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hollow rover
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Hey, im wondering if the Aqara E1 are working good with Home Assistant

sour shadow
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With ZHA, or Zigbee2MQTT?

hollow rover
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ZHA

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Oh there are multiple e1, i mean the radiator thermostat

mighty river
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there is also a blind motor when i search for E1

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great naming

sour shadow
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Well, E1 is the sub-range of Aqara devices, like T1, or P1

hollow rover
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Yes im searching for thermostats and aqara ones are on sale right now

fast sentinel
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something i should look into? or just go with that linked one?

tropic depot
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if things work for you just stay put

fast sentinel
# tropic depot if things work for you just stay put

i'd love to but 7.1.1 is not doing great with adding devices to the network, it takes like 4-5 tries - either it stalls out and does not add (during interview stage), or says 'unk by unk" for device name/manufacturer

tropic depot
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what are you pairing

fast sentinel
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same behavior with 2 different motion sensors (smartthings), hue bulb or inovelli switch

oak pike
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hi all. with the nortek zwave/zigbee combo usb controller, is there a means to back up the zigbee config? Thinking in the context of if I were to experience a usb controller failure and how I'd go about restoring it.

fast sentinel
oak pike
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@fast sentinel would that "backup the config to a .json" be outside of the scope of a regular home assistant backup? I'm trying to get a feel if the HA backup is just users, dashboard layout, stuff like that, or if it does anything more in the way of each end device or if I'd be stuck re-pairing everything individually in case of needing to do a rebuild.

jade mirage
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hmm

fast sentinel
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but for sure if you do the backup from the ZHA page, you wont have to re-pair anything

oak pike
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@fast sentinel "...if you do the backup from the ZHA page" -- where are you referencing the ZHA page in question?

fast sentinel
oak pike
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ahh, got it

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ty ❤️

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now to see if I can schedule it. 😄

molten linden
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@oak pike ZHA/Zigpy does automatic backups. (I'm not sure the frequency but it's at least once a day) they are stored in the zigbee.db

austere patio
lofty hamlet
mellow geode
lofty hamlet
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awesome thanks, wish that was listed on the amazon or even their site page (unless I'm just blind)

lapis gyro
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Any idea why my light(s) wont toggle on or off? They were working after initial setup then they just stopped working. Brightness still works, same with color. Just no toggle functionality

sour shadow
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You're using Zigbee2MQTT and still having issues when trying to control them directly from Z2M?

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If so, you may want to try joining the Z2M Discord

brave nacelle
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Any Current E-wand users here?

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None of the controls/options for the configured device are working, it paired just fine

brave nacelle
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Seems after removing/re-adding, it almost kind of works

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I had to click the 'close arrow' about 10 times and it finally closed it all of the way

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clicked the 'open arrow' on the cover control, hit the stop button mid-way and it opened it

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just now, it won't close or open it more

lapis gyro
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and yes I am

sour shadow
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It's carefully hidden there, to make it really hard to find

brave nacelle
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Something must be funky between the zigbee connection and the blinds

undone heath
hollow rover
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Any updates with the aqara c1 cat feeder with zha?

sour shadow
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Have you checked for any PRs?

hollow rover
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ive seen the one from dmulcahey

molten linden
hollow rover
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okay, thanks! 🙂

mighty river
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I am trying to setup Zigbee2MQTT with Sonoff 3.0 but keep getting the error cannont open device /dev/...

I tried checking what usb it is using the ls -l within the terminal add on but can't locate it, please can someone point me in the right direction

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ls /dev/tty* or lsusb with ans without the stick

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you should then see the device though i would recommend using /dev/serial/by-id

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maybe do a ls /dev/serial/by-id

sour shadow
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Chech the HAOS hardware menu

mighty river
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I am completely new to HA so I may have done something wrong in setup, I created a VM using oracle and have a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB dongle if that helps

rapid dawnBOT
sour shadow
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There's two different versions of that dongle, but did you pass it through in the VM settings?

mighty river
sour shadow
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Sure it does

mighty river
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hmm then maybe the USB Stick is not a serial device but a USB Device

sour shadow
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Or ... maybe it's not passed through to that add-on 😉

mighty river
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In the VM settings I have passed the USB

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i think the Phoscon Sticks are USB Devices

mighty river
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or is it HA OS in a VM?

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then you have to pass through the USB Device to the VM

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This is the setting ive added to pass it through, ive just removed and readded to see if that does anything

sour shadow
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Because those aren't the same

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Remember, HAOS is a bunch of Docker containers

mighty river
sour shadow
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Check dotsvertical

mighty river
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Check what sorry?

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oh nvm

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im being an idiot ik you mean 3 dots top right

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been a log day lol, one moment

sour shadow
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Yes

mighty river
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I just searched for silicon (what its labeled as in my device manager on W11) but nothing popped up

mighty river
sour shadow
mighty river
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There are some devices labeled USB and tty but I'm not sure how to figure out which one my device is

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unplug it

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do the same command

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you will see it change

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I've just done it but no changes, it must not be detecting the device

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It is definetly detected on my host machine and passed through to the HA VM though

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ahh if you pass it through it may not disappear in the VM cause it's a fixed symlink

lusty trench
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Hi i have upgrade Sonoff dongle-E to P. Any chance i can just transfer all devices?

mighty river
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IDK what I just did but it appeared

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I just replugged it for the 10th time and its working, tysm

mighty river
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moved the E model to my home and got a new P for the workshop

jaunty maple
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Trying to setup z2m. My device is at dev/ttyUSB0 but i get an error message in the console saying it cant open ttyASM0. Any idea? Bot h docker-compose and configuration.yaml says ttyUSB0

lusty trench
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how did u do that?

mighty river
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just changed the device I pass through to the container and then edited the configuration.yml

lofty hamlet
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Can I mix and match smart bulbs fairly painlessly?
I.E. philips seems to have one of the better downlights
but their br30 bulb is pretty dim at only 650 lumens

mighty river
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ah wait it was the other way arround, one had the P model and I have an E now

austere patio
mighty river
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the E needs
serial:
adapter: ezsp
in the configuartion.yml

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if you use Zigbee2mqtt

grim igloo
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They also have buy 2 get 1 on some stuff

mighty river
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if you wan to switch to an P model from an E model with Zigbee2mqtt you have to remove the
serial:
adapter: ezsp

jaunty maple
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Anyone?

mighty river
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and just put in homeassistant: true
permit_join: false
mqtt:
base_topic: ****
server: mqtt://x.x.x.x
serial:
port: >-
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0

lofty hamlet
mighty river
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of course the serial port has to point to your USB Sticks serial device 😄

lilac wharf
lilac wharf
mighty river
austere patio
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How old is your Zigbee network?

mighty river
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half a year

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I just bought a Sonoff stick, added a few door sensor

austere patio
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Anything other than sensors?

mighty river
jaunty maple
mighty river
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it's just the workshop, but after using z2mqtt there i decided that I wanted to use it for my home too instead of the phoscon/deconz

jaunty maple
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Might it be a permission thing?

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This is the persmissions for the configuration.yaml -rw-rw-rw-+ 1 zucram zucram 387 nov 21 16:16 configuration.yaml

lilac wharf
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your indentation is wrong in your z2m config

jaunty maple
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I copied it of the homepage. Where is it wrong?

lilac wharf
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also you don't need to pass /run/udev through to the container if you specify your adapter path

jaunty maple
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Oh, is the guide outdated?

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I still wonder if the container can read the config file since it’s saying ttyASM0 and not ttyUSB0

sour shadow
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Your indenting is wrong...

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Or, more accurately, it's utterly missing

rapid dawnBOT
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YAML is the mark up language used by Home Assistant, consistent indenting (two spaces per level) is key. Here is a primer, and this explains multi-line templates. For validating YAML see YAML Lint.

sour shadow
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YAML is YAML, whether in HA or Z2M

# 
serial:
port: /dev/ttyUSB0
``` ❌
```yaml
serial:
  port: /dev/ttyUSB0
``` ![Check_mark](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/806693965817446430.webp?size=128 "Check_mark")
jaunty maple
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Sorry thats my bad, seem to have pasted it wrongly in pastebin. It is indented correctly

thin tinsel
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Hi! Does anyone have an idea on how to fix device manufacturer unsupported in zigbee2mqtt ?

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This is how it looks

sour shadow
thin tinsel
sour shadow
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Well, just the ones that Z2M doesn't have support for

thin tinsel
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Thats the thing, it does support Namron witch in this case is the devices

mighty river
sour shadow
thin tinsel
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Namron Zigbee LED Filament Flex 5W CCT E27

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So il guess i need to do it

thin tinsel
mighty river
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ye there is not a single Filament light in the list

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maybe it's compatible to other lamps like the 3802960 so you can copy the presets for that one and change the model number

sour shadow
mighty river
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true

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961 is also CCT

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so maybe grab both and diff them

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to see if there are other differences in 2 Bulbs from the same manufacturer with the same features

sour shadow
mighty river
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sorry

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i always forget that shit

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I have my mentions off for every bigger DC Server

sour shadow
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Yeah, but as a mod, that doesn't work

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I solve it by simply blocking people who don't learn 😉

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FYI, if you use Shift + Reply it defaults to off

mighty river
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would be nice if you could set it to default off as a server setting

sour shadow
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Yeah... I know

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Sadly the Discord devs think that everybody wants all the notification pings, all the time

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Clearly they don't really use their own product

mighty river
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ye i mean, thats why i turn them off completely 😄

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DM or wait XD

sour shadow
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I do everywhere I'm not a mod/admin, to cut down on the crap

mighty river
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ye I can relate to that

sour shadow
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Of course, if I helped less, I'd get less pings ablobjoy

thin tinsel
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What is going into myZigbeeModel

mighty river
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look at the howto

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part 1

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You pair it

sour shadow
mighty river
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and then i outputs the error

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in the log console

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and there is a Device ID, Model Number and a Zigbee Model in that string

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likeZigbee2MQTT:warn 2019-11-09T12:19:56: Device '0x00158d0001dc126a' with Zigbee model 'lumi.sens' and manufacturer name 'some_name' is NOT supported,

thin tinsel
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I should add this ?

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{
"brightness_move": -40, // Starts moving brightness down at 40 units per second
"brightness_move": 0, // Stop moving brightness
"brightness_step": 40 // Increases brightness by 40
"color_temp_move": 60, // Starts moving color temperature up at 60 units per second
"color_temp_move": "stop", // Stop moving color temperature
"color_temp_step": 99, // Increase color temperature by 99
}

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Thats the only shit i can see at the link

mighty river
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there is a whole how to

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step by step

sour shadow
mighty river
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basically you just have to clone the git

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add your Model Numer at the right place in that js file

fossil mountain
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Hi, is there a consensus what the recommended model of Zigbee TRV is? Most seem to be derived from the same models/built by the same companies ... and I am unsure what looks reliable ... and if having the valve position is necessary ... and how useful external sensor support really is ...

mighty river
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and run your custom version

thin tinsel
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I try restarting after using what u sad Tinkerer

mighty river
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maybe set log level to debug first

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then only show warnings

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because it a warn message

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delte the device, open the network, pair it

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while looking at the Logs

thin tinsel
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How do i make it debug, i had it like it before but needed to reinstall ?

mighty river
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open the WebUI, go to logs

thin tinsel
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ahh

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Warning 2022-11-21 20:59:43Device '0x086bd7fffefc8de0' left the network
Warning 2022-11-21 21:00:17Device '0x086bd7fffefc8de0' with Zigbee model '3802968' and manufacturer name 'Namron AS' is NOT supported, please follow https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/advanced/support-new-devices/01_support_new_devices.html
Warning 2022-11-21 21:00:23Received message from unsupported device with Zigbee model '3802968' and manufacturer name 'Namron AS'
Warning 2022-11-21 21:00:23Please see: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/advanced/support-new-devices/01_support_new_devices.html

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got this

mighty river
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hmm maybe put a modelname in there then and test if it works

thin tinsel
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this is what i have so far

mighty river
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in the .js i listed is a color temprange

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maybe you need to set that

thin tinsel
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Name of the file ?

mighty river
thin tinsel
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So this line "extend: extend.light_onoff_brightness_colortemp({colorTempRange: [153, 370]}),"

thin tinsel
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Cant get it to work like that

mighty river
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Hello, does anyone use the tuya gu10 zigbee rgb led bulbs? do they work in ZHA?

gleaming jay
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@molten linden got the coordinator, does it not come with an antenna by default?

molten linden
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It should unless I forgot it or the package is some how damaged and it came out

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Can you dm me I’ll either send one or give you a partial refund to get one

gleaming jay
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Its okay I might be able to find an old one

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I assume they’re standard?

molten linden
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SMA male (has the pin on the antenna side)

gleaming jay
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K cool

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Maybe an old wifi router or something

raw lynx
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anyone on the zigbee side have issues with "manage zigbee device"

I have a motion sensor and i'm trying to adjust sensitivity but the manufactur code ovveride only gives me numbers and not strings which i think is what it needs

https://i.imgur.com/s0bxYDb.png

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also stupid i can't post an image but can link to one lmao

gleaming jay
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If I’m switching coordinators is it best to nuke and start zha fresh?

tropic depot
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It also almost never needs to be filled in

grim igloo
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this is part of the rewrite to the ui for zha you're doing right? to simplify changing settings like what he's trying to do?

tropic depot
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no, this should just work

molten linden
tropic depot
gleaming jay
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K thx I’ll check it out

fallow warren
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Are there any tricks to these ikea trådfri shortcut buttons? I never head them working great for me, usually not responsive, troublesome to pair. Should I configure Z2M to contact them more often perhaps?

near echo
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Can you see the logs in z2m and see what happens. Does it miss and clicks? Also check the LQI it it is too low. Also what type of co-ord ypu have ?

fallow warren
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I will check that 🙂 I meant just in general if anything was known with these but I will do some troubleshooting when I get home

near echo
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Actually i find ikea shortcut button short of value - compared to their remote, on off button or even fhe symphonisk round button - all can be repurposed to better actions

nova jasper
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Hi, i have multiple xiaomi aqara motion sensors (not the p1). I used deconz for 2 years and i was able to set the duration for the sensor to 5 sec, then it would go to not detected state. Worked perfectly. I recently switched to ZHA and now i use an automation to set the state to not detected. Now my sensors go to 'not detected' after 5 sec only they all show random false positives after this reset. So i trigger the sensor and then put it in a box, and after 20 or 30 sec i see a detected state come up. I tried multiple sensors.

sour shadow
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Unless you modify them (in hardware) they've a fixed 60 second cooldown before detecting more motion

nova jasper
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I did modify all of them 2 years ago. I still get the false positives even when I take out the battery immediately after triggering it.

rigid bloom
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Is there any possibility to get the battery level for the Aqara Thermostats? Actually there are no levels shown. I'm using the Sonoff Zigbee Stick and HA in a Docker environment

sour shadow
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ZHA I'm guessing?

rigid bloom
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yes

austere patio
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Oh whoops, wrong reply. That was meant for @nova jasper.

nova jasper
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@austere patio I will check this out later today. Thanks a lot

fast sentinel
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hello all - strange issue, hope someone can point me in the right direction. anytime i remove/re-add battery powered motion sensors, they never join back as 'new' in HA/ZHA. The history is always there for the device (ie motion 20 hours ago in the logbook), and the values do not update (ie Iaszone value), although check-in time is always within 10 minutes, and device shows as available. someone mentioned to wait to re-join after removal, this time i waited an entire day, and same. the entity names are definitely different. how is HA/ZHA correlating the device to it's prior dead/removed self? is there some database purge i need to do?

austere patio
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How did you remove the device?

fast sentinel
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click on the device, three dots, 'remove'

austere patio
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Interesting. I'll check it out.

fast sentinel
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if i can provide any data from my instance let me know; whatever you need

raw lynx
austere patio
raw lynx
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type that into Value?

austere patio
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Yes

raw lynx
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gotcha thankyou

thin tinsel
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Do anyone know how to connect hue bulbs to zigbee2mqtt ? and how ?

hearty night
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anybody know of any (cheap) zigbee relaying multicolor lights?

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I currently have sengled lights but they don't relay and they're not cheap

sour shadow
sour shadow
sour shadow
thin tinsel
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Thank you, worked!

cerulean raven
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Hi all! I am new in home assistant. I have it up and running. I also would like to build an array of smart devices that will automate some tasks like turning the light on and off. I decided to go with Zigbee protocol. However, I am not sure what vendor to choose. The only one I know is Sonoff. Do we have some kind of 101 article that I can use to build my basic "smart" devices mesh? I am from Ontario, Canada. Thank you so much for your help!

hearty night
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TRÅDFRI look to be the same price as sengled, they will act as zigbee mesh relays though ?

austere patio
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They will

hearty night
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cool I will pick one up to test out, thanks

thin tinsel
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Anyone have an idea why 2 of my hue bulbs is coming straight inn, but the last one is not to be seen?

fast sentinel
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@thin tinsel sorry i do not understand, can you elaborate ?

thin tinsel
fast sentinel
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are you adding them one by one?

thin tinsel
fast sentinel
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try doing one by one please

thin tinsel
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So i should remove them again ?

fast sentinel
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i thought you removed them already?

thin tinsel
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No, in the instructions on how to connect them, it tells you to unbind them from the hue bridge, and then they should show up

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Did that with all 3, but only 2 of them is showing up in zigbee2mqtt when i power them up/turn them on

fast sentinel
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right, are the two that show up in HA working as they should?

thin tinsel
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Yes

fast sentinel
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ok so you just need to do a reset of the last bulb

thin tinsel
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How ?

fast sentinel
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what bulb is it

thin tinsel
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Hue white A60 bulb E27

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Model (9290011370B)

fast sentinel
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you will have to lookup the reset instruction for that specifically

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first try and see if the HUE hub/app sees the one bulb and lets you add it. if so, add it, then go to light options, and 'reset light'

jaunty maple
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Is there anyway to tell Z2M not to send specific devices to HA?

thin tinsel
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okey

thin tinsel
fast sentinel
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if the light is on the HUE app, tap the light, then should see an icon for options/settings. i dont have any to look at right now

thin tinsel
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I can only see delete light

fast sentinel
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try to delete it again, then after it flashes wait 5 seconds. unplug the bulb, replug and see if you can pair with Z2M

thin tinsel
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Thanks for your time!

mighty river
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another trick with HUE is, if you have one of the 4 button dimmer remotes, bring it close to the Light and hold I and O on the remote until the light starts to blink

fast sentinel
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i bought another coordinator ( @molten linden thank you). trying to figure out the best way to step things over. is there really no way in ZHA to have two coordinators, on two different channels at the same time, and step devices over?

molten linden
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you can migrate in place from one to the other

fast sentinel
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that 'MIGRATE RADIO' button?

molten linden
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yes

fast sentinel
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damn okay, i was hoping to change channels too

austere patio
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Have many sensors on your network?

fast sentinel
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so no way to have some devices on one coordinator, and other devices on another at the same time

molten linden
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what are you moving to and from?

fast sentinel
austere patio
molten linden
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you can change the channel and then migrate

fast sentinel
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im on ZHA right now, with the sonoff -E. my plan was to light up your coordinator at the same time, and move stuff over, but i dont see that as an option as i read the docs

molten linden
fast sentinel
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yeah but i would then have to re connect 120 devices? there's no way to change channels and push that to all the paired devices right?

molten linden
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the above would at least help with some

austere patio
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Let me test if it works with the Sonoff stick. I think it might.

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Yeah, works fine

fast sentinel
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what did you do?

austere patio
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Migrated my Yellow from 15 to 25, all the lights are still working

mighty river
fast sentinel
fast sentinel
austere patio
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You have to enter the Docker container (docker exec -it homeassistant /bin/bash) and then run pip install git+https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-cli

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Huh, I guess you can even run the pip install one outside of the Docker container in the main environment Never mind, it won't build the packages

fast sentinel
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darn

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can i plug the dongle to another linux machine and run the command? or does ZHA need to be involved?

austere patio
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ZHA isn't involved at all, you just need any computer that can run the pip install command and has Python 3.8 or newer installed. Works with macOS and Windows too.

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Though since it is sending a broadcast, it's best done in a spot that will reach devices

fast sentinel
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got it, makes sense. i am going to do the MIGRATE RADIO and switch to tube's coordinator. if i still have weirdness i'll do the channel change on the new radio

austere patio
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That's a safer alternative 😆

quick hare
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I might be mistaken but from memory, ZigBee devices should start scanning for other channels slowly and rejoin once they find the new one.

austere patio
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I tried it a few times and it was really inconsistent (with the IKEA devices I had). Sometimes a random router hopped over, other times nothing happened at all, even after waiting hours

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The only mostly-reliable way is to send a channel change broadcast

lilac wharf
nova jasper
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@austere patio I'm trying your script but i'm getting this error on restarting HA:
File "/config/custom_zha_quirks/xiaomi.py", line 4
SyntaxError: invalid non-printable character U+200B

austere patio
nova jasper
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i will try again saving directly

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now the error is gone. The sensor goes to off after 10 sec. but i cannot activate the sensor for 1 minute after it went to not detected

austere patio
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Is your old automation still active?

nova jasper
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I think it works. I tried another sensor to be sure. I will play with it a little. I'm hopeful. thanks!!

austere patio
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No problem. I would double check your soldering. If it doesn't activate for 60 more seconds, that sounds like what it does without the hardware modification.

lusty trench
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Hi can I force temperature sensors to update more often ? Let’s say every 5-10mins ? I am using Sonoff dongle 3.0 m2qtt and sonoff temperature sensors

sour shadow
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You can try to set up Reporting for them - but many end devices don't support that

austere patio
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The defaults are also usually good. Temperature sensors don't report on a fixed interval, they report every time there is a minimum change, at most once every min minutes and at least once every max minutes. Z2M lets you configure this.

sour shadow
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Well, it does when the device supports it

austere patio
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Sonoff I think do

sour shadow
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Makes up for all the other problems people have with them then 😄

austere patio
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Not really 😆

cobalt dew
mighty river
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Do I understand correctly that every Zigbee device acts as a repeater, since its a "mesh network"? So if a temp sensor is out of range, I can just put a second temp sensor in between and that will make the first sensor within range?

quick hare
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Not battery powered ones has they need to sleep.

mighty river
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Ah, clear. Thanks. I was already wondering what the added value of so called "zigbee repeaters" was. But now it makes perfect sense.

fast sentinel
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@austere patio should i make a ticket on github regarding that device rejoin issue i'm experiencing?

weak dirge
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im trying it anyway, but just curious if anybody else has done similar. I just purchased a zigbee philips hue light for my front porch, partially to act as a range extender. my mailbox is ~450 feet away almost line of sight and i want to put an aqara door/window sensor in there so I know when it is opened. has anybody been successful at that range?

tulip patrol
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137.16 meters..

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according to the zigbee wikipedia entry, range is: 10–100 meters

static spade
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anyone know of a power bar that also measures consumption (zibee or wifi)?

weak dirge
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worst case ill sneak a zigbee plug into a neighbors outlet outside 🤣

tulip patrol
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in that case it could of been referring to from the actual co-ordinator to the device, depending on the output of the radio of course. What you are attempting could be weaker output

weak dirge
tulip patrol
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yeah

fast sentinel
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@molten linden this ethernet coordinator is awesome! is there a way to set a static IP on the device (ssh?)? or, how do you change the IP in ZHA/HA of the coordinator if the device gets a different IP?

molten linden
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easiest is to use your router and set up a dhcp reservation for the device so it always get the same IP

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otherwise for a static IP you need to import the esphome config add it to the config and reflash.

fast sentinel
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got it - and if for some reason i need to change the IP of the coordinator in ZHA, where is that?

fast sentinel
gaunt flume
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Right now I am using the light sensors that are built into my motion sensors (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/RTCGQ14LM.html#xiaomi-rtcgq14lm) but I have a few problems with that - firstly they dont seem to be very accurate, secondly they only report brightness changes very infrequently (I think they only update the brightness on motion events) and lastly I need to take the light sensor into account when placing the motion sensor which is annoying.
So I was wondering if anybody has used this light sensor (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/GZCGQ01LM.html) and can tell me how often it reports a value and how happy you are with it?

sour shadow
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I have a bunch of those

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Certainly in Z2M you can configure them to report on a fixed interval or at a given change in brightness

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I may possibly have been a little excessive on setting the threshold low, but there seems to be no big impact on the battery

gaunt flume
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Well thats good to hear thanks! - guess Im gonna get a few and see how I like them :)

sour shadow
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I have found them to be as good as, if not better than, the old Z-Wave units I had (Aeotec and Fibaro multi-sensors)

gaunt flume
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One last question: How is the variance between the units in the lux reporting? (meaning if they are all side by side do they all report the same value or different once)

sour shadow
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Seems to be broadly the same. I haven't done an exact side by side, but I did swap one unit for another (it was acting up, turns out the new battery I put in it was mostly dead) and saw no difference in the reported light level

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At least, what it said was 12 lux looked the same to me

gaunt flume
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nice

midnight prairie
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A question: I own a couple different Zigbee controllers but am unsure which one to use for reviving my (somewhat neglected) HA installation:

  • Conbee stick (original version I think) - It worked well most of the time, but I'm not a fan of deconz tbh. My HA also runs as a VM, and forwarding a USB device to a VM has some caveats. I prefer a networked/bridge solution.
  • Tradfri gateway - supposedly able to update tradfri lights, but again, uses deconz I believe?
  • Hue gateway (old round version) - Got it from a thrift shop, still a good option?
  • Xiaomi aqara gateway - last time I messed with it it needed unstable servers in China to set up, plus it needs a power plug adapter...

The zigbee devices I have are a mix of Tradfri and Xiaomi/Aqara.

Right now I'm a bit torn between the Tradfri and Hue, so I'm curious what your experiences are!

sour shadow
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Almost everybody in this channel will tell you that none of those are a good choice

rapid dawnBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

sour shadow
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☝️

midnight prairie
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So, pretty much USB radios only?

sour shadow
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You can buy network connected "radios" (aka coordinators)

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That's sort of like a hub, except all the brains runs on the computer running HA

midnight prairie
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I kind of assumed the hue and tradfri gateways would work in the same manner, effectively just being a bridge between tcpip and zigbee

sour shadow
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Well, yes, but no

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Hubs/gateways are always far more than just a radio

midnight prairie
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For the average consumer, I was just hoping HA could kind of circumvent all the proprietary stuff and just use the gateway as a radio

sour shadow
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Yeah, no chance of that happening

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Well, that's not strictly true, some people have rooted those things, but it's not trivial and only for some of them

midnight prairie
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But HA does integrate with Tradfri and Hue (via API I'm assuming)

sour shadow
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Sure, and those hubs define what you can use with them

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HA has no say

midnight prairie
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But in the end I'd still be pairing my devices to hue/tradfri, and have HA integrate with that (by the grace of the manufacturer)?

sour shadow
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"still" says you don't understand

gaunt flume
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You can use the Sonoff Zigbee Bridge and flash it with tasmota and then use it that way but I had a big argument a while back here about the validity of wifi as a next hop so there is that

sour shadow
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With ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT you're not pairing anything to hue/tradfri

sour shadow
midnight prairie
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If I used those, it would be abstracted by the manufacturer, compared to HA controllign everything with one of the zigbee2mqtt radios you linked?

sour shadow
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Well, yes, everything is handled by those gateways and HA has to take what it can get

midnight prairie
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Got it

sour shadow
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If you want to use a wide range of devices they're a terrible choice

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If you're happy with vendor lock-in, go for it

midnight prairie
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So that makes me curious, how does my conbee stick figure into this story? Because it effectively allows HA to control everything, yet every device needs to pair via DeConz, right?

sour shadow
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Well, no

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You can use deCONZ, but you can use that stick with ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

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No deCONZ required

midnight prairie
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So that's a recent (last couple of years) development, then?

sour shadow
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(it's not a great stick, but it's not as bad as a CC253x based one, or the Sonoff ZBBridge)

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Five ish years, yes

gaunt flume
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If you are interested I use a Pi running Zigbee2MQTT with the SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle-P. That Pi then sends data via MQTT to HA. I found that this is a good solution if you need to place the coordinator in another location than your HA hardware. Otherwise I recommend you just get the SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle-P and plug it into the machine running HA - everything else can be done though the HA gui.

midnight prairie
gaunt flume
sour shadow
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And various other pins

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Key things are:

  1. Use a USB extension cable
  2. Pick a clear channel, having done a scan
  3. Try to avoid anything using the CC2531 or WiFi, and don't buy a ConBee if you don't already own one
gaunt flume
midnight prairie
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Even with my tradfri lights working as a repeater

sour shadow
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The ConBee is very sensitive to RF interference

midnight prairie
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Thanks for confirming, I suspected as much

gaunt flume
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Well that and your mesh could be bad.

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Meaning not enough routers.

midnight prairie
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Right

sour shadow
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Or the routers are crap - like Osram

midnight prairie
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Thanks for the advice so far!

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So to recap, everything I have is shit and I need to buy something else regardless 😆

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something cc2652 based

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and then I'd use ZHA to integrate HA with my zigbee devices

sour shadow
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If you want to run it "centrally" buy a network connected coordinator

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That's cleaner IMO than running something on a Pi remote from HA

midnight prairie
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I still have the first page open 🙂
I'm in western-europe, but aliexpress is also an option

gaunt flume
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If you are getting in to it there is also the Sonoff ZBDongle-E which is based on a different chip (EFR32MG21) and not that well supported right now. Just be aware that it exists.

sour shadow
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It's fine for ZHA, don't buy it if you're thinking of using Z2M

gaunt flume
midnight prairie
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the price difference between the E and P version is one euro (looking at Ali), so I'd rather get the one with better support

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Which is the P, as I understand it?

gaunt flume
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yeah the E is the newer one thats why its not well supported.

sour shadow
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Well, it'd be more accurate to say not well supported by Z2M - but that's more to do with the chipset than it's time in the market

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Z2M's support for things other than TI chips (CCxxxx) is limited

midnight prairie
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What would be a reason to prefer Z2M over ZHA? Integration outside HA I'm guessing?

sour shadow
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Whether you want it all in HA, or external

midnight prairie
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right

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but if need be I could deploy mosquitto in HA for that, right?

sour shadow
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Yes

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For Z2M anyway, not ZHA

gaunt flume
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I would also argue that (at least as of right now) Z2M has more supported devices and exposes more data to the user.
This is probably gonna change as time goes on though. (ZHA is relatively new as I understand it)

sour shadow
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I think they're about the same age, but Z2M has a wider userbase, ZHA is pretty much just Home Assistant

gaunt flume
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ahh ok

midnight prairie
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So that covers my usecase for now

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Speaking of which, is aqara still the bang-for-buck option for sensors and switches, along with Tradfri?

sour shadow
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Yes

midnight prairie
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Thanks, just making sure a new major player hasn't popped up

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So if I were to go networked, that would be the ZB-bridge-P, correct?

lilac wharf
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oof, no. get something that uses ethernet

midnight prairie
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Crap, I thought it had ethernet, but you're right, it only says wifi

sour shadow
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Sonoff bridges abkneonno

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Tuya abkneonno

lilac wharf
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if you're in the US, tube has some good options

midnight prairie
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EU 🙂

sour shadow
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You can still import 😉

lilac wharf
gaunt flume
midnight prairie
sour shadow
gaunt flume
# sour shadow

There is an open request since like 4 years to make that the default - or at least give us the option to

midnight prairie
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I like it as a feature, but I can imagine it being annoying for some people. Should be a setting on the "pinged" end though!

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Unfortunately the gateways from that link all seem out of stock

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I guess it's USB for now 🙂

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Technical question: could one "fail over" to a second Sonoff USB stick, or would that make the network go a little bit nuts?

lilac wharf
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not easily

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theoretically possible with z2m if you can detect when the stick fails and then automate editing the config to point to the new adapter and restarting z2m

midnight prairie
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Ah no, I have something much more interesting (read: probably a bad idea) in mind

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Oh well, not a priority. Ordered the Sonoff USB stick. Thanks for the suggestions, all!

silent lintel
sour shadow
silent lintel
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These docs are amazing. Thank you so much Tinkerer!

stoic wren
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I'm using a thermostat with zigbee2mqtt. The thermostat is exposing two tempsensors, one for the "room", and one in the floor. Can anyone pinpoint me to where i can change the sensor showed in the climate integration?

silent lintel
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I'm trying to see if my z2m aqara temp sensor is falling off the network. I do have the recorder integration doing nothing; set to include only a single boolean. I also have container for influxDB running to work with Grafana. If the end goal is to see if the device is falling off, what is a simple way to do this?

silent lintel
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Simple may be a bad criteria, I could change the temperature in the room and see if it responds, and that would be simple. I guess I want a good way to see if it's falling off the network.

austere patio
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They update at least once every ~50 minutes

silent lintel
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Hey Puddly! Awesome. Okay, should I be looking to the Z2M logs for that? I am still working on getting HA updated with a good recorder integration

sour shadow
silent lintel
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Man that is exactly what I need. And its right there in the same docs you posted earlier 🙂

sour shadow
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As I said, the Z2M docs are pretty solid... though knowing what to search for is always the challenge

silent lintel
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Thanks as always Tinkerer!

silent lintel
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I added this line to the devices.yml file in my docker-compose/zigbee2mqtt/data folder.

'0x00158d0006795b0c':
  friendly_name: bedroom
  availiability: true

But in the Z2M front end it says availability: disabled Is it possible my configuration.yml has a setting overriding the availability? https://paste.debian.net/1261637/

sour shadow
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You've only enabled it for that one device, so the main Availability tab will show it as disabled

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(you also had to restart Z2M after changing the file)

deft bane
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I can't seem to get into the bootloader of my new ZBDongle-E 3.0. Does anybody know what could work?

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I hold the bootloader button, plug it into my laptop, wait like 10 ish seconds and release the button

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Then try to flash the firmware

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but then i get an error

faint quest
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I recently had to restore my HA and now it looks like HA does not see my Sonoff zigbee dongle plugged in anymore. I'm running HA on VirtualBox and I'm not sure how to troubleshoot any further. Tried unplugging/replugging, rebooting the VM, so far nothing

tulip summit
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Hi everybody!
I have ordered Bosch Thermostats some time ago, but didn't order the base station since I planned to run it using HA.
However, I experienced some problems with the thermostats, even when using without the HA.
They tend to overshoot the set temperature for 2-3 degrees Celsius, which is a lot. Did anyone observe similar issues?

Further more, the coupling with the radiator is made with plastic fins which grips on the radiator when tightening an outside nut.
It seems fiddly and easy to break, as can be seen from some reviews on Amazon.

I talked to the seller and they mentioned some SW updates, but since I don't have the Bosch base station it doesn't apply to me...
What do you use? How do you maintain your system?

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Further more, the radiator themselves have a plastic part on the valve, which seems to be regulating the max flow. Changing this might affect the overshoot issue, but also the heating speed...

jolly narwhal
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well this was interesting @molten linden

python3 bsl.py -p socket://tube-zb.eirikzlab.local:6638 -evw CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20221102.hex
Opening port socket://tube-zb.eirikzlab.local:6638, baud 500000
Reading data from CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20221102.hex
Firmware file: Intel Hex
Connecting to target...
CC1350 PG2.0 (7x7mm): 352KB Flash, 20KB SRAM, CCFG.BL_CONFIG at 0x00057FD8
Primary IEEE Address: 00:12:4B:00:25:8F:1B:DC
    Performing mass erase
Erasing all main bank flash sectors
    Erase done
Writing 360448 bytes starting at address 0x00000000
ERROR: Timeout waiting for ACK/NACK after 'Get Status (0x23)'
iron flare
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Hi! I use Phillips Hue sensors, currently when it detects motion it turns a light and after a certain amount if time the light goes off. It seems like if within that time the light is on it doesnt react on motion anymore. I would like it to like reset the timer/delay when it detects motion when the light is already on. Is there anyone with experiance for this?

molten linden
jolly narwhal
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hmmm, I see
tubeszb-cc2652-poe-2022

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but what if I have the old poe version ?

molten linden
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models/retired/

jolly narwhal
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ah thanks

molten linden
jolly narwhal
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yeah uploaded it now

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wow, new fancy ui

molten linden
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modern esphome

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lol

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the cc2652 flash over network will take like 5 mins

jolly narwhal
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what is the flag now for the zigbee upgrade ? "zigbee module bootloader pin" ?

molten linden
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"Trigger Zigbee Module Bootloader" runs a script on esphome to put the module into bootloader

jolly narwhal
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aha

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nice

molten linden
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toggles bsl pin on then a reset lol

jolly narwhal
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retrying flash of hex now

molten linden
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🤞

jolly narwhal
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I haven't dared upgrade since I bought it from you kek

molten linden
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you are using z2m right? that dev fw may still not be playing nice with zigpy-znp/zha

jolly narwhal
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yeah z2m

waxen nimbus
molten linden
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even if it was compiled on my birthday 😂

jolly narwhal
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bad juju!

iron flare
jolly narwhal
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still writing firmware, so looking good

molten linden
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it's slow over network but I did it like a dozen times to test this esp32 firmware last month.

jolly narwhal
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ah, a man of self-floggelation

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akin to my heart

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write done, verified!

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do I need to reboot the board after the firmware upgrade ?

molten linden
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won't hurt

jolly narwhal
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wasn't mentioned in the docs at least

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rebooted, lets fire up z2m again

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it's taking some time yikes

molten linden
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it has to restore the last backup

jolly narwhal
# 
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-23 22:56:35: Loaded state from file /app/data/state.json
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2022-11-23 22:56:35: Logging to console and directory: '/app/data/log/2022-11-23.22-56-35' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-23 22:56:35: Removing old log directory '/app/data/log/2022-10-31.20-22-16'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2022-11-23 22:56:35: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.28.0-dev (commit #98ceaa0)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2022-11-23 22:56:35: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.63)
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-23 22:56:35: Using zigbee-herdsman with settings: '{"adapter":{"concurrent":null,"delay":null,"disableLED":false},"backupPath":"/app/data/coordinator_backup.json","databaseBackupPath":"/app/data/database.db.backup","databasePath":"/app/data/database.db","network":{"channelList":[20],"extendedPanID":[221,221,221,221,221,221,221,221],"networkKey":"HIDDEN","panID":6755},"serialPort":{"path":"tcp://tube-zb.eirikzlab.local:6638"}}'
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🫰

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something happened

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it lives!

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Coordinator revision 20221102

kind rapids
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some of my zigbee sensors stop sending data sometimes, is that to be expected?

sour shadow
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What sensors?

silent lintel
kind rapids
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Aqara movement sensors

sour shadow
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Do they simply stop reporting that they're alive, or do they stop reporting movement?

kind rapids
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I'm using the Nortek zigbee dongle

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they stop reporting movement

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If I try to re-pair them, they'll report movement once and then stop reporting movement again

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I'm not sure if the issue is coming from the fact that I'm using an unofficial dongle

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I've just bought the aqara hub

jolly narwhal
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I'm sorry to hear that

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😄

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My aqara sensors have never stopped reporting movement, both the vanilla one and the 1s modded one work great

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but remember they don't change parents, so if you have moved it around or turned off the parent you have a bad time

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also nortek is a very antique coordinator

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and aqara hub isn't an upgrade

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at least if you want to have a mesh with anything else than aqara

kind rapids
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porco dio just bought the aqara hub

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I don't mind I'm only using aqara sensors

jolly narwhal
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then you'll probably be fine

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the aqara hub was... fine when I only had aqara stuff

kind rapids
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what do you have rn?

jolly narwhal
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then I bought tradfri, and hue, and gledopto, and namron and more

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I use a CC2652 coordinator with zigbee2mqtt

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for the last 3 years

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CC1352 -> zzh -> tubes poe coordinator

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120ish devices total currently, 40 battery, 80 wired devices

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coverage 25m from my house

kind rapids
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is this an usb dongle? I'm only finding some scammish alixpress products

jolly narwhal
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Most modern one

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had this before

kind rapids
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I'll have a look tyty

jolly narwhal
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and this before that

grim igloo
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@kind rapids you've kind of jumped from the pot to the frying pan here going from nortek (shit) to aqara hub (proprietary)

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if you have $ and time the tube PoE coordinator is a great option tho

jolly narwhal
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freedom of placement is great

grim igloo
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you're free to place me bb

jolly narwhal
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my z2m is in my concrete garage in the basement

grim igloo
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ye

jolly narwhal
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my tube is in the attic

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😄

grim igloo
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you give it the nailpolish treatment?

jolly narwhal
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I have a 24 port poe switch in the attic, plus a few access points and some other stuff

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there is an itanium workstation in there too somewhere

grim igloo
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fancy

jolly narwhal
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It's probably a collectors object

wicked crow
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Heyall, I have zha setup on my system and added a new Aqara EU plug. I had one before and it is working properly and reporting correct values. But the new ones are reporting power as always 0. Does anybody know anything about this?

They both use the same version Firmware: 0x00000029 and they both are using the same zha quirk. The working one has sensor.lumi_lumi_plug_maeu01_electricalmeasurement as its Active power entity id but new not-working one has sensor.lumi_lumi_plug_maeu01_active_power?

quaint bane
# wicked crow Heyall, I have zha setup on my system and added a new Aqara EU plug. I had one b...

Got the same issue at the moment.
According to this thread you can subscribe to _analog_input instead of _electrical_measurement but I have no idea how to do that.
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/xiaomi-zigbee-power-socket-readings-off-by-a-factor-of-10-since-2022-10-5/
I've also added this as a custom quirk to my config but it didn't help either.
https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/blob/dev/zhaquirks/xiaomi/aqara/plug_eu.py
Re-paired, reconfigured many times but power consumption is still 0.

@mellow geode I've stumbled upon your name a few times on this issue including the two links above; can you help us to get this to work?

mellow geode
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@quaint bane @wicked crow Do not install any custom quirks or use the analog input workaround, there’s no need for that anymore.
What coordinator are you using? If it’s a Conbee, update its firmware and re-pair the plugs.
Also, make sure HA is updated to the latest version

wicked crow
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I have a Conbee II stick

quaint bane
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I’ve had it without the custom quirk before and it didn’t work, that’s why I tried it.
HA is on the latest update.
My coordinator is a raspbee II

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I’ll have a look into updating the raspbee‘s firmware later today, that’s one thing I haven’t looked into yet. Thanks for the tip, I’ll report if it worked!

iron flare
# iron flare Ahh right! Thanks! Ill look into that!

I turned it around. Instead of putting a timer on the lights after X minutes turn off. I made a new Automation for the lights that just checks if there is movement for X minutes, if not, then turn off the lights.

jaunty maple
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I have problems pairing an Ikea motion sensor to z2m. Z2m starts interviewing the device but then it leaves the network. Any ideas?

jolly narwhal
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cheap tuya zigbee mmwave sensor confirmed working

sour shadow
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Which one is that?

lusty trench
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Hi i have problem with sonoff temp. Sensor every time I pair it it stays it offline. Tried to reset and re-pair but shows the same.

sour shadow
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From other posters, that seems to be a common problem

humble zenith
jolly narwhal
violet dagger
sour shadow
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It's Tuya.... trust but verify zany

jolly narwhal
mossy jacinth
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Everything in my smart home is either Lutron or Z-wave. I want to add a "magic cube" from Aqara, but its zigbee. No issue I presume with just buying a zigbee stick for my Nuc? Will it affect performance of my z-wave network at all?

sour shadow
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It'll have no impact on Z-Wave

rapid dawnBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

mossy jacinth
raven jewel
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That's the P. I have that one and it's fine

mossy jacinth
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Whats the range like on Zigbee?

sour shadow
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Similar to Z-Wave

mossy jacinth
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gotcha. So i may need some repeaters then

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I don't intend to have many Zigbee devices

sour shadow
#

By may, you mean will...

surreal crag
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lol

mossy jacinth
#

lol

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good to know

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internal debate whether or its worth it or not lol

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i only really want that Aqara magic cube lol

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My lighting and shades are Lutron and my sensors, locks etc are Z-wave

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i suppose once I have Zigbee, I'll have an excuse to buy some other shit

sour shadow
#

I started with Z-Wave and added Zigbee as the low cost of sensors made more sense. I now have no Z-Wave left...

near echo
# mossy jacinth i only really want that Aqara magic cube lol

ah that cube is lot of fun! throw in the air and see which side in up when it lands and have the "Side Number" it displayed in HA dashboard 🙂 plenty of inbuilt actions. Do watch out for battery drain, the battery type is CR2450 i think , relatively expensive than the CR2032 types

sour shadow
#

I've had no issues with drain on mine, got a little over a year out of one and 18 months on the other

near echo
mossy jacinth
#

I have a 2000 sq foot bungalow, so if I had a mains powered Zigbee device every 20 or so feet, I should be good?

sour shadow
#

Yeah, I ballpark that you can expect to get about 6 to 8 meters between devices - but it varies a lot

mossy jacinth
#

kk

#

a logical upgrade could be to replace a couple power bars behind our beds with Zigbee ones. Not that we'd necessarily need them to be smart, but acting as repeaters gives us double duty vs just some random reapeater

flint sluice
#

Zigbee works! Yay. Got my network up and running. Interestingly Spengled bulbs have a longer range than Phillips Hue. I guess that makes sense since Hue act as repeaters

#

I'm struggling with getting a repeater to the second floor of my house. Any tips?

jaunty maple
#

Superweird that some of my zigbee devices paired with the coordinator directly when there are routers closer by. But i guess Aqara devices have always been a bit weird in that sense

sour shadow
#

Aqara pairs to the first thing it hears from

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Most devices will tend to pick whatever they think is best, which will often mean going direct

near echo
jaunty maple
sour shadow
#

Well, you can solve the immediate problem by pairing via a specific router

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You can't stop things changing parent when they want to, and you wouldn't want to

mossy jacinth
#

err wait, I also have some hue bulbs. Are they Zigbee too? If so, will they function as repeaters?

sour shadow
#

Yes, and yes - if you add them to the same mesh

mossy jacinth
#

interesting. So right now they are using the Hue hub. If I get a zigbee stick for my HA machine, I'd have to somehow take them off the hue hub and use them directly with the stick/HA?

sour shadow
#

Yes

mossy jacinth
#

neat, didn't realize that could be done.

#

It would make sense to do that I think just to get a more robust zigbee network

stray jasper
#

My zigbee devices no longer work. They show up in HA like they are connected but hitting the power switch does nothing, and then ha flips it back to whatever it was set to previously. any ideas how to fix this?

#

They work briefly after a reboot but shortly after the reboot they break again

lilac wharf
#

Check the logs for whatever zigbee software you're using

sour shadow
#

Also, what coordinator are you using? CC2531?

near echo
stray jasper
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i dont think so. i have a sonoff usb dongle in ha, and right now a small number of zigbee devices including motion sensors and plug in outlets

sour shadow
#

Which dongle - they've produced at least 4, probably more

stray jasper
#

https://a.co/3rgzbO7
SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus-E Gateway, Universal Zigbee USB Gateway with Antenna for Home Assistant, Open HAB, Zigbee2MQTT etc, Wireless Zigbee 3.0 USB Adapter

sour shadow
#

And hopefully you're using it with ZHA?

stray jasper
#

Probably not. What is it?

sour shadow
#

Zigbee Home Automation - one of two options for getting Zigbee into HA using that stick

stray jasper
#

Yeah I do not think so

sour shadow
#

It's that or Zigbee2MQTT, where that stick has a great bit experimental warning

stray jasper
#

idk, i just plugged it in and it pretty much set itself up

sour shadow
#

Then you're using ZHA

stray jasper
#

ah okay

sour shadow
#

Did you put the stick on a USB extension cable?

stray jasper
#

No

sour shadow
#

Try that

#

The reasons are in the pinned messages

#

There's a lot of other stuff you should read there too

stray jasper
#

Ah okay, thank you!

turbid willow
#

unsure if this is the correct place to ask... I using ZHA and if I try to use the device or group binding after pressing "bind" it just get a spinning icon and nothing changes. Any suggestions?

sour shadow
#

What devices are you trying to bind?

turbid willow
#

a remote to a light

#

the long just shows "2022-11-24 10:30:34.418 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.api] Get bindable devices: source_ieee:" with all the devices

#

I don't see anything occurring from hitting the "bind" button

sour shadow
#

You have to wake the remote, did you?

turbid willow
#

wake it before hitting the bind button?

sour shadow
#

Probably right after

turbid willow
#

still just see a spinning blue circle on the "bind" button

deft bane
#

I have a hue motion sensor and connected it to zigbee using the intergration, but it says its always occupied and my other sensors work. Is there someone who knows how to make it work?

hollow rover
#

Can you use zha and zigbee2mqtt? Because a device i just go is only zigbee2mqtt supported and i only used zha so far

sour shadow
#

Yes, but you need two coordinators and to build out two meshes

#

It's generally a really bad idea

fallow hemlock
#

got these christmaslights at Lidl today, hope somebody gets them to work in ZHA soon using zigbee, they seem really awesome! 😄

raven jewel
#

Lidl UK seem not to be selling Zigbee stuff anymore 😦

lilac wharf
#

Every time I see Lidl I think of Patrick from SpongeBob saying LEEDLE LEEDLE LEEDLE

broken sedge
#

Speaking of Lidl and motion sensors, are those any good or are all Tuya based sensors slow? (on z2mqtt)

sour shadow
#

Tuya is generally a shit show - some devices are good, but you have to take care

violet dagger
#

Lidl sensors are generally the bottom barrel kind, at least the last gen is, the new ones could be better

broken sedge
#

Yeah... I mean the lights aren't that bad, but I got 2 zigbee based motion sensors by them, and a few door/window sensors on wifi, but so slow to use them to trigger automations, for just knowing someone passed by or a window is left open it's fine but I do long for more responsive devices

#

They are just so darn cheap xD

violet dagger
#

Oh the lights are quite bad but cheap

#

I usually don't care much what door sensor I use as loong as it stays on the network and doesn't guzzle batteries

broken sedge
#

Almost any smart brand is tuya over here, some are better than others, I mostly complain about brightness of colored brightness as opposed to the whites

sour shadow
#

Buy some Aqara from AliExpress

violet dagger
#

Buy some Yeelights

broken sedge
violet dagger
#

I tried other lighting but it's just crap compared

broken sedge
#

I do have one of those, older model I think, but when I turn it down it doesnt turn down in white, but rather goes red

violet dagger
#

I only use their CCT ceiling lights and have the first model

broken sedge
fallow hemlock
#

I might buy some more of the switches tomorrow. Also love the bulbs, connected to zigbee right away. The christmaslights can be used over the lidl app, but preferably they would be usable over Home Assistant.
And i hope, as some other projects got that intergration going, that somebody can copy paste magic the code somehow, so ZHA can do the full set of options for the lights too

#

(i mean, for the christmaslights

quaint bane
mellow geode
#

Also, make sure custom quirks removed

quaint bane
mighty river
fallow hemlock
#

Netherlands

mellow geode
mighty river
#

I live like 5min from the border

ivory trail
#

Are there any vibration sensors that would report the amplitude numerically? I’m trying to track the status of a pump which works in one of two modes, eco and max, and the vibration in max is larger. I don’t have access ti the electrical socket, which would be a much easier way to monitor.

broken sedge
fallow hemlock
#

no, not on the website

#

perhaps a pretty noobie question : can 2 zigbee networks interfere? running the HA yellow close to the LIDL gateway and seem to have a bit of an issue, as the christmaslights and gateway go offline a lot lol
if so, i move them further from eachother tomorrow
can also be the PSU, ran it of another usb charger than provided by lidl

mighty river
ivory trail
#

That’s what I wanted to do, but the socket is overbuilt with plasterboard. I do have the cable but I’d need to figure out the voltage phase to do it with something like a Shelly 1em

#

The vibration sensor seemed like a good idea until I realised they seem to be on/off

quaint bane
mellow geode
#

Can you try re-configuring the plug through the UI?

#

Also check that OppleMode is set to 1 on the OppleCluster in the clusters UI

limber hornet
#

Any special sauce required to add "Tuya Temperature Humidity Sensor Thermometer Hygrometer WIFI/Zigbee Smart Home" to HA via tubez BT coordinator thingy? I've added the controller to HA, can see connections from the HA inbound, but when I click "add device via this device" it doesn't find the gadget.

#

Yes, I put batteries in it, and it's a few feet away from the coordinator

quaint bane
quaint bane
violet dagger
limber hornet
#

the controller is wifi, but the devices are all zigbee.

#

actually the controller is wired ethernet

#

I can open the web-interface directly on the coordinator, and/or connect to the controller from HA.
From what I understand, the coordinator is acting kindof like a access-point for all the zig devices, which pair, then are accessible via the controller API...

violet dagger
#

Did you put the thermometer device into pairing mode?

limber hornet
#

I couldn't see how. Couldn't see a button. Sec will go get it again

#

ahh, button under the battery cover. sec

violet dagger
#

There are usually instructions with the device

limber hornet
#

I am deeply sceptical of 55.6% humidity reported...

violet dagger
#

Only way you can be sure is if you have a calibrated hygrometer

quaint bane
mellow geode
quaint bane
mellow geode
#

That’s the newer firmware version then (the 0x029 file version reported earlier is likely outdated then).

This version doesn’t have the OppleMode mode attribute. Please check your Conbee/Raspbee firmware again

#

There are also ways to downgrade the firmware on the plug (there’s a guide from me in some Z2M issue)

#

But so far, it looks like you don’t have the correct firmware on your coordinator

#

And/or didn’t re-pair the plug after updating the firmware

quaint bane
stoic relic
#

Hi.
I've attached a RaspBee shield to my rpi3b+, and I'm trying to configure ZHA. I'm using the HA OS on the pi.
The error I'm getting is "Failed to connect" at the step "Serial Port Settings", after choosing deCONZ radio type. Serial device path was automatically entered as /dev/ttyAMA0, which seems correct after extensive googling. I've also followed some steps to add dtoverlay=pi3-disable-bt to the config.txt in root. I'm at a bit of a loss... The only thing I could imagine be a problem is that I indeed get a warning in the logs for under-voltage. I've ordered a better cable for that, but could that really cause this issue?
Does anyone have ideas or troubleshooting tips?

mellow geode
mellow geode
quaint bane
quaint bane
still bison
#

Hi
have some mqtt cover warning messages who have ideas how to find them and fix , attaching below
2022-11-25 13:31:12.597 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.mqtt.cover] Payload is not supported (e.g. open, closed, opening, closing, stopped): None
2022-11-25 13:31:12.598 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'dict object' has no attribute 'position' when rendering '{{ value_json.position }}'
2022-11-25 13:31:12.599 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.mqtt.cover] Payload is not supported (e.g. open, closed, opening, closing, stopped): None
2022-11-25 13:33:56.606 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'dict object' has no attribute 'position' when rendering '{{ value_json.position }}'
2022-11-25 13:33:56.608 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.mqtt.cover] Payload is not supported (e.g. open, closed, opening, closing, stopped): None
Logger: homeassistant.components.mqtt.cover
Source: components/mqtt/cover.py:402
Integration: MQTT (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 24 November 2022 at 13:44:15 (4191 occurrences)
Last logged: 13:25:44

Payload is not supported (e.g. open, closed, opening, closing, stopped): None

cover configured in zigbee2mqtt and version is 1.28.2-1

glad plume
#

Hello Team! I would like to get some hints which type of smart plug should I buy.

- Zigbee Protocol ( Using Zigbee2MQTT )
- Working as Zigbee Router ( I want to extend my zigbee network for sensors ).
- Power monitoring
- EU connector type
- Home Assistant Integration```
Thank you!
sour shadow
glad plume
sour shadow
#

Salus do an EU power monitoring plug

glad plume
#

Ah if I choose Power as an expose I can see power monitor devices perfect. Thank you!

glad plume
sour shadow
#

it's a plug, it's a router

glad plume
inner bay
#

😄

sour shadow
#

What coordinator are you using?

inner bay
#

z2m

sour shadow
#

So close

#

That's not a coordinator

inner bay
#

you mean the firmware ?

sour shadow
#

The coordinator is the little radio thingy, often a USB stick

inner bay
#

yeah itead zigbee sonoff 3.0 dongle

sour shadow
#

The P or the E?

inner bay
#

P as in Plus ?

sour shadow
#

Yup, CC2652 based

inner bay
#

yes correct

sour shadow
#

Try removing it from the computer for 30 seconds

inner bay
#

lucky i removed it to read version 😄

#

what should i look for in log ?

sour shadow
#

Well, put it back in and restart Z2M

#

If the stick had locked up - which happens but is exceedingly rare - that'll have cleared it

inner bay
#

2022-11-25T15:43:26.263Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter Failed to validate path: 'Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT'

sour shadow
#

It's not finding the USB stick, check the hardware menu

inner bay
#

/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_2cf90077ddc9eb11b1778b4f1d69213e-if00-port0

#

it shows in the all hardware list

#

under ttyUSB0

#

i remember now i got a config request a few days ago....maybe i picked the wrong option

#

sorry forgot about that as it was during the supervisor bug as well

#

i got three config options and i picked the top one

#

something about network bla bla

#

should i remove it and re-configure everything ?

#

still getting this.

2022-11-25T15:55:22.193Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter Failed to validate path: 'Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT'
2022-11-25T15:55:22.194Z zigbee-herdsman:controller:log Starting with options '{"network":
#

it was autodetected and found lots of entities tho

#

and this.

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-25 17:01:37: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-25 17:01:37: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
    at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:103:27)
    at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29)
    at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:58:27)
    at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:101:27)
    at start (/app/index.js:109:5)
#

anyway it died after updating HA

#

guess it just broke down then

inner bay
#

definately update related as HA after an update added a new zigbee integration that conflicts with the old one that wanted to use z-wave.

#

the old one was put on ignore by HA automatically but locked the serial USB port

#

i simply removed the new integration and z2m fired up again

quaint bane
plush latch
#

Why aqara magic cuve is not working after a few secobds when I oair it with zigbee2mqtt?

quaint bane
# quaint bane Okay so I went and tried to update the RaspBee II, but it won't install the upda...

Now my Raspbee wont work anymore. Like, at all. ZHA doesnt recognize it, deconz add-on doesnt either. Re-plugging it in and rebooting over and over didnt help either. Dunno what to try now. Can I reset it completely in some way?

I give up on this thing I guess. Ill use another coordinator in hope for more luck. At the end of the day I dont care that much about power consumption measurement. If the zbdongle-p that I just bought wont get power consumption either Ill just leave that. Just want my lamps to work again right now. Luckily I still have the old dumb bulbs for until the zbdongle is here lol

austere patio
austere patio
kind rapids
#

Hey I just bought an aqara hub, is there a way to not send the temperature of my kitchen to chinese servers ?

inner bay
#

beta channel

austere patio
#

And you're 100% positive you never clicked the "Configure" button when HA discovered your Sonoff stick and allowed you to configure ZHA?

inner bay
#

i don't think so but not 100% sure

quaint bane
inner bay
#

i am curious tho on how to remove the old zigbee stick integration that used subname z-wave

#

it was put on ignore . i unignored it but can't find it now

#

i'm positive the new autodiscovered integration would be better in the long run

#

you have a pro tip @austere patio ?

warped nest
#

Hi, I bought off Amazon UK a frient zigbee energy monitoring plug but for some reason I cannot find it in my HA, I'm using deconz

kind rapids
#

hey, does anyone know how to turn on homekit only mode on the aqara app ?

sour shadow
#

You'll get little to no help for the Aqara app in here, since this channel is for ZHA, Zigbee2MQTT, or deCONZ

fair mountain
#

Suddenly binding ZHA groups doesn't work. It just spins. Restarted HA. No luck. Thoughts?

austere patio
warm atlas
#

I'm currently on Z2M 1.18.1-1(previous repo), if I update to newer version(different repo) what should I pay attention to?
Do I have to repair everything?

sour shadow
#

You won't have to re-pair everything, just follow the instructions in the pinned message

inner bay
#

is the zha setup in configuration obsolete when using the new zigbee 3.0 dongle integration ?

austere patio
#

New zigbee 3.0 dongle integration?

sour shadow
#

I think you're confusing yourself

#

They're the same thing

#

It's just that the UI names it for the stick, for reasons best known only to the devs

inner bay
#

i'm gonna try to explain. language barrier is a variable tho

#

previously i had an integration for my sonoff zigbee stick. it was discovered as z-wave

austere patio
#

That doesn't seem right, the Sonoff stick is Zigbee-only

inner bay
#

can from what i read be wrongly discovered depending on some chip used in both devices

#

none the less...the other day the dongle was discovered with a different integration

#

the zigbee sonoff 3.0 home automation integration

austere patio
#

That would be ZHA

inner bay
#

but that one can't be used as i get port conflicts

#

something locks usb0

austere patio
#

Do you have Zigbee2MQTT running as well?

inner bay
#

no because when the "new" integration is configured the conflict cause z2m to stop

austere patio
#

Nothing should be getting auto-configured unless you click "Configure"

inner bay
#

i put the "new" on ignore and everything runs as intended

#

let's assume i configured it.....none the less it gets autodiscovered adn await configuration...meaning it's a match to be used in my world

austere patio
#

Let's take a step back here. If you want to use Z2M, you cannot use ZHA. They both need exclusive control of the USB port.

inner bay
#

the conflict was there even when zha was commented out in config

#

so my conclusion is that the old dongle integration that wrongly was discovered as z-wave

#

is still running

#

can't be found tho

#

saw it once as ignored. when un-ignoring it vanished

austere patio
inner bay
#

i did ls -l /dev/serial/by-id when i had the conflict and some thing showed as audio for the dongle

#

so detections isn't 100% accurate

#

and haOS runs on a dedicated laptop with only the dongle connected

austere patio
limber hornet
#

Seems none of the numbers have updated since initial connect. Is this a ha, coordinator, or device issue?

inner bay
#

img of the integration that is autodiscovered unless ignoring it

austere patio
inner bay
#

not auto-configured

#

but i have had another one that was discovered previously . as i said...wanted to use z-wave

#

i think that one is a ghost

austere patio
#

A HUSBZB-1 stick would be discovered by both, I don't think any others

#

But if you can reproduce the problem and grab a debug log, that would be helpful, as this would be a bug

raven jewel
quaint bane
inner bay
#

the problem is that the old one can't be seen anymore

#

when un-ignoring it i got a msg saying that it could take a very long time for it to be un-ignored

limber hornet
#

Anyway device is not updating. Ha says went unavailable right after first data point..

inner bay
#

should i comment out ZHA in configuration.yaml and try the discovered one ?

austere patio
#

If you are using Z2M, you cannot use ZHA

#

Remove anything related to ZHA from your configuration file and use Z2M if you're already using it. If you want to use ZHA, remove the Z2M addon.

inner bay
#

so i should keep the discovered integration ignored ?

austere patio
#

Yes

inner bay
#

it gets discovered even if zha is commented out tho so that's why i thought it was the one to use

#

thank you for awesome support

austere patio
#

That's normal, it's how discovery is supposed to work. Hopefully in the future we can make discovery a little smarter with addons so this doesn't confuse more people.

inner bay
#

this has given me lots of grey hair the past week.

i am very grateful for this clarification

#

while i'm here....my ikea stuff isn't updated OTA from z2m. is there a trick for this to fully work ?

raven jewel
#

If it's battery, make sure to wake it up

inner bay
#

ofcourse

limber hornet
#

Any idea why zigbee device is never updated? How to debug? (tubezb eth coordinator)

What is the difference between the two integartions (for xxx)
"socket://192.168.30.51:6638 "Zigbee Home Automation"
"tubezb-cc2652p2-ethusb-2022 ESPHome"

austere patio
#

You can ignore the second one

limber hornet
#

The latter seems to contain controls for restarting, and firmware update.

fair mountain
limber hornet
#

I added device to the former, which paired OK, and showed one reading, but not updates ice.

austere patio
#

How far away did you move the temperature sensor from the coordinator? Which sensor is it?

limber hornet
#

It's about 2 feet away

In fact "last seen" on the coordinator is 3 hours ago, and the device is like 12+ hours ago.

austere patio
#

"Last seen" on the coordinator not updating is just a frontend bug, you can ignore it

limber hornet
#

Ok great. How do I set up the controller to poll the device, or... the other way around.
Device is "Tuya Temperature Humidity Sensor Thermometer Hygrometer WIFI/Zigbee Smart Home"
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/384751462419

#

I see lots of people talking about reflashing tuya? What's that all abot?

#

mine is not wifi, zigbee only afaik

violet dagger
#

you get a tuya device then flash custom firmware on it, it's usually a wifi device but you can also replace a zigbee or bluetooth module with a wifi one

limber hornet
#

I have the devices linked above. Which I got to pair OK, but don't seem to be updating.

#

They're zigbee only

austere patio
#

Can you upload the ZHA diagnostic info for the sensor?

limber hornet
#

From the device info?

Device info
TS0201
by _TZ3000_fllyghyj
Connected via Zigbee Coordinator
Zigbee info
IEEE: a4:c1:38:9d:ef:11:18:ad
Nwk: 0x11a8
Device Type: EndDevice
LQI: Unknown
RSSI: Unknown
Last Seen: 2022-11-25T18:51:36
Power Source: Battery or Unknown
#

Or is there some more verbose/detailed info?

austere patio
#

There's a "Download Diagnostics" button on the same page, in a dropdown

raw shore
#

Anyone happen to have Xiaomi aqara motion sensors?

#

I've successfully paired the motion sensor without bridge with just ZigBee dongle. It stops detecting motion after some time

#

I'm not sure what the issue is

austere patio
#

What Zigbee stick?

limber hornet
raw shore
#

Ehmm sonoff ZigBee dongle

#

The plus version

limber hornet
#

@austere patio Hmmm that's a crappy file-sharing thing. Got deleted after it was viewed. Can you suggest another?

raw shore
#

Motion sensor remains available so no connection issues. It's just not reporting motion detection

austere patio
#

Which Aqara sensor is this?

limber hornet
#

@austere patio the low level details appear to include temp=2435 and humidity=5556; but reporting as unavailable in HA?

austere patio
#

Those are just the last-seen values, they could be hours or days old

limber hornet
#

as far as I can tell from History, there's only one datapoint, when it was newly connected.

austere patio
raw shore
#

Aqara motion sensor @austere patio

austere patio
#

Right. Which one? The model name and manufacturer on the device page should tell you this.

raw shore
austere patio
#

The older sensors don't accept any configuration: they just join your network and send updates when they feel like it. If it doesn't work reliably, try replacing the battery.

raw shore
#

I suppose it's RTCGQ11LM

#

It's 100% battery brand new

austere patio
#

The displayed battery percentage doesn't mean much, there's no way for them to accurately report it

raw shore
#

Okay will try to replace the battery i guess

#

It's weird cause it works for a while then randomly stops detecting motion while remaining available in ZigBee network

austere patio
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For it to become unavailable, it'd have to not update for four hours. There's no real way to tell a sleeping sensor apart from an offline one

limber hornet
raw shore
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If these are the Aqara Motion , like most of the aqara there is a bug in there firmware which make them incompatible with most of the Zigbee 3.0 routers.

austere patio
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Aqara stuff works best with Zigbee 3.0 routers (and if you have nothing other than a coordinator, you don't have any Zigbee routers)

raw shore
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Just a coordinator no hub

austere patio
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Yeah, so you have no extra routers. If it doesn't get kicked off the network after an hour, it will continue working.

raw shore
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Actually my smart bulb does act as a router, right?

raven jewel
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Maybe, depends on the bulb

raw shore
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I'll try pairing the sensor from scratch and just put it close to the dongle

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Thanks

raw shore
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Seems to be working now! Fix was reseating battery and turn of light bulbs and get close to coordinator when pairing

rapid dawnBOT
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@gusty spire I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
paper gale
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@gusty spire
I see more likely something to do with umbrel passthrough device ?

I'm using promox and never used umbrel maybe look in this direction?

do you have installed ZHA or ZigBee2Mqqt already?

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Also dev/ttyUSB0 for my was
Dev/ttyUSB1

raven jewel
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Use the serial port and save yourself a headache or 7

gusty spire
gusty spire
raven jewel
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Most devices need at the very least the serial device path, like /dev/ttyUSB0, but it is recommended to use device path from /dev/serial/by-id folder, e.g., /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_C0F003D3-if01-port0

gusty spire
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Ya, thats what i tried: /dev/serial/by-id/usbID but that did not work for me, "connection faild"...

Also Settings > System > Hardware gives me a graph of the CPU and the RAM, no 3 dots menu

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already flashed the stick to newest firmware as well

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i really guess its an umbrel problem...

raven jewel
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If you're not using HAOS or a Supervised install you won't have that, but you should make sure to use the by-id to pass it through to your install/container

paper gale
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I bet umbrel even if I'm a noob in HA 👍

gusty spire
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othervice@umbrel:~$ ls -l /dev/serial/by-id
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 26 10:36 usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB0

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so i use: /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0

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still connection failed...

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i really think its an problem with the umbrel integration but there is no documentation on that, at least i could not find any since 3 days 😄

raven jewel
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If you're trying to do an unsupported #installation-archived method, then I strongly suggest trying a supported one

gusty spire
raven jewel
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I have no idea what umbrel is, aside from an umbrella missing a syllable. But if it's not documented on the home assistant website then it's unsupported.

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I suspect it's like that random thing on the snap store, someone with good intentions making everyone's lives harder.

gusty spire
raven jewel
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Congratulations, you have either an abomination of a supervised install, or a mangled docker container.

paper gale
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It's a boy ! 😂

raven jewel
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Step 1: #installation-archived
You don't need some kind of special OS to run a server at home. Debian or HAOS will do.

gusty spire
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😄

raven jewel
gusty spire
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ok, i have an empty NUC that i can use and test. Will install this evening and report results 😄

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thanks for the help!!

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❤️

raven jewel
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Just set umbrel on fire and start over

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Trust me, you'll save yourself years of migraines

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A quick search on their forums reveals people having problems with HA, and nearly everything else on their "App Store"

gusty spire
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I use Umbrel as a Bitcoin and Lightning node, also i have PiHole running on it and a Nextcloud, so would be nice to have all in one place instead of having 20 dedicated hardware to run everything on its own

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maybe i get some kind of virtualisation, well see

raven jewel
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Just use docker

paper gale
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(promox work fine if you want a docker like or virtualization and have other stuff on it)

raven jewel
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Seriously. It's not that hard, and you actually know what's going wrong and can troubleshoot it

gusty spire
raven jewel
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Umbrel is a custom OS with Docker, as evidenced by the fact you;re having problems. If you use Debian or a nice sensible OS as the base I'd wager 98% of your problems vanish overnight, and the other 2% are resolved with a quick search

gusty spire
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ok, i will try that. Thanks 🙂

raven jewel
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If you really need a GUI of some kind, which I strongly suggest you avoid leaning on, Portainer is useful to get an overview of containers that are running and quickly check logs. Do not use it to create containers.

calm cave
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I have deconz with a ikea Fyrtur blind. It was working flawlessly for a couple of months but I had an issue with the position not updating. So I removed it and repaired. Now, for some reason I only see the battery status in Home Assistant. I can control the blind fine from deconz, so it suggests the problem is somewhere between deconz and home assistant. I’ve repaired, updated firmware and messed around for too long. Any ideas?

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I don’t think it impacts my problem but I’m using dockerised home assistant (on a generic amd64 box) and a dedicated pi 4 for deconz using their headless image.

near echo
calm cave
supple torrent
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Hey! So, I have a mixed setup with zigbee and zwave,, things are working mostly, but, I have this problem where I often manually turn of the power to a specific zigbee lightbulb, then other zigbee devices might stop working.
It kind of seems like the other zigbee devices are connected trough the bulb I'm turning of.

Is there any way to control what zigbee device connects to what?

warm atlas
paper gale
supple torrent
paper gale
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I wasn't saying like power off and on home assistant. More like. Erase all device in hope assistant and pair them once again one by one 😂 cause I don't think you want to restart home assistant everytime you turn the power off your light bulb

supple torrent
warped nest
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Can anyone assist me getting energy usage data from frient smart plug?

pastel ice
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Anyone have suggestions for cheap reliable zigbee outlet plugs? Gonna pick up a couple for around the house. The Sonoff S31 lite is $7 something but a little large

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I guess sonoff s40 zb version is a bit sleeker, I’ll go with a couple of those

tepid radish
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please help. I have a zigbee combi 2 on a ras pi 4 (with an extension cable). Using ZHA. My zigbee switches constantly (within a matter of minutes) grey out and im unable to turn on/off switch within home assistant.

I recently had a sparky in to change my upstairs/downstairs 2 way default switch with a zigbee. That has turned into a 1 way nightmare that was told 'can be set up in the app'. No Neutral, no 2 way.

its fine until someone presses the other switch and kills the power.

Im trying to automate it with switchbot but i cant even get the Zigbee switch to stay available in HA. Ive read up about conflicting channels but im a noob when it comes to this and close to getting divorced!😆

Thanks in advance
Anton UK

raven jewel
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Get a switch cover for the other switch and put a Zigbee switch on top of it. That solves problem 1.

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ZHA should automatically pick a channel for you

tepid radish
raven jewel
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I have Hue buttons and there are plenty of covers for those available cheaply on Amazon