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forest saddle
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So these Sonoff ZBMINIs, it seems you have to either open the in-wall box again to pair if needed, or leave the power off for 10 seconds and it will go into auto-repair mode. What if there’s a power outage? Does it go back to being paired after a while?

onyx briar
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My sonoff devices have been pretty good about picking back up the network, I haven't tried any of the in wall versions

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I'm using ZHA and it's been pretty good at recognizing devices that have already been paired

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Based on the wiring diagram I found it looks like it's always powered and handles the switches

grim igloo
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The FP1 actually does react fast if you use the right event. The YouTubers that reviewed it all missed this but robc pointed it out a while back

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I changed my automations to use them and now I’d say it’s probably as fast as my hue motion sensors

tropic depot
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Yup I mentioned to them too 🤷🏻‍♂️

grim igloo
tropic depot
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Nothing secret

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Many are in here

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🤷🏻‍♂️

grim igloo
onyx briar
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I know this might have already been discussed, but has anyone else had issues with the IKEA scene or on/off buttons? Mine will work maybe 25% of the time

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The IKEA remotes I have work fine but the smaller button devices don't seem to send information after they're added to the network

peak vapor
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remove and readd maybe. dunno but I've seen weird behavior with the ones I've paired until it's "all good" too but after that no issues

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Z2M or ZHA?

onyx briar
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ZHA with the Sky connect, I've tried re-adding but I still get the non responsiveness

rare night
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Seeing many issues with ZHA on some of the latest versions 2023.4 101 issues open. Wondering if this is just coincidental or if the issues I'm seeing are part of ZHA and I should just quit and double down with Z-Wave.

  • Brand new Aqara sensors losing 25% battery in 1-2 days
  • Hue bulbs initially paired, but now unavailable & won't re-join after deleting
  • Powered devices also go unresponsive
  • Reconfigure doesn't complete successfully, even for devices that appear responsive
    Rather frustrating for such simple devices; my HUE bridge is 6 years old and I was hoping to ditch it completely after wiping all bulbs and disconnecting it in favor of my Nortek HUSBZB-1 stick, but now connections seem so unstable I'm re-considering Zigbee entirely. Any guidance appreciated.
onyx briar
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I've noticed some hiccups with the latest update, but overall I'm happy with the ZHA performance

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There does seem to be pretty frequent updates. I find I need to do a full system reboot to clear any weirdness

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I was having issues that I couldn't track down until the first April update, then I got a repair warning that my thread channel wasn't the same as my ZigBee network channel. My ZigBee was on 20, and the thread default's to 15. I had to remove the thread network and readd it

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This might just be a skyconnect problem

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I had been having issues of scenes not fully starting or transitioning properly

limpid light
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the hue bridge is way better than that

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even with my sonoff 3.0 stick the hue bridge just performs better with hue bulbs

tulip patrol
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@forest saddle you can turn the switch off and on 10 times and it will put the zbmini into pairing mode, this works for zbmini-l not sure about zbmini as that has never gone offline for me

rare night
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The Sonoff 3.0 stick seems fairly popular

austere patio
grim igloo
limpid light
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@grim igloo I almost gave up on zwave entirely because of that stupid nortek

late berry
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hey everyone, I'm trying to debug my new Aeotec (formerly SmartThings, also Samjin) multipurpose sensor, the door sensor using the magnet works fine, but it does not properly update temperature or acceleration (I can force update temperature by looking up the TemperatureMeasurement measured_value attribute, but it won't do it on its own)

grim igloo
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In my head Aeotec are zwave only. Didn’t realize they had zigbee stuff

austere patio
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Click the "Reconfigure" button

late berry
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was hoping to use it to detect when my dishwasher is running, I'm not sure the vibrations will be enough to trigger it but it hasn't updated the temp either and it rose by over 10C over an hour

late berry
late berry
austere patio
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Make sure the sensor is awake

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Click buttons on it, move it around, trigger the door sensor's reed switch with a magnet, etc.

late berry
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I'll retry once I can manipulate it, hopefully simple as that

late berry
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even with opening/closing the door repeatedly half the bindings fail in the reconfig but in spite of that it looks like it's actually updating both acceleration and temperature now, so I'll see if it lasts

silent dew
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I'm trying to get my Hue bulbs connected. I have reset them with the remote. They were previously paired with a Nortek stick with no issues. Trying to get them working with an HA Yellow. Even practically next to the HAY the bulb doesn't show up.

austere patio
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Where is your Yellow positioned? Near any SSDs, USB 3.0 devices, WiFi routers, etc.?

silent dew
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Not near wifi... SSD? No, I don't think so unless m.2 NVMe counts.

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USB 3.0 devices is pretty vague. 🙂

austere patio
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Any active USB 3.0 ports

silent dew
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I was able to pair an old Iris motion sensor.

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But I can try moving the yellow away from any other equipment. 🤷

austere patio
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If the bulbs aren't trying to join the Yellow's network, it usually means one of three things: they haven't actually been reset, the Yellow isn't permitting joins, or there is too much interference.

grim igloo
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No auto scan for zigbee yet for zha right?

austere patio
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What do you mean by "auto scan"?

grim igloo
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Automatic energy scan

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Thought the other day you mentioned it in beta

austere patio
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It's been in stable since 2023.4.0

grim igloo
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So he should already be on the best channel if he set it up after that?

silent dew
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@austere patio So let's address those one at a time. I'm fairly certain they are being reset. I have the hue remote (literally got it today, so not paired with anything). Turn on light, hold remote near bulb, hold down power. Bulb turns off, on, and eventually shows green color, then steady white. That should be reset, correct?

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What would be an indication of the second thing of Yellow not permitting joins? (I joined the motion sensor just an hour ago)

austere patio
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If you can join stuff, that part works

silent dew
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And as far as interference... It's now practically sitting in the middle of a room by itself. No change.

austere patio
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Leaving just interference or the Hue bulbs not resetting properly. I don't have a Hue remote to test, unfortunately, so someone else that has used it to reset the bulbs may need to chime in.

grim igloo
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I believe that’s accurate but a couple of my bulbs I had to reset twice with the remote

silent dew
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This particular bulb has probably been reset 10 times.

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It's good and reset lol

grim igloo
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If you still have a hub you can join to the hue hub then delete the device in the hue app. That 100% makes it automatically start trying to join a network

silent dew
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That I don't have.

grim igloo
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Shouldn’t need to just an option

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Btw you’re trying to join bulbs closest to the coordinator first right?

silent dew
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I have one about 2 feet from it.

austere patio
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Try moving it further away

silent dew
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Looking for that sweet spot....

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One sec.

austere patio
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I can join mine rooms away, through multiple walls, so it's not really a distance thing. But it could be if you're way too close.

silent dew
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About 10 feet away now.

austere patio
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And is it a PoE Yellow, or a non-PoE Yellow? If the latter, are you using the included PSU or a generic one?

silent dew
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Non-PoE, included PSU

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Moved to 10 feet, no dice. Also tried another bulb in another room. Nada.

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Logs don't show anything useful that I can tell.

austere patio
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Which points to the Hue bulbs, unfortunately. Scanning and joining is done by the device, not the coordinator, so if you see nothing in the logs, nothing has attempted to join. Are you resetting the bulbs within a minute of clicking the "Add devices" button?

silent dew
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Yes.

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I have only tried 2 bulbs so far. Let me try some of the others I have.

austere patio
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I don't mean they're defective, it's just that they're likely not resetting properly. I think you can form ad-hoc networks between the bulbs and the remote, without a coordinator in the mix. If you can, find a video or something that shows your exact combination of devices. Even simple ones like bulbs that reset after an off/on pattern aren't easy to get right 😄

silent dew
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I'll take a look.

grim igloo
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I’m seriously wondering if there isn’t a hardware defect on certain skyconnect and yellow si chip devices given the amount of people who either have no issues or all the issues and nowhere in between

silent dew
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I think you nailed it @austere patio....

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I just hit the power button on the remote... All the bulbs turned off. 🤦‍♂️

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So instead of resetting the bulbs it was pairing them with the remote!

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I didn't even know that was a thing

grim igloo
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Ya it’s useful for certain scenarios

silent dew
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I'm sure... But not right now! lol

grim igloo
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I followed the directions on the z2m site with resetting via remote

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Maybe look there and see if those directions differ from what you’ve been doing

silent dew
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I wonder if it's because I have the dimmer with the on/off on the same button?

shadow radish
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hi everyone!

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My problem is: after 2023.4 upgrade installation lost connect with devices connected router but not coordinator

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not just my HA more than 3 home system too. i am using zigbee2mqtt

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After upgrade any device can't join, an i can't see anything when i am trying it on th log window

sour shadow
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HA upgrades don't have anything to do with Z2M - your problem is unrelated to the update of HA

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Check the logs in Z2M

odd kestrel
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How do I make my hue bulbs default to a normal white when they receive power, instead of turning blue?

shrewd pewter
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I unplugged the zigbee stick and plugged it back, for some reason Zigbee2mqtt created new entities on HA, oldnames + "_2"
like Kitchen_1 became Kitchen_1_2
and I still have all the old entities, that are unavailable

Is there any way to solve this?

silent dew
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It seems that resetting with this remote is not possible. I think I'm going to try the hue-thief with my nortek stick.

warm delta
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I am having a problem with zigbee2mqtt, I installed it as docker container, it connects to my mosquitto server, but when I try to see the web panel I get this error ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

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why could this be?

peak vapor
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as an add-on inside HA or do you mean independent docker containers you're managing?

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oh wait you said it connects together. are you trying to see the web panel for Z2M? how are you trying to connect to that?

warm delta
forest saddle
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Do you have frontend: defined in your configuration.yaml? Which port?

rapid dawnBOT
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@fair mountain I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

echo yarrow
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that was quick, magic cube arrived.

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but pairing it is no bueno.

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press button for 5 seconds, get 3 flashes and nothing.

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grabbed an extra z31zb and it paired right up.

neon orbit
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Hey everybody, I have been trying to install my Tuya Smart Sockets. The guide says "add them to the smart life" app.
The Smart Socket just won't connect to the app, after many resets but INSTANTLY connects to my Zigbee2MQTT web interface the moment I allow it. What gives?

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Do I not have to connect it to the app anymore?

fair mountain
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How long should it take for a Zigbee network to 'work' again after a firmware updaet? im like 30 minutes in and the controller keeps dropping off.

neon orbit
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Would be nice I guess

grim igloo
fair mountain
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It's starting to see traffic, but keeps disconnecting:

2023-04-11 17:17:33.967 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0xD4C8](lumi.sensor_motion.aq2): Update device availability -  device available: True - new availability: True - changed: False
2023-04-11 17:17:35.445 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Trying to reconnect to socket://192.168.5.100:5678, attempt 21
2023-04-11 17:17:35.446 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.uart] Connecting to socket://192.168.5.100:5678 at 115200 baud
2023-04-11 17:17:35.449 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.uart] Opened socket://192.168.5.100:5678 serial port
2023-04-11 17:17:35.451 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.uart] Connected to socket://192.168.5.100:5678 at 115200 baud
2023-04-11 17:17:35.451 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.api] Toggling RTS/DTR pins to skip bootloader or reset chip
neon orbit
# grim igloo No…

So many guides telling me to connect it to the app first and then to Zigbee

grim igloo
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Well you can’t pair to two things at once

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Once it’s on your zigbee mesh you control it with hass

grim igloo
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Whether the hass app or webui or automations or whatever

neon orbit
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The Tuya integration integrates all Powered by Tuya devices you have added to the Tuya Smart and Tuya Smart Life apps.
All Home Assistant platforms are supported by the Tuya integration, except the lock and remote platform.

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well sounds good to me 👍 if I dont have to connect it to their app we good

grim igloo
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Try to not buy tuya man

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Better hardware exists

neon orbit
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I gotcha, it just got recommended to me I guess in this discord 😅

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but for now if it measures the power consumption I am happy

grim igloo
fair mountain
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Gonna assume this means the network is trying to 'settle':

neon orbit
grim igloo
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Lol

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Some people suggest them without knowing better

neon orbit
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So what Smart Socket that measures power consumption in the EU would you recommend? My goal is to map out ALL energy consumption per device.

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if I ever find the guy that recommended me Tuya, I cant hold myself accountable

fair mountain
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wee~ the network is starting to come back

neon orbit
echo yarrow
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magic cube is about to become magic baseball.

echo yarrow
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I'm trying to get it to pair with z2m.

grim igloo
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I did whatever the z2m docs say

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Might’ve had hell I forget

echo yarrow
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docs with the cube say 5second press is reset/bind

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and use the "app"

grim igloo
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What does the z2m product page say?

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That’s what I follow

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Not ‘docs’ that come written in broken English from a Chinese company lol

echo yarrow
grim igloo
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Wow that’s surprising

echo yarrow
grim igloo
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Most product pages on there are really good with pairing instructions

wide grotto
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Just added 3 hue bulbs using zha. One of the three lights turn on when motion is detected in another room. It's not added in the automation that turns on the bathroom light, and in the log of the hue light it is triggered by service light.turn_on . Any idea what causes the issue and how to remedy this?

echo yarrow
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just had to keep tapping the button. looks like it is paired now.

grim igloo
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Cool

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Now check out the blueprint above

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It’s sweet

fair mountain
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When ZHA does an incomplete add I see ..

2023-04-11 18:05:59.480 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.appdb] Error handling '_save_attribute' event with (mac, 1, 0, 5, 'VZM31-SN') params: FOREIGN KEY constraint failed

grim igloo
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That there is puddly talk

austere patio
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It won't add a device to the database until it completes the basic initialization, which is just reading model/manufactuer info, endpoints, and clusters. These are logged under DEBUG because they're not errors 😄

grim igloo
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Hot damn

fair mountain
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discord did something weird to it.

grim igloo
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If I say puddly backwards three times fast in a mirror do you appear?

fair mountain
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I just flashed CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20230410.hex and im waiting for the network to recover

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its been an hour lol

austere patio
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It should take a minute, max

fair mountain
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with 166 devices?

austere patio
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Device count doesn't really matter all that much beyond routes, which will be rebuilt on demand

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Does the network work?

fair mountain
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It's working now, kinda

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But for the first while Iw as seeing controller disconnects

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It was doing this.

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and yes im aware USB serial cant be sent RTS

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so I either rebooted the machine or reconnected the USB device

mellow geode
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If it’s a Bluetooth bulb, can you add it through the Hue app and then click the „factory reset“ button there? (Then, allow joins with ZHA)

austere patio
silent dew
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No bt bulbs. V2 dimmer switch. These bulbs are at least 4 yrs old.

fair mountain
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I've restarted HA like 30 times

mellow geode
fair mountain
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So my process was:

  1. Upgrade the stick
  2. Plug the stick back in
  3. Restart HomeAssistant
austere patio
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That should be enough

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If it's not recovering routes, that's entirely handled by the firmware

fair mountain
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the whole zigbee network is kinda screwy. even light switches i have directly bound to light switches are responding slowly

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.. bulbs

austere patio
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That definitely isn't controlled by the coordinator

fair mountain
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only started since the upgrade of the firmware, so idk what to say

silent dew
mellow geode
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Did you power cycle the light once before trying the reset process (holding both buttons)?

silent dew
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Absolutely

mellow geode
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It’s a security feature to not allow touch link resets after 30 minutes of being powered on

silent dew
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Never more than 30 min for sure. Never more than 5. 😁

mellow geode
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Hmm. Resetting on v1 and v2 dimmers is done with holding both the first and fourth button though

silent dew
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So that is supposed to work?

mellow geode
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Yes

silent dew
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Did I mess up at some point trying to pair the dimmer? Which did work...

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But it will try with doing the top and bottom buttons again.

mellow geode
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Well, when you pair the dimmer directly without joining it to a real network first, it’s not reset

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Holding the buttons 5–10cm near the socket should work

silent dew
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Right now I think I have the dimmer reset and not joined anymore.

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So yeah. I will try with the top and bottom buttons again. Thank you for the guidance.

mellow geode
silent dew
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Ok. That's good to know.

mellow geode
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If you have a v1 dimmer by chance, then also try that

silent dew
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I do not.

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What was happening before was that I was pairing the bulbs directly to the dimmer so they weren't even trying to pair with anything else. That's what holding down just the top on/off button on the V2 does.

grim igloo
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so he has the new v2 dimmer and it doesnt reset them?

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or it should and he's just having issues?

silent dew
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@grim igloo that's what I'd like to know. 😁

mellow geode
mellow geode
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Same as with the v1 dimmer

silent dew
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I'll try that again.

fair mountain
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lol and there goes the coordinator again

silent dew
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Will report back tomorrow.

echo yarrow
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cube is joined and shows up in a card on overview, side updates and action changes. imported the blueprint and it doesn't see the device or entity.

grim igloo
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are you using zha or z2m?

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there is a different blueprint for each

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then directions for adding a helper or two i dont remember

echo yarrow
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z2m

grim igloo
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well i linked to the zha one above lol

fair mountain
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Network seems stable now

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this is gonna be fun

molten linden
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New Fw for them just finally came out today too. (not in json provider yet though)

errant raft
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Hi I'm looking for some support/help

I posted in the #general-archived channel just before but...

Fairly recently I picked up a Skyconnect USB stick for Zigbee, and I've successfully connected a couple of devices to it (Both Hue Lightbulbs and Linkind leak sensors)

After everything was connected and vaguely working I couldn't leave well enough alone and saw the update to matter firmware button....

And now the leak sensors don't work

Am I SoL, and in need of downgrading the firmware, or is there a compatibility button I can press somewhere?

The errors are pretty obtuse and seem to be very protocol levelish

fair mountain
molten linden
astral jacinth
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I have several Ikea TRADFRI bulbs that have worked fine with ZHA before but the one I just paired is showing up as a switch instead of a light. Is this a known issue? I can't figure out what's going on.

fair mountain
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the docs are lacking on zha and i dont see this anywhere

molten linden
fair mountain
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OH.

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got it 🙂

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Inovelli seems super responsive, I had a problem with a stripped neutral in one of the switches and they authorized an RMA with the seller

echo yarrow
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I think the cube is defective.

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it hasn't been seen in 57 minutes.

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trying to get an automation working.

grim igloo
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Did you join it to a specific router?

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Is it the new cube or old

echo yarrow
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tubez coordinator.

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not sure. ordered off amazon yesterday.

grim igloo
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Do you not have repeaters?

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Is it the t1 or pro cube or older model

echo yarrow
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t1 pro

grim igloo
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I see

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I have the old ones but should be fine with new now

echo yarrow
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I've got sonoff outlets around the house.

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I'm 20 feet from the coordinator if that.

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when I first paired it I could flip sides and watch that stuff change in z2m.

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now nothing.

grim igloo
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Re pair it

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Iirc some sonoff devices blackhole routes but I don’t think the plugs do

echo yarrow
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z31zb outlets

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well that's nice.

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crashed the database.

peak vapor
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anyone bother getting a new antenna for the sonoff dongle?

echo yarrow
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hmm. reddit post is saying they had to update firmware to get the t1 pro to work right.

scarlet haven
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If a quirk for a ZigBee device becomes available will homeassistant automatically start using it or would I need to do something on my end?

rare night
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I m trying to get my Hue bulbs connected

echo yarrow
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it's a signal issue.

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walk ouit into the living room where the coordinator is, and it works.

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less than 20 feet. 😦

peak vapor
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20 ft to your living room. must be nice having so much room lol

echo yarrow
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house is 1500 sq feet.

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it's not a mcmansion

peak vapor
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ah lol

echo yarrow
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living room is 13 by I think 18?

peak vapor
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one floor or two?

echo yarrow
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2

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vaulted ceiling in the LR though, so it's 1 flor same with kitchen.

peak vapor
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that shouldn't be too bad to cover with signal though

echo yarrow
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2.4ghz is no problem for wifi.

peak vapor
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even 5ghz really

echo yarrow
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laptop will drop from 5ghz to 2.4ghz if I close the hall door.

peak vapor
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is it a steel door lol

echo yarrow
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access point is at top of stairs.

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no, wood/composite/hollow core

peak vapor
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oh huh

whole vigil
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I just paired my Tradfri Motion Sensor with my Zigbee Controller (Skyconnect) however the motion sensor always just says motion is 'clear'

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despite me moving infront of the sensor

mellow geode
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What HA version are you running? Also, try "reconfiguring" the sensor (or just re-pairing it).

whole vigil
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HA OS

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9.5

mellow geode
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And the HA Core version?

whole vigil
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the latest

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2023.4.2

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i setup ha like 3 days ago

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The device reconfiguration failed. Additional information may be available in the logs.

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This is in logs rn: [0x8E75:1:0x1000]: 'async_configure' stage failed: 'ControllerApplication' object has no attribute 'ieee'

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@mellow geode

mellow geode
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Do you know if it’s a first gen motion sensor?

whole vigil
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idk its been sitting in a cupboard for a while

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ill find the box

mellow geode
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Actually, can you what "Quirk" that device got?

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You can find it on the device page

whole vigil
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Quirk: zhaquirks.ikea.motionzha.IkeaTradfriMotionE1745_Var02

mellow geode
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Ok, should be running somewhat recent firmware at least

mellow geode
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Just try to allow joins again (Add Device button) and press the pairing button four times quickly again

whole vigil
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ok ill try

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do i need to delete the device first

mellow geode
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No, try without deleting first

whole vigil
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well it wasnt working without deleting

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so i deleted and redid it

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so ive readded it and now im at the same state as b4

mellow geode
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Hmm. Try again when HA Core 2023.4.3 is available

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I think it should already work at the moment though

whole vigil
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I have other motion sensors of different brands i can try

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like philips hue

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smartthings

mellow geode
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Yeah, should both work

whole vigil
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@mellow geode do you know how to setup the philips hue motion sensor

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with zigbee

mellow geode
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Allow joins and hold(?) the reset/setup button on the back

whole vigil
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i think the setup button is like a pin press or smth

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@mellow geode so ive setup my philips hue sensor

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and it gives Occupancy: Detected when I move past it

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but Motion remains as Clear

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is this normal? what does this mean? sorry to bother you so much

mellow geode
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Ah, that sensor is a bit weird. It uses the occupancy cluster for motion

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Just disable the "on/off/motion" entity and set the occupancy one to motion

whole vigil
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ok ty ill try that

whole vigil
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Motion sensor working all good.

upper stirrup
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Hi, someone tested Curtain wall switch with z2mqtt? I need this 14x for Somfy exterior curtain motors https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002758067519.html?algo_pvid=8be835ea-6341-49d2-b310-475a30c9041c&algo_exp_id=8be835ea-6341-49d2-b310-475a30c9041c-10&pdp_npi=3%40dis!EUR!48.63!25.29!!!!!%40211bf2da16812843107105907d07a7!12000032397410312!sea!SK!843976110&curPageLogUid=Tx89H1QQZhfL or is better Curtain module behind my switch? Price is same... 25€ smart switch or 13€ module + 14€ manual switch + more work. I don't know, advise which solution is better for long-term use in HA. thanks

whole vigil
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I have an IKEA light panel (irsta) which is connected to a light power supply that has zigbee connectivity

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How would I approach pairing the (hard to move) power supply driver to my skyconnect controller

ember valve
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Hey! Slightly unrelated to Home Assistant, but if I buy a Zigbee dimmer, and a normal Zigbee hub, and use the Tuya app to make a schedule for the dimmer to turn on and off, where is that schedule stored? In the dimmer, in the hub, in my phone, or in the cloud somewhere? I'm just trying to understand how the base technology works before I add Home Assistant on top of it all 🙂

sour shadow
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It would be in the Tuya cloud, or maybe in the Tuya Zigbee hub if you'd made the mistake of buying one

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The solution is to not use the Tuya app, or anything Tuya WiFi

ember valve
sour shadow
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Yes

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Then everything is 100% local, you have no reliance on a cloud service

ember valve
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Alright, and by port forwarding to the raspberry pi I can access everything in my home from my phone when I'm not at home I'm guessing?

sour shadow
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Or by using a VPN, or a Cloudflare tunnel

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All depends on what you want to do, and what you want to access

ember valve
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A slightly unrelated question but I hope it's ok that I ask it here; When you install HA on a RBP, is that a linux OS running on it then running the HA app, or is it an OS by itself? I'm wondering if I'm able to run other services on the RBP other than HA at the same time on it. Like a Samba server sharing a harddrive over my LAN, and a script that changes my DynDNS's IP whenever my own public IP changes.

sour shadow
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Then you'd want to use the Container install method, not HAOS

silent dew
ember valve
sour shadow
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You will need a USB extension cable for the "gateway", and you'll want to use it with ZHA, not Zigbee2MQTT

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The pinned messages here are worth a read

ember valve
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If I run my Pi with an ethernet cable rather than Wifi do I still need an USB extension?

dense tartan
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anyone know with the shelly 2 is each channel controlable?

near echo
sour shadow
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Improving your signal is never a bad thing

digital adder
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Hello I am new to HA 🙂
I got this zigbee PGST door sensor:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000085456965.html
I am trying to connect it using Zigbee2MQTT but I can't find the device.
The device seems to work by a red light when the second part attached.
I also managed to connect a "smart plug" to the Zigbee2MQTT.
any ideas what to do?

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I am using the sonoff USB dongle plus as a gateway

sour shadow
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Is your dongle on a USB extension cable?

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Never mind

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PGST Window Door Sensor for All *** 433mhz***

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That's not Zigbee

dense tartan
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YER 433MHZ will be talking back to its own base station

sour shadow
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Or your choice of other solution

hybrid cloud
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i had been using a plastic 3d printed adapter for my smart lock to fit my door (not the sturdiest, i know), and it finally gave way last night

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actually impressed tbh, it lasted just a few days shy of a year

brave otter
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What's the thought process behind the automatic naming of devices in ZHA? For example, adding a switch named "foo" get called switch.foo_switch, a light gets called light.foo_light. Why the redundancy after the underscore?

hybrid cloud
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well what would happen then if you had 2 different sensor entities sensor.device_update and sensor.device_illuminance

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so now do you want a standard naming scheme thats domain.device_devicetype or do you want to complicate it by doing domain.device_devicetype if devicetype != domain else domain.device

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so whatever devicetype is actually called, it makes sense to not complicate the process and just create a standardized naming scheme

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maybe theres probably a more technically accurate explanation but form a logic perspective, thats how i see it

frigid dune
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New to Home Assistant - trying to setup Conbee II

shrewd pewter
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yesterday all my zigbee2mqtt entities on HA (from MQTT integration) doubled with _2 at the end of each entity.
for example Kitchen_1 became Kitchen_1_2 and the original one became unavailable.

I spent about 1 hour to manually change all the new names to previous and delete the original entities.

Now after a restart, it has just happened again...
What should I do?

slate leaf
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Hey guys, I have MOSZB-140 Motion Sensor from Frient/Develco connected to RaspBee II and controlled by **ZHA **using this quirk https://bit.ly/416kASI . I am wondering, how can I trigger or implement a function to be able to trigger manufacturer specific attributes (atts, not clusters) ? I can't see them being implemented in the quirk and am unable to fire command from ZHA on specific cluster. This device supports 3 Occupancy states based on setup of Manuf spec attributes for each. 1st Occupancy will change it's state if movement detected + temp below target, 2nd if movement detected + temp above and 3rd if movement detected + Lux below. But these temp above/below and lux atts are not simply there. For more info please see develco technical documentation https://bit.ly/3MysoZ3 , page 21

sour shadow
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Why not just handle the logic in HA?

slate leaf
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Of course I can handle it in nodered, but why not to move unnecessary logic to device itself if it's its feature, right?

sour shadow
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Spreading out the logic makes it more likely you'll wonder why things are misbehaving when you forget what you did

slate leaf
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Well agree and disagree. There are pros and cons of both approaches. But that's for another topic.

digital adder
sour shadow
peak vapor
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@foggy gyro : seems like Ikea will stock the vindstryka for my store in a week or so

foggy gyro
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Same date is listed as the 18th for my local store

peak vapor
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guess I'll plan to pick one up to try it out

lethal ruin
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hello, I just blindly bought temperature and humidity sensor (TH01Z) but I didn't check if ZHA or zigbee2mqtt is supporting it or not. It has a temperature, humidity, and clock on the display. Sadly the whole thing doesn't work with my ZHA. It doesn't show any sensors, it's just an empty device in my Home Assistant. Is there any way to add it myself or at least help with implementing it in the ZHA? (Without any coding knowledge, maybe just sending some kind of info about the device to the right person...?) Would really love to see this device being added. Thanks a lot for answers and have a great day!

mellow geode
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What's the "manufacturer id"?

hybrid cloud
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I would also double check these sources, making sure you have the model listed exactly as it is in zha, on the off chance its different, or even spaced differently, you might find something on one of the two sites

hybrid cloud
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its not possible to expose energy on lights that dont have it by default is it? im guessing that its exposed if it is supported and if its not exposed that light doesnt support it?

lethal ruin
violet eagle
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Hi! I'm just getting back into HA and getting some zigbee devices going, is there a zigbee equivalent of the aeotec multisensor 6? I'm aware of the BRUH multisensor but that's very dated, is there a next gen version?

sour shadow
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What features do you want?

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Develco/Frient do one with light/motion/temperature

violet eagle
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That's exactly what I wanted!

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Thanks @sour shadow 🙂

sour shadow
grim igloo
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Can’t go wrong with hue multisensors

hybrid cloud
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i thought the hue motion sensor just did occupancy, i didnt realize it edid temp and illuminance too

grim igloo
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Temp is very accurate too

unborn pine
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Hi, is it possible to use Home assistant as a Zigbee hub?

slate leaf
# violet eagle That's exactly what I wanted!

Think where you wanna install that device before buy. Frient is nice device but motion sensors are being usually mounted on or near ceiling so the temp sensor might be useless unless you do some grouping with other temp sensors to get average temp. Also if you want that device only as informative element, you should be good. But if you start build a automations depending on that temp sensor you will most probably have to do that grouping as mentioned before or apply manual offset. However the difference might not be so drasticall in you flat/house, it depends also on your isolation and heating system you have. I live in old victorian house with high ceilings wich is not isolated at all and difference between floor and ceiling can be even 5°C . Other issue is TRV's are being mounted near floor so my automation is being driven by external sensor in more proper 1.7m height. In summary think first what you want to achieve and then buy device to build your project. Buying multisensors now might be fun now, but can be expensive later.

errant raft
# errant raft Hi I'm looking for some support/help I posted in the <#332167321311510530> chan...

In lieu of immediate h,elp I've done some more digging on my own

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Linkind_LS21001.html My device is listed as working... but there's a quirk under ZHA device handlers (https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/blob/dev/zhaquirks/linkind/a001082.py)

Is it possible that after the firmware upgrade the quirk isn't being "applied"? I have seen my device listed as "unk" manufacture/device, though that seemed to fix itself with time?

odd kestrel
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Why the crap is deconz so incredibly unreliable. Keeps dropping devices, and then when I try to re-add them, deconz refuses to actually send the deletion update to home assistant, so the device is just locked in

echo yarrow
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I think I need to beef up my zigbee network, or move it to a different channel.

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the only thing zigbee that I've found reliable besides tubes coordinator is the smartthings motion sensors, love those things.

neon orbit
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THe solution always is just spend more money

molten linden
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you can also run from a non ha machine just stop z2m first (before running scan)

hybrid cloud
errant raft
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We're still not 100% back, but alas, my lunch break is over and it's back to the drudgery of the office and enterprise Java

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wish me luck

echo yarrow
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@molten linden looks like 20 and 25 are less congested than 11.

molten linden
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You can use the same tool to change the channel

grim igloo
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You’ll have to re pair every device

echo yarrow
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that magic cube prompted this. 🙂

grim igloo
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Now is a good time to change network_key, pan Id, and extended pan id for security

molten linden
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Most mains powered devices will typically move fine

echo yarrow
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I set those when I set it up.

grim igloo
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Rare

echo yarrow
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did the "generate"

molten linden
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You’d just need to update the channel to match in your z2m config and in the backup

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I know people who have changed channels with minimal repairing if that’s what you are referring to as rare

hybrid cloud
echo yarrow
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yeah, almost double for that motion sensor.

hybrid cloud
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i had plans on getting the multipurpose door sensor when it was 20 bucks

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now its 40 and out of stock half the time

echo yarrow
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The zooz zwave stuff works well too.

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my buddy had like 10 zwave switches fail,. all GE brand.

grim igloo
echo yarrow
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his house is 8k square feet.

hybrid cloud
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never got zwave. when i switched over from smrtthings i still didnt have any zwave devices, so no reason to invest with matter/thread on the horizon

grim igloo
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I try to scream it from the rooftops

grim igloo
hybrid cloud
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then again i do live in a 1 bedroom apartment lmao

echo yarrow
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it's an interesting place.

grim igloo
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Palace?

echo yarrow
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like someone bought 2 properties next to each other then joined the houses.

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in Pahrump, NV.

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he refers to it as the mystery house.

hybrid cloud
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linus from ltt set up his new home with zwave and ha. hes made some...interesting choices

grim igloo
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Ltt is an idiot

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Best to ignore his existence

grim igloo
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Do they need to be power cycled or anything?

molten linden
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Zigpy-cli starts the network and sends out channel change broadcasts

grim igloo
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Oh with the python tool

molten linden
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You can do it a few times to make sure everything hears it

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Then you start up z2m after changing the config and backup so it doesn’t revert the channel

grim igloo
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How does that work tho? Like once devices move over don’t other devices lose the ability to talk to them?

molten linden
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Then you figure out what you have to repair

grim igloo
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Still sounds unenjoyable at best lol

hybrid cloud
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fix everything while more things break, ah my favorite game

neon orbit
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thats life brother

grim igloo
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No life is much much worse

molten linden
grim igloo
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Impressive

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I’m at 50 or so mostly hue bulbs. I need to change pan Id etc and have been putting it off

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I figured I’d wait til I bought one of your PoE coordinators then do it

molten linden
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Cool, just added more stock and reduced the price recently

grim igloo
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Nice the pick n place ended up a success?

molten linden
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As a time sink yes

grim igloo
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Lol

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Better than doing it by hand as you gain popularity tho right

molten linden
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There is a whole other discord for that

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For sure

grim igloo
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I still haven’t jumped into smd stuff

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I have an old HomePod to repair and need to buy a heat gun to fix it

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Couple tiny fuckin diodes 30 steps in need to be replaced

hybrid cloud
neon orbit
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Question, I think I forgot or messed up a step in my MQTT config/installation.
I am using docker-compose for the installation of my containers.

What I got running:

  • Zigbee2MQTT dashboard where I connected my first device (Tuya Smart socket) and I can see that it is working in the dashboard.
  • On the MAP in the Z2M dashboard I see my coordinator and my SmartSocket connected with a 128/139 link quality (decent)
  • In my home assistant I have made a new user and added a integration 'MQTT' and connected that to my HA ip, that connected smooth. (I did not adjust anything in there like the Qos)
  • on my host server I have mosquitto-data with data and log dir in there.
  • on my host server I have zigbee2mqtt-data with configuration.yaml coordinator_backup.json database.db log state.json in there. In the configuration.yaml file I have the newly added device in there.

The problem is.. the device does not show up in HA.

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Feels like im so close

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I might've found the problem in my Z2M config file.

permit_join: true
mqtt:
base_topic: zigbee2mqtt
server: mqtt://mqtt
serial:
port: /dev/ttyUSB0
frontend:
port: 8080

The server probably needs to be mqtt:// and then my ip address:1883 but im not sure

grim igloo
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uhh

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permit_join: true....

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what is you doin

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also i doubt ttyUSB0 is the right thing there

neon orbit
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its the right one

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also I am I guess learning but the official documents say put permit_join:true the first time and then just change it to false to stop accidental connections

grim igloo
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that's not what the docs say at all

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By setting permit_join: true in your configuration.yaml the joining will automatically be enabled when starting Zigbee2MQTT. Joining is not automatically disabled.```
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Enabling joining via the frontend ensures that joining is disabled automatically after 255 seconds. The joining button can be found in the right top.```
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someone convinced you to switch from haos to docker didnt they?

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and now you're fumbling forward instead of just enjoying shit working lol

fair mountain
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Is there any way to troubleshoot pairing issues? I bought a bunch of Inovelli blue switches and it's taking many pairing attempts (5 or more) to add them to my network.

neon orbit
echo yarrow
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@neon orbit much easier to just dedicate an old thin client or pi to this and not try to host it all on something else.

fair mountain
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meh. VM is fine if you know what you're doing 🙂

echo yarrow
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yeah, it works, but it's extra hassle.

echo yarrow
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the gledopto showed up today. doesn't seem as bright as before on the old single led lights.

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pretty impressive pairing it, couple seconds and it was done.

minor smelt
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zigbee led controller?

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i have a few of them, too. works really nicely

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strangely, smartthings couldn't adjust color temp correctly, it couldn't go lower than what looked like ~2900K

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works great under ZHA

echo yarrow
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that one.

minor smelt
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similar to mine, although mine is "Pro WWCW Controller"

echo yarrow
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my old setup has 3000k led tape strips in diffusers under the cabinet.

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I think @grim igloo posted the link to it.

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trying to get away from the delay in the lights coming on.

minor smelt
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how long a delay?

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mine seem pretty responsive

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although my primary use case is having them set by time of day, don't often hit the switch on them

echo yarrow
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old setup is a couple seconds as you flip the switch an the 12v power supply has to come up.

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want to keep 12v applied and let the controller handle turning them on/off.

minor smelt
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oh right yep, no delay on the gledopto

fair mountain
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Z-Stack 20230410 is buggy. The stick keeps crashing and of course you can't actually send a RST over USB ..

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@austere patio If I want to debug a crashing coordinator, any thoughts on what I should be looking for in the logs?

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oh dear, i see NWK_TABLE_FULL

fair mountain
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downgrading to 2022120 and the network is responsive now

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What is a known 'stable' Z-Stack firmware?

carmine hamlet
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I don't know why the 20221102 is listed as the latest. I don't think it's recommended

peak vapor
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the one listed as latest there is the router

hearty kiln
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Hello there!

after quite some years I moved form Home assistant "os" to Home assistant "core" in a docker (Intel NUC with Ubuntu server with CasaOS). I got everything to work as it was before (except the add-ons of course) but I have problems with ZHA, it does not find my ConBee II.

Form my search I can tell that I need to reconfigure the device path both in the docker container settings and in ZHA but I don't know how and where to start. Could someone help me find out how to do it?

I found this :
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1cf1:0030 Dresden Elektronik ZigBee gateway [ConBee II] Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0aaa Intel Corp. Bluetooth 9460/9560 Jefferson Peak (JfP) Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

carmine hamlet
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Definitely don't use that for a coordinator 🙂

mellow geode
# fair mountain <@652580495892152331> If I want to debug a crashing coordinator, any thoughts on...

SimpleLink SDK 6.20, 6.30, 6.40/6.41 all seem to have an issue that causes the coordinator to crash after a couple of todays. That’s why Z-Stack 20221226 reverted back to SDK 6.10.
There were reports in some closed feedback issue on the Z-Stack repo, but that thread also contains more stuff that’s not really relevant. (There’s a new one now too)
And there’s also an issue on the zigpy-znp repo about newer versions crashing.
(Although it’s not an issue in zigpy-znp)

sour shadow
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I might ve found the problem in my Z2M

limpid finch
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Can someone help me with Zigbee issues? Im trying for days solve this. Basically everytime that I restart HA, my Zigbee devices works flawleslly (using zigbee2mqtt). A few hours later, every zigbee devices have really bad latency. What can be causing this? If I restart HA they work just fine again

sour shadow
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Start with the standard things:

  1. What coordinator?
  2. Is it on a USB extension cable?
  3. Did you pick a Zigbee channel, or leave it at the default?
limpid finch
sour shadow
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Did you check for WiFi interference?

limpid finch
rapid dawnBOT
#

@limpid finch When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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There's pinned messages that'll help you, but any WiFi scanner software is a good start

limpid finch
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Does wifi scanner scans for zigbee?

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like, does it compare it between zigbee and wifi?

sour shadow
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No, it does however tell you about active WiFi

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Which ... you know ... is a big source of interference for Zigbee

fair mountain
# carmine hamlet As far as I know, <https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/releases/tag/Z-Sta...

20221226 crashes the coordinator until it gets power cycled if I have a power blip or flip a breaker and a number of Zigbee devices go offline/online at the same time. I can also crash the coordinator if I pull the air gap on an Inovelli switch to like 4 or so lights. Which is a real problem if I am trying to pair an Inovelli switch (I'm installing >30 of them) because I end up in this loop of having to power cycle everything like ten times to get something to pair.

sour shadow
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Sonoff coordinator?

fair mountain
sour shadow
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The Sonoff one is known to do that

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Non-Sonoff coordinators are fine

fair mountain
# mellow geode SimpleLink SDK 6.20, 6.30, 6.40/6.41 all seem to have an issue that causes the c...

Do you know what the deal is with 20221102? I've seen it mentioned a bunch of times in the issues on Z-Stack. I just flashed it yesterday night after my ramblings in here, and so far the network seems stable and responsive. But I was having issues >7 days with some other firmwares. Here's all the other ones I've tried, first time trying 20221102:

CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20211217.hex  CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20221226.hex CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20220219.hex  CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20230410.hex CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20220726.hex
fair mountain
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I plan on adding another 40 or so Zigbee devices to my network which will push me >200.

sour shadow
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Tube, ZZH, Slaesh, etc

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I'll be switching from my Sonoff to Slaesh once I replace the Terncy sensors

fair mountain
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I have to wonder how much of a pain it would be to swithc coordinators

sour shadow
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From CC2652 to other CC2652 ... none

fair mountain
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Why a Slaesh ?

fair mountain
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and does CC2652RB count as CC2652?

sour shadow
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Because I already have a Slaesh (and a couple of ZZH)

fair mountain
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ah.

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If you didn't have any, what would you get?

sour shadow
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Slaesh can be flashed without having to push any buttons, much like the Sonoff

fair mountain
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lol

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I feel like for me having a button to allow it to flash might be a good thing 🙂

honest anvil
#

Is there any primer on Zigbee, focused on interoperability and tradeoffs? I see that both Hue and Tradfri are Zigbee based, but I'd like to use just the bulbs with my HA Yellow - it looks straightforward, but I bet there's a sea of caveats there... :D

limpid finch
sour shadow
#

What about ... other people's WiFi?

limpid finch
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The scanner only found 4 neighbours wifi. 1 on channel 1, 1 on channel 5, 1 on channel 6 and one on channel 11. Im on channel 1

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How do I know if these can interfere with my zigbee on channel 25?

sour shadow
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There's a pinned message with an image that explains it

limpid finch
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Well, the image that I looked at, says that wifi 1, 6 and 11 doesnt overlap with zigbee channels 11-22

sour shadow
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No...

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Zigbee channel 11 pretty clearly overlaps with WiFi channel one

limpid finch
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*sorry I meant, only overlaps with these ones

sour shadow
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The "safe" Zigbee channels are usually 15, 20, 25, and 26

limpid finch
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And maybed you can overlap other channels due to sidebands

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So if Im already using a safe channel, what should I do? I think the only thing that can possibly be interfering is the sideband from the neighbor wifi that is on channel 11. But Im not sure

sour shadow
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Check Zigbee2MQTT's log file when it happens again

limpid finch
#

Cool, what are things to look for? If Im not wrong when I was having the issue. Everytime that I pressed any switch, it slowly published 5 messages MQTT. But now that I just restarted those 5 messages are published straight away

sour shadow
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I've no idea shrug

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You also want to check the system health - CPU and RAM use

limpid finch
#

If there were some sort of interference would I ever be running that smoth everytime that I restarted?

limpid finch
sour shadow
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Well, you check it on the computer running Zigbee2MQTT

limpid finch
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No worries, I use a virtual box, but I believe you are talking about the Task Manager outside of it. If so, I will keep an eye on it. Thanks so much for the help

sour shadow
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You want to see if Zigbee2MQTT is starting to use lots of CPU/RAM

limpid finch
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Oh ok, so maybe checking the Add On cpu/ramm usage

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No worries!

fair mountain
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Other than don't make the mistake I did and buy their outdoor bollards 🙂

clever cedar
#

Guys quick question, what if I want to delete and re-install HA from scratch, what happens with my zigbee devices, do I need to re-pair them? or are thay saved into my cordinator?

If that so, when I install ZHA again will all my devices appear again automatically?

sour shadow
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ZHA has a separate backup (and restore) option

austere patio
#

Coordinator state is spread between /config/zigbee.db and the stick itself. If you delete everything in /config/ and set up ZHA from scratch, it will ask you what you want to do: either keep the settings on the stick (and slowly re-discover some devices on your network on its own), or form a new network and start completely from scratch.

grim igloo
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I’m not trying to be pedantic but if the entire config is in the zigbee.db then that’s a lot different than specific required data also being split to the coordinator

austere patio
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Well ZHA assumes the stick state is accurate (will change in the next release) and will prefer to use it over what's in zigbee.db. But the database contains a copy of everything the stick does in the form of a backup.

grim igloo
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I see

clever cedar
austere patio
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No

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If you do have zigbee.db, that is what will happen. If you delete everything and just keep the stick, then ZHA will have no idea what is on your network and just treat existing devices that contact it as new joins, so over time some old devices will be re-discovered (i.e. routers, but likely not all sensors).

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What exactly are you trying to do?

fair mountain
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hey @austere patio:

With ser2net you originally recommended NONE 1STOPBIT -XONXOFF NOBREAK, but the z2m serial page recommends 8DATABITS NONE 1STOPBIT. Which means they allow software flow control. Thoughts?

austere patio
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Whatever works works 😄

fair mountain
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Trying to track down my crashes and @tropic depot recommends I get rid of ser2net to rule it out as the problem

clever cedar
austere patio
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I'm not sure I follow

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If you want to reset the Zigbee network, re-configure ZHA via the migration button, select re-configure the current serial port, and then erase network settings. All of your entity and device customizations will remain but the network will be gone, allowing you to re-join devices. Why do this, though?

fair mountain
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I suspect I should add -RTSCTS because the SONOFF stick does not support hardware flow control ..

austere patio
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You'll know if your settings are correct as long as you don't see communication errors with the application

fair mountain
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It was set at 1DATABIT before which I feel may be contributing to some of my issues

austere patio
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If the serial port settings are in any way incorrect, things just will not work. If you're referring to the USB crash you were seeing before, that's definitely not caused by incorrect settings. Are you running ser2net on another computer or another pi?

clever cedar
austere patio
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If you plan on keeping the Zigbee network exactly the way it was before, why delete your entity customizations and the rest of HA's config though?

fair mountain
austere patio
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Switch to another device to rule out the pi. The error you're seeing is specific to it.

fair mountain
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the error went away when i switched firmware versions

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20211217 = original firmware, no crashing. radio issues, NWK_TABLE_FULL
20220219 = mostly stable, had some radio issues where zigbee wouldnt erspond. would not crash
20221226 = network fully stable, but able to crash if I flipped a breaker or air gapped a Inovelli switch
20230410 = massive issues,after upgrade the network took like 2 hours to be stable, had to restart USB/rpi many times because it kept dropping. NWK_TABLE_FULL errors again, light commands wouldnt work properly even after a day. No more crashing when flipping a breaker. But then the controller itself randomly crashed.
20221102 ( what I'm on now) = Network immediately came back up after a downgrade, netwokr is stable, all lights are working, everything is responsive. No crash yet, but I haven't tried to flip a breaker again.
This is why I don't think it's ser2net or the RPi itself.

clever cedar
trim elk
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Hello! I'm new to home assistant, and I'm having an issue with z2mqtt/mosquitto... any help would be appreciated!

I'm trying to point the zigbeemqtt to the mosquitto broker, but I'm not getting anything coming through in the logs...
When I press a button I have, it emits in the z2mqtt logs just fine, but not in the mosquitto logs.
Any tips on how to diagnose/fix this?

I have a feeling it might be an issue with the server IP I'm using?

setup/details:
I'm running home assistant in vmware on an extra pc I have using the bridged network adapter mode.
I have a zigbee usb adapter plugged into that machine
have an aqara button that I have connected to z2mqtt

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT won't even start if it can't reach the broker

trim elk
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hmm... so should I not expect any output in the mosquitto logs when I press the button?

sour shadow
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Mosquitto won't write about messages in its logs

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At most you can expect messages about client connection/disconnection

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If you want to see published messages use a tool like MQTT Explorer or MQTT fx and subscribe to #

trim elk
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ok, that's great to know. Thank you!

slim ravine
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quick one for y'all - anyone have a good outdoor zigbee repeater? building a connected/automated zigbee sprinkler system and i just want to strengthen the signal out there

peak vapor
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maybe you could look into some directional antennas?

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or maybe there's a way to backhaul it via wifi/ethernet/etc

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I guess it's the same with wifi since it's 2.4ghz just easier to find directional stuff I imagine

fair mountain
slim ravine
fair mountain
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i seriously regret buying them.

slim ravine
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Oh yeah? Good to know!

fair mountain
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Very, very, very poor quality. High failure rate. No UV protection at all.

slim ravine
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Oh yeah nuts to that then. Back to the drawing board for path lighting

fair mountain
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@slim ravine I had 2 fail at 1 year 2 Month march.. lol

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33% failure rate

slim ravine
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yeesh. yeah forget that. i mean the el-cheapo stick in the ground solar ones i have are fine, but if fine was enough i wouldn't be on this discord lol :p

fair mountain
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they do look very nice ..

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@austere patio i spoke too soon, the new firmware crapped out again. im starting to wonder if there's something wrong with the hardware so I pulled out a spare sonoff stick and i migrated the network to it ..

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same deal with the other stick, except back to the reboot/freeze on the newer firmware. going to try without ser2net

fair mountain
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@austere patio i just tried with USB.. directly to my HA machine.. it works. -_-

austere patio
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Is this still with a pi?

fair mountain
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The problem with it is that it's in an area with 5 motor loads, and an access point. So not great to have my zigbee coordinator there, which is why I have it on an old RPi 3.

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Wondering if it's my PoE to Ethernet/USB splitter causing power issues (I don't see any low voltage alerts from the RPi, and the SONOFF only uses 100 mA), a problem with the RPi 3 itself, or an issue with the USB driver (I have tried both the dwc2 and the dwc_otg mode for the USB controller.)

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Or if it's ser2net ...

fair mountain
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nevermind @austere patio. stick dropped again.

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Downgrading from 20230410 and immediately no more issues with 'max concurrency'

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And it's doing 5 firmware updates.

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Something is seriously wrong with 20230410 Z-Stac

fair mountain
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Is there a way to tell if the coordinator is still connected within HA?

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Would be nice to add a notification if the coordinator stops responding.

limpid finch
fair mountain
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I know the logs show " Coordinator is disconnected, cannot send request"

limpid finch
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Can someone help me how I can make this stop? This is the message that repeats over and over non stopping

"MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Interruptor Escritorio', payload '{"action":null,"battery":74,"last_seen":"2023-04-14T12:27:13+08:00","linkquality":138,"update":{"installed_version":587699761,"latest_version":587699761,"state":"idle"},"update_available":null}'"

fair mountain
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Last seen for the coordinator seems to only show when the coordinator originally connected.

fair mountain
mellow geode
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What coordinator are you using?

uncut sorrel
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I have a weird issue with my Aqara P1 PIR sensors. I have two of them. The other has always been dropped from the zigbee network after couple of hours. Re-pairing fixes it until it happens again.

I removed the dropping one using zha.remove service, added it again, and now it is working but the other is dropping out.

Any ideas how to investigate this?

I'm using Sonoff USB stick as the coordinator

thick plover
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Anyone got advice on a coordinator like the ZZA and how it stacks up agains the SkyConnect?

celest lance
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Hey guys i have the aqara p1 sensors do you need the aqara hub to connect them? have a tuya zigbee hub and they just won't connect flash for a second but don't connect at all..

molten linden
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Yes. Or get out of vendor locked hubs and use a zigbee coordinator with ZHA or zigbee2mqtt 🤷🏼‍♂️

fair mountain
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I have them in my four bathrooms, kitchen, hallways and they're used to trigger lights ..

hearty night
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anyone use zigbee window sensors? I'm using some sengleds right now but they are continually going offline and reading new batteries as being almost empty

sour shadow
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I have Aqara (original and E1) that I've been very happy with

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Terncy too, but they're unlikely to pair to a TI coordinator

hearty night
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e1 is your hub?

sour shadow
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Nah, a CC2652 stick is my "hub"

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E1 is (one of) their Zigbee 3.0 range(s)

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They also do T1 and P1

hearty night
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interesting, I'll give this a shot, thanks

sour shadow
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Of all the ones I have (and I have a lot) only one has ever been a problem, and that just needed a new battery

grim igloo
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All my $5 Chyna aqara window sensors have been great

sour shadow
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My Terncy ones are awesome, but they don't like CC2652 coordinators

grim igloo
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I paired them to the closest router and called it a day. If they migrate randomly I’ll put them back

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Does that matter if their parent is a router not the coordinator?

sour shadow
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It seems to, yes

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I haven't fully tested since they pair directly with my Sonoff coordinator, but not to my ZZH or Slaesh

grim igloo
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Weird

sour shadow
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My Sonoff being one of the many ones with ... issues

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The Aqara P1 door sensor will also only pair with a non-CC2652 based coordinator

grim igloo
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E1 is the 3.0 one tho right?

sour shadow
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So is the P1 (and T1)

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The P1 is just the big one

grim igloo
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Well that’s not confusing

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I thought there was only one line of 3.0 aqara sensors

sour shadow
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Yeah... it's a ... bit of a mess

grim igloo
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And they just changed the letter randomly

sour shadow
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Almost as bad as the naming convention for HA 😛

grim igloo
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Like what

sour shadow
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T1 is (in theory) the China only range, and E1 is international as is P1

grim igloo
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Like how zha defaults to wild names?

sour shadow
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I mean more that HA Core is a method and the software we all use

grim igloo
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Oh

carmine hamlet
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and a floor wax and a dessert topping. it's all very confusing

grim igloo
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Which dessert?

quiet gazelle
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What is a reliable Zigbee, locally controlled multi-color LED bulb that works with ZHA?

sour shadow
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Well, by definition any Zigbee device is locally controlled

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Hue are generally the gold standard, Tradfri and Innr are good alternatives

quiet gazelle
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Yeah Hue is just crazy expensive...guess you get what you pay for?

sour shadow
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Yup

quiet gazelle
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Been having issues with my Philips Hue motion sensors becoming unresponsive, but my Samsung SmartThings ones I got years ago work great with Zigbee

sour shadow
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Good or cheap - pick one

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As I said though, Tradfri and Innr are good alternatives

quiet gazelle
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$45/bulb for Philips Hue, yikes. Thanks for the suggestions I'll poke around!

sour shadow
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I've got some Tradfri CCT bulbs and those are great - ignoring the firmware issues that can cause them to stop routing for other devices

quiet gazelle
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Gotcha. I have a few TP Link bulbs, but they're wifi and are hit or miss when they become unresponsive. I just want something to work well. Just installed an Aqara smart light switch to act as a Zigbee router near the bulbs

fair mountain
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IKEA ambiance LEDs have garbage yellow/white reproduction.

quiet gazelle
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but I've seen some articles where people have 100+ bulbs

fair mountain
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I have like 140.

quiet gazelle
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guess it's a build out over time kinda thing anyway

fair mountain
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nah maybe a few less.

quiet gazelle
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140 bulbs? damn lol

fair mountain
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Bulbs, Blooms, and outdoor.. although their outdoor are garbage quality

austere patio
fair mountain
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A lot of my bulbs are just ambiance, they are more reasonably priced.

fair mountain
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I did have them in some enclosures and they did work at my previous house ,though.

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But they say "not for used in enclosed fixtures" on them, and /r/hue has mentioned people having them cooked

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Hue's warranty for their outdoor fixtures say they don't warranty them for more than 3 hours of power on a day .. lol

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based on up to 3 hours average working time per day/7 days per week, when used as directed (the “Warranty Period”)

grim igloo
sour shadow
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So.... 91 days of lifespan is what they warranty

austere patio
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I wonder how much that boosts by if you soft cap their max brightness to 90%

sour shadow
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I'd imagine by quite a bit

fair mountain
austere patio
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9.1W -> 7.4W for a cheap Linkind bulb, I'll have to test a Hue one later. Not much of a drop in heat output it seems.

fair mountain
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I have a thermal camera lol

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I could check ..

austere patio
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Max concurrency is a ZHA thing, I don't think he knows what you're referring to 😄

sour shadow
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Koenkk isn't really expecting to be troubleshooting ZHA though shrug

fair mountain
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His request is "adapter information", so I'm curious exactly what he'd like to know ..

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I'm not familiar with the ZHA logging, is there any way to see responses from the adapter?

austere patio
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That would be any line containing zigpy_znp.api (i.e. Sending request: and Received command:). In your debug log, you excluded everything but the max concurrency warning, which doesn't help much.

fair mountain
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@austere patio TY. The log is massive so I wasn't sure what to include.

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whoa

austere patio
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But it's best to include the whole thing, as otherwise you're wasting the maintainer's time as they ask repeatedly for more of the filtered log 😄

fair mountain
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@austere patio like, a 4GB log file? 😛

austere patio
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I don't think you need to include the whole thing if the concurrency problems (likely stemming from devices not responding) happen in the first minute

fair mountain
austere patio
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Well, from the log it looks like your adapter disconnected halfway through

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Which probably explains the errors

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But those lines from the log file are filtered out so it's not immediately obvious 🤷‍♂️

fair mountain
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i dont think that's helpful, because it's just showing the stick falling over

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okay. yes that is what I thought.

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let me include a more complete copy.

sour shadow
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Sonoff sticks are .... often problematic

fair mountain
sour shadow
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My own one (on slightly older firmware) locks up under certain situations - and I know others who have the same problem

fair mountain
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but I have a reproducabel crash on the 20221226 release, hence running a dev version

sour shadow
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And somebody on the forum has one with faulty NVRAM

fair mountain
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I have a bunch of the SONOFF sticks, so first thing I tried was swapping it

sour shadow
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I'm waiting for my new Aqara sensors to turn up so I can ditch the Sonoff for my Slaesh

fair mountain
sour shadow
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Cracking... Royal mail got the package all the way to my local sorting office, and then shipped it back because they couldn't identify the delivery address....

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Yet... they could text me to tell me that it was in the country

fair mountain
sour shadow
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Typical Royal Mail

mellow geode
# fair mountain Hue's warranty for their outdoor fixtures say they don't warranty them for more ...

Although their theoretical warranty terms might not be great, 2 years of consumer rights still apply regardless of that warranty (at least here).
In my experience, "their warranty" has been great and they’ve ignored multiple things which probably weren’t covered.
I even ended up with extra Hue lights now.
Compared to the "warranty" that OSRAM/LEDVANCE has (literally refused to warranty a DoA), Hue support has been great (for me).
Also never had any issues with lights in enclosed fixtures both indoors and outdoors.

Only issue I ever had was with water (condensation?) inside my Hue Callas light.
They replaced 7 lights now lol
I do hope that it’s somehow fixed in newer revisions, but I guess I’ll find out

fair mountain
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I had 2 fail on the blue LED at 1 year 2 weeks, the warranty in Canada is 2 years. They sent me new lights brand new in packaging. They are the same design as the previous ones.

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Wait I was talking to you about this in PM :p

mellow geode
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I mean internal changes. But yes, their Callas seem to be somewhat of a failure

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Yep, right 😄

fair mountain
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too many Canadian plants for me

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So the reason I'm even trying 20230410 is because with 20221226 I can crash the USB coordinator if I power cycle a bunch of lights at the same time.

mellow geode
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Ah, that’s still the SimpleLink 6.20 (and later) issue

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Oh nvm

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With 20221226?

fair mountain
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it's a TI stick

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yes

mellow geode
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So toggling a breaker with a bunch of Zigbee lights should crash the stick?

fair mountain
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This is unfortunate because I'm installing a bunch of Inovelli switches, so every time I power off a breaker.. coordinator goes boom, and then it's a royal pain to get the switch to pair, and if I air gap the switch .. crash again

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yes sir

mellow geode
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Hmm. I think ZHA re-initializes everything (attribute reporting set up, attributes read, …) when a light is rejoining. Z2M only does this for IKEA lights due to some bug they have

fair mountain
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So @tropic depot mentioned I should try with the coordinator plugged in directly via USB, instead of ser2net. I haven't had a chance to try that with 20221226. But I can confirm that the coordinator no longer crashes with 20230410 under THAT specific scenario.

Current state: 20221226 firmware, I can use all my lights properly again, mostly stable. This evening I will see if it still crashes when I flip a breaker.

mellow geode
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So it doesn’t recover after a crash ever?

fair mountain
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nope

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I have to unplug the USB stick and plug it back in

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Or reboot the machine

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Initially I thought maybe it was a RPi issue with their USB controller, that hacky dwc_otg driver, so I switched to dwc2 ... since I don't need OTG.

austere patio
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Open up the stick and poke the reset button

fair mountain
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and see if it comes back?

austere patio
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If that doesn't cause it to start working again, it's a problem with your computer. If it works after that, it's a hard firmware lockup.

sour shadow
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I know somebody who had to split their mesh into two meshes, and somebody else who found that disabling circadian lighting was all it took

fair mountain
austere patio
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What do you mean?

sour shadow
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The commonality was the use of a Sonoff stick - switching to any other stick had no problems

fair mountain
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Sorry. Let me clarify

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is there access to the SoC to see what it's doing?

fair mountain
mellow geode
mellow geode
sour shadow
fair mountain
mellow geode
fair mountain
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I have a box of them D:

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I just ordered the ember sonoff stick

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So today I will confirm if ser2net is the cause or if it is a firmware bug, and also try @austere patio's reset thingy

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wish work wasn't so busy. currently rebuilding our packer junk at work to generate AWS AMIs. "boss: we need AMIs yesterday plz"

mellow geode
mellow geode
austere patio
fair mountain
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That is what I am doing now

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It's connected directly to the HA machine

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But then I have to deal with interference ..

mellow geode
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Likely unrelated, but are you running custom integrations?

fair mountain
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many

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a fork of DaikinAC I did, adaptive lighting, reolink, a samsung soundbar integration i wrote

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why?

fair mountain
mellow geode
# fair mountain why?

In simple terms: if "async stuff" isn’t implemented properly, it might cause ZHA to slow down and that could cause issues with coordinators

fair mountain
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oh

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yeah i ran into issues with that before.

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but I fixed all teh async issues that I was aware of, and HA complains heavily about them now so

mellow geode
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Even if, the coordinator shouldn’t really crash completely, but only slow down

sour shadow
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You've clearly not used the CC253x based TI coordinators 😛

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Those are easy enough to crash to the point of needing power cycled to recover

fair mountain
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I wish there was a sensor in HomeAssistant that I could use to see if the coordinator is connected

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I'm almost to the point where Iw ant to feed these logs to elasticsearch

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and the alert using sensu for particular conditions

austere patio
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It's all in the debug log. If it's a firmware crash, you would see a watchdog failure

fair mountain
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I even checked zha-toolkit to see if I could read the state of the coordinator

fair mountain
austere patio
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99.999% of people don't have this problem so it's just not a feature that exists 😄

fair mountain
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I can always check for "Watchdog check failed"

fair mountain
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and even though HA knows the coordinator is offline, and light.light_on or something will fail, it doesnt set the status of any entity to unknown

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would be neat if there was an exposed sensor for the coordinator

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dreams

molten linden
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But this does disconnect on watchdog restarts as the serial connection is dropped and re-established.

gusty patio
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Hey! Do any of you know of a battery powered zigbee dry contact sensor? Something I could use with a microswitch? I guess I could get a button or door/window sensor and hack it, but is there anything purpose designed?

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I’m envisioning a little box with an led, pairing button, and a few screw terminal 🙂

molten linden
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Most of the leak detectors have screw terminals

gusty patio
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Ahhh! That would work

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I want to add a float switch to a drain pan so I can get alert if it fills up

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ie condensate drain blocked/backflow

grim igloo
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If it’s overflowing into the emergency drain pan you kinda want to know before it fills up

carmine hamlet
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water will necessarily collect in the drain pan, which I think the OP was referring to

gusty patio
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Yes the drain pan is normally wet

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But if the water level hits a couple cm, something is wrong

carmine hamlet
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the leak sensor idea is a good one, though

gusty patio
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the evaporator drip drip drip into it so I can’t just leave a leak sensor in it. The leak sensor connected to a clip-on float switch is perfect

grim igloo
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Mine has an emergency drain pan under the unit itself

gusty patio
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I will do

grim igloo
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That’s what I was referring to…

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Not the literal evap pan

gusty patio
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Mine doesn’t have such a thing 😧

carmine hamlet
grim igloo
gusty patio
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This is perfect, thank you

molten linden
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the aqara ones do too, as do the round tuya one.

grim igloo
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Ya the aqara one is what’s featured in the link above

molten linden
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third reality has a siren nice and loud alert too. and they at least contribute firmware

grim igloo
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Along with mqtt config to take the guess work out of what options he has

gusty patio
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Yep this is all ideal, I might even have an extra tuya sensor around somewhere

grim igloo
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Tuya screw ya

gusty patio
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Haha

gusty patio
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I’m in a condo with a vertical fan coil unit…. It’s modern enough and it already has a float switch that cuts power if the pan fills. But I had an overflow last time due to the drain backing up… shutting off my unit was not enough. An extra alert would be nice, so this is a nice little project

fair mountain
grim igloo
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mini split would be harder i'd think

fair mountain
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yeah not much room to do anything

grim igloo
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maybe you can splice into the wires it uses for a float sensor

fair mountain
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cant even fit a leak detector into the condenste pan

grim igloo
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i assume they still use a float sensor to turn off in case of backups

fair mountain
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dont think it has a float sensor

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i dont see it on the engineering schematics

grim igloo
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well it does something

fair mountain
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its daikin. they suck.

grim igloo
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stops itself from spitting out water somehow

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everything sucks these days lol

gusty patio
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We had a mini split at work with an external condensate pump, and it had a sensor to kill the mini split if its bowl filled up

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Well semi-external, it was bolted to the side of the head. Sort of ugly but it was in our server room

grim igloo
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ya so figure out what it does and then splice into it maybe?

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or see what kind of existing esphome projects are out there

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probably dont need to recreate the wheel

gusty patio
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This was a commercial LG unit and I think it had integration for it

grim igloo
gusty patio
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ooh that is cute

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i was looking for an arduino that was a usb stick the other day, never found one

peak vapor
#

but yeah the only mini splits I've seen with a float switch are ones with a condensate pump

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but you don't want those

molten linden
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If you can just fit 2 wires and keep them separate where the water would be you can connect them to the leak detector

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I do this and run wires into a floor drain to detect when the water rises to run critical alerts for possible sewer line issues… just caught one the other night.

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Hopefully won’t need soon as getting lateral replaced soon 🤦‍♂️ roots and a belly not a good combo.

hearty night
#

so I got one of these aqara window sensors, it doesn't say unavailable like my sengleds do, but it seems to get stuck either open or closed

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it will work for a bit and then I get no change if I open/close the window, if I remove and readd the device it starts working again but gets stuck after a bit

hybrid cloud
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not sure itd work tho

grim igloo
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as in after dishwasher is finished?

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if you do a heated dry cycle you can put a temp/humidity sensor outside the vent and automate off that

hybrid cloud
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interesting

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i set it up the other day with a vibration sensor

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thought the aqara one turned off automatically after a minute but turns out it sents a vibration zha event when vibrations been on for a while, so its e ven possible to monitor more granual changes

fair mountain
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and the unit excessively heats/cools the integrated thermistor, so it always has the wrong temperature.

peak vapor
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ah I think the problem with the air handlers is that they read the temp ... well at the air handler

fair mountain
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and theres no option for an external thermistor

peak vapor
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I've seen mitsubishi have support for reading the temp at a "remote" one

fair mountain
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also they ru nthe fan all the time, so they just blow all the humidity back into the room :/

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I cut a jumper to turn the fan off, and then the temp readings are even worse.

peak vapor
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my fan runs all the time too, that's normal to circulate the air isn't it

fair mountain
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what happens is all the humidity collects on the coils and then when it stops cooling it just blows back out. smells bad 😦

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so I ran tstat wire to each room for an ecobee, and then i control the daikin via homeassistant with some cheap wifi adapters i got for the daikins.

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not perfect though.

peak vapor
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hmm I haven't had mine long enough but if it smells bad you probably need to clean it? XD

fair mountain
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its the smell of the humidity

peak vapor
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ohh

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I see

fair mountain
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it started smelling when i got them

peak vapor
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not like mold growing inside it or something

fair mountain
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and i clean the coils every six months

peak vapor
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I've seen some really dirty coil videos

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ah yeah

fair mountain
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correct

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I actually got a discount when they came to service because of how clean the units were ..

peak vapor
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hah wow

fair mountain
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i think id do mistsubishi next time

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if I hadnt of only paid $12k for 4 heads on a 36k btu id be hopping mad

peak vapor
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I'm currently using sensibo with my mini split but dunno part of me wonders if local control would be better

fair mountain
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beep .. beep .. beep

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i was using esphome to control them via IR

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but the esphome IR codes are wrong, and i never quite figured it out

peak vapor
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ah

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I'd go wired directly if I were looking for a project to do

fair mountain
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yeah i wanna see if I can put a relay to force heat/cool

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but that'd def void my warranty (=

languid talon
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I have a few Aqara switches that are being flakey. When I try and change the state in z2mqtt the command times out. Any idea how to troubleshoot this?

I have about 14 switches deployed and a few of them are being unresponsive at times. Not sure what the issue could be.

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The physical switch works fine, but the state is not updated in HA and it doesn't respond to commands sent through HA.

languid talon
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Restarting HA or z2mqtt didn't help. Removing the switch and rejoining it did. Troublesome though.

silent shore
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Asked this in #integrations-archived but got pointed in this direction.

Can someone point me in a direction on what “hub” (usb) I would need to buy for Aqara sensors? I have read so many posts about this depending on what kind of integration you are doing, supported devices for zigbee2mqtt etc. I just want the most straightforward way 🙂

I forgot to add that even if I have read about the ZHA and Z2M options and each have their recommended hardware, I also got the impression that all of those is maybe not compatible with aqara sensors? Which of the recommended zigbee devices should I buy?

languid talon
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@silent shore I have several Aqara sensors connected to a Sonoff ZBDongle-P with Z2M, it's rock solid.

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It looks more complicated than it is.

sour shadow
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Really, the only hard decision is to pick between Z2M and ZHA. Once you've done that pretty much any (current) supported coordinator will do. Don't buy something old or known to be a problem (so, don't buy a ConBee, don't buy anything CC253x based, and don't buy Sonoff's CC2652 based coordinator)

grim igloo
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Wait why aren’t we doing sonoff p dongle now? The tiny percentage of them that corrupt nvram?

silent shore
sour shadow
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Correct

sour shadow
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See the pins about why you'd pick one or the other

sour shadow
grim igloo
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Easier setup is zha, community favorite is z2m at least historically that’s true

grim igloo
sour shadow
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And others

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I have the same problem - the stick hangs when the mesh is busy enough

silent shore
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Might misunderstand, you don’t recommend sonoff because corrupt nvram issues?

grim igloo
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I thought he’s been using tube cc2652 coordinator

sour shadow
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I've found plenty of others with the same problem

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The Sonoff P stick is a roll of the dice - maybe you'll get a good one, maybe you won't

grim igloo
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I guess I won’t be a good candidate to test that.. I don’t have a busy mesh

silent shore
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Is there a more solid option that would work with aqara devices? I got the impression that not all zigbee sticks works.

frail pulsar
grim igloo
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That’s the wrong impression

sour shadow
grim igloo
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Yea

silent shore
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Ok, read a lot of posts from people having a hard time getting it to work

sour shadow
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With CC2652 sticks though Tube, ZZH, and Slaesh are all great choices

languid talon
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Dont overthink it.

grim igloo
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Aqara devices aren’t forced to only work on some coordinators

sour shadow
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Aqara devices are generally not the problem, except the P1 door/window sensors which won't work with a CC2652 coordinator

grim igloo
silent shore
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It seems ZHA is the one I would like to try, any advice on stick based on that 😁

grim igloo
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Skyconnect?

sour shadow
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Or any current generation EZSP based stick

grim igloo
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Tinkerer can we get a bot command for that since it help supports nabu casa and is recommended for zha?

sour shadow
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See the pinned message in #botspam

grim igloo
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I don’t see what you’re alluding to

sour shadow
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There's two messages there

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One of them is a link to the list of bot messages/commands

grim igloo
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To say that’s unintuitive would be an understatement

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I scrolled for 2minutes on mobile and didn’t see skyconnect

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I also tried auto fill in discord to see if it existed

sour shadow
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So submit a PR 😉

fair mountain
grim igloo
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At what point does it make more sense for puddly and him to have a chat instead of you getting bounced around like a beach ball on spring break? smile

fair mountain
grim igloo
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If the flesh is willing…

fair mountain
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or my Embernet stick has arrived on the 20th

grim igloo
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There’s a good 4/20 joke in there somewhere with an ember stick coming on that day

fair mountain
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ever since we legalised it, i haven't really heard any 4/20 jokes. weird.

silent shore
grim igloo
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No it’s not

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Where did you get that from

sour shadow
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It is technically supported by Z2M, but use ZHA instead