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icy crane
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config > top tab is visualization

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in devices

thorn kelp
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idk why or how, but removing my Hue Go zigbee light from my network resolved all my weird ass issues with my zigbee network. No more random device disconnects. no weird lag with firing commands.

fair mountain
fair mountain
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Would be nice to have a list of "known bad" Zigbee devices.

mellow geode
thorn kelp
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It makes no sense but the only change to my network/airspace was removing this device

mellow geode
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Interesting. Do you still have the sw_build_id and/or installed OTA/file version?

thorn kelp
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unsure if i can grab that with the device offline

fair mountain
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plug it in. for science.

mellow geode
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Yeah, you‘d have to re-join it

fair mountain
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I've started a blog entry which I will keep up to date of broken Zigbee devices 😄

mellow geode
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Maybe a "unstable Zigbee devices" page could also fit in somewhat

hybrid cloud
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as much as ilove the blakadder zigbee site, it doesnt do much to say how WELL a device works w zha

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although thats generally how i check if a zigbee device works

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and then maybe do a little research on the zigpy or zha githubs

fair mountain
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Yes, they need a "This device will break your mesh" warning

mellow geode
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Some OSRAM and Tuya gear is also known to break stuff

opaque helm
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is there any aeotec multisensor 7 zigbee alternative to have all 6 sensors?

sour shadow
glacial zinc
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Why does my Zigbee network just die and fall apart over time?

sour shadow
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Interference, probably

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Could also be a bad choice of coordinator

glacial zinc
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I have a SkyConnect

carmine hamlet
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or bulbs-as-routers

sour shadow
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Yup, bad choice of routers/routers you turn off

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Osram devices in the mesh

glacial zinc
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I live in a house with a fair bit of distance from my neighbors, and all my wifi hotspots are using channels on the other side of the channel spectrum

sour shadow
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SkyConnect is on a USB extension cable?

glacial zinc
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And why does it work fine, and then die. And unplugging and replugging the SkyConnect seems to fix it for a day or two

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Yes

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Like, it's fine until it isn't, and then I have to prod every device to get HA to rediscover them again. I don't really know what to do.

fair mountain
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Sounds like its crashing, lol.

austere patio
cursive dagger
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My zigbee2mqtt addon stoppod worming today, it wont start anymore

TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'length')
    at AdapterNvMemory.init (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/adapter-nv-memory.ts:28:42)
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I didnt touch my HA instalation at all today (or for past few weeks) has there been some breaking changes lately?

sour shadow
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What coordinator?

cursive dagger
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?

sour shadow
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The Zigbee stick... aka coordinator

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What one?

cursive dagger
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Ah, let me check, i have used this one for years

sour shadow
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If you say CC2531 then you're overdue for an upgrade

cursive dagger
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how so?

rapid dawnBOT
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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

What something better? Anything CC2652 based (see here for some) or the current generation EZSP (see here for some).

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

sour shadow
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The CC253x chips crash under load, and sometimes their NVRAM corrupts at random requiring a re-flash

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Load can be as little as half a dozen devices

cursive dagger
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Ah, gotta love random issues that come up years after making a nicely working setup🫠

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Hmm, it seems that installing the homeassistant os update fixed it, it might have been caused by the addon having autoupdated itself

sour shadow
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The CC253x chips have been known to be poor for years now

cursive dagger
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Can i see the coordinator info from the webui, or do i need to get out of bed

sour shadow
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All you get in the UI is the type and firmware version, which may be enough

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Z-Stack 1.2 is a bad sign

cursive dagger
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Where in the ui can i find it

sour shadow
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Z2M: Settings -> About

cursive dagger
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Zstack12 rev 20190223

sour shadow
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That sounds horribly like a CC2531

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There are three ways of fixing the problem:

  1. Remove it for 30 seconds and hope that's enough to clear the problem
  2. Re-flash the firmware
  3. Replace it with a CC2652 (other than Sonoff)
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Option #3 is the best one

cursive dagger
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Tup, just checked the chip, thats it, but the issue was resolved by updating the hass os

sour shadow
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Then it sounds like it was just a minor crash and the upgrade also reset the stick

cursive dagger
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I did try a reboot for few times

sour shadow
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Reboot doesn't always reset the stick

cursive dagger
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Ah, i see

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Oh well, time to wait and see if the issue comes up again, this is the first time i have had issues with the zigbee setup

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I think i got the stick in like 2017-2018 and updated the firmware on it once in 2019 or so

hasty hound
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@icy crane "config > top tab is visualization
in devices". Thanks for the reply - but I still can't find it!

unborn orbit
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Has anyone had issues with Eaton/Halo RL460WHZHA69 acting as a router?

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I'm having a bunch of connectivity issues (devices falling off) with my Inovelli Smart switches and wondering if they are part of the problem

wanton ember
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Forgot to mention - it would be great if it worked over the WAN if that's a thing I want it for my parents house. I'd like to use Z2M as well. Server at my house and dongle at theirs. Thank you for your help by the way

hybrid cloud
wanton ember
hybrid cloud
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yeah you can run z2m there

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and put in your z2m ip and credentials

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just need to make sure traffic can be routed to it through the web

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if youre runnning mosquito in ha and your ha is already exposed to the web, that part is already done

wanton ember
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Ok perfect thank you

hybrid cloud
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sorry im not actually 100% sure how itworks, i might have got omse of that wrong. i use mqtt for a different service and i dont use z2m , but i think you just need to tell z2m where your broker is and it should manage the rest

wanton ember
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If I also want to run Z2M for my apartment where the server is, can I as well?

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Ahhh ok

hybrid cloud
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you can run 2 (or more) instances of z2m

wanton ember
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Perfect

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Thank you for the help!

hybrid cloud
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and send them to the same broker

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yw

harsh wedge
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Is there an easy way to start using my lights on z2m coming from a Hue hub without having to rebuild all the light groups and stuff I have?

waxen slate
jagged ivy
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If I want to run my Sonoff Dongle on my Pi while my HA is running elsewhere, is that possible to do? With ZWave I can just use ZWaveJS. I see there's a ZigBee2MQTT. I'm assuming I want that running on my pi?

grizzled kettle
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Yep

viral cipher
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Anyone have any experience with Centralite 3400 keypad? I've got it added to my ZHA network and I can use it to disarm my alarmo alarm as it broadcasts zha_event when 4 numbers are entered in succession (it sends disarm with the code) but all the other buttons seem to send no zha_event at all and I can't find much meaningful information elsewhere

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I'm not sure if I can do anything about it, and it does what I actually cared for it to do for $18 vs $70 for one of the currently built keypads. It would just be OK if I could arm it on the way out the door, but my automations do the arming in general so can live without

tropic depot
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there is a sequence for the key presses. I am in the office today and I don't recall off the top of my head... you also should have an alarm control panel entity that should be fully functional

viral cipher
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it did create an alarm entity with all the states, it doesn't change state on button press but maybe you're right maybe it's a sequence thing i'll try to find documentation for the keypad itself, I've tried various combinations but fair

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hmm, although it does update the keypad

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the keypad lights up for like "away" when I change that alarm state, interesting

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is there something to track/log/whatever (idk the correct term here) outgoing events to devices? Curious to see what kind of event is being sent to the keypad to set those lights when the state of the alarm entity changes

viral cipher
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guess those are still zha_events

solid inlet
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Hi, I have reinstalled HAOS and restored a backup. Zigbee works in Zigbee2Mqtt, but not in fronend, and I can't remember where to start look for issues. Can someone please assist or hint?

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It also looks like sensors work in Z2M, but does not trigger any scripts as they should, so some form of disconnect...

sour shadow
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That sounds like MQTT related problems

solid inlet
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Oh, well. it begun with Mosquitto wasn't started, so after doing that, Z2M also started

sour shadow
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Have you checked that HA is talking to the same broker?

solid inlet
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No... Where should I do that?

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oh. seems to be DNS... HA has some defaults not playing nice with my setup...

sour shadow
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HA's log file?

solid inlet
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Yes, log is always good to

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But this is strange... 'ha dns info' shows my expected one. Still Ha wants 1.0.0.1 @ 853...

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is this configured elsewhere too?

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I certainly don't have that...

sour shadow
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HAOS?

solid inlet
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Thanks, will listen with them. 🙂

harsh wedge
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Can a Hue light be connected to the Hue bridge and Zigbee2MQTT at the same time or can it only be part of one network?

austere patio
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Only a single network (although maybe you can control it with Bluetooth?). Why do you want it on both?

jagged ivy
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I'm configuring zigbee2mqtt. I want to run it in docker compose. In the docs it points me towards configuration.yaml to update before building docker. In there it has the location of the adapter. If I'm running in a container should I update that value, or instead just map the device to that value when I run my container?

sour shadow
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In there it should be the path inside the container

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For instance, you may map /dev/serial/by-id/blah-blah-blah-blah to /dev/zigbee

jagged ivy
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Okay. So if in my docker-compose I've got - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_8064770-if00-port0, should that match what's in data/configuration.yml?

jagged ivy
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Ahh, need to install mosquitto. Does it make sense to run that in Docker as well?

nova crest
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It does

sour shadow
jagged ivy
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Oh that's a good idea.

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So I've got mosquitto running on port 8883. Hopefully correctly. In my configuration.yml for zig, I'm assuming I can't just do server: mqtt://localhost:8883

sour shadow
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No

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but if your container is named mosquitto you could do mqtt://mosquitto:8883

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(or 1883)

jagged ivy
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Hm, that didn't work. Still getting
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-05-09 14:29:19: MQTT error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND mosquitto_container

harsh wedge
jagged ivy
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Okay, once my zigbee docker container is working, should I be able to log into a web portal to view it?

acoustic glacier
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Hey All. I have a Nortek HUSBZB-1 which is being identified however my Aqara magnet sensors are becoming unavailable. Log is showing one sensor became unavailable shortly after midnight. Any pointers / direction / help would be greatly appreciated.

sour shadow
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What Zigbee routers do you have?

jagged ivy
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Are people running their mosquitto/zigbee setups with certificates? I think that's what is giving me issues.

sour shadow
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I'm not, can't be bothered

jagged ivy
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Do you mind sharing snippets of your mosquitto conf then? The guide/doc I found uses certificates and I think that's why I'm having issues.

sour shadow
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persistence true
persistence_location /mosquitto/data/
password_file /mosquitto/config/pwfile
allow_anonymous false
log_dest file /mosquitto/log/mosquitto.log
listener 1883
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optionally add an acl_file, but at this stage it'll just complicate things

upper moth
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anyone have any recommendations for cheap but good zigbee color bulbs and switches?

buoyant spade
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Need to change Zigbee Channel as 15 is at 83%, has anyone here done it? Do you have to reset the entire network? Can i restore a backup etc? I dont dare try myself

mellow geode
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Are you using ZHA or Z2M?

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If you're using ZHA and are on the latest HA version, you can use this: #zigbee-archived message
A UI will be added to do this properly (possibly with 2023.5.3 or 2023.6.0).

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When using that method, most mains-powered devices will stay on the network and migrate properly.
Most end-devices you'll likely have to re-pair (though some move over).

onyx briar
acoustic glacier
jagged ivy
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Ugh, I'm hitting this error now in Mosquitto

1683672266: Opening ipv6 listen socket on port 1883.
1683672266: Opening ipv4 listen socket on port 1883.
1683672266: Error: Address in use```
Googling around seems to imply it happens when you don't have `listener` defined in your conf file, but I do. It almost seems like the docker container is launching multiple instances.
near echo
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You have some other program or another instance of program running

jolly plank
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Hey i was told this belongs here?

I got a Problem with the Aqara vibration sensor (DJT11LM):
I use it to detect if i am Moving my office chair. Works pretty much as i would like it to. Detects Movement just enough so i can do stuff with it. THEN a few days go by and it stops reacting to normal movement and i have to hit it HARD to react. When i removed the battery and got it back in it started acting normal for a day or so and then getting back to being useless.

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I use zigbee2mqtt

mellow geode
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Did you try a new battery?

jolly plank
sour shadow
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New devices may have been on the shelf for a year or two, and the batteries may have been old before that

jolly plank
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New cell is in. If the problem reappears i will report back. Thx for now.

tropic depot
harsh wedge
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Will a Tuya zigbee 3.0 water valve work with my zigbee network out of the box or is there something proprietary with Tuya that requires modification?

sour shadow
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Yes, and no

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At least as much as anything Tuya works

molten linden
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the ones that move the valve handles don't actually do any tuya nonsense and are pretty much compliant end devices. I just had one where the motor burned out (I assume) . The spare I had in the bin turned out to be wifi so I had to improvise. https://home.social/@tubeszb/110330100776422246

visual surge
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Is anyone aware of any major vulnerabilities in zigbee2mqtt currently?

sour shadow
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No

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What have you heard?

visual surge
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One of my machines appears to have had a user-level compromise and the entrypoint was zigbee2mqtt.

sour shadow
visual surge
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Admittedly it shouldn't have been outside/WAN facing in the first place (which would have negated the issue as they'd have never been able to reach it in the first place, but the firewall didn't come back up due to a chain of events).

sour shadow
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The UI I assume?

visual surge
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The UI was disabled as far as I'm aware. Basically a file was uploaded to /tmp and then executed.

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It could have been though given the "incomplete" state of things on there.

sour shadow
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Well, if the UI was disabled then only MQTT would have been available to interact with Z2M

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Which would mean that either the UI wasn't disabled, or it wasn't Z2M

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(or you exposed MQTT)

visual surge
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Even if the UI wasn't disabled, that shouldn't have allowed for arbitrary upload and execution purely from within the MQTT UI.

sour shadow
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Oh... I'd agree

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the UI does allow file upload though, by design

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Execution is scary, and I'd encourage you to report the issue so that the bug can be found and squashed

visual surge
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Damn, 2FA on my GitHub. I'll have to report it later. I've done something of an autopsy on what was left so I can dump that in too.

sour shadow
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I'll certainly be interested in following the progress, this kind of thing is both scary and an opportunity to learn

visual surge
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Whatever it was doing, it actually kept knocking my entire internet connection offline the last few days. Maybe my ISP trying to negate whatever attack it was sending back out perhaps, fun.

harsh wedge
molten linden
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yes I've been happy with them. Have one in the crawlspace and don't think I've have to visit it at all since installing.

mighty river
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Hey, I'm not very sure I should ask that in this channel, sorry for that.
I have ikea tradfri lights (working very well with my automations) but when I try to change a white color to another color it'll flashes once at full brightness for no reason. And when I change from a color to a white color it flashes down.
That's very weird and I only have that on home assistant (scenes, automations, manually, ...). When I try to change from white to a color or vice versa using the zigbee2mqtt interface it works perfectly. Does someone know why this happens ? Firmware problem ?? Thanks a lot!

vivid phoenix
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So I just bought a sonoff ZBDongle-P; when connected to HA it popped up automatically and all working. However, my tcv is missing a lot of entities. So i wanna try z2mqtt

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but i get Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)

austere patio
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Did you remove the Zigbee Home Automation integration?

vivid phoenix
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I didn't forward the device anymore to the HA docker

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I guess that's enough?

austere patio
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If the container is privileged it may still have access to the radio. Either remove or disable ZHA.

vivid phoenix
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it is priviliged yes

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damn, you are right

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i totally forgot about the priviliged....

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thanks

vivid phoenix
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great.. exactly my rgb bulb is not supported 😦

vivid phoenix
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can you rstart zigbee2mqtt while a ota is happening

jagged ivy
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Trying to get mosquitto set up in docker. I'm generating my username/password using mosquitto_password like the docs say, however when I bring the container up I get Error: Invalid password hash for user admin, removing entry., should I not be generating it that way?

pure cobalt
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I have a problem using some tuya enabled smart plug. First config went OK in zha, however removed the devices and wanted to add them again in different config. However trying to add second time results in frozen initialization. Some research shows it is white label of the PLUG-001SPB2 device. Seems like the plug is not sending out endpoints for discovery after first init anymore. Anyone know how to get these plugs initialized again?

sour shadow
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But ... it may not, and you may brick it

vivid phoenix
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thnx, it's now almost finished only 7 minutes left

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i didnt know it would take 2 to 3 horus

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hours*

finite osprey
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I have tons of repeating errors apparently all related to Samjin plug in outlets (ZB 3.0 sold by SmartThings) - at first I thought it was something with my system but when I noticed that all the IDs I checked are for the same type of outlet, I started to wonder whether something changed in ZHA causing this issue... https://pastebin.com/mkLjJewX

steep anchor
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I cannot get my tuya zy-m100 sensors to work with zha or zigbee2mqtt.

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In zha they just show 2 entities that are not enabled. In zigbee2mqtt they show they aren't supported even though they are.

steep anchor
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Had to switch to zigbee2mqtt edge to get it to work.

rapid dawnBOT
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@muted pelican I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
austere patio
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@muted pelican there were no ZHA changes between 2023.4.4 and 2023.4.6 that would affect radio operation. Are you running Home Assistant OS?

muted pelican
finite osprey
# austere patio The error says that requests to those device failed because the connection to th...

connection to coordinator broken as in rf interference impeding communication or a uart/usb issue? A new neighbor configured his wifi on ch 9 which is right on top of zb ch 25 that I use however other than that error, things appear to be working ok (things weren't but I placed a metal shield beteen the coordinator and the outer wall facing the neighbour which seems to be helping). The samjin outlets always caused errors related to power reporting btw.

sour shadow
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WiFi 9 is clear of Zigbee 25

sour shadow
finite osprey
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@sour shadow ah, I got confused with ch20 which is where I was before moving to 25 a few months ago. Ok, then I guess it is not interference as the most powerful wifi ch11 is mine and it is on the opposite side of the house set at only 14dBm, all the other (closer) APs are on 1 and 6. Oh, and yes... I am using a USB 2.0 extender cable on a USB 3.x port (only type on this device). I also tested a USB isolator but it did not seem to help.

hybrid cloud
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have you checked debug logs to see if the report interference

fallow tide
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Hello all. i simply cannot migrate my ZHA drom my current GoControl HUSBZB to my new SkyConnect. i followed the guide on the SkyConnect website and i am seeing screens not in the migration guide and then it fails to connect in the end. i have screenshots

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this is the final error

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damn can't post screenshots i guess in here

finite osprey
# hybrid cloud one of my biggest pet peeves about zigbee is definitely how poorly so many devic...

If you were talking to me... yes, I am also getting an occasional "your zigbee channel utilization is 70-9x%" so I did all I could think of to address it but I still get the message. The coordinator is on a side of the house, and since I can't move it, I tried to add a shield to block any potential interference from a neighbor on that side. I was playing around with higher gain antennas, but reverted to the one that came with the sonoff zigbee dongle. I am looking to acuire a better usb 2.0 extension (better shielding, etc) as the only ports I have are 3.0 and 3.2. I have 5 APs, and only one is on channel 11 (closest to zigbee 25) and it is the furthest one. I also set it to a low 14dBm.

finite osprey
austere patio
austere patio
mellow geode
fallow tide
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i also see this screen early in the migration process that i did not see in the migration guide... not sure if it means anything https://i.imgur.com/xQsMAlE.png

austere patio
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This means that ZHA can't auto-probe your radio, which means that its serial port probably isn't working

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How are you running HA? Docker? The OS in a virtual machine?

fallow tide
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its a ESXi VM and i have 2 other sticks passing through just fine and i can see the skyconnect listed in the hardware

austere patio
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So probably a passthrough issue

fallow tide
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ESXi see's it and i see it listed in the VM and when i go to the hardware then all hardware section in HA it listed

austere patio
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The USB portion may be passed through correctly but if the serial port isn't, this is what happens

fallow tide
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but why is HA reporting it in the Hardware if its not being seen?

austere patio
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HA sees that a USB device is plugged in and the USB device is reporting a specific model and manufacturer. When ZHA actually tries to talk to the device's serial port, however, nothing is sent back. It's a common issue with passthrough.

fallow tide
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so its an issue with my skyconnect stick then? i have sonoff dongle-p and my gocontrol husbzb that are not having issues and are plugged in the same way

austere patio
fallow tide
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ok i will try that i guess. just odd that i have 3 sticks plugged in and only that one is having an issue. but i will try to flash it

finite osprey
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@fallow tide - Curious to know your findings as I too am using a VM (Proxmox) and while my Zwave stick seems to work without issues, my Sonoff Zigbee stick is reporting UART issues. I'll follow puddly's guidance and look into passthrough as well along with replacing my extension cable with a better quality one just in case.

fallow tide
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so i plugged the skyconnect into my PC and the flasher will not find it either

austere patio
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As in it's not detected?

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Or the serial port doesn't show up?

fallow tide
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ok i had to add the driver and now the flasher is seeing it

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do i actually flash it?

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there is an option to change firmware

austere patio
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What is currently installed?

fallow tide
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says Multi-PAN (RCP) 4.2.3 Home Assistant Skyconnect

austere patio
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And that would be the problem 😄

fallow tide
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what is the problem?

austere patio
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The SkyConnect ships with Zigbee firmware. If you used it with the multi-PAN addon, you need to flash it back to normal Zigbee firmware, because the multi-PAN addon installs multi-PAN firmware

fallow tide
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so i should choose change firmware and choose one? there 4 options to choose

austere patio
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Yeah, flash it back to Zigbee firmware if you aren't going to be using multi-PAN

fallow tide
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3 and upload your own

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  1. what is multi pan, do i need it? 2) if i choose zigbee will it still do matter when i need it to?
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sorry for all the questions... just trying to understand and make the right choice

austere patio
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No worries. You must have enabled multiprotocol support in the Hardware menu at some point, because that's the only way to flash multi-PAN firmware to the SkyConnect. It lets the SkyConnect manage both a Zigbee network and a Thread network (for Matter). This requires special firmware, which is what the addon installs, but the firmware makes the SkyConnect incompatible with ZHA directly: you can only use it with the multi-PAN addon.

If you don't need to run multi-protocol, just flash it back to Zigbee firmware and it'll work as you expect. You can try multiprotocol again at a later time.

fallow tide
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ok. thanks

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so.... last question for now i hope..... i am flashing it back to Zigbee as you suggested, what will happen if i buy say, an Eve plug that uses matter. will i need to do something to it again?

austere patio
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Matter can work over both WiFi and Thread. If it's a WiFi device, you won't need to do anything, because it never would have connected through the SkyConnect. If it's a Thread device and you have no other Thread border routers (I think Apple HomePods, some Google devices, etc.), you'll need either a second stick for Thread, or go back to the Hardware menu and re-enable the (beta) multiprotocol feature

fallow tide
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ok. i dont have a matter device but i assume they are coming and i will probably get one eventually

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now my HA wont start

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wait.... terminal says it didnt start but i can access HA on another page... very odd

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by the way.... the migration to Skyconnect failed again too. same errors and same screens

austere patio
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Do you have the multiprotocol addon running?

fallow tide
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no

austere patio
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Double check. If not, then this is 100% a passthrough issue, because the web flasher talks to the SkyConnect in exactly the same way as ZHA

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And just to be 100% sure, you flashed the "Zigbee" firmware?

fallow tide
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yes

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the multiprotocol addon is called just that i am guessing? cause i do not see it

austere patio
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It's called "Silicon Labs Multiprotocol"

worthy holly
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Hello, I want to add a Sonoff ZBDongle-P (shows us "Silicon Labs CP210x UART Bridge", on Ubuntu)

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to my HA running on a raspberry pi 4 on a docker container

rapid dawnBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

Zigbee :bee: - please remember to mention whether you're using zha (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha), zigbee2mqtt (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io), or deCONZ (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/deconz). If you're using some hub, we probably can't help you though - try the #integrations-archived channel instead.

Looking for devices? See https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ and https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_devices.html.

Wanting advice about what stick? Look in the pinned messages. Just don't buy anything CC2530 or CC2531 based.

sour shadow
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The links for ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT are there

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ZHA is part of HA, Zigbee2MQTT is separate and requires an MQTT broker

worthy holly
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Thanks again

sour shadow
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Your stick will work with either of those

worthy holly
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What would be the best for someone without any config experience with Zigbee ?

fallow tide
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definatley do not see that addon installed

worthy holly
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I have several zigbee devices but I use all of them through their apps or connected to a hub

sour shadow
worthy holly
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Ok. I will start reading about each and come back better prepared.

sour shadow
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If you're new to all of this then ZHA is the easier route

worthy holly
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Cool. I will start there

fallow tide
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@austere patio i was looking in the wrong place... the addon was still installed. i uninstalled it and restarting HA

austere patio
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So the addon auto-flashes the multi-PAN firmware every time it starts (if it detects the wrong firmware is installed)

fallow tide
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will try again after it restarts

austere patio
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You'll have to go back to the web flasher and re-flash the Zigbee firmware again

fallow tide
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really?

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oh damn

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thats a procedure to do with all my VM's lol

austere patio
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You can't hotplug it?

fallow tide
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unfortunatley... for some odd reason if i do that the "VM" no longer sees it till i do a full reboot

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will do it later

median yew
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Just bought a sky connect and swapped it with my SONOFF P. I'm just starting off moving all my IoT to zigbee but it seems the sky connect has a much reduced range compared to the sonoff, it's not reaching my devices from my network closet like the sonoff did but will if I move the pi closer. They both say the radios are 20dbm but the sonoff has a much larger antenna. Has anyone else noticed a reduced range from the sky connect?

hybrid cloud
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how close is your skyconnect to any device that has a usb 3 port as well as other 2.4ghz interference

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i noticed that the skyconnect was slightly more susceptible to that interference, but half a foot farther way aws enough to fix it

median yew
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Yeah the pi is connected to an external drive and there's also a wifi AP in the closet. But I've checked and the channels for wifi and zigbee shouldn't be interfering

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I'll try and move it as far away as possible from those

hybrid cloud
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its on an extension cable, right?

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also did you migrate the network or re-pair your devices. if you have router type devices, it's possible that your more distant devices aren't routing through them but were before

verbal swallow
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How do I create scenes with Zigbee groups? They seem to be created as an entity instead of a light and for some reason scenes only give me the option to pick devices.

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I have noticed that using the entity with all of my ZB lights in a chandelier controls them all simultaneously, however I am struggling to use the group entity other than manually

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Found it, had to tick advanced options in my profile!

rapid dawnBOT
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@waxen slate I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
jolly python
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Is there a decent zigbee alternative to the ikea symfonisk remote e1744 in a similar form factor?

jolly plank
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Oh and taking the battery out didn´t help this time so it seems to be a new problem...

fervent spire
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I have a aqara d1 3 gang w/ neutral switch, but when i add it via zha,
the main switch is classified under switch (lumi.switch.n3acn3) but the buttons are classified under lights (light.lumi_lumi_switch_n3acn3_light_2)
im also issues automating the turn on via call service in node red (but i can turn the switches on from dashboard manually)

anyone encounter this kind of issues before ?

sour shadow
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Is there a decent zigbee alternative to

scarlet plume
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Howto configure the 4 gang scene switch manufacturer”: “_TZ3002_jnspjt9a”, “model”: “TS0024” to home assistant I have a similar switch Zigbee Model :TS0004, Zigbee Manufacturer :_TZ3000_ublqrn3p. they work fine. could someone help me with my problem pls
I am using zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
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Is the switch correctly identified in Zigbee2MQTT?

scarlet plume
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I is added but unsuported

sour shadow
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Then the HA part is irrelevant

scarlet plume
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I am to dumb please guide me through I don't know how to code or understand code.

sour shadow
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Nobody is dumb, you just haven't learned yet

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However, that guide covers it... hundreds, if not thousands, of people have followed that guide to get devices supported

scarlet plume
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I didn't understand what do
From zigbee
To zigbee
Expose

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Mean

sour shadow
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The Z2M Discord can likely help you better - but usually you start with an existing converter

scarlet plume
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Ok thank you

opaque helm
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How many zigbee routers do I potentially need(minimum) to get from 1 side of the house 1 floor higher and then 10m across the hallway? (4m to the left, 2m straight up to start of the hallway, 10m across the hallway and 3m right into the room).
I got Sonoff dongle E, gonna get 2 switches as routers and PIR sensor on the other side of the house

sour shadow
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Depends on the nature of the walls and floor, the angles involved, and more

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At least one, maybe 2 or 3, maybe even more

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I have 2 devices about 12 meters apart that can communicate directly (though the signal isn't very strong). I have another 2 devices about 1 meter apart that can't see each other at all.

opaque helm
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normal brick walls and it's literally just 1 wall to the hallway where I plan to put switch (like 6m from dongle) and from there is straight 10m (no walls) to the living room with another smart light switch

sour shadow
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Probably you'll find it'll work from dongle to switch to light switch...

opaque helm
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my wifi adapter next to the sonoff dongle captures super, super low 2,4ghz wifi signal from the living room AP

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so I think those 2 should be more than enough

sour shadow
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Doesn't mean much, WiFi is a lot higher power than Zigbee

opaque helm
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true but isnt distance kinda similar

sour shadow
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No

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Distance is a factor of frequency and power - if you reduce the power you reduce the distance

opaque helm
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oh, ok good to know 👌

oak socket
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Hey,
i have a question, how can i add a zigbee device like "Bosch Thermostat II" to zha with the install code? Or works it only with zigbee2mqtt for now? I swapped my system from iobroker to HA.

mellow geode
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Check out the zha.permit service call parameters

oak socket
trim elk
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Hello! I'm trying to add my zigbee dongle to my docker compose instance. Having some trouble.

The devices attr in the compose yaml:

devices:
      - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_12345id-if00-port0:/dev/zigbee

But I get a Error response from daemon: error gathering device information while adding custom device "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_12345id-if00-port0" no such file or directory

I've file-browsed there and verified the path and that device is listed. Using /dev/ttyUSB0 gives the same error (even though udevadm shows it being registered to that port)
Is there something I'm missing?

fallow tide
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hello... so still working on a migration issue going from a gocontrol dual stick to skyconnect. so after all the trouble i had yesterday, i did the migration today and it went through all the steps and said it finished. however i still see the ZHA showing my old stick

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ok... it seems i still needed to delete the ZHA integration and then re-add it back

austere patio
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If you delete the integration you will lose all of your entity customization. You can just rename it.

trim elk
ashen bluff
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Was it a snap?

trim elk
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snap? like easy?
Wasn't too bad. Just a lot of copy/pasting 😂

bitter harbor
trim elk
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ah, no, I've never heard of that before

still portal
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morning guys. Just got a TubesZB POE Router, I am quite new to zigbee, but the idea is to expand the coverage through the house via this device. Home assistant recognizes it, also ESPHome, but I cant add it to Zigbee2MQTT any ideas how can I achieve this ? Would like to have it visible in Zigbee2MQTT together with the rest of devices or am I doing something wrong ?

vivid halo
molten linden
warm totem
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Hello All,

i bought levolo touch switches (with zigbee) But they wont connect to HA unfortunate.
I use Z2M and paste the code in my config.yaml. How can i get these things to work?

still portal
molten linden
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you can reset it by popping the case lid open and tapping the BSL button while powered on.

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you should see a led lit when powered as well - this is turned on by the firmware when it boots.

still portal
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Thanks! 🙂 Awesome little piece of equipment you have done! 🙂

molten linden
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thanks

pure saddle
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I have a really basic question about ZHA, since I've only used zigbee2mqtt so far, and used that knowing very little about HA in general: if I use ZHA for my Zigbee devices (all Philips Hue), do I have to create automations for every single thing (like controlling lights with a dimmer switch)?

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For z2m I used NodeRed but if I can get off of that I would

austere patio
pure saddle
austere patio
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Depends on the switch but probably

pure saddle
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That seems unworkable

austere patio
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You can use blueprints too

pure saddle
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(to support every feature I think it would be... 12?)

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it seems like someone would've done this already

carmine hamlet
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One way or another you need to tell HA what to do

pure saddle
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Yeah, that much is clear - I thought it might have some "wiring up" functionality, there's bizarrely little info on what ZHA looks like or does

carmine hamlet
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That's pretty vague. You need to start with what you want to do

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What's 'wiring up'?

pure saddle
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Think NodeRED, if you've seen that

carmine hamlet
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You can use that if you want

frigid mango
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Hello! I am having hard time with my Z2M setup using SONOFF p dongle. Would someone have some time to discuss some troubleshooting steps Please?

rapid dawnBOT
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Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
pure saddle
carmine hamlet
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Native automations don't work like that

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Still unclear what you want

sour shadow
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If you want HA to do anything then that requires automations or tools like Node Red

pure saddle
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Not to have to write 12 automations to handle one switch, but it looks like the magic word is "blueprints"

austere patio
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I think blueprints fit the bill

pure saddle
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so I'll look into those

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(and thanks @carmine hamlet)

frigid mango
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I am having low LQI with several devices already integrated. I have my p dongle flashed with coordinator software. I am unsure if I am getting 20dbm TX power m. I set it under advanced in yaml file. Did someone here encounter same issue?

austere patio
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You generally do not want to mess with TX power because it will have no impact on LQI

frigid mango
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I am really close to those devices and I am stuck on mid 60s LQI

austere patio
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Do the devices otherwise work?

frigid mango
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Like 2m no walls, my 2.4ghz Wi-Fi is set to 20mhz channels and is set to channel 11, my zinbee dongle is on channel 11 too

carmine hamlet
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That's not really bad

frigid mango
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They work fine but LQI is low

austere patio
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Don't worry about optimizing LQI, if they work they work

frigid mango
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Would you recommend staying with coordinator firmware then?

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I heard about flashing it as router in case of p-dongle

sour shadow
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If you flash it as a router it's not a coordinator any more

carmine hamlet
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That would destroy your zigbee support

sour shadow
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Also... if it works, don't break it

austere patio
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You can flash a second stick as a router and put it in the middle (and hope devices pick it/force them to by rebooting them or rejoining them to the network), but you can do the same by just buying more mains-powered Zigbee devices. I wouldn't worry about LQI, you can have devices with near-zero LQI that still work.

frigid mango
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Sure, thanks for the insight. Is there a way to rebuild the network by force?

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My issue is I have the p-dongle in garage where my rack is and it picked up a smart socket along the way but it doesn’t seem to extend further

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I have smart blinder switches and those seem to be only picked up when I brought my home assistant host machine to the house for tests

austere patio
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Do you have any other routers?

frigid mango
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I was hoping for the smart plug 10m away from rollers that is acting as a router to pick that up

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Yes I do

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On map the plug shows up as a router

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And it’s not far away from blinder switches

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Those would not adopt into network without me bringing the host machine to living room

austere patio
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Did you join the rollers in exactly the place they will end up sitting, or near the coordinator?

frigid mango
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Those are immovable. I have those switches in wall conduit boxes and coordinator is living in garage rack. I had luck adopting them only after I brought the dongle with host to living room next to them

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That’s why I was obsessed with TX power and LQI

austere patio
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Right. When you do that, the blinds pick the stick as their parent. Once you move the parent away, they may stop working.

frigid mango
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I thought that I had interference issues with my 2.4ghz Siri

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Let me share my map real quick

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I am afraid I can’t send it in here

rapid dawnBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

frigid mango
sour shadow
frigid mango
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This would be current topology

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I can see the smart plug has independent connection to blinder switches

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Is there way this is going to work after I move the host back to garage? It had connection as a parent to the smart socket

sour shadow
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Moving stuff around pretty much ensures it won't work

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If you can't pair it in place then it doesn't have a strong enough signal there

frigid mango
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Just a sec

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My point I am trying to pass is

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I know the host can see the socket from garage

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And socket sees blind switches

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But those wouldn’t integrate

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When host was in garage, didn’t come up when I enabled joining and had them in pairing mode

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But I can see router connection from socket to those now, and I will have the connection to socket

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I will add more devices but I am wondering if socket is going to be routing/bringing in this case

sour shadow
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You can pair via a specific router device, it's hidden away somewhere in ZHA's settings

frigid mango
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Not using ZHA

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I mentioned above I am team Z2M

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Using MQTT

sour shadow
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Well, it's not at all hidden in Z2M's settings, it's pretty obvious there

frigid mango
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Okay gotcha, good to know then. Mind pointing me in right direction or to some resources on this?

sour shadow
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For?

frigid mango
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The options how to pair this and the setting

sour shadow
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That's a drop-down

frigid mango
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Okaaay well I am doing permit join all already

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So that’s concerning

sour shadow
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That's not what you want though

frigid mango
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Coordinator?

sour shadow
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You want to use the drop down to pick the router

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Basically, force it to join via the nearest router

frigid mango
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Okay gotcha, much appreciated

tough flare
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Hello, I am new to home automation and thinking about buying some more devices so that I can get into it more. If I get a USB Zigbee adapter, I was wondering if there is some way to disable the Zigbee radio with an automation? I know this is a bit of an odd request, but my parents are those people that think any type of wireless communication gives you cancer and keeps them from sleeping well, so I need a way to disable the radio at night.

sour shadow
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  1. You can't
  2. You'd cause yourself problems doing that
  3. You've got bigger problems
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Hopefully your parents never hear about this new invention called the radio

tough flare
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Well, unfortumately there is nothing I can do about the bigger problems lol. Ive been trying to convince them for so long that it doesn't matter that Ive given up long ago

sour shadow
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I know the type, you're better off not bothering with any non-wired sensors

tough flare
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Can you even get wired sensors and smart switches and such?

sour shadow
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Yes, KNX and others

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They cost a lot more

tough flare
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It would be a whole lot more hastle that I am looking for, and also yes the price.

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At this point I can get away with as much wireless stuff as I want during the day, but I have to have a routine in my router that disables all WiFi radios at night. So I was hoping that there would be a way to disable the radio from an automation, and then just plan on none of those devices working at night, which would be fine in most cases.

sour shadow
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The problem is, you'd have to power down all the mains powered Zigbee devices too, and take the batteries out of the battery powered ones

tough flare
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Do they actually transmit anything if they aren't connected though?

sour shadow
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Just shutting down the coordinator won't stop all the other devices continuing to broadcast

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They'll be busy broadcasting at higher power trying to connect to the mesh

tough flare
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Ok, I guess that won't work then lol.

sour shadow
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I mean... you've got three options here

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  1. Move out
  2. Pay more
  3. Lie and hope never to be caught
tough flare
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I guess WiFi devices would work, as long as I can find devices that don't set up an AP mode once disconnected right?

sour shadow
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Which things like Google Home devices do, and many others will

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Battery life for WiFi sensors tends to be terrible

tough flare
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Yes, and yes. I have plenty of smaller devices that don't however, so not everything does. At least I could get some wired switches, like the Kasa ones, it would be better than nothing. (As long as I can make sure they don't go into AP mode first)

devout vortex
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Hello, Hopefully this is the right channel for help. I just setup home assistant. So very new to every thing. I've been following a guide to get it setup. In the video it shows to add any zigbee devices using the conbee 2 stick, you just add it with add integrations and add zigbee device. In my research i saw / bought a aqara motion sensor. I tried to pair it that way but it wouldn't come up. I've found older videos that show i need to use deCONZ with aqara. in the video they just add it. but in the new version when adding deCONZ its asking for a name and port before I can add the software. And nothing i type seems to work. I'm also going with out a aqara hub as from what I read, my pi is the hub. Any help would be appreciated.

dire owl
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Hi, im selling my conbeeII. How do I remove my network information from it? Thanks

austere patio
dire owl
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Awesome! Thats exactly what I did.

pure saddle
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Hi, I'm back with more basic questions. So, I've managed to migrate my Zigbee network from z2m to ZHA, but... the switches don't show up as switch entities, they show up as binary sensors and fire events when I push buttons

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In the previous setup I could name the switches and lamps and use them as "normal" devices but I can't figure out how to do this here

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Or rather, it works for the lights but not the switches

pure saddle
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Oh, I see - it's not necessary!

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Well, this is very cool and a lot easier than with z2m :)

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(he said, dooming himself)

ember valve
junior reef
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I'm in the process of migrating from an SD card to an SSD and I'm facing a few issues. Upon restoring from backup (same RPi4, same Sonoff Zigbee dongle, same HW overall except for the storage drive) I seem to be unable to talk to my ZigBee devices. I'm getting errors like this: https://pastebin.com/xM0Rq4Sn What's going on, how do I troubleshoot it?

shut summit
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Home Assistant Core

Error setting up entry SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2 for zha
10:57:03 – (ERRO) components/zha/core/gateway.py
Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 1 of 3)
10:57:03 – (ALERTA) Zigbee Home Automation - a mensagem ocorreu pela primeira às 10:56:07 e apareceu 3 vezes
Couldn't set EzspConfigId.CONFIG_MULTICAST_TABLE_SIZE=16 configuration value: EzspStatus.ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY
10:56:39 – (ALERTA) components/zha/core/gateway.py - a mensagem ocorreu pela primeira às 10:55:44 e apareceu 6 vezes

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I'm receiving this message when I try to set up ZHA

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This is my first time trying to set up ZHA

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Anyone knows what's hapenning?

tropic depot
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Make sure you have the most current firmware on the stick

mellow geode
foggy niche
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So I'm really new to HA and Proxmox (Installed yesterday) .... Since installing I've had this error message come up in my HA under integrations. "SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2 Zigbee Home Automation Failed to set up" Any ideas please? I thought it was a plug and play thing

sour shadow
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What's in the log file?

foggy niche
# sour shadow What's in the log file?

Error setting up entry SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2 for zha
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/bellows/uart.py", line 268, in reset
return await self._reset_future
asyncio.exceptions.CancelledError

foggy niche
# sour shadow What's in the log file?

Also says this... Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 1 of 3)
Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 2 of 3)
Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 3 of 3)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/bellows/uart.py", line 268, in reset
return await self._reset_future
asyncio.exceptions.CancelledError

rapid dawnBOT
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@foggy niche When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

fathom ibex
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Can anyone point me to information how to configure zigbee binding two devices when using ZHA?

iron salmon
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Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 1 of 3)

austere patio
polar fulcrum
jovial aspen
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If you’re looking to build your home around it, buy a decent coordinator.

sour shadow
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The Sonoff has QC issues - you may be fine buying that, or you may get something that fails randomly

mighty river
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As title says, I looked at the temperature graph of this sensor in my bath and saw a flat line for the readings, checked in Zigbee2MQTT and yep it’s reporting that this sensor was last seen 1 month ago. So now I’m just wondering: what are the troubleshooting steps for me to check up/try to discover

why it has last been seen that long ago,
what caused it to drop and not re-establish connection
how to “reset” it /what to do so it’s connected again and reporting its state and
what to do to prevent in the future from happening / get some kind of automation to report such behavior

From what I’ve seen it had 77% battery state a month ago and should have no problem to connecting to the Zigbee network as there’s an always plugged in smart plug right in the next room that acts as a router, and all the Zigbee smart bulbs in the rooms all around it seem to also work and respond fine

sour shadow
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For (2) the answer is usually either weak signal or interference

mighty river
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you think its battery ran out, even though it was reporting 77% before it stopped sending data?

sour shadow
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Quite possible

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More so if it was connected to a relatively distant router

mighty river
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does that happen, that the battery just dies from an almost full state (or the state was always reporting wrongly)?

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the router should be ok, i paired it with a smart plug that right in the next room

sour shadow
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Did you pair it to that plug, or just hoped that it would pick it?

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Xiaomi devices pair via the first thing they hear from, regardless of signal strength

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Other brands vary

mighty river
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the hope thing, i haven't explicitly do any manual pairing selection, just paired it in place

sour shadow
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Yeah, so if it is a Xiaomi device you may have shot yourself in the foot there

mighty river
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yep, it was an Aqara temperature sensor (from Xiaomi)

sour shadow
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Then the solution is to replace the battery and pair it via that router

mighty river
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i'll try the battery thing then, didn't expect it to be dead

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thx!

sour shadow
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Battery reporting on these devices is always suspect anyway

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I had a Fibaro sensor that would report 100% right up until the battery died

mighty river
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hmm shame, I actually got the Aqara sensors because the consensus in the forums seemed to be that their battery seems to last a long time

sour shadow
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They do, if you don't shoot yourself in the foot

lofty whale
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hi, I am trying to install zigbee2mqtt on a container. Can someone tell me how do I determine the location of the zigbee adapter if I am using a networked adaptor instead of a USB one?

sour shadow
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If that's one of Tube's he has docs that cover it

lofty whale
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Tubes?

sour shadow
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Tube's networked adapter

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You didn't say which of the many many many options you bought...

lofty whale
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I got the HamGeek POE Zigbee 3.0 Coordinator

sour shadow
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Did their manual not give the port details?

lofty whale
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Which doesnt give any indication of port details

sour shadow
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They've also got a manual you can download

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But if it behaves like Tube's then socket://ip_or_localdns_name:6638

lofty whale
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let me try that

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gosh... how to I test out if the coordinator is working?

sour shadow
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Z2M won't start if it doesn't work

lofty whale
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can I do a ls -s socket://12.18.1.21:6638 ?

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in ubuntu

sour shadow
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No

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That's not a local file, that's a description for a network device

lofty whale
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docker run
--name zigbee2mqtt
--restart=unless-stopped
--device=//12.18.1.21:6638
-p 8080:8080
-v $(pwd)/data:/app/data
-v /run/udev:/run/udev:ro
-e TZ=Europe/Amsterdam
koenkk/zigbee2mqtt

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I used this to install and I got "docker: 6638 is not an absolute path."

sour shadow
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It's not a device, you don't do that

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Also..

rapid dawnBOT
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To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Shift+Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
example: here
```
Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

sour shadow
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You only have to pass local devices through, not network devices. Just configure Z2M with the socket details

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Oh, and use a compose file, your future self will thank you

lofty whale
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how do I configure Z2M with socket details?

sour shadow
lofty whale
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I still dont understand what is the correct path to the adaptor.

lofty whale
sour shadow
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Maybe neither

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Maybe just

serial:
    port: 'socket://ip_or_localdns_name:6638'
``` as already shared above
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I however don't use a network connected adapter. I also haven't read the manual for your device.

lofty whale
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I have a working zigbee2mqtt instance working with my Home assistant OS install on another install. Is it possible to find the configurations there?

sour shadow
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Is it also using the same kind of network connected coordinator?

lofty whale
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yes

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the same

sour shadow
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Then yes...

lofty whale
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how do I find this in HA OS?

sour shadow
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In the add-on UI

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Or the Z2M config file

lofty whale
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where do I find this config file?

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file editor?

sour shadow
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I have no idea... I don't use HAOS... but probably

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It's certainly visible in the HA add-on UI

lofty whale
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so if I just copy the whole configuration.yaml file over, it should work and in the process also restore all my zigbee devices?

sour shadow
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You also need all the other files

lofty whale
# 
   --name zigbee2mqtt \
   --restart=unless-stopped \
   --device=???????????? \
   -p 8080:8080 \
   -v $(pwd)/data:/app/data \
   -v /run/udev:/run/udev:ro \
   -e TZ=Europe/Amsterdam \
   koenkk/zigbee2mqtt
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so what should I put in device ? or should I remove it?

sour shadow
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As I said before, remove it

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And use a compose file

carmine hamlet
lofty whale
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Ok. yes I am pasting this in docker compose. Thanks for your help!

verbal swallow
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I have a light fixture with 18 lamps, currently all sengled zigbee. I am struggling with how to effectively control them with HA and how to send a command that will fire on all lamps.
ZHA groups and helpers both seem to fire on 14-16 of the lamps but never all.
Complicating the matter is ideally having different intensity levels for each layer of lamps for aesthetic reasons.

cyan ember
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One message removed from a suspended account.

sour shadow
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Is that Zigbee sensor your only Zigbee device?

cyan ember
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

sour shadow
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Ah... so no Zigbee routers

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Are all those sensors in the same room as the coordinator (dongle)?

cyan ember
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One message removed from a suspended account.

sour shadow
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Did you follow Zigbee good practice?

  • USB extension cable
  • Picked a channel clear of WiFi
  • Paired everything in place
cyan ember
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

sour shadow
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It certainly will help - not using an extension cable will cause problems

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As for the channels, did you check for WiFi or just hope?

cyan ember
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One message removed from a suspended account.

sour shadow
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There's pinned messages, but any WiFi scanner app is a good start

austere patio
cyan ember
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

austere patio
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So probably ZHA

cyan ember
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One message removed from a suspended account.

austere patio
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Click this button https://i.imgur.com/PgNk2MI.png and look at the JSON file that will download a few seconds later. What does the energy_scan section in it show?

cyan ember
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

rapid dawnBOT
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@cyan ember I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
austere patio
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What channel is your network on?

cyan ember
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One message removed from a suspended account.

frigid mango
#

I am having an issue with LIDL light, it's rebranded Tuya controller

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It's TS0502A, after integrating it into Z2M it lost ability to change the warmth of the light

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would you have any ideas how to troubleshoot this? and settings that might help?

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There is color temp slider but it does not react to commands

jovial epoch
#

Have you experienced any issues with the SONOFF SNZB-03, where it stops reporting its states or remains in a detected state?

thorn kelp
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I have some of those Smartthings motion sensors that have been reporting the same temp for 2 months straight. Others that just stopped sending temp data, and most just work fine.

jovial epoch
#

zibee2mqtt

sour shadow
surreal river
#

I've been using home assistant with the zha integration for a while now and am pretty happy with it so far, but I'm now running into mayor issues when trying to send too many zigbee messages in a short timespan. E.g. I'm trying to set up a night light automation, If the night light boolean is enabled my setup will set the brightness and color temperature input numbers, which have automations attached to dim the lights and set their color temperature. From what I can figure this should attempt to send 4 zigbee messages at the same time, which is apparantly too much as it will consistently fail to set the brightness of the last light in the automation. Am I missing something obvious here? 4 messages doesn't sound like it should be too much...

austere patio
surreal river
#

conbee II

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(which seems to get recommended in a fair few places)

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and it's on an USB extension cable too, as to not get too much interference

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(and notably sending single messages works 100% of the time)

austere patio
rapid dawnBOT
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@surreal river I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
austere patio
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What channel is your network on?

surreal river
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15, which is the default. suppose I ought to move it?

austere patio
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Channel migration didn't make it into the frontend this release but you can manually run the command with your browser's dev tools using the instructions in the message I'm replying to. auto will probably pick channel 20. Note that channel migration for Zigbee is not super reliable and it's possible that some of your devices will not migrate properly, requiring a reboot or a re-join to start working again.

surreal river
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alright fun stuff, lemme try that

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I'm assuming I gotta give it a hot second to actually do anything?

austere patio
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It takes about 10-15s to broadcast it to all of the devices on the network

surreal river
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ah yeah there we go, channel 25, lets see if that improves things

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all the lights seem to have migrated along so that's nice, didn't fix the issue unfortunately

austere patio
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So they're still not turning on and off reliably when controlled as a group?

surreal river
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that works fine iff I turn on/off a single group. If I turn on two groups, twice, then the second group only gets turned on once. which matters because of brightness settings etc

austere patio
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"Group" here being a light group, or a ZHA group?

surreal river
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zha group

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light groups are hella worse for this problem 😛

austere patio
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And are you activating a scene, or just turning them on/off?

surreal river
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not using scenes

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basically the automation flow is toggle boolean -> set brightness and color temperature numbers -> turn on 2 zha groups with color temp set, turn on the same 2 zha groups with brightness set

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adding a sleep between setting the brightness and setting the color temp helps some, but still isn't reliable

austere patio
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The reason I ask is because Zigbee just has a limit on how many group commands (really broadcasts) can be sent at once. If you set the brightness, color, and state of a group of bulbs, that's three broadcasts. If you do it two or three more times, you'll exceed the network maximum and they'll just be dropped.

surreal river
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mhm

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that's suboptimal

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I don't think I'm bumping into that yet, but it's possible I suppose

austere patio
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If you can, enable ZHA debug logging, do your group stuff, and then disable it to download a log. Can you PM me the log or upload it somewhere (e.g. https://dpaste.org/ )?

surreal river
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sure thing, where do I poke it to do zha debug logging?

austere patio
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It'll be right below the "Download diagnostics" button

surreal river
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alright, gimme a sec

austere patio
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TXStatus.NWK_BT_TABLE_FULL is the status code most of your broadcasts are failing with so it looks like you're hitting the limit.

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Devices can be members of many groups at the same time so you may want to create a new group for specifically the devices you want to control. Or try sending requests to them as a normal light group, without broadcasts. You may have better luck with the latter after the channel change.

surreal river
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huh

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well I'll go give that a shot tomorrow, it's getting late now. thanks for the help so far!

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sort of tangential question: couldn't home assistant re-try when this happens?

austere patio
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When the broadcast table is full it probably won't make a difference (since the retries would fail, it takes seconds for the table to clear), but for sending requests to individual bulbs it should, this is something that will hopefully be fixed in the next major release

surreal river
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hm, I see

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well thanks again in any case. if you never see me again your advice helped ;P

bronze harness
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I am struggling with my HA + Zigbee setup. It usually works pretty great and then suddenly HA can not fetch or send data from Mosquitto it seems. I've connected an additional client to the MQTT topic and I can see data being sent from Zigbee2MQTT. When downloading the HA MQTT logs I can see that the device entity is state unavailable and restored. What should I check?

sour shadow
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Have you checked HA's log file yet?

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One very common error is for people to put something in the url field of Z2M's configuration that isn't actually a URL. Then HA throws an error and refuses to work with Z2M.

bronze harness
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it worked for over a week and suddenly I can not access my Zigbee2Mqtt devices. No errors at all in HA logs...

rapid dawnBOT
sour shadow
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Go there, then to MQTT and Configure

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You can listen to # to see if it's receiving messages

bronze harness
sour shadow
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And you've actually checked the logs for the message I linked?

bronze harness
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yeah no entries in the logs. What is strange though that when I turn on/off the light in Z2M the message does not pop up in HA but it does show up on my laptops MQTT client. What could be the reason behind that?

sour shadow
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Well... that sounds like HA isn't seeing the message then

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You've only got one broker?

bronze harness
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yeah, only one broker

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If I send a message on my laptops client it does show up on HA still using the same topic.

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I do not have a url field in my Z2M. Could this be the issue? If so why does it work for some time then?

sour shadow
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I assume you mean you haven't set it, which is a good thing

bronze harness
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Hmmm what could be the reason why my laptops mqtt client receives the messages on the same topic but HA cant see them?

sour shadow
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  1. Some form of ACL on the broker
  2. Different brokers
  3. Something's broken on HA
bronze harness
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Rebooted the host and now we are back operational.... Strange issue...

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Thanks for your support!

sour shadow
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Which version of the dongle?

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There's a P and an E version

orchid drum
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its the P version

sour shadow
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Did you flash it with the latest firmware?

orchid drum
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but i just did a second clean install and this time it worked 🙂

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so nevermind 🙂

ashen bluff
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Please don't ask the same question in multiple servers at the same time in the future

versed palm
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Am I missing something or does Z2M groups only allow switches & lights? Tried to make a group of contact sensors but it wont add the devices to the group

sour shadow
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That sounds right, groups are about control

wanton river
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I am running Z2M currently.
Right now using the sonoff dongle E.
Dongle P arriving soon to troubleshoot some issues. Any reason to not use the dongle E as a router?

versed palm
sour shadow
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Yes

fresh sentinel
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Has anyone experienced the same and has a solution maybe?

urban jetty
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Hi guys, i had a skylinknet hub with there own communication channel. I need to replace contact and motion sensor. Tinker recommand me Zigbee stuff. Where i start ?

rapid dawnBOT
#

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

sour shadow
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Start there ☝️ with either ZHA (built into HA) or Zigbee2MQTT (separate)

austere patio
urban jetty
sour shadow
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Maybe, but that's why you buy Zigbee router devices

fresh sentinel
verbal swallow
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Anyone have experience with the MOES (tuya) scene controllers? I just set one up and had to replace the battery suspiciously quickly and now that I have replaced the battery it seems to be stuck with just one light on all the time...

mellow geode
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ZHA or Z2M?

verbal swallow
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ZHA

mellow geode
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I might have an idea what issue with the power drain is

pure saddle
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I have a weird issue with Zigbee groups. I made three of them, one for each room. Two work normally. The third includes the lights I assigned it, plus those of another room/group, which I did NOT assign.

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Group 1 is A,B; Group 2 is C, D; Group 3 is E, F, G, and then I assigned them to switches in an automation

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The switch controlling A/B works normally. Ditto E/F/G. But the C/D switch controls C/D and A/B.

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This is all using ZHA, migrated from z2m. If I use HA groups, it works as expected.

tropic depot
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They may have been in the group previously and ZHA doesn’t know about them. Add the offending devices to the offending group and then remove them

pure saddle
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looks like it re-used the group id

pure saddle
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One more thing: I get a log warning that "Zigbee channel 11 utilization is 78.25%", but everything seems to work fine. I've googled around and found some scripts that would migrate to a different channel, though I have no idea

  1. if I should
  2. if yes, to which and
  3. if that means I'd have to re-pair everything manually, which is confusingly contradictory.
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My instinct is to leave it be since it works and I have no intention to add further zigbee devices

fresh sentinel
velvet hatch
#

Hello! I've got a couple of Aqara temperature sensors which are dropping off the network after a while (not sure of the exact time frame). Can anyone recommend steps to troubleshoot? I'm having trouble finding log data.

sour shadow
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First thing I'd check is for WiFi interference, and then what device they're connecting to

crystal kite
#

I finally got the usb extension. Plugged it in and moved the hub away from my laptop. I am having the same issue as before. I get the zigbee aqara motion sensors detected but then they don’t detect motion

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I tried reconfiguring and it said “The device reconfiguration failed. Additional information may be available in the logs.”

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Do I need to be running any addons or anything? My zigbee ikea switch works no problem. I’m confused why the Aqara sensors connect but then don’t work #

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Any help would be greatly appreciated

dry radish
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This means it failed to find the route to the controller I guess? How long does it take for the sensor to fall off?

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I think aqara sensors are extra hard to pair, I have a few, is it the cylinder shape one?

crystal kite
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Yes it is. Reconfiguring works now. I have no issue connecting them. It says motion detected at first but then after a minute it stops. I wave my hand in front of it and it never changes state

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Is there a way to check if the sensor works outside HA? I have a sonoff dongle as my hub so I can’t get the aqaras app to work

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Is there a better place I can go for help with setting up home assistant?

verbal swallow
mellow geode
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Hopefully, the battery drain shouldn’t continue after that

verbal swallow
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Model: ESW-oZAA-EU

velvet hatch
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How would I check for WiFi interference? FWIW, I've got 10 LED lamps on Zigbee which are working just fine. I also have a couple of smart plugs which are intended to function as routers for the mesh; those seem to be working fine as well.

The temp sensors show that they're not connected to anything in the network map.

verbal swallow
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you could download wifiman (on android at least) and IIRC it will scan and show frequency utilization

fair mountain
#

Does anyone know if it's possible to capture all Zigbee traffic on all channels, with something like an rtl_sdr? I am trying to troubleshoot some Zigbee issues with Association Requests.

jolly hollow
#

All of my ZigBee devices became unavailable all at once. I rebooted my entire machine but not sure what else to do. What are some troubleshooting steps besides restarting everything? I am using the HUZBZB-1 and ZHA. HA 2023.5.3

mellow geode
verbal swallow
mellow geode
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Ah, it’ll be included. Did you try re-pairing to see if that works?

molten linden
jolly hollow
molten linden
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check logs, enable debug logging for zha (same 3 dots). with more info easier to get help

jolly hollow
molten linden
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enable debug logging, reload then disable debug logging from same spot and you will be prompted to save. upload to dpaste or similar.

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verbal swallow
# mellow geode Ah, it’ll be included. Did you try re-pairing to see if that works?

At this point I am still stuck on the scene controller not acting as I would expect when installing a new battery which I struggle to relate to HA. I am hoping that tuya tech support can help out, however so far they have just asked me to send them a video of the controller doing nothing and said they dont support HA and to use their app instead 🙄

crystal kite
#

I will pay someone to help me figure out why my aqara motion sensors are not working. Please I am desperate to figure this out and have had no luck searching the internet for hours

jolly hollow
crystal kite
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I’m new to HA. I just got the sensors and it’s started since I’ve tried to hook them up

jolly hollow
molten linden
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zha from that same menu

crystal kite
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I have removed ZHA and readded it and that did not work. My ikea switches assigned to ZHA work no issues. It’s just these sensors

jolly hollow
# molten linden zha from that same menu

Ok, I'm doing this from my phone but it looks like, when I reload it automatically turns off debugging. The icon disappears and going back into the menu enable debugging is an option again. Does that sound right?

molten linden
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hmm I didn't know that. the zha docs have instrucitons on turrning the logging up via config change.

jolly hollow
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It automatically downloads a .txt without prompting is that what you want, or the json from tapping download diagnostics?

grim igloo
jolly hollow
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Is it the txt file that's useful then? It's massive and I have no idea what I'm looking at

molten linden
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yes share the contents on dpaste and link here. not sure if I will be able to hep but will look.

jolly hollow
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Hopefully there's nothing personal in there

molten linden
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it's talking to your radio okay and I'm not seeing anything that sticks out to me. maybe someone else will.

sour shadow
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I have removed ZHA and readded it and

jolly hollow
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Ok thanks

crystal kite
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Can someone please help. My aqara sensors connect to ZHA but do not work after setting up. They don’t detect motion. Log above

molten linden
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connection to the stick keeps breaking. what are you running HA on?

crystal kite
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A laptop that I changed to HAOS

molten linden
#

ezsp

crystal kite
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Data flow control hardware or software?

molten linden
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soft I believe.

dry radish
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I think due to some limitation aqara motion sensor are slower to trigger and takes longer to reset, did you wait at least 5 minutes in between before trying to trigger it again?

midnight forum
#

Anyone ever have a zigbee stick just die on them? I have one of the generic CC2531 sticks and all of a sudden at 3am all of my devices became unavailable

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Tried this to no avail

grim igloo
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Congrats you have a great reason to get a 2652 one

midnight forum
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I mean I have no objection to moving to a different radio but do they really just die like that out of the blue?

dry radish
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I know CC2531 can be pretty cheap, I got one without case for ~$5 usd, so I will not expect it to be of very high quality. It is pretty weak as zigbee coordinator after all.

grim igloo
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It’s not super common but yeah the sticks die

dry radish
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If you insist you can try connect it to serial and see whether it is due to firmware issue, etc. Recommend backup if possible.

midnight forum
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Yeah I dont know it still shows up in the OS but all devices are unavailable. If I put a device into pairing mode I can get it to see the device and finish the interrogation but it immediately becomes unavailable

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I have had no real issues with the stick for the year and a half I have been running in this configuration

grim igloo
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That sounds like interference not a stick not working

midnight forum
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If I am already using ZHA, is there any reason not to get a EFR32MG21 based dongle vs a CC2652P?

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I understand Zigbee2MQTT does not play nice with the EFR32MG21

grim igloo
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Personal preference / thread eventually

midnight forum
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EFR32MG21 would be the one that supports thread right?

grim igloo
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Some prefer the stability that 2652 provides (proven reliable for years)

#

And the different stack or whatever

#

Ezsp vs embernet I think

midnight forum
#

Just did a backup of my Zigbee USB stick but there are only 18 MAC addresses in the JSON file but the UI is showing 21 devices. Does the UI show devices that have been logged in HA as existing at some point or is it a live view of what it thinks is on the Zigbee Stick?

molten linden
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Not all devices will be in the backup.. that’s normal and fine

austere patio
midnight forum
austere patio
molten linden
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at some point I'll put together a how-to for the non-yellow-skyconnect crowd. not in a rush though.

languid talon
#

Hi, I have a fairly established ZigBee network using z2mqtt. 47 devices (14 router, 33 end devices). I'm checking the network map and there's a few strange routes being taken by some devices. For example:

  • Some devices that are in the same room as the coordinator are actually routing via another device in a different room instead of connecting directly.
  • Some devices that are really far from the coordinator are connecting directly to it rather than going via routers.
  • In a few rooms, most devices are using the correct router (in between coordinator and room) but some devices are doing their own thing and connecting to a different router elsewhere. LQI for most devices is 25-150

Are these issues worth being concerned about? Do I need to force a 'rebuild' of the network?

grim igloo
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You can’t force it to update routes across the mesh

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That’s one thing I much prefer about zwave

languid talon
#

Ah okay, so as long as everything is working it's better to just let it do its thing?

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I read somewhere that you can disconnect the coordinator for ~30 mins and the network will be rebuilt after it comes back online.

crystal kite
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I have a separate thread made with my issue with the aqara sensor if anyone is willing to help. Please it would be greatly appreciated

crystal kite
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Does anyone know how to select which router to connect to with ZHA?

molten linden
#

what do you mean? @crystal kite if you want to join a device through a specific router, you go to the router device's config page, and in the 3 dot menu is a option to join via this device.

crystal kite
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I was told there is a way to change which zigbee router you connect to. The issue with my aqara sensor might be because of the router. I’m trying to connect it through my ikea switch as the router. When I click the 3 dots I don’t see an option to join via the ikea switch https://imgur.com/a/gR6458l

crystal kite
molten linden
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that's a battery powered end device. only mains powered devices can be routers in the mesh

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(it also doesn't look like it's online either)

crystal kite
#

Ugh I just don’t know what I’m doing and can’t find any clear guides online

sour shadow
#

What actual router devices do you have? The map should show them

molten linden
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the log shared yesterday showed serial disconnects. solve that first otherwise nothing will work. try a different usb port etc. maybe you got a bad sonoff stick 🤷🏼‍♂️

crystal kite
#

My ikea switch works though. I have automations and it turns my lights on and off

sour shadow
#

What actual router devices do you have? The map should show them

crystal kite
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My Devices
Raspberry pi 4
x12 lights - WiZ LED Smart - https://www.walmart.com/ip/687078291
Nvidia Shield
Xbox
Nintendo Switch
Lg A1 TV
LG sound bar
Renpho air purifier
x2 Goove Bluetooth LED strips
x2 smartlife outlets
Lenovo smart clock
x2 google home minis
JBL smart google home speaker
Search mushroom in HACS
x2 aqara motion sensors (these things suck)
x2 switchbot automatic curtains

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A lot of these are not set up yet because I don’t know what I’m doing

sour shadow
#

The Zigbee routers

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All the rest of that is irrelevant

crystal kite
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I don’t know what is a zigbee router and what is not. I tried searching online but I really just don’t know

sour shadow
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Then share the zigbee map

crystal kite
sour shadow
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ZHA's list of devices would help too

crystal kite
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This is it

sour shadow
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Oh... wow

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Are your Aqara devices in the same room as the coordinator?

crystal kite
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But like I said a lot of stuff isn’t set up yet because I don’t know how to

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Yes

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I tried on the same room and not in the same room

sour shadow
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Ok, then it's not a range issue, though it could be a problem with them not wanting to talk to your coordinator directly

ember valve
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https://i.imgur.com/XKfXwYd.png
Does anyone know how to get a motion sensor to clear its motion? It clears it once when I power it on, and then it detects motion, but then motion detected state just stays on forever and it never triggers again.

carmine hamlet
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that's a function of the motion sensor

ember valve
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So the motion sensor is likely bad?

quiet gazelle
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Any specific reasons why my Philips Hue and Samsung SmartThings motion sensors (configured with ZHA) would drop off randomly and not change states? Seems related to the battery getting below 80% which makes no sense.

carmine hamlet
ember valve
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What do you mean by that? How do I do that?

carmine hamlet
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I mean: review the documentation for the device, and what is available in the "Exposes" and "Settings" and "Settings (specific)" sections in Z2M for the device

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same as you would with any device to change the way it behaves

quiet gazelle
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@carmine hamlet What's a good way to extend Zigbee coverage throughout my house? Around 2300 sq ft and my Zigbee coordinator is pretty much in the middle.

carmine hamlet
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please do not randomly tag people

quiet gazelle
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Sorry!

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Any thoughts on my zigbee motion sensors?

ember valve
haughty sedge
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For example, a light bulb or zigbee plug will route and help extend your mesh.

quiet gazelle
sour shadow
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Innr plugs seem to work really well for many people

quiet gazelle
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So even if I just plug those into outlets with nothing else using them, they still help as routers?

sour shadow
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When you say "nothing else using them"?

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Many end devices, particularly Aqara, won't change route automatically - you'll have to pair them through the router for them to use it

quiet gazelle
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As in plugging the Innr plug into an outlet, but not plugging anything else into that plug. What do you mean when you say change route automatically? The Aqara switch is supposed to be a router

sour shadow
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Well, Aqara's Zigbee 1.2 devices are well known for being "sticky" - they pair to the first device they hear and won't change

quiet gazelle
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ah...

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I seem to continue to have bad luck any time my wifi restarts or my home assistant reboots. The zigbee devices will be working well for a while, then suddenly become unavailable

dire crag
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i want to make a zigbee smart plug work in a mushroom light card what can i do so it will work because if i put the zigbee plug as its entity it says entity not found

sour shadow
quiet gazelle
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How can I check the Zigbee channel?

sour shadow
sour shadow
molten linden
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ZHA no longer has a default, it does an energy scan now and picks the least noisiest channel.

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this this is as of 2023.04

sour shadow
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Awesome

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Somebody should update the docs then 😛

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ZHA prefers to use Zigbee channel 15 by default

molten linden
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if only Hedda was here.....

grim igloo
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How did you miss that tho? Puddly talked about it a bunch here lol

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I thought this was your second home

quiet gazelle
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I have 2 APs in my house, 1 is using channel 1 and the other channel 11 to avoid overlap

sour shadow
grim igloo
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Ah

molten linden
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the diagnositics for ZHA will have an energy scan in them take. a look at the download and see what channels have the lowest energy score.

grim igloo
sour shadow
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There's one in the pinned messages 😉

quiet gazelle
sour shadow
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26 is a bad choice in the Americas

grim igloo
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I use 25 and put my 2.4ghz ap using channel 11 furthest away from it when choosing channels for all my APs

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Depends on interference of course

grim igloo
quiet gazelle
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What should I be looking for in the ZHA diagnostics? Never looked at this thing

molten linden
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towards the bottom you should see an energy scan section

quiet gazelle
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I see that. Is lower better?

molten linden
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yes

quiet gazelle
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Looks like channel 25 is the lowest

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Not sure how to set ZHA to use it tho?

molten linden
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search here, there is a way to change via browser console there will likely will be a button in next version of HA.

half cradle
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Looking for a Zigbee hub. The HA computer is on another network, so so something with POE is good. Anything also a bluetooth proxy?

sour shadow
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If you're in North America then Tube is "local"

half cradle
grim igloo
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that's the one i'd buy

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bluetooth proxy.. buy an esp32 and flash it with esphome

half cradle
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Looks slightly "fancier"? more future proofing?

grim igloo
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lots

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basically they both do the same thing using different chipset and different stack but tube can expand

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ahem, "the tube"

molten linden
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efr32 is same as yellow/skyconnect.

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(same radio)

half cradle
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which I assume is a good thing

molten linden
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only get efr32 if not wanting to use zigbee2mqtt

half cradle
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2 dollars more and seems better. If I could buy a POE sky connect I would

molten linden
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as it's only experimental support

half cradle
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@molten linden says experimental, so it will probably come

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yea

molten linden
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fyi, tubeszb is me 😉

half cradle
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ohai tube! I should have put that together

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My HA is at my "office" and my "home" is where I want this, they are connected via a site to site vpn on their own IOT network. it actually works pretty well

molten linden
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these work by using network serial

half cradle
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I just did Tuya convert on some gosund plugs, no problem communicating with the broker at "work"

molten linden
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so you need a pretty good network connection. the cc2652 is actually a bit more tolerant to that than the efr32.

grim igloo
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owlrly

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due to the stack?

molten linden
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both stacks are kind of black boxes.

grim igloo
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as in magic?

carmine hamlet
molten linden
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meaning closed source

grim igloo
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robc confirmed yerba mate enthusiast

grim igloo
molten linden
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I don't know how much is open now.

half cradle
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@molten linden am I a weird one for wishing the EFR32 had a bluetooth proxy built in with poe ?

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am I just a weird use case

molten linden
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si labs does push all of gecko sdk to github now, it used to be behind a serial number from a devkit

molten linden
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both use 2.4ghz

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the proxies are resource intensive

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so don't want anything that could interrupt serial connection.

half cradle
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I guess I don't need a BT proxy for fingerbot if finally go zigbee

molten linden
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there are folks who have done it though. they run esphome and yaml is open so free to experiment.

half cradle
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I'd rather have less

grim igloo
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it costs $5 for an esp32 to flash esphome on (to use as a BT proxy)

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i have a couple around the house to use some cheap xaiomi sensors

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but zigbee ones are better

half cradle
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so anything I would ever need ble I can find In zigbe

grim igloo
grim igloo
half cradle
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well yea for wifi

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I also already have a bunch of hue bulbs

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@molten linden one more question

grim igloo
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chyna

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if you see "tuya" in the name just ignore it dude

grim igloo
half cradle
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haha, yea, I did tuya convert on my gosund plugs

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so you converted your hue to zigbee? thats what I'm thinking

grim igloo
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i didnt convert anything

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i just deleted them one at a time from the shit hue hub and added them to zigbee2mqtt

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then added end devices like motion sensors

grim igloo
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race to the bottom shit

half cradle
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thats what I mean, on hue

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eventually move over all of your lights

molten linden
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That's not an open device, you'd be relying on the tuya integrations

half cradle
grim igloo
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tuya convert is all but dead for most devices

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i buy devices i can flash with esphome now such as the sonoff s31 wifi plugs or i buy zigbee/zwave

half cradle
molten linden
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I was referring the the hub you linked above

half cradle
grim igloo
half cradle
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even my adhd is confused

grim igloo
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confused about what

half cradle
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having several different conversations at once, lol

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anyway, I bought the device @molten linden . My goal is to replace my hue bridge eventually with that, and buy more zigbee shit

molten linden
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cool, thank you!

half cradle
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thank you!

grim igloo
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i havent seen a single person dislike his coordinators

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should be pretty happy with it

half cradle
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I'm good with expiremental too. now, I can start going full on zigbee

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ah see! I could have board a zigbee IR instead of broadlink

grim igloo
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or diy with esphome for dirt cheap

half cradle
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well yea, but I have the broadlink, so thats cheaper

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I'm not used to being able to do this stuff

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I've been a nest field tester for 10+ years, so I get all their shit for free, but can't usually intergrate

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they have been finally opening it up for us

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why do people prefer Zigbee2MQTT over ZHA?

grim igloo
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Fuck nest and fuck google

half cradle
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LOL

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well, its an abusive relationship

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I get annoyed, then they send me another camera

grim igloo
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Most people here know better than to buy, use, or suggest nest products

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Anyways we’re outside the scope of zigbee

half cradle
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LOL, They are free man, and yes, (I've also been a tester for a decade)

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hence why I am just starting to get into zigbee

dry radish
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I have this Sylvania SMART+ ZigBee Full Color Indoor Flexible Lightstrip I bought cheap back in days and it is sitting in the corner of my room, recently I noticed surrounding lights are acting up and when debugging I realized this lightstrip is acting as a router and nearby light bulbs are all connected to it although itself has very poor reception. I think it is somewhat broken however I couldn't immediately replace it, I wonder if there is a way to disable its router functionality thus avoid affecting nearby devices? I really don't care if itself need a few tries before turning off/on. Thanks for any suggestions.

grim igloo
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no

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long answer: also no

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you could most likely cut off the zigbee controller and put a wled or other controller on the led strip

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like de-zigbeeing it

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this is why people like myself go out of our way to not put random shit on our zigbee mesh such as tuya

dry radish
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Yeah I'll try that. Lesson learned. I'll look into making use of the lightstrip in another way. Hopefully there are cheap solutions such as ESP32 or what so ever.

grim igloo
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the hard part is just identifying the led strip (i.e. ws2812b)

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the rest is easy, such as wiring to an esp32 or premade controller using an esp microcontroller

dry radish
grim igloo
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oh it's analog

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😦

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no fun

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there's a diagram there for analog led strips - you'll need mosfets. or just buy a better controller premade

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there is also the gledopto / pro models for zigbee

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i have no personal experience with them, i prefer wled for led strips and individually addressable leds not analog (i.e. a data line not r/g/b/w)

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oh confirm the strip is 5/12/24v or w/e the controller you replace it with can handle

dry radish
grim igloo
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gross

dry radish
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Any recommendation? I want it to last a while...

grim igloo
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yes, buy a controller from athom (or similar) running wled and your preferred strip

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then integrate with home assistant