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molten linden
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assume when you say both are connecting, it's to the same mqtt server right?

ocean cloak
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From mosquitto:

2023-02-05 09:43:24: Client <unknown> closed its connection.
2023-02-05 09:45:24: New connection from 172.30.32.2:47900 on port 1883.
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Every 2 minutes

stone locust
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so... is there a good way to know ahead of time that two zigbee devices will work with each other? the more i play with zigbee and z-wave, z-wave just feels far superior, largely working correctly out of the box. as far as i can tell, theres no way to know if two zigbee devices are compatible with each other

sour shadow
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Well... sort of

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Xiaomi's Zigbee 1.2 devices have some well documented (see the pinned messages) issues

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Tuya is likely to be a shit show, don't buy anything Tuya without careful research

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Everything else, other than Sonoff's end devices, should be fine

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My own mesh is a mix of Xiaomi's 1.2 and 3.0 devices, Develco/Frient, Hue, Tradfri, Gledopto, Linkind, and probably some other stuff I've forgotten

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Oh yes, Terncy

thorn cobalt
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What should work best?

  1. Adding +/- 60 main powered devices (hue lights) directly via skyconnnect
    After pairing these lights, should i pair any new devices mains, or battery powerd to the earlier added individual devices?

  2. First add all devices +/- 180 mains and after tat add +/- 80 battery powerd devices

sour shadow
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I'd work by pairing the mains powered devices, that act as routers, out in a spiral from the coordinator. Then pair all the end devices

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Remember to force any Xiaomi devices to pair through a specific router

stone locust
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aqara and xiaomi are the same, right?

sour shadow
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Xiaomi do more than just Aqara

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Their other main range is Mijia, but I'm sure there's more

turbid willow
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I'm currently using a HUBZ device for zwave and zigbee, I just received my skyconnect and was trying to migrate the zigbee radio to it, however after it finished the interface still shows the hubz as the coordinator. Is there an extra step I need to do? I still need to have the hubz connect for the zwave radio for now

stone locust
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so, the aqara devices that are failing here, im assuming theyre zigbee 1.2. is there a controller that is known to work with them? conbee 2 has been mentioned by some

floral plinth
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I've had nothing but issues with Sengled bulbs

sour shadow
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The Skyconnect is fine (with ZHA)

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Lots of people use sticks based on the same chipset with ZHA and have no issues with Xiaomi devices

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It's the routers that matter more

stone locust
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so what im trying to fish out here is... what do i actually do to resolve this

sour shadow
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Did you read the pinned message about Xiaomi?

stone locust
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they pair though

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actually, pairing with the skyconnect works a lot better than with the old hub i used, they show up pretty much instantly

sour shadow
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I'll take that to be no I haven't

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You should

stone locust
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i misread, i read "bottom message about xiaomi"

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though looking over it again, thats the only message i find and its about pairing?

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nevermind, saw another very hidden one XD

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ill try some of the advice there

floral plinth
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So my devices that won't reset. I am going through and pulling them down from the ceiling, set the timeout to 120 seconds, watch them go offline to make sure its them, then are manually resetting the bulbs. Only 150 more to go!

glossy lintel
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hmmm.... so I have two nice scenes, working great when activated through HA. And as soon I assign them to one of these new ikea buttons I have, same issue as for rest of the house, some lights are not responding, and are not "taking" the scene

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this is so weird, so so soooo weird 😄

floral plinth
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How do I get rid of Zigbee devices that don't have a remove button?

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Looks like that

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There are like 30+ of them

glossy lintel
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don't you see this when selecting the device, and click on the three dots menu ?

molten linden
ocean cloak
glossy lintel
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anyone here knows if there is a zigbbee device existing that beeps ? something I could stick on my remote controllers to find them when I ask alexa ?

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I already can do this with my shield tv remote but would like to do this for the other remote controllers

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🙂

strange ibex
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I haven't seen anything small enough to add to a remote. I use Tile, if you ever give up on the zigbee.

molten linden
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if you want to use 1 coordinator in prod and dev

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just point both environments to same mqtt server.

barren stratus
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Hello, ive got a propblem. Just flashed the MultiPAN firmware on my skyconnect. Now im unable to use ZHA

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It cant connect to the dongle

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The multpan addon is running

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Is there anything special to choose? Migrate Radio -> Actual Device -> Choose the stick -> EZSP -> 115200 and Software?

floral plinth
turbid willow
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@sour shadow any insight on my issue?

sour shadow
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If I had any insight I'd have suggested something @turbid willow

ocean cloak
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It didn't bother me that it didn't work before because I wanted both environments the same. I usually only use my test server briefly before doing an update to core major versions

molten linden
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different firmware versions have allowed or not allowed multiple connections to the coord.

floral plinth
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What is a normal energy-scan for a network with a lot of devices? Channel 20 had the least interference, close to 0%. But when I put all my devices over there it goes up to 50%+

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Now 25 shows 1% so debating moving

distant plaza
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in Z2M: Transmit power of adapter, only available for Z-Stack

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so how can i do it for EZSP? do i need to edit the firmware ?

sour shadow
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Don't bother

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Making your coordinator shout louder doesn't help the devices that are trying to talk to it

distant plaza
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i am having some instabilities (random disconnects/ reconnect) sometimes devices needs to be repaired in order to work

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i am already on channel 25, which is the best one for me

sour shadow
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You won't fix it by making the coordinator louder

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You've done all the usual things?

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Used a USB extension cable?

distant plaza
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i beleive so

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i did but it's a usb 3.0 one

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but only 0.5 meter so dosen't sound bad to me

sour shadow
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0.5 meter is maybe too short

distant plaza
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i have my home assistant board in a small box

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then 0.5 cable goes out and is exposed outside

sour shadow
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You may need a longer cable

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Your problem may also be that your routers are too far away/suffering interference/crap routers

distant plaza
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do you think it could be a problem even if i have a 80+ Lqi on my devices

sour shadow
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Yes

distant plaza
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and some routers for an healthy network

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i will give you my map 🙂

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maybe the fact that i am using the EFR32MG21 sonoff dongle E (not P) which is considered as experimental

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but a lot of people online seem to still have a stable network with this dongle so..

austere patio
barren stratus
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Addon starts not always correct and my whole ha crashed after a few mins

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Dont need the multipan for now. I guess in a few months its more stable

turbid drum
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with Z2M - I'd like to setup a button to trigger an automation... but I want to ensure that I'm only capturing the button press action and no other actions... How do I do this?

Is there an event log like in z-wave JS?

I'm watching the logs in z2m, but... don't think I can see anything when I push the button.

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I also looked in the logbook... which, does show an action, but... doesn't give any specifics.

sour shadow
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That'd be a state trigger on the action entity

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The history of the entity will tell you what the actions are, as should the doc page for the device

turbid drum
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yeah, I'm trying to find detailed info about the action in order to capture the right thing

sour shadow
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These days, the HA automation builder will also list the states that it has previously seen

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So, do whatever action it is you want, and then check what the UI proposes

turbid drum
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hrmm... k, let me try

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so, for trigger, I choose state, input the entity (sensor.button_action) and then in the from and to fields, it only offers "Unavailable" and "Unknown"

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the button: Aqara wireless switch - model: WXKG11LM

sour shadow
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Push the button

turbid drum
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I have

hollow sierra
sour shadow
turbid drum
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oh, nice

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so... let me explain the situation further...

I have a button that when pressed, triggers an automation.

current trigger:
platform: state
entity_id:

  • sensor.button_action

This seems to capture ALL actions from the button.

The issue I'm trying to track is: this works as expected... but... sometimes, seems to happen without pushing the button too...

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my thought on a solution is to try and find specific data that happens when the button is pushed to limit it to only that action.

sour shadow
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It lists all the valid options

turbid drum
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yeah... I'm not sure I know how to setup the trigger to use that though... :\

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I think I have to use an event trigger instead of state

sour shadow
turbid drum
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I'm guessing it would be something like:

trigger:
platform: event
event_type: zha_event
data:
device_id: "1222011164fad43b63125b103bb72161"
command: "single"

sour shadow
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For Z2M?

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No

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So many no...

turbid drum
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for z2m

sour shadow
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- platform: state
  entity_id: sensor.button_action
  to: 'single'
turbid drum
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well that example isnt z2m... but... again... I don't know how to do this. :\

sour shadow
turbid drum
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I am not arguing that the link shows the possible values.

However, that link doesn't say where or how to setup a trigger to use them

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but... you've told me now, so I'll give it a try

sour shadow
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They're the state of that topic, which is the topic the sensor uses

turbid drum
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so then question.
If this is the state of that button, and it goes in the "to" or "from" fields... and HA adds seen states to those fields in the UI now... why aren't they there?

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(I am on most current HA version for generic OS)

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doesn't really matter... just wondering if that could mean there's other issues

turbid drum
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I'll monitor it to see if setting this to the specific value I want cures the problem.

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Thanks again!

prime raft
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Hi there,
I'm starting off with ZHA integration. I plugged the Skyconnect stick, and added a Philips Hue bulb (acting as relay) and a first hue motion sensor. Everything worked smoothly, but the following day, the motion sensor is "unavailable". The Hue bulb is rarely switched on, and I guess it was a bad idea to add it to the Zigbee network.
Is there a way to "rewire" the motion detector to the Skyconnect stick, and ignore the Hue bulb, please?

mellow geode
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So you’re physically switching off the power for the Hue bulb?

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Also, what is the model number of the Hue sensor? SML001?

prime raft
turbid drum
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any particular reason you have a zigbee smart bulb that you leave switched off (not able to be used as a smart bulb)?

prime raft
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Also the kids and my wife don't use HA, only homekit, so if I remove a bulb from the Hue app, I need to quickly add it through the homekit integration so that they can use it again 🙂

turbid drum
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I watched a video once that talked about smart home theory, and... it changed my entire view on it. it was really good.

TLDR: Your smart lighting should not be something that anybody has to think about. You should strive to not need controls or switches. Things should also be guest friendly.

If you have to use an app in order to use the lights, it's not guest friendly, and... you've effectively just moved the control for the light from the wall switch to a personal device that you need to authenticate into.

If I find the video, I'll post it... (was well done)

rapid dawnBOT
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The Principle Of Least Astonishment means that things should work in an obvious way - don't expect that you can teach people to do things differently to how they've always done it

sour shadow
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My view is always that light switches should do what people expect them to do - if they don't then you failed

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how they do that ... that's up to you

turbid drum
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I'd love that. mine.... don't. :\

prime raft
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I agree. I use smart switches everywhere in the house, now (Legrand), having learned from this first Hue experience. We were using the bulb as "dumb bulb" until I tried to add it to the Zigbee network. I guess I need to consider removing it from HA completely and restart the Zigbee network.

sour shadow
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The only bulbs you can safely cut the power to are Sengled ones - they're not routers

prime raft
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Removing the bulb from the Zigbee network, and resetting the motion detector worked. I was able to re-add it. I changed the "consider battery powered devices unavailable after" to one day, hoping to help with the issue. I wonder if it would create a problem when we are out of the house for a couple of days.

I found a few links from people reporting similar issues when using Skyconnect and Hue motion detectors, but everyone appeared to be like me, a beginner adding its first sensors.

wispy vine
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Still no luck. ZHA integration still needs to be reloaded every hour or so. Zigbee items all still show they have a network connection for a while after the integration stops working.

simple abyss
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Hi everyone, slowly I am getting there. I was able to get Z2m to start without any obvious error message

rapid dawnBOT
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@simple abyss I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.yaml
sand wedge
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Are there any good Zigbee solutions for power monitoring my washer (120v ~15-20A) and my dryer (240V, 10-30p outlet)? I can't find much online so I'm guessing not really?

simple abyss
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Now when I go to the Z2M website in HA and click permit join and get the counter I am not able to join any of my smart plugs. I set them into pairing but the counter runs to zero and nothing happening

uneven ruin
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how far away are your devices?

hasty wagon
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some dont, so do check it

floral plinth
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How do you guys handle flood lights that are recessed and in a steel can? No interference issues?

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What is the best bulb out there for flood lights? White and Multi Color

sour shadow
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Where in the world are you?

floral plinth
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I am in Pennsylvania

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I just started to readd my 200 lights and the first 9 are already giving me issues

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I can't figure out th eproblem

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54 routers and 9 floods added. All routers are fine. floods, not so much

sand wedge
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@hasty wagon That would be perfect, but I am in the US, that is not the right plug.

hasty wagon
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out

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to

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europe

sand wedge
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Hehe 🙂

hasty wagon
sand wedge
jagged estuary
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Hi, recently an update for a Tradfri Shortcut button popped up in my HASS settings, but when I click install, the progress bar shows up for a millisecond and then vanishes again

nova crest
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I've found that the update triggers the OTA but the status won't show in HA. If you go to Z2M and hit the OTA tab, you should be able to see progress there

neat crescent
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Does anyone know if the Sonoff Zigbee door sensors will connect to Home Assistant using the Sky Connect? The Sonoff product details on Amazon shows you have to have the Sonoff Zigbee Bridge. Thanks!

sour shadow
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They will, but the Sonoff sensors aren't great - buy something better

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If you're aiming purely for cheap then the old Xiaomi (MCCGQ11LM) sensors work. The new E1 (MCCGQ14LM) version is better but costs a little more.

glossy lintel
lime peak
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I see that there seems to be a good consensus on reliability about aquara sensors, I'll have to try them.
zigbee2mqtt says the temp sensor is tuya and door is sonoff.
My current door sensor misses the opening event a lot of times and the temperature one has a really long refresh rate and is not very precise, how's the aquara temperature sensor in that regard?

sour shadow
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Tuya bad

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In terms of refresh, here's a 24 hour view of one of my Aqara sensors - keep in mind the graph is showing a 2C range

image.png
lime peak
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I see a lot of updates and decimal steps, that's what I'm looking for

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mine

sour shadow
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The Terncy "mini" sensor can update more often as you can configure the reporting, but TBH I've never found the Xiaomi ones lacking

lime peak
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aquara does look suitable

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I'm getting a PIR sensor from aqara too while I'm at it

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how about these aquara air quality sensors with the e-ink display? any caveats I should know about them?

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they also have temp and humidity, sounds neat to have hanging around to see the current temp without having to make my own DIY LCD

violet dagger
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they're alright but they do eat batteries faster

lime peak
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how much faster?

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any idea how long they'd last? I'm fine with replacing once a year

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also I'm looking for zigbee switches that go in the wall box, to replace dumb switches, I tried these modules that are supposed to go in the box but they are too big and won't fit, but I can't find any zigbee switches that aren't just touch based, I like to feel the button press

violet dagger
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around 6 months 2 2540 cells

lime peak
violet dagger
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that's weird because there are plenty of momentary zigbee switches

lime peak
violet dagger
lime peak
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thank you

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interesting site there

lofty whale
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Does anyone know how to change the entity type of device in zigbee2mqtt?

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I have a switch (a zigbee module connected to a momentary wall switch) and it is registered as a light in Home Assistant. How do I switch it back to be a switch?

sour shadow
lofty whale
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so I will have edit the configuration.yaml file

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to

glossy narwhal
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I've been restarting my container a few times today, and now I've got this error, any way to recover? I did take a backup this morning.

2023-02-06 10:02:45.393 INFO (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup of domain zha took 0.0 seconds
2023-02-06 10:02:46.558 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha] ZHA storage file does not exist or was already removed
2023-02-06 10:02:46.559 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.config_entries] Error setting up entry SkyConnect v1.0 for zha
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/__init__.py", line 111, in async_setup_entry
await zha_gateway.async_initialize()
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 170, in async_initialize```
glossy narwhal
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Tried unplugging/plugging SkyConnect, no luck. Feels like I've lost all the setup 😦

patent mason
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I'm trying to setup a zigbee adapter cc2531 with zha.
the device appear in the list but seems is not being properly recognized.
After few seconds a new dialog window ask me to select the firmware. If I select the znp it then ask me to confirm the path /dev/ttyACM0 and baud speed 115200 (Serial port settings).
but when I finally click submit it shows the "Failed to connect" error.
Any idea on how I can figure out what is wrong?

(I'm running hass in a docker container)

rapid dawnBOT
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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

What something better? Anything CC2652 based (see here for some) or the current generation EZSP (see here for some).

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

sour shadow
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Did you already flash the stick with coordinator firmware?

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Have you already ordered a replacement?

patent mason
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so this is another thing I was trying to figure out.
I got this adapter from a friend a couple of years back and he told me that it had znp firmware in it and that it should have the SBL (serial boot loader) support.

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So I'm not entirelly sure on what actually is in it but I could try to flash it.

sour shadow
patent mason
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I've found the repo with the firmware but it is not clear if the firmwares in there support sbl

sour shadow
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Seriously though, if you're planning on using more than a couple of sensors right next to the stick ... buy something better

patent mason
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there are instructions on how to compile with that suport

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well I'm just getting started with hass and I'm trying to setup what I have at hand (this stick) and a hue motion sensor

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(not yet successfully)

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But yes I'm considering getting something better

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I've found a seller that has the sonoff (something something E) that seems to be experimental

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I'm wondering in practice how decent my experience would be with it.

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what hw do you personally use?

sour shadow
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Well, I don't use the CC2531

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They're the bargain basement version of a Zigbee stick, and ever 2 or 3 years ago were pretty crap

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I use Zigbee2MQTT so I use CC2652 based coordinators, with ZHA you can use either those or the EZSP such as the Sonoff E

patent mason
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there is something else I do not yet fully understand since you are now mentioning z2m.

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It looks like zha is a standalone integration. (newer?) and z2m is some kind of a separate project that expose zigbee devicess over mqtt?

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how do you then put everything together?

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do you just use a mqtt hass integration?

sour shadow
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ZHA is built into HA, and Zigbee2MQTT isn't.

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And yes, you use the MQTT integration

patent mason
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so I imagine that the mqtt might be convenient if you want to attach something else to control your devices other than hass. but beside that is there any reason why you might want to use one over the other?

sour shadow
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I can upgrade Z2M - and downgrade it - separately from HA

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Z2M has a clear list of devices that work, ZHA doesn't

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I can run Z2M on a different computer to HA

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Z2M has a really nice UI for managing everything

patent mason
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Got it. Thank you!

floral plinth
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So after debugging my lights all night. I might have some bad ones, not totally sure. When they go offline now it looks like its just the on/off control. I have adaptive lighting running on them and the color and brightness adapt I just can't turn them on and off. Really weird.

pine carbon
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@mellow geode Hello, sorry for disturbing, I don't know where properly request for adding consumer_connected attribute for Aquara Plug, it's very similar to power_outage_memory as added here but has id 0x0207 and it's a binary_sensor instead switch. Thanks in advance. https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/80444

mellow geode
pine carbon
mellow geode
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Huh, sounds interesting

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What is the Zigbee model id of your plug?

pine carbon
pine carbon
clever cedar
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Hello guys!, I was wondering if there's a way to set the zigbee smart lights to go to last known state after a power out at zigbee level by device?

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some of my chinesse lights go on and some others go to last state (same brand)

raven jewel
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Yes, but it's a per device setting and requires the device to support it

clever cedar
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any documentation?, I'm on "Manage Zigbee Device" on "clusters" i see "onoff" and some commands but don't want to change anything without knowing

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don't mind on doing it per device, i think that'll be the best solution

raven jewel
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Are you using Z2M or ZHA?

clever cedar
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zha

raven jewel
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Well unless you see something called "power restore" or similar, I wouldn't know what to change

clever cedar
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i see off, off with effect, on, on with recall global scene, on with timed off and toggle

raven jewel
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Well not every light supports this.

clever cedar
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startup_on_off

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maybe i can force all my lights off

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in attributes

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when i "read value" it reads "none"

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the attribute name is startup_on_off (0x4003)

snow terrace
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Anyone else having issues with Conbee II and latest addon from Deconz? It cant seem to connect to a network :/

humble mulch
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Hi guys, i am looking for information regarding the ikea driver SILVERGLANS, i tried to search with in: zigbee silverglans in the search field but nothing came up.. am I searching correctly or is this driver not compatible with HA? I was just wondering coz I saw the Zigbee logo in the box...

sour shadow
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By HA do you mean ZHA?

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ZHA doesn't have a list of known working devices

humble mulch
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nop, HOME ASSISTANT

sour shadow
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Well, HA uses ZHA for Zigbee

humble mulch
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I actually use the conbee II

sour shadow
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So, if you're doing Zigbee directly in HA you're using ZHA - or you're using deCONZ or Zigbee2MQTT externally

humble mulch
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I am confused now 😄

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I used the conbee USB stick with deCONZ

sour shadow
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Are you still using deCONZ?

humble mulch
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Yes

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is that a malpractice or something?

sour shadow
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No, but it means you're really asking if deCONZ supports it

humble mulch
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ah ok, understand.

unreal sedge
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Home assistant in itself doesn't support zigbee, the plugins running on top of it do

humble mulch
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ahhh ok, sorry.. kinda(total) new in HA.

unreal sedge
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and then once the plugin/addon translates the zigbee stuff to entities and devices, that's what home assistant uses to controll stuff

humble mulch
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So i should look up information on compatibility of deCONZ with silverglans then right?

austere patio
clever cedar
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It reads TS0505B by _TZ3210_it1u8ahz, a random chinesse brand

Even if I've found the "Start_up_on_off" attribute on zha?

austere patio
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That attribute is just a part of the specification and thus included in the cluster management interface, the device doesn't itself support it because Tuya

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Does the device have a quirk? If not, Tuya may have their own way to set this.

frank hare
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Did you ever find a solution to stop them from failing? USB extender didn't seem to improve anything

sour shadow
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Don't use them?

frank hare
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Without it it's still an issue though

dusk python
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Does anybody in here use the round Ikea E1810 remotes? I have a pair that seem to have decided they will eat any battery now within days to weeks, even if I buy the good battery brands.

mellow geode
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What integration? What coordinator? What firmware version?

dusk python
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z2m using an old conbee stick

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Hmm maybe there is an update for these remotes tho

sour shadow
frank hare
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Ohh that sounds good, do you have some reference to set that up?

sour shadow
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(aka the message you quoted)

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I use an input_select in HA to handle the room lighting mode, and the logic for that allows me to determine if a light is on when it should be off

frank hare
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Oh thanks I missed that, I'm confused about the HA part though, do you have a screenshot for that? 😅

jagged estuary
sour shadow
clever cedar
jagged estuary
frank hare
rapid dawnBOT
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@frank hare When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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You have to look at that automation in the context of all the others for that room

frank hare
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Mb, but I only have the issue for that one light and it's the only one using that automation

sour shadow
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Then you need to track whether you've turned it on or off (input_boolean) and then if it is on when it shouldn't be (boolean is off) turn it off

frank hare
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Oh wait I think I get it now. So the automation that has issues turns on the light when presence is detected and should turn off when there hasn't been any presence for 2 minutes which sometimes fails. So with this automation instead I should change the trigger to changes to on for 2 minutes?

sour shadow
#

Well... no

#

Any time you turn on the light, turn on the boolean

When you turn the light off, turn off the boolean

Set up reporting of onOff for the bulb

If the bulb "turns on" when the boolean is off, you know that it didn't actually turn off... and you can turn it off again

#

You're just trying to handle the fact that sometimes the bulb didn't turn off when it should have

frank hare
#

Any time you turn on the light, turn on the boolean

When you turn the light off, turn off the boolean
Where is this done?

sour shadow
#

In automations

#

You could also turn off optimistic

frank hare
#

As alternative to the manual checking?

#

In the automation you linked I fail to see where the booleans are set

sour shadow
#

My automation doesn't use booleans

#

My automation uses an input select

frank hare
#

To be honest I find myself reverse engineering all of this but I don't think I'll be able to get it to work without ELI5

peak jasper
#

I currently have ZHA and a HUBZ usb stick. My Skyconnect arrives today. Is it as simple as replacing the stick and making sure the right usb device is configured in ZHA, or is there more to it?

neat crescent
#

@sour shadow I've purchased a Sonoff door sensor and a E1 (MCCGQ14LM). The E1 seems to be on sale right now on Amazon for $17.99 with an additional 15% saving available. Bought the E1 for $16.55 after taxes..

sour shadow
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I mean... that's only a couple of dollars each more than you'd pay from Ali, so it's not terrible

peak jasper
#

ok, I downloaded a backup for just in case, but can I expect "migrate radio" to work from HUBZ to Skyconnect? Anyone tried it yet?

austere patio
lilac river
#

If I have a philips hue hub will a zigbee device connect to it like the thirdreality motion sensor or so I need a zigbee stick??

sour shadow
#

Only if Philips support that device

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Some things will work, but ... shrug

patent sinew
#

Hi, I got a sky connect USB stick. I am using the extension cable... but I found I can't connect to all my sensors spread inside my house. Is there a way to install the USB stick to maximize the builtin antenna performance ?

sour shadow
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Do you also have Zigbee routers?

jagged estuary
#

my Tradfri Shortcut buttons still don't want to update even when triggering it from OTA in z2m, it errors saying that they didn't respond... any ideas?

dire owl
#

Hi, anybody know if you can check the FW of your coordinator in HA? for example, conbeeII?

sour shadow
#

You're using ZHA I take it?

dire owl
#

yes, ZHA

#

forgot to mention that important detail

molten linden
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check the diagnostics download.

dire owl
#

ok, I was not able to find that information in the diagnostics BUT an update was available in May 2022 and I bought the stick in Jan 2022....so, yes, I have to update ...that is what I really wanted to know! thanks all

#

do I have to shut things down before I pull the stick out?

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I'll be doing the update on another computer on Windows

austere patio
dire owl
#

Good question. As of late, I've been seeing this in my logs more and more:

Source: runner.py:128
First occurred: 1:08:29 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 1:08:29 PM

No response to 'Command.aps_data_indication' command with seq id '0xf3'```
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for example

austere patio
#

Firmware updates won't help with this

#

That just means that a device never responded to a command

dire owl
#

so something like improving the mesh might work instead?

austere patio
#

Definitely

dire owl
#

more mains powered devices

#

that is a good point

austere patio
#

I would also make sure your Conbee is well-positioned and on a USB 2.0 extension cable.

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Move it away from any interference sources, like SSDs, USB 3.0 ports, 2.4GHz WiFi, external HDDs, etc.

dire owl
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would I be able to know what device is causing the issue?

austere patio
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Not really, they emit noise and reduce the quality of the connection. Those are the main culprits 99% of the time.

dire owl
#

got it! Ok i think I know what to do now.

#

thank you, sir!

#

as you basically addressed it

austere patio
#

Hmm. What hardware are you running Home Assistant on?

dire owl
#

RPi 4, the conbeeII is on a 2 meter long wire

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SSD is on 5 inch wire

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Zwave stick also on a 2 meter wire

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and thats it

austere patio
#

How many integrations and addons do you have running?

dire owl
#

Probably 40 Integrations and maybe 10 add-ons?

austere patio
#

I think that warning is caused by just HA running slowly. Does it happen only during startup?

dire owl
#

You might be on to something here because I'm also part of this issue here

#

And yes it does happen mostly during startup especially since this problem started

#

And on my last restart Zha took over 120 seconds to start

austere patio
#

ZHA startup is optimized so that it "starts up" almost instantly and communicates with devices later so I think something is just slowing down your HA system and affecting everything else. I would try disabling integrations to see if any are causing issues.

dire owl
#

That you! This is so helpful. I'm going to focus on the slowness issue, first before I tinker with my ZHA.

ionic abyss
#

the last Z2MQTT completely destroy it? 1.30.1-1 seems to have just broken everything

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back in business after restoring to 1.30.0-1 but man that was scary for a bit...

floral plinth
#

What does neighbors mean in HA under manage a device? Is that the devices connected directly to that device?

#

How do you know what router a end device is connected to?

tiny timber
#

Click "Configure" on the Zigbee integration and then Visualization at the top. Some end devices won't show connection lines though.

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(If you're using ZHA that is)

floral plinth
#

Thanks, why is that?

tiny timber
#

Think it's dependant on the coordinator. The lines showed up when I was using SkyConnect, but I reverted to Conbee and now they only show up occasionally.

floral plinth
#

Interesting. I have lines for most of them.

#

I’m just trying to see if I need to strategically place some more routers

tiny timber
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If you click on each device too, it says "Connected via <device>". For me, all of my devices say "Connected via Conbee", even if the mesh visualization shows different connections. May be a bug.

floral plinth
#

Yeah, same here. It always shows connected via the coordinator

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That’s why I was trying to figure out what the neighbors tab was. It just looks like mostly repeater to repeater connections.

little bone
#

hi, i have Zigbee2Mqtt install with Sonoff dongle usb 3.0 plus with the latest firmware version upload. i have always Offline problem with some of my device. What can id oo to be more reliable? i have home assistant install on my Synology with a usb extension.

swift frigate
uncut quartz
#

I have 4 sengled bulbs - same model and firmware - one of the 4 is showing up in colormode xy, and the other 3 are all color_temp. They all should be color_temp.

#

Any ideas why that might be? I've tried reconfiguring that bulb a few times.

vale surge
#

I have the DUMBEST scenario ever. I have just restored a backup and I can control all of my devices and all sensors are reporting BUT the Z2M add on "says" it isnt running, however I can go to the Z2M logs and Z2M is logging stuff as I turn lights on and off.

Anyone got any ideas?

vale surge
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All solved. supervisor not running correctly. figured it out - after restoration and everything is back up and running I went settings/system/hardware/reboot system and it came back up. The tell tale sign was - i also couldnt "check config" cos it coulnt find config.yaml despite file editor and VS code having access to it.

cloud bolt
#

I am trying to use energy-scan after installing zigbee2mqtt to select the best channel, but energy-scan is giving me an error:

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"Couldn't start application"

#

do I need to disable something in order to make energy-scan work?

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never mind, stopping the z2m addon made it work

floral plinth
uncut quartz
flint bridge
#

Hi, I have two questions. I have Egony Zstick V4 (E72-2G4M20S1E). and I'm using z2m. FW is zStack3x0 20210319 reported by z2m and I'm guessing it's egony's fw. Can I change to Koenkk fw without repairing all devices (zigpy save/restore nvram... ) I have 79 devices and some are hard to reach. Second question is can you change zigbee channel without need to repair devices? Thanks in advance. I tried googling but could not find any definitive answer.

floral plinth
#

Does it say xy only? I’m looking at mine and they seem to say both are supported.

#

What model and firmware?

sour shadow
flint bridge
#

@sour shadow I saw that. I changed in GUI and docker would not start, than I saw in log channel List: configured=25, adapter=11 so I edited conf and reverted back to 11

rapid dawnBOT
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@flint bridge Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.
When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

floral plinth
#

So ever since the new option in ZHA came around, “Group members assume state of group”, my bulbs while offline in ZHA still adjust color and brightness so@the group stays in sync. The only issue is when offline you can’t turn the offline ones on or off. Does this make sense to anyone? I’m literally watching an offline bulb adjust but the on/off is unavailable and the bulb offline.

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Also, half the time online bulbs change on/off at least once when offline.

austere patio
floral plinth
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They are Sengled

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So non routers

austere patio
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I believe they have attribute reporting

#

So they should be sending back when they change state/color/brightness

#

If they still show as offline, that means that they aren't, so either reconfigure the device in ZHA so reporting is set up again, or reboot it

floral plinth
#

Trying to reconfigure one right now that won't turn off but adjusts color/brightness

floral plinth
austere patio
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If it fails to reconfigure, that means the bulb isn't responding to any direct requests, only group commands

#

Power cycle it

floral plinth
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Ok, will do. It just happens so frequently.

austere patio
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Any other stuck non-Sengled bulbs?

floral plinth
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No, I only have Sengled bulbs. They rolling stick though. It varies between 5-25 stuck. Sometimes they come back on their own in an hour or so other times they don't. It isn't any particular bulb from what I can tell.

austere patio
#

You have no other routers?

floral plinth
#

I have close to 60 routers

austere patio
#

Are any of them in a similar state?

floral plinth
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No, the routers always work

#

I have Sengled, Enbrighten, and a few of those ZBDongle-P with router firmware

#

Then of course like 30 Inovelli Blue's

#

I half wonder if its the inovelli's. Before I had only their zwave red and I don't recall having this many problems

#

Then I have a ZHA group that says online and when I turn it off it says its off but stays on

#

Physically

dire owl
#

Hey all, so I got my SkyConnect today....should I do migration from ConbeeII/ZHA...or should I wait?

austere patio
dire owl
#

one thing I noticed is that the ConbeeII has a max tx power of 10 mW while the Skyconnect is 20 dBm, which is 20 mW....so it should have more range if all else is the same

#

I think?

austere patio
#

No, range isn't dictated by transmit power

dire owl
#

ahh, being a mesh network, I guess range is not all important...but what advantage does a higher transmit power give?

austere patio
#

The device has to reply to your request and increasing the transmit power won't help with that

#

It'll (possibly?) help with group commands

dire owl
carmine hamlet
#

Like there is for mesh Wifi, is there conventional wisdom about reducing coordinator transmit power to improve reliability?

austere patio
#

Group commands aren't acknowledged, they're just re-transmitted by whatever device hears them

carmine hamlet
#

or do we just assume that devices will choose a better route if they have weak signal to the coordinator

austere patio
warm delta
#

Hi, does anyone know if there is any ESP like dev board that is zigbee compatible?

austere patio
warm delta
austere patio
#

I mean there are dev kits and such (including new ones by Espressif), but there's no ecosystem to make Zigbee easy to use

warm delta
austere patio
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Of course

warm delta
#

Is there any kind of documentation I can read to see how it works or something similar?

austere patio
#

No, that's what I meant by "no ecosystem to make Zigbee easy to use". You have to refer to the ZCL or to the chip manufacturer's SDK documentation.

#

It's not like an ESP32 where you write a server that talks over WiFi, you need to conform to the Zigbee Cluster Library to get anything useful to happen

warm delta
molten linden
#

they are typically based on the sdk of the chip manufacturer

#

there are some open source zigbee projects out there, and the Nordic SDK seems popular with them.

warm delta
#

perfect I am going to check nordic sdk thanks for the help

warm delta
#

if not i will search for them no worries

molten linden
warm delta
plush smelt
#

This might be a longshot but can a HA skyconnect be placed on a remote location connected to a raspberry pi or esp32 and be used as zigbee coordinator? Usb over tcp the HA server? Anybody done something similar?

molten linden
#

yes

#

how remote might be limiting due to latency though

floral plinth
#

Is polling something that should be enabled in ZHA settings? I was concerned it would flood the network

mellow geode
#

Ah, I see (the HA integration option). uh

floral plinth
#

The one under ZHA settings before you actually click on the integration

mellow geode
#

I think it's needed for sensor entities for plugs? Not sure though. Lights use their own polling

floral plinth
#

I am at my breaking point. About to sell all my sengled bulbs and just try another brand

mellow geode
#

Sensor entities that poll (like electrical measurement active_power) are polling every 30 seconds, as they use HA polling

mellow geode
#

and it shouldn't flood your network

#

What's the issue with your Sengleds? Do they drop out of the network?

floral plinth
#

Non-stop

#

Mind if I PM you?

#

Probably better than spamming the channel. In case you have an idea I can catch you up quick

sour shadow
#

Wyze v3 cameras will function without

floral plinth
mellow geode
#

i'll look at it as soon as I can. Just don't have the time to troubleshoot something at the moment

floral plinth
#

No worries. Whenever you have a moment I would appreciate the help. I'll sit down and debug everything with you when you have cycles.

molten linden
#

I can't use sengled bulbs, they don't stay on my network. I have spent days/weeks troubleshooting it with sniffs and best we could figure out is that it's some combination of devices. and I don't trust the fw on the bulbs either.

#

not sure if it will show for all radios, but are you seeing any NWK conflicts with the bulbs? this was something I experienced.

austere patio
floral plinth
#

Mine is like every 12 hours

#

I did get a 5 day stretch of perfection then they all fell offline

austere patio
#

How many do you have?

dire owl
austere patio
#

That'll work

peak jasper
#

I'm trying to do this right now, and having no luck

dire owl
peak jasper
#

Unplugging the old device as instructed changed the tty device name of the skyconnect, and it could not be found (I think)

#

It would just say "failed to connect"

austere patio
#

How are you running Home Assistant? The OS? On what hardware?

peak jasper
#

in a VM

#

HA OS in a VM

#

I made sure the USB was passed in from the host, and was visible in the HA OS cli

dire owl
#

ahh. I remember reading somewhere, that access to USB ports can get tricky in VMs

austere patio
#

What OS is the VM running inside?

peak jasper
#

Fedora Server 37

#

Since I don't have many zigbee devices, I decided to just remove ZHA and reboot. HA "discovered" my skyconnect, and I told it to set it up.

#

Now it says "failed to probe"

austere patio
#

Sounds like a communication issue to me

#

The discovery is based entirely off of the USB descriptors, it doesn't talk to the device until you confirm it

peak jasper
#

what communication?

austere patio
#

As in, the serial port isn't working, even though the USB device is showing up

peak jasper
#

Are the defaults right for the setup questions? radio, speed, flow control etc

austere patio
#

It's a common issue with VMs. I would make sure nothing on the host is trying to access the radio

austere patio
peak jasper
#

On Fedora Linux, using a libvirt VM, if you attach a device to a VM it is knot shown to host software

# 
Logger: homeassistant
Source: /usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/runner.py:100
First occurred: 3:35:10 PM (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 3:45:47 PM

Error doing job: Task exception was never retrieved
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/zigpy_znp/api.py", line 655, in ping_task
    return await self.request(c.SYS.Ping.Req())
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/zigpy_znp/api.py", line 991, in request
    self._uart.send(frame)
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'send'
# 
Logger: zigpy_deconz.api
Source: components/zha/radio_manager.py:171
First occurred: 3:35:12 PM (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 3:45:49 PM

No response to 'Command.read_parameter' command with seq id '0x02'
austere patio
#

That's ZHA trying to auto-detect the type of radio

#

It tries, in order, EZSP, ZNP, then deCONZ. Yours is the very first combination of settings attempted, which fails, so it moves on. This points to the serial port not functioning.

#

I would confirm that the radio is itself functional: on the host, install the zigpy tool (pip3 install git+https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-cli.git) and then talk to the radio with zigpy -vvv radio --baudrate 115200 ezsp /dev/serial/by-id/... info. You should get an error about no network being formed (or network settings printed).

peak jasper
#

ok I'll try that

#

There was a whole lot of output, and eventually a stack trace. What a code paste site?

austere patio
peak jasper
austere patio
#

Stick works fine: zigpy.exceptions.NetworkNotFormed:

#

So the issue is the VM passthrough

wet socket
#

Just FYI: I don't know how many people using SkyConnect here but the latest beta firmware v7.1.4.0 seems to be rock solid, at least for me. v7.1.1.0 was already good but v7.1.4.0 seems to be even better. None of my Aqara sensors (temp, door, motion) got disconnected for last 3 days and all the switches (Philips and Ikea) also working from the "first button press". Just in case, I am using ZHA.

dire owl
wet socket
#

no

peak jasper
#

I'll connect it back again. This time I'll shut down the VM first. Maybe that was necessary

wet socket
austere patio
wet socket
peak jasper
#

I still get "failed to probe the USB device" from ZHA

austere patio
#

ZHA uses exactly the same libraries as zigpy-cli

#

So if zigpy-cli can access the serial port but ZHA cannot, it's entirely something with the VM passthrough

peak jasper
#

I didn't have any problem with my HUBZ stick

austere patio
#

Are you running any addons that could be accessing the radio?

peak jasper
#

nope

wet socket
#

@austere patio i did sonoff zbdongle-e update using web ui (https://mygateway.ru/ZESP_multitool/#). it's going to be something similar for SkyConnect or going to be part of the ZHA? 🙂

austere patio
#

It's going to be similar to that web tool. I'd love to know how they did it, but their JavaScript is packed, intentionally obfuscated, and purposefully crashes when you open dev tools 😦

peak jasper
#

I ran the zigpy command in HA OS, and got the same output

#

oh, almost the same. it says NOT_JOINED instead of NOTFORMED

austere patio
#

What serial port are you connecting to from within ZHA? Have you tried restarting the VM?

peak jasper
#

it's ttyUSB0. what the by-id resolves to

#

I connected the device while the VM was shut down

#

Well I have no idea what to do next. This setup works fine with my HUBZ stick

ocean cloak
#

Does the FP1's temperature sensor basically never update for anyone else?

dire owl
#

Hmm just did the migration to Skyconnect ZHA ... And despite success messages, my zigbee devices are not responding. Been 30 minutes now.

#

Is it supposed to take some time?

dire owl
#

1 hr still not coming back.

mellow geode
#

Did you migrate from a Conbee?

dire owl
#

Yes ConbeeII!

mellow geode
#

It might not have been on the latest firmware, so ZHA couldn't grab all data. Can you try to power-cycle a mains-powered device on your network and see if that one starts reacting again?

dire owl
#

Sure I will do that

dire owl
#

Just unplugged a ikea outlet, giving it a few minutes...

#

You recommend a FW update if all else fails?

#

2023.2.3 should be coming out any minute now, I'm hoping the restart of HA will bring my network back.

#

Ikea outlet not back.

dire owl
#

ok, still down even after restart...there is log errors though:

# 
Source: components/zha/core/channels/base.py:486
Integration: Zigbee Home Automation (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 7:45:36 PM (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 7:45:39 PM

[0x16A7:1:0x0008]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]
[0x16A7:1:0x0006]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]```
#

not sure what that means.

mellow geode
# dire owl You recommend a FW update if all else fails?

If the Conbee firmware would have been somewhat recent before you migrated, it should have worked correctly. Now, it really doesn't matter (except if you try migrate back, upgrade firmware, and back to SkyConnect(?) but that might break more stuff, so not sure it's worth it)

#

Power-cycling the mains-powered devices should help though

#

Is that IKEA outlet you cycled near the SkyConnect?

#

Also, is the SkyConnect on the USB extension away from any interference (USB SSDs, APs, Routers, ...) ?

floral plinth
#

Anyone ever see max concurreny reached and queue up messages? I tried to rebuild my mesh by killing power for an hour and now its backed up by like 30 minutes

dire owl
dire owl
mellow geode
dire owl
#

Yikes, might have to do a full system backup recovery, and put the conbee back in

#

I didn't expect this type of failure, especially something done from the UI, so easy.

mellow geode
#

It’s been working really well for me. Not sure what causes the issue you’re having

dire owl
#

I wish I knew also.

#

Thanks for your help though

mellow geode
#

Although I doubt it helps, if you downloaded a Zigbee network backup before migrating, you could try to restore that again using the reconfigure button

dire owl
#

I will try that before I do a recovery.

mellow geode
#

Also, before restoring a HA backup, you could also try migrating back to the Conbee using the UI and see if that works

dire owl
#

by the way, the firmware I have on my conbeeII is 26780700

#

there was a warning about conbeeII migrations that I need to have a certain FW level, unfortunately, I clicked next too fast. Do I have the proper FW on my ConbeeII?

north pewter
short sandal
#

Don’t know, but what is binding in this context?

sour shadow
dusk parcel
#

Hi. After working like a charm for over 2 months, my SonOff Zigbee receiver keep loosing connection with the temperature sensors.

I tried to move the PC further away from the WiFi router, add a 1m USB cable to avoid interference with the PC but it keeps dropping.

Any clue?

sour shadow
#

How many Zigbee routers do you have?

north pewter
# short sandal Don’t know, but what is binding in this context?

binding as-in direct device-2-device communication. You can do that with e.g. an IKEA button and a IKEA light. They directly communicate with each other (=binding).

So far I couldn't find any relay that supports binding. I have a couple of wall-plugs that I can bind to my wall-switches, now I want a relay that I can bind to e.g. a button.

onyx wigeon
#

Hello, Trying to set up my first zigbee network here. Got a SkyConnect a few days ago along with some wall plugs.
But, I cant get the plugs into the network. Add Device gives me a page where it states that it is searching for zigbee devices, but never finds any.
I have the SkyConnect on the usb extension cable.
The wallplug is about 1.5m away from the SkyConnect.
The plug is a NEO Coolcam (PLUG-001SPB2) which I think is a re-branded Tuya device.
One thing I noticed, on this page https://github.com/NabuCasa/silabs-firmware they say this:
"All firmware use UART as communication interface with the following configuration:
Baudrate: 115200
Flow Control: Hardware"
But when I downloaded the diagnostics I saw that the SkyConnect seem to use software flow control:
"device": {
"path": "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Nabu_Casa_SkyConnect_v1.0_ca115e338942ed11bfcc47ab2a61ed69-if00-port0",
"baudrate": 115200,
"flow_control": "software"
}
I guess that should not be a problem since it looks like it is communicating ok with host system?
Should I suspect the wall plugs? Or is there anything else I can try before getting some other devices to try with?

onyx wigeon
wet socket
#

@onyx wigeon i have 8 those plugs in my network and they've connected to SkyConnect without any issue.

#

the button is flashing on the plug?

onyx wigeon
#

yep, holding it for some time and then its flashing. Then i try to include it

wet socket
#

radio_type is ezsp in the diagnostics?

#

should be: "radio_type": "ezsp"

onyx wigeon
#

yep

wet socket
#

what is your skyconnect firmware version? it should be in the same diagnostics file under "metadata" -> "ezsp"

onyx wigeon
#

"metadata": {
"ezsp": {
"manufacturer": "Nabu Casa",
"board": "SkyConnect v1.0",
"version": "7.1.1.0 build 273",
"stack_version": 9,
"can_write_custom_eui64": true
}
},

wet socket
#

this firmware is good as well...

#

sorry for stupid question... are sure those plugs are zigbee? because they have a same exact plug, but wifi.

#

try to pair something else.

onyx wigeon
#

it says so on the box at least 😉

wet socket
#

:)))

onyx wigeon
#

i dont have any other zigbee devices yet

#

IKEA plugs, known to work good? Can probably get one of those reasonably fast

wet socket
#

i had no problems to connect those tuya plugs to my network. very strange.

#

as you don't have a network yet, you can try to delete the ZHA integration and try to build a new network once again. see if it helps.

onyx wigeon
#

I opened up one plug just to be sure it is really zigbee 😄

#

There is indeed a zigbee z2 chip made by tuya

#

Also did a re-configure current radio under the migrate radio button. Created a new network that way. Did not help

#

Will try with delete and re-add the integration now

#

That did not help either 😭

#

On the add new device page, there is a button to show logs. I get no log at all. Should there not be atleast something like starting to listen for devices or something?

wet socket
#

you can enable the debug logging

#

press three dots on the integration and after that try to add the device...

#

after few seconds you can go and disable the logs, it will give you a log file...

onyx wigeon
#

also under settings/system/logs there is no sub category for zha, I was expecting there to be one

wet socket
onyx wigeon
wet socket
#

@onyx wigeon to be completely honest, i don't see anything wrong.

onyx wigeon
#

Can you see the wall plug announcing itself?

#

If not, hten maybe it is the plug after all

#

Im hoping for that

#

🤞

languid gale
#

Hi all, im trying to set-up 'sonoff zigbee usb dongle plus' on my windows machine (running HA on virtualbox). The usb dongle in device manager is currently showing under the ports section is this correct?

dire owl
#

Hello anybody know when the firmware update website for the skyconnect is going to come live? Thanks

rapid dawnBOT
#

@floral plinth I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
floral plinth
#

Anyone see that error before? Rebooted home assistant and zha is lagging to boot

#

Been 6 minutes and zha never came up

wet socket
#

@floral plinth try to unplug the zigbee dongle and plug it back... see if it helps.

stark turtle
#

hi, is anyone else having issues with the conbee2 stick on hass rpi4?

sour shadow
#

Is it on a USB extension cable?

stark turtle
#

everytime i connect it it is shown as a new device

#

no plugged directly in a usb2 port

sour shadow
#

Put it on an extension cable

stark turtle
#

huh ok ill try it out thanks

#

by the way the issue is that everytime i try to set it up, it fails with an error

floral plinth
stark turtle
#

even if i try to erase all the network settings (which is actually what i want to do)

sour shadow
#

What errror?

#

Also, you may need a powered USB hub if you've got multiple USB devices connected

wet socket
floral plinth
#

Now it says too much interference to form

#

Some of these zigbee devices must be going crazy transmitting

#

Energy scan has this channel at 0%

sour shadow
#

Interference ... that's probably because it's not on an extension cable

floral plinth
#

I’m in a 3’ usb cord

#

On*

stark turtle
floral plinth
#

Might be 6’

sour shadow
dire owl
#

Simply just writing those two lines of command?

wet socket
stark turtle
rapid dawnBOT
#

@stark turtle When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

stark turtle
hardy osprey
#

if i want to create a hack for ZHA, where do I start and how do i test it?

floral plinth
#

Is it possible my psu in my pi can’t handle the zbdongle-p?

#

Maybe that’s why my network sucks

strange ibex
#

is it at least 3A?

floral plinth
#

Yes. 3A exactly

#

But running a hub, ssd, and a weirdo zwave dongle

strange ibex
#

you probably want more than that then

floral plinth
#

Lol

wet socket
floral plinth
#

If that was my problem this whole@time I’ll be so mad

#

Just add a powered hub or what’s a good route?

strange ibex
#

what sort of hub? USB? Is it powered?

amber mirage
#

im going crazy. i have this on/off (two button) ikea tradfri. twice. it seems i have paired them with a philips hue color lightbulb. the switches and the lightbulb are in my zigbee network (the light bulb is a "router" and never gets turned off by the switch). for some reason i can switch off the bulb with both of these tradfris, i tried pressing the pairing button 4x, disconnected and connected it to the network again it still switches the lightbulb on and off. what am i missing here? Q_Q

strange ibex
#

I would get a better power source as well as a powered hub

wet socket
#

@hardy osprey you can run quirks (hack) locally.

amber mirage
#

and the most funny part: it does not show in homeassistant when i switch off the light wtf

floral plinth
strange ibex
#

@amber mirage look at your bind tab, you'll be in a group. leave it

#

Are you on z2m?

#

If so, I can show you. If not, I can't. 😛

amber mirage
#

AHhhh jesus

#

thatnks a lot busheee ❤️ ❤️

strange ibex
#

no problem, glad it was a quick fix for you

#

sometimes it gives people some trouble on leaving

amber mirage
#

that took me >3 hours

#

lol

strange ibex
#

try to read through the z2m pages of your devices, it will tell you weird things they do

floral plinth
#

Any recommendations on a powered hub and other psu for the pi4?

strange ibex
#

cannakit makes a 3.5A and there is a 4A one on amazon from someone else. canna is proven to be consistent.

#

powered hub, I would just go with anything that looks good on amazon 😛

hardy osprey
onyx wigeon
#

Borrowed a ConBee2 stick from work and tried that instead of the skyConnect. Worked straight away with the Tuya plug. Only conclusion I can make is that my skyConnect stick is broken 😭

dire owl
onyx wigeon
#

I'll try the fw upgrade thing as well before givingup on it

wet socket
#

guys fw v7.1.1.0 is stable enough.

#

if you already have this firmware, you can jump into beta if you want, but this is not your problem. well... in my opinion.

dire owl
wet socket
#

you will see the details in the metadata

#

something like this:
"metadata": {
"ezsp": {
"manufacturer": "Nabu Casa",
"board": "SkyConnect v1.0",
"version": "7.2.1.0 build 144",
"stack_version": 10,
"can_write_custom_eui64": true
}
},

#

second batch i think already coming with 7.1.1.0 pre-flashed. I got it as well.

dire owl
#

ah, thank you. I had to remove the SkyConnect from my system, and I didn't think about checking that. Ok, chances are I have the 7.1.1.0 on it like you mentioned. Once that flash websites comes online, it will also tell me if an update is avaible.

regal pumice
floral plinth
#

2023-02-08 13:06:53.236 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Request failed (Expected SRSP response AF.DataRequestExt.Rsp(Status=<Status.SUCCESS: 0>), got AF.DataRequestExt.Rsp(Status=<Status.BUFFER_FULL: 17>)), retry attempt 1 of 5

#

Literally can't get ZHA to start

#

So I kill all other zigbee traffic on my network. Like all switches and lights and it will come up

tropic depot
#

define kill

floral plinth
#

All power off to them

#

I honestly think my 159 zigbee devices are causing too much interference for the coordinator

#

So it might be power

thorn cobalt
#

Perhaps it's me but skyconnect is not that great is it?

regal pumice
#

What's the difference between the efr32 mgm21 and cc2652p2 coordinator from tube?

sour shadow
#

Are you using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?

regal pumice
#

I'm not sure yet

sour shadow
#

If you're planning on using ZHA both work fine

#

If you're planning on using Z2M then only use the CC2652 one

regal pumice
#

Good to know, What's the differences between ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT?

rapid dawnBOT
#

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

regal pumice
sour shadow
#

Do you want all your eggs in one basket (ZHA) or do you like separation (Z2M)

regal pumice
#

Probably separation, I'm a fan of redundancy 🤭

regal pumice
#

99 bucks cad for me, 71 usd for a coordinator cc2652.

grim igloo
#

if you need a PoE coordinator then that's what i'd buy/suggest

#

he's active here if you need help

regal pumice
#

Very cool

#

I like community hardware so I'm gonna give it a shot 😊

grim igloo
#

yolo

thorn cobalt
#

Where to find how many direct routers can be connected to a skyconnect dongle and how many childeren can be connected to the routers? Or the total devices that can be connected?

regal pumice
sour shadow
#

You can't flash custom firmware to those

wet socket
#

@regal pumice why you need to flash custom firmware on these?

#

it's working perfectly well with both EFR32 and CC2652* coordinators.

regal pumice
wet socket
#

except coordinators, i am not aware about any other community firmware for any zigbee device. maybe i missed something.

#

@regal pumice i guess you mixing up with sonoff wifi devices, where you can flash tasmota

#

but they are not compatible with zigbee.

gilded swallow
#

Has anyone here used the Leviton Decora Zigbee switches?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000U39QL6

I was pleasantly surprised to find them on Amazon just now. I just bought a house and all of the light switches are those old toggle style switches. I've been looking for what to replace them with and I like these because they match their non-smart switches. Which means you have have dumb and smart switches with the exact same styling and faceplates from the same brand.

regal pumice
#

I haven't tried them yet but I really like em for the same reason.

gilded swallow
#

I mean, they're a tad pricey...but not really much more than the Z-Wave options I see from GE/Enbrighten. So I think I might grab a couple and give them a shot. I was previously considering going with Lutron Caseta...but that requires more of an upfront investment.

#

.
Aright, I ordered just one. No reason to buy a couple, only need one to try it out. And then maybe I'll swing by Home Depot this week and grab an equivalent Leviton dumb switch to see how they compare visually.

molten cypress
#

hey,
I have the Aqara P1 motion sensor (integrated via Zigbee, no mqtt) and it's been working fine. The issue is that I cannot change anymore its "detection interval" nor the "LED trigger indicator". Both seem to be stuck at their value.

I tried changing set it via the entites State but after a bit they reset to their original value

Any idea how to change it?

misty oasis
#

anyone here has lidl 100358608 zigbee led panel? What is the output V and A of the driver?

gilded swallow
#

@molten cypress maybe there's a way to do it using the clusters attributes? I don't know if that's dangerous advice though so tread carefully.

#

I know when I was on SmartThings, there were times I had to write a custom device type to send custom zigbee commands for things like bulb transition times and stuff. So my impression is that's sort of what the "Manage Zigbee Device > Clusters > Commands" menu is for. But it's a drop down, so I guess you're limited to whats detected?

misty oasis
#

seems to 400V DC 37W so I guess not much luck in converting from zigbee to esphome
but the zigbee chip is probably not in the psu

sudden lintel
#

Got a presents sensor today...
Need to dial in the settings but it looks good for £20

grim igloo
sudden lintel
#

Oh ffs... That will teach me to read before posting what siri hears

#

I was gonna post a picture but I can't

grim igloo
#

Picture of what?

wet socket
#

bellows don't like fw v7.2.1.0 somewhere. 🙂

2023-02-08 22:17:18.389 ERROR (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart
2023-02-08 22:17:19.983 WARNING (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] Protocol version 10 is not supported, using version 9 instead
2023-02-08 22:17:20.207 INFO (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] EZSP Radio manufacturer: Nabu Casa
2023-02-08 22:17:20.208 INFO (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] EZSP Radio board name: SkyConnect v1.0
2023-02-08 22:17:20.208 INFO (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] EmberZNet version: 7.2.1.0 build 144
#

will enable the debug logs and will try to catch it.

molten linden
#

it should still run, it didn't look like there were any changes from 9 >10

austere patio
#

Yeah, it's just a bug with the SDK. They shouldn't've bumped the version from 9 to 10 but there's functionally no difference aside from the logged warning.

dire owl
molten linden
#

mean while I'm trying to wrap my old head around the firmware builder 🤔

dire owl
#

thank you!

#

@mellow geode @austere patio Good news! After updating my firmware on the SkyConnect the migration worked!!

#

awesome!

austere patio
#

That's surprising but I'm glad it did!

dire owl
#

yes I dont know why, but woo hoo!

#

allright, bring on matter/thread

#

it was on 7.1.1.0

#

and now im on 7.1.4.0

#

thanks @molten linden for sharing the update link 🙂

wet socket
#

@austere patio i am actually more concerned about NCP entered failed state message.

austere patio
#

Is this on startup?

wet socket
#

no, in the middle of nowhere

#

happened already twice

#

trying to catch it with debug logs now

austere patio
#

Interesting. Do you have any config tweaks or is this the default bellows config?

wet socket
#

all default except CONFIG_MAX_END_DEVICE_CHILDREN: 0

austere patio
#

Hmm, interesting

wet socket
#

but everything running stable

#

i will raise the issue with logs once i will catch it.

austere patio
#

Thanks!

wet socket
#

btw, in 7.2.1.0 they have changed CONFIG_MAC_FILTER_TABLE_SIZE default value from 2 to 15. don’t know if it’s related somehow.

pearl owl
#

how do you update the hue bulbs once you switch them off the HUB? im debating swapping all of mine over as a couple of them have connection problems

terse prairie
#

any tips for migrating to skconnect from another dongle? I tried the migration wizard but get a "failed to connect" error on the serial settings dialog

austere patio
terse prairie
#

Home assistant blue

#

OS

floral plinth
#

God I wish I could find good zwave bulbs

#

It’s about time to quit zigbee

terse prairie
#

Maybe I have a bad skyconnect device?

floral plinth
#

My network wouldn’t form all day due to RF and I just rebooted again and everything came back

#

This is wild

terse prairie
#

ok, updating worked in windows after I installed a driver

#

did not work on my mac

#

fw went from 7.1.1.0.273 to 7.1.4.0.389

#

we'll see if that helps?

austere patio
# terse prairie did not work on my mac

macOS also needs a driver, unfortunately. It also unfortunately presents you with two serial ports: one called SkyConnect, and the one that actually works.

terse prairie
#

Ah, fun

gentle hawk
#

I just did it on a Mac with no problem (after installing the driver)

terse prairie
#

Ok, lets try migrating one more time…

#

Still no dice

#

Maybe zwavejs is breaking things?

#

Success!

#

Was definitely zwavejs

#

Key was to ignore the migration instructions and not unplug the old device

#

When I unplugged the old device, the sky connect would bind to ttyUSB0, which zwave was trying to connect to

#

when I left the old device alone and just plugged in the skyconnect, it bound to ttyUSB2 and migration was successful

dire owl
#

Took me two tries, too. Never thought that my zwave usb could be interfering. I didn't take it out, I just updated the firmware and did the migration again and it just worked (the second time).

terse prairie
#

Hmm, maybe i spoke too soon. Still seems to be using the old radio

#

If I try migration again, it just says "Options successfully saved."

#

no option to change the coordinator MAC again

#

very odd

#

I downloaded a backup and compared it to what I had before. I see the new skyconnect in the ezsp section, but I still see the old stick's MAC under node_info as the coordinator

austere patio
#

The old stick's IEEE address should be in the backup if you migrated, as without this the migration would be incomplete and the network will start breaking

terse prairie
#

it is in both the old and new backups

# 
"node_info": {
        "nwk": "0000",
        "ieee": "ab:cd:ef:00:11:22:33:44",
        "logical_type": "coordinator"
    }
#

(not the actual ieee)

austere patio
#

What is "old" and "new" here? If you migrated, the two backups should be more or less identical (save for the stuff in stack_specific)

terse prairie
#

I downloaded a backup before migrating, and then again after

austere patio
#

Right. The IEEE address should be the same then.

terse prairie
#

ok

austere patio
#

What did you migrate from? A Conbee?

terse prairie
#

then... everything looks right, but it's not working 😉

#

HUSBZB

austere patio
#

Is the old stick still plugged in?

terse prairie
#

currently, no

austere patio
#

Are you able to receive sensor updates with the SkyConnect?

terse prairie
#

(though I plan to put it back, as I use it for zwave)

terse prairie
#

events show in the log book, but the device(s) do nothing

austere patio
#

If ZHA has been running for a while (like an hour), can you download diagnostics for the ZHA integration and either upload the whole thing somewhere, or post the value of the PHY_CCA_FAIL_COUNT counter?

terse prairie
# 
            "__type": "<class 'zigpy.state.Counter'>",
            "repr": "Counter(name='PHY_CCA_FAIL_COUNT', _raw_value=0, reset_count=0, _last_reset_value=0)"
          },```
austere patio
#

How long has ZHA been running for?

#

And are you running multi-PAN or just the normal Zigbee firmware?

terse prairie
#

normal fw

#

not sure RE how long ZHA has been up for; I have rebooted and reloaded several times trying to get things working

# 
                "manufacturer": "Nabu Casa",
                "board": "SkyConnect v1.0",
                "version": "7.1.4.0 build 389",
                "stack_version": 9,
                "can_write_custom_eui64": false
            }
austere patio
#

Try controlling a few more lights/outlets and then read the value of that counter out once more. Is it still 0?

upper delta
#

What steps should I take to correct a motion sensor that won't connect to my Zigbee network anymore? All other devices with similar link quality are connecting. This device used to be connected for a long time. I've updated like everything. I deleted the device and re-added it. Discovery works fine.

#

When I say it won't connect, I mean it's not showing a route to a switch

austere patio
#

Does it work?

upper delta
#

It doesn't seem to be showing motino sense

#

But I suppose what you're saying is that if I can read link quality and get discovery, then I should also see motion status on the device

#

"occupancy" is NA whereas all other settings have values.

terse prairie
austere patio
#

Can you PM me a backup from before the migration and one from after?

terse prairie
#

sure

neat crescent
#

@sour shadow I got my Aqara E1 Door Sensor in the mail today. I am trying to get it to connect to my Sky Connect Zigbee stick in home assistant but it is not showing up in Home Assistant. I got the Sonoff sensor to connect no problem. What is the trick to getting the Aqara sensor to connect? I've held down on the button for three seconds and nothing except the blue light blinks.

terse prairie
#

Update for anyone following along: I have both the Sky Connect (for zigbee) and the HUSBZB (for zwave) working together finally

#

the key was to change the config in the zwavejs add on to connect to ttyUSB1 instead of ttyUSB0, as apparently the sky connect now always binds to ttyUSB0 on startup

#

(seems like bad design that zwave hardcodes the dev path, but 🤷‍♂️ )

austere patio
#

Oh, you should definitely update those paths to use /dev/serial/by-id/... symlinks

terse prairie
#

can I with zwavejs?

austere patio
#

I believe Z-Wave JS runs in an addon or a Docker container, depending on how you're running HA. Both should have access to unique serial port paths.

dire owl
terse prairie
#

probably, especially so since I'm still using it for zwave

dire owl
#

but glad its sorted

terse prairie
#

likely a pretty common issue though, since many have the combo sticks

dire owl
#

I'm sure many people have that stick and will run into the same

terse prairie
#

It didn't auto populate, but I manually put in my /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_C1234567-if00-port0 symlink into the zwavejs serial port field and saved

#

seems like it works

#

might save some future headaches 🙂

austere patio
#

Are you running Z-Wave JS as an addon? Or as a Docker container?

terse prairie
#

addon

austere patio
#

Interesting, I didn't know it let you pick non-unique serial port paths like that

terse prairie
#

the pulldown just shows /dev/ttyS1, /dev/ttyUSB0, etc

#

but you can type in whatever you want

dire owl
#

i just checked my hardware profile and my zwave stick is on ttyUSB0 and skyconnect on ttyUSB1

#

I have not restarted my HA since successfully installing the skyconnect

terse prairie
#

mine probably changed because I put the sky connect on the physical USB port that my zwave stick was connected to before

#

but still.. ZHA seems to already not care what /dev the device connected to. But zwave did. So change your zwave path to the by-id symlink to avoid any future issues 😉

dire owl
#

wait, I think it already...let me post a photo

#

any way to share a photo without signing up?

#

anyways the path for both start as /dev/serial/by-id/usb-XXX

#

just noticed if you go to Hardware you'll see the SkyConnect listed and can enable multi-pan from there

neat crescent
dire owl
neat crescent
#

You know I probably spoke too soon…

#

I got it to connect but then the door sensor state is stuck on closed.

#

I’ve deleted the sensor from HA and now I’m trying to reconnect (discover) it again in HA.

#

I bought the Aqara and Sonoff to compare. If the Aqara would actually work, I would maybe like it more because it has a temp sensor. But if it won’t work, I might be sticking with the sonoff.

#

Now it is working properly. For some reason it was not working the first time it was discovered.

dire owl
#

The temp sensor is a device temperature sensor. I just noticed in the sun, they can get hot like 52oC

neat crescent
#

Interesting. So not really valuable data.

dire owl
#

All else the same, I'm noticing that all my RSSI values have improved by 10 to 20 dB since switching from my ConbeeII

#

This is actually quite good.

neat crescent
#

Was the ConbeeII plugged into a USB extension cable like the Sky Connect is?

dire owl
#

Yes, 2 meters. All I did was take out the conbee and put in the skyconnect (using same cable the conbee was plug)

#

My furthest device, a lux sensor, typically in low 80 to high 70, now in the 60s!

neat crescent
#

I'm glad to here you're having good results with the Sky Connect. I just connected mine on Sunday for the first time and then bought these two door sensors to test. What is the furthest device from your Sky Connect device?

dire owl
#

Maybe 40 to 45 feet

#

Through a floor

#

Not line of site

neat crescent
#

Okay. This is my first time to explorer zigbee. I'm having a good experience so far. I need to some devices off the wifi network to improve reliability. My wifi devices will randomly go "unavailable" and then reconnect a few seconds later. Not sure what the reason is for that.

dire owl
#

And the door sensor you have, I have one in the same room as the skyconnect about 10 ft line of site, and it's - 39 dB

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Yes, definite improvements in signal strength. Nice!

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Wifi is different but I'm curious to know how beaming the skyconnect is, that if I will experience wifi issues... Hmmm

neat crescent
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Do you think its safe to assume that if you have to many wifi IoT devices on one network that it would cause the IoT wifi devices to intermittently go unavailable?

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For clarification, the wifi issues I was experiencing was prior to having my sky connect.

dire owl
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Well, zigbee and WiFi are known to interfere with each other so yes. But if you had issues before then maybe a good router would help. Most routers can handle 30 to 50 devices. Anything more, look into a better router. Next is signal strength, installing access points in more than one location would help

neat crescent
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Good info. I will probably buy some APs to add to the house to help.

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Zigbee and WiFi are both 2.4GHz so that makes sense that they would interfere a little at the least.

dire owl
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I don't have mesh wifi, this is different than APs

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But that is another option

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Yes, and sometimes channel changing improves zigbee and WiFi issues.

neat crescent
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So certain Zigbee devices act as a zigbee router to build a zigbee mesh, right?

dire owl
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MOST Mains powered one, yes.

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Typically battery powered devices do not

neat crescent
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okay. cool

sour shadow
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@neat crescent I simply followed the instructions... but then I have a CC2652 based coordinator. Maybe the firmware on the SkyConnect doesn't like them shrug

round grotto
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Hello together, I had my conbee stick working for years now with deconz, but integration of ikea fyrtur blinds was a mess. So i deleted my deconz integration and all entities for a fresh start. Installed ZHA and added nearly all devices newly to HA. But now after a restart of HA i get the following error messages Error setting up entry ConBee II, s/n: DE1963250 - dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik GmbH for zha 10:59:02 – (FEHLER) components/zha/core/gateway.py Couldn't start deCONZ = dresden elektronik deCONZ protocol: ConBee I/II, RaspBee I/II coordinator (attempt 1 of 3) 10:59:02 – (WARNUNG) Zigbee Home Automation - Die Nachricht ist zum ersten Mal am 10:58:52 aufgetreten und erscheint 3 mal No response to 'Command.read_parameter' command with seq id '0x22' 10:59:02 – (WARNUNG) components/zha/core/gateway.py - Die Nachricht ist zum ersten Mal am 10:58:52 aufgetreten und erscheint 3 mal

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Any Ideas?

sour shadow
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Did you also stop the deCONZ add-on (or however you run it)?

round grotto
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THANK YOU 😄

patent mason
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Hi! I've ordered a
SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle-P (based on CC2652P)
Instead I've received:
ZBDongle-E (based on EFR32MG21)
that is reported as experimental in zigbee2mqtt.
zha reports:

EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis
by ZHA ```
sour shadow
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If you were planning on using ZHA you're fine

patent mason
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I plan to use z2m in the long term. for now I wanted just to test if it worked

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[426246.530975] usb 3-4: new full-speed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd
[426246.688883] usb 3-4: New USB device found, idVendor=1a86, idProduct=55d4, bcdDevice= 4.42
[426246.688897] usb 3-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[426246.688902] usb 3-4: Product: SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2
[426246.688905] usb 3-4: Manufacturer: ITEAD
[426246.688908] usb 3-4: SerialNumber: 20220810145700
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this is the dmesg output

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it does not tell much about the chip.

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my question is.. in the real world how does this dongle works with z2m?

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also how can I make sure I've got the wrong version?

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is the information reported by zha reliable?

sour shadow
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You have the wrong version

patent mason
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I'm angry because the item was falsely advertised as having the TI chip and it was considerably more expensive than the one I've received sold by other vendors

sour shadow
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It works, somewhat... if you search you'll find that results are mixed. Some people are fine, many aren't

round grotto
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I have nearly all devices working now in ZHA, but some are making trouble. Especially newer IKEA ones like new lightbulbs and new Switches (styrbar). Older ones work fine, any idea?

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I can add them all fine but they don't react

pure prism
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Anyone seen a hue thief addon?

glossy narwhal
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Just installed a couple of Aqara door sensors with ZHA/Skyconnect. They both paired immediately when close, but now they are installed both are showing as isolated in the network display. One of them is only a couple of meters away with line of sight to the coordinator. Any suggestions? I have an Aqara temp sensor much further away that works fine.

sour shadow
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They both paired immediately when close, but now they are installed
Did you move them after pairing?

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Because... you don't do that

glossy narwhal
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Oh...

sour shadow
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(or, more accurately, if you do that you can expect problems)

glossy narwhal
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So, pair again in situ?

sour shadow
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  1. Always pair in the final location
  2. Always pair Xiaomi devices through a specific router
glossy narwhal
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Thanks. Maybe I got lucky with the temp sensor.

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<reads> they are ZigBee 3 devices afaik

sour shadow
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They're E1/T1/P1?

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The MCCGQ11LM ones aren't Zigbee 3.0

glossy narwhal
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Yes E1. Maybe as an experiment I'll just wait a while and see if they can sorry themselves out.

sour shadow
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Then they should sort themselves out, though you can speed it up by pushing the pair/wake button

glossy narwhal
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*sort

spring steppe
oblique reef
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Hi, just tried to update/check firmware via skyconnect.home-assistant.io. When trying to connect it keeps saying Connecting. I found this in the devtools console:

    at WailParser._addFunctionSection (wail.min.js:1:41019)
    at WailParser._readSection (wail.min.js:1:29890)
    at WailParser.parse (wail.min.js:1:13823)
    at instrumentBinary (init.js:674:10)

is this a known problem? where should I report it?

grizzled kettle
mellow geode
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and should be up-to-date if you refresh it after a few minutes (depending on network size)

glossy narwhal
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Oh, that's useful info, thanks

oblique reef
quartz prawn
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got my skyconnect and moving from z2m to zha which is going fine, but annoyingly zha groups are entities, not devices, like z2m. Meaning I have to rework my automations quite a bit. Anyone know why the difference between the two?

sour shadow
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Totally different pieces of software written by different people?

mellow geode
quartz prawn
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I'm guessing z2m just took the easy route and treated everything as a device, which does make it easier to use, but doesn't maintain the standards for a device as noted by Frenck in the issue. Thanks, I think that answers my question.

cinder pewter
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hello. is there a way to debug connection issues with zha? i have a sonoff usb stick, some devices of the same model have strange issues. one of them can keep a connection, but the other can't. the one that can't is only 3M away from the one that connects just fine. both devices are plug-in and HA says they're routers... so how come there's no routing between them?

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I also have a zbmini-l that works fine when near the stick, but not when near these devices i mention (which are routers, so they should be able to route to the zbmini?) for example, i was able to adopt the zbmini, but no entities appeared, until i added it within LOS of the USB stick

wet socket
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@austere patio i am not able to reproduce "NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart" with v7.2.1.0 again. Running with debug logging on since yesterday evening. already collected more then 1.2GB of logs... still no luck.

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i will give it a few more hours and will disable it.

quartz prawn
wet socket
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ah i see, sorry i've missed the device point... i moved from z2m to zha as well... but in my case i am using services with entities, so rename was enough.

fiery cave
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Hi all. Yesterday I enabled Multiprotocol on the Skyconnect. Today I rebooted the host and now ZHA is not starting anymore. Anyone who had the same issue?

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I now tried to flash the stick back to zigbee firmware, but that does not seem to work either.

austere patio
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The addon sometimes takes a few seconds too long to start. Is ZHA still trying to reload, or has it given up?

fiery cave
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It has given up

austere patio
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Have you physically unplugged the SkyConnect yet?

fiery cave
fiery cave
austere patio
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Try unplugging it and then plugging it back in. After 10s, the addon should start running, and then ZHA can be reloaded

fiery cave
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I removed the add-on already. Should I re-enable the SkyConnect so that it support Multiprotocol again?

austere patio
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You can either re-install the multi-protocol addon and let it start back up (I think the reboot may have caused the SkyConnect to "crash"), after which ZHA can be re-enabled

fiery cave
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Okay. Let me try.

austere patio
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Or re-flash it back to Zigbee firmware and re-configure ZHA to connect to the SkyConnect's physical serial port, instead of the addon. You can use https://skyconnect.home-assistant.io/ for the re-flashing, scroll to the bottom.

fiery cave
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Okay, I re-enabled the add-on. It is running without any errors. still gives the same message as above screenshot

austere patio
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Can you grab a screenshot of the addon's Log tab?

fiery cave
austere patio
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Looks like it's running. When you reload the ZHA Integration, it still fails to set up?

fiery cave
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Yes. Just a wild thought. I use ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT. ZHA is connected to the SkyConnect and Zigbee2MQTT is connected to a SOnoff Dongle-E that also has the Silicon labs chip. Might it be that they are in each other's way?

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They ran perfectly fine together for weeks by the way.

austere patio
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I don't think so, not unless you're using Docker and pass through the serial ports with non-unique paths (i.e. /dev/ttyUSB0:/dev/ttyUSB0 instead of /dev/serial/by-id/port-unique-id:/dev/ttySkyConnect)

fiery cave
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I can try to flash it back to the zigbee firmware and see what happens.

fiery cave
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Okay. Flashing it to Zigbee fixed the issue!

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Thank you for your support!

austere patio
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No worries. If you try the multi-PAN firmware again and it manages to break, let me know what steps you took to get that to happen. It crashing isn't a great experience 😅

fiery cave
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I will. Luckily not my whole house runs on the SkyConnect yet. Only my studio so no issues with my gf yet. 😉

thorn cobalt
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Will this work on a skyconnect running zha
skyconnect: 40 hue lights - 25 hue lights = 15
hue light 1: + 20 devices(mixed power and battery powered)
hue light 2: + 20 devices(mixed power and battery powered)
hue light 3: + 20 devices(mixed power and battery powered)
Innr plug 4: + 20 devices(mixed power and battery powered)
etc..
Total devices = approx 200
and bunch of groups
Is skyconnect capable of having a lot of devices connected or would it struggle?

wet socket
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I am running 103 devices with skyconnect right now.

thorn cobalt
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directly connected?

heavy helm
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hi there, Zigbee2MQTT newbie here.

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I added my Moes Tuya TS0601 TRVs to Zigbee2MQTT but I have no clue which text /format I need put in the programming_mode section. I tried "06:01/20°C 12:02/16°C 13:08/15°C 13:09/16°C 17:31/21°C 22:02/15°C", but this is seemingly not the proper format...

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BTW: HA and add-ons are updated, only moes Tuya TS0601 TRV have version 85 an can be updated to 87.

wet socket
terse prairie
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Is there an easy way to change the zibgee channel of a network?

austere patio
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If you're already doing this, you may as well run an energy scan (https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-cli#performing-an-energy-scan) to find what the Zigbee stick thinks is a decent channel (which may not correspond to what a WiFi analyzer shows!)

I think you're using a SkyConnect? If so, replace znp with --baudrate 115200 ezsp in those commands.

terse prairie
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is there a way to do this from home assistant os?

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I tried via ssh, but zigpy didn't want to install

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could try from one of the containers I guess?

austere patio
rapid dawnBOT
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@terse prairie I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
terse prairie
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seems like channel 20 is the way to go

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(or... 16? but doesn't 16 overlap with wifi?)