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earnest mango
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That is uses a certain protocol doesn't mean that it works out of the box

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The software needs to know what the device is exactly before it can control it

molten linden
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conbee needs to be on usb extension cable for sure not directly plugged into pi - see pins.

sweet saddle
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hmmm okay thats a bummer.

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okay and extention cable is needed for stronger connection

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didnt know that

molten linden
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RF interference

sweet saddle
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Okay thanks i see, it's recommended

molten linden
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conbee is more sensitive than most of the other radios.. here is a demo of impact of RF with skyconnect, same principles... https://youtu.be/tHqZhNcFEvA

sweet saddle
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Will make sure to buy an extension cable thanks.

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cant find any ynoa device on the deconz compatible list unfortunately

sour shadow
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Switch to using ZHA instead of deCONZ

chrome valve
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I migrated in ZHA my deConz Conbee radio to EZSP using a Sonoff Dongle-E 3.0. Worked straight forward without issues. But when i try to use internal HA Yellow Silicon Chip the Zigbee devices get unresponsive. I saw that this migration changes the Zigbee Channel but not when i use the Sonoff Stick. What i am doing wrong when i try to use the internal Yellow radio? Why does the radio not use the channel which Conbee has used? I guess the changed Zigbee channel makes the devies unresponsive?

sweet saddle
austere patio
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Not really, debug logging doesn't change how anything behaves (unless you have an extremely slow system and it slows things down further)

austere patio
sour shadow
chrome valve
mighty river
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Hi all, I've just setted up a raspberry with HA and a Zigbee sonoff dongle-e. I've launched a search request to find my devices but it seems the search never stops. If I plug a new bulb after some time (5 minutes it will stright be taken in) how to stop the search ? or is it possible to stop the automatic enrolment of all devices discovered?

austere patio
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So just to confirm: you had an existing Conbee network with ZHA, then migrated successfully to a Sonoff -E dongle. But migrating from the -E dongle to the Yellow's radio (not multi-PAN!) changed the network settings? If so, can you ZIP up and message me your /config/zigbee.db file?

sweet saddle
chrome valve
sweet saddle
austere patio
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ZHA needs the Conbee. What you can do is remove deCONZ, unplug the Conbee, restart HA, and then plug the Conbee in. ZHA will auto-discover the Conbee in the "Devices" page and show up as a button you can click.

sweet saddle
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okay many thanks

austere patio
mighty river
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is it possible to stop the automatic enrolment when a device is discoverd?

old kernel
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message last night in response to someone talking about getting a zbdongle-e/efr32 chip was:
"https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_adapters.html this is the list most of us use"
Does the official ZHA list need to be updated? Is there a reason why "most" people would not be using the official integration?

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it seems strange we would be recommending that people look at a list that says the official Nabu Casa HA SkyConnect stick is 'experimental' and "don't use these if you want a stable setup"

heady kayak
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for a small amount of clarity: ZHA needs a zigbee dongle of some sort. the conbee2 is a dongle which supports ZHA. There are other dongles which are supported. (probably everyone got that, but in case they didn't 🙂 )

clear root
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Can anyone recommend US Zigbee smart plugs that measure energy consumption, and most importantly, default to the “on” state after a power loss/or allow the start up behavior to be configured? I have one Innr 15A plug (https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Innr_SP_234.html ) that does exactly that, but I can no longer find it for sale. All of the plugs I see on Amazon default to the “off” state after power cycling. I want to measure my fridge and networking equipment power consumption, so that is not an option.

rapid dawnBOT
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@heady kayak Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

sour shadow
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You always need a "dongle" since it's the radio device that talks actual Zigbee

astral seal
clear root
astral seal
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In that case Third Reality should be a good choice. They have plugs rated up to 15A that support energy monitoring and they're a Works with Home Assistant partner.

molten linden
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Sengled or Third Reality

grim igloo
austere patio
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As do the slightly more expensive ThirdReality plugs. The older ones without power monitoring can as well, with a firmware update (unless ThirdReality flash them from the factory).

silk vortex
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I have a super flakey _TZ3000_w0qqde0g TS011F smart socket, it connects fine, but immediatly becomes Unavailable and is uncrontollable. Reconfiguration always fails;

Reconfiguring device: _TZ3000_w0qqde0g TS011F
The device reconfiguration failed. Additional information may be available in the logs.

 binding  reporting

Diagnostic info: https://gist.github.com/Bluscream/bde1a4ae47f4088ec21ac6b592b1cac1
Amazon link: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Smart-Power-Plugs-Notification-Compatible/dp/B0BDMCJD7N

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Is there anything i can do besides throwing it in the trash?

versed palm
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Does anyone use Hive locally with ZHA or Z2M and have TRV’s? Looking for some help with them.

clear root
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@astral seal @molten linden @austere patio Thank you for your responses, but I am not asking the same question as the person last night. I am specifically asking about Zigbee smart plugs that when power-cycled return to their previos state, or default to 'on'. It's a bit of a more nuanced question than 'recommend me a Zigbee smart outlet'. According to multiple Amazon reviews of the ThirdReality plug, they default to off after a power cycle (which will not work for a refridgerator). The Sengled Amazon reviews are a mixed bag, some say that they return to their previous state after losing power, some say they default to off. If I could deep link to the specific Amazon reviews I would. To review, the Innr plugs were perfect for my needs, but no longer available to purchase. Zigbee, reliable, measured power usage, and most importantly, return to their previous state after a power cycle. So, do any of us know if the Sengled Zigbee smart plugs return to their previous state when power cycled? I know lots of noobs ask questions that have been answered many times before, but I'm asking about something more specific here. Thanks!

austere patio
grim igloo
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Hey at least he thanked your response

austere patio
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The ThirdReality plug explicitly supports the "startup on/off" attribute, which lets you set it to "off/on/last-state". The non-power monitoring one needs an OTA update because their initial implementation had a bug (you set the attribute but it doesn't actually do anything), the one with power monitoring works out of the box.

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Other (non-Tuya) Zigbee 3.0 ones should work the same

clear root
molten linden
half cradle
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Unless you need 15a, etc

molten linden
molten linden
lean oar
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Anyone else have zigbee defaulting to debug mode after every reboot on 2023.6?

scarlet vigil
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Morning - a few years ago I got a bunch of Xiaomi motion sensors and they have been amazing. Cheap, seemingly endless battery life and generally awesome. I need to buy a few other sensors. Is Xiaomi still a good way to go? I'll be connecting direct to my Home Assistant PC with a ZigBee stick so no need for the hub.

sour shadow
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I also like the Linkind sensors, as well as the new P1 Aqara sensors

astral seal
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The Aqara P1 has been really solid. I used it to replace the junk motion sensor that came built into my porch light and I have absolutely no complaints.

scarlet vigil
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Those Aqara ones are the Xiaomi ones right?

sour shadow
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Yes

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Aqara and Mijia are two of Xiaomi's ranges - both of which include Zigbee devices

scarlet vigil
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Ahh okay

heady kayak
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the P1s also have a light sensor in them 🙂 (though how useful it is really depends on where they're installed. natural light is really noticable, artificial can be reasonably low on it.)

sour shadow
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The quality of that sensor is ... shite

heady kayak
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Can't disagree with that

sour shadow
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The P1 also reports ~5 lux when in complete darkness facepalm

heady kayak
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Does the P1 still have a (bad) temperature sensor, or was that the older model?

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(can't remember which model I currently have installed)

sour shadow
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Well, it's the temperature of the device, so it's not bad, it's just not what some people thought it was

heady kayak
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6 degrees above ambient seems a little high for a battery powered device 😉

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but eh, I have other sensors in more sensible places for temperature

sour shadow
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The Aqara temperature/humidity sensors are generally fine

sweet saddle
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Hi I bought the Ynoa smart hub so I can connect my Ynoa products to ZHA. But it wont find it when I search for new devices.

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Its not on the deconz devices list

sour shadow
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If you're using ZHA then the deCONZ list is irrelevant

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If you're using their hub then both ZHA and deCONZ are irrelevant

sweet saddle
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Yes indeed. But tried firstly without hub and device didnt show up in ZHA search. So I bought the hub. Is there maybe another way to integrate in Home assistant? Hub also supports wifi

sour shadow
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Do you already have a hub that works on the basis of the Zigbee 3.0 protocol? Then the Ynoa lamps can also be controlled via your existing hub.

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If the bulbs are in range of your mesh they should pair fine

sweet saddle
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But I wanted control of the bulbs in home assistant

sour shadow
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Right... and were the bulbs in range of your mesh when you tried to pair them?

sweet saddle
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Yes, I also used a usb cable extender for my conbee 2

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Do you think it should work? I will try again then after restarts

sour shadow
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It should, they claim to be Zigbee 3.0. The only possible issue is that they may support only the ZLL channels (11,15,20,25)

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I don't think that's the case though, as the Zigbee2MQTT docs would warn about that

snow tinsel
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I recently added a Zigbee smart plug, which I was hoping would help extend the range for a couple of door sensors. Looking at the ZHA visualisation in Home Assistant three of the Aqara no-neutral light switches I have seem to be routing via the smart plug, despite the fact they are physically closer to my HA Yellow and one other has become unavailable to the Yellow entirely. Is there a way to restrict which devices may route via the smart plug?

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Unable to find referenced entities light.lumi_lumi_switch_l1aeu1_light or it is/they are currently not available

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I tried the repair function for the device that is not available and it seems to discover and do some binding OK but that last attempt showed a yellow cross icon against 'OppleSwitchCluster'.

sour shadow
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Aqara's non Zigbee 3.0 ranges usually pair to the first device they hear - you should always pair those explicitly through a nearby router

snow tinsel
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Thank you. The switches were all originally paired with an Aqara M2 hub but after I setup my HA Yellow, I paired them directly with that instead. They seem to have worked flawlessly until I added this Kaiye/Tuya Zigbee smart plug. I would have opted for Aqara smart plugs but they don't offer UK version yet. I guess first step is to remove the smart plug and see if my Yellow is then able to communicate with the Aqara light switch again.

sour shadow
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Innr do some really nice UK Zigbee plugs

snow tinsel
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It's just a shame the Innr ones don't do power monitoring and are a little more expensive than other options.

sour shadow
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Salus SP600 do power monitoring, but they're not Zigbee 3.0

sweet saddle
sweet saddle
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After deinstall deconz I restarded HA. Should I do something more?

sour shadow
sweet saddle
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There does not seem to be a pairing mode for de bulps. But the smart plug does have a pairing mode but it does not work either

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I thought maybe just turning them on and of could work

sour shadow
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There is a pairing mode, there's always a pairing mode

charred quartz
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@sweet saddle zigbee bulbs - in lack of buttons - are often put in pairing mode by other means. No standard. Many have a scheme where you unplug it for some seconds and then turn it on and off for a 5 or 6 times.

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Most annoying are Philips Hue. If they have been paired on a hub you need to unpair from that hub. And if the hub is gone .. the only way I know is to take a 4-button Philips Hue remote control and hold the top and bottom butten pressed simultaneously while holding the remote very close to the powered Hue bulb. When you see it flash it is factory reset and in pairing mode.

heady kayak
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(There's a reason I bought a GU10 adaptor to bayonet. So I could reset my downlighter bulbs without needing to reset them all at once.)

sweet saddle
charred quartz
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Normally they only stay in pairing mode for a few minutes so you need to reset and have ZHA in pairing mode also. A reset bulb will normally go to pairing at power up.

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Normally lights are the most compatible things in Zigbee world and will pair with anything. It is switches/remotes/sensors that are a pain

sweet saddle
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Okay do you (or someone else) ever heard of Ynoa lights that worked with ZHA?

charred quartz
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I never heard about Ynoa .. period! 😉

sweet saddle
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Okay thanks

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Is there a known issue about devices not showing up in ZHA after deinstall deconz addon?

charred quartz
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If you did not remove the devices from Deconz then they will all think they are paired with Deconz and waiting for the mate to be present again.

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That is where the pairing mode/reset becomes needed - for anything

sweet saddle
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Ah ok, the couldnt pair with deconz neither

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I found out pairing mode of the bulbs was not the problem. It works fine when connecting to zigbee hub. Also the smart plug is pairing fine to this hub. But conbee 2 with ZHA will still not find the devices.

sour shadow
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Well, if the devices are paired to the hub of course they'll work with it 😉

sweet saddle
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Note that I resetted devices after pairing with other hub

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Yes but they should also pair with ZHA as you told me

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Used the usb 2 port of my raspberry pi 4

heady kayak
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are you using a cable?

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you're wanting distance from the pi. not just not being plugged into the usb 3 port.

sour shadow
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(See the pinned messages)

sweet saddle
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Yes

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I did

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Is there a way to trouble shoot

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  1. Im sure the devices (bulbs and smart plug) are using zigbee 3.0 and tested this successfully with another hub.
  2. Devices are in pairing mode but not found tru ZHA conbee 2 (usb2 with extension cable)
azure seal
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Morning! I have a Sonoff S40 Lite that I am suddenly having trouble with. It still shows as paired but I can't toggle it from z2m.

In the logs I see the following about every 2 seconds. Any idea what is going on here? TIA

Debug 2023-06-09 10:16:33Received Zigbee message from 'Office Door Lock', type 'attributeReport', cluster 'genOnOff', data '{"onOff":1}' from endpoint 1 with groupID 0

Info 2023-06-09 10:16:33MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Office Door Lock', payload '{"linkquality":216,"state":"ON","update":{"installed_version":4352,"latest_version":4099,"state":"idle"},"update_available":null}

ETA: The Dongle is the Sonoff ZBDongle-E

astral seal
astral seal
earnest plaza
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Follow-up: Upgraded to 2023.6.1 and no longer having the bad z-index issue anymore 😄

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Having an issue with zigbee binding though -- I'm trying to bind an Ikea Tradfri on/off switch to a Sonoff Smart Switch and when I go into the binding UI and try to bind them it just hangs

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I checked the debug logs and i see 2023-06-09 10:27:12.598 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zdo] [0x0536:zdo] processing cluster: 6 Bind_req --> [e0:79:8d:ff:fe:b2:75:e7] which is the correct address for the sonoff device

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but I don't see anything referencing that address afterward for another minute or so, and the UI just spins

austere patio
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Can you send me the debug log? It should be issuing a bind request right after that.

sweet saddle
earnest plaza
earnest plaza
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bringing it back: turns out the ikea on/off switch doesn't support binding, it seems

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on the on/off switch specifically it just sends its commands to group 0x0000 (Default Lightlink Group in ZHA) so if you want the ikea switch to bind to anything (without automations) you need to add it to group 0x0000. I haven't figured out yet how to get the ikea switch into any group other than 0x0000

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ah, I did figure it out, it's group binding of course but not the way I thought -- create the group you want with the things you want to be controlled in it, then go to the page of the individual switch you want to control that group and bind the on/off function to the group

earnest plaza
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I'm hoping to send a fix over the weekend (but this will be my first HA code change so it might take me a bit to get a dev env set up)

grim igloo
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i'm guessing puddly or someone will take it over if they see it here

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looks like you've pointed them in the right direction +1

earnest plaza
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I was working with puddly over dm; if I get majorly wedged I'll hand it over but otherwise I think it'll be kinda fun -- I already have the actual code fix working on my live instance and the existing tests look like I'll be able to shamelessly copy learn from them

grim igloo
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ah cool then sounds like you've got a good plan

earnest plaza
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curious though -- since this is a "bugfix" is it in scope for a point release?

astral seal
hybrid cloud
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hey i have a sznb-04 door and window sensor im using through zha. the device works perfectly fine, but in the last few weeks, after around 8 hours it reports as unavailable. despite that, opening/closing the window its attacdhed to will automatically report and uipdate to a valid state, only for it to report unavailable again after a number of hours. so the device is connected fine but zha thinks that it cant reach it. can i fix or diagnose this issue somehow

cyan ember
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One message removed from a suspended account.

novel cloud
dire crag
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is there a way to extend a zigbee router 1000ft

astral seal
dire crag
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I need zigbee 1000ft away from the home assistant computer with a zigbee coordinator

astral seal
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So the coordinator needs to be 1000ft from the server or you need a Zigbee device to work 1000ft from the coordinator?

dire crag
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I have zigbee devices in the building the coordinator is in

astral seal
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If you have routing devices, like wall plugs or some bulbs, every 20 feet or so from the coordinator it might work but the latency is going to be really bad the further you get from the hub.

dire crag
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and I need them 1000ft away at the top of a hill

astral seal
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I think whatever this is probably not the best use case for Zigbee.

dire crag
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wifi plugs we can not use because the wifi is not dependable

heady kayak
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The other option would be something like zigbee2mqtt, having a coordinator in that building.

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doesn't need to be on the same computer as HA. as long as you can have a network connection between them.

astral seal
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That might work if you can get a reliable network connection to the location. Long as the z2m server at the top of the hill has a reliable network connection, you just have it talking to the same mqtt broker as your HA in the house.

strange shuttle
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Hello anyone managed to get the sonoff zbdongle-e working as a router with zigbee2mqtt?

carmine lotus
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but if not, point me in the right direction.<3
I've got home assistant installed on a pi 3 with conbee attached. Has been working like a charm and I'm really happy with it. Yesterday I installed some new stuff and was messing around with it and noticed that there were a few updates to home assistant. So I started to download and install them. At one point I was supposed to restart HA and so I did. Since then I've not been able to reach HA at all. Either on https://homeassistant.local:8123 or the external link.
I don't know if I accidentally restarted it to soon and the files became corrupt or if I managed to mess something else up.
I don't have a Micro SD card reader at home and I've ordered one just now in the case that I need to reinstall everything, but before I wipe all my hard work away I wanted to come here and see what you guys thought..

finite star
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Hello everyone. I got a problem with ZHA in combination with a sonoff 3.0. The light bulbs (all ikea) react like super slow motion and I was not able to connect a water irrigation device which worked fine before. I didn’t change anything. Is there a known problem or do you have a hint how to debug this?

vapid vigil
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got a weird zigbee2mqtt issue that I was wondering if anyone had seen before (and hopefully knows how to fix)

I ran some firmware updates on some devices, but now some are stuck with a remaining time of N/A. They've been like this for over 24 hours now.
https://i.imgur.com/xAD6WOe.png

I've tried power cycling the bulbs and even rebooted the server. does anyone know how to cancel the firmware update. if not I might try to re-pair them.

sour shadow
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That's a known bug in Z2M - it's really failed but Z2M didn't notice. There's an issue about this somewhere, let me see if I can find it

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My search-fu is weak, but there's certainly an issue out there about it, which includes the fix

vapid vigil
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ok, I must have just missed something in my searching also. back at it

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thanks for the confirmation of the bug though

vapid vigil
sour shadow
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Doesn't look like that includes any fixes

vapid vigil
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the comment seems to indicate that by using the dev console to refresh the swBuildId and dateCode in the genBasic cluster it forces something to update in the front end. (just not for my issue apparently) 🙂

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oh well

sour shadow
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Somebody posted about it in the Z2M Discord - you may have more luck there

vapid vigil
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gotcha thanks again

weak bay
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Are there any EFR32MG24 implementations on the horizon or should I get a ZBDongle-E?

austere patio
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What specifically about the EFR32MG24 interests you over the EFR32MG21?

weak bay
austere patio
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Thread works pretty well with Thread-only firmware for the MG21, in addition to multi-PAN. The only thing I'm aware of the MG24 having over the MG21 is better channel hopping (for Thread and Zigbee at the same time).

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The Matter half of this equation isn't really something that's going to be useful unless you're going to be developing a Matter product using the stick itself, since the stick would act solely as a border router for any HA Matter deployment (and doesn't care about Matter specifically)

weak bay
weak bay
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But I'd really like official firmware support, my day job already is chasing bugs

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I thought all this would be a fun project but it's maddening

austere patio
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Multi-protocol is beta quality. If you want maximum stability, get two sticks and run Zigbee firmware on one and Thread on the other.

weak bay
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How is it if I only run zigbee?

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That way I don't have to repair and set up everything in case I get a thread device

austere patio
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You won't have to in either case, Zigbee backup/restore works across all the common sticks and setups (at least with ZHA)

weak bay
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I saw the opposite I think, a warning that restoring would most likely fail

austere patio
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Well I just migrated from a CC2652 to a EFR32MG21 running Zigbee firmware to an EFR32MG21 running multi-PAN an hour ago so I can say that it works 😄

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And did the migration in reverse a few days ago too

weak bay
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Hmmmmm

austere patio
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The only problem is when migrating directly to multi-PAN: you first need to migrate to normal Zigbee, then to multi-PAN (a button automates this)

weak bay
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Well I can do that before I pair anything

austere patio
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If you don't have an existing network, it doesn't matter

weak bay
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Yep

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Still haven't decided if I'm getting wifi, zigbee, or thread lights

molten linden
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I have a few mgm24's I'm messing with. have been running my prod network on one for the last month or so.

carmine hamlet
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I've only read the comments on the Inovelli board about the MG24 supporting some OTA updates that the MG21 can't handle, but that's on the device side

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So much clambering for when they'll release switches with MG24

weak bay
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I can swap it for a 24 eventually and flash the 21 to a repeater

carmine hamlet
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I haven't dug into what's causing the need for a 'physical connection' to update the MG21s. They can clearly be updated on the Zigbee side OTA

weak bay
carmine hamlet
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That's the one in development. I'm talking about the Blue '2 in 1'

crystal hazel
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I got excited about having a zigbee device once I read up on zigbee. So I went and purchased a linptech zigbee 3-gang "switch" (really just 3 buttons). it is kineticly powered which I thought was cool so no battery needed. However I cannot get HA to recognize the device. At least not that I can tell. The instructions with the device claim that it can be added to the Tuya app using a zigbee gateway. I only have SkyConnect so as far as I know I can't test adding it to Tuya. When I put the device in pairing mode and add a zigbee device HA detects it as EZSP by Silicon Labs. I'm confused because it seems like it is re-adding the device that was also added when installing the ZHA integration. Also, I don't get how to integrate the button clicks into HA. I've tried listening to zha_events like I did with my other zigbee smart button (a battery powered one) but no events show up when I push the button.

austere patio
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The device is likely one of the few "Zigbee Green Power" devices, which aren't currently supported by ZHA

crystal hazel
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is there another way to add it to HA or am I out of luck on this device?

austere patio
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Zigbee2MQTT supports green power devices

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Its support for the SkyConnect is experimental, but it should work at this point

crystal hazel
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ok, thanks for the heads up. I'll go read up on that now 🙂

half cradle
carmine hamlet
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yes, that's what I got from teh forum

half cradle
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I have about 15 2/1 I'm working through,

carmine hamlet
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since the next batch are due in Aug/Sept, there was a recent post about whether those were MG24 or not

half cradle
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I have a bunch of the Aux, and pre-ordered 5 of the fans

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zwave products on amazon has ones for sale, but some have been having issues

carmine hamlet
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because they also said that they have "a ton" of MG21s that they have to use

half cradle
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Any huge negative to a bunch of Mg21s? other then the annoying firmware update?

half cradle
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Any RGB controller recmendations?

astral seal
# half cradle Any RGB controller recmendations?

I've been looking at the Gledopto controllers for a while. They seem to be well supported by ZHA and z2m, but I've seen mixed reviews, and I know some of their older generation controllers had some issues. I have one of their bulbs and it's great, no complaints whatsoever, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

mystic crane
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What is the current best set up recommendation for a conbee II stick?
Just started my HA from scratch after originally setting up in 2018 and 2020/2021.

half cradle
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Given I wanted the controller for some 5050 lights, I figured it was perfect, and cheap enough if it doesn't...

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I "think" it should work

half cradle
mystic crane
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Lol will order a much newer stick but in the mean time... I went with zha. Hopefully I can limp on thrower a few days. Lol

mighty river
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looking at the blakadder site i can see the Aqara Presence Detector FP1 is supported, does anyone know if the FP2 is yet ?

long pilot
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FP2 is WiFi right

inland agate
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does ZHA log OTA updates? where should I look to see if a firmware I placed in the custom otau_directory got installed?

novel cloud
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It would be nice if there was a roadmap for zha somewhere similar to zwavejs integration roadmap.

molten linden
inland agate
molten linden
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Yes, just zigpy. If you have the logger component in yaml already you can just call the service to up the level to debug

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Logger: Set level

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Data is:

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zigpy: debug

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(On Mobile and can never get code formatting right here)

inland agate
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got it, thank you!

bold nymph
bold nymph
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when I pair it for the first time, it learns the code with no issues, but after that when I try to make it learn the code it says
Unexpected IR code position: {"zero":0,"seq":9,"position":0,"msgpart":{"type":"Buffer","data":[11,75,35,124,17,165,2,101,6,165,2,20,2,128,3,64,11,192,3,192,19,64,7,224,11,19,64,23,224,15,3,224,19,47,64,27,64,55,192,7,224,3,11,3,72,78,165,2,224,3,15,64,11,224,27]},"msgpartcrc":232}, expecting: 55.

dire owl
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Hi my ikea plugs go offline from time to time about once every 1 to 2 months, and bring down devices that are using it as a router. How can I prevent this? ZHA/skyconnenct

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Unplugging and plugging brings the device back

weak bay
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@carmine hamlet thought you might know, would the dongle e flashed to multiprotocol work with HA in docker?

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cause apparently only HAOS supports matter or thread?

carmine hamlet
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please don't randomly ping folks

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how you run HA doesn't matter

weak bay
carmine hamlet
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no worries. point is, anyone can answer

weak bay
carmine hamlet
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the dongle itself should work fine as a Zigbee coordinator. looks like you have your answer regarding thread

weak bay
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https://www.home-assistant.io/skyconnect

Concurrent Zigbee and Thread on a single chip:
....

We will make this multi-protocol set-up first available for Home Assistant OS installations. We will be looking into making this available for Home Assistant Supervised and Home Assistant Container installations afterwards.

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still reading, apparently there's unofficial tools?

weak bay
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strange that it worked well for you and it didn't for them

austere patio
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There was a bug a month ago with restore for some radio types so it's possible the author ran into that

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But this is now fixed and I'm not aware of any issues

weak bay
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ooooh thanks for telling me, I didn't know that

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by chance, do you know anything about docker support?

austere patio
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For multiprotocol?

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Yeah, the setup is complex. We maintain the addons but dockerizing them for non-OS use is driven by the community

weak bay
austere patio
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No, you should be able to run the RCP firmware and OpenThread easily without an addon

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Only multi-PAN is really complex

potent dock
#

I have one question about MQTT but I suppose on this channel many people are familiar with it. I have one integration that acts as a bridge betweeen a protocol named ebus and MQTT, and MQTT is supposed to autodiscover entities. And it did autodiscover a few, but I'm successfully receiving messages with the right topic (e.g. ebusd/kwl/FanSpeed and yet that sensor is not appearing in the device

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what could be causing this? I did have it working at some point, but then I stopped using the device for a while, and not it's not working. I tried removing the device and letting mqtt rediscover things again but so far nothing

ember pine
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Has someone else noticed Z2M suddenly not being able to communicate with the Sonoff USB dongle anymore after the recent 2023.06 Home Assistant update? For me the communication failed for about 4 times in less than a day already, where before it's been about once every 2 weeks or so.

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Tho at the same time Z2M had an update before 2023.06 hit, so I'm not sure if it might be that...

molten linden
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Home Assistant updates have no bearing on zigbee2mqtt they are separate

naive summit
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Having my own issues with Z2M Sys timeouts, but it's after a server reboot

molten linden
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The decoupling is what a lot of people like about it 🤷🏼‍♂️

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Make sure nothing else is using the port. @naive summit

naive summit
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Well, lsof isn't returning anything, so I don't think anything is touching it

sullen dirge
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Hi all,

I want to migrate from the builtin Zigbee in HA to a individual Zigbee2Mqtt container on another device. I will be using the Zigbee Stick (Sonoff). Is there any good advice on how to migrate? Or will i need to re-pair all my devices?

vestal dew
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Hi all

junior viper
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Not sure how to explain this, but I’ll give it a shot. When reinstalling HA (which I do sometimes) I’m adding my MQTT Broker (Z2M), and all devices appear. I then need to change almost every entity correctly to match my automations, i.e ”sensor.sensor_driveway_illuminance_lux” to ”sensor.driveway_illuminance”. How and where do I change it to get it permanent? In Z2M I can see the friendly name, but that’s just the name of the device

tulip patrol
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Hello, I've just updated my silabs multiprotocol add-on (and radio firmware) and I saw this message in the system log:

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Logger: bellows.ezsp Source: components/zha/core/gateway.py:205 First occurred: 7:03:00 PM (1 occurrences) Last logged: 7:03:00 PM Protocol version 12 is not supported, using version 11 instead

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but devices are responding

molten linden
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new sdk from SiLabs just dropped a few days ago. the libs haven't caught up to some of the underlying changes yet. you'll see that until EZSP version 12 support is added to Bellows.

spring belfry
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hello, good afternoon. I wanted to know if someone could help me. I want to put 2 coordinators, a sonoff dongle and a zigstar lan, in zigbee2mqtt to have 2 different zigbee networks and what I do is download 2 zigbee2mqtt integrations and I change the (name), (pad id), (port) (channel ) and (the name in mqtt). I install them and if I only start one of them they work fine, but when I start the 2 at the same time, the one I have with the sonoff dongle deletes the entities in Home assistant as if they were not there. Can you help me to see what can happen to me or pass me the configuration of the integrations to compare them? thank you.

sour shadow
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When you say integrations, do you mean the add-ons?

bold nymph
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I'm trying to set up UFO-R11 IR remote, I'm reading the docs, but I'm having some troubles
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/UFO-R11.html

it says to type

{
    "ir_code_to_send": "<previously learned IR code>"
}
``` in the payload, but when I type it
```{
    "ir_code_to_send": "<CzkjfxGcAm8GnAIfAuABA0APwAPgAxdAC0AXQAfgFwPgEyfAG8AHQEvACwNJTpwCQAvAA0Ab4BsDQC/gGyfgCyPAO8AHAc+c4XEXQINAA8CnwAtBF8AT4D8HwFvAB+ATVwNvBpwC>"
}```
it's not working, can someone help?
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I am sure that the ir code is working, but for some reason the publish service isn't, did the syntax change in an update?

spring belfry
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@sour shadow yes, plugin It downloaded me first a zigbee2mqtt and then I copied the address of the repository and added a / at the end of the repository and it let me download a nother one. and I get in plugins the 2 zigbee2mqtt.

sour shadow
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There's no plugin

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Use the right term so that people know what you're talking about

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The correct approach when using add-ons is to use both the normal and the edge versions

spring belfry
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I have the add-ons zigbbe2mqtt Normal. Do you know the solution to my zigbee2mqtt problem? Thank you.

sour shadow
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Use Edge and the normal one

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Or don't use add-ons, and have a single mesh

astral seal
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Why do you need 2 Zigbee networks? Unless your garage is extremely far from your house, ensuring you have a strong mesh with a good distribution of routing devices between there and your coordinator should be sufficient.

umbral silo
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Hi, I've got a possibly silly question. I'm running home assistant in a container on my synology box. What's the best way to add zigbee support? Now for the stupid part: can my philips hue be my zigbee hub for anything else?

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I was using tuya plugs, but the fix I had do ne years ago isn't working anymore. Looking g to not need a cloud anymore

ashen bluff
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Either use a PoE coordinator or give the container the USB device. Synology boxes need manual installation of the serial drivers afaik

heady kayak
bold nymph
heady kayak
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(That I can't help with. I don't use z2m :/. The other bit is just a common way to format docs.)

bold nymph
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what do you mean by format docs?

heady kayak
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the <something here> bit

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being 'replace the entire <something here>'

bold nymph
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oh no, I figured everything and I'm already controlling the IR devices

heady kayak
# 
        data:
          topic: zigbee2mqtt/whatyourthingiscalled/set
          payload: '{"ir_code_to_send": "CzkjfxGcAm8GnAIfAuABA0APwAPgAxdAC0AXQAfgFwPgEyfAG8AHQEvACwNJTpwCQAvAA0Ab4BsDQC/gGyfgCyPAO8AHAc+c4XEXQINAA8CnwAtBF8AT4D8HwFvAB+ATVwNvBpwC"}'```
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I assume you're doing something like that 🙂

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in your automation

spring belfry
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@astral seal my garage is far away and i have a local network. I see that people have done it but it doesn't work for me due to configuration.

bold nymph
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when I press run script it works fine, but when I press run automation, it does nothing

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and this is the script

    data:
      topic: zigbee2mqtt/ir-remote_living-room/set
      payload: >-
        {"ir_code_to_send":
        "B7YRthEzApIG4AED4AsB4BsfwAHgAytAC8ABQAtAA+AHAUATB4y3thG2ETMCQAvAA+ALAcAbQAfgCwHgAxdAC+ADA8ABwBPgBwFAF+B8hwIGMwI="}```
heady kayak
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if that's all the script does, why put it in a script rather than just an automation?

bold nymph
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so when I want to add it to multiple automations, I'll just add the script, instead of doing the mqtt.publish everytime

heady kayak
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Now that makes sense 🙂

bold nymph
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if I want for example to control my tv, and press a sieries of buttons, whats better:
set them up in one script then use that script in an automation?
or set it all up in an automation but using the basic scripts like up, left, left?

umbral silo
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If not, is sky connect the recommended zigbee device?

half cradle
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And your hue bridge? Only good for making it easy to remove hue bulbs

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I haven't sold mine, it's unplugged

umbral silo
umbral silo
heady kayak
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no. That's an alternate option.

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(it's a somewhat more involved other option. as it requires POE)

umbral silo
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I see, I don't have poe currently

molten linden
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there's non-poe ethernet as another option from me

umbral silo
molten linden
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ethernet powered by usb (5v)

umbral silo
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Sounds like grabbing skyconnect is the simplest option?

heady kayak
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I'd say so.

molten linden
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depends on how easy it is to get usb passthrough working

umbral silo
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And for the drivers needed for synology, able to point me in the direction?

heady kayak
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The 'simple' route, these days, is:
skyconnect, conbee or sonoff usb stick
zha.

The more complex route are:
conbee stick and deconz
zigbee 2 mqtt, and an appropriate stick.

umbral silo
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I'd like to start with simple and work my way up 😂

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Thank you all for giving me a head start. 🙏

heady kayak
umbral silo
heady kayak
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I've got a skyconnect, but I only got it recently (mostly for thread. which I'm not using yet.) most of my stuff is connected using deconz.

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deconz works, but it can be a bit of a pain for some stuff

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I've heard people having opinions between the sonoff and the skyconnect, but I don't have any

umbral silo
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I'd take that as an endorsement for third reality?

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@heady kayak you've been really informative and helpful. Thanks.

heady kayak
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~pickyourstick

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bah. not that 😄

umbral silo
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Hah

rapid dawnBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

heady kayak
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(pins are always worth a look)

umbral silo
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I forget about pins when I'm on mobile 🤦‍♂️

half cradle
# molten linden ethernet powered by usb (5v)

@analog perch Hey, I got two Olimen ESP32 POE, haven't gotten around to being smart with 3d printing yet. Currently those two items I plan on being BLE proxies. Would you sell a "case" ?

molten linden
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dm me... tied up for a bit in the yard.

half cradle
fallen gyro
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Hello! I have Z2M and have 4 Ikea devices. 1 Blinds, 1 Blinds remote, 2 x TRÅDFRI dimmer (the two button). HA tells me that there is a firmware update for all of them.

I started updating the firmware for the remotes and no matter how much I try, it won't update. I replaced the battery. I removed and re-added it to Z2M. I kept pressing the buttons every 2 seconds interval and it keeps saying that the device timeout and did not respond to the firmware update. Any ideas how I can update the firmware?

violet wave
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it might take hours for the firmware to update, did you wait long enough ?

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well that's the case for ZHA at least

rapid dawnBOT
#

@chrome urchin I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
chrome urchin
rapid dawnBOT
#

@spark hare Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

sour shadow
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Instead of flooding the channel, please use a code share site

rapid dawnBOT
#

@spark hare I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
sour shadow
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No... like the bot message explained...

rapid dawnBOT
#

@spark hare I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
sour shadow
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Post the wall to a code share site, share the link here

spark hare
#

Hello, I did a fresh install of HA after running it for more than 2 years, I was having lot of issues and my internet connection was unstable. When I added the ZHA integration, it automatically recognized my sockets and lights, but I started having errors which I did not have in the past. I will add them here, if you could please let me know why they are occuring and how to get rid of them please...

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BTW, I´m ussing ZHA, with conbee2, running it in RPi4 with HA Operating System in a SSD hard drive. I hope the errors are visible in the link I shared above. Thank you

mellow geode
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What HA version are you running?

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Are you using any custom ZHA quirks?

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Also, do you know what energy monitoring plug on your network is causing that first error?

austere patio
#

It looks like a _TZ3000_typdpbpg (zhaquirks.tuya.ts011f_plug.Plug in main quirks repo?)

mellow geode
spark hare
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the Tuya one... mmm.. I have 3 Swtich Zigbee devices which were detected automatically they are not even named that´s why it says TZ3000..... I will repair them all and name them... with my light bulbs it happened the same, they are detected and added to HA automatically but I need to rename them

mellow geode
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One thing before you re-pair them, can you download the device diagnostic information for each of them and send (or PM) them?
(You can download that information by going to the "device page", then clicking the three dots, then something like "download device diagnostic information".)

spark hare
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I see that I actually have 5 swtiches named the same not 3 as I mentioned... I will send the diagnostic of them all thanks

supple moat
#

Hi all
I got my sonoff stick, and I think that this weekend I will start disabling my multiple Zigbee hubs and moving everything to HA (I think everything is currently conected to either a Hue hub or a Lutron hub)
It looks like it should be relatively straightforward to do this

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but I wanted to ask

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does anyone want to tell me not to do this (i.e. keep switches under Lutron and bulbs/switches under Hue)?
like is there some glaring obvious reason agains tthis that Im missing

half cradle
#

I would remove Hue, Reason is the bulbs are zigbee and can becoming repeaters, helping extend your mesh network

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Lutron is its own hub, would leave it

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your zigbee network should be stronger without hue bridge

supple moat
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Why leave Lutron?

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It is also a Zigbee hub, just like Hue Hub

half cradle
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lutron is not zigbee

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well, let me rephrase, lutron caseta?

supple moat
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Yes, my Lutron is Zigbee

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Yeah, I believe its Caseta

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its just two fan switches and two light switches

half cradle
#

Lutron is almost always not zigbee

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casetta is its own thing

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I have Lutron, and I had hue

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There are very few lutron/zigbee switches,

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no caseta.

supple moat
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Caseta is not Zigbee?

half cradle
supple moat
#

well shit

half cradle
#

its their own RF thing

supple moat
#

ah, well thanks then

half cradle
supple moat
#

I will keep the Lutron hub unless someone knows a good USB stick that does Lutron Caseta lol

half cradle
supple moat
#

Im just trying to minimize/declutter

half cradle
#

we actually had caseta set to a pico remote when we bought the house

supple moat
#

having 3 or 4 hubs doesnt make sense lol

half cradle
#

I completely agree

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The Lutron controls just a few devices where it made sense, some pico remotes (cool use case)

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given how well it just works, i'm ok with it not being zigbee

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lutron zigbee shit is expensive and rare, like they made a zigbee pico remote

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its like 60+ dollars used, it was under 20 almost 10 years ago

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lol

half cradle
supple moat
#

Ooo that’s nice

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I think I’ll just ditch the Hue but keep it as a backup just in case

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The only thing I’m nervous about it the dimmer switches. I think those are Lutron but I forget the branding

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They’re the ones that work with Hue

half cradle
#

if they work with hue, specifically, maybe they are zigbee, let know your model

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I keep my hue as a backup, unplugged

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@supple moat also, I see online some places mention the "pro" lutron hub, that doesn't seem needed at all anymore

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I can control everything just fine with HA. Fully customize the pico remotes

supple moat
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Yeah I got mine as a bundle with the switches. I assumed it was Zigbee but I guess I was wrong

half cradle
#

Yea, I had same thing, funny because I literally had a casetta wireless, directly to a pico remote and no hub for 7 years. I never even knew it wasnt a real switch

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The range isn't great. So the caseta just controls a few downstairs lights, mainly our kitchen and dining room

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I already had it, it works perfectly.

supple moat
#

Yeah the setup I have now works great, it’s really more of a “this seems like a fun way to spend a weekend” thing than a “I need to do this” thing

half cradle
#

100% get rid of the hue

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especially if you wont miss the hue app

#

your zigbee network will be so much stronger.

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and its easy. once you remove from hue bridge

supple moat
#

I hate the Hue app, I do everything through my HA dashboard

half cradle
#

they go into pairing mode

supple moat
#

That’s awesome haha !!

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I was thinking I’d have to sit down Friday night and manually remove all my light bulbs lol

half cradle
#

no, you remove from hue

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and thats it

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they go into pairing mode

supple moat
#

Ohhh gotcha

half cradle
#

so remove from app, add to from HA right after

supple moat
#

I’m waiting til Friday because my kid will be at his moms this weekend lol. I figure that potentially breaking all my lights isn’t a great activity for when I have a toddler in the house

half cradle
#

LOL

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I had my five year old help

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told to yell at me when a light did something funny

half cradle
#

This is why I justify keeping Lutron

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being able to fully customize that, 10 year battery life,

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through HA can make them do anything, I guess their zigbee version kinda exists. But yea, if you cant tell i struggled with having the extra hub too, 🙂

supple moat
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I think the only thing I might lose is candle mode for my bedside reading lamp, but I can live with that

half cradle
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dunno what that is, but who knows

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could always replace lutron switches with inovelli zigbee

supple moat
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Hue lights can emulate candles and the effect looks nice IMO

lyric pewter
#

True

supple moat
#

Ultimately I also want to replace my Ring Alarm hub with my HA setup, but I think thats Z Wave

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Just use the door/window sensors and if theres a break in play dog noises on the upstairs Alexa and a "dialing 911 police are on their way" message on the downstairs one

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I figure if someone is actually breaking in in the middle of the night, it doesnt matter if the cops actually get called or not since their response time is like an hour

half cradle
#

I get free simplisafe monitoring

umbral silo
#

I read a decent amount of dislike over using the hue bridge, what's wrong with it?

half cradle
umbral silo
#

Hmm

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I started with only hue, so I did need it.
Once I get a zigbee device added to ha, I should remove it as you stated above?

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What does it do to "weaken" The zigbee network?

half cradle
#

basically, why have 2 seperate zigbee networks?

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still applies

umbral silo
#

I see your point.
And the hue bridge can only talk to hue devices right?

half cradle
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"NOTE: Devices on one Zigbee network do not repeat for devices on another Zigbee network."

half cradle
#

so basically, one less app, one less hub, stronger zigbee network

supple moat
umbral silo
#

I'm about to try a zigbee plug. Switching from tuya

supple moat
#

But to answer your above question, theres probably not a real reason to get rid of Hue hub other than "making things harder on myself is fun"
I just want to get rid of the extra hub and clean up some cables, plus as someone else said, the bulbs act as a repeater for your network

half cradle
#

yea, i dont feel "hate" towards hue itself is warrented

umbral silo
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Is there a way to use the zigbee plug before I get skyconnect or something similar?

supple moat
umbral silo
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Ie, with my hue bridge

half cradle
#

so i woul just wait

umbral silo
supple moat
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oh gotcha lol

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IDK how I will integrate with Alexa once I remove my Hue hub TBH

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but I want to move away from Alexa in general, I dont find her very useful anymore

umbral silo
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@supple moat could you point me to details on how you did that?

supple moat
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TBH I dont remember and Im away from home so I cant see my HA instance

umbral silo
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I've never tried to add anything other than hue to it, no idea where to start

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I see

supple moat
umbral silo
#

I'm on my 💩 break at work 🤣

supple moat
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I think thats how I did it, I guess I misremembered
I guess I created an entire virtual/fake Hue hub (I was thinking I somehow integrated the virtual hue lights with my real hue hub)

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So Alexa sees a fake Hue Hub with fake lights, but theyre all set up to do something else when Alexa turns them on/off (like turn on my steam deck and change the lighting and TV inputs)

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so I guess I can keep my emulated Hue hub and Alexa can still control the lights (when she feels like it)

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lmao so Im going to get rid of my actual Hue hub that controls lights, to integrate them directly into Home Assistant and create a virtualized hue hub that controls my lights

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when I write it out like that it seems pretty complicated for no reason 🤣

half cradle
supple moat
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perfect, thanks

umbral silo
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I use ha for all of my scenes
I have hue lights and motion sensors, but ha controls it all.

supple moat
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oh @half cradle

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I mentioned them earlier but forgot the branding

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theyre zigbee (I know that these are because they connect direct to Hue hub)

half cradle
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yea

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those are zigbee

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so lutron hub needed

supple moat
#

still bummed the caseta isnt 🤣

umbral silo
half cradle
supple moat
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My HA instance creates a virtual Hue hub thats completely separate from my real Hub
there is no connection between my virtual Hub and my real Hub
And the virtual one connects to Alexa (so does the real one but thats not relevant)

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so Alexa sees that I have "two" hue hubs in my house
One is the real one with my real lights
the other is a fake one that HA runs, and the lights are all fake switches that trigger other routines

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so Alexa sees a lightbulb called STEAMDECK through the "second" Hue hub (thats not real, its emulated), and can turn it on
turning that light on tells HA to turn on my steam deck

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when I say switch, I dont mean a real physical one
its a fake virtual switch, but when its turned on, HA triggers a wake-on-lan routine

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hopefully that makes sense

naive summit
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I'll be damned looks like my issue was with home assistant hogging the serial port

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Which is confusing, because I've never used ZHA....

austere patio
naive summit
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Adapter is zzh, software is running on top of k3s on a Dell R420

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I'm a bit surprised that the homeassistant pod even has access to the serial port.

austere patio
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Did you set up Home Assistant with the stick plugged in?

naive summit
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No

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I also can't even see the stick from the HA pod

naive summit
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Ahhh, new versions of HA auto scan, and it looks like the container is privileged?

hoary socket
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hello good people that knows much more than I do. can you help out an old geezer?

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im trying to add integration ok some ikea tradfri without the dirigera/tradfri hub by using skyconnect.

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I was able to pair the remote with skyconnect, now should I pair each lamp or the tradfri driver brick with skyconnect?

sour shadow
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Presumably you're using ZHA, and you didn't install Zigbee2MQTT?

hoary socket
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you presume right

sour shadow
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You would want to pair all the Zigbee devices with ZHA/the Skyconnect

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That then creates one mesh, which is a good thing

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You really want to pair all the mains powered (Zigbee) router devices first, then the end devices

hoary socket
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ok, that makes sense

sour shadow
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You may also want to pair end devices explicitly through a given router - though it's mostly only Xiaomi devices that need that (they otherwise pick the first thing they hear, even if it has the weakest signal)

hoary socket
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so, do I need to carry my pi closer to the room or just go there and press the paring button?

sour shadow
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No

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That would be ... foolish

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Rule #1 of Zigbee is to always pair in place

heady kayak
sour shadow
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If you move stuff then you ensure you fuck your mesh up

naive summit
heady kayak
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ahhhh 😄 Thanks.

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I was right. I didn't know something

hoary socket
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ok, let me try finding that wee button, back in a bit

hoary socket
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yeah, I was able to re-pair the remote to the lamp, but not to find the brick on HA

sour shadow
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"brick"?

hoary socket
sour shadow
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Is it in range of the mesh?

hoary socket
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the mesh, for now, consists of the raspberry pi in my office with the little skyconnect dongle. (I do have a tplink mesh, but I think it might not be the same network)

sour shadow
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Zigbee meshes are unrelated to WiFi ... anything

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You can expect a range of maybe 6 to 8 meters between Zigbee devices

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That assumes only one or two drywall/plasterboard walls

hoary socket
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ok, that should be within range then

#

so, brick wall might be a no-go

sour shadow
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Brick reduces range

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That also assumes that you've picked a Zigbee channel clear of WiFi (the numbering is different) and that the dongle is on a USB extension cable

heady kayak
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Brick absorbs water. water blocks 2.4GHz (to a degree). zigbee is 2.4GHz

hoary socket
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the dongle is on a usb extension cable, the one that came with skyconnect

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and I might be 4, 5 meters tops from the tradfri thingy

heady kayak
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(so is older wifi)

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do you have any more zigbee bulbs?

hoary socket
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not yet, I did purchase some and they are in transit

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I'll add them around to start creating the mesh

heady kayak
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if they're along the way, then you're good 🙂

hoary socket
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ok. it will be a few days as I did bought Ikea, not next day amazon, so I will return when they arrive

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and use the time to study this a little more

heady kayak
hoary socket
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thanks so much Steve and Tinkerer

heady kayak
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how did you try to reset it?

hoary socket
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so I need to factory reset it to pair it?

heady kayak
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for non-hue stuff, generally a good idea

hoary socket
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and then re-pair it with the lamps?

heady kayak
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?

hoary socket
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I have a little remote as well

heady kayak
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Sorry, I think we're talking at cross purposes

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To get the LED driver paired with home assistant, you'd reset the LED driver (the grey brick), and add it to ZHA

hoary socket
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ok, im gonna go factory reset then and see if zigbee finds the led driver, back in a bit (if wife doesnt kill me first)

heady kayak
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iirc, there's a button to hit to reset the driver. (for most ikea bulbs you'd switch them off then on again like 6 times. the driver is different iirc)

hoary socket
heady kayak
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it worked then?

hoary socket
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it did

#

I might have to re-configure the remote to work with the lamps

heady kayak
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you pair the remote with zha too 🙂

hoary socket
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that one is paired already

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was the first thing I was able to do 😄

heady kayak
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and then you have automations in home assistant which make them do things. They don't need to know about each other directly.

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(other than being in the same mesh. which is automatic when you join them to zha)

hoary socket
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so, the remote will work thru HA instead of directly with the lamp?

heady kayak
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yes.

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downside is you're dependent on HA. But it means you can do far more

carmine hamlet
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you should be able to associate the remote and driver to have them continue to work independently of HA

hoary socket
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ok, so, now to HA automation, I do something in the likes of
Trigger - Turn on pressed
Action - device: Ikea Driver - Action Turn On

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and the same thing for turning off?

heady kayak
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if you've got a remote with on and off. yes

hoary socket
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on/off/dim

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ok, im gonna try that

heady kayak
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(toggle is also an option if you have a single one)

hoary socket
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lets try this

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brb

naive summit
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Disabling the usb integration did it.

hoary socket
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so, I was able to create the integration, and it worked thru HA, but not with the remote. when I reconnected the remote it killed the automation

naive summit
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Heck if I know why that was suddenly a problem

hoary socket
naive summit
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This did force me to finally move everything out of the one namespace, so I guess that's a win?

austere patio
naive summit
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I tried?

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Dunno, regretting using k8s-at-home helm charts

hybrid cloud
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hey i have a sznb-04 door and window sensor im using through zha. the device works perfectly fine, but in the last few weeks, after around 8 hours it reports as unavailable. despite that, opening/closing the window its attacdhed to will automatically report and uipdate to a valid state, only for it to report unavailable again after a number of hours. so the device is connected fine but zha thinks that it cant reach it. can i fix or diagnose this issue somehow

austere patio
hybrid cloud
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i thought i had tried that before and it didnt work but ill try it agian, see what happens

austere patio
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Make sure to keep the sensor awake before/during the reconfigure (open/close the door). Otherwise, most requests to the sensor will fail.

hybrid cloud
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ah ah good point, kk, ill try that and see if it disconnects again in the next 10 hours

austere patio
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You should see the sensor's "Last seen" time show something within the last half an hour if it is set up correctly

hoary socket
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big failure so far

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works one way, or the other, so I'd be dependant on HA

#

but im going to add more devices before trying to continue

supple moat
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I got some of my Hue lights migrated to ZHA! @half cradle

hybrid cloud
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should i get some logs or something

hoary socket
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@heady kayak @sour shadow quick question. if I install zigbee2MQTT would it be easier or skyconnect is enough?

heady kayak
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ZHA (with the sky connect) should be easier.

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But it's a personal preference thing

sour shadow
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With the Skyconnect don't use Zigbee2MQTT

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There are easier ways of frustrating yourself

hoary socket
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Im realizing that without even installing it

heady kayak
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z2m gives you a few options you don't get with zha. But that comes with an additional level of complexity.

#

if you're just wanting "push button, lights come on" or "move in front of motion sensor, lights come on" zha is more than capable.

sour shadow
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Also, it's really best with TI sticks (eg CC2652 based), not others

hoary socket
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OK

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let me sleep on this and try to figure it out when more devices are added to create a stronger mesh

half cradle
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stupid easy, right?

supple moat
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I’m kind of confused how to make light groups, but other than that stupid easy yeah

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I’ll just use helpers for light groups I think

half cradle
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you should be able to bind with zigbee too

sour shadow
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With ZHA, yes - and create groups

supple moat
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The name is just showing as Texas Instrument something or other instead of “TV Lights”

sour shadow
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"They"?

supple moat
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Groups

sour shadow
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I have no idea about ZHA sadly

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Just that it exists and many people are happy

supple moat
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Yeah fair, I just need to group lights into zones that function together

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Like I have a behind TV light strip and an under TV light strip and I want them grouped into the same device

hybrid cloud
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but its still should show the relevant devices as part of the group

half cradle
supple moat
half cradle
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but I havent' yet. so once you figure it out, tell me how to do it easily

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😛

supple moat
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It functions fine I just want human readable devices lol

half cradle
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now, I need to think of something to put in the Hue spot

supple moat
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Oh I just had to manually rename the entity

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Now it’s fine using ZHA groups

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Wow this is stupid easy lmao

hoary socket
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so, not so sure if chatgpt is correct or not, but I tried to explain my situation and it did tell me some stuff I was not aware, I'd appreciate if you could have a look

sour shadow
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ChatGPT tends to be utter shite when it comes to HA - or any fast moving field

hybrid cloud
sour shadow
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There's a reason it's banned from here (and other HA places) for using it to help people

hoary socket
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but the only interesting thing it said was that a device can only have one pairing

hushed hamlet
hoary socket
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so, if the remote is connected to the tradfri driver HA wont work, but if tradfri is connected to HA, I cant get the remote to work (yet)

#

is there a 1:1 limitation?

sour shadow
hoary socket
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so, I have to pair the driver to HA, and also the remote to HA and then create the actions for the remote

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or use a gateway?

sour shadow
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Well, after pairing to HA either bind it to the driver, or write automations

hoary socket
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but when I pair the remote with the driver it severs the connections for both with HA

sour shadow
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How are you doing that pairing?

hoary socket
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the first one, with the driver, I did by resetting the driver (tiny hole with a pick)

#

but I can only add the driver, not the lamps, as the lamps are not smart (Oversidan). then when I follow the instructions to pair the remote to the lamps it breaks all

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when I connected everything to HA the integration only worked on the app, not on the remote

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im reading the pairing instructions on the blakadder site

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I can try that

heady kayak
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The important thing to know about chatgpt, is that it doesn't understand anything except "these words tend to follow those words, when prompted by these words." which is why it will confidently say things which are entirely wrong. It's a fancier version of the predictive text on your phone keyboard. 'hallucinations' aren't a bug which can be sorted. They're inherent to how the system works.

sour shadow
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It's also rarely re-trained all the time on new data, so with HA for instance it's often using 3+ year old "knowledge"

heady kayak
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pair everything to HA. Then write automations for when you press buttons on the remote.

hoary socket
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Ill try that again

heady kayak
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it gives you more flexibility over all. like you could get fancy and have one press of the button do something, then the next do another thing. (start simple. always start simple.)

supple moat
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I just found a blueprint to connect my Hue compatible dimmers to my Hue bulbs, saved some time to just use someone else’s script

hoary socket
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and where such blueprints are found? maybe someone has already gone through what im going

heady kayak
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forums 🙂

supple moat
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I googled for them

heady kayak
hoary socket
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yeah, I think I found something in the community

#

exactly there, thanks Steve

supple moat
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Any recs on cheap disposable zigbee buttons 🤣

heady kayak
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depends what you mean by disposable 😄

#

using the 4 button ones

hoary socket
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pretty much teh same price

heady kayak
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I've had a few of those 🙂 Worked well enough. I wanted more buttons 😉

supple moat
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Thanks!

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I’ll run down to IKEA this weekend and get a couple. I want two or three to play with

heady kayak
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take a look at their other ones too

supple moat
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Like I’d like to set up a button to turn a local radio station on a select group of Alexa’s but don’t want to pay very much for that lol

hoary socket
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there goes you all fancy... I just want to turn the lights on 😛

heady kayak
supple moat
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I’m just tired of my girlfriend arguing with Alexa LMAO

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Buttons would be easier

hoary socket
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I left a bit to grab a bite, on my way up my wife asked me if I was going to play with her closet lights much longer

heady kayak
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very fair 😄

hoary socket
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so, I need to make it work

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and I have to remove, reset it and start all over, but now she is already laying down, so, no play

heady kayak
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partner approval factor is a very important thing 😄 (some say wife approval factor, but I'm being inclusive)

hoary socket
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so far, she thinks is a fad and she is not too happy... she is as analog as can be, me, not so much

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she is happy there are lights, not so much the switch is Bluetooth

supple moat
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The goal of a smart home IMO is for the people using it to not realize it’s a smart home 🤣

heady kayak
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The goal is 'make it seamless'. like putting in a door/window sensor so the light comes on when you open the closet door.

supple moat
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Yeah I just mean it shouldn’t require any thought or awareness from the user

hoary socket
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yeah, that was my idea, but she rather have the button 🤷

heady kayak
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good news 😄 One doesn't preclude the other.

supple moat
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That’s my problem with the gf lol, she doesn’t want to think about “how do I get Alexa to do this” she just wants to have it happen lol

golden vessel
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any cheap (< $5) thing to use as a repeater? does not need to be great and can be non-consumer-friendly (like the CC2531)

hybrid cloud
golden vessel
rapid dawnBOT
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@silk vortex I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
supple moat
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FYI for anyone having trouble with Lutron Aurora dimmer switches through ZHA Sonoff zigbee receiver to control Hue lights

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I had a couple issues but figured them out quickly

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Putting that there so people can find it on search and ask for help

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Double tapping the switch doesn’t always reset it (after unpairing from Hue hub)

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Do a triple tap and hold the Third press until a light flashes

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Then do a triple press again

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Then look for devices in ha ZHA

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Then double tap the dimmer

tulip patrol
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while keeping fingers crossed

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jesus

austere patio
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@silk vortex what devices? Is this a Sonoff ZBDongle-E? If so, is it on a USB extension cable?

mighty river
sour shadow
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TL/DR: Because of interference

silk vortex
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In the end i was able to get every zigbee device to be and stay connected (for now) by removing each device manually in HASS, then forcing every device into pairing mode, then deleting the zha integration, and then adding it again and pairing every device manually again by creating a new zigbee network. This process meant i had to manually fix a ton of automations and custom components which is really annoying

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i hope this never happens again . . .

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(the initial issue was that i could connect new devices just fine aslong as they were in range, they do their interview and get added, but they almost immediatly become and stay unavailable in HASS and their "pairing" LED didn't stop blinking after connecting to HASS. so if i would just refresh the pairing page the device would pair again and again and again until the device pairing mode times out)

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i even returned a smart socket back to amazon because i assumed the device itself was broken

astral seal
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Sounds like you might have some interference.

hoary crest
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hey all, is it possible to run z2m and zha simultaniously on the same adapter?

sour shadow
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No

hoary crest
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ok, can i temporary disable zha then somehow and install z2m to not lose all my zha functionality?

sour shadow
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What are you trying to do?

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Because that's likely to cause you problems

hoary crest
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i already got some problems with my zha setup that has become very unreliable somehow, actions need to be triggered several times until the devices recognize them, thus i wanted to try z2m to see if that works more stable (i heard so) ... also wanted to migrate to z2m anyways because some devices i have only work with z2m currently. so i wanted to setup some kind of temporary test with z2m without completeley removing my current zha setup because even though it doesn't work reliable currently it at least works sometimes and i am not sure yet if i am able to setup z2m in a short timespan

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so basically: disable zha, install and configure z2m for a few devices, if that fails remove z2m and reenable zha

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if everything runs smooth with z2m i would then remove zha

sour shadow
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Using Z2M is unlikely to change the reliability - the problem is 99.9999% likely to be with your mesh, not the software

molten linden
#

There is no easy way to move back and forth between zha to z2m and back, you will basically need to re-pair your devices each time. thus making any coordiniator backup kind of useless.

sand spire
#

Hi all, ive got an Ebay supposedly zigbee motion sensor and my sky connect doesnt pair with it. I dont know if theres a pairing method but it only has an on off switch and not a button. Anyone else got one? Looks like the inside of a kinder egg

supple moat
#

Holy moly
Last night I got set up so that my TV area accent lighting turns on when the TV starts playing media/games, and the accent lighting turns off when the TV turns off

astral seal
supple moat
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its so nice and requires zero thought, not even sure anyone else in my house will notice the automation

#

because its so seamless, this is the goal LMAO

austere patio
hoary crest
austere patio
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Debug mode is separate from diagnostics

hoary crest
austere patio
#

15 is a little noisy but nothing too bad. If you want to try changing channels to something quieter, you can do so from ZHA's configuration page. I would pick auto and it will move your network (and most, if not all) of your devices to the new channel.

hoary crest
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funny thing is it started acting up all of a sudden ... it was working fine for about a year

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i will try moving to another channel later, now i need to go to some bbq 😮

supple moat
#

wow, Im really impressed with Ikeas zigbee offerings 👀

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Really nice to be able to shop for what I need/want and not feel constrained by "does it work with X hub?"

sand spire
nimble escarp
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Hello, I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I just purchased a ConBee II USB stick and two Aqara Door and Window Sensors. I am setting up a new instance of Home Assistant in a docker container. I have a deconz container running and I can connect to the Phoscon page. When I start up Home Assistant for the first time, it sees the the hardware and adds in the deCONZ integration. I successfully linked with the Authenticate App in the Phoscon page and submitting the dialog in HA. However, the Aqara sensors are not being discoverd. Google led me to a solution that involves adding the sensors through deCONZ rather than through Phoscon. However, I have no idea how to access deCONZ in the way the images show. Videos I've found seem to show a deCONZ link in the left menu on HA, but I don't have that and they seem to be HASS.io based. Is there some configuration I'm missing?

nimble escarp
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Never mind. I finally figured out the trick to accessing deCONZ through VNC and my sensors are now paired

sour shadow
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I'd also suggest that you use ZHA instead of deCONZ

jaunty heart
#

I had really hoped that actually getting a usb extender would let my conbee II see my sengled bulbs, but so far no luck

#

I think the really frustrating part right now is that I'm new to all the home automation stuff, so I have no known good devices and therefore can't isolate the problem, so if anyone has any more ideas to troubleshoot that would be wonderful

#

i

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did I get wifi bulbs? somehow?

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I totally did

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I am about to have some words with amazon

jaunty heart
#

Turns out that was exactly it and they gave me a refund

grim igloo
#

you hate to see it

jaunty heart
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The box is for zigbee bulbs, but the bulbs inside are wifi

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Which is... odd, but they offered me a refund without needing to return them so I'm not complaining too much

grim igloo
#

ya that sucks

crude otter
#

hmm, just setup a presence sensor and trying to see what it outputs.. but when i start listening zha_event i get nothing..

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at all.

#

which is odd, as i have a bunch of zigbee devices

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hmm ok, it seems to show them on the web frontend, but not in the macos app

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and it does not seem to be exposing all of the features

#

mine only seems to show 2 diagnostic entities.. "LQI" and "RSSI" and they are hidden by default

hoary socket
#

guys, im having a hard time with tradfri driver and HA/SkyConnect. Would the ikea hub make my life any easier within HA?

violet dagger
#

What constitutes a "hard time"?

hoary socket
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you might see my ordeal a few lines up

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but, making a long story short, when I plug the ikea lamp driver into HA, I lose the ability to control it using the remote, when add the remote to HA to create the automations it does not work like prior to adding it to HA

cyan ocean
#

Hello, I'm looking for a zigbee device to toggle my doorbell (powered by 12v). So I can either activate or deactivate the doorbell button at certain times. What product do I need for that?

heady kayak
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(I'm not sure which remote you have)

hoary socket
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Hey Steve, I have the tradfri wireless dimmer. I tried a couple more times adding the driver and the remote, but I still cant get the automation properly

heady kayak
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So, when you have both attached to HA, can you control the driver from a dashboard?

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(that includes the dashboard within the ZHA integration.).

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if so, go to the remote's entity within ZHA. On the left hand side of the page, you'll see an automations bit, with a + on it. click the + and it'll pop up a window

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hit save, give it a name, then try hitting the on button

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then do it again with turn off

frigid sky
#

hello

#

sometimes I get zigbee erros in my log like: 2023-06-17 07:56:43.778 WARNING (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] NWK conflict is reported for 0x69fe but I don't know how to quickly find the device that corresponds to that NWK address. Is it possible to search the information found in the "Zigbee Info" section of the device info page?

# 
Nwk: 0x85dc
Device Type: Router
LQI: 255
RSSI: -60
Last Seen: 2023-06-17T09:14:50
Power Source: Mains ```
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It doesn't seem to be searchable in the developer tools: states section of HA

molten linden
#

These conflicts happen from time to time and really not much you can do about them.. asides from isolating the device and maybe removing it.

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There is a addon card which will put all your zigbee devices in a table easy to find

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Nwk etc

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You can install via hacs

frigid sky
molten linden
#

Make it a panel (1 card fills full page)

frigid sky
#

but what if...the zigbee info was listed as attributes so I can search using developer tools: states?

#

in the mean time I'll get that hacs thing, thanks for the info!

urban silo
#

Does anyone know if there are any GitHub issues or something for these generic Zigbee soil sensors https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005218556209.html) from AliExpress? The one I bought doesn't really work in ZHA and I'm not a developer so it would be a steep learning curve for me to figure it out but if it's a known issue I'd love to follow along or send a couple sensors to someone who has the skill set to make them work in ZHA.

They seem reasonably well built for outdoor use and it would be a dream come true if it worked in ZHA with my generic coordinator.

crude otter
onyx flame
#

What's the best ZigBee hub that is privacy focused (hopefully a FOSS solution)?

rapid dawnBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

carmine hamlet
#

Just don't buy a 'hub'

onyx flame
# carmine hamlet Just don't buy a 'hub'

Can I have multiple adapters? some of my devices are kinda far off the server, so I won't be able to just connect a USB adapter straight into it.
If not, are there adapters?

carmine hamlet
#

Zigbee is a mesh network

onyx flame
#

Yeah, but there's a chance that some of my areas will be too far from others.

#

Are those adapters that will be connected to the boards or rather to the server?

crude otter
#

I have that issue

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I ended up with a sonoff ZigBee to ethernet bridge for that

carmine hamlet
#

You can use a PoE coordinator or Pi running Z2M to make another network

crude otter
#

So the garage stuff just shows up as entities, not ZigBee devices

onyx flame
#

How big is the wifi overhead? I'm new to this and still trying to wrap my head around designing a basic architecture of the devices I need, and seems I'm still not sure about the role ZigBee will play here, I'm thinking of adding it later, will there be a hefty difference? Should I push through and get it done now and not later?

lilac wharf
#

WiFi overhead as in zigbee interference with WiFi? If so, if there is interference, generally WiFi will interfere with Zigbee, not the other way around

onyx flame
astral seal
astral seal
#

If you want to use Zigbee, you need to start with using Zigbee in your first "phase".

#

It really comes down to exactly what all you're trying to do with Home Assistant.

onyx flame
onyx flame
violet dagger
#

with what firmware do you plan on using those chips?

carmine hamlet
#

You'll need to explain what you mean by 'overhead'

onyx flame
# carmine hamlet You'll need to explain what you mean by 'overhead'

How bad would it be to start with WiFi only (considering that all the boards I will be purchasing will support ZigBee, most likely ESP32-C6), how stable are WiFi based networks, is there that big of a difference between WiFi and ZigBee which justifies putting in much more money on a brand new network while the current one can work? If I will choose to start with WiFi, will the migration to ZigBee (when it will be done) be expensive? (both due to human hours and equipment)

mighty river
onyx flame
violet dagger
#

You're fine starting with just wifi, largest percentage of my devices are wifi. You just need to have a good infrastructure aka not your ISP issued crap router

crude otter
#

so this isnt completely accurate.. because there seems to be a bunch of 'variants' with the same model name

#

different 'manufacturer name' or something it seems

violet dagger
#

and there's a manufacturer name right there on the page

crude otter
#

mine is "TS0601
by _TZE204_sxm7l9xa"

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but there is no way to know that, before buying sadly

#

i managed to find a quirk, and its 'somewhat' working

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i bought it thinking "the ZY-M100-S is supported" 😦

violet dagger
#

you should complain to the manufacturer for reusing the same model number

crude otter
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i was hoping to have a cheaper alternative to the FP1/FP2

violet dagger
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you do, but its Tuya

crude otter
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so far i dont have a good experience with the occupancy

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the lux meter works well, but the occupancy seems to stay on 'detected' for a very long time

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so unless its 'seeing' something that isnt there, i dont know why

violet dagger
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because the occupancy timeout is high

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or you have something moving in its range like a fan

ember raven
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As of yesterday (I think) it seems none of my zigbee devices are working. I get an error for example when trying to turn on a light. Any thoughts?

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Debug 2023-06-18 19:02:39Error: Command 0x00124b0024c137a4/1 genOnOff.on({}, {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (115)) at DeconzAdapter.sendZclFrameToEndpoint (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/deconz/adapter/deconzAdapter.ts:656:23) at runMicrotasks (<anonymous>) at runNextTicks (node:internal/process/task_queues:61:5) at processTimers (node:internal/timers:499:9) at Request.send (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/helpers/request.ts:81:20) at Endpoint.command (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/model/endpoint.ts:835:28) at Object.convertSet (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman-converters/src/converters/toZigbee.js:293:17) at Publish.onMQTTMessage (/app/lib/extension/publish.ts:247:36)
ember raven
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Seems now my zb adapter has decided to stop working. Conbee stick. Getting this in the z2m logs:

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[21:34:51] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2023-06-18 21:34:58: Loaded state from file /config/zigbee2mqtt/state.json
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-06-18 21:34:58: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-06-18.21-34-58' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2023-06-18 21:34:58: Removing old log directory '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-06-18.21-17-31'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-06-18 21:34:59: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.31.2 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-06-18 21:34:59: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.117)
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2023-06-18 21:34:59: Using zigbee-herdsman with settings: '{"adapter":{"concurrent":null,"delay":null,"disableLED":false},"backupPath":"/config/zigbee2mqtt/coordinator_backup.json","databaseBackupPath":"/config/zigbee2mqtt/database.db.backup","databasePath":"/config/zigbee2mqtt/database.db","network":{"channelList":[11],"extendedPanID":[221,221,221,221,221,221,221,221],"networkKey":"HIDDEN","panID":6754},"serialPort":{"adapter":"deconz","path":"/dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2487354-if00"}}'
2023-06-18T19:34:59.634Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter Failed to validate path: 'Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT'
tulip patrol
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@ember raven Hello, have you tried physically removing the conbee, then reattaching it, then rebooting the host?

chrome valve
real quiver
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Hi all quick question;
I have a skyconnect icw ZHA and a sonoff stick with zigbee2mqtt. Both connected with usb extension. Complete network (30 lamps motion sensors) connected to ZHA. Problem: i have 2 TUYA powerplugs which can pair zha or mqtt when inside same room as the radio. When i move them to final location ( surround by routers, hue bulbs etc) it just wont pair whatever I try on either the integrations. 2 tuya plugs paired in 1 go, 2 don’t.. any tips or shall i buy a different brand?

zenith trellis
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Hey there, maybe someone can guide me in the right direction. I have problems with HA+ZigBee (HA docker + conbee2 + 47 devices). I had now and then problems concerning availability/responsivness (e.g switches not reacting or reacting like 30-90sec later). But it gets worse. For example: Yesterday in the evening everything was fine, all automations (motion -> light) and devices were working like expected. Today in the morning I've tried to switch the light on... it'll turn on but like 3-5 minutes (!) after activating the switch in HA. HA restart and docker restart doesn't help. I've allready switched from channel 11 to 25 for testing purpose, it was fine for like 2 days. It feels like all started after HA updates because it worked like a charm for the first few months with 40-50 devices. All wifi devices including router were not moved or changed since the beginning.

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for the most (nearly all) zigbee trv devices I see the last entry at about 23:00-23-30 yesterday... from then no response. but my tuya temperature/humidity sensors are reporting their stuff for example.

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I would like to know where to start 😦

astral seal
real quiver
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Thanks will try a few times by pairing via a device next to it. I tried pairing in final destination ofcourse. 👍🏻

austere patio
supple moat
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How many Zigbee devices can the Sonoff stick support?

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I currently have about 65 connected and not sure what my max is

austere patio
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It depends on the specific devices but a few hundred at least

sour shadow
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It's also a factor of how many routers you have, and how many devices are Zigbee 3.0

supple moat
sour shadow
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The CC2652 based coordinators are limited to 50 direct children and 200 Zigbee 3.0 devices

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(that 200 limit may be a general Zigbee 3.0 limit, unsure)

supple moat
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Awesome thanks!

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And I somehow I max it out, I can just buy a second stick right?

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(I can’t imagine I’d triple my current zigbee devices, but just in case )

austere patio
astral seal
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So why do people always seem to have problems when they try to change their Zigbee channel? Is it because they're misdiagnosing the problem and introducing new changes just makes things worse or?

zenith trellis
zenith trellis
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thank you for help @austere patio

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and @astral seal ofc

austere patio
zenith trellis
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@austere patio interesting... nothing happens when I select "download diagnostic information" .... the button is marked as "pressed" for a few seconds

austere patio
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It takes about five seconds for the diagnostics to download

zenith trellis
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but should be a browser download, right?

austere patio
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Yes

zenith trellis
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i mean... as usual as it can be

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wow... it popped up

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after like.... 5 minutes

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uhmmm i'm not able to paste the file here

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let me upload it

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mh, i guess it's the wrong one

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but it's called config_entry-zha-dcXXX.json.txt

dim night
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I'm encountering an issue with a ZHA light group, consisting of three Sengled E21-N1EA bulbs, when used in conjunction with the IKEA Styrbar E2002 switch. Rapidly operating the switch causes the lights to become unresponsive after responding two or three times for approximately 5-10 seconds. I suspect that the light group may be the cause of the problem because in other rooms, where I have a single bulb, I can switch the light rapidly without any issues.

Additional Details:

  • Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB dongle (Plug CC2652P) is being used, running the latest Z-Stack firmware, plugged into a USB extension cord.

  • Home Assistant is running as a Proxmox VM.

  • USB 3.0 is disabled in the BIOS.

  • The problem persists even with the wireless access points turned off.

astral seal
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Replicate the issue and see what it says in your logs. Do the devices become unavailable during that time or are they just unresponsive to commands?

austere patio
dim night
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they do not, but I am seeing something unexpected. I think an old automation might be triggering.

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scratch that. I got confused my by my naming convention. I'm gathering relevant information.

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Nothing goes unavailable. The unresponsive commands do not get logged. If im persistent, the lights will go out of sync.

astral seal
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I think the solution here is probably just "don't rapid toggle your light groups".

dim night
austere patio
dim night
austere patio
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Indeed. But a group command is a broadcast and is relayed to every device on your network, multiple times.

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Commands to a specific device are not, they are routed directly to the device

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So sending 20 unicast commands at once is possible. Sending 20 broadcasts is not.

dim night
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I see.

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Does the size of the group increase the amount of traffic? To me it seems that cycling the colors of three bulbs at a rate of 1 - 1.5 times per second doesn't seem like an unreasonable expectation. I imagine people use groups with more than 3 members.

austere patio
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The size doesn't matter because the devices decide whether or not they are members of a group, not the other way around.

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All that happens is that the group command is broadcast to the whole network. You can in theory tune the way this happens but it's usually better to just use a normal Home Assistant light group instead of a Zigbee group if you plan on sending group commands frequently.

dim night
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That makes sense. I appreciate the education.

astral seal
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3 unicasts vs a simulcast
I was goofing around trying to replicate your issue with my HA light groups (also Zigbee, same brand even), and they didn't have a problem with being sent commands repeatedly, multiple times per second.

dim night
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I appreciate your effort. Could it be that my implementation is inefficient? Let me gather that.

astral seal
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Yeah I think using HA light groups rather than grouping the lights in Zigbee might be better if you're going to be rapidly sending commands.
But I also know one advantage of using the Zigbee group is the option of binding the group to the switch, so you can have the switch turn the lights on and off even if HA is down.

rapid dawnBOT
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@dim night I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
dim night
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I wonder if mode: single could be affecting performance.

astral seal
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With each script designating the next color in the sequence?

dim night
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Yes, I have a script for each color.

astral seal
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I wonder if the problem is actually coming from the scripts trying to run too close together, since each time you hit that button it runs the next script in the sequence. Try adding a short delay at the beginning of each script.

dim night
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I'll give it a shot.

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One sec, something broke.

dim night
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changing to a HA group improved things a little bit. still testing out different delays. I can see every time i press the button, it get logged. The lights are just inconsistent.

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I'm giving it a rest for the day. Thanks again for helping me troubleshoot.

fallow lily
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Hi I have a Zigbee usb adapter and I want to use it via usbip (or ser2net) can I use the zwave-js-ui setup or is that specific to z-wave?

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It's my first usbip setup and I tried getting that going but it doesn't look like I can load the right kernel module on haos

hoary socket
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@heady kayak thanks for the guide. I tried today with the blinds and it worked like a charm, was able to create my first automations

heady kayak
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😀 glad to hear it.

hoary socket
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now I need to learn how to make it prettier, more usable, but I'll get there

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we'll chat more tomorrow, its late for me

austere patio
half cradle
heady kayak
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I think they just meant the talking back and forth, and a few screenshots I pulled together.

amber pike
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I successfully added ORVIBO MixSwitch 3 gangs (Model: T40W3Z) via Zigbee2mqtt (Using Sonoff Dongle Plus). I noticed that I could not control them manually after that. I searched for a long time with no success to solve it. When reset the switch and connect it to Orvibo MixPad (Zigbee Hub), it is working via Orvibo app and manually! Anyone can help?

hoary socket
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exactly what I meant, but made a difference

hoary socket
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OK, installed bulbs and flicked them 6 times and HA cant find them (yet), but as everything, it probably need to get acquainted with my HA 😕

half cradle
hoary socket
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and lo and behold, they all showed up after a noter try

lusty yew
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Anyone know if it's possible to back up a conbee and restore it onto another? I'm thinking of setting up a backup instance of HA I can spin up if the primary goes down.

ember raven
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I'm having some zigbee problems, and I think it's related to my USB adapter not being found anymore (conbee). It seemed to have "just happened" with no particular reason.

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This is the last error in the log (z2m add-on log):

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-06-18 21:34:59: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2487354-if00'
    at SerialPort.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/deconz/driver/driver.ts:200:28)
    at SerialPort._error (/app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:75:22)
    at /app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:111:18
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Any advice how to troubleshoot? I have tried rebooting my RPi

violet dagger
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your configured port doesn't exist or zigbee2mqtt cannot access it

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if it just happened without you upgrading things or messing with the hardware the most likely cause is that the stick died

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can you check if its working in another computer

ember raven
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Ah yeah can test the stick in my laptop of course

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What should it do in a macbook if I plug it in? Any way to test it?

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It lights up yellow when plugged in

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DOH wrong stick! Took my z-wave stgick out

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Looks like my macbook recognises it fine:

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ConBee II:

  Product ID:    0x0030
  Vendor ID:    0x1cf1
  Version:    1.00
  Serial Number:    DE2487354
  Speed:    Up to 12 Mb/s
  Manufacturer:    dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik GmbH
  Location ID:    0x14410000 / 6
  Current Available (mA):    500
  Current Required (mA):    100
  Extra Operating Current (mA):    0
last ruin
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How can I use the Xiaomi Mijia WXKG01LM as hold to dim in Z2M?

ember raven
violet dagger
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if the stick works something else is causing the issue, maybe access permissions

sour shadow
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There's a new bug in Debian 11 that causes the /dev/serial/by-id folder to vanish

violet dagger
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wasn't that fixed already?

ember raven
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Ah, that seems relevant!

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HAOS 10.3 doesn't seem to mention anything about that issue though?

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Shall I just do the HOAS 10.3 update, and then put the stick back and hope?

sour shadow
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Shouldn't be a HAOS issue

ember raven
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I thought HAOS includes the debian updateS?

sour shadow
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HAOS doesn't use Debian

ember raven
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Ah, I was just assuming. But then I shouldn't have the bug right? Although it does seem suspiciously similar

sour shadow
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Not that bug anyway

ember raven
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Well I have backups. Let me go to 10.3 and see what happens 😄

mighty river
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Morning All, what are people do with Zigbee Mesh's where you have more than 77 devices ? ... I'm looking at methods of expanding as I will be reaching 130+ devices in total .... all I can curently think of is a second HA instance using the Hacs plugin for connecting multiple HA sites.

violet dagger
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get a stick that supports a bigger mesh

sour shadow
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I've got 90 or so devices on one mesh, and know many people who have a couple of hundred on theirs

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Somewhere around the 200 mark is where you start to find out if you've got badly behaved devices on that mesh

mighty river
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Ahh Okay I may have missread the documentation, I thought that HA could only support 77 devices on one mesh. I'm currently using the ConBee II The universal Zigbee USB gateway, I don't suppose either of you have had much luck with that ?

sour shadow
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Not sure where you read that

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The ConBee is ... ok, not awesome, but ok - at least if you have it on a USB extension cable

mighty river
# sour shadow Not sure where you read that

I read from the /integrations/zha/ of the website under Total device limit = 77 devices ... but I just saw the above part "In this theoretical example, a CC2652-based Zigbee coordinator has three CC2530 Zigbee router devices for a total limit of 77 devices:".

mighty river
sour shadow
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You missed the EXAMPLE word when reading clearly 😛

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Their math is also faulty since a CC2652 coordinator can support 50 child devices

mighty river
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It's been a long morning ! 😂

jade mist
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hi all, i would like to know your thoughts on the following:

(preliminary:) currently I am running HA in a HAOS VM plus a Rpi4b with HAOS as a physical satellite to host the RF hardware (currently Slaesh Z2M USB stick and a Zwave USB stick with Zwave2M, for simplicity as HAOS addons that connect per MQTT to the main HAOS with Mosquitto addon). I will abandon Zwave. I am thinking about going away from using the Rpi as a satellite and replacing that with a SLZB-06 coordinator. At the same time I know that Matter is upcoming and then I might need an Rpi as USB host again for that.

(1) do we have folks here who have experience with SLZB-06 AND other ethernet Z2M adapters? what are downsides of the SLZB-06? Is it the device I want to have or do you thing a different z2M ethernet adapter is better?

(2) (Are there ethernet adapters already available for thread?) - moved this to the channel on Thread..

(3) Would it be best to run Zigbee and Thread as standalone ethernet adapters, or should I stay with my current setup with a satellite Rpi hosting USB adapters for Zigbee and Thread?

heady kayak
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I'm guessing you can't plug the usb straight into the vm. because of location? or the hypervisor?

jade mist