)
at start (/app/index.js:107:5)

molten linden
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It’s an ezsp coordinator- you have to have that in your config

wide briar
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How so I add that?

molten linden
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Check z2m docs under the adaptors and the not recommended/experimental section for ezsp there are examples under each device

wide briar
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Ahh, I dont even see my adapter there

heady kayak
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Just picked up a VINDSTYRKA sensor. Not bad 🙂 (hooked up with zha, and a zha_toolkit script to pull tvoc)

grim igloo
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why does it need the script?

heady kayak
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zha doesn't yet natively support it.

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there's a quirk sitting waiting to be merged, but it's not there yet.

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yes, strictly not a script

timber ravine
midnight mist
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guys whats the best for smart switch compatible with zigbee?

heady kayak
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I don't have an answer, but you should say where you are for that smart switch question. European/British standards are different from US

midnight mist
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oh really?

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(btw for us)

heady kayak
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British switch boxes are square

midnight mist
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ok so i bought a sonof zigbee right?

heady kayak
midnight mist
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i dont use it because i dont have any device compatible with that, i was thinking about getting 2 swtich for my garage door and i thought why not buying them for zigbee

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so here i am

violet dagger
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You bought a Sonoff ZigBee stick?

midnight mist
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yes

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like few months ago

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i have it plugged it to my pc but never use it...

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as my devices are not compatible :(

violet dagger
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And you're using which integration for Zigbee?

midnight mist
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none as i dont use the stick...

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but i would use it if i get some devices

violet dagger
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You need to choose one before getting the device otherwise it might not be supported

midnight mist
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oh really?

violet dagger
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No I'm lying for fun

midnight mist
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what are the difference between each one?

violet dagger
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See pinned messages for that

midnight mist
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and you cant add all of those integrations?

heady kayak
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you've got 2 basic options with that stick:
ZHA - the one which comes with home assistant. Fairly new.
Zigbee2MQTT - more complex. Gives some different options. A bit more mature.

Both support most things. And there's this handy site which has a list of different devices and which integrations they work with 😉

midnight mist
heady kayak
midnight mist
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i woudl have found what i was searching for if it wasnt uk and eu

midnight mist
heady kayak
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Oh, there are more. This just covers a subset of ones which have been tested.

midnight mist
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because theres only 2 switches there :/

heady kayak
violet dagger
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Zigbee2mqtt.io has a more extensive list but names and images are not always correct

midnight mist
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i saw

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where could i get this?

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what about this one? would it work?

violet dagger
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Those no names on Amazon are a gamble

midnight mist
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no names?

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also i saw i need a tuya hub i think

heady kayak
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Gantch. It's not a 'real' brand.

midnight mist
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i am just searching for a switch with 2 buttons to be able to connect to my zigbee stick D:

heady kayak
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it's an amazon marketing thing for someone drop shipping.

midnight mist
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🥺

heady kayak
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Aqara may be worth looking at?

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No idea how well those fit american boxes though

midnight mist
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whats with neutral and no neutral

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wtf 45$ damnnn

heady kayak
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Some people's wiring has a neutral wire in their switch boxes. some people don't.

midnight mist
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i see

heady kayak
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and it looks like on amazon, they're basically out to stock 😦

midnight mist
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and also expensive af

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also for me they are on stock

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but damn the price

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too much

violet dagger
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Buy cheap buy twice

midnight mist
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D:

violet dagger
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Look for linkind, enbrighten

heady kayak
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There's also the option of using a sonoff relay in the box, if there's space for it/

midnight mist
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wdym?

violet dagger
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That does expand the choices

midnight mist
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:/

heady kayak
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you get a sonoff relay, and plug the power into that. then connect the existing switch to the relay as a way to toggle it.

midnight mist
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?

midnight mist
heady kayak
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those are wifi ones

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the important thing is: They require a neutral wire.

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I can't use them because I don't have any neutral wires in my light sockets

midnight mist
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i dont think my garage buttons have neutral wire

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thats why i wanted some directly switches

heady kayak
midnight mist
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at this point idk, it might end up on wifi devices..

heady kayak
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the other option is keep dumb switches, get smart bulbs.

midnight mist
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lol

heady kayak
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ahhhhhhhhhh

midnight mist
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yeahh

heady kayak
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that is another matter

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and more difficult

midnight mist
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why?

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by just changing the switch would have fix it

heady kayak
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motors can be problematic when it comes to controlling things.

midnight mist
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😬

heady kayak
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when they stop, they tend to backwash current

midnight mist
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so

heady kayak
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your garage door opener, however, may have some instructions on how to wire in a relay to control it

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so you don't touch the switch. you add an extra control

midnight mist
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ok

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like what?

heady kayak
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it really depends on the garage door motor. But can be something like that sonoff zbmini-l2

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where it's not carrying the current to power the motor

midnight mist
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my garage opener is from this guys

midnight mist
heady kayak
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unfortunately I don't know anything about garage door openers (I live in a first floor flat 😉 ) other than what I've seen on youtube.

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I'd suggest looking at the opener, and seeing if you can see a model number or something. and look that up on the intertubes. you might get lucky

midnight mist
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i found psd 4500

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but cant find anything about it

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i think i have some old shit

lavish sage
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Hi,
I have cover switch type MS-108zr.
Is it possible to deactivate calibration mode and have a simple up, down and stop mode ?
Currently my up time is longer than down time . Therefore when setting x % down, then 100 %, cover is never physically at 100%. Solution is to set a long calibration time and make first a full down movement that is not acceptable
Thank you by advance
Phil

raven pollen
sour shadow
raven pollen
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Essentially, I have the -P model but would like to enable it to also work as a Thread router. Is this possible?

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with a docker container i would assume

sour shadow
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You'd need the experimental Thread firmware for it

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It exists, but I don't know what the current state of it is

raven pollen
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Loads of stuff talking abou the -E but can't find a single mention of Thread on the -P

astral seal
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Personally, I wouldn't run experimental firmware on my production device, but I also have other people in my house who rely on me to make sure HA just works when they need it to who are going to get upset if I break everything.

sour shadow
limber eagle
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Haos in a VM using virtual box
Zigbee2mqtt
Skyconnect

Continuously get this error. Had it working for an hour or so last night but haven't been able to get it back.

Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.117)
Error: Reset error: Error: {"sequence":-1} after 10000ms
at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/uart.ts:299:23
at Queue.executeNext (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/queue.ts:32:32)

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Please help

molten linden
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given z2m is complaining about a uart error, likely a passthrough issue to the vm. but can't rule out issue with ezsp coordinator with z2m since they are experimental.

limber eagle
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Is there any troubleshooting if it is the passthrough issue

molten linden
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it's on my list to get a more up-to-date build

limber eagle
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Or do I need to get a sonoff stick for z2m? Or switch to zha?

molten linden
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I created a whole product/store/LLC to avoid vm passthrough 😂 so I'm not much help there.

limber eagle
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Man I had ha/mqtt/z2m all running in docker on a Pi and it seemed overly complicated. Thought haos would be more straightforward lol

raven pollen
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Do you use it in production?

molten linden
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no. it was tested back when it was created and worked with otbr addon. but it may be too old

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you likely will need to change the some of the pins for the sonoff.

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I originally compiled it from the rcp example in the ti sdk. but I think I saw they were removing it in favor of the above example.

dire owl
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hi all, following the instructions to update my FW on my SkyConnect, except I do not know where to get the actual file name on the last command
flash --allow-cross-flashing --firmware <firmware-file>

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what is the <firmware-file>?

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version 7.3.0.0

sour shadow
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<firmware-file> is the fle with the firmware

dire owl
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but what is the file name?

sour shadow
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Well... it depends on the one you download

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It does give you an example there

dire owl
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ahh thank you. I found it!
NabuCasa_SkyConnect_EZSP_v7.3.0.0_ncp-uart-hw_115200.gbl

sour shadow
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If that's the one you download and use, yes

dire owl
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its the latest version

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as of June 7th

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for SkyConnect

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cheers

tranquil mica
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can anyone tell me what the numbers mean on the Zigbee Coordinator Topology Map, there are lines connecting the various devices, routers, endpoints, etc, and there are some numbers on the lines, like 126/122. what does this mean?

carmine hamlet
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It's the Link Qualtiy Indicator (LQI) for that link

sour shadow
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That's the LQI, a scale of 0 to 255

tranquil mica
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🤔 higher = better?

sour shadow
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Yes, ish

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How the numbers are calculated is down to the device, and the coordinator chipset, and ... it's just a very rough thing

tranquil mica
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thx. i ordered some more "router" type devices to flesh out the mesh a bit, some of my endpoints are dropping off network daily and its getting frustrating

sour shadow
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If the devices work then the LQI is irrelevant. If they don't work, it's also irrelevant

dire owl
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trying to update the stick....when copying and pasting in the terminal (SSH addon), i found it does not work well with ctl + C and ctl + V, is there some trick....like holding shift or something

dire owl
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for this part

$ universal-silabs-flasher --device <serial-path> \
    flash --allow-cross-flashing --firmware <firmware-file>

I noticed that after the \ there is a line break, not sure how to do that in terminal?

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or is it all one line?

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never mind...removed that \ and made it one line and its now updating

sour shadow
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The purpose of the \ is to allow you to continue the command on another line

molten linden
tender orchid
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depends on what ?

molten linden
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115200

heady phoenix
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so if I have it right, if I use a sonoff zigbee dongle ... I can ditch the Aqara Hub's and connect the devices directly?

astral seal
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Yeah.
That's like, half the point of home assistant, eliminating proprietary hubs.

dire owl
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Interesting thing happened, I tried to add an Ikea Tradfri 2 button on/off switch via a relay (its DC powered and router so i added via this device), it was not adding so I pressed the switch on and off and it was turning the relay on and off 😁

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ZHA SkyConnect

untold needle
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Hello, is there anyone who used heavily zigbee bind? I like the idea of having some switch working independently of Home Assistant.

bold nymph
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If I want to change the server I'm using, I'll just make a back up of my HA and restore it in the new server, but what about the zigbee coordinator?

Do I just unplug it and plug it into the new one, or is there more to it?

untold needle
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I assume you use ZHA?

untold needle
bold nymph
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No, I'm using Z2M

untold needle
bold nymph
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yes

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using Mosquitto

untold needle
bold nymph
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so just make sure the I transfered the /data, then just unplug it and plug it to the new server?

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great then thanks a lot

untold needle
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I don’t use addons. I don’t know what backup/restore strategy they have in place

bold nymph
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are you running HA core ?

untold needle
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I am not an exemple of simplicity 😂. I have a Homelab running k8s

bold nymph
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Nope, I'm not at that level yet 😅

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I'm just planning to move from my old laptop running HAOS, to a server with proxmox

tulip patrol
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Hello all, anyone have experience with the sonoff zbmini-l (no neutral) switch losing connectivity with ZHA. It still shows the state of the switch correctly but is unable to control it. Running ZHA with silabs multiprotocol add-on

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I have to re-pair it constantly

astral seal
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I have one of those and I do not have that problem.
How far is the closest routing device? How far is your coordinator? How many walls are between the ZBMINI-L2 and either of those things?
Is your dongle on a USB extension or is it plugged directly into your machine?
What sources of possible interference can you identify, ie WiFi router, BT devices, SSDs near or between the device and the closest router and/or your coordinator?
If it shows the state correctly but you're unable to control the device, you've likely got interference or poor mesh causing packet loss.
Check your logs, you'll probably see 225 no route or 223 mac no ack.

bleak sky
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Hello all. I have a handful of ikea tradfri 2 button switches. One of them is reporting battery different from the rest (255% with a new battery vs 100%). I noticed that the firmware appears different than other switches. Having issues updating it. It says no file exists. Is OTA updates broken for tradfri? Does HA have the latest firmware from ikea?

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Is there any way to check?

tulip patrol
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@astral seal it's connects to a hue bulb router, 1 wall between switch and hue bulb. No interference, dongle is on USB cable. No SSD

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which is strange because the coordinator is closer than the hue bulb

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it shows the route in the connection map

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seems to be working atm.. it's intermittent

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Just seeing if anyone else is having issues with this particular device. It might be worthwhile deleting it completely and re-pairing it

astral seal
bleak sky
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Is there anything consistent for versions between switches though? Seems like firmware versions are all mismatched between each switch...

tulip patrol
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just as an FYI, I'm pinging a thread device on the other side of the house connected to the same radio and channel as ZHA

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replys <100ms consistently

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and no other devices ever going offline

astral seal
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What error codes show in your log when you try to control the switch but it doesn't respond?

tulip patrol
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Just in the standard system log? I might have to enable debug logging

bleak sky
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Hrm.... it seems as some of my other switches are updating, but not this one. Two have matching firmware now, and it seems as if something has downloaded, whereas before the only error on my tail command was "no file found"....

heady phoenix
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Do they sell zigbee boosters?

carmine hamlet
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It's a mesh network. What is your goal?

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Most wall-powered devices act as routers

heady phoenix
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Yeah I’m using apara devices so I don’t think those repeat

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I’ve got a few instances where the apara device is too far from the usb dongle I guess

carmine hamlet
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If they're not battery powered, they probably do

maiden vapor
carmine hamlet
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In any case, and add some wall-powered devices

eager bloom
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Hello everyone, i'm trying to submit a new device setting because i have some zigbee lamps not controllable out of the box

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i've read documentation on zigbee2mqtt website but i have some questions about configuring new devices unsupported

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any can help me?

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ZIGBEE2MQTT NOT SURE this is the right channel

tulip cargo
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Does anyone know of a Zigbee dimmer module which will work with a rocker switch. Can’t to seem to find one

tranquil mica
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Can anyone help me with my mesh? I dont understand whats wrong with it.

I have 1 Gateway (coordinator), 4 routers, and 2 endpoints. Everything is connected in the Topology except for 1 endpoint device, a Sonoff Door Sensor. This particular sensor is actually extremely important to my daily life and I really need it to be stable. Lately its been dropping off my network at random, sometimes it will stay on for 8+ hours (my typical work shift) and then sometimes it will disconnect every hour or so, and the only fix is to crack it open to get to the pairing button and re-pair it.

The Gateway is in another room separated by a hallway (roughly 40-50 feet), in that same room I have 2 router devices that get good connectivity, in the hallway I have another router device, and there is 1 more router device in the room with the Door Sensor. I also have other Sonoff products in the room with the door sensor, and those are stable and show a solid line between them and my router devices. But the Door Sensor just wont show a solid line between it and any Router / Gateway.

What can I do to solve this problem?

grim igloo
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sonoff end devices are known to suck and most people just avoid them for this exact type of scenario

tranquil mica
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🤔

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what door sensor should I use them? I need it to be very small and very lightweight

grim igloo
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their coordinators are fine (i use one) although there have been a handful of issues

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the aqara zigbee 3.0 ones are popular and work well

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the cheaper aqara zigbee 1.2 ones work well too but dont get new routes as you'd expect them to so you pair them to the router closest to them and they do pretty well

tranquil mica
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🤔 i searched them on amazon just now, but they are all very expensive Bundles, I only need 1 door Sensor by itself

grim igloo
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i have a bunch of the cheap ones

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you can buy direct from ali e too

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otherwise i guess the new gen e1 or w/e are only in bundles on amazon

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cuz money

tranquil mica
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🤔 when you say "pair to the nearest router" what do you mean? how do I do that? can Sonoffs do that?

grim igloo
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i have one of the old models linked above in my mailbox and it triggers 100% of the time even tho closest bulb is pretty damn far away

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idk how to do it in zha, but in z2m you just select the router you want to pair it to before turning pairing on

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has nothing to do with the coordinator or sonoff or whatever

tranquil mica
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🤔 ill try googling it a bit, if i could pair to the router inside the room, it might solve my problem

grim igloo
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lol

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links back to the beginning of the conversation

tranquil mica
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lol sorry, im genuinly trying to learn, im still new to a lot of this stuff

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i just figured theres a setting somewhere that i just didnt know about

grim igloo
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if you have a device that sucks, it's gonna suck no matter what you do

tranquil mica
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well, it doesnt suck, most of the time, sometimes it will work for long periods of time, then it cuts out

grim igloo
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if it didnt suck you wouldnt be here

tranquil mica
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and i dont understand why, its just not connecting to the close router

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sigh...guess im buying ANOTHER device...

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thx for the suggestion, i am gonna buy the aqara

astral seal
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In ZHA, to pair via a specific router you will
Remove the device
Select your router under your Zigbee devices
Hit the three dots over to the right of where it says "reconfigure" under device info
And "add devices via this device"
Put your sensor into pairing mode
And let it do its thing

azure narwhal
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How does one change the Zigbee2MQTT channel? I've started to get Data request failed with error: MAC channel access failure` But changing the channel cause Zigbee2MQTT because a config mismatch, help please?

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guess impossible without re-pairing all my devices, jeez...

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some of zigbee devices now lag

heady phoenix
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Omg I just realized that the Phillips hue devices are just zigbee devices and the lights can all act as hubs

lilac wharf
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Routers (repeaters), not hubs, but yeah

heady phoenix
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Yeah I’ve got a sonoff plugged into the HA

tranquil mica
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it seems the endpoints refuse to connect to the routers, and will only connect to the coordinator

astral seal
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Did you hold down the pairing button on the end device until the light flashed? I don't have any of their entry sensors, but I have a couple of the temp and humidity ones (they're OK at reading temp but absolutely terrible on the humidity side) and you have to hold the button until the light flashes.

tranquil mica
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i have Door Sensor and Temp Sensor

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niether will pair to a Router

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they only pair to the coordinator

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I removed my Temp Sensor from Devices, took out the battery, waited a min or 2, put battery in, clicked the 3 dots on the router Inside the Room, hit Add Device, pushed the button on the temp sensor for 5 seconds until the light flashed a few times, sat the sensor literally ontop of the Router Device, waited a while and eventually HA gave me the "nothing was found, make sure you have pressed the pairing button"

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Did the exact same thing but first selected the Coordinator, pairs in like 10 seconds

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trying again....

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it seems to me to either be an issue with Sonoff in general, or an issue with these Router devices (which are also Sonoff)

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yah its not finding it at all, which makes no sense, its like the Routers can only talk to other Routers/Gateway and Endpoints can only talk to Gateway

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so...what is even the point of labeling them as Routers lol

tulip patrol
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@tranquil mica I have sonoff endpoints that connect to routers (hue) and I'm using zbdongle-e

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I paired everything through the coordinator initially, it then determined the mesh routes

tranquil mica
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how? i literally cannot get this to do it

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like it just wont

tulip patrol
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not sure how it works in that regard, but someone will and they should chime in when they see it

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also, I didn't see if you are using ZHA? and do you know which firmware you are running on your coordinator?

tranquil mica
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zha

tulip patrol
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ok, with zbdongle-e ?

tranquil mica
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https://sonoff.tech/product/gateway-and-sensors/sonoff-zigbee-3-0-usb-dongle-plus-p/
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i have this dongle

tulip patrol
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ahh zbdongle-p

tranquil mica
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build 20210708

tulip patrol
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that's a different chipset to the zbdongle-e, but as I said someone will know what the issue is when they see it

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2 year old firmware hmmmmmm

tranquil mica
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i dont know how to update it

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i dont even see where to find new firmware on their site

tulip patrol
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he's got the resources too

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links to them I should say

tranquil mica
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welp...i took it apart...got the flash software....got the firmware

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and my stick is not being detected

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......

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ive retried it multiple times now

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it does not detect my drive...ever

tulip patrol
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maybe you need the drivers for it?

grim igloo
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took it apart lol

tranquil mica
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🤔 no where in his video does he talk about drivers

grim igloo
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use the python method

tulip patrol
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from the description: If you cannot see the Dongle in the flashing software, make sure that you install the drivers for the Dongle first.

grim igloo
tulip patrol
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woops

carmine hamlet
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I had to install the cp210x driver on my Mac and use the serial port device that it exposes

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It exposed a device by default, but it didn't work

grim igloo
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ya a lot of people have these installed already from messing with arduino/esp8266/esp32 etc

tranquil mica
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got it.

grim igloo
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they're packaged inside installers usually

tranquil mica
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-.-; ok. now it wont go into bootloader mode

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i tried pushing the button once, i tried holding the button for 10 seconds

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it just keeps saying unable to flash, not in bootloader mode

grim igloo
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suggests the python method again

tulip patrol
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looks like here you don't need to have it in bootloader mode

tranquil mica
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ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20230507.hex'

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-.-;

tulip patrol
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you might have to run the command in the same directory that contains that file.hex

tranquil mica
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i did

tulip patrol
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no such file or directory though

tranquil mica
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ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20230507.hex'

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hang on

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C:\Users\Administrator>python.exe C:\Users\Administrator\Downloads\cc2538-bsl-master\cc2538-bsl.py --bootloader-sonoff-usb -p COM4 -evw CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20230507.hex
sonoff
Opening port COM4, baud 500000
Reading data from CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20230507.hex
Your firmware looks like an Intel Hex file
ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20230507.hex'

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its in there

tulip patrol
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can you enter the directory and run python.exe from there?

tranquil mica
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LOL now i get a message saying "this app cant run on your pc"

tulip patrol
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instead of specifying the path

tranquil mica
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bruh..i dont even know anymore

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cd "C:\Users\Administrator\Downloads\cc2538-bsl-master"

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OK its doing it

carmine hamlet
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The reason is probably 'windows'

tranquil mica
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holy jeezus crackers....

tulip patrol
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see the reason is not following the instructions

tranquil mica
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it says it did it...

tulip patrol
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well it did it

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congratulations

grim igloo
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it was a 50/50 shot either fucking it up or succeeding

tranquil mica
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HA zigbee integration wont initialize...do i need to remove it???

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nvm. im trying reconfig

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well..GGs....it seems to be bricked now

tulip patrol
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what happens when you plug the dongle into your windows PC? Is it recognised?

tranquil mica
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HA detects it, attempts to load it, gets to "loading next step for zigbee home automation" and then Errors

tulip patrol
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you might try unplugging the dongle, deleting the integration, reboot the host, plug in radio once HA has started

tranquil mica
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phew...switching from a 3.0 port to a 2.0 port fixed it....which makes no sense...but ok

half cradle
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any idea how to manually set a group ID? ZHA

molten linden
half cradle
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yea, i was just scrolling that page,

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odd remote, for my daughter, so its fine. I have no problem hard coding her lights

molten linden
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Tested a similar one - only way to really use it was binding to a device or group

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If you can get to a ha command line like the terminal app or something you can also do something like this:

# 
$ hass-cli raw ws zha/group/add --json='{"group_name": "Test 0xF993", "group_id": 63891, "members": [{"ieee": "00:12:4b:00:1c:a1:b8:46", "endpoint_id": 1}]}'
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That adds a group and adds the device with the ieee to it

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Been a while since it messed with this

half cradle
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@molten linden it is late, so i tried a quick c/p before bed

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but i forgot the h, so ass-cli was not found

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i get what i deserve

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going to bed, it "shouldn't" be that hard.

molten linden
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Agree, but also the id shouldn’t really matter and if it does a quirk should take care of it

heady phoenix
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hmm ... is ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT better / more functional for getting at everything?

half cradle
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@molten linden seems completely hard coded, it doesnt even send through HA

molten linden
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I was messing with Lutron aurora and it was sending on/off presses to a group ID. I sniffed it and was trying to add my coord to the same group

half cradle
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because why else would you care what your coord is on

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good news is its documented my remote is on

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well, i could then only use one zone.

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Obviously you can only have 1 FUT089Z remote per Zigbee network as it always command groups with 101 to 108 ID

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oh, what is the remote, right? im going to sleep

molten linden
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Same.

trail aspen
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Anyone able to get the TS1201/TZ3290 zigbee to IR remote control thing to work? using ZHA

full gale
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does anyone has any reference on whether ZHA will ever support OTA for hue automatically? so essentially a similar functionality to z2mqt has? (e.g. a roadmap of some sort)

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updating HUE via ZHA is quite uncomfortable .. you need to cherry pick the image, find the exact model manually, load the files in a directory, etc ..

bold nymph
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Some exposes in z2m for my smart plug such as voltage and current isn’t showing in HA, is there a fix?

sour shadow
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Did you check the device page to see if it's disabled?

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Not everything is enabled by default

bold nymph
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How do I enable them?

sour shadow
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Are they disabled?

ashen bluff
valid rivet
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I have a weird bug where my rgb color temperature is inverted, I have a zigbee controller wire to the led strips. Any ideas?

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When I set it to cool in HA, it sets it to warm

sour shadow
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Did you check to see that the light isn't mis-wired?

valid rivet
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I'm using RGB CCT, is it Yellow to WW and White to CW?

sour shadow
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There are ... dozens if not hundreds of controllers, and hundreds if not thousands of strips

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And that's not covering the possibility of them being mis-wired

valid rivet
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It does appear that it's incorrectly wired

dawn holly
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Is there anything that has seen anything similar to this issue? I'm pulling my hair out trying to diagnose zigbee issues. For starters, I have a sonoff switch at my desk that activates 3 different scenes. It had been working perfectly until recently where suddenly, it won't run the automations. I can look in HA's log book at see the switch event being fired but it doesn't trigger the automation. Strangely though, if I go to the automation, change something about it - like have one click activate a different scene and save it, suddenly the entire animation works

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Also, I've been trying to get motion sensors working with no long term luck. I had a cheap sonoff motion sensor in my bathroom and a simple automation to turn on the zigbee light when it detects motion. After a day or two, the sensor would just become unavailable and I'd have to re-pair it. So I figured ok, maybe it is a cheap sensor and went out and got a more expensive Samotech one. Same issue - it works perfectly for a day, maybe even a few days, but when stops activating the automation. Unlike the other sensor, it doesn't go unavailable, but it stops reporting accurately - HA says it is "clear" when it's clearly not - have to re-pair and start over

grim igloo
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You can’t fire an automation and have it trigger if it’s already running. When you change something and save it, it’s no longer running, so that makes sense why it would work

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My guess is your automation is using some long delay

dawn holly
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I have no idea what is causing these issues. I've tried about everything I can thing of. The zigbee dongle is on a new very long shielded extention cable and I even added a few extra power switch repeaters to help

dawn holly
grim igloo
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Log time

dawn holly
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I'm not sure I know what you mean by "trigger when it's already running" - clicking the switch is the trigger and it's not something that "runs" - it activates a scene and that's it

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So um, any other ideas?

astral seal
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Nah. This is an issue with your system. My whole house is mostly Zigbee, I have buttons and a motion sensor, and I'm not having any problems. Worst thing I've dealt with lately was having to reset and re-pair my deadbolt after I did a channel change.

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Let's see those logs. When things go wrong, there will be something in the logs explaining it.

fringe sedge
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I’m using sky connect for my zigbee hub but my signal isn’t able to reach the garage… I’ve heard that the ikea smart outlet can be used as an extender. Are there any other options for extenders?

sour shadow
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Almost any smart plug

astral seal
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Most mains powered Zigbee devices. Any plug will work, some bulbs, you just have to check, and many smart switches provided they're the ones that require a neutral wire.

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You just have to see if the device specifications from the manufacturer say "end device" or "router" or "repeater".

frigid quartz
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Anyone using z2m and not all actions of a device is showing up in HA?

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I have a IKEA 4 way button and the left hold and left release doesn't show up

sour shadow
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That's pretty normal

frigid quartz
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Hi again 😁

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Is there a way to solve it or make it better?

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My left hold and release actually never appeared in HA and in z2m these actions are published

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Also tried to remove and repair a few times in HA and they never appear

sour shadow
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It's likely a bug with HA, maybe open an issue shrug

frigid quartz
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I see thakns

grim igloo
sour shadow
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I've certainly noticed that HA's list of possible states (in the UI editor) is often/usually incomplete - and there's been many similar reports

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The feature where it auto-populates that seems to be unreliable

frigid quartz
grim igloo
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ya then i'd open an issue wherever it's broken

frigid quartz
grim igloo
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ikea needs to be taken out back and shot for their naming of products

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"the air quality sensor" oh you mean the "vindstyrka"

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😦

frigid quartz
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I have also encountered another bug. But that's on the z2m side. All my devices' avaiablity is "disabled" but I use all devices just fine

frigid quartz
carmine hamlet
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If by 'appear' you mean in devtools -> States or in the automation UI, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

grim igloo
carmine hamlet
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actions are often ephemeral

frigid quartz
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maybe you can let someone else know about this fun fact over a beer

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Nah just kidding

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😁

frigid quartz
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There all my devices' availability are shown as disabled but they are definitely not disabled

carmine hamlet
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I don't know how to interpret most of that. I'm talking about the sensor entity you mentioned earlier

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What Z2M says doesn't matter here

frigid quartz
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okay but I thought developer tools - state thing is a complete list of all entities

heady kayak
grim igloo
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idk i'm happy knowing one language to communicate with

carmine hamlet
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My point is that the names of the actions in the docs will probably show up in the action entity

astral seal
carmine hamlet
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Depends on the device and how Z2M exposes it. Here's an example of one of mine:

  - id: kit_lights_switch
    alias: Kit Lights Switch
    initial_state: true
    mode: queued
    trigger_variables:
      map:
        up_single: "on"
        down_single: "off"
    trigger:
      - platform: state
        entity_id:
          - sensor.kit_fr_action
          - sensor.kit_dr_action
    condition: "{{ trigger.to_state.state in map }}"
    action:
      - service: homeassistant.turn_{{ map[trigger.to_state.state] }}
        entity_id:
          - light.kit_overhead_scene
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the action sensors momentarily reflect the action when the button is pressed and then immediately go back to blank

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that's all more complicated than it needs to be, but hopefully it gets the point across

frigid quartz
carmine hamlet
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ok

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the point is that you should use the action sensor in a state trigger testing for the values in the docs

frigid quartz
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A state triger? Not a device trigger? In the state trigger once I select this sensor action entity it doens't give me any options in the attribute or from to

carmine hamlet
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you never need device triggers

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ever

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type what you want

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ignore what's in the list

frigid quartz
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So in the state trigger entity, I choose this sensor.0x943469fffec8d2eb_action, then in the to section, I choose an action as documented at z2m for example brightness_stop?

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Not choose an action since it doesn't give me a list so I have to type it in myself?

carmine hamlet
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yes

frigid quartz
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okay then probablly there's a bug since all avaiable actions are not showing for entity but for device

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but anyways

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Now I also know why you should not use device trigger but state trigger

carmine hamlet
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it has no idea what all the possible states are

frigid quartz
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I don't understand. Why does the device know but not the entity?

carmine hamlet
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because devices in HA are made-up things that contain knowledge of the device and are very limited

frigid quartz
carmine hamlet
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that too

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just don't ever use devices for anything and be explicit about what you want

frigid quartz
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sure thanks

gray pumice
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Hey all

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I was sent here from automation

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Okay - So I dont know whether this is the right place or not - but Im going crazy here. I have 5 aqara zigbee plug, they all have NO automation attached. Today some of my buttons suddenly startede to turn the 2 of the plugs on and off!. As I can tell they are in no way attached...:S

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The logbook states:

Stue - Sofalampe (Sonoff-ZBMINI) Light turned off triggered by automation Stueknap - 1 Tryk triggered by event 'zha_event'
22:40:32 - Now
Stue - Lampe v. TV - Minirelæ (Sonoff-ZBR3) Switch turned off triggered by automation Stueknap - 1 Tryk triggered by event 'zha_event'
22:40:32 - 1 second ago
Køkken (Bag sonos) - Repeater (Aqara) Switch turned off
22:40:32 - 1 second ago
Stueknap - 1 Tryk triggered by event 'zha_event'
manic thistle
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Hi. Trying to set up a Conbee II with ZHA. Conbee is not auto discovered with HA on a Pi. Try to install ZHA manually but don't know to type for the serial path...?

trail aspen
manic thistle
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Yes with haos

trail aspen
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is the device a USB

manic thistle
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Yes terminal installed. Conbee II is a USB Device

trail aspen
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do lsusb which list the usb devices connected

astral seal
gray pumice
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It seems empty

gray pumice
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I'm trying to downgrade the fw for the round aqara plug with no luck

upbeat cape
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Im having issues with my zigbee network. I was using tuya wifi hub, just the cheapest thing i could find.
I bought some led strips to act as routers, and a bunch of sensors. Mainly pirs, contacta, and temp/humidity sensors.
everything has been going sweet for over a year, all my sensors trigger when expected everything was sunshine.
then just recently tuya's servers that gave updates to HA started to play up, with many ppl fustrated.
So i finally made the decision to jump to ZHA and bought a skyconnect.
But when i started to pair all the routers to the skyconnect i noticed the network starting to fall apart.
everything is in the same spot, i even added more extension to the usb cable to put the skyconnect in the same spot the tuya hub was.
*i have followed the guidelines as best i can
*i even moved my wifi channels over to make room
*turned of all other zigbee networks
*using a usb 2.0 port with 2.0 cables

  • skyconnect is as far away from the router as the tuya wifi hub was
  • checked with a wifi anylizer, no other conflicting wifi networks around the 20 - 25 zigbee channel
  • tried both channel 20 and 25

Im about to try a ikea plug, i heard they are good repeaters but after that i dont know what to try.
I dont feel like i should need it though as the tuya wifi hub had no issues.

gray pumice
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Anyone here who has been able to downgrade a zigbee device fw ?

manic thistle
trail aspen
manic thistle
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Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002, Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2109:3431, Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003

trail aspen
manic thistle
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no it is plugged directly into the USB2 port of the pi

trail aspen
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then the pi seems to be not seeing the usb device

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I am not that familiar with pi but I am familiar with linux

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the OS is only seeing the Linux Foundation hub(1st and 3rd output) and the 2nd is a VIA Labs Hub which I assumes is the built in hub of the pi

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have you tried the USB thing on other computers?

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or plugging something else into the same port. such as a keyboard.

manic thistle
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Okay.I think this is only the problem that it doesn't see it. I tried earlier with deconz and phoscan on my win10 machine and here it works fine. However when inserting it into the pi the deconz and phoscan app (I tried this earlier on the Pi but was advised the try with ZHA) does not register it as a conbee II stick but as a Raspbee and it can not see the firmware version.

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Okay will try with a keyboard. Should I try lsusb again to if it picks it up?

trail aspen
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I am not sure if there will be a login prompt on HA OS Pi though

manic thistle
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It is running headless

gray pumice
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Anyone here who has been able to downgrade a zigbee device fw ?

gray pumice
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Im trying to do this though z2m but I can't even get it up and running

manic thistle
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I did a firmware upgrade on a conbee ii but I used my win10 machine to do this. Found the instruction for my device online.

sour shadow
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Upgrades are "easy" (not necessarily recommended, but easy enough). Downgrades can be hard/impossible

manic thistle
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learned something new today!

manic thistle
frigid quartz
#

I have a zigbee device that corresponding to the control in HA takes 2 seconds. That's a bit long. Is there a way for me to see what's taking so long maybe a breakdown of time step by step?

sour shadow
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ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?

frigid quartz
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device setup in z2m

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and control is in HA

sour shadow
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Start wth the Logbook, see when HA received the message

frigid quartz
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It's a button long press so basically HA just recieve the action once and then it keeps changing the device (a lamp) brightness. There I found if I make the delay in the repeat process <2s then HA doesn't get the updated brightness so it keeps using the old value

rapid dawnBOT
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Sadly we're not mind readers (any more anyway, not after the last time we tried). Please share the YAML and any errors so we can see what you've done.

sour shadow
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This sounds like a layer 8 problem - aka it's in what you did

frigid quartz
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For example if instead of 2s I ask HA to repeat the control every 1s then in the trace it does repeat the process every 1s but since each repeat do the control based on the previous value of the light and if in 1s that number is not updated yet so it just keeps asking the lamp to keep the same brightness instead of gradually changing

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I will share the code

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Sorry I can't share the code for the moment since I'm not home. Thought there will be a cached vesion in the HA app

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Never mind, I will ask again later when I have the code

trail aspen
jagged ivy
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One of my Aqara door sensors disconnects pretty regularly and I'm reasonably sure it's because of how far it is from my dongle. Does anyone have suggestions for Zigbee devices that could go in a laundry room, kitchen, or dining room, that could act as a relay to expand my mesh?

sour shadow
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Any Zigbee plug will do

jagged ivy
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Any suggestions in the US? Not sure I have anything that I need to be plugged in right now, but depending on price, I'm willing to have something that just plugs in and doesn't serve a purpose other than relay

sour shadow
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If Innr do a US model then buy one of those

jagged ivy
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Looks like they've got them on Amazon! I'll check them out. Thanks.

open dirge
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Hi, I'm having problems with getting Skyconnect to recognise any of my zigbee devices after transferring from a Conbee II (using ZHA). I followed the instructions as laid out on the official page on how to migrate. None of the existing devices (powered or battery) are being reconnected (although zha shows a topology with all the devices there).
What I have noticed is that on the ZHA Integration/configure/groups details that I have two entries for the Silicon Labs EZSP (endpoints 1 & 80) and both have no associated end points
I'm running home assistant OS on an intel NUC, and the skyconnect usb is connected via the supplied cable.

upbeat cape
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after giving it power again, of course

open dirge
# upbeat cape if you pull the power from the offending device does it come back online for a w...

It's all devices. I tried the power off/on again for one device (Hue LCT001 light), but that seemed to make no difference. I then put it in pair mode using a hue dimmer and set ZHA to search for devices. It found the device and I left it with the same device name, but this did not seem to fix the issue. So, I tried the same procedure again, but this time changed the device name when it was discovered, which seemed to fix the issue.

upbeat cape
open dirge
willow bronze
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Hi, I use ZHA and I have a smart plug that occasionally drops reported power to 0 for a few seconds, which breaks my automations. Is there a way to reduce its poll rate somehow so that this doesn't happen?
I know in zigbee2mqtt this can be solved by setting the "debounce" attribute, but idk how to do that in ZHA

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If not, could this be done with a threshold sensor? I don't see a debounce or delay attribute for it but maybe it's undocumented

burnt reef
#

hi i actually switching from deconz to z2m. For controlling my lights (with the opple 6 gang switch) i tried to use this (Controller - Xiaomi WXCJKG13LM Aqara Opple 6 button remote) blueprint, but when i keep the button pressed the light will dim one stepp and then freeze... had anyone the same problem?

dire owl
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Hi all, a few days ago I updated my SkyConnect Firmware (ZHA) to 7.3.0.0.
Now, on every restart, i get these 4 errors messages:
http://pastie.org/p/1DsOISMMS5JIyKW6JJIPZW
Nothing changed other than the firmware. I believe I was running 7.2.2.0 before updating to 7.3.0.0

manic thistle
frigid quartz
burnt reef
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it seems that it spams my z2m instance

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i saw hundreds of messages changing the brightness in my log in the same second.

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for now i reverted all to deconz but i have an sonoff usb stick to so there are 2 networks at the same time and that is what i dont want any more

heady phoenix
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trying to puzzle why this aqara door sensor won't send back status, figured it was distance so got a philips hue light put in between HA usb and the sensor, which seemed to work (but the hue light has to be on), so got a few sonoff zigbee outlets but those don't seem to help at all?

i know when I had the aqara hub it worked great, maybe because it was also connected to Wi-Fi?

Is there a better way of getting the extension? or could it be something i'm doing wrong with the sonoff outlets?

sour shadow
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When you pair (pre Zigbee 3.0) Aqara devices then they use the first device they hear from, even if the signal sucks

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Always pair them through a nearby router

spice iris
#

Hi! It's possible to use the phillips hue bridge as a zigbee hub?

lilac wharf
#

Not as a generic hub, no

#

You could use it with the hue integration in HA though

austere patio
dire owl
#

No just ZHA

spice iris
lilac wharf
#

You'll only be able to connect Hue and "Friends of Hue" devices to it though

#

And some other smart plugs or lights that use zigbee 3.0 or zigbee light link

spice iris
#

Great

#

Thanks!!!

lilac wharf
#

🤔

sour shadow
#

And you're at the mercy of the Hub and firmware updates

#

It's not a great choice, but don't let us stop you making it 😛

spice iris
#

No, no hahaha

#

It's just to test

heady phoenix
lilac wharf
#

Router is the official zigbee term for a repeater

sour shadow
weary kettle
#

Anyone connected sky connect to a Sonoff zigbee router?

frigid quartz
#

I heard that in the past year or 2 xiaomi has dropped support of zigbee in their newest gateways.

#

How would this influence the market?

sour shadow
#

They're still producing new Zigbee kit

#

FUD strikes again

frigid quartz
#

What is FUD?

heady kayak
#

Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt.

grim igloo
#

i thought that was the sound you make after hitting your elbow

heady kayak
#

It's a marketing thing, to discourage the use of the target

#

Like Microsoft telling you that if you use Linux, you're going to have to GPL all your stuff

#

Or you'll be sued

frigid quartz
#

okay I'm asking only to see if it's wise now to buy more zigbee devices.

#

if they are dropping the support then probabally it's not a good idea to buy more

heady kayak
#

They're still being supported by major firms. so yes

astral seal
#

It's always wise to buy more Zigbee devices.

#

Jokes aside Zigbee isn't going anywhere any time soon.

frigid quartz
#

Okay good to know

#

To be honest for smart home I think BLE will be more common than zigbee in the future

#

The reason is just for zigbee you need additional devices and every phone has a bluetooth chip

heady kayak
#

BLE doesn't mesh, does it?

#

And for a well designed smart home, the number of inputs you need is pretty minimal.

grim igloo
heady kayak
#

and I really don't want to get my phone out to control it

sour shadow
#

Thread will eventually be more common, in 2 5 or more years

grim igloo
heady kayak
#

😄 Kind of defeats the doesn't need additional devices 😉

grim igloo
#

it's not the same as meshing in the zigbee sense anyways it's just the ability to add a "mesh" err wireless coverage of bluetooth with said devices across the house

trail aspen
#

I have a zigbee light. There is a problem. The color temperature slider is wrong. Wrong as in the range of the slider does not match the actual supported color temperature range, causing only part of the slider works, and sliding outside the range does nothing. How can I fix this?

grim igloo
#

What device is it

trail aspen
#

zigbee light

grim igloo
#

What model I mean

trail aspen
#

CL001

grim igloo
#

Some tuya one?

trail aspen
#

no

grim igloo
#

Using zha or z2m?

trail aspen
#

zha

grim igloo
#

Might need a quirk. Any open issues on GitHub?

trail aspen
#

don't think so

#

let me see

#

which repo?

#

yup, zero issue unless it don't have the keywords I searched for

grim igloo
#

when i search "cl001 zigbee" i dont find a product. what is the product?

trail aspen
#

like, what?

grim igloo
#

link to where you bought it i guess

violet dagger
#

is it a Terncy light?

grim igloo
#

i just looked on your site and "CL001" search shows nothing too

violet dagger
#

it's not supported

trail aspen
grim igloo
#

clicks link to random domain i've never seen before

#

waits for it to load

#

it failed

#

lol

violet dagger
#

you're not chinese 😄

grim igloo
#

./giphy unless

trail aspen
#

it might require a login

grim igloo
#

nah it doesnt resolve

violet dagger
grim igloo
#

maybe adguard blocks it

trail aspen
#

no it is rectangle

violet dagger
#

yay, another model number used for different devices

trail aspen
#

but it does has a circular model?

#

looks similar to my light

trail aspen
#

any idea?

#

basically everything else works except the slider

#

which gets annoying when you want to change the thing

violet dagger
#

does the device say its using a quirk?

trail aspen
#

where can I check?

violet dagger
#

in the device card

trail aspen
#

nope

#

don't see the word quirk in the page

violet dagger
#

then it needs one

trail aspen
#

any documentation on how to make one that does the range limit thing?

violet dagger
trail aspen
#

hmm

#

looks simple to me but no idea where to start

#

where do I even get the signature

molten linden
#

go to the device page, hit the 3 dots, select manage device, and signiture will be in a tab. it's also in the diagnostics download for the device.

bold plume
#

Hello

I have some issues with Ikea Tradfri [single button] switches.
I am able to pair them trough ZHA. but it does not detect any button presses.

the ON/OFF version does work fine just like the STYRBAR, and button presses are detected.

Zigbee adapter: "Sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb dongle type-E"

Any suggestions that I can use to get the single button switches to work.

trail aspen
molten linden
#

sorry paraphrased - manage zigbee device

trail aspen
#

ah found it

#

I thought you meant the outside main device list page

#

how can I replace the available color temperature range?

#

and disable RGB, which the light does not actually support

mellow geode
mellow geode
#

that would be defined in _CONSTANT_ATTRIBUTES too

trail aspen
trail aspen
grim igloo
#

Tbk you always have the fun questions lol

#

Homelab or otherwise

trail aspen
#

yes

#

it's not like I want those issue to appear though

grim igloo
#

Yea lol

mellow geode
#

(it should use the new "zigpy codestyle" to access the attribute ids, but that'll still work)

trail aspen
#

got it, will try those in a few hours, family still sleeping

mellow geode
trail aspen
#

sure, why not

digital thunder
#

What does it mean when something "needs" to be integrated through zigbee2mqtt? How is that different than just going to my zigbee devices and "adding" a new device?

trail aspen
grim igloo
digital thunder
#

Wtf are those things? I just passed the zigbee adapter through to my HA VM and it worked, I jsut started adding zigbee devices

grim igloo
#

Well then you’re using zha aka zigbee Home automation

#

Not z2m

#

They’re different programs

violet dagger
#

zigbee2mqtt is another way to add zigbee devices you're probably not interested in

digital thunder
#

Well I bought a device that requires it

#

(unknowingly)

grim igloo
#

Sucks lol

#

Although probably not accurate

violet dagger
#

it doesn't require it

digital thunder
#

The magic cube thingy

violet dagger
#

the aqara magic cube?

digital thunder
#

Yep

#

Thought it looked cool, wanted to play with it, got as far through the github as "required to be added through zigbee2mqtt"

grim igloo
#

No you’re talking about the blueprint I linked you

digital thunder
#

Yes

violet dagger
#

what?

grim igloo
#

There’s a zha one

digital thunder
#

Oh

#

So question, why would I want the zigbee2mqtt thing?

#

Should I get that server up and running anyway?

#

What kind of devices need it? Why have two different ways to add the same devices?

violet dagger
#

you would want it if a device you bought isn't working with zha but is supported by zigbee2mqtt and you really really want it to work

grim igloo
#

They’re different projects

digital thunder
#

Can I have both?

#

Or are they mutually exclusive?

grim igloo
#

Not on one dongle

digital thunder
#

ah

#

Nevermind then

violet dagger
#

what a silly question. why not have different ways to do things?

grim igloo
#

They use the dongle for communicating with zigbee devices

trail aspen
#

I also have a zigbee IR thing that looks like it got z2m support but no zha yet

digital thunder
grim igloo
violet dagger
#

still silly

grim igloo
#

Sometimes zha has support first

#

Like the aqara cat feeder

violet dagger
#

i use z2m because i want the one that works 🤣

trail aspen
#

TS1201

digital thunder
#

But zha is default on HA?

grim igloo
#

Zha is built into home assistant

trail aspen
#

any idea if any chance of it being added?

violet dagger
#

check github issues if its requested already

trail aspen
#

do see an issue that last comment is 2 months ago

grim igloo
#

You’re at the mercy of the devs man

#

Or community

carmine hamlet
#

The community is you

violet dagger
#

in general zha devices are added at a much slower pace than z2m

trail aspen
#

issue is on zigpy repo

#

zha-device-handlers

grim igloo
digital thunder
#

Ok so do I have to have the blueprint added BEFORE i add the cube as a device?

grim igloo
#

The majority of us are good at lots of things.. not coding

digital thunder
#

Because I'm showing no entities at all for the cube

trail aspen
#

what's the chance lol, last active 15 hours ago

violet dagger
#

the question is whether zha even has the infrastructure to add an IR controller

carmine hamlet
#

I believe that ZHA often just uses events rather than entities

violet dagger
#

cube is event based

grim igloo
#

That’s another reason I like z2m

mellow geode
violet dagger
#

you need the device before the blueprint since blueprint no worky if you can't select the device

trail aspen
#

was going to do it in a few hours 😅

grim igloo
#

Julian is one of the cool kids

digital thunder
#

I try to open the blueprint and I can't save it because I can't select the "active face" entity

trail aspen
#

family is sleeping so can't really test it right now

mellow geode
# trail aspen wow you just coded it?

it might not work lol. There's a "quirk generator" in the zha-device-handlers repo. I don't think it's fully up-to-date, but I have a more up-to-date WIP (standalone) version that I should probably push out, but it will give you a "stub quirk" (doesn't do anything, just detects + applies).

The only thing added in that quirk that actually "does something" is where it overrides the three attributes on the Color cluster. Maybe you can figure out how it works by looking at it and/or playing around with it 😄

violet dagger
digital thunder
#

I added the helper number but things still aren't working. Like, I'm watching a youtube video and it shows them listening for events but nothings shows up when I do that

violet dagger
#

are you sure you have the aqara magic cube?

digital thunder
#

yes, the aqara cube t1 pro

#

I suppose that's not actually "called" the magic cube

grim igloo
#

Does zha even work with the new one?

#

When I suggested it I specifically stated z2m

violet dagger
#

but that's not the magic cube, that's the Cube T1 Pro

#

which isn't supported by zha

grim igloo
#

Fun

#

He’s learning a valuable lesson about explicit words tho

digital thunder
#

Well considering I had no idea what zha and z2m meant, those words meant nothing to me 🙂

grim igloo
#

Then ask?

digital thunder
#

I didn't even know multiple ways existed

#

Why would I ask?

grim igloo
#

Why wouldn’t you

violet dagger
#

its hard to ask the right questions

grim igloo
#

You think people mix in extra words for fun?

digital thunder
#

Because people act like you "Smart" home sellout

#

That's why we don't ask

grim igloo
#

Lmfao

#

You don’t deserve my help

violet dagger
#

and we're on the defensive stage now

grim igloo
#

And you won’t get it now

#

Ever again

digital thunder
#

There's a reason I ignored your friedn request 🙂

grim igloo
#

Never sent one

mystic zealot
digital thunder
#

I apologize that I'm very new to HA, only just installed it 1.5 weeks ago 🙂 Man you guys are a welcoming group 🙂

violet dagger
#

that's not the problem here, not asking questions and giving vague answers is

digital thunder
#

Vague answers how?

#

I'm answering to the best of my ability?

#

I didn't even know the questions to ask?

#

Can you give me an example of a vague answer so I know how to improve in the future?

violet dagger
#

when asked which device try and give a name or model not answer "the magic cube thingy"

digital thunder
#

I didn't know there was more than one?

#

Like, now that I know, the first question I would ask someone who was... new to HA was which magic cube they bought 🙂

violet dagger
#

there are 0 "magic cube thingies"

digital thunder
#

And besides, I got it working anyway. Turns out it does with with zha

violet dagger
#

cool

digital thunder
#

And you're being pedantic. There are exactly two "magic cube thingies" that I could have been referring to. I only knew of one of them.

violet dagger
#

and now you're an expert on magic cube thingies

digital thunder
#

Wonderful, so when someone asks a question about them, please ask them to DM me instead of confusing them and I will be glad to help them with absolutely zero judgement for them being new. 🙂

violet dagger
#

noted

mellow geode
digital thunder
grim igloo
#

Good to know

mellow geode
#

and ZHA should write that attribute when pairing to switch the mode

digital thunder
#

I can program. How is programming for HA? What language even is it?

mellow geode
digital thunder
#

Oh that's easy. I'll have a look.

mellow geode
#

It looks like we already have support for lumi.remote.cagl02 (T1 (Pro)?)

#

yeah, doesn't change the attribute on pairing though

digital thunder
#

Oh I see you can't add triggers in the normal way you would for a normal sensor, you HAVE to use the "magic cube" or whatever automation you added to have it trigger things. Interesting

mellow geode
half cradle
#

@molten linden that remote just connected directly the devices near it btw

#

nothing with the hub needed. which for the purpose of it controlling RGB Lights in my daughters room, was perfect

digital thunder
digital thunder
lavish ridge
#

Has anyone switched from a regular off the shelf Zigbee dongle to the HA Sky connect? If so is it difficult? Anything I should be aware of? Only have like 3 Zigbee devices setup so far.

#

This is what I have been using. == SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB

dire owl
#

With only 3 devices, I would just delete, install and re-pair. Migration is the other option, but it's not always 100%

dreamy marten
#

Hello, I am running a rasp pii with zigbee dongle. I have 34 devices and if I add a 35th I start to lose connectivity on devices. Is there a max on the number of devices you can have ?

astral seal
#

There is but it's a lot higher than 34.

trail aspen
mellow geode
#

The custom quirk file is in a .py file in that custom quirk path folder?

trail aspen
#

yup

mellow geode
#

Can you see if the signature now includes a different "class" at the bottom?

#

zigpy.device.Device means no quirk is applied

trail aspen
#

"class": "zigpy.device.Device"

#

🤔

mellow geode
#

Hmm, that’s weird. You could enable debug logs to see why it doesn’t match

#

On what HA version are you?

trail aspen
#

I think I know why

#

IndentationError: unexpected indent 😅

grim igloo
#

you hate to see it

mellow geode
#

Does it say what line is affected? Did you copy/paste the contents 1:1?

trail aspen
#

yes I did, for some reason it added 4 extra spaces on every single line and I didn't notice

#

trying to fix

rapid dawnBOT
#

@trail aspen I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
trail aspen
#

now I get an actual error

# 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zhaquirks/__init__.py", line 454, in setup
    importer.find_module(modname).load_module(modname)
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 605, in _check_name_wrapper
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 1120, in load_module
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 945, in load_module
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 290, in _load_module_shim
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 721, in _load
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 690, in _load_unlocked
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 940, in exec_module
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 241, in _call_with_frames_removed
  File "/config/zha_quirks/cl001.py", line 30, in <module>
    class CustomColorCluster(CustomCluster, Color):
  File "/config/zha_quirks/cl001.py", line 34, in CustomColorCluster
    Color.AttributeDefs.color_capabilities.id: Color.ColorCapabilities.Color_temperature,
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: type object 'Color' has no attribute 'AttributeDefs'
carmine hamlet
#

seems like you're editing text files in Microsoft Word

trail aspen
#

nah

#

I just copied it from the paste site

#

@mellow geode any idea why Color has no attribute AttributeDefs?

mellow geode
trail aspen
#

right

#

Home Assistant Core
Installed version
2023.6.2

#

Home Assistant Operating System
Installed version
10.2

mellow geode
#

The AttributeDefs stuff is pretty new. I thought it was already merged into current versions, but clearly not

#

Replace it with something like Color.attributes_by_name["color_capabilities"].id

#

For each of the three attributes

heady phoenix
#

whatever happened to the misc setting for Power LED so you can turn the damn thing off :/

trail aspen
#

oops my bad

#

works great now, but how do I know the actual color temperature range supported?

#

currently it is 50 to 500

#

(set by you)

mellow geode
#

Yep, I think that’s what Z2M had for that light

#

You could play around with those values

trail aspen
#

hmm, but 2700 and 2000 does have a different color

#

wrong official spec? :thonk:

upper stirrup
#

Hi, please can someone advice me about exterior curtain switch? I found TuYa TS130F ver. 1 - with touch glass , does anyone have experience? I using Zigbee2mqtt on sonoff dongle plus.

mellow geode
heady phoenix
#

is it possible to use eero devices as part of a zigbee network or is that a fools errand

sour shadow
#

No, it's not

heady phoenix
#

d'oh 🙂

sour shadow
#

The problem is that a mesh can have one coordinator, and those devices will be coordinators

trail aspen
#

How can I determine the actual range the hardware supports

#

How should I credit you

spark star
#

I have a pair of Tuya devices which aren't fully supported and I wish to try to get them working with custom quirks. I can get the custom quirks to show up in the logs but I cannot seem to change the behaviour of the devices to change. Is there a way to know for sure that my custom code is being executed for the devices in question? Do the quirk files have to be the same or have to be a different name? Can I change the models of an existing quirk so that a different quirk in the same file is used? EG. I have a Tuya Air Quality sensor, model _TZE200_dwcarsat, which is using "Quirk: zhaquirks.tuya.air.ts0601_air_quality.TuyaCO2SensorGPP" I wish to use a custom quirk I am calling TuyaCO2SensorGPP_2 by commenting out the model in TuyaCO2SensorGPP and adding the model in TuyaCO2SensorGPP_2. However the quirk being reported isn't changing, even after a restart. The logs say the custom quirk is being considered to replace the original.

burnt reef
#

hi i tried zha instead of z2m (just migrated the coordinator_backup.json, and relearned the devices that would not appear). Now i saw that in the network view are no lines and in the device overview is no lqi listed... did i something wrong or is the normal?

dense tundra
molten linden
burnt reef
#

Okay than i will wait over night. Do the other entities apear as well after some time, (lock functions from heating valves and so on)?

muted shard
#

howdy. i recently switched 45 lights and a bunch of dimmer switches from the Hue Hub to a Sonoff Zigbee dongle. things are mostly working fine, but i can only "dim up" to turn lights on, rather than being able to press the button on our Lutron Auroras to return the lights to either their last known state, or full brightness

#

i'm somewhat unsure of wher to go from here-- this even affects the toggle switches in HA dashboards-- if the light is "dimmed up" using the slider it will turn on, and the toggle switch will turn it off

#

but when toggling back on, it's at 1% brightness

#

so it does "turn on" but not visibly because it's so dim

#

so i either have to turn the dial on the aurora to get the lights on, or click on the entity and slide the slider to 100% to get them to turn on

molten linden
#

Not likely. As far as I know I’m not super familiar with the heating valves. You can check the zha quirks repo for open issues or submit new ones if you think something is missing. Guessing tuya and know there are a number of variants with multiple random alpha numeric manufacturer names

molten linden
muted shard
#

so in the automation try binding the devices themselves instead of the group?

#

because i've done that and it exhibits the same behavior. how do i know if it's sonoff-E?

molten linden
#

if you go to configure zha

muted shard
#

it seems like the issue is that as it turns off, it's setting the "last brightness" to just before completely off

molten linden
#

you'll see ezsp

muted shard
#

so when it comes back on, it's reverting to that

molten linden
#

as the radio type

muted shard
#

but it should be storing that at the start of the toggle, not the end

molten linden
#

I bind them directly to bulbs and they come on full brightness when I toggle them back on, even if dimmed low before

muted shard
#

nothing says E in the config page

molten linden
#

radio type ezsp?

muted shard
#

znp

#

is what it says

molten linden
#

oh

#

okay pretty sure that can see all the group traffic then

muted shard
molten linden
#

so you should just look at events coming in and see what shows.

muted shard
#

where do i look for that?

molten linden
#

dev tools

#

events

#

listen for zha_event

#

toggle button/dim

#

look for events

#

then you can use the event data for automations since the auroa doesn't have built in device automations yet. (there also are likely some blueprints available)

muted shard
#

i would paste pics but can't

#

the dimmers seem to be generating the correct data

#

when i toggle the light in the web interface, no zha_events show up

#

they appear to be formatted correctly when i press the button or turn the dial though

molten linden
#

only the button will give events.

#

you won't see events for the light. as it has states

rapid dawnBOT
#

@muted shard I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
muted shard
#

i pressed the button to power the lights on from off. it seems to correctly pass the light level as max (255), and the group is now listed as "on" in the interface, but the brightness in the group state is 1

#

yeah, no matter what it seems to be setting the power-on brightness to 1 when any light or group turns off

#

is there a way i can globally force full brightness when toggling from off to on?

sour shadow
muted shard
#

FLIPPING HELL

#

🤦

#

id,x,y,brightness,transition
group.all_lights.default,,,1

#

gee i wonder why all the lights were coming back on to brightness level 1

#

i was messing around with this earlier in the week to force transitions, but forgot a comma and was setting the default brightness to 1 for all lights

#

thanks @sour shadow for the nudge

digital thunder
#

If I add additional zigbee hub devices, will my mesh auto reconfigure (with zha)? Or do I have to be careful how I add things? (Like adding specific things to specific hubs/repeaters.)

sour shadow
#

Hub devices ... no

#

There's only one coordinator on a mesh

digital thunder
#

Sorry yeah my terminology is incorrect

#

I mean repeaters

sour shadow
#

Routers

digital thunder
#

yes!

#

Thank you

sour shadow
#

The Zigbee term is router 😉

#

And the answer is that it's up to the devices

digital thunder
#

Awesome, yes those!

sour shadow
#

Most Zigbee 3.0 stuff will change routes as they feel appropriate

#

Most Xiaomi Zigbee 1.2 end devices won't change routes

#

Everything else... shrug

digital thunder
#

And for those who don't? Do I just have to remove and re-add it to the correct router?

#

Can you force the entire mesh to be rebuilt (in zha?)

sour shadow
#

No

digital thunder
#

Sigh, ok then, guess I've got a few minutes of work to do haha

sour shadow
#

it's up to the devices

digital thunder
#

Oh yeah

#

So it doesn't matter how I add the ones that switch

sour shadow
#

If you want to force something to (at least initially) use a router, you have to (re)pair it to that router

digital thunder
#

Ok, final question: Is there a way to remove a device, then re-add it and have the automations that used that device be unaffected?

sour shadow
#

IMO you're best off pairing all the router devices first, and then pair the end devices to a "nearby" router

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You can just re-pair it without removing it

digital thunder
digital thunder
sour shadow
digital thunder
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Oh you don't like to be pinged? Sorry!

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Well thanks for the info, I've got a bit of work to do!

spark star
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When using a custom zha quirk, will the quirk listed under Zigbee Device Info change? In my case from "Quirk: zhaquirks.tuya.air.ts0601_air_quality.TuyaCO2SensorGPP" to something like "Quirk: config.zhaquirks.ts0601_air_quality.TuyaCO2SensorGPP_2"?

half cradle
molten linden
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Nice

jagged ivy
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If I install a new router device, will my end devices eventually auto re-learn the routes if it get a stronger signal from the new router?

grim igloo
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not a blanket yes, depends on the devices

jagged ivy
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It's an Innr smart plug that I've installed. Then I have Aqara door & window sensors that are the end device

grim igloo
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the new zigbee 3.0 ones or the older 1.2 ones

raven jewel
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Aqara devices will likely need prompting to find the new route. Unless they're the latest ones

jagged ivy
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I am unsure.

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For finding the new route do I just have to re-configure the end device? or Is there a specific way to do it?

grim igloo
jagged ivy
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From googling around, it appears the Aqara are Original version

grim igloo
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then no

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expecting them to get new routes is gonna leave you disappointed

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they technically can, they rarely do

jagged ivy
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lol that's fine. Just looks like I basically need to re-pair?

grim igloo
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you just re-pair

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i think that means deleting then re-adding? i'm still not 100% on that

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everyone just says re-pair

jagged ivy
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Okay so in case anyone is curious. I put my zigbee dashboard in pairing mode. Then just held the button down on the sensor. It pretty quickly reset (removed from dashboard), but I had to do the button hold a few times before it worked properly.

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The map doesn't seem to be showing it as using the new route (or any route yet), but the LQI is significantly higher than before so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

grim igloo
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I believe the map isn’t instant

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Zha right?

jagged ivy
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