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fair mountain
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oh

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i have many issues. z-stack firmware bugs. Inovelli switches dropping their children. lol

onyx briar
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I can see the logs of the remotes signal being detected, the automation just doesn't fire

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The tuya integration works really well it's just a pain to set up

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Word of warning, I think the only reason it works for me is my main network is on channel 20 and I think the tuya default's to 15

long helm
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Running HA 2023.4.6

long helm
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Fixed it by turning of server and doing full reboot, just rebooting HA didn't help

gleaming turtle
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Hey guys

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I was planning some automations, but I think I need some guidance

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I was planning on using a zigbee button such as the aqara button that has "hold" states

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I wanted to activate an automation while the button is pressed, and deactivate when the button is released

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But I'm not sure if any button has that state, I interpreted "hold" to be like a "while held" but come to think of it it might be more like "when held for 3 sec"

hybrid cloud
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Fixes 99% of tech problems across the world

pliant goblet
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Anyone has issues with Sonoff Zigbee Bridge Pro?

wild wyvern
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Hey guys, my zigbee extension lead is showing the switches as lights. Any ideas how i can correct this?

pliant goblet
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It seems to crash after cc.flash()

molten linden
wild wyvern
molten linden
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check the device signatures - guess tuya and the thrid has a slightly different signature causing the quirk not to match

wild wyvern
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That is what i thought. All of them show as "TS011F by _TZ3000_cfnprab" but the third has a slightly different manufacturer number

molten linden
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you maybe able top copy to the quirk to the custom local quirks and add the additional manufacturer id to it - if it works consider making a PR to zha device handlers

ashen compass
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Anyone know of a zigbee hdmi switch? My TV is short on hdmi ports but don't want to have a physical switch

raw lynx
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Ya'll running the new Aqara E1 curtain motor yet in ZHA?

i've got it up and running but after a few seconds it goes unavailable.

not sure if there's a quirk cooked up for it yet

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scratch that i found a quirk and it does work but the device continues to just go offline after a few seconds

scarlet gust
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Has anyone had trouble (or success I guess) pairing a sonoff smart plug using ZHA?

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It’s in pairing mode maybe 10-15 feet from the controller and it’s not being found

tropic depot
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So I just had to reset one of their relays and had an issue too

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remove it from the wall

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then plug it back in and hard reset it

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then try

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for the relay I needed to kill the breaker for a few to get it to pair even though it was blinking / in pairing mode

scarlet gust
tropic depot
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Probably just holding the button on it for like 10s

scarlet gust
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I should note that this is the newer plug model S40

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didn't know the difference between that and the S31

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so went for the higher number

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k will try, thanks

grim igloo
scarlet gust
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Good to know. Maybe I’ll return these and switch. Do you know what the difference is? Tried to find it but couldn’t get any details

grim igloo
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I wanted power monitoring but didn’t want to have all that traffic on my zigbee mesh

tropic depot
grim igloo
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On sale mine were around $6 a piece but I checked yesterday and they weren’t currently on sale

tropic depot
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Innr and Sengled also have decently priced energy monitoring plugs as well

hybrid cloud
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something about the constant stream of sensor data makes me feel like zigbee would be a bad choice for energy monitoring outself

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but honestly i know literally nothing so im probably totally wrong lmao

grim igloo
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It’s roughly double that of zwave I think

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Hence my suggestion above for Wi-Fi ones

hybrid cloud
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i just wish there were more decent wifi devices that arent tuya. local control is great and all but having to futz around with tasmota or the developer site is just not a smooth or seamless experience

grim igloo
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For what

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I prefer zigbee or zwave for most things but Wi-Fi for led strips due to wled firmware

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And I’m liking esphome more and more with all the templates ready to copy paste

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I think Wi-Fi is getting more popular due to HomeKit support which we can still leverage as hass users with HomeKit controller

hybrid cloud
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just for options honestly

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i dont know if id get more wifi if i had the chance but, decent native local control would definitely sway me a bit

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i honestly havent touched esphome at all

grim igloo
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It’s so nice

fair mountain
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lol i have a z2m light group that keeps turning the lights back on ..

hybrid cloud
fair mountain
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that's what I thought, but I dont think its the case

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Just changed the z-stack firmware version and the lights stay off now 😄

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i was running a really old version to test something

grim igloo
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I’m not saying it’s your fault but you make zigbee look hard and unattractive lol

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And you’re like the only one who falls into that category

hybrid cloud
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lol

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i have had my problems with zigbee but, now it just works

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cant wait for thread to still be a mess when i pick up my first product in like a year

thorn kelp
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Is there a ZHA -> Z2M migration path that doesn't involve re-pairing all my devices?

molten linden
thorn kelp
# molten linden No

not now or not ever kinda thing? It'd pretty much be a weekend of work to migrate all my devices

molten linden
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They keep track of devices completely differently. You can use the same network settings but z2m won’t know about the devices as it didn’t interview them.

thorn kelp
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makes sense, so 'not ever'. i'll have to find a weekend to set aside for this i suppose.

fair mountain
hybrid cloud
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had my network break once on zha and i had to go around trying to remember everything

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ando nly 15 or so device at the time

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good luck

crimson dust
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Changed battery in 4 IKEA controllers (Been dead for a while) and now 3 units show 255% battery and one 16%.. how come? I'm sure all batteries is at max capacity, from same package
Using ZHA with a Conbee2.

subtle arrow
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I just installed an inovelli Blue Switch, with a skyconnect. I'm having trouble controlling the LED. Anyone else run into this issue?

carmine hamlet
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ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT? How are you trying to control the LED? What problems are you having?

subtle arrow
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ZHA - When I try to send an action via automation it says "Unknown Error". The logs give me this: Unexpected error for device at pos 1: Failed to convert led_effect='Small_To_Big' from type <class 'str'> to <class 'zigpy.types.basic.uint8_t'>

tropic depot
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The test doesn’t work

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But the automation will

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there is something whacky with the conversions when using the test function

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I haven’t had a chance to look into it yet

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@subtle arrow ^^

thorn cobalt
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Is there a way to heal the Zigbee2MQTT network? Yesterday I needed to turn of my fusebox and lots of routers( hue lights) where powered off for about 3 hours. After turning the switch back on things like hue motions sensors are acting weird and the network is slow

subtle arrow
tropic depot
mellow geode
# crimson dust Changed battery in 4 IKEA controllers (Been dead for a while) and now 3 units sh...

So the 255% is an issue with some IKEA controllers and the latest firmware. Quirks are also a bit limited by the fact that they can't match per firmware/version yet, as the signature is the same otherwise. It doesn't impact functionality though. (Previous firmwares needed to have their percentage doubled)
The remote with 16% should also update at some point. You can check if it's on a different firmware though.

fair mountain
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these Inovelli switches have suspiciously low LQI

crimson dust
mellow geode
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There's no visual feedback of the update. It's only in debug logs at the moment.

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Do note that newer IKEA remote firmware versions no longer allow binding to groups, but only direct binding to multiple lights.
I don't think it should be an issue though

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The newer firmware versions are based on a much newer EZSP version. Although the ikea_provider isn't up-to-date anymore, as it still uses the TRADFRI URL for updates.

thorn cobalt
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Checked my logs because of the slow and unresponsive z2m network and it has "failed with status '(0xc7: NWK_TABLE_FULL)' (expected '(0x00: SUCCESS)'))'" al over the file? Have around 150 devices added

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is this something wich can be fixed?

sour shadow
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What coordinator are you using, and what firmware version is it using?

thorn cobalt
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Zigbee2MQTT version
1.30.3 commit: 24c6b2e
Coordinator type
zStack3x0
Coordinator revision
20221226

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its the sonoff dongle P

sour shadow
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That's old old firmware

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There have been many updates, some of which are explicitly for the message you're seeing

thorn cobalt
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does updating my coordinator requires repairing all the devices?

sour shadow
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TL/DR ||no||

neon orbit
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Not sure if this is a hardware/zigbee or energy question but I'll try it here first, I had to unplug my smart socket from the wall cause of some changes and plugged it back in but now HomeAssistant says that the data is unavailable but in Z2MQTT it still shows data being registered. It was working for a month at least. This is the smart socket https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TS011F_plug_1.html#tuya-ts011f_plug_1

The LQI of the smart socket is 138 highest of all.
So in devices it shows Sensors "unavailable" and the Diagnostic ones as well.
When I go to Z2MQTT dashboard it shows the state changing and updating correctly.

Seems to me that the connection with HA is interrupted but I am not sure how to troubleshoot this or reconnect, any points anyone?

iron flower
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Evening everyone. I'm hoping that I can come to you all for some assistance with getting an Ikea Styrbar remote and some Tradfri bulbs set up in HA. I can currently either get the little remote connected to my Zigbee adapter on my HA host OR link the remote up to the Tradfri bulbs I've got. I can't seem to figure out how to link the remote to both the bulbs and HA. (I'm using ZHA here)

flint needle
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Hi friends, feeling a little lost on smart switches.

Looking to get my first one set up in the place of a dumb single gang switch. I'd like a 2+ button smart switch though – one directly controlling the light fixture it's wired to and another that wirelessly switches on smart lights.

My options are limited to switches without a neutral wire. Any recommendations?

fair mountain
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Anyone experience issues with setting the reporting time period on a Sengled switch?

dire crag
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does zigbee interfare with wifi because we have alot of wifi aps near by

fair mountain
dire crag
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so would i be better with z-wave

fair mountain
onyx briar
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You can bind with ZHA but it's really difficult to get the timing right

fair mountain
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one automation 🙂

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use choose.

onyx briar
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Oh! I need to look into that

fair mountain
onyx briar
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Aha

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Thank you, this will help simplify some of my automations

fair mountain
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I have a couple different types of switches so I have a script for each of them similiar to that

fair mountain
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Hrm. Interesting behaviour I am seeing here.

Switch bound to group
Group is bound to four lights
Switch press power off, individual lights show as off but the group doesn't update.

iron flower
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Thanks for the advice there. I found some blueprints that should help with that part, my problem is that I can't get the bulbs to pair with the ZigBee stick yet

hybrid cloud
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i would also check with a wifi scanner, cause it may not be as much interferene as you think

dire crag
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the wifi ap,s have to have auto channel mode that's how the i.t. manager wants them at the organization I volunteer at

hybrid cloud
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L manager

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zigbee channel 15 is the most common channel and the one supported by most devices, which is right around where wifi channels 3 and 4 are

dire crag
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yeah the ap,s are changing channels constantly so does that mean they might interfere

hybrid cloud
dire crag
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they do 2.4ghz and 6ghz

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what do I do in the situation if I cant make the ap,s not use a certain channel

hybrid cloud
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if you experience interference, you can channel the zigbee channel. but because not all devices follow the zigbee stardard to a t, some devices may not support the channels outside the default channel 15

dire crag
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will the ap,s interfere if they see something useing that channel and it switches channels to stay away from it

hybrid cloud
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but also grab a wifi scanner and check, the most common 2.4ghz channels are 1, 6, and 11, and because zigbee channel 15 is right smack dab in the middle of 1 and 6, its less likely to be interefered with

hybrid cloud
dire crag
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okay

hybrid cloud
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your best bet if youre worried about wifi interference is to download a wifi analyzer app and see which channels are being used

dire crag
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okay thanks im guessing it uses all 2.4 bands the ap,s

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we have automatic channel changing evevy 12 hours

hybrid cloud
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its unlikely it uses all bands as most wifi devices stick to channels 1, 6, and 11

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again, your best bet if you actually want to know is to check, rather than speculating

deft bane
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for some reason the id of my sonoff dongle thing keeps changing so sometimes my zigbee2mqtt doesn't work because it can't connect to it. is there any way to set two id's in the config like x id or y id?

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and not involving changing the firmware because i've tried that and didn't succeed

sour shadow
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You should use the /dev/serial/by-id/ path

thorn cobalt
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Wich way do I need to go for flashing an update for my sonoff dongle P the last thing is to do something wrong (150 +devices) and start over currently have 20221226 i dont want to erase

sour shadow
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Just follow the instructions

hybrid cloud
hybrid cloud
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whew mmwave sensors are so sensitive, mine activates when i walk by the closer door lmao

deft bane
sour shadow
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No, exactly like that

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It sounded like you were using /dev/tty*

deft bane
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yea but sometimes it's changing

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because now it's this

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but sometimes it changes to something with sonoff

sour shadow
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That's ... weird, and points to either you're using a VM, or the stick being faulty

deft bane
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not the vm, so i guess the second one

sour shadow
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I mean, it's a Sonoff... the odds are pretty damn good (that it's faulty)

deft bane
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yea lol

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any recommendations for alternatives?

sour shadow
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For ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?

hybrid cloud
deft bane
ocean cloak
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Man like slowly every one of my Hue motion sensors is going to shit. It's so frustrating. They drop off the network and then when I re-pair them with Z2M they connect, but then never report any information. This first happened earlier last year with one of them, now others are doing it too

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I replaced the batteries in this one that's dying now just a month or two ago

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It's like after I replace the batteries they start acting up like this

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Anyone else run into anything like this or hear about this problem?

fair mountain
hybrid cloud
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me trying to ask chatgpt things just for the lulz:

The term "EMG" stands for "End-Device Management

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🤔

ocean cloak
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I've tried taking out and putting batteries back in and also doing a hard reset and pairing again

ocean cloak
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I got these cuz they had a low timeout and temp sensors. But the temp sensors don't really update often enough to be of use and now with mmwave I don't really need the low timeouts.

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I might just go back to getting P1's

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Was that distance glitch ever worked out with the P1's?

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT

hybrid cloud
scarlet gust
hybrid cloud
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wait isnt inovelli and established company why are they doing a kickstarter lmao....ahem sorry, an indiegogo campain

fair mountain
hybrid cloud
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i think switchbot did that too for their blind tilt

fair mountain
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I bought 24 of their switches and they are crap

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have totally destroyed my zigbee network performance

hybrid cloud
scarlet gust
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its an easy way to derisk the launch

hybrid cloud
scarlet gust
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yeah so nice idea but idk if it'll make sense for our switch locations

hybrid cloud
scarlet gust
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bummer

hybrid cloud
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oh i didnt realize this one was a switch too

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actually seems like a cool idea but it obviously requires that your switch is placed optimally

ocean cloak
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It's a tubezb coordinator

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Why did you switch? I thought cc was better

hybrid cloud
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iirc the sililabs ones are based on a newer something

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also some theoretically support thread

ocean cloak
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i see

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Yeah I've had this coordinator from the start with these hue motion sensors

hybrid cloud
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cant speak for pfak, but i switched to the skyconnect for the multipan (which i currently have enabled but dont use)

ocean cloak
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I want to like them but I don't think I'm going to buy or recommend them anymore

hybrid cloud
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although to be honest, i feel like this sensor has been more stable than my sonoff one efver was

hybrid cloud
fair mountain
hybrid cloud
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although im surprised your not having good luck with the sensor, i heard their stuff was at least reliable

ocean cloak
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I have 3 of them, one of them I even got Hue to replace but after not too long even the replacement had the same issue

hybrid cloud
fair mountain
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I have like 7 SML001 and SML003

ocean cloak
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They fall off the network, re-pair, but then never send any updates. Like wtf?

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It's so frustrating

fair mountain
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I had issues with EMG (SkyConnect), but they are fine with CC

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Try out a CC stick for them

hybrid cloud
ocean cloak
fair mountain
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I was running CC for like two years, switched to an EMG coordinator.. Hue motion sensors started dropping off..

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interesting

ocean cloak
fair mountain
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everyone has different problems 😄

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i am still wondering if I should have gone with z-wave

ocean cloak
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Only issues I had was when I was trying to do the presence reset hack on the original ones

hybrid cloud
fair mountain
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I would not put Aqara and reliable in the same category 😄

hybrid cloud
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ones been great the other not so much

ocean cloak
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All my aqara stuff has been great

hybrid cloud
ocean cloak
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Only problem which I'm not sure if it is a problem is that they don't re organize the mesh

hybrid cloud
ocean cloak
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Most of my stuff is aqara. I have some vibration sensors which have worked great. The temperature sensors have been flawless

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And a ton of the original motion sensors and 1 or 2 P1s

hybrid cloud
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my biggest gripe about the temp sensors is they refuse to update too soon if theres no a significant change

ocean cloak
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Which had range issues, but I don't know if that was fixed? I've been relying a lot on mmwave

hybrid cloud
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its fine most of the time but i set up a new automation to measure change in humidity over 5 minutes and when the sensor doesnt update for 30, well...

ocean cloak
hybrid cloud
ocean cloak
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I mean if the sensor doesn't update then you can just assume there hasn't been a change, no?

hybrid cloud
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actually im wondering now if it batches reports and sends them all in one chunk or if im just seeng some wierd visual thing

hybrid cloud
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so today, the sensor didnt pick it up for like 10 mintues and then "skyrocketed"

ocean cloak
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Wait when you shower the humidity raises 1%??

hybrid cloud
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for like 99% of things it honestly doesnt matter

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and it feels like it reports better than it did when i was using smartthings

ocean cloak
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Because I just put one in my bathroom and am about to measure the same thing and even if I have the door open while showering the humidity change is huge

hybrid cloud
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is like 1% per 5 minutes

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sorry 1% per minute

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taken as an average over a 5 minute period lol

ocean cloak
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That seems really low. Try situating the sensor closer?

hybrid cloud
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the sensor is on the opposite side of my tiny ass apartment

ocean cloak
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I'm seeing like 15% hike in 30 seconds

hybrid cloud
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but its main purpose is for something else, its moy only temp sensor with humidity in it

hybrid cloud
ocean cloak
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The sensor is in the bathroom though.

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Yeah man you're gonna get false positives if you're trying to use something that's across the house and looking at such a small change

hybrid cloud
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i mean i take decently long shower and despite it being pretty f ar away the sensor usually jumps 20% by the time im out of the shower

hybrid cloud
ocean cloak
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Yeah same, same with my gf too

hybrid cloud
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plus im still testing it, rn its just so that an alarm doesnt go off while im in the shower

ocean cloak
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The sensors are cheap, I'd just buy another one and put it in your bathroom

hybrid cloud
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nah 90% thats insane

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i believe it tho

ocean cloak
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Btw, don't use an automation for that. There's a rate of change sensor you can use. I have another sensor attached to my dishwasher that uses temp rate of change to determine when it's turned on

# 
- platform: statistics
  name: Dishwasher temperature 5 min rate of change
  entity_id: sensor.dishwasher_environment_temperature
  state_characteristic: change
  sampling_size: 20
  max_age: 00:05
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Then I use another sensor with this template to determine when to turn it on:
{{ states('sensor.dishwasher_temperature_5_min_rate_of_change')|float(0) > 0.85 }}

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It always runs for the same amount of time and I couldn't see any reliable patterns for temp drop

hybrid cloud
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i had looked at the statistics integration too, but derivative worked first and i was too lazy to wait

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you usehumidity to determine when your dishwasher is on?

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er well temp

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or youre saying you tried but it didnt work

ocean cloak
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It works for turning on, but not for turning off. But it runs for the same amount of time so I just have it turn off after a certain amount of time

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auto_off:
  hours: 3
  minutes: 40
delay_off:
  hours: 1
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template binary sensor

scarlet gust
ocean cloak
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The delay_off is so when the template isn't true it doesn't turn off

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Basically it starts when the temp rises at a high rate and then turns off after 3h 40m

hybrid cloud
hybrid cloud
ocean cloak
hybrid cloud
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i like in an apartment complex...next to the laundry machine. i could probably put the sensor on my wall to see when the washer was running lmfao

fair mountain
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Is the LQI on Zigbee2mqtt an average of all devices that something is connected to?

ocean cloak
inner dew
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Got my ZBDongle installed. HA discovered it and I ran through the GUI install, it's put itself on channel 11, should I be concerned about that? I guess it's because I have some Ikea bulbs/switches that are still configured to the old Tradfri Hub, which presumably was on channel 15? Should I go round and reset them all, then reset/rediscover the dongle and hope it picks 15?

austere patio
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In the ZHA diagnostics JSON, there is a section called energy_scan. What does it show for your environment? For 11 to be picked over 15, 20, and 25, all of the other channels must be really noisy

mighty river
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hey, i'm looking for an inline dimmer with 1 connection for a light and 2 for physical switches

any reccomendations? those i found only have 1 for a switch

inner dew
austere patio
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You don't need to enable logging for it

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It's the button right above that, "Download diagnostics"

inner dew
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"energy_scan": {
"11": 95.69133648577223,
"12": 98.78775542226437,
"13": 97.04162534718327,
"14": 95.12234809209261,
"15": 85.82097888710312,
"16": 78.25348754651363,
"17": 82.35373987514762,
"18": 73.50699819621309,
"19": 75.96022321405563,
"20": 75.96022321405563,
"21": 70.89933442360993,
"22": 70.89933442360993,
"23": 59.15797905332195,
"24": 46.26944564832987,
"25": 36.830390267097734,
"26": 78.25348754651363

austere patio
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Have you previously used the stick with Zigbee2MQTT?

inner dew
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I have not. It's brand new

austere patio
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Hmm, channel 11 shouldn't've been chosen. If you haven't added any devices, delete and re-add the stick and make sure to select "erase network settings and form a new network".

inner dew
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ok, doing that now

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yay, channel 15! thanks @austere patio 🙂

austere patio
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25 is a much better choice, I wonder why your environment changes enough for this to happen

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If you download the diagnostics once more, do the scan results show something similar? They're generated each time the JSON is.

rapid dawnBOT
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@inner dew I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
austere patio
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Odd. If you do want to enable debug logging and try it once more, PM me the log. You aren't using multi-PAN firmware with the multiprotocol addon, right? Just the normal Zigbee firmware?

inner dew
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I haven't changed anything yet, so it's whatever the GUI config does by default

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(PM'd you :))

inner dew
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ok, all working now. Got the Tradfri On/Off Switch triggering a light group on/off via ZHA. Thanks everyone for advice 🙂

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The Light Group isn't Zigbee, which is why I needed this setup in the first place

hybrid cloud
hybrid cloud
inner dew
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yes, the number is how high the occupancy is on that channel, the lower the number, the clearer the channel

hollow tundra
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Hey! I'm a new user to home assistant and zigbee. I got a conbee II and hooked it up with my devices and it was working great. But last night I did a restart of my VM to do some changes and now ZHA won't connect to my conbeeII. It's giving me an error that says "Error setting up entry for zha" and then another log error that says "Couldn't start deCONZ = dresden elektronik deCONZ protocol: ConBee I/II, RaspBee I/II coordinator (attempt 1 of 3)" and then another one that says "No response to 'Command.read_parameter' command with seq id '0x06'" I've tried searching online and tried updating firmware on conbee, updating virtual box extensions, and moving the conbee far away from any other devices and still no luck. It looks like the VM is seeing the conbee as COM port 3. If I unplug it or try to start it up without it connected the VM gives me an error that it was disconnected. Looks like maybe zha just isn't seeing it. Anybody got any recommendations? Thank you in advance! 🙂

iron flower
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The first thing I'd try is to make sure you're still giving the VM access to the usb port. (I gave up running a docker version of HA due to the difficulty of getting my usb device into the container and just dumped the HA OS on a raspberry pi 3 that I had sitting in a drawer because of issues with getting usb devices into virtualized environments)

hollow tundra
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Would that just be through enabling it in the vm? Or somewhere within windows?

hollow tundra
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So it's definitely passing through. I uninstalled ZHA and then reinstalled it and it found the conbee II and resynced all my devices and controlled them. However, I did a restart just to make sure everything was good and then the same errors popped back up. Seems like ZHA just doesn't like to stay connected?

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Resolved it, looks like I had deconz running in the background and it was intercepting the signal. Just an update for anyone that might have had the same issue

tall tusk
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I have several Philips hue bulbs (no bridge, using HA OS with Sky connect hub) but HA doesn't seem to be able to control the RGB side just dimming on and off. what am i missing?

grizzled kettle
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Maybe expand a bit on what "doesn't seem to be able to control" means? The button is grayed out? You can't find the interface for it? It has an error message? The device ignores the command?

tall tusk
grizzled kettle
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Sorry if this is too dumb of a question, but you're certain you bought a bulb that has RGB right? They don't all.
In devtools, what does it say for the light entity under supported_color_modes ?

raw lynx
#

i think i just rekt my zigbee network

i went into hardware and enabled multiprotocol support for my skyconnect device and now my ZHA instance refuses to start. trying to delete and re-add the integration and now it won't choose my skyconnect without erroring out

austere patio
opaque helm
#

Does anyone have tuya zigbee network only or close to that? I'm thinking about it since it's way cheaper than others

sour shadow
#

Yeah... it's cheaper for a reason

hybrid cloud
wary hemlock
#

Hello folks. Just a quick question: is it possible to install a conbee usb stick (with zha integration for example) right next to a sonoff zigbee stick (with zigbee2mqtt) or do they interfere? same HA instance (docker). Thanks 🙂

sour shadow
#

Well, hopefully both are on USB extension cables

#

Keep some separation and it'll work... generally a bad idea to run multiple meshes, but it'll work

wary hemlock
#

Thank you very much for your quick reply - appreciated. Well then I'll try to use z2m to cover all my needs and only add the ZHA integration (and deconz stick) if really needed 🙂

stoic musk
#

Anyone running zwavejs2mqtt and/or zigbee2mqtt on docker with debian host?

Recent Debian update removed devices from path /dev/serial/by-id/<human_readable_name> and now I see /dev/serial/by-path/pci-0000:01:1b.0-usb-0:1:1.0 (I'm running docker vm on proxmox) .

I had to use the /dev/ttyACM0 path but am worried during reboot it might switch

sour shadow
thorn cobalt
#

Yesterday I've flashed firmware on the sonoff dongle P from 20221226 to what I think is the latest 20230410 after having many NWK table full errors, but now (SRSP - AF - dataRequest after 6000ms)) is appearing and the network is dead and only funtion slowly after a restart

sour shadow
#

That's the dev firmware, maybe try the latest stable first?

thorn cobalt
#

it's probably me but whats the stable version

sour shadow
#

Which is linked from the Z2M docs

raw lynx
#

anyone running zigbee2mqtt with skyconnect have the correct implementation details?

thorn cobalt
#

20221226

soft saddle
#

Can anyone recommend a Zigbee/Z-Wave tilt sensor that reports granular angle and not just up/down? I have an automation for a wall TV mount that keeps my TV above the fireplace but able to come down in front of the fireplace for viewing, but right now I have to just send an IR signal for a period of time and hope it gets the mount all the way up/down. I want to install a sensor and just repeat the up/down command until the tilt is all the way down/up based on angle.

raw lynx
#

my instance is failing to start

thorn cobalt
sour shadow
#

Maybe you too have a faulty Sonoff dongle

sour shadow
raw lynx
#

and my serial is set as the following

port: /dev/ttyUSB1
adapter: ezsp

sour shadow
#

That looks, other than the fact that you're not using /dev/serial/by-id/..., ok

raw lynx
#

if i have my dongle enabled with multiprotocol will that stuff some things up?

sour shadow
#

Yes

#

You need to be running the multiprotocol add-on and point Z2M at the IP and port

raw lynx
#

ah, how would i find the ip and port?

i went to terminal and did ls -l /dev/serial/by-id but that only gives me the physical location

sour shadow
#

Well, point the add-on at the stick

raw lynx
#

right so keep /dev/ttyUSB1

sour shadow
#

Not for Z2M

#

The add-on settings I'd guess tell you what you need for Z2M/ZHA

#

Stick <- USB -> add-on <-- network --> Z2M

raw lynx
#

alright you lost me now lol

#

is it better to just disable multiprotocol (if that's even possible?)

sour shadow
#

Or use a stick Z2M supports fully

raw lynx
#

oh it doesn't support skyconnect?

sour shadow
#

You clearly didn't read the Z2M docs

raw lynx
#

nail -> head

sour shadow
#

The EZSP sticks are experimental

raw lynx
#

now what confuses me abnout this is they say to add serial:
adapter: ezsp to your configuartion .yaml but then why does z2m have a port configuration as well?

#

does it matter where i put my commands?

sour shadow
#

Commands?

#

Are you talking about YAML?

raw lynx
#

yes

sour shadow
#

Because ... YAML is YAML, the rules always apply

#

If you're using the Z2M add-on just fill in the adapter box

raw lynx
#

okay so i shouldn't be adding commands to configuation.yaml for the z2m addon

sour shadow
#

Which confguration.yaml?

#

There's one for Z2M

#

There's one for HA

raw lynx
#

only add them to the configuration section of the z2m addon

sour shadow
#

They're different

raw lynx
#

yes

sour shadow
#

Fill in the serial details (e.g. port of your USB coordinator). Format can be found here, but skip the initial serial: indent. e.g.:

raw lynx
#

right so that's what i did

sour shadow
#

Except that your stick is in multi-protocol mode

raw lynx
#

but the other link you sent said not to point the USB device but rather just
adapter: ezsp

sour shadow
#

No

#

It says if you can't get it to start add this

#

Doesn't say don't add port:

raw lynx
#

If Zigbee2MQTT fails to start, try adding the following to your configuration.yaml

serial:
adapter: ezsp

sour shadow
#

And you still need the port line

raw lynx
#

ah so you gotta read between the lines

#

so we're back to square 0.1

i've got my serial configured as

port: /dev/ttyUSB1
adapter: ezsp

#

but in this case bc it's multiprotocol i need to add additional information to the port section in order to point towards the "zigbee" side of my dongle

sour shadow
#

Which is a network address

raw lynx
#

do you know how i would find that?

austere patio
#

It should always be tcp://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999

raw lynx
#

so would i just amend my serial configuration to something like

port: /dev/ttyUSB1/tcp://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999
adapter: ezsp

austere patio
#

No, /dev/ttyUSB1 needs to go

raw lynx
#

oh so just nuke that completely and go

port: tcp://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999
adapter: ezsp

austere patio
#

If you're using multi-PAN then Z2M never will talk to the stick

#

It only talks to the multiprotocol addon

raw lynx
#

no if that's the case do i still need ezsp?

yes because it's still talking to that kind of stick reguardless of the fact that it's passing through an addon

austere patio
#

ezsp tells Z2M what protocol to speak. You need that.

#

Well no, Z2M has no concept of stick here, it only sees a TCP server. The addon is the only thing that knows about a serial port and the only thing actually communicating with the stick.

raw lynx
#

port: tcp://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999
adapter: ezsp

is my new serial configuration in the addon

still fails to start but now we're getting somewhere

https://pastebin.com/7juLyYu6

#

mqtt issue not authorized i think i had previously configured my mqtt with a username and password for another devices using mqtt (genmon)

#

in the mqtt section of z2m do i just need to add that account?

user:
password:

#

or does it want like full spelling

username:
password:

#

ooo okay now it's not unhappy with mqtt

now we're at something else.

#

failure send network init

sullen pasture
#

Are there any zigbee rgbww bulbs that provide 2550 lumens? I am trying to find a replacement for a 150w equivalent wifi bulb and can't seem to find anything above 1000 lumens

thorn kelp
#

I'm not aware of any rgbww bulbs over 9W/~850Lm

#

but, would love to know if they exist if you can find one.

stiff surge
#

I'm looking to get Zigbee on my Raspberry Pi and have seen Conbee II Zigbee-controller. Would that work?

sour shadow
#

That's ... not the worst choice, or the best

rapid dawnBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

sour shadow
#

If you're going to use ZHA then the SkyConnect, or anything else based on EZSP (and is relatively recent) is a good choice

stiff surge
sour shadow
#

First pick ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

sullen pasture
stiff surge
thorn kelp
# sullen pasture I wonder why

Limited market since most people are fine with <1000Lm. the market of people wanting >1000Lm and rgb must be very limited otherwise the market would have something for sale.

#

This isn't the ideal solution by any means, but you can get as much light as you want if you do something with SK6812 + WLED

sour shadow
rapid dawnBOT
#

@stiff surge There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

thorn kelp
sour shadow
#

The answer is ||not deCONZ||

thorn kelp
#

I'm far from an expert but in my experience the consensus opinion seems to favour z2m

stiff surge
#

Thanks! That makes more sense!

sour shadow
#

It's mostly about whether you want all your eggs in one basket (ZHA) or not (Zigbee2MQTT)

thorn kelp
#

personally i run zha but that's only because it was the default when i setup HA and now 60 devices deep and dont wanna re-pair them all, otherwise i'd setup z2m

sullen pasture
thorn kelp
#

sure but is there enough demand.

#

idk, i'd buy one. you'd buy one. that's a start haha. not enough to sustain a new SKU though.

sullen pasture
thorn kelp
#

There's all sorts of high output (>15W) regular e27 led bulbs, but the selection of >9W is significantly less than =<9W

thorn kelp
#

The people in this discord represent a small fraction of the "Smart home product" marketplace. I would imagine (again, my opinion, no data to back this up) the average smarthome consumer is using normie shit like Hue, Tuya (/other china brands) and not doing fancy HA/Smartthings/HOmekit/etc stuff

sullen pasture
thorn kelp
#

you're not wrong, but you're assuming that (the average) consumer(s) are informed enough to know zigbee is easier than wifi in that regard.

sour shadow
#

Just look at how many people fall for Tuya's marketing...

thorn kelp
#

I couldn't imagine having motion and lighting on 2 clouds and then marrying them using smartthings or something.

#

it'd be like 10sec from IRL motion to IRL lights on.

#

Anyways, tl;dr the light you want doesn't exist because the people making these lights think they won't sell enough OR they're focusing on other SKUs before getting around to this one.

#

I'm sure you could sell a couple underwater basket weaving courses... idk if there's sufficient demand to open Underwater Basket Weaving University

frozen mountain
#

I've just added a zigbee device using the ZHA integration. Device is a LED dimmer (1 channel only) but is reported by ZHA as a color dimmer. How can I change the light type of this device (only brightness and no color or colortemp mode)?

mellow geode
frozen mountain
#

no, device registers as a Sunricher HK-ZD-DIM-A

mellow geode
stoic musk
frozen mountain
#

bug report or device support request?

mellow geode
#

Device Support Request would be better -- doesn't really matter though

atomic sleet
#

Quick question out of confusion since I can't filter though all the chats over the years about this Zigbee:
Can the ConBee ii gateway for Zigbee 3.0 devices?
All I want is a cloudless Thermostat/Hygrometer but now i'm beginning to look at what chips different gateways have xD

fair mountain
#

I just received my dodgy Zigbee lights from aliexpress. They paired in 1 second vs. inovelli which takes dozens of tries to pair.

hybrid cloud
#

Third time's the charm

atomic sleet
#

Ty for the answer, but then I don't get what ZigBee 3.0 is. That's fine tho, the thing I've found is on the list

hybrid cloud
#

ZigBee is what the conbee uses to talk to the devices

#

Kind of like Wi-Fi but for smart home devices

atomic sleet
#

right, a protocol, correct? It was just last time I looked at gateways there wasn't all this talk about 3.0. Can't really find a clean cutoff date for people talking about it to know if I just didn't see it or forgot

hybrid cloud
#

Yeah a protocol, ZigBee is really old now though, it's still being used but now there's something called thread which is the successor to zigbee

atomic sleet
#

Oh neat! I'm guessing the ZigBee wild west was a little too wild? :p
I'm guessing that hubs have no prob running both if ya don't need to change out your gear?

hybrid cloud
hollow forum
#

Did you get your E1 working right? I can't seem to get any luck, even with the custom quirk

wide grotto
fair mountain
#

Anyone run into a problem where a Sonoff stick doesnt have the proper manufacturer and device ID written out to it?

#

so it just shows as a generic silicon labs device in /dev/serial/by-id

#

bad one:

[936219.801877] usb 1-1.3: Product: Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus
[936219.801890] usb 1-1.3: Manufacturer: Silicon Labs
[936219.801902] usb 1-1.3: SerialNumber: 0001

good one:

[936361.120124] usb 1-1.3: Product: Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus
[936361.120137] usb 1-1.3: Manufacturer: ITead
[936361.120149] usb 1-1.3: SerialNumber: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

molten linden
#

I don't think they originally did it

#

so based on age it may not have it.

#

can dig back through Hedda's issues but I think he prompted them to do it - to allow for auto discovery with usb/zha

#

if you want to add it (or something else) you can use the cp210x-cfg tool

lofty whale
#

anyone knows how to use a Moes zigbee remote control in HA?
I can get it registered in zigbee2mqtt but it doesnt seem to work

dreamy finch
#

I can't add to the ZHA, it is adopted, but it doesn't appear the entities don't appear

#

I didn't find any device handler for it

#

it is a zigbee siren by _TZE200_nlrfgpny, powered by solar energy

crisp pewter
#

Anyone who can help me out with my custom quirk problem? I added it but it is not showing up on the device

# 
zha:
  database_path: /config/zigbee.db
  enable_quirks: true
  custom_quirks_path: /config/custom_zha_quirks/
# 
...

from zhaquirks.const import (
...
SizePrefixedSimpleDescriptor(endpoint=1, profile=260, device_type=2080, device_version=1, input_clusters=[0, 1, 3, 4, 4096, 57345], output_clusters=[3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 25, 4096])
        MODEL: "TS004F",
...

I shortened the code in order to avoid clutter but I can show the full code if you want

# 
Device info
TS004F
by _TZ3000_rco1yzb1
Connected via Zigbee Coordinator
Zigbee info
IEEE: 2c:11:65:ff:fe:69:19:ec
Nwk: 0x8e19
Device Type: EndDevice
LQI: 132
RSSI: -67
Last Seen: 2023-05-03T16:20:54
Power Source: Battery or Unknown```
tropic depot
#

if you enable debug on ZHA and restart it will tell you why it doesn't match

crisp pewter
#

Ah thanks I will try that

crisp pewter
#

Man it was actually more stupid then that.. apparently my config file in my docker was mounting the wrong location

#

😅

obsidian knoll
#

Hi all, anyone got any of QBKG04LM configured with your HA via zigbee2mqtt? I've googled for a while now, but can't find anyone who's seemed to have the same issue as me. I used to run hubitat, and was getting temperature readings of them, but since I moved to HA (more than a year already now), it basically can't be detected by HA. Wondering if anyone might have a solution for this? Temperature is not showing on attributes. I've also got the bigger brother of this which is QBKG03LM, and it is showing temperature attribute.

#

Does anyone know if this is a known limitation?

#

Ta

onyx briar
#

@dreamy finch US $10.09 65%OFF | Tuya Smart Zigbee 3.0 Gateway Hub Bridge Smart Home Timer Schedule Smart Life Remote Control Work With Alexa Google Home
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMDtvqy this is the coordinator that I use for my tuya devices. I've found that they don't seem to be totally compatible with HA or introduce weird instability

#

I have some of their CO2 monitors which work great but update every second so my network starts to bog down after a while

elfin void
#

hello good people, am trying to change a cluster attribute on zigbee device but write the attribute it does not save. anything am doing wrong

sullen dirge
#

Anyone an idea what i'm doing wrong?
I'm starting up my Zigbee2MQTT LXC. I'm perfectly able to ping the VM from my desktop as well. Starting up Zigbee2MQTT gives me:

Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-04 10:24:41: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://192.168.5.210:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-04 10:24:41: Connected to MQTT server
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-05-04 10:24:41: Zigbee2MQTT started!

But i can't reach the frontend of my Zigbee2MQTT on http://ip_address:9442

junior viper
#

Hi all, do anyone use Alarmo with keypad?

junior viper
sullen dirge
#

But now i have another issue. Zigbee2mqtt is working fine, but after a single reboot i'm getting the Error: Resource temporarily unavailable Cannot lock port issue

tall tusk
#

What are peoples favorite US compatible smart smart switch and\or dimmer?

rapid dawnBOT
#

@distant pier I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
distant pier
jaunty terrace
#

hi to all i run into an issue todat after updating ha to 2023.5, zigbee is not operational at all

#

Couldn't start ZNP = Texas Instruments Z-Stack ZNP protocol: CC253x, CC26x2, CC13x2 coordinator
|Error setting up entry ZigBee Gateway for zha

#

reverting to an older backup solves the issue, updating again the issue apears again

#

does anyone have any info on that?

hybrid cloud
distant pier
jaunty terrace
#

@distant pier thank you!!

rapid dawnBOT
#

@coarse radish I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
coarse radish
#

any help please

sour shadow
#

it's a known Debian bug

sour shadow
coarse radish
# 
root@R720ProxMox:~# uname -a
Linux R720ProxMox 5.13.19-6-pve #1 SMP PVE 5.13.19-15 (Tue, 29 Mar 2022 15:59:50 +0200) x86_64 GNU/Linux
sour shadow
#

Proxmox is Debian based

coarse radish
#

so I read your link, not sure what is the fix

sour shadow
#

Looks like you need to edit /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-serial.rules - see the top reply

#

The reply by LordGravewish gives the full details

coarse radish
#

seems to be not working

coarse radish
#

OKay able to fix it thanks for your help

junior viper
wanton river
#

If it uses a piezo speaker then a small dab of hotglue will do wonders

#

Hello. I am currently running my HA on a raspberry pi 4 (8gb).
I believe it is the HA OS I am running.

Using Z2M with a snonoff Dongle-E (on usb extension cord). I have a Conbee II i used before for ZHA, currently not in use.

The Dongle-E is giving me some issues and I might get a Dongle-P or similar recommended adapter instead. Can I still use the Dongle-E as a router or are there any things to i can avoid to improve my experience using the experimental Dongle-E?

austere patio
#

What issues?

wanton river
#

Losing connection with Hue based devices, I believe I am also losing connection to the dongle itself or if something with Z2M is going awry

junior viper
wanton river
#

I am currently running my Hue bulbs over Z2M and also trying to integrate some Ikea Trådfri motion sensors (E1745)

They seem to have connected to a Group i made with 3 Hue bulbs and I am unsure of how to stop them controlling the bulbs outside of Z2M

#

This seems to be unrelated to the underlying Zigbee network and more a direct connection to the bulbs. Any way I can stop this from happening?

#

Only happens to a Group of 3 bulbs in the room, not a standalone bulb.

sullen pasture
wanton river
#

I had no use for them yet as I am waiting for some in-wall relays for them to control. The issue is when the light turns off from the motion sensors Z2M still displays the Hue bulb as "on" and no command is sent in the Z2M log

#

its 3 seperate motion sensors

#

I am currently looking into if it has something to do with the Hue bulbs having Group ID 0 and the IKEA sensors binding to group 0 by default or similar. I am unable to sent the unbind command from the GUI atleast

#

Group 0 might explain why it is only those bulbs being affected

mighty river
#

Hi all, anyone familiar with SkyConnect debugging? Bought a new usb stick, installed ZHA, but unable to add/discover zigbee devices... had conbee II with phoscon before but I want to start from scratch without importing devices.

opaque helm
#

is possible to install zigbee2MQTT and start it before u connect dongle?

#

since frontend: true acts as a problem in config yaml file

mighty river
opaque helm
#

yeah, but I wanna have everything ready before dongle arrives

mighty river
#

so you suggest: uninstall zha, reboot, +zigbee2MQTT, +ZHA?

opaque helm
mighty river
#

oops

austere patio
mighty river
mighty river
austere patio
#

Can you download diagnostics for the ZHA integration and upload them somewhere (e.g. https://dpaste.org/ )?

wanton river
fair mountain
#

Does anyone here have a LinkTap water timer gateway?

fair mountain
#

I finally figured out the pairing issues with my Inovelli switches

haughty rover
#

So, I have this 18W RGBCW Zigbee Bulb (TS0505B by _TZ3210_r5afgmkl) which seems to be almost the same as this one (https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Avacom_TS0505B.html).
Color temp mode works fine, but when I switch to RGB mode the lights are super dim. Like it's ignoring the White channel completely or something.
It's driving me insane! Does anyone here have experience with this?

#

using ZHA

fair mountain
#

i.e. model

haughty rover
#

TS0505B by _TZ3210_r5afgmkl

fair mountain
tulip plover
#

Hey does anyone use the legacy lightify zigbee system? Mine was working fine up until a few days ago, and now HA can't see it anymore? It still works fine in the Lightify app. Just wondering if an update has broken this?

fair mountain
#

You can use custom_quirks_path to set the quirks path and then write your own @haughty rover

haughty rover
fair mountain
#

sorry i cant help you any further, i dont have the device and ive only written quirks for z2m 🙂

haughty rover
#

np!

fair mountain
#

Inovelli join issues: I have a LinkTap gateway that responds to all Zigbee join requests (even when it's not in join mode) with unsuccessful. This causes Inovelli switch to stop trying to join any Zigbee networks. Both behaviours are broken. Inovelli should fix their stuff and I've already contacted them, and I also contacted LinkTap.

austere patio
fair mountain
#

im not an expert, but it looks like its just responding to any join request with unsuccessufl 😄

#

and its not picked up by zigpy, zigpy doesnt think tis in Join mode when I do the scan with zigpy ..

finite grove
#

Hey all, i've got a samsung zigbee white bulb model LEEDARSON- Dimmable Bulb_ 8ZA-A806ST-Q4R that i don't seem to be able to get back into pairing mode
its not in smartthings anymore (its the last device i need to re-pair) and i had 13 other of the same bulbs that re-paired just fine

#

the docs say on/off at .5-2 second intervals 6 times, and that isn't doing it. i've also tried 10 times, longer/shorter times etc.'

#

the behavior i'm seeing is different than the other bulbs though, the other ones have more delay on startup after powering on, this one is on nearly instantaneously with a slight flicker when it comes on

#

it worked in smartthings prior to trying to re-pair it to HA

desert cloak
#

How should I bind Tradfri remote directly to a group of lights in zha (I knew how to do this with z2m). I made a group "Manage Zigbee device" but I can only add lights to it.

#

Found this instruction:

*You can bind a Tradfri remote directly to a Zigbee light group on Home Assistant ZHA integration by following these steps:

  • Create a group of the light(s) you want to control.
  • Go into the remote settings for the remote you want to bind to the light.
  • Click “Manage Clusters” and go to the bottom section: “Group Binding”.
  • Ignore what is above this section.
  • Press the button on the remote that you want to bind to the group.
  • Click “Bind” in the “Group Binding” section.
  • This should bind your Tradfri remote directly to your Zigbee light group*

But I can see no "Manage Clusters" selection anywhere.

#

It seems that I can only add and bind routers to a zha group, not end devices

hybrid cloud
desert cloak
#

I look at that but there was nothing I found interesting, why?

hybrid cloud
#

3 dots -> manage zigbee device -> bindings

desert cloak
#

yeah, tried that but does not show remotes on that list, only routers (bulbs) and the coordinator

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IEEE: 00:0d:6f:ff:fe:64:4e:96
Nwk: 0x84d5
Device Type: EndDevice
LQI: 255
RSSI: -42
Last Seen: 2023-05-05T15:17:43
Power Source: Battery or Unknown
Quirk: zhaquirks.ikea.fivebtnremote.IkeaTradfriRemote2

hybrid cloud
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are there no bindable clusters?

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listed with checkmark boxes?

desert cloak
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below the Bindable groups?

hybrid cloud
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yes

desert cloak
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Groups, Identify, LevelControl, LightLink, OnOff, Ota, ScenesCluster

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all are not checked

hybrid cloud
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so thats which cluster of the device you want to bind to whatever device you selected drop the dropdown

desert cloak
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I can only bind routers (bulbs) remotes are not shown there

hybrid cloud
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because you are on the device info page for the remote you want to bind

desert cloak
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Uh, you mean I just select the devices I want to bind with the remote?

hybrid cloud
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whether to select all or specific clusters on your remote, i do not know, but thats how you do it

desert cloak
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well, thanks. however does not work just keeps spinning the blue wait wheel.

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I will go back to z2m there it works easily

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odd. now it works somehow and still the spinning circle keeps on spinning

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thanks a lot

finite grove
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Hey all, i've got a samsung zigbee white bulb model LEEDARSON- Dimmable Bulb_ 8ZA-A806ST-Q4R that i don't seem to be able to get back into pairing mode
its not in smartthings anymore (its the last device i need to re-pair) and i had 13 other of the same bulbs that re-paired just fine
the docs say on/off at .5-2 second intervals 6 times, and that isn't doing it. i've also tried 10 times, longer/shorter times etc.'
the behavior i'm seeing is different than the other bulbs though, the other ones have more delay on startup after powering on, this one is on nearly instantaneously with a slight flicker when it comes on. it worked in smartthings prior to trying to re-pair it to HA

viral cipher
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migrated from z2m yesterday to zha because I didn't pay attention on a purchase and got some aqara sensors that aren't compatible with z2m...... wooh buddy, don't suppose there's a clever trick to setting entity IDs to non-garbage when you rename incoming entities?

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guess it doesn't matter, I learned now and I'll just deal with the dog shit ids for now and I will just be sure to actually set entity ID when I discover new entities moving forward

finite grove
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i'm guessing you could always forget the device and re-pair, but i'm not that familiar.

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you like the aqara? thinking about getting one

viral cipher
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I liked the price and availability of the sensors, I'm not completely sure I'm hooked on ZHA though, z2m management interface was nice, kinda wish I had a second radio and could just use both

finite grove
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everything i've got is ZHA already so that wouldn't be too big of a deal. i've got 2 of the skyconnect devices, been considering using the 2nd for matter/thread as the multiprotocol thing didn't work well

viral cipher
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mmhm, the aqara sensors are fairly well received in this community I think, so if they have something that's in your shopping list, they're worth considering, for sure

hybrid cloud
finite grove
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@hybrid cloud not that i'm finding, but thats kinda where my head was going. its behaving differently than the rest of the other devices that are the same

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its old enough i'm sure there's no warranty period left

hybrid cloud
hybrid cloud
viral cipher
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fair, I don't have enough experience to "review" other sensors, just go by what I read, I don't doubt that there is better when you look at the price comparisons

finite grove
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@hybrid cloud had it off for a day or so, no change

viral cipher
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Aren't there some bulbs that will reset if turned off/on a certain number of times in a period of time? Feel like I've read that before somewhere also

hybrid cloud
finite grove
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they were inexpensive so not a big deal, only issue is its in a room where i have like 14 of them and i don't want 1 bulb thats different....

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@viral cipher this is supposed to do that, but its behavior is different than the other bulbs of its type i have

viral cipher
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mmhm got it

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oh, I missed the second line of your orignal comment, my bad

finite grove
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so i'm pretty sure something is broke in it

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also, holy crap do i have more devices than i thought now that i have them all in one system

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15 zwave and 67 zigbee

viral cipher
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hehe, it adds up quick

hybrid cloud
hybrid cloud
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does anyone know how many child devices the skyconnect supports? i cant find anything about it

finite grove
hybrid cloud
finite grove
hybrid cloud
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bruh lmao

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this is mine, i only have 2 router devices

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most of my lights are sengled and theyre end devices for some reason

fair mountain
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@austere patio further to that, I got a response from LinkTap telling me that Inovelli should fix their switches:

"As shown below, after a Beacon Request is received by LinkTap Gateway, it sends a response with a unique EPID to the sender. What the sender should do first is filter out foreign messages based on the EPID (our water timer has implemented this function). Otherwise, a Zigbee end device might mistakenly join a foreign Zigbee Gateway.

According to the screenshot below, your Zigbee device didn't implement that function. Therefore it sent an "Association Request" to the LinkTap Gateway, which certainly sent back an "Unsuccessful" response."

hybrid cloud
# hybrid cloud this is mine, i only have 2 router devices

if you are curious, sengled does not repeat because they believe that smart bulbs can be turned off/on with normal switches. If they were part of the mesh, they would frequently destroy the mesh if they were turned off. Therefore, they do not repeat.
interesting logic behind this tho

finite grove
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i honestly agree with that

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my parents visit and ya, they use the switches in the rooms

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its part of why for the most part, i use smart switches anymore where i can, sadly i don't have neutrals everywhere

hybrid cloud
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this is why you need the lights to turn on before the can ever find where the switches are 😂

hybrid cloud
finite grove
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@hybrid cloud starting to get there, i'm loving now that i've moved fully to HA only that i can use my unifi protect cameras as motion sensors and do things with my lights

hybrid cloud
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ive thought about getting switch covers, but i live a lone so i honestly just ignore the lights

finite grove
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but some of that is why i'm interested in the aqara mmwave sensors

fair mountain
hybrid cloud
finite grove
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device type end device for sure

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now, my smartthings ones are routers

hybrid cloud
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when i started with smart stuff, it was the delay that really threw me off. i started with smartthings when it was all cloudbased,a nd i had to just start trusting the lights would turn on cause the delay was so long lmao. now that everything is local, delay is not long at all, but there is still a delay with some devices and it makes me wonder how someone who is use to the instantaneous response of a physical switch would react to a switch taking longer than expected to turn on

finite grove
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so, i've actually got a couple of zwave switches that even using the switch can be delayed if the lights are dimmed

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like, up to a second or 2 it feels like

hybrid cloud
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i dont know if its like this with most zigbee lights but the sengled ones take a hot second to establish initial connection if they havent been talked to in a while, probably betwen 250 to 500ms if i had to guess

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vs my light in my bedroom is running through tuya local, paired with the door sensor it seems to send the trigger to ha near instantly and then the tuya bulb turns on before ive even got the door 3 inches opn

fair mountain
hybrid cloud
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ill have to double check the logs, but i dont remember ever seeing anything about failed attempts to reach those lights (pretty sure that shows up with debug off)

half kelp
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Is there a best zigbee/zwave USB device for Home Assistant on Rpi4? Or at least which are the ones you should stay away from

rapid dawnBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

fair mountain
austere patio
carmine hamlet
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Incidentally, I had a similar issue with my Rainforest Eagle energy monitor that connects to my power meter over Zigbee. I could not get one Inovelli Blue switch to pair or even factory reset properly until I unplugged the Rainforest box

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I haven't collected a pcap for it, but it's possible that it's also trying to allow meters to join, even though it already has one connected

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I haven't had that issue with any other zigbee device, and easier joining/pairing is one of the things I really like about zigbee vs zwave

mighty river
austere patio
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This is the debug log. There is also a diagnostics button right by that, it has different information.

gleaming jay
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@molten linden ESPhome says Update Available for your POE coordinator, but I've been having a bit of strange behavior overall with HA and zigbee with the latest HA update (had to roll back the update), so want to be sure before I update the coordinator - does it sound right to you that a new update would be available/

molten linden
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That just means there is a new esphome version. Safe to ignore those as I am not able to regularly test every version so stick to one well tested one for long lengths of time

gleaming jay
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okay

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I only noticed it because i have an entity, binary_sensor.tubeszb_serial_connected, that started showing "unvailable"

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but zigbee in general all seems to be functioning fine, I think

dusky flax
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Can't really seem to figure this out. I've been looking into the Conbee II to finally throw out my smartthings hub and rid myself of being dependent on the cloud to control lights. I have a variety of different devices, and plan to add more dimmers, switches, outlets and thermostats. Fibaro seems to be a candidate, but it's not on the list of supported devices for conbee. However I do find references to people interested in using the Conbee with fibaro devices. Is it possible? I would kinda image that devices can implement a generic interface for their type (e.g. a switch has on/off), which could be triggered by any hub/server. Am I way off?

fair mountain
# austere patio "Foreign" in that context sounds like "not our brand", which doesn't work for pr...

I unplugged the LinkTap and the Inovelli switches join just fine.

TBH, they're BOTH at fault. Inovelli is trying to join a network that shouldnt be permanently in Permit Join mode, but the LinkTap is also not handing out a network ID.. so I dont know why the Inovelli is trying to join it.

Also, the weird thing when I replicate the issue: I see the Inovelli trying to join BOTH networks at the same time (the linktap, and my real one.)

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Inovelli | @fair mountain | LinkTap

austere patio
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What do you mean by "but the LinkTap is also not handing out a network ID"? It's 0xC187 / 6b:6e:69:6c:2d:70:61:54 in the capture you posted.

fair mountain
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please correct me if im wrong, whcih I probably am: but I thought the beacon is sent from the coordinator in response to a beacon request, and then the coordinator assigns a network ID for the device ..

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okay I am wrong 🙂

austere patio
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It responds with one after it allows the device to associate. If the association fails, it never gets that far.

fair mountain
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so IMO the LinkTap shouldnt be in permanent Permit Join, which is probably causing a ton of my other Zigbee issues

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and secondly

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the Inovelli should continue to try to join a network after a failure ..

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I've unplugged the LinkTap for now. But it handles my irrigation 😦

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I bought the LinkTap specifically because it supports HomeAssistant, sigh.

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I want to see if unplugging the LinkTap fixes the other Zigbee issues I've been having (dropped commands, child routes just not working ..)

austere patio
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You mentioned earlier that the zigpy-znp network scan did not pick up the LinkTap network as permitting joins: all it does is parse roughly the same beacons that you see in Wireshark. Did you manually set the channel to that of the LinkTap network and enable -a mode to not filter results?

fair mountain
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A properly behaving Zigbee device shouldn't try to join another random network, but ..

fair mountain
austere patio
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from: 0x0000 is the only interesting one, those always have PermitJoins=1. Why are devices belonging to this EPID active on channels 15, 16, 20, 21, and 26?

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Is this manufacturer using a fixed EPID for all of their networks, but just changing the PAN ID??

tropic depot
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spread spectrum baby.... spray and pray consumer product

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😄

fair mountain
austere patio
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They are, the EPID is just Tap-link ("\x6b\x6e\x69\x6c\x2d\x70\x61\x54"[::-1])

fair mountain
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i was confused by that. this is the first time I've debugged zigbee network isseus (but I have a network/system engineering background.)

austere patio
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You've picked the wrong one to start with, this is a really bizarre system

fair mountain
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Their response isnt encouraging, but with @tropic depot's help I responded ..

If you look at the Beacon sent by the LinkTap, you can see that "Association Permit" is set to True.

The LinkTap should not be sending out this beacons all the time. Full stop.

Devices (re)-join Zigbee networks all the time. Sending a Beacon for every Join request means that ANY zigbee device is going to try to join the LinkTap.

Further reading:

https://community.silabs.com/s/article/how-does-a-zed-choose-a-parent-x?language=en_US
austere patio
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It sounds as if the support person you're speaking to expects all Zigbee networks to behave similarly, where each manufacturer has a fixed EPID and their devices only join networks with the same EPID. This shouldn't be a problem though, Inovelli's switch should be able to handle denied associations and just keep searching.

fair mountain
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Agreed to both your points.

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At the same time: LinkTap should fix their bug, and Inovelli should also fix their bug.

austere patio
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Or you just put a metal pot over the LinkTap gateway and call it a day 😄

fair mountain
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then I cant use it for my water timers

austere patio
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Well, only when joining new devices to your network

fair mountain
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I only bought he LinkTap because of the MQTT/HomeAssistant support

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no the LinkTap wter timers wilkl only work with the LinkTap gateway

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otherwise id have them on the rest of my zigbee mesh

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which has significantly better connectivity

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like. I have zigbee lights outside next to the water timer. if the water timer was supported by z2m or zha I'd just use it directly and get rid of the gateway.

austere patio
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You probably could figure out their protocol if you capture one joining the gateway's network. It seems like they only join networks with that exact EPID though, so you won't be able to get them to join your current one without rebuilding from scratch.

fair mountain
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wonder if the key is static lol

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i can setup another zigbee coordinator on that EPID ..

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looks at the 8 coordinators sitting in front of him

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I still think Inovelli should fix their devices. If it's happening with new joins, I wonder what happens when the network is rebalanced and there are joins .. This may explain commands being dropped

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(also if this was my neighbour .. yeesh.)

storm palm
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I added a ZB-GW03 ethernet gateway and that seems fine -- I can read all the network info -- but when I go to add a new device it wont find any

fair mountain
storm palm
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ZHa does not find any device

oblique reef
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I'm using the yellow device with builtin zigbee device.. there are some hue lights that always go back to 100% brightness, even though start-up behavior is set to PreviousValue. Any ideas?

fair mountain
oblique reef
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Yeah thats what happens. These are on a physical light switch:)

dire crag
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should i update the sonoff zigbee dongle to be able to use zigbee2mqtt and does it still work as a cordinator after that

carmine hamlet
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which model dongle do you have?

dire crag
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Sonoff ZBDongle-E

carmine hamlet
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you shouldn't use that with Zigbee2MQTT at all

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it's experimental

dire crag
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we need to use the zigbee devices with mqtt

carmine hamlet
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?

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what does that mean?

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you should use the right tool for the job

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that dongle works fine with ZHA

dire crag
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i have mqtt devices i want to control zigbee plugs with

carmine hamlet
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that doesn't make any sense

dire crag
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what do you mean i have a mqtt motion sensor that needs to control zigbee plugs to turn them on

carmine hamlet
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you have a motion sensor that communicates over Wifi to an MQTT broker?

dire crag
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no its connected to a arduino the motion sensor and that uses mqtt

carmine hamlet
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you would be better served using an HA automation to monitor the topic used by the motion sensor to detect motion and then control the plug that way

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anyway, point is that that Zigbee dongle isn't stable with Zigbee2MQTT

storm palm
dire crag
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i have the ZBDongle-E and im trying to confiqure it and it says failed to probe usb device

storm palm
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How do I insert an external converter in zigbee2mqtt?

fair mountain
fair mountain
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@austere patio LinkTap won't change the behaviour of their gateway. :/

dire crag
storm palm
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... but it still doesn't "expose" anything

livid scroll
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Good Morning team from Grecce...How i can control my zigbee (Sonoff) devices without internet? I Have HA server the Sonoff devices (WIFI,ZIGBEE) connected from eWeLink to control them....The ZIgbee devices connected to WIfi Bridge...i see different tutorials but im little confused because im newbie in this section

mighty river
hybrid cloud
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does anyone know of any sensors that monitor ammonia concenraton

south moth
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Do IKEA signal repeaters works for anyone with sonof zigbee 3.0? Mine keeps loosing connectivity.

mighty river
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I use z2mqtt : randomly the add-on stops working and requires a restart. But when it comes back up it's forgotten all of my added devices and they need to be added again.

Any suggestions?

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Oddly though, the add-on survives normal restarts without losing the devices.

fair mountain
faint fractal
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I have the ikea blinds and every so often, they seem to lose connectivity and reconnect later on. However, during that phase, it seems a bunch of actions get queued up and once it reconnects, it gets stuck going up and down every few seconds. Using zigbee2mqtt. Normally, I just force remove the device, reset it, and add it back.

Is there a way to just clear whatever the queue is?

fair mountain
dire crag
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does anyone have thirdreality zigbee smart plugs if so I need help with them i want to make them turn on after power goes out and than its restored

mystic badge
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I need some guidance. I have some aqua sensor, I have been using sky connect. But I have order a sonoff stick instead. I have problem that my devices is getting offline. And my guess is to far distance of them. So I need to buy something to get more cover. I have some sonoff tx if it make any difference.

south moth
unborn orbit
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Wondering if I could get some feedback. My inovelli blues keep dropping off the network (1-2 /day). They report back status (on/off) if there are changes but I can't update or send anything to them. What could be wrong? I've done all the usual, no overlapping wifi, on a POE CC652 coordinator from TubeZB

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I have to manually pull the air gap to reset and then they reconnect. I've also tried to have them join other switches via inclusion but it hasn't made a difference

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I'm just confused as to how their status would be able to be read but that they wouldn't be able to received messages

golden vessel
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I have a Tuya device that does the OTA update, but fails at the end with INVALID_IMAGE. Is there any way to disable OTA updates for that specific device only?

dire crag
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any zigbee smart plugs that you guys recommend that have power monitoring and switch function and turn on when power is lost in zigbee2mqtt

hybrid cloud
dire crag
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the plugs I have work but they only have the option to turn on after power failure if I use zha if I use z2m it's not there

pastel yarrow
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Does anyone know how to group zigbee lamps?

sour shadow
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In ZHA, or Zigbee2MQTT, or deCONZ?

pastel yarrow
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in ZHA

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but it does not say how you can group them

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Can you send pictures on discord btw?

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that makes it easier to explain

dire crag
sour shadow
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I wasn't responding to you

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However... you can always develop the required support in Z2M and submit a PR

pastel yarrow
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I found the option to group them

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There was a tab somewhere..

hybrid cloud
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but all those plugs i linked have the power outage memory feture exposed

wanton ember
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Hi everyone, I'm just getting started in my home assistant journey and I could use some help. The server room of the apartment building I live in has two one foot thick concrete walls between me and the room, but I did run ethernet to my complex. Is there like a POE zigbee dongle that people recommend?

sour shadow
wanton ember
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Thank you. Looking at Tube's site, which Ethernet option should I go with? Don't mind spending a few extra shekels for something nicer. The devices I'm getting are upgradable to matter

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Little lost in choosing the one to get 😅

sour shadow
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Depends on what you're going to use - ZHA or Z2M

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If Z2M then something CC2652 based, otherwise either

wary cradle
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Hi all I’ve been trying to solve A problem with my skyconnect for the past 15 hours straight and it’s driving me nuts.

I migrated over to the skyconnect a few weeks ago and it's been running just fine but for some reason today I got this error.

I did upgrade to 2023.5.2 from 2023.5.0 yesterday but I can't recall if that problem started immediately after that.

https://hastebin.com/share/xeneniriqa.python

And https://hastebin.com/share/fayiripeha.vbnet

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Here’s what I’ve done so far

  1. Reloading the configuration
  2. Restart HA
  3. unplugging and replugging in the skyconnect then restart HA
  4. trying skyconnect in alternate USB port then restart HA
  5. removing the Bluetooth range extender (sena, HA approved list) then restart HA
  6. navigated to official skyconnect flash page and reflashed skyconnect to zigbee only
  7. Repeat 1 - 5
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Still can’t get it to set up. Any thoughts or suggestions?

hybrid cloud
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idk about now, but if you were running multipan before i would have suggested restarting the multipan add on

fair mountain
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What could cause ZHA to poll the current state of a light?

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I've been trying to track down network busy / failed to retrive attribute issues with my network. I see lots of [homeassistant.components.zha.entity] light.: polling current state
At first I thought it was Adaptive Lighting, but a lot of the lights being polled don't have Adaptive Lighting setup for them

fair mountain
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Is it normal for Hue bulbs to not respond when they are off? (not powered off, in off state)

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hrm no. some of the failed to get attributes are from devices in 'on' state.

mellow geode
mellow geode
dire crag
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how can i monitor to see how many zigbee plugs are on

sour shadow
fair mountain
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Because I have original Hue lights from 2012.

vernal valve
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Hi i just I'm new on this Discord and pretty new to homeassistant, I discovered it because I was googling for an answer, I know I'm special that way. Anyway My doorlock (ID Lock 150) has a service mode where it generates a random pincode for either 1time or 24hr use, when I generate the pincode, I can read it if I go to my lock in zigbee2mqtt, and check the "State" tab. I have not however succeeded to add this so it will show on a card on my dashboard, hope my explanation was good. Can anyone help?

mellow geode
# fair mountain What kind of issues?

They sometimes tend to become unresponsive to unicast messages whilst still reacting to broadcasts.
It seems like this doesn’t happen when using the Hue Bridge though

grizzled kettle
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Or check and see if the MQTT integration has created any extra sensor entities that might have it.

vernal valve
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I did a seach for the pincode it just generated in the "states" tab on developer tools and it did not find anything.

grizzled kettle
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I guess z2m is not really exposing this to HA. You might be able to make an MQTT sensor that can find it, but that would be the first step to getting it into HA somehow. Or you can file an issue with zigbee2mqtt and see if they can figure out how to expose it.

vernal valve
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When I go to the lock in zigbee2mqtt I have a "expose_pin Flase/true" slider, ive set this to true ofcourse. But im totally lost on how to make a sensor.

grizzled kettle
vernal valve
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I will do some reading. Thank you for replying 🙂

fair mountain
mellow geode
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Yes

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You’re using a TI coordinator?

fair mountain
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I have Hue lights on both TI and EMG

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Wow these are LCT001

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and i have up to LCT016

hollow shale
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Is anyone else experiencing the following issue with ZHA?
I have several different IKEA Tradfri light bulbs and have bound multiple Tradfri 2-button and 4-button remotes to those bulbs. I also bound some of them to groups of two bulbs.
Yesterday everything was working fine, but today while I still can control the bulbs using the remotes, the state of the light entities does not get updated in HA. I enabled auto OTA updates for IKEA devices, so perhaps a firmware update has caused this behaviour.

austere patio
fair mountain
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I pulled the LCT001 bulbs and replaced them with LTA008

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Is there a list of known bad Hue bulbs?

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I have a bunch of OG Hue blooms which I also suspect are probably an issue

hollow shale
austere patio
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I mean physically power cycle it, at the switch. Like turn power off for 10s then turn it back on.

hollow shale
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Yes, I just did that. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

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Okay, I can try again for 10s/until they show as unavailable.

austere patio
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Unavailable will take a long while, a few seconds is fine. If that makes no difference, click the "Reconfigure" button on the bulb and see if that helps. The bulbs should report when anything changes, even if the change is done with a remote.

hollow shale
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I tried power off for ~10s and reconfigure. Reconfigure shows everything as working, but I still have the same issue.

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I can control the light using HA, but with the remote it does not update.

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Oh, I only reconfigured one of the groups bulbs but looked at the group entity to see if it updates, I will try again with a single bulb.

austere patio
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Are you able to reliably control the devices from within HA?

potent thistle
hollow shale
fair mountain
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@mellow geode I remember you mentioning you had problems with Hue light strips too, was that LST001 ?

fair mountain
sour shadow
potent thistle
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yeah i know but i already have philips hue lights which i also want to control via light switch

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but i was wondering if long press etc can also dim the philips hue lights

fair mountain
sour shadow
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Sure

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You can have automations handle that logic - if the device supports long press

fair mountain
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did you look at the link he sent?

sour shadow
fair mountain
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thanks At Tinkerer

potent thistle
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is there somewhere an example of dimming lights with long press?

sour shadow
mellow geode
mellow geode
# fair mountain Is there a list of known bad Hue bulbs?

Not really. It might even depend on the coordinator or other devices in the Mesh that cause problems (possibly 2.x. IKEA firmware).
Depending on the image type / firmware url, you might be able to tell if it uses a TI chip or not.

fair mountain
mellow geode
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Uh, not sure. They’re not on my main network atm

fair mountain
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okay 🙂

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I removed my Blooms from the network too

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early days but it looks like failures have decreased

mellow geode
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Likely LCL001 or LCL006 according to what’s online

mellow geode
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Like just RGB? No CCT?

fair mountain
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2013

fair mountain
mellow geode
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Yeah, the naming is more or less random.

fair mountain
mellow geode
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Yep, I also have one of those (not using it though). It caused issues and didn’t react sometimes

fair mountain
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oh yeah iive had those issues

mellow geode
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(The newer Blooms (black/white) with Bluetooth and RGB-CCT are fine though)

fair mountain
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2 of them actually wouldnt remove from the network 😄

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1 failed to pair with a different network

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that should have been a clue

mellow geode
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Issues with both TI and Silabs coordinator (or only tested one of them)?

fair mountain
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ive had issues on both

mellow geode
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Hmm

fair mountain
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I migrated my CC2562P network to EMG (ZHA)

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and half of them were on EMG and the other half were on CC2562P

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My hue Sensors do NOT like EMG, though.

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full stop.

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they start dropping off

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right now I have 1 EMG network on ZHA and 3 CC2562P on Z2m

mellow geode
fair mountain
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ive got a bunch of problems going on so its making it really hard to figure out anything

mellow geode
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Did you try removing them and re-pairing them with Silabs?

fair mountain
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many times

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I did figure out the major one: LinkTap in permit join permanently, and Innovelli switches do not handle a reject join properly

mellow geode
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I’ve sometimes had issues after a network migration. There was a point where I re-joined all routers

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Why do they permit joins permanently lol

fair mountain
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uh. I have no appropriate answer here 🙂

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The device is unplugged now.

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But that did not solve my INovelli routing / dropped commands issue, so I am now looking into other things.

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(as in, Id probably get banned for providing my opinion)

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their email when they responded to me going "what are you doing" started with "We have had these devices on the market for 6 years"

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that doesnt excuse Inovelli not handling failed pairings properly, but yeah ..

harsh wedge
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I have a Hue bridge and am looking to add either zigbee or z-wave. Would I be likely to experience an issue with zigbee and the hue setup?

fair mountain
sour shadow
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You may get interference issues if you happen to pick the same Zigbee channel your Hue hub uses

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The great thing is that you can ditch the hub 😉

harsh wedge
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Do most people go z-wave if they have a Hue hub?

fair mountain
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no

harsh wedge
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True haha

fair mountain
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i ditched my 3 hue hubs and just use ZHA/z2m

harsh wedge
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I've been slow to do that because I was unsure of the reliability of my laptop running HA. But I bought a usff PC and I'm all in on HA now.

fair mountain
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theres some benefits to the hue hub, you cant use the no-battery switches with ZHA (but you can with z2m, IIRC)

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and things like hue sync box ..

harsh wedge
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I think I would lose my alarm light sunrise from Sleep as Android

fair mountain
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yes, but you could probably implement that wtih HA

harsh wedge
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Would I lose control of those lights from Google Home?

fair mountain
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you can link HA with Google Home

harsh wedge
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And the devices get added as individual lights?

fair mountain
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if you pay for it via HA cloud or setup an SSL certificate and such

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you can make zigbee light groups

harsh wedge
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I have HA cloud. Great service.

fair mountain
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google home is kinda useless these days 😄

harsh wedge
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But my spouse isn't on the HA train so she uses Google to control lights

fair mountain
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can barely set timers half of the time

harsh wedge
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I have an emotional tie to zigbee. I worked on a zigbee project for Eaton and Philips to switch on devices back in 2006.

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So I'd prefer to use it over z-wave

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Do Aqara sensors require an Aqara hub or any will any zigbee hub work?

fair mountain
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any

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but they dont follow the zigbee spec

harsh wedge
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What's your favorite sensor brand?

fair mountain
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hue 😉

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i still use aqara sensors, but they do drop off occasionally

harsh wedge
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Ha ok

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I'm looking for water leak sensors

nova crest
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I really like the Samsung smartthings, now aeotec, leak sensors

open mica
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I added the Hue Dimmer switch remote and looking at the visualization its not connected to anything even though i have installed on my sonoff zha. How can i connect to the network? https://imgur.com/a/fGaIKg1

mellow geode
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The map is only updated every few hours

dire crag
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do I need a aqara hub for there motion sensors I have the sonoff dongle e

mellow geode
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Should work fine with that dongle if you’re using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

fair mountain
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Anyone ever seen 2023-05-07 19:42:31.689 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Fail because endpoint list mismatch: {1, 2} {1, 2, 242} 2023-05-07 19:42:31.689 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Fail because endpoint list mismatch: {1, 2} {1, 2, 242} 2023-05-07 19:42:31.689 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Fail because endpoint list mismatch: {1, 2} {1, 2, 242} 2023-05-07 19:42:31.690 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.quirks.registry] Fail because input cluster mismatch on at least one endpoint?

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This is re-adding a switch I have previously had on this ZHA instance, but the switch fails to pair properly now

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and I dont see things like firmware version and such

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And it keeps re-joining the network

hybrid cloud
harsh wedge
hybrid cloud
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Whatever is cheapest, is what I usually get. Actually I really enjoy aqara for the door sensors, I've had great reliability with those. I have some sengled and ikea lights, the sengled ones are not amazing but they're fairly reliable. Ikea seems like a better choice though honestly for that price point. Only thing I haven't been able to find something good of without going all out on Price is motion sensors.. all of them seem to have one issue or another

harsh wedge
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Is it recommended to attach the zigbee hub to the HA device or have it be separated?

hybrid cloud
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Honestly the farther away from the machine running home assistant, the better

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That interference is nasty

harsh wedge
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I'm looking for a cheap zigbee hub. Looking at sonoff, Aqara, or anything else that you recommend

hybrid cloud
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I used to have the sonoff p and that one works fairly well most of the time but I did actually run into some pretty frustrating issues sometimes. I'm using the sky connect now and I really haven't had any major issues. I'm running multi-pan and sometimes the add-on doesn't always start right but multi-pan is experimental and you can stay just to ZigBee only

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There's a list of supported hubs in the pins. What you want is going to be different though if you go z2m verse zha

harsh wedge
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Sonoff hub and a few Aqara sensors. Should it work with zha? I haven't gotten into the zha/z2m world and don't know anything about those options.

fair mountain
harsh wedge
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I'm new to a lot of this so I know I sound like an idiot

broken slate
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Zha require reload to work properly.

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I have few devuced that stop responding until I reload ZHA

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I have ezsp

austere patio
broken slate
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I get this message in the log

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Logger: homeassistant.components.zha.core.cluster_handlers
Source: components/zha/core/cluster_handlers/init.py:506
Integration: Zigbee Home Automation (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 9:38:46 AM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 9:38:46 AM

[0xA852:1:0x0006]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]

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It not for all devices

elfin steppe
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I have a SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus-E with the recomended Coordinator firmware. Im running ZHA. My Philips Hue Motion Sensors first gen indordne “3 pcs” keep dropping and have to be repaired to the system. All IKEA bulbs 74 pcs and IKEA battery on/off endpoints are stable. Does anyone have a fix/workaround?

broken slate
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Does a reset and back up help

tawny quartz
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Coming from #general-archived #general-archived message

How do I change the zigbee channel in ZHA with a skyconnect in multiprotocol mode to match OTBR?

I'm getting a warning:

OTBR and ZHA share the same radio but use different channels

sour shadow
tawny quartz
mellow geode
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… and puddly already answered

glossy axle
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So for some reason this morning all my ZHA devices are unavailable?

I rebooted the Tube zb_gw_cc2652p2_poe, the webUI is online and there's nothing showing wrong in it's logs.

I've rebooted the entire HA VM, as well as the HA services, and it is able to connect to the ZHA Gateway, and isn't showing any log errors, but all of the Zigbee devices that are attached to that gateway are "unavailable"

I've updated HA to the latest version as of this morning as well.

molten linden
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for the web UI does it show serial is connected?

glossy axle
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[D][streamserver:050]: Client 172.16.8.22 disconnected [D][streamserver:085]: New client connected from 172.16.8.22 [D][api:067]: Disconnecting Home Assistant 2021.12.10 (172.16.8.22) [D][streamserver:050]: Client 172.16.8.22 disconnected [I][ota:046]: Boot seems successful, resetting boot loop counter. [D][api.connection:617]: Client 'Home Assistant 2021.12.10 (172.16.8.22)' connected successfully! [D][streamserver:085]: New client connected from 172.16.8.22

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That's what I'm seeing in the Tube WebUI Logs.

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So it seems happy?

molten linden
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enable debug logging for zha reload zha,

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and then post the logs to dpaste or similar

glossy axle
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Will do, allow me a few.

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Let me know if I did that correctly...

molten linden
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okay it's talking to the coordinator fine. anything after those Delivery Errors? the may just be occurring during the network start up.

glossy axle
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Looks like a few of warnings.

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okay, I just checked and everything is back online...

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The cc2652p2 was offline this morning, so must be that the reboot brought in online, and then it just took a while for all the zigbee devices to become availble?

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If you are THE tube of the tube cc2652p2, then your product has been incredibly reliable to date, and this is the first time I've had anything close to an issue, so thank you.

molten linden
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Great.. yes that's me, and thank you!

grim igloo
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sir tube, knower of stuff and things

hybrid cloud
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does anyone know any like actually reliable motion sensors

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im using one to detect movement in my kitchen and all the ones ive tried either just crap out when they shouldnt or disconnect entirely or give false positives

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im not really sure what to go for here, im currently on the first edition xiaomi sensors since i figured they were likely near identical to the first gen aqara brand ones, but sometimes instead of their normal 1 minute cooldown they give a 3 minute cooldown

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just cant seem to find anything actually reliable for sustained movement

icy crane
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I'm guessing other people have the same issue, but I was wondering if anyone found a solution? I'm running a HUSBZB-1 with ZHA on the current version of HA. My Aqara sensors/buttons all disconnected while all my other zigbee devices still work. I can re-pair the Aqara sensors/buttons and they will stay connected and work for a few minutes/hours and then they become unresponsive and require re-pairing. Has anyone found a work-around?

tropic depot
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find the router on the network they don't like and remove it

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read the pins on this channel

icy crane
tropic depot
hybrid cloud
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trying to figure out if zha is recording in debug whatever is happening. the cooldown on my device is 1:10, so at 11:08:19 the device is marked as 0 aka also in 1 minute cooldown, so by 11:09:30 or a few seconds later, it should reactivate, since im standing in front of the motion sensor, yet i see no motion event, and the device is marked as seen at around the same time
https://dpaste.org/0SpC9

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so whats happening, is it not sending the vent, is it not reaching the coordinator? is it the sensors job to try sending the message again if it doesnt get a confirmation?

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what's the communication breakdown here

icy crane
tropic depot
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no

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you have no mains powered devices at all?

icy crane
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I have 2. A occupancy detector (does not work as a repeater) and I have an outdoor lightbulb in the patio that I have set up as a repeater for a temp/door sensor in my shed. otherwise, everything indoors is connected to the zigbee stick directly

hybrid cloud
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best i can tell it seems this issue only happens with extended motion in front of the device, like some kind of communication is going bad, causing a motion detection event to be missed or something, as evidenced by the state not reporting for almost exactly 2:20 rather than the expected 1:10 (very technologically uneducated deduction here)

hasty hound
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Where do we find the Zigbee Visualisation nowadays? IIRC it was quite obvious in a previous iteration of HA.