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carmine hamlet
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Key point is that z2m and ZHA are software that talks to the dongle, not the dongle itself

silent shore
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Read at some site selling it, promoting z2m support. But looked at official site and noticed that it also supports zha. All good!

And I thought some dongles would be compatible with either z2m, zha or both.

sour shadow
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That is the case, for varying levels of compatible

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Z2M works best with TI coordinators, and sometimes badly with EZSP ones

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ZHA works fine with either

silent shore
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Also noticed that I got a door and window sensor. They would not work as I understood?

sour shadow
silent shore
sour shadow
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Why would they not work?

carmine hamlet
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Stop looking wherever you're finding your info

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It seems randomly wrong

silent shore
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@sour shadow you said Aqara devices are generally not the problem, except the P1 door/window sensors which won't work with a CC2652 coordinator

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Oh, sorry. Cc2652. Forget it

sour shadow
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Also, that's one specific sensor, to extrapolate from that to every door and window sensor is .... impressive

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If you have an OG Aqara, or an E1, or T1, then those are all fine with the CC2652 coordinators

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The P1 motion sensor is also fine

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The problem is exactly what I said, nothing more

silent shore
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My first dive into zigbee, overwhelming at start but starting to get the hang of it. Thanks for your patience 🙂

oblique reef
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I just did a backup/restore from HA blue with SkyConnect to HA yellow. I'd like to try to use the built-in zwave from yellow, but that doesn't work. I see this in the logs:

Error setting up entry SkyConnect Multi-PAN for zha

and

Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 1 of 3)
fresh shard
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Is there a way to rename all ZHA entities for a device without having to manually rename each entity? In other words if I have the device name as "Bedroom Light" all of the entities of that device would start with "bedroom_light". For instance lets say the Bedroom Light has an entity called select.signify_netherlands_b_v_lct014_start_up_behavior when the Device is renamed to Bedroom light the entity becomes select.bedroom_light_start_up_behavior

molten linden
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If you change the overall device name it usually prompts to rename the entities based on the new name

grim igloo
mellow geode
# fresh shard Is there a way to rename all ZHA entities for a device without having to manuall...

There's currently an issue with special characters. Some Hue lights for example have "Signify Netherlands B.V." as the manufacturer.
The . gets converted to a _ for the entity, but apparently that causes issues when renaming the device and thus doesn't rename the entity ids properly.
If you first rename the entity to the prefix of the entity id: so signify_netherlands_b_v_lct014 in your case for example WITHOUT pressing the "rename entities" button, then open that dialog again and enter a proper name (with pressing the rename button now), it should rename all entities properly

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(pretty sure this isn't a ZHA bug though, but rather something else in core/frontend)

fresh shard
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@mellow geode Thanks for the response I think maybe I didn't explain well enough. The automatically assigned entity_id is select.signify_netherlands_b_v_lct014_start_up_behavior and I want to rename it to select.bedroom_light_start_up_behavior. In this case the device that contains this entity is Bedroom Light and contains about 10 entities and I would like to rename all the entity_id's at one time instead of manually renaming all 10 of them. This is possible with Z2M but I have opted to use ZHA going forward. To be clear though it was a function of Z2M not of HA I just wondered if there was a way to accomplish this natively in HA. It's just a lot of renaming otherwise

mellow geode
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What's the name of the "Device" right now? Just Bedroom Light?

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And all entity IDs have signify_netherlands_b_v_lct014 as the prefix?

nocturne geyser
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Can anyone suggest a child friendly door bell? For ZHA? Son wants one for his room so was hoping to set up some automation with it...

I'm UK not sure on price

sour shadow
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Do you need an actual doorbell, or just a button that you can then use to trigger an automation in HA that'd play a sound?

nocturne geyser
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Oh yeah haha I guess a button could do? They have an alexa kids so could have that trigger a doorbell sound?

sour shadow
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Then... you've many choices

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The Aqara buttons work well

nocturne geyser
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You spoil me with your wisdom!

sour shadow
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I'm just lazy

oblique reef
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my HA Yellow Zigbee setup is acting weirdly.. when I add a bulb (I put that one in pairing mode), it adds all kinds of others bulbs that are already added, sometimes multiple times, causing them to flash all the time

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why would it add stuff that's already added?

onyx briar
oblique reef
onyx briar
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I haven't used hue bulbs before, I don't know what might be causing that. The only thing I can think of is if they're trying to update their firmware

fair mountain
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@tropic depot @austere patio The Z-stack crash was due to ser2net. I flipped a bunch of breakers today and zero issues directly connected on 20221226.

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(and damn these Inovelli switches are hard to pair even with a working zigbee coordinator)

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I closed out the ticket and mentioned that I dont understand how ZHA is at fault with the 20230410 firmware

grim igloo
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Driver warz

tropic depot
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?

fair mountain
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how would I tell?

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I just bought them last week

tropic depot
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from inovelli?

fair mountain
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Aartech

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i live in canada

tropic depot
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they should be then

fair mountain
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they dont seem to stay in pairing mode long enough .. the blue light only pulses for like ten seconds

tropic depot
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i have no issues pairing them

fair mountain
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then i have to airgap them

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huh weird

grim igloo
tropic depot
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the original release had a hardware issue

grim igloo
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Are the original all getting recalled?

tropic depot
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they were all replaced by inovelli

grim igloo
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I see

fair mountain
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the antenna issue?

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once they're paired they work fine

fair mountain
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ah ha. someone else reported issues with 20230410 z-stack. they cant OTA because the stick falls over.

quick willow
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I deleted my ZHA integration with my HA skyconnect and want to move to Zigbee2mqtt. My Skyconnect shows up and I can pass the USB through to my VM and shows up on on the host and my windows pc, it won't let me update it firmware and is not listed in the hardware info of Home assistant.

hybrid cloud
fair mountain
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Is there a way to limit the number of OTA updates at the same time?

peak vapor
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turn off OTA and forget about it? 😄

fair mountain
peak vapor
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Oh I see

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I mean turning it off would also fix that right xD

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I only manually update when there's an issue

wraith talon
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So I have an Aqara vibration sensor

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Their temp sensors are great

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Vibration sensors are fiddly at best, and I've tried having Amazon replace it, and no luck

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Both of them at the highest sensitivity won't pick up my dryer vibrating, but also they do this thing where they just stop reporting anything after like 15 minutes

hybrid cloud
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what uhh, what causes this

[02:56:40:170772] Info : Connecting to Secondary...``` (repeats ad infinitum in the silicon labs multiprotocol addon)
fixed by a physical reboot of the skyconnect, not fixed by `usbreset` in proxmox
wraith talon
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Does anyone know of a sensor that could work with my dryer like this that doesn't suck?

hybrid cloud
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nvm

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i cant read

wraith talon
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Yup, have it at 1 which apparently is most sensitive

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Also tried 21, the other end, and seems 1 is the most sensitive

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But no dice on dryer vibration

hybrid cloud
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did you do it yourself or did you use a blueprint for it

wraith talon
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I haven't done anything with automations yet

hybrid cloud
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i mean the sesnitivity change

wraith talon
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Just checking to see if I can get the sensor to work like I want first

hybrid cloud
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just asking cause i used a blueprint for it and it didnt seem to register

wraith talon
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There's also the whole thing about after 15 minutes it just... stops reporting anything and Zigbee marks it as last seen at X time and such

hybrid cloud
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oh the other thing you need to do is you need to press the pair button on the sensor when changing sensitivity otherwise the vibration sensor wont actually pick up the change

wraith talon
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So I'd preferrably like a sensor that doesn't just stop working

hybrid cloud
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and ofc make sure to use the manufactur override code

wraith talon
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Oh that's stupid as fuck

hybrid cloud
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just aqara stuff yknow

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personally i bought the sensor and have no problems with it, id check for other causes then the device itself. maybe its your coordinator, idk. im using the skyconnect and it works perfectly

wraith talon
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I have the Sonoff USB Zigbee 3.0 one

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For reference, the Aqara temp sensors I have work and report fine

hybrid cloud
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eh i used to use that one but i retired it before i got this sensor

wraith talon
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And because I have better antennas in a bin, I put a beefier antenna on it too

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Last seen 40 minutes ago apparently

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hybrid cloud
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you sure it has a strong connection with your coordinator?

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atually looking at my network it looks like mine is actually connected through my tuya mmwave sensor lmao, have heard aqara devices are notoriously picky about routing through other devices

wraith talon
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I think so

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But even if I bring it back to my desk which is 6 feet from the coordinator, it doesn't come back

hybrid cloud
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have you tried tapping the pairing button

wraith talon
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Several times

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Trying to re-pair it now, and it's in pairing mode

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HA wants nothing to do with finding it a second time

hybrid cloud
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with other aqara devices ive had trouble pairing that would be fixed by swapping out the battery

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personally id just suggestion enabling debugging and seeing if you can figure out whats going on. dunno any other vibration sensors myself

wraith talon
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Literally every Google result is like "use this Aqara one"

hybrid cloud
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but honestly if everyone else is getting good results with the aqara 😅

wraith talon
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Do you have sensitivity set up on both in and out, or just in?

hybrid cloud
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just in

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you can check to see if it set by pressing get attribute, if it set it should read corectly

wraith talon
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No it does not read those attributes

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Neither the one I replaced or this one do, anyway

hybrid cloud
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which agian, you have to tap the sensor while its trying to read the attribute

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otherwise it wont report the alue

wraith talon
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Some attributes it reads, most don't

hybrid cloud
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by tap i mean the pairing button

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press read attribute, tap pairing button, should read

wraith talon
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It does not

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I can read stuff from the MotionCluster just fine

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But the VibrationBasicCluster doesn't read anything

hybrid cloud
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are you zha or z2m

wraith talon
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zha

hybrid cloud
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i can read motioncluster just fine but for vibration i need to press read, phyiscally tap the pairing button once on the sensor, and the value should appear

wraith talon
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I've tried many times. It does not

hybrid cloud
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unsure then. perhaps its the coordinator or something. but that is the proper process to read/write to the vibration cluster

wraith talon
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It seems like it writes just fine

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Just wants nothing to do with reading it back

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Definitely not the coordinator

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Signal is -32 on the sensor according to Zigbee, but it did the thing where it dropped again and it hasn't seen the sensor for 20 minutes

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But like I said, the temp sensors work fine, and stay working

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And those didn't require me to constantly tap the pair button when in pairing mode, they just paired after I held it for 5 secondsa

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So the coordinator is fine

onyx galleon
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it seems to me that z2m is faster on supporting new devices, is this overall true or have I just been unlucky? (for example ikea vindstyrka z2m seem to support voc whereas I can't get that reading using zha)

sour shadow
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It depends

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Is that new device Zigbee standards compliant? If so it'll just work with ZHA.

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In the more likely case that it's not entirely compliant, or only partially compliant, then ZHA will need a quirk - but Z2M will need a converter either way.

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Z2M simply has a wider user base, which usually means that devices get support faster, but not always (see the Aqara T1 cube)

onyx galleon
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I just started looking at zigbee stuff because of Ikeas smartblinds, I went with z-wave five years ago. Is that a recurring problem that things are not up specced to zigbee standards even for big companies?

sour shadow
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Oh yes

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Most companies treat the spec as vague guidance only

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There's a reason Zigbee is cheap... companies don't have to bother with certification

hybrid cloud
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Zha definitely has slower device uptake. But if you're willing to search the zha GitHub for some custom quirks Ive found that zha compatibility comes a month or two further down the line than z2m. It really does feel like gamble though when they'll be merged into core

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I know z2m and supports a lot more obscure devices though

sour shadow
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Z2M does allow you to add your own support, and that's how anybody develops support for a new device. It means you can often add a custom converter from a GitHub issue while waiting on the release

onyx galleon
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yeah I started looking into how hard it would be to contribute/hack something by yourself but that documentation was better for z2m as well.

hybrid cloud
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My understanding is zha is meant to just be simple and easy to understand and z2m has more tinkerer ability (no pun intended)

sour shadow
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Well... ZHA is part of HA, and Z2M just happens to support HA...

hybrid cloud
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What other applications are there for z2m. I know that it's mqtt so theoretically a lot more devices could support it but other than home assistant when would someone ever want to use it

sour shadow
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Plus anything that supports MQTT

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I've seen more than a few people use it for their own in-house or home-brew platform

hybrid cloud
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TIL homekit supports mqtt

sour shadow
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Well, it doesn't, but HomeBridge does

onyx galleon
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so its zha-device-handlers issue page where I would open an issue if a device is missing an entity?

hybrid cloud
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Yes but Search for the device First because you might find something

opaque helm
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What are the best recommendations for zigbee routers?

sour shadow
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Depends on what country you're in, but the Innr plugs work well

opaque helm
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Slovenia, EU

clear tapir
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Wouldn't it be nice if we had feedback of a device suddenly going offline ...

sour shadow
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You can write an automation for that

clear tapir
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Templates are for advanced users... am trying to get there. Went to ZHA coordinator and under connected devices ... device showed connected ... but had to dig down to find the device unavailable. Unfortunatly it was a router device that had other devices connected to it. Looking at the network diagram showed devices connected to it but the device itself showed offline. The only way I became aware of it was the blinking light on the device ... oh the horror.

sour shadow
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Well... the good news is that you can pretty much copy and paste that template into your own config

clear tapir
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Don't you need to change the entity values ... and how does the template display thie info

sour shadow
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More for #templates-archived ... but

        {{ states|selectattr('state', 'in', ['unavailable'])
``` find all unavailable entities
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                |rejectattr('entity_id','in',['media_player.living_room_tv','sensor.unavailable_entities','binary_sensor.return_train_status'])
``` reject those with an `entity_id` that matches
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|rejectattr('entity_id','match','^device_tracker\.|^binary_sensor\.trains_|^.*_old|^sensor\.tasmota_car_|^media_player\.forked_daapd|^media_player\.owntone_|^.*([\._]home|^sensor\.here_weather_|[\._]other|_hws_|_next_alarm|minecraft|accuhome|espresense_|plex_|roku_x00200y5s7lx|^weather\.|.kelsie_|_train_|_time_to_home|\.sky_q_)')
``` reject the entities that match those substrings/regexs
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                |list|length}}
``` count how many there are
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That's then a number that's the state of the entity

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Alternatively

                |map(attribute='entity_id')|list|join(', ')}}
``` turn them into a list of the `entity_id`s, that's an attribute listing them all
clear tapir
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Remember ...Templates are for advanced users... am trying to get there. Thanks

sour shadow
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They're really not that scary

clear tapir
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My hope was to draw attention to a ZHA platform that would give us realtime feedback into problems

sour shadow
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You could add your vote to an existing feature request on the forum, but given that it's smarter to solve it at the HA level, not the integration level... don't expect those to go anywhere.... ever

clear tapir
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OK.. Just trying to get a stupid kitchen light to work .. went from wifi switch to zigbee. Only to find creating a zigbee network unstable in this part of the house. I still don't know why this part of the house is causing so much trouble. Can you suggest some tools to help

sour shadow
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The standard starting point is to check for interference/RF noise on your chosen Zigbee channel

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There are pinned messages on various ways of doing that

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Graphing your mesh and finding bottlenecks may also help

clear tapir
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Am using the default channel 15. I have a wifi analyzer on my computer that only goes to 14 which is standard on 2.4 range

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My wifi network is 4

sour shadow
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You realise that Zigbee and WiFi channel numbers aren't the same?

clear tapir
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no I did not ...

sour shadow
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You realise that you've carefully chosen the worst possible channels for both, ensuring that you're going to have major issues?

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I'd start by scrolling to the second oldest pinned message and reading the link there, then work your way through the other pins

clear tapir
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back to channels... what does zigbee channel 15 relate to

sour shadow
clear tapir
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😀. well ok then

sour shadow
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Rather than having me regurgitate it for you, you can read it yourself 😉

languid talon
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Sorry for bump, but did you manage to get this working? I'm having the same issue with two E1 roller shades and z2m and haven't found a solution anywhere.

jaunty maple
languid talon
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ooh that might be the case for me then. Did you have to re-pair all devices?

grim igloo
hybrid cloud
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i've got a zigbee device whos battery jumped to 0% and its still sending attribute updates but not responding to any requests from zha

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is this just...normal low battery zigbee behavior?

sour shadow
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Yes

empty coyote
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Turned out I needed to put "otau_directory: /config/zigpy_ota/" instead of "otau_directory: /config/zigpy_ota"

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Is this something just for me, or have something changed so Wiki also should be corrected?

mellow geode
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hmm, it should work perfectly fine without the trailing slash

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Not that it should matter, but you're running Home Assistant OS?

jaunty maple
crystal kite
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I just set up 2 Aqara motion sensors. I have a sonoff hub. They connected to the zigbee home automation add on. They showed detected as soon as I set them up but now they do not detect motion. Am I missing something?

grim igloo
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did you connect them then move them far away?

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what is a sonoff "hub"? is this a sonoff P or E usb dongle?

glacial zinc
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Sometimes my Zigbee network just falls apart and I wish I could make it not happen. I think there's something wrong with the SkyConnect honestly.

austere patio
glacial zinc
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Basically every device drops off. Everything is offline and stays offline, with like 3 minor exceptions. And it's not the wifi, that was the first thing I tried

austere patio
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Post some debug logs please. It's a little hard to help out without info. What devices don't drop off the network? Which ones do?

grim igloo
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puddly have you seen people complain about fp1 not resetting properly?

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i found some reddit suggestions saying hold down reset for 5 seconds or 10 or 10 then 5

austere patio
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Not that I've seen

grim igloo
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seemed to magically work after like 50 attempts holding it down for like 13 seconds

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it was fun

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does zha support the regions now btw?

glacial zinc
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I'll post logs tomorrow because I'm about to head to bed.

grim igloo
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@carmine hamlet you use z2m with the fp1 right? were you able to set multiple regions without issue?

carmine hamlet
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I don't use regions

grim igloo
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based on what i'm seeing that might be for the best. i'm following directions and even looked at a tutorial showing the same flow and seems it loses my region if i add a second.. and then the second also doesnt seem to do anything. gonna play more and see if i'm just goofing up somehow

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okay that wasnt it. so once one region becomes "unoccupied" which comes after "leave" then it seems to be able to retrigger "enter" for another region

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i think i need to use mqtt explorer instead of logbook for my sanity

hybrid cloud
grim igloo
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yea tis a silly thing

grim igloo
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ok i take that all back. the fp1 regions are actually working great. just took some trial and error figuring out what the sweet spots are for each "zone" you choose

hybrid cloud
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is the fp1 worth the extra over the tuya one for the extra stuff that it offers

grim igloo
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Tuya shouldn’t exist

fair mountain
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@austere patio did you see the Z-Stack issue where they're pointing at ZHA?

glacial zinc
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So after restarting HA a few times, I had ZHA detecting a switch for a few minutes, but now it's dead again

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It literally won't notice button presses on a device that's touching it

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I added a router basically right under the SkyConnect and it seems to be recovering. But I'm convinced there is a bug somewhere that causes the ZHA or SkyConnect to get twisted around and stop working. There was already a router within 60cm of the SkyConnect, so more than likely it was the act of adding a device that knocked it out of it's stupor

mellow geode
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You’re already using a USB extension, right?

languid talon
whole steeple
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hi guys

I've been trying to find a solution or identical situation on forum and no luck with key words. Which I believe to have already happened to others.

In my zigbee I have 3 Aqara's leak sensors. 2 of them are reporting as "unknown" when comes about the actual sensor data, if moisture or not.

Today I removed one and added again, to see if would fix. I start to wonder if is a battery issue, even though reports back 100% battery

languid talon
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You can try putting fresh batteries, sometimes the ones they come with are depleted

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Or try updating your coordinator firmware - that could be why you dont see the sensor data.

whole steeple
sour shadow
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The other thing to do ... trip them - get their contacts wet and then dry them off

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When I first paired my leak sensors (to Z2M) they were unknown until I tripped them and the system knew what they were doing

whole steeple
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that's a quite fast check

whole steeple
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I took out the battery and added it again. Wet the sensor and bam, back to live

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thank you guys

polar cobalt
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good day,
i installed some Heimann smoke senson 2 weeks ago via Zigbee2Mqtt...
within the zigbee page i can see the devices, i also see the sensors but they dont appear in the ZigBee Dashboard.
since yesterday one of them appears in the dashboard as well - but only one of them.

Anyone aware how to have all of them in the dasboard? its just a beauty mistake....because all the sensors seem to work...but i want to have it beautiful

polar cobalt
limpid finch
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Can someone please help me. Out of nowhere my zigbee2mqtt start having delays. I noticed when I looked at the log that there is a lot of messages non stpp being published by different devices which causes my action to get in the qeue and thats where the delays is. But how can I stop this? It seemns to go away for a few hours if I restart zigbee2mqtt

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A few exaples:

17T21:47:49+08:00","linkquality":83,"power":0,"power_outage_memory":"restore","state":"ON","update":{"installed_version":-1,"latest_version":-1,"state":null},"update_available":null,"voltage":239}'
Info 2023-04-17 21:48:52MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Luz Cozinha', payload '{"brightness":254,"last_seen":"2023-04-17T21:48:51+08:00","level_config":{"on_level":"previous"},"linkquality":69,"power_on_behavior":"on","state":"OFF","update":{"installed_version":587806257,"latest_version":587806257,"state":"idle"},"update_available":null}'
Info 2023-04-17 21:48:56MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Luz Quarto', payload '{"brightness":127,"last_seen":"2023-04-17T21:48:55+08:00","level_config":{"on_level":"previous"},"linkquality":76,"power_on_behavior":"on","state":"OFF","update":{"installed_version":587806257,"latest_version":587806257,"state":"idle"},"update_available":null}'
Info 2023-04-17 21:49:29MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Interruptor Toni', payload '{"action":null,"battery":87,"last_seen":"2023-04-17T21:49:28+08:00","linkquality":145,"update":{"installed_version":587699761,"latest_version":587699761,"state":"idle"},"update_available":null}'
Info 2023-04-17 21:49:34MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Interruptor Quarto', payload '{"action":null,"battery":60,"last_seen":"2023-04-17T21:49:31+08:00","linkquality":72,"update":{"installed_version":587699761,"latest_version":587699761,"state":"idle"},"update_available":null}'
Info 2023-04-17 21:49:34MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Interruptor Toni', payload '{"action":null,"battery":87,"last_seen":"2023-04-17T21:49:32+08:00","linkquality":142,"update":{"installed_version":587699761,"latest_version":587699761,"state":"idle"},"update_available":null}'

clear tapir
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Changing Frequency on Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 Dongle - P ... First deleted ZHA Integration... Added the following lines to config file...zha:
zigpy_config:
network:
channels: [25] ... Added ZHA integration ... It worked!! ...Also .. chart to determine best freq .. #zigbee-archived message

hybrid cloud
grim igloo
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I try to read some logspam while having my morning coffee ☕️

glacial zinc
limpid finch
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it keeps adding these lines non stop. And I dont know why. And its not one device only. It only stops when I restart the addon. Any idea?

grim igloo
limpid finch
quiet gazelle
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Recommendations for budget friendly Zigbee LED strips? Been using TP Link Kasa and having issues with them becoming unresponsive occasionally

ashen bluff
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I'd recommend buying a controller and strips separately. If you want "real" recommendation you should say what kind of strips you're looking for

sour shadow
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I've got the Zigbee 3.0 Gledopto controllers and they work really reliably

quiet gazelle
grim igloo
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Yes it’s very simple

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Any off the shelf strip is inferior and or overpriced

sour shadow
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We're not talking soldering skills here

quiet gazelle
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Always just bought the strip with the controller built in

sour shadow
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Yes

grim igloo
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Eww analog strips

grim igloo
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Mine wouldn’t pair no matter what I tried but as soon as I changed to All it paired right away

mellow geode
grim igloo
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sonoff p dongle

mellow geode
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And you didn’t migrate from another stick (that’s not TI based)?

grim igloo
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nope

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setup z2m and it's been running smooth with the p dongle adding devices as i go

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funny enough it joined with another of the same generation hue bulb on the other side of the wall from the one it didnt join to (i just checked that on the map)

mellow geode
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Huh, maybe just Aqara funkiness then

clever cedar
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Any cheap and reliable Zigbee newtwork extender that works with ZHA? I have seen one on aliexpress that works with z2m but no mention on ZHA

bitter harbor
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your idea of cheap may vary, but https://zigbee.blakadder.com/routers.html has a variety of options (anything with the home assistant logo has been tested with ZHA). Or, you could get mains-powered devices like smart plugs or light bulbs, which generally also serve as routers (IIRC, Sengled brand smart bulbs are the main exception)

clever cedar
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I'll have a look ,thanks!

molten linden
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Stay away from the tuya one on that list it’s been known to black hole traffic

clever cedar
minor plaza
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Is using Zigbee in flat reasonable, or should I just disregard this option?

From what I've read there could be following problems:

  1. My RPI is using external HDD via usb3, this requires me to grab long usb 2.0 cable for dongle and try to creatively hide it, in same room router is placed.
  2. It interferes with WiFi, and my workstation is not connected via ethernet. Router is place in central spot of flat, while behind fairly thick walls so it's hard to find (recommended in documentation) 5m anywhere.
  3. Neighboring WiFi occupies channels 1, 4, 11. I live in Europe.

I seems that all this together could cause strong interference from ZigBee and WiFi collision, but maybe I am overestimating possible problems. For now I think only about some door sensors + ESP32 controlled leds + temperature sensors, but I don't know how much I will want to do in future.

limpid light
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do you really use 2.4ghz wifi anymore?

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even so zigbee is so little traffic it wont matter. You get more interference from a microwave or your neighbors wifi than zigbee will introduce

limpid light
austere patio
limpid light
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but if you have a pc on 2.4ghz do yourself a favor and buy an adapqter that isn't from 1999 and has 5ghz where it wont matter lol

minor plaza
limpid light
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or 6ghz even ha

austere patio
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It's impossible to predict. There are 17+ 2.4GHz WiFi networks near me and Zigbee works fine 🤷‍♂️

limpid light
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You'd have to have some serious interference for it to not work

minor plaza
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Okay, awesome, thanks!

limpid light
surreal mural
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Is there any way to swap one sensor for another in HA and have it continue logging as the initial sensor, instead of as a separate one?

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I bought a new Hue Motion sensor, but one of the outdoor units, to replace an indoor unit I had installed outside.
I'd like to put the new sensor in place and have it continue logging the info under the same name and dataset of the old sensor.

grizzled kettle
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Make a backup first if you're concerned about losing the data though

grim igloo
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that sounds right

surreal mural
fair owl
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Any recommendation on an affordable humidity sensor? Looking at the SONOFF SNZB-02

grizzled kettle
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Xiaomi BLE temp/humidity sensors are like $5. Work great if you have a bluetooth proxy like any ESP32 around.

waxen sonnet
fair owl
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What will be the downside of using BLE?

carmine hamlet
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I'm trying to migrate to a new USB TubesZB coordinator and I cannot get the IEEE address from my other coordinator to stick - it just reverts back to the original. I've put the adapter into BSL, I can flash and verify firmware through ZigStar and cc2538-bsl, and it acts like it programs the IEEE address, but it just doesn't stick

grizzled kettle
# fair owl What will be the downside of using BLE?

Only thing I can think of is its not a mesh, so you may need multiple BLE proxies depending on what kind of range you're triyng to cover. My house is full of ESP32 projects in various places so that's no problem for me. Otherwise I think they are great value.

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Only time I would consider something else is if you already have like a really robust zigbee mesh, than maybe you would consider a zigbee device.

fair owl
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Indeed I already have a zigbee network.

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Not sure if it will introduce more interference if I am adding another BLE network

grizzled kettle
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Well then you'll have to consider if you want to pay more for a zigbee device(s).

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BLE isn't really a network and creating interference wouldn't be a concern, it just chirps out a couple bytes of data every few minutes, basically nothing.

fair owl
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I do have a few ESP32 project laying around the house. Adding BLE is also an option for me

grizzled kettle
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those will work fine, then you don't need any new hardware other than the sensors

fair owl
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How is the battery life?

grizzled kettle
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year-ish on a coin cell, probably varies depending on settings. there are supposedly new firmwares that are even better you can OTA

austere patio
carmine hamlet
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z2m, but I haven't actually started it with this coordinator

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I just haven't seen the new IEEE address reflected in either tool

austere patio
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I'm pretty sure it works, it just doesn't read the secondary IEEE when writing it

carmine hamlet
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You can see two successive runs of cc2538-bsl there with a new IEEE address, and yet the second time it still reported the original

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same with ZigStar - write the new IEEE address, and the old one pops back up

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ah, so it's writing the secondary?

austere patio
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Try forming a network first and see what the reported IEEE is: pip install zigpy-cli && zigpy radio znp /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_TubesZB_971207DO-if00-port0 form && zigpy radio znp /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_TubesZB_971207DO-if00-port0 info. Re-flash it to delete the network.

carmine hamlet
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I expected the primary to change, but perhaps that's wrong

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ok, yeah, looks like it took

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that's confusing

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thanks for the pointer

dire owl
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Saw this in my logs
Something to be concerned about?

Source: runner.py:179
First occurred: 5:00:18 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 5:00:18 PM

NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart
austere patio
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What coordinator are you using?

dire owl
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Skyconnect zha

austere patio
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Multi-PAN or normal Zigbee firmware?

dire owl
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Normal zigbee

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On x.x.1.4 fw

austere patio
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That error can mean one of many things so it's hard to tell. It just means that ZHA had to re-connect to the coordinator, either because the serial port was closed, or because the firmware reset. Without more logs you can't tell what happened. How are you running it? VM?

dire owl
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HAOS

austere patio
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HA OS on what?

dire owl
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RPi4 4GB

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It my first time seeing it, maybe a one of

quiet sentinel
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If you disable allow join on ZigBee2mqtt will it still let existing devices rejoin?

#

I checked the logs and I keep accidentally stealing my neighbours lightbulb

carmine hamlet
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No

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Once you permit it will allow it, though

quiet sentinel
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Is there a way to only allow devices I've already added?

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It looks like they've already returned it once the poor people lol

iron flare
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I use my Phillips Hue motion sensors with a SONOF USB coordinator within HAOS. A few days ago one motion sensor stopped working, i thought the batteries were empty so i replaced them with new ones. After that the sensor didnt want to reconnect to my HA. SO i thought, ill reset it and re-add it to HA.. well, rip, it doesnt doe that anymore. Is there a way to fully reset a phillips motion sensor besides holding the 'setup' button for about 10 seconds? or does anyone have suggestions what i can do?

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The light is blinking orange for pairing mode when i reset it, does that for like 3-5 min, and then it stops. In the meanwhile im searching for it with the Zigbee automation intigration, but nothing shows up.

hybrid cloud
hybrid cloud
iron flare
fallow citrus
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I have changed coordinators and have re-paired almost all my devices. But if I re-pair "Office Light", the entire zigbee2mqtt crashes. How can I "remove all memories" from a device, so it does not re-pair but just pair from new.

jaunty maple
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I hold my aqara vibration sensor right up next to the router i want it to connect through and still it goes for the main coordinator anyway.

sour shadow
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Use the option to pair via that router

quiet sentinel
whole vigil
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My ceiling has 8 hue ceiling lights which I am attempting to turn off when a button is pressed

#

When the button press event is triggered

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it turns off the lights

#

but often misses one or two lights

#

the same happens for the turn on process

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Any advice?

jaunty maple
sour shadow
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With the dropdown in the Z2M UI?

jaunty maple
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OMG i did not know that existed! Thank you!

sour shadow
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Everybody ignores it

jaunty maple
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haha

sour shadow
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I think it needs sparkles or something

jaunty maple
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for sure! It's exactly what i need with these finicky aqara devices that decide to live their own lives

grim igloo
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That sends one multicast across the mesh instead of 8 unicasts which cause the behavior you’re seeing

austere patio
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8 unicasts isn't a problem though, they should all (eventually) work. Sounds like interference to me. What coordinator are you using?

grim igloo
austere patio
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I can do 30 without issues, it just takes about five seconds

grim igloo
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Well they all turn on but there’s multi second delay

#

That’s not acceptable in my book

#

Instant in a zigbee group

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And synced together as dumb lights do

untold obsidian
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Hi all, I made my first steps in the world of zigbee dev boards to overcome some solution gaps in the ready-made offerings. I managed to get my US-100 ultrasonic sensor connected to a c2530 board in a first trial/error activitiy and was wondering if others re using this too AND/OR if there are other options to develop zigbee alike esp. https://ptvo.info/

grim igloo
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Yikes

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I think you’re gonna have a bad time with that old chipset

sour shadow
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For an end device it'll be fine

near echo
soft saddle
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Hey all, I migrated my Hue lights to Z2M, bringing over around 26 lights. Now when I have automations that turn off rooms, I'll sometimes get a straggler. For example, my end of the night automation turns off 6 rooms, and I'll have 1 or two Hue lights that don't end up turned off. I checked the lights, they are in the room, and a manual turn off of the straggler works, so it's in the mesh properly. Is this just a matter of one piece of the system getting overwhelmed? Should I add a couple of seconds delay between room off commands?

sour shadow
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Use a Zigbee group

dim moon
soft saddle
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No, HA rooms.

sour shadow
soft saddle
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I'll take a look, thanks!

grim igloo
dim moon
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Use Z2M Groups - one command to rule them all rather than spamming your mesh

grim igloo
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I just explained why above

untold obsidian
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Thanks for the response... appreciated and I forgot to mention that I am a bit of a noob on this, via aforementioned website I managed to program a board with my limited knowledge so this seems easy. I would not know how to progress with other solutions. ptvo is sort-of straight forward with a gui and pre-fixed stuff (although limited) @near echo

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any other websites that can help me on zigbee dev boards?

soft saddle
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I imagine the Hue Hub used to take care of it that way.

grim igloo
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It does things different and worse

soft saddle
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My next challenge is to figure out a replacement for the nice dynamic scenes it had.

grim igloo
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Dynamic?

soft saddle
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It had scenes prebuilt with a designer color pallet, and it would cycles lights in a room through the colors.

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So the forest walk one would be shades of green, and each light would work through the colors in a rotation.

grim igloo
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I see

subtle jewel
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What are your best and cheapest Zigbee light bulbs picks? I don't mind ordering from aliexpress, etc. Just want the best bang for my buck.
I need some Whites, and some color. All dimmable.

grim igloo
soft saddle
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Oh, there you go, re-point the Hue app at the emulated hue bridge.

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Thanks!

near echo
untold obsidian
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but it is indeed on the 'old' boards...which I did not even know they were old before you and others mentioned it above

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as he made a nice set of pages, it is easy-ish to get started

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but I also donot want to use a Trabant if I can drive a Golf

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in short: my main challenge is ignorance

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it would be nice if a esp-similar solution / dev existed on zigbee

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or maybe it does: see above ignorance

dim moon
near echo
austere patio
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Matter over Thread is no different from Zigbee and is arguably more rigid. It's just a different approach than ESP stuff, you can't get around learning the internals if you want to make something that's actually Zigbee and not a custom protocol on top of Zigbee primitives.

molten linden
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there is a working (I think) implementation of esphome for thread (via nordic nrf) - it's documented in the forums. the dev seems to come and go though. around the beginning of the year there was some beginning talk of how to get it merged into esphome proper. 🤷🏼‍♂️

grim igloo
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sounds promising if dev comes more and goes less

austere patio
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Though if you just use Thread, that's a different scenario, since it doesn't care what application layer is running

near echo
jaunty rover
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guys any guide to update zigbee firmwareof ikea components through ZHA?

austere patio
jolly narwhal
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@molten linden known issue with the round poe coordinator just stopping responding ? came home from vacation and it just keeps both LEDs lit if I replug it 🤔

molten linden
#

do you get a green led?

jolly narwhal
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Both the CHRG1 and PWR1 stay on

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nothing else

#

Didn't respond to ping at least, so I replugged it, same LEDs

#

might have to hook it up to serial

molten linden
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no green means ethernet isn't connecting. can you try a reflash of esphome binary over serial/usb - need to slightly removed from case

#

you can't use powered ethernet and usb at same time

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🔥

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but can use unpowered ethernet and usb. just be sure it's not powered.

jolly narwhal
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aye, I'll give it a shot over USB

molten linden
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you can at least see the serial console log that way too, I suspect you are going to see something like this esp_eth: esp_eth_driver_install(215): init phy failed

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we should take this to a thread or dm too for troubleshooting

jaunty rover
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zha:
zigpy_config:
ota:
ikea_provider: true # Auto update Trådfri devices

austere patio
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Yes

jaunty rover
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is there a way to see in the logs something?

jolly narwhal
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you can at least see the serial console

austere patio
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It takes a few minutes per bulb and an hour or two for a battery-powered device

jaunty rover
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no need to add ikea URL then..... thanks!

jolly narwhal
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now I can't for the love of Dog get zigbee2mqtt to use the old ZZH 🤔

molten linden
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as long as you have a current backup in the z2m config folder I'd recommend trying to reset the zzh completely and let z2m restore it on startup.

fallow heron
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hi! new here. is this the right place to talk about ikea and dirigera integration?

jolly narwhal
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yeah, I've reflashed the zzh with two different versions of koenkk firmware @molten linden so now I'm trying my cc1352 instead

molten linden
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what's the z2m error?

jolly narwhal
# 
Using '/app/data' as data directory
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-18 19:35:57: Logging to console and directory: '/app/data/log/2023-04-18.19-35-57' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-18 19:35:57: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.30.3 (commit #24c6b2e)
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2023-04-18 19:35:57: Using zigbee-herdsman with settings: '{"adapter":{"concurrent":null,"delay":null,"disableLED":false},"backupPath":"/app/data/coordinator_backup.json","databaseBackupPath":"/app/data/database.db.backup","databasePath":"/app/data/database.db","network":{"channelList":[20],"extendedPanID":[221,221,221,221,221,221,221,221],"networkKey":"HIDDEN","panID":6756},"serialPort":{"path":"/dev/ttyUSB0","rtscts":false}}'
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-04-18 19:35:58: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-04-18 19:35:58: Exiting...
    at SerialPort.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.ts:146:28)
    at /app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:112:18
Using '/app/data' as data directory
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very little helpful 😄

molten linden
#

not sure it's liking the serial port

jolly narwhal
#

I've tried the /dev/serial/by-id too, but it is hard to know if it works inside the container when the z2m container restarts immeditatly

molten linden
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if you were able to flash it, serial coms to it would be working okay. so has to be container passthrough I would think

jolly narwhal
#

yeah, my thought too

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trying to cc1352 now for giggles

carmine hamlet
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maybe baud rate?

jolly narwhal
#

I've never used baud rate with texas intruments boards

#

cc1352 gives same non helpful error message

#

so is probably container passthrough

#

Guess I'll try privileged Shrug

#

aye, privileged worked

#

🤢

jolly narwhal
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currently 0 devices are joined

#

never lost devices going from cc1352 - zzh - tube

#

so this is weird

carmine hamlet
#

Changed the ieee address?

jolly narwhal
#

trying that now

#

I've never done that before when migrating at least

#

which makes it even weirder

#

I deleted config dir

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and restored it from backup with zzh stick

#

now it works

molten linden
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maybe didn't have a backup

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and retore did

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so it restored stick

jolly narwhal
#

I tired restoring the coordinator backup json multiple times from the same backup, no avail

#

probably the database and backup out of sync

#

after a few reboots

molten linden
#

yeah

jolly narwhal
#

now that I'm up and running again the wife will be happy, since I'm leaving the country for work for three days 😄

#

now to examine the tube poe a bit more

sage plume
#

anyone been using this Salus SP600 smartplugs? getting some conserning behaviour that if they lose connection to zigbee2mqtt (or the zigbee controller really) they seem to power-cycle? Dunno if anyone has seen this behaviour or better, knows how to get them to cut that shit out 😄

long quiver
#

So, I have a "Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus" and have configured about 10 devices to it. Over the last couple of months, they've just been dropping their connection and have become "Unavailable" - Now literally none of my Zigbee devices can be reached. I've just updated my HA and HA Plugins from their December 2022 versions to the latest, I've reconfigured my Zigbee stick with an a new config backup - the backup from December 2022 gave an "unknown error" when importing.
Any ideas what to do?

austere patio
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Post a debug log (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#debug-logging) of the backup failing to restore. Do note that Zigbee backups aren't something you can roll back to if they're for the same network, since they don't include any information about connected devices and only the network settings themselves.

long quiver
#

Ok, I didn't know that - would a full reconfigure, after the plugin and OS update, be more feasiable?

#

But the backup/restore was for the same network...

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hmm

austere patio
#

ZHA backups don't store anything that would allow you to jump back to a point in time. Think of it like restoring a backup of your WiFi network: all it would contain is the network name and password, it won't make old devices reconnect.

long quiver
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@austere patio Thanks for the insight - I'm just gonna go for a full reconfiguration then

austere patio
#

What version of the Sonoff Zigbee dongle are you using? Does ZHA start up after a full HA restart?

fair mountain
#

Can anyone recommend Zigbee puck lights for under cabinet lighting? So far I only found one seller on Aliexpress.

ashen compass
#

Hey all, I’m looking to start adding zigbee devices to my home assistant through zigbee2MQTT

I was thinking about ordering the sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle, which to my understanding is the zigbee coordinator. So this will allow me to connect all supported devices listed here: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/

long quiver
#

@austere patio Now that you ask about it, I actually checked the log after the most recent restart, it does look at bit weird reguarding ZHA 😕
[0xD431:1:0x0b04]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [TimeoutError(), TimeoutError(), TimeoutError(), TimeoutError()]
[0xD431:1:0x0b04]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>')]

austere patio
#

Looks like the stick is functional so it's not a firmware problem

long quiver
#

about version, is "Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus" not specific enough? Is there revisions?

austere patio
#

There are two completely different sticks with the same name 😄

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That is the first one

long quiver
#

how weird about two versions - are one of them prone to be less reliable?

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@ashen compass Yes, that's correct - all those devices should be able to connect to the Sonoff dongle

austere patio
#

Yes but not in any way that's affecting you. You mention having ten devices: which ones?

ashen compass
long quiver
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That's all I have as well 🙂

#

afaik, that dongle and HA can replace the need for any propritary Philips Hue/Ikea/whatever gateways and just connect directly

ashen compass
#

Okay that’s what I was thinking too. Thanks!

finite grove
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Hi all, i've got the skyconnect set up in home assistant and have a zigbee device registered with it, however i'm trying to set up the multiprotocol support for thread, and when i try in the hardware settings, it says "The hardware options can only be configured on HassOS installations."

#

please tell me that thread isn't only for the purchased hardware

#

I am running my instance in docker

tropic depot
grim igloo
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he's confused with how to switch to multipan i think @tropic depot

drifting flare
#

Should I be able to get events in Home Assistant for devices that I have bound in Zigbee2mqtt?

drifting flare
# drifting flare Should I be able to get events in Home Assistant for devices that I have bound i...

I'm using Zigbee2mqtt+Mosquitto addons in Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi 4B with a Sonoff USB 3 Plus. I'm learning about Zigbee groups and binding by trial and error 🤯 Question: I've bound an IKEA shortcut button to two light devices (in the UI: Zigbee2mqtt > Devices > IKEA Shortcut Button > Bind). Now the controller [zigbee2mqtt] does not log any on/off events. I tried to also bind the button to the controller [coordinator] but that failed.

sour shadow
drifting flare
drifting flare
sour shadow
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I'm telling you that you get no events

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ZHA works with events, Z2M doesn't

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Z2M works with MQTT - you get MQTT messages and state changes of entities

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If you bound a button to a light you may not get any more updates from the button, depending on whether it's bound to the coordinator or not

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Either way, ensure that the lights are bound to the coordinator

drifting flare
drifting flare
rapid dawnBOT
#

@drifting flare When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
#

You have to wake any end device to configure/bind/whatever it

sour shadow
drifting flare
sour shadow
#

@drifting flare you don't

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@drifting flare have to

#

@drifting flare ping me on

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@drifting flare every fucking reply

#

Question: I've bound an IKEA shortcut button to two light devices (in the UI: Zigbee2mqtt > Devices > IKEA Shortcut Button > Bind). Now the controller [zigbee2mqtt] does not log any on/off events

#

You said it wasn't reporting on/off... now you say it is... which?

drifting flare
#

I want to get the button press as an event in Home Assistant (via Z2M) even though it is bound to the lights in Z2M

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I think that your reminder to wake the device before clicking bind might be the missing clue

drifting flare
drifting flare
#

Can I call a Z2M device effect from a Home Assistant automation?

drifting flare
sour shadow
drifting flare
#

Thank you! Effect is right in the GUI, and works as wanted. I'd been trying to use Device, and ignoring/unaware of Service.

obsidian locust
#

Hi, I just updated to HA OS 10.0 and now Zigbee2MQTT won't start. It times out trying to talk to my Zonoff Zigbee 3.0 dongle. I've tried the things in the URL referred to by the error and it seems ok, ie. I don't have ZHA and I can write to the USB-port. It worked before on 9.5 and the only change was upgrading HA OS to 10.0.

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-04-19 16:26:41: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:103:27)
at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29)
at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:58:27)
at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:101:27)
at start (/app/index.js:107:5)

Any suggestion where to look next?

sour shadow
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Have you rebooted?

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Did you check to see that it's shown in HA's hardware menu?

obsidian locust
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Yes, several times. 🙂

It is there in the hardware list, the dongle that is. Tried to reattach it too. As well as using it in Zigbee2MQTT through /dev/ttyUSB0 and the "/dev/serial/by-id..." with the same result.

mighty river
#

hi, i wanted to get a zigbee device for my home assistant setup, my current one isn't properly supported in zigbee2mqtt and doesn't allow me to add an install code for my bosh device
i was looking at the sonoff zigbee dongle and couldn't help but notice they have two variants
the older -p is listed as supported in zigbee2mqtt
the newer -e variant is listed as supported by zigbee2mqtt on the manufacturer's site, but on the zigbee2mqtt site it's listed as "experimental"
from this it would be obvious to take the older -p variant
however i read some users saying that it's more likely that the -e variant will get matter support in the future
my question is, what does "experimental" mean? will is and isn't supported? will i be able to add install codes?

austere patio
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Are you currently using a Conbee? Yes, the -P stick does support install codes, as does the -E. But I suggest you just buy a second stick for Thread (for Matter), they're not that expensive.

mighty river
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yes i'm currently using a conbee II, i bought it before i even knew what zigbee2mqtt was
I don't see a reason as to why i would need to get a second stick for matter? wouldn't one stick be perfectly capable to support both matter and non-matter devices?

austere patio
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Not quite. Multiprotocol support requires special (somewhat experimental) firmware and an addon to communicate with the stick. Z2M would no longer talk directly to the stick anymore. Using a separate stick for Thread is simpler because Z2M would have its Zigbee stick, and OTBR would have its Thread stick.

mighty river
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oh, all right, i didn't know that
thanks :)

obsidian locust
grim igloo
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Magic

molten linden
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that error is magic too. it appears out of thin air

limpid finch
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Guys I really need help with Zigbee2MQTT on home assistant. I setup and everything is super smooth. Then every few hours (sometimes a whole day), I start having big delays on any actions that I do, such as pressing switch and turning on lights. I looked at the log and seems that a lot of devices go crazy and start publishing messages MQTT non stop, then my actions kind of get in the queue and thats where the delay comes from. How I can prevent this? It just happened now. I noticed the delay, when I pressed, went to the logs and things were popping up.

Here are the logs https://dpaste.org/xS9eT. Any idea on whats going on?

As you can see it all started with my action to turn on the lights at "Info 2023-04-20 07:46:49MQTT publish"

mighty river
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Whats everyones favorite zigbee smart button?

crystal kite
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Please someone help me. How do I set this Aqara motion sensor up.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNmHB9W

I followed guides online. Bought a sonoff e dogle. The dogle shows up in HA and even identifies the sensors. But they just say unavailable

I’ve spent entirely too much time trying to figure out why they won’t work

https://imgur.com/a/yM1jNaV

fair mountain
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unavailable means they haven't been seen by the controller

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they aren't super reliable, so some of that is expected.

nova crest
sour shadow
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Also, what Zigbee routers do you have, and which one is it connected to?

crystal kite
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When it first connected it briefly said detects motion, gave battery % etc.
@nova crest I’ve read that before and tried that but it did not work
@sour shadow I bought a sonoff zbdongle-E

sour shadow
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Right.... so no routers then?

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Did you at least put the dongle on a USB extension cable?

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Did you pick the Zigbee channel with the least interference?

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Is it in the same room as the "dongle" (aka coordinator)?

crystal kite
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I have an ax110000 for an internet router but not sure what a zigbee router is

No I don’t have an extension cable but I tried when it was right next to it and it didn’t work

sour shadow
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Zigbee is a mesh network, you need Zigbee routers

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You also need a USB extension cable if that computer has any on-board USB 3.0, WiFi, or Bluetooth

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Or pretty much anything else, but those three will absolutely kill Zigbee

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If you've got WiFi stomping all over your Zigbee channel then that's also not helping

austere patio
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Can you also download diagnostics for the ZHA integration and upload the JSON somewhere (e.g. https://dpaste.org/ )?

sour shadow
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And, if it's more than about one drywall away then it's probably too far from the coordinator

crystal kite
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I’m searching to figure out what you mean by zigbee router and what I need. I’ll get a usb extension but I don’t know if that’s it since It’s 5 inches from the dongle and won’t show available. But has no issues connecting initially

sour shadow
austere patio
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The USB extension cable is to move the coordinator away from interference sources. If there's a lot of noise coming from a USB 3.0 port, it doesn't matter how close the motion sensor is, because the coordinator will not reliably be able to hear it.

sour shadow
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The top pinned message shows this really well

crystal kite
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Is there an alternative way to set up the Aqara sensors without zigbee

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I’m just too lost at the moment

austere patio
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No, they communicate exclusively over Zigbee

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Start by uploading your diagnostic information, use a USB extension cable, and see if you have another battery for the sensor to try out.

crystal kite
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How do I find diagnostic information

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Is .5m long enough for usb extender

austere patio
austere patio
crystal kite
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I don’t have ZHA but I have SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2, is that the same?

austere patio
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Yes

crystal kite
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is this file safe to send over discord?

sour shadow
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404 Snippet not found

rapid dawnBOT
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@austere patio I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
sour shadow
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At least channel 25 is ... not as bad

austere patio
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ZHA picked the best channel it could (25), but it's probably still too noisy. Use a USB extension cable.

crystal kite
crystal kite
austere patio
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You Zigbee channel number is 25. From the energy scan above, you can see that the channel has about 60% utilization. but nearby channels are 99% utilized, so your coordinator is in a really noisy environment.

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So you should use a USB extension cable

fair mountain
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wow. surprisingly using the end of a microusb cable opens the aqara battery compartments the easiest

silent lintel
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I'm finally getting around to moving refactoring my MQTT stuf and noticed this guy in my configuration.yaml What exactly is this?

  - platform: mqtt
    name: Bridge state
    state_topic: "zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state"
    icon: mdi:router-wireless
sour shadow
silent lintel
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This is a sensor correct?

sour shadow
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Depends on what heading it's under, but probably

silent lintel
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Awesome thank you Tinkerer!

fair mountain
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Is there any way to prevent particular devices from acting as routers on a mesh? I have some Inovelli switches which I installed and since I put them in my mesh performance and reliability has been destroyed. I want to rule them out.

clear tapir
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Router designation is dependent on the devices that you buy. For instance, zigbee switched outlets that plug into the wall (sonoff) are routers. Even so, some manufacturers that plug in to the wall are not routers. You need to read the fine print.

austere patio
onyx briar
fair mountain
onyx briar
fair mountain
onyx briar
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Hmm

fair mountain
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As soon as I started installing them my network started having problems, I thought it was due to ser2net - wasn't. Thought it was the CC stick, so I switched to Embernet stick and the issues still persist.

austere patio
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Use a sniffer and check out the packet capture, it's unlikely that they drop child devices

fair mountain
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@austere patio I am capturing traffic as we speak.

onyx briar
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I'm curious how it will go

fair mountain
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@tropic depot suggested it may be the Inovelli's, hence why I was asking about removing them as routers. I might just drop them from my network and see what happens.

austere patio
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Are they fully up-to-date?

fair mountain
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yes, 2.14

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Since I installed Inovelli's I've had problems with a number of hue lights, my hue motion sensors, my aqara water, door sensors.

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Example: the hue light will still respond to the switch its bound to, but it wont respond to the mesh and everything behind it is unresponsive too. if I power cycle it, it will start to work again.

austere patio
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That's something a packet capture would clarify

fair mountain
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@austere patio for sure, i dont know what to look for exactly, though. ive alreayd sent one pcap to @tropic depot

austere patio
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Correlate it exactly with specific events and shoot it over to me or him (make sure to include your network key), I'm sure something specific will show up. Make sure to also include the NWK and IEEE addresses of the affected devices.

fair mountain
austere patio
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Well you have your HA instance up and the logbook, just note exactly when this stuff happens. It's not obvious from the PCAP without a ton of searching.

fair mountain
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ok

limpid finch
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Whats the best way to debug delays with zigbee devices?

fair mountain
austere patio
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The log you linked to contains neither so I'm not entirely sure what you mean

fair mountain
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140636718836288 seems to occur every time a select_option for StartupOnOff fails

proven pelican
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would it be totally outrageous for a zigbee plug that is otherwise working normally, to suddenly stop reporting consumption data to HA?

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It's apparently been broken a while so I don't know if a HA update broke it or something else

austere patio
proven pelican
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I guess a better question is that, if i can see values changing live in DeCONZ, then there should be a way to get them to show up in HA right?

limpid finch
limpid light
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@limpid finch what's your stick

limpid finch
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I have flashed with the latest firmware already. Any idea?

limpid light
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Yeah I had that issue too

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Also latest firmware

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Think it's just the sticks fault

limpid finch
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Wow. Did you ended up solving it?

limpid light
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I somewhat solved it by making my vm reboot once a day

limpid finch
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And you are still doing it?

limpid light
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Yup

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I just make it reboot in the middle of the night

limpid finch
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That's interesting. You never found the reason then?

limpid light
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My machine is fast so it only makes 1-2 minutes downtime

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My wild theory is some kind of memory leak or similar on the stick itself

limpid finch
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Did you knew that by restarting the add on things would solve it? I thought at the start that I had to reboot my vm as well

limpid light
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I noticed if I throw alot of commands at it, it bogs down pretty bad

limpid finch
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I was wondering this. Because I noticed that the problem starts happening once I start messing with HA

limpid light
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Yeah it doesn't handle rapid fire commands well at all

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To be fair I was trying to make a light show with all my bulbs

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Which is about 30 hue color bulbs lmao

limpid finch
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I also have a power plug that sends a lot of messages to Zigbee2mqtt when my washing machine is running. Do you think this could also bog it?

limpid light
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Possible

limpid finch
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Do you know I can can set to send "less messages"?

limpid light
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I have 2 zigbee outlets that do the same and no real issues there

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Where I noticed the big issue before I started daily reboots is my zigbee motion sensors would sometimes delay by like 30 seconds

limpid finch
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Also did you try running ZHA? You are the first person that is having the same issue as me
I looked everywhere and couldn't find a single post about it

limpid light
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Mine is zha

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Directly connected to the machine with usb extension cable etc etc

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Running in VMware VM with more power/ram than 99% of setups

limpid finch
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This really answers a lot of my questions. Thanks for the help

limpid light
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Np

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The reboots do help a ton though

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Haven't had the 30 second delay issue since

limpid finch
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Seems that the issue is the stick then. But uts weird. A lot of people have the same one and I dont see they complaining about it

sterile sleet
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what can I do to make zha/z2m as robust as can be?
I know cutting power to routers is bad and no go. I saw devices falling off and also z2m neglecting comms with devices for whatever reasons. Situation is a little bungalow in the woods, cutting power is a must as security precaution. I still want them to reconnect when I return and the sensors (most battery) should keep working

limpid light
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On the zwave side though

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I got the aeotec stick 7

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And I couldn't be happier

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This thing is a beast

limpid finch
limpid light
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No

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I just don't try to make it into Christmas lights anymore lol

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Under "normal" usage I don't have any issues since the automated daily reboot

limpid finch
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Cool!!! Do you know if we flashed another version of the firmware the problem could go away?

limpid light
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No idea

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I too flashed the newest firmware with hope for a fix

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Didn't help

limpid finch
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Also you said about memory leak. Is there a way that we can see this? I don't know if thats your case. But my delays keep building up until a restart. Like it never get better, only worse over time

limpid light
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@sterile sleet why must you cut power. I'm curious

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@limpid finch truthfully I have no idea, it's just a theory

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That's what it kind of behaves like

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I don't know if it is or not

sterile sleet
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the building is made out of wood, the cabling is 30 years old. I don't want to power all of it when nobody is there in winter

limpid light
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And I don't know enough about zigbee inner workings to debug it myself

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So why do you need anything active when nobody is there

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And there is no power

sterile sleet
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bad stick makes you all kind of trouble in zigbee world, what stick is it?

limpid light
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Like what's the objective

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Sonoff 3.0+

limpid finch
sterile sleet
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I have cameras watch wildlife and also a birdnet pi running, at this point I just want a zigbee mesh to use cheap sensors

limpid light
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@limpid finch yeah for sure

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@sterile sleet what are the cameras connected to

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Are you trying to get notifications or something?

sterile sleet
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memory leak highly unlikely for that effect alone, as said the coordinator is the most important

limpid finch
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Great thanks a lot. Looks like Im not crazy or doing anything wrong then. If you are running ZHA on a really nice computer. That throws all my theories that was that add on the issue

sterile sleet
limpid finch
sterile sleet
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I have no idea what coordinator you have

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I use a zzh

limpid light
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@sterile sleet no like what are you using to view the cameras

sterile sleet
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ha

limpid light
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I assume you want the sensors to view them remotely or something

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Or to let you know there is footage

limpid finch
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Seems like its really Common in the market so I wonder why they dont face this issue

sterile sleet
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I just want to connect hue motion sensors and their temperature sensors to get a sensor for temperature inside. And I don't want them to occasionally fall off. guess I'll just try they work fine at home

limpid light
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Ah I see

sterile sleet
limpid light
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What gets killed when you kill the power?

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Like which routers

sterile sleet
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most of the routers, coverage is fine though

limpid light
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Bulbs?

sterile sleet
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yes

limpid light
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Yeah that sounds tricky

sterile sleet
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indeed

limpid light
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My only solution would be to replace the bulbs with endpoints and not routers

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I think sengled is endpoint only

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Then build a router network with things you can have battery backup power on

sterile sleet
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see thats where the project gets expensive 😄 and I am a cheap dog

limpid light
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Or even solar/battery

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To be fair a cabin the woods would be easy because mo interference

sterile sleet
#

maybe I go wifi in that particular case

limpid light
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So you could in theory remove all the bulbs

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And leave only routers with power on HA

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And then restore a backup and put the bulbs back when you're in cabin

sterile sleet
#

ah the backup and restore is a nice idea

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will need to try it out thx

limpid light
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When you remove them from. The controller just make sure the bulbs are not powered

limpid finch
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I really appreciate both of you helping me out. Getting really desperate since I tried a lot of things already. I will go with the vm restart strategy. But would love to know how to understand more about rhis problem

limpid light
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Or else you will have to reinclude the bulbs manually

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Because ha tries to reset the bulb

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When you exclude

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Or just make two zigbee networks

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Get a hue bridge for bulbs

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And then zignee stick for the always on network

sterile sleet
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lol thats perfect I have a gen 1 laying around

limpid light
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Bruh you can get a Gen 2 on ebay for like 10 bone s

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Lol

sterile sleet
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so I can keep my battery devices on zzh and the bulbs on the bridge so that I can just yank the power to the bulbs

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no need for any more gen, the 1 is good enough for that

limpid light
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Fair enough

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And just slap a router on an old car battery to bridge any gaps

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Bahaha

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@limpid finch unless you're going to become a zigbee programming expert don't sweat it

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I'll likely try some other sticks and see how they do too

limpid finch
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That's cool I would love to hear how do you go. If you strategy of rebooting vm everyday works I will let you know as well!

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2 more things. How do you setup you vm reboot? Trough oracle?

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And also, did you realise if you close and restart vm software the usb doesn't show up. You gotta physically remove it and insert again. Or reboot the whole computer

limpid light
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@limpid finch no with VMware you can auto connect removable

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Also you can use a scheduled task with VMware or HA can do it too

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They really need to allow images in these channels

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Check DM

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Dead simple automation to reboot host

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Also stop using virtual box is just.. BAD

limpid finch
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Thanks will check it out, messaged you

drifting flare
rare robin
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Are there any good mmwave zigbee sensors. In the us

sour shadow
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Aqara FP1 works well, Tuya do two that're better in some ways and worse in others

rare robin
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Thanks I'll check out.

limpid light
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Is the mmwave response time significantly faster?

sour shadow
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There's plenty of reviews out there that compare them

limpid light
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yeah reading one now

sour shadow
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I have the FP1, it's fine once you understand how to use it

limpid light
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But sometimes reviews are fucky and uh, influenced

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cough paid reviewers cough

sour shadow
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There's two main Tuya options, one is broadly the same as the FP1, one is .... not as good

limpid light
sour shadow
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Yeah, that's not a bad review

limpid light
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Thanks

sour shadow
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TBH I'm happy with my FP1

limpid light
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Yeah i think i'll test drive one

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I use a ton of motion sensors

sour shadow
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I use it in my home office and have found it to be damn good - at least once I moved the desk fan back a little so it wasn't in direct line of sight from the sensor

limpid light
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i can't remember the name of it, but there was a super sensor coming out that can track multiple people

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and even if you're sitting or standing

sour shadow
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FP2

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Or possibly Xandem

limpid light
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yeah im eager to drive that one and see what it can do

sour shadow
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Very occasionally the FP1 will be slow to turn off, or somehow detect people through the wall, but only if they're leaning up against the wall

limpid light
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I have a bunch of really cheap sensors i use for non essential stuffs that actually work ok

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They take aaa batteries which i have tubs of refillables

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For how cheap they are I can't complain

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but there's a few I want super fast response times on. I'll try the FP1

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Can't find it on amazon though. Shucks

sour shadow
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For simple motion sensors I find both the Aqara P1 and the Linkind motion sensors are reasonably priced and snappy

limpid light
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They already have it listed but out of stock

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might just wait for this to come in

sour shadow
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To quote somebody else damned pricy

limpid light
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Yeah not a fan of aliexpress either

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lol

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at least with amazon i know if shit doesn't work I can send it back no issues

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I'll just wait for the FP2

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it looks better too

grim igloo
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You just need a translator

limpid light
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Does taobao mean conterfeit garbage? kekekek

grim igloo
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It’s pretty common with Ali e stuff to be super cheap to the mainland facing site taobao

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But people can still order from there

molten linden
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there are fowarding services but add to the cost obviously

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they will but it for you, take pictures of it then pack and ship

grim igloo
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Ah forwarding services are required?

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I haven’t actually tried before

molten linden
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for most taobao stores yes

grim igloo
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Bummer

molten linden
#

they only ship to mainland china

shell bison
#

Is there a problem with Zigbee2mqtt with Operating system 10?

grim igloo
#

A guy I knew in china was telling me about them and linking to deals

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Didn’t realize I could never actually buy them lol

molten linden
#

you can it's just not as easy

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lol

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I was keeping my eye on something through wegobuy

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but ended up with an alternative

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some one in another discord used it for pnp feeders 😉

sour shadow
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The logs - as always - will tell you if that's your problem

limpid light
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yooo why didn't anyone tell me this existed

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buy now

shell bison
sour shadow
limpid light
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LOL

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Well, this is for cats. They don't quite have that level of strength

sour shadow
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That's a good thing 😄

limpid light
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my wife bought a chinese bullshit wifi one

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Which I scolded her for of course

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And locked it away on it's very own VLAN

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attached to a smart outlet to kill the power when it's not in use

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kkekek

grim igloo
limpid light
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That isn't home brew

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I have an automation that opens my garage door automatically based on my location but for security purposes it's off most of the time unless I switch it on, usually a few blocks from my house

sour shadow
limpid light
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I tried using wifi but it's just way too slow given it has to authenticate and all that

sour shadow
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There's a bunch of options, but no Zigbee ones

limpid light
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I do have a working setup with a zwave button though

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So now a zwave remote functions as my garage door opener lmao

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put some innoveli bulbs outside and it works great

sour shadow
#

There was a SmartThings Zigbee presence sensor, but that was discontinued years ago

naive ivy
#

Anyone know if it's possible to wake an Aqara door sensor (lumi.sensor_magnet.aq2) to attempt a reconfiguration in ZHA, without removing and re-pairing entirely?

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I've got one that goes unavailable shortly after pairing and does not come back

austere patio
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Older generation Aqara sensors do not accept configuration so the "reconfigure" button will do nothing

naive ivy
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well dang

austere patio
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They just join the network, briefly allow their model name to be read, and then send updates whenever they feel like it

naive ivy
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I wonder what's going on with this thing in the first place. It dropped offline probably almost a year ago and I assumed the battery had died. Threw a new battery in it yesterday and it was still unavailable, so I removed and reconnected it

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Then it worked for a little while and went unavailable again

austere patio
#

Aqara sensors pick their parent router at random. Find the device closest to where the door sensor will be installed (e.g. a bulb in the same room), permit joins only through that specific device, then re-join it to your network

naive ivy
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Oooh I forgot that I could do that

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There is one routing device within about 15' and everything else is about double that distance. And the sensor is out in the porch, through a metal door and lots of old plaster.

austere patio
#

Any way you can install a Zigbee porch light?

naive ivy
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Oh, wait. The porch light bulb is a routing Zigbee light 🤦‍♂️

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I guess I'll remove and re-pair from that one directly

austere patio
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You don't need to remove it

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Just add via that specific bulb and reset the sensor

naive ivy
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Just put ZHA into join mode from that bulb, and reset the sensor?

austere patio
#

That way, your device and entity customization will be intact

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Yep

naive ivy
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Awesome. I hate renaming entities

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Cool, it's back online. Just gotta wait a few hours and see if it stays that way

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Thanks for the help 👍

#

Also I swear these two sensors didn't previously show temperature in HA. Am I crazy, or was their maybe a quirks update that added it?

austere patio
#

Yeah, they have a very low-quality temperature sensor on their chip (as do Aqara motion sensors, buttons, etc.). It was previously hidden but it's now visible because people found it useful.

naive ivy
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Yeah, for me the temperatures are not very meaningful with both sensors on exterior doors, but that doesn't stop me from bringing more pointless data into one of my dashboards 😀

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Integrate all the things

jaunty rover
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hi guys, @austere patio helped me a couple of days ago with the update of ikea zigbee devices but unfortunately it seems not to be working, i put the relevant parameters in config.yaml but nothing happened... any directions on how to force the updates?

austere patio
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How do you know nothing happened?

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There's currently no feedback in the user interface, the lights just update on their own in the background

jaunty rover
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hi again puddly! well. i looked at the version of the devices and nothing changed basically..... maybe it does not get reflected there?

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basically the number on the firmware... thats were i looked at

austere patio
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It should be accurate, but these devices don't receive OTA updates frequently so it could just not have had any OTA updates. What firmware version is it showing?

jaunty rover
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almost forgot... i also saw in here:

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ok i cant paste a picture here.... but i saw the ws_build_id in the cluster attributes

jaunty rover
austere patio
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The exact version will be OTA > current_file_version

jaunty rover
austere patio
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What's the device's model name (the exact one shown in the same device info section)?

jaunty rover
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Styrbar Remote Control N2

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ok so this is copy paste from de device section
Remote Control N2
by IKEA of Sweden
Connected via Zigbee Coordinator
Firmware: 0x00010024

austere patio
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Ignore the first section, the screenshot is the only necessary part. You should keep the device awake when sending the command.

jaunty rover
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yes! i tried that as well... now that i see it i did not put 0 on the last three fields.... i will try again.... should i wait also a day to see a change probably?

austere patio
#

You can follow the progress in the debug log, it'll take an hour or two

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Make sure to also set the query_jitter to 100

solid hollow
#

Question -> I am migrating from Hue to Z2M. I moved a Philips Hue remote which used to register button clicks 1-5 ... now it only shows up as holds and clicks. I read somewhere ZHA will give you the 5x tap feature - can anybody confirm thats the case?

jaunty rover
# austere patio Make sure to also set the `query_jitter` to 100

this is what i get in te log:
2023-04-21 14:33:11.050 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0xD301:1:0x0019] OTA query_next_image handler for 'IKEA of Sweden Remote Control N2': field_control=FieldControl.HardwareVersion, manufacturer_id=4476, image_type=4555, current_file_version=65572, hardware_version=1, model='Remote Control N2'
2023-04-21 14:33:11.051 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0xD301:1:0x0019] OTA image version: 581, size: 218698. Update needed: False
2023-04-21 14:33:11.051 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0xD301:1:0x0019] Sending reply header: ZCLHeader(frame_control=FrameControl(frame_type=<FrameType.CLUSTER_COMMAND: 1>, is_manufacturer_specific=False, direction=<Direction.Client_to_Server: 1>, disable_default_response=1, reserved=0, *is_cluster=True, *is_general=False), tsn=6, command_id=2, *direction=<Direction.Client_to_Server: 1>)
2023-04-21 14:33:11.052 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0xD301:1:0x0019] Sending reply: query_next_image_response(status=<Status.NO_IMAGE_AVAILABLE: 152>, manufacturer_code=None, image_type=None, file_version=None, image_size=None)

austere patio
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What do you have in your config file? It looks like the IKEA provider isn't enabled.

jaunty rover
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exactly this:
zha:
zigpy_config:
ota:
ikea_provider: true # Auto update Trådfri devices
ledvance_provider: true # Auto update LEDVANCE/OSRAM devices
salus_provider: true # Auto update SALUS/Computime devices
inovelli_provider: true # Auto update INOVELLI devices
thirdreality_provider: true # Auto update 3REALITY devices
otau_directory: /config/zigbee_ota # Utilize .ota files to update everything else

austere patio
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And you restarted HA after modifying the config?

jaunty rover
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yes

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may it be due to the otau_directory?

austere patio
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No, they all work concurrently. Everything is correct according to the log, including the manufacturer ID and the image type. The problem, however, is that the response should have been "no update is needed", not "no image available". This points to either the IKEA OTA provider not loading, their URL being blocked, or HA wasn't fully restarted.

jaunty rover
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oh..... pihole..... let me check

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no..... no blocked sites...

austere patio
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Look for zigpy.ota in your Home Assistant log file. What shows up?

jaunty rover
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2023-04-21 15:34:24.163 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.ota.provider] Trådfri: OTA provider enabled

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seems ok

austere patio
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What about DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.ota.provider] Trådfri: Finished downloading firmware update list?

jaunty rover
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let me see if i find something like that...

austere patio
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Feel free to send over the whole log file and I can take a look

jaunty rover
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seems that the file is too big...

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@austere patio

naive ivy
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wellp that aqara sensor I was having trouble with just failed to report an open and close event, but at least it hasn't gone unavailable yet. Guess I'll wait and see what happens still.

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And replace it with something else entirely if it doesn't behave

austere patio
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Try swapping in a fresh battery too. Their battery percentage is not reliable.

naive ivy
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Oh yeah, it's brand new as of yesterday, since I figured it had gone offline due to dead battery

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Though the 1632s I bought were random brand from Amazon so I might have to put a meter on it to verify

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pretty much nothing I have reports battery correctly/often enough, whether it's zigbee or zwave. Which is kinda annoying.

onyx pebble
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Is there good documentation somewhere on how to get ZHA working with SkyConnect? I haven't had any luck since it auto-updated the firmware a while back.

austere patio
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Then it will work with ZHA normally again

onyx pebble
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Thanks - I'll give that a try.

onyx pebble
austere patio
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About 30 seconds

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Nothing else is accessing the SkyConnect, right?

onyx pebble
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No - connected to my desktop not the HA server

austere patio
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What browser are you using?

onyx pebble
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Chrome. v112.0.5615.121

austere patio
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And the web flasher was able to detect the currently running firmware and let you select new firmware to install?

onyx pebble
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Yeah - I selected the top choice for Zigbee.

austere patio
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Does it give you the option to download a debug log?

onyx pebble
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No - just stuck on the Installing firmware pop-up with progress 0.0%

austere patio
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Hmm, that's strange. I would unplug it, reload the webpage, and plug it back in to try again.

onyx pebble
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Ok - updated drivers to latest from the website, even though my computer was detecting SkyConnect with the older drivers. Showing Currently has Multi-PAN (RCP) 4.2.2 installed.

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Firmware has been successfully installed. Thank you!!

proven pelican
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I switched to ZHA from deCONZ cause I was having issues with this smart plug, but I seem to be having similiar issues with ZHA. I can manually read an attribute from the manage zigbee device page, but it does not seem to updated on it's own. Any ideas?

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disregard, google fixed my problem 🙂

grim igloo
proven pelican
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did the reconfigure and it just started working, simple as that 😄

naive ivy
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Well my problematic aqara sensor went unavailable again, so I guess I gotta double check these batteries

hybrid cloud
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is there anything i can do to "fix" a device who gives terrible battery readings? aka inaccurate or inconsistent

hot fable
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hey guys, i've not done anything with zigbee yet but want to - i was looking up various options and found the skyconnect zigbee usb dongle - how well does that work with HA and things like aqara door/motion sensors? i don't know what other things i would use that are zigbee yet - should i get something else like a sonoff equivalent?

jolly python
hybrid cloud
hybrid cloud
unique pebble
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Hi guys, beginner question. I have installed sonoff zbmini l2. I paired it through zigbee2mqtt, I use sonoff zigbee dongle E. And now I have no control on it. It doesn’t respond to any command. I see it is connected but doesn’t respond. Any ideas what to check? Cheers

hot fable
hybrid cloud
# hot fable i'm always down for getting something to future proof even if it's a bit more up...

it depends if youre going z2m or zha. skyconnect is on the recommended list for zha, which makes sense as it was purpose built to run multi protocol with zha and t hread, but its still experimental on z2m. anything on the recommended list is a good choice provided you know how to connect it and flash it (if necessary). take a look at the recommendations for z2m or zha depending on your integration of choice

iron flare
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I havent sadly.. i just bought a new one.. i was tired of throubleshooting it.

hybrid cloud
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get a switchbot to tap on the pairing button every hour 😂

hollow flint
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I have a Rpi4 and I bought Sonoff Zigbee USB Dongle, but in Zigbe2Mqtt there is always this error: 502: Bad Gateway

ashen compass
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Look at the pinned messages

rapid dawnBOT
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If you're getting a 502 from an add-on then the add-on isn't running.

On Zigbee2MQTT a common cause is having only one Zigbee coordinator/stick and also having enabled ZHA or deCONZ.

hollow flint
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So where's solution?

sour shadow
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Did you check your add-on logs yet?

hollow flint
sour shadow
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Did you check your add-on logs yet?

hollow flint
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what are add-on logs?

sour shadow
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The logs, for the Z2M add-on

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Available in the add-on UI

hollow flint
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ooooh

sour shadow
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but in Zigbe2Mqtt there is always this error: 502: Bad Gateway

hollow flint
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no i have it

sour shadow
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No shit

hollow flint
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z2m is short ok

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[16:15:33] INFO: Preparing to start...
[16:15:34] INFO: Socat not enabled
[16:15:35] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:42: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-04-22.16-15-42' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:42: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.30.3 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:42: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.103)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:43: zigbee-herdsman started (resumed)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:43: Coordinator firmware version: '{"meta":{"maintrel":3,"majorrel":2,"minorrel":6,"product":0,"revision":20180507,"transportrev":2},"type":"zStack12"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:43: Currently 0 devices are joined:
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:43: Zigbee: disabling joining new devices.
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:43: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://localhost:8485
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-04-22 16:15:43: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 127.0.0.1:8485
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-04-22 16:15:43: MQTT failed to connect, exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:43: Stopping zigbee-herdsman...
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:44: Stopped zigbee-herdsman
sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-04-22 16:15:43: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://localhost:8485
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-04-22 16:15:43: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 127.0.0.1:8485
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There you go, it can connect to your broker

hollow flint
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how do i fix this?

sour shadow
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  1. Don't use locahost - use core-mosquitto
  2. You are running the Mosquitto add-on?
hollow flint
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yes

sour shadow
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Then (1) applies

hollow flint
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so mqtt://core-mosquitto just this?

sour shadow
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With the right port number

hollow flint
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That is specified below?

sour shadow
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Well, I don't know what you've done with your broker

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You know, hopefully

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The default port for MQTT is 1883

hollow flint
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It doesn't still work with neither

sour shadow
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Your broker is working?

hollow flint
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nope, again same error

sour shadow
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You've tested it with something like MQTT Explorer?

hollow flint
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I'll try

sour shadow
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Well, different error if you actually changed things

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Obviously you'll need to use the IP of the host running the broker

hollow flint
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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-04-22 16:23:35: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.0:8485

hollow flint
sour shadow
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It's software you install on your laptop/desktop/whatever

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Drop the two words into your favourite search engine

hollow flint
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I downloaded it, now I have MQTT connection in app