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sour shadow
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Aye, my Innr plugs are rock solid

molten linden
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but not on same tier as hue

clever cedar
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Now I have some homework to do :3

rapid dawnBOT
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@clever cedar When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

grim igloo
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This is for resell?

sour shadow
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Develco's "mini" sensor is awesome, and not very mini

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Linkind do good motion and leak sensors

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Xiaomi do many things cheaply... just buy their Zigbee 3.0 stuff (E1/T1/P1)

grim igloo
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Tinkerer why does reply matter if you’re already in the same channel? I don’t get a notification if that happens to me

sour shadow
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What makes you think I'm only in this channel?

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What makes you think I'm not flipping to something else?

grim igloo
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I mean this channel actively on your screen

sour shadow
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What makes you ||look here||

grim igloo
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pretends he didn’t click it

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My answer to that would be adhd and genuine curious nature

clever cedar
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Thank you for the tips!

grim igloo
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Just the tips?!

clever cedar
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I have already thanked for all the rest 😛

grim igloo
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it was a crude joke lol

clever cedar
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Sorry, English is not my main language lol

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actually, I still don't know how do you manage to understand me

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well.. it's a nerdy/geeky group full of smart guys so... probably is that

grim igloo
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lots of practice talking to helpdesk moved to other countries

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and ISPs refusing to hire anyone with an iq higher than their pulse

elfin cypress
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Trying to decide whether to use ZHA or Zigbee2mqtt... I hate the faff but am reading that for ex. Ikea light switches have limited functionality in ZHA. Can anyone enlighten me? I'm finding it hard to determine which would work better

grim igloo
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there really isnt any limited functionality for any devices between zha or z2m

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some new devices might not have full support on either option but z2m will let it pair regardless. zha will need a quirk to pair properly i think?

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that isnt really why you should pick between the two tho

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i originally chose z2m based on others recommendations here and on reddit / forums

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a lot of information is out of date and or wrong especially with zha. puddly and co have put a lot of work into it simplifying use for end users in a lot of ways

elfin cypress
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Yeah I was thinking a lot of what you read is probably outdated since it's in active development

austere patio
sour shadow
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TBH the main choice comes down to whether you want something that's part of HA, or separate

grim igloo
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thanks for the correction

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i thought i remembered atx saying z2m would let anything pair just didnt mean it would function

elfin cypress
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What would be the benefit of NOT having it be part of HA? lol

sour shadow
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You like separation?

grim igloo
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well i think zigbee groups being able to be setup in a ui and a ui to be able to control things with z2m is a pretty big selling point

sour shadow
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You use software other than just HA?

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Z2M has a slick UI too 😉

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Also, it's easy to add your own device support

elfin cypress
grim igloo
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dmulcahey said he was working on a ui for zha but it's been a while and i havent seen it

sour shadow
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I love being able to upgrade or downgrade Z2M separately from HA

glossy yoke
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Which would your suggest if I am on the Rasp Pi..? the skyconnect for zha or sonoff p dongle for z2m

elfin cypress
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What else could I control zigbee devices with that offers me something beyond what HA can do? This is all news to me

grim igloo
glossy yoke
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ok

sour shadow
grim igloo
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i'd watch videos on usage of each on youtube then make a choice based on that

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whichever you think looks like something you want to control your mesh with is what i'd pick

glossy yoke
mellow geode
elfin cypress
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So basically just HA alternatives. Gotcha. Seperation sounds like more faff 😃

grim igloo
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am i missing something?

sour shadow
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Eh, I had an upgrade recently that broke an existing device, being able to roll back just my Zigbee stack was rather nice

mellow geode
clever cedar
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speaking on zigbee coordinators, have anyone tried the SMLIGHT SLZB-06 ?

grim igloo
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can you link me to what that looks like?

mellow geode
grim igloo
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and as far as "device" pages in z2m - there is nothing similar in zha just basic device pages in home assistant from devices added correct?

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that feels limited comparatively

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i have an old pi4 i can get another dongle and play

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just so i have some better info to share with people

mellow geode
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There's another "Manage Zigbee Device" dialog where you can dig into everything. Do bindings, read all cluster attributes using a UI, send commands using the UI (Z2M can only do that via text), ...

grim igloo
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as far as support goes- being able to come in here and get zha support from top to bottom is by far the winner compared to z2m

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if there isnt a tutorial or docs or someone here that knows that shit, you're SOL with z2m sans opening a github issue

sour shadow
grim igloo
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cant fail if you dont try

mighty river
mellow geode
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Yes. Only via text though

mighty river
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yes, packets happen to be text, not images :D

grim igloo
mellow geode
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Don't get me wrong, the dev console (and related) is great, but you still have to search for all possible command arguments in ZCL/docs and so on

grim igloo
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it's also hard for me to suggest zha to people when i'm unable to give even basic troubleshooting help due to my lack of knowledge, admittedly

austere patio
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You can always just install both (one at a time!) and try them 🤷‍♂️

grim igloo
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yeah it's on the menu

austere patio
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And if you run Z2M, ZHA will use those same network settings so both can be run concurrently as long as you stop the Z2M addon or disable ZHA. It'll just re-configure attribute reporting when devices are discovered at runtime.

grim igloo
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i've been wanting to play with thread and i have a couple homepod minis so maybe skyconnect is a decent option to buy and play with

elfin cypress
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"Serial Device Path - List of detected serial ports on the system. You need to pick one to which your radio is connected" - I'm not getting a list, just a text field...

grim igloo
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as long as i have an nvm backup i can go full retard too right? always able to jump back with hass and nvm backups

midnight sail
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Can anyone point me to a legend for the ZHA map? im unsure what the grey paths indicate

mellow geode
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low LQI, but it doesn't matter if the devices work

midnight sail
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The devices fall off

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Eventually

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So grey is worse then red?

crimson spoke
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Hello I'm using ZHA and i paired an Ikea outlet and everything works fine but i was wondering what are these configuration line ? Like i have On level ( 0 to 255 ), On/Off Transition, Start-up behavior and start up current level

mellow geode
mellow geode
crimson spoke
clever cedar
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Have anyone tried the Zigbee coordinator SMLIGHT SLZB-06 ?

strange ibex
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it's on there

hardy zephyr
midnight sail
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Is it possible to pull the LQI into a card? I do see it as a value in the device

clever cedar
hardy zephyr
grim igloo
clever cedar
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just thought maybe the antenna could improve "something"

clever cedar
hardy zephyr
clever cedar
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I'm planning on getting one of these because now i have my dongle plugged to a raspberry pi 1 B, a wifi card using ser2net 😛 kinda bulky and inconvenient

grim igloo
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that pi deserves to be in a museum

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you could 3d print a cute lil coffin for it

clever cedar
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It served me very well... still do 😛

grim igloo
clever cedar
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long live RBPi 1

grim igloo
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let him rest -.-

clever cedar
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vintage is back

glossy yoke
grim igloo
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If you don’t have the conbee on a usb extender away from the pi that’s probably your problem

wet socket
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@mellow geode thanks a lot for your comment! 🙂

glossy yoke
amber gull
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SNZB-02D -- Works OOTB

strange ibex
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what about in the box

amber gull
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5S hold pair

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double click button to check temp units

carmine hamlet
amber gull
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cc @violet dagger - Confirmed working with ZHA

molten linden
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Walt!

amber gull
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👋 Tube!

strange ibex
desert oak
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Hi everyone I'm new to homeassistant and got a pi4, a sonoff zigbee usb stick and just got an aqara motion sensor (not the P1) and i've paired it with the zigbee integration in ha but the values it gives are completly wrong and just doesn't work

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has anyone had issues like this?

strange ibex
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Show us what you see

desert oak
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i would but it doesnt let me send images

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can i msg u private?

rapid dawnBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

desert oak
sour shadow
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The built in light sensor on the Aqara motion sensors isn't very sensitive

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(and only updates when it detects motion)

desert oak
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that's ok I don't really care about the light sensor

sour shadow
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So... what values are completely wrong?

desert oak
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but i'd hope it would work as a motion sensor which it doesn't

desert oak
sour shadow
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That's the internal temperature

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It's also not that accurate

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(it's measuring the temperature of the circuit board, ish, you can expect it to be warmer than the room)

desert oak
rapid dawnBOT
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@desert oak When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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If you want a temperature sensor, buy one

strange ibex
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it's very bad at temperature and light sensing. the motion sensing has a 60 second timeout

desert oak
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I did not buy this as a temperature sensor, I want it to be a motion sensor which I cant get it to do

sour shadow
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Mine reports about 6C higher than the room temperature

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Is your sensor directly connected to the coordinator, or paired via a (Zigbee) router?

desert oak
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just a sonoff zigbee stick

sour shadow
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How far apart are they?

desert oak
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there is just a wall in between

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I've tried repairing and works fine

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i mean the pairing works fine, not the actual motion detection

strange ibex
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in what way does motion detect not work as I see it cleared in your screenshot

raven jewel
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Did you try replacing the battery?

strange ibex
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^ I am going to go with that since it already says 84%

desert oak
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its new

strange ibex
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(battery % is also very inaccurate and funny things happen with low batteries)

raven jewel
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The battery level reported is... never quite right

raven jewel
desert oak
strange ibex
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it has a 60 second timeout, make sure you don't do anything for 60 seconds

desert oak
raven jewel
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Try pressing the pairing button a few times?

desert oak
raven jewel
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Is that based on the info from ZHA?

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Because that sensor can and does mis-report

desert oak
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just measured with a decent multimeter

strange ibex
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have you tried retriggering it to see if it goes through detected > clear after the repair?

desert oak
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yes it doesnt do anything

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it gets triggered as soon as you pair it and then nothing

raven jewel
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If you remove the battery and wait a while, does it become unavailable?

desert oak
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i think i see where you are going with this... I only have one sensor

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one zigbee device for that matter

desert oak
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paired it. When i get the battery out nothing changes, I dont see anywhere that the device is unavialiabe.

sour shadow
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It'll take hours before that changes

desert oak
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i have waited for a while

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also "identify" doesn't work

sour shadow
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A while?

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More than 24 hours?

desert oak
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really?

sour shadow
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Battery devices don't check in often, many only report in every 3 hours

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If the timeout is less than that you'll see devices being marked as unavailable when they're not

desert oak
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ok i will leave it with the battery out overnight

raven jewel
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Sounds like zigbee binding to me

grim igloo
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This keeps popping up and common denominator is ikea devices

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Wonder if there’s some bug affecting these people

mellow geode
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Is it an EU Aqara plug?

strange ibex
wet socket
crystal mulch
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Anyone have a Neo NAS-AB02B0 working in ZHA fully? I'm trying to get this siren setup on my new yellow and no actions work and I'm not seeing all the entities.

wet socket
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@copper reef you need to downgrade your aqara eu plug to older firmware v32

tiny timber
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Alright, so today's the day I try to fix my flakey Zigbee connectivity for SML001 and YRD256. Should I a) Try migrate radios back to the Conbee II from the SkyConnect but stick to ZHA or b) Start fresh with the SkyConnect on Z2M?

strange ibex
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if you upgrade your ikea shortcut button it will not be bound to a group by default

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you can also just leave the group with the button if you wanted to stay

mellow geode
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The issue is that newer Aqara firmware is buggy and always listen to commands that are sent to group 0.
Older IKEA buttons can only bind to a group (bind to group 0 by default).
Newer ones do not support group binding at all, but only support device binding. So you could try upgrading your IKEA button too. (It's still Aqara's fault for always listening to group 0 though)

strange ibex
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go to your binding tab and leave the group

grim igloo
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Like is this a non issue to people buying new aqara stuff as long as they don’t have ikea devices with this group 0 binding set in fw?

mellow geode
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Quite a few Aqara devices are doing this I think. Both EU plugs can be downgraded to properly working firmware though.
Not sure if it only affects IKEA devices. I think they do it because group 0 is some default Light Link group but I’m not certain that’s correct

glossy marten
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If someone in my family turns off a smart light with zigbee does that destroy the mesh or something?

sour shadow
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It's not going to help, no

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(Unless that's a Sengled bulb)

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The actual impact depends on what routes through that bulb, and whether they can re-route around it

glossy marten
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lets say someone did that 😅 what is the smart thing to do?

sour shadow
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Don't put smart bulbs on dumb switches, or any switch really

glossy marten
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well, they are built into the house

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so what should i do to restore the mesh or something

sour shadow
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Power it back on

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Then check and see if everything else is still working

glossy marten
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ok

strange ibex
glossy marten
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or

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tape

strange ibex
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we can not be friends. /s

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my mom says I have to go

hexed blaze
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Does anyone use tuya trv with zigbee2mqtt?

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Trv is reporting local temperature as double that of actual temperature

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Current temperature in the room is 15, but it's reporting 30
This has caused for the trv to never open

tiny timber
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What do people think for fixing flakey connectivity for a few devices on a SkyConnect in ZHA that didn't exist on the Conbee II? Go back to the Conbee II, or port over to Z2M?

carmine hamlet
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if you're concerned about mesh stability, I don't recommend using SkyConnect with Z2M

jagged estuary
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Hi, my IKEA Tradfri shortcut buttons seem to have an update, but when I try, it says the device didn't respond to the OTA request. What can I do about that?

hollow chasm
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Press the shortcut button immediately before you try to OTA update it

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Battery devices go to sleep and won't respond to things like OTA updates unless you wake them up

tiny timber
barren narwhal
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I’ve been looking at aqara water leak sensors but they are zigbee and I only have a zwave hub.

Are people mixing zwave and zigbee devices with HA?Or better to just stick to one?

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assuming it’s fine to mix and match, is there a recommended zigbee controller for HA?

carmine hamlet
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There's a pinned message for that oft-asked question

fleet raptor
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I tried this text in the configuration file to give the main instance zigbee control but I get authentication errors. I think I have to put this where the instance itself is configured. Where does Remote Homeassistant put the files related to a connection in the docker version of HA? ```remote_homeassistant:
instances:

  • host: 10.0.0.2
    load_components:
    • zigbee```
grizzled kettle
carmine hamlet
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and they're tiny

fleet raptor
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Does anyone know where remote homeassistant stores its files in the docker version of homeassistant?

barren narwhal
grizzled kettle
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their water shutoff valve

barren narwhal
grim igloo
barren narwhal
grim igloo
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They have Black Friday etc sales when stuff is marked down quite a bit

tiny timber
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Wow, migrating radio from SkyConnect to Conbee II was way more seamless than I expected. Every end device came across without needing to re-pair - even the Aqara stuff.

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Re-paired the devices that were being a problem on SkyConnect (SML001 and YRD256) and they all seem to be working fine (for now).

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At least the lock state is properly reporting for the YRD256 now where it wasn't at all with the SkyConnect.

desert oak
# glossy marten or

Or do what I did and disconnect the switch from the light and have the light on permanently and from the power wires you can also power a wifi/zigbee smart switch like a sonoff one and you can connect the existing switch to that sonoff smart switch. Then what you do is just create an automation for where if the sonoff changes it’s state, the bulbs do the same. This makes sense if you want to preserve all the original switches in your home. If you have multiple switches that power the same light, it’s not as straight forward but you can still do this by adding an external relay to the smart switch. This might sound a little complicated but if you need a quick wiring diagram let me know possibly in pm bc I might miss it here

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This said, my zigbee motion sensor still doesn’t work and after disconnecting the battery overnight I can confirm that it goes to “unavailable” state

hexed blaze
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Does anyone use tuya trv with zigbee2mqtt? Trv is reporting local temperature as double that of actual temperature Current temperature in the room is 15, but it's reporting This has caused for the trv to never open

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Please help with this

analog valve
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Changed to NUC from Pi. The ZHA can not find the USB stick now. I know it´s the port that need to be changed but It has the full by-id path in the core.config_entries. What am I missing here? Edit: forget this. My own fault ... 🫠 Bad USB connection

wet socket
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hi all. quick question. i received by Skyconnect dongle with firmware v7.1.1, I see that there is newer version available 7.1.3. should i upgrade?

grim igloo
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Sounds like a good idea

elfin cypress
unborn orbit
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Anyone know how to manually push a firmware update on zigbee2mqtt if i have hte .ota file?

strange ibex
carmine hamlet
strange ibex
unborn orbit
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I tried going that route

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I updated my OTA index override file name to /opt/zigbee2mqtt_downstairs/data/inovellimanupdate.json. My json looksl like the following: GNU nano 6.2 inovellimanupdate.json
[
{
"url": "https://files.inovelli.com/firmware/VZM31-SN/Beta/2.10/VZM31-SN_2.10.ota",
"force": true
}
]
when i try and look for new updates, it comes back with no new firmware updates found. any ideas what i'm doing wrong?

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i also tried just inovellimanupdate.json and keeping it in the same folder as my configuration.yaml without success

carmine hamlet
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There were a few issues around OTA update checking that have been fixed recently in the dev branch

wet socket
carmine hamlet
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You can switch to that if you aren't using it, or check the log

wet socket
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UI is not always triggering update

unborn orbit
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what mqtt payload would i send?

carmine hamlet
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Try removing 'force: true'. That was the most recent bug

unborn orbit
wet socket
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zigbee2mqtt/bridge/request/device/ota_update/update

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payload {"id": "deviceID"}

unborn orbit
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tried dev and removing force: true

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no luck

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with sending mqtt message i get the following: Error 2023-01-28 12:31:12No converter available for 'id' ("0x385b44fffeee0e14")

carmine hamlet
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I grabbed the ota file and used this:

[
    {
        "url": "SmartPlug_Zigbee_PROD_OTA_V29_v1.00.29.ota"
    }
]

in the same directory as configuration.yaml, and in configuration.yaml:

ota:
  zigbee_ota_override_index_location: my_index.json
unborn orbit
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did you make a my_index.json file?

carmine hamlet
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that is the first bit

unborn orbit
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okay i'll try doing that

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no dice. trying to restart z2m to see if i need to do that first

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it's strange, not sure why its not working

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maybe i have to change permissions of the json file?

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no luck with both mqtt message and through ui

glacial anchor
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hi all, I have a older philips hue switch

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it shows up as a binary device in ha: binary_sensor.philips_rwl021_binaryinput

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I am searching how I can filter the zigbee events it generates when I press one of the buttons

mellow geode
glacial anchor
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can you give me a screenshot howto filter the zha_event ?

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I would like to use that event as a source for a nodered flow

shrewd pewter
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How critical is it to flash Sonoff-P with updated firmware before using it with zigbee2mqtt?

sharp birch
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So weird thing... I just paired a Aqara Cube, just paired - nothing else, and for some reason when I shake it...
Master Bedroom overhead light comes On
Nightstand lamps turn Off,
Livingroom lights come On,
kitchen light comes On
Front/Back Porch lights turn On
Office light turns Off

Shake it again.. and the opposite of above happens.. I setup ZERO automations..
#general-archived message

strange ibex
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check your binding groups

sharp birch
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Unless its creating a "binging group" on its own upon pairing, then there shouldn't be one, as I never configured it to bind to anything..

Cube just arrived in the mail like 30min ago

last grail
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I'm having trouble with a new Aqara high precision motion sensor (RTCGQ13LM) by Xiaomi.
I am getting false detections approximately every 1 h 50 m...

Clear end   5:27:53  7:18:33  9:08:52
Clear start 3:37:52  5:28:43  7:19:23
            _______  _______  _______
Duration    1:50:01  1:50:50  1:49:29

😕 ❔

waxen lynx
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Hi, it's weekend again and picked up my zigbee toys again: the aqara cube T1 pro. got 2 and both linked in Z2M. but they don't work reliable: I'm testing them a few meters away from my sonoff zbdongle-e coordinator and LQI value is > 200. Sometimes I can do like 30 flips/actions and they all register well. But sometimes it also misses a lot of actions or nothing is registering at all. I got the idea that this was better just after I paired them, but now having them paired and not touched them a couple of days I get this.

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where can I start debugging to see what can be causing this. Is there some kind of debugging tool where I can see all zigbee traffic that is being sent out?

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just to see if the cubes are actually transmitting something when I do an action, or that I have to look at the custom convertor/Z2M support of it

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I read: Connecting the dongle via a long "shielded" USB extension cable in a USB 2.0 port or USB 2.0 hub (and not a USB 3.0 port) to get it away from EMF sources will usually help a lot if experiencing connection or pairing symptoms/issues

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in my case I bought a 5m usb 2.0 extension cable which runs along some network cables and through a technical shaft containing electrical lines, but the sonoff dongle itself is away from that.

grim igloo
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You can’t rule out z2m issues with the e dongle because it only has experimental support

waxen lynx
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enabled this zigbee_herdsman_debug: true setting and checking the logs

fading briar
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Does Amazon's Alexa run Zigbee? I've noted that many (actually, I think it's all) of the Zigbee devices I've purchased also say they'll work with Alexa.
I'm looking at a couple of devices that claim Alexa compatibility, but don't explicitly say they'll work with "generic" Zigbee.

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I'm wondering if they work with Alexa, will my ConBee II and ZHA find them and make them "just work".

violet magnet
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How can I make a zigbee attribute into an HA entity and does it require code changes?

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IE I have a set of Sinope line thermostats and I can see the attribute that tells me the heat level (0-100%). I'd like to have that as an entity so I can show it on a dashboard. I don't see where the attribute->entity mapping is occurring for things like the power usage, though...

grizzled kettle
fading briar
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Interesting, @grizzled kettle, I didn't know that Alexa was also a BT device. TYVM! If I were to choose to add a BT dongle to my machine hosting HA, would that cover it, too?

grizzled kettle
violet magnet
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right now I have to open up the Zigbee device and manually Read the attribute in the zigbee clusters/binding UI

grizzled kettle
fading briar
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OK. TYVM. I'm trying to decide between a fancy bathroom exhaust fan with dimmable, color changing lights - one claims Alexa compatibility but doesn't mention Zigbee at all - and a simple, dumb fan/light combo and totally control it myself with a couple of Shelly 1's.
I'll probably go the latter route - even with the Shelly devices it'd be far less expensive.

grizzled kettle
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What model is it?

fading briar
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And frankly, I don't really care to have a disco in the bathtub. If we're going to party in there, lighting isn't an issue... 😉

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Dinner - I'll get back with you in a bit. Thanks again for the assist!

uncut iris
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Does anyone here have experience with zigbee2mqtt and diyHue + lights? diyHue keeps auto-adding the same device multiple times.

tiny timber
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So far so good with the change back to Conbee from SkyConnect. All my SML001 are still firing/updating and the YRD256 is properly tracking state.

fading briar
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Hrm... I'm not finding the fan on the HomeDepot web site. It doesn't help that they show the fans, while at the store all you see is the box. I know it was a Panasonic, but beyond that I'm not certain.
I'll probably go with a simple fan/light combo that I can control the two separately and be done with it.

last grail
fair mountain
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I restarted ZHA and now I'm getting a ton of:

2023-01-28 18:11:54.982 WARNING (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Unknown device AddrModeAddress(addr_mode=<AddrMode.NWK: 2>, address=0xCB0C)
2023-01-28 18:11:54.987 WARNING (MainThread)

in the logs. Thoughts?

austere patio
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Is anything broken? This is logged when packets come in from unknown devices, which will then be discovered automatically.

opaque pike
#

Whats the good way to turn off all zigbee lights? The service light.turn_off isnt really working for me since it never turns everything off... Some lights are still on

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create a zigbee group with all lights? or just create a script with all my lights in?

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dont know if this is a zigbee or automation question

sterile sleet
#

yes, try the zigbee group way

wet socket
opaque pike
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yeah should have said i use z2m

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its just a bit annoying that i have to remember to add new lights to the proper groups then but i guess i have to live with that

wet socket
#

trust me it's much better that flooding/overloading your zigbee network. 🙂

opaque pike
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yeah thats what i reckon

fading briar
fair mountain
real anvil
#

Hello, it's something recognized that << EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1 , Sonoff Dongle USB Zigbee ZBDongle-E 3.0 >> has some stability ? after some hours many devices become unresponsive? ( both with ZHA and Z2M )

unborn orbit
#

When lights are bound to a switch, is there any way to adjust the transition time?

lilac wharf
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ZHA, z2m, or Deconz?

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If z2m, you can set a default transition for the light (if it supports transitions) in the UI settings page for the device or in YAML

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If ZHA or Deconz, no clue

unborn orbit
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z2m

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its weird, i've tried changing that number and it doens't make a difference

#

under settings specific right?

glossy lintel
#

hey here 🙂

#

I decided to make the jump, and to unpair a few bulbs from hue, and pair them in Z2M

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I migrated all the bulbs of my dressing room, and now I have 4 bulbs in there + one hue dimmer

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I created a group in Z2M, that includes all the bulbs (but cannot add the dimmer to it)

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but I'm a little confused on how to bind the dimmer to my lighbulbs group

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anyone here could tell me what to do ?

#

so here is the group I created

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and in the dimmer device itself > bind

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here is what I have

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question is, should I previously remove the binding with the coordinator ? In order to be allowed to directly control the on/off state of the group of bulbs (vestiaire) ?

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and why do I see 1, 2 as value there ?

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and not simply the name of my dimmer as source endpoint ?

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IF I select 1 there, then the group, (and On/off checked as checkbox) :

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Failed to bind cluster 'genOnOff' from 'Vestiaire - Hue dimmer switch' to 'Vestiaire' (Error: Bind 0x0017880104f50e5f/1 genOnOff from '12' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms))

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really, this is all pretty confusing to be honest

wet socket
#

anyone using Tuya TS011F Plugs with ZHA?

mellow geode
#

There are many variations of them. Any issues with it?

wet socket
#

well it seems the is an issue with source_routing option

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very strange.

novel cove
#

Hey there, just a dummy question, could it possible that a device could only be paired on a specific channel? I have a Legrand outlet that can't be paired using channel 15 but when trying with another ha instance I have, using channel 11 (both with zha), it works flowlessly. I have other outlets connected in my network, but I moved from channel 11 to 15 after the initial pairing, then no problem.

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(I tried with 3 different outlets, could not pair them on channel 15, no problem on channel 11)

wet socket
hollow chasm
#

There are some devices that won't work on certain channels, especially more exotic channels like 26, but 15 is one of the normally recommended channels

wet socket
novel cove
#

I tried with 3 different (even an already paired outlet), no more success...

wet socket
#

@novel cove are you trying to pair them directly with coordinator? or through other router (bulb/socket)?

novel cove
magic jacinth
#

Does anyone have any advice on how to fix a failed migration for the SkyConnect zigbee stick from the Conbee II stick. I followed the process that wiped my Conbee stick and then threw an error trying to connect the SkyConnect, without a re-try option, I had to cancel and try to reconfigure my radio which appears to work on the SkyConnect but none of my zigbee devices are connected now. If I try to migrate back to the conbee I get unkown error. Does anyone know a process to restore the Conbee stick or does the wiping process destory the stick as it won't show up anymore in HA?
I have a manual backup of the zigbee network before swapping the sticks, I am trying to revert back to that if I can.

sand hearth
#

I have 3 door sensors and 2 wired switches on my z2m setup. About a week ago z2m went offline for some reason. Finally got the service/plugin to start after having to do a hard power cycle on the HA box itself. However, now NONE of the devices are connected and don't seem to want to re-connect.
Any tips or guidance on get the devices back online? Or am I back to re-pairing? If I need to re-pair, do I need to delete the device first?

novel cove
austere patio
novel cove
austere patio
#

Can you post the results of the energy scan?

novel cove
# austere patio Can you post the results of the energy scan?
  • 11 10.27% ##########
  • 12 9.65% #########
  • 13 10.67% ##########
  • 14 11.14% ###########
  • [15 ] 36.63% ####################################
  • 16 11.92% ###########
  • 17 9.49% #########
  • 18 9.65% #########
  • 19 10.04% ##########
  • 20 11.69% ###########
  • 21 17.65% #################
  • 22 25.57% #########################
  • 23 22.75% ######################
  • 24 15.45% ###############
  • 25 10.12% ##########
  • 26* 31.06% ###############################
    Note that actually 40 zigbee devices are on channel 15
austere patio
#

Thanks!

novel cove
#

I checked the firmware in Z2M, it says that device version is newer than the one available for DL.

deep swift
#

Hi everyone, I am trying to figure out if my usb zigbee stick has failed. I get the following errors for all of my zigbee devices. "This entity is no longer being provided by the zha integration. If the entity is no longer in use, delete it in settings." I also dont see the device under system and hardware. Any suggestions of what to check next?

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I have restored home assistant backups from days that I know my devices were working without success.

austere patio
deep swift
#

conbee II

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I just found this error in error log. Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/serial/serialposix.py", line 322, in open
self.fd = os.open(self.portstr, os.O_RDWR | os.O_NOCTTY | os.O_NONBLOCK)
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2493964-if00'

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/dev exists but /dev/serial does not.

austere patio
#

Seems like your Conbee isn't showing up. Does it get detected when plugged into another computer?

deep swift
#

I plugged it into my windows machine and the device manager acted like it found a new device. I didnt really dig deeper on windows side.

tranquil tulip
deep swift
#

lsusb -v is not showing anything when entering the command in the Home Assistant Terminal.

austere patio
#

Can you try another USB port?

deep swift
#

yes, doing that now

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I think the USB on my Home Assistant Blue might have died. I have another device with a light on it and it lights up on the Windows PC but nothing on the bliue. lsusb -v shows nothing either.

austere patio
#

What about dmesg?

deep swift
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will check momentarily. I am physically power cycling the device right now. So far I have only restarted the containters.

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Physically power cycling the device fixed it (at least for now). I now see this with lsusb -v /dev/serial/by-id/

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Thats the first time I have had to physically power cycle the device. Not sure why, but thatns so much for the help.

austere patio
#

No worries. I'm glad a simple reboot was all it took 😆

deep swift
#

you and me too. The wife was on my a$$ about the lights in the kitchen not working 🙂

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if I did have a conbee failure is it as simple as pluggijng in a replacement? Or would I have to repair everything?

austere patio
#

You'd need to click the "migrate" button in the ZHA configuration page and re-configure the serial port, but it'll let you switch to a new Conbee (or another type of coordinator)

deep swift
#

Thats awesome. I have been thinking about moving to a virtualized HA environment. I assume I could just restore a backup and then "migrate" ti the new device.

mortal garden
#

Hmm. So, a bit before Christmas my Sky Connect arrived and I migrated the ZHA network onto it - and generally it's been massively more stable. However, I have a couple of Aqara FP1 motion sensors, and it looks like they just don't work using it at all.

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I have one of them currently connected - takes a couple of attempts to find it, but it's added in apparently okay. However, it never detects motion and the configuration parameters won't actually change. If I set a value for one in the UI it changes, but upon refresh it still has the old value.

sour laurel
#

Hi all, wondering if there’s been any issues in homeassistants latest version, I’ve got two bulbs and a door sensor so far and they don’t appear to be responding. Nothing I do in zigbee2mtqq work (turn light on, door contact sensor doesn’t register open). These have all worked fine so only the update has change it? How is best to troubleshoot this?

mortal garden
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I have some messages in the logs relating to that device : 0xD725:1:0x0406]: failed to get attributes '['occupancy']' on 'occupancy' cluster: Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>

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So, looks like it's just failing to communicate

hollow chasm
lofty whale
#

Hi, I have a sensor which has an "illuminance" state showing in zigbee2mqtt

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{
"battery": 100,
"illuminance": 898,
"keep_time": "10",
"last_seen": "2023-01-30T10:20:16+08:00",
"linkquality": 72,
"occupancy": false,
"sensitivity": "high"
}

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but it doesnt show in Home assistant

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how do I get this entity to show up?

crystal mulch
#

Any recs for a Siren that works with ZHA (I mean fully and properly)? I've got a Neo Coolcam and a Heiman and neither of them want to play well with ZHA.

hollow chasm
crystal mulch
#

I could have bad units of course, but when discovered, switches do nothing , There is no config options and trying to update/read parameters through manage device doesn't do anything.

heavy mist
#

Hello,
I wanted to make sure that the Sonoff Zigbee devices that say "Sonoff ZigBee hub required" can be used with a SkyConnect and HA instead?

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Specifically, SONOFF SNZB-01 through SNZB-04.

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Anyone tried these with SkyConnect?

lofty whale
#

Hi, I am also trying to use the luminance sensor on my PIR as a check on when to activate the lights. however these states are present in zigbee2mqtt but not in HA. Do you know why it is such?

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how do I post a screenshot here?

heavy mist
#

If you're asking me, my ZigBee stuff is still en route to me.

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Never used ZigBee as of yet.

lofty whale
#

its pretty awesome. but Im trying to do the "smart" stuff now but I guess Im not smart enough

heavy mist
#

I hate when my Home is smarter than me...

grim igloo
grim igloo
heavy mist
#

Cool! Thanks. I won't have to send my stuff back.

grim igloo
#

always figure out if stuff works with home assitant, zigbee, etc before you buy

#

doing it the other way around is painful for no reason

lofty whale
grim igloo
#

Probably same issue as that guy

lofty whale
#

Ok thanks. Will go check on the mqtt discovery

#

Shouldn't that then not work for all entities?

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Have done entities that work out of the box

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{
"battery": 100,
"illuminance": 898,
"keep_time": "10",
"last_seen": "2023-01-30T10:2 vhit0:16+08:00",
"linkquality": 72,
"occupancy": false,
"sensitivity": "high"
}

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Everything besides illuminance appears as entities in HA

lilac wharf
#

Is it disabled/hidden by any chance?

Screenshot_20230129-233656.png
#

Regardless, you could use that attribute in an automation

lofty whale
lilac wharf
#

Oh wait, sorry. If you go to developer tools > YAML and look for the binary sensor entity for the motion sensor, do you see it as an attribute of that entity?

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I was thinking that JSON is the attributes of the motion sensor entity, but I remembered that's displayed as YAML in HA

lofty whale
#

Alrighty, will check these when i get home🙏

#

Thanks

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Hope do i post screen shots here,

still portal
#

Morning guys, I think I managed to flash my Sonoff ZB Donlge E with the router firmware, but somehow I dont see it when I check Z2M Map. Is there a way to check whether the stick is working and if it is, what is it working like ?

glossy lintel
#

woooow

#

25 minutes remaining to update the FW of a single tradfri light bulb

#

is that a normal ETA ?

hollow chasm
#

Zigbee updates are slow

#

A Tradfri remote can take like 2 hours

warm umbra
#

I have a question about connection losses with zigbee. e.g. I have e aqara door sensor, after an HA update it lost connection and never gets it back. But I cannot repair it as it is too far away from the stick and I dont like to unmount it from the location it is glued everytime 😄

sour shadow
#

You need to add routers

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If you can't re-pair it in place then it's too far away from any Zigbee router

warm umbra
#

hmmm, but repairing means the same procedure as it was new right? activate pairing mode and so on? the weird thing is it still shows as connected device in HA

sour shadow
#

Yes

warm umbra
#

ok thx!

#

are HUE Lights routers? can google it 😄

sour shadow
#

Yes

warm umbra
#

ok so have to switch them from the hue bridge to my zigbee stick i guess

sour shadow
#

Assuming you don't turn the power off to them, yes

warm umbra
#

can happen / should not happen 😄 not everyone in the household is living the "smart" life...

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we will move to a house in a few month where I wanted to start

sour shadow
#

Please don't crosspost 😉

warm umbra
#

ahhh sorry 😄 was not sure if everybody is reading both channels

rapid dawnBOT
#

Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

sour shadow
#

☝️

real anvil
real anvil
sour laurel
real anvil
#

Interesting, I was thinking something with efr32 chip,

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as seems that MANY people are unable to have stable connection with aqara devices

sour laurel
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hmmm, since then I have powered down the bulbs they are controllable but still don't display right in homeassistant. I.e one light is off but shows on, the second will turn on but wont show on

sour shadow
#

The problem usually comes down to either a general mesh issue (interference, weak signal, low battery), poor coordinator choice (anything not CC2652 based for Z2M), or bad routers (see the pins)

real anvil
sour shadow
#

That doesn't mean it's not interference

real anvil
wet socket
#

@real anvil well... I didn't had much luck with Sonoff ZBDongle-E as well with both ZHA and Z2M... I suspect it's a firmware issue. I've moved to SkyConnect which using the same chipset as far as I know with ZHA last week and everything seems to work ok for time being. 🙂

rapid dawnBOT
#

@real anvil When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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The mesh is only built from devices that are part of the mesh

real anvil
lofty whale
wet socket
real anvil
wet socket
#

I have a square version all over

wet socket
#

@real anvil i've tried multiple firmwares, different configs on both ZHA and Z2M, and i was not able to stabilize it with Sonoff ZBDongle-E.

carmine marlin
#

Hi everyone, I'm having an issue with ZHA on Yellow Hardware and I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction? After updating to HA 2023.1.7 my ZHA stopped working. I did a factory reset and now ZHA cannot be configured. The zigbee hardware is discovered automatically as "yellow" but when trying to configure it simply just responds with "unknown error". I have tried manually adding as well using serial port /dev/ttyAMA0, EZSP Hardware, baud rate of 115200, and hardware flow control . I get "failed to connect".

The only hint I have is this log entry

Logger: zigpy_deconz.api
Source: components/zha/radio_manager.py:170
First occurred: 12:19:56 PM (3 occurrences)
Last logged: 12:23:04 PM

No response to 'Command.read_parameter' command with seq id '0x02'

wet socket
#

@carmine marlin deconz? 🙂

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by any chance you got DeConz coordinator connected to it?

real anvil
carmine marlin
carmine marlin
wet socket
#

I am not familiar with Yellow hardware, but theoretically, try to go to Settings, press on Add integration, type ZHA, and select your adapter and it should work. But I guess you've already done it.

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if ZHA is already present, try to delete it, restart HA, and try again.

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if it's not going to work... you can try to delete or edit your config entry in the core.config_entries file... but be careful... after editing you will need to restart HA once again.

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this fine is in the /config/.storage/core.config_entries

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your entry should look something like this:

rapid dawnBOT
#

@wet socket I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
wet socket
#

but in your case, i guess it will be "radio_type": "deconz"

carmine marlin
molten linden
#

You can use the migrate radio - reconfigure current radio in the UI as well

glossy lintel
#

gents, I migrated from hue to Z2M, completely

#

and I removed all devices from alexa

#

I unlinked hue <> alexa accounts, on both sides

#

but when I discover new devices using alexa, it keeps finding old / not existing anymore hue devices !

#

Salle à manger luminaire 3
Royal Philips Electronics smart device

#

anyone knows how to get rid of these once for all ?

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I guess the devices are still somewhere in amazon "cloud" for some reason, as I removed the link with my hue account, it makes no sense these devices are back

austere patio
carmine marlin
austere patio
#

Unlikely. Do you have any addons running that could be accessing the radio?

carmine marlin
#

No add-ons after the reset.

austere patio
#

Did you ever install the multi-PAN addon? Z2M?

carmine marlin
#

Yes, at one point I may have.

austere patio
#

The former or the latter?

carmine marlin
#

Former (prior to resetting).

austere patio
#

That would be the cause of your problems then 😆

#

It flashes new firmware to your Yellow's Zigbee radio that is entirely incompatible with ZHA directly

#

You'll either need to re-install the multi-PAN addon and re-configure ZHA to connect to that, or re-flash the original Zigbee firmware

carmine marlin
#

How do I reflash the original zigbee firmware?

pseudo viper
#

Hi there, yesterday i got the new Core-Update. I was curious of the new Sky Connect USB wich was unable to configure multiprotocoll in the Hardware section with the Core 2023_01 Firmware. With the update Multiprotocoll (Zigbee and Thread) should work. But since I configured it. My Z2M Addon stopped Working. I get following Error in the Log file: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error Resource temporarily unavailable Cannot lock port'
at SerialPort.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/uart.ts:91:28)
at SerialPort._error (/app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:76:22)
at /app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:112:18

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Does anynoe have the same Problem or any clue?

austere patio
austere patio
pseudo viper
austere patio
#

Indeed

#

Reconfigure Z2M and change the serial port to "tcp://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999"

pseudo viper
austere patio
pseudo viper
#

But it seems ally my devices are gone 😦

#

but thank you anyway 👍

austere patio
#

Devices aren't stored on the coordinator so that may be something with Z2M. Maybe try restoring the addon from an earlier backup?

still portal
#

Sorry for spamming my question again guys, I managed to flash my Sonoff ZB Donlge E with the router firmware, but somehow I dont see it when I check Z2M Map. Is there a way to check whether the stick is working and if it is, what is it working like ?

carmine marlin
austere patio
#

Did you install multi-PAN from the hardware menu in the beta, or did you install the addon directly?

carmine marlin
true wing
#

I've poked around Google trying to figure out if there is a way to turn off all the "Attribute Updated event was fired" logs in the logbook, but I haven't found an answer. I see lots of others asking how to also. Anyone have any hints?

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It's coming from several of the ZHA devices (i'm assuming temp sensor and maybe vibration sensor)

humble isle
#

Hey guys.. I recently migrated HA to my synology NAS as it's by far more stable than a Raspberry Pi. I just bought a new Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 stick, to get Zigbee up and running - only to find that synology don't allow USB pass through to Docker.

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Is it possible to plug the dongle into something else, which is network connected? Like a raspberry pi? and use the dongle that way?

austere patio
humble isle
dire owl
#

hey all, my SkyConnect shipped and I currently have ZHA running on a ConbeeII stick with my RPi 4B. To be honest, my ZHA network is working really well, and I don't plan on switching everything over to the SkyConnect. So, would it be an issue if I use the skyconnect for matter/thread only, and continue to use the ConbeeII for ZHA...that is untill I need another USB port...lol

austere patio
whole ermine
#

Hi folks. I don't suppose anyone might have any ideas why my smart plugs (Both Ikea and Philips, connected via ZHA) are not showing up in Homekit? I've specifically selected them in the config menu to display on homekit but no joy. (Other switch. things that are connected via wifi do show up)

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(They previously worked fine when I was using Deconz, but recently migrated)

tropic depot
#

are they lights or switches in HA?

whole ermine
#

They're switches in HA

#

switch.(name)

tropic depot
#

some show up as the wrong type because the mfg selected the incorrect profile in Zigbee

#

hrm

whole ermine
#

Yeah, I'm baffled

#

What's weird is that it's not one manufacturer - I've got both an Ikea smart plug and a Philips one, and neither are showing up which suggests its something... Zigbee... related?

#

Though both work absolutely fine in HA and can be controlled through that

#

So it's just whatever passes it through to the Homekit integration

tropic depot
#

Zigbee has nothing to do w/ that... how are you exposing the devices?

#

full domain?

#

or individually selected entities in homekit?

whole ermine
#

Individually selected - but I've definitely got them ticked on the list!

raven jewel
#

Did you remove them from HomeKit and then add the new ones, or just rename the new ones to be the same as the old ones?

whole ermine
raven jewel
#

Re-added meaning what precisely?

whole ermine
#

Literally poking the reset button on each one physically and going to "add device" in ZHA

#

and letting it pick them up and re-add them to the system again

#

Shall I try renaming the entity? could that help?

sudden lintel
#

has anyone here connected a Xiaomi cube using z2mqtt? i just joined one and it says unsupported?

strange ibex
#

It probably didn't finish pairing.

sudden lintel
#

looks like its not supported yet.. its the t1 pro

sour shadow
#

There's an open issue with a custom converter you can try

indigo bough
#

Hi I got myself a sonoff ZBMini-l and im having real issues with it. im using the Skyconnect and ZHA, I seem to be able to pair it and it functions but as soon as the paring mode exits I can no longer control it from home assistant. Has anyone else experienced this?

quiet sentinel
#

Any reason Zigbee2mqtt wouldn't pass all controls for an ikea bulb to HA?

#

Half my bulbs have brightness and color temp pass through but half don't

raven jewel
#

Have you checked for firmware updates?

quiet sentinel
#

it says up to date through home assistant but I'm not sure I trust it

#

they're ikea Tradfri bulbs

raven jewel
#

And that all the settings are correct? Every so often an IKEA device doesn't populate its info correctly, either unpairing and re-pairing or setting some of the settings, this is an example of a similar issue albeit for a button: https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/11775

quiet sentinel
#

If I updated their firmware will I have to reconfigure perhaps?

hollow chasm
#

nope

quiet sentinel
#

weird

#

I'll try the process from that thread and see if I get anything, Thanks!

sharp birch
#

Is there something I need to do in HA to ensure a device is full removed after clicking the "Remove" option for the Device?

I got one of those T1 Cubes, it does not work, shaking it turns on/off every zigbee device in my own (lights/switches/plugs/etc) ...

I removed it from Home Assistant, then placed it back in the packaging so I could return it.. I grabbed it off the desk so I could put it in a box to send back to Amazon, but then dropped it.. Everything Zigbee turned off in the house!

How do I completely remove the device?

raven jewel
#

It bound to the default group

#

You just need to change it to something else and voilà you'll be fine

sharp birch
#

How is "bound" when its not even available in the list of Zigbee devices?

raven jewel
#

Binding is a direct pairing, you don't have to see it to have it

molten linden
#

If you remove a non mains powered device be sure to wake it when you send the remove command

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Or remove it and then reset it without opening up joining

sharp birch
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Information on how to Unbind would be helpful 🤷🏼‍♂️

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and how to prevent binding all together

raven jewel
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You can choose to bind things through ZHA or Z2M, but if it binds outside of that then you won't see it.

sharp birch
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I know you can bind things, but the issue here is that its binging to what "group" that contains EVERY Single Zigbee device in my home.. when I don't even have a Zigbee Group setup in Home Assistant ..

hollow chasm
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The coordinator can tell devices to bind/unbind, but the actual bindings live inside the devices. That's what allows a remote to work even when your coordinator is down. It sounds like the cube comes from the factory bound to the default group

sharp birch
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But why would it be bound to a Default "Group" on a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle .. when the device is made by Aqara 🤔

molten linden
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Some devices come out of the box bound to a certain group ID

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Including 0x0000 which is essentially all devices

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And if you removed the device but it wasn’t awake

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It could still be on network sending to group

sharp birch
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So then the next concern is.. if essentially all devices are in Group 0x0000, then why doesn't the Sengled Switches I have do the same thing this Aqara T1 Cube is doing?

molten linden
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Because they aren’t sending to that group Id

sharp birch
molten linden
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It needs a quirk

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It’s not doing standard zigbee 🤷🏼‍♂️

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Check the zha device handler repo for an open issue if there isn’t one open one. The T1 cube is relatively new so… takes time for people to figure them out and make them work.

sharp birch
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Its not sending to that group ID? Its cluster ID shows as Basic 0x0000 🤷🏼‍♂️

molten linden
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Group ids are different then clusters

sharp birch
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LUMI lumi.remote.cagl02
Quirk: zhaquirks.xiaomi.aqara.cube_aqgl01.CubeCAGL02

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it shows a "Quirk"

molten linden
sharp birch
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Idk what "Lightlink" is .. I don't have any of those devices

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and when I go to "Groups" in the Zigbee Controller, there are 0 groups listed there

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And when I click on "Manage Zigbee Device" and select "Binding" it only shows
"Ota 0x0019" as the only Bindable Group

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Which for whatever reason that doesn't show up under "Zigbee Groups" when I go to Add Device > Zigbee > Groups

tropic depot
#

Group 0 is a zigbee default thing. The reason your cube is doing this is because it isn’t correctly bound to the controller

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Remove it from the screen in ZHA and press the button on the cube

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Once it’s gone from zha hold the button on the cube until it resets. It will flash 3 times

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once that is done add devices in zha again

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Then once the joining starts press the button on the cube every second or so until it is fully joined and the green card shows up

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at this point if the configuration succeeds you should see events and the cube should stop trying to control group zero

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This is a fairly common consequence of a zigbee 3.0 device joining a network without being bound to the coordinator or anything else correctly. The devices fall back to trying to control group zero.

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Xiaomi devices can be a complete PITA to join as outlined in one of the many pinned messages on this channel.

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@sharp birch ^^^

mortal sail
#

I'm having an issue with my Aqara motion sensor randomly not responding to motion. I have it in my laundry room, and 6 days out of 7 it woks as normal, it detects motion, turns a light its linked to on, stays on until you leave the room, then the light turns off. but that one day a week it acts like it doesn't exist. both the motion sensor and the light are both showing online, no issues showing with either of them. Is this something that has to be reset/restarted fairly often?

pearl owl
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im using the hubz zigbee integration with a HUSBZB-1. I have one door sensor. its seems my two unifi aps have had red 2.4 interference. Does this integration still use channel 15 by default? my aps are using 1 and 6

sharp birch
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the entires in the logbook are from clicking the "PRESS" button on the device page. Pressing this also causes the little blue light on the cube to blink

sour shadow
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im using the hubz zigbee integration

glossy lintel
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good morning

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I'm getting rid of a few sonoff sensors (door opening sensor / temperature/humity...)

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as they keep disconnecting, and are unreliable

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so I'm seeking for recommendations to replace them

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I need 3 door sensors, and 2 temperature sensors, any advices ?

sour shadow
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Xiaomi Aqara - particularly the E1/T1/P1 range

glossy lintel
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good morning Tinkerer

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ok cool looking on amazon for these

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just to be sure :

sour shadow
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Amazon? No... AliExpress 😉

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Also, you can remove everything from the ? onwards in those URLs

glossy lintel
#

well thing is, I really rather get them tomorrow, I want to put all these zigbee shitty devices out of my sight asap :d

sour shadow
glossy lintel
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I'm reading first comment on amazon and it scares me a little

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"So what is the big downside?

Well, if you do not use the Aqara Hub, but instead use them as Zigbee devices with other Systems like Samsung Smarthings, Habitat, or Home Assistant and you have a bigger house that needs repeaters, you run into big, big trouble.

Despite the Zigbee 3 Standard they should follow, these devices "stick" to the connection they got originally paired to, so if one of your repeaters goes offline, your Aqara sensor goes offline, as it refuses outright to connect to the next repeater in your house.

This means the sensors do not follow strictly the Zigbee 3.0 Standard and you can run into huge issues, which makes an amazing product a big hassle, especially if you use them all over the house as I do."

wet socket
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@glossy lintel that correct. all aqara end devices will disconnect if the router goes down.

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but there is also an advantage in this strategy.

glossy lintel
#

ok well, I will always follow Tinkerer's recommendations, if he says they are the ones that works

wet socket
#

once you connected if to the concrete router it will stay connected there "forever".

glossy lintel
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I just bought them, it can't be worse that the damn sonoff devices that never worked 😉

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yeah so in short I connect them to one of my bulbs, the closest one, and it should be fine, right ?

#

🙂

#

i'll see, they will arrive tomorrow...

wet socket
#

almost all my end devices, contact sensors, motion sensors, and temp sensors are from aqara... in my opinion, they are very reliable and price/value ratio is great.

glossy lintel
#

thanks for clarifying this

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I have a ton of sonoff devices that actually do work

#

but 2 out of my 10 temp sensors keeps disconnecting

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and all my door sensors ended up to be quite unreliable (thing you really don't want for a door sensor which should be THE device telling you if someone breaks into your home)

wet socket
#

:)))

hollow chasm
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The Zigbee 3.0 ones are supposed to find new paths based on what I've seen Tinkerer and others say

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It's the 1.2 stuff that doesn't

wet socket
glossy lintel
#

I've read that it's due to to sonoff usb coordinator

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my values are shit....

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and yes I did isolate the Zigbee network from the wifi one, etc.

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I'm using an extender...

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I flashed the last zstack,

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...

hollow chasm
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The E1, T1, P1 lines are 3.0. e.g. Aqara Motion Sensor vs. Aqara P1 Motion Sensor

wet socket
#

@glossy lintel I've moved to SkyConnect from CC2652P lately. As far as i understood the EFR32MG21 firmware calculating LQI differently.

glossy lintel
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could be

#

I decided to swap full Z2M, and moved all my hue lights and devices to it, hoping it would improve my zigbee network

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but in the end, it's just the same

#

I'd even say that my hue bulbs are less reliable now

#

some are reacting to my scenes a few seconds later

wet socket
#

I actually swapped from Z2M to ZHA last week after two years on Z2M. 🙂

glossy lintel
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or some are simply not reacting at all when I, Eg:, do shut down all the lights of one zone

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why did you do this ?

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easiness ?

wet socket
#

mostly because of proper SkyConnect (EFR32MG21 chip) support and "future-proof". I want to start adding Matter devices as soon as Matter support will get to a normal state.

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both solutions are very good... and each of them has its own pros and cons.

glossy lintel
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well I believe ZHA is easier to get on tracks, it just works, out of the box.

#

guys, I have a few first gen hue color lamps, which also are quite unreliable

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I guess it's because they are using Zigbee 1 or something ?

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which bulbs should I use to replace these ?

wet socket
#

@glossy lintel i have also relatively old hue bulbs and they are fine. are they up to date?

glossy lintel
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yes I think they are

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Z2M is not offering me any update

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I updated everything as soon as I could

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thing is, they often don't respond to availability pings

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and when I activate my light dim scene (when starting playback on my shield pro) they take several seconds before they actually change their lighting mode

wet socket
#

I have LWA001 and LCT015 from Philips and they work fine.

#

what is your coordinator?

glossy lintel
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it's a sonoff usb key

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the P model

#

but yeah, when I look at these lights LQI's I do understand why the right one keeps taking ages before it "triggers" the scene

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it's lqi is 18

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...

wet socket
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wait

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🙂

#

you have similar problem as many of us. 🙂

glossy lintel
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please let me know what to do !

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you seem to be ma hero this morning dude

wet socket
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if you use "regular" HA scene, you flooding a zigbee network.

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if you are already on the Z2M, try Zigbee Scene

glossy lintel
#

I did

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I created scenes directly in Z2M

wet socket
#

and? it's still slow?

glossy lintel
#

and noticed that it was not really working better

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well

#

I reated several groups

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one per room

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and also created two other zones

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ground floor and ALL lights

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I created two scenes per group (and zone)

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all lights on / all lights off

#

I noticed that once I've added all my lights to the "All lights" group

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some of them were not starting, or not shutting down, when I am calling the Z2M scene

#

my tought was exactly what you stated, the more lamps I add to the group, the more unreliable it gets

#

I could eventually try to change my zigbee coordinator stick, and see if the LQI improves

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as Ican tell you I've never had any reliability issues with any of my hue lamps when I was using the hue hub

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I suspect either Z2M, or the coordinator, to be the base of the problem

wet socket
#

Sonoff ZBDongle-P is a good stick, don't need to change it

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which FW are you running?

glossy lintel
#

give me a sec

#

first of all let me show you the kind of LQI's I'm getting

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I don't think this is normal, really....

# 
Zigbee2MQTT version
    1.29.2 commit: 1402139

Coordinator type
    zStack3x0

Coordinator revision
    20220219

Coordinator IEEE Address
    0x00124b0026b69b6c

Frontend version
    0.6.121
wet socket
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that is a regular LQI for CC2652x series...

glossy lintel
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thing is, these lamps with low LQI's tend to be the less reliable

wet socket
glossy lintel
#

ok, wat's new in that one ?

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whatever, it's the latest one, I'll give it a shot, it can be wrong 🙂

wet socket
#

Koenkk released it yesterday out of Dev... there were many complaints about Sonoff ZBDongle-P with old firmware.

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this one should fix it

glossy lintel
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ok that's good news

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would be great if this could fix my issues

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I've struggeled WEEKS to get this working

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initially only with the sensors, and since a few days, with my lights

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ok I just did stop Z2M

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time to run the FW upgrade

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damn where is the tool again ?

wet socket
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check this thread

glossy lintel
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ok sec I need to re-grab cc2538-bsl

jaunty maple
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I added two ikea remotes to z2m and tried to update (both through HA and directly through Z2M) but it says "device failed to respond" even though the buttons work. Is there anything i can do about that?

wet socket
glossy lintel
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I' malmost there, first time I'm flashing this stick from the rock64......dependencies to install...

jaunty maple
glossy lintel
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ok done

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Coordinator revision
20221226

wet socket
glossy lintel
#

yeah, ETA's are crazy long

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for my wired bulbs, it was around 30 min to get an update done

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ok stickpin I'm up-to-date

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but still, I have shit LQIs

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one other thing I did notice is that Z2M did delete all my scenes !

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nice !

#

...

#

lets see if my zeigbee devices keeps not responding

wet socket
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transmit_power: 20

glossy lintel
#

that's also a good idea

#

really, these timeouts drives me nuts

wet socket
#

it's not going to change your LQI... but your coordinator will "scream" louder... 😄

glossy lintel
#

look, I was able to shut down that light, then when I tried to get it back on

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I've got a timeout

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it's super unreliable

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I live in an old house, thick walls, but still...

#

in which conf file do I change this setting ?

#

transmit_power: 20 ?

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ok in Z2M directly

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sorry I did not notice you pasted a link

wet socket
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configuration.yaml

glossy lintel
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yep

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there's an option in the GUI by the way

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in advanced settings

wet socket
#

maybe. 🙂

glossy lintel
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I'm restarting the service, just in case...

wet socket
#

you need to, after this change

glossy lintel
#

Idid

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I did 🙂

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now, I only can check over the day if things seems to work better

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maybe changing the transmission power of the coordinator will help

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it is located in the basement, not ideal

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but I have no other choice

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I will try to brute force it by enabling the "all lights on" scene for my "ALL lighs" group in Z2M

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if it works reliably, it might be a good start !

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then, I'd rather want to call Z2M scenes from inside HA I guess ? instead of acting on HA light groups ?

wet socket
#

do you use RPi? sorry for the obvious question, if yes, do you use USB extension cable?

glossy lintel
#

unfrotunately it seems Z2M is not passing its scenes to HA

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I have an extension cable, yes

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😉

#

I really spent 3 weeks at start, trying to get these LQI's getting higher

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so.....I've done everything people in here told me to do !

wet socket
#

@glossy lintel sec i will share template with you how to call Zigbee scene from HA

glossy lintel
#

cool that's nice from you

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I will walk in the house now, and see if all lights are responiding when I light the "all lights on / off" scene for my "all lights" group

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yesterday, I did notice that approx 5% of my lights were simply not "taking" the scene

wet socket
#

mqtt:
scene:
#
# Zigbee2MQTT Scenes
#
- name: My Zigbee Scene 1
unique_id: my_zigbee_scene1
command_topic: "zigbee2mqtt/My Zigbee Lights Group 1/set"
payload_on: '{"scene_recall": 0}'
- name: My Zigbee Scene 2
unique_id: my_zigbee_scene2
command_topic: "zigbee2mqtt/My Zigbee Lights Group 1/set"
payload_on: '{"scene_recall": 1}'
- name: My Zigbee Scene 3
unique_id: my_zigbee_scene3
command_topic: "zigbee2mqtt/My Zigbee Lights Group 2/set"
payload_on: '{"scene_recall": 0}'

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edit it according to your Z2M config and add it to the HA configuration.yaml

glossy lintel
#

I have to re-create the scene

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for some reason I'm getting a "unkown scene was called message or something

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strange

#

...

#

ok I already have one of my switches that do timeout 😦

#

LQI is 7 ...

#

stupid quezstion but, is there no way to easily redirect it to another router ? to see if it improves the values ?

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or do I really have to -re-pair it every time ?

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it makes no sense, as I'm sure I did pair my lamps using the closest router (lamp) and still....

#

I wonder why hue is not encountering any of these issues

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it just works

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with a single hub

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I guess hue is capable of finding the closest router, and highest LQI value, all alone

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stickpin, one extra question, bining is not working on my end

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as I told you, I created a set of groups

wet socket
#

you can try to pair the end device, switch for example, to the closed "router", in Z2M there is an option to pair through a specific device.

glossy lintel
#

and when I select one of my (either hue magic button / dimmer switch) I cannot bind them to my light groups

glossy lintel
#

I mean, I should have enough routers ^^

#

looks at this mess !

#

haha

#

what I'm not getting is why, once connected, the zigbee devices are not trying to find the best route

#

this is something I'm not understanding

#

as they are connected alltogether, they should be able to figure out they are getting better LQI's when connecting to this or that router (I speak about the wired devices, I know the battery devices can't do that)

#

I mean, if I take a single device :

sour shadow
#

Xiaomi's Zigbee 1.2 devices will almost never change parent

glossy lintel
#

I can see it is connected to random routers, all around the house

sour shadow
#

Most Zigbee 3.0 devices will, but it's not going to happen in minutes, it may take hours/days

glossy lintel
#

look, this bulb is located in the dressing room, it connects to some device in the kitchen and also in the bathroom one floor up, and also to some devices in my living room

sour shadow
#

It's a router, that's what they do

glossy lintel
#

well, I already did let these run for 24 hours, but just did update the FW, and restarted Z2M, I'll give them a few more days

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hopefully things will improve over time, as they will find their way

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just like children do

wet socket
glossy lintel
#

problem is, I also do have devices in the basement !

#

so, should I buy another, secondary coordinator, add it to the loop ?

sour shadow
#

You don't have secondary coordinators

#

You can move that to a more sane location, or buy a network connected one if you have wired network around the house

wet socket
#

i would just try to move coordinator to a different location.

glossy lintel
#

ok, so...I guess I have enough routers

#

well, I did move it the best I could

sour shadow
#

LQI of 255 is often I don't have a working connection

glossy lintel
#

if I put it on the upper floor (which may be possible) I'll loose connection with my sonoff switches located in the basement 😦

sour shadow
#

So, that 14/255 is a bad sign

glossy lintel
#

damn

#

ok, good point is, it's a rock64 running Z2M, I can actually move it wherever I need

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I'll try to put it one floor up, and pray....so that I keep getting signal on my sonoff switches located in the basement

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as you can see tinkered, it's not the only XX/255 value I have

#

in the "background" you can see a grayed 16/255

mighty river
#

I upgraded to OS 9.5 and a lot (but not all, around 80%) of my ZHA devices has become unavailable. What could be causing this?

glossy lintel
#

well well well, I'm testing the all lights off scene in Z2M

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and it's not working great

#

I disable all the lights, and I have that tradfri bulb who has a very decent LQI, that is reported as "Off" in Z2M, but is actually NOT turned off

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if I use the on/off switch in Z2M dashboard, it just works

#

so I guess it's as stickpin said, a Zigbee network congestion, when shooting the "off" message to all the lamps at once

#

is it possible to sequence these scenes ?

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Eg: shut down all lamps -> 1. shut down ground floor 2. shut down 1st floor 3. shut down 2nd floor ?

#

I believe I can do this easily from within HA

#

still this is not super nice, it should just "work" as is

#

strangely it's always the same bulb not taking it's group scene "action"....

#

I will try to use another bulb...

#

jesus....

wet socket
#

@glossy lintel if you use Z2M scene and not HA Scenes, then Zigbee sends only once command: Scene Recall to the Zigbee group.

glossy lintel
#

I am using Z2M exclusively to test this now

#

so from my group, I simply did create two scenes

#

in my group

#

on and off

#

for all lights

#

I am now enabling and disabling my 39 lamps again and again

#

and I can see that I already have one lamp not firing up when I send the off scene

#

unfortunately, I noticed all my basement sonoff on/off (ZBMINIL) switches acts the same way

wet socket
#

I have also a scene for all 29 lamps and it's working properly.

glossy lintel
#

they are not switching to ON when I start the ON scene

#

yeah, maybe is it due to these SHIT sonoff devices again....

#

the ZBMINISL are pure crap

#

really

wet socket
#

i use two ZBMINIs not SL at home.... and they are ok.

glossy lintel
#

well, independently the work

wet socket
#

but be careful, i had some ZBMINIs before that were able to work with ONE zigbee group only.

glossy lintel
#

as soon I send a group scene to them, they are not reacting at all

#

ok that might be the problem, they are in both "basement" AND "all lights"

#

I could get rid of all lights, and keep HA all lights group maybe ?

#

I'm getting rid of my basement group, for the sake of testing

#

then, these devices will only be part of a single group

#

maybe Z2M sends the signal to the "wrong" place

wet socket
#

i got a "new" version now with FW v2.0.0 and working good with multiple zigbee groups

#

z2m just send the command to the group

glossy lintel
#

I don't think they are 2.X

wet socket
#

if only those two devices are not reacting, meaning they are not properly binded to the group.

glossy lintel
#

and these devices are not showing up ad upgradable in Z2M

#

those are the only devices I cannot check updates for

#

all the other devices do have a hyperlink in the "FW version" I can click on

#

if I check if an update is available for the ZBMINILs -> no update is available

#

they are in 1.1.1 though

#

...

#

I confirm, this is happening to all my ZBMINIL devices

#

they are not responding to group scene calls

#

even if removed from a secondary group

#

...

#

haha damn why am I not allowed to post any images here, it would help ^^

#

jesus....and now, the device that had 192LQI (right next to where I've put the coordinator) has 0 LQI

#

I'm really driving nuts

brave nacelle
#

getting a ton of "Unknown cluster command" in the logs

#

noticed issues with a new zigbee power strip too which was strange

#

it wasn't turning off/on ports when requested and randomly was showing the wrong state of the switch

glossy lintel
#

stickpin, I cannot find this 2.0.0 FW you mentionned

#

even the official sonoff page seems to link koen's page with 1.1.1 ota file

#

do you have a link where I can grab the latest FW ?

#

are we sure we are speaking about the same version ? I use the switch with no neutral wire

#

here I can see latest version for the ZBMINIL is 1.1.1

glossy lintel
#

ok well, these Z2M groups are not working for me

#

I've switched back to my good old light groups in HA

wet socket
#

an i was talking about ZBMINI not a ZBMINIL

glossy lintel
#

but we are speaking about the the version without the neutral wire ?

#

yes that's what I tought

#

anyway, I can tell you that once I added all my lights to the right areas in HA

#

and then created a new zone called ground floor, I have no more issues

#

all the lights are turning on and off without exception

#

it makes me think there might be a bug in Z2M

#

which "skips" sending the action to specific devices

#

when it sends a group scene...

wet socket
#

i would say on ZBMINIL side, not Z2M. 😉

glossy lintel
#

yep, maybe

quiet ravine
#

@glossy lintel you mentioned Nous A1Z plugs a month ago and were not very happy with them. I stumbled upon them on Amazon and they have great reviews. Did you find any better ones yet?

mighty river
#

Hi, I recently tried to move from ZHA to Z2M, but it seems the addon itself is timing out quite frequently; it can run without problem for a couple of hours, then when trying to access it I get 502: Bad Gateway (and all devices paired becomes unavailable).

Nothing is showing in the logs, except that it seems that it is trying to restart but getting stuck on Starting zigbee-herdsman.

Anyone know a fix to this?

Running HAOS and the latest Z2M version

sour shadow
#

Depends on what the log is showing you

mighty river
#

As I said above, seems to be getting stuck on starting zigbee-herdsman, but no log entries before that. Or do you refer to the supervisor log?

# 
[16:43:00] INFO: Socat not enabled
[16:43:04] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-01-31 16:43:16: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-01-31.16-43-16' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-01-31 16:43:16: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.29.2 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-01-31 16:43:16: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.83-hotfix.0)```
sour shadow
#

What coordinator are you using?

mighty river
#

The Sonoff-E, which I know is experimental, but I figured this would not affect the addon itself crashing... but maybe it could?

sour shadow
#

It shouldn't

#

Have you tried setting both the Z2M and the herdsman logging to debug?

mighty river
#

Do I run DEBUG=zigbee-herdsman* npm start in the HA terminal?

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It only says "start with"

sour shadow
#

I have no idea how the add-on needs it added

mighty river
#

Oh

sour shadow
#

Oh, it tells you on that page...

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Home Assistant OS/Supervised addon

mighty river
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I couldve read more 😄

sour shadow
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Reading ... it's hard

mighty river
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2023-01-31T15:56:44.893Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter Failed to validate path: 'Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT'
2023-01-31T15:56:44.899Z zigbee-herdsman:controller:log Starting with options '{"network":{"networkKeyDistribute":false,"networkKey":```
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2023-01-31T15:56:44.907Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart Opening SerialPort with {"path":"/dev/ttyACM0","baudRate":115200,"rtscts":false,"autoOpen":false}
2023-01-31T15:56:44.932Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart Serialport opened
2023-01-31T15:56:44.935Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart Uart reseting
2023-01-31T15:56:44.936Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart --> Write reset
2023-01-31T15:56:44.941Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart --> [1ac038bc7e]
2023-01-31T15:56:45.083Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart <-- [11]
2023-01-31T15:56:46.062Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart <-- [c1020b0a527e]
2023-01-31T15:56:46.068Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart <-- RSTACK: c1020b0a527e
2023-01-31T15:56:46.070Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart RSTACK Version: 2 Reason: RESET_SOFTWARE frame: c1020b0a527e
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2023-01-31T15:56:46.083Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:ezsp ==> {"_cls_":"version","_id_":0,"_isRequest_":true,"desiredProtocolVersion":4}
2023-01-31T15:56:46.092Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart --> DATA (0,0,0): 00000004
2023-01-31T15:56:46.100Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart --> [004221a850ed2c7e]
2023-01-31T15:56:46.101Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart -?- waiting (1)
2023-01-31T15:56:46.107Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart <-- [0142a1a85c2825d8e12b7e]
2023-01-31T15:56:46.110Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart <-- DATA (0,1,0): 0142a1a85c2825d8e12b7e
2023-01-31T15:56:46.113Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart --> ACK  (1)
2023-01-31T15:56:46.115Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart --> [8160597e]```
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I'll do some googling, but it seems like its not finding the coordinator at first glance, so maybe it's the coordinator after all

rapid dawnBOT
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@fiery juniper Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

mighty river
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But... couple of minutes it started anyway. And this wouldn't explain why it's crashing after being succesfully running. I'll try the global log as well and see when it crashes again

sour shadow
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2023-01-31T15:56:44.893Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter Failed to validate path: 'Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT'
``` suggests it's not getting passed to the add-on
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And yes, if the adapter is removed from the add-on then that'll crash it...

mighty river
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Seems a little strange though that it should stop detecting it after running fine for a couple of hours. But yes, it is experimental...

sour shadow
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Well, the problem is outside the add-on, nothing to do with Z2M

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Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT means I can't find that path - it's not there any more. Gone. Vanished.

mighty river
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Right, but that's very strange, as the coordinator has worked well with ZHA for months

sour shadow
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It's a HA side problem

mighty river
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Hmm yes I upgraded to OS 9.5 a little while ago. Maybe I'll try a downgrade and see if that's it

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...if thats possible.

austere patio
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[1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,13], my favorite network key

lilac wharf
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Ugh

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I know GENERATE is an option for z2m for panID and network key, but I'm kind of surprised that it isn't the default

carmine hamlet
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the last "13" is the kicker

austere patio
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I think it's an addon limitation

grim igloo
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There’s an open issue on z2m asking for it to not be defaults

carmine hamlet
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nobody will guess that

lilac wharf
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it's not the default for the standalone version either though

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but yeah, makes sense for the add-on

mighty river
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Is this the key for the zigbee network? Should it be changed? Is it an issue to use the default when permit join is false?

hollow chasm
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Yes to all. It's used to encrypt the traffic, so somebody sniffing traffic could decrypt it

mighty river
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Thanks. Do I need to enter this key when pairing new devices? The documentation doesnt cover how it is actually used

sour shadow
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It's handled for you

glossy lintel
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I was hoping LQI would go UP with some time, but actually, they are going DOWN 😄