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maiden cliff
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ED-10014 is the ecodim part number, looks like.

austere patio
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What specifically did you flash and what addons do you currently have installed?

peak vapor
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oh interesting

muted pelican
maiden cliff
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Wait, I remember seeing Tuya mentioned somewhere in z2mqtt but I can’t find it now.

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Ok, I opened it up and the module inside is labeled MG22_2.4G_ANT

austere patio
maiden cliff
muted pelican
austere patio
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Did you flash the Zigbee firmware?

muted pelican
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Yes, but this was after I get this issue.

maiden cliff
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I don’t think that’s a TuYa module, so EcoDim must be rolling their own after all. And I have to admit: I had worse luck with Tuya remotes.

austere patio
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So if the flasher can talk to the SkyConnect, it works fine, because the flasher uses the same package as ZHA to communicate with it

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Which means that the problem is likely with the USB passthrough. In an earlier message, you mentioned /dev/ttyUSB2: are you not using /dev/serial/by-id/... symlinks? How are you running Home Assistant?

muted pelican
maiden cliff
muted pelican
# austere patio Which means that the problem is likely with the USB passthrough. In an earlier m...

I'am running homeassistant OS inside a Proxmox. In proxmox is the USB-device as hardware "usb port" configured. When I try to configure it in the GUI of HA, I see the skyconnect come up as ttyUSB1 (i've switched to port to check if that's the problem) in /config/.storage/core.config_entires i see as wel the device as ttyUSB1 in domain "homeassistant_sky_connect" and under domain "zha" I see it as symlink, like you mentions "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Nabu_Casa_SykConnect_v1.0_a (etc etc)

austere patio
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Ah, another Proxmox setup

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The USB descriptor appears to the OS but the serial port itself doesn't work

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So it's a Proxmox <-> HA OS issue, nothing to do with the USB stick's firmware

muted pelican
muted pelican
# muted pelican I understand, that flashing was a tryout if it will fix the problem. The strange...

I've solved it 🤦‍♂️ It was the firmware. I had the plugin for multiband in the first place, which I removed a few hours ago. After rebooting the box, the issue started. I tried to flash the firmware to the normaal "zigbee" for the first time this morning, BUT, the multiband addon was still installed on my HA box, and after connecting the skyconnect to Home assistant, I think the multiband firmware was installed again on the background. Just connected the skyconnect on my mac again, and was suprised the multiband firmware was installed again. Just flashed again, plugged it in the HA server, and works again.

maiden cliff
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Yeah, so I have that EcoDim switch, and that I can Bind all four sets of buttons directly to zigbee devices, and I have super cheap TuYa things, and those are just not Bindable. I can build an automation easily enough in HA to couple each of the buttons to a toggle for a light (or anything else I want).

But why don’t any of the cheapo zigbee manufacturers (as far as I can see) make the better kind of zigbee switch? It can’t really cost that much more to manufacture…

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(If it’s coupled via Bind it should operate even when HA is down, which is rare, but not impossible..)

mental bough
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Hey, i have a question about a script to set the correct time to a danfoss ally thermostat. May someone help me, if the following zha message is possible to send with zigbee2mqtt?

trv_update_timestamp:
alias: Update time for single TRV
sequence:

  • service: zha.set_zigbee_cluster_attribute
    data:
    ieee: '{{ieee}}'
    endpoint_id: 1
    cluster_id: 10
    attribute: 0
    cluster_type: in
    value: '{{(as_timestamp(utcnow()) - as_timestamp("2000-01-01 00:00:00")) | int()}}'
    mode: single
forest saddle
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Using z2m as a Home Assistant add-on, and trying to debug why a zigbee switch keeps being turned on when I hit a zigbee button that shouldn't have any relation to the switch..

grim igloo
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What devices

forest saddle
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I added log_level: debug to my configuration in the add-on UI, and restarted the add-on

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but I don't see additional logging when I hit switches, for example

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I have a third-reality zigbee button, and it seems to turn the light on, on a Aqara dual-rocker switch

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But I don't have an automation between those two devices

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The logbook says that the switch was turned on, not by a service or automation.

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There is some suspect data in the bind section of the Aqara switch, and I don't recall putting it there.. Not sure if that's needed for proper operation of the dual-rocker switch though..

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Oh, there are the logs. I guess you have to have the logging window open while logs are being generated..

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OK

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I'm seeing a, "No converter available for '3RSB22BZ' with cluster 'genOnOff' and type 'commandOn' and data '{}'

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3RSB22BZ is the model name for the zigbee button I'm using

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The next thing I see in the log is "Received Zigbee message from 'Kids Bathroom Switches', type" (which is the switch that should not be toggled, but it is)

peak vapor
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I swear there was someone complaining about similar stuff in this channel not too long ago

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forget what happened to that

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did you turn up the log to debug?

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maybe it's sending stuff to a random group id

forest saddle
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Yup, this is from the debug logging

peak vapor
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ah

forest saddle
peak vapor
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I wonder if the button responds when it sees that empty data? idk sounds weird

forest saddle
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Note it's on the z2m web site

peak vapor
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maybe try reconfiguring it

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and mashing buttons while you do so

forest saddle
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yeah, I'll try that

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Googling turned up this comment: "A No converter available message indicates that a certain Zigbee message from a device will not be converted to MQTT."

peak vapor
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that device does seem to have a converter though

forest saddle
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No converter available for '3RSB22BZ' with cluster 'genOnOff' and type 'commandOn' and data '{}'

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I wonder if the rest of the message (⬆️ ) gives more clues

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cluster 'genOnOff'?

peak vapor
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maybe try the Z2M discord instead

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or raise an issue on github

forest saddle
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Cool, didn't know there was a z2m Discord, will look there

peak vapor
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👍

timid owl
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Is there a preferred / recommended Zigbee in wall outlet? I have the Jasco Enbrighten 43102 but it seems like they’ve stopped making them?

surreal mural
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Does the Hue Bridge v2 (the Homekit one) support adding zigbee smart switches?

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Because I have a chandelier that uses incandescents, and replaceing the bulbs with hue bulbs isn't viable. The whole rest of the house is hue. I'd like to add a zigbee smart switch to it to control those lights.

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I was told that adding Zigbee switches to the hue hub isn't possible.

grand gale
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Hey! I'm trying to get 2 sonoff smart buttons working over zigbee.. The SNZB-01s I haven't used zigbee before but I am really struggling to get these to work. I have them connected but they only list the battery level and identify. I searched forums and it looks like you have to listen for the button push event. Searching * and pushing the button does not get me any events

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Running out of ideas but I am passing through my Sonoff 3.0 USB through ESXI into HA. not sure if that might be what's causing this headache

near echo
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Zha or z2m?

grand gale
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zha

echo shell
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Is it me, or are tuya zigbee end devices really hard to get working with zha?

inland agate
echo shell
# grand gale Hey! I'm trying to get 2 sonoff smart buttons working over zigbee.. The SNZB-01s...

Pretty much the same issue I am having with Tuya motion sensor/light sensor/switch combo, and Tuya LCD display. And Aqara cube. Ikea stuff works flawlessly, as well as hue, Sengled, Sonoff plugs, Third Reality plugs, and a few other end devices. I've read that Tuya stuff doesn't follow standard ZigBee protocol, same may be said for Sonoff. It seems it's all end devices that give me problems. I'm thinking i will use z2m for these devices, and see how it goes. 2 Zigbee networks....

hybrid cloud
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well i have to say, i bought a linkind motion sensor and have had it active for less than 12 hours and its stopped working more times than i can count. definitely a product to avoid...

tardy crow
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Hi all, any idea to solve this error: ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.mqtt.select] Invalid option for select.persiana_balcon_backlight_mode: 'low' (valid options: ['LOW', 'MEDIUM', 'HIGH'])

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is about a cover zigbee2mqtt reporting on the button backlight

sullen berry
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hello, kind of new to this, and with no knowlegde on electricity. I managed to install few sonoff zbmini l2 wich are zigbee, but they are only for 1 channel or 1 light switch, is there some zigbee switch with 2 channel with no neutral and no capacitor? I have found a weten wich says tuya zigbee 3.0 2 gang no neutral no capacitor. Have anyone used this? is it reliable for leds higher or above 3w? are there other brands with similar product? thanks

grand gale
grand gale
sullen berry
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i was looking for zigbee, not wifi. old house in europe, i have no neutral wires

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something like zbmini l2

grand gale
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Oh haha.. yeah the zbminil2 and shelly 1l is the only ones i found that have no neutral

sullen berry
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one is zigbee the other is wifi... i meant zigbee, 2 channels

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but thanks for your sugestion

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anyone used it?

gleaming jay
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It doesn’t seem like it, but can you use zigbee2mqtt in combination with zha? Like how you can use zwave js ui addon with the zwave js integration?

austere patio
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Not with the same stick

tacit walrus
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hello, does anyone know how to connect the Bosch Thermostat II to HA via ZHA with a Conbee II?

tacit walrus
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hello does anyone know how to connect

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Another general question: I have a bunch of tradfri motion sensors and aqara temperature/multi-sensors connected via ZHA and Conbee 2. All of them work (usually). However when I'm not home for some days the motion sensors don't work anymore and some of the temp sensors become unavailable. After pairing them again they work as if nothing ever happened. Is that expected behavior or buggy and if so how would I go about making them more reliable?

mortal sail
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Hello, I just bought some Aqara door sensors, got them all set up, added to Z2M and they are showing up fine, but the open/close status is not working and there is no link showing to them on the map. I can update the status and it appears to change according to the history, but the physical status wont change when closing/opening the door. Is there something I possibly missed in this? I have other zigbee items in the same room that got a connection no problem (hue bulb, aqara motion sensor)

grim igloo
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Also make sure to pair them to a specific router especially if they’re the cheap older zigbee 1.2 models

mortal sail
grim igloo
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You can look up that model number on the devices page on z2m website

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Where you click join all there’s a drop-down to select a specific device to join them with

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It’s good practice to do that for all battery devices but in theory they should all get a better route over time. Unfortunately the aqara zigbee 1.2 end devices such as those sensors rarely get a better route on their own.

mortal sail
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(for other devices) Is there a way to relink them to a new router without reconfiguring them? There are a few which I think would do better on another, but for some reason linked to one upstairs when the device is downstairs

grim igloo
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I think you can re pair without removing first and update routes but someone else would have to confirm

mortal sail
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Well, thank you for the info, I'll try and remove and repair the device and add it to a router and see if that improves.

peak vapor
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in z2m at least, if you force remove it doesn't reset the device

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so then the device can rejoin and configure itself again... I've had that help with some of my devices at least

grim igloo
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the older ones are like 4 for $20 on aliexpress so i'd suggest buying them there if you want to save some money

mortal sail
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I only needed 1 or 2 and wanted them kind of quickly, so I went the Amazon route.

grim igloo
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i have a handful of the older models working fine with z2m paired to hue light bulbs in the room they are in

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i also am using one on my mailbox paired to a hue bulb pretty far away

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maybe 20 meters

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terrible LQI / rssi but responds fast

mortal sail
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I haven't found a HA project that I wanted to do in the future yet, that AliExpress was helpful and I didn't mind waiting

peak vapor
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aliexpress jebaits so much

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you see a picture, click into the listing and it's like the price is for a gateway or a plastic stand instead of what is shown

grim igloo
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i have an automation that plays the old AOL "you've got mail" sound clip on all my homepod minis in the house when the mailbox is opened lol

mortal sail
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sadly, I live in an apartment and that is not possible, but i'd do the same.

mortal sail
grim igloo
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highly depends on the "store" inside aliexpress

peak vapor
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lol I was looking at aqara light switches on amazon and the melted plastic scared me off

grim igloo
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there are hundreds that all sell the same thing but usually the most popular shares are fine

grim igloo
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the only zigbee light switches i think are worth buying are the overpriced and out of stock basically beta inovelli blue at $50/each

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i think they've worked out the firmware bugs by now tho

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those will be cool but no telling how far out til we can buy them

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ah shit estimated shipping for beta is december 2023

unborn orbit
grim igloo
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i cant justify $50/light switch so i can only talk as an outsider looking in

peak vapor
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their regular dimmer switch seems interesting but you can get alternatives at that price

grim igloo
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the amount of light/fan switch options for smart devices is disappointing tbh. basically only a handful of options and each have low limits on amps they can handle with the fan load

grim igloo
mortal sail
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So I removed the device from Z2M, repaired it, and now all the sensors show unavailable

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unknown*

grim igloo
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trigger it

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then it should update

mortal sail
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Seems to be doing the same as before. Shows constant open. Before I placed them, I tested them and it worked fine, they are less than an 1/8th of an inch apart and lined up. OR, I could just be stupid and have the main sensor turned backwards. thanks for the help, @grim igloo

unborn orbit
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Anyone with any ideas why I would be receiving the error Hue (unexpected token) in JSON at position 48 when looking to do an OTA?

grim igloo
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easy fix

mortal sail
grim igloo
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derp

hushed elbow
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Is the ZHA backup/migration meant to preserve entity/device names?

I just tried (and failed) to migrate to SkyConnect. I had to restart my HA after the backup section, to swap over the device in docker configs. I was getting an unhelpful error and it's didn't have the patience to keep troubleshooting, so I have instead plugged the old stick back in and restored from that backup.

Except now, all the devices have been renamed back to default.

sinful latch
tall pike
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If you ask HA to send 3 commands to 3 different devices simultaneously, they could interfere with each other. Try to create a ZigBee group (not the HA light group helper) with the lights that you want to simultaneously control, then target that group in the service call to light.turn_on.

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Devices & Service > Integrations > ZHA > Groups tab > Create Group button

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You need to include at least 2 devices of the same type (eg. Light), then the group will appear in HA's entities list.

forest arrow
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Greetings all, has anyone used the Aqara Cube in Home Assistant? I just got one and I paired it with ZHA but I can't seem to see any events when I go to the events tab and move the cube or rotate it etc...

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I have not installed a blueprint yet, but figured I should see some events that do nothing

languid talon
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I have a smart plug (SA-003 ZigBee) that appears in my zigbee2mqtt list but I can't see it in the entity list or add a card to toggle it on/off. My other smart plugs work fine. Any ideas how I might go about troubleshooting this?

forest arrow
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Looks like alot of my reading shows that the T1 Pro Aqara Cube has issues

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bummer, wish I had known that before buying

forest arrow
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no idea what I did but it seems to work

acoustic seal
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Just read an article on how I can replace my Hue Bridges with a SkyConnect on HA. Currently, I have two Hue Bridges because one does not have enough range to get all of my hue bulbs and switches. What is the range on the SkyConnect and is there a best practice if one will not handle the range needed? If there is a better approach, I am open to exploring other options. I am currently running HA Supervised on Synology as a VM.

sour shadow
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The range is a few meters, the mesh handles range

wide grotto
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Has anyone managed to upgrade the firmware on the aqara curtain driver e1 using zha?

tardy zinc
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Does anyone know of any Zigbee LED strip controllers that have super-high-frequency (above the audible range) PWM? The only ones I can find all have a maximum of 8khz, which is clearly audible.

sour shadow
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I've never heard my Gledopto controllers and I can hear CRT TVs whine

mighty river
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Help a brother out trying to get his Zigbee2MQTT add-on to work. I've had ZHA installed previously and wanted to migrate to Z2M and am just having problems with this.
I've now installed the Mosquitto broker add-on, created a MQTT local user, set-up the Mosquitto broker integration, installed Zigbee2MQTT, added the MQtt user login to Z2M's config, Z2M seems to also start. But I can't discover any devices
e.g. I've got an innr light bulb (RB 286 C-2). I've done the factory reset as it's directed (turn on once, then quickly 6x on/off, the lamp also did a light cycle loop which I guess should signify that's now resetted), but it's not getting discovered
wtf am I doing wrong?

sour shadow
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  1. What coordinator?
  2. Is it on a USB extension cable?
  3. Did you pick a channel clear of WiFi interference?
  4. Is the bulb relatively near the coordinator?
mighty river
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  1. Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus
  2. yes, about 3m from the RPI running HomeAssistant
  3. how?
  4. the bulb no, it's 2 floors above in the building. I had a zigbee repeater (from Ikea) in the 1st floor that was connected to ZHA, I guess I'd need to unpair that and have it paired to Z2M again so i can repeat the Zigbee signal into the 2nd floor?
sour shadow
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  1. There's pinned messages with guides, but ... if you left the channel at the default that's a mistake
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  1. Direct range is 6 to 8 meters. Two floors above is going to be pushing it a lot without an intermediate router (or two).
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Z2M's default channel is 11, which tends to get stomped by WiFi

mighty river
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I've read so many messages and guides that my head is spinning a bit... could you pinpoint me where I can read up how to setup a specific channel for Zigbee to use? Like how do I actually limit it to some specific channel?

grim igloo
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he skips over changing the extended pan id so make sure to do that

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also dont change the power of the usb stick like he suggests - it's better to leave it at defaults for almost all scenarios

sour shadow
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From the Z2M Discord:

Setting up Zigbee2MQTT? Some things you should know:

  1. Upgrade your CC2652 to the latest firmware (https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/tree/master/coordinator)
  2. Plug any USB connected coordinator it into a USB extension cable to move it away from Bluetooth, WiFi, and USB3.0 generated interference (you can read about USB 3.0 interference on 2.4GHz devices at https://web.archive.org/web/20210428073944/https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/io/universal-serial-bus/usb3-frequency-interference-paper.html)
  3. Don't use WiFi based coordinators - those based on the EZSP chips have reliability issues when connected over WiFi, and you're introducing another source of interference.
  4. Do not use the default network channel, key, and panID/extendedPanID (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/configuration/zigbee-network.html)
  5. Take the time to find a good Zigbee channel and where possible use a ZLL channel - one of 15, 20, or 25 (https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#energy-scan)

A useful guide to WiFi and Zigbee channels: https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/zigbee-wifi-coexistence/

mighty river
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thanks fellas I'll have a read and might come back later

grim igloo
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you can usually get away doing a wifi scan instead of zigbee but that is best

peak vapor
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I changed my zigbee channel, network key, and pan id... but forgot the extended pan id. how important is changing the extended pan id

grim igloo
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idk

sour shadow
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Not the end of the world

peak vapor
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guess I'll close my eyes at that one then lol

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don't want to repair things ... again

sour shadow
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I mean, plenty of people are running with the defaults of everything and their world hasn't ended yet

peak vapor
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lol

grim igloo
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i only have 50 devices to re-pair...

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speaking of - do i actually have to delete a bulb or just click the little reconfigure button when re-pairing?

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i guess delete so the bulb goes into pairing mode right?

sour shadow
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Neither if you're re-connecting it

grim igloo
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i mean after changing network key panid etc what is the workflow to re-pair devices?

peak vapor
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I think you gotta reset it

sour shadow
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Well, just start at the coordinator and spiral out with the routers, resetting them in place and letting them reconnect

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Then do the same for the end devices

grim igloo
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but "resetting them" means doing w/e the product page says for factory resetting them right?

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with hue bulbs if you delete them they instantly go into pairing mode so that's why i thought it would be better that way

peak vapor
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I wonder if you can re-pair in place since their device IDs stay the same

grim igloo
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instead of having to use a hue remote and standing close to each bulb

mighty river
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Ok guys so you were right, it was the distance. I've paired an IKEA smart plug close to the controller, Z2M managed to recognize it and then the signal started jumping upwards into the 2nd floor

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now I guess I just gotta read through this network wifi channels stuff to see if I have something to optimize there as well

grim igloo
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you never changed network_key or anything else did you

mighty river
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not yet, no

hushed elbow
reef anvil
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Does ZHA work with the AXIS GEAR? I know it works with Zigbee2mqtt, but that's a bit of a pain and it keeps disconnecting on me, and the container that Zigbee2Mqtt is on it being weird and not reliable.

molten linden
open mica
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not all the time but sometimes the devices dont interact when i trigger a button for lights or motions,. can someone explain if im doing something wrong https://imgur.com/a/L9tLpCo

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im new to this 3 weeks in HA

acoustic seal
molten linden
open mica
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its not a usb extension and i have the sonoff coordinator

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i might have to purchase an extension then cause my living room pc is on the floor and the coordinator is on the top usb port

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any recommended usb extensions?

grim igloo
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Just some shielded one is fine

open mica
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shielded?

grim igloo
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Shielded

open mica
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i found one

grim igloo
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I got a couple cheap woven ones like 2 for $10 I think

open mica
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smart power strip? any recommendation

grim igloo
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Not sure for zigbee. You can’t just use a plug?

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There might be some on blakadder’s site listed

open mica
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was looking on their

iron musk
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Has anyone here been able to get skyconnect (zigbee) to work with HA?

rapid dawnBOT
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@iron musk I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

molten linden
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Looks like ha can’t talk to the skyconnect

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What are you running HA on?

glad plinth
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Does anyone have sengled rgb bulbs in their setup? Mine keep losing their routes in an otherwise very solid ZigBee network with about 2 dozen mains powered ZigBee extenders and I can't figure out why

grim igloo
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Shame on whoever suggested you buy sengled 😦

glad plinth
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I just couldn't justify the fact that hue was charging $50 per bulb for candelabras

grim igloo
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Iirc the main downside is they aren’t routers themselves not connection issues

glad plinth
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Yeah I knew that going in but figured no problem since I have so many already. I would have gone with innr but they don't have candelabras that I could find

grim igloo
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Are you on zha or z2m?

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What coordinator

glad plinth
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Z2M, sonoff P

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I joined them via a light switch in the same room and the lqi was over 200 and next day one just drops off 🙁

grim igloo
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Sadcat

iron musk
molten linden
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My guess is something about the pass through is not working the skyconnect is no different than a zwave stick in that it’s a usb to serial with a radio module connected to the serial.

iron musk
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strange the zwave works, but the zigbee doesnt

grim igloo
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You could try excluding the stick’s pci id in syslinux config

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It’s pretty easy

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You have to reboot unraid for it to take effect tho

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It basically tells unraid to ignore it which is needed for some VMs and containers to properly control a device

iron musk
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I'll look into that

grim igloo
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Spaceinvaderone has a video on it for usb pcie cards I think. Same principle

iron musk
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This looks like the settings for my Unraid os usb stick

grim igloo
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Weird that it’s there huh lol

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According to the link I added I guess there’s a safer way now

iron musk
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The device will be hidden by unraid, but will I still be able to add it to the VM if I can't see it?

grim igloo
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You should read the link I posted

tall tusk
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do aqara door switches shut off if theres no communication with HA?

grim igloo
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Switch off?

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Like to save battery?

tall tusk
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yeah

grim igloo
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No

tall tusk
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my server is spotty, im trying to figure out why i have no door switches connected any more

grim igloo
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It depends on if they’re the old 1.2 or new 3.0 ones but the 3.0 would definitely drain more looking for a new router

tall tusk
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my leak sensor reconnected np.

tall tusk
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there not dead but they seem to be off? i had to hold the button and they reconnected

sour shadow
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If the mesh won t handle the range can I

mighty river
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I've got a innr light bulb (RB 286 C) paired with Zigbee2MQTT now. When it was paired with ZHA, the device that was created in HA had several entities for changing brightness, color etc. Now that I've switched and paired it with Z2M, I can change brightness/color in the Z2M itself, but the device created in HA just has an entity to switch it on/off. Can those other entities somehow be created in HA as well?

hushed elbow
mighty river
errant tapir
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Hi,

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I try to integrate a zigbee dongle within HA container. It is a ZNP = Texas Instruments Z-Stack ZNP protocol: but after configuration (/dev/ttyACM0) i get the return message fail to connect. What is missing? I have not introduce any specific elements within docker compose file or configuration file

sour shadow
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Please share the compose file

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Also... you need to pass the device through

near echo
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Also do ls /dev/tty* to check if your device is showing up

sour shadow
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In theory if run in privileged mode you don't have to pass the device through

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Also, if that's a CC253x based coordinator it's junk and you're going to regret it

errant tapir
sour shadow
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Ok, you're not using privileged mode so you have to specify the devices to pass through

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That probably relates to your Bluetooth issues

errant tapir
sour shadow
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If you get just that then the device isn't passed through

errant tapir
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I can just recreate the container with the privileged mode activated, it could be quicker

sour shadow
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It's worth trying

near echo
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Check if you have any error message on the os dmesg

errant tapir
sour shadow
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"bindkey"?

errant tapir
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yes the xiaomi ble transmission are crypted so we need a 32 bits key per device. I get them but it is not working!

sour shadow
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That's... that's not a Zigbee device

errant tapir
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yes correct I miss it thanks

patent geode
#

I've got a whole bunch (100+) of Zigbee light bulbs connected to my HA through 2 Sonoff ZBDongle-P's. They are a combination of Tuya, Sengled, and Moes. The Sengled bulbs are not routers but the rest of them are.
One of the dongles is connected to the server with a USB extender as the Coordinator (Zigbee2MQTT). I believe I have the transmission power set the max.
The other is located about 25 feet with line-of-sight from the Coordinator, and is running the Z-Stack Router firmware with the output bumped up to the max.
When I get all of my devices connected, everything runs great for a little while but then some devices will drop off the network and a power cycle is required to bring them back. The LQI indicates 100+ for all nodes when things are running well.
Can anyone offer any insight to help me make this system more reliable? I thought the mesh nature of the Zigbee protocol would make for a rock-solid architecture but it seems not.

austere patio
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I would first reduce transmit power back to default and reboot all of the Sengled bulbs

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What devices drop off?

patent geode
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Mostly the Sengleds

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The point of the high power was to have good connection between the Router and the Coordinator.

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Sometimes the Moes drop off too, but it's strange since those are routers too

austere patio
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It can also force end devices (like Sengled bulbs) to prefer to connect straight to the coordinator due to the asymmetry, since a stronger transmission power won't help the coordinator receive what the device sends

patent geode
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OK, so I should try backing off the power on BOTH dongles and rebooting the whole thing?

austere patio
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Yeah

patent geode
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Cool, thanks. I'll give it a try after I get my server's UPS installed.
Maybe it's a case of more isn't always better, despite what I read on the internet 🤪

austere patio
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It could also just be Sengled bulbs behaving poorly. Mine always have weird glitches 🤷‍♂️

molten linden
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also in some networks Sengleds just don't work well. they generate a lot of NWK conflicts and just don't work right

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you may want to try removing the z-stack router to see if it helps them.

patent geode
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actually, the z-stack router helped them quite a lot...but I'll try almost anything if I can find the right mix.

grim igloo
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are sonoff p dongles running router fw often the cause of issues and not great dedicated routers?

molten linden
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have had 1 or 2 customers not be able to keep sengled bulbs on the mesh with z-stack router in the mix.

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they don't stay on my prod network

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I have a test network with some that has a z-stack router (it's small though) and they work fine. again "Some" networks

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spent way to long debugging/sniffing/working with puddly and dmulcahey looking into this with sniff from my prod network and customer's network. bulbs generate conflicts, coord sends a leave with rejoin message, they do it right a few time, this repeats a few times over a bit of time, then they just stop rejoining

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until power cycled

grim igloo
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fun

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so it's a sengled bulb issue and the router (sonoff p dongle) is just doing its job?

molten linden
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I'm convinced it's an issue with their FW.

grim igloo
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why would that behavior change when it's not a sonoff p dongle as a router?

molten linden
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🤷🏼‍♂️

patent geode
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That's unfortunate. I have like 50 Sengleds

grim igloo
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./giphy shia magic . gif

molten linden
patent geode
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OK, I'll try backing off the power at the Controller and removing the Router.

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Where can I find the logs indicating the (potential) NWK issues? I don't want to have to use WireShark and sniff if I don't have to.

open mica
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where is the best placement for a sonoff coordinator thats plug into my PC , currently my PC is on the bottom of the shelf and my router is place on top of the shelf as well and next to the shelves is my Sony Google TV / Hue Light Bars and Apple TV. I recently bought a usb extensions cord thats 6 feet... just need to where I should put it at

austere patio
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As far away from those devices as possible

open mica
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Noob in HA right now 3 weeks in and have managed to take all the hue bulbs to the coordinator

grim igloo
open mica
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hahahhaha thanks @grim igloo

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I would have to move my pc to get away from all those devices thats near it but i can't cause my pc doesnt have wifi and hence the reason why i have near the router cause its plugged in ethernet

grim igloo
open mica
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Was hoping to put the coordinator above the router and place it where my clock is on the wall

grim igloo
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as long as you get away a bit it should be fine - watch that clip

open mica
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i guess i was worried more about my orbi router wifi 6E

grim igloo
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Eww

open mica
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its netgear... trust me it was way better than what i had before

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TP LINK was trash

molten linden
grim igloo
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@open mica did you do an energy scan with the zigbee stick and choose the best channel?

open mica
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i dont think so

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how do i go about doing that

austere patio
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Are you using Z2M or ZHA?

grim igloo
austere patio
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^ this is integrated into ZHA in the latest beta and shows up in the diagnostics JSON, and done automatically when you form a brand new network. If you are using ZHA and have only a few devices, I suggest trying out the beta and forming a new network.

grim igloo
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Oh neat

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So it does a scan then chooses the best channel or just gives a printout of channel interference?

austere patio
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It chooses the best channel for you

grim igloo
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Fancy

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What’s the workflow of re-pairing devices in zha after changing zigbee channel?

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Like if it’s a hue bulb do you have to delete it then it starts trying to pair and you then re join it?

austere patio
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I think so, I will have to test that later

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In the future it'll be a button and should migrate most routers automatically. If you have a large network, use zigpy-cli.

open mica
open mica
austere patio
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If you don't want to upgrade to the beta, the changes will be rolled out in the next release in a few days

soft stag
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Hi, I have migrated my HA installation form a RPi4 (HAOS) to a PC running Ubuntu (docker). To do so I copied the config folder and everything is working expect the Zigbee (ZHA) integration. It seems that the Zigbee dongle is not recognized. What can I do to get it working? The lopg shows Couldn't start ZNP = Texas Instruments Z-Stack ZNP protocol: CC253x, CC26x2, CC13x2 coordinator

wide nimbus
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Did you map the dongle in to your docker container?

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That’s not for zha but same principle

sour shadow
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The official HA docs also say to put the container in privileged mode

inland bloom
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Hi, new here, apologies if this is not the right channel for this question
I recently got a Tuya motion sensor - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005099780623.html
I added it to HA and setup an automation to turn on some lights. It works, however it takes about 1 minute for the sensor to go from 'detected' to 'clear'
I am trying to find a way to change this - is the place to do it in the "Manage Zigbee device" dialog? I tried clicking "Read attribute" for a bunch of them but they come back empty

soft stag
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this is my docker compose file:
homeassistant: container_name: home-assistant image: homeassistant/home-assistant:latest privileged: true ports: - 8123:8123 volumes: - /docker/stacks/home/home-assistant/config:/config devices: - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0:/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0

sour shadow
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Don't use latest - use stable

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You're running the most recent build, which could be a dev release, a beta, anything

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Also... you are supposed to be using host networking, not mapping ports

soft stag
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I will apply your recommendations but I finally got it solved by using the MIGRATE RADIO option in ZHA. I uploaded my radio baclup and now is working

split pike
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This might be a dumb question... are cover groups supported in zha? zigbee groups, not ha groups. It allows you to add them to a group but doesn't create an associated entity like it does with groups of lights. The documentation doesn't mention covers:

"There is also support for grouping of lights, switches, and fans (i.e. support for commanding device groups as entities)."

molten linden
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cover groups - not yet, you can add them to a group (if they actually support it - my SmartWings home have groups clusters but don't support it). and then use zigbee scenes https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/wiki/Zigbee-Scenes to target the group, or use the scripts that call the send group command.

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what covers/blinds are you using?

split pike
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I have three IKEA Tredansen blackout blinds that expose the group cluster and can be added to a zigbee group

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I also have four Aqara E1 Curtain motors that can't be added to groups

molten linden
split pike
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Yeah, they appear to ignore messages sent to the group.

molten linden
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it sucks - haven't seen a cover that does it yet. have my smartwings in a HA group and one or 2 sometimes miss a command when sent to them all unicast.

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(I have 5 in a bay window)

finite canyon
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Hey guys, my ZigBee Zha sensors are not detecting.

  1. Using ZHA.
  2. Have sonoff USB 3.0 hooked up to USB 2.0 extension cable.
  3. Have 1 aqara motion sensor with new Duracell battery.
  4. Soon as I add devices, all sensor works at that given time then nothing.
  5. Laszone, illumation, and occupancy sensors are not detecting.
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Also, the device and sensor stats goes into unknown stats after a while. Some hours or so

austere patio
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If a sensor doesn't report for four hours, it will become unavailable

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What routing devices do you have (bulbs, outlets, etc.)?

finite canyon
austere patio
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2.4GHz routers? WiFi mesh devices?

finite canyon
# austere patio Any nearby USB 3.0 devices or SSDs?

Well, I have HA on virtual machine. This VM is on my Synology NAS, which has all 3.0 USB port.

This NAS is sitting 1 foot apart from eevo mesh/router.

But the USB 2.0 extension from NAS to dongle is 6 feet long and sitting very far from all the other electronic devices

austere patio
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It may not be far enough. If you aren't already and want to test something out, upgrade to the latest HA beta and delete ZHA. When you add it again, select the "erase network settings" option and it will form a new network on a (hopefully) better channel.

finite canyon
austere patio
finite canyon
molten linden
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it doesn't tell you, it runs a scan and picks the best based off the results. you can see the scan and channel set by downloading the diagnostics file

finite canyon
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I see, I will try this and see what channel I am on.

molten linden
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you should see something like this: "network_info": { "extended_pan_id": "**REDACTED**", "pan_id": 48567, "nwk_update_id": 0, "nwk_manager_id": 0, "channel": 20, "channel_mask": 134215680, "security_level": 5, "network_key": "**REDACTED**",

finite canyon
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It says I am on channel 11. What are some good channels?

molten linden
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scroll down and look at the energy scan section

rapid dawnBOT
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@finite canyon I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

finite canyon
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25, 26, 15 are over 90.. but 11 is 89 so not far behind

molten linden
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I believe 15,20,25 - followed by 11 are the preferred channels. I'd look at getting some routing devices so you have an actual mesh.

grim igloo
finite canyon
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Ok will try this

open mica
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this is the 2nd device that i bought with Sonoff smart devices, it never pairs... first one was the motion sensor and now the wifi plugs, still not pairing. Should i Install the Sonoff app to see if the device works? odd cause i have installed Aqara & hue devices with no issues

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Not sure why but i have a Sonoff Zigbee coordinator ZHA

grim igloo
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Did you update the firmware on your e dongle?

open mica
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How do I go about that?

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actually I might have to do this over the weekend cause it seems like i might have to pair the devices again?

grim igloo
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no you do not

open mica
grim igloo
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sure

open mica
#

crap, i'm opening the device? is that true?

grim igloo
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you can do it with python too

open mica
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never used phython? crap what's my best approach with the knowledge i have

grim igloo
open mica
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seems like i gotta do this over the weekend

#

},
"versions": {
"bellows": "0.34.10",
"zigpy": "0.53.2",
"zigpy_deconz": "0.19.2",
"zigpy_xbee": "0.16.2",
"zigpy_znp": "0.9.3",
"zigpy_zigate": "0.10.3",
"zhaquirks": "0.0.94"

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is that firmware version?

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i downloaded the diagostics

fair mountain
#

So I got my Inovelli VZM31-SN switches installed. First time it's ever happened to me, but I torqued down the neutral lug and it stripped. Doesn't scream quality especially when I have the torque set to 14 inch-pounds.

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And they are so so so much more responsive than the Leviton switches.

molten linden
open mica
#

how can i find out my zigbee version firmware

molten linden
#

you should see the fw version under the metadata section

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in the diagnostics file

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on one of my devices it looks like this.

#
        "metadata": {
          "ezsp": {
            "manufacturer": "tubesZB",
            "board": "Series2",
            "version": "7.2.2.0 build 190",
            "stack_version": 11,
            "can_write_custom_eui64": true
          }```
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the version there is the FW version

open mica
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"metadata": {
"ezsp": {
"manufacturer": "",
"board": "",
"version": "6.10.3.0 build 297",
"stack_version": 8,
"can_write_custom_eui64": true

molten linden
#

that should be a decent fw

open mica
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how do i know its the latest one? is there github firmware to see which one is the latest

molten linden
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not sure, i know someone forked the nabu casa fw builder and added the sonoff devices for automated builds

open mica
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or a website that has all the firmware of my sonoff zigbee dongle

molten linden
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these have the very latest fw version 7.2.2 not sure how tested they are

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the builds are under artifacts, inside the zips is a build/release folder, the gbl is the fw

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I just tested the ncp-uart-hw-zbdonglee fw from the most recent action run, and it flashed okay (I had router fw on the stick so had to hold the boot button) and was able to form a network on it and run an energy scan.

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6.10.3 should honestly be fine.

slim path
#

What's a good ZigBee plug with power monitoring?

limpid light
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@slim path I've had decent luck with the ones from third reality

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As far as I can tell they make your mesh pretty strong too, which is why I have a mix of zigbee and zwave outlets

slim path
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https://a.co/d/cCNcjXq
These? Damn, this is what I should have gotten. I something from Sonoff that's more expensive, no power monitoring, and doesn't even seen to work.
But these look better.

fair mountain
limpid light
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@slim path

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Oh

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I can't post pictures in here

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Ima DM you the sensors it has

slim path
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Sure

olive gorge
#

Hi there, I have a device that is successfully paired with z2m (displayed on z2m frontend) but no entity appear in HA, except linkquality. Any idea why? The device is an EVOLOGY PSE03-V1.1.0

finite canyon
#

Hi everyone,
My Aqara occupancy sensor has turn off time of 10 minutes, how can I reduce this? Zha

fathom quartz
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Was going to wander past and mention I updated my sonoff dongle to the latest firmware without issues; and instead the logs report ZHA cannot access the usb. waaah! Fixed. For the next poor schmoo who hits it: dmesg reports 'failed set status' and others when: two docker instances try to grab the usb device. Silly duc, need to disable experimental addons when they aren't being used.

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Now, to see if new fw improves LQI magically

empty vine
#

Ooooh, all of a sudden new devices appeared in Z2M. Though I can't do anything with them because they're getting timeout. Not sure why.

https://snipboard.io/QxCUOF.jpg

fathom quartz
#

Neighbours bought some new iot toys?

empty vine
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Doubt it but maybe? I have a H/T sensor in the kitchen with LQI of 30 and one of the lightbulb has LQI of 27, so might be that one

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I do have Philips lightbulbs

fathom quartz
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If you think it is a humidy sensor, go and exhale on it.. humanoid breath is quite moist and should raise the reported humidity 🙂

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Google says LQI can be unreliable, almost like there is no standard within zigbee for what to measure, what to report, and what scale to use <sigh>

sour shadow
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The scale is 0 to 255... what that means varies a lot

fathom quartz
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My luma.router (from 2018 or 2019) reports LQI of 1. But an endpoint behind it seems fully reliable. While a different endpoint with an LQI of 40 is unreliable

fathom quartz
#

TodayILearned about AddDeviceToDevice (feature/option under each Router), instead of the blue elipse at the toplevel, so in theory I can go find endpoints far from the controller and repair them in place (wonderful Aqara not migrating routes). But that is a "me" issue and I won't need to bore y'all with it.

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Assumption. If it goes spectacularly wrong or spectacularly right, it is worth posting. If I break any limbs, pics are required

empty vine
fair mountain
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with their standard aqara motion sensor you can reset the time:

- service: zha.set_zigbee_cluster_attribute
  data:
    ieee: 
    endpoint_id: 1
    cluster_id: 1280
    cluster_type: in
    attribute: 2
    value: 0
grim igloo
fair mountain
#

full reset

grim igloo
#

?

fair mountain
#

I basically added it to motion event with a delay of sixty seconds

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it resets the trigger

#

that needs to be done every time you detect a motion event

#

full automation

grim igloo
#

how does a security conscious individual know you arent serving up some good ole fashioned malware on your personal pastebin -.-

fair mountain
#

open it in lynx? :p

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curl? wget?

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I have a SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 stick with ~164 devices running Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20221226). If I power off a bunch of Zigbee devices (i.e. breaker or power failure) I can get the SONOFF stick into a state where it doesn't respond over serial, and kernel messages on the machine show:

 WARN::dwc_otg_hcd_urb_dequeue:639: Timed out waiting for FSM NP transfer to complete on 7

I can only fix it by restarting the machine or unplugging the SONOFF device. Has anyone run into this issue? Is this a bug? Should I report it to Z-Stack maintainers?

quiet gazelle
#

What is the preferred Zigbee controller for HA to keep everything local push? Also, is there a way to extend the signal?

fair mountain
quiet gazelle
fair mountain
quiet gazelle
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Mine is pretty much central to my house right now. What do you use for smart lights, motion sensors, etc?

fair mountain
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"hue"

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mix of Leviton zigbee switches (which im phasing out), and transitioning to Innovelli

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I also have SONOFFand aqara motion, temperature, and lux. but they are not very reliable and fall over the netwokr.

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oh and Sengled zigbee smart plugs which are great

austere patio
fair mountain
#

If it was happening randomly, I'd think it was a hardware issue, if it's happening only when a specific event occurs, I'd be inclined to think it's an issue with the firmware .. are you asying its an issue with the UART firmware?

austere patio
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New firmware would run on the Zigbee chip but the error you're seeing is with the USB-serial chip, which has no firmware. Even if you rip out the Zigbee chip, the USB-serial interface would still work exactly the same.

fair mountain
#

I migrated to another SONOFF 3.0 stick and the same issue occurs.

grim igloo
#

that's the p dongle right? puddly has mentioned they are prone to nvram corruption so couldnt it point to that?

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on two sticks tho.. not so much

austere patio
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NVRAM is still on the Zigbee chip, it wouldn't cause kernel warnings

fair mountain
#

but if UART is waiting for a response from Z-Stack, it may not be handling things properly?

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IS it a ch431?

austere patio
#

If you have a pi or some other computer to test with, set up the stick as a remote adapter with ser2net and see if the issue goes away. If it does, it's a problem with your computer.

fair mountain
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oh cp210x

austere patio
#

Try another Pi 😄

fair mountain
#

and ive swapped the pi

austere patio
#

Same type?

fair mountain
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yes

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and why would it only occur if I restart a bunch of zigbee devices at the same time?

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also this USB Poe Adapter I am using can deliver 3A @ 5V

austere patio
#

All hits for dwc_otg_hcd_urb_dequeue online lead to reports opened by pi 3 users so it could be a bug with the Pi kernel, which would make sense, since you swapped between two pi 3s 🤷‍♂️. I just don't see a way for you to trigger a kernel-level warning by having anything after the USB-serial chip crash or disconnect (as otherwise you'd get them all the time while using external USB-serial adapters with dedicated jumper wires for TX and RX).

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If you have another generation Pi or another SBC, or some other box to test with, try ser2net on that. I suspect the error will go away.

fair mountain
#

I wonder if the SoC on the RPi 2 is close to the RPi 3 ..

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or different enough

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I see people complaining about it with the ODROID as well

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Someone suggests dtoverlay=dwc2 resolves the issue.

tranquil dust
#

Just got a sonoff zigbee dongle and planning on setting up z2m, my question is, does the dongle need to be connected to the device running the HAOS server or can i plug it into my router?

peak vapor
#

how uhh smart is the router

fair mountain
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@austere patio im going to try with dtoverlay=dwc2 which looks like it uses a different USB driver?

grim igloo
fair mountain
grim igloo
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it was an orange man joke dude

fair mountain
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@austere patio was using dwc_otg and is now using dwc2.

austere patio
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Any difference?

fair mountain
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will find out.

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I can't flip breakers at this time of the day (=

#

but I think you are on to something.

#

I wonder if there is too much being buffered and something craps out/

#

dwc_otg is the driver that has been heavily patched to squeeze most performance & function in host mode on the Pi: the fiq stuff etc. So heavily patched that, despite the name, it only does host mode & not OTG.

dwc2 is an upstream driver which can do the OTG host/gadget flip dictated by OTG_SENSE. In host mode performance will pale cf dwc_otg, hence it's only recommended for gadget mode.
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huh that explains a lot

tranquil dust
sour shadow
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It won't be able to run your Zigbee stack

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You can plug the dongle in there, but it'll be as useful as leaving it in the drawer

tranquil dust
#

is it because i wont be able to run ser2net on it or

sour shadow
#

That or anything else

#

Just stick it on a USB extension cable

tranquil dust
#

the problem is im runnning the server on a laptop down in the basement, was unsure if the range would cover the distance etc.

sour shadow
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It's a mesh, as long as it can reach router devices it'll be fine

crisp wadi
#

i bought and received SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus by ITead, do i need to update the firmware?

tranquil dust
open mica
#

Which do I have E or P? Sonoff ZigBee 3.0 USB dongle Plus V2... I'm currently using ZHA

#

I'm having issues pairing Sonoff devices, I returned Sonoff motion sensor and now have ordered 2 S40 lite plug, they don't pair at all.

But everything else that I paired with this coordinator has been great, smartthings, hue and aqara devices

tranquil dust
#

is it normal that the sonoff dongle doesnt show up anywhere in device manager ?

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normally should pop up under "other devices" if im correct

sour shadow
#

On Windows?

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Depending on which one you have drivers are likely to be required

tranquil dust
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yea sorry windows 11, so i should just get to flashing the new driver, it is the E variant

tranquil dust
#

actually im following a video, i prefer the visual, but i will follow along the links as well, thank you

sour shadow
#

Be very careful, when it comes to HA those videos can become outdated in just a few weeks

tranquil dust
#

i noticed that when looking through the comment sections of a few videos lol

fair mountain
ripe wigeon
#

If every value of a hue motion sensor has "Null" listed, am I fair to assume it's dead? (others still work, this one randomly stopped working) I did add an aqara device not so long ago (door sensor) I was able to reset the doorsensor and pair it again

tranquil dust
#

i got the sonoff dongle E, but it doesnt enter bootloader no matter how long i keep the boot button down, and even if i spam click it, what am i doing wrong?

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it turns green, but havent seen that mentioned anywhere, only that you supposed to see a blinking red light?

molten linden
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You can try holding the boot button and tap the reset see if they works

tranquil dust
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nope, nothing

#

okay seemed to finally work after the 20th time, thanks for the suggestion

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Sonoff v1.0.1

Gecko Bootloader v1.12.00

  1. upload gbl
  2. run
  3. ebl info
    BL >
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this seem right

molten linden
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I flashed one last night I just use the universal-silicon-labs-flasher and held the boot button until the flash started.

tranquil dust
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im on windows, seems like linux if im not mistaken

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could of course boot my live ubuntu, but i seemed to have flashed the firmware now

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is there a way on windows to check?

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what driver version do you have, mine shows up as version 1.5.2021.8 under device manager -> properties -> driver version

molten linden
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it should work under windows. I'm using linux or a mac generally.

gilded elm
rapid dawnBOT
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@hallow crane I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

fair mountain
sour shadow
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Aqara's Zigbee 3.0 range is awesome, their Zigbee 1.2 range is fine if you take account of how it behaves up front

dusk delta
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Hello all Last night my system got an update to Silicon Labs Multiprotocol and after the update all my Zigbee devices are offline. I have tried going back to a back up and get the same errors. When I look at the logs I see Error setting up entry SkyConnect Multi-PAN for zha and Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator. I have reloaded the configuration and updated the firmware from the skyconnect site to see if this fixes the issue so far no luck. Any idea of what else I might be missing?

dire owl
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hi all, what do you do when some battery powered devices becoming unavailable? Just wake them up? reload ZHA? thanks

sour shadow
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Replace the batteries, check for interference, try pairing them through a router with a better signal

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Waking them is only any use if it's a one off event

dire owl
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thanks will try those

austere patio
dusk delta
austere patio
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Can you post the logs?

molten linden
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the baud rate change? - does the addon auto flash/update the stick fw?

austere patio
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It does. There was just a bug with the flashing part in the addon for x86.

rapid dawnBOT
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@dusk delta I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

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@dusk delta I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

dusk delta
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s6-rc: info: service banner successfully stopped
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: stopping
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully stopped
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: stopping
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully stopped
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: stopping
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully stopped
[09:48:02] INFO: mDNS ended with exit code 4 (signal 0)...
s6-rc: info: service mdns successfully stopped

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dont know why but discord would not let me upload as one

austere patio
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Hmm. You didn't re-configure ZHA to use the SkyConnect serial port directly, right?

dusk delta
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nope

austere patio
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Try unplugging the stick and plugging it back in

dusk delta
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ok I unpluged and pluged now my OTBR integration is working but the zha still fails

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2023-04-05 10:01:39.056 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 1 of 3)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 185, in async_initialize
2023-04-05 10:01:47.368 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 2 of 3)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 185, in async_initialize
2023-04-05 10:01:55.687 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 3 of 3)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 185, in async_initialize
2023-04-05 10:01:55.694 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.config_entries] Error setting up entry SkyConnect Multi-PAN for zha
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/init.py", line 122, in async_setup_entry
await zha_gateway.async_initialize()
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 200, in async_initialize
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 185, in async_initialize

austere patio
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The Core logs aren't all that useful, just the addon logs

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And if you want to DM me the log text/file, that may be easier

rare night
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Not sure if this is the proper channel or if this is a Homekit issue, but one of my Aqara door sensors has been incorrectly reporting status lately. Is it possible that activating the sensor during a restart or other system process flips the reading (closed becomes open, or equivalent)?

burnt locust
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Hey I was told to post this here instead of #integrations-archived

hello can someone help me connect a zigbeecc2530 usb with home assistant I had it working before but accidentally deleted my container and lost some data. But now it doesn't get recognised and I don't know how to manually put the path

sour shadow
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What kind of install are you running - Home Assistant OS, Container, something else?

burnt locust
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I am running home assistant in a container on a raspberry pi

sour shadow
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Ok, then you need to ensure your container maps the device path, and you're looking for the path in /dev/serial/by-id/

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Assuming you're being sensible and using Docker Compose then you'd add something like this to your entry:

    devices:
      - /dev/serial/by-id/some-thing-here:/dev/ttyUSB0
burnt locust
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I'm using portainer which I think sets most of these things up automatically but give me a sec to try to confirm it. Maybe the second time I set up the container after I deleted it I got something wrong

sour shadow
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Portainer won't map devices automatically - you have to tell it do so

copper hemlock
#

Hey,

I am trying home assistant for the first time. I bought 3 things.

  1. Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus–ZBDongle-E
  2. Aqara smart switch double rocker no netrual
  3. Aqara motion detector.

I installed home assistant on my dedicated server inside a docker. I follow the tutorial for docker composer. Everything work fine the zigbee hub and the smart switch. They work flawless.

However I am unable to make the motion detector work. It connects. However that's the only time it seems to communicate to the zigbee hub. Because I never see a new update inside home assistant. Even when I click the identity button it lights blue but I don't get any message that it has been identified in home automation. I removed the battery multiple times. I also tried to reset it and reconnect but nothing seems to work.

Anyone who can help me further? Any help would be really appreciated!

burnt locust
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oh ok give me a sec then I'll try to set this up now and see if it works

sour shadow
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Yes, you have to map the device into the container

burnt locust
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ok I put mapping for /dev/tty0 which I think is where device is since I saw that port corresponds to tty0 in the rasberry pi but it still can't detect it

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I also tried dev/ttyUSB0 but that doesn't work either

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I got this message

[  +0.000018] usb 1-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3

so I assume it's dev/tty3 but that didn't work

austere patio
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Run ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/

burnt locust
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oh thanks so should be that

usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B001CCC5625-if00 -> ../../ttyACM0
austere patio
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So when mapping, don't use /dev/ttyACM0

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Use /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B001CCC5625-if00 instead

burnt locust
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ooh ok all this time i was mapping /dev/... to itself

austere patio
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Because it will be unique and never change, but /dev/ttyACM0 might if you add new USB devices

burnt locust
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That's pretty cool it recognized it now thanks a lot

meager granite
#

I have moved my HA OS from Proxmox > Unraid and now for some reason my Z2M addon wont start.

Passed the deconz 2 stick through and HA OS can see it, path is the same as before (as I did device by id)

I start the addon and I get

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-04-05 19:35:26: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman

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There's more but I dont want to spam a big load of logs, ill pop it on pastebin

sick steeple
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folks, how would you go about fixing a zigbee device where data is present in MQTT but showing as entity not shown on the device page ?

meager granite
meager granite
fair mountain
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So, the two Philips Calla's that died: Phillips sent me two brand new ones. Took ~2 weeks to get them.

wet oyster
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has anyone tried migrating from ZHA integration to zigbee2mqtt? is there any documentation on this, and how does one migrate the coordinator - pan, network key and devices over?

sour shadow
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There's no documented path for that

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Z2M to ZHA has a path, but not the other way

wet oyster
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wouldn't be that bad to reconnect everything if not for the relays inside walls 🤔

opal chasm
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huhu, i am trying to bind a tradfri remote(the round pug like ones) to a group of two tradfri lights(30x90 panels). What groups would i need to choose? i basically only want on/off. I tried lightlink but this caues the "bind" button to spin endlessly. any Ideas what exactly i need to select for groups? Once the upgrade of another remote is done, i will try to watch the logs closely right now they are spammy.

Also for a total reset I deleted the ZHA extension, removed Zigbee.db and then forgot to restart HA. I did select "nuke network" through when relinking the EZSP Gateway. Did i miss a step or was that all i would need to do?

iron musk
iron musk
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Id post a screenshot, but I think thats diabled here

grim igloo
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you can use imgur to upload any pictures to then link that here

iron musk
grim igloo
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what's the issue then?

opal chasm
iron musk
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Unraid doesnt let you pass through something its using, so the check box is locked with that message

grim igloo
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the information i linked to you above showed you how to force unraid to NOT use it

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either way this isnt a #zigbee-archived issue it's an unraid one. if you need more help i suggest a forum post or an unraid discord. i havent done this stuff in a while so i cant really hold your hand with it

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good luck

fair mountain
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mm, IOMMU.

crystal kite
crisp pewter
rare night
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I initially had great success with some door/window Aqara sensors, but recently 2 of them started reporting state incorrectly. I'm new to Zigbee so I wanted to check if mounting these types of sensors to metal doors is any issue. With z-wave devices I could re-interview or heal, what are the right Zigbee configs for troubleshooting? The re-configure option seems like the right option, but it completes instantly and I can't tell if it actually did anything

sour shadow
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I initially had great success with some

little rover
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Hello, I don't know why there is no SkyConnect topic so i'll try here.
Since the last update of Supervisor yesterday plus the last Silicon Labs multi prototocol update, My Zigbee Network stop working. I saw that the Silicon Labs add on stopped but i cant start anymore. I tried to remove the ZHA network and nothing want to connect now? Someone had the same thing or have a solution ? thanks a lot
If you need any information just ping me

EDIT : for those who have the issue, i ended up to flash the zigbee firmware, reanable multiservice protocol and reassociate all zigbee device i had..

supple river
#

Anyone that van help me with this one?
My zemismart zigbee curtain has for complete open thé value of 90 instead of 100. I already tried to recalibrate, but it always get me the 90% attribute value back.

Is it possible to change thé value to 100 if it says 90?

subtle salmon
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what are the ‘best’ stick to use for zigbee and zwave?

rapid dawnBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

subtle salmon
# rapid dawn

I’ve seen some real negative regarding Conbee. I had someone suggest i get a habitat c8 and connect everything through it.

sour shadow
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I'd not recommend that, go direct with a coordinator of your choice

subtle salmon
ashen bluff
subtle salmon
untold needle
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Hello there,
I am having issue with zigbee2mqtt, I cannot find exactly where the issue is.

naive summit
# subtle salmon OK.. I thought that was the intent, just feeling a bit lost at the moment. Thank...

Zigbee has three types of devices:

  • coordinator. This is the stick, and there can only be one.
  • router: any device that can both provide functionality and also forward messages to other devices. These are usually anything with mains power, such as a switch
  • End Device: provides some functionality but will not forward messages for other devices. Generally anything that’s battery powered falls in this category.

Generally you can ignore most of these distinctions unless if you’re having network reliability issues.

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Confusing the matter, many zigbee sticks can be flashed to function as a coordinator, or as a router to extend a weak network further away from the coordinator.

snow wolf
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Can’t zigbee technically also do two coordinators

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Or is that zwave

grim igloo
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zwave definitely cannot

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zigbee i dont think can either but you dont need to do a nvm backup/restore onto a new stick (like zwave needs) so in theory you should be able to have a second usb stick just sitting there waiting to be switched over to

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and some script that tells zha/z2m to use the new disk by id path

snow wolf
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Random internet people say zwave can do: “Yes. You can have a primary controller and secondary controllers (plural). This was a common thing for gateways to support when Z-Wave was still 100 and 300 series. You see it promoted less now but it is still possible.”

grim igloo
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doesnt mean zwave js supports it

snow wolf
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Oh sure

grim igloo
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which in the scope of home assistant is the only thing that matters lol

sour shadow
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Z-Wave can do it, but there's no current support in HA for multiple coordinators

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Zigbee only supports a single coordinator

naive summit
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Zigbee cannot, but the closely related thread protocol can have multiple edge routers, which are somewhat analogous to zigbee coordinators.

modest anchor
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Hello, I'm assuming I have a common problem but am having an issue trying to search for similar issues/resolution.

I have a ton of zigbee devices (mostly gu10 lights/temp sensors/switches) on the network and overtime individual devices become unavailable (not all devices, just 2-3 at a time out of 50+). Going in and doing a reconfigure on the individual device usually repairs the connection and they're fine for another long while without issue even without powercycling the device. It's generally different bulbs (i.e. not the same bulb disconnecting over and over) so I'm less inclined to think it's an individual bulb/device. Is there a way to auto-repair/reconfigure when HA detects a device goes offline, or something else I should investigate on why these are dropping off? Using a ConbeeII adapter on a full supervised build of HA with zha integration.

silver berry
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Hello, i have issues with my conbee stick since the upgrade to 2023.4. I am not sure where i can ask for help.

Situation:
I use a synology 920+ with HA installed on a VM. I have a Conbee2 stick which always worked as intended.

Issue:
Since de upgrade my Conbee stick is getting 'Removed' by HA. I can re-add it on synology to the VM, which makes it visable.. But the moment I do a call on it (starting ZHA), it gets removed.

Logging:
Detecting HardwareAction.REMOVE hardware /dev/ttyACM0 - /dev/serial/by-id/<conbee>

What i tried:
Restart HA, Restart VM, Restart Synology, Remove power, tried other USB port. Remove/add Conbee.
Tried to use Zigbee2MQTT.

All provide the same error once i 'use' the conbee stick

oak pike
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Hi all. I just upgraded to Core 2023.4.0 (running on a RPi3 with HAOS 9.5). After that I did a full hardware restart. Now my Zigbee network is not working anymore.
In the logs I see
Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator
and
Error setting up entry SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2 for zha
Stracktraces for those logs point to an error:
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20220816160405-if00'

I already downgraded to Core 2023.3.6 but that doesn't solve it. I'm guessing however it's more related to the restart and something else which might have changed a few days ago (supervisor upgrade form yesterday?)
I have not clue how to proceed from here...

silver berry
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Taranex, I have the exact same issue. (Posted right above you) Can you check logging>supervisor? You should see that the usb stick gets removed

oak pike
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@silver berry for the it doesn't seem the hardware gets removed, but somehow it seems it has been renamed. When I physically remove and re-insert the dongle I see the following logs:

23-04-06 19:24:30 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.REMOVE hardware /dev/ttyACM0 - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Single_Serial_54DD002810-if00
23-04-06 19:24:30 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.REMOVE hardware /dev/bus/usb/001/004 - None
23-04-06 19:24:34 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.ADD hardware /dev/bus/usb/001/006 - None
23-04-06 19:24:34 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.hardware.monitor] Detecting HardwareAction.ADD hardware /dev/ttyACM0 - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Single_Serial_54DD002810-if00
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but that mentions a differend by-id then the one ZHA is looking for. The one ZHA is looking for is indeed unavailable. I'll quickly reboot my RPi3 again just to make sure

silver berry
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Ye I went back to 2023.3.6 and no positive changes

oak pike
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Yesterday I upgraded supervisor to 2023.4.0 so I wonder it that could be the culprit

silver berry
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I even tried to use deConz and z2mqtt but all three (with zha) give me the issue

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Let’s stay in contact

oak pike
silver berry
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I am going to try 2023.3.5

oak pike
silver berry
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You also use ZHA right

oak pike
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@silver berry yes

silver berry
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Btw. Same issue, but in deConz. Because it can start without having a usb connected. Actually works (so I plug it in after I started deconz

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Not that it helps me, but at least I know the stick is working. It’s defiantly something HA related (and I suspect supervisor)

oak pike
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Indeed. Meanwhile I read some more threads on github & the forum about people with similar problems in the past. Some of them seem to have solved it by migrating the radio to /dev/ttyACM0 but i'm note sure if that is a good idea

silver berry
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The moment I restart deConz (it was working for the time being) it immediately stops again

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Not sure how we can post this issue to developers

oak pike
oak pike
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@silver berry I gave migrating the radio a try and that seems to have worked

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upgrading back to 2023.4.0 now....

silver berry
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let me know

oak pike
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@silver berry It's gonna take a while as I'm creating another backup and the RPi3 is not the fastest device 🙂

oak pike
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@silver berry upgrade complete. Everything works

silver berry
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How did you migrate the radio

oak pike
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Through Settings > Devices & Services > then in ZHA tile click 'Configure' > Network settings: click 'Migrate radio'

silver berry
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Meh i already removed ZHA to try something else. Anyway, enjoy. I will be digging more

oak pike
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oh yes then that's not an option indeed. Good luck!

quiet gazelle
#

Anyone have recommendations for ZigBee light switches? I tried the aqara brand and it doesn't get picked up by my ZigBee coordinator USB stick. USA, basic turn on/off and trying to keep each switch under $40 USD

rapid dawnBOT
#

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
modest anchor
#

Any thoughts on the random repeated disconnects for individual devices (or is there a way to automate reconfigure when devices become unavailable?) Let me know if I can add more context or format the issue submission differently.

sour shadow
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That's usually down to:

  1. Dying batteries
  2. Interference
modest anchor
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They're hardwired devices (lights/switches/plugs), so not a battery issue. Any way to self-heal when interference makes the devices unavailable?

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In fact, of the devices that never disconnect, are my battery aqara climate sensors

sour shadow
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Have you checked that WiFi isn't interfering?

modest anchor
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Any easy way to detect that interference? I'm in an apt building so def a bit of 2.4Ghz networks around.

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They tend to be devices that are the furthest from the coordinator, but i have lots of repeaters in the network

sour shadow
modest anchor
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TY, I'll dig into these!

vale surge
#

hey peeps....Just wanna check. I have a bunch of Ikea Tradfri globes and some of them disconnect from Z2M/Sonoff Dongle randomly. They are paired and show up in the Z2M dashboard, but because they are disconnected from the NW I cant control them.
I have heard/read many anecdotal references that if I turn the power off to the devices for a period of time the globes will delete all previous routes and re-establish themm. Is this also the case for a disconnected device????

rare night
#

I recently attempted to ditch my Hue hub for the 4-5 bulbs it was hosting in favor of my Nortek Silicon Labs USB stick, which I've been using successfully for z-wave for a few years. But syncing the Hue bulbs to my Zigbee network has proved very challenging until I realized possible interference with the Hue bridge still on my network. So I unplugged it and was able to add 4/5 of the bulbs. But even those that are added frequently experience timeout errors:
[0xC267:11:0x0008]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), TimeoutError(), TimeoutError(), TimeoutError()]

sour shadow
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Is the stick on a USB extension cable?

rare night
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I was considering trying Zigbee2MQTT to see if the results are any different, but wanted to try and salvage the ZHA core integration if possible

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And i don't have a ton of WiFi devices on my network, but I haven't been able to verify if my own or my neighbors home WiFi networks are causing interference. Some of the tools I found were enterprise grade ($500/yr)

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A ha! what do you know, restarting Home Assistant logged the following warning:

  • Zigbee channel 15 utilization is 93.76%!
  • If you are having problems joining new devices, are missing sensor updates, or have issues keeping devices joined, ensure your coordinator is away from interference sources such as USB 3.0 devices, SSDs, WiFi routers, etc.
long helm
peak vapor
#

if it's not firing events I'd try re-pairing it first

long helm
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Yeah I have done that several times

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I will wait a bit I guess since I only just enabled firmware updates and it says it can take 2 hours

dark iris
#

Hello, anyone know how I can change the colors of an Ikea bulb, with the Styrbar remote, just like the remote does without HA. I saw a blueprint that turns on/off and changes the brightness, but I don't know how to get the left/right buttons to work, like the controller does out-of-box.
PD: The bulb is working correctly with HA app, i can change his color, temp... etc
Thanks, and sorry for the bad English.

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I'm using zha

peak vapor
dark iris
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oh, that work, tysm!

peak vapor
#

👍

haughty owl
#

I am almost migrated over to the HA Yellow, but i want to migrate from my Conbee 2, to the HA Yellow radio.
During the migration it says to make sure that i have the latest firmware.
But i am unable to find the firmware of my conbee 2.
in the integration view for ZHA where i can see the firmware of other devices, i have no info on the firmware of my conbee 2.
Any one know how i can check the firmware otherwise, or how to update?
I'm not entirely clear on if i can use the ZHA OTA feature to update the conbee, or if i need to plug it into my ubuntu laptop, and use deconz to update it over usb.

mellow geode
#

this is probably the easiest:

or if i need to plug it into my ubuntu laptop

haughty owl
#

Is deconz just an interface to the device, og am i risking wiping the keys doing that?

plucky burrow
#

Newbee question: I have a thermostat radiator valve TRV_TZE200_b6wax7g0 (with HA ZHA). The device has a temp_max set to 300 and I want to set it as 30. You cannot set it through Lovelace Card (the entity value is not exposed) but clearly listed in the developer setting state. How can I change this value, where should I start to search (I already spent a lot of time ...) any hint ?

rare night
#

Attempting to migrate to Zigbee2MQTT but having some issues. zigbee-herdsman debug log enabled outputs the following:
https://pastb.in/PjnT

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Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error Resource temporarily unavailable Cannot lock port' though I input the port directly from the HA System > Hardware serial ID

sour shadow
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Check that ZHA is disabled

rare night
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In integrations it shows Discovered but i haven't configured it, so no option to disable is shown. Should I configure then disable?

sour shadow
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Nope

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Attempting to migrate to Zigbee2MQTT
From what?

rare night
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i wiped my ZHA network and wanted to start fresh on Zigbee2MQTT

sour shadow
#

You may need to reboot so that the stick can be accessed by the Z2M add-on

rare night
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ok i will reboot. But the value for port: in Z2M config is the /dev/serial/by-id/.... value, right?

sour shadow
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Yes

rare night
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and I should have the MQTT add-on running successfully before starting Z2M

sour shadow
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Yes

rare night
sour shadow
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Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT

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It can't find the path - the add-on isn't getting the stick passed through to it

rare night
#

the config file reflects the value shown in the log so I'm not sure how to double check access. HA command line or is it a permissions issue

#

I'm running in a Virtual Environment on Proxmox

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FWIW the same stick has been passing through for Z-wave just fine for many months

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I added another pass-through of the USB device, now my System > Hardware shows 4 total USB devices, with 2 unique serials. They only differ at the very end: if00-port0 vs if01-port0

faint dagger
#

Any info on the number of devices the Sky Connect will support?

hybrid cloud
#

Is there any way to make these slider numbers for device settings adjustable by input rather than the horrendous slider

molten linden
#

I think you could make an input number helper then an automation that takes that and calls the service with the inputted number

hybrid cloud
#

That is definitely more effort than I had hoped but might be worth doing

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No way to make those appear on the settings page though is there

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Device info page

glacial zinc
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Is the XiaomiMeteringCluster new in Aqara switches? They are supposed to provide power metering, but HA doesn't seem to support it?

mellow geode
tall tusk
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I cant seem to wake my aqara door switchs up. I hold the button and they blink but they dont reconnect to HA

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Deleting it and re adding it works but thats gonna be a pain if i need to do that alot? I only had them for about 2 weeks

mortal night
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Anybody encountered an issue where the zigbee smart switch is able to be controlled from HAOS directly when you click on/off the switch in dashboard but it doesn't respond to when you on/off the group? After you click the group, it shows as on in the dashboard but it actually isn't on at the physical switch

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The status of the switch in HAOS is different from the physical switch

hybrid cloud
hybrid cloud
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Asking ChatGPT for some ideas for my vibration sensor and this shit is just hilarious

Indoor garden monitoring: If you have an indoor garden, you could use a vibration sensor to detect when your plants need watering. By placing the sensor in the soil, you could detect when the soil is dry and trigger an alert to remind you to water your plants.

glacial zinc
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Yea I don't think we need to be worried about super AIs anytime soon. Though people are going to get hurt by following dumb advice from ChatGPT for sure!

distant pivot
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Does somebody know a good light switch that works in Germany(Voltage and Size)? I have a smart light that resets its brightness when the power gets cut, so i'm searching for a smart light switch which lets power through all the time/which just sends a signal to homeassistant

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Does somebody know a product like this?

hybrid cloud
# distant pivot Does somebody know a good light switch that works in Germany(Voltage and Size)? ...

You'll want to check to see whether you're light switch has a neutral wire or not and whether it's a single pole or three-way switch. Then make sure you get something that fits those two specs.

You can find a comprehensive list of devices here. The kind you're looking for will be any other dimmer or switches category. Can't recommend any myself but you can check that site to see if they're compatible with your zigbee installment type
https://zigbee.blakadder.com/switches.html

hybrid cloud
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hey, i just got the aqara vibration sensor and there are zha events for tilt and orientation. im trying to figure out, whats the difference between the two, apart from the fact that tilt has one value. is there anything special about that parameter

sour shadow
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If it's like Z2M there's three tilt values, one for each axis

hybrid cloud
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theres a current_orientation with 3 axis values, tilt is just one single value labeled degrees

grim igloo
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Interesting what would you use those for? Like if it was mounted to a door that swings open?

hybrid cloud
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perhaps, i thought maybe it had something to do with the difference between the last and new orrientation tried tilting the device and it never seemed to line up with a degree change from current orientation. perhaps it has something to do with acceleration

clever cedar
#

Guys my zigbee just suddenly stopped working i have a ZHA SLZB-06 wifi connected, everything works i can see it troug my wifi and access but its not connecting (all my lights are on)

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my zha logs reads

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/config_entries.py", line 383, in async_setup
result = await component.async_setup_entry(hass, self)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/init.py", line 122, in async_setup_entry
await zha_gateway.async_initialize()
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 220, in async_initialize
raise exc
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 205, in async_initialize
self.application_controller = await app_controller_cls.new(

sudden yarrow
regal orbit
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Any recommendations for solid zigbee routers? Specifically light bulbs? Drastically need to improve my system

peak vapor
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I'm happy with the sonoff dongle. using Z2M though

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what's wrong with the bulbs?

calm shard
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Aqara E1 roller shade driver in ZHA, can’t get it as a cover?

So I have some Aqara E1 roller shade drivers connected to a SkyConnect, so I’m using ZHA.

When I first paired them all I had to do the following, with help from this group.

Go to the device settings. Settings > Devices & Integrations > You Zigbee controller > Your E1 device

PRESS THE 3 DOTS

CLICK MANAGE ZIGBEE DEVICE

Click the top drop down, labelled clusters and click analog output

The click the lower dropdown labelled attributes

Choose max_preset_value

Click Get Zigbee Attribute. The Value field will show the wrong value: 0.0

Change this to the right vaue: 100.0

Click write Zigbee Attribute

Do the same with min_present_value
min_present_value seems to be wanting to be “none”

Now this works but not as a cover, only a number. See photo of what it exposes

Here’s some pics of the number card and the cover card Imgur: The magic of the Internet

For some reason one of the cover cards says unknown when opened and the other two work as they should in the cover card but don’t actually do anything to the blind.

All I do atm is set a scene for 0 on the number card and a scene for 100 which is fully opened and fully closed, then I just call the scenes in my automations.

I’m baffled as to why it doesn’t come up as a cover, only a number and what I can do to solve this.

Apologies if the explanation was terrible, I wasn’t sure how to explain it!

wide grotto
calm shard
wide grotto
calm shard
calm shard
wide grotto
dire owl
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Hey all, I got this ZHA compatible smoke detector. Gave it a test: smoke detector went off but no notification in HA. Any idea why? The device does it regular 2 hr check in, signal is about - 75 dBm

strong mason
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Any recommendations on a trustworthy manufacturer for high amp switches? My hot water tank is on a manual switch and I don't know if I want to trust moes/loratap with 4kw.

clever cedar
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I think I’m going to attach a little 5v ups on the coordinator

strong mason
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Can heartily recommend that idea. I run everything in HA on a mini-PC and the whole shebang goes through a line interactive UPS.

peak vapor
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I just have a 1500VA UPS for the servers

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monitored using nut

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just so then stuff can gracefully shut down and get notified

limpid light
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lol

peak vapor
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just shut everything down as soon as the power trips... I mean you aren't gonna need much running imo

strong mason
neat crescent
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I am trying to reconnect my SkyConnect which stopping working last night. Anything Ideas why I keep getting a "Unknown error occured" when trying to set up the SkyConnect Multi-PAN.

glossy lintel
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basically, one device in the group will stop responding to the scenes of the group.

#

if you manually click the individual device switch in the UI, it works without an problem

lavish edge
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o/ hey, i need some help with reconnecting Conbee II (with latest firmware) to ZHA. I can see the Conbee II in the list of all hardware in HA, but when I try to restore the device by using the radio migration function, it says it cannot connect. Sometimes, after trying the migration, the radio disappears from the virtual machine HA is running in.
edit: removed the ZHA, HA discovered ConBee II itself, when clicking "configure" it trows "Failed to probe the usb device".

lusty trench
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Which company in your opinion is most reliable in zigbee field? Aqara? I have been using SONOFF and form time to time there is some problem with senors ( windows/doors )

sour shadow
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Aqara's Zigbee 3.0 ranges (E1/T1/P1) are all rock solid. Their older Zigbee 1.2 stuff is fussy but can work well.

wide grotto
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I cant see my battery status for my aqara curtain driver e1 and for the life of me I cant update the firmware. (Using ZHA) Any solutions?

mellow geode
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Check the zha-device-handlers repo

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And the zigpy wiki contains OTA info

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Firmware is in the zigbee-OTA repo

trail warren
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I'm planning to merge from my Unraid Zigbee2MQTT setup to the Yellow (Zigbee vs Silicon Labs Multiprotocol?) - does anyone know of a streamlined way to transition? Is it worth moving from my external zigbee radio (Slaesh's CC2652RB stick) to the internal one in the yellow?

hybrid cloud
#

struggling a little to figure out the difference between the RTCGQ01LM and RTCGQ11LM

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xiaomi and aqara motion detectors respectively

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as far asi can figure out the only difference is the branding and the fact that the xiaomi one hasno illuminance and comes without a stand

#

internet is not much help, does anyone know the differences between the 2

waxen sonnet
onyx valve
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hi! I need some advice with zigbee device on HA. I have a sonoff usb zigbee coordinateur. I recently bought a zigbee light, successfuly added in my HA. But now I also want to voice control this light...so I tried to add it to ewelink app.... but it says I need a Hub... and I don't know if my HA can be seen as a zigbee hub ?

sour shadow
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If you want voice control, why not connect Google or Alexa to HA, then you can control everything in HA?

grim igloo
#

You misspelled Siri

onyx valve
grim igloo
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There’s guides for all of that online

#

HomeKit works in a couple clicks the evil amazon and google data collectors need more configuration for free I think

onyx valve
#

so, do you know if there is a chance to add the zigbee bulb to ewelink app using HA as hub?

grim igloo
#

No you’re confusing what you’re doing with what shit says on the box

snow wolf
#

Google and Amazon bad

#

Use Siri

shrewd pewter
#

I created a second HA instance for tests, and i'm configuring zigbee2mqtt on it.
Can I use a specific form of mqtt://core-mosquitto:1883 to separate it from my main MQTT server?

snow wolf
#

Which install method? You shouldn't need to. That hostname is internal to the Docker network so it'll point at whichever MQTT server is local to your test box

shrewd pewter
#

even if the test box is on same network?

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it's installed on a mini pc directly

snow wolf
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HA OS?

shrewd pewter
#

yes

snow wolf
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Yeah, if you inspect the containers you'll see that they have their own separate Docker network

shrewd pewter
#

Any reason I get 502: Bad Gateway on z2m UI?
username and password for the mqtt user are correct
usb port is correct

snow wolf
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Sounds like the web UI isn't running/listening

#

502 is probably from HA ingress itself

#

Telling you it couldn't connect to the backend

shrewd pewter
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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-04-09 23:39:34: Error: network commissioning timed out - most likely network with the same panId or extendedPanId already exists nearby

#

I get this on logs

snow wolf
#

Did you do something like copying configs from your main HA machine to the test box?

#

I don't use z2m so will be of limited help. Dunno if that error would cause it not to start the web UI for some reason

grim igloo
#

The logs are pretty self explanatory it’s seeing another network using the same security features pan I’d etc and choosing not to start

#

You have a second zigbee coordinator right?

#

On the second instance?

shrewd pewter
#

Yes

grim igloo
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And you changed zero config on either from default?

shrewd pewter
#

I'm planing to transfer this unit to another apartment with a different network, will it start properly then?

grim igloo
#

Look at the pin in this channel

#

Z2m defaults to an insecure setup cuz (insert no good reason here)

#

Zha does not have the same behavior thankfully

shrewd pewter
#

will it sort itself out in another location?

#

i'm using Sonoff-P, updated firmware

grim igloo
#

I gave you plenty of info to answer that question yourself man

shrewd pewter
#

Unrelated to the last question

What do you think is the best method to add new zigbee devices, by "permit all" and let it automatically choose the best router, or, change it to permit to specific router, to choose manually what I think is the closest router to the new added device?

grim igloo
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I believe it depends on the device but in theory it shouldn’t matter

#

Like for hue bulbs I think they get a new route after power loss and also on some other intervals. There isn’t some blanket rule iirc

#

It’s definitely best to build out the mesh starting at the coordinator

#

And add end devices last

#

You can’t do a full network heal on zigbee like you can on zwave which is a downside

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@mellow geode any info I missed / anything you can add?

shrewd pewter
#

I changed PanID, Channel and ExtPan ID,
and I still get
Error: network commissioning timed out - most likely network with the same panId or extendedPanId already exists nearby

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any ideas?

grim igloo
#

Network key too?

shrewd pewter
#

yeah

mellow geode
grim igloo
#

they'd migrate anyways tho right?

peak vapor
#

it would be interesting to visualize the graph changes over time

zenith rose
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hey guys, need some help.
I have SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus
and I have previously added sonoff zbmini.
But now, I am not able to add new zbmini.
any clue? is it a setting thing?
I have latest version of HA

zenith rose
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it's not even discovered

errant gate
#

Hey everyone! I’m using the Hue Bridge to connect both Hue bulbs and IKEA bulbs. Suddenly today all non hue bulbs are unresponsive. I’m curious if others are seeing this issue.

mellow geode
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Are they also unresponsive in the Hue app or just in HA?

errant gate
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In the Hue app as well. Looks like there was a hue bridge update mar 30. Guess mine must have updated today. Curious if they’re going back to the old days of not supporting 3rd party devices. I also have other Eria devices not connecting through the hub.

#

Ended up just getting a zigbee wireless adapter from my HA Pi that should arrive soon.

onyx valve
tall pike
#

Would you consider throwing out the Lidl tuya-based gateway and getting a universal ZigBee coordinator instead? Together with Home Assistant and ZHA or Z2M, it will let you build a much more flexible and stronger ZigBee network.

sour shadow
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You can flash that gateway and use it with ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

trim cape
dense tartan
#

ANYONE got a good lead on a article or vid about getting started with zigbee and HA?

sour shadow
#

other than the docs for ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT... there's not really one

#

More ... dozens of different takes on what is "good"

#

You need to start by picking between ZHA (built into HA) or Zigbee2MQTT (external) - and there's a pinned message summarising the differences

crisp pewter
#

Anyone got experience with opening the Silvercrest Gateway? I want to root it so I have to open it in order to access the PCB. I read that it doesn't have screws and I have to pry it open from the edges. But the edges are very thin I can barely get inside

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I can get a thin scalpel inside it but I think it might break if I try to bend it

inland agate
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Do you have a prying tool? It has some clips facing outward

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Hold on, let me try and take a picture of what's inside

crisp pewter
#

Ah I just googled prying tool maybe I should have just ordered one of those I just bought a scalpel knife

inland agate
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When I first opened it, I used a thin flat screwdriver

#

But a prying tool works best, yeah

#

mind you, it's not easy to open

crisp pewter
#

That I noticed. I'm trying to get just enough of a gap with the scalpel in order to get a screwdriver in

#

I found how the inside looks

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So did you create a gap on every edge before being able to open it?

inland agate
#

Damn, I can't upload pics. Yes, I had to spread the wall away from the base to get it opened

#

it has 8 connection points, 4 on the corners and 4 on the middle of the sides

crisp pewter
#

Finallyy I got it open

inland agate
#

just as I was finally uploading the pics 😅

crisp pewter
#

Haha well I found a thinner screwdriver and managed to get it in and when I twisted it it finally popped

#

The rest was easy

inland agate
#

the soldered pins will fit in the case if you make them face the same side as the ethernet port

crisp pewter
#

Did you solder the serial port onto the board?

inland agate
#

just a 6 pin header and then used Dupont connectors

#

I would not want imperfect electrical connections when fiddling with a brickable device 😄

crisp pewter
#

Ah I do have the dupont connectors but not a 6 pin header unfortunately

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I was thinking of just fitting them in and hoping they would stay connected 😆

inland agate
#

I wish you the best of luck. and I also advise against it

crisp pewter
#

You think it might short that way?

inland agate
#

no, I think it won't make a good connection and you may end up with corrupted data

#

shorts could happen only if a wire pops out completely

crisp pewter
#

Ahh that makes sense

#

I'll go and check if I can find those in the store

inland agate
#

I personally prefer male pins on boards and female connectors for wires, but if you get a 6-pin female connector, that will work. Don't get other sizes, as they are difficult to cut down to spec 🙂

crisp pewter
#

Did you solder the header on to the board?

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Or would it be safe enough without soldering?

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I kinda want to avoid soldering because I'm not able to desolder very well with my soldering iron

inland agate
#

I soldered it. a male, 6-pin header, straight (not 90-degree bent) pins. it's the safest way. You could probably stick some wires in there without soldering, but I really wouldn't advise it

inland agate
crisp pewter
#

Ah yes ofcourse when I have a header I don't have to desolder it

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Thanks I'll go and try to find a 6 pin header

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I guess I will have to order and wait I can't find any physical stores around that sell it

dense tartan
#

do you lads buy zigbee items off aliexpress or ?

wet oyster
#

has anyone any recommendations for a zigbee siren? I want to make some noise in case weird activity is detected in my home

crisp pewter
#

@inland agate I managed to get the KEK and AUS-KEY hex strings but when I put them into the python script I get the following error:

  print("Auskey:", auskey.decode("ascii"))
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xad in position 1: ordinal not in range(128)```

Do you know what I could be doing wrong?
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I have to say I installed pycryptodome instead of pycrypto because it didn't work for me

inland agate
#

I did this more than 1 year ago, I can't remember the specifics. We are a bit off topic in this channel, though. drop me a PM and I'll get back as soon as I can to try and help out

crisp pewter
#

Alright thanks man

waxen nimbus
#

Is there any stability/performance/other difference between Ethernet and USB dongles?

grim igloo
#

And ability to place it in a more central location much easier

waxen nimbus
#

And less of a hassle with synology NASes sans usb drivers, is my guess.

#

But just practical concerns, then

grim igloo
#

word

carmine hamlet
#

Power over Raccoon

grim igloo
#

I did indeed mean PoE

halcyon hamlet
#

I'm using Zigbee2Mqtt, and for some reason it keeps recognizing Iris Contact as a Philips Hue Bulb, any way to fix that error?

echo yarrow
#

so, moving over to the yellow. Debating on if I should continue with my tubez poe coordinator, or if I should use the built in silicon labs chip.

grim igloo
#

Same chipset if it’s the efr isn’t it tube?

molten linden
#

the modules or you can continue using the PoE and just use the yellow's radio for thread/matter

echo yarrow
#

the tube is the older c2952 or whatever, pre silicon labs.

molten linden
#

they are the same vintage lol

grim igloo
#

Are you moving from z2m to zha ?

echo yarrow
#

it's the hockey puck one.

molten linden
#

the 2652 and mgm21 came out around the same time

echo yarrow
#

I haven't decided yet on z2m v zha

molten linden
#

I wouldn't move for the sake of moving.

grim igloo
#

I’m a fan of how z2m handles button presses vs events with zha on a lot of devices

echo yarrow
#

yeah, magic cube looked interesting.

grim igloo
#

I have three they’re fun

echo yarrow
#

I'm leaning towards sticking with z2m on the yellow

#

spent last night recovering zwave. 🙂

grim igloo
#

I do shake to toggle lights in a room and twist counter clockwise for -20% brightness and clockwise for +20%

#

Ya sorry dude it’s painless if you flash the right device lmao

echo yarrow
#

haha, I had the switch checked.

grim igloo
#

It happens

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I used the home assistant gui to do the updates not zui

echo yarrow
#

"this is easy..." "she's dead jim"

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yeah, the update service isn't working.

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started digging into that and needs setup/api key.

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bricking the zwave stick just accelerated moving over to the yellow.

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hmm. is it possible to bring all my zigbee stuff into the yellow if I continue to use the tubez coordinator?

grim igloo
#

Yes

#

Haos restore carries over addons

#

Just make sure to reboot the host not restart hass after a successful restore

echo yarrow
#

I don't want to carry over all the cruft.

#

lots of crap in there that I was playing with but isn't in "production"

onyx briar
onyx briar
echo yarrow
#

Strobe all your lights or get some strobes and turn all the lights off, have all the curtains close, doors lock, then crank drowning pool "let the bodies hit the floor" interspersed with the sound of a shotgun racking a round.

onyx briar
#

Somebody's Watching Me by Rockwell would also be a good choice

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But I feel like if anyone is wild enough to break into your house, they probably aren't going to be swayed by much other than a direct confrontation. My door sensors are primarily for making sure the cat doesn't get out.

molten linden
echo yarrow
#

I think I'll just keep with your coordinator and free up the onboard one for matter.

lavish edge
echo yarrow
#

and now that I'm paying attention, a couple of motion sensors need CR2 batteries. ugh. Best motion sensor I've found though, the smartthings one that is now made by aeotec.

onyx briar
#

The novelty of having a small devices has waned for me and I'd much rather be able to swap out some NiMH cells then have to pitch a button

sour shadow
#

The Frient "mini"/Develco MOSZB-140 uses two AA batteries

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Most of my other motion sensors use button cells and those last as long, if not longer

onyx briar
#

Oh nice! Thank you, I know the button cells can last a long time I just don't like the waste

sour shadow
#

Well, rechargeable batteries don't tend to work well in these situations, they're rarely good at long life low draw

onyx briar
#

I have some Tuya temperature sensors that use AAA's and they've been running well with IKEA recargable cells

sour shadow
#

Nice

onyx briar
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I know it's different from device to device so I'm just keeping my options open

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I appreciate the link

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I also have some sonnoff temperature sensors that use CR2450's and I think once I run through my stock I'll experiment with modding them to connect to a AAA battery holder

peak vapor
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I tried ordering those ones you have to plug in

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it's from aliexpress so never know when they'll show up

onyx briar
#

do they act as routers as well?

peak vapor
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I think so

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I ordered the Tuya ZY-M100 so we'll see

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I hear it's slow start up but I wanted it for more when the room empties

sour shadow
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I've heard good things of the ZY-M100 - it can react faster than the FP1

onyx briar
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neat!