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sharp kraken
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Anybody able to help?

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I can find similar problems on the forum, but no solution...

sharp kraken
still heath
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That sounds like maybe a bug. What are you using for your integration? dconz?

sharp kraken
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SkyConnect via ZHA

orchid patio
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Can anyone suggest some recommended hardware for my needs? I'm looking for a USB Zigbee receiver that's supported under linux (so, probably needs to talk like a serial port over the USB) preferably with transmit available (so my server can activate alarms) and preferably without me needing to re-flash the thing, plus, I'm looking for a large number of "door" sensors which must include a low-battery message feature, and send both "open" and "closed" messages. I'm also after an external tamperproof-waterproof-solar siren+light, and a dozen or so motion sensors (again - everything must have low-battery alerts). Goal is an alarm system. Setup has no internet access. My preference is aliexpress or something similarly affordable. Sorry to sound like a n00b... I just bought a bunch of 433mhz stuff which has turned out to be more pain to figure out than I care to invest (none of my EPS32 sketches are seeing any data from any of the 4 different RX modules I got, and nor is my oscilloscope: time to cut losses and move to zigbee I'm thinking...). I'm a proficient electornics and embedded firmware dude. Zero experience with any kind of home automation or wireless alarm gear though.

rapid dawnBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

sour shadow
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For door/window sensors the Xiaomi Aqara sensors are good - the E1 or T1 ones are better than the OG version (Zigbee 3.0 vs 1.2), but all are generally fine

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You will need to buy Zigbee router devices

orchid patio
sour shadow
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You need a router because the point to point range is around 6 to 8 meters

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Coordinators also support a limited number of directly connected devices

orchid patio
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cannot do direct - concrete walls.

sour shadow
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Then... you need routers

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Zigbee routers, not WiFi routers ... just in case you're confused

orchid patio
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do routers use wires? if yes... concrete walls again.

sour shadow
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No

orchid patio
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Sorry mate - I'm a bit new to this discord stuff... where are the "pins" you mean? in this zigbee channel, or someplace else?

sour shadow
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Pinned messages

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Top of the window, on the right

grim igloo
sharp kraken
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Also a noob here... As far as I know almost every zigbee device on wired power can be a router. E.g. a light bulb.

sour shadow
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Most, not all

orchid patio
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No internet whatsoever, fwiw.

sour shadow
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Zigbee doesn't use your Internet

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Or your WiFi

sour shadow
orchid patio
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True, but alexa and everything else that a "router" probably wants to talk to does , right?

sour shadow
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For WiFi stuff, sure

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Don't confuse WiFi with Zigbee

grim igloo
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Zigbee repeaters are also called routers if that helps

sharp kraken
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Can anybody help with this...?

grim igloo
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Look for open issues on zha GitHub page and create one if not

orchid patio
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I fully understand wifi isn't zigbee - I'm just pointing out that everyhting "smarter" than a lightbulb is almost always not goign to work without it's own conenction to some cloud or other. In fact - Home Assistant itself cannot work offline either, right ?

grim igloo
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It’s a holiday so not a great time to ask about broken things like that

sour shadow
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HA can work fine offline

grim igloo
sour shadow
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HAOS struggles in the default config, and you need internet for updates/installing new integrations, but other than that...

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You can certainly just have it online for those things

grim igloo
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There’s no LTS version and support will often require you to be on latest or semi latest regardless of install method. With that being said if you setup everything local and have a good mesh (zigbee, zwave, etc) then yes it would be just fine offline

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It’s a rapid development pace with many many PRs merged monthly

sour shadow
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There are plenty of people who run HA mostly offline

orchid patio
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Has anyone experimented with MyCroft ? I spent a few hours researching and from the little I could work out, mycroft seems less likely to give problems without any internet than HA?

grim igloo
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That’s a dead project

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Or whatever they’re calling the new voice thing. Piper I think

orchid patio
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Does anything called "zigbee" on aliexpress work with all of CC2652 and CC1352 and CC2531 devices?

sour shadow
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Mostly... but do yourself a favour and be cautious with anything Tuya

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Also, where possible buy Zigbee 3.0

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Oh, and Sonoff's sensors are ... not great

grim igloo
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And cc2652p or efr32 depending on zha or z2m choice

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Not older ones

orchid patio
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I'm getting just one of a range of things to start with - I'll buy "lots" of whatever I confirm works the way I need. I found some CC2531 USB "dongles" with SMA sockets and 8db antennas, so I'm hoping that will get me some range. I'm stumped on the "CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices" comment - I assume you're not actually meaning the CC2531, but rather, whatever router/repeater uses it? When I plug the CC2531 sniffer into my linux box, there's no limit to device counts - right? I don't care about speed - my cams will use wifi, not zigbee (again - without internet though).

sour shadow
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The CC2351 is an ok router, it's a shit coordinator

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If you're daft enough to buy one then you've got a limit of about a dozen devices before it shits the bed at random

harsh mango
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hi, any recommendations for small zigbee plugs? the sonoff ones are too big for one specific area, but I don't want to buy garbage lol.

sour shadow
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Country?

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I mean... I could recommend some UK plugs, but if you're not in the UK that's not helpful 😉

harsh mango
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whoops sorry, good point (and you did mention that before): USA

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I'm trying to pack so much in today I'm all over the place.

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😄

carmine hamlet
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they're also a partner with HA, and support OTA FW updates

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in my case, my switch doesn't expose any of these:
const whitelistFeatureNames = ['state', 'brightness', 'color_temp', 'mode', 'sound', 'occupancy', 'tamper', 'alarm'];, so it isn't shown. It does expose "action", so I added it to the list as a test and it shows up in my dashboard now. Maybe I'll do a PR and see what they say...

harsh mango
harsh mango
austere patio
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Too wide? They take up exactly one outlet height-wise.

carmine hamlet
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Right, that's what I cared about

open mica
languid acorn
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Hi, I'm having an issue with Zigbee2MQTT and HA. It seems that HA is forgetting all devices actions. I don't know if it's HA or Z2M's fault. I made a discussion about it here : https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/discussions/17834 if someone here has some time, could you tell me if you have an idea ? Thanks in advance and have a good day.

near echo
rapid dawnBOT
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@manic loom I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
manic loom
stray wolf
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what're the cheapest smart curtain/blinds that work reasonably well?

opaque helm
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Why zigbee2mqtt ain't a good idea with sonoff dongle-E?
I couldn't find any real reason on the internet

sour shadow
sharp kraken
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Color and color temperature not working with SkyConnect on ZHA and Lidl rgb/white lightbulb

ember valve
languid acorn
mellow geode
ember valve
# mellow geode What device are you looking to write a quirk for?

I have some motion sensors which can be programmed to have a 30, 60 or 120 seconds activation window. This option is not available for me with HA, but my dad using Tuya can set it. I haven't been able to find any quirk for it from googling, so I'm guessing I would have to write my own.

near echo
dire owl
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Hi, does anybody know if the IKEA TRADFRI on/off switch does its supervisor check every 4 hrs? It seems to go offline if I don't use it. Would make sense if it is supposed to be like that (for battery saving). It comes back online when I use the button, and thus leads me to believe it sleeping.

austere patio
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Click the "Reconfigure" button on the device page and press the button itself repeatedly (at the same time). The device likely has no reporting set up.

dire owl
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ok will do this. Will doing this create a reporting interval or it simply does not support it?

grim igloo
dire owl
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that makes sense

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thanks

late imp
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Did you ever figure this one out?

gleaming jay
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Any troubleshooting suggestions? I have a TRADFRI open/close remote that used to work okay, then stopped. When I re-add it within seconds it immediately becomes "unknown" again

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I've replaced the battery

dire owl
late imp
dire owl
late imp
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yeah exactly. So I bought the wrong one..

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and then I guess the next question if my wifi range is good enough in the garage..

dire owl
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You would have the same problem if it was zigbee, because they are both 2.4 Ghz

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how far is it?

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zigbee uses mesh, so it should be better compared to wifi but you will need some reliable repeaters/routers (i.e. non battery powered Zigbee devices in between)

sour shadow
dire owl
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you're right, knowing the distance helps to decide

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You really want your garage door opener to be reliable.

languid acorn
late imp
dire owl
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The Shelly/ESPHome/Zigbee relay way could work well for you, but with a little more, you can complete garage door packages. Some zigbee device manufacterues don't have good security. Zwave devices always do
If you have z-wave, there are some all in one devices available. Personally, I have the GoControl/Linear GD00Z-4. It comes with everything including tilt sensor.

grim igloo
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well zwave dont "always do" anything it widely depends on the brand and firmware.. with that being said certain zwave devices supports "s2" which confirms packets arrive (think tcp) so for something like a smoke alarm, garage door, etc, it's a nice feature that I look for

dire owl
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that's true, S0 for example

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but ZigBee is more "abused" in terms of quality control... and if my neighbor has his usb controller in pairing mode at the same time as me, they could technically pair the same device in their network, for example.

sour shadow
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A device can only be in one mesh at a time, and Z-Wave has the same "timing" problem

wicked crow
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Does anybody know where can I buy Zigbee Development Board? One of the Tuya TYZS preferably

austere patio
wicked crow
lofty whale
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I am getting a "refused to connect" on my zigbee2mqtt ipanel after a fresh install of zigbee2mqtt everytime (Docker install). Can anyone help to troubleshoot this?

carmine hamlet
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When you say "ipanel", are talking about embedding the Zigbee2MQTT interface into HA via panel_iframe?

lofty whale
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yes

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sorry got the terms wrong

carmine hamlet
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and you can access it directly via your browser?

lofty whale
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please help. I tried a few dongles and it is the same problem

carmine hamlet
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trying a bunch of dongles isn't necessarily going to fix your ability to get to the webpage

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so...is your issue with the iframe, or accessing the UI at all?

lofty whale
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I have not managed to access any zigbee2mqtt UI at all

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how do I access the UI for zigbee2mqtt?

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IPaddress:8080?

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could it be that my router is blocking port 8080?

carmine hamlet
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no

lofty whale
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I did the docker compose part only

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after doing the initial configuration

carmine hamlet
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it probably can't talk to your dongle

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docker logs -f zigbee2mqtt

lofty whale
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Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:30:23: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.30.4 (commit #b2dd21e)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:30:23: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.111)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:30:24: zigbee-herdsman started (resumed)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:30:24: Coordinator firmware version: '{"meta":{"maintrel":1,"majorrel":2,"minorrel":7,"product":1,"revision":20210708,"transportrev":2},"type":"zStack3x0"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:30:24: Currently 0 devices are joined:
Zigbee2MQTT:warn  2023-05-31 09:30:24: `permit_join` set to  `true` in configuration.yaml.
Zigbee2MQTT:warn  2023-05-31 09:30:24: Allowing new devices to join.
Zigbee2MQTT:warn  2023-05-31 09:30:24: Set `permit_join` to `false` once you joined all devices.
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:30:24: Zigbee: allowing new devices to join.
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:30:24: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://localhost
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:30:24: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 127.0.0.1:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:30:24: MQTT failed to connect, exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:30:24: Stopping zigbee-herdsman...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:30:25: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 127.0.0.1:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:30:30: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 127.0.0.1:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:30:31: Stopped zigbee-herdsman```
carmine hamlet
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there's your problem

lofty whale
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mqtt?

carmine hamlet
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clearly

rapid dawnBOT
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@lofty whale I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
lofty whale
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I did set my ip address in the zigbee2mqtt configuration.yml but it still connects to 127.0.0.1:1883

grim igloo
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you definitely didnt just leak your password right

lofty whale
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I definitely didnt 🙂

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can you please show me how to correct this mqtt setting?

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do I need to remove the ' in the begining and the end?

grim igloo
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i dont see single quotes in the docs anywhere for server or password

lofty whale
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I meant for server URL

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password as well

carmine hamlet
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Mine looks just like that, but doesn't have :1883. Do you know what you've installed and configured your MQTT broker properly?

lofty whale
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my mqtt is working. I can connect to it with mqtt explorer

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but why does the logs show that it is connecting to mqtt via 127.0.0.1:1833?

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serial:
  # Location of CC2531 USB sniffer
    adapter: ezsp
    port: /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0```
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I changed the adaptor

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Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:51:05: Logging to console and directory: '/app/data/log/2023-05-31.09-51-05' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:51:05: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.30.4 (commit #b2dd21e)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:51:05: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.111)
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:51:26: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:51:26: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:51:26: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:51:26: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:51:26: Error: Connection not initialized
    at Ezsp.execCommand (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/ezsp.ts:551:19)
    at Ezsp.version (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/ezsp.ts:349:35)
    at Driver.startup (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/driver.ts:141:25)
    at EZSPAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/adapter/ezspAdapter.ts:165:16)
    at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29)
    at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:58:27)
    at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:101:27)
    at start (/app/index.js:107:5)```
grim igloo
lofty whale
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its the p dongle

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what should it be?

grim igloo
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nothing

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commented out (i think)

lofty whale
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ok lemme restrt docker adn try this

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Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:54:22: Logging to console and directory: '/app/data/log/2023-05-31.09-54-22' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:54:22: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.30.4 (commit #b2dd21e)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 09:54:22: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.111)
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:54:22: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:54:22: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:54:22: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:54:22: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 09:54:22: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0'
    at SerialPort.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.ts:146:28)
    at SerialPort._error (/app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:76:22)
    at /app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:112:18```
lofty whale
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Still cant...:

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Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 10:19:49: Logging to console and directory: '/app/data/log/2023-05-31.10-19-49' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 10:19:49: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.30.4 (commit #b2dd21e)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-31 10:19:49: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.111)
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 10:19:49: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 10:19:49: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 10:19:49: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 10:19:49: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-31 10:19:49: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyUSB.CC2531-01'
    at SerialPort.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.ts:146:28)
    at SerialPort._error (/app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:76:22)
    at /app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:112:18```
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I have done the steps in zigbee2mqtt.io to give write access to the port.

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Is there anything I must do to initialise the sonoff zigbee dongle? Its fresh from the box

grim igloo
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No but it’s usually a good idea to update the firmware

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There’s guides to do it with python

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You can do it later if you want

lofty whale
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what should I do now?

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tried for many weeks and still the same issue

grim igloo
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Well I’d join z2m discord server if no one here jumps in to help

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It really shouldn’t be this hard

lofty whale
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Thanks I will do a fresh install and try again

carmine hamlet
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It doesn't seem like you're passing the device into the container properly. Or you need to enable privileged mode

solid inlet
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Hi guys, I have an ongoing update of an Ikea E1743 button (on/off switch). Thing is, Ikea has no mention of new update on their site?? This is all I know... How can I find out what it's doing please? ```
Installed version 587699761
Latest version 604241926

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I am using Z2M, but that should have little to do with the actual firmware...right?

carmine hamlet
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Device makers are terrible at providing release notes for firmware

solid inlet
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Well, yes, agree...

carmine hamlet
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You may need to email their support

solid inlet
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I was a little surprised as it before had to be "woken up" to see an upgrade... But I take it this has changed?

carmine hamlet
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Z2M does a check when it starts, and usually fails for battery devices. I don't know if it just queues them for later

solid inlet
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Also.. What are the numbers representing the versions? Epoch?

carmine hamlet
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Whatever the device maker wants

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My plugs are like v1.00.55

solid inlet
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Ok, thought it perhaps was a datecode or such, but then I know

lofty whale
solid inlet
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well, yes... but I mean, Z2M shows it to currently have version 2.3.079, and then this... Installed version 587699761. So this odd number is somehow == to 2.3.079?

lofty whale
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priviledged mode in linux?

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is it possible to install HAOS on Linux?

carmine hamlet
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It is an OS

lofty whale
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so only on VM in linux?

solid inlet
lofty whale
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maybe I will try that route

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this z2m setup in docker is just too difficult

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and my motion sensors dont work in ZHA....

solid inlet
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Yeah, docker never caught my attention really... I hope you get it sorted 🙂

lofty whale
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are you running frigate as well?

solid inlet
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No, sorry

lofty whale
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ok thanks!

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1 quick question

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proxmox runs on top of linux?

solid inlet
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Proxmox is a baremetal hypervisor, so an ISO you install as an OS too.

earnest plaza
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Is there any limit to the number of zigbee commands that can be issued at once?

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I'm running into a confusing issue with scripts where I'm trying to turn off all the lights in my apartment (~10) and the script is turning off most but not all of them.

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I'm not sure if it's a script issue or a zigbee issue.

austere patio
earnest plaza
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I have an HA Yellow, so EZSP

austere patio
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There isn't, commands are queued in software once they hit a limit. What bulbs aren't responding reliably? Sengled?

earnest plaza
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no lol, inovelli

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switches

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surprisingly

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I'm becoming more convinced it's not a zigbee issue

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i've broken the script out into a couple of light.turn_off invocations, I put all the inovelli switches in their own light.turn_off call and they're reliably turning off / on

austere patio
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Are they a part of a Zigbee group when you were originally trying to turn them all on/off?

near echo
rapid dawnBOT
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@earnest plaza I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
earnest plaza
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fight me, HA bot 😛

austere patio
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Interesting. Can you grab a ZHA debug log of you calling both, with one working and the other not?

earnest plaza
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not sure how to grab a zha debug log but happy to learn

austere patio
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In the list of integrations, find ZHA. Under the three dot menu, there's an entry called "Enable debug logging". Once you disable it, a debug log file will download.

earnest plaza
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ooh fun trick

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nothing particularly compelling in the logs, looks like

austere patio
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If you could, PM them over. There should be no difference between the two invocations but you never know.

earnest plaza
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ok one sec let me set up an apples to apples test

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now it's uh

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working???

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sorry for the delay here, classic error situation where I'm trying to repro and it's no longer reproing

austere patio
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No worries, send it over if/whenever you can get it and I'll take a look at it tomorrow

earnest plaza
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ok well I got it to repro but I checked the logs and there are no errors

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Did you want me to leave debug mode on for the duration?

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or just toggle it to get the logs and see if there were errors?

austere patio
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Sure. I'm interested in the status codes and counters, you likely won't see error messages. The full, unredacted log is best.

earnest plaza
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ok let me try again with debug mode enabled for the duration and I'll upload the log

half cradle
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Now my wife won't let me get cheaper ones....

earnest plaza
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yeah they're slick

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it's confusing why they're not playing nice with the scripts here, though I'm guessing I'm actually running into a problem with automations? or the two not playing nice together?

half cradle
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I just am setting them up, I haven't got a chance to automate them yet. They have so many settings.

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If you turn them all on or off together, can't you group them via scene?

earnest plaza
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I've checked the automation trace as well, and it shows it as turning off only a couple of the lights each time /shrug

half cradle
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Shouldn't you have a scene?

earnest plaza
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word on the street is scripts are better than scenes for most cases

half cradle
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Yea well the street says don't use zha and use mqtt for everything because it will cure cancer and save babies

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Speaking of, I guess you could try mqtt, I am using zha with no issues. I'm curious if scenes work

earnest plaza
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lol also true

earnest plaza
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puddly and I seem to have figured it out over DM

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the answer, as it so often is, seems to be "just add retries lol"

#

so anyway 🎉 now I can push button and turn off all light

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one thing I was doing which I later figured out was dumb was combining light.turn_off and switch.turn_off

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the inovelli blues have a bunch of config options that manifest as switch

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so switch.turn_off was turning off many more things than it was supposed to be

#

very confusing for a few minutes

half cradle
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Like red means garage door open

earnest plaza
#

it's not documented anywhere that I could find, but the automations screen has a bunch of useful stuff for doing just that

#

the inovelli website directs you to some guy's github where he has a tool for setting config values

half cradle
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Lol

earnest plaza
#

but the automation screen actually just lets you do "issue effect for all LEDs"

half cradle
#

I like the configuration in the booklet for HA, "Did you really think we could list all home assistant automation here? Go to this Url"

earnest plaza
#

tho the color selector is just a 1-255 slider so you have to figure out what number corresponds to what color weeps in ux design

earnest plaza
half cradle
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My wife is like why can't it use RGB

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I mean hex

earnest plaza
#

yeah

#

I still don't fully understand it, I don't work with color much

#

hex color is typically two hex digits per color, but 255 is 0xFF, not even one per color

half cradle
#

Yea, I just pick a color wheel, but I also have Aphantasia

#

I think HSL makes the most sense, but that's just me

#

Which I guess is what the switches kinda do. Hmm.

last ruin
#

Z2M: I've set Min rep change on rmsVoltage to 500 and Min rep interval to 60. But I'm still getting reports every minute like this: " type 'attributeReport', cluster 'haElectricalMeasurement', data '{"acFrequency":50040,"activePower":0,"rmsCurrent":0,"rmsVoltage":24052}' from endpoint 2 with groupID 0" . I have the same issue with 2 other devices, all being Develco SPLZB-131. It looks like it ignores the Min rep change but respects Min rep interval. Ideas?

#

I don't care if rmsVoltage goes from 24024 to 24006 😛

junior reef
#

I accidentally purchased a light switch instead of a curtain module (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/MS-104BZ.html instead of https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/MS-108ZR.html) In theory it seems that is should be very similar, I can turn on or off each switch which in turn makes the roller go up and down. However it's not as convenient as native curtain module as there is no calibration, no awareness of the position inside the switch, etc. Is there a way to either flash a different FW somehow or have an intermediate integration/automation that would take a light switch as input and expose a roller instead?

sour shadow
last ruin
#

Oh, ok. Thanks.

#

Changed it to min rep interval 60 and min rep change to 1 and it only reports every 60 seconds...

#

I've read it as min rep interval at 60 will only report every minute if min rep change "has changed". And it behaves like that on my Datek Apex smart plugs. Just not the Develco ones.

sharp kraken
#

Hi everyone, I am new to HA and just have added the first two lights to HA. Both are Lidl/Silvercrest color and white bulbs. I integrated them using zha with a HA SkyConnect. The color temperature slider is off, it is warm somewhere around the middle and cold at the ends of the slider. Setting a color doesn't work at all. I searched the Forum but I can't find anything. Any hint or help would be appreciated.

molten linden
sharp kraken
#

will do, thank you

manic loom
sour shadow
#

It's not the best choice - that model has quality control issues

#

I'd suggest one from Tube, Electrolama, or Slaesh instead

manic loom
#

ZZH seems to be the best(?) but also expensive

ashen bluff
#

If you pay that much might as well get a PoE one

sour shadow
#

You can buy a cheap Sonoff and hope you don't get a broken one.... or just spend the money now and only buy once

manic loom
#

buy cheap buy twice right?

sour shadow
#

Buy Tuya, buy thrice 😛

lofty whale
#

hi Im trying to install HA OS on Promox

#

wrong sorry

carmine hamlet
#

you can delete...

junior reef
#

How does one know if the dongle is fine or has some issues? Most of the time mine sonoff dongle seems to work fine, but every now and then there are problems connecting to curtain modules (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/QS-Zigbee-C03.html). And occasionally light switches need to be pressed multiple times (ZBM). So I'm not sure how to determine where the issues come from

sour shadow
#

That sounds more likely to be interference than a dongle problem

#

Is the dongle on a USB extension cable? Have you checked that your chosen Zigbee channel is clear of WiFi?

ashen bluff
ionic salmon
#

I just want to brag that I managed to add another aqara door sensor to ZigbeeMQTT. Thumb is fragile for 2 days again, but it was worth it.

grim igloo
ionic salmon
grim igloo
#

Do you have a reliable mesh?

#

Multiple repeaters, low interference on the zigbee channel you chose, usb extender on dongle if using one

ionic salmon
#

I was dancing in front of my Sonoff coordinator at some point

grim igloo
#

Gotta rub your belly while doing it too

ionic salmon
#

I gave it the impression I gave up, then it worked

grim igloo
#

Iirc some aqara 1.2 devices don’t love pairing to the coordinator?

#

Not 100% on that

ionic salmon
#

I couldn't say, I think worst thing is that the pairing on the device stops after n seconds. If during that time it didn't get picked up..try again.

#

Then eventually, you hit the pairing at the right time and bam, you're in, perfect signal and all

kindred ridge
#

Hello. i did a new install on an SSD . my skyconnect that i used in my erlier install showed up, did a new network but it doesnt find any device at all, tried ikea and aqara.. the i switched to my conbee stick same result... any ideas?

austere patio
opaque helm
#

and Z2M

#

I got 2 Relay Switches ready and another door sensor to expand mesh network

junior reef
junior reef
austere patio
junior reef
austere patio
#

You need to reflash its firmware

grim igloo
#

Just to pipe in- this has only been seen a handful of times it isn’t a common problem plaguing all of us

#

It’s still crap tho lol

austere patio
#

Yeah, it's pretty rare

grim igloo
#

I’ll switch sides once my p dongle corrupts I’m sure

sour shadow
#

It's more common to see the stick crash, like the CC2531 sticks

#

I know quite a few people, including myself, who have that happen

austere patio
#

The -P? I've only seen that with the -E

sour shadow
#

Aye, the P version

austere patio
#

Huh. How do they manage that? That's 3/3 Sonoff coordinators that have weird glitches/crashes.

sour shadow
#

A few bulbs and the Adaptive Lighting integration seem to be a good way of tripping it

#

And many of their end devices also seem to be ... not that reliable

#

Oh, and I've heard mixed news on some of their routers being well behaved routers... but the sample space there isn't big enough for me to be confident they're bad

violet dagger
#

Meanwhile here I am with my preproduction zzh! working perfectly 😉

sour shadow
#

The one thing that Sonoff got right is the ability to flash without having to do button dances while plugging the stick in

#

My Slaesh stick is ready for when my Sonoff next glitches 😄

brazen robin
#

TL;DR - 3 of 4 Philips Hue Motion detectors report 100% battery. Why?
I have four Philips Hue Motion Detectors. One is an older SML001, purchased May '21, had its batteries replaced Feb '23, is currently reporting 46%. It is using the Quirk: zhaquirks.philips.motion.PhilipsMotion.
3 newer SML003 sensors purchased Apr & May '22 and Mar '23 report battery at 100%. (I'm not sure when/if the sensors purchased in '22 have had their batteries replaced.) But they are using the Quirk: zhaquirks.philips.motion.SignifyMotion and manufacturer by Signify Netherlands B.V.
The sensor are all function properly; just the battery levels cannot be trusted. They all get about the same amount of traffic past them. If the older one which got new batteries three months ago is at 46%, it is safe to assume the others should not be 100%.

#

I'm not sure where to begin trying to troubleshoot this. Can I simply change the SML003's quirk to use the same one the SML001 uses? Is it something that needs to be looked at elsewhere?

mellow geode
#

The quirk doesn't modify battery levels. The SML001 likely drains those batteries very fast, because it keeps switching parents/routers

#

The SML003 ones are probably fine. You can try swapping the "46% batteries" into one of the newer models. They should update after some hours.

brazen robin
#

I can give that a try.

#

What if the quirk isn't "reading" the battery level? Comparing the two quirks, there are more output_clusters in the endpoints of the SML001 compared to the SML003. (Not that I know what that means...)

mellow geode
#

The battery stuff follows Zigbee spec, so it doesn't need to be quirked for those sensors.
If you click on a battery entity of either the new or the old sensors, you'll see a list at the bottom with custom attributes.
You should also see the battery voltage there (and compare that between devices).

brazen robin
#

SML001 says 2.4. The SML003s report 2.9, 2.9, and 3.

mellow geode
#

Yeah, 2.4 volts is a lot lower (but probably still "fine" for those sensors). They all seem to measure voltage correctly.

brazen robin
#

I'll try the battery swap and see what happens.

#

Battery levels did flip-flop between devices. The SML001 is now reporting 100%. The newest SML003 is reporting 18%. Voltages stayed the same (2.4 and 3, respectively.) (Though I should mention the SML001 had rechargeable batteries while the SML003 had original Philips batteries.)

#

Do the SML003s just have better battery life? You mentioned the SML001s keep switching. So, maybe this isn't a real issue after all?

sour shadow
#

Which version of the Sonoff dongle? They've done at least two "Plus" versions

silk vortex
#

Which file contains the zigbee config?

sour shadow
#

Are you using ZHA, Zigbee2MQTT, or deCONZ?

sour shadow
#

That Sonoff is known to have QC issues - you may have one with bad NVRAM

#

Try re-flashing it

#

Yes, failed electronics do tend to be sudden

carmine hamlet
#

If it failed suddenly before, expect it to again. They remember

grim igloo
#

Same magic smoke 💨

austere patio
#

You seemed to get every problem possible happening to you: the MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE error indicates noise, which removing the WiFi network probably fixed, plus also the Sonoff NVRAM corruption issue 😄

sour shadow
#

They're well known to have the NVRAM just fail like that

manic loom
#

i just realized there is no high availability/fail-over option for zigbee/z-wave 😯

#

so I need a high-quality coordinator

sour shadow
#

Tube, Electrolama, or Slaesh all have a well proven track record

#

Of course, buying a spare doesn't hurt...

carmine hamlet
#

Fortunately, it's easy to move to a new coordinator

mellow geode
mellow geode
vivid heart
#

new update... shouldn't have updated 😦

[17:19:59] INFO: Preparing to start...
[17:20:00] INFO: Socat not enabled
[17:20:02] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman-converters/index.js:79
        if (converter.options) {
                      ^
TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'options')
    at Object.addDefinition [as addDeviceDefinition] (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman-converters/index.js:79:23)
    at new ExternalConverters (/app/lib/extension/externalConverters.ts:15:17)
    at new Controller (/app/lib/controller.ts:84:58)
    at start (/app/index.js:106:18)
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how do i roll back or fix this...

sour shadow
#

How are you running Z2M?

vivid heart
#

home assistant

sour shadow
#

Do you have any custom converters?

#

Right... Docker? Add-on?

#

Hammer?

vivid heart
#

yes, one provided by owner

#

bare

sour shadow
#

Bare?

vivid heart
#

bare metal

#

home asisstant os

#

i think

sour shadow
#

I think you don't know what any of those words mean

vivid heart
#

im running on bare metal

#

not in a VM/container

sour shadow
#

You're running Home Assistant OS that way

#

I'm asking how you're running Zigbee2MQTT

vivid heart
#

oh, it's like an addon

sour shadow
#

Then... no idea how you roll those back, if it's even possible

#

However... if you're using any custom converters that's probably your issue

vivid heart
#

clue how to remove them, no clue how i added

#

found it

#

well, it works, except my temp sensors are broken now...

signal widget
#

I'm diving headfirst into building a comprehensive smart home setup using Home Assistant, and I'm seeking some guidance and recommendations from the experienced members of this community.

Is there any reliable guides, for setting up the server and central control displays? Hardware recommendations would be a big plus here.

As for integrations, I've had some prior experience with Alexa Smart Home for lighting (Hue), blinds (Alexa/Schedule-controlled), and audio controllers. Now I want to take it to the next level with Home Assistant. My main goal is to achieve greater customization and more straightforward configuration without sacrificing the "Girlfriend Acceptance Factor" (GAF). Everything needs to work with switches still and not depend on system knowledge to do everyday functions.

Initial research points me toward Zigbee for setup and reliability (and experience with Hue), but I'm open to any direction here.

Apologies if I'm in the wrong channel.

grim igloo
#

sounds like you've come to the right place but not necessarily the right channel

signal widget
#

Thanks @grim igloo ! I'll head there.

foggy niche
#

I’ve done the HA update and now my Zigbee is showing as Failed to setup. I’ve got the SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2 https://dpaste.org/rHnuv. Any ideas please? I was having this issue before but didn’t realize I had to put a usb extension cable on it of which I done and was working fine before the update but now it’s stopped working again!

grim igloo
austere patio
#

I'm going to need debug logs but nothing software-wise could have caused this, nothing changed this release

twin gazelle
#

Has anyone used an ajax or sonoff hub? are they good about updating firmware?

i've been considering getting hub for each company so i can update my firmware since the amount they make available to the public for use through z2m and such is miniscule

austere patio
#

Very few Sonoff sensors are even capable of receiving OTA updates and I think Sonoff published all of theirs. For the most part, Z2M's repository is pretty complete.

ashen condor
#

I just bought the Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle V2. This is my first time working with zigbee and I thought it was plug & play. But I'm getting all kinds of errors. No matter what tutorial or instruction video I follow - I just keep getting errors. Was wondering if anyone could help point me in the right direction

#

My current configuration looks like that

#

and with ezsp I get Error: Reset error: Error: {"sequence":-1} after 10000ms and without I get another timeout

#

note: because it was plug and play - I didn't flash anything, not sure if that's needed after all

ashen bluff
ashen condor
#

Oh

#

What do you recommend I use instead? Or do I need to get a refund on the adapter?

ashen bluff
ashen condor
#

So basically the V1 of this would have worked?

ashen bluff
#

If you mean the P variant then yes as it has a CC2652P chip that uses the zstack driver. The E variant uses the ezsp driver which is experimental.
It seems like sonoff isn't really that popular here. I use the same (P) for now though. If it dies I buy a PoE one

violet dagger
#

There's Dongle-E and Dongle-P, you have the E

ashen condor
#

So if I try Zigbee Home Automation it might work?

violet dagger
#

It should

#

Doesn't really cost you much to try

ashen condor
#

ehh, I uninstalled Zigbee2mqtt

#

But it says it's already configured, when I didn't install it?

molten harness
#

Hey everyone. I was wondering if i could get a hand with a issues i am having. I am running HA on a Lenovo Micro PC using Proxmox with the most up to date software. My Zigbee network is a ZHA running off a SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2 with a 6ft USB extension cable.

The issue I am having is when i add certain devices they add fine but will not stay connected and then drop off the network and never reconnects. They all happen to be Aqara devices. One vibration sensor and 2 motion sensors. Everything else I have seems to be find. Any suggestions?

austere patio
austere patio
molten harness
austere patio
#

How far away are the outlets and the coordinator from the Aqara devices? On the ZHA network visualization, what parents are the Aqara devices picking?

ashen condor
#

ZHA seems to work at first glance

molten harness
#

so the motion sensor is VERY close to the coordinator (maybe 5 feet). it doesn't actually show that it connects to anything on the visualizer. The vibration sensor is definitely the farthest zibee item i have but i bought the 2nd outlet just to help it connect.

full gale
#

I was wondering, are there plans for ZHA to support OTA updates like Z2M does? I got a ZBDongle-E and I am not sure if I fancy the "experimental" support of Z2M 😐

#

I could perform some updates (with ZHA) for the Hue elements I have (not for IKEA though), but wasn't the most comfortable thing to do

austere patio
#

There are. Just no timeline yet 😄

opaque helm
#

i got ITead ZBDongle-E (ordered P-version and they send wrong one), which is running Z2M and my wall switch module TuYa WHD02 fails to get Join Permit as a router. Sensors won't connect to the router no matter how far away they are, they will only connect to dongle (coordinator).
I know tuya is cheap n that but I just want to make it work until I get better one

#

Switch got about ~100 LQI out of 255 and controls in HA are not responsive, can't even turn it on

molten harness
sour shadow
#

Aqara devices need to be paired to a nearby router, if you let them pick they may pick the weakest signal

#

Also try fresh batteries

molten harness
#

i did try fresh batteries. how do i force them to pick the router?

sour shadow
#

There should be an option on the device in ZHA

#

(by device, I mean router device)

molten harness
#

I definitely learn something new but that didn't solve the problem unfortunately.

sour shadow
#

They've disconnected already?

austere patio
molten harness
#

Mmmm... I downloaded the diagnostics and that term was unable to found when searching for it. I even tried searching for "energy" could it be called something else?

#

Oh wait! I was looking at the coordinator

#

"energy_scan": {
"11": 96.64469941013013,
"12": 99.44062726818147,
"13": 99.27573563839312,
"14": 98.21983128611214,
"15": 82.35373987514762,
"16": 55.9836862725909,
"17": 55.9836862725909,
"18": 92.95959997754716,
"19": 87.33047519856483,
"20": 68.14622793558128,
"21": 65.26028270288712,
"22": 46.26944564832987,
"23": 52.75969252664325,
"24": 5.317630506738386,
"25": 59.15797905332195,
"26": 59.15797905332195

austere patio
#

What channel is your network on? I hope not 11 😄

sour shadow
#

Anything other than 24 looks ... "fun"

molten harness
#

Which network? Zigbee or wifi?

austere patio
#

Zigbee. On the main ZHA configuration page you will see a channel number.

molten harness
#

"channel": 15,

sour shadow
#

Could have been worse... just 😄

grim igloo
#

Puddly is that 5 on channel 24 even trustable if channels 23 and 25 are so much higher?

molten harness
#

guess im going to have to google how to move to a different channel?

austere patio
#

The channel migration button is in the current beta. You can also run it directly from your web browser's JS console: #zigbee-archived message

molten harness
grim igloo
#

No I’m asking puddly if it should be questioned

austere patio
#

I would run the auto channel migration in the linked message, it will likely pick 25. But there's really not much else I can suggest if you've tried joining the devices via specific (nearby) routers, changed the batteries, and ensured the sensors aren't moved around after joining.

#

The only other possibility is that your coordinator is actually disconnecting due to VM passthrough issues, so it's not the sensors that go offline, but the coordinator itself. Are you able to control other Zigbee devices when this happens?

carmine hamlet
#

I thought there were devices that would only join on 15, 20, 25

#

meaning that 24 would not be a great choice, regardless of the energy

austere patio
#

There's like one brand (Konke). Some Legrand can only join on 11.

grim igloo
#

That’s my understanding too I still wanted clarity on my question though

austere patio
#

But 24 isn't a good choice because it's overlapping with WiFi channel 11

grim igloo
#

Looks like I’m not gonna get it lol

austere patio
grim igloo
#

I suppose I just don’t understand radio signals enough. I thought channels next to each other would have similar interference or some bleed over or something (side lobes?)

austere patio
#

They do if the signal's bandwidth is wide enough. The energy scan isn't done all at once, it's done channel-by-channel, so it's possible some periodic signal just turned off when 24 was being scanned and turned back on when the radio switched to 25.

grim igloo
#

That would make a lot of sense

austere patio
#

You can just download diagnostics again and compare, it's unlikely you'd see the same thing twice

grim igloo
#

So ultimately it’s good to question and even re run a scan multiple times I’d assume?

molten harness
grim igloo
#

Is there logic for the scan to ‘question’ the validity of a specific output and trigger a rescan?

molten harness
#

oh and they also didnt work when i had this whole set up built on a Pi.

#

so i dont think its a VM passthrough issue.

austere patio
twin gazelle
grim igloo
#

Thx for the clarity

ashen condor
# twin gazelle have you flashed it with the custom firmware?

If I haven't flashed it at all, I haven't flashed it with custom firmware either - so no. I got it working with de Zigbee Home Assistant plugin though. But I think I might have accidentally configured that before doing the zigbee one, so that might be why it failed

#

I'm going to try it out again later

twin gazelle
twin gazelle
full gale
austere patio
#

Nope

sick osprey
#

Hey so i have bought these https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Hama_00176592.html which should be compatible with the Conbee II and the Zigbee integration in HA.. my HA instance finds the device but there are no values or settings i can change

#

does someone have a solution to that? checked google, someone said zigbee2mqtt, but tbh not a fan of this solution

#

ping me please

foggy niche
#

I’ve done the HA update and now my Zigbee is showing as Failed to setup. I’ve got the SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2 https://dpaste.org/2Yc6c Any ideas please? I was having this issue before but didn’t realize I had to put a usb extension cable on it of which I done and was working fine before the update but now it’s stopped working again! @austere patio In response to your previous question. Also it's showing this too https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743144302334443622/1113978725915164693/IMG_0358.png

austere patio
foggy niche
austere patio
#

You likely have a passthrough issue. The debug log shows that the serial port exists but no data is being received from the coordinator over serial

foggy niche
foggy niche
untold niche
#

I have an Aqara Vibrationsensor in my mailbox, howeverer whenever it gets windy it gets triggered aswell.
Is there any solution to this?

jade cargo
#

I use a door sensor

bold nymph
#

Hello, if I have two zigbee devices (A and B), and I want to add a new repeater device in between (C),
do I just pair it and it will automatically rearrange the mesh network? or do I have to unpair unpair device B, pair device C in its place, then re pair device B?

here's a bad sketch just to better explain https://prnt.sc/RIE2OrcNo5v5

untold niche
bold nymph
untold niche
#

I have a sensor in my mailbox and added a smartplug much later, and the smartplug now acts as a repeater automatically

grim igloo
bold nymph
grim igloo
#

Ah really?

#

Needs more squiggly lines

candid blaze
#

Guys, I try to migrate zigbee radio from the sonoff wifi bridge to usb stick. I went through the migration provess in the config section. But nothing seems to be connected. Please help

#

Not sure what I did wrong

#

In integrations page it still says:
socket://192.168.100.155:8888
Zigbee Home Automation

#

I'm not sure if that's of any relevance

austere patio
arctic fable
#

Plugged in a SkyConnect USB stick to HA Blue and don't see it in devices. I do see in Zigbee Controller one device: EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis
by ZHA Is that related?

grim igloo
#

Yes that’s what it shows up as in logs iirc

novel cloud
#

Is it possible to get Coordinator is disconnected, cannot send request even when it's actually connected?!

austere patio
#

No

novel cloud
#

I have had this thing on USB 2.0 extender in the same spot for years and I am suddenly experiencing a massive delay in commands.

#

And seeing that

austere patio
#

It may be physically connected but if it crashes (i.e. stops responding to commands) and the library communicating with it tries to re-establish the connection, this is a message you'd see

novel cloud
austere patio
#

Similarly if the serial port disappears

novel cloud
#

I have 2 different sonoff dongles 3.0

austere patio
#

MAC_BAD_STATE very much sounds like a firmware crash

novel cloud
#

Znp

#

Suddenly the firmware on them are both messed up?

#

I switched to my backup and had the same issue

austere patio
#

Not messed up, just crashing. Unplugging it and plugging it back in should resolve it. What firmware is it running and have you tried upgrading it?

novel cloud
#

Lol I tried unplugging

#

Rebooting

#

Full host reboot

#

Core reboot

#

Reloading

#

CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20220219)
by Texas Instruments

austere patio
#

Is this the firmware that came with it?

novel cloud
#

Nope

#

I updated it awhile back

#

But it's not latest I know

#

I'm running close to latest at my house with the same dongle. This is another house running an older version experiencing this.

grim igloo
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i think that's the latest stable from a while back it looks familiar. there was a newer one that was giving people issues with big meshes so iirc people were holding off

novel cloud
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Yeah this is 133 devices

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50-60 are likely repeaters

austere patio
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I would try re-flashing that version of the firmware nonetheless

novel cloud
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My worst fear is trying to explain remotely

austere patio
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It will clear NVRAM and possibly resolve your problem

novel cloud
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How to do this

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Lol

austere patio
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The Sonoff has a software-controllable bootloader pin, you can do it remotely

grim igloo
novel cloud
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Wait what

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Where's the script

grim igloo
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it's like 5min of prep work and a few seconds to flash

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i removed the stick and plugged into a windows pc and did it that way

novel cloud
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Can I flash firmware with this or just reset.

grim igloo
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flash fw

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Flash Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus With Python For Use In Home Assistant the title of the video i just linked lol

novel cloud
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Lol I have it in pip mode

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So I didn't read the title it's playing in the background

grim igloo
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im glad picture in picture is making a comeback

novel cloud
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I use it all the time on mobile

grim igloo
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ya i started doing that w/ plex

novel cloud
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I'm trying

python cc2538-bsl.py -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -e -v -w --bootloader-sonoff-usb stickfirmware.hex
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And getting

 File "/root/cc2538-bsl.py", line 72
    <title>cc2538-bsl/cc2538-bsl.py at master · JelmerT/cc2538-bsl · GitHub</title>
                                              ^
SyntaxError: invalid character '·' (U+00B7)
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I renamed the firmware to that for ease of typing

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I'm running this on the root ssh addon

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Installed all the stuff the video said

grim igloo
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uhh

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you mean on haos?

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no idea dude i used windows like i said above lol..

novel cloud
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Yeah haos

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Hoping puddly knows lol

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I tried the full serial Id as well

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Instead of /dev/ttyUSB1

austere patio
grim igloo
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lmao

novel cloud
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Lols

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Opening port /dev/ttyUSB1, baud 500000
Reading data from stickfirmware.hex
Your firmware looks like an Intel Hex file
Connecting to target...
CC1350 PG2.0 (7x7mm): 352KB Flash, 20KB SRAM, CCFG.BL_CONFIG at 0x00057FD8
Primary IEEE Address: 00:12:4B:00:25:8B:83:91
    Performing mass erase
Erasing all main bank flash sectors
    Erase done
Writing 360448 bytes starting at address 0x00000000
ERROR: Received packet checksum error
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I think the integration is Still running lol

austere patio
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Yeah, you probably want to disable the integration

novel cloud
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Tadah

austere patio
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But it managed to erase the firmware before being interrupted so I hope your stick isn't bricked

novel cloud
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Opening port /dev/ttyUSB1, baud 500000
Reading data from stickfirmware.hex
Your firmware looks like an Intel Hex file
Connecting to target...
CC1350 PG2.0 (7x7mm): 352KB Flash, 20KB SRAM, CCFG.BL_CONFIG at 0x00057FD8
Primary IEEE Address: 00:12:4B:00:25:8B:83:91
    Performing mass erase
Erasing all main bank flash sectors
    Erase done
Writing 360448 bytes starting at address 0x00000000
Write 104 bytes at 0x00057F988
    Write done
Verifying by comparing CRC32 calculations.
    Verified (match: 0xe83aa727)
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Hope not

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Lol

austere patio
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That looks fine. Once you re-enable ZHA it will restore the network.

novel cloud
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Yep re-enabled

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Waiting patiently

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This has been an issue for 3 days

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But I haven't had any time

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Still problems.

austere patio
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Those are normal if you have unresponsive devices

novel cloud
austere patio
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Enable debug logging, the tracebacks alone have no context

novel cloud
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Getting the logs remotely is a challenge.

austere patio
novel cloud
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how can i send it to you

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it is 33mb

austere patio
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ZIP it and you can PM it

novel cloud
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done

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this has been happening all the way back at the beginning of the log at 12 so i figured showing the whole thing would be helpful. I only reset nvram when i did it here an hour ago

austere patio
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Most of your requests are failing due to MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE, so the radio is refusing to transmit because there is way too much noise. Is your Sonoff stick on a USB extension cable and away from interference sources?

Also, We were disconnected from /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_...: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?). Do you have any other integration running that could be accessing the same serial port?

novel cloud
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No other integration

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It's on a super long extension was in the same spot for 2 years

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Suddenly massive issues I moved it everywhere in the room

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Turned the antenna and Everything lol

austere patio
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The radio firmware doesn't lie, something in your environment changed and almost every request you try to send fails because of noise

novel cloud
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Yeah I figured. But I just don't know what.

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May need to move rooms completely

rapid dawnBOT
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@austere patio I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
novel cloud
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What should I change it to?

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Would devices change too?

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And I need the beta for that don't I?

austere patio
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If you upgrade to the beta, there's a button. You can also run the code in your browser's JS console to do the same thing if you want to stay on stable (#zigbee-archived message).

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The above code will auto detect the best channel, likely 20. Assuming some of the channel change broadcasts make it out, most of your routers should migrate. And most of your end devices.

novel cloud
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Is it possible to migrate back to 15

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If the network dies

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Somehow

austere patio
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Change "auto" to 15 and hopefully the devices that did migrate to the new channel will migrate back

novel cloud
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Sounds good thank you will try that

austere patio
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I use "most" because you will likely have to re-join some devices, especially sensors. Channel changing isn't as simple as WiFi.

novel cloud
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Meaning aqara sensors lol?

austere patio
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Some migrate, some don't 🤷‍♂️

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Wait an hour and see

dusky monolith
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Sending again from #hardware-archived because I was asked to post it here. I have a SkyConnect and it stopped working recently. It shows available in Devices but when you try to use any device thye're just offline. I rebooted and restarted, unplugged replugged. I even tried the firmware flasher which may have been a poor idea. But it also shows an error:

<FirmwareImageType.NCP_UART_HW: 'ncp-uart-hw'>, baudrate=None)
2023-06-03 11:11:49 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[163] INFO Probing ApplicationType.GECKO_BOOTLOADER at 115200 baud
2023-06-03 11:11:51 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[163] INFO Probing ApplicationType.EZSP at 115200 baud
2023-06-03 11:11:54 core-silabs-flasher bellows.uart[163] ERROR Lost serial connection: SerialException('device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)')
2023-06-03 11:11:54 core-silabs-flasher bellows.ezsp[163] INFO NCP entered failed state. No application handler registered, ignoring...

I've shut down the Zigbee addon and any other possible addons that'd be using the SkyConnect before attempting this. What can I do or is there a better place to ask? It shows up in Home Assistant but doesn't seem to function anymore.

austere patio
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device disconnected or multiple access on port makes it sound like something else is accessing the SkyConnect. Do you have the Silicon Labs multiprotocol addon running as well?

novel cloud
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Should I see the channel change immediately in the UI?

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After using the browser console

austere patio
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Reload the page

novel cloud
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Still 15

novel cloud
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Guess I need to upgrade to beta

novel cloud
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Went to the beta. Did auto.. it was still 15.. rebooted. Cleared cache. Still 15.

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Try 20. It never finishes with the message it finished the loading wheel just stops

novel cloud
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I can't even form a new network? "Config flow error" "Erorr" is all I get.

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Does this get any better lol? Practically getting jammed on channel 15. Even binded devices don't work. So it's definitely something up in the rf environment maybe the neighbors jamming me with some new thing they got who knows.

crude otter
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so i use ZHA in my HA setup, but i have some zigbee devices in the garage that are very unreliable, due to the distance from the co-ordinator. I know about using mains powered devices as repeaters etc, but its still not good enough.

I have been told you can not 'extend' or 'repeat' a zigbee network over wifi or ethernet etc, but...

Is it possible for me to use a Zigbee to Ethernet bridge (I already own one i have never used) and run it in Z2M.. so i would essentially have 2 zigbee networks, but have both working in HA at the same time?

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in short, can i run Z2M and ZHA on one Home Assistant instance?

crude otter
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or i guess i could just use a Zigbee bridge thing.. be it ethernet or wifi..

covert ibex
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I’m looking to buy the sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb. But I am wondering if it would cover the whole house. I have a 2 story house and my HA server is upstairs in a corner.

stuck ferry
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Unknown error occurred - Yellow

safe crater
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Hello,
I just bought an aquara blind driver E1. But if I raise or lower my blind the position in my Zigbee2mqtt doesn't update. I always have to manualy update it. However I want it to update automaticly, so that I can also use it in a dashboard and in automations.
Does anyone know how I can set fixed update intervalls or something else that would fix this problem.
Thanks for your help!

twin gazelle
twin gazelle
crude otter
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my sonoff does not cover my whole house/property

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which is why i have just had to deploy a 'zigbee bridge' in the garage

covert ibex
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Okay perfect thank you guys

rapid dawnBOT
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@covert ibex Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

patent moss
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I have a ZigBee LED where I have set Startupcurrentlevelconfiguration = 254 so that the LED turns on with 100% brightness instead of the brightness it had before it got turned off. However, I'm encountering an issue with Home Assistant not properly updating the light level on the UI when turning on the LED. It still believes the light is at its old value instead of recognizing it as being at 100% brightness. The LED itself follows the configuration and turns on at 100% brightness. I'm using the ZHA integration. Is there a way to force Home Assistant to retrieve the current state of the LED accurately? I saw people using zigbee2mqtt solve this issue by implementing a get state command or something along those lines. does ZHA have something similar?

mellow geode
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That should update the lights brightness

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ZHA doesn’t really handle that attribute when setting state. It should probably do this, but the 'light handling' is already somewhat complex

patent moss
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calling zha_toolkit.attr_read on current_level works thanks a lot!

scarlet haven
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Anybody running into IKEA Fyrtur devices suddenly showing up with >100% battery?

lime goblet
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Why is Channel 26 not an option for ZHA? Is it possible to use Channel 26?

dusky monolith
austere patio
clever cedar
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Hello guys, It's me again...

I have 52 Zigbee devices in my apartment (concrete wall building), out of which 25 of them have an LQI (Link Quality Indicator) of 100 or higher. Only one of them has the highest LQI of 200, despite many other devices being practically centimeters away from the coordinator. I have taken care to install multiple repeaters in each room and I am using channel 11 (according to zigpy's measurements, it was the least used channel).

My question is, should I try using the default channel to see if it improves my network? (I understand that some devices don't work well on other channels.)

I'm very frustrated because some devices disconnect or lights suddenly turn on by themselves, etc.

Is there any way to re-pair all my devices without losing the entities in HomeAssistant?

neat wadi
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hello everyone,
i am trying to solve a problem, i have a couple Zigbee devices i want to connect to my HA, the problem is here, i have HA docker running on my home server which happens to be amc mini, so plugging in the Conbee II dongle i couldn't map it to the docker container ( if you know how of it's posible please let me know) i also have w Zigbee hub that i can connect to tuya via wifi. what are my solutions here? can i connect the hub to HA via wifi ? i can't see the devices on the HUB using the tuya integration. please help ?

astral seal
neat wadi
astral seal
neat wadi
astral seal
hard spear
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Anyone connected ikuu switches into home assistant and/or Philips hue

astral seal
hard spear
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This morning I was trying to set it up with the electrician but I think I need to add it as an accessory not a light

grim igloo
half cradle
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You remove the hue bulbs from hue, then you can pare them with home assistant/zigbee

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I had about 16 hue bulbs from many years ago, made it a no brainer to go zigbee and start my mesh pretty strong

grim igloo
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Well you have to be careful. First gen hue bulbs will fuck up your mesh unless they’re not routing traffic just used as child devices iirc

clever cedar
molten linden
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you can re-pair devices without losing your entities, just do not delete them, and enable pairing/joins and reset the device to re-join it.

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LQI is not too important - if it works it works, don't go crazy chasing the numbers. the differenct radio chipsets do report it differently.

clever cedar
molten linden
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beta has chanel change button built in.

clever cedar
molten linden
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but yes even if you want to change the channel

clever cedar
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Changing the channel then putting every device in pairing mode and then clicking in "re configure device" right?

dawn holly
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Is it possible for a room to be zigbee cursed or is it just me 🙂

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I generally have had little to no problem with my zigbee devices with one exception. I have one zigbee lightbulb in my bathroom and an automation that runs based off a motion sensor in there. It was so hit or miss sometimes and eventually I chalked it up to a crappy cheap sensor, so I shelled out for more and a buttload of shipping to get a samotech. That worked flawlessly. For like a day... Now I'm looking at the device and I'm seeing it has a "Motion" which is stuck on Detected and an "Opening" stuck on closed - I've no idea what this opening sensor is reporting. Thoughts? Maybe new batteries (though reporting 100%) and re-pairing? I already re paired this guy once doday and it didn't seem to do anything

clever cedar
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same here

dawn holly
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it's just really hair to diagnose if it is something on the HA side of things or my zigbee network

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It sometimes seems like zigbee isn't updated enough or something - the listening side of things seems slow. I also have this weird issue that's so bizard that I don't even know where to start when troubleshooting it, but it makes me thing there is something going to sleep and not updating enough - I have a zigbee click, double click, and long hold button. Sometimes randomly it won't do anything. I'll open up home assistant on my phone, go to the automation and be looking at the automation page, click the button and suddenly it works fine... wut?

dawn holly
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I think the issue is that I really only have one router - one smart plug - and the motion sensor seemed to want to jump onto that - I think the main's power switch keeps getting turned off to that and the mesh doesn't get remade well enough. Buying a few more smart plugs to fix that 🙂

astral seal
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Yeah in my personal experience distributing routing devices across the house resolves a lot of problems. There are a lot of end devices that don't want to be connected directly to the coordinator even if you'd think it was the best option, plus one of the keys to maintaining a good mesh with plenty of redundancy is making sure that your routing devices don't lose power if you can help it.

clever cedar
carmine hamlet
grim igloo
frigid sky
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hello

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I'm having some issues with a new zigbee device. It's a juno/abl/samsung thin recessed wafer light. I can get it to connect (although zha thinks it is a full color light not just a tunable white light). I can send cluster commands and it performs the requested command (eg brightness, color temp) correctly, however I get timeout errors in the logs, like it isn't responding back to zha and I'm not sure how to troubleshoot it further

uneven ruin
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did something change in z2m's custom device setup? I've been running one for over a year and now the bulbs show up as unsupported

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its been happening for a while, but finally annoyed me enough to ask

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OK i finally get off my butt and ask, and while restarting to get a clean log they work now

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I suppose thats the power of asking

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thanks 🙂

stray wolf
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i bought an aqara door and window sensor. the box says aqara hub is required. i have a zigbee adapter and have added aqara cubes to my HAS instance previously. where do i go to add the door and window sensor?

austere patio
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Same place you went to add the cube, the sensors don't require anything different

stray wolf
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i don't remember where it was >_>

austere patio
old kernel
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before i get in too deep, anyone aware of an issue with ZHA on recent builds having lots of delays/connection failures? I've had a setup that was working fine for the last 6 months and about a week ago just went belly up, now every request if it ever completes it's like a multiple minute delay

austere patio
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How recent is "recent"? Beta or stable?

old kernel
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stable. installed 2023.4.4 about 2 weeks ago and 2023.5.4 2 days ago. sonoff stick

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i'm considering rolling back to 2023.3.6 to see if that is any different, but could do a little diagnosis work first if it makes sense

austere patio
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Which Sonoff stick?

old kernel
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it says zigbee 3.0 usb dongle plus

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zbdongle-p

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2023-06-05 18:20:31.665 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Previously delayed request is now running, delayed by 926.45s
2023-06-05 18:20:31.668 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Previously delayed request is now running, delayed by 925.83s
2023-06-05 18:20:31.670 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.cluster_handlers] [0xCC86:1:0x0020]: command failed: 'fast_poll_stop' args: '()' kwargs '{}' exception: 'Coordinator is disconnected, cannot send request'

austere patio
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Nothing related to the stick has been changed in many months but if you can replicate some regression (i.e. it goes away when you downgrade and comes back when you upgrade), please let me know

old kernel
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looks similar to the issues dan1002 mentioned a couple of days ago, but who knows if actually related

austere patio
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Coordinator is disconnected, cannot send request means the stick is either disconnecting, or it fails to respond to a ping and ZHA considers it dead, reconnecting

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"Previously delayed request is now running, delayed by 926.45s" is also unusual. Is MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE in your logs?

old kernel
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yeah

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2023-06-05 18:21:39.102 DEBUG (Thread-10) [aiosqlite] operation functools.partial(<built-in method execute of sqlite3.Connection object at 0x7fa136a51140>, 'UPDATE devices_v11\n SET last_seen=:ts\n WHERE ieee=:ieee AND :ts - last_seen > :min_last_seen_delta', {'ts': 1686003691.210924, 'ieee': 04💿15:ff:fe:38:2c:be, 'min_last_seen_delta': 30.0}) completed
2023-06-05 18:21:39.112 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.api] Received command: AF.DataRequestSrcRtg.Rsp(Status=<Status.SUCCESS: 0>)
2023-06-05 18:21:39.115 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.api] Received command: AF.DataConfirm.Callback(Status=<Status.MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE: 225>, Endpoint=1, TSN=12)
2023-06-05 18:21:39.128 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.api] Sending request: AF.DataRequestSrcRtg.Req(DstAddr=0x1454, DstEndpoint=3, SrcEndpoint=1, ClusterId=8, TSN=20, Options=<TransmitOptions.SUPPRESS_ROUTE_DISC_NETWORK: 32>, Radius=0, SourceRoute=[0xFF3A], Data=b'\x00\x14\x00\x00\x00')

austere patio
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Requests are failing (and being retried) because you have interference. This is 100% handled by the firmware and not something ZHA can configure or control, it just happens unfortunately. See if you can reposition the coordinator.

old kernel
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okay. strange that it worked perfectly for months before blowing up. i've got it on a 3 meter usb extension, could try somewhere else in the room

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is there a way to scan for interference or do i need to just guess and hope?

austere patio
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Download diagnostic for the ZHA integration, it'll be in the JSON (energy_scan)

old kernel
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"11": 36.86274509803921,
"12": 28.235294117647058,
"13": 41.1764705882353,
"14": 36.86274509803921,
"15": 55.68627450980392,
"16": 28.235294117647058,
"17": 35.68627450980392,
"18": 80.0,
"19": 48.23529411764706,
"20": 42.745098039215684,
"21": 71.37254901960785,
"22": 82.74509803921569,
"23": 87.05882352941177,
"24": 65.49019607843137,
"25": 45.490196078431374,
"26": 42.745098039215684

austere patio
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What channel is your network on?

old kernel
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15 it looks like

austere patio
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Channel 20 is a little better but your environment seems somewhat noisy to begin with. Something must have changed (WiFi router automatically switched channels, new neighbors, mesh system, new SSD, etc.)

old kernel
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we're a few thousand feet from our nearest neighbors, and i think all the routers are set to be locked down on wifi channels but i can do some more checking to confirm that. i'll have to look again what ch15 relates to on the wifi numbers

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thanks!

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i notice this in the config also:
Extended PAN ID: dd:dd:dd:dd:dd:dd:dd:dd

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anything to be worried about there?

austere patio
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Seems like you previously used Z2M, because that's what it hardcodes the EPID to

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As long as you don't start a new Z2M network nearby there's nothing to worry about

old kernel
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ah, yeah i started with that and 1/3rd of my devices didn't work at all

uneven ruin
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thats weird

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My house is an RF nightmare though, not sure whats in the walls but zigbee, zwave, wifi had to go hardcore on routers and tuning

old kernel
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i suppose the other thing that changed is a switch to a newer version of haos / linux kernel. not even sure that's something i could attempt a rollback of

gritty bay
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Is anyone aware of a way to update the firmware on a Sonoff S31 ZB plug?

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I'm dealing with an issue where these new Aqara E1 sensors I got just won't work with my S31 routers after a few hours and wanted to see if there was a firmware update that could fix this before I try replacing them

molten linden
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A lot of sonoff devices don’t even have an OTA cluster to handle updates so check that it has that cluster first

gritty bay
grim igloo
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Rip 🪦

molten linden
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Yep you have one of the “Perfect” sonoff devices that got the fw perfectly right the first time

grim igloo
molten linden
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yes if it supports fw updates over the air.... but sonoff didn't include it as it was "perfect" as is

grim igloo
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Oh I misunderstood the sarcasm and took it as this one was special and actually had it lol

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Lost in translation from moose 🫎 country smile

gritty bay
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Ugh

molten linden
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think it's joke from when they first launched some of their zigbee devices.

gritty bay
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I'm gonna need to replace all 8 of mine. They will not work with my Aqara sensors

molten linden
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check ptvo

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can't remember exactly but recall seeing they put out a fw for one of the sonoff devices

grim igloo
half cradle
gritty bay
# grim igloo How did you confirm this?

I don't know if confirmed is the word as I'm not knowledgeable enough of ZB to say I've done everything I can. But any sensor that is paired with one of my Sonoff S31 plugs works for about an hour or two and then just stops talking. Eventually it goes fine after 24 hours.

This is what it looks like when I first pair them.
https://imgur.com/a/tIRHZI9

Then after a few hours they just stop talking and it looks like this. Only three sensors that stay talking to my repeaters are 3 Linking sensors.
https://imgur.com/a/mk6u4OF

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I've repaired all my routerrs and then re paired all my sensors to routers they are closest to with no luck

half cradle
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Buy the innr plugs. See that fixes it. Solved my issue with sonoff plugs

gritty bay
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Oh I found them. Man they are even more than the Sengled ones I was suggested to buy

clever cedar
half cradle
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They are quality though

gritty bay
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Are they ZB 3.0?

grim igloo
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as far as your reasoning above for them not working i understand where you're coming from but the z2m map isnt a perfect representation. i'm not the guy to help but if you can post some logs someone else might be able to help

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in my experience the z2m logs are pretty human readable tho

half cradle
grim igloo
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those are 10 amp and no power monitoring and more expensive

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and 100% wouldnt fit two in one outlet (bulky in all the wrong places)

half cradle
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all fair

grim igloo
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you bought those cuz tinkerer suggested them although he's usually referring to the UK variant or maybe eu idk

gritty bay
half cradle
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I was feeling spendy

gritty bay
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I'll have to look into what the look for in the logs

half cradle
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they do work REALLY well,

grim igloo
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i personally use and suggest and prefer sonoff s31 wifi plugs (flashed to esphome) with energy monitoring because to me it doesnt make sense to flood your zigbee mesh with energy monitoring data when 2.4ghz is sitting there ready to be abused

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but i understand you wanting them for repeaters

half cradle
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I have heard great things about third reality

grim igloo
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my hue bulbs repeat well so i dont buy stuff "just to repeat"

gritty bay
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I don't have smart bulbs and I need repeaters

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Pretty decent size house

grim igloo
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sucks 😛

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i bet your issue is actually interference

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and the plugs are just a symptom

gritty bay
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From what?

grim igloo
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everything

#

have you done an energy scan?

gritty bay
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No, tell me more please

grim igloo
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there's a few guides out there for how to do that inside haos

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otherwise you'll have to remove your stick but then you're scanning wherever you move the stick to

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what coordinator do you have and if it's a usb stick is it on a usb extension cable?

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that shows overlap with wifi 2.4ghz channels. there is also bluetooth and other shit all in the same spectrum so choosing the correct channel and limiting interference wherever possible is pretty necessary

gritty bay
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Thank you for the link. I run everything in docker, is is possible to run the scan from docker or just str8 linux?

I have this coordinator Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! (zzh!) and it's on a 6 foot extension cable from my server to this https://imgur.com/aLbgzZQ

grim igloo
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that sticker on the door hinge would bug me

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otherwise it looks like you've done your due diligence with the placement of it

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i guess you need to kill z2m first so it's not using the stick

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sorry i havent actually had to do it. i did a wifi scan and chose my channel that way before learning about the zigbee channel scan and my shit works so im not re-pairing all my stuff even if there was a better channel lol

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i chose channel 25 then placed my channel 11 2.4ghz AP furthest away from the zigbee coordinator

gritty bay
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i chose channel 25 as well as my AP's are on channel 1 and 6

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running the scan now though

grim igloo
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if you do end up needing to change channel make sure to also change network key, and panID/extendedPanID

gritty bay
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hmm, seems like this network scan just keeps running until you kill it?

grim igloo
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not sure sorry

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z2m stupidly uses a static network key, pan id, and extended pan id by default across all installs

gritty bay
grim igloo
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do you live in the woods?

gritty bay
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no

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have about a half acre property

grim igloo
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i would've picked 25 too

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so now i'd focus on logs

gritty bay
half cradle
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I live in the woods, Verizon doesn't even get cell reception here. like not one bar, at all. never bothered scannin, like @grim igloo it just works, so I leave it. I do force devices onto 5ghz when possible

grim igloo
gritty bay
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got it

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well i have some alternate plugs coming tomorrow that I'm going to test. I've read a decent amount of people have had issues with the Aqara sensors paired with Sonoff S31 plugs

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shouldn't take long of me to tell since the sensors stop working about 2-3 hours after I pair them currently

grim igloo
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i have a sonoff usb dongle but wont be buying any of their other zigbee stuff. i do like their sonoff s31 wifi plugs flashed to esphome though. they've been flawless

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iirc usually people have issues with their end devices

gritty bay
grim igloo
half cradle
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just curious

gritty bay
grim igloo
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cuz nabucasa owns esphome and the integration feels more seamless and the configuration seems more sane and it just sounds cooler

grim igloo
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it's worth staring and comparing imo

gritty bay
grim igloo
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not a fan myself

gritty bay
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some love it, some hate it

grim igloo
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it's a hammer that turns everything into a nail and is only one step away from straight up coding with "payloads" and creating your own loops

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hard pass lol

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the "flow" part of it is cool but ultimately the home assistant traces are very similar

gritty bay
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I couldn't hate coding more but I'm fine using NR. The visual representations really help me come up with interesting ideas. But i get it. To each their own

half cradle
gritty bay
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i just need to solve this damn sensor issue so I can starting using some HVAC automations which is why i bought these sensors in the first place haha

grim igloo
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nah zha does some weird stuff compared to z2m imo

astral seal
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Aqara devices are supposedly known for acting up with non-aqara routers and coordinators, but i haven't observed that with any of mine. I have a couple of their contact sensors, a few buttons, motion sensor, and the damn TVOC. That one I have problems with but that's firmware related.

grim igloo
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i was helping a guy the other day and he was sharing screen and the way zha worked creating zigbee groups compared to z2m felt archaic

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and z2m button presses instead of zha events feels much better too

grim igloo
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aqara end devices (zigbee 1.2) are known to not want to migrate to better routers and 'stick' to certain ones

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i have a bunch of them all working fine using hue bulbs as routers - i just made sure to join them in their final destination and paired to closest bulb

astral seal
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So the reason I haven't had those problems is because my Zigbee network is stable and people are misattributing the cause.

grim igloo
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yeah it's almost always interference

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or it's some low quality chinese shit not following spec

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or some low quality chinese shit blackholing routes

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or some low quality chinese shit with hardware failure

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sometimes it's a bug tho

iron flare
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Hi, i use I use the SONOFF 3.0 USB Dongle Plus with CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20221226 in HAOS. And get these errors after updating: https://i.imgur.com/jJWGbvm.png

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It breaks after almost every HAOS update, then i have to reflash it and it if works restore a backup..

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Sometimes it just dies and i have to buy a new one..

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At this point i got a stash of them.. but im kinda done with the device and im looking for an alternative.

bold nymph
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If I pair a Zigbee device then change its location, does it automatically adapt with the mesh and finds the best route? Or do I have to unpair it then pair it back again?

noble marlin
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Possibly/probably off topic, but does the SkyConnect have a way to scan what Zigbee networks it can see and their strength?

(I want to know if my UK smart-meter reaches it up to the flat, and i wondered if SC could be a way to do that before i buy a unit to connect).

bold fiber
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any painfree means to get this zigbee gateway to work with HA, currently only using it with Tuya

old kernel
tidal dove
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Hi everyone, I'm attempting to connect an Aquara Vibration sensor. I was able to pair it but I cannot see any values (all say N/A in Zigbee2MQTT). Its very close to the Zigbee Router (Sonoff 3.0 Stick).

I also have a Tuya Smart Plug Connected which works perfectly

Any idea what could be the issue?

heady kayak
noble marlin
heady kayak
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ahhh

clever cedar
austere patio
noble marlin
half cradle
bold nymph
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does zigbee get affected by IR signal? or just wifi?

austere patio
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No, IR is a much higher frequency. Zigbee is 2.4GHz. Though if your IR bridge/receiver communicates over WiFi, it may have an impact.

bold nymph
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Great, no I asked because I might place it near an AC

austere patio
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The motor in the AC may interfere

manic loom
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Recommendations for a zigbee outdoor door bell/switch?

old kernel
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after restoring back to latest stable i'll try migrating back to the conbee, see if i can really screw things up

astral seal
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I have an automation set up that takes a camera snapshot and pushes it with a Telegram notification, flashes the porch light to confirm to the person outside that it did something, and play a sound over my Google speakers.

dry shadow
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Does anyone know of a zigbee light sensor. I have the lights turning on and off based on an offset and sunrise/sunset. But...if there is a storm and it gets dark, I would like to flick on lights.

violet dagger
dry shadow
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Nice! I didn't see it on Amazon. That looks Perfect for what I want to do.

earnest plaza
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Using zha, anyone else have the minor UI nit where the ... dialog stays open when selecting "manage zigbee device", with a z-index higher than the popup on desktop?

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pictured:

old kernel
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ZHA: Is there a way to extract the json backup data from a home assistant full backup file? seems like my migration blew up, and the backup files i have aren't working either...

austere patio
old kernel
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Well, I wanted to try migrating from the ZNP sonoff radio back to my conbee radio

austere patio
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Right. Did that fail?

old kernel
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it appears to have failed. i ran a backup from the conbee after it completed and the backup looks like the stick is empty

austere patio
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What do you mean by the last part?

old kernel
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though i seem to have been able to get a backup a took yesterday to restore to the znp. i tried running a backup again from that, and it took 14 minutes to take the backup, but looks the same as what i uploaded to it

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if i go to the network settings page and download a backup it gives me a json

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when i do backup from the conbee some of the things are there, but this section is empty:
"key_table": [],
"children": [],
"nwk_addresses": {},
"stack_specific": {},
"metadata": {
"deconz": {
"version": 644351744
}
},

austere patio
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That's normal and totally fine

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Do devices work?

old kernel
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no

austere patio
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Can you capture some debug logs and send them over?

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Do you receive sensor updates?

old kernel
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i don't have any standalone sensors

austere patio
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The Conbee is more sensitive than your Sonoff stick when it comes to interference. If the former was failing with channel access failures, the Conbee definitely will be too.

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So I suspect you'll see the exact same MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE status codes

old kernel
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on the sonoff i was also seeing coordinator disconnected errors, which made me think the stick might be failing

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energy scan from the conbee:

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"11": 52.94117647058823,
"12": 54.11764705882353,
"13": 49.411764705882355,
"14": 45.88235294117647,
"15": 47.05882352941177,
"16": 25.88235294117647,
"17": 47.05882352941177,
"18": 37.64705882352941,
"19": 34.11764705882353,
"20": 43.529411764705884,
"21": 58.8235294117647,
"22": 65.88235294117646,
"23": 80.0,
"24": 64.70588235294117,
"25": 36.470588235294116,
"26": 61.1764705882353

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(if the energy scan is actually generated when i request it, maybe it isn't)

austere patio
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Grab the debug logs of it failing to control devices, those will be much more useful

old kernel
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how much log is useful to grab? it is generating hundreds, maybe thousands of lines of log

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tons of TXStatus.NWK_ROUTE_DISCOVERY_FAILED

austere patio
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That's fine

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You can ZIP the whole log

sinful swift
old kernel
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so just run it for a while then tell it to stop and it'll generate a file, zip/upload that?

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I do see MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE here too, yeah

austere patio
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The serial port is disconnected most of the time

old kernel
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is that normal?

austere patio
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No 😄

old kernel
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🙂

austere patio
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Did you restart/reload ZHA in this debug log session?

old kernel
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not after turning on debug log

austere patio
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And this is the full, unfiltered log?

old kernel
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I just zipped what it spit out when i turned debug off

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i didn't let it run all that long this time. could try longer

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i wonder if there's a bug in the hassio USB controller layer or something

austere patio
old kernel
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as in: enable debug log in config, restart home assistant, let it run for 10 minutes, grab the home-assistant.log file?

austere patio
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Yep

old kernel
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sure thing

austere patio
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After everything is running, try controlling some devices as well

old kernel
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still says it is starting up ZHA 🙂

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i have a slow CPU so running lots of debug logging can make it super not quick

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nothing has responded yet, but last time it eventually ran some of the requests i had made 5-10 minutes later...

bold nymph
old kernel
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mini split ACs have motors

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So puddly: I ended up giving up and starting over

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only 45 devices

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🙂

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moved my wifi networks from 11 to 1 and reset the sonoff with a new new network

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"energy_scan": {
"11": 27.058823529411764,
"12": 68.23529411764706,
"13": 80.0,
"14": 69.80392156862744,
"15": 49.80392156862745,
"16": 29.80392156862745,
"17": 35.68627450980392,
"18": 22.745098039215687,
"19": 12.549019607843137,
"20": 1.1764705882352942,
"21": 8.235294117647058,
"22": 0.0,
"23": 21.176470588235293,
"24": 2.7450980392156863,
"25": 3.9215686274509802,
"26": 20.0

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zha picked channel 20

bold nymph
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I’m trying to set up eero coordinator, I checked the wifi channels and my home’s wifi seems to be limited to not go above channel 8, so channel 11 is totally empty (except some small signals from neighboring Wi-Fis)

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So the best zigbee channels would be 22-26?

forest idol
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What I did test already is to start the install from scratch, which does work. Only when I reinstall and load the backup from the old install I get the error. I first removed the old integration, rebooted, and then tried to add it again.

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oops

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I recently started migrating my existing setup from a raspberry pi +conbee2 with hass os to a home assistant yellow, but I'm having some trouble getting zigbee to work. Migrating the radio never really worked so I'm now trying to set up ZHA from scratch and just re-add all devices since it's only a handful, but even that does not seem to work. Yellow is discovered in the integrations page, but when I click "configure" and then "submit" I get an error message "unkown error occured". I don't see anything really helpful in the logs so I'm not sure where to start for the troubleshooting.
What I did test already is to start the install from scratch, which does work. Only when I reinstall and load the backup from the old install I get the error. I first removed the old integration, rebooted, and then tried to add it again.

sweet stone
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I'm testing a zigbee board with a few BinaryOutput clusters defined according to zcl and none of them is showing in HA. Is there any way to "force" them to show in HA as a switches with appropriate active / inactive states?

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forgot to mention that I'm using ZHA integration. I've tried also with zigbee2mqtt but no luck

austere patio
austere patio
dusky monolith
old kernel
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"18": 22.745098039215687,
"19": 27.058823529411764,
"20": 45.490196078431374,
"21": 0.0,
"22": 28.235294117647058,
"23": 14.117647058823529,

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these are the current numbers... is the 45 because of the various zigbee devices that are now on that channel?

austere patio
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Yeah, it's just telling you how "loud" the loudest thing is that it heard on channel 20. If you have a nearby bulb, that would be picked up just the same

old kernel
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makes sense

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and yeah there's a bulb about 3 feet from the antenna

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still have a dozen things to re-pair though, but it's things like the thermostats for the heating system, which i hopefully won't need for a few months

austere patio
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Did the channel migration feature not work out?

old kernel
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I didn't actually try it... I wanted to start clean with all the strange behaviors i was experiencing.

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once you pointed out that the network key (dd:dd:dd) came from zigbee2mqtt i realized how much cruft might be hiding in there

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(and, where it was taking up to 5 minutes to send a message (with enqueue depth or whatever it is called of well over 700), i didn't know how long it would take to actually tell things to move

austere patio
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That's excessive and I think needs a cap

old kernel
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+1 yeah. at that point it is just hurting itself

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is that a coordinator-internal thing?

austere patio
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No, it's software-controlled but the ZNP coordinators have a much more involved retry mechanism so requests can take 10-15 seconds to actually "fail"

earnest plaza
austere patio
earnest plaza
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Chrome

austere patio
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What version of HA? 2023.6.0?

earnest plaza
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5.4 currently; I'm probably going to hold a few days on updating to 6.0

austere patio
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I seem to remember seeing something like this in the past but I can't replicate it on 2023.6.0 so it may have been fixed

earnest plaza
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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ok

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I'll look at it again when I update to 2023.6.0 and circle back here

austere patio
earnest plaza
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will do

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ty 🙂

hushed hamlet
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I was looking at purchasing a ZBDongle-E or a Home Assistant SkyConnect, but the SkyConnect is currently on backorder and more expensive, are there any reasons that the official product would be better?

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(currently have Home Assistant running in a docker container on an old laptop)

quiet gazelle
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Recommendations for a ZigBee smart plug with energy monitoring?

grim igloo
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Is there a reason you’ve selected the efr32 chipset not cc2652p?

hushed hamlet
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I was just looking at the top of the recommended list

grim igloo
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On the zha page?

hushed hamlet
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yes

grim igloo
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I see

molten linden
quiet gazelle
grim igloo
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Is there a reason you want them on a zigbee mesh?

molten linden
grim igloo
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You’re adding a lot of traffic to your mesh for energy monitoring so unless you also need them for repeaters you might look into Wi-Fi ones instead

dry igloo
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Anyone have an aqara cube on ZHA?
Mine works for rotation / shake, but the knock / flip events never occur.

nvm I see there is an open issue for this.

dry igloo
chrome valve
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Oh, thats interesting because i struggle also to change the mode for the T1 Pro Cube. Did you anything in addition except pressing the button 2 times?

chrome valve
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I migrated this morning my ZHA radio from ConBee II to the HA Yellow internal EZSP radio. It seems everything went well but currently the devices does not react. Does it take some time after the migration until devices react again?

buoyant sorrel
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Hi all, I have a problem setting up my Zigbee2MQTT add-on. I'm running HA OS on a VM on my Synology NAS and use a Conbee II zigbee stick. As soon as I try to start Z2M it stops and produces this error log: https://dpaste.org/SCZMT

Anyone got any idea as to why this happens?

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-06-08 11:53:06: MQTT error: Connection refused: Not authorized
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There's your problem - fix the MQTT broker settings in Z2M

forest idol
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I was able to add it now.

buoyant sorrel
sweet saddle
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Hi, i bought Conbee 2 Deconz Zigbee Usb Dongle and Ynoa Smart Lamp compatible with zigbee 3.0. But install is not working. It should be compatible right? thanks

sour shadow
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  1. ConBee is on a USB extension cable?
  2. Lamp is in the same room as the ConBee?
sweet saddle
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  1. Conbee in plugged in my raspberry pi and i can select it in add-on configuration
  2. Yes
earnest mango
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Have you checked that the lamps are supported by deconz?

sweet saddle
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No, but on the website where I bought the Ynoa lamp it says it supports zigbee 3.0 protocol. Is deconz using another protocol?